[00:01] kees: other ports seem okay [00:02] kirkland: dunno man. [00:02] kees: okey doke, thanks [00:02] doesn't sounds like a network problem. [00:02] Hi [00:02] kees: i'm going to dig deeper on the iscsi target end [00:02] I want to import (and sync from time to time) an user database from some sort of management system to an Ubuntu server and have some of those users have access to different stuff (like FTP/WebDAV to certain directories, etc.). Is there already some (easy to use) system to handle this or would it be better to just create a set of scripts for this myself? [00:02] * kees nods [00:02] kees: there might be some crazy network acl that i'm missing [00:06] RainCT: it depends on what do you mean by "some sort of management system" [00:08] mathiaz: Well, I don't really know yet what it is, but it has data about people which can be exported (to CVS or something like that, probably). [00:08] it's some management software that they use at my school [00:32] kees: okay, so i've made some marginal progress [00:32] kees: looks like an iscsid needs to be running on the initiator [00:34] kirkland: ah-ha [00:34] kees: and i need to generate a unique iscsi iname [00:34] uuid ftw [00:34] kees: gotta manually do the init script bits, as the udeb doesn't have one [00:35] btw, nano sucks [00:36] voila!!!!! [00:36] maybe add uuid-runtime udeb? [00:36] kees: nah, there's an iscsi-iname [00:36] kees: gotta write that to an /etc file [00:36] * RainCT refrains from saying "nano rocks" ;P [00:36] kees: then start iscsid [00:36] kees: then run the discovery [01:27] kees: i've got ;-) [01:27] kees: it's mostly complications on the iscsi server (target) end [01:51] kirkland: cool, great :) [01:55] nijaba: are you in SF? [01:57] kirkland: nano is your friend [01:58] zul: why if you have vi? [02:04] nxvl: not yet - only next week IIRC [02:05] nxvl: re - your nijaba question [02:05] :D [02:05] mathiaz: thanx [02:05] mathiaz: did you got my e-mail? [02:07] nxvl: which one ? [02:07] mathiaz: about Config-Model [02:09] nxvl: yes [02:09] nxvl: do you have problem sending emails ? [02:09] nop [02:09] but all of you canonical employes are so busy that sometimes it takes 4 days until you read a mail [02:10] Can anyone recommend a vacation auto-reponder script that users could easily configure (like via a web interface)? I have been using a program called 'vacation' which works fine, but it sucks since I have to set it up and tear it down myself for each user when they want it. [02:10] and as i see that you didn't mention it on the meeting yesterday i was making sure [02:10] :D [02:13] anyone run ubuntu server from an SD card on a laptop? === fReAkY[t] is now known as c1|freaky [02:13] Sp0tter: is it possible? [02:14] I'm pretty sure its possible [02:14] I'm curious if it works well === c1|freaky is now known as fReAkY[t] === yell0w_ is now known as yell0w [05:10] jdstrand: are you there ? [05:11] jdstrand: something's very wrong with ufw [05:54] yell0w: I think it's pretty well the middle of the night for him. I'd suggest file a bug. [05:58] ScottK: it is for me to, i'll wait for him tomorrow or file a bug tomorrow whichever comes first :) [08:04] New bug: #253471 in openssh (main) "openssh-client hangs then drops after authenticating" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/253471 [08:45] moin [09:46] * rgl waves [09:49] If I'm about to spend $500 on building a headless server box, and am new to this kind of thing, are there any pitfalls I should know? Any annoying compatibility issues? It's a general server for some basic web serving, running sims (which could keep one core busy for several days at a time), storing some research work (so software raid 1) and generally being a useful box in the corner for a small research group. [10:36] I have kernel panic. I am using LILO (yes, LILO). I am newbie in Linux things. How Can I get back GRUB loader? Is it possible with rescue broken system option? [10:42] bump :) [12:09] yell0w: what's the problem? [15:07] just reposting my question of this morning (unhelpful timezones, y'see): If I'm about to spend $500 on building a headless server box, and am new to this kind of thing, are there any pitfalls I should know? Any annoying compatibility issues? It's a general server for some basic web serving, running sims (which could keep one core busy for several days at a time), storing some research work (so software raid 1) and generally being a usef [15:07] + any advice on the price sweetspots of various components that will sum to $500 would be much appreciated too [15:12] Use Google (or your favorite equivalent) and check your compononents (motherboard chipset primarily for a server) to see that people report success with it. [15:12] 250GB HD, dvd rom, $40 case (Coolermaster), 350-450W PSU (from Antec, Thermaltake, Corsair), AMD dual core proc ($100), $60-$80 mobo from Gigabyte or Biostar [15:12] Personally I have a lot of luck with Intel motherboards and processors, but they aren't the cheapest. [15:12] >_> [15:13] edmoore: Are you going to need a lot of data storage? [15:16] lukehasnoname: not particularly - I was thinking of a pair of 250GB for the raid1 [15:16] and intel, yeah [15:17] whatever dual core $100 gets me [15:19] hi [15:19] how can i install packages from CD [15:20] I did [15:20] apt-cdrom add [15:20] aptitude update [15:20] aptitude install fluxbox slim [15:20] basically all the packages are in /mnt/cdrom/pool/main [15:21] I have installed Ubuntu 8.04 [15:21] Server Edition [15:25] anybody awake here [15:27] heya [15:28] <_ruben> why install fluxbox on a server? [15:29] some people want a gui [15:29] _ruben, ok [15:29] Basically I have all the packages under /mnt/cdrom/pool/main [15:29] <_ruben> lukehasnoname: thats a fact, the question is why ;) [15:29] How can i install it [15:30] kaushal: fluxbox is in universe... and I'll bet not on the cdrom [15:30] <_ruben> kaushal: yyou already mentioned the proper commands .. tho thats assuming you are root, which you probably arent, so you need to put 'sudo' in front of those commands [15:31] I have logged in as root [15:31] edmoore: it can be done in $500. GSkill 4GB ram, 2x250 GB seagate drives, Lite-on dvd burner, Coolermaster Eilite 330 case, Antec Earthwatts 380w psu, (AMD 5400+ 2.8 GHz) or (Intel E2220) and a motherboard. [15:32] <_ruben> $500 for server-grade hardware is kinda pushing it though ;) [15:35] New bug: #253648 in bacula (universe) "bacula-director-pgsql postinst script uses UTF8 to create database instead of SQL_ASCII" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/253648 [15:36] psh, I just gave you the list. You aren't going to be running redundant PSUs with octocore 32GB blades here. [16:32] I think the virtualisation area of the server guide should move "Virtual Networking" below "installation" [16:37] lukehasnoname: ya, I thought that myself, but if you setup a bridge then run virt-install the vm will automagically use the bridge... so there's advantage to having it above [16:47] foolano: at uds prague you mentioned a drink of wine and coke, but I forgot the name? [16:48] disgusting [16:48] thats what its name [16:49] zul: no, it was a spanish type name... and it's actually quite good, especially with cheap wine, heh :) [16:53] Greetings! [16:53] Quick question on Apache [16:53] I've noticed theres an apache.conf and a blank httpd.conf [16:54] Do I make custom changes in httpd.conf [16:54] or in apache.conf [16:54] Fenix|work: depending on the change, usually the best place is /etc/apache2/sites-available/default [16:55] what happens when apache gets updated? does default remain the same? [16:55] Fenix|work: that way you can configure multiple vhosts seperately [16:55] Fenix|work: it should ask you if you want to overwrite the config or not [16:55] alright... I'm just trying to wrap my head around some of these changes [16:56] another admin at another site uses centos and gave me an httpd.conf to use, so I'm trying to ubuntu-ify it [16:58] Fenix|work: you'll probably want to focus on any settings and migrate those to the in the sites-available/default file [17:03] Ok. I can stick things like ServerTokens and such in there. [17:30] lukehasnoname: appologies for not thanking you earlier - got sidetracked at work (y'know how it is!). Thanks very much for your suggestion, it looks about perfect [17:32] however I might s/Coolermaster/antec sonata III [17:32] as during the move to new labs it's going to be in my room for several months, and fan whir isn't my thing! [18:19] how do I add the mod_rewrite module to my current php installation? [18:19] and then restart php to apply it? [18:20] yes I'm on Ubuntu [18:20] Eudoxus: do you mean apache mod_rewrite? if so do: sudo a2enmod rewrite; sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart [18:21] yeah sorry apache [18:22] sommer, THANKS! [18:22] Eudoxus: np === Jare_ is now known as Jare [18:27] hey sommer [18:27] calimocho [18:28] calimocho is the name of that spanish drink [18:28] foolano: awesome! thanks man [18:28] and zul: it's not disgusting :P [18:28] heh, party! [18:32] sommer: remember, the worse the wine, the better [18:34] foolano: hehehe... ya what made me think of it is the $3 bottle of red wine I picked up from walmart on impulse the other day, so that should be covered :) [18:36] sommer: dude that's perfect. that's the real mccoy :P [18:44] hi [18:44] I have installed Ubuntu 8.04 Server Edition on my system [18:45] After the installation I found that most of the packages were not installed [18:45] I did mount /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom [18:46] and then cd /mnt/cdrom/pool/main and found that in the directory all the packages [18:46] How can i install these packages on to my system [18:48] hello everyone. I recently moved my server to a differnt area in my office and the internet will not connect. Before it was working perfect. [18:49] Kaushal: probably sudo apt-cdrom add; sudo apt-get install package_name [18:50] sommer, ok [18:51] In that case I have to issue several same command to install all the packages [18:52] is there any better method to install all the packages which are found in /mnt/cdrom/pool/main [18:52] Kaushal: not that I know of... I actually don't think it's possible to install all the packages on one machine, due to conflicts and such [18:53] Kaushal: what are you trying to accomplish? [18:54] sommer, For example I found that gcc package was missing after installing Ubuntu 8.04 Server Edition [18:54] so like there are several packages missing [18:55] Kaushal: right, I'd just install what you need as you need it :) [18:56] sommer, so how can i achieve to install the missing packages [18:56] Kaushal: to get most of the gcc, make, etc type packages try installing build-essential... should grab most of the dependencies your looking for [18:57] sommer, is it sudo apt-get install build-essential [18:57] sudo apt-get update is not working. I have pluged in my ethernet cable which is connected to the computer but it fails trying to connect to the site to get the updates [18:57] Kaushal: that should work [18:58] and what about other missing packages [18:58] Bnydell: do you have an ip addresss, ifconfig should tell you. also, can you ping anything [18:59] Its nearly impossible to find out what has been installed and what not been installed [18:59] i just restarted the system. Let me load up and i will let you know [18:59] Kaushal: which missing packages? the gcc dependencies? [18:59] sommer, I gave as an example [18:59] Kaushal: dpkg -l will list all the packages installed [18:59] Kaushal: ubuntu server takes a minimalist approach to what packages get installed [19:00] sommer: it doest seem to have an IP. it has inet addr: 127.0.0.1 [19:00] also i tried to ping google and i got nothing [19:01] Bnydell: does the cable work and what not.... link light, etc [19:01] Bnydell: you might also check /var/log/syslog for any errors [19:01] yes the cable works. also the light does blink on back of computer saying stuff is going through [19:02] Bnydell: try /etc/init.d/network restart and see if it gives you any clues [19:03] ok im using the same ethernet cord so let me plug it into server and do the testing. I will let you know what i get. [19:04] -bash: cd: /etc/init.d/network: no such file or directory [19:04] Bnydell: woops.. sudo /etc/init.d/networking [19:05] ok so: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart? [19:05] or without restart [19:05] Bnydell, yes [19:05] ok [19:05] sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart [19:06] ok, i did the command. and got * Reconfiguring network interfaces [ OK ]. [19:06] i then tried: ping google.com [19:06] sommer, whats the purpose of sudo apt-get install build-essential [19:07] Kaushal: get the essential stuff for compiling === fReAkY[t] is now known as freaky[t] [19:07] ivoks, compiling means using to compile the c program [19:08] ivoks, if u can give me example [19:08] compiling = convert human readable code into machine code (aka program) [19:09] ok [19:09] mathiaz: ping [19:10] kaushal: I did what you mentioned but i still have no IP [19:10] ivoks, so i have to install manually every package which are there under /mnt/cdrom/pool/main [19:11] ops i ment sommer. I did what you mentioned. no IP still [19:11] Kaushal: no, just run 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' [19:11] it will download packages from the internet [19:12] Bnydell: paste your /etc/network/interfaces at pastebin.ubuntu.com [19:12] ivoks, i understood that [19:12] but what about packages which are located under /mnt/cdrom/pool/main [19:13] I mean there are 100's of packages [19:13] that's ubuntu cd? [19:13] yeah [19:13] why would you mount it? [19:13] add it with apt-cdrom [19:14] ivoks: how can i connect to /etc/network/interfaces [19:14] and, if there's a package on cdrom, it will download from cd, not the internet [19:14] Bnydell: cat /etc/network/interfaces [19:14] Bnydell: that's a file, you can't connect to it, you can open it [19:15] on unix, everything is a file [19:15] even your cdrom is a file [19:15] so, you can cat your cdrom into an iso image [19:15] or cat your serial port to get communication with serial port [19:16] posibilites are endless [19:17] Kaushal: we may be able to help you better by knowing what services your server is going to serve? you might also take a look at the serverguide: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/index.html [19:17] ivoks, ok i pasted it there, now what do i do. i pressed paste! and at the top got Paste from Brandon at Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:16:15 +0100 [19:17] Bnydell: give us the link [19:18] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/32687/plain/ [19:18] ivoks: hello - how are you doing today ? [19:18] mathiaz: is this an answering machine or a person? :) [19:18] Bnydell: so, what are you expeting to get with this kind of network setup? (no network?) [19:19] mathiaz: are there plans to 'backport' some changes kirkland is doing with status in init scripts to hardy? [19:19] ivoks: it's a real human being typing at the keyboard ? tu ne me crois pas ? [19:19] what do you mean. I am trying to get this computer connected to internet so i can use update it and install packages with the apt-get [19:19] ivoks: there were some discussion about pushing stuff back to -backports [19:20] mathiaz: as i can see, there are two cases [19:20] ivoks: I don't think we could make it into -updates as SRUs though [19:20] ivoks: most of the patches rely on proc_status in the lsb package [19:20] mathiaz: one is where we have to update LSB - i don't thnik that's going to happen in stable release [19:20] ivoks: nope - it didn't happen in the dev cycle [19:20] mathiaz: right, and the other, like apache, is just a change in init script [19:21] Bnydell: try adding something like this at the bottom of the /etc/network/interfaces file: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/32689/ [19:21] ivoks: well - that would be hard to justify under a SRU [19:21] since cluster suite depends on 'status' from init script, we actualy, can't use rhcs with apache now in 8.04 [19:21] Bnydell: then restart networking with sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart [19:22] sommer: ok, thanks. let me give this a go. I will let you know what happens [19:22] mathiaz: bug #250847 [19:22] Launchpad bug 250847 in redhat-cluster-suite "Apache predefined script in redhat-cluster-suite is not properly setup for Ubuntu" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250847 [19:22] ivoks: right - we may able to fit it under the following critiria: Bugs which do not fit under above categories, but (1) have an obviously safe patch and (2) affect an application rather than critical infrastructure packages [19:22] right [19:22] sommer: how exactly do you edit this file :) [19:22] ivoks: taken https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates [19:23] Bnydell: with your favorite editor :-) [19:23] mathiaz: yeah, i've read it and i'm willing to talk with sru team about it [19:23] well i mean how do i edit it on the server. i do not know the command to open it [19:23] mathiaz: i'm talking about apache only... [19:23] Bnydell: try sudo nano -w /etc/network/interfaces [19:24] Bnydell: nano is a pretty simple terminal editor [19:24] sommer: the first command you gave me worked. thanks [19:24] ivoks: yeah - I think if you have the patch (as the one mentionned in the bug) you've got a better chance with the sru team [19:24] ivoks: or even prepare a debdiff so that it's easy to review [19:24] ivoks: point being: have some working code/patch to present while talking with the SRU team [19:25] i will, but i need to report a new bug, since this one is about rhcs [19:25] ivoks: isn't there a bug for apache2 wrt to the init status script spec ? [19:25] i didn't check yet [19:26] ivoks: bug 203169 [19:26] Launchpad bug 203169 in samba ""status" function for init scripts" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203169 [19:27] hah, nice :) [19:27] ivoks: hm - it shouldn't be used actually [19:27] ivoks: as pointed out at the end of the bug [19:27] right [19:28] ivoks: so yes - file a new bug, attach a debdiff, nominate for hardy and ask the sru team their opinion [19:28] ivoks: refer to the case of rhcs to show that it's useful to fix [19:29] ivoks: basicaly follow the procedure outlined in the StableReleaseUpdate wiki page - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates [19:29] that's why i asked, i think it complies with requirements of SRU [19:29] sommer: i just resarted it and did ifconfig and i still dont see an ip. [19:30] I also tried: ping google.com and got unknown host google.com [19:30] ivoks: well - it's a border case that may need to be argued for [19:30] Bnydell: do you have dhcp on your network? [19:31] Bnydell: if not you'll need to configure a static IP, so you'll need to know the IP of your gateway [19:31] sommer. I just reformated today, but before i reformated it was working untill i moved the server to a different area in my office. [19:33] Bnydell: were you using a static IP before? [19:33] sommer. no [19:34] Bnydell: try dmesg | grep -i net and pastebin the output [19:34] sommer: it was there already right after reformated. but this last time i reformated it wouldnt connect to internet at all. [19:35] Bnydell: you don't have dhcp server on your netowrk [19:35] Bnydell: that problem doesn't have anything to do with your server [19:35] Bnydell: if you don't have dhcp (dynamic IP) server, you have to set up an IP by your self [19:35] not just an IP, but whole network configuratio [19:36] ivoks: im pretty sure i had a dynamic ip before i reformated. I could even connect to it through ssh untill i moved the server somewhere els in the office and then i moved it back and it still didnt work [19:37] I didnt ever set a static IP. [19:37] maybe you didn't connect ethernet cable [19:37] let me retry [19:38] I just reconnected ethernet and tried again and no luck. [19:39] paste 10 last lines from output of 'dmesg' command [19:39] on pastebin.ubuntu.com [19:39] ok, I will need to type it all out. [19:39] ok, right... [19:39] hold on while i do that. [19:39] then don't do it [19:40] look for lines mentioning eth0: link is down [19:40] or something like that [19:41] ok etho0 is mentioned two times: (1) eth0: link is not ready (2) eth0: link becomes ready [19:42] nice [19:42] now run 'sudo dhclient eth0' [19:42] ok let me do that. [19:45] ok it finished. do you want me to type what it says on ubuntu paste [19:45] no [19:45] did you get an ip? [19:45] you mean type ifconfig and look for it. if your talking about the output of the command i just did there is nothing that resembles an ip [19:46] just couple of 255.255.255.255? [19:46] Bnydell: do you have another device on your network providing dhcp? such as a firewall or wireless access point? [19:47] yes there is 6 lines of that 255 stuff [19:48] sommer: at our office we just plug in ethernet and you get internet. I am not the one who set up the network at the office so i do not exactly know how its setup. [19:49] Bnydell: okay, well you've configured your server for dhcp and if you're not getting an ip address, there could be something wrong with whatever is handing out IPs on your network [19:49] ivoks: right below the 6 lines of 255.255.255.255 stuff it says: No DHCPOFFERS received. and below that is says No working leases in persistent database - sleeping. [19:49] Bnydell: at this point you may want to ask whoever setup your network for some help [19:50] sommer: i do not belive there is something wrong with it, as it was workin earlyer today and i did not mess with it. Would setting a static IP let me connect to ineternet? [19:50] Bnydell: yes, but you'll need to know the settings dns, gateway, netmask, etc [19:51] Bnydell: just because *you* didn't mess with it doesn't mean a problem doesn't exist :) [19:51] Bnydell: i put my money on your broken network [19:52] Bnydell: and since dmesg has found eth0 and says it's ready for connection, there doesn't seem to be any issues with your server hardware [19:52] i hate nano [19:52] heh, i know. The person who set it up does not work here anymore. how exactly do i set a static IP. i wil give that a go. [19:52] ivoks: yep, me too [19:52] me three [19:53] uh, oh [19:53] apache2 source doesn't build-depend on dpatch [19:53] hm, it does... [19:53] odd [19:55] Bnydell: here's an example of a static /etc/network/interfaces: http://paste.ubuntu.com/32697/ [19:55] Bnydell: you'll need to change the address, netmask, and gateway to match your network though [19:55] ok thanks. I wil give that a try [20:00] sommer: you are missing a dns here [20:01] dns-nameservers 192.168.1.1 [20:03] soren: Bug #223759 it`snt really fixxed in intrepid. [20:03] Launchpad bug 223759 in ifenslave-2.6 "ifupdown integration broken" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/223759 === edmoore_ is now known as edmoore === edmoore is now known as edmoore|away [20:26] can I use server for desktop useage too? what would stop me? what would I miss? [20:27] <_ruben> its possible, wouldnt know why tho [20:28] well, got a server box, quite powerful, got virtual box, would like to run a cad program I have [20:28] ther server hardware is much better than my laptop [20:29] server os or server hardware? [20:29] server os, commodity hardware [20:29] kernel would be a problem [20:30] how does it differ? [20:30] otherwise, desktop and server have exatcly the same packages [20:30] it's not very shiny for multimedia [20:31] I'll have a play - if it's good enough then that's good enough [20:32] thanks for the advice [20:33] np [20:34] nijaba: what's with those WP? [20:35] ivoks: what do you mean? === emgent_ is now known as emgent [20:36] for a review, we've talked about WP at the meeting [20:36] are they ready for review? [20:36] ivoks: yes [20:36] ivoks: one is ready, do you want me to send it to you? [20:36] yes! :) [20:36] ivoks: are you sure you're ready? :) [20:37] sommer: one can never be sure about those things [20:37] but i'm willing to try ;) [20:37] hehehe true [20:38] i hate mosquitos... [20:39] ivoks: sent to your init.hr address [20:40] thanks [20:49] New bug: #253743 in apache2 (main) "[SRU] Add status to init script" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/253743 [21:16] nijaba: nothing about mysql? :D [21:18] ivoks: I have the technical part of the mysql one, but it still needs some love [21:18] ok [21:18] ivoks: before the end of the month though [21:19] that's in 2 hours :D [21:20] ivoks: ok, I meant aug ;) [22:00] chuck_: is this zul? [22:04] kirkland: indeed === chuck_ is now known as zul [22:05] zul: ah, okay, i was going to ask you about sponsoring my samba init script change, but it looks like infinity is taking the bait ;-) [22:06] kirkland: coolio === pteague1 is now known as ghost === ghost is now known as Guest71431 === Guest71431 is now known as pteague1 === pteague1 is now known as pteague_work === edmoore|away is now known as edmoore