| pwnguin | is there some secret to finding the bylaws of The xorg foundation? | 07:41 |
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| pwnguin | im trying to figure out whether that pledge drive for nouveau could have been handled by xorg foundation, but the lack of meeting minutes and bylaws is already suggesting "no" | 07:42 |
| pwnguin | oop, found em | 07:42 |
| crevette | hello there | 09:43 |
| pwnguin | hi | 09:43 |
| crevette | is this normal I can running compiz under intel graphic X3100 ? | 09:51 |
| crevette | "I can't" sorry | 09:51 |
| tjaalton | on intrepid? yes, currently | 09:55 |
| tjaalton | there is a patch for it, but the performance is pretty bad | 09:55 |
| crevette | okay | 09:56 |
| crevette | that's fine | 09:56 |
| crevette | there are a lot of changes on the intel graphics side in intrepid (sorry I don't follow closely developement) | 09:56 |
| crevette | ? | 09:56 |
| tjaalton | always :) | 09:57 |
| tjaalton | mesa 7.1 should have a bunch of changes for the DRI driver, and there's -intel 2.4.0 although it's not yet in intrepid | 09:59 |
| mvo | meh, I had hoped that the new mesa would have fixed the compiz issues | 10:00 |
| tjaalton | what issues? | 10:00 |
| crevette | the performance on intel are really poor, resizing a gtk windows lags a lot for me | 10:01 |
| crevette | this is really choppy | 10:01 |
| mvo | didn't you said earlier that you can not run it at all? | 10:01 |
| mvo | tjaalton: the fact that it would not run at all :) | 10:01 |
| crevette | mvo, just with metacity | 10:02 |
| tjaalton | mvo: it's fixed upstream, but the performance is not that good :) | 10:02 |
| crevette | perhaps I need to blame metacity | 10:02 |
| mvo | tjaalton: aha | 10:03 |
| tjaalton | since the "force greedy exa" patches haven't been forward ported | 10:03 |
| mvo | crevette: I'm still confused. so compiz does *not* run, but metacity does but that (== metacity) is slow? | 10:03 |
| * mvo nods | 10:03 | |
| tjaalton | but seems like the driver only has 12MB of pixmap memory in its disposal, so that could be the reason | 10:04 |
| tjaalton | so it's trashing a lot | 10:04 |
| crevette | mvo, with metacity moving a windows is smooth, but resizing it is painfull slow | 10:06 |
| superm1 | tjaalton, how come all of these bugs from releases earlier to intrepid are being assigned to fglrx-installer? fglrx-installer is intrepid only | 13:20 |
| tjaalton | superm1: because they aren't going to be fixed on lrm | 13:29 |
| superm1 | tjaalton, a lot of what i'm seeing though doesn't even have logs and they are from much earlier releases | 13:30 |
| superm1 | tjaalton, just mark them invalid, they're not going to be triaged if they're that old | 13:30 |
| tjaalton | superm1: feel free to close them :) | 13:30 |
| tjaalton | ok, will do in the future | 13:31 |
| superm1 | so just skip the step of reassigning packages in those cases | 13:31 |
| superm1 | thanks | 13:31 |
| superm1 | i'd like to be able to track bugs that are fixable by packaging (there are a few here and there) | 13:31 |
| superm1 | so extra bug mail at this stage doesn't help :) | 13:31 |
| tjaalton | yeah.. | 13:32 |
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| tjaalton | bryce: librecord probably will be enabled on debian too, now that there's actually a package that needs it | 21:04 |
| bryce | tjaalton: ah ok | 21:06 |
| bryce | tjaalton: btw I have a first cut for the console2fdi.sh script. dunno if it's correct, but nothing fancy | 21:08 |
| bryce | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/32715/ | 21:08 |
| bryce | untested (obviously... already spotted a syntax error) | 21:08 |
| tjaalton | bryce: nice! btw, model should always be evdev, and it's already defined in 10-keymap.fdi | 21:12 |
| bryce | ok | 21:14 |
| bryce | I think I'll start an input hotplug page in the X wiki for keepign notes | 21:18 |
| tjaalton | XKBRULES is not defined in console-setup. base is set on 10-keymap.fdi, so that can be dropped as well | 21:18 |
| bryce | so we should only list it if it's set to something other than base? | 21:21 |
| bryce | or is it just always base? | 21:21 |
| tjaalton | always base | 21:21 |
| bryce | ah, so $XKBMODEL and $XKBRULES are always to be ignored? we only care about $XKBLAYOUT then? | 21:22 |
| tjaalton | and variant, options :) | 21:22 |
| bryce | why is rules always base? | 21:23 |
| tjaalton | the default layout is also defined on 10-keymap.fdi | 21:23 |
| tjaalton | oops | 21:24 |
| tjaalton | XkbRules is set in xorg.conf, but not sourced from /e/d/console-setup | 21:25 |
| tjaalton | and it's 'xorg' by default | 21:25 |
| bryce | hmm, sounds inconsistent | 21:25 |
| bryce | is that a bug or by design? | 21:26 |
| tjaalton | now if I only know the difference between those two | 21:26 |
| tjaalton | knew | 21:26 |
| tjaalton | beats me | 21:26 |
| bryce | does it change the fact that we should ignore it here? | 21:26 |
| tjaalton | not unless we change 10-keymap.fdi. so better just set it as 'xorg' | 21:27 |
| bryce | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/32721/ | 21:30 |
| bryce | sample output: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/32722/ | 21:32 |
| tjaalton | heh, looks simple | 21:32 |
| tjaalton | typo in capabilities :) | 21:33 |
| bryce | good catch | 21:33 |
| bryce | btw, do you have a non-us keyboard setup you could run this script on to doublecheck its output? | 21:37 |
| bryce | http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/InputHotplug/ | 21:37 |
| tjaalton | sure, a sec | 21:41 |
| tjaalton | yep, looks good | 21:42 |
| tjaalton | what about adding a notice that says "don't edit this file, edit /e/d/c-s instead and run .." | 21:44 |
| bryce | yeah | 21:44 |
| bryce | echo | 21:48 |
| bryce | echo '<!-- This file is automatically generated, so do not edit it. ' | 21:48 |
| bryce | echo ' Edit /etc/default/console-setup instead, and then run ' | 21:48 |
| bryce | echo ' dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server -->' | 21:48 |
| bryce | http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/InputHotplug/us-keyboard.fdi | 21:50 |
| tjaalton | sounds good | 21:52 |
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