[00:01] <Xavura> I heard there's a way to make Ubuntu look like Mac OS :D, anyone know about that?
[00:01] <khoda> Just installed ubuntu on my T60 lenovo laptop. I think the video card drivers came setup correctly. how can I check if the ATI drivers are installed?
[00:01] <serkan`c> khoda: glxinfo | grep render
[00:01] <FlipFalcon> can someone help me ubuntu isn't displaying on my full laptop screed
[00:01] <bigjohnto> anyone in here done nic bonding?
[00:01] <serkan`c> if it says Yes, then you have 3d accel.
[00:01] <kitche> khoda: it's using ati drivers most likely, you will either need to use radeonhd or fglrx driver most likely
[00:02] <Pelo> FlipFalcon, dual monitor ?
[00:02] <kitche> khoda: if you want ATI supported drivers
[00:02] <FlipFalcon> nope
[00:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> bigjohnto: i find the best method for nic bonding is to take them fishing for a day and drink beer together
[00:02] <bigjohnto> heh, no really now ethernet bonding
[00:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> oh...  not sure then :(
[00:02] <Pelo> FlipFalcon,  you might just need to play around with the resolution and the video card settnigs,  assuming you ahve a nvidia card try installing and using with  nvidia-settings
[00:03] <FlipFalcon> i tried the trident driver and the package shows as an update
[00:03] <Pelo> anyone know a decent hardware reseller website, I'd just like to check out some prices
[00:03] <FlipFalcon> no i have a trident video card
[00:03] <bigjohnto> Pelo where you located?
[00:03] <fretlessdavis> how do you create an hfs partition in linux?
[00:04] <Pelo> bigjohnto, canada ,  I'm just looking for price info ,  I'm not looking to buy just yet
[00:04] <FlipFalcon> i go into screen resolution and i am limited to 800x600
[00:04] <Pelo> FlipFalcon, what video card /chip set do you have ?
[00:05] <bigjohnto> Pelo, memoryexpress.com
[00:05] <jcovert> can I open firefox remotely and have it actually open there instead of having it x-forward to my local machine?
[00:05] <Pelo> FlipFalcon, go in  menu > system > admin > restricted driver , see if there is a driver waiting to be used
[00:05] <bigjohnto> not sure if you will have it near you, but it gives you a good idea of what prices should look like
[00:05] <FlipFalcon> Trident Cyberblade XP Ai1
[00:05] <K350> ubuntu_live: I don't know where to find sessions in the gconf-editor, any ideas on where to look?
[00:06] <Pelo> jcovert, hold on I have a line for you
[00:06] <deadlyallance484> what is a good Microsoft Visio type program for ubuntu
[00:06] <jcovert> Pelo:  thanks  :-)
[00:06] <ninefold> Hello. I copied a directory to my USB mp3 player and it something got screwed up in the copying and the file system in that directory is really messed up. So much a doing "ls" on the directory hangs "ls". I've tried "rm" the directory but it says that its system files. Can someone help me out with how to remove this directory?
[00:06] <Pelo> jcovert, try  export DISPLAY=:0 && firefox   that should work
[00:06] <khoda> kitche: So I don't want to use the ATI drivers that I have now? It says, direct rendering: Yes, OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon X1400
[00:06] <Dominik1> ubuntu_live: hmm the game opens a new window, but that window just stays white and then there is some weird graphic glitch in the center (a bunch of squares) and then It says that it isn't responding and I can either wait or force quit :-/
[00:06] <adude> dude
[00:07] <Pelo> FlipFalcon, is that from the restricted driver manager ?
[00:07] <ubuntu_live> K350: the sessions method is not in gconf, it's in gdm (the login screen) you can select your session type (and iwndow manager)
[00:07] <FlipFalcon> i tried updating the xorg trident driver
[00:07] <jcovert> Pelo:  thanks, i'll give that a try in just a minute  :-D
[00:07] <kitche> khoda: well you can but you can get better results with fglrx
[00:07] <choudeshell> Hello. Anyone have hda-intel sound in 8.04.1?
[00:07] <ubuntu_live> Dominik1: :-/ sorry dude, well that's about the extent of my knowledge, appdb and #winehq are the only things i can really do for you now, sorry
[00:07] <FlipFalcon> i went to install the package and it shows as an update
[00:07] <DIFH-iceroot> anyone using asus eeePC with eeebuntu or kubuntu? i am interessted if the asus eeepc + ubuntu is a good idea i would prefer kde with the eeePC
[00:07] <crimsun> choudeshell: sure, but that doesn't mean much.  You want to ask about the specific codec.
[00:07] <khoda> kitche: some of the text on certain webpages seems fuzzy. could this be because of that?
[00:07] <deadlyallance484> what is a good Microsoft Visio type program for ubuntu
[00:08] <Dominik1> ubuntu_live: ok thx 4 the help
[00:08] <DevilBA>  /msg nickserv register 12219009bari23 alexanderlinuxwin32@virgilio.it
[00:08] <Pelo> FlipFalcon, ok  easy fix then ,   do this   open a terminal type  gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ,  scroll down to where you see resolutions listed , and add the extra resolutions you want manualy ,  for each color depts ,  then save and restart X ,
[00:08] <K350> ubuntu_live: aha, and once selected that'll be the one for all users and allways? Because that's how I want it to be.
[00:08] <jcovert> Pelo:  if i export display=:0 once, will it every time i open firefox, open there then?
[00:08] <DIFH-iceroot> deadlyallance484: jude, umbrello, rational rose, eclipse + omundo
[00:08] <shwan> deadlyallance484: use google and forum search always http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-204963.html
[00:08] <choudeshell> crimsun, well - I have no sound what so ever. regres'd test to .16, nothing. all modules are loaded - nothing.
[00:08] <kitche> khoda: no could be due to anti-aliasing
[00:08] <ubuntu_live> K350: well when you actually log in it will ask if you want to always do that or not
[00:08] <Pelo> jcovert, no , it's a per command extra
[00:08] <eitreach> is there any good gui for tor that works with Ubuntu? Tried Vidalia, but it hangs on startup.
[00:08] <choudeshell> crimsun, rebuilt alsa modules, nothing
[00:08] <khoda> kitche: can/should I turn that off?
[00:09] <K350> ubuntu_live: hm I couldn't see that but I'll have anothe rlook,...
[00:09] <jcovert> Pelo: alright, can i make it an always kinda-thing?
[00:09] <FlipFalcon> my authentification failed??
[00:09] <Pelo> ubuntu_live, no need to keep this chat private,    even if it is already in hardy ,  you are better off setting up /home on a seperate parttion
[00:09] <deadlyallance484> DIFH-iceroot thanks will look in to them
[00:09] <crimsun> choudeshell: we need to start from a sane point.  Please boot from an 8.04.1 desktop cd
[00:09] <choudeshell> crimsun, no sound.
[00:09] <Pelo> jcovert, you can make a launcher with that whole command line
[00:09] <crimsun> choudeshell: no, I mean you need to do that now so we can proceed with troubleshooting.
[00:09] <Pelo> jcovert, right click the desktop  add lanucher or create or new launcher or something
[00:10] <jcovert> Pelo:  I'm having Selenium (a web app QA tester) open firefox on my server
[00:10] <choudeshell> crimsun, ok its booted
[00:10] <Pelo> jcovert, try out the command first i'm not sure about the 0,  might be 1 2 or even 3
[00:10] <ubuntu_live> Pelo: true, it's just considerably more convenient for me right now
[00:10] <crimsun> choudeshell: now, please run the alsa-info.sh debugging script and tell me the url it generates.
[00:10] <Pelo> jcovert, make it a script and have selenium launch the script
[00:11] <edavidburg> Does anyone here use wmii?
[00:11] <jonfore> how can I get involved with development? Is there a channel?
[00:11] <khoda> kitche: should I turn that anti-aliasing off? what is that? some of my text looks fuzzy
[00:11] <crimsun> jonfore: ubuntu-motu
[00:11] <jcovert> Pelo: I can try that - that's a little messier - i'll have to go through a bunch of selenium config files i think
[00:11] <jonfore> thank you
[00:11] <Pelo> ubuntu_live, I'm not sure hardy has it ,  you can always jsut resize your current /,  make a new part , move the /home data to it and the just resize the / to 10 gig or something and expand /home to take up the rest
[00:11] <Reformer81> Could someone point me in the right direction to get my keyboard working properly?  It's a fairly regular Microsoft Wireless Desktop 4000.  The only issues I'm really having with it is that only the F1 key works.  I can't use any of the other function keys (Alt-F2, Ctrl-Alt-F3, etc)...
[00:12] <Pelo> jcovert, if you can put that command directly in selenium that might be better but we have gone beyond my level of skill at this point ( actualy we passed it the moment you talked about selenium)
[00:12] <choudeshell> crimsun, http://pastebin.ca/1087746
[00:13] <jcovert> Pelo:  alrighty, thanks so much  :-D
[00:13] <Pelo> Reformer81, you are aware that F keys in lunux don'T have the same function as in windows,  they might be working but not doing anything you can currently notice or know about
[00:13] <Pelo> FlipFalcon, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel
[00:13] <Reformer81> Pelo: Yes, I know that.  Which is why I specified two linux-only examples ;)
[00:14] <FlipFalcon> Gnome-WARNING **: while connecting to session manager: Authentification Rejected, reason : None of the authentification protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[00:14] <FlipFalcon> what does this mean
[00:14] <Pelo> Reformer81, you might also look up the keyb model number in the forum there mgiht be some specific info
[00:14] <Reformer81> Pelo: Can't switch to a new terminal (Ctrl-Alt-F2) or launch the "Run..." dialog (Alt-F2)
[00:14] <Pelo> FlipFalcon,  when/where are you getting this
[00:14] <Reformer81> Pelo: I tried that... seems I'm the only one with the problem?
[00:14] <khoda> anyone know why some of my text looks fuzzy? just installed ubuntu, seems to have ATI drivers already installed...
[00:14] <FlipFalcon> when i enter the command you were talking about
[00:15] <ForzaPalermo> what is the default meta key in ubuntu?
[00:15] <Pelo> Reformer81, count the keys on the keyb and make sure you selected the correct keyboard model in the keyboard dialog thingy
[00:15] <Pelo> Reformer81, or flip the keyb over and read the label at the back
[00:15] <Reformer81> Pelo: Well, this has a lot of extra "multimedia" keys....  My specific model wasn't available in the keyboard dialog "thingy" I don't think :)
[00:15] <choudeshell> crimsun, anything jumping out at you?
[00:15] <Pelo> ForzaPalermo, meta ? you mean super ?   the window key is usualy it but i scratched off the window logo on mine
[00:15] <kitche> ForzaPalermo: depends on what your using for a desktop but I believe gnome's is ctrl I believe but not sure I can always go check real quick
[00:16] <molgrum> latest virtualbox module is for -19 kernels, is the -20 coming?
[00:16] <FlipFalcon> Pelo???
[00:16] <ForzaPalermo> im using kde
[00:16] <Pelo> Reformer81, must count the regular keyb keys if you get me,  don'T count the multimedia key function keys
[00:16] <ForzaPalermo> windows key doesnt work :(
[00:16] <Reformer81> Pelo: After changing the keyboard model, do I need to log out before it becomes active?
[00:16] <crimsun> choudeshell: your primary control is 'Headphone', not 'Master'
[00:16] <Pelo> ForzaPalermo, try asking in #kubuntu or #kde
[00:16] <hanna> hey everybody, can anybody help me with my wifi adapter? , ive installed ndiswrapper, also installed the driver, i did a ndiswrapper -l and it says present, ive set it on the modules, did also a modprobe ndiswrapper, but ive lost the config in the /etc/network/interfaces  , can anyone help me? i cannot get the wifi adapter up
[00:17] <ubuntu_live> gtg later everybody
[00:17] <Pelo> FlipFalcon, when are you getting this error message
[00:17] <crimsun> choudeshell: likewise, IIRC, 'Front' is useless.  maco has that same audio codec.
[00:17] <FlipFalcon> yeah
[00:17] <crimsun> choudeshell: note that 'Headphone' is muted.
[00:17] <choudeshell> crimsun, how do I switch it?
[00:17] <FlipFalcon> why is it having this problem it goes into root fine
[00:17] <crimsun> choudeshell: use the mixer applet to unmute it, or use alsamixer, or use amixer, or use aumix, or ...
[00:18] <Pelo> FlipFalcon,  is this your computer do you have administrator priviledge on it ?
[00:18] <FlipFalcon> yeah its my computer
[00:18] <choudeshell> crimsun, thanks
[00:18] <Pelo> FlipFalcon, linux is case sensitive , make sure you have cap locks disabled
[00:19] <iki> How can I listen podcasts such as "BBC In our time" directly in ubuntu without browser?
[00:19] <Pelo> FlipFalcon,  you are not in consol mode are you ? try   sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf then
[00:19] <Reformer81> Pelo: After changing the keyboard model, do I need to log out before it becomes active?
[00:20] <Pelo> Reformer81, don't think so but the kb stuff is part of X so yeah restarting x would not be too much I think ,   crtl _alt _ backspace
[00:20] <FlipFalcon> ok i am in the file what do i do
[00:21] <DevedseNDSx> gg
[00:21] <Pelo> FlipFalcon,  scroll down to where you see some screen resolutions listed,  then add the ones you need
[00:21] <DavidCanarias> Does anyone know an easy way to import an audio cd/cd's into the computer and then burn an mp3 disc with selected tracks. Ive tried k3b and cant get anywhwere? Or is it a difficult process?
[00:21] <FlipFalcon> when i go to section device identified it just says configured video device
[00:22] <Pelo> FlipFalcon, in Section "Screen"
[00:22] <sotec_prod> Evening! How do I create a symbolic link to a newly installed hdd so that I can see it in the Places menu?
[00:22] <FlipFalcon> configured monitor etc
[00:22] <Reformer81> Pelo: Alright, I selected "Microsoft Wireless Multimedia" keyboard (I have a Microsoft Wireless Desktop 4000).  Still no good.  I tried most of the Generic keyboards too... still nothing.
[00:22] <FlipFalcon> default screen
[00:22] <FlipFalcon> configured monitor
[00:22] <FlipFalcon> configured video device
[00:22] <FlipFalcon> thats everything in that section
[00:23] <Pelo> sotec_prod, you need to have it mounted in fstab , but to get it in places ,  just open nautilus ,  go to the folder of the mountpoint,  in the nautilus menu,   look for bookmark I think , at to book mark
[00:23] <glitsj16> !fstab | sotec_prod
[00:23] <khalil> jbjk
[00:23] <FlipFalcon> i want my fullscreen LOL
[00:23] <Pelo> FlipFalcon, add a line   Option "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600"
[00:24] <Sylphid> evening all
[00:24] <FlipFalcon> under configured video device??
[00:24] <sotec_prod> Pelo: I'll try that. glitsj16, thank you.
[00:24] <Pelo> FlipFalcon,  look at the top of the file there is a command to reconfigure x  ,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[00:24] <Pelo> try that
[00:25] <osxdude> Anyone know how to add comments to SH files?
[00:25] <osxdude> It's just a #, right?
[00:25] <Pelo> osxdude, open it in  some text editor and start your comment line with #
[00:25] <Imaginal> When I try to gksudo into Ex Falso as another user, the program won't open. The shell gives a bunch of errors. What is going on here?
[00:25] <popey> iki: paste the url into rhythmbox
[00:25] <osxdude> thought so, Pelo. thanks
[00:27]  * DevedseNDSx wii adac around a bit with a large wiimote
[00:27] <thomc> what would be the best filesystem to go for on an external hd to be shared between ubuntu, windows and macos?
[00:27] <FlipFalcon> ok pelo now what do i do
[00:27] <MRcheese> will an extent based filesystem speed up performance?
[00:27] <Pelo> thomc, fat32
[00:27] <phillip> Hi everyone I'm having a sound issue. I'm getting system sounds, but I'm not getting any sound when playing music or watching video
[00:28] <thomc> ok thanks
[00:28] <adac> DevedseNDSx: whats up?
[00:28] <phillip> I'm using hardy heron with by the way.
[00:28] <FlipFalcon> first you told me to go into that text file and add an option now i am in a folder?
[00:28] <Pelo> phillip, check in menu > system > prefs > sound something ,   make sure you ahve the correct device selected for all audio events
[00:28] <Coded1> I have an xpsp3 box with a wireless card connected to the net, I have a linux box with no wireless conected to xp via straight through cable, whats the best way for xp to give linux net?  any info is appreciated :)
[00:28] <phillip> pelo it's set to autodetect for all
[00:29] <Pelo> FlipFalcon, talking to me ?
[00:29] <iki> popey: I've done that but I cannot still listen podcast :( Is this program downloading them or what is happening after pasting the url?
[00:29] <FlipFalcon> yeah
[00:29] <Pelo> !sound | phillip try this
[00:29] <histo> Has anyone used airdriver-ng to install patched drivers in ubuntu 8.04?
[00:29] <backenfutter> phillip: got ESD activated?
[00:29] <histo> Just wondering if it will work or bork the system.
[00:29] <FlipFalcon> do i redo that file like you originally told me
[00:29] <Pelo> FlipFalcon, did you add the line ? did you save the file ?  restart X now ctrl+alt+backspace
[00:30] <Dominik1> anyone experienced with wine (especially getting games to run) ?
[00:30] <phillip> backenfutter to be honest don't even know what that is
[00:30] <FlipFalcon> no i didn't add the line
[00:30] <phillip> it's an old SBlive card
[00:30] <gregthe1> I have a video file recorded in PAL.  Anyone know if I can change totem to "pal mode"?
[00:30] <phillip> and under what pelo just sent me it says it's a sblive (alsa)
[00:30] <Dominik1> this is the error output: http://pastebin.com/m3d65313e
[00:30] <Pelo> FlipFalcon,  go in the xorg.conf file and add the line in the SEction screen ,
[00:31] <Pelo> !who | EVERYONE
[00:31] <backenfutter> phillip: its in that window as well... second tab top checkbox... its is for soundmixing
[00:31] <gregthe1> I have a video file recorded in PAL.  Anyone know if I can change totem to "pal mode"?
[00:32] <Pelo> gregthe1, might want to give vlc a try
[00:32] <gregthe1> Pelo, does that have pal mode?
[00:32] <phillip> backenfutter so you think I should try using the esd instead of the autodetect?
[00:32] <Pelo> gregthe1, and I don'T thin this should matter on a computer , might want to add the dvd support that might make it work
[00:32] <Pelo> !dvd | gregthe1
[00:33] <ManualOverDozer8> whomever suggested gConf, thanks, it really allowed me to configure how Gnome looks
[00:33] <backenfutter> phillip: just check the box and leave autodetect
[00:33] <backenfutter> phillip: if that doesn't help I pass
[00:33] <gregthe1> Pelo, someone said this video was converted incorrectly from PAL and I should watch it in Pal mode to compensate
[00:33] <FlipFalcon> pelo: section screen? i went into that file like you said and added the line like you tole me
[00:34]  * Pelo thinks backenfutter gives up to easily , he should view this as a personnal chanlenge and a learning oportunity
[00:35] <phillip> pelo and backenfutter I just dont get why system sounds work but if I try to play ultimedia it doesn't
[00:35] <FlipFalcon> like you said option "1280x1024""1024x768""800x600" how do i save the file now??
[00:35]  * backenfutter is conform with pelo, but thinks he doesn't know how many icq windows I have active atm ;)
[00:35] <Pelo> gregthe1, , PAL is a european standard for dvds, It shouldn't matter in a computer,  if your file is on a dvd , and is a dvd ( ei .VOB) , you might need to in stall  dvd support in ubuntu,  but if it's a avi file or a mpg I don'T think this should be an issue,  have you tried watching hte file already ?
[00:36] <Pelo> phillip, must how the sound gets directed throught your system,  review the sound trouble shooter guide , I gave you earlier
[00:36] <backenfutter> phillip: the technicla problem is, that linux isn't mixing the outgoing sounds... that's all I can say bout that... google ubuntu soundmixing
[00:36] <gregthe1> It's an AVI file.  I'm downloading it now.  He said the voices are sped up / high pitched from the conversion
[00:36] <cuculare> Heloo
[00:36] <FlipFalcon> pelo i am still in the file how do i go and save it???
[00:37]  * Pelo thinks backenfutter  needs to focus,  Pelo only has the one IRC channel going 
[00:37] <backenfutter> ^^ focus young padawn
[00:37] <Pelo> FlipFalcon, did you use the nano command to open it ?
[00:37] <cuculare> My name is Milos
[00:37] <FlipFalcon> yeah
[00:37] <Pelo> FlipFalcon,   ctrl+X ,  answer Yes and you are done ,  restart X
[00:37] <cuculare> Im from Montenegro
[00:38] <formol> test
[00:38] <SeveredCross> Argh, I think I broke PulseAudio/gstreamer.
[00:38]  * SeveredCross reboots.
[00:38] <Adun> anyone know about video card install problems?
[00:38] <ManualOverDozer8> formol : test good
[00:38] <Pelo> Adun, what video card ?
[00:38] <Adun> gefore 9 series
[00:38] <Pelo> Adun, did you try the restricted driver ?
[00:38]  * FlipFalcon keeps fingers crossed hoping this works
[00:38] <Adun> got unrecognised screen and unsupported 3D games after
[00:39] <Adun> tried nvidia deb packages
[00:39] <Pelo> Adun, is the driver active ?
[00:39] <planet_x> just wondering if anyone knows a good guide for installing 8.04 on an EEE PC 1000H , is it as easy as putting it on a USB stick and installing from there or what? just wanted advice before I started thanks
[00:39] <Adun> and to install it from nvidia's site
[00:39] <Adun> driver got active
[00:39] <Pici> planet_x: try #ubuntu-eeepc
[00:39] <Adun> followed what the ubuntu forums told about it
[00:39] <planet_x> thanks
[00:39] <cuculare> Heloo
[00:39] <backenfutter> planet_x: first: nice name... second: there are guides out there specially describing hardy install on EEE
[00:40] <Pelo> Adun, install   nvidia-settings and run it from the command line using gksu nvidia-settings,   select the stuff you need from the second menu thingy and save to X then restart see if that helps
[00:40] <Random_life> any flash editors for ubuntu?
[00:40] <kitche> Random_life: nope well not the flash editor you are probably looking for
[00:40] <planet_x> ya tryin to find a good one backenfutter il keep searching, thanks
[00:40] <Random_life> kitche: woo, okay :P
[00:40] <Adun> yeah but the problem is that the screen got unrecognised too now because
[00:40] <kitche> Random_life: it has flash decompilers though I found out
[00:41] <Pelo> Adun, nvidia settings should recognise the screen and make the appropriate entry in xorg.conf
[00:41] <Adun> when installing the driver it configured the etc/X11/x..._.conf
[00:41] <Adun> kk
[00:41]  * Pelo needs to get going 
[00:41] <ubuntu> hola
[00:41] <Adun> so all I needed was to run nvidia settings
[00:41] <Adun> =/
[00:41] <Pelo> am I still helping anyone with anything or I'm I all done
[00:41] <Adun> kk
[00:42] <Adun> thx for the info
[00:42] <Pelo> Adun,  don't know but if you haven'T yet do it , it might solve the problem
[00:42] <ManualOverDozer8> Adun : after installing nvidia-settings you can run it from terminal
[00:42]  * Pelo is out for the night , best of luck to everyone 
[00:42] <hou5ton> New install of OpenOffice is not finding java ... but I have java folders in /usr/share/ ... ??
[00:43] <ManualOverDozer8> hou5ton : jre or sun ?
[00:43] <spiel_mit_feuer> is there any software i can use to open java applets from a website without opening the website?
[00:43] <spiel_mit_feuer> sort of like an applet player?
[00:44] <hou5ton> ManualOverDozer8:  it isn't clear ... I don't see signs of either, but I'm not sure.  I was about to install java from their website into /usr/java ... but saw this folder??
[00:44] <FlipFalcon> now its fullscreen but everything is all craggy
[00:45] <backenfutter> spiel_mit_feuer: note there is #ubuntu.de
[00:45] <Balian> I need help with idjc !!!
[00:45] <FlipFalcon> it went into configure but lets see if a restart fixes it
[00:45] <niadh> Hey I opted to have /home on a seperate drive, but upon resoration of my system /home is part of a smaller disk only intended for the OS part
[00:45] <niadh> How can I remount home to the larger drive on the fly?
[00:47] <Guest62690> Hi, I just installed Ubunty (Hardy Heron) and I can't change screen resolution. I enabled the restricted drivers (I get an icon saying "new restricted drivers in use" which I can't seem to get to not show). Any guides for installing graphics drivers? nVidia.
[00:47] <cplx> hi guys.. i have a ubuntu box.. its internal ip is 10.2.10.10 - I want it to point to a gateway on another subnet.. ie- 10.5.10.254 whats the best way to do this?
[00:47] <Balian> anybody hawe idjc
[00:47] <FlipFalcon> thanks pelo you are a lifesaver
[00:47] <kitche> cplx: kinda hard to do on another subnet
[00:47] <ManualOverDozer8> !xorg > ﻿Guest62690
[00:47] <glitsj16> spiel_mit_feuer: check out http://applet2app.sourceforge.net/User_Manual.htm .. you can convert the java applet to a standalone linux executable with this, might be what you're looking for
[00:47] <FlipFalcon> can someone help me out with tablet mode??
[00:47] <cplx> kitche - so the best way to do it would be to put the box on the other subnet?
[00:48] <kitche> cplx: yep or do you have a bridge between the two?
[00:48] <aritos> hi whats this for?
[00:48] <cplx> kitche - yep all routes etc are there
[00:48] <aritos> i am new here and just stumbled in
[00:48] <spiel_mit_feuer> sounds god glits, wonder if itll work with yahoo games
[00:48] <aritos> anyways
[00:48] <cplx> kitche - the 2 subnets can talk to eachother
[00:48] <aritos> have fun
[00:48] <MrKennie> niadh: it is easily possible.
[00:48] <FlipFalcon> anybody know how i can get my digitizer in linux
[00:49] <Balian> who can help my with "Internet DJ Console"
[00:49] <niadh> MrKennie: How do I do it? Since I use serial ata the /etc/fstab makes no sense to me.
[00:49] <kitche> cplx: hmm been a while sicne I changed a gateway on a linux machine but you can do it with the route command
[00:49] <FlipFalcon> my computer is a tablet pc
[00:50] <FlipFalcon> anybody here??
[00:50] <MrKennie> niadh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146713
[00:50] <regeya> no.
[00:51]  * FlipFalcon wants to use his tablet in ubuntu
[00:51] <glitsj16> spiel_mit_feuer: that i don't know, only used it once to test an applet
[00:51] <hou5ton> man ... what is the command to just go to root in a terminal?  I'm not looking for sudo <command> ... but what I do to just be root?
[00:51] <FlipFalcon> su
[00:51] <ManualOverDozer8> sudo -i
[00:51] <kitche> hou5ton: sudo -i
[00:51] <MrKennie> niadh: obviously replace /dev/hdb1 with whatever device yours is.
[00:51] <niadh> MrKennie: Does fs type matter?
[00:51] <hou5ton> su doesn't work ... you get Authentication failure
[00:51] <FlipFalcon> how do i use my tablet
[00:52] <rblst> can anyone help me with virtualbox bridging?
[00:52] <kitche> hou5ton: well root is locked so you can't use su
[00:52] <FlipFalcon> i had that problem just type sudo passwd
[00:52] <freqk> Hey, I'm scared to install Ubuntu on my new iMac because I think it will try to install grub and things will screw up.
[00:52] <MrKennie> niadh: http://www.ivankuznetsov.com/2008/04/moving-home-to-its-own-partition.html a guide you might find useful too.
[00:52] <hou5ton> kitche:  wow ... sudo -i didn't even ask for a password?
[00:52] <freqk> I mean, the Mac has it's native bootloader and everything.
[00:52] <kitche> hou5ton: it does if you didn't enter one for a few minutes
[00:52] <MrKennie> niadh: well, I would assuem you are goign to use ext3
[00:52] <kitche> !root | FlipFalcon
[00:52] <hou5ton> kitche:  ok
[00:52] <hou5ton> thanks
[00:53] <kitche> FlipFalcon: well that's suppose to be noroot actually
[00:53] <niadh> MrKennie: Reiser just cos I'm annoying like that.
[00:53] <MrKennie> niadh: actually, that last link is moving /home to a partition
[00:53] <MrKennie> so ignore that :)
[00:53] <Balian> i hawe tar.gz but i need .deb how do this
[00:53] <MrKennie> niadh: that's fine
[00:53] <FlipFalcon> ubottu how do i get tablet mode working
[00:53] <rblst> does anyone know how to setup bridging for virtualbox?
[00:53] <MrKennie> niadh: jsut add reiserfs as the fs type.
[00:54] <\3TATUK> Mmm be sure to remove all old debian packages with this special command line: sudo rm -rf /
[00:54] <MrKennie> \3TATUK: sounds liek an excellent idea
[00:54] <\3TATUK> :)
[00:54] <FlipFalcon> can anybody here know how to get the pen tablet working in linux
[00:54] <Balian> jak zrobić z tar.gz  paczke dla debiana
[00:54] <FlipFalcon> i have a toshiba portege 3500
[00:55] <niadh> MrKennie: Uhm, so apparently my hard drive WAS mounted to home, but 187GB of it are being taken up :S
[00:55] <kitche> FlipFalcon: well by default ubuntu uses wacom
[00:55] <FlipFalcon> well my comp has a wacom digitizer
[00:56] <FlipFalcon> its just not working in linux
[00:56] <MrKennie> niadh: You can check to see what's what using df -h
[00:56] <ManualOverDozer8> dont do ﻿sudo rm -rf /
[00:56] <FlipFalcon> is there a command to enable it??
[00:56] <Flannel> ManualOverDozer8: Don't say it at all.
[00:56] <ManualOverDozer8> \3TATUK should have his IP banned for > ﻿sudo rm -rf /
[00:56] <ManualOverDozer8> dont do it!!!
[00:56] <mateo0802> can someone help me???  a friend of mine said i can use ubuntu to reset a password i forgot on windows vista, but i dont know how.. i really need help
[00:56] <Balian> anybody speak polisch???!!!
[00:56] <niadh> MrKennie: Yeah I did that, since I couldn't unmount my hard drive I assumed it was in use
[00:57] <Flannel> !pl | Balian
[00:57] <MrKennie> niadh: Ah, OK.
[00:57] <niadh> MrKennie: df -h revealed that /home is mounted onto that drive but practically 90% of it is in use :S
[00:57] <FlipFalcon> is there a ubuntu tablet pc irc channel??
[00:57] <MrKennie> niadh: by what?
[00:57] <kitche> FlipFalcon: would actually suggest to look up some guides on it actually
[00:57] <niadh> MrKennie: Scotch mist by the looks of it.
[00:58] <L1nc01n> I'm getting an iPhone from AT&T at some point in the next week or so, and I was wondering if iPods/iPhones/etc could be synced through iTunes running in Wine or something.  I haven't done this before...
[00:58] <FlipFalcon> i did
[00:58] <MrKennie> niadh: lol, try cd /home and then du -h
[00:58] <L1nc01n> That is, without unlocking the iPhone or something
[00:58] <MrKennie> still sounds likr a lot to lose, though
[00:58] <MrKennie> like*
[00:59] <Taseme> well, guys. remind me never to update. ever
[00:59] <mateo0802> can someone help me? pleasee
[00:59] <niadh> MrKennie: I have a hunch here...
[00:59] <mateo0802> im locked out of my windows vista because i forgot the password
[00:59] <MrKennie> try ##windows
[00:59] <mateo0802> where?
[00:59] <magneticubuntu> mateo0802, easy to fix google it
[00:59] <MrKennie> the channel
[01:00] <FlipFalcon> how do i get my pen tablet mode to work
[01:00] <MrKennie> FlipFalcon: wacom?
[01:00] <atomicsunset_> www.justfuckinggoogleit.com ;)
[01:00] <L1nc01n> Do any of you have an iPhone?
[01:00] <FlipFalcon> i have searched extensively i can't find a way
[01:00] <Flannel> !jfgi | atomicsunset_
[01:01] <MrKennie> FlipFalcon: wacom?
[01:01] <Pici> mateo0802: /join ##windows   We don't handle vista issues here.
[01:01] <atomicsunset_> lol i meant no disrespect
[01:01] <atomicsunset_> its an actual website
[01:02] <MrKennie> I don't think even Microsoft handle Vista issues.
[01:02] <FlipFalcon> anybody here wanna help me out here
[01:02] <niadh> Also I have a friend who has the edimax PCI wireless care which appears to run the rt2561 driver and has a wpa_psk wireless network, can anyone help me write a script to install the driver for her?
[01:02] <MrKennie> FlipFalcon: WACOM?
[01:02] <MrKennie> FlipFalcon: what make is it??
[01:02] <FlipFalcon> its a tablet pc
[01:03] <FlipFalcon> it has a wacom digitizer
[01:03] <Taseme> i have a few issues. should i just pm someone ? this could be a long problem
[01:03] <MrKennie> FlipFalcon: oh, I see
[01:03] <FlipFalcon> its a toshiba portege 3500
[01:04] <MrKennie> FlipFalcon: tried this ? http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/archives/2008/03/13/wacom-digitizer-tablet-on-an-hp-2710p-with-ubuntu-gutsy-works-fine/ Principal should be the same.
[01:05] <L1nc01n> I'm getting an iPhone from AT&T at some point in the next week or so, and I was wondering if iPods/iPhones/etc could be synced through iTunes running in Wine or something.  I haven't done this before...
[01:06] <Kane1> hey im trying to open a port for transmission but transmission says its closed
[01:06] <MrKennie> L1nc01n: Google might be your friend there.
[01:06] <ejer> L1nc01n: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[01:06] <maco> why does Firefox say GDebi doesn't exist when i tell it to open a .deb with GDebi and when I can see gdebi and gdebi-gtk in my path?  And when I save the deb and double click it, GDebi opens just dandy
[01:07] <L1nc01n> hey, thanks guys
[01:07] <MrKennie> nice, there's a howto on it :)
[01:07] <lazertek_> how can i open an application in the remote computer using ssh
[01:07] <ejer> thereis a howto on everything
[01:07] <MrKennie> =)
[01:07] <crimsun> maco: any chance you upgraded xulrunner*/firefox-3.0* and didn't restart FF?
[01:08] <MrKennie> except me
[01:08] <lazertek_> something like rhythmbox
[01:08] <ejer> lazertek_: ssh remotecomputerip
[01:08] <ejer> oh
[01:08] <sanyynn> Anyone knows why does the synaptic touchpad freezing the mouse always? :S
[01:08] <SubOne> I have an issue with my clock. I have an LED clock on the outside of my laptop that gets its time based on the BIOS. I currently have the BIOS set correctly and by extension the LED clock is correct. However, `date` shows the correct time but `/sbin/hwclock` returns the incorrect time and therefor not the actual BIOS time (BIOS != hwclock?). The gnome panel clock says the time specified by hwclock and yet in all of this confusion NTP is 
[01:08] <ejer> lazertek_: you vould use vnc
[01:08] <lazertek_> ejer: but that won't let me open a x aplication on the remote computer
[01:08] <maco> crimsun: umm
[01:08]  * maco runs away
[01:08] <lazertek_> ejer: yes but i was wondering how i could do that using ssh
[01:09] <MrKennie> lazertek_: you need to enable Xforwarding
[01:09] <Sp0tter> Has anyone run Ubuntu desktop from an SD card on a laptop?
[01:09] <ejer> lazertek_: x11vnc will let you see remote screen locally, you run it through ssh session, then connect to vnc server
[01:09] <Kane1> i used the cmd line to open a port but transmission says its closed, any ideas?
[01:09] <lazertek_> ejer: it can do it in mac so i suppose in ubuntu that would be possible too
[01:09] <ejer> lazertek_: ssh -X will let you run it locally
[01:09] <Led-Zeppelin> o wow
[01:09] <lazertek_> ejer: so if i type in rhythmbox for example it will open a rhythmbox in the remote computer?
[01:10] <lazertek_> ejer cuz i think it opened it on the one i was ssh-ing from
[01:10] <ejer> lazertek_: yes, to open it on remote you need to control remote X session with x11vnc for example, or export the local display then open it
[01:10] <Kane1> ﻿i used the cmd line to open a port but transmission says its closed, any ideas?
[01:11] <maco> crimsun: restarted firefox. tried again. still fail.
[01:11] <rblst> anyone has experience with VirtualBox bridging?
[01:11] <ejer> Kane1: you need to do it on your router as well if you have one
[01:11] <lazertek_> ejer: but how about opening it through the command line...
[01:11] <Kane1> ejer, hmm how do i do that
[01:11] <lazertek_> ejer: because sometimes when i do it through the internet transfering the whole screen takes too long
[01:11] <ejer> lazertek_: yes, you can export display to be localhost then open rhythmbox
[01:12] <crimsun> maco: perhaps asac has an idea in #ubuntu-mozillateam.  I'm not convinced it's a FF issue.
[01:12] <ejer> lazertek_: you can either control whole screen with vnc or you can open the program locally with ssh -X
[01:12] <lazertek_> ejer: ah... so how do i epxport the display to be local host
[01:12] <lazertek_> ejer: do i have install something on the host or remote computer
[01:13] <SubOne> I can't believe I spent all that time typing that and nobody feels competent enough to answer...
[01:13] <ejer> can you see this remote computer's screen lazertek_?
[01:14] <lazertek_> no when i ssh -X i just get the terminal log in
[01:14] <lazertek_> ejer: then when i open an application it opens it in my computer instead of the remote
[01:14] <MrKennie> lazertek_: the server needs to have Xforwarding enabled
[01:14] <ejer> hehe you need to clarify what you want to achieve lazertek_ sorry
[01:15] <Kane1> how do i open ports on my router?
[01:15] <ejer> SubOne: what is time difference
[01:15] <lazertek_> MrKennie: how do enable it through the command line... is there a command or something i edit in x.org
[01:15] <Taseme> i equip my robe and wizard hat
[01:15] <SubOne> -6 hours
[01:15] <lazertek_> ejer: ill try to be more clear
[01:15] <MrKennie> lazertek_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto well wirth a read
[01:15] <MrKennie> worth a read too
[01:16] <glitsj16> maco: have you tried that with the appropriate firefox-gnome-support package installed yet ? just a longshot ..
[01:16] <lazertek_> MrKennie: ill check it out thanks
[01:16] <ejer> SubOne: is hwclock displaying your timezone correctly
[01:16] <SubOne> yes
[01:17] <iwtk> Good day (and night :P)
[01:17] <ejer> Kane1: http://portforward.com/
[01:17] <SubOne> ejer: both were displaying it correctly
[01:17] <MrKennie> lazertek_: but it's really a simple matter of editing /etc/ssh/sshd_config and setting X11Forwarding to yes, then restart sshd on the server.
[01:18] <ejer> SubOne: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=382199 second post?
[01:18] <MrKennie> lazertek_: all covered in the howto in anycase
[01:18] <lazertek_> whats the command to restart ssh
[01:18] <Taseme> I EQUIP MY ROBE AND FUCKING WIZARD HAT
[01:18] <SubOne> i just ran `sudo /sbin/hwclock --hctosys` and now my gnome panel clock shows the correct ime but now `date` and `hwclock` return -6 hours correct time, with both correct time zone. The time on the LED clock is correct for the moment but I can't be certain what it will say once I reboot
[01:18] <Taseme> I CAST LEVEL 3 EROTICISM
[01:18] <amenado> lazertek_-> why do you feel you need to restart sshd ?
[01:19] <MrKennie> lazertek_: /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[01:19] <lazertek_> MrKennie: thanks
[01:19] <SubOne> ejer: checking... i will report
[01:19] <lazertek_> amenado: no but after editing the ssh config file so that it can take effect
[01:20] <MrKennie> lazertek_: you may need to logout and log back into the server again after that and it should work.
[01:20] <amenado> lazertek_-> you need to send a SIGUSR1 signal to the daemon
[01:20] <SubOne> ejer: sure enough it was set as such... i will reboot to see the effects of the change...
[01:20] <ejer> nice
[01:21] <lazertek_> amenado: whats that
[01:21] <atomicsunset_> can AWN be ran through virtualbox?
[01:22] <mattspry> is there an easy one-liner to install development toolchain?
[01:22] <ejer> mattspry: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[01:22] <amenado> lazertek_-> you may have to man signal  for more info
[01:22] <mattspry> ejer: thanks
[01:22] <ejer> amenado: i don't think he needs to get into that really...
[01:22] <byteme_> I'm trying to install 8.04 on an HP pre'SORRY'o and I get a kernel panic io aspi timer error
[01:22] <lazertek_> amenado: ok
[01:23] <byteme_> can  i get around that?
[01:23] <byteme_> oh sorry.............  Hi all!    :o)
[01:23] <Jean2jean> hello i search a packages for Dillo browser in Damn Small (enhanced, supports SSL, tabs and frames!) for ubuntu, it's possible ?
[01:23] <MrKennie> amenado: why is that needed? He jsut needs to restart sshd and logout to end that last ssh session.
[01:23] <Kane1> that shit is way too long
[01:23] <ejer> byteme_: you could try adding acpi=off to boot options
[01:24] <Kane1> i have 3 hours after work to do something until i have to go to sleep and go back to work, im not gonna read a 4 hour fucking guide, goddamnit
[01:24] <ejer> dillo is in repos Jean2jean
[01:24] <Pici> Kane1: That language is uncalled for here.
[01:24] <Jean2jean> ejer, dillo modified like too damn small linux ?
[01:24] <ejer> Kane1: networking is fun huh?
[01:24] <byteme_> I did that at the prompt and then Igot....... "io-apic timer doent work!"
[01:24] <ejer> Jean2jean: oh sorry, doubt it.. worth trying tho?
[01:24] <amenado> MrKennie-> can you do a lil experiment?  login using ssh, then reset the sshd at remote and see if your connection is still enabled..
[01:25] <ejer> amenado: he told him to logout and back in
[01:25] <Pici> Jean2jean: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:25] <mateo0802> how can i use ubuntu to change passwords on normal OS?
[01:25] <MrKennie> amenado: I've done it several times. It's designed so it doesn't kill any existing sessions until they have ended.
[01:25] <Jean2jean> Pici,  yeah, but, dillo in packages ubuntu isn't modified... It's a basic dillo
[01:26] <Stormx2> mateo0802: System > Administration > Users?
[01:26] <MrKennie> amenado: been like been like that for a few years now iirc
[01:26] <byteme_> I cant find anything in the forms
[01:26] <w0ls0n> hell all
[01:26] <w0ls0n> ack
[01:26] <w0ls0n> hello all
[01:26] <w0ls0n> any sed experts around?
[01:26] <Stormx2> hi w0ls0n
[01:27] <amenado> MrKennie-> right, so it does not kill any existing session
[01:27] <ejer> can try w0ls0n can't hurt to ask
[01:27] <amenado> and re-reads the config file
[01:27] <byteme_> I'm trying to install 8.04 on an HP pre'SORRY'o and I get a kernel panic io aspi timer error
[01:27] <byteme_> can  i get around that?
[01:28] <w0ls0n> if I put an awk statment in a script, it doesn't seem to work correcty. If I run it manually it works fine.
[01:28] <mateo0802> ﻿Stormx2: i do system > admin > users, but the users on vista dont show up
[01:28] <w0ls0n> awk 'BEGIN {ident="#yahoo.com";startt="Start";endt="End";printing="1";} { if ( $1 == ident ) if ($2 == startt ) { printing=0; } if ( $1 == ident ) if ($2 ==endt ) { printing=1; next;} if ( printing == 1 ) print; }' ~wolson/bin/updateawstat
[01:28] <w0ls0n>  it does the output without yahoo.com in it
[01:28] <w0ls0n> but if I put it in a script as one line with a variable, it doesn't work
[01:28] <Stormx2> mateo0802: Why would they?
[01:28] <w0ls0n> awk 'BEGIN {ident="#$DOMAINNAME";startt="Start";endt="End";printing="1";} { if ( $1 == ident ) if ($2 == startt ) { printing=0; } if ( $1 == ident ) if ($2 ==endt ) { printing=1; next;} if ( printing == 1 ) print; }' ~wolson/bin/updateawstats >> ~wolson/bin/updateawstats_new
[01:28] <mateo0802> ﻿Stormx2: i need to change a password on the vista, i forgot that one
[01:29] <ejer> first off that is awk not sed ;)
[01:29] <Stormx2> mateo0802, so why are you asking in #ubuntu?
[01:29] <Stormx2> mateo0802, try
[01:29] <Stormx2> ##windows
[01:29] <Stormx2> (sorry, didn't mean to linebreak)
[01:29] <SubOne> Ok, so I set it to "UTC=no" and now hwclock and date and the LED clock all show the correect time. However now the gnomepanel time is incorrect by +6 hours...
[01:29] <weirdbro> his friend told him to fix it with ubuntu
[01:29] <mateo0802> okay
[01:29] <Pici> w0ls0n: You may want to try asking in #awk and #bash as well, they're very good at these sorts of questions.
[01:30] <Nillerz> Hey, #gentoo told me to come over here
[01:30] <w0ls0n> ejer oops :-P
[01:30] <ejer> w0ls0n: too much for here, try the aforementioned chans
[01:30] <SubOne> ejer: so everything is set right but the gnome-panel, what do you suggest?
[01:30] <ejer> SubOne: adjust timezone in gnome now
[01:30] <Nillerz> If it's not terribly inconvenient, I'd like to ask a question or two
[01:31] <Pici> Just ask ;)
[01:31] <SubOne> So I should set it to something other than American/Denver?
[01:31] <Nillerz> Okay, I want to install a form of linux with a desktop environment.
[01:31]  * FlipFalcon hopes this works
[01:31] <ejer> SubOne: just a suggestion... maybe it is elsewhere the issue, unless of course that is not the right timezone ;)
[01:31] <Stormx2> Nillerz, how about ubuntu? :O
[01:31] <Nillerz> I want it to not take 36 hours like the gentoo folk said their OS would
[01:31] <SubOne> ejer: well NTP is also enabled...
[01:31] <Stormx2> I wouldn't install gentoo as your first linux os :)
[01:32] <weirdbro> Nillerz, there's no chance of that happening with ubuntu
[01:32] <ejer> Nillerz: takes less than an hour for most ubuntu installs
[01:32] <jisatsu> any idea why my hdd is showing as 100% full when it's not?
[01:32] <weirdbro> I partitioned and installed in 30-45 minutes
[01:32] <SubOne> oddly... when i go into time settings the time is set correctly, but not the time displayed on the panel...
[01:32] <Nillerz> That's good, but another problem, I downloaded and burned ubuntu twice, neither time worked right
[01:32] <Stormx2> It's not even involving. You just enter in the details and let it run.
[01:32] <Stormx2> Nillerz: Oh? What was the problem?
[01:32] <ejer> subone, adjust it to be correct?
[01:33] <SubOne> ejer... but it is correct
[01:33] <ejer> ah
[01:33] <Nillerz> The first CD got to the orange bouncing box, then the orange stretching box, then it said FAIL in red letters uptop
[01:33] <ejer> then we are done?
[01:33] <SubOne> ejer: yet incorrect.
[01:33] <ejer> heh
[01:33] <SubOne> ejer: everything on the system now shows the correct time except what is shown on the panel
[01:34] <Nillerz> the second CD froze after choosing an option from the main splash
[01:34] <weirdbro> Nillerz: what hardware do you have, what file did you burn?
[01:34] <Nillerz> I have a Compaq Presario 1.8 ghz celeron with 380 mb ram, intel motherboard, 40 gig hard drive,
[01:35] <puritycontrol> nillerz you can get them to ship you a cd at https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[01:36] <weirdbro> Thats not likely the problem, puritycontrol
[01:36] <weirdbro> unless his burner can't burn a disk that isn't corrupt
[01:36] <puritycontrol> then you know its not an issue with cd burning
[01:36] <Nillerz> I'd rather not bother them like that, I mean, there's no guarantee I'll keep using it
[01:36] <ejer> SubOne: sounds like same problem, not sure where to fix it tho
[01:36] <w0ls0n> and awk experts around? http://pastebin.com/m6d29ec8f
[01:36] <SubOne> i am utterly without a clue...
[01:36] <weirdbro> its not a bother, but I doubt thats the problem
[01:36] <FlipFalcon> whats the basic wifi app for linux to connect and scan wifi connections
[01:36] <weirdbro> Nillerz, whats the name of the .iso file you burned?
[01:37] <FlipFalcon> any peeps wanna LMK
[01:37] <SubOne> ejer: yes but hwclock, date, the led, and even gnome time and date settings dialog shows the correct time... only the clock shown on the panel itself it +6 hours...
[01:37] <w0ls0n> whats LMK?
[01:37] <FlipFalcon> let me know
[01:38] <ejer> SubOne: meaning timezone in gnome is wrong/utc just like last problem
[01:38] <w0ls0n> haha
[01:38] <w0ls0n> nice
[01:38] <onerice> Anyone willing to help me with my graphics drivers/screen resolution? Can't choose the right resolution...
[01:38] <ejer> FlipFalcon: nm-applet, it is beside clock in ubuntu
[01:38] <SubOne> ejer: even the timestamps posted here in the channel are correct rofl
[01:39] <FlipFalcon> so it scans in real time and shows available networks?
[01:39] <Filthy-God> Man...
[01:39] <Filthy-God> I can't stand hackers... they just ramble...
[01:39] <ejer> SubOne: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4657127 second to last post ?
[01:39] <Filthy-God> literally insane
[01:39] <ejer> FlipFalcon: yup
[01:40] <puritycontrol> w0ls0n try the script with yahoo hard coded rather than using a variable
[01:40] <ShinjinAkage> I was writing some backup script and most of it works except the mounting. It says permission denied but when I run sudo BackupScript (the script is in my bin folder) it says command sudo: BackupScript not found.
[01:40] <ejer> ShinjinAkage: put it in /usr/local/bin and chmod +x it
[01:41] <FlipFalcon> how do i get my internal sd card adapter working
[01:41] <FlipFalcon> this laptop has an internal sd card reader
[01:41] <w0ls0n> puritycontrol it works fine hardcoded
[01:41] <w0ls0n> don't people fucking read? jesus
[01:41] <Nillerz> I can't find the iso for ubuntu.... hrmm.
[01:41] <Nillerz> I think I deleted it
[01:41] <ejer> FlipFalcon: should just pop up a window when you insert a card
[01:41] <Pici> w0ls0n: Please watch your language in this channel. Thank you.
[01:42] <sanzanric> flipfalcon, is it a sd/mmc ms/pro reader?
[01:42] <ejer> w0ls0n: u r asking in wrong place
[01:42] <FlipFalcon> sd/mmc
[01:42] <puritycontrol> w0ls0n then its a problem with your variable not the awk command itsel
[01:42] <FlipFalcon> its built into the laptop
[01:42] <SubOne> ejer: I do not appear to have that path, and looking around i see a clock entry but nothing that looks like UTC or timezone
[01:42] <sanzanric> flipfalcon, is it a dell by any chance?
[01:42] <w0ls0n> OMFG
[01:43] <FlipFalcon> nope toshiba
[01:43] <sanzanric> u! | ejer
[01:43] <Nillerz> Can you use the server edition of Ubuntu as a desktop os?
[01:43] <ejer> SubOne: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/39387 ?
[01:44] <ejer> sanzanric: ?
[01:44] <FlipFalcon> could anybody help with the old sd card adapter
[01:44] <ejer> Nillerz: you _can_ but why would ya
[01:44] <Nillerz> Because I want a desctop that has PHP, SQL, and apache
[01:45] <ejer> Nillerz: you just install em
[01:45] <entropy51423> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could give me a quick script on how to start blender on a new x session in Gnome. I would at least like to be pointed in the right direction.
[01:45] <ejer> Nillerz: all server packages are available to desktop users
[01:45] <sanzanric> ejer: you are not suppose to use internet speak like "u" and "r"
[01:45] <SubOne> ejer: that did nothing
[01:45] <ejer> whatever sanzanric
[01:45] <Nillerz> okay, I'll take that route
[01:45] <FlipFalcon> sanzanric???
[01:45] <SubOne> ejer: yes it appears the panel clock is still showing UTC for some reason
[01:46] <sanzanric> ejer: you asked.
[01:46] <ejer> SubOne: I am out of ideas man :)
[01:46] <evil_tech> is it possible to install ubuntu on an 8gb CF to Express Card adapter?
[01:46] <ejer> sanzanric: cause you mistyped the command
[01:46] <entropy51423> Does anyone know how to start a program in a new x session?
[01:46] <ejer> evil_tech: if you add memory card somewhere in there
[01:47] <sanzanric> FlipFalcon:  card reader support is depend on what kernel your using. What is your kernel?
[01:47] <ejer> evil_tech: boot livecd and see if drive is detected
[01:47] <sanzanric> ejer: so what is the proper command?
[01:47] <SubOne> ejer: ty i am at least much closer
[01:47] <weirdbro> Nillerz: Its easy to install those later, you want desktop
[01:47] <ejer> !u
[01:47] <FlipFalcon> i got the new ubuntu on monday
[01:47] <SubOne> ejer: seesm like its a known bug in gutsy that was solved but not fixed and now the solution doesnt work
[01:48] <ejer> entropy51423: you can switch user and start new session.. what do u want to do exactly
[01:48] <FlipFalcon> the alternare cd what kennel is that on
[01:48] <evil_tech> ejer: i havent bought the hardware yet. going to do that and see if it shows up.
[01:48] <ejer> SubOne: did you try removing and readding clock
[01:48] <evil_tech> yay triple boot ubuntu xp and vista
[01:48] <FlipFalcon> sanzanric: it shows in lspci
[01:48] <entropy51423> ejer: sorry, I had to go herd our turkey
[01:49] <entropy51423> ejer: I want to start Blender in a new X session
[01:49] <histo> Scared to reboot now. I was trying to install a different 80211 stack and its not going well
[01:49] <entropy51423> It goes into full screen and I wanted to switch between that and the tutorial I was reading
[01:49] <FlipFalcon> sanzanric???
[01:50] <ejer> entropy51423: any reason for a new x session? maybe a new desktop (click desktop switcher bottom right of screen)
[01:50] <entropy51423> ejer: answered above
[01:50] <ejer> look at end of my answer entropy51423
[01:50] <alphaman> Anyone installed gship?
[01:50] <FlipFalcon> hello??
[01:50] <alphaman> gshop*
[01:51] <entropy51423> It goes into full screen and doesn't show any of the panels
[01:51] <ejer> entropy51423: alt-tab will switch apps
[01:51] <dislo3> hey i need ssh access on my machine how do i do that
[01:51] <SubOne> ejer: o.O
[01:51] <SubOne> ejer: that worked...
[01:51] <alphaman> apt-get install openssh-server
[01:51] <ejer> :)
[01:51] <ejer> dislo3: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[01:52] <FlipFalcon> anybody here able to help with my sd adapter
[01:52] <ejer> SubOne: it is all cause you chose utc in install
[01:52] <entropy51423> Okay, that might work, but I would still like to know how to start a new X but that can be a later venture. Thanks
[01:52] <alphaman> anyone know how to install gshop
[01:52] <SubOne> ejer: well not i, i didnt install, but you are indeed wise
[01:52] <ejer> entropy51423: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/12/howto-setup-multiple-nested-x-sessions.html
[01:53] <ejer> there are lots of ways entropy51423
[01:53] <SubOne> ejer: thanx for helping me fix something that has been haunting me since i borrowed this laptop
[01:53] <entropy51423> alphaman: I would check Synaptic, add remove program, type in the name of the app in the terminal
[01:53] <HappyHater> entropy51423, or just enable new login in the system tools menu
[01:53] <ejer> np SubOne glad to help
[01:53] <FlipFalcon> can someone help a guy out my sd reader don't work
[01:53] <SubOne> THREE CHEERS
[01:53] <SubOne> YAY WOOT ROFL
[01:54] <krazy-h_> Goodnight !!!!!!!
[01:54] <ejer> FlipFalcon: i would google the name of your laptop model and ubuntu sd card... what is the problem exactly
[01:54] <alphaman> ﻿entropy51423 no programs
[01:55] <FlipFalcon> i put the sd card in the adapter and it don't work at all
[01:55] <ejer> FlipFalcon: what is exact make and model
[01:55] <ejer> of laptop
[01:55] <newbe1> need a game joystick controller   any ideas   thanks
[01:56] <FlipFalcon> toshiba portege 3500
[01:56] <DPic> I have done a fresh install of ubuntu 8.04.1 twice and after each one i'm able to boot to ubuntu fine the first time but the next time i try to log in (and every time after that) i get an error: "Users $Home/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions. Users $Home directory must be owned by user and not writable by others." but the permissions are set cor
[01:56] <Nillerz> KDE or Gnome? QUICK!
[01:57] <FlipFalcon> it detects in when i do an lspci but it don't work at all
[01:57] <FlipFalcon> works fine in windoze
[01:57] <rblst> ShinjinAkage: sudo ./BackupScript, if the script is in the current directory
[01:57] <ejer> FlipFalcon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ToshibaPortege3500?highlight=(portege) apparently does not work currently
[01:58] <Sylph-DS_> I've got XChat-gnome 0.18 running on xUbuntu, and I want to get a more 'normal' style user-list (who's in the channel) to the right of my chatwindow. I now have a little box saying "10 users" on the left-bottom. I haven't managed to change it in the settings. Could anybody help me?
[01:58] <ejer> DPic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=371052 post #8?
[01:58] <Flannel> Sylph-DS_: Get rid of xchat-gnome, install xchat instead
[01:58] <Sylph-DS_> Eh.. ok..
[01:59] <Sylph-DS_> Is there such a big difference between xchat-gnome and xchat?
[01:59] <Yondering> Sylph-DS_, sudo aptitude remove xchat-gnome, then sudo aptitude install xchat.
[01:59] <Sylph-DS_> is xchat-gnome like a lite version or something?
[01:59] <glitsj16> alphaman: you need gimpshop ? if so, there's a .deb at the official site --> http://www.gimpshop.com/download.shtml (look for the debian package)
[01:59] <Yondering> xchat-gnome is xchat with gnome enhancements.  if you're using xubuntu anyway, it'll be fine, and behave the way you want.
[02:00] <Sylph-DS_> Well. Ok. Thanks. I'll be back in a bit, I guess.
[02:00] <luke> Hey all, new user here, could use some help with a problem...
[02:00] <ejer> ask luke
[02:00] <Nillerz> Is tehre an ubuntu iso with the fluxbox desktop environment built in?
[02:00] <ejer> !fluxbuntu
[02:01] <alphaman> gimpshop
[02:01] <FlipFalcon> ejer: it only says mmc i mainly use sd cards but it won't work
[02:01] <DPic> ejer: i'll give that a try but doesn't the third command there undo what is done in that first commend?
[02:01] <alphaman> is there a way to turn rpm in to deb
[02:02] <DPic> ejer: i've actually already tried the first two, i don't think i want to chmod my entire homefolder
[02:02] <soldats> alphaman: i wouldnt suggest it
[02:02] <ejer> DPic: hmm yes :)
[02:02] <DPic> my permissiosn are correct, ut theerror says they aren't
[02:02] <DPic> and this is a fresh install
[02:02] <ejer> first two should do it DPic
[02:02] <DPic> i have done the first two
[02:02] <glitsj16> alphaman: sorry for the confusion .. i had never heard of an app called gshop .. my bad
[02:03] <ejer> file exists DPic?
[02:03] <DPic> not that they changed anything because they were already right
[02:03] <DPic> yeah the file exists
[02:03] <luke> Installed Linux the other week and I was sharing just fine till a couple of days ago when I went back to Places menu --> Network...
[02:03] <luke> and it gave me an error.....
[02:03] <luke> "Nautilus cannot handle network: locations."
[02:03] <luke> I did not change anything...i do not believe...
[02:03] <luke> although I did check the "guest" box of a file I was sharing previously
[02:03] <DPic> and the contents are right
[02:03] <FloodBot2> luke: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:03] <ejer> DPic: does it boot you out or just warn
[02:03] <DPic> just awarn
[02:03] <DPic> warn*
[02:03] <FlipFalcon> can anybody help me with my sd card reader it shows up in lspci but i can't get it to work
[02:04] <FlipFalcon> ANYBODY
[02:05] <luke> sorry for the flood. did not mean to do that...
[02:05] <CShadowRun> I have a webcam with a "Take picture" button, is there any way to make the take picture button work? (The webcam works in ubuntu, and in windows when i press the take picture button, it opens up amcap and takes a still picture)
[02:05] <luke> does anyone know anything about the error I recieved? Please message me if you do
[02:05] <ejer> DPic: The .dmrc file permissions should be 644 not 700. The permissions for your home folder should be 700.  https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/7296
[02:05] <noize> question: just did an upgrade and on reboot i keep droping to busybox. tells me to check /proc/cmdline well it has the wrong drive listed as root. tried to use sed to change it and tells me no temp file. is there a quickie for this?
[02:06] <DPic> ejer: so the commands were in the wrong order. either way--- my permissions are right
[02:06] <ejer> 700 on /home/you ? DPic
[02:06] <NemesisD> can someone please tell me how to configure ubuntu to play from multiple audio sources at once? I'm at my wits end here and none of the programs that use audio seem to want to share
[02:06] <Kattman> I need to add Xp to Grub menu.list, Computer boots to hdb1 (ubuntu) and Xp is on hda1 !
[02:06] <ejer> DPic: becuz i have seen this, it is a permissions issue
[02:07] <DPic> okay let me try those commands in the right order and let you know if that fixes it
[02:07] <cirkit|laptop> I believe this is a bug with Firefox crashing on random sites loading their content. What I did was move out my current ~/.mozilla and backed it up so I start with new Firefox configuration files - Firefox was still crashing. I was able to retrieve some output from the crash (both new ~/.mozilla and old were the same error) ... has anyone seen this error before? Could it possibly be a bug? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/32410/
[02:07] <ejer> DPic: not chmod -R remember
[02:08] <glitsj16> NemesisD: are you running pulseaudio ?
[02:08] <newbe1> need a game joystick controller   any ideas   thanks
[02:08] <ejer> cirkit|laptop: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/epiphany-browser/+bug/240727
[02:08] <NemesisD> glitsj16, i have no idea anymore but i think im running alsa or esd
[02:09] <rpj8> newbe1: There are plenty of working out-of-the-box joysticks out there
[02:09] <DPic> ejer: not chmor -R? i thought i was supposed to run chmod -R 700 /home/me and then run sudo chmod 644 /home/ricardimo/.dmrc
[02:09] <luke> Again if anyone can help with the error I am getting about my computer not being able to get onto the network. Getting "Nautilus cannot handle network: locations"
[02:09] <glitsj16> NemesisD: okay, not familiar enough with ALSA to help out, it uses DMix i believe to avchieve mutli-app output
[02:09] <dynoll3> hi
[02:09] <newbe1> must have a old one
[02:09] <dynoll3> i have a question
[02:10] <aaron_> hey all, have a bit of a problem with nautilus network lookups
[02:10] <ejer> DPic: just chmod 700 /home/you
[02:10] <DPic> ok
[02:10] <ejer> Kattman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How_to_dual-boot_Ubuntu_and_XP_after_installing_them_separately_on_two_HDs?highlight=(menu\.lst)|(xp)
[02:10] <aaron_> it seems to be a bit of a repeat of a former bug #185756, but gvfs is completely updated
[02:10] <glitsj16> NemesisD: if you want to give pulseaudio a try, look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4928900 for a nice (and working) howto ..
[02:11] <falameufilho> hello all. anyone know of a good tutorial of how to install ubuntu inside windows XP using VMWare?
[02:11] <Johnny> is there a way to get a desktop to use the internet from a laptops wireless card?
[02:11] <songq> how do i go to google(Ireland) site
[02:11] <newbe1> rpj8  do i just search google for one
[02:11] <chris_wowfreak> anyone know any good places to find information on script programming?
[02:11] <NemesisD> i honestly don't even care what audio system i'm using, but i know i've tried like 15 different tutorials that don't work :(
[02:11] <ejer> Johnny: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html but it is not too easy...
[02:12] <ejer> songq: http://www.google.ca/search?q=google+ireland
[02:12] <glitsj16> NemesisD: i understand, can be a pain .. i can only vouch that the instructions on that page do work, nicely even
[02:12] <alphaman> ﻿anyone know how to install gshop
[02:12] <primitive> just installed intrepid and i am having some issues with my display flickering everytime i launch an application
[02:12] <dynoll3> hey how we can resize the connextion windows^
[02:12] <rpj8> newbe1: That's generally a good place to start :)
[02:13] <LibertyShadow> primitive, #ubuntu+1
[02:13] <aaron_> so, does anyone have any insight to the nautilus bug I'm seeing?
[02:13] <ejer> alphaman: gshop does not look like it is an active project, why do u want it
[02:13] <newbe1> rpj8:   ok cool
[02:13] <FlipFalcon> i need some help here how do i get my sd card reader to work
[02:13] <newbe1> thanks
[02:13] <songq> ejer, songq
[02:13] <alphaman> its a POS
[02:13] <glitsj16> chris_wowfreak: there's a package called abs-guide in the regular repositories, which gives you 'The Advanced Bash Scripting Guide'
[02:14] <alphaman> ejer, got another?
[02:14] <xhuangzi> Why would I have good video with my webcam in Camorama but not Skype?
[02:14] <NemesisD> glitsj16, already got a problem with that guide, libasound2-dev depends libasound2 (=1.0.15-3ubuntu4) but 1.0.16-2ubuntu1 is to be installed
[02:14] <FlipFalcon> anybody here
[02:14] <chezerian> yes
[02:14] <rpj8> FlipFalcon: Just ask your question, man
[02:14] <ejer> alphaman: i don't even see any files released
[02:14] <dynoll3> hey how we can resize the connextion windows?
[02:14] <histo> How can I reload ieee80211 kernel modules for my .19 kernel and my ipw2200 driver as well.
[02:14] <alphaman> ejer, i have the tgz
[02:15] <histo>  Both got blown out and I have no internet under that kernel.
[02:15] <ejer> alphaman: read the README?
[02:15] <alphaman> nothing in it
[02:15] <cl0s_> hey.. how do I setup a virtual IP (that can be seen by other computers on the network) for a virtual machine on  my pc?
[02:15] <legend2440> falameufilho: http://cmsproducer.com/Ubuntu-Linux-Windows-VMware-Server
[02:15] <Nillerz> I think I will be going with Fluxbuntu. Is there a seperate IRC channel for it?
[02:15] <ejer> yer on yer own alphaman
[02:15] <histo> Nillerz: xubuntu
[02:15] <rpj8> Nillerz: #fluxbuntu I believe
[02:15] <alphaman> ejer, what open source POS whould you recomend
[02:15] <rblst> histo: 'man rmmod' and 'man modprobe'
[02:15] <dynoll3> > hey how we can resize the connextion windows?
[02:15] <rpj8> histo: That's for Xubuntu.
[02:16] <cl0s_> im reading some how-to's but I don't fully understand it. i understand the port forwarding but I want the virtual machine to have its own network IP... anybody done this yet?
[02:16] <Cheiron>   parse error on input `}'
[02:16] <Nillerz> I've found it , thanks.
[02:16] <histo> rblst: no the modules are messed up.
[02:16] <falameufilho> legend2440, that's good stuff. thanks!
[02:16] <dpic> ejer: success!
[02:16] <ejer> alphaman: off the top of my head... none? how many people would know about that here? :) I would google 'open source pos'
[02:16] <Balian_> #ubuntu-pl
[02:16] <glitsj16> NemesisD: as long as you install the same version for libasound2 and libasound2-dev it should be okay
[02:16] <alphaman> ben there done that
[02:16] <ejer> dpic: sweet
[02:16] <legend2440> falameufilho: your welcome
[02:16] <histo> rblst: I was trying to install patched modules and it just went all wrong. Now I need the ubuntu ones backk and they are gone.
[02:17] <ejer> alphaman: this is def not the right channel, has nothing to do with ubuntu
[02:17] <xhuangzi> Why would I have good video with my webcam in Camorama but not Skype?
[02:17] <NemesisD> glitsj16, how do i do that in the package manager though, i'm only seeing one libasound2 and one libasound2-dev
[02:17] <dynoll3> hey someone could help me?
[02:17] <amenado> cl0s_-> which vm you have running?
[02:17] <cl0s_> QEMU..
[02:17] <glitsj16> NemesisD: hold on, checking something
[02:18] <cl0s_> using Virtual Machine Manager
[02:18] <Yach1> I have a really awkward question, but I don't know where else I can get answers from. I'm trying to install Mac OS X on a Powerbook G4 that's running Ubuntu 8.04, and it keeps telling me it's unable to mount the install disc volume. Is there anything I can do to remedy this?
[02:18] <histo> How can I install the ubuntu kernel modules for ieee80211 and ipw2200? I lost them trying to patch.
[02:18] <dynoll3> > hey how we can resize the connextion windows?
[02:18] <Cheiron>   parse error on input `}'
[02:18] <amenado> cl0s_-> i dont know about qemu but if it was virtualbox or vmware, or xen..the localized network is already there
[02:18] <ejer> dynoll3: trhat makes no sense
[02:18] <dynoll3> why?
[02:19] <ejer> what is a connextion windows?
[02:19] <cl0s_> doh! didnt know whether to go with xen or qemu.. guess i made the wrong decision..
[02:19] <rpj8> dynoll3: We dont' know what a connextion window is.
[02:19] <cl0s_> lol.. thanks..
[02:19] <amenado> dynoll3-> because it does not make sense to us :)
[02:19] <dynoll3> the place where we write account + password
[02:19] <rpj8> dynoll3: That's even more vague, friend.
[02:19] <dynoll3> where we log on
[02:20] <rpj8> Oh, the gdm?
[02:20] <ejer> dynoll3: you want bigger text? easier to see?
[02:20] <dynoll3> no i see only the upper right corner
[02:20] <rblst> histo: well, then, one solution i can think of is that you compile them from source
[02:20] <dynoll3> i want to see all
[02:20] <NemesisD> glitsj16, should i need to reboot after this tutorial?
[02:20] <Yach1> I have a really awkward question, but I don't know where else I can get answers from. I'm trying to install Mac OS X on a Powerbook G4 that's running Ubuntu 8.04, and it keeps telling me it's unable to mount the install disc volume. Is there anything I can do to remedy this?
[02:21] <Sp0tter> has anyone tried running ubuntu from an SD card on a  laptop?
[02:21] <rpj8> Yach1: Are you running off the live disc right now?
[02:21] <ejer> Sp0tter: you are describing eeepc for instance ;)
[02:21] <Yach1> i'm running on Ubuntu 8.04 which is installed on the HD of the PowerBook
[02:21] <ejer> dynoll3: may help, but complicated https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:21] <alexk0> is it possible to chmod a file that you don't own? there's a file that i have group rwx access to and i want to give it r-x for everyone
[02:21] <glitsj16> NemesisD: no not needed, just restart the pulseaudio daemon, either via pulseaudio -D or sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart (if your pulseaudio is configured for system-wide support
[02:21] <ice101> so i have no idea how to fix my own problems in ubuntu and i want to learn how to really use linux but i have no idea where to start and there's soooo much
[02:21] <Sp0tter> ejer, I'm going to try it with my Dell  Latitudem but yea people do it with the EEE :)
[02:21] <dynoll3> ok
[02:22] <Yach1> rpj8: so no, not live
[02:22] <ice101> can someone suggest something
[02:22] <Sp0tter> ejer, does it work well?
[02:22] <dynoll3> ejer ty ill check this out
[02:22] <rpj8> Yach1: Ah ok. Cool. So what are you doing exactly?
[02:22] <ice101> how do i really learn to use linux
[02:22] <rpj8> ice101: Use it, mostly.
[02:22] <NemesisD> glitsj16, different audio apps still seem to be stepping on eachother :/
[02:22] <ejer> ice101: https://help.ubuntu.com/
[02:22] <cl0s_> Sp0tter: as long as u can setup to boot from it from the bios should be fine.. just going to be a little slower reading and writing from the SD than it would from a HD.. i assume..
[02:22] <rpj8> ice101: Read some bash tutorials, for instance.
[02:22] <ice101> rpj8: great but i have no idea how to solve any of my problems
[02:23] <ice101> i end up always coming here
[02:23] <Yach1> rpj8: well, i've tried what i already know, which is to reboot the laptop while holding the "C" key, and that only brought up an error screen, i've also tried opening the volume labeled "Max OS X Install Disc" and that also brings up an error
[02:23] <ejer> NemesisD: some apps simply cannot do it, flash is one
[02:23] <powertool08> Anyone know which directory pidgin has its sounds in?
[02:23] <Sp0tter> cl0s_, oh it can def boot from it i'm sure
[02:23] <glitsj16> NemesisD: that is possible, take a look at http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup on how to proceed with specific apps
[02:23] <NemesisD> ejer, in this situation it was 2 instances of mplayer
[02:23] <Sp0tter> cl0s_, I was thinking a better option might be to use virtualbox, and store the VM on the flash card
[02:23] <rpj8> ice101: Google is a wonderful place. Once you solve your problem, you should research what you had to do to resolve your problem
[02:23] <rpj8> ice101: We ALL started out where you are now. I did, too.
[02:23] <ice101> rpj8: sure but there's gotta be a more efficient way
[02:23] <rpj8> ice101: I am still not a n expert, but I have gained the knowledge of searching for my answers and using the system
[02:24] <monkeyBox> Does anyone know of a software keylogger program that will work with usb keyboards?
[02:24] <cl0s_> Sp0tter: or best option.. format the entire laptop with ubuntu :)
[02:24] <glitsj16> NemesisD: how did you solve the libasound2 issue ?
[02:24] <rpj8> ice101: Nope. man pages and google searching
[02:24] <NemesisD> glitsj16, i didn't
[02:24] <cl0s_> but that would def work also..
[02:24] <ice101> rpj8: i mean we don't learn to program problem by problem
[02:24] <ice101> rpj8: i don't see why this is different
[02:24] <pini> ciao a tutti
[02:24] <ejer> read the ubuntu guide it will tell u nearly everything you need, and if not, wiki
[02:24] <rpj8> ice101: Read a bash tutorial if youw ant to learnt he basics
[02:24] <NemesisD> i don't know how i'd install the dev package
[02:24] <rpj8> ice101: I don't know what to tell you, really. Read a bash tutorial or linux basics tutorial
[02:24] <moreau> anyone know a program that can play .mp4 movies?  neither VLC nor the gnome Mplayer will work (vlc wont show the video, and Mplayer says 'cant determine the type of stream'
[02:24] <aaron_> does anyone in here know what is up with the nautilus problem, do I have to apply a SVN patch to it and recompile, or is there a package that I can update to resolve the network:/// issue?
[02:25] <rpj8> ice101: You can't learn something if you don't know what it is you WANT to learn
[02:25] <Sp0tter> cl0s_, that si the worst i have ever heard
[02:25] <ice101> rpj8: most of that stuff i know by now
[02:25] <Sp0tter> cl0s_ i have to use tons of windows tools for school
[02:25] <Yach1> rpj8: well, i've tried what i already know, which is to reboot the laptop while holding the "C" key, and that only brought up an error screen, i've also tried opening the volume labeled "Max OS X Install Disc" and that also brings up an error
[02:25] <rpj8> Yach1: You're trying to reinstall the mac OS?
[02:25] <Yach1> yes
[02:25] <ejer> Yach1: this is an osx support question really
[02:25] <glitsj16> NemesisD: okay, you can install both packages mentioned from http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid, search for those there
[02:25] <aaron_> so, nobody knows what's up with my nautilus issue?
[02:25] <Yach1> rpj8: hmm, you think so?
[02:25] <rpj8> ice101: Well then why are you here? Get out there and test drive stuff until you break your computer.
[02:25] <moreau> !mp4
[02:25] <Yach1> ejer: you think so?
[02:26] <rpj8> Yach1: Well Hell, I didn't know what you wanted to do.
[02:26] <ejer> sorry aaron_
[02:26] <ice101> rpj8: i'm going to do this http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2008/07/30/minimalist-linux-to-confuse-the-masses/
[02:26] <ice101> and see where it gets me
[02:26] <ejer> Yach1: you are trying to install osx? i'd say so :)
[02:26] <ice101> i'm sure i'll be back with problems very soon
[02:26] <Yach1> ejer: yes, that is indeed what im trying to do
[02:26] <NemesisD> glitsj16, but im running hardy
[02:26] <rpj8> ice101: Do whatever you want. It's all about learning.
[02:26] <ejer> Yach1: this is #ubuntu
[02:26] <chezerian> Ive created a back up of my system using this how to (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34629) and im trying to burn it to a DVD using cd/dvd creator but everytime i do that i get an error message "There was an error writing to the disc:
[02:26] <chezerian> Unhandled error, aborting".
[02:26] <rpj8> Yach1: We can't help you here if you want to install a different OS.
[02:27] <Yach1> rpj8: fair enough
[02:27] <planet_x> having a problem.. have windows XP installed trying to dual boot with Linux and resize the partitions (15 gigs windows XP and 25 gigs linux) keeps saying error occured when writing to storage device and wont resize.. any help appreciated
[02:27] <nickrud> ice101  linuxfromscratch.org.  Seriously, if you google everything you do here as you go along, and not go to the next step till you understand the current, you will learn much very quickly
[02:27] <rpj8> Yach1: :) Good luck.
[02:27] <Yach1> rpj8: thank you
[02:27] <Innopeor> How i can install kde 4.1 in Gutsy?
[02:27] <nickrud> !kde4 | Innopeor
[02:27] <cl0s_> Sp0tter: i know, depends on why you kep windows.. i cant vpn into work because the client for it only works on windows.. so i jus dont vpn into work anymore until -- got the boss going at the network admins because they dont want to use an open solution and im the web programer.. might not work the same for school though
[02:27] <glitsj16> NemesisD: yes i've checked dependencies, those only rely on libc6 which is >=2.4 in hardy so that's covered
[02:27] <cl0s_> lol
[02:28] <NemesisD> sweeeet
[02:28] <moreau> anyone know a program that can play .mp4 movies??
[02:28] <nickrud> moreau all of them?
[02:28] <Sp0tter> cl0s_ heh yea , doesn't work the same :)
[02:28] <ejer> moreau: all
[02:28] <ice101> nickrud: thank you
[02:28] <Innopeor> kde 4.1 in Gutsy, not in Hardy!
[02:28] <glitsj16> NemesisD: they also might be in hardy-proposed or backports for hardy, didn't check that, might be another option
[02:28] <cl0s_> moreau: u just need to install the codec...
[02:28] <nickrud> Innopeor ah. Well, i'd ask in #ubuntu-kde4
[02:28] <rblst> moreau: try MPlayer
[02:29] <ejer> Innopeor: http://kubuntulove.wordpress.com/2008/02/09/howto-kde41-on-kubuntu-gutsy/ ?
[02:29] <dynoll3> ejer?
[02:29] <ice101> if i went from ubuntu 8.04 to the latest free bsd distro would i see any speed differences?
[02:29] <cl0s_> moreau: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras ... or search for ubuntu-restricted-extras in synaptic ..
[02:29] <Sp0tter> cl0s_, so do you think a virtualbox of ubuntu desktop woudl run better from an SD card than from the same hard disk the host is running on?
[02:29] <rpj8> ice101: Uh.
[02:29] <ejer> yes dynoll3
[02:29] <Innopeor> ejer, is not 4.1 looks
[02:29] <histo> How can I build modules against the .19 kernel config while i'm in the .18 kernel?
[02:29] <BobPenguin> Hello there. This is an old one, but I can't not get it solved. How do I get audacity to playback sound on ubuntustudio 8.04? I read this thread, but it was useless: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=841283
[02:29] <rpj8> ice101: It's all relative. If you install everything Ubuntu has installed by default, then probably not. Some BSD guys will tell you otherwise.
[02:29] <Innopeor> nickrud, ubuntu-kde4 is dead
[02:29] <cl0s_> i think it would run better.. u are pretty much just going to keep the img file on there right?
[02:29] <cl0s_> sounds solid..
[02:30] <rpj8> ice101: You're really really not ready for a *bsd yet though, man.
[02:30] <ice101> of course not
[02:30] <rpj8> ice101: At least in my opinion.
[02:30] <ice101> thats the point
[02:30] <NemesisD> glitsj16, ok that worked, so what next? I already skipped ahead and completed all the other steps...
[02:30] <planet_x> so anyone know how to correct the resizing disk error when installing Ubuntu 8.04 to an already windows XP ntfs drive? wont resize keep getting error
[02:30] <nickrud> Innopeor then try #kubuntu , usually it's live
[02:30] <ice101> my computer isn't critical
[02:30] <dd> zzz
[02:30] <ice101> well not really
[02:30] <zod21> whats up fellas
[02:30] <ejer> planet_x: resizing does not always work as expected... what is error
[02:30] <Innopeor> nickrud, i try
[02:31] <nickrud> planet_x have you defragged the xp partition? I hear that helps, often
[02:31] <Midorix> gewgfvhrekjg
[02:31] <Midorix> ertfghrgef
[02:31] <Flannel> Midorix: ?
[02:31] <Innopeor> nickrud, usually it's live but not today :-)
[02:31] <dynoll3> ejer, u dont really understand your howto :(  my problem is : i can only see a corner of the GDM when i start my computer (and the place to write my account and the password)... its like if my screen wasnt at the good resolution... but only when i log on... now its ok
[02:32] <glitsj16> NemesisD: okay, that leaves restarting your pulseaudio daemon .. is that still running ? check via 'pidof pulseaudio', if it returns a number it is, so you will need to killall pulseaudio first in that case
[02:32] <ejer> Innopeor: what is wrong with link i sent u
[02:32] <henry999> hi
[02:32] <dynoll3> ejer sorry I dont understand**
[02:32] <henry999> May I know in Ubuntu how to turn off the smtp
[02:32] <moreau> OK I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and Mplayer still gives me the same error: "couldnt determine type f stream'
[02:32] <planet_x> nickrud: i just installed windows xp so i dont think its fragged up alot... just keep getting the same general error: Resize operation failure, error occured while writing changes to the storage devices. I am trying to resize my Windows XP partition from 80 gigs to use half for Ubuntu 40 gigs each'
[02:32] <ejer> dynoll3: sounds like a resolution issue, which is what that article tries to help fix...
[02:32] <Innopeor> ejer, your link is wrong.. no there any package relative to 4.1, only old 4.0
[02:32] <songq> nickrud, hi, this is icesword
[02:33] <dynoll3> ejer, but i dont really understand it :S
[02:33] <Flannel> Innopeor: You'll want to ask the people in #kubuntu-kde4 about it
[02:33] <histo> How can I compile modules for a kernel?
[02:33] <kr00l> what's the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[02:33] <cdj26> hey, im trying to change the location of Documents and such so that when i click them in nautilus the open the folders i specify, and the same for default save and open locations
[02:33] <Starnestommy> kr00l: regular ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu uses kde
[02:34] <chezerian> Ive created a back up of my system using this how to (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34629) and im trying to burn it to a DVD using cd/dvd creator but everytime i do that i get an error message "There was an error writing to the disc: Unhandled error, aborting".
[02:34] <cdj26> KDE sucks
[02:34] <nickrud> planet_x myself, I recreated partitions from scratch (one empty and one ext3) and installed windows to the empty one, then had the ext3 for ubuntu. Did this a couple hours after purchase, so it was feasable
[02:34] <henry999> May I know in Ubuntu how to turn off the smtp?
[02:34] <cdj26> use gnome
[02:34] <nickrud> songq good afternoon
[02:34] <kr00l> I understand that, but what's the difference between kde and gnome? is it just a file system?
[02:34] <ejer> !kde
[02:34] <Flannel> kr00l: No, the GUI
[02:34] <cdj26> no
[02:34] <Innopeor> the only mode to install kde 4.1 in gutsy is compiling it from sources [sic!]
[02:34] <cdj26> it is how it looks
[02:34] <rpj8> kr00l: Gnome and KDE are desktop environments
[02:34] <cdj26> GUI
[02:34] <cl0s_> kr00l: almost everything
[02:34] <rpj8> kr00l: It's all a matter of opinion which is better.
[02:35] <rpj8> kr00l: Try both, see which one you like, stick with it.
[02:35] <ejer> Innopeor: upgrade?
[02:35] <nickrud> Innopeor seems time to upgrade then
[02:35] <d33d> How do I force ntfs to not be "in use"...for my external HDD /dev/sbd1
[02:35] <songq> nickrud, how do you think of my new nick
[02:35] <kr00l> I don't mind KDE though i just don't like that they put k in front of everything
[02:35] <ejer> i use programs from both kde and gnome
[02:35] <histo> Do I just make oldconfig then make modules ? in /usr/src/linux?  I'm currently booted in .18 kernel but need to recreate the modules for .19 I borked those up.
[02:35] <cdj26> to install kde4 kubuntu it is apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[02:35] <cl0s_> lol @ kr00l
[02:35] <Innopeor> ejer, i cannot upgrade to hardy, for problems relative at my mobility radeon 9100 igp
[02:35] <nickrud> songq deceptive :) Your icy sword of sarcasm was nice :)
[02:35] <cdj26>  hey, im trying to change the location of Documents and such so that when i click them in nautilus the open the folders i specify, and the same for default save and open locations
[02:35] <cl0s_> Gnome puts g infront of everything..
[02:35] <histo> Anyone?
[02:35] <cdj26> and KDE a K
[02:35] <kr00l> I wanted to try the new kde 4.1, looks nice
[02:35] <cdj26> it sucks
[02:35] <cdj26> many many bugs
[02:36] <planet_x> nickrud: ok i can do this using the manual partition, so I just set one drive to ext3 and then format it with root? should that be okay or does ubuntu need more for swapping and stuff
[02:36] <cdj26>  hey, im trying to change the location of Documents and such so that when i click them in nautilus the open the folders i specify, and the same for default save and open locations
[02:36] <glitsj16> BobPenguin: have you tried installing libportaudio2 yet ? that has pulseaudio support for audacity fixed (you will need to set audacity's preferences for playback/recording to OSS if you go that route)
[02:36] <ejer> !repeat | cdj26
[02:36] <kr00l> you can't just say kde sucks if you don't justify it with facts
[02:36] <planet_x> like another partition .. or just one is good and it will take care of that?
[02:36] <cdj26> BUGS GALORE
[02:36] <d33d> How do I force ntfs to not be "in use"...for my external HDD /dev/sbd1
[02:36] <rpj8> histo: You'll need to install the modules that you installed by yourself again under your new kernel
[02:36] <BobPenguin> thanks a lot glitsj16
[02:36] <cdj26> in kde 4 you cant change the size of the panel!
[02:36] <nickrud> planet_x I was pretty generic there. I made 4:  ntfs for windows, 12gb for ubuntu / , 2.1gb swap (I have 2g mem, and hibernate) and used the rest for /home
[02:36] <Innopeor> kr00l, me too, who says sucks!  :-)
[02:37] <cdj26> without it looking like crap
[02:37] <cdj26>  hey, im trying to change the location of Documents and such so that when i click them in nautilus the open the folders i specify, and the same for default save and open locations
[02:37] <cdj26>  hey, im trying to change the location of Documents and such so that when i click them in nautilus the open the folders i specify, and the same for default save and open locations
[02:37] <Devourer> How do I set my default sound card?
[02:37] <histo> These are just the default ubuntu modules.
[02:37] <ejer> system>prefs>sounds Devourer
[02:37] <histo> rpj8: I just want to rebuild those
[02:37] <planet_x> ok thanks, i think i may just screw Windows XP and let ubuntu use the whole disk.. its an EEE anyway and i have a desktop with windows heh.. good enough thanks alot for the advice
[02:37] <histo> rpj8: the default ones that come with ubuntu.
[02:37] <glitsj16> BobPenguin: since you refered to a page that assumes pulseaudio i did the same .. you do have that configured ?
[02:37] <d33d> Can anyone help me with my NTFS issue?
[02:38] <ejer> d33d: explain what problem is
[02:38] <nickrud> planet_x heh. Not much space there
[02:38] <cdj26> how do i access this through pidgin
[02:38] <cl0s_> kr00l: its all up to what you like.. to me kde offers too many unused options and buttons in their main interface while Gnome is cleaner and only displays the most used items and assumes settings for everything else (more user friendly), but is a little more of a pain if u want to break that..
[02:38] <moreau> klos: AFTer installing Ubuntu-restricted-extras, I STILL get the same error from the moivie player of "Couldnt determine type of stream'
[02:38] <rpj8> histo: You shouldn't really have a problem as the ones that COME with ubuntu are usually already in the kernel. I could be mistaken, but I don't think i am.
[02:38] <planet_x> 80 gigs heh
[02:38] <Devourer> ejer, do I have to restart?
[02:38] <cl0s_> notice not KDE or Gnome spec but the applications that are tailored for each..
[02:38] <ejer> moreau: try VLC and maybe another file to be sure
[02:38] <histo> rpj8: No they are in /lib/modules/uname-r
[02:38] <rpj8> histo: So recompile and see if anythign breaks :)
[02:38] <nickrud> moreau are you sure it's an mp4? try   file <mp4file>   in a terminal
[02:38] <ejer> Devourer: not sure... maybe log out
[02:38] <chezerian> Ive created a back up of my system using this how to (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34629) and im trying to burn it to a DVD using cd/dvd creator but everytime i do that i get an error message "There was an error writing to the disc: Unhandled error, aborting".
[02:38] <rpj8> histo: They are.
[02:39] <rpj8> histo: And they are there because they come compiled from the kernel
[02:39] <histo> rpj8: I know that.
[02:39] <d33d> I shutdown my pc (forced) Windows machine, my external HDD is marked as being "in use" with NTFS. I need to force that off with a mount option...i forget it...
[02:39] <ejer> chezerian: that is a generic error, is file too big, what type of file, how did u try to burn it
[02:39] <tico> hello i'm trying to do a local instalation of joomla in ubuntu but i dont know where is the localhost directory
[02:39] <histo> rpj8: How do I replace ones that are there with their original version
[02:39] <d33d> because it will not mount.
[02:39] <tico> where should i place the joomla folder?
[02:39] <cdj26> how do you access the irc through pidgin, i added an account with the default server....no luck from there
[02:39] <nickrud> d33d -o force
[02:39] <nks_> Hello All, Would anyone have a solution for flash video in youtube and other's only playing for 2-4 seconds then stopping ?
[02:39] <chezerian> tico: the file is 4.2 Gb which is less than 4.7Gb
[02:39] <histo> nks_: install updates
[02:40] <cl0s_> cdj26: just enter your nick leave everything else the same should work..
[02:40] <cl0s_> no pw.. atleast for me..
[02:40] <cdj26> then what do i do
[02:40] <rpj8> histo: You want to install OLD modules in a new kernel environment?
[02:40] <nickrud> cdj26 you should try xchat (not xchat-gnome) for irc, works better over all
[02:40] <nks_> I did - still no working -
[02:40] <d33d> nickrud so like sudo mount -o force /dev/sdb1
[02:40] <cl0s_> Buddies > Join A Chat
[02:40] <chezerian> ejer: file type is .tar.bzip2 size is 4.2Gb
[02:40] <cl0s_> then enter the channel.. #ubuntu .. include the #
[02:40] <rpj8> histo: I suppose you could download the source for the modules and compile them with flags for your current kernel. I guess.... I don't really know... I don't see why you'd want to really do that
[02:40] <nks_> I've also searched google to no success !
[02:40] <nickrud> d33d yes. But me, I'd reboot into windows and let windows deal with ntfs errors. I'm very conservative with my data
[02:40] <ejer> chezerian: try another disc
[02:41] <moreau> file <file> returned:   setgid ISO Media, MPEG v4 system, version 1
[02:41] <ejer> d33d: i would boot into windows if poss with it
[02:41] <d33d> nickrud, i'm too lazy to walk upstairs.
[02:41] <histo> rpj8: I think I found a way to do that.
[02:41] <cl0s_> or in the welcome to freenet IM that pops up u can enter IRC commands..
[02:41] <moreau> vlc will play the file, but wont display the video nor can I hear the audio from it
[02:41] <histo> rpj8: copy the .config from the headers then make modules and copy the modules over the old ones.
[02:41] <nickrud> d33d must not have anything worth the walk ;)
[02:41] <cl0s_> ive always used pidgin for IRC since i started using ubuntu
[02:41] <cdj26> where do i enter that channel
[02:42] <cdj26> sorry new to IRC usually use forums
[02:42] <cl0s_> Buddies > Join a Chat
[02:42] <tombar> dumb question, i just ruined my xorg conf, how can i restore it?
[02:42] <ejer> cdj26: buddies>add chat
[02:42] <cl0s_> yea i never used IRC before ubuntu either.. lol
[02:42] <moreau> did you make a backup?
[02:42] <moreau> @tombar
[02:42]  * nickrud wonders if /j #channel works in pidgin
[02:42] <moreau> it does
[02:42] <cl0s_> nick.. yes..
[02:42] <tombar> nop :S
[02:43] <lanhelp> sudo apt-get install xchat
[02:43] <chezerian> ejer: tried that same error
[02:43] <cl0s_> nickrud: just have to do it in an IRC window.. ie cant do it in an AIM message..
[02:43] <cdj26> is that the same as xchat pre-installed?
[02:43] <Zeroyez> Does the ubuntu installer have support for resizing windows partitions?
[02:43] <nickrud> cl0s_ ok. Maybe someday I'll be running pidgin and this little bit will be helpful   :)
[02:43] <ejer> tombar: X -configure
[02:44] <cdj26> zero: yes!
[02:44] <nickrud> tombar   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritica xserver-xorg returns to a default ubuntu setup
[02:44] <cl0s_> you u get a message from freenet as soon as you connect so I always use that for my commands...
[02:44] <nickrud> tombar -pcritical that is
[02:44] <Sylphid> Zeroyez, yes
[02:44] <tombar> ok
[02:44] <tombar> thanks
[02:44] <tombar> gonna try..
[02:44] <Zeroyez> alright, so I can make my windows partition smaller to fit ubuntu in? :)
[02:44] <cdj26> what do the stars as a name mean?
[02:44] <tombar> and i have a nvidia card? should i add something?
[02:45] <S_> b
[02:45] <cdj26> nvm im stupid
[02:45] <cl0s_> cdj26: what like next to floodbot?
[02:45] <Sylphid> Zeroyez, yes.. there is a sliderbar to change the partition sizes
[02:45] <moreau> cl0s_: can ya think of another solution? file <file> told me it was an MPEG V4---so thats right
[02:45] <Zeroyez> sweet
[02:45] <nickrud> cdj26 no you're not, you answered yourself before we could all pounce :)
[02:45] <Zeroyez> thanks
[02:45] <ejer> tombar: once back in gui use nvidia-settings tool to change stuff
[02:45] <Filthy-God> So
[02:45] <tombar> kk
[02:45] <cl0s_> moreau: u installed the restricted extras and still cant play mp4??
[02:45] <Filthy-God> When does Ubuntu 8.04 work properly on Lenovos?
[02:45] <cdj26> sorry to ask again: im trying to change the location of Documents and such so that when i click them in nautilus the open the folders i specify, and the same for default save and open locations
[02:45] <moreau> yeah
[02:45] <tombar> thanks to both
[02:46] <mikm> Filthy-God: WHat do you mean "when"?
[02:46] <cl0s_> try another mp4 file.. just double click it and let the default program open it..
[02:46] <mikm> Filthy-God: I've had pretty much no problem whatsoever with it on my thinkpad
[02:46] <ejer> cdj26: it is hard to do, google gconf-editor
[02:46] <Filthy-God> Just a general arbitrary 'when'
[02:46] <rpj8> histo: I'm still not quite sure I understand what you're doing, but if it works, congrats on getting it to work
[02:46] <cdj26> oh okay, i messed around with that earlier today
[02:46] <nks_> Hello All, Would anyone happen to have a solution for -freezing flash- Flash only plays for 2-4 seconds - The download continues but is not playing. HELP ! -smile-
[02:46] <Filthy-God> My thinkpad doesn't agree with ubuntu very much
[02:46] <tombar> when i run the dpkg it just ask me about keyboard stuff :S
[02:46] <arrrghhh> so i installed windows on a separate hdd.  how can i add it to grub?  i tried every hd(x,x) combo possible.
[02:46] <ejer> nks_: flash is not working well
[02:46] <cdj26> so the line turns red when my username is involved?
[02:47] <Zeroyez> oh and is there any way to install ubuntu desktop edition without the whole openoffice thing?
[02:47] <Filthy-God> and I don't want to change... it's my favourite distro... but it needs to stop with the whole FF3 failure.
[02:47] <nks_> ejer- no working at all, only plays for about 2-4 seconds
[02:47] <Zeroyez> I just want a completely minimalized gnome powered desktop
[02:47] <ejer> Zeroyez: you can remove openoffice after if you wish
[02:47] <Zeroyez> ok :/
[02:47] <ejer> nks_: yes I know... it sucks
[02:47] <cdj26> zeroyez: why no openoffice? its sick. just install normal then you can remove
[02:47] <nks_> ejer- would you happen to have a solution ?
[02:47] <ejer> no
[02:48] <nickrud> !minimal | Zeroyez (you can add as you please)
[02:48] <nks_> shucks -hahahaha
[02:48] <tombar> ejer, nickrud its just ask me about keyboard stuff.. :S any other way?
[02:48] <Zeroyez> thanks
[02:48] <ejer> tombar: just answer questions :) you can hit enter for almost everything
[02:48] <Filthy-God> What is your think pad?
[02:48] <nickrud> tombar that's all it's supposed to do, the new X is self configuring based on video card. What exactly is your issue
[02:48] <Filthy-God> Don't you experience... FF3 simply just failing to work after a day
[02:48] <nickrud> tombar *based on what it knows about your video card ;)
[02:49] <Filthy-God> and requiring a reboot to fix the dieing Data left behind
[02:49] <Filthy-God> When I close Firefox...
[02:49] <moreau> cl0s: every mp4 I play opens in the totem movie player by default, and tells me that same error each time
[02:49] <Filthy-God> Gnome goes crazy
[02:49] <Filthy-God> and doesn't want to work
[02:49] <ice101> does anyone know how i can prevent firefox from caching previous and next pages?
[02:49] <arrrghhh> Filthy-God, have you tried a different wm?
[02:49] <ejer> moreau: are these apple store mp4s by any chance ;)
[02:49] <Filthy-God> Why would I need to do that?
[02:49] <arrrghhh> ice101, you can severely turn down the cache size
[02:49] <nickrud> ejer oh, good call
[02:49] <arrrghhh> Filthy-God, i don't have any problems with firefox.
[02:49] <rpj8> Filthy-God: To see if it's the fault of metacity of course.
[02:49] <Sylphid> !mp4 Filthy-God
[02:50] <chezerian> ejer: tried that same error
[02:50] <Sylphid> !mp4 | Filthy-God
[02:50] <ice101> arrrghhh: where do i do that? which tab under settings?
[02:50] <Pici> Filthy-God: What exactly does 'gnome goes crazy' mean?
[02:50] <arrrghhh> ice101, advanced
[02:50] <moreau> ejer: hahaha no, never, ever
[02:50] <Filthy-God> well
[02:50] <Filthy-God> Literally...
[02:50] <ejer> moreau: drm will do that
[02:50] <histo> rpj8: I was trying to user a different kernel module for my network card.  Well the new one I installed was messed up. So it borked my card under that kernel.  I was looking for a way to rever to the old module and think I found it.
[02:50] <Filthy-God> as soon as firefox closes
[02:50] <ice101> arrrghhh: this will reduce its memory foot print am i correct?
[02:50] <Filthy-God> I notice everything on my desktop freezing slowly
[02:50] <nickrud> moreau try opening it with vlc
[02:51] <ejer> tried nickrud
[02:51] <Filthy-God> Then when I go to try and reboot
[02:51] <arrrghhh> ice101, potentially.  it'll also potentially slow it's page load times
[02:51] <nickrud> ejer hm. Does any other video work?
[02:51] <rpj8> histo: Hm. I see. Just so you know, if I understand correct what you're doing right now, you're compiling a  new kernel with your cuyrrent running .config file, right?
[02:51] <Filthy-God> I notice the panel becomes unusuable...
[02:51] <ice101> arrrghhh: yea i'm comfortable with that
[02:51] <ejer> nickrud: ask him :) dunno
[02:51] <moreau> it doesnt work nick: the seek bar will move as if its playing, but no audio nor visuals
[02:51] <Devourer> How do I check to see what my default soundcard is?
[02:51] <s33nagai1> I am trying to add files to the /var/www files in Ubuntu 7.10... It says I don't have permissions, but there isn't a root user in Ubuntu... what should I do?
[02:51] <nickrud> moreau do any videos work?
[02:51] <Filthy-God> Command prompt won't open... it just opens to a white screen window.
[02:51] <Pici> !sudo | s33nagai1
[02:51] <Filthy-God> 8.04 has too many experiment snags in it.
[02:51] <moreau> yeah, avi;s, mkv's, mpeg's
[02:51] <Filthy-God> where is the stability?
[02:52] <yoyoned> s33nagai1: use sudo
[02:52] <moreau> everything but mp4 and these are the only mp4's i have
[02:52] <rpj8> Filthy-God: I haven't noticed a snag yet.
[02:52] <rpj8> Filthy-God: I mean, stable for me.
[02:52] <rpj8> Filthy-God: Perhpas something isn't playing well with your hardware?
[02:52] <cdj26> stable for me
[02:52] <Filthy-God> Lenovo Thinkpad
[02:52] <arrrghhh> s33nagai1, /var/www should be chown'd by wwwdata anyways
[02:52] <tombar> ejer, nickrud thank mates! i manage to get it to work with your help...
[02:52] <rpj8> Filthy-God: There's your answer
[02:52] <ejer> moreau: http://people.scs.fsu.edu/~burkardt/data/mp4/claw_pix_example02_movie.html
[02:52] <nickrud> moreau http://people.scs.fsu.edu/~burkardt/data/mp4/cavity_flow_movie.html
[02:52] <cdj26> OOo 3beta2 is sick, dl that now!
[02:52] <Filthy-God> Geee... I say it here and it comes out there...
[02:52] <nickrud> dang, slow:)
[02:52] <s33nagai1> yoyoned: so every time I want something in there I have to copy it in there with sudo?
[02:52] <rpj8> Filthy-God: Linux on laptops often requires some encouragement to get working correctly.
[02:53] <Filthy-God> On my HP
[02:53] <Filthy-God> i never had a problem
[02:53] <S_> DCC SCHAT "X5O!P%@AP[4PZX54(P^)7CC)7}-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!+H" 0 0 0
[02:53] <Filthy-God> except with sleep and hibernate... and now those work...
[02:53] <ejer> nickrud: googled 'mp4 sample' ?
[02:53] <rpj8> Filthy-God: Well.. yeah?
[02:53] <Pici> Filthy-God, rpj8: It runs fine on my Thinkpad t60
[02:53] <ejer> lol
[02:53] <rpj8> Filthy-God: It's different hardware.
[02:53] <nickrud> ejer precisely
[02:53] <NemesisD> glitsj16, sorry had to step out for a few, killed pulse, started with /etc/init.d/pulseaudio start, was that it?
[02:53] <thiago_> hi, good evening everyone
[02:53] <yoyoned> s33nagai1: yes, or it is possible to activate the root account if you like
[02:53] <Filthy-God> My thinkpad R61 seems to hate it...
[02:53] <rpj8> Pici: I don't own a thinkpad. I was only saying linux on laptops can be a pain to get working 100 percent sometimes
[02:53]  * nickrud was slow, cuz he tested first
[02:53] <moreau> damnit the files must be corrupt--because that first link worked
[02:53] <ejer> me too!
[02:54] <arrrghhh> s33nagai1, read what i told you
[02:54] <Filthy-God> I even reflashed BIOS just to see if that was it...
[02:54] <rpj8> Filthy-God: Like I said, different hardware, different chipsets, etc.
[02:54] <Filthy-God> Well... I don't have a crazy chipset.
[02:54] <cdj26> IBM usually is good though
[02:54] <thiago_> does anybody have a nvidia 405 chipset with geforce 6100 integrated ?
[02:54] <cdj26> they try to support GPL
[02:54] <Filthy-God> I doubt its hardware.
[02:54] <rpj8> Filthy-God: You could look up your hardware info and run a google search on that with terms like "linux"
[02:54] <ManualOverDozer8> thiago: why you ask ?
[02:54] <Filthy-God> I am convinced it is software
[02:54] <rpj8> Filthy-God: To see if anythign comes up
[02:54] <moreau> ejer & nickrud: thanks for the help gonna have to redownload this stuff
[02:54] <Devourer> ejer, is there a way to see what soundcard I'm using?
[02:54] <stodge> Anyone using drivel?
[02:54] <NemesisD> glitsj16, this could be part of the problem, when i play a vid in mplayer, part of the output is: *** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refused
[02:54] <thiago_> i'm having problems with compiz with this chipset
[02:55] <rpj8> Filthy-God: Well if everything works well on our boxes, works well on your ONE box, and doesn't on another, what else do you think it is
[02:55] <ejer> Filthy-God: see this http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_8.04_(Hardy_Heron)_on_a_ThinkPad_R61 ?
[02:55] <s33nagai1> yoyoned: How do I activate it?
[02:55] <ejer> Devourer: should be in sound in prefs
[02:55] <Sylphid> stodge, lspci
[02:55] <arrrghhh> how can i add windows on a separate hdd to grub?  i added the entry, but it won't boot.  do i need to put an entry for the drive in fstab for grub to boot it?
[02:55] <glitsj16> NemesisD: it depends really, try "killall pulseaudio" first , followed with "pulseaudio -D" from terminal
[02:55] <ManualOverDozer8> thiago: you may want to elaborate on that and mention what kind of proble,
[02:55] <rpj8> Filthy-God: What makes Ubuntu software on your ONE laptop so special that only you get the pleasure to debug?
[02:55] <nickrud> Devourer   lspci or lsusb lists the probable devices, or sudo lshw
[02:55] <yoyoned> sudo passwd
[02:55] <nickrud> !noroot | yoyoned
[02:55] <Filthy-God> Debug...7.10 worked perfectly
[02:56] <Filthy-God> Firefox 3 gets introduced
[02:56] <Filthy-God> and the world goes to hell.
[02:56] <cdj26> to "activate" root i think it is sudo su passwd
[02:56] <ejer> Filthy-God: so sudo apt-get install firefox-2
[02:56] <NemesisD> glitsj16, not as root right? the plot thickens: W: main.c: RLIMIT_RTPRIO failed: Operation not permitted; E: main.c: read() failed: Operation not permitted
[02:56] <rpj8> Filthy-God: I still hold strong to my previous statement.
[02:56] <arrrghhh> s33nagai1, just chown /var/www to wwwdata and you'll be fine
[02:56] <Sylphid> stodge, or lshw -C multimedia
[02:56] <rpj8> Filthy-God: Did you upgrade or do a fresh install.
[02:56] <Filthy-God> Both
[02:56] <nickrud> arrrghhh s33nagai1   www-data that is
[02:56] <Filthy-God> FF3 still seems to fail to operate correctly
[02:56] <icesword> nickrud, looks like today is nickrud's day, where are other ops?
[02:56] <s33nagai1> arrrghhh: what does chown mean?
[02:56] <Apocalisp> Trying to install hardy on fakeraid, I get all the way through the install without errors, but the first boot halts with "/dev/mapper/isw_huueghhugfgf_v02 does not exist". Is my kernel missing a kernel module to load the fakeraid?
[02:57] <nickrud> icesword picking apart ultamatix
[02:57] <glitsj16> NemesisD: try "sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio start" ..
[02:57] <arrrghhh> nickrud, oh right thanks
[02:57] <ToastGuy> FF3 still has some issues
[02:57] <Filthy-God> tried reporting the bug.
[02:57] <ToastGuy> But that's expected
[02:57] <Filthy-God> Yes I know
[02:57] <arrrghhh> s33nagai1, it's www-data, and www-data is the "user" who accesses your website.
[02:57] <Filthy-God> but to fail so hard?
[02:57] <NemesisD> glitsj16, that doesn't seem to complain
[02:57] <Filthy-God> It's so full of fail.
[02:57] <icesword> nickrud, ultamatix?
[02:57] <rpj8> Filthy-God: Vague whiner is vague.
[02:57] <ToastGuy> The internet is a more complex place
[02:57] <rpj8> Filthy-God: What is it _doing_
[02:57] <nickrud> icesword that's all I'm gonna do, drop the name once in my lifetime unprompted. Google it :)
[02:57] <rpj8> Filthy-God: And did you try running from a command line to see if you get anything odd as output?
[02:57] <Filthy-God> If command prompt didn't whitescreen in the use
[02:57] <Filthy-God> I could try it
[02:58] <Filthy-God> While FF3 is running
[02:58] <glitsj16> NemesisD: we'll get to the mplayer error in a minute .. for that it's usefull to open a few pulseaudio utils, do you have pavucontrol, paprefs etc. installed ?
[02:58] <stodge> ??
[02:58] <arrrghhh> Filthy-God, he means start out in the commandline
[02:58] <Pici> Filthy-God: Are you using compiz?
[02:58] <arrrghhh> and run ff from the cli
[02:58] <Filthy-God> No
[02:58] <s33nagai1> arrrghhh: ??? when I go into /var/ I see www, not www-data
[02:58] <arrrghhh> s33nagai1, google chown.
[02:58] <Filthy-God> compiz complicates things
[02:58] <Pici> Filthy-God: hmmmmm
[02:58] <s33nagai1> k, thanks arrrghhh!
[02:58] <cdj26> how did this happen, Filthy-God, i've never heard of problems like this with hardy
[02:58] <arrrghhh> s33nagai1, www-data is not a directory it's a user
[02:58] <bradford> How can I check my modem to see if it is working?
[02:58] <NemesisD> glitsj16, i believe so yes, interestingly enough though when i run the init.d script, pidof pulseaudio returns nothing, so i don't think its starting
[02:59] <ejer> connect to google bradford?
[02:59] <nickrud> s33nagai1 ls -l /var/www -d , that shows the owner. Normally it's root, but if you expect apache to be able to write in there (like a site that allows file uploads) you need to have at least the dir you will upload to owned by www-data
[02:59] <bradford> yes
[02:59] <icesword> nice, it is, ultamatix
[02:59] <bradford> this is on a different computer
[02:59] <bradford> pppconfig gives an error every time
[02:59] <glitsj16> NemesisD: it can start without a pid, i believe that's a config setting in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf
[03:00] <nickrud> icesword no, it's not. It s a tangled piece of <word I can't use in a family channel>
[03:00] <NemesisD> glitsj16, would it also then not show up with ps aux|grep pulse ?
[03:00] <s33nagai1> arrrghhh: How do I use it? add a password and login? Then I have access to /var/www.... Or how do I make www-data the owner?
[03:00] <arrrghhh> anyone know how to add windows to grub?  i made sure windows didn't mess up my mbr, and it boots fine from the boot menu but not from grub
[03:00] <JDogHerman> Is there an easy way to recover from a hacked ubuntu box?
[03:00] <Filthy-God> kk, I decided to close firefox and it closed clean this time
[03:00] <glitsj16> NemesisD: easily checked though .. try playing something through paplay from terminal .. and yes, in thta case it wouldn't
[03:00] <Filthy-God> I didn't have it running for more than 2 minutes
[03:00] <Filthy-God> so that is good
[03:00] <kevin__> when i install the ubuntu, i can nit find the wired connection in my network
[03:01] <bradford> reinstall grub
[03:01] <nickrud> arrrghhh what partition is your windows on
[03:01] <Filthy-God> started it in command prompt
[03:01] <arrrghhh> s33nagai1, i'd encourage you read the man page on chown... but the command would be "sudo chown -R www-data /var/www/"
[03:01] <s33nagai1> arrrghhh: used to... You have to do something with the chainloader command in grub
[03:01] <Balian> #ubuntu-pl
[03:01] <histo> rpj8: Nah i'm compiling the modules to the normal .19 config
[03:02] <glitsj16> NemesisD: that's one of the reasons i run pulseaudio daemon as a user only, with a killable pid, but i'm the only user on this machine so it may not be an option in your case
[03:02] <NemesisD> glitsj16, failed to open file 'test.mp3'
[03:02] <icesword> nickrud, well, they say it is an app which will let ppl run more games in linux, what is your point
[03:02] <rpj8> s33nagai1: chainloader +1
[03:02] <cdj26> its chanloader+1 i believe
[03:02] <arrrghhh> nickrud, /dev/sdc1.  should be hd(3,0) but it just says starting up and hangs
[03:02] <s33nagai1> arrrghhh: thanks!
[03:02] <NemesisD> glitsj16, nobody touches my computer but me
[03:02] <cdj26> yeah with spave
[03:02] <cdj26> space*
[03:02] <histo> Althought I'm contimplating reinstalling now.
[03:02] <s33nagai1> yes, but thats arrrghhh who needs to know!
[03:02] <cdj26> arrghh: when you get it working, sudo cp menu.lst menu.lst_backup
[03:02] <rpj8> histo: Heh, I'm not sure you know what you're doing, because the .config file is only the settings for compiling your kernel
[03:02] <nickrud> arrrghhh you need to add  map(0,2) <newline> map(2,0) to the windows stanza (assuming you don't have mixed pata/sata, in which case I bow out)
[03:02] <glitsj16> NemesisD: could you paste your /etc/pulse/* files ? .. just to check how things are configured
[03:03] <Filthy-God> Maybe I should go to openSUSE
[03:03] <NemesisD> sure, sec
[03:03] <Filthy-God> That is definitely built for this hardware.
[03:03] <icesword> ****, lags 28s
[03:03] <arrrghhh> nickrud, maybe that's the problem.  ubuntu and grub are on a s-ata drive, and the windows install is on a p-ata drive.
[03:03] <rpj8> Filthy-God: Do whatever you want.
[03:03] <rpj8> Filthy-God: It's yourcomputer, afterall
[03:03] <ejer> arrrghhh: http://ubuntu-georgia.org/installing_ubuntu_and_windows_xp_on_separate_drives
[03:04] <adamfal> hey, folks. i just tried to get last.fm working with rhythmbox by doing (sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset) and now my sound doesn't work.
[03:04] <cdj26> try fedora Filty-God
[03:04] <adamfal> any help?
[03:04] <Filthy-God> Thank you cliche dissenting elitist.
[03:04] <ejer> Filthy-God: have a question? this is a support channel
[03:04] <cdj26> or install Debian and "make your own distro"
[03:04] <rpj8> adamfal: hit in a commandline `alsamixer`
[03:04] <rpj8> adamfal: See if the channels are muted
[03:04] <s33nagai1> Fedora is very nice... used to use it
[03:04] <arrrghhh> Filthy-God, or arch
[03:04] <adamfal> master is in the red
[03:04] <Filthy-God> Yeah... I got cliche dissenting comments from cliche dissenting support elitist.
[03:04] <rpj8> Filthy-God: Listen to this man -> arrrghhh
[03:05] <adamfal> line, mic, mic boost, and IEC958 are muted
[03:05] <adamfal> that's it
[03:05] <arrrghhh> arch has the bleeding edge package stuff down
[03:05] <cdj26> i dont like KDE, especially 4, so i uninstalled fedora before giving it a chance
[03:05] <icesword> nickrud, well, they say it is an app which will let ppl run more games in linux, what is your point
[03:05] <rpj8> arrrghhh: Not to mention the aur :)
[03:05] <cdj26> i like ubuntu enough to not worry about other distos
[03:05] <arrrghhh> cdj26, can't you pick gnome with fedora?
[03:05] <cdj26> yes
[03:05] <Shishire> is anyone else having trouble connecting to scifi rewind?  I keep getting a connection error
[03:05] <nickrud> icesword wait a bit, there're some blogs in the midst of being written with a critique
[03:05] <rpj8> arrrghhh: I think gnome is default in fedora, no?
[03:06] <NemesisD> glitsj16, http://pastebin.ca/1087918
[03:06] <cdj26> two different CD downloads
[03:06] <arrrghhh> rpj8, no it's been kde.  but they offer gnome as an option
[03:06] <adamfal> rpj8: i think the levels are fine
[03:06] <cdj26> one with KDE, one GNOME
[03:06] <Filthy-God> well I used Ubuntu for Monodevelop and Eclipse.
[03:06] <adamfal> i got the wireless to work.. kind of proud of myself
[03:06] <rpj8> adamfal: Is there a little MM at the bottom?
[03:06] <glitsj16> NemesisD: okay, i'll report back .. okay if i PM you on this later on ?
[03:06] <rpj8> adamfal: Heh, wireless is a pain. I congradulate you
[03:06] <jason__> exit
[03:07] <crimsun> adamfal: run the alsa-info.sh script and tell us the url
[03:07] <adamfal> MM i don't think so
[03:07] <arrrghhh> autondiswrapper is pretty sweet
[03:07] <NemesisD> glitsj16, sure thing, can i pm you my email just in case i'm not on?
[03:07] <arrrghhh> takes care of wireless (for the most part)
[03:07] <s33nagai1> arrrghhh: no they are both an option. goto Fedoraproject.org/com then click get fedora. The list both, but no "default!
[03:07] <histo> exit
[03:07] <adamfal> crimsun: i have no idea how to run a script
[03:07] <adamfal> haha
[03:07] <glitsj16> NemesisD: sure, feel free to drop in
[03:07] <arrrghhh> s33nagai1, well they didn't used to offer gnome... which is why i call the kde version "default"
[03:07] <s33nagai1> exit
[03:07] <s33nagai1> quit: byebye
[03:08] <s33nagai1> hehe
[03:08] <crimsun> adamfal: see wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems.  There's a section that tells you how.
[03:08] <cdj26> yeah when you look up fedora, you get KDE Pics
[03:08] <cdj26> especailly because it is the first pop distro with KDE4 installed
[03:08] <arrrghhh> yea they've always been about kde
[03:09] <cdj26> doesnt do much for me, gnome is much easier to use
[03:09] <adamfal> OH
[03:09] <adamfal> MM is all the way down
[03:09] <arrrghhh> i'll try the map thing, i don't quite understand it yet
[03:09] <rpj8> adamfal: :)
[03:09] <cbxrahl_> how can i log in to be root
[03:09] <nickrud> icesword_ http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/07/31/%23ubuntu-ops.html , they start at 0200
[03:09] <cdj26> what are you trying to do arrghhh
[03:09] <adamfal> is that a bad thing? hahahaa
[03:09] <Sylphid> cbxrahl_, sudo
[03:09] <rpj8> adamfal: hit "M" on your kerboard
[03:09] <rpj8> meaning shift + m
[03:10] <cbxrahl_> i know that
[03:10] <Filthy-God> try this
[03:10] <Filthy-God> sudo nautilus
[03:10] <rpj8> adamfal: Could be if you want to listen to music :)
[03:10] <arrrghhh> cdj26, i agree with linus tho and how he says gnome thinks configuration options are scarry... i don't like that mentality.  and i'm tryin to boot my windows hdd from grub.
[03:10] <Filthy-God> and delete the /etc/ folder
[03:10] <stinger05> hi there, i just installed ubuntu hardy! i was just wondering if there is a plugin for pidgin which would enable voice conversations on the msn protocol
[03:10] <cbxrahl_> i am trying a install a .run app and it wont let me unless i am root
[03:10] <adamfal> ok
[03:10] <nickrud> Filthy-God gksu nautilus, if by any chance someone alters his config while in sudo nautilus, it messes up gconf
[03:10] <adamfal> aw, damn
[03:11] <adamfal> mm was on the line in
[03:11] <rpj8> cbxrahl_: What's the .run file from? Is it a reliable source?
[03:11] <Filthy-God> Wow
[03:11] <cdj26> did you mess with it, or did it not work from ubuntu install?
[03:11] <Filthy-God> wouldn't have thought og that.
[03:11] <rrshaw> irc://irc.Anisubs.net/Zero-Raws
[03:11] <adamfal> yes
[03:11] <adamfal> hang on
[03:11] <Sylphid> cbxrahl_, sudo ./app
[03:11] <cbxrahl_> enemy territory
[03:11] <nickrud> Filthy-God um, why in the world would you say delete /etc. This is not a channel for such jokes
[03:11] <adamfal> ﻿i just tried to get last.fm working with rhythmbox by doing (sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset) and now my sound doesn't work.
[03:11] <ejer> stinger05: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4252009#post4252009 no is answer i think
[03:11] <blind> Hey, my friend's power died and now when he boots up, it hangs on "Loading Hardware Drivers" and says RNG not detected.
[03:11] <crimsun> adamfal: I'm still waiting for the output from that script.
[03:11] <blind> Any solutions?
[03:12] <cdj26> arrrghhh, did you mess with it, or did it not work from ubuntu install?
[03:12] <rpj8> adamfal: Just so you know, last.fm and alsa are two different programs :)
[03:12] <cbxrahl_> thanks
[03:12] <newbee617> a question , in rox-file manager, when clicking on a deb package, rox asked me to give a program to open it . what should that program be?
[03:12] <arrrghhh> cdj26, ubuntu was already installed.  i unplugged all hdd's and only left windows hdd installed and installed windows.  now everything hooked back up, the only way to get to windows is from boot menu.  grub no workie.
[03:12] <crimsun> newbee617: /usr/bin/gdebi-gtk
[03:12] <Filthy-God> Because cliche dissenting elitist need someone to fuck them over... because they don't provide strategy to fixing a problem... they simply in a euphemism state "You're problem n00b."
[03:12] <newbee617> crimsun:  thanks
[03:13] <cdj26> arrrghhh, easy solution
[03:13] <th0r> newbee617, probably dpkg
[03:13] <ejer> Filthy-God: take it elsewhere man I would have helped you no problem, now you are being a loser
[03:13] <nickrud> Filthy-God so many things to pick over in that, but I'll settle for !coc and !language
[03:13] <cdj26> arrghhh, tell M$ to go f.uck them-selves
[03:13] <Filthy-God> Right... patronizing.
[03:13] <nickrud> !coc > Filthy-God
[03:13] <nickrud> !language > Filthy-God
[03:14] <newbee617> gdebi-gtk works.
[03:14] <Filthy-God> hmm
[03:14] <adamfal> the sound worked just fine
[03:14] <newbee617> thanks
[03:14] <ejer> you never even asked a question, just complained
[03:14] <Vampy> any help with settin thunderbird to check gmail account in ubuntu
[03:14] <cdj26> arrrghhh, idk, maybe a grub reinstall?
[03:14] <crimsun> adamfal: have you downloaded the script yet?
[03:14] <rpj8> ejer: That's a troll :)
[03:14] <stinger05>  is there another program which has voice on msn protocol for ubuntu ?
[03:14] <rpj8> Don't feed it please.
[03:14] <adamfal> then i tried to reboot alsa, from a last.fm troubleshooting scripta
[03:14] <adamfal> and ka-pow
[03:14] <kathryn18> How do I connect to the internet (using a wireless card) with Ubuntu Server Edition
[03:14] <Vampy> some reason its not gettin to the gmail server
[03:14] <arrrghhh> cdj26, that sounds like a bad idea
[03:14] <crimsun> (you can't "reboot alsa")
[03:14] <ejer> Vampy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4252009#post4252009
[03:14] <Scared> How do I connect to the internet (using a wireless card) with Ubuntu Server Edition
[03:14] <adamfal> darn
[03:14] <Vampy> ty
[03:14] <cdj26> 1. Pop in the Live CD, boot from it until you reach the desktop.
[03:14] <cdj26> 2. Open a terminal window or switch to a tty.
[03:14] <cdj26> 3. Type "grub"
[03:14] <cdj26> 4. Type "root (hd0,6)", or whatever your harddisk + boot partition numbers are (my /boot is at /dev/sda7, which translates to hd0,6 for grub).
[03:14] <cdj26> 5. Type "setup (hd0)", ot whatever your harddisk nr is.
[03:14] <FloodBot2> cdj26: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:14] <cdj26> 6. Quit grub by typing "quit".
[03:15] <cdj26> 7. Reboot.
[03:15] <Sylphid> arrrghhh, you should be able to do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub
[03:15] <crimsun> adamfal: seriously, have you downloaded that script and saved it to your desktop yet?
[03:15] <Cazz2> How do I connect to the internet (using a wireless card) with Ubuntu Server Edition
[03:15] <adamfal> crimsun: no, i have not i apologize
[03:15] <ejer> Vampy: woops! https://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=38343
[03:15] <arrrghhh> Sylphid, i was tryin to use the update-grub script... i'll try that.  didn't even occur to me!
[03:15] <adamfal> i'm trying to multitask in an unfamiliar linux environment
[03:15] <adamfal> i'm a winxp kind of guy
[03:15] <Vampy> hmm that thread is for voice and video.. lol.. not thunderbird gmail
[03:15] <adamfal> unelss Ubuntu does wonders for me
[03:15] <ZStar> I liek ubuntu
[03:15] <ejer> see my correction Vampy
[03:16] <Cazz2> How do I connect to the internet (using a wireless card) with Ubuntu Server Edition
[03:16] <arrrghhh> Sylphid, hrm... didn't give me any output whatsoever.  i guess i'll try a reboot now.
[03:16] <adamfal> okay i did that Sylphid
[03:16]  * ZStar is waiting for a cd with the latest edition on it
[03:16] <LinuxIST>  anyone know how to auto hide task bar in kde 4.1?
[03:16] <adamfal> oops. that wasn't for me
[03:16] <adamfal> nevermind
[03:16] <Vampy> i do now.sory
[03:16] <adamfal> Cazz2: i had to download the updates
[03:16] <arrrghhh> menu.lst is exactly the same.
[03:16] <adamfal> on a hardline
[03:16] <g[r]eek> Hi I want to customise my terminal's look and feel (ie: foreground, background colors and transparency). Where do I configure these settings?
[03:16] <Cazz2> Adamfal; How?
[03:17] <adamfal> try sudo apt-get update/upgrade
[03:17] <ejer> !wpa_supplicant | Cazz2
[03:17] <cdj26> arrrghhh:
[03:17] <adamfal> when plugged into the ethernet
[03:17] <cdj26> terminal
[03:17] <Sylphid> arrrghhh, 1 sec
[03:17] <cdj26> grub
[03:17] <Cazz2> well
[03:17] <rpj8> g[r]eek: open up a terminal, go to edit, profiles
[03:17] <rpj8> g[r]eek: go to town
[03:17] <arrrghhh> cdj26, quit putting it in so many lines, that's flooding.
[03:17] <g[r]eek> rpj8, thanks
[03:17] <Cazz2> It is plugged in atm but not connected
[03:17] <mora> I'm having trouble getting MP3 playback working on Heron.  Other sounds work, just not MP3.
[03:17] <Filthy-God> Man, this whole community this is overrated, I was a heavy communist for a while... now I like fascism.
[03:17] <adamfal> why isn't it connected? it worked fine on a fresh install for me
[03:17] <arrrghhh> mora, get the medibuntu packages.
[03:18] <arrrghhh> !medibuntu | mora
[03:18] <ejer> Cazz2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo#WPA%20Supplicant
[03:18] <cdj26> sorry: goto: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html and do the second option arrrghhh
[03:18] <Cazz2> ok
[03:18] <firefly2442> How can I create a mirror on apache using just the alternate CD?
[03:18] <arrrghhh> mora, once you add that to your repo's, get ubuntu-restricted-extras package.
[03:18] <mora> arrrghhh:  alright.  should i uninstall the gstreamer mp3 codecs?
[03:18] <ejer> !mp3 | mora
[03:18] <firefly2442> I tried using apt-mirror but got kinda stuck
[03:18] <arrrghhh> mora, it'll install gstreamer and all sortsa codecs.
[03:18] <Balian> #ubuntu-pl
[03:18] <firefly2442> My network PXE boot worked perfectly but I don't have net access to install the packages, any thoughts?
[03:19] <Riyonuk> Is this the right place to ask for help on that cube thing?
[03:19] <arrrghhh> Riyonuk, better room would be #compiz
[03:19] <Fezzler> Can I plug guitar into mic or line-in and use Sound Recorder to make crude recording?
[03:19] <MrNaz> does anyone know which spelling library pidgin uses?
[03:19] <Fezzler> Sounds muffled now
[03:19] <Cazz2> :: Yeah? Right By Your Side (Re-Con Remix) www.puremusic.sajt.org - N-Force Vs Darren Styles Shut the fuck up.
[03:19] <cdj26> does it only turn red if your name is the first item?
[03:19] <Riyonuk> Ok, thanks ^_^
[03:19] <firefly2442> MrNaz: I think it's aspell
[03:20] <arrrghhh> Fezzler, the mic jack will sound godawful.  if you have a line-in use it.
[03:20] <ejer> Fezzler: it won't sound good, need an amp really
[03:20] <Vampy> ejer : still sayin failed to connect to server pop.gmail.com and i've verified the setting
[03:20] <arrrghhh> if you name is anywhere in it cdj26
[03:20] <wowbagger421> Can anyone help with a problem I've described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=875154
[03:20] <Fezzler> ejer: How does Garage Band do it un-amped?
[03:20] <Fezzler> ejer: Not great, but something
[03:21] <cdj26> arrrghhh: goto http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html and do the second option
[03:21] <matt___> For "hardcore" video editing, what is the best in Linux?
[03:21] <ejer> Fezzler: you can do the same here, fiddle with levels etc, but you will never be very happy with it
[03:21] <adamfal> crimsun: would you link me to that script again?
[03:21] <mora> thanks, guys.  installing.
[03:21] <cdj26> matt___ i hear cinerella, but i havent been able to install
[03:21] <ejer> Fezzler: probably go into line-in and put full vol or near on that port
[03:21] <arrrghhh> cdj26, lol thanks i saw that already!  i'm tryin it out now.
[03:22] <matt___> cdj26: I just tried it...it confused me. Perhaps I should replace the word hardcore with easy?
[03:22] <Fezzler> ejer: What Sound Capture driver should I use?
[03:22] <crimsun> adamfal: http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-driver.git;a=blob_plain;f=utils/alsa-info.sh
[03:22] <ejer> matt___: kino and http://lives.sourceforge.net/index.php?do=screenshots also
[03:22] <cdj26> matt___ kino is in add/remove but i havn=ent had luck with it
[03:22] <crimsun> adamfal: save it to your Desktop, then run it from a Terminal using:  bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh
[03:22] <matt___> ejer: I'll try
[03:22] <Fezzler> ejer: ALSA or Via
[03:22] <ejer> Fezzler: default?
[03:22] <crimsun> Fezzler: ALSA
[03:22] <ejer> try both?
[03:23] <arrrghhh> gonna try a reboot
[03:24] <FlipFalcon> anybody wanna help me with my modem
[03:24] <adamfal> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/1087942
[03:24] <crimsun> adamfal: sec, looking
[03:25] <Lvl21nerd> hello i am getting abnormally high CPU usage, ubuntu 8.04, and the wierdest thing is that the cpu usage graph shows the cores doing a sort of teeter-totter effect
[03:25] <FlipFalcon> anybody at all its a software modem
[03:25] <Lvl21nerd> as one goes up the other down and visa versa
[03:25] <cwarner__> ne
[03:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> Lvl21nerd: run top
[03:25] <matt___> ejer: kino looks promising...thanks
[03:25] <Lvl21nerd> top?
[03:25] <ejer> Lvl21nerd: use top in a terminal and see what is going ono
[03:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> Lvl21nerd: yes.  see what's taking the resources
[03:25] <cdj26> matt___ i couldnt get codec to work with it
[03:26] <FlipFalcon> anybody here
[03:26] <Sindacious_> Could anyone tell me how I'd go about installing IPv6?
[03:26] <Loganhoup> hello,  could please assist me in how I could get an open source program of mine into ubuntu's repositories
[03:26] <adamfal> flip.. it takes time
[03:26] <matt___> cdj26: It seems to be importing the video now...perhaps you should give suse 11 a try :)
[03:26] <ejer> good luck matt___ can be frsutrating ;)
[03:26] <adamfal> a lot of guys are helping people right now
[03:26] <adamfal> including me heh
[03:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> FlipFalcon: just ask the question already
[03:26] <msmarc> hey what group is my /var fold supposed to belong to? me or root?
[03:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> !patience | FlipFalcon
[03:26] <crimsun> adamfal: try this command:  amixer -c0 set 'External Amplifier' mute
[03:26] <cdj26> matt___ what is the video extension
[03:26] <FlipFalcon> yeah how do i get my 56k modem working in linux
[03:26] <matt___> cdj26: mp4
[03:27] <adamfal> hm.. still nothing, crimsun
[03:27] <Lvl21nerd> Daisuke: for some reason 'root' is using 75%+ of the cpu at all times....and its an e6300 @ stock freq
[03:27] <cdj26> matt___ maybe cause i tried music MP3 and video AVI
[03:27] <ejer> Lvl21nerd: look at next columns for more info
[03:27] <ejer> last column Lvl21nerd - command
[03:27] <cdj26> arrrghhh any luck?
[03:28] <matt___> cdj26: Who knows...but it should work...given the right codecs...
[03:28] <FlipFalcon> i tried the sl-modem-daemon should i try to use this modem or just forget about it since it is a software modem
[03:28] <Vampy> what would it take to be able to run a win32 based program in ubuntu
[03:28] <arrrghhh> cdj26, it didn't change menu.lst, and it still just hangs at the "starting up..." screen.
[03:28] <Lvl21nerd> xorg
[03:28] <Lvl21nerd> is what i see
[03:28] <arrrghhh> Vampy, depends on the program.
[03:28] <ejer> !wine | Vampy
[03:28] <cdj26> arrrghhh: sorry
[03:28] <Loganhoup> lvl21nerd: I've before that ubuntu's system monitor has a habit of using tons of cpu itself just to get other info
[03:28] <crimsun> adamfal: can you confirm with:  paplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav
[03:28] <Loganhoup> heard before*
[03:28] <cdj26> arrrghhh: i dont know, that was my only guess
[03:28] <ejer> Lvl21nerd: this is 'normal' depending on what is going on
[03:28] <arrrghhh> cdj26, np thanks for tryin to help.  i think nickrud hit a chord.  my mbr is on a s-ata drive and the windows drive is p-ata.
[03:29] <adamfal> yep, nothing
[03:29] <adamfal> just hangs in the shell
[03:29] <arrrghhh> my mbr for grub that is.
[03:29] <msmarc> hey what group is my /var fold supposed to belong to? me or root?
[03:29] <crimsun> adamfal: hangs?  or is inaudible but returns to a prompt eventually?
[03:29] <cdj26> arrrghhh: the way to do it is install ubuntu after windows
[03:29] <adamfal> doesn't return to prompt, no sound
[03:29] <Drk_Guy> Hi
[03:29] <adamfal> volume is all the way up, no sound
[03:29] <arrrghhh> i can boot windows if i select it from the bios boot menu.  and yea i know that's the "way to do it" cdj26, i don't want windows but my gf insists on playing sims games.
[03:29] <Lvl21nerd> ejer / Loganhoup: i closed sys mon and then looked at terminal and cpu went down to 6%
[03:29] <Lvl21nerd> ty much
[03:29] <crimsun> adamfal: ok, and you said after using alsa-utils reset, it's inaudible?
[03:30] <Drk_Guy> !sound | arrrghhh
[03:30] <stemount^> arrrghhh: were you playing a late night TV show the other night??!!?
[03:30] <ejer> Lvl21nerd: http://www.google.ca/search?q=xorg+cpu+ubuntu for instance... firefox seems to be a culprit, but so is terminal sometimes
[03:30] <adamfal> crimsun: yes
[03:30] <erickbm> oi
[03:30] <arrrghhh> Drk_Guy, sound?  what?
[03:30] <crimsun> Drk_Guy: wrong guy, I think.
[03:30] <cdj26> arrrghhh: hahah, gilfriends
[03:30] <Loganhoup> lvl21nerd:yw
[03:30] <erickbm> alguen brasileiro aki?
[03:30] <Vampy> what is the terminal command to install wine?
[03:30] <Drk_Guy> lol, sorry
[03:30] <arrrghhh> stemount^, late night game shows?
[03:30] <Drk_Guy> !sound | adamfal
[03:30] <ejer> !apt | vampy
[03:30] <Ahadiel> Vampy, sudo apt-get install wine
[03:30] <arrrghhh> oic
[03:30] <firefly2442> Vampy: sudo apt-get install wine
[03:30] <crimsun> adamfal: ok, so you want to do this:  amixer -c0 set 'External Amplifier' unmute && amixer -c0 set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 1
[03:30] <ejer> !apt-get | vampy
[03:30] <Vampy> ty
[03:30] <AeronTS> could someone please help me configure xmame?  all the games are being shown in a tiny window, i can barely see anything.
[03:30] <ejer> bleh
[03:31] <histo> Alright I messed up some kernel modules in /lib/modules/2.6.blah blah Is there a way to replace them?
[03:31] <FlipFalcon> ok guess the modem is too hard so heres a simpler one anybody here know how to change screen orientation in ubuntu
[03:31] <Drk_Guy> !xmame | AeronTS
[03:31] <Drk_Guy> :P
[03:31] <adamfal> done
[03:31] <arrrghhh> Vampy, and wine won't run all applications.  there's also virtual machines, like virtual box (www.virtualbox.org)
[03:31] <adamfal> tried the up.wav again.. no sound and doesn't return to prompt
[03:31] <AeronTS> when i go into the properties and try to change the window sizes, the drop down box is greyed out and set to something like 640x480, but it's not big at all
[03:31] <ejer> system>screen resolution FlipFalcon
[03:31] <AeronTS> Drk_Guy: trying to be helpful, or something else?
[03:31] <Vampy> sudo apt-get install virtual box?
[03:32] <Vampy> or is that vb
[03:32] <crimsun> adamfal: sudo lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* /dev/seq* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer*
[03:32] <arrrghhh> histo, delete them and apt-get update?
[03:32] <crimsun> adamfal: (please use pastebin)
[03:32] <tico> hello does anyone know where is the configuration.php file?
[03:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> virtualbox, all one word
[03:32] <arrrghhh> Vampy, go to their web page.  there's an open source version in the repository (virtualbox-ose) but i recommend their compiled binaries
[03:32] <adamfal> paste what comes out on pastebin?
[03:32] <crimsun> adamfal: yes.
[03:32] <Drk_Guy> AeronTS: sorry, thought ubotu had something to say
[03:32] <firefly2442> tico: sounds like a web-app, try /var/www/
[03:32] <adamfal> ok
[03:32] <histo> arrrghhh: they aren't controlled by apt
[03:32] <FlipFalcon> i mean to rotate the screen
[03:33] <histo> arrrghhh: I guess I would have to reinstall the kernel would fix it no?
[03:33] <Imaginal> I've created a user for samba, but that user can't run anything from gksudo. How do I change this?
[03:33] <ejer> tico: /etc/php5/apache/php.ini i think, but that is from emeory
[03:33] <FlipFalcon> i have a tablet and i wanna use it in tablet mode
[03:33] <Vampy> having problems with locked directories
[03:33] <ejer> memory lol
[03:33] <mora> Alright, I've installed Medibuntu and the ubuntu-restricted-extras package.  MP3s still don't play.
[03:33] <Nillerz> I got an error, after a hash check, burn and attempted install, saying "disk read error"
[03:33] <adamfal> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/m1d6a71e8
[03:33] <khoda> anyone know how I can make it so that when I highlight and click the mousewheel, it will copy/paste??
[03:33] <ejer> FlipFalcon: rotate screen is in that thing i said
[03:33] <arrrghhh> Imaginal, that user doesn't belong to the group "sudoers" i bet
[03:34] <Fezzler> ejer: I guess you are right.  You can't record a guitar
[03:34] <Imaginal> arrrghhh: how would i change that?
[03:34] <crimsun> adamfal: no wonder, lastfm is hogging the sound device.
[03:34] <ejer> Fezzler: not satisfactorily without a good input
[03:34] <Nillerz> anyone have experience with fluxbuntu?
[03:34] <crimsun> adamfal: you need:  kill 6618
[03:34] <mora> Nillerz:  a little.
[03:34] <ejer> Fezzler: i use http://www.tascam.com/products/us-122.html
[03:34] <Fezzler> ejer: Upon playback I hear hiss and sound of strings almost in background
[03:34] <adamfal> haha
[03:34] <arrrghhh> Imaginal, i think there's a users & groups under system -> administration?
[03:34] <adamfal> greedy last.fm
[03:34] <crimsun> adamfal: after that command, you should retry the paplay command
[03:35] <ejer> Fezzler: could try the mic input, watch levels
[03:35] <adamfal> BEAUTIFUL
[03:35] <Nillerz> I'm getting disk read errors after the "loading kernel" screen during install
[03:35] <adamfal> it works!
[03:35] <crimsun> I would like to add that your codec sucks.  Thanks for being different, ATI.
[03:35] <Fezzler> ejer: You ever try a pocket recorder?
[03:35] <ice109> does anyone know how to get graphics and flash on elinks?
[03:35] <Devourer> Is there a hardware management utility in Ubuntu?
[03:35] <adamfal> okay. problem #1 out of the way.. i have sound again. problem #2 is how do i get last.fm to work with rhythmbox
[03:35] <adamfal> my codec sucks?
[03:36] <adamfal> i had no idea that i owned a codec.. sweet
[03:36] <adamfal> (kidding)
[03:36] <crimsun> adamfal: not that sort of codec.
[03:36] <Fezzler> ejer: Like Zoom or Boss
[03:36] <ManualOverDozer8> di.fm works with mplayer-plugin for mozilla
[03:36] <adamfal> you're way over my head, crimsun
[03:36] <ejer> Fezzler: pmed you
[03:36] <adamfal> but
[03:36] <adamfal> i do appreciate the help
[03:36] <crimsun> adamfal: see the wikipedia entry for audio hardware codecs.
[03:36] <adamfal> this is why linux will survive
[03:37] <ejer> adamfal: what do you want with last and rhythm?
[03:37] <adamfal> ah, do i have an ATI audio card?
[03:37] <msmarc> can anybody help me with gdm and xserver?
[03:37] <adamfal> i just want last.fm to work with rhythmbox
[03:37] <adamfal> it says i have an ALSA error when i try to launch last.fm
[03:37] <mora> okay, so.  MP3s still won't play.  other audio does, it's NOT that my sound is muted - the seek bar and timer do not advance at all if I open an MP3 for playback.  I HAVE ubuntu-restricted-extras, i HAVE the appropriate gstreamer packs.  What should I do?
[03:37] <crimsun> adamfal: what's the output from:  uname -m
[03:37] <Devourer> Is there a hardware management utility in Ubuntu?
[03:37] <adamfal> The ALSA soundsystem is either busy or not present.
[03:37] <ejer> when you use last.fm application adamfal?
[03:37] <adamfal> ui686
[03:37] <ejer> or plugin in rhythm?
[03:37] <zelrikriando> adamfal, then dont use alsa
[03:38] <crimsun> adamfal: ok, good, I'll walk you through the fix in #ubuntu-audio-help
[03:38] <Fezzler> ejer: I back off
[03:38] <crimsun> adamfal: please join that channel now
[03:38] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿adamfal choose the windows media player stream, works for me
[03:38] <ejer> Devourer: add/remove progs look for sysinfo
[03:39] <mandani> I have a disk management question namely is it possible to extend \home to an external usb drive if I am running out of space
[03:39] <histo> I think I got it now. Remove the kernel thats the problem deleted the /lib/modules directory and reinstall the kenrel.  Should replace it.
[03:39] <mora> Addition:  trying to open an MP3 in Audacious causes it to freeze.
[03:40] <ice109> does anyone know a light web browser that is as functional as firefox but doesn't memory leak?
[03:40] <Gillpy_> ice109: opera
[03:40] <histo> ice109: opera
[03:40] <ice109> opera is just as heavy
[03:40] <ice109> i've tried that
[03:40] <Gillpy_> ice109: dillo is very light, but not as functional
[03:41] <mora> ice109: kazehakase?
[03:41] <ice109> Gillpy_: off the top of of your head do you know what it's lacking?
[03:41] <histo> ice109: why not search for browsers on google.
[03:41] <ice109> pretty much the only thing i like is tabs
[03:41] <histo> !better | ice109
[03:41] <ice109> i'm doing that
[03:41] <ice109> lol
[03:41] <ice109> k
[03:41] <Devourer> Thanks, ejer.  sysinfo is great for looking up my hardware configuration, but I can't manage my hardware with it.
[03:42] <Gillpy_> ice109: i think main thing is flash
[03:42] <histo> ubuntu servers are lagging hard.
[03:42] <ice109> how about this, how can get graphics and flash in a CLI browser?
[03:42] <zelrikriando> histo, too many 'customers' :p
[03:42] <ejer> Devourer: nope
[03:43] <Gillpy_> ice109: you can get graphics with links2
[03:43] <MRcheese> how many cpu cores does ubuntu support?
[03:43] <ice109> yea i just saw tht
[03:43] <emet> is PulseAudio fixed in Ubuntu yet?
[03:43] <ejer> MRcheese: all of em
[03:43] <emet> with Flash?
[03:43] <ice109> Gillpy_: but no way it has flash right
[03:43] <ice109> ?
[03:43] <Gillpy_> ice109: no CLI browsers support flash
[03:43] <MRcheese> the max?
[03:43] <ice109> yea
[03:44] <mora> emet:  how is it broken?
[03:44] <emet> mora, for me, if I have music playing, and I play a Flash vid with audio, no audio
[03:44] <mora> emet:  ah
[03:45] <crimsun> emet: it's not a PulseAudio issue but a Flash one.
[03:45] <crimsun> emet: are you using 32- or 64-bit Ubuntu?
[03:45] <mora> emet: on my desktop, i have no such issue that i have discerned
[03:45] <zelrikriando> I like my highlights on 'flash'
[03:45] <emet> crimsun, 32-bit
[03:45] <cdj26> emet: that isnt flash, that is all of it. alsa only allows one alsa audio program to play at a time
[03:45] <crimsun> emet: I'll walk you through the workaround in #ubuntu-audio-help.  Please join that channel.
[03:45] <Erdaron> I have a quick python/IDLE question
[03:45] <ice109> can someone help me get my keyboard working
[03:46] <crimsun> cdj26: incorrect.  It is a Flash issue.
[03:46] <ice109> my left and right keys don't work
[03:46] <zelrikriando> lots of red color
[03:46] <histo> brb hopefully my fix worked
[03:46] <cdj26> crimsun: really, ive had that problem with songbird and vlc
[03:47] <crimsun> cdj26: ALSA is not limited to any number of streams
[03:47] <GOTFrogqc> hi could someone tell me why when I type a path that i got from the file browser i get no such file or directory?
[03:47] <arrrghhh> i still don't understand the map part of the menu.lst
[03:47] <Erdaron> I keep getting "Token error: EOF in multi-line statement." what does htis mean?
[03:48] <cdj26> crimsun: one of them is. im telling you i had that problem and the way for me to "fix" was quit both and restatt the one i wanted audio with
[03:48] <Imaginal> I'm using samba to transfer files between vmware and linux. Those files transfered all automatically have samba as their owner. This is keeping Ex Falso from being able to delete them. How do I fix this?
[03:48] <ManualOverDozer8> Erdaron have you tried #linux-coders channel ?
[03:48] <intangir> hello, i plugged my phone into my computer, but it wont let me mount it and grab its files. i checked my messages and it says it detected it, and loaded mass storage stuff, and created the /dev/sg3 and /dev/sg4 for it
[03:48] <ManualOverDozer8> EOF end of file
[03:48] <intangir> but it didnt mount it
[03:49] <intangir> how do i mount it
[03:49] <Erdaron> ManualOverDozer8: no, but I will now
[03:49] <crimsun> cdj26: no, it really isn't limited.  Seriously.  I removed that limitation a couple years ago.
[03:49] <Erdaron> ManualOverDozer8: yeah, I recognize EOF, but I don't understand how this error can come about, or how to fix it
[03:49] <AeronTS> i'm downloading sdlmame, will everything needed to run this be included in the .deb?
[03:49] <ManualOverDozer8> tokens ummm like video slots you need on to run one
[03:49] <cdj26> crimsun: you removed it
[03:50] <crimsun> cdj26: that said, a misconfigured app attempting to open the raw or plug device will hog the device.
[03:50] <Erdaron> no, I'm writing a simple script that performs some simple calculations
[03:50] <msmarc> exit
[03:50] <Erdaron> the error comes up before it even does anything
[03:50] <crimsun> cdj26: so, a well behaving ALSA app uses 'default' instead.
[03:50] <ManualOverDozer8> #linux-coders might be your best bet
[03:50] <crimsun> cdj26: there are very few exceptions to that guideline, and those exceptions are quite dire.
[03:50] <Erdaron> error window says "Tabnanny tokenizing error" at the top
[03:51] <Erdaron> on what server is that chan?
[03:51] <ManualOverDozer8> right here
[03:51] <Filthy-God> ciao people
[03:51] <ManualOverDozer8> type > /join #linux-coders
[03:51] <Erdaron> nobody in there?
[03:51] <ManualOverDozer8> do list search type > /list
[03:52] <ice109> can i have simulatneously running processes in terminal?
[03:52] <genii> Yes
[03:53] <VitaLinux> hi, m8s
[03:53] <VitaLinux> :-D
[03:53] <Loganhoup> ice109: ctrl+shift+T makes a tab in a terminal
[03:54] <Erdaron> yeah, I did. now it wont' stop. how many chans can there be
[03:54] <Loganhoup> if thats what you mean
[03:54] <Bahaa> anybody here?
[03:54] <Gillpy_> Erdaron: didn't you get a warning not to do that ?
[03:54] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿Erdaron go to #python there is like 200 in there
[03:54] <VitaLinux> yeah, m8
[03:54] <ice109> Loganhoup: now how do i switch through tabs with the keyboard?
[03:54] <Bahaa> thanx god
[03:55] <Bahaa> can I get help?
[03:55] <VitaLinux> what's the prob, Bahaa?
[03:55] <VitaLinux> :)
[03:55] <intangir> how do i mount my phone on my computer so i can get to the files...
[03:55] <Loganhoup> ice109:ctrl+shift+page up
[03:55] <Bahaa> Thank You :)
[03:55] <Erdaron> I need to be identified to join #python
[03:55] <intangir> it detected it as a generic scsi device
[03:55] <Bahaa> I have win and lin
[03:55] <intangir> but it didnt mount it
[03:55] <VitaLinux> yes
[03:55] <VitaLinux> go ahead
[03:55] <Loganhoup> ice109: or you can just click on through them
[03:55] <ice109> sure
[03:56] <Bahaa> and I have to format the win's partetion and reinstall it
[03:56] <Gillpy_> Erdaron: typing /list is not a good idea on freenode. to search for channels use /msg alis list *foobar*
[03:56] <VitaLinux> Bahaa, go ahead
[03:56] <Vampy> ok.. using wine to install a program and i get a ole error 800040001.. what is this error for and how do i fix
[03:56] <Erdaron> Gillpy_: well it's done now
[03:56] <Bahaa> but i'll lose the lin boot loader
[03:56] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿Gillpy_ : didnt know that, thank you
[03:56] <VitaLinux> well, m8, u want win back is that what u mean?
[03:57] <Bahaa> nope
[03:57] <Bahaa> I want to keep grub
[03:57] <Evolution2> um..i just installed hardy and im wondering why i cant install xmms...what happened to it?
[03:57] <sparr> is there a forum for discussing maintaining old packages?  i wish i had the free time to keep the xmms package alive now that its being dropped, but id like to offer thanks to anyone who picks it up
[03:57] <Flannel> VitaLinux: try asking in #winehq
[03:57] <VitaLinux> yeah, u got only one HD?
[03:57] <Bahaa> yeah
[03:57] <Flannel> sparr: #ubuntu-motu
[03:57] <VitaLinux> no, flannel, I'm not asking 4 help here, thanx
[03:58] <td123> Evolution2: how are you installing xmms
[03:58] <Bahaa> win on disk-0 and lin on disk-5
[03:58] <Evolution2> synaptic
[03:58] <Flannel> VitaLinux: sorry, thta wasn't for you.
[03:58] <Flannel> Vampy: try asking in #winehq
[03:58] <untraceable> where can i download a .inf driver for an atheros 5008 to use in NDIS wrapper
[03:58] <td123> Evolution2: what do you get as an error?
[03:58] <sparr> Evolution2: xmms was removed from hardy, debian dumped it :(
[03:58] <sparr> td123: he isnt installing it because its not available any more
[03:58] <emet> sparr, not that I know of but you can set up a launchpad PPA
[03:58] <Flannel> !xmms | Evolution2, sparr
[03:58] <VitaLinux> ok, so u need 2 edit grub 2 add the win boot
[03:59] <Bahaa> noo
[03:59] <Bahaa> I have grub working now
[03:59] <karagabi> hello
[03:59] <sparr> Flannel: screw that, it was patched in the last 9 months.  that is FAR less undeveloped than many packages
[03:59] <ariqs> I can't see my cell phone as a drive when I hook it up to my comp
[03:59] <Bahaa> but when I reinstall win
[03:59] <Evolution2> sparr: aww i really liked it...can i still instsll it on hsrdy?
[03:59] <Bahaa> it will vanish
[03:59] <karagabi> somebody know how I can obtain a certifications from ubuntu
[03:59] <xenos76> How do I close all connections on my Mysql?
[03:59] <sparr> Evolution2: you can install it from gutsy repositories.  but that is very not supported here.
[03:59] <VitaLinux> nope, if u specify the win partition it won't ge deleted
[03:59] <td123> sparr: oooh, well I only used rhythmbox/ mp123 anyways
[04:00] <Evolution2> hmm
[04:00] <Evolution2> so what replaced it?
[04:00] <Bahaa> the lin partition won't be touched , I know
[04:00] <pseup`> Bahaa: grup is installed on the win partition?
[04:00] <Flannel> sparr: Decision to dropped it came before 1.2.11, 4 years had passed since 1.2.10, and that wasn't because it was bug free.
[04:00] <VitaLinux> yeah
[04:00] <Evolution2> sparr: would it cause problems in hardy?
[04:00] <VitaLinux> nope, it's not
[04:00] <Bahaa> I mean, it won't boot grub
[04:00] <Evolution2> sparr: or audacious simply better?
[04:00] <emet> !info audacious | Evolution2
[04:00] <Bahaa> if I reinstall win
[04:01] <td123> Evolution2: nothing really, I recommend rhythmbox, lightweight and stable
[04:01] <VitaLinux> it runs from the MBR, I think
[04:01] <sparr> Evolution2: having xmms would not cause problems.  using gutsy sources would cause problems if you did not manage your pinning rules correctly
[04:01] <Bahaa> it will boot win automaticly
[04:01] <emet> XMMS is really oldschool though, I doubt it will ever die :o
[04:01] <Bahaa> yeah [VitaLinux]
[04:01] <VitaLinux> win can not read this part of the disk, but lin does
[04:01] <Evolution2> yea
[04:01] <Flannel> Evolution2: Its better to find a new player though.
[04:01] <sparr> Evolution2: my system is mixed edgy / gutsy / hardy / intrepid / debian incoming / debian unstable / debian stable.  dont listen to me.
[04:01] <planet_x> slight problem wondering If I could get some assistance: I was trying to transfer Ubuntu installer onto a memory stick using the downloadable Windows Application. I installed off it fine but now after it was reformatted i can only access 715 MB of 8 gigs and windows says 6 GB unallocated, and Ubuntu wont mount the device
[04:02] <Evolution2> Flannel: what do you recommand IYO
[04:02] <Blaqlight> Im at a complete loss as to why the wine gecko installer installs the mozilla engine, installs it then refuses to use it
[04:02] <Tim> Hi. I uninstalled / re-nstalled ALSA and managed tp uninstall GDM desktop :( .
[04:02] <planet_x> anyway to fix this issue and reformat the usb stick so both OS will read it so i can transfer files back and forth?
[04:02] <sparr> emet: debian popcon still says thousands of people are using it.  extrapolate from that tens of thousands of total users on debian.  probably that many again on pre-hardy ubuntu
[04:02] <emet> yeah so maybe someone should maintain it
[04:02] <VitaLinux> Anybody here can explain to bahaa how 2 edit GRUB 2 add another OS?
[04:03] <td123> planet_x: use fat32
[04:03] <emet> I doubt they'll put it back in universe though because of it being undeveloped or something
[04:03] <Blaqlight> Tim: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:03] <Filthy-God> ﻿(firefox:8410): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **:g_oject_unrer: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[04:03] <emet> you are right tho there are things in universe that haven't been maintained for like 2+ years
[04:03] <Filthy-God> does that have any special significance?
[04:03] <rafa_> hey can someone help me regulate fan speed for my toshiba satellite r25-s3503?
[04:03] <Evolution2> sparr: what do you recommand i should use instead
[04:03] <Tim> Tried sudo apt-get install gdm ubuntu-desktop  and get msg (one sec re-booting laptop)
[04:03] <Bahaa> I mean, when I reinstall win, MBR will be configured to boot the win automaticly, which I dont want that to happen, or if it happens , how can I configure MBR to boot Grub again
[04:04] <sparr> Evolution2: Audacious is a not-horrible fork-of-a-fork-of-a-fork-of-xmms
[04:04] <td123> Evolution2: try audacious/amarok/rhythmbox
[04:04] <VitaLinux> that's what I want to help you on
[04:04] <Gillpy_> Bahaa: you have to boot into some linux and reinstall grub
[04:04] <emet> audacious is closet to XMMS to those
[04:04] <Blaqlight> Tim: if you install ubuntu-desktop it will install all of its dependacies also... including gdm
[04:04] <Evolution2> ok thanks guys
[04:04] <Bahaa> I have a live CD
[04:04] <untraceable> where can i download a .inf driver for an atheros 5008 to use in NDIS wrapper
[04:05] <planet_x> td123: thanks reformatted will let ya know if Ubuntu reads it hopefully, but for some reason i still have 6 gb unallocated space that i cant reformat with windows :/
[04:05] <Filthy-God> ﻿(firefox:8410): GLib-GObject-Critical **:g_oject_unrer: assertion 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[04:05] <Filthy-God> Now FF3 won't open till I reboot... this is a reoccurring problem
[04:05] <Bahaa> but how to reinstall Grub again
[04:05] <Gillpy_> !atheros
[04:05] <VitaLinux> Bahaa
[04:05] <Samuel> hello room, I want to ask anybody knows how to remove selinux?
[04:05] <Filthy-God> why would you remove that?
[04:05] <Blaqlight> Filthy-God: well, I get that all of the time, its not a bad thing, something else is wrong.
[04:05] <Filthy-God> SELinux is beautiful
[04:05] <Bahaa> ??
[04:05] <Samuel> slow performance
[04:06] <Samuel> I don't know how to tune it
[04:06] <Gillpy_> !grub
[04:06] <Tim> Blaqlight: get "Could not resolve 'archive.ubuntu.com'
[04:06] <Bahaa> wow
[04:06] <VitaLinux> a friend just told me that you can install ﻿QGrubEditor to edit your GRUB as u like
[04:06] <Filthy-God> well.. that is a lot of kernel security to sacrifice
[04:06] <Bahaa> Thank You [Gillpy_]
[04:06] <Blaqlight> Tim: that happens, reload, reissue the command
[04:06] <Tim> Blaqlight: Have been getting this error consitently for a whiole.
[04:06] <Samuel> does anyone feel selinux affect the machine performance?
[04:06] <emet> Samuel, did you try removing package "selinux"
[04:07] <Samuel> I tried apt-get remove selinux
[04:07] <Bahaa> [VitaLinux] Thank You Thank You
[04:07] <Filthy-God> SELinux... seems passive to me...
[04:07] <Bahaa> I got the answer
[04:07] <untraceable> where can i download a .inf driver for an atheros 5008 to use in NDIS wrapper
[04:07] <VitaLinux> YW, Bahaa
[04:07] <planet_x> td123: i reformatted the memory stick under disk management with windows (only could access 715 MB not 6 gigs unallocated because i messed up something when changing the settings using Ubuntu) but it still wont mount under Ubuntu, says invalid mount option plz help thanks
[04:07] <Tim> Blaqlight: I mean, I tried it yesterday evening (a.m. in London here now) and am still getting same error.
[04:07] <Filthy-God> I have a desktop running with 256 mb of ram...
[04:07] <VitaLinux> :-D
[04:07] <xenos76> Can someone help me with a mysql error im having? http://paste.ubuntu.com/32445/
[04:07] <Samuel> oh. any good article on how to tune the selinux?
[04:07] <Samuel> maybe I should try again
[04:07] <Grantbow> !atheros
[04:07] <thinh> can anyone help me with patch kernel?
[04:08] <emet> Samuel, um yeah google it, SELinux isn't easy to learn tho
[04:08] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿Blaqlight : is there a mirror to ﻿archive.ubuntu.com , maybe have luck with that ?
[04:08] <emet> !selinux
[04:08] <thinh> is there a howto for patch kernel i keep getting error message when i use patch command
[04:08] <VitaLinux> !forums
[04:08] <emet> apps in ubuntu are armored with apparmor or whatever by default
[04:09] <Samuel> oh. i see. that's why after I remove the selinux, there's still some remaining gabbage there
[04:09] <VitaLinux> gr8!
[04:09] <Samuel> thx ubottu
[04:09] <emet> Samuel, nothing that would effect performence
[04:09] <fsloke656> hi
[04:09] <fsloke656> hi all
[04:09] <planet_x> anyone know how to fix my USB flash drive so I can mount it on Ubuntu? I screwed up the MBR or something it says invalid mount option and I cant format 6 gigs unallocated out of the 8 gig stick
[04:09] <VitaLinux> hi, fsloke656
[04:09] <RazorBeamz> I'm trying to install Kubuntu along with Ubuntu and I have some questions. Will I be able to access my Ubuntu files?
[04:09] <LinuxIST>  here is a annoying bug, firefox cannot open files--using appropriate app when downloading a file.  in other words, the  'Open with' does not work
[04:09] <Samuel> ok emet. I will try again
[04:09] <fsloke656> Hi Vita
[04:09] <fsloke656> how are you
[04:10] <fsloke656> Need your all help a bit...
[04:10] <RazorBeamz> I'm trying to install Kubuntu along with Ubuntu and I have some questions. Will I be able to access my Ubuntu files?
[04:10] <fsloke656> I using Ubuntu 8.04
[04:10] <td123> planet_x: read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=870314&highlight=format+usb
[04:10] <xenos76> Im having some errors when trying to bind ports through mysql. Can someone help me identify my problem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/32445/
[04:10] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿LinuxIST there is options for that in FireFox: Edit/Preferences/Applications
[04:10] <fsloke656> May I know how to stop my sendmail service?
[04:10] <VitaLinux> RazorBeamz: I suggestd u 2 create a separated  /home and share it with your *buntus
[04:10] <fsloke656> sendmail /SMTP service...
[04:10] <planet_x> td123: thanks will do
[04:11] <LinuxIST> ManualOverDozer8, it is blank
[04:11] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿LinuxIST : what is blank, the application screen ?
[04:11] <Yondering> RazorBeamz, my only question is why both distros?
[04:11] <td123> planet_x: key idea is gparted
[04:11] <RazorBeamz> Also, whenever I try to install kubuntu-kde4-desktop It can't install
[04:11] <LinuxIST> ManualOverDozer8, application list under preference
[04:12] <fsloke656> may i know how to stop service in ubuntu
[04:12] <RazorBeamz> Yondering: Because some programs work better on KDE
[04:12] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿LinuxIST : got me there, never seen that.
[04:12] <thinh> how does the patch work?
[04:12] <Yondering> RazorBeamz, so your real problem is why you aren't able to install kde on your existing installation?
[04:12] <Gillpy_> RazorBeamz: lol, you can have kde and gnome on same linux
[04:12] <emet> Yondering, no you can
[04:12] <RazorBeamz> But it won't work
[04:12] <emet> !info kubuntu-desktop
[04:12] <td123> fsloke656: system->administration->services
[04:13] <Yondering> emet, I know
[04:13] <emet> not KDE4.1 tho
[04:13] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿LinuxIST : Configuration Editor i believe can associate file types. but there may be a better way
[04:13] <zaapiel> kde4 is a joke
[04:13] <destructar> hi... i just uninstalled compiz via synaptic and i lost my windows manager... can't even close windows etc.
[04:13] <xenos76> Im having some errors when trying to bind ports through mysql. Can someone help me identify my problem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/32445/
[04:13] <VitaLinux> ﻿ fsloke656: I think u should go 2 Prefered apps
[04:13] <destructar> what do i need to reinstall?
[04:13] <adamfalkofske> does anyone know how to get last.fm to work with rhythmbox on a fresh install of 8.04?
[04:13] <zaapiel> destructar: compiz?
[04:13] <destructar> yes
[04:13] <zaapiel> i mean install that
[04:13] <destructar> oh
[04:14] <destructar> do i have to have compiz?
[04:14] <aadasas> im trying to view some dicom images from a xray.. can anyone help me.. gimp wont open it and i d/l the aeskulap and it wont view them either
[04:14] <matt1> hello
[04:14] <xenos76> hi
[04:14] <zaapiel> i dont think you have to use it
[04:14] <zaapiel> but it is probally part of ubuntu
[04:14] <VitaLinux> hello matt1
[04:14] <RazorBeamz> None of Kubuntu's dependencies will install
[04:14] <RazorBeamz> How do I get it to work?
[04:14]  * zaapiel digs wiggly compiz windows
[04:14] <matt1> hey VitaLinux, xenos76
[04:14] <destructar> isn't compiz just an add on?
[04:15] <destructar> for effects?
[04:15] <zaapiel> yeah
[04:15] <VitaLinux> whaddap, m8?
[04:15] <xenos76> Im having some errors when trying to bind ports through mysql. Can someone help me identify my problem? http://paste.ubuntu.com/32445/
[04:15] <zaapiel> but you can turn it off without uninstalling it
[04:15] <Yondering> RazorBeamz, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[04:15] <td123> aadasas: what format are the images?
[04:15] <destructar> so... why when uninstalling it do i lose my window's close + minimize bars etc. ?
[04:15] <LinuxIST> anyone having issue with ff 3.01 association helper applications?
[04:16] <xenos76> VitaLinux might you be able to help me?
[04:16] <Yondering> RazorBeamz, then you'll need to change the session on the login screen to use kde, once it's finished.
[04:16] <aadasas> umm... one sec
[04:16] <aadasas> says
[04:16] <aadasas> dicom image
[04:16] <VitaLinux> yeah, maybe, m8!
[04:16] <RazorBeamz> Will this help anyone? http://paste.ubuntu.com/32451/
[04:16] <xenos76> ooh boy
[04:16] <MRcheese> ?
[04:16] <VitaLinux> ﻿xenos76: what's the prob?
[04:17] <xenos76> Im having some errors when trying to bind ports through mysql.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/32445/
[04:17] <Blaqlight> lol
[04:17] <VitaLinux> !mysql
[04:17] <aadasas> Opening '/media/cdrom0/dicomdat/sdy00001/srs00001/img00001' failed: DICOM image plug-In could not open image
[04:17] <LinuxIST> anyone know how to resove issue with ff 3.01 association helper applications?
[04:17] <aadasas> Plug-in crashed: "dicom"
[04:17] <aadasas> (/usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/dicom)
[04:17] <aadasas> The dying plug-in may have messed up GIMP's internal state. You may want to save your images and restart GIMP to be on the safe side.
[04:17] <planet_x> td123: i reformatted the whole stick into FAT but still having same issue.. Windows picks it up no problem but Ubuntu says invalid mount option when attempting to mount volume and wont pick up the files i transfered over, any help appreciated thanks
[04:17] <ManualOverDozer8> VitaLinux : http://www.medibuntu.org/   worked for me on streaming audio
[04:17] <aadasas> thats with gimp
[04:18] <xenos76> I am not setting up LAMP though.
[04:18] <aadasas> with aeskulap it doesnt auto find them i have to search the cd and when i open them... its just a black image .. but it does show like some info on the pics
[04:18] <ManualOverDozer8> not sure, all i know is i can stream most all forms of media content now
[04:18] <VitaLinux> well, ﻿xenos76, what's the error?
[04:19] <aadasas> any idea td123
[04:19] <Tim> can someone help me with sudo apt-get install gdm ubuntu-desktop pls? Consistently getting "failed to fetch ... could not resolve 'archive.ubuntu.com'
[04:19] <xenos76> VitaLinux: the first error was : Bind unsuccessful on port 3724.Bind unsuccessful on port 8093.
[04:20] <planet_x> td123: sorry nvm i figured it out thanks for the help
[04:20] <td123> aadasas: it isn't a long term solution, but if you need to view them, you could try going into synaptic, search for "dicom" you can use a package called medcon/xmedcon to convert the images to a png or other format supported by gimp so you can at least view the images
[04:20] <VitaLinux> anybody can help  to set correctly the port binding with MySQL here?
[04:20] <matt1> yaq - I'm trying to figure out what process is running if my pc goes into idle. This causes my whole computer to slow down most obviously effects flash streams and audio playback.
[04:20] <ethana2> ubuntu ships ekiga and pulseaudio, but they don't seem to work with eachother
[04:20] <Yondering> tim, try just installing ubuntu-desktop for gnome, if that's what you're after.
[04:20] <aadasas> thanks for the idea.. maybe there will be some other applications that can help as well
[04:20] <VitaLinux> ﻿anybody can help  to set correctly the port binding with MySQL here?
[04:20] <ethana2> ...first of all, how did that happen-- second, how do i rectify it?
[04:21] <Tim> Yondering: Thx. what the command?
[04:21] <Gillpy_> !repeat > VitaLinux
[04:21] <td123> aadasas: the only ones that are in the repos is the ones that you can see from the search results, anything else is unsupported
[04:21] <matt1> Tim: check your /etc/apt/sources.list and see if archive.ubuntu is setup properly
[04:21] <Tim> matt1: OK.
[04:21] <Yondering> Tim, sudo aptitude install ubuntu--desktop should do it, once your sources are good.
[04:22] <Yondering> er, ubuntu-desktop rather.
[04:22] <aadasas> soo.... what ur saying is i should add some other repos and search
[04:22] <Tim> Yondering: Thx. Will check.
[04:22] <Filthy-God> *watches Southpark and decides bugs aren't worth fixing*
[04:22] <fangorious> I know this doesn't entirely make sense on ubuntu with loca root disabled by default, but is there an ldap configure to prevent local root from using su to become an account from ldap?
[04:22] <LinuxIST>  here is the mimetype file http://rafb.net/p/VSlcSe24.html
[04:23] <VitaLinux> could someone  help ﻿xenos76  to set correctly the port binding with MySQL here?
[04:23] <td123> aadasas: is "ctn" something else that you're looking for? | ya there could be other repos, but try finding other apps that support viewing dicoms
[04:23] <face-shot> how long is gksudo good for? ~5 mins?
[04:24] <ListenToMyMusic> I have to recompile my nvidia drivers on every boot, is there a fix?
[04:24] <VitaLinux> have a good nite, m8s!
[04:24] <VitaLinux> :)
[04:24] <xenos76> VitaLinux: do you think it might be a problem because my one computer is connected to 2 routers (1 Physical and 1 Virtual)?
[04:24] <xenos76> ...
[04:24] <VitaLinux> yeah, that could be the prob
[04:24] <ManualOverDozer8> tim : http://91.189.88.45/ubuntu/pool/   if you cant resolve the host name
[04:24] <td123> aadasas: nvm, I'm sorry but it looks like you're going to have to find a program that isn't included in the default repos
[04:25] <xenos76> is there a better IRC to get support on this topic?
[04:25] <VitaLinux> can u set it within 2 machines under your lan with one router ﻿xenos76?
[04:25] <jbroome> xenos76: #mysql probably
[04:25] <Grantbow> face-shot: man sudo says 15 minutes unless overridden in /etc/sudoers
[04:26] <xenos76> I don't understand VitaLinux. Thank you jbroome
[04:26] <VitaLinux> yeah, jbroome, I think so
[04:26] <ice109> where is the terminal bin?
[04:26] <xenos76> Ill check in the mysql irc
[04:26] <genii> "terminal bin" ?
[04:26] <VitaLinux> misgrammar, ﻿xenos76 :-D
[04:26] <l3d> I could use some help with nfs
[04:26] <Tim> ManualOverDozer8: Thanks. Am a bit dumb with CLI.
[04:26] <ice109> genii: the executable
[04:26] <ManualOverDozer8> Applications/Accessories/Terminal ?
[04:26] <face-shot> Grantbow, thank you very much, I keep forgetting about man/info!
[04:26] <ice109> ManualOverDozer8: no the actual executable
[04:27] <Gillpy_> ice109: use which() to find executables
[04:27] <Dusk_> hi there...my power manager doesn't show the remaining battery time
[04:27] <genii> ice109: Most are found in places like /bin /usr/bin and so on
[04:27] <Gillpy_> ice109: or whereis()
[04:27] <phece> where's a good tutorial for setting up ms word and excel through wine?
[04:27] <Tim> ManualOverDozer8: Have located sources.list using MC, but can't view it!
[04:28] <ManualOverDozer8>  /usr/bin/gnome-terminal
[04:28] <ice109> Gillpy_: apparently terminal is not an app
[04:28] <ManualOverDozer8> not sure what i can tell you , i just know how to get by DNS issues.
[04:28] <ManualOverDozer8> no pro at sources.list
[04:28] <genii> ice109: See ManualOverDozer8's comment above
[04:29] <fsloke656> thank guys
[04:29] <Dusk_> hi there...my power manager doesn't show the remaining battery time
[04:29] <ManualOverDozer8> yes that is the executable
[04:29] <ManualOverDozer8>  ﻿/usr/bin/gnome-terminal
[04:29] <ice109> umm i'm in xubuntu
[04:30] <ice109> forgot to mention
[04:30] <ManualOverDozer8> maybe xubuntu-terminal ?
[04:30] <_Zeuz_> where can I change the Ubuntu's Icon for a custom one in the Gnome's upper panel?
[04:30] <Gillpy_> ice109: Do you know what xterm you are using?
[04:30] <ManualOverDozer8> the name of the distro-terminal, just a wild guess
[04:30] <ListenToMyMusic> I have to recompile my nvidia drivers on every boot, is there a fix?
[04:30] <Dusk_> hi there...my power manager doesn't show the remaining battery time
[04:30] <Dusk_> hi there...my power manager doesn't show the remaining battery time
[04:30] <ice109> Gillpy_: it's just called terminal
[04:30] <Dusk_> oups sorry
[04:31] <_Zeuz_> ice109, terminal is the one coming with xfce
[04:31] <ice109> i found a script called xfce4-terminal.wrapper
[04:31] <arm_> romania
[04:31] <Tim> Thx all for help. Have tp get some sleep now (if poss) 4.30am here :( Will have to try and resolve again later
[04:32] <mentat> greetings
[04:32] <_Zeuz_> where can I change the Ubuntu's Icon for a custom one in the Gnome's upper panel? --- Bumpin' because of possible time deferral
[04:32] <mentat> what does  TO MANY FILES OPEN MEAN?
[04:32] <ManualOverDozer8> timL for future reference, you can add that IP to your host file.
[04:32] <_Zeuz_> mentat, I think it's pretty self explainatory
[04:32] <mentat> i sit
[04:32] <ManualOverDozer8> of course till it changes
[04:32] <mentat> because i have never seen an error like that in windows
[04:32] <Dusk_> my gnome power manager doesn't show the remaining battery time
[04:32] <LinuxIST> someone using kde and firefox3 please paste this file content 'extensions.rdf"
[04:33] <Dusk_> it shows as percentage but not as time
[04:33] <Gillpy_> ice109: you could do ps -e | grep term to get the process name, then use whereis
[04:33] <Flannel> !repeat | Dusk_
[04:33] <mentat> and thats one of the problem with LINUX. u get someone that ask a questions then you get a smart ass answer
[04:33] <Flannel> LinuxIST: Did you delete it?
[04:33] <graelb> Hi there... is there a good application or widget or something that'll show me what's running in the systray?
[04:33] <mentat> there are no OPEN FILES
[04:33] <ice109> what is -e?
[04:33] <_Zeuz_> yeah, right.
[04:33] <ice109> Gillpy_: what does -e flag do?
[04:33] <mentat> so how is that sellf explaintiory/
[04:34] <Filthy-God> MENTAT
[04:34] <LinuxIST> Flannel, my mime type does not work-when downloading files and chosing 'open with'
[04:34] <Filthy-God> OMG... a Dune Lover
[04:34] <Filthy-God> <3
[04:34] <Gillpy_> ice109: shows all processes
[04:34] <ice109> yea
[04:34] <ice109> so i don't get it i can or i can't run multiple processes on on terminal session?
[04:34] <_Zeuz_> mentat, ps auxw and SEE IF THERE ARE NO OPEN FILES :D
[04:34] <td123> ps -e(verything)
[04:35] <mentat> lol
[04:35] <td123> ice109: yes, but you can only have one application that is currently using the terminal (other programs can be running in background)
[04:35] <Gillpy_> !bg
[04:35] <Gillpy_> stupid bot
[04:36] <ice109> td123: so how do i exit a terminal app without quitting it?
[04:36] <mentat> this TO MANY OPEN FILES is in uTorrent running under wine
[04:36] <mentat> but there is only like 10 torrents running
[04:36] <LinuxIST> actually,  Imeant this file: mimeTypes.rdf
[04:36] <ListenToMyMusic> too many
[04:36] <thinh> how does the patch work?
[04:36] <td123> ice109: you mean send it to the background? you type "command &" to send it to the background so it doesn't use the current terminal
[04:36] <mentat> what is a good torrent client for ubuntu
[04:37] <Gillpy_> ice109: you need to use screen for that
[04:37] <ListenToMyMusic> transmission, ktorrent
[04:37] <td123> mentat: transmission
[04:37] <thinh> nvidia windows
[04:37] <Gillpy_> !screen
[04:37] <mentat> td123: i hear that is not very good
[04:37] <ice109> td123: suppose i launch transmission and want to "minimize" it in the terminal
[04:37] <thinh> compiz config border issue
[04:37] <ice109> how do i do that
[04:37] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿LinuxIST you need the contents of ﻿mimeTypes.rdf ?
[04:38] <thinh> need to fix border for firefox anyone?
[04:38] <ListenToMyMusic> mentat: i use ktorrent and it works fine for me, has a upnp plugin to auto port foward and an rss feed reader to auto download some torrents
[04:38] <td123> mentat: it does the job so I haven't used any others
[04:38] <LinuxIST> ManualOverDozer8, if you use kde and ff 3
[04:38] <ManualOverDozer8> nope Gnome here
[04:38] <mentat> ListenToMyMusic: does it work in Gnome?
[04:38] <ListenToMyMusic> mentat yes
[04:38] <mentat> nice
[04:38] <mentat> and it runns well?
[04:38] <ListenToMyMusic> mentat appearance will be different
[04:39] <ListenToMyMusic> yeahh
[04:39] <mentat> cause im on a 100/100 connection
[04:39] <ManualOverDozer8> actually it is a pretty small file, not much in it really
[04:39] <ListenToMyMusic> kde apps run just fine in gnome
[04:39] <mentat> i need something that runs well and will get the speeds i need
[04:39] <td123> ice109: do ctrl + z to send it to the background, but that will freeze the application sort of "suspending it" to get it back, type fg
[04:39] <ListenToMyMusic> i dl at 1.5 MB/s sometimes
[04:39] <ListenToMyMusic> so yeah
[04:39] <palomer> how do I add something to my path?
[04:39] <mentat> ill give it a shot
[04:39] <mentat> ktorrent
[04:39] <ListenToMyMusic> while transmission dls at around 400 kb/s
[04:39] <ice109> so then, supposing transmission, won't dl anymore?
[04:39] <AeronTS> I'm trying to install the sdlmame package and am getting some sort of buffer reading error message, can someone please help me? thanks
[04:39] <td123> ice109: but I would just recommend learning screen if you're not going to use multiple xterms/ a window manager
[04:39] <mentat> thanks ListenToMyMusic, one other question
[04:39] <AeronTS> here is the pasted output to pastebin -> http://pastebin.com/m94eefdb
[04:39] <mentat> do u use KDE?
[04:40] <adamfalkofske> could someone help me mount a sony memory stick duo on my HP laptop's internal reader?
[04:40] <ice109> td123: what is screen?
[04:40] <ListenToMyMusic> mentat: under plugins enable upnp and port foward if you have a router
[04:40] <mentat> i dont
[04:40] <td123> !screen | ice109
[04:40] <ListenToMyMusic> oj
[04:40] <mentat> its a dedicated line
[04:40] <ListenToMyMusic> ok*
[04:40] <mentat> ListenToMyMusic: u using KDE?
[04:40] <ListenToMyMusic> nope
[04:40] <ListenToMyMusic> gnome
[04:40] <LinuxIST>  this what mine looks like now: http://rafb.net/p/2wQ7gO39.html
[04:41] <ListenToMyMusic> i installed the kde theme manager though to change the appearance of kde apps
[04:41] <td123> ice109: may I ask why you aren't using a window manager?
[04:41] <thinh> what the command to fix the border for compiz with nvidia
[04:41] <mentat> whats the best way to install KDE and also have Gnome as an option?
[04:41] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿LinuxIST yours is much more extensive than mine
[04:41] <Flannel> palomer: What are you trying to add?
[04:41] <ice109> td123: i am
[04:41] <AeronTS> i found the sdlmame package at http://wallyweek.altervista.org/
[04:41] <LinuxIST> ManualOverDozer8, but it does not work
[04:41] <ice109> just playing around with terminal
[04:41] <Flannel> mentat: either install kubuntu or ubuntu from the disk, then install the other's metapackage (ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop)
[04:42] <ListenToMyMusic> mentat: dont recomend it
[04:42] <td123> ice109: why don't you just use multiple xterm windows?
[04:42] <ice109> i am doing that right now
[04:42] <ice109> it just seems cumbersome
[04:42] <mentat> ListenToMyMusic: causes some problems?
[04:42] <ListenToMyMusic> mentat: try it with two seperate installations, my gnome got all cluttered when i had both installed
[04:42] <palomer> Flannel, I'm trying to add /usr/bin to my path in my makefile
[04:42] <Gillpy_> ice109: screen is what you are looking for
[04:42] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿LinuxIST yes i can see it may not work for you , i kept most all things default so those i would assume are modifications from default
[04:42] <mentat> so dal boot ?
[04:42] <palomer> Flannel, for some reason, the makefile doesn't use my environment
[04:42] <mentat> dual boot rather
[04:43] <td123> ice109: oh ok :) that clears up some confusion, keep poking around
[04:43] <Flannel> mentat: no.  Just have both DEs installed on the same install
[04:43] <slammed87d21> i need help with making my wireless work
[04:43] <ListenToMyMusic> mentat yeah, you can repartition during install
[04:43] <mentat> i got 2 people telling me 2 diff things lol
[04:43] <ListenToMyMusic> lol
[04:43] <ListenToMyMusic> whats the other saying?
[04:43] <Flannel> ListenToMyMusic, mentat: to clean up your menus (remove gnome entries from kde, and v.v.) use this: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/18/removing-kde-icons-in-gnome-remove-gnome-icons-in-kde/
[04:44] <slammed87d21> anyone?
[04:44] <Flannel> ListenToMyMusic: There's absolutely no reason to dual boot.
[04:44] <ListenToMyMusic> ok
[04:44] <ListenToMyMusic> do kde services run in gnome and v.v?
[04:44] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿slammed87d21 L has it ever worked ?
[04:44] <Flannel> ListenToMyMusic: services that start with the WM will only run with the WM they start with.
[04:44] <mentat> not sure lol
[04:45] <slammed87d21> not since i installed ubuntu
[04:45] <thinh> how do i fix firefox border with compiz and nvidia card
[04:45] <ListenToMyMusic> k
[04:45] <ice109> anyone know how to send the cursor to the beginning of the bash line with the keyboard other than the arrow keys
[04:45] <ice109> nm its home
[04:45] <td123> ice109: home button
[04:45] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿slammed87d21 do you use Network Manager ?
[04:45] <Gillpy_> Flannel: Are you sure about that?
[04:45] <jbroome> ctrl-a
[04:45] <yuji> ctrl a
[04:45] <adamfalkofske> ﻿could someone help me mount a sony memory stick duo on my HP laptop's internal reader?
[04:45] <slammed87d21> yes
[04:45] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿slammed87d21 how about anything else like command lines ?
[04:45] <Gillpy_> Flannel: I have run plenty of gnome stuff in other wm's
[04:45] <Flannel> Gillpy_: yes.  gnome-volume-manager for instance won't run unless gnome is running, etc.
[04:46] <slammed87d21> not really
[04:46] <Flannel> Gillpy_: When you load up the libraries, stuff changes.
[04:46] <mentat> i like KDE much better
[04:46] <Flannel> Gillpy_: But if you just have gnome and kde installed side by side, unless you ask them to, they won't step on each others toes
[04:46] <ListenToMyMusic> i thought kde added some stuff to the local boot scripts
[04:46] <ListenToMyMusic> damn my internets
[04:46] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿slammed87d21 open terminal and type sudo i
[04:46] <ice109> fluxbox is awesome
[04:46] <ice109> for those that don't already know
[04:47] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿slammed87d21 then type> iwconfig
[04:47] <graelb> Is there a way to get rid of the little gray boxes on the panels (expanded, hidable)?
[04:47] <slammed87d21> it said command not found
[04:47] <AeronTS> no one here knows how to install sdlmame?
[04:47] <ManualOverDozer8> tell me if everything looks correct
[04:47] <Flannel> slammed87d21: sudo iwconfig
[04:47] <td123> ice109: try awesomewm, ever hear of tiled wms?
[04:47] <jbroome> AeronTS: sudo apt-get install sdlmame
[04:47] <dubby> hey guys, after some reading, I am wondering why is it that there is no way to install the 32 bit java6 plugin through nspluginwrapper for the firefox on a 64 bit computer, or at least no ubuntu package that does so, the GCJ plugin works about 10% of the time and other then that does not work well.  I have also read that konquerer does not share the same problem.  Anyone who is knowledgable about this subject could you please respond?
[04:47] <ListenToMyMusic> mentat: it really is just an opinion thing, kde vs gnome
[04:48] <slammed87d21> actually, it says no wireless extensions
[04:48] <Flannel> dubby: What?
[04:48] <AeronTS> jbroome that's giving me errors :D
[04:48] <dubby> GCJ is bad
[04:48] <graelb> Is there a way to get rid of the little gray boxes on the panels (expanded, hidable)?
[04:48] <dubby> it doesn't work well, im using 64 bit
[04:49] <jbroome> AeronTS: then pastebinning the errors might be helpful to us
[04:49] <dubby> and there is no 64 bit sun-java6-plugin
[04:49] <dubby> only 32bit
[04:49] <ejer> dubby: i   ia32-sun-java6-bin              - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6
[04:49] <ejer> it is there
[04:49] <Ant1jr> Hello
[04:49] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿slammed87d21 go into Network Manager , double click on your netcard
[04:49] <Ant1jr> I am having problems with thinkfinger
[04:49] <dubby> ejer is the plugin within that ?
[04:49] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿slammed87d21 you have to make sure it is enabledd
[04:49] <Pelo> anyone know some test app to try out my new nvidia card , something that will show off what it can do ?
[04:50] <ejer> dubby: you set it as default vm
[04:50] <AeronTS> jbroome: i believe i pastedbinned the errors from when i tried to install sdlmame from the .deb -> http://pastebin.com/m94eefdb
[04:50] <slammed87d21> wheres that?
[04:50] <ListenToMyMusic> so anyone having trouble with restricted modules interfering with the nvidia drivers?
[04:50] <Gillpy_> Pelo: googleearth
[04:50] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿slammed87d21 then configure your information there, and make sure the little checkbox is checked to show it is enabled
[04:50] <Ant1jr> On my Thinkpad x61t thinkfinger tools gets stuck on "Initializing... Done." when trying to enroll a fingerprint
[04:50] <jcovert2> Pelo!  Hey it's me again - you said earlier  DISPLAY=:0 && firefox
[04:50] <jcovert2> what came before the DISPLAY?
[04:50] <Vlet> Hey, I'm trying to copy files from one directory to another but when I use "cp -ruv * /the/destination" it overwrites files that already exist when it is my understanding that the -u switch will only overwite if the mod date is older.... what gives?
[04:50] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿slammed87d21 System/Administration/Network
[04:50] <Gillpy_> Pelo: usually glxgears is used for this
[04:50] <jbroome> AeronTS: are you running gutsy or hardy?
[04:50] <ListenToMyMusic> if I have restricted modules installed I have to recompile the nvidia drivers on every boot
[04:51] <ice109> does anyone run fluxbox here?
[04:51] <AeronTS> jbroome: gutsy i believe
[04:51] <Pelo> jcovert2,  export DISPLAY=: ....
[04:51] <AeronTS> jbroome: and i downloaded the .deb for gutsy
[04:51] <jbroome> AeronTS: did you try installing from the repo before pulling down the deb
[04:51] <slammed87d21> its not showing a net card
[04:51] <jcovert2> Pelo:  Thanks again  :-D
[04:51] <Pelo> Gillpy_, thanks's I'll consider it
[04:51] <jbroome> meh, bedtime
[04:51] <Pelo> jcovert2, did it work ?
[04:51] <AeronTS> jbroome: nope
[04:51] <ManualOverDozer8> not good
[04:52] <selocol> in windows i can set a process as high or realtime; can i do that in ubuntu? if so, how? thanks
[04:52] <jcovert2> Pelo:  I had some trouble b/c I didn't have X installed - and I've had a hell of a time getting it installed
[04:52] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿slammed87d21 open Terminal and type> gksu lspci
[04:52] <ManualOverDozer8> tell me if you see it there
[04:52] <ejer> !nice | selocol
[04:53] <Pelo> selocol, investigate nice ,  it's the priority setting ,  lower number = more priority
[04:53] <jcovert2> Pelo:  (the machine I'm working on is gentoo, that's why it's tough..)
[04:53] <slammed87d21> ok
[04:53] <Flannel> selocol: see "nice"
[04:53] <Brymcon> ok ok my advanced compiz effects will not work I cannot enable normal or extra with hardy why?
[04:53] <selocol> Pelo, Flannel, ejer: thanks!
[04:53] <jcovert2> Pelo, I know it isn't a gentoo forum, but i like ubuntu friends better  :-)
[04:53] <Pelo> jcovert2, there is a gentoo channel
[04:53] <Pelo> jcovert2, beat me to it ,
[04:53] <Ant1jr> ﻿On my Thinkpad x61t thinkfinger tools gets stuck on "Initializing... Done." when trying to enroll a fingerprint
[04:54] <AeronTS> jbroome: did that pastebin url come up for you?
[04:54]  * Pelo and Flannel make this channel freindly
[04:54] <ejer> Ant1jr: http://www.krizka.net/2008/03/28/how-to-setup-fprint-for-fingerprint-authentication-on-ubuntu/
[04:54] <HappyHater> Brymcon, what graphics card?
[04:54] <Ant1jr> Ejer: Yeah, I followed that
[04:54] <Ant1jr> ejer: It isn't working, it gets stuck at that part
[04:55] <Ant1jr> ejer: for hours
[04:55] <jcovert2> Pelo:  I use ubuntu on all my other machines - some bozo chose gentoo for my work box, unfortunately
[04:55] <ejer> don't have one Ant1jr can't really help sorry
[04:55] <Ant1jr> ugh
[04:55] <Ant1jr> thanks
[04:55] <ejer> make sure you followed guide exactly Ant1jr
[04:55] <Pelo> jcovert2, don't stay stuff like that in here ,  the gentoo ppl have spies everywhere  :--)
[04:55] <Ant1jr> Yeah I did exactly
[04:56] <Flannel> Ant1jr: see http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_8.04_%28Hardy_Heron%29_on_an_X61_Tablet and http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Integrated_Fingerprint_Reader (actually, reverse the order of those two)
[04:57] <slammed87d21> so what do i do now?
[04:57] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿slammed87d21 did you see your network adapter there ?
[04:57] <slammed87d21> im not sure what it would be called
[04:57] <jatket> formal SATA under ubuntu 7.10?
[04:58] <jatket> format I mean
[04:58] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿slammed87d21 look for IEEE 802.11g
[04:58] <ManualOverDozer8> IEEE 802.11
[04:58] <msmarc> hey I'm having trouble logging into gdm it says it can't create directory in my /var folder anybody know what might be wrong?
[04:58] <ejer> iwconfig would do it too
[04:58] <slammed87d21> do you care if i pm you?
[04:59] <ManualOverDozer8> sure go ahead
[04:59] <ejer> msmarc: sounds like you have a wrong /home setup
[04:59] <AeronTS> jbroome do you not have experience troubleshooting installs from source?  that's the feeling i'm getting :)
[04:59] <jcovert2> Pelo: I just can't handle this emerge USE="blah blh" mozilla-firefox --check-deps --blahg lbalh  and then wait 20 minutes for it to compile
[04:59] <jcovert2> Pelo:  what garbage, how about apt-get install firefox
[04:59] <ejer> jcovert2: gentoo is great, just different
[04:59] <jatket> can ubuntu 8.10 co-exist with windows vista home version?
[05:00] <selocol> Is it safe to run an app with nice -19?
[05:00] <ejer> i run both gentoo and ubuntu
[05:00] <Brymcon> ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 (32MB)
[05:00] <ejer> jatket: yes
[05:00] <Gillpy_> jatket: yes, but you will need a DMZ partition between them
[05:00] <ejer> !dualboot | jatket
[05:00] <jatket> thanks
[05:00] <Zeroyez> Ok, tried apt-get autoremove openoffice.org but i'm afraid to say Y
[05:00] <Zeroyez> because it's listing things like libgnome and :S
[05:01] <ejer> Gillpy_: dmz partition ?
[05:01] <selocol> Zeroyez: autoremove removes stuff you don't need. go ahead and y
[05:01] <Gillpy_> ejer: demilitarized zone
[05:01] <ejer> i know what it means Gillpy_ why would you think you need that
[05:01] <Pelo> jcovert2, sorry I wasn'T paying attention,  what are you talking about ?
[05:01] <ejer> never even heard of that
[05:02] <Gillpy_> ejer: << joke >>
[05:02] <acrousey> hi, i'm still a little new to ubuntu and i am having problems file sharing between my mac and the ubuntu computer
[05:02] <Brymcon> ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 (32MB) any ideas happy hater?
[05:02] <ejer> Gillpy_: ah hope the newb got it
[05:02] <Zeroyez> wow i like this autoremove thing, wonder how small I can get ubuntu to go :)
[05:03] <HappyHater> Brymcon, I don't know jack about ati, make sure you have the right driver installed though
[05:03] <acrousey> can i make a public folder on ubuntu desktop?
[05:03] <Brymcon> everything ran smooth in feisty, how would i install the driver
[05:03] <Brymcon> ?
[05:04] <debian_akroyd> hi all
[05:04] <ejer> !ati | Brymcon
[05:04] <Brymcon> ok thanks
[05:04] <ejer> acrousey: to share with another machine?
[05:04] <acrousey> ejer: yeah
[05:05] <ejer> right click a folder and choose sharing options acrousey
[05:05] <acrousey> ejer: thanks
[05:05] <ejer> now that is easy!
[05:05] <Pelo> average 510 frames per second ? is that any good ?
[05:05] <acrousey> i didn't know it was quite that easy
[05:05] <acrousey> i was thinking that i woul have to go into network tools
[05:06] <ejer> they have worked hard to make it easy
[05:06] <debian_akroyd> Pelo, thats kind of slow
[05:06] <Bruno__Gaucho> clear
[05:06] <debian_akroyd> Pelo, how old is your video card?
[05:07] <fiendskull9> I just rebooted my Kubuntu box, and it is suddenly freezing at "Configuring network interfaces". And upon rebooting into recovery mode it freezes on "Setting up console font and keymap". Could somebody please help me with a solution (Im booted into a LiveCD right now)
[05:07] <Pelo> debian_akroyd, the card is new to me , probably refurbished,  supplied by assus as a free upgrade,   geforce 6800 512meg
[05:07] <debian_akroyd> Pelo, have you installed the nvidia drivers?
[05:08] <ejer> why does glxgears give me an error after running XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0"
[05:08] <Pelo> debian_akroyd, restricted , glx-new
[05:08] <ice109> does anyone know how i can get something similar to xterm -e with xfce4-terminal?
[05:08] <ejer> how r u guys getting framerates
[05:08] <debian_akroyd> ejer, by using glxgears
[05:08] <ejer> hmm mine is futzed
[05:08] <debian_akroyd> Pelo, you did use glxgears right?
[05:09] <Pelo> ejer, open terminal type glxgears ,  move the graphic windows so you can see the terminal
[05:09] <Pelo> dev_n00b, yes
[05:09] <debian_akroyd> futzed?
[05:09] <crdlb> Pelo: glxgears is useless as a benchmark
[05:09] <Pelo> debian_akroyd, yes
[05:09] <ejer> i know how to run glxgears, I get and X error instead of stats
[05:09] <Pelo> crdlb, can you recommend something ?
[05:09] <crdlb> Pelo: run 'glxinfo | grep direct' to see if 3d acceleration is enabled
[05:09] <debian_akroyd> Pelo, are you running any graphics apps in the background when running glxgears?
[05:09] <Pelo> crdlb, yes it is
[05:10] <Pelo> debian_akroyd, I have a movie in totem , but I paused it
[05:10] <ejer> http://pastebin.com/m285b244a glxgears output
[05:10] <debian_akroyd> ok so glxgears == usless
[05:10] <crdlb> Pelo: then it's working. If you want a real test, try a game (eg. quake3demo)
[05:10] <LapMag> I have a module loaded that needs to be removed. rmmod claims its in use but I can't find out what is using it. What's the command again? I tried fuser on the device but it didn't work
[05:11] <Flannel> debian_akroyd: Its an amusing toy/proof of concept, but not a benchmark
[05:11] <debian_akroyd> Flannel, true
[05:11] <Pelo> crdlb, I'm not much of a gamer I was originaly hoping for some demo that would just show it off , like fine hair blowing in the wind or some such nonsens
[05:11] <debian_akroyd> Flannel, wouldnt make for a bad screensaver though
[05:11] <ejer> there are gl screensavers
[05:11] <adamfalkofske> ﻿﻿could someone help me mount a sony memory stick duo on my HP laptop's internal reader?
[05:12] <glitsj16> ice109: try --command or --execute (file:///usr/share/doc/xfce4-terminal/html/C/advanced.html#command-line-options will give you some more info)
[05:12] <debian_akroyd> Pelo, you could just view some of the screensavers..they use opengl
[05:12] <debian_akroyd> the one i would try is skyrocket
[05:12]  * Pelo would love for someone to make a screensaver showing a wireframe chesterfield sofa being rotated around in a staircase
[05:12] <ejer> fave book
[05:13] <ejer> ciao all
[05:13]  * Pelo hands ejer  a cookie for having caugh the ref
[05:13] <Zeroyez> How can I check if my ubuntu installation is 32 bit or 64 bit? I can't remember which one I picked and I sure hope it's 64 bit
[05:14] <crdlb> Zeroyez: dpkg --print-architecture
[05:14] <Coiotes> What would be the quickest & easiest way to backup another Linux computer on my network?
[05:14] <Zeroyez> yay 64 :)
[05:14] <Zeroyez> thanks
[05:14] <Flannel> !backup | Coiotes
[05:14] <Pelo> Coiotes, rsync probably
[05:15] <Gman99999> is there a program for linux that lets you choose any sort of compression that you wish ?  or is it all just some crappy bs that sticks it into an archive without letting you choose any compression level or method?
[05:15] <Fuxxor> hey im trying to install drivers for my networked brother fax 4100 printer, can anyone help
[05:15] <Pelo> Gman99999, do a search in synaptic for archive
[05:16] <Pelo> Fuxxor, the ones from cups not working for you ?
[05:16] <Gman99999> pelo ive got an archive manager it sucks, it doesnt let you do anything
[05:16] <BigBuddha> how do i see all installed apps in the term?
[05:16] <Fuxxor> pelo, what cups?
[05:16] <bderrly> Gman99999, what are you trying to do?
[05:16] <Pelo> Fuxxor, the printer manager,   look in system > admin > printer,
[05:16] <debian_akroyd> Fuxxor, cups = common unix printing system
[05:17] <debian_akroyd> !cups | Fuxxor
[05:17] <viper> Hi I have installed ubuntu on 2 machines. my wife and mine ver 8.04 wife is loving it but she wants to access my printer that is on my machine. how do I network the 2 boxes to share the printer (and files)? i am familiar with windows networking but not ubuntu.
[05:17] <Fuxxor> Pelo, debian_akroyd , how do I install those drivers?
[05:17] <Gman99999> Im wanting to compress a music file to a very small size hopefully in a self extracting archive but if not in a zip format then i wish to send that compressed music file im an email since its too big as it is right now
[05:17] <BigBuddha> how do i see all installed apps in the terminal?
[05:17] <ushimitsudoki> I just opened up Rhythmbox and there is a "Me's LimeWire Tunes" in the Shared section. I did not create this share. How should I start investigating what it going on here?
[05:17] <Gonzalo> Hi, I need to know how can I do to kill a process when I log out of an Ubuntu System. Thanks.
[05:17] <debian_akroyd> Fuxxor, did you visit the link supplied by ubottu
[05:18] <bderrly> Gman99999, do you have a preference for compression? i don't know of a "self-extracting" compression, though gzip or bzip will probably work, or you can use zip
[05:18] <Pelo> Fuxxor, you just select add a new printer from the printer manager in the admin menu,  easy enough just follow the dialog box
[05:18] <debian_akroyd> Gonzalo, well..you can either switch into a different tty console then run (sudo) kill [pid] or (sudo) killall [process name]
[05:19] <viper> i have my canon printer installed and working on my machine I just need to share it with my wifes machine
[05:19] <Pelo> debian_akroyd, what FPS should I be hoping for ? i'll run glxgears later when I have all the other stuff closed down ?
[05:19] <crdlb> viper: for printing, you want to configure cups to IPP (Internet Printing Protocol)
[05:19] <Gman99999> bderryl right now i just want a decent amount of compression, the file is 15.7 megs i want to bring that down small enough to email
[05:19] <debian_akroyd> Pelo, i usually get around 1000 fps on my 128, so _maybe_ 4 times that?
[05:19] <bderrly> Gman99999, try bzip2
[05:20] <Gman99999> bderryl also Im sending it to a windows newb so it can't be a format that windows doesnt understand
[05:20] <debian_akroyd> sadly 128 is the highest i have
[05:20] <Gillpy_> Gman99999: best compression is with bzip2 --best
[05:20] <bderrly> you should be able to use that with the default archive manager that comes with gnome
[05:20] <Gonzalo> debian_akroy, thanks, but what I need is that the process is killed automatically when I log out in Gnome.
[05:20] <Pelo> Gman99999, compression is highly dependent on the type of file,  data base and spread sheats compress a lot,   video and images don'T compress so much, video actualy almost not at all,  avi is already a compressed format
[05:20] <Pelo> debian_akroyd, thanks
[05:20] <debian_akroyd> Gonzalo, well what process are you trying to kill?
[05:20] <Gman99999> thanks pelo
[05:21] <Gman99999> pelo its wma its a voice recording
[05:21] <face-shot> where can I edit pre-login visual (i.e., screen dimming, etc.) preferences?
[05:21] <Gonzalo> a bash script that takes screen shots of the user desktop  in an interval of 1 second, and that starts working when the user logs in.
[05:21] <Zeroyez> ok this might not be related to anything but firefox isn't showing the "install missing plugins" thing when I go to a site to install flash player
[05:21] <Gman99999> bderryl where can i get bzip2 and does it have a gui?
[05:22] <Zeroyez> and i tried to install it manually but i get filled up with missing glibc messages
[05:22] <debian_akroyd> Gman99999, bzip comes preinstalled with ubuntu
[05:22] <charlottesmith> Hi all.
[05:22] <adamfalkofske> hey, everyone. would someone help me mount a memory stick duo pro using my laptop's card reader?
[05:22] <debian_akroyd> Gman99999, ok take that back
[05:22] <FAJALOU> what is the base size for the root partition, and also for a home partition:  ie how big should they be?
[05:22] <Pelo> Gman99999, don'T expect much compression
[05:23] <debian_akroyd> Gman99999, it comes preinstalled with ubuntu.
[05:23] <charlottesmith> Anyone here running ubuntu on a mac?
[05:23] <bderrly> Gman99999, bzip2 comes installed by default, but as pelo said, you won't get much compression probably
[05:23] <msmarc> im on a mac
[05:23] <neon> is there anything on ubuntu like "memories on tv"  thanks
[05:23] <charlottesmith> I've been encountering this weird bug.
[05:23] <crdlb> viper: Here's a guide on the ubuntu wiki (which seems to be down at the moment) http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:yqVroZhcidoJ:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu+cups+ubuntu+IPP+guide&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us&client=safari
[05:24] <face-shot> does anyone else's "Disk Usage Analyzer" show a false (about 2x more than it is) filesystem capacity? If so, is there a fix?
[05:24] <charlottesmith> The battery indicator in ubuntu stops working.
[05:24] <Gman99999> cool
[05:24] <charlottesmith> The physical indicator is fine.
[05:24] <charlottesmith> It seems to come off and on randomly.
[05:24] <FAJALOU> face-shot:  it did something like this for me too. quite funny isn't it :P
[05:24] <casemods> hi, just got unbuntu installed, need help with xfire, games, and other stuff - any help/
[05:24] <Pelo> bderrly, I meant because it's a wma file , already a compressed format,  he would get decent compression out of a .wav but for the same content the wav would already be about 10 times the size of a wma
[05:24] <face-shot> yeah, I thought I got a free over-night upgrade
[05:24] <face-shot> lmao
[05:24] <FAJALOU> !ask | casemods
[05:24] <casemods> !ask
[05:24] <charlottesmith> Anyone have this problem?
[05:25] <Gman99999> Thanks Everyone
[05:25] <charlottesmith> I can't seem to find any mention of this elsewhere.
[05:25] <casemods> ok well I want to run xfire, steam, and some games on ubuntu
[05:25] <face-shot> FAJALOU, so is this an unresolved bug?
[05:25] <bderrly> Gman99999, good luck
[05:25] <Gman99999> Very Grateful and have a great night
[05:25] <FAJALOU> face-shot:  i don't know, i personally have never actually used it for technical purposes
[05:25] <Gonzalo> debian_akroy, a bash script that takes screen shots of the user desktop  in an interval of 1 second, and that starts working when the user logs in.
[05:25] <debian_akroyd> do they have xfire for linux? i dont recall seeing it
[05:25] <face-shot> Steam runs on linux?!
[05:25] <debian_akroyd> you may have to run xfire with wine
[05:26] <casemods> what's wine?
[05:26] <face-shot> "WINE Is Not An Emulator"
[05:26] <ManualOverDozer8> !wine
[05:26] <face-shot> allows you to run win32 apps
[05:26] <ManualOverDozer8> !info wine
[05:26] <msmarc> i got the error message '/var/lib/gdm' does not belong to the user your are creating' when trying to install gdm does my /var folder have to be owned by <user> not root?
[05:26] <neon> wine is an emu
[05:26] <msmarc> cd /
[05:27] <debian_akroyd> Gonzalo, well since theres no desktop running when you log out, it probably kills it then..but you can always switch into a different tty console and run top to see if its there when you log out
[05:27] <Vampy> any one know how to map a drive from a windows os to ubuntu?
[05:27] <casemods> so i should be able to run steam/xfire/ games with wine?
[05:27] <dr_Willis> Vampy,  you can browse and mount windows 'shares' using  the gnome file manager, or other ways.
[05:27] <Tim> Hi. I'm trying to get my desktop back after accidentally losing it when uninsyalling / re-installing ALSA
[05:28] <Vampy> gnome file manager.. lemme try that first
[05:28] <face-shot> where can I edit pre-login visual (i.e., screen dimming, etc.) preferences?
[05:28] <Gonzalo> debian_akroyd, exactly, when the desktop is not running and I log out into another user session, the process still running (it is nos killed)
[05:28] <casemods> one last question, how do i install things?
[05:28] <bderrly> Tim, you shouldn't have lost your desktop from uninstalling alsa...
[05:28] <adamfalkofske> crimsun: could you help me enable sound in flash videos in firefox?
[05:28] <Tim> But the archives can't be fetched : 'Could not resolve archive.ubuntu.com'
[05:29] <Zeroyez> I just asked the same question >.<
[05:29] <debian_akroyd> Gonzalo, so if you want to kill it, then run (sudo) kill [pid] or (sudo) killall [process name]
[05:29] <Vampy> where would i find the gnome file manager
[05:29] <Tim> bderrly: Well, when I boot now I just get CLI
[05:29] <Urbandale> alright people, im in a pickle here. it involves installing Ubuntu on a laptop that had Vista preinstalled. i was lazy, and i downloaded the new iso, mounted, and thought, what the hell, ill let it auto-run to see if they've made a new dialogue box. in mid install, my laptop's power went out. i rebooted, and it had vista's grub saying that Ubuntu was partioned, but i cannot boot into it. it says that its missing files. i also cant see the p
[05:29] <Urbandale> and sorry for the block of text
[05:29] <bderrly> Tim, that isn't an alsa issue, are you getting an error?
[05:29] <j> Hi , how can i configure my ubuntu to remote desktop?
[05:29] <Zeroyez> I find it terrible how they removed the "install missing plugins" thing from firefox in ubuntu 8.04
[05:29] <neon> casemods: use wine-doors
[05:29] <Zeroyez> I need it back :(
[05:29] <dr_Willis> Vampy,  its the default file manager you are using,. if you are using ubuntu. Theres some 'network' location you use to see the various windows network/shares.
[05:29] <Guest49186> or set to remote desktop  to able to use it at my work place?
[05:30] <debian_akroyd> Urbandale, vista has a problem when booting linux from vista boot loader ... no matter how good the install went
[05:30] <Tim> bderrly: Let me reboot laptop and I'll tell you. One sec.
[05:30] <casemods> how do i install wine??
[05:30] <neon> casemods: use wine-doors
[05:30] <bravo> Hi , how can i configure my ubuntu to remote desktop?
[05:30] <debian_akroyd> Urbandale, just install ubuntu again..it will make it so that it loads grub first instead of vistas boot loader
[05:30] <Urbandale> so if im running vista, im plum out of luck?
[05:30] <dr_Willis> !wine | casemods
[05:30] <debian_akroyd> Urbandale, not exactly...reboot and reinstall ubuntu
[05:30] <Urbandale> i cannot install it again. it cannot boot from cd for some reson
[05:30] <Vampy> ok.. so when i open the file manager and point to the folder i wish to share between ubuntu and windows.. what would the next step be
[05:31] <debian_akroyd> Urbandale, it will install grub, which will detect vista
[05:31] <neon> casemods: your best bet is to use wine-doors it has the steam engine on it so you can install it
[05:31] <casemods> I'm so new to ubuntu...how do I do all of this?
[05:31] <Gonzalo> debian_akroyd, what I am searching is where I have to run the kill or the killall command, so that these commands run automatically when I log out.
[05:31] <casemods> I mean like what file?
[05:31] <dr_Willis> Vampy,  you sort of just asked a different thing. :)  The gnome file manager can access shares on the windows box.  as for shareing directories to the windows machine. I always install samba, and configure it manually. Theres proberly some gnome gui tools to do it. But ive never used them,
[05:32] <Tim> bderrly: First error is kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot.
[05:32] <casemods> I'm used to executables
[05:32] <bderrly> Tim, don't worry about that
[05:32] <Zeroyez> Why does the search field on the ubuntu 8.04 start page go to the uk version of google instead of going to google.com and having google.com auto direct them to the right country
[05:32] <debian_akroyd> Gonzalo, sorry im not too familiar with that..you would have to ask around
[05:32] <DysfunXionaL> casemods: System>Synaptic Package Manager>
[05:33] <Tim> bderrly: OK :)
[05:33] <debian_akroyd> Gonzalo, or possibly do a google search
[05:33] <Urbandale> how do i install ubuntu if i cannot boot from CD?
[05:33] <Tim> bderrly: What next?
[05:33] <Urbandale> thats my main issue now, i suppose
[05:33] <Gonzalo> debian_akroyd, ok, thanks anyway for your time
[05:33] <debian_akroyd> Urbandale, can you get into windows?
[05:33] <Urbandale> yes
[05:33] <DysfunXionaL> casemods: search Wine, check it, it should install itself
[05:33] <dobblego> how do I add/delete entries under "Places" in the GNOME toolbar
[05:33] <debian_akroyd> Urbandale, and you did burn the cd correct?
[05:34] <Cazz2> Hey I tried to follow this guide on uh, wpa_supplicant and there was no config file where it said there was (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo#WPA%20Supplicant) and I need to connect it to the internet via wireless.
[05:34] <Urbandale> no, its the actual CD from canonical
[05:34] <bderrly> Tim, does gdm attempt to run and fail or does it just load to cli and stop?
[05:34] <dr_Willis> dobblego,  open the file manager, ya see them on the left side panel, try dragging new places there, or right click/deleting the old ones.
[05:34] <debian_akroyd> Urbandale, can your computer boot to cds?
[05:34] <dobblego> dr_Willis, ah cheers
[05:34] <Cazz2> and dobblego; Go to System > Preferences > Menu
[05:35] <Urbandale> it comes with a vista disk in case the shit hits the fan, so i suppose so. i would check, but i cant now :P
[05:35] <Tim> bderrly: Not sure. Looks like CLI.
[05:35] <Tim> bderrly: Sorry to be so vague.
[05:35] <casemods> !file roler
[05:35] <debian_akroyd> Urbandale, well, if you can, boot to the cd, then run the install from the cd...do you want to dual boot ubuntu with vista?
[05:35] <bravo> I need help setting up remote desktop
[05:35] <bderrly> Tim, this is a newish ubuntu install?
[05:36] <Cazz2> Can anyone help me connect my Ubuntu Server 8.04 LTS to the internet? I use a Linksys card.
[05:36] <casemods> !file roller
[05:36] <debian_akroyd> !fileroller
[05:36] <debian_akroyd> !!!
[05:36] <morrison> hola
[05:36] <casemods> o_0
[05:36] <bderrly> !archive manager
[05:36] <bderrly> meh
[05:36] <Tim> bderrly: Not really. The last thing I did was uninstall and re-install ALSA.
[05:36] <adamfalkofske> nevermind, i got the sound on flash videos in firefox to work
[05:36] <debian_akroyd> Cazz2, what linksys card are you using? i need the model number
[05:36] <bderrly> Tim, so previously it booted into the gui though?
[05:36] <Cazz2> Aye, I'll go open it up and check.
[05:37] <morrison> -.-
[05:37] <Tim> bderrly: Correct.
[05:37] <glitsj16> !file-roller
[05:37] <bderrly> casemods, you really don't need to do that
[05:37] <bderrly> Cazz2, you really don't need to do that
[05:37] <bderrly> casemods, ignore that last message to you ;)
[05:37] <casemods> ok
[05:38] <Urbandale> debian, i cant. is there a way to edit the current Windows' GRUB screen? or at least make it so Ubuntu is no longer detected? i cant find a single Ubuntu file installed on here anyway, so i dont think it did anything more than start to partition
[05:38] <bderrly> Tim, login and run `sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start`
[05:38] <Cazz2> debian_akroyd: Linksys, Wireless-G, Model No.: WMP54G
[05:38] <casemods> can anyone tell me what to do with tar.gz archives?
[05:38] <Cazz2> casemods; You untar them.
[05:39] <Tim> bderrly: OK. One sec
[05:39] <debian_akroyd> Cazz2, ive heard some cases where people had to use the ndiswrapper to get it to work.
[05:39] <casemods> meaning?
[05:39] <Gillpy_> casemods: tar xzf foobar.tar.gz
[05:39] <Cazz2> casemods; Type tar -xvf <file>.tar.gz
[05:39] <DysfunXionaL> bravo, what OS are you trying to connect to??
[05:39] <casemods> where?
[05:39] <glitsj16> casemods: http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/ offers a nice overview on those kind of topics
[05:40] <Urbandale> in console
[05:40] <Cazz2> debian_akroyd; Can you find me a tutorial on ndiswrapper?
[05:40] <debian_akroyd> Urbandale, well..um...there is..but its extremely complicated (Thanks microsoft) and i dont even bother with it..what i would do in your case, if you want ubuntu, i would install it via wubi
[05:40] <Cazz2> !ndiswrapper
[05:40] <face-shot> where can I edit pre-login visual (i.e., screen dimming, etc.) preferences?
[05:40] <bravo> DysfunXionaL ubuntu to xp
[05:40] <debian_akroyd> Cazz2, they have tutorials on the ndiswrapper site
[05:40] <bravo> but from work place
[05:40] <debian_akroyd> !ndiswrapper
[05:40] <debian_akroyd> wow ubottu is creaping
[05:40] <Tim> bderrly: It didn't like that command.
[05:41] <debian_akroyd> !ndiswrapper
[05:41] <Tim> bderrly: let me chk syntax
[05:41] <debian_akroyd> Cazz2, ^^
[05:41] <Urbandale> debian, ill go check it out. thanks :)
[05:42] <Tim> bderrly: "command not found"
[05:42] <morrison> hi
[05:43] <morrison> -.-
[05:43] <Cazz2> debian_akroyd: Just wondering, is it possible that it works with Ubuntu Desktop but not Ubuntu Server?
[05:43] <bderrly> Tim, ?? sudo wasn't found?
[05:43] <Cazz2> Because I previously had desktop running and it works fine.
[05:44] <morrison> -.-
[05:44] <Tim> bderrly; I can use sudo ok. Was that syntax correct?
[05:44] <Cazz2> Is it possible that it works with Ubuntu Desktop but not Ubuntu Server?
[05:44] <Cazz2> er
[05:44] <Carbon_life> Cazz2: I didn't see what you said, but it is possible for Ubuntu Desktop to run a program but not the server, because the server doesn't load any graphical libs, etc
[05:44] <DysfunXionaL> bravo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42941&highlight=remote+desktop+xp  | can walk you through the process
[05:44] <Cazz2> lemme finish
[05:45] <Cazz2> Is it possible that my linksys driver could work on desktop but not server?
[05:45] <Tim> bderrly: sudo: /etc/init.d/gdn: command not found
[05:45] <Tim> gdm
[05:45] <bderrly> heh, yup
[05:45] <Cazz2> I had desktop running but I'm not sure what to do now since server is installed, people have told me to use ndiswrapper.
[05:45] <Cazz2> Should I?
[05:46] <wakidi> baby_boys
[05:46] <Cazz2> Carbon_life;
[05:46] <bravo> DysfunXionaL ubuntu to xp , from home to work place
[05:46] <Tim> bderrly: Presumably, that should start gdm?
[05:46] <Cazz2> ^
[05:46] <bderrly> Tim, ls /etc/init.d/
[05:46] <bderrly> Tim, yes
[05:46] <Tim> bderlly: OK
[05:46] <bderrly> see if there is a gdm file listed
[05:46] <Oponium> Hi all.
[05:46] <bderrly> heh, people need to learn to use tab completion
[05:46] <Oponium> Is there an Ubuntu Gamers IRC channel?
[05:47] <Tim> bderrly: gdm is not listed :(
[05:47] <Vampy> how can i figure out which desktop systems i have installed?
[05:47] <itai-michaelson> Can I make an application display in Chinese even though I'm running an English session?
[05:47] <bderrly> Tim, sounds like it was uninstalled or you have kdm or xdm installed
[05:48] <l0fls> VAMPY system>help
[05:48] <Tim> bderrly: I think it was uninstalled.
[05:48] <bravo> DysfunXionaL  thx
[05:48] <bderrly> Tim, dpkg -l '?dm'
[05:48] <DysfunXionaL> bravo, if that howto doesn't do the trick, then i can't help
[05:48] <Cazz2> Is it possible that my linksys driver could work on desktop but not server?
[05:48] <DysfunXionaL> bravo, np
[05:48] <bderrly> there should be an 'ii' at the beginning of the line listing gdm
[05:48] <Tim> bderrly: OK, one sec.
[05:49] <morrison> -.-
[05:49] <Zeroyez> How do I install .deb packages?
[05:49] <l0fls> penis :)
[05:49] <Zeroyez> that can't possibly be how :|
[05:49] <wakidi_> pati
[05:49] <l0fls> lol
[05:49] <HappyHater> with gdebi or dpkg -i
[05:49] <bderrly> Zeroyez, dpkg -i foo.deb
[05:49] <Zeroyez> ah thank you
[05:49] <Sanctusorium> Hey ya all.  I am trying to create a screen cast, but when ever I do, I get really choppy video and flickering when i go into 3D mode with compiz.  Anyone know whats up?
[05:50] <Tim> bderrly: OK, done that.
[05:50] <slammed87d21> can someone help me with a tar.gz file?
[05:50] <bderrly> Tim, and?
[05:50] <casemods> when i try to download winedoors for ubuntu, it opens up a bunch of chracters in the tab
[05:51] <bderrly> slammed87d21, tar -zxf file.tar.gz to decompressed / untar it
[05:51] <Tim> bderrly: Sorry, "pn gdm" ?
[05:51] <bderrly> crazy how many people are needing help with .tar.gz files...
[05:51] <bderrly> Tim, that means purge
[05:51] <bderrly> so something went crazy ;)
[05:51] <itai-michaelson> How do I start an application in a different language? is it possible?
[05:51] <bderrly> `sudo apt-get install gdm`
[05:52] <Tim> bderrly: OK
[05:52] <Amun> whats the best dvd-ripping app there is that does exactly what dvdshrink does (give or take a few options. but mainly turning a dvd9 into a dvd5) ? k9copy doesnt seem to work right (at all, really. doesnt decrypt the video, or maybe its just the decoding codec used)
[05:53] <Tim> bderrly: "failed to fetch (Could not resolve 'archive.ubuntu.com')
[05:53] <greg__> can someone please tell me how to restore dragging windows?
[05:54] <bderrly> Tim, plugged into the network?
[05:54] <Tim> bderrly: I have a CDR with Hardy on. Would that help?
[05:54] <Zeroyez> Unable to find a precompiled module for the current kernel! when trying to install virtualbox .deb package
[05:54] <Zeroyez> How can I fix this?
[05:54] <HappyHater> greg__, the window borders disappear?
[05:54] <epipyhte> LOL HY
[05:54] <Tim> bderrly: Yes, networks OK - it tries to d/load packages.
[05:54] <Oponium> Hi!
[05:55] <epipyhte> HOW TO DOWNLOAD FAST
[05:55] <invisibleprison> Can someone please help? I have never had this problem with any other audio, but on the site I am trying to play audio on, the audio is playing way too fast.
[05:55] <greg__> no, i just cant grab the open windows and drag them like i used to.
[05:55] <Zeroyez> nevermind lol...I just needed to press next
[05:55] <Oponium> Should I make an Ubuntu Gaming live cd (would be better for speed), or should I just create a metapackage?
[05:55] <Liquid_life> is it possible for localhost to be refusing connections
[05:55] <bderrly> Tim, the cd should have gdm on it, yes
[05:55] <wols_> Liquid_life: of course
[05:55] <bderrly> but the cd needs to still be in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[05:55] <Tim> bderrly: Let me doublecheck network by pinging.
[05:56] <Tim> bderrly: not sure how to access CD from CLI.
[05:56] <Bahaa> hi , a small help please
[05:56] <Liquid_life> wols_: I seem to have that problem... I'm attempting to create an ssh tunnel and use it for firefox
[05:56] <epipyhte> IS IT TRUE THAT FULL VERSION LINUX IS BASICALLY FREE
[05:56] <Liquid_life> wols_: is there a shortlist to check
[05:56] <slammed87d21> advice on installing madwifi-0/9.4.tar.gz
[05:56] <slammed87d21> ?
[05:56] <Bahaa> yeah [epipyhte]
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> epipyhte: Please, hold the caps.  Yes, Ubuntu is free.
[05:57] <epipyhte> ok
[05:57] <kushalsejwal> Greetings everyone, Anyone knows what ttys are ???
[05:57] <Liquid_life> slammed87d21: should be a INSTALL or README file inside the tarball
[05:57] <epipyhte> how come its free
[05:57] <epipyhte> which company makes ubuntu
[05:57] <Starnestommy> kushalsejwal: a terminal or console
[05:57] <bderrly> kushalsejwal, terminal
[05:57] <tonyyarusso> Tim: apt-cdrom will add it, and then apt-get as usual.
[05:57] <xynthpop> microsoft epi
[05:57] <glitsj16> Amun: k9copy works just fine usually .. you say it doesn't work at all, do you have libdvdcss2 installed ?
[05:57] <epipyhte> also, ur not allowed to sell ubuntu CDs???
[05:57] <Bahaa> looooooooool
[05:57] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿Liquid_life he is new , and i am no good at compiling from tar.gz
[05:57] <slammed87d21> theres just a text file labeled install
[05:57] <epipyhte> is that true? because i see linux and other CDs ubuntu etc. on ebay all the time
[05:57] <ubuntugeek> do you cpy Paul
[05:57] <kushalsejwal> Starnestommy: bderrly: I read it somewhere "Ubuntu comes with 6 ttys enabled. You usually don't need more than 1 tty at a time. To disable tty2 to tty6:"
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> epipyhte: No company - Ubuntu is a community-developed distribution.  Canonical is the primary corporate sponsor.
[05:58] <Bahaa> [epipyhte] its an opensource OS
[05:58] <Tim> tonyyarusso: will try thx
[05:58] <Sanctusorium> Hey ya all.  I am trying to create a screen cast, but when ever I do, I get really choppy video and flickering when i go into 3D mode with compiz.  Anyone know whats up?
[05:58] <kushalsejwal> so I did tha same will it create any problem
[05:58] <kushalsejwal> ??
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> epipyhte: Yes, you can sell Ubuntu CDs.
[05:58] <itai-michaelson> how do i find the path for a launcher ? i want to launch open office
[05:58] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿Liquid_life he has all the files and madwifi-tools installed but the tar.gz it would take me forever to help with
[05:58] <Liquid_life> slammed87d21: usually ./configure ; make ; sudo make install
[05:58] <Starnestommy> kushalsejwal: those are the consoles/terminals that you can usually get to with ctrl+alt+f[1-6]
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> epipyhte: Best Buy is currently doing so, in fact.
[05:58] <Bahaa> how can I install new fonts to ubuntu ??????
[05:58] <epipyhte> i want to become a hacker
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> !fonts | Bahaa
[05:58] <Liquid_life> wols_: any ideas?
[05:58] <Bahaa> Thank You
[05:59] <bderrly> Tim, did you catch the apt-cdrom bit?
[05:59] <kushalsejwal> Starnestommy: I have disable ttys2-6 would that create any problem???
[05:59] <Starnestommy> kushalsejwal: you would only have one tty in the event that you can't use the graphical environment
[05:59] <morrison> hi
[05:59] <slammed87d21> it says no target specified
[06:00] <Tim> tonyyarusso: Which option should I use with apt-cdrom?
[06:00] <epipyhte> how to become hacker
[06:00] <bderrly> kushalsejwal, is there any reason you want/need to do that?
[06:00] <Sanctusorium> :(  No one?
[06:00] <Sanctusorium> Ah well, no biggie =p
[06:00] <epipyhte> HI HOW TO BECOME HACKER
[06:00] <Liquid_life> epipyhte: google
[06:00] <Tim> bderrly: Sorry, missed your msg. Been up all night (now dawn here in London)
[06:00] <bderrly> Tim, looks like -d /dev/cdrom would do the trick
[06:01] <epipyhte> Liquid_life: not funny
[06:01] <kushalsejwal> bderrly: I was reading a blog for increasing Ubuntu speed. it was written "Ubuntu comes with 6 ttys enabled. You usually don't need more than 1 tty at a time. To disable tty2 to tty6:"
[06:01] <Liquid_life> epipyhte: you can start by hacking 127.0.0.1
[06:01] <Tim> bderrly: Will try that.
[06:01] <epipyhte> k. now we're talking
[06:01] <bderrly> kushalsejwal, you won't be speeding your system up by doing htat
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> Tim: I think it's just like 'apt-cdrom add', but check the man page to confirm.
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> !contribute | epipyhte
[06:01] <epipyhte> that's an IP address, basically
[06:01] <epipyhte> how to start
[06:01] <bderrly> ugh
[06:01] <bderrly> why are you guys contributing to the delinquincy of a troll?
[06:02] <bderrly> i know i didn't spell that correctly...
[06:02] <slammed87d21> ./configure ; make ;sudo make install
[06:02] <slammed87d21> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[06:02] <slammed87d21> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[06:02] <slammed87d21>        so what am i doing wrong?
[06:02]  * bderrly heads off to the dictionary
[06:02] <Liquid_life> !pastebin | slammed87d21
[06:02] <kushalsejwal>  bderrly: Yes, I agree rather ironially my internet speed has decreased thats the reason I asked you guys. I hope disabling ttys 2-6 didnt had any effect on my internet speed?? does it??
[06:02] <bderrly> kushalsejwal, no
[06:02] <bderrly> it would have zero effect on your internet speed
[06:02] <Liquid_life> slammed87d21: check the INSTALL or README file
[06:03] <Liquid_life> slammed87d21: I can't tell you more without seeing the tarball myself
[06:03] <epipyhte> i like pasteplace.net its bettar than pastebin -- not so many  popupz
[06:03] <bderrly> delinquency
[06:03] <Johnny> how do i make it so flashkiller will load youtube videos without me having to click them
[06:03] <epipyhte> thats like credit card fags... can't pay it off... deliquent
[06:03] <invisibleprison>  Can someone please help? I have never had this problem with any other audio, but on the site I am trying to play audio on, the audio is playing way too fast.
[06:04] <epipyhte> so
[06:04] <epipyhte> anyways
[06:04] <epipyhte> how to become hacker
[06:04] <bderrly> ahh, /ignore how i love thee
[06:04] <kushalsejwal> bderrly: I am having a very strange problem, pls go thru if you can help "Whenever, I am installing/downloading any software or even updating ubuntu "hardy" I cannot surf internet, not a single site opens, all my downloads in torrent or otherwise goes 0 kbps/s. And the moment the software is downloaded, internet start working again."
[06:04] <Tim> bderrly: Getting error "Unable to stat the mount point ..... (not a directory)
[06:05] <bderrly> Tim, try -d /media/cdrom
[06:05] <epipyhte> HI HOW TO HACK
[06:05] <slammed87d21> if anyone can help me install this since im new, please pm me
[06:05] <epipyhte> slammed87d21: i can.
[06:05] <bderrly> or just leave off the -d and try `apt-cdrom add`
[06:05] <Tim> bderrly: OK
[06:05] <invisibleprison> Is there a way to change system audio speed?
[06:06] <epipyhte> invisibleprison: no there's no way to do that. you're sol
[06:06] <bderrly> kushalsejwal, what connection speed do you have? sounds like you're maxing it out when updating
[06:06] <l0fls> my terminal is asking me if im root when i try to install stuff any sugjestions
[06:06] <bderrly> invisibleprison, not that i know of, it is usually application specific
[06:06] <bderrly> l0fls, use sudo
[06:06] <bderrly> !sudo | l0fls
[06:06] <FAJALOU> my friend is having troubles with gparted; it's not letting him create more than 4 primary partition: but he only wants linux-swap as one of them... any helP
[06:07] <invisibleprison> epipyhte: This is not the appropriate channel to be asking about hacking.
[06:07] <kushalsejwal> bderrly: I have 200 + kbps speed
[06:07] <snarkster> hi guys I need some help with grub
[06:07] <snarkster> !grub
[06:07] <invisibleprison> bderrly: What if it's on a web page? lol
[06:07] <FAJALOU> !ask | snarkster
[06:07] <bderrly> FAJALOU, you can only have four primary, you need to make one of the primaries house extended partitions
[06:07] <l0fls> thanks that worked :)
[06:07] <epipyhte> l0fls: login into your root account, delete ubuntu and install windows. you can download windows from www.google.com using the search terms "free hax0rred wind0ze d0wnl0ad CrAckZ!!!1111 "
[06:07] <DysfunXionaL> l0fls.:: 'sudo -i' then install under root
[06:07] <itai-michaelson> FAJALOU, how many partitions are there? 4 is the max
[06:07] <bderrly> invisibleprison, then it is using hte gstreamer (i think) module...not sure about that...
[06:08] <[[cOuWo_fZz]]> nick Co-26_salesman_ajah
[06:08] <epipyhte> also, try www.apple.com i heard their BETTAR
[06:08] <FAJALOU> itai-michaelson:  even if one is swap? and so how should i go around making one root one home, and one swap... should i use an extended partition?
[06:08] <invisibleprison> bderrly... do you know how I would change the gstreamer settings? at least as a temp fix... assuming that's the problem
[06:08] <bderrly> kushalsejwal, i'm not sure what to tell you, it sounds like a network issue more than anything
[06:08] <dropknee> #freenode
[06:08] <Tim> bderry: it's reading the CD OK but can't open file /var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu (etc, etc) 13 Permission Denied
[06:09] <bderrly> invisibleprison, probably in gconf
[06:09] <itai-michaelson> FAJALOU, yes, basically you cant have more than 4 even if one is swap , but you can make the swap a logical partition
[06:09] <bderrly> Tim, run apt-cdrom with sudo
[06:09] <invisibleprison> bderry, I'll look. Thanks
[06:09] <dfgas> do i have to put a use in a certain group to use a webcam? cause in order for zoneminder to use my webcam i have to chmod 777 /dev/video0
[06:09] <Tim> bderrly: OK
[06:09] <kushalsejwal>  bderrly: okay, I will contact my ISP
[06:09] <kushalsejwal> :(
[06:09] <FAJALOU> itai-michaelson: how so?  should i make one partition an extended partition, and have 3 logical partitions inside of that?
[06:09] <epipyhte> GO TO WWW.WINDOWS.COM
[06:10] <epipyhte> FOR ENLIGHTENMENT.
[06:10] <itai-michaelson> FAJALOU, can u 1.windows 2. root 3. home 4. swap?
[06:10] <bderrly> kushalsejwal, i'm not sure that that will get you anywhere ;)
[06:10] <itai-michaelson> how many windows partitions are thre?
[06:10] <epipyhte> LOL@LUNIX LOL@OPEN SOREZ. WHATTA FAILURE L0L LUNIX DID WTC. LOL LUNIX.
[06:10] <bderrly> lets try to troubleshoot a bit more
[06:10] <FAJALOU> itai-michaelson: unfortunately there are two
[06:10] <cfedde> dfgas: might be easier to add you to the group the device is in rather than the other way around.
[06:10] <bderrly> so you say that when you download system upgrades you can't do anything else on the network, eg, surf the web?
[06:10] <graelb> Hi there, is there a way to get rid of the little gray squares on the outside of panels in gnome, when you hide said panel?
[06:10] <epipyhte> graelb: SHUT UP N00B.
[06:11] <dfgas> cfedde, what group would that be?
[06:11] <Tim> bderrly: Seems OK. What should I type next?
[06:11] <FAJALOU> epiphyte:  go get a life and get off here.
[06:11] <Miesco> Whats a good softsynth
[06:11] <epipyhte> Tim: THEY GAY GROUP.
[06:11] <itai-michaelson> FAJALOU, so you can go 1.windows 2. windows 3. root 4 home + logical extended partition swap
[06:11] <bderrly> Tim, sudo apt-get install gdm
[06:11] <glitsj16> invisibleprison: gstreamer-properties is part of the gnome-media package .. but there's nothing there to change audio speed
[06:11] <epipyhte> FAJALOU: shut up monkeyface
[06:11] <glitsj16> epiphyte: enough already
[06:11] <invisibleprison> glitsj16: I am not even sure it is a gstreamer problem... this is the first and only instance
[06:11] <FAJALOU> itai-michaelson: so the 4th partition would inclued home and swap, both as logical?
[06:11] <DysfunXionaL> kushalsejwal.:: alot of companies have "CAP" limits on bandwidth, eg; i download over 20gigs and they "CAP" me, only allowing 100kbs.
[06:12] <epipyhte> how are you ubuntu failures doing today?!!!
[06:12] <high-freq> has anyone used xmblackberry and if so is there a repo for it?
[06:12] <itai-michaelson> FAJALOU, yes
[06:12] <kushalsejwal> bderrly: then what can I do
[06:12] <cfedde> dfgas: when you ls -l the device file the result'll tell you.  Probably the video group.
[06:12] <DysfunXionaL> kushalsejwal.:: a thought if all else fails
[06:12] <bderrly> kushalsejwal, did you see my last few messages to you?
[06:12] <glitsj16> invisibleprison: yep, hard to debug i guess .. what site are you refering to actually ? might be a genral issue on their side
[06:13] <dfgas> cfedde, k thanks never knew that.
[06:13] <msmarc> exit
[06:13] <kushalsejwal> bderrly: yes i do
[06:13] <invisibleprison> glitsj16: It is skillport.com, a site for doing online training... I highly doubt it is a problem on their end
[06:13] <acrousey> hi again all
[06:14] <Tim> bderry: For some reason the cd-rom unmounts after telling me source list entries.
[06:14] <FAJALOU> is it possible to resize a logical parition?  b/c my friend is having difficulties...
[06:14] <glitsj16> invisibleprison: okay thanks, no clue to what might be causing it
[06:14] <Tim> bderrly: then asks for rest of cd's in set!
[06:14] <invisibleprison> glitsj16: ug... maybe I should try with a boot cd and see if it does it
[06:14] <acrousey> i tried the folder sharing option with ubuntu and it tells me that i "need to install the Windows network sharing service in order to share my folders"
[06:15] <bderrly> kushalsejwal, what have you tried to troubleshoot the issue?
[06:15] <kushalsejwal>  ﻿I forgot whats the command that is typed in the address bar of firefox to change setting its something like confix : ???
[06:15] <Johnny> anyone know a channel for phreaking?
[06:15] <itai-michaelson> FAJALOU, i think gparted can resize a logical partition
[06:15] <Tim> bderrly: so the install command looks online instead.
[06:15] <bderrly> Tim, hmm, i've not used the cdrom for apt after the initial install so i'm not sure
[06:15] <rww> kushalsejwal: it's about:config
[06:15] <acrousey> i was wondering if there was a way that i would be able to share directly between my mac an this computer
[06:15] <l0fls> phreaking?
[06:15] <Tim> bderrly: OK.
[06:15] <wbmj> kushalsejwal:about:config
[06:15] <l0fls> like phone phreaking?
[06:15] <kushalsejwal>  bderrly: Nothing suggest me something to do , any sudo command to check that I havent messed any setting
[06:15] <bderrly> Tim, i'm curious if you're having network issues?
[06:15] <Tim> bderrly: Thanks for your help.
[06:15] <burnin> anyone have an bash script that will rsync only the packages for a single distribution, i.e. if I only want the packages out of the pool for hardy to be rsynced to a private mirror?
[06:16] <Tim> bderrly: Possibly.
[06:16] <kushalsejwal> rww: wbmj: thanks
[06:16] <bderrly> Tim, i just did an apt-get upgrade here in the states and it worked fine
[06:16] <Tim> Should I test it using 'pin'?
[06:16] <Tim> ping
[06:16] <acrousey> i have an ethernet hooked between the two of them (ubuntu comp and mac) and surprisingly, the ubuntu comp can run on the internet through airport on my mac (reverse tethering you could call it)
[06:17] <Tim> bderrly: I mean, how do I best test network?
[06:17] <acrousey> but i cannot share between the two of them
[06:17] <acrousey> *ethernet cable
[06:17] <kushalsejwal> bderrly: What is network.dns.disableIPv6 ???? I have it value "True"???
[06:17] <bderrly> Tim, ping uk.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:17] <rww> acrousey: the "Windows network sharing service" it's talking about is samba. you can install it with sudo apt-get install samba, or your favorite GUI package manager
[06:17] <bderrly> kushalsejwal, it means don't use ipv6 for dns
[06:18] <bderrly> kushalsejwal, shouldn't be a problem
[06:18] <acrousey> rww: thanks, will try
[06:18] <wbmj> kushalsejwal: IPv6 isn't a real necessity
[06:18] <snarkster> ok fixed
[06:18] <Tim> bderrly: "unknown host". Does that mean I'm not able to access net?
[06:18] <bderrly> would seem so
[06:18] <DrDerek> How do I change the default browser for Pidigin, I want it to open up opera when clicking links, not firefox
[06:18] <bderrly> Tim, do you normally use wifi on your laptop?
[06:19] <bderrly> DrDerek, option in pidgin
[06:19] <bderrly> err
[06:19] <kushalsejwal> so shoule I left it value to true or change it to false???
[06:19] <bderrly> actually
[06:19] <DysfunXionaL> lol
[06:19] <Tim> bderrly: Yes, i do.
[06:19] <Awesomedude_> I can't get my internet working in ubuntu, I am using the latest version 8.04 (fresh install) and I can't connect to my network using my linksys wusb54g :( I connect the device and I got to the wireless icon and tell it to connect to my network and type in the correct wpa password but it wont connect
[06:19] <DrDerek> bderrly - I checked preferences already
[06:19] <wbmj> kushalsejwal: con leave it
[06:19] <kushalsejwal> okay
[06:19] <bderrly> default apps for gnome, System > Preferences > Preferred Applications
[06:20] <casemods> can anyone tell me why firefox opens up a notepad inside firefox when i try to download wine doors debian?
[06:20] <DrDerek> thanks
[06:20] <casemods> its like a bunch of chinese characters and shit
[06:20] <wbmj> DrDerek: just know that changing preferred is system wide
[06:21] <DrDerek> wbmj - yeah, Firefox 3 has been very screwy for me since I updated to Heron
[06:21] <bderrly> umm, per-user system-wide
[06:21] <ndf> what's the command in terminal to take a screenshot on a timer?
[06:21] <bderrly> import i think
[06:21] <DrDerek> wbmj - it keeps on crashing
[06:21] <Tim> bderrly: Looks like I'm screwed either way - for now..
[06:21] <rww> ndf: I use the program scrot for that. sudo apt-get install scrot, then man scrot
[06:21] <Tim> bderrly: Thanks for help though.
[06:21] <wbmj> DrDerek: If you prefer FF Firefox-2 is in the repos
[06:21] <bderrly> ndf, sleep 10; import <options>
[06:22] <kushalsejwal> ﻿ bderrly: I think I should ask my ISP to configue my broadband, earlier I used to get 80 KBps donwload speed now only 20 KBps .... may be thats the reason
[06:22] <bderrly> Tim, no worries, you can setup wifi from cli, a bit tougher, or plug in some ethernet cable :)
[06:22] <bderrly> kushalsejwal, maybe they're throttling you due to excessive torrent traffic?
[06:23] <Tim> bderrly: OK. Think I'd beter get some rest (or a coffee) before doing anything like that :)
[06:23] <itai-michaelson> casemods, where are trying to download it from?
[06:23] <kushalsejwal>  bderrly: You know what..... you are absolutely correct I have really mistued my unlimited broadband speed :D
[06:23] <acrousey> rww: i'm in terminal now and it says that it couldn't find the package Samba
[06:24] <kushalsejwal> I have oversued it
[06:24] <bderrly> Tim, do both, but maybe in reverse order...
[06:24] <kushalsejwal> bderrly: I have downloaded more than 20 GB this month :D
[06:24] <Tim> bderrly: LOL
[06:24] <wbmj> acrousey:Samba is smb in repos
[06:25] <acrousey> oh
[06:25] <acrousey> that might help
[06:25] <casemods> http://www.wine-doors.org/wordpress/?page_id=3
[06:25] <DysfunXionaL> Awesomedude_.:: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wi...esearch=Titles | If your using ndiswrapper make sure you are using a 32 bit windows driver on i386 hardy and a 64 bit driver on amd64.
[06:25] <rww> it is? adept sees a samba package in mine =/
[06:25] <wbmj> casemods:right click on the download link and use save as
[06:25] <acrousey> rww: do you do samba or smb?
[06:25] <wbmj> smb
[06:26] <casemods> and then
[06:26] <acrousey> wbmj: nope
[06:26] <acrousey> couldn't find package
[06:26] <DysfunXionaL> what about VNC??
[06:26] <acrousey> could it be because i'm using the alternative desktop?
[06:26] <DysfunXionaL> would that work
[06:27] <casemods> error: dependency is not satisfiable: wine
[06:27] <wbmj> acrousey:my mistake...it is samba in the repos
[06:27] <acrousey> *ubuntu's alternative
[06:27] <acrousey> oh
[06:28] <evilbug> issue - i want to try out fluxbox and i'm curious how i would completely remove xfce if i decide to stick with fluxbox.
[06:28] <itai-michaelson> casemods, probably means you need to install wine first
[06:28] <acrousey> wbmj: is it still  "sudo apt-get install samba" that i need to use then?
[06:28] <wbmj> evilbug: sudo aptitude remove xubuntu-desktop
[06:29] <Stargazer> [Ubuntu 8.04] what would be a good program for "Virtual Machines" ?
[06:29] <bderrly> evilbug, sudo apt-get remove xfce OR sudo dpkg --purge xfce
[06:29] <casemods> how do i install wine? :|
[06:29] <wbmj> acrousey:yes
[06:29] <bderrly> casemods, sudo apt-get install wine
[06:29] <rww> acrousey: yeah, that /should/ do it. samba's in the main repository, which you should have
[06:29] <evilbug> bderrly- and that would completely remove every component?
[06:29] <kushalsejwal> bderrly: thanks buddy, Have a nice day :)
[06:30] <casemods> bderrly: sudo apt-get install wine ???
[06:30] <itai-michaelson> casemods, you open a terminal and run the command sudo aptitude install wine
[06:30] <kushalsejwal> Bye #ubuntu
[06:30] <casemods> how do i open a terminal?
[06:30] <LogicalDash> casemods: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[06:30] <Stargazer> [Ubuntu 8.04] what would be a good program for running/testing with "Virtual Machines" ?
[06:30] <LogicalDash> Stargazer: VirtualBox OSE
[06:30] <bderrly> evilbug, not sure, it'll remove xfce though ;) and that was the only requirement i saw in your statement
[06:31] <FAJALOU> Stargazer: virtualbox
[06:31] <FAJALOU> it's in the repos
[06:31] <wbmj> Stargazer: Vbox is easiest to use
[06:31] <rbd> anyone know if there's ubuntu/debian debs for the most recent versions of asterisk? I'm not finding much... might have to resort to using the .tar.gz
[06:31] <rbd> this would be for hardy, btw
[06:31] <rww> Stargazer: yup, virtualbox. it's in the repos as virtualbox-ose
[06:31] <LogicalDash> rbd: check getdeb.net
[06:31] <evilbug> bderrly- i'd prefer having everything removed. maybe what wbmj said.
[06:31] <casemods> bderrly: when it asks for my password, it wont let me enter it
[06:32] <bderrly> evilbug, did you install xubuntu or vanilla ubuntu?
[06:32] <evilbug> bderrly- xubuntu.
[06:32] <LogicalDash> casemods: If you're not seeing any ***** where you'd expect, that's just the normal way it works. It's listening, really.
[06:32] <bderrly> casemods, type away, the terminal doesn't echo anything when it wants a password
[06:32] <rww> casemods: even though nothing appears when you type, it is receiving your password. just type it (ignoring the lack of *), and press enter
[06:32] <casemods> thanks :)
[06:33] <bderrly> evilbug, ahh, ok, so then you probably do have xubuntu-desktop meta-package installed, you could do an aptitude remove xubuntu-desktop, but if you look at the deps for that package there are a ton, some you probably don't want to remove
[06:33] <casemods> "sudo apt-get install wine"
[06:33] <casemods> Reading package lists... Done
[06:33] <itai-michaelson> casemods, have a look here : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy
[06:33] <casemods> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:33] <casemods> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:33] <casemods> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:33] <casemods> is only available from another source
[06:33] <casemods> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[06:33] <FloodBot2> casemods: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:33] <rbd> LogicalDash: thanks for the site, but no luck
[06:33] <evilbug> bderrly- so i might just want to install fluxbunt if i decide to completely remove xfce?
[06:34] <LogicalDash> casemods: Keep that terminal open, I'm looking up a command to fix that...
[06:34] <bderrly> evilbug, i would recommend that
[06:34] <evilbug> bderrly- thanks.
[06:34] <bderrly> evilbug, unless you're really crunched for hard disk space then it won't hurt to leave it
[06:34] <LogicalDash> casemods: see this page: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[06:35] <LogicalDash> casemods: You're running Ubuntu Hardy btw
[06:35] <chalcedny> i've got a problem setting up my netgear router. i believe the router is 255.255.255.0 and my computer (ubuntu Hardy 8.4) is looking for 255.255.255.255 ?
[06:35] <casemods> whats that mean?
[06:35] <chalcedny> is that something i can call tech support back for, or something i need to set in my computer(s) ?
[06:35] <itai-michaelson> LogicalDash, these are development versions (in the wineHQ site)
[06:35] <LogicalDash> casemods: Ubuntu Hardy Heron is the name of your operating system
[06:35] <bderrly> chalcedny, 255.255.255.0 is your netmask more than likely, not the ip of the router
[06:35] <rww> chalcedny: Your router isn't 255.255.255.0. That's the netmask. Your router is probably something like 192.168.XXX.XXX
[06:35] <casemods> when i click the link that says "click this to install" it says "fire fox doesnt know how to handle because :apt: isnt associated
[06:36] <LogicalDash> itai-michaelson: Yeah, and that seems to be what they want people to use
[06:36] <bderrly> chalcedny, the ip of the router is probably 192.168.0.1
[06:36] <rww> chalcedny: it's a computer setting, not a router problem
[06:36] <itai-michaelson> LogicalDash, don't you think its better he adds multiverse and installs wine from the repos>?
[06:37] <Amun> glitsj16: dunno. whenever i copy a encrypted dvd, it shows up as blocks of green and other mutilated colors.
[06:37] <itai-michaelson> casemods, did you install that ubuntu yourslef?
[06:37] <casemods> yes
[06:37] <itai-michaelson> casemods, when?
[06:37] <casemods> an hour ago
[06:37] <casemods> +/-
[06:37] <planet_x> anyone know how to enable compiz fusion/advanced desktop effects on the EEE PC 1000H? Been looking everywhere, any assistance greatly appreciated just keeps saying desktop effects cannot be enabled
[06:37] <LogicalDash> itai-michaelson: the WINE development versions present the same user interface and everything, they just have some experimental features that make (say) some installers work better
[06:37] <itai-michaelson> casemods, so you are probably running the latest version called "hardy"
[06:38] <casemods> its an old disc...
[06:38] <FAJALOU> planet_x: what is your graphics card?
[06:38] <itai-michaelson> casemods, oh..how old?
[06:38] <LogicalDash> casemods, ah, you should really run the latest version
[06:38] <wbmj> planet_x: doubt the EEE can handle compiz
[06:38] <planet_x> its the intel chip that comes with it a GMA.. i have read that it works for other people
[06:38] <planet_x> yes it can
[06:39] <high-freq> has anyone tried compiling Xlt and it failed?
[06:39] <TeslaTony> Is there a program that will mount an ISO image as if it were a DVD drive? I have a lot of programs that have no problem with DVDs, but can't handle an ISO
[06:39] <planet_x> i just cant seem to make it work but others have :/
[06:39] <high-freq> i'm tryin to get this darn XmBlackBerry to work and requires Xlt
[06:39] <itai-michaelson> casemods, what is the output of the command "lsb_release -a"
[06:39] <ManualOverDozer8> shows Distro info
[06:40] <casemods> No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:    Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS Release:        6.06 Codename:       dapper
[06:40] <itai-michaelson> casemods, you are running an old version of ubuntu
[06:40] <itai-michaelson> called dapper
[06:41] <Vampy> casemods : i would suggest that you would be wiser to get teh newest version of ubuntu. major changes since the version your running
[06:41] <genii> itai-michaelson: Dapper is still supported here
[06:42] <Balian> #ubuntu.pl
[06:42] <itai-michaelson> genii, sure , but dont you think he better upgrade to hardy, considering he just installed?
[06:42] <mlLK> anyone else notice how much better linux handles torrents?
[06:42] <genii> itai-michaelson: If he plans on running dev versions for instance of wine, yes.
[06:42] <mlLK> like seriously.
[06:43] <Vampy> milk : that's cause there isnt the OS limitations like windows has.
[06:43] <itai-michaelson> genii, or using a webcam in skype..
[06:43] <mlLK> it *actually* connects w/ all the peers
[06:43] <xynthpop> nice
[06:43] <ProN00b> mlLK, microsoft severely cripled windows networking tcp stack with sp2 (or was it sp1 already ?)
[06:43] <Vampy> sp2 Pro
[06:44] <itai-michaelson> casemods, we can help you install wine in your version of ubuntu, but i personaly suggest getting the latest version
[06:44] <Vampy> when they did the half connection update
[06:44] <p4_xxx> is bitttorrent secure?
[06:44] <mlLK> ProN00b, huh. so sp1 handles tcp better?
[06:44] <casemods> how can i get the latest?
[06:44] <mlLK> ProN00b, was it like a security patch?
[06:44] <LSD|Ninja> p4_xxx: not really, no
[06:44] <itai-michaelson> casemods, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[06:45] <Vampy> milk : it was considered a security update but it was once again.. microsofts way to control its users
[06:45] <ProN00b> mlLK, well, it is not intentionally cripled in sp1... and it its security effect is dubious (it won't help you because when it works, you are already infected, it just makes worms spread slightly slower)
[06:45] <LSD|Ninja> ...
[06:46] <p4_xxx> the last time i use Bittorrent, my firewall show me a lot of ip's  that w i was beeing connected too so i close it
[06:46] <ProN00b> mlLK, its against portscanning, it prevents any program from attempting to open more than 10 connection at once
[06:46] <itai-michaelson> casemods, btw why do you need winedoors?
[06:46] <ProN00b> p4_xxx, you fail at understanding stuff
[06:46] <LSD|Ninja> p4_xxx: you do realise that's how bittorrent works, right?
[06:46] <p4_xxx> yes i know
[06:47] <Vampy> the more ips the better and faster you download
[06:47] <p4_xxx> thats why i asked if it is secure
[06:47] <xynthpop> you could proxxycondom
[06:47] <ProN00b> it is, at least in the way that opening alot of connections to alot of ip's is
[06:47] <xynthpop> but that would slow down your rate
[06:47] <mlLK> ProN00b, thats crazy
[06:47] <Balian_> #ubuntu-pl
[06:48] <mlLK> i just read on YC windows is coming out w/ some open-source OS
[06:48] <mlLK> for heavy-weight users
[06:48] <casemods> itai-michaelson: i want to have windows functionality
[06:48] <ProN00b> mlLK, thats complete bullshit
[06:48] <casemods> right now, xfire, steam, some games
[06:48] <ProN00b> mlLK, and/or useless
[06:48] <mlLK> http://www.sdtimes.com/MICROSOFT_S_PLANS_FOR_POST_WINDOWS_OS_REVEALED/About_CLOUDCOMPUTING_and_MOBILEDEVELOPMENT_and_NET_and_SOASAAS_and_SOFTWAREDEVELOPMENT_and_WINDOWS_and_MICROSOFT/32627
[06:49] <itai-michaelson> casemods, i see...better install the latest version
[06:49] <ViCklatereur> Hi all ~~
[06:49] <dymas> caigong_ara
[06:49] <xynthpop> mew~~
[06:49] <dymas> apapa
[06:49] <mlLK> ProN00b, ya not exactly open-source
[06:50] <p4_xxx> so is there any posibility that a person conected to your computer can access ur desktop and get another files? i dont know much about torrent, i read info and use it just 2 times
[06:50] <mlLK> ProN00b, it has an open-source vibe tho
[06:50] <mlLK> w/ package-management and all
[06:51] <ProN00b> mlLK, well, you know how microsoft does stuff, embrace extend extinguish
[06:51] <Vampy> ProNoob : no doubt
[06:51] <mlLK> ProN00b, they're all about entropy
[06:51] <acrousey> is there a way to share files between two computers without the internet?
[06:51] <ProN00b> lul whut
[06:51] <Vampy> lan shares
[06:51] <mlLK> ProN00b, most corporations are; at least in america
[06:51] <ProN00b> acrousey, infinite ?
[06:51] <xynthpop> like bluetooth?
[06:52] <acrousey> no,
[06:52] <acrousey> this other computer is about 10 years old
[06:52] <p4_xxx> home network?
[06:52] <acrousey> that's what i'm thinking
[06:52] <Vampy> what os's acrousey
[06:52] <acrousey> i have an ethernet cable hooked up between the two of them
[06:52] <doctorStrangePHD> Yeahh.... so how long does it take to set up "evolution common" in a hardy upgrade?
[06:52] <acrousey> Mac OSX and ubuntu
[06:53] <Vampy> which is older
[06:53] <ProN00b> old computer is running what ?
[06:53] <ProN00b> and which osx ?
[06:53] <p4_xxx> i think u also need a router, or a crossover cable
[06:53] <acrousey> mac is newer and i use tiger
[06:53] <doctorStrangePHD> whois doctorstrangePHD
[06:54] <Stargazer> For Virtualbox-ose which module do i get if i have Linux-image-generic 2.6.24 ?
[06:54] <acrousey> or i could just spend some money and make the older computer wireless
[06:54] <Vampy> you transfering from the ubuntu to the mac?
[06:54] <acrousey> how much would that cost?
[06:54] <ProN00b> acrousey, you could install samba on the ubuntu, or a ftp, i think you might be able to make a samba share by just right klicking a folder...
[06:54] <acrousey> vampy: other way around, i hope
[06:54] <doctorStrangePHD> q
[06:54] <acrousey> pron00b: yeah, but i have to download something
[06:55] <ProN00b> acrousey, oh, so you mean the ubuntu computer doesn't have internet ?
[06:55] <Vampy> acrousey : you could go wireless. but you prolly lookin in the range of $70 - 100 or more in cash
[06:55] <acrousey> i'm in my room now and using my mac laptop
[06:55] <acrousey> yeah
[06:55] <ProN00b> acrousey, can't you share internet connection from the mac ?
[06:55] <acrousey> it can... but i just moved it into my room
[06:55] <LSD|Ninja> acrousey: enable Windows sharing on the Mac side, Ubuntu should have the SMB client without needing the samba server
[06:55] <acrousey> it's not working
[06:56] <acrousey> lsdninja: how would i do that?
[06:56] <p4_xxx> did u edit the smb.conf in the ubuntu machine?
[06:56] <acrousey> p4_xxx: no
[06:56] <LSD|Ninja> p4_xxx: there's no samba server on ubuntu by default afaik, you have to install it after the face
[06:56] <LSD|Ninja> fact*
[06:56] <Tank> what is generally considered the best hardcopy book on Ubuntu?
[06:56] <p4_xxx> ah ok
[06:57] <LSD|Ninja> acrousey: (Under OS X) Sys Prefs -> Sharing -> Windows Sharing (iirc, been a while since I used Tiger)
[06:57] <acrousey> i mean, i could take it back downstairs and install it that way
[06:57] <wbmj> Stargazer: vitualbox-ose-module-linux-generic
[06:57] <ProN00b> acrousey, nah, samba  ("Windows Sharing") on osx should be good, like LSD|Ninja described
[06:58] <acrousey> alright
[06:58] <acrousey> i did that
[06:58] <acrousey> let's see how it works
[06:58] <ProN00b> acrousey, did you do any network diagnostics to see if the two computers are actually connected ?
[06:59] <raj_> hi there
[06:59] <FAJALOU> my friend has a broadcom card and i guess it is working, but he cannot connect to any wireless networks...  any thoughts?
[07:00] <FAJALOU> !hi | raj_
[07:00] <wbmj> FAJALOU: Is network-manager set to roaming
[07:00] <ProN00b> FAJALOU, distance too high, networks have keys he doesn't
[07:00] <FAJALOU> wbmj, network-manager.... is that networks in system>administration/
[07:01] <kindofabuzz> when doing a cp /there/foo /here/foo, is there coomand to replace /here/foo if already in that dir?  did that make sense?
[07:01] <wbmj> FAJALOU: yes
[07:01] <genii> kindofabuzz: The default behaviour is to overwrite
[07:01] <acrousey> pron00b: I'm assuming that they are because when i go into ubuntu's networking i see it under hosts
[07:01] <morbyt1> has anybody an idea, why sound in flash videos is not working? other sound works flawlessly
[07:01] <FAJALOU> wbmj: yes it is...
[07:02] <kindofabuzz> genii: so no need to put /here/foo if already in the dir you want the copied file in?
[07:02] <Bogus8> I need to temp mount an nfs (manual mount) ... I know how and can do it with sudo but then it's owned by root and I can't copy files into it... I'm pretty sure exports is correct I think it's the mount part
[07:02] <wbmj> FAJALOU: does he see networks when clicking the netwok-manager applet
[07:02] <ProN00b> acrousey, oh, thats quite good, with windows sharing enabled on the mac you should be able to find the shared mac folders there then
[07:02] <Bogus8> with samba I have to mount and set uid and gid ...shouldn't I hav eto do the same with nfs?
[07:02] <genii> kindofabuzz: If you're in the dir use:     cp /from/wherever .
[07:03] <FAJALOU> wbmj: he doesn't see anything...
[07:03] <genii> kindofabuzz: the "." means "here"
[07:03] <kindofabuzz> genii: thanks buddie
[07:03] <genii> kindofabuzz: np
[07:03] <wbmj> FAJALOU: there is no networks listed at all
[07:03] <ProN00b> Bogus8, samba is windows tech, i asume you need to set uid and gid because they don't fully exist on the target system and or ain't transfered, that will not likely be the case with nfs which has not been designed with windows in mind
[07:03] <FAJALOU> network-manager-applet; where is that, is it up at the top, with the two computer?
[07:03] <FAJALOU> *computers
[07:04] <wbmj> FAJALOU: next to the clock
[07:04] <Bogus8> ProN00b: ok, but when I do an ls -l on my freshly mounted dir it's owned by root with no write perms to anyone else
[07:04] <FAJALOU> Bogus8:  sudo chown <username> <mountpoint of ntfs>
[07:04] <acrousey> pron00b: is there any better way then mine to diagnose if the two computers are actually connected?
[07:04] <FAJALOU> or have you tried using ntfs-3g
[07:04] <Bogus8> FAJALOU: not NTFS but NFS
[07:05] <ProN00b> acrousey, yes lower level ones, but your own shows a clear connection so those are not needed
[07:05] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  none show up.
[07:05] <acrousey> well, i was seeing stuff in hosts
[07:05] <ProN00b> that means the network connection works
[07:05] <wbmj> FAJALOU: is the computer hardwired right now
[07:06] <acrousey> in networking on Ubuntu
[07:06] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  no
[07:06] <acrousey> but i'm still not getting anything
[07:06] <kindofabuzz> Bogus8: http://czarism.com/easy-peasy-ubuntu-linux-nfs-file-sharing
[07:06] <wbmj> FAJALOU: when you opened Network did it list the wireless device
[07:07] <chalcedny> i've got a problem setting up my netgear router. i believe the router is 255.255.255.0 and my computer (ubuntu Hardy 8.4) is looking for 255.255.255.255 ?
[07:07] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  yes they show up.
[07:07] <ProN00b> Bogus8, well, a folder doesn't change permissions because you mount something to it, but its contents then have the perms of the remote stuff
[07:07] <Bogus8> kindofabuzz: yes, that is what I have done... but when you sudo mount it mounts it as root and regular users don't have perms to write to it... that is my problem
[07:08] <wbmj> FAJALOU: probably no good signals nearby
[07:08] <ProN00b> chalcedny, actually that should be detected automatically by default
[07:08] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  there is one downstairs for him
[07:08] <Bogus8> ProN00b: doh!  I did mkdir as root... not sure how or why.. probably habit of typing sudo :(
[07:08] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  in iwconfig there is wmaster0 and wlan0,
[07:09] <FAJALOU> only wlan0 is showing it enabled though.
[07:09] <ProN00b> chalcedny, if not go to network interface config and set to static config and enter info manually
[07:10] <dstrbdfrk> anyone in here help with backtrack3??????
[07:10] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  ifconfig shows neither wlan0 or wmaster0
[07:10] <Bogus8> ProN00b: actually I guess it's an issue with my fstab... I set them up then mounted with -a thinking it would mount it properly... guess I got something screwy (the dir I'm sharing is a drive)
[07:10] <msandbu> FAJALOU: try iwconfig
[07:11] <chalcedny> ProN00b i need to do something, both of my ubuntu boxes aren't seeing it yet
[07:11] <FAJALOU> msandbu: iwconfig shows stuff, but nothing will connect, apparently
[07:11] <wbmj> FAJALOU: since the wireless device is listed the problem is acquiring the router signal......if no networks are available when you left click the nm-applet then there is no signal
[07:11] <noriyuki> !clone
[07:11] <Xptical> anyone running ubuntu on a laptop with Intel graphics?
[07:11] <ProN00b> chalcedny, what did you do on your previous os ?
[07:11] <dstrbdfrk> !backtrack
[07:12] <crdlb> Xptical: undoubtedly someone in here is; what's the problem?
[07:12] <dstrbdfrk> xptical " i am   dell e1505
[07:12] <chalcedny> ProN00b i set the router up on this vista laptop, my ubuntu boxes have always been linux
[07:12] <Xptical> no problem.  looking for a new laptop.  something to run Vista and Ubuntu+compiz
[07:12] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  his chipset is   BCM94311MZG
[07:13] <Xptical> and I just wondered how the Intel graphics are
[07:13] <FAJALOU> and it' doesn't show up under restricted drivers.
[07:14] <morrison> hello
[07:14] <BigBuddha> wine apps arent present in the menu, the wine guys said it was a distro issue
[07:14] <morrison> I need help
[07:14] <ProN00b> FAJALOU, can another computer successfully connect to those networks ?
[07:14] <morrison> please
[07:14] <Xptical> I see I have a choice of AIGLX or XGL.  Have you tried either of those?
[07:14] <FAJALOU> ProN00b: the vista parition can correctly
[07:14] <wbmj> FAJALOU: I don't think it is a driver problem if the wireless card is listed in System > Administration > Network
[07:14] <crdlb> Xptical: just get something with a GMA965 (X3100) or better in it
[07:14] <ProN00b> BigBuddha, what wine apps ?
[07:14] <crdlb> Xptical: you'd be using AIGLX, and it works out of the box (even on the livecd)
[07:14] <BigBuddha> photoshop cs2
[07:15] <Xptical> Why that specific chipset?
[07:15] <ProN00b> FAJALOU, any stored passwords maybe ?
[07:15] <BigBuddha> ProN00b: photoshopcs2
[07:15] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  from where he is, the vista partition gets inet, and it didn't need a password before
[07:15] <Bogus8> Ok, then why isn't mount -a mounting my drive into my USERS dir and keeping my user's perms on it... I have the options in fstab as "defaults,errors=remount-ro"
[07:15] <ProN00b> BigBuddha, you installed that successfully ?
[07:15] <Bogus8> this is how I have always set it up in the past? :/
[07:15] <BigBuddha> ProN00b: yes
[07:15] <wbmj> ProNOOB: passwords aren't need to find a wireless connection....only to use one
[07:16] <ProN00b> wbmj, i thought he said he could find them just not connect
[07:16] <albech> anyone else having problems with tolkien.freenode.net??
[07:16] <wbmj> ProNOOB: no the routers don't show up in nm-applet
[07:17] <crdlb> Xptical: because that's their new stuff
[07:17] <Xptical> thanks for the help guys.
[07:17] <solexious> [Q]I keeps getting this error when installing or upgrading packages, why and how can i fix? "E: python-setuptools: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[07:17] <ProN00b> Bogus8, you mean the permissions of files and subdirs of that did you mounted a nfs share on don't allow your current user to write ?
[07:17] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  b/c it's not bc43xx ,should he have to use ndiswrapper?
[07:17] <Bogus8> ProN00b: I think my NFS problem is due to a mounting problem on the "server"
[07:17] <ProN00b> Bogus8, can you access the files as root ?
[07:18] <Bogus8> ProN00b: when I mount the drive to the users dir it changes the perms to root even though I am mounting with mount -a and it's set up right in fstab
[07:18] <wbmj> FAJALOU: I don't think so....otherwise he wouldn't have a wireless entry in Network
[07:18] <FAJALOU> wbmj: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=845067
[07:19] <ProN00b> Bogus8, again, can you access the mounted files as root ?
[07:19] <Bogus8> ProN00b: yes
[07:20] <ProN00b> Bogus8, as i said, nfs mirrors the privileges of the remote system on your local one, so if they are only root accessible or accessible for a uid/gid that doesn't exist on your machine only root will be able to access them there too
[07:20] <Bogus8> ProN00b: and as I said, I realized my problem isn't on the client of the nfs it's on the server... the mounting of the actual drive is screwed up
[07:20] <theRealBall> so what's the next best filesystem?
[07:20] <Tm_T> !best | theRealBall
[07:21] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  it does not show up in restricted drivers.
[07:21] <ProN00b> theRealBall, there isn't one unfortunately
[07:21] <Bogus8> ProN00b: when I mount my physical drive using "mount -a" it's still mounting it as root (on the SERVER)  forget NFS now as I see that's not the problem
[07:21] <ProN00b> kek, Bogus8, dude...
[07:21] <wbmj> FAJALOU: Then he may need ndiswrapper
[07:22] <theRealBall> ubottu: if you really do care i'm not a troll :p just curious cuz i've been a using opensolaris for a while now that's all
[07:22] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  what about fwcutter
[07:22] <ProN00b> man, i should write a filesystem, it would be the absolutely best one of them all
[07:22] <wbmj> FAJALOU: Thought I find NDISGTK is easier to use
[07:22] <Bogus8> ProN00b: I am using the options for my drive in fstab as "defaults,errors=remount-ro" from there I do a mount -a (just as I have before
[07:22] <theRealBall> lool
[07:22] <cwillu> !info b43-fwcutter
[07:22] <FAJALOU> but he can't get on the inet; therefore no drivers for it.
[07:22] <Bogus8> ProN00b: but it ends up mounting the drive as root
[07:23] <ProN00b> Bogus8, you make no sense, permissions are stored on a per file base...
[07:23] <wbmj> FAJALOU: could he check one more thing..../etc/network/interfaces...........make sure the wireless device is not listed
[07:25] <Bogus8> ProN00b: ok... I created a dir called "raid" in my users home dir.  it was created and is owned by that user.   Then I mount my raid to it via puting the line in fstab and using sudo mount -a   ... at this point the perms change like root owns it since it mounted it
[07:25] <AgentK> Can anybody recommend good resources for linux/ubuntu sysadmins ie network services, security stuff?
[07:25] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  make sure it's _not_ listed?
[07:25] <cwillu> Bogus8, the filesystem itself needs to be chmod/chown'd
[07:25] <cwillu> Bogus8, i.e., mount it, and _then_ set the permissions
[07:25] <wbmj> FAJALOU: yes
[07:25] <FAJALOU> wbmj ok.
[07:26] <ProN00b> Bogus8, ls -lah|grep raid in home dir before and after mount
[07:26] <Balian> #ubuntu-pl
[07:26] <Bogus8> cwillu: I think I get it... because I mkfs.ext3 as root it set it as root
[07:26] <ProN00b> Bogus8, also ls -lah raid after mount
[07:26] <cwillu> Bogus8, well, more like root ownership is just the default
[07:26] <Bogus8> ProN00b: yes, and that is when it changes from my user to root (after sudo mount -a)
[07:26] <MaxHeadroom> Hello, anybody here use toonel proxy?
[07:27] <Bogus8> cwillu: I'll test that real quick and make sure
[07:27] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  what should he be looking for?
[07:27] <egoleo> hey guys how do i set time zone on ubuntu plse using terminal
[07:27] <wbmj> auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[07:27] <ProN00b> Bogus8, i still don't believe folders change ownership because you mount something to them
[07:27] <FAJALOU> wbmj:  that liine is there.
[07:28] <cwillu> ProN00b, yes, they do
[07:28] <kindofabuzz> can i burn a cd iso to a DVD?  will it work the same?  i'm out of cd's =(
[07:28] <ProN00b> cwillu, really ?
[07:28] <cwillu> ProN00b, if the root of the mount has different permissions on it, then that's what the mount point gets
[07:28] <Bogus8> ProN00b: it's because I never chowned that file system... it's brand new
[07:28] <Bogus8> cwillu: you were correct
[07:28] <FAJALOU> wbmj: PM?
[07:28] <msandbu> kindofabuzz: yes it will
[07:28] <wbmj> FAJALOU:ok
[07:29] <msandbu> kindofabuzz: just did the same for about 5 min ago ^^
[07:29] <Bogus8> ProN00b: thanks for your attempts, it really is appreciated... it led me to stop barking up the wrong tree of NFS
[07:29] <kindofabuzz> msandbu: cool thanks
[07:29] <cwillu> ProN00b, just think of the permissions as being set on the '.' entry, rather than the named entry that points to it
[07:29] <Bogus8> cwillu: thanks for pointing out my oversight on the newly created filesystem perms (I won't forget that one again ;)  )
[07:29] <cwillu> i.e., chown /foo/bar/baz/.
[07:29] <ProN00b> cwillu, so a ls in the subdir of the mount wouldn't change ?
[07:29] <cwillu> ?
[07:30] <cwillu> if you're in /mnt, and do an ls -l, you'll see whatever permissions are on /mnt in the root filesystem
[07:30] <cwillu> if you then mount something on /mnt, then you'll see whatever permissions are on / in _that_ filesystem
[07:30] <ProN00b> so those will change if i unmount and mount and the dirs perms are different from the fs root node ?
[07:30] <cwillu> yes
[07:31] <ProN00b> and how do i change the fs perms, just chmod it (sda) while its mounted ?
[07:31] <cwillu> ProN00b, one you cd into a mount point, you're not in the original filesystem any more, and always the '.' entry that matters
[07:31] <Ayabara> hey. I tried installing the latest nvidia driver on ubuntu 8.04, and now I'm stuck in low graphics mode... I have tried doing an uninstall of the driver and restore of the xorg.conf.backup, but still in low graphics.
[07:32] <cwillu> Ayabara, how did you install it?
[07:32] <jamis> How would I check which version of a wireless driver is being used? dmesg doesn't seem to have it....
[07:32] <Flannel> !away > freqk|away
[07:32] <Ayabara> cwillu: I stopped gdm and did a "sh *.run".
[07:33] <ProN00b> Ayabara, installed with some installer from the nvidia page ?
[07:33] <Ayabara> ProN00b: yes
[07:33] <ProN00b> bad idea
[07:33] <Ayabara> ProN00b: seems so :)
[07:34] <happihippo_> anyone here running netatalk
[07:34] <ProN00b> Ayabara, i don't know the name of the nvidia driver apt package, but i suggest searching for it in synaptic/aptitude/apt-get and reinstalling it
[07:35] <Ayabara> ProN00b: already on it :-)
[07:35] <Ayabara> thanks
[07:35] <ProN00b> peoples problems look kinda solvable to me today
[07:35] <ProN00b> this is boring
[07:37] <Ayabara> ProN00b: I'll reboot and see if you have to work more on my problem ;)
[07:40] <Ayabara> ProN00b: didn't work. any other suggestions?
[07:42] <Ayabara> is envy for installing graphics drivers frowned upon
[07:42] <ph8> not at all
[07:42] <ph8> best way for some imo
[07:43] <Ayabara> ph8: I seem to be one of those :/
[07:43] <ph8> I mean yes you could install all the packages, tweak everything the right way yourself following a long complicated howto
[07:43] <ph8> or you could just run the envy install command
[07:43] <sajjad> hi
[07:43] <ph8> things like this can be frowned upon 'because they dont' teach users how things work' - but with things like nvidia driver install (which I use envy-ng for) it's a lifesaver
[07:44] <SNuxoll> envy-ng isn't automatix, that's why it's not frowned upon
[07:44] <SNuxoll> it doesn't do stupid stuff that breaks your system
[07:45] <ph8> heh
[07:45] <lunch> i think firefox 3 is buggy on 8.04.1
[07:45] <Ayabara> ph8: ok. I installed the latest driver from the nvidia page and got stuck in low graphics. Uninstalled, restored xorg.conf, reinstalled nvidia-packages and rebooted, but am still in low graphics. Any chance of envy being able to save me?
[07:45] <Flannel> SNuxoll: its not quite as cut and dry as "its not automatix", since envy had some problems
[07:45] <ph8> lunch: i'm using it right now?
[07:45] <ph8> Ayabara:  yeh, install it, tell it to uninstall nvidia drivers first
[07:45] <ph8> then install nvidia drivers
[07:46] <casemods> can i burn the ubuntu iso to cd with the cd dvd creator included with ubuntu?
[07:46] <SNuxoll> Flannel: had, at least
[07:46] <ph8> and i think it gives you a default xorg.conf
[07:46] <PrivateRolf> I've successfully gotten my nokia tethered, but I can't browse the web or even ping with it. I think it may have something to do with....ergh...help?
[07:46] <Ayabara> ph8: I'll give it a try. thanks
[07:46] <SNuxoll> casemods: yes
[07:46] <ph8> otherwise if you can login run nvidia-settings and set up your screens
[07:46] <lunch> dns can't resolve ip, on firefox3, i need to run galeon, then go back to firefox, and then it will work. and no, not hardware problem, cause i have dual boot. works fine on windows
[07:46] <ph8> it's envy-ng if you're on hardy btw
[07:46] <ph8> should be obvious from milone's website
[07:46] <lunch> ph8
[07:46] <twb> What's the URL for the hand-holding page that explains how to install ubuntu-restricted-extras via GUI?
[07:46] <casemods> PrivateRolf: what CSP do you have?
[07:46] <PrivateRolf> CSP?
[07:46] <Flannel> SNuxoll: no, envy and envy-ng are separate codebases.  envy is still out there
[07:46] <jovo> can i type in a different language, say, chinese?
[07:46] <casemods> cellular service provider
[07:46] <PrivateRolf> Tmobile
[07:46] <Flannel> !cn | jovo
[07:47] <casemods> 6.99 a month internet?
[07:47] <SNuxoll> twb: alt + f2 gnome-terminal [enter] sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras [enter] [password] [y]
[07:47] <jovo> ah thanks
[07:47] <twb> SNuxoll: *I* know that.
[07:47] <Ayabara> ph8: I'm on hardy and installed envyng-gtk
[07:47] <ph8> cool
[07:47] <Bloodhound> hey folks =)
[07:47] <twb> SNuxoll: there's a wiki or help.u.c page that has lots of screenshots and using the random stupid GNOME GUI.
[07:47]  * SNuxoll doesn't find synaptic any easier to use being a gui app
[07:47] <casemods> PrivateRolf: what internet do you have for the phone?
[07:47] <ph8> BTW envy installs the proprietary nvidia binary drivers, which is why it's not shipped by default - there are some open nvidia drivers that come with ubuntu but they're not as good(tm)
[07:48] <twb> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats just has text.
[07:48] <Flannel> SNuxoll: If you're scrolling through a lot of descriptions trying to determine which package of a few you'd like to try, its easier than apt-cache
[07:48] <twb> I'm sure I've seen the page before.
[07:48] <twb> I'm not interested in debating the merits of GUIs vs. CLIs.
[07:48] <Flannel> ph8: there is an official way of installing said binary drivers too.  Restricted Drivers Manager
[07:48] <ph8> yeh but good luck with that :p
[07:49] <ph8> nvidia-settings is the best screen/xorg setup has ever been - i'm so happy with it
[07:49] <Flannel> ph8: It works perfectly fine
[07:49] <jovo> ok i have a different question
[07:49] <jovo> when i tried to install ubuntu onto a pc with windows XP already installed, installation went fine, but ubuntu didn't load after rebooting it
[07:49] <ph8> Flannel:  WIth the open drivers?
[07:49] <ph8> why does envy exist otherwise?
[07:49] <ph8> i've never been able to install any other way
[07:49] <Flannel> ph8: No.  It installs closed drivers.
[07:50] <Bloodhound> @ jovo is grub loading?
[07:50] <jovo> ?? i have no idea what that means
[07:50] <Bloodhound> or just booting to windows?
[07:50] <Bloodhound> oh
[07:50] <jovo> booting to anything
[07:50] <jovo> i had a blank screen, and i waited like 15 minutes and nothing happened
[07:50] <jovo> couldn't choose xp or ubuntu, nothing
[07:50] <Bloodhound> hmm
[07:51] <Bloodhound> are you able to go into the bios?
[07:51] <Ayabara> after uninstalling the nvidia drivers with envy, should I reboot before installing the latest and greatest?
[07:51] <j800r> hey, does anyone know if there's a way to intergrate media player controls into the gnome panel?
[07:51] <jovo> well...i guess so? i've erased windows now to see if ubuntu would work then (and it's working now), but i would just liek to know what to do if i would like to install xp again
[07:52] <Bloodhound> hmm
[07:52] <j800r> jovo: use your installation disk?
[07:52] <Bloodhound> do you have 2 or more hard drive's?
[07:52] <PrivateRol1> Sorry about that, when I untethered my nokia, nothing web wise worked.
[07:52] <jovo> no i only have one
[07:52] <Bloodhound> oh then i dont know, im not realy a expert you see =)
[07:52] <jovo> and i downloaded the iso file from the ubuntu website, burnt it on a cd, and then loaded it like that
[07:53] <Bloodhound> oke
[07:53] <jovo> ah it's ok bloodhound..thanks for your input :D
[07:53] <PrivateRol1> Basicaly: I can tether my nokia to my laptop, but can't surf the web or access chat or ping. Help?
[07:53] <Bloodhound> its to busy here =)
[07:53] <casemods> I downloaded the latest ubuntu, burned to CD, and put it in the drive - what do i do now? I want to install latest over old version
[07:53] <jovo> j800r do you have any suggestions?
[07:53] <Flannel> casemods: Just pop the CD in, boot from it, and hit install.
[07:54] <casemods> will it overwrite everything on the compute ?
[07:54] <Flannel> casemods: If you tell it to, yes.
[07:54] <casemods> ok
[07:54] <casemods> thannk
[07:54] <jovo> casemods just in case though, backup your files
[07:54] <PrivateRol1> Anyone any good with configuring modems? :U
[07:54] <casemods> Private what internet do you have with tmobile
[07:55] <casemods> i will jovo thanks
[07:55] <PrivateRol1> Just the GPRS.
[07:55] <casemods> so teh $7
[07:55] <casemods> or nothing?
[07:55] <PrivateRol1> Pretty much.
[07:55] <PrivateRol1> Nothing.
[07:55] <PrivateRol1> I can browse the web on my phone, so I probably have something.
[07:55] <casemods> but you can access irc?
[07:55] <casemods> yeah
[07:55] <PrivateRol1> No, I'm using wireless right now.
[07:55] <PrivateRol1> On my laptop.
[07:55] <Flannel> !enter
[07:55] <casemods> thats at least the $6.99 plan
[07:56] <chalcedony> hugs Flannel :))
[07:56] <PrivateRol1> Should I disable the gnome network manager or something?
[07:57] <Bloodhound> can anyone help me with setting up a ftp server at ubuntu =)
[07:57] <casemods> its probably because you have the limited data plan for tmobile
[07:57] <Bloodhound> just in harde no server edition =)
[07:57] <Flannel> Bloodhound: It's the same instructions.  But first, what will you be doing with said ftp server?
[07:58] <Bloodhound> share files over the ftp protocol
[07:58] <Flannel> Bloodhound: Right, but to yourself? or what?
[07:58] <PrivateRol1> Well I can get Epiphany to show ERROR $CODE$ or something like that.
[07:58] <PrivateRol1> I can get DNS servers and an IP address.
[07:58] <Bloodhound> to some ppl i want to, like acceses with passwords
[07:58] <Bloodhound> @ windows i used bulletproof ftp,
[07:58] <Ayabara> ph8: envyng got me back where I belong. thanks :D
[07:58] <morbyt1> hardy uses pulseaudio as default. does this mean, any program with any sound-interface plays through pulse? or may they bypass pulse and play directly on alsa or oss?
[07:58] <Flannel> Bloodhound: since, if its just for your own use/people you know, ther's a more secure/robust (and easier to set up) method.  sftp
[07:59] <jalonso> hello everyone
[07:59] <Flannel> Bloodhound: sftp is as easy as installing openssh-server... and, then you're done.
[07:59] <jalonso> I can't access my "Places"
[07:59] <Bloodhound> oke that sounds cool
[07:59] <Bloodhound> but am i able to set passwords, and what do you need to connect to the server?
[07:59] <jalonso> it says no default action has been associated with this place
[08:00] <jalonso> any ideas on what i can do?
[08:00] <Flannel> Bloodhound: it will use regular user accounts, so create users for your friends (through users and groups)
[08:00] <Flannel> Bloodhound: To connect, you use any sftp client.  Almost any graphical FTP client can do sftp.  Filezilla is one (which works in both Linux and Windows)
[08:00] <Bloodhound> Flannel, oke =) sounds great how to get it? with synaptec?
[08:00] <Flannel> Bloodhound: yeah, install "openssh-server"
[08:01] <Flannel> Bloodhound: And then you just need to make sure you forward port 22 on your router to your computer.
[08:01] <Bloodhound> yeah,
[08:02] <Bloodhound> but that is openssh server
[08:02] <Bloodhound> not sftp?
[08:02] <Bloodhound> or am i stupid now =)
[08:02] <Flannel> Bloodhound: Right.  it does both.  ssh and sftp (and scp)
[08:02] <Flannel> Bloodhound: sftp (and scp) are done through ssh, basically.
[08:02] <Bloodhound> oke, now its clear =)
[08:03] <Bloodhound> ok i have it
[08:03] <jalonso> I love Windows
[08:03] <Bloodhound> Flannel,  how do i set it up?
[08:03] <alexbobp> jalonso: :P
[08:03] <Bloodhound> like wich folders i want to share,
[08:04] <chalcedony> Flannel i'm trying to connect my ubuntu hardy box to the new router. dhclient gives: "No working leases in persistent database -- sleeping -- i'm not sure if the response i'm getting with ifconfig is what i got when it worked. what else can i do ?
[08:04] <jalonso> alexbobp: ok now that I got your attention, can I get some help :) ?
[08:04] <chalcedony> jalonso ;)
[08:04] <alexbobp> jalonso: don't ask to ask
[08:04] <jalonso> I already asked but noone listened :(
[08:05] <chalcedony> alexbobp question  i wrote to flannel
[08:05] <Flannel> Bloodhound: That'll be through regular folder permissions.  Basically, create their users, and if you want to share with them, add everyone to some new group, make a new folder, make it owned by that group, etc. (actually, theres a hundred ways to set this up, just remember, its through regular permissions)
[08:05] <casemods> anybody know how to install wine?
[08:05] <Bloodhound> oke
[08:05] <jalonso> alexbobp: ok, why cant I access "Places"?
[08:05] <Bloodhound> so if i login with my own name, i can access all files on my computer? =)
[08:05] <alexbobp> jalonso: what's "places"?
[08:05] <Flannel> casemods: sudo apt-get install wine also, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[08:05] <Flannel> Bloodhound: yeah
[08:05] <alexbobp> casemods: the wine website has a repo you can add
[08:05] <Bloodhound> ah
[08:06] <alexbobp> casemods: and the normal repos have an outdated version
[08:06] <Flannel> Bloodhound: well, all of *your* files
[08:06] <Bloodhound> so only in the home folder =)
[08:06] <Flannel> Bloodhound: well, you can view files outside of the home folder from your regular account
[08:06] <jalonso> alexbobp: it's the menu up on top on the panel next to Accessories and before "system"
[08:06] <alexbobp> chalcedony: I don't know what that message means, sorry
[08:06] <Flannel> Bloodhound: Basically, open up nautilus, everything you can browse to from there, you'll be able to browse through with sftp.
[08:06] <Bloodhound> hmm
[08:07] <alexbobp> jalonso: what is it supposed to do, and what do you mean you can't access it?
[08:07] <Bloodhound> isn't that a security risk?
[08:07] <chalcedony> alexbobp please read the question  i wrote to Flannel, he seems to be busy
[08:07] <Flannel> chalcedony: is this wifi or ethernet?
[08:07] <jalonso> alexbobp: it says that no default action has been associated with it, if I click it the drop down menu is supposed to open up my home directory
[08:08] <alexbobp> jalonso: you probably need to go to your filetype associations and set the default viewer for directories
[08:08] <jalonso> alexbobp: Oh, where is that at?
[08:09] <alexbobp> jalonso: I dunno, it's been a while since I used a graphical file browser, but check in the control panel
[08:09] <chalcedony> Flannel ethernet.
[08:09] <Flannel> Bloodhound: I don't know if I'd call it a security risk.  But, there's the potential for a security risk I guess, sure.  If you have strong passwords you'll be fine.  If you're worried about brute force, you might want to look into something like DenyHosts, that'll lock someone out after they fail logging in X times.
[08:09] <alexbobp> jalonso: you might also be able to set it by right-clicking a folder and hitting properties
[08:09] <Flannel> chalcedony: Do you know your router is doing DHCP?  Try setting up a static IP address, that might fix it
[08:10] <jalonso> alexbobp: good enough, I'll try both those things. Thanks for all the help
[08:10] <Bloodhound> oke =)
[08:10] <alexbobp> jalonso: good luck
[08:10] <Bloodhound> thanks! Flannel =)
[08:10] <jalonso> alexbobp: thanks again!
[08:10] <Flannel> Bloodhound: If you do just want to have anonymous ftp, that's fairly easy to set up too: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[08:10] <lrc> When I setup nis authentication and automount,I use su - nisuser at first time,it can't find the home directory,so I exit and su - nisuser again,then it success,some guys konw why,and how can I correct it?
[08:12] <Bloodhound> oke will look at that =)
[08:12] <Flannel> Bloodhound: I mean, sure, technically anyone can log in as you (assuming they get your password) and do whatever.  Installing SSH is by definition more dangerous than not.
[08:12] <chalcedony> Flannel the router is doing dhcp. that's not supposed to affect it?
[08:12] <Flannel> Bloodhound: I don't want to mislead you
[08:12] <blimey85> could someone tell me how to use websvn? I installed it and did the configure during the install, but now what? I have svn available at svn.domain but how do I setup websvn to actually use it now?
[08:13] <blimey85> I can't even find a manual anywhere for this thing
[08:13] <Bloodhound> oke, thanks!
[08:13] <Bloodhound> but i have to go!
[08:13] <Bloodhound> bye
[08:13] <chalcedony> bye Bloodhound
[08:15] <Flannel> chalcedony: do you see yourself with an IP address when you sudo ifconfig?
[08:15] <erpo> I can't seem to record audio. When I run arecord -vv /dev/null, it shows 00% volume.
[08:17] <blimey85> I think I figured it out
[08:17] <ph8> Ayabara:  no worries :)
[08:17] <lesergi> hi all, good morning
[08:17] <blimey85> lesergi: morning!
[08:17] <petrele> hi
[08:17] <sd132> wow mint is nice
[08:18] <petrele> here what are we talking about?
[08:18] <Flannel> petrele: Ubuntu support
[08:18] <Flannel> petrele: If you want to chat, you want to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:19] <petrele> this is my first time
[08:19] <Tim> Hi. I accidentally managed to uninstall gdm. Can replace via repo as no network connection on laptop.
[08:19] <HermenL> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:19] <Tim> I tried apt-cdrom -d /media/cdrom add
[08:19] <HermenL> sry
[08:20] <Flannel> Tim: Or you can just sneakernet it, ifyou have a USB drive
[08:20] <Tim> I tried to  use Hardy CD But the CD-ROM unmounts and asks for the rest of CDs in set (?)
[08:20] <Flannel> Tim: or a floppy or whatnot.  http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy-updates/gdm
[08:20] <p4_xxx> is there another firewall software for ubuntu? im using Firestarter.
[08:21] <Flannel> Tim: Is there no internet on this machine at all, ever?
[08:21] <Tim> Flannel: Cool. I'll prob. be back to see how to get the OSB srive accessed from CLI @)
[08:21] <blimey85> ok, my websvn install points to my regular svn install and I can't see anyway to get a diff of two files... very frustrating!
[08:21] <blimey85> Anyone have a link to how to set this thing up?
[08:21] <Flannel> Tim: No, wait.  If you're not ever connected, that's not how you want to solve it.
[08:21] <Tim> Flannel: OK.
[08:21] <Tim> Flannel: Yes, had wifi before.
[08:21] <Flannel> Tim: So, its just now that gdm is gone you don't have wifi?
[08:22] <Tim> Flannel: I mean before gdm deleted.
[08:22] <Tim> Flannel: Yes.
[08:22] <Flannel> Tim: Try 'startx' after logging in
[08:23] <devedse> foodbot
[08:23] <devedse> ben je er
[08:23] <Flannel> !nl | devedse
[08:23] <Zeroyez> hey does anyone know about vbox seamless? i've tried asking the vbox channel but all they do is idle
[08:24] <devedse> wth
[08:24] <devedse> this is not ubuntu NL?
[08:24] <Flannel> devedse: nope, this is #ubuntu
[08:24] <Zeroyez> trying to stop the gnome bottom toolbar from covering up the windows xp toolbar :/
[08:24] <happihippo_> what about vbox seamless?
[08:25] <happihippo_> it doesn't work very good (the background gets kinda messed up)
[08:25] <blimey85> so I'm guessing nobody here uses websvn... hmm....
[08:25] <Zeroyez> i was wondering if it's possible to make the xp taskbar move up like 24 or so pixels so i can still see my gnome toolbar
[08:25] <Zeroyez> hey i said that to the vbox channel too they said they had no idea whta i was talking about lol
[08:25] <Zeroyez> least i'm not the only one with the background messing up problem
[08:26] <happihippo_> yeah, I think you can drag the xp toolbar and make it double height
[08:26] <morbyt1> does this paste mean, that i am able to use pulse? http://paste.ubuntu.com/32500/
[08:27] <Zeroyez> oh that worked, wow wonder how i never thought of that
[08:27] <Zeroyez> thanks
[08:27] <happihippo_> np
[08:27] <happihippo_> I think the background issue is a little better if you set it to no wallpaper in xp
[08:28] <Zeroyez> yeah, altho the doubling the toolbar thing does get annoying when you click it and then it covers your gnome bar
[08:28] <Zeroyez> taskbar war >:o
[08:28] <Flannel> Zeroyez: move it to the left/right?
[08:28] <Zeroyez> i'm not skilled enough to live with that kind of movement
[08:29] <happihippo_> On my desktop, I got rid of the bottom task bar, and moved the task switcher up to the top menu bar
[08:29] <Zeroyez> oh you can do that?
[08:29] <Adremelech> yes
[08:30] <Zeroyez> aha figured it out already
[08:31] <happihippo_> and you don't need the workspace switcher applet, just use compiz, much more whiz bang anyways
[08:31] <Zeroyez> and now this channel reads my mind...
[08:31] <Zeroyez> gets more convenient every time i look at it :)
[08:32] <glitsj16> morbyt1: you need to add yourself (and any other users you want to use pulse) to the pulse, pulse-access and pulse-rt groups .. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio has some more usefull info on how to configure pulseaudio if you haven't seen that already
[08:33] <ld> hi, is there a way to switch to kernel 2.6.26?
[08:33] <MikeSeth> ld: install it?
[08:33] <Flannel> ld: Not easily, no.  You'll get it when you upgrade to Intrepid (not yet)
[08:33] <Zeroyez> now that i've given all the functionality to the top bar, how can i make the bottom bar go away?
[08:33] <Flannel> Zeroyez: right click, "remove panel"
[08:34] <Zeroyez> thanks
[08:34] <ld> ok, then is there a way to use the latest cx88 module with the current kernel? I have a leadtek winfast tv2000 global card and it's not in the current cx88 module's supported list...
[08:35] <pbn> Hi there. At boot time, I don't get the splashscreen anymore, I get all the messages of the boot process. I did put "quiet splash" in /boot/grub/menu.lst and I did run grub-install /dev/sda. I still get the boot messages... How can I solve this ? Thank you...
[08:37] <Zeroyez> oh yeah i forgot to ask, the startup screen for ubuntu (the one where the orange bar goes back and forth) goes on for like 8 minutes on my computer
[08:37] <Zeroyez> is there a way to show the actual things that are happening during it so i can see what i need to do to fix it?
[08:37] <Zeroyez> i'm guessing they're all motherboard errors
[08:38] <moDumass> hey all, cant connect to localhost after an update, google seems more windows errorry, any ideas or directions would be awesome
[08:38] <moDumass> please help me out if you can help me learn something
[08:38] <happihippo_> hit the esc key and you can see what it's doing behind the splash
[08:38] <_atka_> hello
[08:39] <roe_> moDumass, what is your problem?
[08:39] <MikeSeth> Zeroyez: that shouldn't happen
[08:39] <moDumass> roe_ i  cant go to localhost via firefox
[08:39] <roe_> moDumass, is your computer running a web server?
[08:39] <happihippo_> hi _atka_
[08:39] <moDumass> im trying to test a wordpress site im workin on
[08:40] <roe_> moDumass, so you have configured apache?
[08:40] <moDumass> roe_ indeed i am, localy
[08:40] <AnAnt> Hello, I'm using likewise-open to join to a windows domain, the problem is that when a new domain user logs in to the machine, nothing from /etc/skel/ is copied to his home dir.
[08:40] <moDumass> i had yeh
[08:40] <moDumass> this is a new problem
[08:40] <walter_> My mouse is going crazy on my ubuntu laptop, it lags and then scrolls without me controlling it
[08:40] <high-freq> blah if u compile somethin how do u uninstall it?
[08:40] <roe_> is apache running?
[08:41] <Zeroyez> p5w dh deluxe motherboard is filled with problems that give linux kernels a hard time running :(
[08:41] <happihippo> what kind of problems
[08:42] <glitsj16> high-freq: do you still have the build dir ?
[08:42] <genii> Zeroyez: Also the p5ke series
[08:42] <Zeroyez> well, i've only seen one problem on ubuntu, all the problems i know appear on debian
[08:43] <Zeroyez> for example unable to start xserver lol
[08:43] <moDumass> roe_ this is the error i get http://www.pastebin.org/59714
[08:43] <high-freq> glits: ya
[08:44] <happihippo> using the intergrated graphics?
[08:44] <roe_> moDumass, that is a non-critical warning
[08:44] <high-freq> glitsj16, openmotif-2.3.0 is what i installed..and still got the dir
[08:44] <Zeroyez> all graphics cards, it's just the motherboard is...weird
[08:44] <glitsj16> high-freq: okay, cd into it and run "sudo make uninstall"
[08:44] <moDumass> roe_ thats a good thing, however im guessing it is running but i cant access it
[08:44] <high-freq> kk thats right
[08:44] <high-freq> forgot the sudo hehe
[08:44] <roe_> ps aux |grep apache
[08:45] <roe_> or nmap localhost
[08:45] <roe_> is port 80 open?
[08:45] <lihoo> qq for linux is available now~~
[08:46] <happihippo> I haven't had much of a problem and I have quite a few motherboards, though I don't have the same one you have.
[08:46] <roe_> moDumass, I have to go to bet, it is approaching 4am here, you will probably have more luck in #apache, as this issue is not an ubuntu one
[08:46] <moDumass> thanks roe_
[08:47] <moDumass> youve been awesome
[08:47] <Zeroyez> so i don't suppose i can take ~28 pixels off the desktop workspace height?
[08:47] <glitsj16> high-freq: you might wanna check out a package called checkinstall .. basically what it does is replace the 'make install' for you (you just replace that by sudo checkinstal after a regular make) and it produces an entry into apt so you can easily uninstall things you compiled later on even when you ditched the compile dir ..
[08:48] <Zeroyez> so my apps don't maximize underneath the xp toolbar
[08:48]  * genii hands marmelaati a coffee
[08:49] <happihippo> is your xp toolbar locked?
[08:49] <Zeroyez> yeah
[08:50] <happihippo> Hmmm...  I don't remember encountering that issue.
[08:50] <Zeroyez> windows xp apps maximize over gnome toolbar and ubuntu apps maximize under xp taskbar
[08:50] <legend2440> pbn: can you paste the menu.lst file? in pastebin
[08:50] <legend2440> !paste
[08:51] <high-freq> glitsj16, kk will do...although can't even get past this make lol
[08:52] <glitsj16> high-freq: only a suggestion :) .. any errors from make ?
[08:52] <high-freq> installing Xlt
[08:52] <high-freq> trying to get my cellphone tethered in ubuntu and is't working as proposed lol
[08:53] <high-freq> Xlt i got the latest cvs version so now i'm gonna try to d/l the actual file and if that doesn't work then downgrade a bit on xlt
[08:54] <happihippo> I'll have to check my virtualbox setup.  I actually gave up on running seamless mode.  Hang on a minute
[08:54] <glitsj16> high-freq: okay, sound strategy lol
[08:54] <high-freq> hhe hope works
[08:55] <SleepyThor> could anything explain why Ubuntu freezing might be resulted from CCMP: decrypt failed?
[08:56] <happihippo> when I maximize xp apps, they don't cover my taskbars.  Are your ubuntu taskbars locked as well?
[08:56] <xenos76> Can someone tell me how I can remove all the files for the MySQL server and the server itself on my computer?
[08:56] <xenos76> I don't think so
[08:56] <cwillu> SleepyThor you aren't using encrypted swap or drives are you?
[08:57] <cwillu> xenos76, synaptic, right click, and hit complete-remove.  You'll probably have to poke through the dependencies and make sure they're removed as well
[08:57] <ikonia> xenos76: use synaptic and the "remove all files" option or apt-get purge mysql-server
[08:58] <happihippo> the mySQL database file is located in /var/lib/mysql
[08:58] <xenos76> Thank you ikonia, sorry I don't have synaptic.
[08:58] <ikonia> xenos76: use apt-get then
[08:59] <xenos76> ikonia: yeah thanks
[09:00] <notabene> i have ubuntu desktop version which sees only 3gb of my 4gb ram. can i somehow upgrade to server kernel without having to recompile kernel?
[09:01] <cwillu> notabene, install the server kernel
[09:01] <cwillu> !info linux-server
[09:01] <happihippo> notabene:  I think you need the 64bit version
[09:01] <Ali-J_h> irc.zodiac-sounds.com
[09:01] <Ali-J_h> irc.zodiac-sounds.com
[09:01] <Ali-J_h> irc.zodiac-sounds.com
[09:02] <FloodBot1> Ali-J_h: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:02] <ikonia> notabene: is there a reason you only used the 32 bit version
[09:02] <notabene> ﻿cwillu, can i install server kernel over my current desktop kernel? and if yes, how?
[09:02] <cwillu> ikonia, happihippo, the server kernel has support for pae
[09:02] <cwillu> notabene, sure
[09:02] <notabene> just using apt?
[09:02] <ikonia> cwillu: I know, but I'm asking why 64bit desktop was not used as the server kernel has other limitations against the desktop
[09:03] <notabene> ikonia, what limitiations does server have against desktop?
[09:03] <cwillu> notabene, are you using a 64 bit computer?
[09:03] <genii> cwillu: Incidentally linux-server or ubuntu-server is not a package. LAMP needs tasksel
[09:03] <happihippo> notabene, does your board support 4gb?
[09:03] <ikonia> notabene: the restricted drivers for example
[09:03] <notabene> my hardware does support 4gb
[09:03] <cwillu> genii, linux-server 'This packages ... latest complete linux kernel available'
[09:04] <ikonia> notabene: if you want a desktop experience, and your hardwae supports it, you may want to consider installing the 64bit desktop
[09:04] <notabene> and can i install 64 bit desltop kernel over current one?
[09:04] <cwillu> genii, linux-server is the package he wants
[09:04] <ikonia> notabene: no, you'd need to re-install the whole desktop
[09:04] <notabene> i see
[09:04] <cwillu> notabene, are you running a 64bit computer?
[09:04] <cwillu> if you aren't, it's a moot point
[09:05] <genii> cwillu: Interesting, must be recent. Previously only way was with tasksel
[09:05] <cwillu> genii, eh?
[09:06] <cwillu> since fiesty at least
[09:06] <notabene> ﻿cwillu, yes but i dont want 64bit version because of possible software compatibility problems
[09:06] <cwillu> Also, there are restricted modules for -server
[09:06] <cwillu> although you have to also install linux-restricted-modules-server to get them I believe
[09:06] <genii> cwillu: I learn something new every day :)
[09:06] <cwillu> genii, :)
[09:06] <ikonia> cwillu: it's not a complete set though
[09:07] <cwillu> ikonia, well, it includes nvidia, fglrx, madwifi, etc
[09:07] <ikonia> cwillu: it does contain the basics, didn't think madwifi is in there though
[09:08] <cwillu> ikonia, just checked, they're actually the same as of hardy
[09:08] <ikonia> cwillu: thats a nice update
[09:08] <cwillu> I think that's a side effect of the cfs issues late in the release cycle (needed to run -server in order to get any sort of sane performance)
[09:08] <Masteredu> hi , i have a big problem , all time when i start my computer new , the tastatur layout goes back to usa
[09:08] <Masteredu> but i have configured germany
[09:08]  * e-jat down down down 
[09:08] <Masteredu> and the germans dont help me
[09:09] <cwillu> tastatur?
[09:09] <Masteredu> ...
[09:09] <Masteredu> ja
[09:09] <cwillu> ?
[09:09] <Masteredu> ah ja
[09:09] <Masteredu> i mean keyboard :( ^^
[09:09] <zk_> 'ello...can someone point me to a good Internet Sharing Guide in Ubuntu?
[09:09] <cwillu> ah, k.  Where are you setting it?
[09:10] <cwillu> zk_, can you be more specific?
[09:10] <cwillu> sharing the connection, or sharing files?
[09:10] <Masteredu> System> settings>keyboard
[09:10] <Masteredu> :(
[09:10] <cwillu> which ubuntu do you have installed?
[09:10] <cwillu> u, k, x or edu?
[09:10] <zk_> i want to share pppoe internet connection to a windows machine...i found some guides and used firestarter but haven't managed to make it work
[09:11] <Masteredu> ubuntu 8.04 Hardy
[09:11] <Masteredu> and i dont will new install
[09:11] <Masteredu> becouse i have many songs and games on my pc
[09:11] <cwillu> ubuntu doesn't have system | settings, do you mean system | preferences | keyboard?
[09:11] <Masteredu> jeah
[09:12] <Masteredu> sorry
[09:12] <Masteredu> i have the german
[09:12] <Masteredu> ubuntu
[09:12] <FloodBot1> Masteredu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:12] <Masteredu> i dont know the english options
[09:12] <cwillu> is it prompting you when you log in whether to use the x settings or the gnome settings?
[09:12] <SNuxoll> !de | Masteredu
[09:12] <Masteredu> no
[09:12] <Masteredu> it starts normal
[09:12] <cwillu> SNuxoll, already said he wasn't getting help there :p
[09:12] <SNuxoll> cwillu: heh, habit
[09:13] <Masteredu> hm , what i now have to do
[09:13] <Masteredu> cant i reinstall the keyboard settings?
[09:14] <happihippo> Masteredu:  you go into the settings and do keyboard preferences and it doesn't stay?
[09:14] <Masteredu> ?
[09:14] <Masteredu> it stands german
[09:15] <Masteredu> but it is usa layout
[09:15] <Masteredu> and then i click make default options ore something
[09:15] <Masteredu> and then i add german and delete usa and first then it goes ...
[09:15] <sravan> do i need nvidia  card to use the compiz settings for desktop?
[09:15] <casso> change it in your xorg.conf
[09:15] <cwillu> Masteredu, are you hitting 'reset to defaults' maybe?
[09:15] <cwillu> right beside add?
[09:15] <Felony> hello... i need to renable grub. I was dual booting xp and ubuntu. I was forced to reinstall windows which rewrote the mbr so that grub is no longer my bootloader
[09:15] <Masteredu> ß
[09:16] <Felony> what do I do?
[09:16] <cautionaryx> sravan, i think it makes it a lot easier to set up
[09:16] <cwillu> Masteredu, reset to defaults would undo whatever change you just made
[09:16] <DistroJockey> sravan, nope, intel and ati are also very well supported (maybe others)
[09:16] <Masteredu> i mean  when i will have a german layout i first must i first delete the german and make default then add german and delete default
[09:16] <Masteredu> first then i have german
[09:17] <cwillu> Felony, I _think_ the ubuntu livecd has an option to fix grub
[09:17] <cwillu> !grub
[09:17] <happihippo> Masteredu:  add the german layout.  Select default, then delete the US layout
[09:17] <Felony> lol a floppy? oh jesus
[09:17] <Masteredu> ?
[09:17] <cwillu> Felony, uh, no
[09:17] <cwillu> Felony, that's one option, but it's not the only one :p
[09:17] <sravan> Distrojockey, i install all required files ,and changed all settings but i coudn't make the desktop to rotate
[09:18] <legend2440> cwillu: Masteredu   read post # 3       http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=813567
[09:18] <DistroJockey> sravan, do you have any effects?
[09:18] <Masteredu> i have do what you say
[09:18] <DistroJockey> !ccsm | sravan
[09:18] <notabene> ook i installed server kernel, rebooted and voila! its fine with ram
[09:18] <Masteredu> happihippo
[09:19] <Masteredu> but i dont will do this all time
[09:19] <Masteredu> :(
[09:19] <hexpuem> how do i fix issues with dpkg-divert? xorg-driver-fglrx is completely broken
[09:19] <cwillu> Masteredu, the link he gave you describes how to set it up to run every time
[09:19] <happihippo> Masteredu:  It doesn't stay that way after you reboot?
[09:19] <cwillu> notabene, goodie!
[09:19] <Masteredu> i now will test it
[09:20] <Masteredu> but i dont think that it will stay
[09:20] <Jaffarkelshac> i have a usb video grabber (Kworld USB2800 DVD Maker) its picked up by ubuntu as eb1a:2860 eMPIA Technology, Inc. any suggestion on software to use it
[09:20] <notabene> another question: i want to connect to a windows machine located on local lan. i did this without any problem from SuSe, just typing \\ip in conqueror address bar. on ubuntu however i have problem. i installed samba, but i still cannot access windows machine. any ideas?
[09:20] <agile> .
[09:20] <cwillu> notabene, in nautilus, type smb://ip/
[09:20] <Felony> this looks pretty complicated
[09:20] <cwillu> notabene, konqueror, no idea
[09:21] <sravan> yeah i install compizconfig -settings-manger and changed all settings could'nt work   http://maketecheasier.com/make-your-ubuntu-desktop-rotate-as-a-cylindersphere/2008/07/28
[09:21] <cwillu> sravan, did you enable both 'desktop cube' and 'rotate cube'?
[09:21] <cwillu> sravan, and check what the keyboard bindings are set to?
[09:21] <casso> anyone else having issues with "cifs" and shutting down in 8.04
[09:21] <vozniakBR> my wireless aways works in 7.10 and in 8.04 now i do a fresh install and installed the driver with 'device drivers" and i cant connect to any network, no1 listening.
[09:22] <happihippo> notabene:  firewall?
[09:22] <cwillu> notabene, might have more luck in #kubuntu
[09:22] <vozniakBR> someone heaving problems with 8138 broadcom?
[09:22] <sravan> cwillu, yeah i enabled both
[09:22] <pascalou> configurer  rosegarden
[09:22] <notabene> ﻿cwillu, cool. i tried smb://ip before but it seems i needed to do smb://ip/$drive. now it worked this way
[09:22] <{Delano}> Hi... I'm just wondering, I have Ubuntu 8.04... when 8.10 comes out, will I be able to upgrade to it, or do I need to reinstall?
[09:23] <notabene> ﻿smb://ip/drive$ i meant
[09:23] <cwillu> sravan, compiz is running?  menu's and such fade in and out rather than appearing, right?
[09:23] <Masteredu> dont goes
[09:23] <cwillu> {Delano}, when the time comes, you'll be able to updrade, although it usually takes an hour or so
[09:23] <Masteredu> happyhippo
[09:24] <legend2440> Masteredu   read post # 3       http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=813567
[09:24] <casso> anyone else having issues with "cifs" and shutting down in 8.04??
[09:24] <SNuxoll> !repeat | casso
[09:24] <casso> just got told
[09:24] <sravan> cwillu, i could not see any changes in my setting,
[09:24] <DistroJockey> casso, more info would also help :)
[09:24] <{Delano}> cwillu, that's reassuring; I was under the impression that I'd have to reinstall constantly if I wanted to keep up to date, like you have to do when new versions of Windows comes out
[09:24] <cwillu> casso, I'm about to google for ubuntu cifs shutdown.  You should be hoping I don't find the solution in the first 5 links
[09:24] <sravan> cwillu, i am new to linux im learning now
[09:25] <notabene> is there better filemanager asides nautilus? something like conqueror? nautilus is a bit uncomfortable
[09:25] <casso> CIFS is used for mounting samba network drives (replaced smb)
[09:25] <DistroJockey> casso, on your issue
[09:25] <cwillu> sravan, go to applications | accessories | terminal, and run pidof compiz.real, tell me what it sayrs
[09:25] <casso> get msg's saying can't un mount cifs drive and hangs for 2 mins then powers off
[09:26] <cwillu> casso, surprise surprise, the first link on google for 'ubuntu cifs shutdown' describes your problem and how to fix it :p
[09:26] <happihippo> notabene:  terminal ;)
[09:26] <DistroJockey> cwillu, :)
[09:26] <lunch> .
[09:26]  * cwillu pokes casso with a pointy stick
[09:26] <sravan> cwill, just pidof compiz. any syntax required?
[09:26] <utnubudnai> I want to get some books about AT&T assembly language!but I can not find anywhere!
[09:26] <casso> cheers, i did a search about 2 weeks ago, none fixed it, things must have changed
[09:26] <utnubudnai> who can help me?
[09:26] <cwillu> sravan, exactly this:  pidof compiz.real
[09:27] <ikonia> utnubudnai: thats not for this channel
[09:27] <ikonia> utnubudnai: this is for ubuntu support requests only
[09:27] <Masteredu> i will reboot by
[09:27] <utnubudnai> ikonia, where should i go then?
[09:27] <ikonia> utnubudnai: not here
[09:27] <sravan> cwillu, no changes
[09:27] <cwillu> sravan, what did it say?
[09:27] <cwillu> sravan, we haven't done anything yet, I'm just trying to get information :p
[09:28] <sravan> cwillu, ok
[09:28] <Masteredu> JuHu ! it works thank you ! :) ^^
[09:28] <cwillu> sravan, if it said a number, tell me the number, if it just left you at a sravan@sravan-desktop: prompt, then tell me that too :)
[09:29] <cwillu> utnubudnai, #ubuntu-offtopic would be a start
[09:29] <utnubudnai> cwillu, thank you!
[09:29] <sravan> cwillu, it just left with sravan@sravan-laptop:
[09:29] <cwillu> sravan, okay, compiz isn't running
[09:30] <cwillu> sravan, run:  glxinfo | grep direct
[09:30] <cwillu> and tell me what it says
[09:30] <teoden> Hello. Someone know alpine, the email client? I have some problem with it. T_T
[09:31] <Hew> I've installed kubuntu-desktop on top of my standard Ubuntu install, and I'm now getting weird theme issues when I'm using gdm. Is this to be expected (ie. I should only use kdm from now on), or is this a bug?
[09:31] <casso> k, got another for ya, etax2008 in wine (how to get past the rollover section)
[09:31] <sravan> cwillu, direct rendring : yes
[09:31] <_zenon_> How do I order my installed packets by date?
[09:31] <_zenon_> So that I can see which packets I installed most recently etc
[09:31] <cwillu> casso, -> #wine, might search for winedb, and look for that app there
[09:31] <generalsnus> OK,i am in a desperate need of setting up a LDAP/file server for the following purpose: authentication and central storage of users /home folders. I have tried a lot of tutorials..but i havent had any success yet. ive tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmbLdapInstaller aswell. In my dream scenario, i would want to use MS AD for auth and sharing of /home folders
[09:32] <legend2440> Masteredu:   did you add   setxkbmap      to Sessions   Startup?
[09:32] <casso> i have, everyone was getting stuck at the pre-filing stage, got past that...
[09:32] <cwillu> sravan, what happens when you go to system | preferences | appearance | visual effects <tab> | and hit normal (or anything other than none, actually)
[09:32] <johnz> hi, is there someone that understand ANT and SCP I can't get it to work.
[09:33] <cwillu> casso, I don't live in the us, so I can't help you there :p
[09:33] <casso> k, cheers anyway
[09:33] <cwillu> johnz, what is ant?
[09:33] <johnz> it's like maven
[09:33] <casso> hang on, i'm is australia
[09:33] <johnz> you build up an env.
[09:33] <cwillu> casso, let me rephrase, I live in canada ;p
[09:33] <casso> k
[09:33] <happihippo> ant = little buggers that crawl all over my food ;)
[09:34] <johnz> hahaha
[09:34] <johnz> :P
[09:34] <cwillu> johnz, oh, you mean the build tool, and the ssh tool?
[09:34] <johnz> yes
[09:34] <casso> over here, the gov makes crap soft...
[09:34] <johnz> it's a build tool
[09:34] <cwillu> wasn't sure that's what you meant, seeing as they're not usually capitalized :p
[09:34] <cwillu> what's the problem?
[09:34] <cwillu> casso, that's every government ever
[09:34] <Image-Guru> so what
[09:34] <cwillu> casso, here, they tend to make crappy websites, but that's easier to deal with :)
[09:34] <johnz> I can't get it to exec the part with scp file transfer
[09:35] <cwillu> johnz, get an error message?
[09:35] <BoomSie> scp FTW! :D
[09:35] <cwillu> johnz, (mind changing your nick?  there's 4 other john's that come up before yours when I hit tab :p)
[09:35] <johnz> No, actually no.. I will paste my ANT XML and you might find it quite easy if you have done this before
[09:35] <casso> suppose, our gov website is ok, so i'll stop wingeing
[09:35] <cwillu> !pastebin | johnz,
[09:36] <johnz> yes, I will do that don't worry
[09:36] <cwillu> johnz, had me worried :)
[09:36] <cwillu> sravan, any luck?
[09:36] <greek> who wants cybersex??
[09:36] <_zenon_> How do I order my installed packets by date? So that I can see which packets I installed most recently etc
[09:36] <sravan> cwillu, background becomes blur
[09:36] <_zenon_> Someone?
[09:37] <greek> hello
[09:37] <DistroJockey> _zenon_, do you have Synaptic?
[09:37] <_zenon_> DistroJockey, Yes
[09:37] <cwillu> sravan, does it work though?
[09:38] <cwillu> sravan, make sure you don't have the blur plugin enabled (for real)
[09:38] <DistroJockey> _zenon_, It has a History option in the File menu (tis handy)
[09:38] <johnz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/32518/
[09:38] <utnubudnai> greek,what is cybersex
[09:38] <cwillu> utnubudnai, stop
[09:38] <_zenon_> DistroJockey, Oh, I didn't know that
[09:38] <casso> _zenon_, don't know about that but there is history in synaptic
[09:38] <johnz> please take a look.. do you see what I'm doing wrong
[09:38] <utnubudnai> cwillu, why?
[09:38] <DistroJockey> _zenon_, :)
[09:38] <johnz> The SCP part is the one at the bottom...
[09:38] <cwillu> utnubudnai, because you want to stay in this channel :p
[09:38] <_zenon_> DistroJockey, How do you generate that history on command line?
[09:39] <utnubudnai> OK,I know that it's a bad word!
[09:39] <DistroJockey> _zenon_, not sure really, that's why I use it :)
[09:39] <sravan_> cwillu, it,s not enable
[09:39] <notabene> actually, what does restricted package mean?
[09:40] <cwillu> johnz, have you set up public keys or anything?
[09:40] <casso> _zenon_, don't know
[09:40] <_zenon_> DistroJockey, Is that list complete? Seems to be missing something.
[09:40] <yowler> hey, can someone just say my name here? just trying irssi if it blinks when I get a new msg
[09:40] <sravan_> cwiilu , i lost all the minimze windows
[09:40] <_zenon_> casso, Is it wrong to assume it only keeps track of synaptic-mastered installs?
[09:40] <cwillu> sravan, what kind of video card do you have?
[09:40] <linxeh> yowler: boo
[09:40] <DistroJockey> _zenon_, should be (and I assume will be the same output as whatever the cli command is)
[09:40] <johnz> yowler
[09:41] <cwillu> johnz, can you log in to that host via the command line?
[09:41] <sravan_> cwillu, ati
[09:41] <yowler> didnt work
[09:41] <yowler> what irc clients do you all use?
[09:41] <_zenon_> yowler, xchat
[09:41] <plouffe> I keep losing my sound on Ubuntu and can't get it back without rebooting the computer. It happens a lot now.
[09:41] <_zenon_> DistroJockey, Hm... ok, thanks
[09:41] <yowler> plouffe: it happens to me when using the same time firefox and amarok to play music
[09:41] <cwillu> plouffe, next time it happens, close firefox completely, and try again, ping me if that gets it working again
[09:41] <plouffe> I have tried that, doesn't work
[09:41] <am1> Hi all.  Sorry to interrupt.  Anybody know if the 8.10alpha3 has fixes for the PulseAudio issues?  I need to make some recordings in a few days, and I haven't been able to get my USB microphone to work.  I'm tired of messing around with it.  I figure I could downgrade to 7.10 (which worked fine) or see if the Alphas are any better.
[09:42] <plouffe> cwillu I have tried that it didn't help
[09:42] <DistroJockey> _zenon_, no problem. You could also look in  /var/cache/apt/archives/  at the file dates (there is a command to do what you want though I am sure)
[09:42] <cwillu> am1, downgrade then.  don't inflict 8.10 on yourself, it's not ready
[09:42] <yowler> plouffe: kill your music player too if there is any
[09:42] <plouffe> cwillu I also tried killing and restarting audiopulse, doesn't help
[09:42] <_zenon_> DistroJockey, Thanks :)
[09:42] <cwillu> am1, if you have work to do, don't mess around with alpha operating systems :p
[09:42] <DistroJockey> _zenon_, you're welcome
[09:42] <johnz> cwilly, what do you mean
[09:42] <plouffe> yowler no music player running atm
[09:42] <cwillu> johnz, cwillu :p
[09:43] <cwillu> johnz, can you log in to that server with that user name and that password via ssh?
[09:43] <cwillu> plouffe, is it broken right now?
[09:43] <sravan_> cwillu, is it possble for u to remote login to my laptop and show me how to do it?
[09:43] <plouffe> cwillu yes
[09:43] <johnz> no, it's blocked from outside
[09:43] <yowler> It happens to me quite often, all I do is kill firefox ps and amaroks ps.
[09:43] <Flannel> am1: Ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:44] <cwillu> johnz, I'm a bit confused
[09:44] <glitsj16> am1: besides the good advice concerning downgrading, there's http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=866965 which concentrates on pulseaudio fixes in intrepid alpha 3 if you haven't seen that already
[09:44] <cwillu> johnz, where are you running the ant script from?
[09:44] <johnz> from ant.. and yes I can connet, but it you try it will fail
[09:45] <cwillu> johnz, does apt have a scp target that knows how to specify a password automatically?
[09:45] <cwillu> johnz, because you're not specifying the password in the scp target
[09:45] <edmoore> anyone here about to help me design a headless server box for $500 for max compatibility with ubuntu server?
[09:46] <edmoore> anyone here able*
[09:46] <johnz> cwillu no
[09:46] <cwillu> plouffe, and firefox is closed right now?
[09:46] <johnz> okey, I have done that to.. didn't work
[09:46] <johnz> lets test again
[09:46] <Flannel> edmoore: try #ubuntu-server or #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:46] <cwillu> johnz, show me
[09:46] <plouffe> cwillu I restarted it, but I will close it again
[09:46] <edmoore> Flannel: grand, thank you
[09:46] <plouffe> cwillu closed now, cache cleared
[09:47] <cwillu> plouffe, cache wasn't necessary :p
[09:47] <am1> Thanks guys.  glitsj16: I saw some similar instructions for 8.04 and tried them with no luck.  But I'm tempted to try the alpha, although I understand cwillu's warning.
[09:47] <plouffe> cwillu I'm just saying it. I have nothing else running, but I get no sound anywhere if I try
[09:47] <johnz> okej
[09:47] <kane77> can I somehow change the resolution of the text terminal?
[09:48] <yowler> plouffe: which player were you using again?
[09:48] <cwillu> kane77, ctrl [+], ctrl [-]
[09:48] <plouffe> flash plugin in firefox. But it's the same for ekiga or totem etc
[09:48] <johnz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/32521/
[09:48] <johnz> look at this then
[09:48] <plouffe> yowler It's been happening for the last couple of days
[09:49] <cwillu> johnz, I'm not sure, but I don't think scp lets you provide the password on the command line.  let me check though
[09:49] <johnz> thx
[09:49] <cwillu> johnz, easiest thing to do would be to run ssh-keygen on your local box
[09:50] <johnz> cause that's not working
[09:50] <gunnar> hi, after installing dmraid and successfully set up a Nvraid .. when rebooting i get a Easybox shell.. ?
[09:50] <yowler> plouffe: Try downgrading firefox prior to 3.0 just to see if the issue resides in firefox
[09:50] <arcsky> anyone know if its possible that when i make a new tab in firefox i want it to go autmaticlly to www.google.com  ?
[09:50] <cwillu> johnz, and then copy the contents of ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub into a file called /home/<login name>/.ssh/authorized_keys
[09:50] <MaGiCShRooM> kalhmera :)
[09:50] <cwillu> johnz, then it won't need a password to authenticate
[09:50] <yowler> mine is in firefox
[09:50] <plouffe> yowler I am using 32bit firefox on 64bit amd. I couldn't get java to run on regular firefox
[09:50] <johnz> okey, but I would rather get this working
[09:51] <plouffe> It's version 2.x
[09:51] <cwillu> johnz, you can't specify a password to scp like that
[09:51] <johnz> it should work.. I'm just to stupied to get it to work
[09:51] <johnz> let me se ?
[09:51] <glitsj16> am1: well you can always run the intrepid alpha 3 if you have the HD space and do the work on a more stable 8.04 kernel if needed.. and yes, the same author of that post has a well documented ubuntuforums page on pulseaudio .. it's updated recently, might be worth a second look to get pulseaudio configured properly ..
[09:52] <kane77> cwillu, hmm.. the ctrl + does not seem to work..
[09:52] <plouffe> yowler but I just clicked on a regular movie file and it ran without sound in totem movie player
[09:52] <cwillu> kane77, my bad, ctrl + shift + [+]
[09:52] <_zenon_> kane77, If you are refering to the tty's that should be done at startup
[09:52] <cwillu> (or hit ctrl + [keypad +]
[09:52] <legend2440> arcsky: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/777
[09:52] <yowler> plouffe: if you restart your pc it works again fine right?
[09:53] <plouffe> yowler I have tried with and without pulseaudio. And yes my volume is turned all the way up. And yes only way is to reboot, but it happens too often now
[09:53] <Rutz> How do I make ubuntu more lightweight?
[09:53] <yowler> it happens random or when doing something specific?
[09:53] <cens0red> a 2005 Pew Research Center poll found that 42 percent of Americans hold strict creationist views that “living things have existed in their present form since the beginning of time”
[09:54] <kane77> _zenon_, yes, I'm talking about tty's.. I just bought 22" and the resolution that it's using now makes the letters too big (and I'm not making good use of the extra space)
[09:54] <plouffe> yowler I don't know what causes it. Might be flash plugin related
[09:54] <cens0red> 64 percent said they were open to the idea of teaching creationism in addition to evolution in public schools
[09:54] <Flannel> cens0red: please stop
[09:54] <cens0red> 38 percent said they think evolution should be replaced by creationism in biology classrooms.
[09:54] <cens0red> Flannel soz. Forgot I was in this channel.
[09:54] <plouffe> yowler but it doesn't happen every time I use the flash plugin
[09:54] <_zenon_> kane77,  You could look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution
[09:55] <_zenon_> kane77, I hope you find what you seek
[09:55] <yowler> try and kill firefox proccess and reopen totem
[09:55] <cwillu> johnz, any luck?
[09:55] <kane77> _zenon_, this seems like what I'm looking for..
[09:55] <cwillu> johnz, (man scp, man ssh should be useful)
[09:55] <kane77> _zenon_, thank you
[09:55] <_zenon_> kane77, good. I wish you the best of luck.
[09:56] <plouffe> yowler I just did that, I killed firefox, it's not running and there is no sound in totem
[09:56] <yowler> hmm
[09:57] <johnz> I know how to get them to work in linux, it's more the damn ANT script..
[09:57] <Rutz> Some help me please to make ubuntu more lightweight
[09:58] <Flannel> Rutz: Have you tried xubuntu?
[09:58] <cwillu> johnz, how are you specifying the password to scp?
[09:58] <Rutz> Flannel: Is it good?
[09:58] <Flannel> Rutz: It is.  You should check it out.
[09:58] <johnz> it asks me for it
[09:58] <ufk> Rutz, define lightweight.. you don't want gnome ? or X? or kde ? or just remove unneeded applications ?
[09:59] <johnz> I'm typing it in afterwards
[09:59] <tmjb> Hello I have problem with opengl on my latop i have Intel  915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)  the and the lxinfo | grep render says OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect. How to change this ?
[09:59] <cwillu> johnz, lol, that's what I was asking long before :p
[09:59] <johnz>  ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub into a file called /home/<login name>/.ssh/authorized_keys
[09:59] <johnz> but in ant it don't ask
[09:59] <johnz> if it fails it fails
[10:00] <Rutz> ufk: I have been using windows xp for some while and I find it very fast and lightweight (booting, starting applications...) but ubuntu seems slow to me :(
[10:00] <cwillu> johnz, no, that's fine.  is /www/common/... the path, or is it /something/else/and/then/www/common/...?
[10:00] <Rutz> ufk: so I wanted a fast and easy linux, ubuntu is easy but kinda...slow
[10:01] <Sang_Prabu> hi all
[10:01] <ufk> Rutz, what hardware do you have?
[10:01] <cwillu> johnz, the scp command right now isn't working from under the users homedir, but from /
[10:01] <Rutz> ufk: it shouldn't make difference because I ran winxp on the same machine
[10:01] <Rutz> Flannel: thanks, I'll try it out a lil later
[10:01] <cwillu> johnz, so it's trying to scp from /www/common/... rather than {basedir}/www/common (presuming that basedir isn't null)
[10:01] <th0r> Rutz, consider a lighter window manager, both gnome and kde run slower than xp on most hardware
[10:01] <Bogh> ufk, how have you installed Ubuntu?
[10:02] <johnz> okej
[10:02] <ufk> Bogh, what do you mean how ?
[10:02] <Bogh> ufk, Wubi, dual boot on same HD or different HD?
[10:02] <Rutz> th0r: can you advise me some wmanagers, with as much functionality as explorer.exe in win but fast
[10:02] <johnz> so what should I change in order to get it worked man
[10:02] <RobertWHurst> hi there I'm haveing a hard lockup when runing bittorrent files is anyone willing to help?
[10:02] <Bogh> ufk, or are you running Ubuntu on the Live CD only? :-)
[10:03] <ufk> ah? xfce is faster then gnome ?
[10:03] <ufk> Bogh: no i have it installed on 5 different computers.
[10:03] <Rutz> ufk: is it not?
[10:03] <RobertWHurst> Ubuntu Hardy
[10:03] <th0r> Rutz, I like xfce as it is current and light, but I am about to try enlightenment again after years with xfce just for fun
[10:03] <cwillu> johnz, what is the dir it should be in?
[10:03] <Bogh> ufk, yeah, Xubuntu is fast
[10:03] <johnz> ${basedir}/www/common/search/enirogo/scripts
[10:03] <Rutz> I can't discern between wm and de's...
[10:03] <johnz> it should end up there
[10:03] <ufk> i didn't ask regarding Xubuntu.. i asked regarding xfce specifically
[10:03] <cwillu> johnz, scp foo@bar:baz/bing is relative to the home dir, scp foo@bar:/baz/bind is relative to the root
[10:03] <Rutz> is enlighenment de ?
[10:04] <Bogh> ufk, but Gnome should be faster than WinXP, you might have a problem with your installation/setup
[10:04] <cwillu> johnz, <arg line="${scp.username}@${scp.host}:${basedir}${scp.host.dir.css}"/> should do it then
[10:04] <Bogh> ufk, xfce is faster, yes
[10:04] <Rutz> Bogh: is kde faster too?
[10:04] <ufk> Bogh: that's why you addressed it to me.. i didn't ask any question, Rutz did.
[10:04] <th0r> Rutz, enlightenment is old tech....been around for years. It is quick and really good looking, but you need to configure EVERYTHING
[10:04] <johnz> okey testing
[10:04] <Rutz> th0r: what do you mean configure?
[10:04] <Bogh> Rutz: no
[10:05] <th0r> Rutz, you know the old linux joke....the good news is you can configure everything, the bad news is you have to configure everything
[10:05] <Rutz> Bogh: Gnome os faster than kde? I didn't notice difference when trying 7.04 in past
[10:05] <th0r> Rutz, you usually have to add new stuff manually, the menu editor leaves a lot to be desired
[10:05] <Bogh> Rutz: Some will say it's the same, some will say Gnome and other KDE. :-)
[10:06] <Rutz> th0r: if in the end it becomes superfast I'll give it my time
[10:06] <th0r> Rutz, but even after all these years if you play with the themes the interface can be gorgeous
[10:06] <cwillu> Rutz, are you running with desktop effects enabled?
[10:06] <cwillu> Rutz, windows has had a very light form of compositing forever, which does make things like exposes feel way way faster
[10:06] <Rutz> cwillu: no, I have disabled all fancy stuf I could
[10:06] <th0r> Rutz, it is fast...stick with E16...E17 has been in development for years and they have finally attained development status <smile>
[10:07] <johnz> cwillu, it don't work either
[10:07] <cwillu> Rutz, enabling desktop effects, or running xcompmgr (although it's sketchy) will improve the subjective performance
[10:07] <th0r> Rutz, E16 is available as enlightenment in synaptic
[10:07] <cwillu> johnz, what is basedir?
[10:07] <dpic> can somebody help me? i just did a fresh install of ubuntu but i think my software sources list may be broken. i can't check off "Important Security Updates (hardy-security)" in the gui
[10:07] <Rutz> cwillu: what do you measn. do you say 'it seems faster' ? :)
[10:07] <johnz> basedir  = .
[10:08] <Flannel> dpic: close the GUI, pastebin your sources.list
[10:08] <DistroJockey> dpic, what version of Ubuntu?
[10:08] <th0r> Rutz, consider running gkrellm to keep an eye on things like mem and cpu load...it will help you figure out what is consuming resources and slowing things down
[10:08] <cwillu> johnz, so, the home directory?
[10:08] <morbyt1> Rutz: thats exactly what it is :) eg minimising windows seems faster because its very smooth in visual...
[10:08] <johnz> yeah
[10:08] <dpic> DistroJockey: 8.04.1
[10:09] <morbyt1> Rutz: and doesnt waste cpu time because its mainly done by the graphics card
[10:09] <Rutz> th0r: I am talking of a fresh install actually
[10:10] <johnz> cwillu this is strange.. I should perhaps add the password to a file
[10:10] <dpic> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/m42903fb4 i've done some messing with it sine the problem occurred but this is what it looks like now
[10:10] <th0r> Rutz, fresh ubuntu runs gnome....I avoid both gnome and kde for the load they put on resources
[10:10] <Rutz> morbyt1: I disabled effects in windows too, I think you are saying some nonsense, no offence
[10:10] <dpic> cine*
[10:10] <dpic> since*
[10:10] <Rutz> th0r: so, xfce
[10:10] <Rutz> or enlightenment
[10:11] <th0r> Rutz, I agree about the effects....my idle cpu load with compiz on is over 20% without it is 1-2%
[10:11] <morbyt1> uhh
[10:11] <morbyt1> that much? :)
[10:11] <Rutz> it's not only about that, I just hate the effects, they distract:)
[10:12] <Flannel> dpic: you want to disable -proposed.  But you've got security enabled (I'd also disable backports, but thats just me)
[10:12] <th0r> Rutz, xfce first, then enlightenment. You should have a decent working xfce in a day...enlightenment will take longer
[10:12] <Rutz> I don't have reasons to have them on
[10:12] <Flannel> dpic: Does sudo apt-get update give you errors?
[10:12] <cwillu> johnz, you can't provide a password to scp without tricking it into thinking it's reading it from you directly
[10:12] <Rutz> th0r: well, I wasted quite a lot of time with windos registry tweaking too)
[10:13] <th0r> Rutz, I know....I have an entire folder full of xp tweaks.
[10:13] <Rutz> heh=)
[10:13] <mchasar1> hi
[10:13] <th0r> Rutz, the good news...there is no registry to hack <smile>
[10:13] <mchasar1> is there a special room for eeebuntu ?
[10:13] <yacc> Hmmm, how does one add defoma manually to Xorg? (I had to manually change my xorg.conf to support my touchscreen)
[10:14] <Rutz> th0r: even on 3GHz (one core) I disabled all themes and effect, I just like minimalistics...but with comfort
[10:14] <cwillu> th0r, ahem  (gconf)
[10:14] <Rutz> th0r: text files are no eeasier :P
[10:14] <cwillu> Rutz, text files can be version controlled :p
[10:14] <morbyt1> Rutz; it depends... me likes the animated minimizing of windows so i find them faster when restoring... also moving windows around the screen is more fluent and not as "shaggy" as it is w/o compiz. but still its true: "less effects are the best effects :)"
[10:14] <th0r> Rutz, I run the same way...I want the resources spent on MY tasks
[10:14] <th0r> cwillu, you are talking about gnome....we are talking xfce and enlightenment
[10:15] <cwillu> th0r, xfce uses gnome widgetry
[10:15] <Rutz> cwillu: meaning?
[10:15] <th0r> cwillu, I think it is the apps that may use gnome libs, xfce itself is independent if I am not mistaken
[10:16] <Rutz> th0r: if I install xubuntu, does it have kde/gnome applications?
[10:16] <cwillu> th0r, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-September/020951.html
[10:16] <morbyt1> th0r: is there some composite manager which is slicker than compiz?
[10:17] <th0r> Rutz, no need to install xubuntu...just install xfce4 from synaptic and then switch to it at the login screen. And yes, you can install gnome or kde apps via synaptic if you want them
[10:18] <th0r> Rutz, there are some gnome apps I use (brasero). But those libs load when I need them and unload when the app closes
[10:18] <Flannel> th0r, Rutz, xubuntu-desktop
[10:18] <th0r> morbyt1, not sure, I am not real impressed with invisible windows <smile>
[10:18] <heavensrevenge> hello
[10:19] <heavensrevenge> whats the infobash equivalent in xchat??
[10:19] <morbyt1> :)
[10:19] <heavensrevenge> i cant remember....
[10:19] <cwillu> th0r, quite handy when you're moving windows though :p
[10:20] <th0r> cwillu, I don't see why....I move the windows in xfce and enlightenment all the time and never needed to see through them
[10:20] <Rutz> I meant installing xubuntu, does the xubuntu cd also have and use gnome/kde apps
[10:20] <cwillu> Rutz, by default, x doesn't cache the contents of windows, so it you drag one window over top another, and then bring the back one back up front, it'll have to redraw the window.  The worst case is when you drag a window over and back, as you'll see it redraw a slice at a time
[10:20] <th0r> Rutz, I don't think they are on the cd....but you can get them through synaptic
[10:20] <sulo> anyone here has ubuntu on a mac?
[10:20] <cwillu> Rutz, windows does cache the contents however, and so can just blit the old contents back over top.  any compositing manager will also gain the same benefit
[10:21] <dpic> Flannel: no, apt-get update doesn't return any errors
[10:21] <arcsky> legend2440: thanks
[10:21] <heavensrevenge> what is the infobash command for xchat??
[10:21] <Flannel> dpic: Well, I'd say you're all fine.  I have no idea what's up with software sources though.
[10:21] <cwillu> th0r, it's not a debate, it _is_ useful for me, as you can see which other windows you may be obscuring, and see what's behind a window by just alt-clicking on it
[10:21] <cwillu> th0r, that it's not useful for you is a moot point :p
[10:22] <Rutz> cwillu: didn't quite understand what you are trying to say.
[10:22] <cwillu> Rutz, are you running desktop effects == None?
[10:22] <cwillu> (in the appearence panel)
[10:22] <Rutz> cwillu: yes
[10:22] <cwillu> okay
[10:22] <dpic> Flannel: alruight thanks for the help
[10:22] <Rutz> cwillu: and?
[10:22] <cwillu> maximize your xchat window, and open another smaller window
[10:23] <cwillu> (the game five-or-more, for instance)
[10:23] <cwillu> now, drag the game window wildly over the xchat window
[10:23] <th0r> heavensrevenge, info xchat or man xchat
[10:23] <heavensrevenge> oop
[10:23] <legend2440> dpic: i think this will fix it   comment out your line # 51  then try this line   deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-security main restricted multiverse
[10:23] <heavensrevenge> there we go :)
[10:23] <legend2440> dpic: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-security main restricted multiverse
[10:23] <Rutz> cwillu: hey, why do I need this, I didn't express concerns about anything like that:)
[10:23] <legend2440> dpic: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-security universe
[10:24] <Rutz> I was talking about the time needed to start an app
[10:24] <Rutz> (in ms)
[10:24] <cwillu> Rutz, it's a subjective performance improvement
[10:24] <Rutz> cwillu: so?
[10:24] <Flannel> dpic: ACtually, shouldn't that be security.ubuntu.com?  That's probably what the GUI is looking for (and why its not checked when you look)
[10:24] <th0r> cwillu, it isn't subjective if you take alook at cpu load and memory usage
[10:24] <cwillu> Rutz, seeing an application not updating it's screen after being obscured has a documented effect on the perceived performance :p
[10:24] <mark_> Hi. Can anyone tell me how to overcome the uselessness of Ekiga?
[10:24] <cwillu> th0r, which, graphics card memory and load? :p
[10:25] <Rutz> cwillu: does it have anything to do with starting an application when it wasn't running???
[10:25] <cwillu> mark_, install skype :p
[10:25] <mark_> I did. But I don't want to sign up for another PC/Phone account
[10:25] <th0r> cwillu, nope....if I turn on compiz the idle cpu load on a 1.5G cpu with 1.25G ram goes from 1-2% to over 20%....
[10:25] <cwillu> th0r, sounds like an older intel chipset :(
[10:26] <th0r> cwillu, all that 'pretty' comes at a cost
[10:26] <mark_> And I can't work out how to use the one I signed up to use on Ekiga on Skype
[10:26] <th0r> cwillu, well, I don't think we should have to buy a new computer every two years just to look good onscreen
[10:26] <cwillu> th0r, my computer's getting on 5 years old, works just fine :p
[10:26] <th0r> cwillu, especially when enlightenment will do it for free
[10:27] <magentar> in my experience compiz performs really well, even on older machines... and it only uses system ressources while visual effects are active
[10:27] <th0r> Rutz, if you really want to squeeze every bit of performance out of the computer, check out fluxbox or one of the other minimalist wm's
[10:27] <mark_> That's odd. I tried compiz and system resource usage shot up to 99% on my box
[10:27] <dpic> Flannel: line 51 was
[10:27] <dpic> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-security restricted main multiverse universe
[10:28] <cwillu> mark_, that means something is being done in software
[10:28] <cwillu> mark_, common with older intel chipsets
[10:28] <Rutz> maybe I need to completely replace all applications?
[10:28] <Flannel> dpic: hmm, try changing that to main restricted unvierse mutliverse (not that that should make a difference)
[10:28] <mark_> I have the latest AMD64
[10:28] <cwillu> mark_, no, graphics chipset
[10:28] <Flannel> dpic: Just for yucks.  See if software sources likes that (and if it does, file a bug against it, and show how you fixed it, even if it odesn't, probably worthwhile to file a bug)
[10:28] <Rutz> tell me for example, why does konsole needs 1-2 seconds to load while cmd.exe in windows needs 0.5 ?
[10:28] <mark_> Nvidia GE6 something
[10:29] <cwillu> something isn't accelerated, if you're getting 99% cpu with compiz
[10:29] <th0r> mark_, Ekiga won't support skype, only skype software will work with skype...look up the gizmo project
[10:29] <linch7> Can I just ask a support question here?
[10:29] <perfector> pulseaudio not working after kernel recompile. any idea??
[10:29] <th0r> mark_, gizmo is stock sip...so ekiga will work with it
[10:29] <dpic> Flannel: nope, still can't check it off
[10:29] <perfector> linch7, NO
[10:29] <cwillu> perfector, back up a step, why did you need to compile a kernel?
[10:29] <mark_> Link to gizmo?
[10:29] <perfector> linch7, hee hee kidding
[10:29] <Flannel> dpic: Very odd indeed.  Sounds like bugreport time.
[10:30] <perfector> cwillu, optimise it for arch
[10:30] <linch7> @ perfecor oh, got me :-)
[10:30] <mark_> I don't want to have to wade through Gremlons fans sites
[10:30] <mark_> Gremlins
[10:30] <mark_> fan
[10:30] <cwillu> perfector, don't do that, the benefits are negligible, and you lose security updates
[10:30] <ue__> Hello all, does ubuntu have ipfw support ?
[10:30] <mark_> Stupid typing
[10:30] <dpic> Flannel: but how can anyone reproduce this?
[10:30] <th0r> mark_, try gizmoproject.com...I think that is it
[10:30] <ue__> I there are iptables, but I am interested if it supports ipfw
[10:30] <legend2440> dpic: i think this will fix it   comment out your line # 51  then sudo apt-get update    sudo apt-get upgrade       then try to check the box
[10:31] <cwillu> perfector, the generic kernel has optimizations enabled (it's not an 386 kernel, it's a modern-processor-optimizations-enabled kernel :p)
[10:31] <perfector> cwillu, no thats all ok. any idea abt what modules pulseaudio requires
[10:31] <perfector> ?
[10:31] <magentar> Rutz, use xterm then, i think it'smore comparable to cmd.exe then konsole. but i think the difference is worth waiting 2 seconds ;)
[10:31] <Flannel> dpic: They probably can't, but the bug may still be find-able, and also if in a month someone else has the same issue, they'll find it, etc.
[10:31] <Rutz> magentar: what difference is there? visual?
[10:31] <cwillu> perfector, investigate module-assistant (in the repository)
[10:31] <perfector> cwillu, i used the ubuntu kernel sources though and my existing .config file
[10:31] <dpic> flannel: alrighty
[10:31] <Flannel> dpic: They'll ask for your sources.list, etc.  In theory its duplicatable.
[10:31] <magentar> well konsole has many handy features, while cmd.exe has nearly none
[10:31] <cwillu> perfector, you're not gaining anything though
[10:32] <th0r> Rutz, xterm is rather minimal....rxvt, Eterm, and xfce-terminal are all nicer and don't seem to cost any more
[10:32] <magentar> like tabbing, highlighting searching etc.
[10:32] <mark_> I've already deposited £5 in a Diamondcard account, Th0r
[10:32] <perfector> cwillu, no go again, y do u say that i do not gain?
[10:32] <mark_> I want to use that
[10:32] <th0r> mark_, what is a diamondcard account?
[10:33] <Rutz> I realize that all I need is to search for applications which best according to me, that's it...
[10:33] <mark_> It's what you need to make PC/Phone calls on Ekiga
[10:33] <Rutz> *are best
[10:33] <Rutz> kwrite is also a slow starting
[10:33] <moDumass> hey all, i unistalled foxy proxy and privoxy and now localhost is not responding
[10:33] <mark_> Why does Ekiga keep failing to register my account?
[10:34] <moDumass> oh sorry it was anonproxy that i uninstalled
[10:34] <moDumass> any ideas?
[10:34] <SNuxoll> mark_: what sip provider are you using?
[10:34] <mark_> Ekiga
[10:34] <dpic> Flannel: is this my problem? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/244093
[10:34] <SNuxoll> mark_: hrm, I use ekiga with Gizmo
[10:34] <th0r> Rutz, mousepad is a nice quick text editor. I use OOo for word processing and live with the slow performance
[10:34] <perfector> cwillu, waht optimizations were u talking abt?
[10:34] <perfector> cwillu, enlighten me pls..
[10:35] <cwillu> perfector, what cpu are you running?
[10:35] <Rutz> th0r: mousepad must be analog of notepad?
[10:35] <mark_> Yes. But I can't use Ekiga is registration keeps failing, SNuxoll
[10:35] <mark_> if
[10:35] <Rutz> in functionality
[10:35] <perfector> cwillu, intel p4
[10:35]  * SNuxoll uses LaTeX for his documents
[10:35] <mark_> Oh God will someone please invent voice control
[10:35] <th0r> Rutz, yes, pretty much. Almost all my files are simple text files so a simple editor works wonders
[10:35] <Flannel> dpic: When you click it, go to Third party software, does security show up there?
[10:36] <xorand> how do I create a new network connection to another windows computer from hardy?
[10:36] <haggis> Hi everyone! How would one go about to configure Ubuntu Server to use english as language and everything else, like time and money units, in swedish?
[10:36] <Rutz> ok, thanks everybody , I am one more step to becoming a complete linux user =)
[10:36] <magentar> xorand, places -> connect to server
[10:36] <dpic> Flannel, yes it does
[10:36] <xorand> magentar, thank you
[10:37] <Flannel> dpic: then yeah, that's your bug.  And legend2440 had already given us the workaround (or you can just wait, since it doesn't cause any problems except not showing the checkbox checked)
[10:37] <dpic> Flannel: guess i'll jsut wait. thanks for the help
[10:38] <dpic> it's getting close to 6am so i should go to bed
[10:40] <moDumass> hey all, has anyone here had anonproxy issues, i installed and then uninstalled and now everything is broken
[10:40] <moDumass> my machine takes 32mins to start and i cant see localhost
[10:40] <moDumass> so i cant really do any work
[10:40] <moDumass> and i dont understand enough to fix it
[10:40] <juris> I have kernel panic. I am using LILO (yes, LILO). I am newbie in Linux things. How Can I get back GRUB loader? Is it possible with rescue broken system option? :)
[10:40] <moDumass> plz help me out
[10:41] <MiVo> Hi all, question about the Sypnatic, why aren't the latest versions of application software there ?
[10:41] <msandbu> hmmm anyone know how to change the wifi mode from Monitor mode back to normal mode?
[10:41] <legend2440> moDumass: open /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname  and make sure /etc/hosts matches /etc/hostname
[10:41] <moDumass> legend you rock
[10:41] <moDumass> thanks
[10:42] <chalcedony> is there a pastebin that i can upload a file to, rather than pasting?
[10:42] <SNuxoll> chalcedony: there's a cli tool called pastebinit that might help
[10:43] <mark_> gizmo keeps telling me that no audio i/o devices are available
[10:43] <legend2440> moDumass: also check for hidden files referring to that proxy program in /home/yourusername folder and move or delete them
[10:43] <chalcedony> ty SNuxoll
[10:43] <SNuxoll> mark_: why are you using the official gizmo client?
[10:43] <mark_> I have a perfectly good usb phone plugged in
[10:43] <mark_> Because you told me to
[10:43] <SNuxoll> mark_: gizmo doesn't require you to use their client
[10:43] <SNuxoll> mark_: I use gizmo as my sip provider with ekiga
[10:44] <mark_> How do I do that?
[10:44] <Masteredu> how can i install amarok 2 alpha ??? i only have a folder with install copying config-amarok.h.cmake etc. :(
[10:44] <pulse00> hi all. i'm experiences random system crashes in hardy. does anyone know of any system crash log or something where i could try to track this down ?
[10:44] <SNuxoll> mark_: fire up ekiga, skip through the registration on the first run druid
[10:44] <thomc> Hi, is it possible to encrypt an external hard drive so that when plugged in it requires a password before access?
[10:44] <Masteredu> can anyone say me ??
[10:45] <moDumass> legend2440 i cant seem to open gedit in sudo
[10:45] <mark_> Especially when starting Ekiga tells me that I have some mystery program running on the port used by Ekiga
[10:45] <DistroJockey> Masteredu, read the README file?
[10:45] <SNuxoll> mark_: do you have gizmo open while opening ekiga?
[10:45] <mark_> No
[10:45] <pulse00> Masteredu, if you have a source distribution, you need to compile it
[10:45] <legend2440> moDumass:   gksudo gedit /etc/hosts   doesn't work?
[10:45] <mark_> I have nothing VoIP/SIP like open except for Ekiga and a Jabber client
[10:45] <mark_> And this
[10:46] <msandbu> hmmm anyone know how to change the wifi mode from Monitor mode back to normal mode?
[10:46] <Masteredu> how can i compile it ???
[10:46] <moDumass> legend it just throws up an error re fonts.conf
[10:46] <ufk> it seems that if i work in firefox3 and hear sound using flash9 after a while the sound card stops working, i can't hear and gnome-alsa-mixer won't even start and then it even blocks me from starting firefox again. i see no error messages in dmesg. using lenovo r61 with intel sound card. any ideas ?
[10:46] <pulse00> Masteredu, ./configure && make
[10:46] <pulse00> then sudo make install
[10:46] <moDumass> but i got mousepag to open as sudo and il navigate to the files
[10:47] <mark_> How do I fill in the user name section in the Ekiga conf druid?
[10:47] <pulse00> Masteredu, bit like DistroJockey said, reading the README file would help too
[10:47] <moDumass> legend2440 hosts has a lot more info than hostname does
[10:47] <mark_> It keeps failing
[10:48] <moDumass> hostname only has modumass-desktop
[10:48] <mark_> It does nothing but fail
[10:48] <SNuxoll> mark_: just skip that part
[10:48] <SNuxoll> mark_: you want to add the account manually anyways
[10:48] <mark_> Ok
[10:48] <SNuxoll> mark_: do you know what your gizmo number is?
[10:49] <moDumass> legend2440 which should i overwrite with which
[10:49] <mark_> I can't skip it. The forward box is greyed out
[10:49] <legend2440> moDumass: i would make backup of /etc/hosts before editing then make /etc/hosts match /etc/hostname
[10:49] <orly_owl> http://pastebin.com/d74a220e5 Anyone know how to fix this? Installing virtualbox-ose-modules-386 didn't change anything.
[10:49] <legend2440> moDumass: can you paste hostname and hosts files
[10:49] <legend2440> !paste
[10:49] <mark_> No SNUX. Where would I find it?
[10:50] <moDumass> legend2440 hostname has nothing inside it except "modumass-desktop" whereas hosts has well my localhost ip and other stuff
[10:50] <SNuxoll> mark_: did you check "I don't want to sign up for the ekiga.net free service"?
[10:50] <DistroJockey> pulse00, does  /var/log/syslog  help at all?
[10:50] <moDumass> yeh il pastebin them
[10:50] <mark_> I have now
[10:50] <mark_> Thanks
[10:50] <moDumass> legend2440 this is my hosts
[10:50] <mark_> How do I edit my account?
[10:50] <moDumass> http://www.pastebin.org/59870
[10:50] <moDumass> legend2440 http://www.pastebin.org/59870
[10:50] <moDumass> sorry
[10:51] <SNuxoll> mark_ Edit -> Accounts
[10:51] <moDumass> and hostname is entirely "evilsherpa-desktop
[10:51] <mark_> Yes. And then it gets horribly complicated
[10:51] <moDumass> "
[10:51] <DistroJockey> pulse00, also check the .0 files for the previous log
[10:51] <mark_> What's my account name?
[10:51] <mark_> Syntax
[10:51] <SNuxoll> mark_: whatever you want, that's just the label ekiga uses for it
[10:52] <SNuxoll> mark_: registrar is proxy01.sipphone.com
[10:52] <mark_> User?
[10:52] <pulse00> DistroJockey, kk, thanks
[10:52] <SNuxoll> mark_: that is your Gizmo number, get it from my.gizmo.com
[10:52] <DistroJockey> pulse00, no problem, good luck
[10:53] <pulse00> ty
[10:53] <SNuxoll> mark_: it'll be right under your Account Overview
[10:53] <MasseR> I don't have working splash. It's only black screen, can someone help me? http://paste.stgraber.org/100610 http://paste.stgraber.org/100609
[10:54] <cherva> what was the command witch puts the installed from source app in the package manager ? checkinstall or something close?
[10:54] <legend2440> moDumass:   top two lines should be     27.0.0.1	localhost
[10:54] <legend2440> 127.0.1.1	modumass-desktop
[10:54] <mark_> Registration failed
[10:54] <legend2440> moDumass: oops wait
[10:55] <legend2440> moDumass: 127.0.0.1	localhost
[10:55] <legend2440> 127.0.1.1	modumass-desktop
[10:55] <SNuxoll> mark_: make sure to remove the -'s fom your number
[10:56] <mark_> Registration failed
[10:56] <MasseR> Framebuffer works with livecd though
[10:57] <mark_> Is this my number? 1-747-346-9331
[10:57] <SNuxoll> mark_: yes
[10:57] <legend2440> moDumass: here is mine wirh your hostname inserted   http://www.pastebin.org/59901
[10:57] <mark_> Then it should have worked with the -s removed
[10:57] <SNuxoll> mark_: probably wasn't a good idea to paste that by the way
[10:57] <mark_> But it didn't
[10:57] <SNuxoll> mark_: registrar is proxy01.sipphone.com correct?
[10:57] <mark_> I don't know
[10:58] <mark_> It's what I pasted into the registrar box
[10:58] <legend2440> moDumass: you could try that one but back yours up first
[10:58] <DistroJockey> legend2440, moDumass : default install with no name changes = the following first 2 lines in /etc/hosts :  127.0.0.1       localhost   (new-line-here)   127.0.1.1       ubuntu.home.gateway     ubuntu
[10:59] <ufk> until i finally moved my bosses from xp to ubuntu.. they have 5 times the amount of bugs
[10:59] <janerik> Graphics help needed.... My 3d effects don't work like it did before. New install of ubuntu. Worked earlier
[10:59] <mark_> Should I tick the box?
[10:59] <SNuxoll> mark_: yes
[10:59] <moDumass> pk, sorry DistroJockey and legend2440 Im just reading your lines, brb
[10:59] <moDumass> processing
[11:00] <mark_> Guess what, Snux?
[11:00] <SNuxoll> mark_: what?
[11:00] <SNuxoll> mark_: "Registration failed"?
[11:00] <mark_> Correct :)
[11:00] <_victor_> where da hell is the actual xorg configuration
[11:01] <mark_> It's those stupid SI/H-323 errors, isn't it?
[11:01] <_victor_> it's all blank spots in there
[11:01] <mark_> SIP
[11:01] <BlackCow> i am having the hardest time trying to install mysql-server in ubuntu, i keep getting errors something to the effect of error processing mysql dependencies. I have no clue whats going on.. PHP and Apache are already installed fine
[11:01] <SNuxoll> mark_: quite possibly
[11:01] <moDumass> legend2440 ok, thats the way it is, sorry evilsherpa is my username
[11:01] <mark_> Can I run Ekiga without being logged into X?
[11:01] <moDumass> just changed it for confusion sake, to avoid confusion i meanm
[11:01] <SNuxoll> mark_: no
[11:01] <HappyHater> _victor_, /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[11:01] <ikonia> BlackCow: please provide the error
[11:01] <Circus-Killer> _victor_, /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[11:01] <mark_> Then I'm always going to get them
[11:02] <_victor_> yes i know that...but it's not showing the actual info in there
[11:02] <HappyHater> what's missing?
[11:02] <moDumass> DistroJockey and legend2440 should hostname look like that too?
[11:02] <_victor_> it's just blanks
[11:02] <BlackCow> well after installing mysql I get, dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: mysql-server-5.0 mysql-server
[11:02] <mark_> Because I think it's trying to connect through the same port I'm connecting to the internet through
[11:02] <SNuxoll> mark_: hold on a sec, uploading a screenshot of my ekiga account settings
[11:02] <_victor_> for starters where's my monitor config in there
[11:02] <Circus-Killer> you using root to view it?
[11:02] <legend2440> moDumass: well whatever it says in /etc/hostname  should be in /etc/hosts
[11:02] <mark_> Okay
[11:02] <_victor_> no
[11:02] <DistroJockey> moDumass, Mine is default (unchanged)
[11:03] <moDumass> legend2440 ok, but hostname has nothing in it except evilsherpa-desktop
[11:03] <janerik> Can anyone help me with the graphics problem??? Think it's a Xorg issue
[11:03] <Circus-Killer> _victor_, use root to view the file, see if that makes a difference
[11:03] <HappyHater> X blows at detecting hardware... run gksudo displayconfig-gtk to setup your monitor
[11:03] <legend2440> moDumass: don't change the /etc/hostname   file
[11:03] <_victor_> sudo cant do it or something
[11:03] <morbyt1> th0r: you earlier mentioned, that compiz eats a lot of cpu on an idle desktop. but what about an active desktop? i compared it and guess what: xorg + onscreen apps jump up high while shagging a window around the screen while when using compiz, the only recongisable change was compiz now taking 6%...
[11:03] <moDumass> legend2440 how do i get the hostname file to have anything other than evilsherpa-desktop though?
[11:03] <Spanishguy30> hi, im looking for a gui for hellanzb. Any sugestions?
[11:03] <mark_> I'm waiting for imageshack
[11:04] <ikonia> BlackCow: can you show us the exact errpr please, use a pastebin if you have to
[11:04] <BlackCow> that was the exact error
[11:04] <ikonia> BlackCow: your on ubuntu 8.04 ?
[11:04] <SNuxoll> mark_: http://i35.tinypic.com/ri5jwg.png
[11:04] <legend2440> moDumass: why would you want to change your hostname?
[11:04] <th0r> morbyt1, well, to be honest, I never dragged a window around long enough to notice <smile>
[11:04] <BlackCow> i think so.. I dont remember
[11:05] <ikonia> BlackCow: just out of interest does everything work when you do a "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install mysql-server"
[11:05] <moDumass> legend2440 you said the content from hostname has to match the content from hosts, but hosts has 9 lines in it, and hostname only has evilsherpa-desktop
[11:05] <peppo> does anyone here have a working set up of hugin? that stitches and blends successfully? 8.04?
[11:05] <DistroJockey> moDumass, and my /etc/hostname file contains (for comparison):   ubuntu
[11:05] <BlackCow> ikonia: ill try that
[11:06] <spi343> hi, i need to set mode 0660 and group uml-net to /dev/net/tun. chmod and chown on the file works but after reboot it's lost. so i added this at the end of /etc/udev/40-permissions.rules   KERNEL=="tun", GROUP="uml-net", MODE="0660" but it's not being set after reboot
[11:06] <moDumass> then your hosts and hostname files dont contain the same info
[11:06] <unop> moDumass, the hostname file does not have to have all the entries that hosts has .. just the actual hostname
[11:06] <mark_> There's no protocol option on yours SNux
[11:06] <morbyt1> th0r: honestly moving windows isnt much interest but uhm, adding sth like compiz to the mozilla engine would be awsome. mozilla is so plain slow sometimes
[11:06] <moDumass> ah, ok
[11:06] <moDumass> cool
[11:06] <SNuxoll> mark_: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[11:06] <mark_> HArdy
[11:06] <BlackCow> nope, it fails to start the mysql server and then gives me that error
[11:06] <vnrvjiet> is there anyone who can help me about kernal?
[11:07] <SNuxoll> mark_: ahh, because that only shows on the new account dialog
[11:07] <ikonia> BlackCow: so is mysql server actually installed ?
[11:07] <SNuxoll> mark_: are you choosing SIP as the protocol?
[11:07] <BlackCow> no I cant get it to install to the point that I can run it
[11:07] <guido> Hi guys, I've connected an embedded device through a lan cable to my PC, how can I figure out if my PC "sees" it and what's its IP ? I'm connected to the internet via wlan0, and to the device via eth0, here's my current network configuration: http://www.pastie.org/244717
[11:07] <mark_> Yes
[11:07] <BlackCow> i tried apt-get remove --purge on it and install again, same thing
[11:07] <ikonia> BlackCow: thats not what I asked
[11:07] <ikonia> BlackCow: I asked if it was installed, not if you could run it
[11:07] <BlackCow> well.. i guess its installed
[11:08] <moDumass> DistroJockey and legend2440 i think i misunderstood what you were saying, this is what both contain http://www.pastebin.org/59916
[11:08] <BlackCow> it just fails to run
[11:08] <ikonia> BlackCow: ok - so what happens if you do "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql-server start
[11:08] <legend2440> moDumass: here is how your /etc/hosts file should look. but i would backup old one before trying this   http://www.pastebin.org/59915
[11:08] <mark_> http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200807311102531280x1024iz9.png
[11:08] <ikonia> BlackCow: sorry /etc/init.d/mysql stat
[11:08] <ikonia> start
[11:09] <legend2440> moDumass: don't edit /etc/hostname file at all
[11:09] <morbyt1> sb willing to help with custom kernel configuration?
[11:09] <BlackCow> it trys to start, hangs for a while, then says "...fail!"
[11:09] <SNuxoll> mark_: those errors may be casued because you don't have ports forwarded
[11:09] <moDumass> legend2440 random, that is waht it looks like, bar possibly some spaces
[11:09] <ikonia> BlackCow: ok , now look at the syslog and the mysql log to find out the issue
[11:10] <mark_> I don't know the first thing about forwarding ports, snux
[11:10] <ikonia> BlackCow: for future reference the problem is not that mysql is not installed - it's installed, but it cant start
[11:10] <SNuxoll> mark_: also, I've found that restarting ekiga fixes the registration errors
[11:10] <SNuxoll> mark_: you've never forwarded ports before? then http://portforward.net should help you
[11:11] <SNuxoll> mark_: http://portforward.com actually
[11:11] <BlackCow> well it gives me an error right off the bat after it installs, telling me the install process had some errors
[11:11] <BlackCow> and where do I find the syslog?
[11:11] <mark_> Is this horribly complex with a four page introduction?
[11:11] <legend2440> moDumass: can you paste your   /etc/hosts file?  this is what you pasted before   http://www.pastebin.org/59870
[11:11] <zeech> where am i?
[11:11] <ikonia> BlackCow: /var/log/messages
[11:11] <SNuxoll> mark_: no, forwarding ports is extremely easy
[11:11] <ikonia> zeech: your in an ubuntu support irc channel, type /topic to see more info
[11:12] <moDumass> ok, sorry
[11:12] <moDumass> http://www.pastebin.org/59916
[11:12] <mark_> Where do I start, snux. Tell me or I'll get it horribly wrong
[11:12] <zeech> thanks
[11:12] <guido> Could I use a "ping" to scan my local network for connected devices ? In which way ? Thanks.
[11:12] <BlackCow> i dont know what to make of the log file, it just says --MARK-- a bunch of times
[11:12] <SNuxoll> mark_: http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm pick your router from here
[11:13] <SNuxoll> mark_: it'll tell you how to get to the page that controls forwarding on your router
[11:13] <ikonia> BlackCow: ok, so look at the mysql log file
[11:13] <mark_> I have an NTL supplied modem. Is that a router?
[11:13] <Ademan> yay 4 ati! i switched to fglrx and now i'm getting a "signal out of range" error from my monitor, it seems xorg is incorrectly detecting my monitor's refresh rate, any way to rectify this?
[11:13] <moDumass> legend2440 http://www.pastebin.org/59916 thats both of them right there
[11:13] <moDumass> thanks for all the help btw
[11:13] <legend2440> moDumass: ok sorry misunderstood. that is not your problem.   have you checked for any hidden files in your /home/yourusername  folder like   .anonproxy?
[11:14] <spi343> please help with udev permissions
[11:14] <moDumass> im lookin into it now
[11:14] <SNuxoll> mark_: type ifconfig into a terminal, what is the inet addr: of your network interface?
[11:14] <DistroJockey> guido, nmap  may be what you are looking for
[11:14] <BlackCow> it just has some premissions, showing a mysql user and a root user saying "total used in directory 8 available" at the top
[11:15] <mark_>  inet addr:81.107.88.124 snux
[11:15] <JW> Hello
[11:15] <zeech> 有说中文的吗？
[11:15] <ikonia> !jo | zeech
[11:15] <bazhang> !cn
[11:15] <SNuxoll> mark_: then you don't have a router
[11:15] <moDumass> legend2440 nope not that i can find
[11:15] <mark_> I thought not
[11:15] <bazhang> zeech, /join #ubuntu-cn
[11:15] <ikonia> !jp | zeech
[11:15] <mark_> Do I have to buy a router?
[11:15] <JW> I'm wanting to install Ubuntu over my current Windows XP OS, which version should i go for?
[11:15] <SNuxoll> mark_: no
[11:15] <legend2440> moDumass: when i uninstalled tor and privoxy i had similar problem but that was a while ago and can't remember how i got everything back to normal
[11:15] <mark_> Then what do I do?
[11:15] <SNuxoll> mark_: you shouldn't be having these issues if you don't have a router....
[11:15] <ikonia> JW: desktop version 8.04
[11:15] <SNuxoll> mark_: I'm at a loss
[11:15] <JW> ikonia, thank you
[11:15] <Balian> #ubuntu-pl
[11:15] <JW> Goodbye
[11:16] <DistroJockey> JW, 8.04.1
[11:16] <zeech> tank you
[11:16] <legend2440> moDumass:  what exactly is not working?   firefox?
[11:16] <JW> 8.04.1?
[11:16] <bazhang> np
[11:16] <moDumass> legend2440 yeh i had anonproxy and privoxy installed
[11:16] <DistroJockey> JW, yep
[11:16] <moDumass> legend2440 no firefox works like a dream, i just cant go to localhost
[11:16] <moDumass> or localhost/wordpress/
[11:16] <mark_> Maybe I should check to see if any router type software has been installed on my system, snux
[11:16] <JW> DistroJockey, I was unaware that 8.04.1 was available?
[11:16] <spi343> in what file exactly i set permissions and ownership for devices when using udev? i tried in 40-permissions.rules and 40-basic-permissions.rules but with no effect
[11:16] <moDumass> they jsut nver connect
[11:16] <DistroJockey> JW, it is
[11:17] <JW> Where can I find it? I don't see it on the Ubuntu website
[11:17] <SNuxoll> mark_: firewall maybe...
[11:17] <unop> spi343, why do you want to change permissions for device?
[11:17] <JW> I need Ubuntu to be as stable as possible
[11:17] <mark_> I'm sure I didn't install a firewall, snux
[11:17] <BlackCow> well thanks for trying to help me, im just going to try reinstalling everything from scratch, like apache and php
[11:17] <SNuxoll> mark_: about the only thing I could see causing these issues, or you just have a broken install
[11:17] <bazhang> JW, latest is .1
[11:17] <DistroJockey> JW, you will probably get that one
[11:17] <legend2440> moDumass: any problems with sudo or opening  Admin programs like   update manager?
[11:17] <JW> Thank you for your help, goodbye :)
[11:17] <mark_> I installed the minimal version and built on it
[11:18] <spi343> unop, i need mode 0660 and group uml-net for /dev/net/tun, chown and chmod on it works but when restart it's lost, so i need to make an udev rule
[11:18] <spi343> unop, for virtualbox
[11:18] <SNuxoll> mark_: might be the issue....
[11:18] <moDumass> legend2440 i had iussues with update manager but fixed them
[11:18] <moDumass> through this channe;
[11:18] <Razumikin> olá a todos, alguém fala português?
[11:18] <moDumass> sudo sometimes yes
[11:18] <moDumass> but only with some apps
[11:18] <fde> !br
[11:18] <mark_> Can you recommend a VoIP service that's free and not Ekiga then?
[11:18] <moDumass> like gedit sometimes wont open now
[11:19] <unop> spi343, hmm, there has to be a better way around this. what group currently (or by default) owns that device?
[11:19] <spi343> unop, root
[11:19] <mark_> I have something called ufw installed,snux. But if I remove it I also remove ubuntu-standard
[11:19] <ogzy> msg nickserv identify ozyyar12
[11:19] <unop> spi343, and the permissions?
[11:20] <kooothor_> lol ogzy
[11:20] <moDumass> legend2440 so only with gedit sometimes
[11:20] <fde> mark_: Don't remove it, it is Ubuntu FireWall
[11:20] <k88> im trying to install ubuntu alternate and stucks on ISOLINUX after displaying a line "initializing glx code", any ideas ?
[11:20] <moDumass> otherwise no probs
[11:20] <spi343> unop, crw------- 1 root root 10, 200 2008-04-22 19:49 /dev/net/tun
[11:20] <SNuxoll> mark_: hrm
[11:20] <ogzy> kooothor_, whats up
[11:20] <moDumass> except this localhost/wordpress issue
[11:20] <unop> spi343, ok, have a read here. http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html#ownership
[11:20] <SNuxoll> mark_: did you do anything with ufw?
[11:20] <todd> how do i open the teminal?
[11:20] <bazhang> ogzy, try again in server window; we all saw that
[11:20] <mark_> Not that I'm aware of, snux
[11:20] <k88> im trying to install ubuntu alternate and stucks on ISOLINUX after displaying a line "initializing gfx code", any ideas ?
[11:20] <spi343> unop, ok
[11:20] <SNuxoll> mark_: hmm
[11:21] <kooothor_> ogzy, everone saw your password mate
[11:21] <ogzy> bazhang, i forgot the / thats it
[11:21] <mark_> Perhaps it did something without me knowing
[11:21] <DistroJockey> todd_, Applications - Accessories - Terminal
[11:21] <SNuxoll> mark_: doubtful
[11:21] <bazhang> yup
[11:21] <ogzy> kooothor_, ok i am aware of it
[11:21] <fde> SNuxoll: It's a dep of ubuntu-standard, which is just a meta-package... but he shouldn't remove it, it is what Ubuntu uses to configure firewall rules in scripts rather than iptables directly.
[11:21] <legend2440> moDumass: open system>pref>network proxy   direct connect checked?
[11:22] <DistroJockey> Sorry todd_ ,todd, Applications - Accessories - Terminal
[11:22] <stnsls-> hello
[11:22] <SNuxoll> fde: I'm quite aware of what ufw is, and that it's part of standard
[11:22] <spi343> unop, i am doing just that, i belive in my case it would be: KERNEL=="tun", GROUP="uml-net", MODE="0660"
[11:22] <bazhang> k88, did you md5 the iso? also try re-burning at lower speed
[11:22] <stnsls-> Please can someone tell me the path of Python.h in Ubuntu ?
[11:22] <SNuxoll> fde: I was asking if he had done anything with it, since it doesn't do anything by default
[11:22] <stnsls-> somewhere in /usr/include
[11:22] <spi343> unop, thing is it doesn't get applied i don't know where to set it
[11:22] <moDumass> legend2440 direct internet connection is enabled
[11:22] <spi343> unop, from the README file in rules.d it says in 40-*
[11:23] <spi343> unop, like in 40-permissions.rule or in 40-basic-permissions-rules
[11:23] <fde> stnsls-: sudo aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update && apt-file search python.h
[11:23] <moDumass> legend2440 and under advanced there is "localhost" "127.0.0.0/8" and "*.local"
[11:23] <unop> spi343, i am not sure KERNEL="tun" will fully match it -- look further down into the document, there are a couple of utilities (udevinfo particularly) that list the exact properties
[11:23] <spi343> unop, but sudo invoke-rc.d udev restart don't show changes to /dev/net/tun
[11:23] <legend2440> moDumass: anything uner Advanced Tab in that list box?
[11:24] <stnsls-> fde: Im not under Ubuntu :) I am developer and I want to check some include path
[11:24] <legend2440> under
[11:24] <fde> stnsls-: look on packages.ubuntu.com
[11:24] <SNuxoll> stnsls-: you shouldn't be statically inserting include paths anyways :P
[11:24] <SNuxoll> stnsls-: use pkg-config to get them
[11:24] <spi343> unop, the device is being named in 20-names.rules with KERNEL=="tun", NAME="net/%k"
[11:24] <stnsls-> I am not under ubuntu
[11:25] <p> hiii and i have one question whats the best Mac iso for a AMD CPU
[11:25] <p> kalyway or leo4all
[11:25] <SNuxoll> p: this is a ubuntu support channel
[11:25] <spi343> unop, seems right
[11:25] <SNuxoll> p: we do not support or condone osx86
[11:25] <legend2440> moDumass: thats exactly what i have in that list box
[11:25] <p> sorry^^
[11:25] <stnsls-> ok guys, thanks ..............
[11:25] <SNuxoll> p: if you want OS X, please buy a mac
[11:26] <fde> p: PPC is no longer supported
[11:26] <p> to expensive for a studednt
[11:26] <fde> SNuxoll: he didn't say OS X... he said a Mac.
[11:26] <ogzy> ok i am back with a new password
[11:26] <lok^> irc.tin.it
[11:26] <SNuxoll> fde: he was talking about OS X ISO's
[11:26] <p> ubuntu is free and better i know but i would like to try mac
[11:26] <SNuxoll> fde: please pay more attention
[11:26] <mark_> I like my system the way it is. I don't want to have to install a full Gnome/KDE/xfce4 desktop environment just to get some stupid VoIP client to work :(
[11:26] <bazhang> p not here
[11:26] <ogzy> i am looking for a gui for lsmod that will show me modules installed with their version numbers with a user friendly way
[11:26] <p> who nows good Ubuntu internetsites
[11:27] <p> i need some news or something
[11:27] <kooothor_> p: ubuntu.com ?
[11:27] <kooothor_> :p
[11:27] <p> no hmm i mean magazines
[11:27] <fde> ogzy: maybe gnome-device-manager ?
[11:27] <bazhang> p chat in #ubuntu-offtopic not here
[11:27] <legend2440> moDumass: open system>admin>network>general tab  does it say   evilsherpa-desktop?
[11:28] <p> okay bazhang
[11:28] <mark_> How do I disable the ubuntu firewall?
[11:28] <gordonjcp> mark_: what firewall?
[11:28] <SNuxoll> mark_: it shouldn't be enabled by default anyways
[11:28] <mark_> ufw
[11:29] <SNuxoll> mark_: if you didn't do anything with it then it should be fine....
[11:29] <DistroJockey> mark_, see   man ufw
[11:29] <unop> spi343, what's the exact rule you have set there?
[11:29] <mark_> Does Ekiga work with non Gnome DEs?
[11:30] <Starnestommy> mark_: it should
[11:30] <^hellfire^> cze
[11:30] <fde> mark_: sure
[11:30] <mark_> Well, it doesn't for me
[11:30] <fde> mark_: Ekiga isn't a Gnome app, it is simply a GTK app.
[11:30] <theCarpenter> if i programatically make an apt-get call through a bash script, will i have to deal with the y/n dialogue, or accoutn for it somehow?
[11:31] <Dillizar> where can i get more info on the ubuntu MID edition?
[11:31] <spi343> unop, grep -r tun /etc/udev/* shows this: /etc/udev/rules.d/20-names.rules:KERNEL=="tun", NAME="net/%k"   and /etc/udev/rules.d/40-basic-permissions.rules:KERNEL=="tun", GROUP="uml-net", MODE="0660"
[11:31] <centrex> theCarpenter, not if you add -y
[11:31] <mark_> How do I find out what's hogging the port Ekiga wants to use?
[11:31] <centrex> mark_, use netstat
[11:31] <Starnestommy> mark_: use sudo netstat -alp | grep port-number
[11:32] <DistroJockey> Dillizar, goggle gave me:  http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile
[11:32] <Dillizar> lol yes mark_ ekiga sucks
[11:32] <DistroJockey> google^ even
[11:32] <unop> spi343, i would change the latter to..  KERNEL=="tun", NAME="net/%k", GROUP="uml-net", MODE="0660"
[11:32] <mark_> No result, centrex
[11:32] <ogzy> fde, ok thats what i ned but it doesnt show the driver versions
[11:32] <unop> spi343, that rule you have there does not match a device name
[11:32] <ogzy> fde, anyway to see them?
[11:33] <centrex> mark_, well you have to pass it options and grep for things, see what Starnestommy said
[11:33] <theCarpenter> centre: So, say, apt-get install -y mypackage
[11:33] <mark_> Oh sorry.
[11:33] <mark_> No result starne
[11:33] <centrex> theCarpenter, according to the apt-get man page, yeah
[11:33] <pschulz01> Greetings all... I'm looking into an issue that we are having at work, upgrading the firmware on DELL XPS 1330 machines.
[11:33] <theCarpenter> centrex: perfect, thanks :)
[11:34] <pschulz01> I've installed the 'libsmbios-bin', but it doesn't seem to install the new Firmware properly.
[11:34] <RainyLithuanian> what's that "i386 chroot" ?
[11:35] <spi343> unop, but none of the other devices are named here , they have only KERNEL and PERMISSION! also says in comment that the names of the devices must no be set here but in 20-names.rules
[11:35] <fde> ogzy: Not really... the kernel doesn't even know it seems (cat /proc/modules) ... it's just the version of the module in that kernel.
[11:35] <spi343> unop, it don't make sense ..
[11:35] <mark_> I need to know what ports Ekiga is trying to connect to
[11:35] <fde> ogzy: What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[11:35] <mien07> guys
[11:35] <mien07> pls help
[11:35] <pschulz01> The version in the repository (hardy) is 0.13.10, while that available to gentoo is 2.0.2.
[11:35] <fde> !help | mien07
[11:35] <mien07> how can i set up my wireless connection
[11:35] <spi343> unop, have a look in your 40-* and see if you have names there
[11:35] <Kousotu> mien: what card?
[11:35] <ogzy> fde, just trying get as much info as possible about drivers loaded
[11:35] <spi343> unop, if you like
[11:35] <Dillizar> where can i get more info on the ubuntu MID edition?
[11:36] <pschulz01> The upgrade in gentoo works but not in Ubuntu Hardy.
[11:36] <Dillizar> !mid
[11:36] <mien07> how can i setup or install the driver of my wireless connection
[11:36] <fde> ogzy: Any particular reason? This isn't Windows... drivers don't digress in the linux world...
[11:36] <mien07> i am using wireless atheros
[11:36] <Dillizar> !ubuntu mid
[11:36] <Kousotu> can anyone help me with a flash/java instillation problem?
[11:36] <DistroJockey> Dillizar, I told you already:  http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile
[11:36] <fde> Kousotu: what is the problem?
[11:36] <sajuuk> hey guys, my memory stick isnt working in KDE but works in GNOME, what seems to be the problem?
[11:37] <fde> sajuuk: ask #kubuntu
[11:37] <Kousotu> fde: keeps giving me some error about being unable to configure
[11:37] <Kousotu> mien: what model?
[11:37] <Dillizar> sowwy DistroJockey i dont have my konversation i am on a irc
[11:37] <mien07> atheros wireless
[11:37] <fde> Kousotu: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin flashplugin-nonfree
[11:37] <mark_> How do I find out which port Ekiga wants to use starne?
[11:37] <Kousotu> fde: did those
[11:37] <ogzy> fde, i know, just questining whether some compiled modules may have versions
[11:38] <pputman> mark_, ekiga, is that a sip phone?
[11:38] <fde> Kousotu: did you restart Firefox? What does about:plugins have to say?
[11:38] <mark_> Yes
[11:38] <pputman> mark_, fyi sip uses multiple ports, and at least one of them is randomly picked from a large range.
[11:38] <bullgard4> Does there exist in Linux a 'recfile' command? "recovers files from a hard disk drive that has defective sectors." I could not find it in Hardy.
[11:38] <Kousotu> 2pcs, gimme a sec, I'll check
[11:38] <mark_> Then there's nothing I can do
[11:38] <fde> ogzy: I don't understand why you'd want to do that... it's pretty much irrelevant.
[11:38] <mark_> It's uselss
[11:38] <mark_> Useless
[11:39] <pputman> mark_, not saying that, I'm just saying that there might be more than one port to consider.
[11:39] <sir_> H-A-L-P.  Where do I add resolutions greater than 800x600 for the standard driver?  (nVidia driver was a disaster -- not using)
[11:39] <Kousotu> fde: where can I find about:plugins?
[11:39] <fde> mark_: man iptables ... you want to open the port Ekiga uses... to find that out... check Ekiga preferences. I really don't want to guide you through the steps to accomplish this though, tired.
[11:40] <fde> Kousotu: type it into the Firefox address box
[11:40] <DistroJockey> bullgard4, photorec (part of testdisk) is worth a look
[11:40] <Dillizar> DistroJockey dude i do know how that! but i want more info isnt there a channel or smt
[11:40] <fde> mark_: On Ubuntu, ALL ports are closed by default, contrary to others saying no firewall is used.
[11:40] <Kousotu> fde: and what am I looking for?
[11:40] <fde> Kousotu: Uhh, those plugins?
[11:40] <mark_> Is that why the stupid thing won't work, fde?
[11:41] <Kousotu> fde: todem/wmp10/divx/quicktime
[11:41] <ogzy> fde, for example i have already compiled and installed my wireless driver, and someone came and wanted to see whether the driver is uptodate or not, he checked the latest tar.gz version and will need to check the current installed one right?
[11:41] <fde> mark_: Almost certainly... also, are you using a router? You need to enable port forwarding (aka, you need to tell the router that incoming on that port goes to your computer)
[11:41] <Starnestommy> mark_: if a program needs to open ports, then it'll open those ports on its own unless there's a firewall rule keeping them from doing tjay
[11:41] <Starnestommy> *that
[11:41] <fde> Kousotu: Then you didn't install them, or you didn't restart Firefox...
[11:41] <mark_> I'm not using a router I'm just a normal computer user
[11:41] <mark_> Not an admin
[11:41] <sir_>  /msg ubottu etiquette
[11:42] <Kousotu> fde:
[11:42] <fde> ogzy: I don't use out of tree drivers...
[11:42] <Kousotu> fde: I'll check the error in a min, updating that onme
[11:42] <unop> spi343, well, i have the same configuration as you, and same permissions - which does not make sense. anyway, it does not hurt to be a little more explicit and define a name like i did up there.  same done here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=449493
[11:42] <DistroJockey> Dillizar, #ubuntu-mobile  maybe
[11:42] <sir_>  /msg ubuntu etiquette
[11:42] <th0r> fde, you said Ubuntu blocks all ports by default. My xubuntu install has no rules in iptables, which I believe means everything is open
[11:42] <mark_> I just think Ekiga is broken in Hardy
[11:42] <mark_> That's the only possible explanation
[11:42] <ogzy> fde, but i stil want to see my compiled drivers version
[11:42] <Kousotu> mein
[11:42] <fde> ogzy: Out of tree drivers are an entirely different cattle of fish, it's up to whoever maintains those drivers to do versioning etc... try apt-cache show <module-for-driver> | grep Version
[11:43] <Kousotu> you still floating around?
[11:43] <Kousotu> mark: ekiga is fine, I use it often
[11:43] <erUSUL> th0r: ubuntu by default has no open ports becouse nothing is listening on them (no service is enabled by default)
[11:43] <ogzy> fde apt-cache-show is for deb packages right not the ones compiled via make and then insmod
[11:43] <mark_> I bet you don't use it in Hardy running a non standard DE
[11:43] <th0r> erUSUL, ok...that I can agree with <smile>
[11:44] <RainyLithuanian> ok, I'm trying to install ip1500 canon printer drivers on 64-bit
[11:44] <beawesomeinstead> hey folks! does anyone know how to send glob
[11:44] <fde> ogzy: That is entirely unsupported.
[11:44] <beawesomeinstead> send global message from shell?
[11:44] <mark_> Anyway. It's broken
[11:44] <Kousotu> mark_: i un it on hardy, donno what that other stuff is lol
[11:44] <unop> spi343, if all else fails, you can set the permissions on the tap device from within the vbox init script or /etc/rc.local .. http://www.sharedmemory.net/mywiki/VirtualBox
[11:44] <RainyLithuanian> I was told to use alien on deb and to link lib's to some kind of directory
[11:45] <RainyLithuanian> how can I link lib's somewhere?
[11:45] <bullgard4> DistroJockey: Thank you for your information.
[11:45] <fde> th0r: idk where the rule is, but for instance look up CUPS issues with Ubuntu, many people started many flames because they crippled CUPS by not allowing any incoming connections.
[11:45] <Kousotu> mien07: you still here?
[11:45] <DistroJockey> bullgard4, you're welcome. Good luck
[11:45] <th0r> beawesomeinstead, wall
[11:45] <ogzy> fde, let me be more spesific because my question is not related with apt database, r8180 is the module i have already installed, any way to see its version?
[11:46] <mark_> I need a VoIP client that isn't broken that allows reigstration
[11:46] <RainyLithuanian> "The solution is so simple: you've got to link libraries in /usr/lib32, not usr/lib!" (speaking hopefully about alien) how to use that simple solution?
[11:46] <mark_> So not Wengophone
[11:46] <spi343> unop, thanks
[11:46] <Kousotu> mark_:skype?
[11:46] <DeadPanda> mark_: it's not FOSS, but perhaps you want Skype?
[11:46] <sir_> Hello.  I saw your nick in manyplaces where there was expert advice.  Got a sec to help?
[11:47] <balle_> i'm having trouble installing a theme, ubuntu says the theme is installed and all, but i can't select it anywhere..
[11:47] <pputman> mark_, I like twinkle.
[11:47] <mark_> I can only use skuype to talk to skype users
[11:47] <balle_> i'm having trouble installing a theme, ubuntu says the theme is installed and all, but i can't select it anywhere, does anybody know what might be the problem?
[11:47] <Kousotu> sir_: we are always here to help, just ask your question
[11:47] <pputman> yeah you don't want skype
[11:47] <pputman> twinkle is nice
[11:47] <fde> th0r: ahh... look in /etc/ufw ... here it is dropping many things
[11:47] <mark_> Twinkle drags in too many KDE libs
[11:47] <Kousotu> balle_: emerald or compiz?
[11:48] <mark_> Kphone freezes
[11:48] <balle_> Kousotu: ehm... about that, i don't really know? gnome?
[11:48] <mark_> Linphone is just confusing
[11:48] <Kousotu> balle_: try system> preferences > appearence
[11:48] <pputman> mark_, twinkle is the best one I've messed with, but tbh, the amount of soft phones for linux that work well is kind of disappointing.
[11:48] <Kousotu> it should be there
[11:48] <geirha> balle_: ok, so it's a gnome-theme, and you installed it by dragging it into System -> Preferences -> Appereance ?
[11:48] <paul_5666> hi, is there anyway to limit bandwidth until a certin time period?
[11:49] <pputman> kiax is nice if you can use iax instead of sip
[11:49] <fde> th0r: nm, it has ENABLED=no in before.rules by default... so idk where it's configuring everything as drop  :/
[11:49] <Hicks1gb> algun español?
[11:49] <th0r> fde, sudo ufw status indicates the firewall is not enabled
[11:49] <fde> !es
[11:49] <Starnestommy> !es | Hicks1gb
[11:49] <balle_> Kosoutu and geirha: yes i am running the gnome window manager and i have tried dragging it in, installing it from appereance and installing it from the terminal
[11:49] <balle_> nothing works
[11:49] <Kousotu> ppl and beating me with bots lol
[11:49] <H-A-L-P> <---- needs some help on screen resolution parms
[11:49] <th0r> fde, you can, if I remember correctly, enable the firewall at initial install. Maybe that is where we are seeing it differently
[11:50] <Kousotu> balle: where did you get the theme?
[11:50] <geirha> balle_: do you have an url to the theme?
[11:50] <fde> th0r: you can't unless you do an expert install
[11:50] <balle_> geirha: http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/atermetacity/
[11:50] <mark_> Twinkle uses over 29 megs
[11:50] <fde> th0r: even then, I don't think it's there in the alternate install
[11:50] <th0r> fde, yeah...I always review all the items to make sure things like that (firewall ON) don't happen without my knowledge
[11:51] <fde> mark_: about as much as firefox
[11:51] <moulded> Can you set specific SetEnvIfNoCase (mod_deflate) settings within an apache include?
[11:51] <Kousotu> fde: the laptop is using gutsy, if that makes a difference
[11:51] <mark_> YEah. Which is why I use Seamonkey
[11:51] <balle_> geirha: can i use compiz for ubuntu? trying now...
[11:51] <fde> th0r: there is no option, anywhere, ubuntu doesn't even have a GUI firewall tool currently. (unless you count firestarter and friends...)
[11:52] <balle_> geirha: it appears it is already installed, but do you know what it's called in the start session thing on the log on screen?
[11:52] <morbyt1> ayeee help. i my consoles are gone (ctrl-alt-f1 to f7). i mean: i can switch there, but theres no login-window. help!
[11:52] <RainyLithuanian> how to remove a directory via shell?
[11:52] <geirha> balle_: system -> preferences -> appearance, visual effects tab. If your system can run compiz, it's probably enabled allready
[11:52] <fde> th0r: either way, try to connect to your Ubuntu box from another... you can't
[11:52] <Kousotu> morbyt1: 1-6  are all terminals
[11:52] <fde> RainyLithuanian: rm
[11:53] <RainyLithuanian> rm doesn't work:)
[11:53] <th0r> fde, the first thing I always do is install ssh, so I know I can
[11:53] <fde> RainyLithuanian: uhh... rm -r
[11:53] <morbyt1> Kousotu: yes. i know. i want them. but i cant login there... (no login prompt)
[11:53] <fde> th0r: try any game etc
[11:53] <DistroJockey> moulded, I think you would be better off asking in  #apache
[11:53] <pepe_ur> hi. i installed JeOS on a fresh VM. However when i connect ssh via putty all special characters the server sends are not displayed correctly. e.g. the german character 'ä' becomes 'Ã¤'. what can I do?
[11:54] <paul_5666> hi is there a way to set my bandwidth at a set rate but return it to normal at a scheduled time?
[11:54] <Kousotu> RainyLithuanian: rm -rf <dir>  (this can be dangerious if you're not careful)
[11:54] <RainyLithuanian> thanks:)
[11:54] <geirha> balle_: system -> preferences -> appearance, visual effects tab. If your system can run compiz, it's probably enabled allready
[11:54] <moDumass> sorry got disconnected
[11:54] <fde> pepe_ur: use a better ssh client
[11:54] <mark_> Can anyone connect to freeworld dialup?
[11:54] <Exuro> hello
[11:54] <Kousotu> !hi
[11:54] <Exuro> I've been working for hours trying to get my wireless card to work
[11:55] <fde> Exuro: what card?
[11:55] <moDumass> hey all, i uninstalled anonproxy, any idea how to fix my machine
[11:55] <Kousotu> Exuro: whhat card?
[11:55] <Exuro> and somehow I managed to completely kill the wlan0 device...
[11:55] <balle_> Geirha: aha! it's the visual part my labtop can't do, because no drivers fo rmy gfx card yet, not any that works anyway...
[11:55] <Exuro> when I run ifconfig, it's not there anymore
[11:55] <fde> Exuro: what card?
[11:55] <Kousotu> Exuro: what network card are you usingf?
[11:55] <pepe_ur> fde: like? ssh tectia doesn't work either
[11:56] <legend2440> moDumass: in terminal type   set | grep -i proxy      does it return anything?
[11:56]  * fde wonders what tectia is
[11:56] <balle_> geirha: well, could you help me on the ATER theme?
[11:56] <Exuro> BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller
[11:56] <Kousotu> Exuro: who makes it?
[11:56] <fde> Exuro: lsmod | grep b43 return anything?
[11:57] <pepe_ur> fde: its the proprietary client ssh.com provides for a lot of money
[11:57] <geirha> balle_: I just tried it myself, and I got the same result as you ... didn't show up. Looking into it
[11:57] <Kousotu> fde: do you have a link to the 64bit hardy cd iso?
[11:57] <Exuro> nope, ﻿lsmod | grep b43 returns blank
[11:57] <SNuxoll> I use PuTTY as a SSH client on Windows....
[11:57] <SNuxoll> why spend a bunch of money on one?
[11:58] <Kousotu> Exuro: wh makes the card? I'm unfamiliar with it
[11:58] <Kousotu> who*
[11:58] <fde> SNuxoll: I wouldn't touch Windows, and if I had to, it'd have Cygwin on it.
[11:58] <Exuro> I actually got it working so that I could *see* our wireless network earlier, but then I couldn't connect so I tried some other stuff, and then wlan0 disappeared!
[11:58] <balle_> geirha: thx man i just noticed that i can select window borders just fine from the theme, but nothing else
[11:58] <fde> SNuxoll: or at least Unix Tools for Windows.
[11:58] <code_> if i have set phising protection etc... on sites through opendns can I get through to those sites on 1 particular computer?
[11:58] <Exuro> Broadcom
[11:58] <Dusk_> does open sourced nv drivers have powermizer ability??
[11:58] <pepe_ur> SNuxoll: well, putty displays the utf8 characters as two ascii ones, does not look nice
[11:58] <fde> Exuro: lsmod | grep bcm43xx?
[11:59] <code_>  if i have set phising protection etc... on sites through opendns can I get through to those sites on 1 particular computer?
[11:59] <fde> Kousotu: cdimage.ubuntu.com ... look around in releases etc
[11:59] <Kousotu> fde: thanks
[11:59] <AlmightyCthulhu> SNuxoll!!! :)
[11:59] <geirha> balle_: yes, I think that's what you have to do. The theme is only a metacity theme, and that will only change the borders, you need a gtk+/gnome-theme to change the "insides" of windows
[11:59] <SNuxoll> AlmightyCthulhu!!! ???
[11:59] <Kousotu> site is a mess lol
[11:59] <ZStar> almighty gesuntheit
[11:59] <mark_> Gotta go
[11:59] <Exuro> lsmod | grep bcm also returns blank
[11:59] <mark_> Thanks for trying guys
[12:00] <balle_> geirha: i'm trying to install the mplayer reffered to by the developer, ahh thx man! and i just liked the picture
[12:00] <fde> Exuro: there's your first problem... heh... what version of Ubuntu?
[12:00] <geirha> balle_: http://illusions.hu/index.php?task=100&statpage=23 here's a "full" theme
[12:01] <balle_> geirha: ahhh, yes of course... thx man
[12:01] <Exuro> I just downloaded the new image
[12:01] <Exuro> 8.04
[12:01] <geirha> balle_: no sorry, I just read at the bottom that the GTK-theme isn't complete yet
[12:02] <AlmightyCthulhu> SNuxoll=Awesomeness
[12:02] <fde> Exuro: lsb_release -r
[12:02] <AlmightyCthulhu> that's all
[12:03] <balle_> geirha: i'll just check it out anyways, i have to start reading those descriptions
[12:03] <Exuro> yeah, it's 8.04
[12:03] <geirha> balle_: there are alot of nice gtk 2.x themes at gnome-look.org btw
[12:04] <fde> Exuro: cool... aptitude install b43-fwcutter ... if it's there, go to http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware ... follow the second grey box
[12:05] <fde> Exuro: The first one gets you b43-fwcutter, but aptitude installed that already  :)
[12:05] <balle_> geirha: thx, btw what window manager are you using? i've tried out fluxbox but couldnt get the terminal to stick on the dekstop...
[12:05] <Exuro> it's installed
[12:05] <Exuro> if I click System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
 sorry for delayed response, indeed it does, http://www.pastebin.org/59994
[12:05] <Exuro> it lists "Broadcom B4 wireless driver"
[12:06] <Exuro> says it's "Enabled" but "Not In Use"
[12:06] <fde> Exuro: You downloaded and installed broadcom-wl ?
[12:06] <k88> is there any way to execute ubuntu install from command line (without booting from cdrom)
[12:06] <Kousotu> Exuro: have you restarted since installing it?
[12:06] <Exuro> I had the driver working and I could see my networks
[12:06] <Kousotu> k88: use the alternate cd?
[12:06] <Exuro> but then the whole wireless interface disappeared after I did something to it
[12:06] <Kousotu> Exuro: have you restarted since installing it?
[12:07] <Exuro> yes
[12:07] <Oli``> Is there any way to speed up VirtualBox's network speed? I'm trying to access large host files from the guest (over SMB) and it's taking a ridiculous amount of time
[12:07] <k88> alternate cd doesn't boot either
[12:07] <Exuro> I've restarted several times
[12:07] <Kousotu> k88: the cds don't boot in boot order?
[12:07] <Exuro> it doesn't make wlan0 come back
[12:07] <geirha> balle_: using the default window-manager metacity/compiz, with slickness theme
[12:07] <Kousotu> Exuro: one sec
[12:07] <k88> Kousotu, isolinux crashes
[12:07] <fde> Exuro: sudo modprobe b43 ... if it returns anything, paste.ubuntu.com 'dmesg | tail -n20'
[12:07] <k88> Kousotu, bios boot from cdrom works fine
[12:07] <Exuro> maybe I bumped the hardware out?
[12:07] <Kousotu> k88: what are you trying to put it on?
[12:07] <Exuro> I don't know...
[12:07] <balle_> geirha: okay thx
[12:07] <Teisei> Yeah ! I can browse for computers in my network ! I've been waiting for this fix for so long. (I'm using Intrepid Ibex ^^; )
[12:08] <Kousotu> Exuro: most likely a HAL is in the way
[12:08] <fde> Exuro: If it returns nothing, that's good  :)
[12:08] <legend2440> moDumass: in terminal type         unset http_proxy    then   set | grep -i proxy    does it still return that proxy stuff?
[12:08] <k88> Kousotu, i just wondered if there is any executable inside ubuntu install cdrom that i can run
[12:08] <Kousotu> Exuro: check syatem> administration > hardware drivers (or similar)
[12:08] <fde> Kousotu: He JUST said the result of that.
[12:09] <Kousotu> k88: not that I know of, unless you want wubi
[12:09] <Exuro> [27902.432434] b43: disagrees about version of symbol ssb_dma_translation
[12:09] <Exuro> [27902.432438] b43: Unknown symbol ssb_dma_translation
[12:09] <fortsev> will my file system and settings persist if i upgrade my ubuntu release?
[12:09] <k88> wubi installs ubuntu in partition or inside windows ? :/
[12:09] <Kousotu> k88: in windows
[12:09] <fde> Exuro: Have you restarted since the interface went down? Maybe a reboot will stop the kernel from being confused.
[12:10] <Kousotu> fde: no, he said the interface went away, not the same thing, at least how I see it
[12:10] <Exuro> ﻿if I click System->Administration->Hardware Drivers ﻿it lists "Broadcom B4 wireless driver" ﻿says it's "Enabled" but "Not In Use"
[12:11] <Kousotu> my laptop's went away untill I disabled the atheros HAL in gutsy
[12:11] <Exuro> I restarted several times
[12:11] <Exuro> tried installing the drivers again
[12:11] <Kousotu> Exuro: try disabling it and restarting
[12:11] <Exuro> but then I realized that wlan0 had disappeared
[12:11] <Teisei> Hey. Can somebody tell why I get kernel panic and cpu failure when I enable Core multi-processing in BIOS ? I have dual core processor, but I'm running on single core mode. I'd like to use both cores :(
[12:11] <fde> Kousotu: Well, it likely went down because of some kernel conflict - whatever ssb_dma_translation is ... I'd like to see if restarting will make the kernel agree again  :)
[12:11] <moDumass> legend2440 it does, this is what it returns
[12:11] <moDumass> sorry
[12:11] <Exuro> and after trying for a few hours to figure out how to add it again
[12:11] <Exuro> I gave up and came here
[12:12] <fde> Kousotu: Any ideas what might conflict?
[12:12] <Kousotu> fde: yep
[12:12] <Kousotu> fde: same crap happens on mine
[12:12] <Kousotu> only I have an atheros
[12:12] <geirha> k88: You can browse the CD from windows, right? but not boot it, and you can boot other CDs? like the windows CD?
[12:12] <moDumass> legend2440 this is what it returns http://www.pastebin.org/60009
[12:12] <anhhung> how do I add additional files to an ISO image before burning it?
[12:12] <Exuro> I've restarted like 6 times...
[12:12] <Kousotu> Exuro: listen to me
[12:13] <Exuro> you really want me to disable it and try again?
[12:13] <Exuro> okay, I'll be back shortly then...
[12:13] <Kousotu> Exuro: disable it in hardware drivers, reboot and come back here
[12:13] <J-_> will !puregnome work with the deinstall of kde4 if I'm not satisfied?
[12:14] <fde> Kousotu: http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/bcm43xx-dev/2007-December/006588.html and Next message ? Should probably be filed as a bug...
[12:15] <Kousotu> fde: that aimes at me or exuro?
[12:15] <Kousotu> aimed*
[12:15] <fde> Kousotu: (can throw ssb into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist too)
[12:15] <fde> Kousotu: You too I suppose... also while he's gone, you can be guinea pig  :D
[12:15] <Kousotu> fde: now you successfully confused me
[12:15] <fde> Kousotu: Read the link
[12:15] <Kousotu> k
[12:16] <fde> Kousotu: Note the first line... that is what he's done so far...
[12:16] <fde> (the person on the mailing list, not anyone here)
[12:17] <anewbie> any body can help me with my identd
[12:17] <anewbie> how to put it on ?
[12:17] <fde> anewbie: most like pidentd ... although you don't really need one.
[12:17] <anewbie>  :) no duude
[12:17] <Exuro> back
[12:17] <anewbie> i need it
[12:17] <Kousotu> fde: fully aware of that
[12:17] <anewbie> i install oidentd
[12:18] <anewbie> but .... this is some kind of deamon
[12:18] <Kousotu> exuro: did anything show up?
[12:18] <Exuro> still no wlan0
[12:18] <Kousotu> exuro: modprobe -l
[12:18] <Kousotu> !paste
[12:18] <moDumass> legend2440 it still spits stuff out, the second section is what it returns after I type that stuff in http://www.pastebin.org/60009
[12:19] <Jeffrey_wize> can someone help me with grub???
[12:19] <Exuro> aren't I supposed to grep with that?
[12:19] <Kousotu> copy the contents of that into pastebin
[12:19] <fde> Exuro: sudo rmmod ssb && sudo modprobe b43 ... no more errors? what does iwconfig say? any device recognized?
[12:19] <Exuro> no
[12:19] <legend2440> moDumass: it doesn't say   http_proxy=  and then all that stuff?
[12:20] <fde> Exuro: no what?
[12:20] <Exuro> oh, sorry
[12:20] <ph8> does anyone know the default postfix chroot location?
[12:20] <moDumass> yep that should be in there, just some space after the http_proxy
[12:20] <Exuro> no more errors, nothing for iwconf
[12:20] <aljosa> i can't kill process "22423 ? R 1139:01 localedef" with "kill -9". is there anything else except reboot i can do?
[12:21] <moDumass> sorry it says _http_proxy
[12:21] <moDumass> then the next lien
[12:21] <legend2440> ok well problem is we have to figure out which file has all that proxy stuff in it and delete those lines
[12:21] <Otsuka> why I dont install kubuntu-kde4-desktop? "pack broken"
[12:21] <legend2440> moDumass: ok well problem is we have to figure out which file has all that proxy stuff in it and delete those lines
[12:21] <moDumass> ok, is there a way to search for a specific string legend2440?
[12:22] <Otsuka> anyone can help me?
[12:22] <Exuro> ﻿no more errors, nothing for iwconf
[12:22] <fde> Exuro: does 'dmesg | tail -n10' show anything significant?
[12:22] <Exuro> lo        no wireless extensions. eth0      no wireless extensions.
[12:23] <Exuro> I don't think so
[12:23] <Exuro> [   56.228316] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[12:23] <fde> Exuro: throw it up on paste.ubuntu.com please.
[12:23] <Exuro> that's the last line
[12:23] <fde> Exuro: I want more than that....
[12:24] <Exuro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/32563/
[12:25] <Jeffrey_wize> can someone help me??
[12:25] <Jeffrey_wize> i have problems with GRUB
[12:25] <legend2440> moDumass: in terminal    grep -i --ftpproxy --ftpport --justdb --httpproxy --httpport   anything?
[12:26] <Oli``> !ask | Jeffrey_wize
[12:26] <Kousotu> !help | Jeffrey_wize
[12:26] <Kousotu> !ask | Jeffrey_wize
[12:26] <fde> Exuro: Strange, no error... no device in iwconfig ... hmm
[12:26] <Exuro> yeah
[12:26] <Exuro> I know, very weird
[12:26] <Kousotu> bah.. changed the commands on me they did..
[12:26] <Kousotu> ;p;
[12:26] <Kousotu> lol*
[12:26] <Kousotu> !question
[12:26] <Exuro> I've been at it for hours, and I finally gave up and came here
[12:26] <Exuro> originally there was an error there about needing to download the firmware
[12:27] <Exuro> but I did that and installed everything I needed
[12:27] <Exuro> but then I killed it somehow...
[12:27] <fde> Exuro: Do me a favor, just for kicks... echo 'blacklist ssb | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ... restart
[12:27] <fde> Exuro: there's a quote before blacklist and after ssb ... sorry
[12:28] <fde> (forgot after ssb)
[12:28] <Kousotu> fde: flash just needed an update on gutsy, workign fine now
[12:28] <moDumass> legend2440 this is the output http://www.pastebin.org/60033
[12:28] <fde> I hate illogical things... this is illogical... it should have at least complained if it's not going to do what was asked  >:|
[12:28] <b0xxy> when i adduser and chmod that user to a folder, is there a userlist where i can go into and clean up all the inactive ftp usernames
[12:29] <Exuro>  echo 'blacklist ssb' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:29] <Exuro> ?
[12:29] <Kousotu> Exuro: yes
[12:29] <Exuro> that just echos "blacklist ssb" when I do it
[12:29] <fde> Exuro: yes... to ensure it worked 'cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist | tail -n1
[12:29] <fde> Exuro: that's normal
[12:29] <Exuro> ooh
[12:29] <Exuro> restart?
[12:30] <fde> Exuro: yup
[12:30] <unop> verify first
[12:30] <Exuro> okay, brb
[12:30] <fde> unop: I'm guessing the ooh was the verification...
[12:30] <legend2440> moDumass: ok try this in terminal  type  cd /home/yourusername  then     grep -i --ftpproxy --ftpport --justdb --httpproxy --httpport  again
[12:30] <unop> a restart shouldn't be necessary - just unload the module
[12:31] <fde> unop: The module is unloaded... but the device isn't recognized still... and there is no errors in dmesg at all
[12:31] <Kousotu> unop: causes kernel to not panic, it's a safe bet
[12:31] <fde> unop: (ie, nothing still in iwconfig) ...
[12:31] <fde> unop: b43 loaded fine without ssb being around...
[12:32] <unop> Kousotu, if that happens, i'm not sure you are using a very safe module in the first place :)
[12:32] <ai3gtmc> how do i check my freespace using terminal?
[12:32] <fde> unop: this is the suspected actual issue... a kernel bug: http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/bcm43xx-dev/2007-December/006588.html
[12:32] <legend2440> ai3gtmc: df
[12:33] <ai3gtmc> legend2440,thanks
[12:33] <fde> ai3gtmc: df -h (disk free so a human can read it)
[12:33] <ALVAN> if a user deletes a directory shared over samba using the window manager
[12:33] <Exuro> back, now what?
[12:33] <fde> ALVAN: he'd have managed a neat trick
[12:33] <ALVAN> there is a log when this is stored
[12:33] <moDumass> legend2440 this is the output http://www.pastebin.org/60034
[12:34] <unop> fde, well well, i stepped in quite late. so what's the verdict, blacklist ssb and everything should be fine?
[12:34] <fde> Exuro: Now, any difference in output of 'iwconfig' ?
[12:34] <ALVAN> fde, there is   some history log in ubuntu about the directory deletion
[12:34] <Exuro> no
[12:35] <fde> Exuro: lsmod | grep b43 ... returns something?
[12:35] <Exuro> no
[12:35] <Pie-rate> My computer shut down and restarted with no user input whatsoever. Not a power outage, it shut down, randomly, out of the blue. sooo... WHAT UP WITH THAT?
[12:35] <Kousotu> try reabling it in hal
[12:35] <zulizzi> anyone here know any voice changer software for Ubuntu?
[12:35] <Kousotu> if it didn't already
[12:35] <Exuro> is there a way to manually add the wlan0 device again?
[12:36] <Kousotu> Exuro: see if it's enabled in administration
[12:36] <fde> Exuro: weird, it should have loaded automatically... sudo modprobe b43 again.
[12:36] <legend2440> moDumass: ok well i have to get ready for work..   read last few comments on bottom of this page  https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/16262     good luck
[12:37] <Exuro> [  360.885949] b43: disagrees about version of symbol ssb_dma_translation
[12:37] <Exuro> [  360.885954] b43: Unknown symbol ssb_dma_translation
[12:37] <fde> unop: Right now, removing ssb is allowing b43 to load without errors, but iwconfig still isn't listing the device
[12:37] <fde> Exuro: lsmod | grep ssb ?
[12:37] <sac_san> unable to play flash content in firfox 3
[12:37] <Exuro> the Hardware Drivers manager thing says it's not enabled and not in use
[12:37] <ph8> Pie-rate:  overheated?
[12:37] <Exuro> ssb                    34308  0
[12:37] <ai3gtmc> I'm using vmware and my virtual hard disk is now full so I added another hard disk, how can I transfer the whole system to the new virtual disk?
[12:37] <Pie-rate> ph8: not a chance.
[12:37] <fde> Exuro: Also, your system is fully up to date?
[12:38]  * fde bangs head against a wall
[12:38] <fde> Why is ssb coming back when we blacklisted it?
[12:38] <legend2440> moDumass:   i think you have to find file where all that proxy stuff is and delete those lines   because when i type   set | grep -i proxy  i get nothing returned
[12:38] <Exuro> yes, I've installed all the updates
[12:38] <Kousotu> Exuro: renable it
[12:38] <Kousotu> reenable*
[12:38] <Exuro> the driver?
[12:38] <Exuro> and restart?
[12:38] <unop> fde, the bcm module seems to depend on it
[12:38] <Kousotu> Exuro: yea
[12:39] <Kousotu> Exuro: if it's disabled, and the driver is good, it will not respond
[12:39] <Exuro> okay, I'll try restarting *again*.  if it works I guess it's worth it
[12:39] <Exuro> brb
[12:39] <askand> How do I see what nameserver I use?
[12:39] <Pie-rate> ph8: where can i find out why it shut down? i can't see anything in the syslog
[12:39] <Kousotu> fde: for 64bit intel I need the AMD one?
[12:39] <unop> askand, dig
[12:39] <ph8> it might be your bios Pie-rate
[12:40] <fde> unop: ahh... well then it's a catch 22... awesome. I can't find who "Larry" is to even read what he wrote about the issue here: http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/bcm43xx-dev/2007-December/006588.html
[12:40] <Exuro> it's re-installing b43-fwcutter
[12:40] <Exuro> insalled
[12:40] <DRebellion> askand, your router probably hosts it's own DNS
[12:40] <Exuro> now I'll reboot...
[12:40] <moDumass> legend2440 surely in linux there is a way to find files with proxy in them
[12:40] <Kousotu> Exuro: :we'll be here
[12:40] <legend2440> moDumass: when you type    ifconfig     in terminal      lo   is there right?
[12:41] <Kousotu> I hate new pcs lol
[12:41] <chesterfan69> omg george bush has just been assassinated turn on your TV
[12:41] <Kousotu> dualbooting Ubuntu and Vista home premium 64
[12:41] <unop> !ot | chesterfan69
[12:41] <mlLK> is kde for whatever reason somewhat more robust than gnome in handling massive file transfers?
[12:41] <Kousotu> (on x86 live atm)
[12:41] <fde> Kousotu: yes... amd64 was the old name for x86_64 ... it now encompasses em64t (Intels 64bit pentium/core chips) and AMD's 64bit chips
[12:41] <moDumass> legend2440 http://www.pastebin.org/60050 updated pastebin, but lo is not there
[12:42] <Kousotu> fde: ok, good, didn't want to burn the wrong CD lol
[12:42] <Pie-rate> ph8: it shutdown gracefully
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Kousotu: just lose vista, issue solved :)
[12:42] <legend2440> moDumass: ok thats a problem  1 second
[12:42] <fde> Kousotu: AMD of course originated the design... Intel lost trying to push Xeon and Itanium (mostly Xeon)
[12:42] <lordleemo> moDumass: sudo ifup lo
[12:42] <fde> Kousotu: Note that Debian/Ubuntu support for multiarch is seriously lacking, so you will encounter issues trying to use the 64bit version.
[12:42] <Kousotu> ActionParsnip: hey... home premium 64 is behaving, and I need windows for some games anywaylol
[12:42] <mlLK> i've found vista plays a lot better w/ linux than xp did
[12:43] <Kousotu> fde: I can handle most of it
[12:43] <Kousotu> fde: how close are the native drivers from 86 and 64?
[12:43] <Pie-rate> ph8: and i'm pretty sure overheating issues cause it to shut down, not restart.
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Kousotu: fair point. i just dislike it
[12:43] <Exuro> back
[12:43] <Kousotu> ActionParsnip: makes 2 of us, but it's behaving
[12:43] <fde> Kousotu: They are the same driver for the most part... just compiled for 64bits
[12:43] <legend2440> moDumass: yes as lordleemo said     sudo ifup lo       then ifconfig again. is it there now?
[12:43] <fde> Kousotu: same drivers for every arch in Linux  :)
[12:44] <Kousotu> fde: okies. never used a 6bit till today (literally)
[12:44] <moDumass> lordleemo and legend2440 this is the output http://www.pastebin.org/60061
[12:44] <fde> Kousotu: except for the fun stuff out of the kernel tree
[12:44] <Kousotu> 64*
[12:44] <moDumass> for sudo ifup lo
[12:44] <Kousotu> fde: such as?
[12:44] <Kousotu> plz tll me wine will work...
[12:44] <Kousotu> lol
[12:44] <InfecteX> Hello, i have some problems with Ubuntu and i don't know how to repair them. First, when i surf the internet with Firefox sometimes it freeze (especialy whenn i look to videos). Second, My nautilius is crashing sometimes from unknown reasons. Can you guys help me?
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Kousotu: to you itll appear the same, undr the hood its a lot more efficient on your cpu
[12:45] <mark_> I don't understand the twinkle registration
[12:45] <Kousotu> InfecteX: define video freezes please
[12:45] <fde> Kousotu: Nvidia/ATI ... various Creative Labs cards... etc
[12:45] <moDumass> lordleemo and legend2440 um, after sudo ifup lo and then ifconfig there is no lo
[12:45] <moDumass> ignoring unknown interface lo=lo
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> InfecteX: are you running 64bit firefox3 with flash?
[12:45] <Kousotu> fde:  have nvidia 7100
[12:45] <legend2440> moDumass: ok   gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces     whats in there?
[12:45] <InfecteX> ActionParsnip: No
[12:45] <Exuro> ﻿Kousotu: I'm back
[12:45] <fde> Kousotu: I have no idea what nvidia... I think they have 64bit drivers though...
[12:45] <Kousotu> fde: it should be o, considering the windows drivers are fine, and it's old
[12:46] <Kousotu> Exuro: yep, I saw you
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> InfecteX: you running 64bit?
[12:46] <Exuro> okay
[12:46] <mark_> What the hell is a realm?
[12:46] <InfecteX> Kousotu: SOmetimes the video freze at 00.02 on youtube and other websites. Sometimes the browser itself is freezing.
[12:46] <fde> Kousotu: Wine won't work... they use the 64bit version
[12:46] <InfecteX> ActionParsnip: No
[12:46] <ph8> Pie-rate:  Sorry i read shutdown
[12:46] <mark_> What can't it be plain and simple?
[12:46] <moDumass> legend2440 that doesnt seem to go anywhere
[12:46] <ph8> if you're up-to-date and there's nothing in syslog, report a bug
[12:46] <moDumass> no response to that one
[12:46] <Kousotu> InfecteX: using gnash, or flash player?
[12:46] <sac_san> unable to play flash content in firefox 3
[12:46] <InfecteX> Kousotu: Flash
[12:46] <moDumass> oh yeh gedit, man
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> InfecteX: hmm, you could try renaming your ~/.mozilla folder after killing firefox
[12:46] <moDumass> gedit doesnt seem to respond anymore
[12:47] <moDumass> lemme try with another text editor
[12:47] <mark_> I hate voip it sucks
[12:47] <Kousotu> InfecteX: I use gnash wit not problems
[12:47] <mark_> None of them work
[12:47] <legend2440> moDumass: got mouse or nano?
[12:47] <Kousotu> mark_: stop using it?
[12:47] <InfecteX> ActionParsnip: What you mean?
[12:47] <legend2440> mousepad
[12:47] <fde> moDumass: Applications > Accessories > Terminal ... 'gedit' ... what does it output?
[12:47] <confuded> Question: How to lock the screen on a Ubuntu Server machine without a GUI?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> InfecteX: in your home dir there is a folder named .mozilla
[12:47] <fde> confuded: you can't without x...
[12:47] <DeadPanda> confuded: just logout? do your session in 'screen' if you must, then you can reattach to it
[12:47] <moDumass> i opened it in mousepad
[12:48] <InfecteX> ActionParsnip: no
[12:48] <unop> confuded, your server has a GUI?
[12:48] <Kousotu> fde: you mean wine is only x86?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> InfecteX: it holds setting for firefox, if you rename it you'll get a stock profile
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> InfecteX: ls -a
[12:48] <legend2440> moDumass: anything in there?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> InfecteX: . at the start means hidden
[12:48] <fde> Kousotu: Well, you would be able to run 64bit Windows apps via 64bit Wine.
[12:48] <moDumass> legend2440 http://www.pastebin.org/60064
[12:48] <Kousotu> fde; looking to run x86 in 64bit linux
[12:48] <sac_san> unable to play flash content in firefox 3
[12:48] <InfecteX> ActionParsnip: Only .mozilla and .mozilla-thunderbird
[12:49] <moDumass> fde gedit opens, but not if i sudo or gksudo it
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> InfecteX: id rename .mozilla to something else
[12:49] <DaveG|> hey, for some reason, when ubuntu boots, it plays the login sound effect through my USB headset rather than my speakers... everything else plays through my speakers but Mplayer... anyone know how to fix this?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> InfecteX: if it makes no difference, rename back
[12:49] <InfecteX> ActionParsnip: Why
[12:49] <fde> Kousotu: the entire PC line is now x86 ... like I said, multiarch support sucks in Ubuntu
[12:49] <moDumass> legend2440 thats whats in that file http://www.pastebin.org/60064
[12:49] <fde> moDumass: what is output?
[12:49] <legend2440> moDumass: uncomment   auto lo
[12:49] <legend2440> iface lo inet loopback
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> InfecteX: why what?
[12:50] <InfecteX> ActionParsnip: Nvm
[12:50] <confuded> unop: no, has no gui
[12:50] <Kousotu> fde; x86 support sucks in windows too lol
[12:50] <InfecteX> ActionParsnip: How can i have multiple sound?
[12:50] <unop> spi343, though you probably have resolved your issue in some way. http://www.savvyadmin.com/virtualbox-wireless-bridging/ # it appears that a rule will fail to set ownership and/or permissions if the group you use does not exist.
[12:50] <confuded> DeadPanda: no, I need for noone to come and physically manipulate it
[12:50] <choreboy> oh no the new update includes hal... i hope i dont get stuck in an airlock
[12:50] <DRebellion> Does the kubuntu-desktop package include KDE4.1?
[12:50] <unop> confuded, so why do you want to "lock" your server? :)
[12:50] <confuded> DeadPanda: i have apps running
[12:51] <legend2440> modumass     then          sudo ifup lo       then     ifconfig          again. is it there now?
[12:51] <fde> confuded: then log out when you leave.
[12:51] <confuded> fde: that will terminate the service
[12:51] <confuded> fde: app
[12:51] <InfecteX> ActionParsnip: ?
[12:51] <fde> confuded: In an ideal world, you wouldn't even touch the server... you'd SSH into it when you need to do something
[12:51] <Kousotu> fde; 64 bit linux, only 64 bit wine win apps?
[12:51] <Kousotu> sorry, I'm a little confused
[12:51] <unop> confuded, if you ssh in.  you can use screen to launch apps and detach the screen and logout. the apps will continue to run
[12:51] <moDumass> wo,, gedit jsut opened now, 12 mins after i requested it
[12:51] <fde> confuded: screen
[12:51] <moDumass> hmm
[12:51] <moDumass> ok, gimme a sec
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> InfecteX: sup
[12:51] <moDumass> im removing auto lo
[12:51] <confuded> fde: what about it?
[12:51] <InfecteX> ActionParsnip: How can i have multiple sound?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> InfecteX: not sure
[12:52] <unop> !info screen | confuded
[12:52] <DeadPanda> confuded: so, like I said, run your apps in screen then detach it
[12:52] <Chaotic_Descent> I'm trying to play MP3s. it doesn't seem to reliably work. it was working before, now it's not. none of the audio players I have will play them.
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> InfecteX: i only have 1
[12:52] <mark_> http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200807311250521280x1024so6.png
[12:52] <legend2440> moDumass: no don't remove   uncomment  remove the #
[12:52] <Exuro> am I hopeless?
[12:52] <Exuro> should I just re-install ubuntu?
[12:52] <ai3gtmc> how do i umount a busy device?
[12:52] <fde> confuded: lets you disconnect the session from the current terminal ... so it still runs despite logging out etc
[12:52] <InfecteX> ActionParsnip: For example...i want sound from a game AND sound from music
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Exuro: wassup?
[12:52] <Kousotu> Exuro: no, just a problem we'll have to solve :)
[12:52] <confuded> DeadPanda: I do, but wont loging out terminate it?
[12:52] <mark_> You see how horribly unfriendly that is?
[12:52] <DaveG|> hey, for some reason, when ubuntu boots, it plays the login sound effect through my USB headset rather than my speakers... everything else plays through my speakers but Mplayer plays sound through the USB headset... anyone know how to fix this?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> InfecteX: thats what id websearch for :D
[12:52] <unop> ai3gtmc, make sure all processes that have files/directories open on that device are properly terminated first
[12:52] <DeadPanda> confuded: ah, see fde's response, it keeps them running on the machine for you
[12:52] <InfecteX> ...
[12:53] <legend2440> moDumass: no don't remove   uncomment  remove the #   then save the file
[12:53] <DeadPanda> confuded: you can even add crontab entries to spawn screens with your commands in them whe the machine comes online
[12:53] <Chaotic_Descent> XMMS was recommended one one forum I read, but I tried to install it and a client but it can't seem to run the daemon, so I guess it's not actually installed.
[12:53] <Kousotu> Exuro: maybe ndis the windows driver?
[12:53] <confuded> fde, DeadPanda  thanks
[12:53] <moDumass> legend2440 lo isnt there but there are other things that werent there first time round
[12:53] <InfecteX> Thanks for the help guys... no big deal...
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> InfecteX: get on your favourite websearch page and start looking
[12:53] <ai3gtmc> unop,it's my main harddisk im using partimage to backup but I cant because I need to unmount it first
[12:53] <qwert666_> Hi
[12:53] <moDumass> ok, il put it back
[12:53] <Exuro> but if the wlan0 device isn't there, the driver won't do anything will it?
[12:53]  * Kousotu waits for the shouts
[12:54] <unop> ai3gtmc, but you can't really dismount a device until all processes that are using files on it have been closed.
[12:54] <Exuro> (I don't understand what you mean anyway)
[12:54] <mark_> I don't know the stupid realm :(
[12:54] <Exuro> ndis?
[12:54] <Kousotu> Exuro: ; if you ndis it it acts like the native windows driver
[12:54] <Kousotu> ndiswrapper-common
[12:54] <unop> ai3gtmc, to find out what process might have files open.  sudo lsof | grep -i $DEVICE_NAME
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> mark_: wassup man>
[12:54] <filox> hello boys!
[12:54] <Exuro> oh
[12:54] <fde> Exuro: If iwconfig knows about no wireless extensions, then the driver is doing nothing.
[12:54] <Sink> Buenas, alguien que hable castellano
[12:54] <Sink> ?
[12:54] <Kousotu> (actually, snaptic ndiswrapper)
[12:54] <Exuro> exactly
[12:54] <moDumass> legend2440 for sudo ifup lo, i get Ignoring unknown interface lo=lo
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> !es | Sink
[12:54] <mark_> Stupid Twinkle won't let me log in to my stupid sipgate account
[12:55] <ai3gtmc> unop,is it ok to umount it? It's my main system, and Im using partimage on it
[12:55] <legend2440> moDumass: you should have    auto lo   and   iface lo inet loopback   on seperate lines   without    the # in front
[12:55] <Kousotu> sink: espanol?
[12:55] <unop> ai3gtmc, it's ok to dismount it if it is done properly
[12:55] <Chaotic_Descent> "XMMS2tray is a small XMMS 2 client" when I run it, it can't connect to the XMMS2 Daemon, so it tries to run it and it fails. I don't really understand what it's doing/wants...
[12:55] <Kousotu> damn bots runing all my fun :(
[12:55] <unop> ai3gtmc, don't dismount it if files are still being accessed on it
[12:55] <moDumass> and ifconfig, gimme a sec http://www.pastebin.org/60077
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> Kousotu: just makes life easier
[12:55] <ai3gtmc> hm I guess ill just use the partimage live cd trhen.
[12:56] <Kousotu> ok, why the hall is alts not working! :(
[12:56] <Kousotu> ActionParsnip: still, ruins my fun :P
[12:56] <mark_> I really am at the end of my tether
[12:56] <Chaotic_Descent> "gxmms2 is a GTK2 based XMMS2 client" I installed that. but couldn't find anything to click on in the menu. there's no xmms or xmms2 command to run either, so I'm stumped as to what installing it actually did.
[12:56] <Exuro> agh, I think it'd be easier to just re-install ubuntu
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Kousotu: if you wanna repeat stuff loads for fun then go ahead
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Kousotu: :D
[12:56] <legend2440> moDumass: ok well read  bottom of this page. i have to go good luck    http://www.darcynorman.net/2007/01/01/ubuntu-server-not-seeing-localhost/
[12:56] <Kousotu> lmao
[12:57] <moDumass> yeh, awesome, i think its stoipped and started firestarter firewall
[12:57] <Exuro> if I can keep my junkmail filter training for Thunderbird then I'd be good
[12:57] <moDumass> i think
[12:57] <Exuro> I haven't installed much on this box anyway
[12:57] <Kousotu> Exuro: why not just use ndiswrapper?
[12:57] <unop> Chaotic_Descent, you might need to run.  sudo update-menus
[12:57] <moDumass> and now there is LO
[12:57] <moDumass> booya, you guys are awesome
[12:57] <ra21vi> how can I boot in init 3
[12:57] <fde> Chaotic_Descent: Why are you wanting to use XMMS? Try audacious maybe? (fork of old xmms)
[12:58] <Chaotic_Descent> sudo: update-menus: command not found
[12:58] <Exuro> ﻿Kousotu: 1) I don't know how to use it 2) it won't bring the wlan0 device back will it?
[12:58] <moDumass> i love both of you, i have my localhost back
[12:58] <DocWolf> hey guys got a question I installed epic through synaptic and its not showing up any idea whats going on here?
[12:58] <Vegombrei> hi is there a place on irc where i could download music ?
[12:58] <Kousotu> Exuro: 1: I'll help you 2: yes
[12:58] <moDumass> legend2440 thanks man/person, that was awesome, i have localhost back
[12:58] <citizen42alpha> Vegombrei = yes.
[12:58] <fde> ra21vi: In Ubuntu, run levels 2-5 are exactly the same.
[12:58] <Kousotu> Exuro: it will bring back wlan, that's how I use my card
[12:58] <legend2440> moDumass: ok is gedit opening any better now?
[12:58] <unop> Chaotic_Descent, hmm, not sure, i don't use gnome all that much.  perhaps a logout and log back in then?
[12:58] <Vegombrei> citizen42alpha: could you please help me bro
[12:59] <fde> ra21vi: soo... doing that would accomplish nothing at all  :P
[12:59] <Chaotic_Descent> fde: because I don't know how to find the good apps. I'll try that one.
[12:59] <remsoft> hi everybody
[12:59] <DocWolf> mornin rem
[12:59] <filox> i have installed postfix, so everyname goes in /var/mail/username , i use mail command to read it, how can i read it from another computer with like a pop/imap server?
[12:59] <Kousotu> hey remsoft
[12:59] <Exuro> oh, alright then
[12:59] <Exuro> what do I do?
[12:59] <remsoft> can you help me to install ubuntu on my USB key
[12:59] <fde> ra21vi: I can tell you how to though, so you can know for other Linux machines... and to prove I'm right
[12:59] <HymnToLife> filox: install a pop/imap server ;)
[13:00] <Kousotu> exuro: in ssnaptic search ndiswrapper
[13:00] <HymnToLife> filox: doevecot is a good choice
[13:00] <filox> HymnToLife
[13:00] <Chaotic_Descent> fde: Thanks. This thing is more like WinAmp. I can actually play files instead of having to navigate through ID3 tags of every single song I have.
[13:00] <filox> HymnToLife is best cyrus or dovecot?
[13:00] <Kousotu> it will give a few items, insall anything that starts with "ndiswrapper"
[13:00] <unop> filox, you need to setup a pop/imap server - dovecot might work best
[13:00] <fde> Chaotic_Descent: yw
[13:00] <DocWolf> remsoft check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[13:00] <ogzy> what i try to change my UDMA level using hdparm as hdparm -X udma5 /dev/sda, i get setting xfermode to 65 (UltraDMA mode1)
[13:00] <filox> HymnToLife ok
[13:00] <ogzy> SG_IO: bad/missing ATA_16 sense data::  70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0a 00 00 00 00 24 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[13:00] <ogzy>  HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setxfermode) failed: Input/output error is there a solution without compiling kernel
[13:00] <Kousotu> Exuro: in the meantime, I am goint to reboot, an I will be back before they are done installling
[13:01] <legend2440> moDumass: ok is gedit opening any better now?
[13:01] <filox> HymnToLife is there any good alternative to exchange?
[13:01] <Vegombrei> is there any p2p software like limewire for ubuntu ?
[13:01] <fde> filox: openxchange comes to mind... what exactly do you need though? just mail?
[13:01] <Kousotu> Exuro: you good for oh... 30 sec while I reboot?
[13:02] <Opalinus> @vegombrei try aMule
[13:02] <fde> Vegombrei: lets see... there is Limewire...
[13:02] <ogzy> it should be when i try to ... sorry for typo
[13:02] <filox> HymnToLife can i talk to you in private
[13:02] <filox> ?
[13:02] <fde> Vegombrei: it is java, so is cross platform.
[13:02] <HymnToLife> filox: I don't think so, lots of people are whining about it :p
[13:02] <HymnToLife> (abount an Exchange replacement, that is)
[13:02] <HymnToLife> and sure, go ahead
[13:02] <fde> Vegombrei: personally, I'd recommend gtk-gnutella over limewire though
[13:02] <Vegombrei> fde: hehehe they have a limewire for ubuntu ?? what do you mean by cross platform ?
[13:02] <filox> HymnToLife i have an active directory (AD) and an exchange 2000
[13:02] <Pici> !p2p > Vegombrei
[13:02] <filox> contact address calendar
[13:02] <Kousotu> fde: frostwire is what I'd recommend
[13:03] <filox> exchange db is fulll
[13:03] <filox> i need an unklimited mail server
[13:03] <unop> filox, novell's groupwise might be the best alternative to exchange - though, i am not sure about licensing and costs.
[13:03] <HymnToLife> filox: yeah, I don't think there's a *nix alternative for it
[13:03] <Kousotu> anywhos.. I'll brb guys
[13:03] <HymnToLife> it's something lots of people whine about
[13:03] <fde> Kousotu: never tried it... can it connect to multiple different gnutella networks?
[13:03] <backenfutter> is there somebody in here, who knows his way around with psybnc?
[13:04] <Vegombrei> fde: can i apt-get install gtk-gnutella ??
[13:04] <fde> Vegombrei: yes
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Vegombrei: id try tab completing the package name to make sure
[13:04] <filox> HymnToLife i found zimbra community, kolab, scalix...... u know?
[13:04] <filox> and postpath
[13:04] <Vegombrei> ActionParsnip: how do i do that ?
[13:05] <hotspot> server nomi.cz
[13:05] <Exuro> it's installed
[13:05] <fde> Vegombrei: you hit tab say after 'gtk-g' ... or something... it's there though, he just doesn't trust me
[13:05] <DocWolf> remsoft see pm please
[13:05] <fde> Vegombrei: Or he's trying to teach you good habits, one or the other
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Vegombrei: do you use tab to complete commands and filenames?
[13:05] <Vegombrei> fde :)
[13:05] <filox> anyone who try zimbra?
[13:05] <oobe> _joker, got your attention didnt i
[13:06] <thomc> Is it possible to access in Windows an external disk that was encrypted in Ubuntu?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> fde: they are good habits that destroy normal typing
[13:06] <Vegombrei> ActionParsnip: dude nothing happens when i hit tab after gtk-gn
[13:06] <fde> Vegombrei: In the Linux world, only the uninitiated actually type out full commands or paths... the rest of us break our tab keys
[13:06] <JennyG> lol
[13:06] <DocWolf> hear that fde
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Vegombrei: then it doesnt exist
[13:06] <qwert666_> i have a problem with Ati Catalyst COntrol Center http://pastie.org/private/enebhiwk5hb3s3xukhxbg any clues ?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Vegombrei: sudo apt-get install gtk-en(press tab here)
[13:07] <DocWolf> qwert666_,  I might be able to help you there I had to install it rescently on a laptop
[13:08] <fde> Vegombrei: for more fun, sud[tab] apt-g[tab] i[tab] gtk-g[tab]
[13:08] <Vegombrei> fde: i think ActionParsnip is right .. there is no gtk-gnutella
[13:08] <fde> Vegombrei: it's in universe
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Vegombrei: try tabbing whever you wanna type stuff, saves time
[13:08] <qwert666_> DocWolf: ok
[13:09] <Vegombrei> fde: now dude you dont expect me to build a rocket and go looking for it in the universe bro
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Vegombrei: you can even sudo apt-g(tab) ins(tab) firef(tab)
[13:09] <adi_smg> aerin
[13:09] <fde> Vegombrei: haha... System > Administration > Software Sources ... first tab ... make sure the top 4 check boxes are checked...
[13:10] <fde> ActionParsnip: just i[tab]
[13:10] <Vegombrei> ActionParsnip: yeah i didnt know ubuntu had tab for predictive text .. makes things much easier bro
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> qwert666_: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/xorg-ee-failed-to-load-module-glx-loader-failed-7-320446/
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Vegombrei: its been in linux for ages, xp does it too in cmd.exe
[13:10] <fde> Vegombrei: makes it REALLY annoying to go to other distros  :P
[13:10] <Vegombrei> fde: them top four boxes are checked
[13:11] <Vegombrei> ActionParsnip: really ... i didnt know that .. but hey i ditched windows a few months ago .. am happy with ubuntu and i use mac at work
[13:11] <fde> fde@trinity:~$ apt-cache search gtk-gnutella
[13:11] <fde> gtk-gnutella - shares files in a peer to peer network
[13:11] <fde> Section: universe/net
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> Vegombrei: ive used it for ages, just xp on my work lappy but its pretty much an rdp station
[13:12] <Exuro> where'd ﻿Kousotu go?
[13:13] <fde> Exuro: didn't say
[13:14] <Vegombrei> fde: so how do i get gtk ?
[13:14] <murlidhar> i have dual booted intrepid and hardy . now i want to have the grub of hardy used instead of intrepid cuz i have to remove intrepid on this machine . how to do that ?
[13:14] <fde> Vegombrei: sudo aptitude install gtk-gnutella <-- copy and paste
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> !grub | murlidhar
[13:15] <fde> murlidhar: boot to hardy and 'grub-install /dev/hda' for instance
[13:15] <Exuro> *sigh*, he said he was restarting and he'd be back before the package installed...
[13:16] <Vegombrei> fde: downloading ..... thanks
[13:16] <fde> Exuro: do you have your Windows wireless drivers?
[13:16] <Exuro> I think so
[13:16] <DocWolf> blech gatesware
[13:17] <fde> Exuro: if so, throw them in the machine, and look for a .inf file ... then 'ndiswrapper -i whatever.inf' ... then ndiswrapper -l ... should say it's there
[13:17] <fde> DocWolf: His broadcom isn't supported
[13:17] <DocWolf> I got mine to work
[13:17] <fde> DocWolf: Cool, doesn't mean they all do... I've gotten about 40 different ones working
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> Exuro: get the driver from manufacturers website
[13:18] <DocWolf> hear that whats with broadcom and the slap stick help they offer
[13:18] <murlidhar> fde: thanks
[13:18] <fde> DocWolf: #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:19] <hubuntu> how do I add a user to the sudoers file?
[13:19] <hubuntu> usermod -a -G sudo username
[13:19] <hubuntu> ?
[13:19] <fde> hubuntu: no
[13:19] <fde> hubuntu: visudo
[13:19] <hubuntu> visudo is that a command?
[13:20] <fde> hubuntu: yes... follow the syntax in the file already
[13:20] <hubuntu> thx fde
[13:20] <geirha> hubuntu: if you want the user to be able to run programs using sudo, then "sudo adduser the_user admin"
[13:20] <geirha> hubuntu: all users that are a member of the admin group can use sudo in the "default" way
[13:20] <iopk> my server has a RAID10 configuration, which should allow for 1 disk to fail but the system to continue working. However, is there a way to monitor WHEN a disk failed, so that we can change it with a correct disk?
[13:21] <Bigmack83> i am going to be setting up a ubuntu server for my website, does anyone know of any good tutorials or how-to's for setting up ubuntu server as a web host. tips, tricks, etc...
[13:21] <Bigmack83> or things like what apps i should have to have a good setup
[13:21] <fde> geirha: ahh, you taught me something - or rather pointed something new out... used to be it added the actual user in there, not auto-added to the group... hmm
[13:22] <fde> !lamp > Bigmack83 A good start would be
[13:22] <geirha> Bigmack83: try a google with the three keywords: lamp ubuntu server
[13:22] <hubuntu> geirha I'm going to try that, thanks.. vim is just not my thing.
[13:22] <marius> hi, i have 2 soundcards in my pc and at the audio settings gui one picked, and it works, but under firefox the flsahplayer plays the sound  on the second one
[13:23] <hubuntu> geirha, it says the admin group does not exist...
[13:23] <hubuntu> should I try adm?
[13:23] <eky> fdsadf
[13:23] <fde> hubuntu: It uses $EDITOR ... you're $EDITOR is just vim
[13:23] <kou> Exuro: you here?
[13:23] <kou> sorry, MY pc crashed!
[13:23] <fde> hubuntu: what version of Ubuntu?
[13:23] <s33nagain> Why is there nobody here? last night there were 1200 somthing people here?
[13:23] <geirha> hubuntu: hm, which ubuntu release are you using
[13:23] <hubuntu> fde which file is it then?
[13:23] <s33nagain> is the bot here?
[13:23] <hubuntu> 8.04
[13:23] <fde> hubuntu: I'd rather not say, you can screw things up if you edit it directly
[13:23] <s33nagain> !noroot >> s33nagain
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> s33nagain: there are 1301 here now
[13:23] <larson9999> errrr, there's 1301 now
[13:23] <kou> !hi | s33nagain
[13:24] <kou> lol
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> 1301 > 1200
[13:24] <geirha> hubuntu: there really should be an admin group ... have you removed any groups by any chance?
[13:24] <fde> hubuntu: visudo has some safeguards so you don't mess up
[13:24] <kou> Exuro: hello....
[13:24] <Nillerz> Hello everyone
[13:24] <hubuntu> no geirha, but maybe ebox did... I installed it, gave me 1000 errors so I removed it.
[13:24] <Bigmack83> i got the PM. well my site will be a ful server with a pretty decent amount of traffick. how well does lamp hold up compared to installing mysql/php/apache independantly?
[13:24] <ogzy> i am not able to change my dma settings via hdparm -X udma5 /dev/sda, i got  HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setxfermode) failed: Input/output error, any solution without compiling kernel?
[13:24] <fde> kou: I told him how to set up ndiswrapper, I think he's doing that atm
[13:25] <larson9999> far less if you weed out those with characters i can't type in their nicks :)  not that a guy with 4 9's in his has room to talk.
[13:25] <fde> Bigmack83: umm... it's the same thing
[13:25] <kousotu> thanks fde
[13:25] <joaopinto> Bigmack83, lamp is mysql+php+apache
[13:25] <kousotu> I repartioned vist and it went nuts
[13:25] <kousotu> it keeps bsoding, I'm reinstaling my backup
[13:25] <Exuro> oh
[13:25] <larson9999> kousotu, might be the nicest thing that's ever happened to you :)
[13:25] <Bigmack83> fde: Yea i know lamp is all those, i just didnt know if there would be any performance difference
[13:25] <Exuro> hello
[13:25] <fde> kousotu: changing partition table on a live system?
[13:26] <kousotu> fde: huh?
[13:26] <joaopinto> Bigmack83, erm, performance differences between what ? different names for the same software group
[13:26] <kousotu> fde: I used Gparted
[13:26] <geirha> hubuntu: ouch. And you don't see the admin group when you type "groups" as your user?
[13:26] <Vegombrei> fde: dude gtk-gnutella seriously rocks dude ..its waaay better than limewire
[13:26] <fde> Bigmack83: you can't install 'lamp' (well, you probably can... but it'll be a meta package)
[13:26] <hubuntu> no geirha
[13:26] <fde> Vegombrei: :)
[13:26] <s33nagain> Hello?
[13:26] <kousotu> (ystem obviously didn't have uuntu on it yet)
[13:26] <hubuntu> I do not see it even when I am root
[13:26] <hubuntu> su -
[13:26] <kousotu> ubuntu*
[13:26] <fde> kousotu: did you umount everything first, or use a livecd?
[13:27] <kousotu> fde: yes, and yes
[13:27] <alraune> ﻿kousotu: defragmented before
[13:27] <alraune> ﻿kousotu: defragmented before ?
[13:27] <hubuntu> geirha, I think ebox is really messy... It just does not work well under 8.04... what a pity
[13:27] <larson9999> while i haven't used vista more than a couple hours, historically it hasn't be too hard to make windows bsod after a partition.
[13:28] <kousotu> alraune: and defrag on 500gb on a fresh vista install takes?
[13:28] <Exuro> I can't find the driver cd...
[13:28] <Exuro> should I just reboot in windows and find it?
[13:28] <geirha> hubuntu: seems it has messed your system up quite a bit ... anyway, admin group has gid 113. So try recreating the group: addgroup --gid 113 admin
[13:28] <Vegombrei> fde: it wont work .. says im firewalled or something
[13:28] <Bigmack83> ok cool. well im pretty new to using ubuntu/linux and especially a server setup. just didnt know if there was a difference. apparently not. thanks
[13:28] <kousotu> exruo: you still have a windows partion on the pc?
[13:28] <fde> geirha: it'll be commented out in sudoers file... you mind showing him how to uncomment it in that file, or do you not know how?
[13:28] <alraune> ﻿kousotu: you had vista on this 500G and wanted to resize it for having space for linux ?
[13:29] <kousotu> alraune: exactly
[13:29] <fde> Vegombrei: hmm... you should still be able to download from others?
[13:29] <hubuntu> The GID 113 is already in use... I guess I will have to restate my vps (again...) and get a fresh start. It's hard to say it but hardy is too buggy for an LTS.
[13:29] <kousotu> alraune: wanted to move the 200gb recovery/run partions to about 350 and 100 and and pt ubuntu on the rest
[13:29] <alraune> ﻿kousotu: as vista wa fresh installed, shoulddn't be much defragmented anyway
[13:29] <kousotu> (less space than 50gb though)
[13:30] <Vegombrei> it says im firewalled both tcp and udp
[13:30] <Vegombrei> fde: it says im firewalled both tcp and udp
[13:30] <hubuntu> fde, really just tell me the file I will make a backup and I can access directly as root so it won't get messed up
[13:30] <reese> is there a good oss mixer, beside ossxmix?
[13:30] <kousotu> alraune: it died on boot lol, so I'll defrag when it's istalled again and go fom there
[13:30] <geirha> hubuntu: what does this give: grep ':113:' /etc/group
[13:30] <fde> hubuntu: I warned you... /etc/sudoers
[13:31] <alraune> ﻿kousotu: if I tried that, I would first partition/format the disk....
[13:31] <kousotu> alraune: xp freah is about 15% fragged
[13:31] <hubuntu> geirha, you are not going to believe this: clamav:x:113:
[13:31] <hubuntu> thanks fde
[13:31] <kousotu> alraune: it's oem
[13:31] <fde> hubuntu: uncomment '%wheel' ... and edit /etc/groups and put yourself in the wheel group (append your username to the end of the line)
[13:31] <Vegombrei> fde: but im actually not firewalled atall
[13:31] <kousotu> or believ me, that is wha I would have done
[13:31] <kousotu> lol
[13:31] <Xecuter> hi! anyone here using ushare?
[13:31] <alraune> ﻿kousotu: ...so xp,vista and ubuntu  oohm oem...
[13:32] <kousotu> alraune: my laptop (which I'm on atm) did that
[13:32] <fde> Vegombrei: yeah... I don't feel like messing with it right now, and it's not installed here... I use bittorrent these days... but you wanted something like limewire
[13:32] <hubuntu> thanx fde
[13:32] <kousotu> but no XP on the new desktop
[13:32] <kousotu> not yet lol
[13:32] <hubuntu> and geirha
[13:32] <hubuntu> I'll give it a try
[13:32] <fde> hubuntu: if you get confused... ASK
[13:32] <Bigmack83> anyone knoe of any good tutorials for setting up and tweaking an ubuntu server? firewalls, what apps i should have for a server and maybe how to set them up properly. I want to make sure i have everything i need when i set mine up and have it secure as possible
[13:32] <Renu> can anybody help me!i don t have sound
[13:33] <alraune> ﻿kousotu: so the problem u have is that you can't install vista on a smaller partit. then...
[13:33] <kousotu> renu: surround: turn it up
[13:33] <fde> hubuntu: by 'uncomment' I mean ONLY remove the '#' in the line that has '%wheel ALL=ALL (ALL)'
[13:33] <Vegombrei> fde: yeah .. actually i wanted something i could use to download some mp3s ..you know of any other client that might work ?
[13:33] <hubuntu> no %wheel
[13:33] <fde> hubuntu: there is NOPASSWD also, but that is insecure
[13:33] <hubuntu> it seems ebox is been there
[13:33] <geirha> hubuntu: oops, I misread, it's 114 in my /etc/group ... but 113 is different too, I guess the gids aren't equal from system to system, even for system groups
[13:33] <Renu> i can not hear on sites ,xmms,vlc,i sais that sound card is configure properly
[13:33] <citizen42alpha> vego - try frostwire, if it hasn't already been suggested.
[13:33] <kousotu> Vegombrei: frostwire
[13:34] <citizen42alpha> =
[13:34] <fde> hubuntu: then we can have no idea... ask #ebox perhaps?
[13:34] <kousotu> renu: might not be
[13:34] <Renu> how to configure it?
[13:34] <alraune> ﻿kousotu: did you buy vista with ur new desktop ?
[13:34] <kousotu> alraune: yes, this afternoon, literally
[13:35] <hubuntu> I just realized that for a server maybe Debian is the way... (and I hate to say it, but it's just the way it is) thanx again fde and geirha
[13:35] <kousotu> er.. yesterday afternoon
[13:35] <kousotu> lol
[13:35] <kousotu> (7:30 m here now
[13:35] <kousotu> am*
[13:35] <Renu> kousotu do u know how to configure it?
[13:35] <XiXaQ> is there an easy way to only upgrade the kernel and not download all the other updates?
[13:35] <fde> hubuntu: Actually, I'd suggest that CentOS is the way... but choose what you will
[13:36] <Guest82217> hello does anyone know of any applications that will convert a mpeg-4 file into an avi file?
[13:36] <alraune> ﻿kousotu: I'm no specialist for redmonds licenses, but if you bought it, you might ask microsoft for the problem... lol one way OS....
[13:36] <joaopinto> XiXaQ, sudo apt-get install package (it will only upgrade the packaged and related dependencies)
[13:36] <hubuntu> is an option in slicehost too, maybe i'll give it a shot
[13:36] <XiXaQ> joaopinto, then, apt-get install linux-generic?
[13:36] <kousotu> alraune: I have a few more ticks up my sleve, if all else fails I'll wubi it
[13:36] <joaopinto> Guest10015, try with avidemux
[13:36] <joaopinto> XiXaQ, yes, should work
[13:37] <Renu> does anybody know to configure a soundcard on ubuntu 7.10?
[13:37] <adi_smg> aerin
[13:37] <kousotu> alraune: I love the error it gives though. "rurn chkdsk /f"   ... ok... boot the os thn? lol
[13:37] <alraune> renu: pastebin your /etc/modules
[13:38] <aerin> aerin
[13:38] <kousotu> at least XP is logical on the repartioning...
[13:39] <kousotu> vista... ugh...
[13:39] <Renu> alraune ...?
[13:39] <alraune> ﻿kousotu:or think of an extra drive for ubuntu
[13:40] <alraune> renu: k, lets do the sheep...  se my pm
[13:40] <sulo> hi, is someone here using ubuntu on a mac?
[13:40] <s33nagai2> sulo: whhy?
[13:41] <s33nagai2> I own a mac, so Im sure I might be able to help, but I don't run ubuntu on it...
[13:41] <hubuntu> sulo a power pc or a Intel Mac?
[13:41] <kousotu> alraune: I havean external, trying to avoid that
[13:41] <pulseezar> good afternoon all, just a quick question: If I have two separate hard drives and set them both to mount at / will something screw up?
[13:41] <sulo> i installed ubuntu on my macbook.. but everytime i boot i first get a lightblue screen for about a minute .. i dont know how i can get rid of it
[13:42] <hubuntu> sulo DO you get into the system after that minute?
[13:42] <sulo> yes .. after that minute grub starts and all goes its way
[13:42] <s33nagai2> pulseezar: depends... I don't know... what are on the drives?
[13:42] <sulo> but this 1 min waiing sucks ^^
[13:43] <hubuntu> pulseezar, it depends on your configuration (raid) normally the system won't allow you to mount to devices in the same mount point (/ being a mount point and /anotherdrive being another mount point)
[13:43] <vins> hi, do you know how to have transparency of windows with fluxbox ? I have installed xcompmgr and transset, ti have activated composite in xorg.conf but I have transparency only on title bar, not on all the window.
[13:43] <kousotu> stupid thing...
[13:43] <vins> an idea ?
[13:43] <hubuntu> I see... I have installed Ubuntu in several macs and never heard of that specific problem
[13:43] <kousotu> NOT it's got a 360 and an 54
[13:43] <banisterfiend> hey guys i tried to download the source for a product going: apt-get source ruby   but i got this error: E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[13:43] <banisterfiend> what do i do? how do i add sources to my URI?
[13:44] <remoteCTR1> umm... with what command to i unzip a tar.bz2? *blush*
[13:44] <banisterfiend> to my sourses.list etc
[13:44] <s33nagai2> pulseezar: Thought it could depend... pulseezar?
[13:44] <sulo> hubuntu: i have just ubuntu installed no mac os anymore
[13:44] <kousotu> whichmeans I gave Ubuntu too much space lol
[13:44] <kousotu> ah well...
[13:44] <sulo> i did: make msdos disklabel... and then installed ubuntu on the whole hdd
[13:44] <pulseezar> ﻿s33nagai2: one is the file system, one is just for storage but is empty for now
[13:44] <sulo> hubuntu: how did you do it?
[13:45] <hubuntu> sulo then I would file a bug in launchpad.net and seek advice there...
[13:45] <s33nagai2> pulseezar: Why do you want to mount them both to "/"?
[13:45] <pulseezar> the empty drive is set to mount at /users/local
[13:45] <hubuntu> sulo: I just installed it in another partition, always kept Mac OS X
[13:46] <pulseezar> i thought that might be the reason it wasn't showing up in "computer" screen on the file browser
[13:46] <hubuntu> so I dunno
[13:46] <voicegrrrl> Can anyone direct me to instructions for uninstalling 2.6.24-20?
[13:47] <s33nagai2> pulseezar: Well it won't show up on the computer screen unless it is "/" or a removable drive.
[13:47] <balle_> what's the default folder for transferred files over pidgin? i have lost a couple of pictures...
[13:47] <slammed87d21> caa anyone help me install a tar.gz file?
[13:48] <xnv> slammed87d21: tar.gz is just a compressed file like a .zip
[13:48] <s33nagai2> pulseezar: If set them up both as mount, Ubuntu may have a fit!
[13:48] <Starnestommy> slammed87d21: extract it then read the readme and install files in it
[13:48] <xnv> slammed87d21: To extract, use tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz
[13:48] <Sink> /join #ubuntu-es
[13:48] <pulseezar> haha
[13:48] <jsoft> What would you guys reccomend as an editor for a *nix newbie to do coding in?
[13:49] <pulseezar> i'm a fool
[13:49] <Sink> ups
[13:49] <Sink> xDD
[13:49] <xnv> jsoft: vim
[13:49] <jsoft> xnv: no, NOT vim.
[13:49] <s33nagai2> pulseezar: If want it to be easily accessable and be storage, I would set it up as /home during Ubuntu setup.
[13:49] <pulseezar> just remembered one of those fundamental differences between windows and linux
[13:49] <remoteCTR1> isnt the command to unzip a ta.bz2 tar xjf bla.tar.bz2? cos that returns me an error
[13:49] <slammed87d21> im tis is over my headrying to install madwifi, but since im new, th
[13:49] <pulseezar> can i change it by modifying fstab or something?
[13:49] <xnv> jsoft: What will you be coding?
[13:50] <SCIENCENODE> SCIENCENODE is now online guys!!!  visit SCIENCENODE.COM
[13:50] <h0b0n1> hello all
[13:50] <jsoft> It is not for me, but things like C, python, and perhaps lisp.
[13:50] <jsoft> xnv: ^^^
[13:50] <mandork_x> SCIENCENODE is now online guys!!  visit SCIENCENODE.COM
[13:50] <xnv> jsoft: Then, yes, vim
[13:50] <jsoft> No, not vim.
[13:50] <gordonjcp> !ops | mandork_x spamming
[13:50] <h0b0n1> I have proble using VMWare Server 2.0 Rc1 on Hardy
[13:50] <remoteCTR1> !tar.bz2
[13:50] <kousotu> fde: thanks for taking ovr for me, my stupid pc wanted to act up
[13:50]  * gordonjcp visits sciencenode.com with metasploit
[13:50] <Exuro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/32581/
[13:51] <s33nagai2> pulseezar: I don't thing you can set that up after install.
[13:51] <Exuro> now what?
[13:51] <xnv> jsoft: You asked. You have your answer.
[13:51] <s33nagai2> But you can change the ones mount point, but not to install.
[13:51] <jsoft> xnv: I have 'an' answer. A poor one.
[13:51] <h0b0n1> the error is "web service not available" each time i try to login
[13:51] <fde> jsoft: GUI programming? Can't beat Anjuta (for GTK) ... vim is really designed for programmers, so idk what else would be better.
[13:51] <pulseezar> i may as well try it's a fresh install anyway
[13:51] <h0b0n1> can someone help me pls
[13:51] <pulseezar> cheers for the help ﻿s33nagai2
[13:51] <fde> kousotu: I haven't heard back from him... did he say it worked?
[13:51] <s33nagai2> pulseezar: wait!
[13:51] <xnv> jsoft: By your evaluation, which is probably wrong, unless there are some other conditions which you have not shared.
[13:52] <Exuro> no
[13:52] <pulseezar> yea
[13:52] <s33nagai2> pulseezar: oh wait nevermind...
[13:52] <fde> Exuro: What have you done so far? ndiswrapper -l return the driver?
[13:52] <s33nagai2> pulseezar: your welcome
[13:52] <Exuro> yes
[13:52] <Exuro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/32581/
[13:52] <s33nagai2> pulseezar:  sorry.
[13:52] <pulseezar> haha
[13:52] <jsoft> xnv: a newbie who wants to do some coding. Not all day every day. vim is certainly not suitable for that.
[13:52] <pulseezar> np
[13:53] <xnv> jsoft: You said a *nix newbie, not a coding newbie
[13:53] <Exuro> but the *hardware* still isn't there...
[13:53] <Exuro> I rebooted in windows and tested it, and it works fine, so it's not the hardware's problem
[13:53] <jsoft> xnv: I did say *nix newbie, but where did I say coding newbie?
[13:53] <geirha> pulseezar: what is on those partitions at the moment exactly?
[13:53] <fde> Exuro: ok... echo 'blacklist b43' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ... so they don't conflict... reboot
[13:53] <h0b0n1> anyone ?
[13:53] <Agion> what program would you recommend on running windows in ubuntu??
[13:54] <h0b0n1> Agion: VMWare
[13:54] <fde> Exuro: should be able to do iwconfig then... and all other things you've been trying  :)
[13:54] <Agion> k, thank you...
[13:54] <pulseezar> ﻿geirha: one drive has ubuntu on it, the other is empty but will be used for music, video eyc
[13:54] <zerogate> Agion, VirtualBox
[13:54] <h0b0n1> but i'm still have trouble on it .. :(
[13:54] <s33nagai2> geirha: he said one is the ubuntu install and one is empty (but he wants it for storage).
[13:54] <xnv> jsoft: You didn't, which is my point. Someone who is going to do coding and needs a text editor should learn vim. I use it all day every day. If this person is only going to be poking around at code, then it really doesn't matter which text editor they use.
[13:54] <geirha> pulseezar: right, just select a mountpoint, edit fstab, remount
[13:54] <qwert666> have some one of you ati x1200 ?
[13:54] <Agion> are those free??
[13:54] <qwert666> or x1300
[13:55] <fde> jsoft: If you just want to play... sudo aptitude install anjuta
[13:55] <geirha> pulseezar: do you want it to be /home?
[13:55] <pulseezar> yeah probs
[13:55] <remoteCTR1> gaaaawd bzip2 not installed how embarrassing
[13:55] <xnv> jsoft: gedit will do things like syntax highlighting if you want something a little more advanced than nano
[13:55] <jsoft> fde: As already mentioned, it is not _me_ who will be using it.
[13:55] <fde> jsoft: If you're serious about programming, learn vim
[13:55] <pulseezar> whats the command to mount/unmount again?
[13:56] <jsoft> fde: I already use vim.
[13:56] <geirha> pulseezar: ok, then we first have to copy the home directories to your empty partition
[13:56] <fde> jsoft: ok, well forward those two statements to your friend.
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> hey all does anyone play frets of fire???
[13:56] <s33nagai2> mount it mount and umount is unmount (i think)
[13:56] <Kira> aww
[13:56] <Kira> Tomcat 6 is not in the repositories.
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> s33nagai2: umount is unmount, only root can do it too
[13:56] <pulseezar> i see
[13:56] <geirha> pulseezar: where is it mounted now? "df -h" should tell you real quick
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> Kira: try tomc(press tab)
[13:56] <Exuro> still no use :(
[13:56] <pulseezar> its mounted at /users/local
[13:57] <fde> Exuro: does iwconfig return anything other than no wireless extensions?
[13:57] <pulseezar> can i just created a folder inside home called storage or something and set it to mount there?
[13:57] <Exuro> nope
[13:57] <pulseezar> perhaps easier?
[13:57] <Exuro> I just checked
[13:57] <Kira> ActionParsnip: I did an "aptitude search tomcat".
[13:57] <pogay> hello! What could be the problem, when *printing* works (out of OpenOffice, Testprint) but form *Abiword*, the print stayes in the queue, with the message.  on localhost631 print job "stopped at no value".
[13:57] <fde> Exuro: I hate your computer  :P
[13:57] <Exuro> me too!
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> Kira: hmm
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> !tomcat
[13:57] <haelen> Hi. Have a "curious" audio problem here.
[13:57] <Exuro> I think I must've messed something up really random
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> !info tomcat
[13:58] <Exuro> it's probably better if I just re-install ubuntu
[13:58] <fde> Exuro: Those are really your only two options though... besides getting a new wireless card, I have no idea where to go from there.
[13:58] <Exuro> because it worked originally
[13:58] <geirha> pulseezar: easier yes, but mounting it as /home is more practical
[13:58] <Kira> !info tomcat6.6
[13:58] <Kira> !info tomcat6.0
[13:58] <jsoft> Ok thanks.
[13:58] <haelen> For some reason I can no longer control volume with Laptop multimedia control. (Volume)
[13:58] <haelen> It has no effect at all.
[13:58] <fde> Exuro: If that gets it to work, message me so I can arrange deaths  :)
[13:58] <Kira> ooooo
[13:58] <Kira> Glassfish is in the repositories. :D
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Kira: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=226828
[13:58] <ogzy> i am looking for something like kde-guidance-power-manager to enable some power profiles for perfomrnace power saving and presentatinon
[13:58] <pulseezar> ﻿geirha: but then everything in the home folder would be on the second hdd?
[13:58] <Exuro> how do I back up my Thunderbird settings?
[13:58] <ogzy> anything for gnome?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Kira: i just googled that. have you seen that?
[13:58] <fde> !info tomcat intrepid
[13:59] <geirha> pulseezar: yes
[13:59] <Exuro> I just want to back up my junkmail filter really...
[13:59] <Pici> !info tomcat5.5
[13:59] <Exuro> I filtered like 500 emails today, so I don't want to loose all that data!
[13:59] <Kira> yep, tomcat 5.5 only
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Exuro: what email app do you use?
[13:59] <pulseezar> i see
[13:59] <fde> conduit
[13:59] <Exuro> Thunderbird
[13:59] <fde> not conduit
[13:59] <Exuro> no
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> Exuro: then backup ~/.mozilla-thunderbird surely (?)
[14:00] <pulseezar> i think i'm just gonna make a folder in home and set it mount there
[14:00] <fde> Exuro: If you used Evolution, Conduit woulda made it REALLY easy to back that stuff up
[14:00] <pulseezar> it's just gonna get filled with music from my desktop anyway
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> Kira: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/installing-tomcat-6-on-ubuntu/
[14:00] <lch> hello, can I perform a custom installation without X with the standard 8.04 desktop installation CD?
[14:01] <s33nagai2> pulseezar: Am am pretty sure You could manually add it to the places menu too!
[14:01] <dik> hi anyone know how to get xgl working for ati hd2900xt 512mb as i got compiz running but when i go to terminal and type xglinfo it says no xgl present
[14:01] <guido> Hi guys, do you know how to restart nfs and xinetd services on ubuntu ?
[14:01] <fde> Exuro: Also, think about using Gmail... it'll import all pop accounts, and throw it through its own spam and custom filters
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> lch: just install it then apt-get remove it
[14:01] <lch> I don't have the space to install it
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> lch: or download the alternative cd
[14:01] <geirha> pulseezar: ok, then just "sudo mkdir /home/storage", update /etc/fstab, and then "sudo umount /users/local ; sudo mount /home/storage"
[14:01] <Exuro> oh
[14:01] <Exuro> I use gmail too
[14:01] <RainyLithuanian> where can i get libtiff.s0.3?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Kira: have you seen that link I sent you
[14:01] <Kira> ActionParsnip: I was just being lazy. Of course I know it's possible to roll my own Tomcat 6 on Ubuntu.
[14:01] <xnv> guido: sudo /etc/init.d/nfs restart ?
[14:01] <fde> Exuro: Can then use IMAP, and keep everything forever in an organized way
[14:01] <geirha> pulseezar: btw, /media/storage is probably a better place to put it
[14:01] <xnv> guido: Likewise for xinetd?
[14:01] <Exuro> I use IMAP with Thunderbird
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Kira: I dont use it, Im just websearching
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Exuro: then it sould be in there too
[14:02] <fde> Exuro: Using Gmail for everything?
[14:02] <Exuro> no
[14:02] <Exuro> I have like 6 email addresses
[14:02] <voicegrrrl> Looking for instructions on how to uninstall 2.6.24-20
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Exuro: id find out how thunderbird manages stuff so you can archive properly
[14:02] <s33nagai2> pulseezar: When Your done you can add a link to it in the Applications or System Menu.
[14:02] <Exuro> are Conduit and Evolution that much better?
[14:03] <Exuro> should I just switch over?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> voicegrrrl: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:03] <pogay> lch:  may be it's not possible, I lately used the minimal-CD's and there you can choose some not to install the desktop
[14:03] <fde> Exuro: Start throwing everything you can through gmail so you don't have to worry about it... settings > accounts "Get mail from other accounts" ... has to support POP though... then Gmail itself does IMAP
[14:03] <Exuro> I'm just using IMAP, so I won't loose any emails or anything
[14:04] <voicegrrrl> action-- that will uninstall it?
[14:04] <Exuro> mkay
[14:04] <Exuro> I guess I'll just do tha
[14:04] <Exuro> t
[14:04] <guido> xnv ok, don't have nor nfs neither xinetd in my init.d directory... How to "install" them ?
[14:04] <fde> Exuro: Conduit is a tool for easy backup of desktop stuff... far more too... apt-cache show conduit ... it just doesn't support thunderbird afaik
[14:04] <xnv> guido: Synaptic
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> voicegrrrl: uninstall? I'd gksu adept_installer
[14:04] <Exuro> oh
[14:05] <hotspot> hello
[14:05] <voicegrrrl> action--thanks i will try it!
[14:05] <xnv> guido: And it might be nfs-common in your /etc/inid.d/ directory. In general, that directory is where you will start/stop/restart most daemons.
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> !hi | hotspot
[14:06] <dik> anyone know much about ati hd cards and xgl in ubuntu
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> !ati | dik
[14:06] <kou> stupid pc...
[14:06] <kou> lol
[14:06] <dik> ok thanx :)
[14:07] <s33nagai2> I am upgrading to 8.04 right now! yay!
[14:07] <cdj26> you havent upgraded yet!?!
[14:08] <cdj26> does anybody know how to change the location of the documents folder and such
[14:08] <fde> cdj26: to be fair, it wasn't exactly a smooth ride for most initially... at least judging by this channel and the mailing lists
[14:08] <guido> xnv How can I check if the services are present in my system ?
[14:08] <dynoll3> hi! soneone wanna help me to install emerald??
[14:08] <s33nagai2> cdj26: I had just installed 7.04 because that was that only disc on hand... so 2 nights ago I upgraded to 7.10 so I could (today) upgrade to 8.04
[14:08] <ikonia> dynoll3: install the emerald package - it's that simple
[14:08] <cyphase> has anyone else experienced xorg crashes when switching users, ormaybe while another user is being used
[14:08] <cdj26> so that when i click it on the side of nautilus it opens a folder of my choosing, same w and open locationsith default save
[14:09] <Balian> who help my with fons?
[14:09] <dynoll3> ya but when i write : compiz --replace -c emerald &  it didnt work
[14:09] <fde> dynoll3: aptitude install emerald
[14:09] <cyphase> e.g. my accoutn is logged on, someone else logs on to their account, and when i want to go back to my account, it's gone
[14:09] <guido> Balian "fons" or "fonts" ?
[14:09] <fde> dynoll3: sudo that*
[14:09] <dynoll3> fde ok
[14:09] <s33nagai2> be back in an hour!
[14:09] <pulseezar> it says i don't have permission to save fstab!
[14:09] <SeveredCross> pulseezar: Ddi you forget sudo?
[14:09] <fde> dynoll3: actually, you probably want to 'sudo aptitude install emerald-themes'
[14:10] <penguen> no need to sudo for that
[14:10] <kushalsejwal> Greetings to everybody. I have a list scanned from a book and its a .jpg image , is there any way I can convert into a .pdf file (like the way ebooks are make)???
[14:10] <Aprilia> Hi
[14:10] <pulseezar> i didn't open it from the terminal, how do I do that?
[14:10] <geirha> pulseezar: save it to /tmp/something then "sudo cp /tmp/something /etc/fstab"
[14:10] <dik> not too sure how to install those drivers to be honest is there a manual on how to
[14:10] <fde> penguen: no need to sudo for what?
[14:10] <Aprilia> I need help for linux ubuntu
[14:10] <cdj26_> that is what this is fo aprilia
[14:10] <fde> !helpme
[14:10] <geirha> pulseezar: "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" is a typical way to edit it
[14:10] <Aprilia> I need messenger
[14:10] <xnv> guido: Synaptic will usually tell you what packages you have installed. If you want to look at services, you may have to install something like rcconf
[14:10] <maney> New Hardy install, and the keyboard setup is hosed.  many punctuation keys act as accent-combining instead of typing the letter.  wtf?  I can´t find anything to change this...
[14:11] <penguen> fde, for compiz --replace
[14:11] <pulseezar> oh yeah i remember
[14:11] <Aprilia> But i didint found aMSN
[14:11] <RainyLithuanian> can someone email me his /usr/lib/libtiff.so.X from i386 platform???
[14:11] <pulseezar> thought it was sudo gedit thats why!
[14:11] <RainyLithuanian> X - any argument
[14:11] <ikonia> RainyLithuanian: why ?
[14:11] <RainyLithuanian> I have 64th version
[14:11] <ikonia> RainyLithuanian: why do you need that ?
[14:11] <Aprilia> where i can donwload aMSN
[14:11] <ikonia> RainyLithuanian: so why do you want the 32bit version ?
[14:11] <fde> penguen: eh, he wanted emerald... its his choice... it just means he doesn't wanna use metacity decorations
[14:11] <citizen42alpha> sudo apt-get install amsn
[14:11] <RainyLithuanian> and I try to make my drivers for printer work
[14:11] <ikonia> RainyLithuanian: you can't do that
[14:11] <kushalsejwal> Guys, can anyone help me in making a pdf file from a scanned page of a book??
[14:11] <RainyLithuanian> they require 32 libraries
[14:11] <ikonia> RainyLithuanian: you can't just drop 32bit libraries in
[14:12] <ikonia> RainyLithuanian: ubuntu is not multi-lib
[14:12] <RainyLithuanian> ikonia,  I have no such file in lib32
[14:12] <cdj26_> hey, does anybody know how to make programs open in certain workspaces?
[14:12] <ikonia> RainyLithuanian: ubuntu is not multi-lib
[14:12] <fde> ikonia: actually you can... that's perfectly fine... it's just apt/dpkg won't do it for you
[14:12] <ikonia> RainyLithuanian: you can't use 32bit drivers, and you can't just drop 32bit libs in
[14:12] <Balian> guido: I need font for ubuntu 8.04
[14:12] <ikonia> fde no you can't
[14:12] <kou> !nvidia
[14:13] <s33nagai2> Does anyone know how to install Compiz-Fusion?
[14:13] <RainyLithuanian> ikonia, but severl guys in forums had done it
[14:13] <RainyLithuanian> and it works fine
[14:13] <ikonia> RainyLithuanian: show me the link
[14:13] <maek> s33nagai2, you dont need to install it .. its already installed
[14:13] <Agion> how can I configure virtualbox?
[14:13] <RainyLithuanian> http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?s=103ea6dee05c1a884305117a9bad8e95&t=593414
[14:13] <fde> ikonia: you can't use 32bit drivers... but libs are perfectly ok... look in amd64 for 'ia32-sun-java6-bin' as an example
[14:13] <s33nagai2> in 7.10?
[14:13] <dik> will tht sort out my xgl problems as i want to play games like quake 4 and others but it seems a little bit flickery is that why
[14:13] <guido> Balian you can install regular truetype fonts on ubuntu, if you want. You can easily find tons of them on the internet...
[14:13] <s33nagai2> maek: in 7.10
[14:14] <pulseezar> ﻿geirha: that worked fine, but should I copy everything that is now at /media/storage back to /usr/local?
[14:14] <fde> ikonia: that is also why 64bit has /lib and /lib64 ... and /usr/lib and /usr/lib64
[14:14] <Terabyte> Hey, I want to install netgear rangemax wireless card. What should I do?
[14:14] <ikonia> fde: 32bit libs on the 64bit platform are in /lib32
[14:14] <Terabyte> (with regard to driver install)
[14:14] <dynoll3> fde... can u paste me the paste bin?
[14:15] <fde> ikonia: I'm pretty sure you're wrong, but I'm not at a 64bit machine, so I will digress and state that that still disagrees with your argument.
[14:15] <Balian> i do update 6.12 to 8.04 and can't do eny thing bisouse a don't hawe letter
[14:15] <maek> s33nagai2, right click the desktop then select "change desktop background" then click "Visual Effects" Then click either normal or extra
[14:15] <ikonia> fde: I'm on a 64bit system now - the 32bit libs are in /lib32
[14:15] <fde> ikonia: you'd of course need to use ld to update things... but it's fine to do...
[14:15] <s33nagai2> maek: k.
[14:15] <RainyLithuanian> youp
[14:15] <RainyLithuanian> in lib32
[14:15] <ikonia> fde: drwxr-xr-x   4 root root  4096 2008-05-18 08:37 lib32
[14:15] <ikonia> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root     4 2008-04-29 15:29 lib64 -> /lib
[14:16] <RainyLithuanian> though I am missing that lib
[14:16] <RainyLithuanian> and I need one
[14:16] <Balian> guido: i do update 6.12 to 8.04 and can't do eny thing bisouse a don't hawe letter
[14:16]  * fde usually sticks to lib32 and lib64 and never checked the symlink... apologizes
[14:17] <ikonia> fde: thats a multi-lib system, your correct, as I said, ubuntu is not multi-lib
[14:17] <s33nagai2> maek: It says; 'desktop Effects could not be enabled"
[14:17] <thread> who can tell me how to boot the hardy cd into single user mode?
[14:17] <pulseezar> ﻿﻿geirha: that worked fine, but should I copy everything that is now at /media/storage back to /usr/local?
[14:17] <darwin_> hello, would my system breake if I comment  the line "exec /sbin/getty 38400 tty5" in /etc/event.d/tty3 to tty6
[14:17] <ikonia> thread add the line "single" to the boot options
[14:17] <maek> s33nagai2, then you either have a blacklisted video card or you haven't installed your video drivers
[14:17] <||arifaX> can I cleanup logs of a new system by deleting *.gz in /var/log and then doing a cat /dev/null to all open log-files before shutdown??
[14:17] <guido> Balian if is not a standard font normally present, you have to get the file and install it on your system....
[14:18] <thread> ikonia: word, you mean? after the -- ?
[14:18] <RainyLithuanian> ikonia,  shall you send me the lib? I may tell I need it to totally crash my 64-bit system
[14:18] <fde> ikonia: dpkg and apt don't have support for it, but the support is there in the packages etc... http://wiki.debian.org/multiarch unless they removed work done towards this page?
[14:18] <RainyLithuanian> is it ok?
[14:18] <Terabyte> d
[14:18] <cdj26_> s33nagai2: i believe you have to install compiz: sudo aptitude install compiz compiz-manager
[14:18] <mcquaid> is there a reason cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature doesn't work? it always reports 40 regardless
[14:18] <ikonia> fde: try it, the applications won't work (he's using an external package) it wants the lib in /lib
[14:18] <guido> Balian, however if it was a very standard font present in the early version, it seems a little bit strange that is not present in the updated version...
[14:18] <ikonia> fde: he's not using an ubuntu package hence why it won't understand the layout
[14:19] <ikonia> fde: I agree with what your saying but ubuntu is not multi-lib and he's using external packages
[14:19] <s33nagai2> maek: How can I find out what card I have? All I know is I have an Intel card. cdj26_:No, I am in the CompizConfig rightnow.
[14:19] <Balian> guido: where i find liles with normal font
[14:19] <cdj26_> sorry then
[14:19] <cdj26_> s33nagia2: go to system > admin > hardware drivers
[14:20] <fde> ikonia: it's more that the external packager is ignorant than it is debian/ubuntu's fault... it should look for /lib32 in the preinst scripts or something
[14:20] <ndf> hi guys. i went into system>administration>services and activated 'alsa-utils' to see what it did. since then i've had no sound. i stopped the service and still haven't got sound back. what has it done?
[14:20] <maek> dont have any experience with Intel cards sorry s33nagai2
[14:20] <ikonia> fde: exactly
[14:20] <RainyLithuanian> ikonia, it understands the layout
[14:20] <ndf> i didn't even find out what it did in the end anyway
[14:20] <RainyLithuanian> it looks in 32
[14:20] <ikonia> fde: but it's a generic package, not meant for ubuntu, so why should the packager follow ubuntu's rules
[14:20] <ikonia> fde: but I do  agree
[14:20] <guido> Balian what's the exact name of the font ?
[14:20] <j400> do u hAVE TO  blacklist your wireless card to get the adapter to work?
[14:21] <darwin_> hello, would my system breake if I comment  the line "exec /sbin/getty 38400 tty5" in /etc/event.d/tty3 to tty6 can anyone help me?
[14:21] <thread> why is it that every time i burn a hardy cd, it doesn't boot?? ... a friend was telling me he had the same experience!
[14:21] <cdj26_> s33nagai2: there might be a 3rd party driver that you have to enable, i did and that is where it was
[14:21] <fde> RainyLithuanian: what are you trying to install?
[14:21] <ikonia> darwin_: why do you want to do that ?
[14:21] <s33nagai2> cdj26_: not there!? is that because I'm running 7.10? I do see Admin > prefs > Hardware info.
[14:21] <RainyLithuanian> fde,  drivers for canon ip1500
[14:21] <ikonia> darwin_: that would certainly cause you problems
[14:21] <cdj26_> s33nagai2: hmm
[14:21] <Balian> Guido I don't know.. I don't hawe eny font
[14:21] <will00> what would be the easiest way to get a program that needs the root password to start without the root password?
[14:21] <swmiller6> thread: try a slower burn speed
[14:21] <darwin_> on debian that's not a problem
[14:21] <ikonia> will00: what program
[14:21] <midward> help, i lost my right leg, someone to help me to find it, my configuration is biomachine v1.2
[14:21] <ikonia> darwin_: then do it on ubuntu
[14:21] <fde> ikonia: sorry for causing a mini scene... just a mis-conception that has bugged me for a while
[14:22] <will00> ikonia: gproftpd
[14:22] <fde> RainyLithuanian: tried plugging it in?
[14:22] <alraune> is there a page where available soundrivers are listed ?
[14:22] <ikonia> midward: stop messing around
[14:22] <ndf> anyone?
[14:22] <RainyLithuanian> fde, sure?
[14:22] <ikonia> fde: not a problem, I understand, rest assured I'm not making a "rash" comment
[14:22] <darwin_> thanks ikonia
[14:22] <thread> swmiller6: ah yea we both had that thought... i don't think anyone's tried it yet tho :) thx for reminding me
[14:22] <fde> RainyLithuanian: Most digital cameras are supported by default... nothing pops up?
[14:22] <Terabyte> Hey, I'm trying to get my wireless card setup, it claims to be connected, but when I go to use firefox, i can't get online
[14:22] <ikonia> will00: that shouldn't need a root password
[14:22] <rw> I'm having trouble playing a dvd, I get a DVDSetDVDRoot:: Root not set error
[14:22] <RainyLithuanian> fde,  it's printer
[14:22] <guido> Balian surely you have many fonts in your distribution, you can see them by launching a software like Open Office word processor...
[14:22] <fde> RainyLithuanian: ahhhh
[14:22] <rw> all codecs are installe
[14:22] <RainyLithuanian> and something pops up
[14:22] <rw> dd
[14:23] <alraune> rw: use vlc player ?
[14:23] <s33nagai2> cdj26_: Restricted Drivers Manager?
[14:23] <RainyLithuanian> and nothing wont work anyway
[14:23] <guido> Balian What happens if you launch an advanced text editor ?
[14:23] <rw> vlc won't play it either
[14:23] <RainyLithuanian> nothing will work anyway
[14:23] <RainyLithuanian> I mean
[14:23] <cdj26_> yeah try that
[14:23] <will00> ikonia, it does, apt-get auto puts that under system-> administration. and i cant launch it from the command line as a regular user
[14:23] <rw> It used to work in gnome, I switched to fluxbox and now get this error
[14:23] <joe_chat> any ideas on playing itunes files in ubuntu
[14:23] <s33nagai2> cdj26_: ok...
[14:23] <RainyLithuanian> I have managed to install the drivers on two i386
[14:23] <ikonia> will00: so use sudo, or gksudo
[14:23] <RainyLithuanian> ubuntu and xubuntu
[14:23] <darwin_> ikonia I want to do that to free some memory
[14:23] <RainyLithuanian> though, with 64-bit I have plenty of problems
[14:23] <ikonia> darwin_: ok, do it then, I wouldn't be sure do it
[14:24] <ndf> =( hate the rules of this chan. i can't repeat myself, i get warned. i can't start shouting, i get banned. so what do i do if i've been ignored?
[14:24] <j400> how do u get a wireless usb to work on ubuntu8.10
[14:24] <cdj26_> s33nagai2: what shows up, im not familia with 710
[14:24] <s33nagai2> cdj26_: It says "Your hardware does not need any Restricted Drivers.
[14:24] <RainyLithuanian> I have tried symlinking the libs from 64 to 32
[14:24] <RainyLithuanian> but on the 3rd lib (which I requested) some arguments were not ok
[14:24] <RainyLithuanian> I doubt it was the wrong version
[14:24] <s33nagai2> cdj26_: Well I'm upgrading to 8.04 as we speak.
[14:24] <cdj26_> s33nagai2: what make is your card?
[14:24] <ndf> ... oh cmon you're not all still going to ignore me after that too are you?
[14:24] <joe_chat> ndf: what question
[14:25] <will00> ikonia, it still requires the password
[14:25] <ndf> i went into system>administration>services and activated 'alsa-utils' to see what it did. since then i've had no sound. i stopped the service and still haven't got sound back. what has it done?
[14:25] <ikonia> will00: what command are you using ?
[14:25] <Terabyte> ndf, perhaps you'd have better luck on the forums?
[14:25] <will00> sudo gproftpd
[14:25] <RainyLithuanian> bjfilterpixmaip1500: error while loading shared libraries: libtiff.so.3: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[14:25] <ndf> i didn't even find out what it did in the end anyway
[14:25] <Balian> i can't open eny think bicouse i dont hawe font only icons. In System font not exist
[14:25] <ikonia> will00: and it asks you for your "user" password
[14:25] <rw> When trying to open the dvd with vlc --> dvdread error: DVDRead cannot open source: /dev/scd0
[14:25] <rw> main error: no suitable access module for `dvd:///dev/scd0'
[14:25] <will00> ikonia, yea thats about the extent of it
[14:25] <Balian> Guido  i can't open eny think bicouse i dont hawe font only icons. In System font not exist
[14:25] <s33nagai2> cdj26_: I don't know... I have a Dell Inspiron 530.. I still a piece of paper with all the specs... one second....
[14:25] <fde> RainyLithuanian: It's in the Gutenprint package according to http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-iP1500
[14:25] <ikonia> will00: so put your user password in
[14:26] <fde> RainyLithuanian: Which is installed by default... so just try to set it up.
[14:26] <jimcooncat> In my Screen Resolution Preferences, I have an option "Make default for this computer (mickey) only". What's that mean?
[14:26] <will00> ikonia, yes and that launches it, but i want it to launch automatically without the need for any password
[14:26] <ndf> joe_chat: any ideas?
[14:26] <ikonia> will00: then use the init script, there should be an init script in /etc/init.d
[14:26] <alraune> is there a page where available soundrivers are listed ?
[14:27] <s33nagai2> cdj26_: It just says "Intel Integrated Graphics". I'll check Hardware Information in Ubuntu.
[14:27] <guido> Balian, don't see any written word on your desktop, just icons and images ?
[14:27] <j400> can someone help me with wireless?
[14:27] <ikonia> s33nagai2: just use the intel xorg driver
[14:27] <joe_chat> try ndf: try alsamixer in command window
[14:27] <will00> ikonia, no there isnt, not for gproftpd
[14:27] <joe_chat> ndf: try alsamixer in command window
[14:27] <ikonia> will00: ok, right one
[14:27] <ikonia> write
[14:27] <ndf> joe_chat: i dont want to see volumes, it's broken.
[14:27] <rw> never mind, opening with /media/cdrom0 did the trick
[14:27] <fde> RainyLithuanian: actually, it's part of the openprinting.org package now... but it's there I'd bet
[14:27] <s33nagai2> ikonia: how?
[14:27] <joe_chat> will it load is it muted
[14:28] <ndf> looking at the volumes isn't going to help
[14:28] <s33nagai2> ikonia: do I enable it
[14:28] <Gary> .13
[14:28] <fde> RainyLithuanian: This isn't Windows, you don't have to spend a week installing drivers
[14:28] <ndf> yes alsamixer works, no it's not muted
[14:28] <joe_chat> ndf: will it load is it muted
[14:28] <will00> ikonia, how exactly would i go about doing that?
[14:28] <geirha> pulseezar: wasn't it empty?
[14:28] <cdj26_> s33nagai2: how long until you are upgraded
[14:28] <ndf> yes alsamixer works, no it's not muted
[14:28] <ikonia> s33nagai2: make sure you have the line Driver "intel" in your xorg.conf in the device video section
[14:28] <ikonia> will00: use one of the templates in /etc/init.d
[14:28] <s33nagai2> oh.... 54 minutes...
[14:28] <RainyLithuanian> fde, doesn't work
[14:28] <RainyLithuanian> really
[14:28] <Balian> Guido look this http://img.wklej.org/images/573200959zrzutekranu.png
[14:29] <RainyLithuanian> I spent a couple of hours installing my 9800GTX drivers:))
[14:29] <fde> RainyLithuanian: What have you tried?
[14:29] <joe_chat> ndf: what sound card
[14:29] <ndf> i said allready, it's not a simple problem like 'oh i forgot to unmute it'. it's something to do with that alsa-utils
[14:29] <s33nagai2> ikonia: Where is xorg.conf? last time I worked with that was in 1999!
[14:29] <RainyLithuanian> fde,  like manually selecting to use drivers for canon ip1500
[14:29] <RainyLithuanian> nothing works anyway
[14:29] <ikonia> s33nagai2: /etc/X11
[14:30] <Balian> Guido i hawe two computer and one work normal
[14:30] <ndf> Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[14:30] <fde> RainyLithuanian: Do you have any other printers? I recommend an HP printer, they actually put money behind such things
[14:30] <s33nagai2> ikonia: finding the line...
[14:30] <RainyLithuanian> nope:)))
[14:31] <joe_chat> ndf: i've never had a problem with alsa on any sound card
[14:31] <RainyLithuanian> I had one, but it seems they dont put money behind any other things:))
[14:31] <guido> Balian aw ! I'm not able to help you with this ! Ask to other users, make them see the image... You'll surely find someone more expert than me ! :D
[14:31] <ndf> neither have i
[14:31] <kaushal> hi
[14:31] <kaushal> I have packages in CD
[14:31] <ndf> it worked before
[14:31] <lupe> is hard to install wireless with ubuntu?
[14:31] <ndf> like i said, it was since i started that 'alsa-utils' service
[14:31] <kaushal> how can i install it automatically
[14:31] <joe_chat> ndf: what did u do
[14:31] <s33nagai2> ikonia: oh crapp...
[14:31] <ndf> are you Even READING what i'm saying?!
[14:31] <fde> lupe: depends very much on the card you have
[14:31] <RainyLithuanian> fde,  what's wrong with getting an i386 lib when I dont have one in the directory?
[14:31] <Terabyte> lupe, clearly, since everyone is keeping quiet about it ^_^
[14:32] <kaushal> all the packages are in /mnt/cdrom/pool/main
[14:32] <s33nagai2> ikonia: forgot to telll you one thing... I'm in VMware...
[14:32] <fde> RainyLithuanian: you aren't using i386
[14:32] <Balian> who help my with font?
[14:32] <kaushal> how can i install it automatically
[14:32] <ikonia> s33nagai2: then you can't use hardware acceleration
[14:32] <ryanakca> Why is it that when I log out of a vt, it doesn't go back to a login prompt? How can I make the 4 that are blank screens go back to one?
[14:32] <RainyLithuanian> fde,  yes, but aint packages in lib32 designed for i386?
[14:32] <s33nagai2>  ikonia: Yea... sorry bout that !
[14:33] <kriel> Okay. In my travels, I accidentally borked up my perl. My brilliant solution was 'apt*get remove perl && apt*get install perl' (censored for noob protection.) This in turn uninstalled about half my software. Is there anyway to tell it to reinstall the default packages, without, well. Doing a reinstall?
[14:33] <Balian> I need Help with font!
[14:34] <ndf> ...
[14:34] <fde> RainyLithuanian: sure... if you're compiling, you can define the /lib32 dir ... good luck tracking down everything though... just reinstall with the x86 version if I was you... this isn't the first headache you'll have.
[14:34] <ndf> gosh.
[14:34] <joe_chat> ndf: output of lspci
[14:34] <will00> ikonia, so everything in the etc/init.d folder is run with superuser privelages?
[14:34] <pierino> hallo
[14:34] <jimcooncat> kriel: maybe install ubuntu-desktop
[14:34] <pierino> sorry my english
[14:34] <ikonia> will00: correct
[14:34] <fde> s/first/last/
[14:34] <geirha> ryanakca: I don't understand your question
[14:34] <ndf> joe_chat: if you keep asking me what i've allready told you, we're just going to go round in circles.
[14:34] <will00> ikonia, ok
[14:34] <pierino> help for adress chan ubuntu italia
[14:34] <Pici> !it | pierino
[14:34] <ikonia> !it | pierino
[14:34] <kriel> jimcooncat: Forgot to mention, it's server edition. Is that package called ubuntu-server?
[14:34] <will00> ikonia, just one more thing, where are the templates?
[14:35] <pierino> grazie ciao
[14:35] <jimcooncat> kriel: yes, if my memory serves me
[14:35] <Balian> Who can help me witch font?
[14:35] <Terabyte> Hey, I have a wireless connection and a wired connection. Both claim they are connected. if i pull the wired connection, i can no longer get online with firefox. Any help?
[14:35] <kriel> jimcooncat: nope. It's not.
[14:35] <geirha> ryanakca: you want the screen to be cleared when you log out?
[14:35] <fde> Balian: That is a personal preference
[14:35] <jimcooncat> kriel: you could also try ubuntu-minimal first to see if that gets you what's missing
[14:36] <ikonia> will00: use one of the other scripts
[14:36] <Pici> !fonts > Balian
[14:36] <will00> ikonia, ok
[14:36] <ryanakca> geirha: it's cleared, but I don't get a login prompt... it just stays blank
[14:36] <joe_chat> nff> i was not here when us asked this might be why nobody is talking to u u start from teh begining and go step by step if it worked and now it doesn't u mised a step
[14:36] <joe_chat> ndf: i was not here when us asked this might be why nobody is talking to u u start from teh begining and go step by step if it worked and now it doesn't u mised a step
[14:36] <ndf> what?
[14:36] <joe_chat> ndf: bye
[14:36] <ndf> that makes no sense
[14:36] <ndf> lol wtf
[14:37] <ndf> can someone else help me? that guy was an ass.
[14:37] <Balian> no I don't hawe fonts in all systm
[14:37] <ryanakca> geirha: what I'm asking is how do I get my login prompts back :)
[14:37] <fde> ndf: What is the issue, what have you done so far... are there any errors in the steps you've attempted?
[14:37] <ikonia> ndf: no need for that laguage or attitude, if you do't wat to help, politly walk away
[14:38] <Terabyte> ndf: he said that he wasn't here when you asked the question, and that's proabbly why nobody else is able to help you. start again from the beginning and if it doesn't work, you've missed a step
[14:38] <KnomeDE> how do i reinstall the grub bootloader form a live cd?
[14:38] <Pici> Balian: No fonts? You can't see any words then?
[14:38] <RainyLithuanian> fde this isn't my first headache I got
[14:38] <JennyG> Okay, I need some help with my wifi and/or whatever is involved in that. lol
[14:38] <RainyLithuanian> :/
[14:38] <ndf> Terabyte: he asked me the same 3 things over and over in a circle.
[14:38] <ikonia> !grub > KnomeDE
[14:38] <RainyLithuanian> that's why I dont want to reinstall
[14:38] <ndf> anyways
[14:38] <geirha> ryanakca: They should return back each time ... not sure why they won't at your system
[14:39] <Balian> i hawe two cmputers. One  work normal
[14:39] <ndf> fde: lastnight i started the service 'alsa-utils', since then i've had no sound. i've stopped the service and soud hasn't come back. what has it done?
[14:39] <KnomeDE> ikonia: that works
[14:39] <ikonia> KnomeDE: cool
[14:39] <kaushal> How can i install packages from CD
[14:39] <Balian> Pici  i hawe two cmputers. One  work normal
[14:39] <mgolisch> if its real package cd register the cd as a repository
[14:39] <kaushal> I have it in /mnt/cdrom/pool/main
[14:39] <DJones> !aptoncd | kaushal
[14:40] <mgolisch> if not install the packages manualy using dpkg
[14:40] <fde> ndf: what have _you_ done... have you looked in System > Preferences > Sounds ... can you get sound out of anything there? Tell me if you can
[14:40] <Pici> Balian: Did you make any changes that would haev caused this?
[14:40] <kaushal> DJones,i have server edition and dont have gui
[14:40] <ndf> no that's what i'm saying, i have no sound
[14:40] <fde> kaushal: aptitude install <adesktop> ?
[14:40] <ndf> =/
[14:40] <ryanakca> geirha: ok,thanks anyways
[14:41] <alraune> ndf: result from :   modprobe snd-  ?
[14:41] <ryanakca> When I log out of my VTs, the screen gets cleared, but I don't get a login screen. How do I fix this?
[14:41] <kaushal> fde, give me an example please
[14:41] <ndf> $ modprobe snd-
[14:41] <ndf> FATAL: Module snd_ not found.
[14:41] <kaushal> I have all the packages in /mnt/cdrom/pool/main
[14:41] <fde> kaushal: probably something like fluxbox so there is minimal overhead on the server
[14:41] <kriel> jimcooncat: i think i got it. ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard are both okay, and nothing has broken dependencies, so it looks like it's more-or-less back to normal.
[14:41] <kriel> jimcooncat: thank you.
[14:42] <fde> kaushal: of the boxes... openbox is all the rage these days actually.
[14:42] <jimcooncat> kriel: yw have a good one
[14:42] <Balian> Pici I do update 6.12 to 8.04 and you can see wat I hawe http://img.wklej.org/images/573200959zrzutekranu.png
[14:42] <alraune> ndf : modprobe snd
[14:42] <geirha> ryanakca: it should be controlled by /etc/event.d/tty*, or /etc/inittab if you have one. Have you edited any of those?
[14:42] <ndf> alraune: that didn't return anything this time
[14:43] <ryanakca> geirha: nope
[14:43] <fde> alraune: you seriously want him to modprobe every snd- module?
[14:43] <fde> Actually, it wouldn't work, cuz there is no * ... nm
[14:43] <alraune> fed: no, but make shure its loaded
[14:43] <geirha> ryanakca: pastebin the output of: cat /etc/inittab /etc/event.d/tty1
[14:43] <histo> Why the hell would linux-ubuntu-modules-whatver not be required by linux-kernel-whatever  ?
[14:43] <alraune> ndf: no sound yet ?
[14:43] <Evilbelgian> hi there, how big is the ubuntu ISO
[14:44] <histo> ndf: lsmod | grep snd
[14:44] <kou> Evilbelgian: dvd or cd?
[14:44] <Pici> Balian: Do your tty's work? ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[14:44] <DIFH-iceroot> Evilbelgian: look at ubuntu.org
[14:44] <Pici> Evilbelgian: ~700mb
[14:44] <alraune> ﻿Evilbelgian: depends, see ubuntu.com
[14:44] <DJones> Evilbelgian: about 700Mb, it fits on once cd
[14:44] <ndf> alraune: no, it hasn't magically come back by not fixing it
[14:44] <ndf> histo histo huge list
[14:44] <histo> ndf: try find /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic | grep snd
[14:44] <ndf> histo: what are you looking for in that list?
[14:44] <alraune> ndf:k, just an idea
[14:45] <fde> histo: you mean ubuntu-restricted-modules and linux-image ?
[14:45] <histo> fde:
[14:45] <p4_xxx> hi, i have a ubuntu server at home for file shares, im folowing a guide to set some rules with iptables, but im reading some setting for Network Manager in the same guide, can someone explain this because i dont understand this: this is what im reading: Configuration on startup
[14:45] <p4_xxx> WARNING: Iptables and NetworkManager seem to have a conflict. However NetworkManager is still in Beta. If you are concerned enough about security to isntall a firewall you might not want to trust NetworkManager to manage it yet. Also note NetworkManager and iptables have opposite aims. Iptables aims to keep any questionable network traffice out. NetworkManager aims to keep you connected at all times. Therefore if you want security all the time, run iptables at
[14:45] <p4_xxx> WARNING: If you use NetworkManager (installed by default on Feisty and later) these steps will leave you unable to use NetworkManager for the interfaces you modify. Please follow the steps in the next section instead.
[14:45] <histo> fde: no I mean linux-ubuntu-moduels-2.6.24-19-generic arent dependent on them.
[14:45] <Balian> Pici: I work all day but I don't konow wath i must do
[14:45] <will00> ikonia, ok, i wrote the script, do i have to do anything else to get it to work
[14:45] <histo> ndf: did what I tell you replay with anything.
[14:46] <ndf> histo: what!?
[14:46] <histo> ndf: You are having problems with sound right?
[14:46] <ndf> omg yes
[14:46] <kaushal> I am not getting help here
[14:46] <fde> histo: linux-ubuntu-modules does depend linux-image ... linux-image doesn't depend on linux-ubuntu-modules because it doesn't require a bunch of random modules to build
[14:46] <histo> ndf: try this in a terminal find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd
[14:47] <Pici> Balian: Do you see normal fonts if you do: ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[14:47] <Balian> No
[14:47] <ndf> histo: huge list, what are you looking for in there?
[14:47] <fde> s/build/run/
[14:47] <histo> fde: not the linux-image but it the -generic kernel that everyone has installed with ubuntu-desktop
[14:47] <histo> ndf: okay what about lsmod | grep snd
[14:47] <ndf> histo: you asked me that 2 mins ago, same reply
[14:47] <RainyLithuanian> can someone get me libtiff.so.3 for 32-bits?
[14:47] <ndf> huge list, what are you looking for?
[14:48] <Balian> sorry Pici I see normal font
[14:48] <histo> ndf: It shouldn't be a huge list from lsmod that should show you what modules are loaded.
[14:48] <JennyG> I need help getting wifi to work. I have no idea what to do, lol.
[14:48] <histo> ndf: try speakertest in a terminal and hit Ctrl + C to stop it.
[14:48] <fde> histo: linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-16-generic depends linux-image-2.6.24-16-generic ... why would the opposite be true?
[14:48] <ndf> well it is
[14:48] <rwycuff> JennyG,what wifi card
[14:48] <histo> fde: omg fde I give up your are right
[14:49] <histo> fde: don't be an ass
[14:49] <ndf> speakertest: command not found
[14:49] <histo> ndf: alsamixer and make sure your stuff isn't muted.
[14:49] <JennyG> rwycuff: Umm, Broadcom, bcm4318. That right?
[14:49] <Balian> do you hawe eny idea?
[14:49] <Balian> Pici
[14:49] <fde> histo: I'm not being an ass, it was just a strange statement... so I wished to explain it to you.
[14:49] <ndf> OMG that's the third time i've been asked that
[14:49] <ndf> i'm not stupid
[14:50] <ndf> like i said, it's a problem with alsa-utils service that i started
[14:50] <histo> fde: Its not that package I mentioned is not dependent on anything else I think thats jacked up.  You can then really bork your sound up by that package not being present.
[14:50] <Lunenfeld> hello, how can i start the speaker-applet in openbox which is started in the systray of gnome automatically?
[14:50] <Pici> Balian: Try doing: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[14:50] <rwycuff> JennyG,broadcom chips are not supported much in linux ... so you may have to get the inf file from windows driver and then run it through ndiswrapper
[14:50] <histo> ndf: okay well I didn't know that its a problem with alsa-utils
[14:51] <ndf> i told you that to start off with
[14:51] <fde> histo: You're really bad at explaining yourself  ;)   ALSA is built into the kernel... linux-sound-base is depended by ubuntu-standard I think
[14:51] <JennyG> rwycuff, so I've heard about broadcom :(
[14:51] <histo> fde: no maybe on linux-generic but not anythign else
[14:52] <ndf> screw this, nobody's understanding me anyway. i'm going.
[14:52] <kaushal> hi
[14:52] <haelen> Hi. I've just run alsamixer and discovered that, for some reason pulseaudio is now assigned as both card and chip.
[14:52] <haelen> I'm not sure how this happened. Can I change it?
[14:52] <rwycuff> JennyG,can you get the inf file from the windows driver
[14:52] <histo> fde: and i'm not talking about linux-sound-base
[14:53] <fde> histo: what are you talking about then?
[14:53] <JennyG> rwycuff, I shall try
[14:53] <JennyG> lol
[14:53] <rwycuff> JennyG,is windows still installed on this pc
[14:53] <histo> fde: linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-19-generic
[14:54] <fde> histo: ok... it depends the kernel the modules are built against?
[14:54] <pulseezar> if I share a folder over a netwrok from my vista desktop machine
[14:54] <pulseezar> oops
[14:54] <JennyG> rwycuff, well, let's see
[14:54] <fde> histo: Why would the actual kernel depend on a bunch of drivers that aren't part of it?
[14:54] <JennyG> rwycuff, I don't think so anymore, lmao
[14:54] <fde> histo: that's like gnome-desktop being dependent on a bunch of backgrounds...
[14:54] <pulseezar> if I share a folder over a network from my vista desktop should my ubuntu machine be able to access it?
[14:54] <rwycuff> JennyG,did not know if you was duel booting or what
[14:54] <histo> fde: I SAID SOMETHING SHOULD REQUIRE THAT PACKAGE TOOL
[14:54] <fde> histo: why?
[14:55] <histo> fde: SO THAT PEOPLES SOUND WORKS
[14:55] <JennyG> rwycuff, hmm
[14:55] <histo> without it you have no fn drivers
[14:55] <fde> histo: If I don't need anything in there... why should I be forced to keep it?
[14:55] <TiredWolf> !caps
[14:55] <Pici> histo: lose the caps;
[14:55] <ryanakca> geirha: http://paste.ubuntu.com/32608/
[14:55] <histo> k
[14:55] <geirha> pulseezar: yes, it should afaik
[14:56] <ryanakca> geirha: it runs getty at the end... dunno what's going on :/
[14:56] <ai3gtmc> ugh I cant gparted to work IM getting a GTK-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[14:56] <ai3gtmc> can anyone help? thx
[14:56] <pulseezar> ok thanks, now i just need to try and get it to work!
[14:56] <Balian> Pici I can't do eny thing bicouse in alt+Ctrl+f1 I see login incorect
[14:56] <geirha> ryanakca: that's identical to mine, so I don't see anything wrong :/
[14:57] <Pici> Balian: so you cannot login?
[14:57] <geirha> ryanakca: getty is the login-prompt btw
[14:57] <synn> ok so i have a dell latitude and my quote key only works when i press it twice and its not even the right quote its on us-intl 105key setting
[14:57] <spsneo> whats the difference between twin view and separate x screen in ubuntu ?
[14:57] <unop> ai3gtmc, how are you launching gparted there?
[14:57] <fde> histo: you understand that linux-ubuntu-modules are just out of tree drivers Ubuntu's kernel team has decided to maintain for the users convenience... in an ideal world, that package shouldn't even exist, let alone be a requirement.
[14:58] <fde> histo: something like 300 different sound cards are in the main kernel tree
[14:58] <nck> my laptop screen flicking when desktop effect is enable. how to solve it?
[14:59] <kaushal> Hi again
[14:59] <Balian> Pici i can work only terminal  ... No i cannot login.  In terminal I can use command sudo
[14:59] <ryanakca> geirha: I know :)
[14:59] <kaushal> I have installed Ubuntu 8.04 Server edition
[14:59] <Pici> Balian: then run this from the terminal: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[14:59] <erie69> Hey all, anybody run in to installing a new version of ubuntu i think 8 on a dell insperon 530?
[14:59] <kaushal> How can i install it all the packages from CD
[14:59] <Balian> ok
[14:59] <ATA_Dark_Shadow> greetings, what would be the mount command to mount /dev directly, without an init script?
[14:59] <MoTec> t33lno
[15:00] <histo> fde: I'm done talking about it. You don't understand what i'm saying and I don't have the patience to explain.
[15:00] <fde> kaushal: sudo aptitude install <whatever> ... the CD should be added already.
[15:00] <kaushal> I have all the packages under /mnt/cdrom/pool/main/
[15:00] <xnv> ATA_Dark_Shadow: You can mount /dev?
[15:00] <geirha> ryanakca: maybe have a look at /var/log/syslog, and see if there are any related error messages
[15:00] <fde> histo: I understand fully. I will agree to drop it though, sorry you got so worked up  :/
[15:00] <dynoll3> hey someone know where i can set the screensavers in compizfusion?
[15:00] <fde> kaushal: if it's not... try sudo apt-cdrom
[15:00] <ATA_Dark_Shadow> i need to basically, my udev isnt starting as /dev seems to has the wrong fs
[15:01] <fde> kaushal: (just that, with the CD in, and it'll add the source)
[15:01] <jb_in_nyc> hi gang; can anyone help me get wifi working on an old mac laptop that's booting from a xubuntu live cd? I can't figure out how to get it to recognize the wifi card; I don't even know where to start
[15:01] <fde> kaushal: uhh... or 'apt-cdrom add' rather
[15:02] <dynoll3> hey someone know where i can set the screensavers in compizfusion?
[15:02] <kaushal> ok
[15:02] <fde> dynoll3: Compiz Fusion isn't responsible for screensavers... look at System > Preferences > Screensaver
[15:02] <dynoll3> k
[15:03] <geirha> pulseezar: in my limited experience with samba, it works better to mount the share instead of using nautilus to browse it. Try something like this: "sudo mount -tcifs -ousername=$USER,workgroup=MS-HOME //windows-box/sharename /mnt"
[15:03] <ATA_Dark_Shadow> xnv what i need : the "usual" line udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) when i enter #mount, however it seems that it is not mounted because
[15:03] <ryanakca> geirha: hmm... only cron, postfix and dhcp running, from what I can see once I grep them out.
[15:03] <erie69> Has anybody had any luck getting ubuntu to run on a dell insperon 530? I can't even get a live version to boot.
[15:04] <pulseezar> geirha: for the tip
[15:05] <geirha> ryanakca: try starting getty manually (not sure if it works though): "sudo /sbin/getty 38400 tty1"
[15:05] <dynoll3> fde ya but i saw someone that had the cube of cpompiz for his screensaver
[15:05] <dynoll3> how i can get that
[15:07] <whitman> Could having linux installed on a computer screw with reinstalling Windows on it?  I've got a laptop that had Ubuntu 8.04 installed but now it has to be repurposed as a Windows laptop.  However Windows claims that the product key is invalid even though it's a massively used volume license key at a university.
[15:07] <jb_in_nyc> can anyone help me get wifi working on an old mac laptop that's booting from a xubuntu live cd? I can't figure out how to get it to recognize the wifi card; I don't even know where to start
[15:07] <geirha> dynoll3: They probably know that in #compiz-fusion
[15:07] <Pici> whitman: Nope, Linux wouldnt be able to affect that sort of thing.
[15:07] <ncorpse> hi all
[15:07] <Balian> Pici: i write this command but this don't help. Do you hawe new idea?
[15:07] <AlexMax> What is the maximum number of simultanious processes that Ubuntu 8.04 supports?  I checked google and according to an old  post back in 2001, the number of concurrent processes supported was 512 unless you made your own kernel and the max was 4096
[15:07] <ncorpse> anybody need support?
[15:08] <dynoll3> ncorpse if u know about compiz fusion, yes
[15:08] <Pici> Balian: You may have to restart gnome for the changes to go into effect.
[15:08] <rwycuff> dynoll2,wahts the issue with compiz
[15:09] <ncorpse> dynoll3, i used it in 7. do you got problems in hardy with ih?
[15:09] <SamRamji> Hello, I am Sam Ramji. I am the open source guru at Microsoft. Today, I'd like to use #ubuntu as a virtual focus group to forum Microsoft's intentions to base our future technologies on a distribution derived from Ubuntu.
[15:09] <dynoll3> i want to know how to set the screensavers (like all the windows fliying around)
[15:09] <geirha> dynoll3: I remember I got such a screensaver working in beryl, I had to compile a module for compiz to get it to work. Might be the same thing with compiz
[15:09] <Balian> I do this ctrl+alt+backspace and nathig
[15:09] <geirha> dynoll3: compile a module for _beryl_ to get it to work I mean
[15:09] <raw> hello
[15:09] <SamRamji> Is #ubuntu collectively in favor of a Microsoft sponsored Linux distribution?
[15:09] <dynoll3> ok how we do that
[15:09] <Balian> Pici I do this ctrl+alt+backspace and nathig
[15:09] <rwycuff> SamRamji, are you serious
[15:10] <DJones> !ot | SamRamji
[15:10] <Pici> Balian: I'm sorry then, I'm not sure what else to try?
[15:10] <raw> How can I re-arrange the screen which program do i want to start ? (windows or ubuntu)
[15:10] <SamRamji> ryanakca: Yes! I am Sam Ramji!
[15:10] <geirha> dynoll3: have you asked in #compiz-fusion ?
[15:10] <dynoll3> yes
[15:10] <raw> How can I re-arrange the screen which program do i want to start when my pc starts ? (windows or ubuntu)
[15:10] <dynoll3> they dont answer
[15:10] <Balian> ok
[15:10] <rwycuff> SamRamji,no one here will be interested in M$ on that level
[15:10] <geirha> dynoll3: well, I haven't done anything like that with compiz, so I can only direct you to google I'm afraid
[15:11] <dynoll3> ok
[15:11] <fde> !grub > raw See if this says anything about grubs default value:
[15:11] <raw> fde ? what do you mean ?
[15:11] <lordleemo> Balian: CTRL + ALT + F1  in that window type    rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity   press enter  now  CTRL + ALT + F7  and log back in
[15:12] <rwycuff> dynoll3, ithink the screen saver thihng is a plugin of some sort but i havnt seen any thing like that sence it was called beryl ... so may not be supported
[15:12] <raw> nothing came in private fde with ubottu.
[15:12] <mahidhar> i want 2 play 'cricket' game but i was in .exe formate ......what should i do now
[15:13] <ncorpse> mahidhar, install wine and try to emulate it
[15:13] <raw> fde, I want to start automatically when the time goes 9-8-7-6.. seconds to start Windows because at home their using Windows. "I" love ubuntu.
[15:14] <darkcrab> in ubuntu hardy 8.04 lts, is enlightended sound daemon disabled by default
[15:14] <raw> Grub is the solution ?
[15:14] <mahidhar> ncorpse, i installed wine but i m not able understand how 2 use
[15:14] <ncorpse> raw you need to adjust the bootmanager settings in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:14] <catfacts> hi, what is the synaptic equlivatn for KDE
[15:14] <th0r> raw, you need to change the default value in /etc/grub/menu.lst
[15:14] <Pici> catfacts: adept
[15:14] <synusoid> Hello, I am new to Gnome, is there the possibility of changing window settings like "don't display content while moving" or "don't animate while minimizing etc."? Thanks
[15:14] <SNuxoll> catfacts: adept
[15:14] <andrew___> raw: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:14] <raw> from windows to paste that in run ?
[15:14] <ncorpse> mahidhar, it's pretty easy to use, just go the directory and the run : sudo wine start cricket.exe
[15:14] <Yamaneko> is firefox 3.0 final in hardy?
[15:15] <raw> or via ubuntu terminal window ?
[15:15] <Pici> Yamaneko: yes.
[15:15] <Balian> lordleemo ctrl + alt + f7 don't do eny thing. Im reboot system and nathing.
[15:15] <catfacts> thanks
[15:15] <mahidhar> ncorpse, k tnks
[15:15] <th0r> Yamaneko, 3.0.1 was in a recent update
[15:15] <andrew___> raw: the Ubuntu Terminal
[15:15] <fde> raw: yes.. hence changing the default= value in /etc/grub/menu.lst ... I'm trying to free myself up right now so I can go, but I'm helping others atm
[15:15] <ncorpse> raw, how you work on menu.lst doesn't matter you can do with gedit or vim how you like
[15:15] <fde> /boot/grub/menu.lst sorry raw
[15:16] <fde> !grub
[15:16] <raw> ok guys I thank you all for your time.
[15:16] <ncorpse> mahidhar, your'e welcome, let me know if it works
[15:16] <fde> raw: look in GRUB howtos in what ubottu just said
[15:16] <raw> thanks very much! am new in ubuntu and i loved it.
[15:16] <raw> am watching it now fde. thanks bro
[15:16] <andrew___> !grub
[15:16] <mahidhar> ncorpse,  ya sure i m trying it
[15:16] <geirha> raw: you want to move the 5 lines corresponding to windows to just above the line starting with ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC ...
[15:17] <itai-michaelson> after the last update Gutsy suddenly asks me if i "really" want to delete files when i click delete, how do i stop that?
[15:17] <geirha> raw: that will make windows the first boot entry, and also the default
[15:17] <fde> geirha: he doesn't even have to do that actually... but that'd work of course.
[15:17] <raw> geirha, yes. I want it to be first option because am the only one at home who uses ubuntu.
[15:17] <geirha> fde: changing the default value breaks when a new kernel comes along, because then you need to shift it by 2
[15:18] <Yamaneko> Pici, th0r: How do I get it? i try via terminal, but it says that everything is updated *sorry for the crap english XD*
[15:18] <datacrusher> hi everyone
[15:18] <datacrusher> i just installed a brand new ubuntu server, on a vista machine
[15:18] <th0r> Yamaneko, use synaptic and it should download the latest
[15:18] <ncorpse> hi datacrusher
[15:18] <raw> datacrusher, same here. is awesome ;D
[15:18] <datacrusher> the installation gone just fine, now i must make it do the same the vista machine did
[15:19] <Yamaneko> hm, ok
[15:19] <datacrusher> i got 36 cpters
[15:19] <Balian> lordleemo do you hawe wath i can do? I do update 6.12 to 8.04 and i don't hawe font in all system. Help pease. I work with this all day and nathing
[15:19] <Juju> help plz. I have a problem, I just installed Fluxbuntu and I can't get on the internets using either ethernet or my wireless usb dealy. I'm using a netgear router and the usb dealy is also netgear
[15:19] <cyphase> tracker is so annoying on ubuntu
[15:19] <datacrusher> the vista machine was a file server (duh) and only 10 people could connect to it
[15:19] <Yamaneko> but have i input other repositories in sources.list?
[15:19] <datacrusher> couldt find a better way of replacing it by a ubuntu server
[15:19] <datacrusher> firs question
[15:20] <datacrusher> i must NOT install the x server? better to let it on the text mode?
[15:20] <Balian> lordleemo do you hawe idea wath i can do? I do update 6.12 to 8.04 and i don't hawe font in all system. Help pease. I work with this all day and nathing
[15:20] <datacrusher> second
[15:20] <amenado> Balian-> you can install it fresh rather than upgrade, somehow upgrading from that old to latest is full of challenges
[15:20] <datacrusher> i need it to make a backup from an especific folder, to dvdrw, everyday at 2300, and obviously, clean the disk first
[15:20] <itai-michaelson> datacrusher, 1st question -its up to you, text mode will save resources
[15:20] <amenado> datacrusher-> what kind of service are you serving again?
[15:21] <datacrusher> only files
[15:21] <datacrusher> i got 3 dos programs
[15:21] <Guest101> Anyone have a good program to connect to ma server w/ via SHH that they can reccomend me?
[15:21] <datacrusher> and the personal files
[15:21] <Balian> amenado wath install?
[15:21] <ikonia> Guest101: ssh
[15:21] <datacrusher> putty
[15:21] <dynoll3> how we show the file in a file? what command
[15:21] <datacrusher> ssh
[15:21] <raw> i don't believe it that am using ubuntu and free :p lol bill gate get lost muahahahahahah
[15:21] <Guest101> oh yeah
[15:21] <Guest101> ssh
[15:21] <Guest101> sorr
[15:21] <MoTec> Guest101 from what OS are you trying to connect?
[15:21] <Guest101> y
[15:21] <ncorpse> Guest10015, openssh is cool
[15:21] <FloodBot1> Guest101: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:21] <Guest101> MoTec: Ubuntu via Wubi (8.04 LTS)
[15:22] <ikonia> Guest101: ssh is all you need
[15:22] <amenado> Balian fresco installation..get the liveCd iso for 8.04.1 and install that
[15:22] <datacrusher> im with a walkthrough, im just adding the users, and editint the smb.conf
[15:22] <MoTec> you are trying to connect to Ubuntu from what?  Another ubuntu machine?
[15:22] <Guest101> MoTeC, yes.
[15:22] <datacrusher> my doubht its about the backup
[15:22] <MoTec> Guest101: then just open a shell prompt and ssh -l username servername
[15:22] <rwycuff> Guest101,how are you trying to connect to it
[15:23] <Guest101> MoTeC I want a program like PuTTy, but that wont work with linux.
[15:23] <SeveredCross> What?
[15:23] <ikonia> Guest101: putty will work with linux
[15:23] <SeveredCross> Why not juse use ssh?
[15:23] <ikonia> Guest101: but you dont need putty, ssh as a client will be fine, there is no difference
[15:23] <MoTec> aye, just open up a shell prompt and use ssh
[15:23] <rwycuff> Guest101,Term is better then putty in linux though
[15:23]  * SeveredCross smells a "but ssh is a terminal app, PuTTy has a GUI!" complaint comping.
[15:23] <itai-michaelson> datacrusher Rsync
[15:24] <Guest101> Whats a shell?
[15:24] <ikonia> Guest101: don't worry about it, open the "terminal" window
[15:24] <ikonia> Guest101: and use "ssh"
[15:24] <Balian> amenado i don't hawe liveCD i do update with internet.
[15:24] <ogzy> is there anyone who can tell me how to activate the properties of /apps/gnome-power-manager/ui/cpufreq_show to see cpu freq at gnome-power-manager, i have already checked it at the gcong but nothing changed at the gnome-power-manager icon at the tray
[15:24] <geirha> datacrusher: read the manpages for "crontab" and "growisofs". You read a man-page by typing "man growisofs" in a terminal
[15:24] <ncorpse> Guest101 you might know it as Console
[15:24] <unop> !info putty | Guest10015
[15:24] <MoTec> yeah.. open the terminal... then type ssh -l username servername
[15:24] <Guest101> ok
[15:24] <SNuxoll> MoTec: or ssh username@server ...
[15:24] <Guest101> thanks
[15:25] <Guest101> bye
[15:25] <MoTec> SNuxoll: ah, never used that format :)
[15:25] <SNuxoll> MoTec: I use it all the time....
[15:25] <SNuxoll> MoTec: I don't think I've ever used -l username server
[15:25] <MoTec> I'm not saying I don't believe you.. Just that I've never used it :)
[15:25] <itai-michaelson> datacrusher, i belive many programes will do back up for you ,there are many choices in linux, i would use Rsync or backuppc
[15:25] <amenado> Balian you can boot your existing linux (6.10?)  then you can use debootstrap to download the basic 8.04.1 ..btw debootstrap is the standard ubuntu supported install
[15:25] <datacrusher> geirha: thanks!
[15:26] <anabolix> hey guys should i have problems when i switch between terminals when listening to music for example going from (ctrl+alt+f7) to (ctrl+alt+f1)?
[15:26] <lenny_> ubuntu sucks
[15:26] <ManualOverDozer8> question about OpenBox , i installed it but i dont see my windows changed, and metacity is still loaded in memory (shows in System Monitor. how do i enable OpenBox and/or is it safe to remove metacity ?
[15:26] <KoolD> how to open an application from console with different pid..(so that i can continue using that console without stopping the running application)
[15:26] <jamestweet> If ubuntu sucks then don't use it.
[15:26] <unop> jamestweet, don't feed the troll :)
[15:27] <MoTec> KoolD: appname &
[15:27] <amenado> datacrusher-> perhaps you also need to learn about tar (tape archiver) so you can compress the backup before burning to cdrom/dvdrom
[15:27] <name_name> sup #ubuntu
[15:27] <anabolix> hey guys should i have problems when i switch between terminals when listening to music for example going from (ctrl+alt+f7) to (ctrl+alt+f1)? my system sometimes crashes, or it gets extremmmely slow
[15:27] <MoTec> that will return control to the console
[15:27] <unop> ManualOverDozer8, did you choose the openbox session at the login screen?
[15:27] <KoolD> motec: hey thanks
[15:27] <MoTec> KoolD: You still can't close that terminal that spawned the process, tho.. Or it'll kill that process.
[15:27] <MoTec> But you can do other things in the terminal, at least.
[15:27] <ManualOverDozer8> unop: op i didnt happen to see it, i will check. btw (i havent rebooted yet)
[15:28] <KoolD> ok
[15:28] <unop> amenado, you really mean [gb]zip there :) not tar :)
[15:28] <unop> ManualOverDozer8, you don't need a reboot
[15:28] <amenado> unop-> well tar do have options to compress, :P
[15:28] <unop> amenado, only Gnu's tar tho
[15:28] <Balian> amenado i hawe idea. Where i can take ubuntu 8.04 in iso?
[15:28] <amenado> unop you are right, i recall hpunix do not have it..
[15:28] <fole> my cpu frequency is always at the lowest level. I even cannot change it manually with cpufreq-selector. some ideas?
[15:29] <jamestweet> Simple question. How do I get a program to open a file in the current directory not my home directory?
[15:29] <amenado> !download | Balian
[15:29] <SleepyThor> hi again,
[15:30] <amenado> jamestweet-> which program?
[15:30] <ManualOverDozer8> unop: where might i find OpenBox ?
[15:30] <ncorpse> jamestweet, you can use absoluts pathsin bash you can do gedit /tmp/myfolder/myfile.txt
[15:30] <jamestweet> xdeview
[15:30] <unop> ManualOverDozer8, at the login screen, click "change session" - select "openbox" -- then login
[15:30] <unop> ManualOverDozer8, provided you have already installed the openbox packages
[15:30] <datacrusher> amenado: nice remembering it... but my files dont get trought 3gb, and i may use the dvd to rescue files on windows machines
[15:31] <ncorpse> jamestweet, oh sry ma bad, just do xdeview ./<myfile>
[15:31] <WorkFromHome> We are looking for energetic people to fill out survey's from their home for money! www.esurveyworld-online.com for more info!
[15:31] <datacrusher> does tar compress files im zip format?
[15:31] <jeferson> bom dia!!!!
[15:31] <ikonia> WorkFromHome: not in here please.
[15:31] <Awsoonn> looking for sugestions on a program to replace norton ghost
[15:31] <datacrusher> jeferson: cara, vai no ubuntu-br
[15:31] <ManualOverDozer8> unop: oh , ok. i did look at that in the Sys/Admin/Login Window and it closes imediately. i will log out and check that out
[15:31] <datacrusher> aqui so ingles
[15:31] <unop> datacrusher, no, it uses gzip which is somewhat compatible with winzip/winrar and other archiving tools
[15:31] <datacrusher> um.. fine
[15:31] <SleepyThor> I've had lots of machine freezes recently, especially if I run pidgin, firefox and openoffice at the same time, and numerous times after restarting. and I found from /var/log/kern.log that everytime that happened there's either a ACPI interruption error or CCMP decrypt error, could anyone explain that?
[15:31] <amenado> datacrusher-> off hand i dont recall, but if you do  man tar  it will tell you what its options are
[15:31] <jeferson> preciso de dicas de onde consigo achar a pasta ou arquivo do lugar onde esta o squid
[15:31] <DJones> ikonia: You mind a pm at the minute?
[15:32] <ikonia> DJones: sure, go for it
[15:32] <unop> amenado, gzip = gnu zip .. :)
[15:32] <amenado> jeferson-> join #squid
[15:32] <TiredWolf> !es | jeferson
[15:32] <zeech> join free
[15:32] <SNuxoll> unop: bzip2 > gzip
[15:32] <amenado> unop i still dont recall the switch though.. hehe
[15:32] <unop> SNuxoll, that's subjective :)
[15:32] <Awsoonn> or a way to image an NTFS partition w/o having to copy unallocated space as well
[15:32] <unop> amenado, -z :p
[15:32] <SNuxoll> unop: no it's not
[15:33] <SNuxoll> unop: bzip2 has higher compression ratios
[15:33] <unop> SNuxoll, it is -- yes, and it is also slower
[15:33] <th0r> amenado, the switch is 'z' like in 'tar -cz'
[15:33] <th0r> amenado, but it does call gzip to do the compression
[15:33] <amenado> unop you have great memory...what do you eat for breakfast? i have to start eating like you do..
[15:33] <SNuxoll> unop: and totally worth it if you value space
[15:33] <unop> SNuxoll, i value time sometimes more :)
[15:33] <datacrusher> jeferson: /j ubuntu-br
[15:34] <unop> amenado, manpages for breakfast :)
[15:35] <amenado> th0r-> actually that for datacrusher ..i was merely hinting man pages to get further verbage
[15:35] <jeferson> obrigado....rio de janeiro esta calor e sol esta ótimo...
[15:35] <jamestweet> xdeview ./  didn't work.
[15:36] <l3d> ok I have been installing different desktop managers and trying them such as enlightement  and flux and such but was wondering why the kde blended with gnome I would have thought it would have been seperated
[15:36] <eshat> Hi all, is there a way to autolock a file, so that 2 user can not edit it at the same time ?
[15:36] <jamestweet> I am trying to associate a file with a program. But the program needs to execute in the same directory as the file.
[15:37] <anabolix> is there a way to get video/voice chat on pidgin?
[15:37] <anabolix> for msn log on?
[15:38] <flyingBird> no
[15:38] <unop> jamestweet, i'd say the best way would be to create a script and associate file extensions with it. the script changes directories to where the file is and calls the right program on the file
[15:38] <Neku> i kepp having this error can anyone help? E: Type ‘“deb’ is not known on line 53 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:38] <Neku> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[15:39] <unop> Neku, put your /etc/apt/sources.list on a !pastebin for us to have a look at.
[15:40] <jamestweet> unop, I don't know how to script.
[15:40] <l3d> is there a way to remove kde and all of its apps in one cmd? with out haveing to go through add and remove everything one by one
[15:40] <Neku> unop. how do i do a paste bin?
[15:40] <unop> !paste > Neku
[15:40] <face-shot> where can I edit pre-login visual (i.e., screen turning off, etc.) preferences?
[15:40] <Pici> !puregnome | l3d
[15:40] <unop> jamestweet, ok, let's see what i can come up with quick
[15:41] <ManualOverDozer8> unup: success
[15:41] <ManualOverDozer8> nice speed too
[15:41] <ManualOverDozer8> now i know what that border-fade was. it doesnt do it anymore.
[15:42] <jamestweet> unop, I am an old windows user and in windows when you associate a program to a file. The program executes in that same directory. By default.
[15:42] <Neku> unop what part do i paste? it come up as a screen
[15:42] <jamestweet> unop, Is there some sort of setting in Gnome?
[15:43] <unop> Neku, run this command, a URL will be generated at the end that you can give us.   which pastebinit || sudo aptitude install pastebinit;  pastebinit < /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:43] <srv2008> hi all, can advice what room to get networking information
[15:43] <ManualOverDozer8> wow! easily twice as fast if not more. this old monster is revived :)
[15:43] <ghoulsblade> hi, i installed xp after kubuntu, now the bootloader(grub) is gone, how can i reinstall it ? (i'm under kubuntu live cd atm)
[15:43] <Starnestommy> srv2008: maybe ##networking
[15:43] <Pici> !fixgrub > ghoulsblade
[15:43] <srv2008> Starnetstommy: :) thx
[15:43] <ghoulsblade> thanks =)
[15:44] <Neku> unop i cant install it every time i use terminal tht annoyin message shows up
[15:44] <unop> jamestweet, even on windows - directories are not always changed, it's upto the program to change directories (while most do, some don't) - I am not aware of any setting in gnome to change directories first - which is why i suggested the wrapper script
[15:44] <unop> Neku, paste the whole file's contents then
[15:45] <pulseeza1> so i just changed my wireless settings to use a static IP address and there have been two side effects. I no longer get the signal strength icon at the top right only a pic of two monitors, and on the attached devices page of the router manager this computer no longer seems to have a name. Any ideas?
[15:45] <Neku> 1 sec ill restart
[15:46] <kristjan_eerik> pulseeza1, the first is because you have manually changed the configuration
[15:46] <ManualOverDozer8> oh no my tommy-notes are gone
[15:46] <pulseeza1> ﻿kristjan_eerik: is there a way to use manual configuration and still get the signal strength icon?
[15:46] <MoTec> pulseeza1: consider having your router give out a specific IP to that mac address instead of specifing the IP on the client side.
[15:47] <l3d> can who ever posted that link to get rid of kde post it again please
[15:47] <SNuxoll> !puregnome | l3d
[15:47] <l3d> ty
[15:47] <unop> jamestweet, this should do.  http://pastebin.com/d37ce9b6a
[15:47] <pulseeza1> ﻿MoTec: good idea
[15:47] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿pulseeza1 yes you can set the settings back
[15:47] <fole> my cpu frequency is always at the lowest level. any ideas?
[15:48] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿pulseeza1 edit your interfaces file
[15:48] <Tristam> Anybody familiar with wacom stuff?  My Bamboo Fun doesn't show up with xidump -l nor does it show up in the Gimp.  Followed the thread in the forums for setting it up and it works as a pointing device.
[15:48] <Otacon22> Hola, i found a guide to install my wireless card, it says to put a bin file into /lib/hotplug/firmware, but i don't have that folder, wich folder should i use?
[15:48] <pulseeza1> ﻿ManualOverDozer8: where is that?
[15:48] <Trumbun_> hi., I ahve an nvidia graphic card with the nvidia setings manger installed, how to configure dual screen
[15:48] <Trumbun_> cloned
[15:48] <Trumbun_> ?
[15:48] <ManualOverDozer8>  gksu gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[15:49] <Uranellus> hello, i need to upgrade a few left over servers with 6.10 installed on them .. how do I do that? I tried do-release-update, but it has problems finding the repos on the ubuntu servers ..
[15:49] <ManualOverDozer8> you only need two lines if you only have one netcard and use dhcp
[15:49] <edju> This Pavillion notebook will not sleep - I get a screen of garbage and must alt-ctl-del out.  I've tried googling but have come up blank. 2.6.24-19-generic kernel.  Any pointers greatly appreciated.
[15:49] <unop> Otacon22, ideally, the source package that contains the driver and firmware should have a installer script that places everything in the right locations
[15:49] <Trumbun> hi., I ahve an nvidia graphic card with the nvidia setings manger installed, how to configure dual screen cloned
[15:49] <Otacon22> unop, this don't have anything, is a .bin file inside the windows driver disk
[15:50] <Otacon22> that can be used also su linux
[15:50] <unop> Uranellus, did you try this first.  sudo aptitude update;  sudo do-release-upgrade?
[15:50] <JennyG> Man, I still have no idea wtf I am doing
[15:50] <Uranellus> unop: yes .. but the edgy repos on the ubuntu servers are no longer there (404 errors)
[15:50] <td123> !dual | Trumbun
[15:50] <unop> Otacon22, not really sure then .. create that directory and place your firmware in it
[15:51] <td123> Trumbun: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[15:51] <ManualOverDozer8> 3 lines
[15:51] <unop> Uranellus, well if you are upgrading, you don't really have a need for the edgy servers anymore, you can comment the edgy repos out in /etc/apt/source.list
[15:52] <Trumbun> ok i am seeing it out
[15:52] <eshat> Is there a way to lock a file for other users, while I am editing it with emacs,vi,nano or whatever ?
[15:52] <Uranellus> unop: ok, I'll try that (now there are no sources at all ..) but let's see what do-release-upgrade does :)
[15:53] <jamestweet> unop, You are the man. It works great.
[15:54] <blow_me_away> hi
[15:54] <unop> jamestweet, good to know :)
[15:54] <simon__> irc://irc.freenode.com/#ubuntu-se
[15:54] <ghostlines> wazaaa
[15:54] <blow_me_away> can I use a linux bootloader on a macbook, and will osx still be able to boot? (installed ubuntu but it doesnt show in the startup-screen)
[15:54] <Uranellus> unop: there are a few warnings, and it tries to upgrade to feisty ..
[15:54] <RainyLithuanian> might I ask how to mount ntfs partition with ubuntu 8.041 safe mode ?
[15:55] <jamestweet> unop, Is there a way to have the trash can shred files that get deleted?
[15:55] <unop> Uranellus, what might be safer actually is to replace edgy with feisty in sources.list then
[15:55] <willluongo> RainyLithuanian: It should tell you when you try to mount it the normal way
[15:55] <willluongo> RainyLithuanian: and ask you to force
[15:55] <unop> jamestweet, errm, perhaps - though i don't use gnome or kde, so i can't say
[15:55] <Uranellus> unop: what if I put hardy in there directly?
[15:56] <jamestweet> unop, Ok thanks for your help.
[15:56] <RainyLithuanian> willluongo, I am newb, how can you check how are your partitions named?
[15:56] <RainyLithuanian> I might guess that it's sd2 or smth, but I am not sure:)
[15:56] <unop> Uranellus, errm, upgrading directly to hardy is probably not officially supported by ubuntu.
[15:57] <willluongo> RainyLithuanian: df -h will show you all of the partitions you are using (and their disk space)
[15:57] <andrew___> RainyLithuanian: fdisk -l
[15:57] <RainyLithuanian> thanks
[15:57] <Uranellus> unop: ok, thanks
[15:57] <vega--> hmm, plugged in usb devices (ipod, usb stick, camera) still open software for all users logged in on hardy, not just the one currently active, which of course results in silly errors to the user not able to claim the device
[15:57] <andrew___> RainyLithuanian: I meant sudo fdisk -l
[15:58] <KrimZon> is there any way to change what extra characters you get when you use the alt-gr key?
[15:58] <unop> Uranellus, though that has never stopped me from doing something like it -- i wouldn't recommend you do that on servers in a production environment
[15:58] <cdj26> hey there, does anybody know how to change the location of Documents, so that when i click it in nautilus it goes to the folder of my choosing, and so the default location of save and open is changed
[15:59] <SNuxoll> cdj26: delete documents and symlink it somewhere else
[15:59] <ikonia> !away > dtcrshr_OFF
[15:59] <Uranellus> unop: I will, in any case, try it with a few dev systems first .. ;)
[15:59] <cdj26> SNuxoll: how is that done
[15:59] <raqamy> hi, how to convert swf format to avi or mpeg?
[15:59] <willluongo> !away
[16:00] <SNuxoll> cdj26: delete the folder, than run ln -s Documents /path/to/target in a terminal
[16:00] <unop> Uranellus, well, that probably won't be good enough. you might find yourself in a different soup doing that with the servers (as they might have different packages installed, different configurations, etc)
[16:00] <cdj26> thanks
[16:00] <JennyG> I need help with my wifi, still. I keep trying but I don't know what I'm doing, much less if I'm doing it right.
[16:00] <Uranellus> unop: I know .. but that's all I can do atm ..
[16:00] <unop> SNuxoll, errm, have you got the order right there? :)
[16:00] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG what seems to be the issue ?
[16:00] <SNuxoll> unop: yes
[16:00] <Trumbun> how to use the remote desktop within a desktop
[16:01] <unop> SNuxoll, ln -s /path/to/target Documents
[16:01] <SNuxoll> unop: err, bah, no
[16:01] <SNuxoll> unop: I don't use ln that much
[16:01] <unop> cdj26, see above ^^
[16:01] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, I can't get the card to work. It's a broadcom 4318
[16:01] <Trumbun> ok thanks it worked
[16:01] <unop> SNuxoll, excuses excuses :) no worries, we've all got ln mixed up that way
[16:02] <lch> sooooooo, I just installed the server from the alternate installation cd and finally finished, it rebooted and then grub loaded, it says "Loading, please wait..." after Grub and then "Segmentation fault" - wtf
[16:02] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿JennyG have you tried Network Manager ?
[16:02] <cdj26> thanks both of you
[16:02] <SNuxoll> unop: it would make more sense to have the link name first....
[16:02] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, I think so-- I'm really confused.
[16:02] <RainyLithuanian> so what do I do if I want to mount sda2 to /media/disk2/
[16:02] <RainyLithuanian> ?
[16:03] <geirha> RainyLithuanian: manually or permanently?
[16:03] <unop> SNuxoll, errm, not really if you say it aloud " link my target with this file here" ..
[16:03] <RainyLithuanian> manually
[16:03] <Sylphid|work> mount /dev/sda2 /media/disk2
[16:03] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿JennyG in menu go to System/Administration/Network   that is your netowrk manager
[16:03] <blaked> lolz
[16:03] <geirha> RainyLithuanian: what Sylphid|work said, but with sudo infront
[16:03] <ManualOverDozer8> see if you card shows up there, if it does double click it and set it up as to suit how your router is setup
[16:03] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, Yeah, I've played with that but couldn't get anything
[16:04] <demetris> how can i install adobe flash player on ubuntu ?
[16:04] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿JennyG does your card show up there ?
[16:04] <RainyLithuanian> lol, mount point does not exist
[16:04] <unop> !flash > demetris
[16:04] <RainyLithuanian> should I mkdir?
[16:04] <geirha> RainyLithuanian: sudo mkdir /media/disk2
[16:04] <RainyLithuanian> thanks
[16:04] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, I don't think so. What should it say if it does?
[16:04] <demetris> thx mate
[16:04] <unop> is pmount installed by default on hardy? anyone know?
[16:04] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿JennyG open up terminal and type > sudo -i
[16:04] <demetris> it can be installed with one simple command unop ?
[16:05] <unop> demetris, yep
[16:05] <unop> !info flashplugin-nonfree | demetris
[16:05] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, k
[16:05] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿JennyG now type>  ifconfig -a
[16:05] <ManualOverDozer8> this will show what adapters are there
[16:05] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿JennyG look for something like ath0 or wlan0
[16:05] <demetris> unop, 3-4 commands ;p ok thx mate.
[16:05] <blaked> lol
[16:05] <blaked> or wifi0
[16:05] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, I have wlan0
[16:05] <mkartic> hey, each time i need to start the terminal i need to type 'gnome-terminal' <-- is there a shorter way?
[16:06] <RainyLithuanian> how do I specify file system type?
[16:06] <ManualOverDozer8> ok
[16:06] <MoTec> -f ntfs
[16:06] <unop> demetris, sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree # is one command :p
[16:06] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿JennyG now type> ifconfig wlan0 up
[16:06] <Next1> I can't ping localhost . How can I fix this?
[16:06] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿JennyG tell me what it says
[16:06] <demetris> oh ;p i saw 3-4 with tar.gz etc.
[16:06] <unop> mkartic, it should be in your menu.  Accessories > Terminal
[16:06] <demetris> hehe thanks again
[16:06] <mkartic> hey, each time i need to start the terminal i need to type 'gnome-terminal' <-- is there a shorter way, pls? like setting up a shorted command
[16:07] <mkartic> unop: i press alt+F2 then type it in
[16:07] <KOSKERS> Excuse me,may you tell me how can I install the file such rpm or tar.bz2
[16:07] <Sylphid|work> mkartic, set up a keyboard shortcut
[16:07] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿JennyG does it give you any kind of error ?
[16:08] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, no
[16:08] <demetris> ubuntu owns
[16:08] <demetris> you can do anything with one command.
[16:08] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿JennyG now type > iwconfig
[16:08] <mkartic> okie, let me google and figure tat out :) thanks!
[16:08] <unop> mkartic, create a link called myterm (or something else) then.  sudo ln -sv $(which gnome-terminal) /usr/local/bin/myterm
[16:08] <Sylphid|work> mkartic, system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[16:08] <geirha> RainyLithuanian: with -t ... -t ext3 for example. It should autodetect though
[16:08] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿JennyGis it set up like your router is setup ?
[16:08] <geirha> RainyLithuanian: have you both partitioned it and formatted it?
[16:09] <mkartic> unop: what other options do i have apart from the usual 'gnome-terminal'?
[16:09] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, Um, everything except wlan0 says no wireless extensions
[16:09] <unop> mkartic, x-terminal-emulator :)
[16:09] <RainyLithuanian> geirha, youp
[16:09] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿JennyG how are you connected now ? the computer in question ?
[16:09] <SNuxoll> mkartic: xterm, rxvt, terminator
[16:09] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, No, I'm on teh other laptop
[16:10] <SNuxoll> mkartic: xfce4's terminal, eterm
[16:10] <geirha> RainyLithuanian: which filesystem have you formatted it with?
[16:10] <unop> mkartic, i use urxvt (rxvt-unicode)
[16:10] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG try this > sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:10] <mkartic> wow, as usual am flooded with options! thanks guys. . . F3 opens the terminal for me now :)
[16:11] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, okay?
[16:11] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG then do (tell me if you see a reading on "signal")> iwconfig
[16:11] <KOSKERS> #ubuntu.cn
[16:11] <KOSKERS> #ubuntu.cn
[16:11] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, No, Signal Level: 0
[16:11] <geirha> KOSKERS: #ubuntu-cn
[16:12] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG ok, it isnt associated
[16:12] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, WHat does that mean?
[16:12] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG means you are not connected to the Access Point
[16:12] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG do you happen to know if there is a password to get onto the router ?
[16:12] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, okay? What should I do?
[16:13] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, Like wep?
[16:13] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG yes or WPA
[16:13] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, Yes
[16:13] <ManualOverDozer8> WEP ?
[16:13] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, yes
[16:13] <mmw> haiii
[16:13] <Johnny> whats a script that would just keep cat a file over and over
[16:14] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG now try Network Manager again and double click the wireless to configure
[16:14] <SNuxoll> Johnny: while [1]; do; cat file; done
[16:14] <balzac> hello
[16:14]  * UltimateMacUser1 is trying to get one of his wifi PCMCIA cards working in Ubuntu 5.10.  Either a Buffalo G54 AirStation, or a Lucent WaveLAN Silver
[16:14] <UltimateMacUser1> are either of those compatable?
[16:14] <SNuxoll> UltimateMacUser1: 5.10? ;(
[16:14] <balzac> How can I arbitrarily order the items which represent running programs on the bottom panel?
[16:15] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, k
[16:15] <SNuxoll> balzac: you can simply drag and drop them
[16:15] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG make sure the little checkbox is checked
[16:15] <cypherdelic> Can somebody help me to get my MSI DigiVox mini III recognized correctly by ubuntu hardy, please?
[16:15] <UltimateMacUser1> SNuxoll: yes, 5.10
[16:15] <SNuxoll> UltimateMacUser1: why?!
[16:15] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, okay
[16:15] <balzac> thanks SNuxoll
[16:15] <UltimateMacUser1> cause it's what i had a handy install disk for
[16:15] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG setup your SSID and WEP and choose DHCP
[16:15] <SNuxoll> balzac: no problem
[16:15] <SNuxoll> UltimateMacUser1: 6.06 maybe, but likely not for 5.10...
[16:16] <UltimateMacUser1> balls :(
[16:16] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG unless you setup a static IP , in most cases it will be DHCP
[16:16] <UltimateMacUser1> will 6.06 run on a 1GHz IBM ThinkPad?
[16:16] <SNuxoll> UltimateMacUser1: yes
[16:16] <DJones> UltimateMacUser1: I don't think 5.10 is supported anymore, you'd be better downloading the latest version
[16:16] <SNuxoll> UltimateMacUser1: 8.04 will run on it too
[16:16] <UltimateMacUser1> ok, i'll update it later.  thanks
[16:16]  * UltimateMacUser1 shall return
[16:16] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, Okay?
[16:16] <DJones> UltimateMacUser1: I've got 8.04 running on a PIII 700mhz processor
[16:16] <kohnrad1983> Firefox hangs up on me while scrolling if I have wine open running world of warcraft.  Any ideas how to fix?
[16:17] <Johnny> SNuxoll, #/bin/bash
[16:17] <Johnny> while [1];
[16:17] <Johnny> do;
[16:17] <Johnny> cat ~/compile;
[16:17] <Johnny> done
[16:17] <FloodBot1> Johnny: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:17] <Johnny> i get syntax error after do
[16:17] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG is all setup like the router is ?
[16:17] <Johnny> do i need the ; ?
[16:17] <SNuxoll> Johnny: no
[16:17] <alraune> ﻿DJones: UltimateMacUser1: even runs on a 450 MHZ PIII
[16:17] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, what?
[16:17] <Johnny> SNuxoll, ./comp.sh: line 2: [1]: command not found
[16:18] <dury> hi there channel :)
[16:18] <Pici> Johnny: Do you just want to look at a file and see what changes on it? tail -f may be what you're looking for.
[16:18] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG you adjusted the settings in Netwrk Manager according to how the wireless Access Point is ?
[16:18] <SNuxoll> Johnny: [ 1 ]
[16:18] <Johnny> no
[16:18] <SNuxoll> Johnny: spaces are important
[16:18] <unop> SNuxoll, while true .. :)
[16:18] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, yes
[16:18] <Johnny> i just want something that will look like my computer is compiling so i can lie and say its doing something important when my friends want to check their myspaces
[16:19] <geirha> Johnny: are you trying to do the same as "tail -f ~/compile" ?
[16:19] <dury> where can I download lasterst iso
[16:19] <dury> latest iso
[16:19] <SNuxoll> Johnny: lol, nice
[16:19] <Pici> Johnny: cat /dev/urandom
[16:19] <Johnny> no geirha
[16:19] <td123> !iso | dury
[16:19] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG you still have terminal open with root access right ?
[16:19] <SNuxoll> Johnny: yeah, cat /dev/urandom typicall works well for that :)
[16:19] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, Yes
[16:19] <Johnny> its just a bunch of garbage Pici
[16:19] <td123> dury, nvm, just go to ubuntu.com and click get ubuntu and get it from there
[16:19] <Pici> Johnny: indeed.
[16:20] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG type> sudo dhclient -r
[16:20] <Johnny> something like that but so it looks like its compiling
[16:20] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG then > sudo dhclient
[16:20] <scibot> Yo, I just found I could tell my widescreen to respect the aspect ratio when scaling ala. xrandr --output LVDS --set PANEL_FITTING full_aspect
[16:20] <ManualOverDozer8> no r
[16:20] <scibot> I was wondering if there is a way for me to set this as default/permanent?
[16:20] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, okay?
[16:20] <UltimateMacUser1> righto, i've got v8.04 downloading
[16:20] <pulseezar> so i've found out that i can share files from a vista machine to my ubuntu lappy using places - connect to server... and using the windows share option. This makes the shared folder appear on my desktop. Can I get ubuntu to do this automatically on startup?
[16:21] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG now > iwconfig
[16:21] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG look for signal
[16:21] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, no signal
[16:21] <[dx]> is there some channel for chat.. not for servers/OS etc.
[16:21] <Johnny> ok SNuxoll its working thanks now is there a way that i cat output something compiling to a text file?
[16:21] <geirha> Johnny: ah, hehe, while true;do cat ~/compile;sleep $((RANDOM/8192));done
[16:22] <TiredWolf> [dx]: #defocus or #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:22] <pulseezar> #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:22] <SNuxoll> Johnny: make > compile.txt
[16:22] <[dx]> great
[16:22] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG is there a strng of numbers like 00:00:00:32:42:54 near Access Point ?
[16:22] <[dx]> thanks
[16:22] <Kira> hmm
[16:22] <alraune> ﻿[dx]: ﻿#ubuntu-offtopic
[16:23] <Kira> How do I get aptitude to tell me where the files of a package would be installed?
[16:23] <bonez45> I just got ubuntu 8.0.4 to install on a system that was running etch.. it wouldn't install directly, but DID after loading LIVE CD, and then running install from that
[16:23] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, no, it says not-associated
[16:23] <Johnny> how do i mix to files together?
[16:23] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG ok
[16:23] <Johnny> text
[16:23] <kohnrad1983> is there an IRC channel for wine?
[16:23] <Pici> kohnrad1983: #winehq
[16:24] <TiredWolf> kohnrad1983: #winehq
[16:24] <kohnrad1983> thanks
[16:24] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG try this> iwlist scan
[16:24] <alraune> ﻿bonez45:and ?
[16:24] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG tell me if your wireless access point is in there ?
[16:24] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, Interface doesn
[16:24] <JennyG> 't support scanning
[16:24] <geirha> Johnny: cat file1 file2
[16:25] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG now you had this running before ?
[16:25] <emanuele> qualcuno può aiutarmi a installare i driveer della mia scheda video?
[16:25] <emanuele> Ati
[16:25] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, Nope. I just put ubuntu on here today
[16:25] <TiredWolf> !it | emanuele
[16:25] <emanuele> ok
[16:26] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG ok
[16:26] <pulseezar> ﻿so i've found out that i can share files from a vista machine to my ubuntu lappy using places - connect to server... and using the windows share option. This makes the shared folder appear on my desktop. Can I get ubuntu to do this automatically on startup?
[16:26] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG just a min please
[16:26] <geirha> Johnny: why not download some source, and have the script recompile it over and over again instead? then you're actually compiling something too
[16:26] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, k
[16:26] <Johnny> like what geirha ?
[16:26] <Johnny> any ideas what would be good?
[16:27] <Johnny> and wont that take up more memory than just a script to echo a file over and over
[16:27] <geirha> Johnny: apt-get source packagename   will download the source of a give package to the directory you are in. Pick a package at random.
[16:28] <Johnny> http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200807302116231440x900swm1.png
[16:28] <geirha> Johnny: yes, but it will look realistic. And you can run it with low priority so it doesn't use up cpu
[16:28] <Johnny> does anyone use awesome?
[16:28] <Johnny> what package should i get that wont take up alot geirha ?
[16:28] <SeveredCross> geirha?
[16:28] <SeveredCross> What?
[16:29] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG just want to look at these files, whatever you do dont change them till we see what is there
[16:29] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, okay
[16:29] <td123> Johnny: i use awesome
[16:29] <ManualOverDozer8> terminal> gedit /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases
[16:29] <geirha> SeveredCross: yes?
[16:29] <lazarus_lupine> anyone have any idea why the f-lock key on my keyboard stopped working? It seems to be fine when I boot into windows but in ubuntu it and the special keys that worked b4 it stopped working.
[16:29] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG empty ?
[16:29] <SeveredCross> Oh, sorry, I thought geirha was a noun there.
[16:30] <SeveredCross> I didn't realize it was a person's nick at the end of a sentence.
[16:30] <SeveredCross> Darn kids these days, with their backwards sentences.
[16:30] <lazarus_lupine> kinda like yoda
[16:30] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, yeah, empty
[16:30] <geirha> Johnny: I don't know, maybe coreutils, it's a lot of small programs.
[16:30] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG ok now> gedit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[16:31] <ManualOverDozer8> close the previous one
[16:31] <td123> Johnny: what is your question?
[16:31] <pulseezar> SeveredCross: lol!
[16:31] <nschembr> I'm remastering a live cd I know that I need bcm43xx-fwcutter. how do I install this in a chroot env and have it enabled by default.
[16:31] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, okay
[16:32] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG is there something in there ?
[16:32] <robf> what init script starts gnome?
[16:32] <robf> I don't see a gdm in init.d,  so kinda confused.
[16:32] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, yes, it says, "This is a sample configuration file..."
[16:32] <geirha> td123: he wants to have a terminal scroll lots of text so it looks like he's compiling something. So I suggested he actually compile something... for maximum realism
[16:33] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG ok
[16:33] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, among other things
[16:33] <ManualOverDozer8> !pastebin
[16:34] <ManualOverDozer8> post to pastebin and give me URL
[16:34] <ManualOverDozer8> paste.ubuntu.com
[16:34] <JennyG> Oh lovely
[16:34] <Johnny> i got ffmpeg source geirha should i just make the script cd ffmpeg* while true ./configure && make && sudo make install?
[16:35] <td123> geirha: ... ? why would he want to do that? if anything just compile the linux kernel with all options set :)
[16:35] <pos69sum> hi - i was wondering if someone can help me w my home networking.  i set up a new ubuntu box behind a wireless router.  i am trying to ssh to the box but i'm getting connection refused.  i have port forwarding on the router to forward port 22 to the new ubuntu box, and i have opened up port 22 on the ubuntu box via firestarter.
[16:35] <pos69sum> how should i troubleshoot this?
[16:35] <td123> Johnny: I hope you're not doing this for just the look of it...
[16:35] <SeveredCross> Johnny: Who are you trying to impress by faking something compiling?
[16:35] <Johnny> well i wanted to just have something that would cat over and over
[16:36] <Johnny> im not Seven_Six_Two
[16:36]  * MitchM waves at FunnyLookinHat 
[16:36] <Johnny> my friends always show up and want to check their myspaces and if i leave my computer for a second they never get off
[16:36] <Johnny> i want something i can run that makes it look busy so i can lie and keep them off
[16:36] <td123> Johnny, then just download the linux kernel and compile it :)
[16:36] <nixnoob> Johnny: just block myspace by domain on your router and claim its down
[16:36]  * FunnyLookinHat waves back at MitchM 
[16:36] <FunnyLookinHat> MitchM: why you idling here?
[16:37] <hardhatpat> I have been playing quake3 and there is a bug where i need to remove 3dnow ... if i recompile my kernel without 3dnow, will i lose out on anything important?
[16:37] <pulseezar> ﻿so i've found out that i can share files from a vista machine to my ubuntu lappy using places - connect to server... and using the windows share option. This makes the shared folder appear on my desktop. Can I get ubuntu to do this automatically on startup? edit fstab or something?
[16:37] <td123> Johnny: also, use awesome wm, I doubt they will figure out how to use it :P
[16:37] <MitchM> FunnyLookinHat, good question. I was asking nub question the other day... mainly to prove my own point of view. -.^
[16:37] <Johnny> i am td123
[16:37] <MitchM> FunnyLookinHat, never left
[16:37] <td123> Johnny: ... so what is the problem, did you tell them how to start ff? lol, just rebind the damn keys
[16:38] <MitchM> pos69sum, double-check your forward
[16:38] <MitchM> pos69sum, maybe open a port you can test on (80 -> apache)
[16:38] <MitchM> pos69sum, then you can start narrowing stuff down
[16:38] <td123> Johnny: you could also just logout and be done with it... that would be the smart way to do it
[16:38] <Johnny> im usually online when they come over td123
[16:38] <hardhatpat> anyone? ... kernel without 3dnow a bad idea?
[16:39] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, http://paste.ubuntu.com/32637/
[16:39] <td123> Johnny: well, dunno, just logout or compile the kernel imo, but you should be able to tell them that you don't want them to use your computer...
[16:39] <ManualOverDozer8> ok
[16:40] <cIRcuITwoRX> hi everyone.
[16:40] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG you need to setup your information to connect
[16:40] <churl> Question:  im having autostarting app issues.  it always loads abiword, bittorrent, file manager, and a few other windows.  im not finding any of these listed in "autostarted apps".  where might these settings be changed?
[16:40] <greege> Does anyone know of an irc-channel dedicated to laptops?
[16:40] <Johnny> i do td123 and they get all bitchy and moan
[16:41] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG in terminal with root access (sudo -i)
[16:41] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, okay. What do I do?
[16:41] <Johnny> its just easier this way
[16:41] <td123> Johnny: then just freakin
[16:41] <td123> logout
[16:41] <Johnny> they make me open up for them
[16:41] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, k
[16:41] <Johnny> its easier to make it look busy
[16:41] <td123> Johnny: well then you're the problem, not the comuter or your friends if you open it for them...
[16:42] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG > iwconfig wlan0 essid ROUTERSSID
[16:42] <ManualOverDozer8> replace that with yours
[16:42] <JennyG> It's not taking it
[16:42] <churl> Question:  im having autostarting app issues.  it always loads abiword, bittorrent, file manager, and a few other windows.  im not finding any of these listed in "autostarted apps".  where else might these settings be changed?  i read it can be in several places
[16:42] <greege> no laptop channel?
[16:42] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿jennyG what is it saying ?
[16:43] <geirha> Johnny: try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/32639/
[16:43] <greege> I'd ike to know stuff in order to get one that works well with ubuntu
[16:43] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, the ssid is "I Like Cheese", we are weird people I know, and it won't take the spaces
[16:43] <Johnny> thanks geirha
[16:43] <churl> greege are you just looking for a laptop that works well with ubuntu?
[16:44] <eirik_> churl: hm try closing all programs you dont want to be on when booting, then go to Sessions Preferences - Session Options - and click "remember currently running applications." that fixed it for me a few days ago
[16:44] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿jennyG > iwfconfig wlan0 essid "I Like Cheese"
[16:44] <ManualOverDozer8> type
[16:44] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, k
[16:44] <churl> eirik_: thanks, it looked like that's how it got started, but then never changed
[16:44] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿jennyG > iwconfig wlan0 essid "I Like Cheese"
[16:45] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, I did
[16:45] <greege> chur1: Well, I've got some I know of, I'd just like to know which are best suited for ubuntu.. like AMD/intel and if there are driver incompatibilities
[16:45] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿jennyG > iwconfig wlan0 channel auto
[16:45] <ManualOverDozer8> if you knwo the channel you can replace auto with the channel
[16:45] <greege> churl: What graphgics cards are best etc
[16:46] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, k
[16:46] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿jennyG > iwconfig wlan0 ap any
[16:46] <churl> greege: i dont know much, but from my understanding, ubuntu will work well on most anything :)
[16:46] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, okay
[16:47] <itantonella> nu este nici o fata pe aici
[16:47] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿jennyG to check settings > iwconfig
[16:47] <Pici> !ro | itantonella
[16:47] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, okay?
[16:47] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG do they look right ?
[16:48] <demetris> Hello again, I upgraded to the latest version of Compiz-Fusion. But in Visual Effects I can't enable extra effects and normal effects. Why is that ?
[16:48] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, um, it says Access point: Invalid
[16:49] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG just a sec
[16:49] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, okey dokey
[16:50] <w8tah> hi folks -- im getttin ready to try KVIRC4 and it needs qt4 greater than 4.3.4 and the devel packages -- what do i need to install?
[16:50] <stevek> anyone use freenx?
[16:50] <w8tah> im running hardy and fluxbox
[16:50] <ManualOverDozer8> jennG > sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:51] <TiredWolf> w8tah: doesn't it happen to need KDE, too?
[16:51] <w8tah> no
[16:51] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, command not found
[16:51]  * churl THANKS THE GUY FOR THE HELP!
[16:51] <w8tah> TiredWolf: nto that i know of
[16:52] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG are you at root ?
[16:52] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, yes
[16:52] <demetris> Hello again, I upgraded to the latest version of Compiz-Fusion. But in Visual Effects I can't enable extra effects and normal effects. Why is that ?
[16:52] <cypherdelic> Does a explicit firmware for MSI Digivox mini III exist or is any other compatible? Please help
[16:52] <TiredWolf> w8tah: oh well, kvirc 3 does. anyway, libqt4-dev perhaps?
[16:52] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG it should work. but lets do another way
[16:52] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, not wait
[16:53] <w8tah> TiredWolf: ok - i'll give it a hack
[16:53] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG ok
[16:53] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, one thing was typed wrong
[16:53] <ManualOverDozer8> ok
[16:53] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, there it goes
[16:53] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG  errors ?
[16:53] <tantalum> demetris: Are you sure your graphics drivers are loaded?
[16:53] <demetris> how can i see that tantalum ?
[16:54] <demetris> how to test it
[16:54] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, "Network is down"
[16:54] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG > ifdown wlan0
[16:54] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG > ifup wlan0
[16:54] <ManualOverDozer8> both
[16:55] <tantalum> demetris: What graphics card do you have?
[16:55] <demetris> tantalum, ATI something..
[16:55] <tantalum> Look at your proprietary drivers
[16:56] <SyntaxError> kiddo why you fake names
[16:56] <Woodruff> ffs
[16:56] <Woodruff> SyntaxError
[16:56] <Woodruff> All my names are taken
[16:56] <Woodruff> So tried something else :P
[16:56] <SyntaxError> aww
[16:56] <FloodBot1> Woodruff: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:56] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, a couple things say "No such file or directory," and it still says Network is down
[16:56] <SyntaxError> rofl. "don't use enter as punctuation"
[16:56] <histo> !info virtualbox
[16:56] <exe> ffs
[16:56] <exe> Also registered
[16:56] <histo> !virtualbox
[16:56] <Aizel> Lol
[16:56] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG using the ifdown and ifup say that ?
[16:57] <j800r> does anyone have info on mic support for linux/ubuntu?
[16:57] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, ifup did
[16:57] <cybern> SyntaxError
[16:57] <cybern> fINALLY GOT ONE ;d
[16:57] <SyntaxError> wut
[16:57] <SyntaxError> llol
[16:57] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8:
[16:57] <JennyG> oops
[16:57] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG ok
[16:58] <ubuntu_> âñåì ïðèâåò êàê ìîæíî ïîñòàâèòü êóáóíòó âìåñòî óáóíòû áåç ïîòåðè ôàéëîâ?
[16:58] <demetris> tantalum, is there a way to see if my graphics card exist ?
[16:58] <j800r> antone?
[16:58] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8: "ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured"
[16:58] <demetris> i mean.. to auto-find it.
[16:58] <TiredWolf> !ru | ubuntu_
[16:58] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG go to System/Administration/Network Tools
[16:58] <ManualOverDozer8> tools
[16:58] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, okay
[16:59] <alraune> ﻿demetris:lspci
[16:59] <stevek> anyone use freenx?
[16:59] <Gnea> !anyone
[17:00] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG see up top where it says LOOPBACK ? click on it and ensure all 3 are there: lo , wlan0 and wmaster00
[17:00] <Stefan1800> i do not have system -> administration -> shared folder, but samba is installed
[17:00] <j800r> can someone tell me how to get my mic working properly in ubuntu
[17:01] <jovo> how do i install java? something about going to the terminal, typing su, and the root password...what's the root password?
[17:01] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, There's only lo and eth0
[17:01] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG ok that explains
[17:01] <Gnea> j800r: start by plugging it into the proper port, then use alsamixer to set the volume and make sure the dB is turned on.
[17:01] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, what does it explain? lol
[17:01] <j800r> db?
[17:01] <Gnea> j800r: you'll see it in the alsamixer.
[17:01] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG need to setup one of thos blank files
[17:02] <td123> jovo: the root password is the password you use for your main user name
[17:02] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, okay?
[17:02] <jovo> i tried to type it
[17:02] <jovo> nothing shows up
[17:02] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG give me a sec
[17:02] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, okay
[17:02] <Th3_KID> did you try just hitting enter
[17:02] <j800r> i've run alsamixer in terminal. how do adjust levels from there? :\
[17:02] <j800r> nevermind
[17:03] <j800r> i got it
[17:03] <jovo> i type "su", asks me for the root password, i typed in the numerical password that i use, nothing shows up on the screen, press enter anyways, and it says "authentication failed"
[17:03] <Gnea> j800r: :)
[17:03] <bytecode> jovo: if you are running ubuntu the you wont have a "root" password as such
[17:03] <Th3_KID> how do you serf the web from your terminal
[17:03] <unop> !sudo | jovo
[17:03] <Gnea> Th3_KID: lynx or links
[17:03] <td123> jovo: oh, ya, use sudo
[17:03] <j800r> gnea: how do you turn the mic boost on?
[17:03] <bytecode> jovo: but you can type "sudo su" and then enter your pasword
[17:04] <unop> bytecode, err no,  sudo -i  instead
[17:04] <bytecode> ooh - I better RTFM - thx
[17:04] <Gnea> j800r: m
[17:04] <jovo> o...k...i'll take a look at the help page for now..thanks!
[17:04] <Gnea> j800r: it's either muted or it's on
[17:04] <Stefan1800> i do not have system -> administration -> shared folder, but samba is installed. where is the gui?
[17:04] <anthony> ubuntu-offtopic
[17:04] <j800r> thanks a heap :D
[17:04] <Gnea> have fun :)
[17:04] <mbiker> newb question... is there an easy way to upgrade Hardy release to have Apache 2.2.9 versus 2.2.8?
[17:05] <pos69sum> i'm having trouble setting up a new ubuntu box behind a wireless router so that it is available publicly with a static ip and hostname
[17:05] <td123> mbiker: compile your own if you really need 2.2.9
[17:05] <Dominik> hey I have a problem getting Gothic 1 to run with wine, I followed the descritopn given in the AppDB on the wine webpage, but when I start the game the screen just turns white and I have to terminate the game :-/  And I don't get an answer at the winehq channel, can someone help me here?
[17:05] <pos69sum> does anyone know iof any good tutorials for this?
[17:05] <unop> mbiker, you'll need to backport 2.2.9 from intrepid
[17:06] <Gnea> !info apache2
[17:06] <dan> WUT WUT
[17:06] <Dominik> I get 1 error und a bunch of "fixme" the error says: "dmloader: IDirectMusicloaderImpl_IDirectMusicloader_SetObject: could not attach stream to file"   that is what the console output is
[17:06] <Th3_KID> thats cool
[17:06] <anthony> pos69sum: Well, the first question is whether your ISP actually gives you a static IP, or if you need dynamic DNS.
[17:06] <Gnea> !ask | dan
[17:06] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG preparing a pastebin for you so you can edit your file and copy it over
[17:06] <mawanli> oracle
[17:06] <pos69sum> anthony - it gives me a static ip
[17:06] <mbiker> td123: I saw this as a walk through... http://davidwinter.me.uk/articles/2006/10/17/building-apache-22-from-source-for-ubuntu-dapper/
[17:07] <mbiker> td123: have better suggestions?
[17:07] <anthony> pos69sum: Then the only thing left really is to set up the port forward for 80 (or other relevant ones) in your router - portforward.com
[17:07] <unop> mbiker, as i said. backport
[17:07] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG did you say you had an eth0 when you did > iwconfig ?
[17:07] <Abed> need help ! i am trying to copy files to my cellphone memory card using memory card reader USB the first time it went well but now it says it's read only system so any suggestion ?
[17:07] <mbiker> unop: I dunno enough to just backport...  :)
[17:07] <Windsurfer619> (Q) I've installed phpmyadmin as detailed on help.ubuntu, but I'm not able to access it by going to localhost/phpymyadmin. are there any other steps I should be taking?
[17:08] <unop> mbiker, do you know how to add repositories?
[17:08] <td123> mbiker: try unop's idea, otherwise I think you have to compile it. why do you need 2.2.9? anyways
[17:08] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8 on iwconfig, I get lo, eth0, wmaster0, and wlan0
[17:08] <anthony> pos69sum: well, and making sure your router's DHCP server is giving it a static internal IP, and setting the domain name to point to the right place, but those are easy
[17:08] <ManualOverDozer8> ok
[17:08] <ubuntu__> i just want to install ubuntu
[17:08] <jovo> ok well...i downloaded the java installation, and viewed the instructions...it tells me to use su to install it..is there a way to use sudo?
[17:08] <ubuntu__> i made a little 10GB partition to save important data there
[17:08] <ubuntu__> what is the mount point of that partition?
[17:08] <Dominik> hey I have a problem getting Gothic 1 to run with wine, I followed the descritopn given in the AppDB on the wine webpage, but when I start the game the screen just turns white and I have to terminate the game :-/  And I don't get an answer at the winehq channel, can someone help me here?
[17:08] <mbiker> unop: nope... willing to learn.  I figured out two upgrades with issues over ssh... so I should be able to do that
[17:08] <ubuntu__> where should i mount that partition to easily copy data to this partition?
[17:09] <j800r> Gnea: thanks for your help earlier. any idea why playback is so quite even with the recording volume high?
[17:09] <Th3_KID> i have mandriva on my old pc with an intel pentium 2 processor. its not a gui its more like a terminal. anyways i know this is the room for ubuntu but can anyone help with downloading and installing progs on mandriva
[17:09] <mbiker> td123: mod_proxy issues *claim* to be resolved in 2.2.9
[17:09] <gyroscope> Windsurfer619, set your phpmyadmin configuration file?
[17:09] <unop> mbiker, i have a better idea, prevu should be able to help you.
[17:09] <unop> !prevu | mbiker
[17:09] <anthony> Th3_KID: No.
[17:09] <Th3_KID> thanx anthony
[17:10] <mbiker> unop: will look at that... thx!
[17:10] <Windsurfer619> gyroscope: What config file? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/phpMyAdmin doesn't say anything about that. I'm running gutsy, if that's important.
[17:10] <bytecode> Th3_KID: Try joining the mandriva channel.
[17:10] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG ok done
[17:11] <Th3_KID> thanx bytecode
[17:11] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, okay?
[17:11] <monu> hello everyone
[17:11] <gyroscope> Windsurfer619, ok firtly you need editing phpmyadmin configuration file
[17:11] <jovo> can someone help me install java without using su like java suggested and use sudo?
[17:11] <blow_me_away> my bluetooth mouse doesn't appear in the bluetooth menu in ubuntu, what can i do?
[17:11] <blow_me_away> wlan doesnt work either :/
[17:11] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG copy the whole thing except the notes over to the "interfaces" file . i wil give you link to open the file once you have the pastebin
[17:11] <JennyG> okay
[17:12] <Windsurfer619> gyroscope: Which one? There are 5 in /etc/phpmyadmin/
[17:12] <ManualOverDozer8> http://paste.ubuntu.com/32646/
[17:12] <Tarrence> I'm trying to run ./build.sh but I get the first run notice everytime
[17:12] <faltoo> hi guys. i am completely stuck trying to get the ethernet card on my dell vostro 1510 to work. i am using ubuntu 8.04 amd64. a few days ago i was trying a bunch of things, and i added pci=nomsi to my kernel options and it seemed to work. but all of a sudden its stopped working again. the little icon which shows connection status shows up as connected even i haven't plugged in a network cable.
[17:12] <gyroscope> Windsurfer619, that called by config.in.php
[17:12] <faltoo> can somebody please help?
[17:12] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG use the pastebin, and copy then paste to interfaces>  gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[17:12] <Abe1> i am having a trouble with my usb memory card reader... I tried to copy some files the first time it went well but the second time it told me read only system why???
[17:13] <faltoo> is there a way i can download an updated driver or something?
[17:13] <bytecode> jovo: you can install jave via synaptic (system -> Admin -> Synaptic) or add/remove programs (Applications -> add remove ) search for java in either app. you may need to enable the appropriate repository - I'm not sure...
[17:13] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG just dont copy the notes at the bottom, as i can figure you know that.
[17:13] <Tarrence> I'm trying to run ./build.sh but I get the first run notice everytime, I believe it is because ./.firstrun does not have the correct permissions. How can i fix this?
[17:13] <Dominik> can anyone help me with my wine issue getting a Game ( Gothic 1 ) to run ?
[17:13] <jovo> ok i'll give that a try..thanks
[17:13] <gyroscope> Windsurfer619, sudo gedit /path/Config.inc.php
[17:14] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG save the file when done then exit gedit
[17:14] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, okay, hold on
[17:14] <ManualOverDozer8> ok
[17:14] <kou> Dominik: what whine mode are you using? and is it listen on winehq.com?
[17:14] <blow_me_away> wlan is not being shown in the network programm thingy, what do i do? (macbook)
[17:14] <Malgaur> How can I forward all of my traffic comming to a certain public ip to another network computer?  probalby iptables?  I basically want to do a DNAT accept for all ports, not just a couple
[17:14] <Windsurfer619> gyroscope: Yeah, I've got that. But what do I edit?
[17:14] <Dominik> kou: you mean what wine version ? And yes it is listed as Gold in the wine AppDB
[17:14] <Tarrence> This is the error: touch: cannot touch `./.firstrun': Read-only file system
[17:14] <Windsurfer619> gyroscope: And how does this help me fix the 404 not found in apache?
[17:14] <Abe1> ﻿i am having a trouble with my usb memory card reader... I tried to copy some files the first time it went well but the second time it told me read only system why???
[17:15] <Dominik> kou: I am using Wine 1.1.2
[17:15] <gyroscope> Windsurfer619, 404 error mean that document not found giving path
[17:15] <blow_me_away> wlan is not being shown in the network programm thingy, what do i do? (macbook)
[17:15] <Doku> holy mackrel, I've never seen a channel so populated!
[17:15] <miickee> He what
[17:15] <miickee> *Hey what's up?
[17:16] <gyroscope> you should try another urls
[17:16] <Windsurfer619> gyroscope: I _know_ that. How do I get apache to point towards phpmyadmin? It's not detailed in the help.
[17:16] <miickee> Sup guys?
[17:16] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, okay
[17:16] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG done and gedit closed ?
[17:16] <JennyG> yes
[17:16] <Dominik> kou: It gives me out an error in console which says: "dmloader: IDirectMusicloaderImpl_IDirectMusicloader_SetObject: could not attach stream to file"
[17:16] <pulseezar> ﻿so i've found out that i can share files from a vista machine to my ubuntu lappy using places - connect to server... and using the windows share option. This makes the shared folder appear on my desktop. Can I get ubuntu to do this automatically on startup? edit fstab or something?
[17:16] <Doku> Hi, I'm trying to install Wubi and I'm getting an error, something about not finding "vmlinuz", could someone help me?
[17:17] <miickee> Wubi is shit mate, don't bother
[17:17] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG > sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:17] <Gnea> !language | miickee
[17:17] <gyroscope> Windsurfer619, tell me, where was extracted phpmyadmin tarball?
[17:17] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG > iwconfig
[17:17] <miickee> Ok it;s cool.
[17:17] <hellcattrav> Hiya
[17:17] <blow_me_away> wlan is not being shown in the network programm thingy, what do i do? (macbook)
[17:17] <Doku> miickee: but I don't hve any partitions to spare :<
[17:17] <Windsurfer619> gyroscope: I told you, I followed the instructions. I just apt-get installed it
[17:18] <hellcattrav> Hey in synaptics, I have just installed from the live cd but how do I get the latest kde?
[17:18] <Gnea> !wubi | Doku
[17:18] <miickee> Well then it might be a good idea.
[17:18] <miickee> But it could also be a bad idea is in my experience of it.
[17:18] <miickee> Ubuntu 7.1
[17:18] <miickee> *?
[17:18] <gyroscope> Windsurfer619, we need to know it, because you should extract it your public directory or base apache home
[17:18] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8 okay
[17:19] <Doku> Gnea: Thanks, it'll check it out
[17:19] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿jennyG > iwconfig
[17:19] <Windsurfer619> gyroscope: Well, where does apt put it?
[17:19] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, okay
[17:19] <blow_me_away> why does nobody want to help meh :/ ?
[17:19] <gyroscope> Windsurfer619, apt-get don't show it, maybe you can find it via console
[17:19] <Abe1> ﻿i am having a trouble with my usb memory card reader... I tried to copy some files the first time it went well but the second time it told me read only system why???
[17:19] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿jennyG anything ?
[17:19] <Gnea> !patience | blow_me_away
[17:19] <Tarrence> Hi
[17:20] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, access point: invalid, signal level: 0
[17:20] <gfather> guys when the installer needs root , how can i fix that ?
[17:20] <Gnea> gfather: such as when?
[17:20] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿jennyG back to Network Tools. tell me if you see wlan0 and wmaster0 in there now ?
[17:20] <Windsurfer619> gyroscope: Okay, it's in /usr/share/phpmyadmin.
[17:21] <gyroscope> Windsurfer619, try that with superprivileges, "find / -type d -name phpmyadmin*"
[17:21] <shane_> hello im looking to learn C++ on ubuntu 8.04 and i was wondering which compiler would be best to learn on
 like i just installed the codec pack
[17:21] <SNuxoll> J-_: no
[17:21] <mneptok> shane_: gcc
[17:21] <SNuxoll> bah, wrong room..
[17:21] <bonez44> how would I change my resolution? I only show 800x 600 or 640 x 480.. yet, when I first installed ubuntu 8.0.4 it was displaying at 1280 x 1024.. but now, those choices are not available.
[17:21] <Starnestommy> shane_: g++
[17:21] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, lo, eth0, and eth0:avahi
with the add/remove programs
[17:21] <miickee> 8.04 is old mate, upgrade please
 it stopped to say that it needs root like when its 70 %
[17:21] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG well, the ethernet will work :/
[17:22] <JennyG> lol
[17:22] <shane_> are gcc and g++ command line only?
[17:22] <Gnea> gfather: did it ever ask you for a password?
[17:22] <Pici> shane_: yes
[17:22] <SNuxoll> shane_: yes
[17:22] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿jennyG give a me a min maybe i can think of whats going on
[17:22] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, k, lol
[17:22] <Starnestommy> shane_: yes, but some graphical IDEs like eclipse or anjuta can work with it
[17:22] <gyroscope> Windsurfer619, ok now you must try to moving it
[17:22] <Dominik> kou: any ideas?
[17:22] <Abe1> ﻿i am having a trouble with my usb memory card reader... I tried to copy some files the first time it went well but the second time it told me read only system why???
[17:22] <gfather> <Gnea no
[17:23] <gyroscope> Windsurfer619, mv /usr/share/phpmyadmin ${HOME}/public_html
[17:23] <Windsurfer619> gyroscope: Are you serious? I'm supposed to move the installed file? What about future updates and apts database of installed updates?
[17:23] <Gnea> gfather: that's weird. what codecs did you install and from where?
[17:23] <shane_> what are the benefits to a graphical IDE
[17:23] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8: I do remember reading in a few places that mine was particularly troublesome, lol
[17:23] <Pici> !ot | shane_
[17:23] <hellcattrav> Ok have found fix to my problem
 and it it always do that
[17:23] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG model  ?
[17:23] <gfather> whenever i want to install something from the add/remove
[17:23] <shane_> i see
[17:24] <Pici> shane_: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:24] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8: BCM4318
[17:24] <Gnea> gfather: have you tried installing it from synaptic?
[17:24] <gyroscope> Windsurfer619, phpmyadmin is script and it's has simple directory structures, if you need update it, don't problem
[17:24] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG it may need ndiswrapper, that in which i have little experience with. it allows you to use the microsoft driver within linux environment
[17:24] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG ok i will see
[17:24] <shane_> thanks for your help everyone
 but whay it does that ,
[17:24] <Gnea> gfather: and i don't mean by clicking on add/remove programs, but from administration->synaptic
[17:25] <gfather> i want to normally add/remove programs
[17:25] <gyroscope> Windsurfer619, have you a home directory for http access?
[17:25] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8: I tried to do that, but I couldn't figure out what to do at all
[17:25] <gfather> i dont want to use sympatic always
[17:25] <histo> Having trouble installing virtualbox it won't compile the kernel module its saying it can't find my kernel source in the log. I have the headers installed.
[17:25] <Windsurfer619> gyroscope: Well, yeah. Why?
[17:25] <Gnea> gfather: that's not what i asked.
[17:25] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG fortunate i didnt have to . but i will see what i can do
[17:25] <Abe1> ﻿i am having a trouble with my usb memory card reader... I tried to copy some files the first time it went well but the second time it told me read only system why???
 i think ii can install it from admin
[17:26] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, if you can't, I'm glad you've helped me this much, lol Atleast I wouldn't be the only one who couldn't figure it out
[17:26] <Gnea> gfather: yes, please try that and see if it works that way
[17:26] <alraune> Abel: automount ?
 where i can find a log , to show u whats the error
[17:26] <gyroscope> Windsurfer619, ok move your phpmyadmin directory to there
[17:26] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG lol , i try my hardest.
[17:26] <Gnea> gfather: open up a terminal and try to install it with apt-get
[17:26] <td123> Abe1: did you cut the files the second time, instead of copying?
[17:27] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8: Curse my luck, lol
[17:28] <Abe1> td123 no even if i try to delete a file i can't
[17:28] <mbiker> unop: why would I want to use prevu over going down the adding repositories path?
[17:28] <bassinboywk> what is the icon in the systray that allows for wireless network selection? It died and i need to restart it.
[17:28] <td123> Abe1: well then the usb drive is mounted as ro
[17:29] <td123> Abe1: umount, then mount it again as rw
[17:29] <Abe1> how to unmount and mount?
[17:29] <Abe1> td123 as root?
[17:29] <unop> mbiker, it's not advisable adding the intrepid binary repos to a hardy install - a mixed system like this could severly break things and you might not have ABI on hardy with a package built for intrepid
[17:29] <mneptok> bassinboywk: sudo killall NetworkManager && sudo NetworkManager &
[17:29] <Abe1> td123 how to mount as root?
[17:29] <td123> Abe1: make sure that there is no read-only switch on your flashcard, kind of like the read only pin on a floppy :P
[17:30] <mbiker> unop: that works
[17:30] <Abe1> td123 there isn't
[17:30] <svh> how do i get rid of files in the trash that tell me i  don't have permission to trash them
[17:30] <td123> Abe1: then ya, umount and mount it (using sudo command)
[17:30] <bassinboywk> thanks mneptok
[17:30] <unop> svh, sudo rm ~/.local/share/trash/filename
[17:31] <Abe1> td123 can u tell me how ? i never used it as command line
[17:31] <unop> svh, actually.  sudo rm ~/.local/share/Trash/filename
[17:31] <remoteCTR1> any apache skill0rs arround? i wont get help in the apache channel
[17:31] <mbiker> unop: Y/N:   You can have APT use the packages built by prevu by adding this to /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:31] <mehul_yadav> I can't seem to write to my ntfs partitions.
[17:32] <histo> Anyone have virtualbox installed on hardy? I'm getting errors when its trying to compile the kernel module saying that it can't find the source
[17:32] <anthony> remoteCTR1: Ask your question and find out.
[17:32] <Johnny> im in awesome and i need a reminder for every wednesday
[17:32] <mehul_yadav> !ntfs
[17:32] <unop> mbiker, is that something you are asking me?  or is that some message you are encountering?
[17:32] <remoteCTR1> anthony:well then here we go
[17:32] <Johnny> what do i need?
[17:32] <anthony> remoteCTR1: Also, did you know that you seem to be joined twice?
[17:32] <mbiker> unop: it was a question prevu is asking Y/N to
[17:32] <svh> thank you
[17:32] <Abe1> td123 how to use mount?
[17:33] <unop> mbiker, hmm, i'm not sure - i would say no to this if this is the only package from intrepid that needs backporting
[17:33] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG by the way what distro of linux ? hardy ?
[17:33] <mehul_yadav> The enable write support for internal device is grayed out in NTFS config.  How do I enable it?
[17:33] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8: Yeah
[17:33] <td123> Abe1: mount /dev/sd(some letter and number, typically b1) (folder location)
[17:33] <remoteCTR1> i'd like to accomplish that a link that looks like http://somedomain:8080/dk looks like http://somedomain, so i implemeted modules mod_proxy_http and mod_proxy_html. the reverse proxy works just fine but whenever i click a link the :8080/dk is back
[17:34] <ManualOverDozer8> anyone know if feisty wifi drivers will work in hardy ?
[17:34] <remoteCTR1> anthony: that is because my pc at home is online too, i am aware of that, thanks
[17:34] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿BCM4318
[17:34] <unop> remoteCTR1, you probably need mod_rewrite there
[17:34] <mbiker> unop: if I understand the question... it is allowing apt to use a local repo versus a remote
[17:35] <unop> mbiker, i'd say it was local though i can't say for sure just from that one line.
[17:35] <remoteCTR1> unop: i had a view on that one but that does something different wich wont fit my purposes..
[17:35] <mbiker> unop:  deb file:/var/cache/prevu/hardy-debs ./ is the one below it
[17:35] <unop> mbiker, yea, it's a local repo then
[17:36] <unop> remoteCTR1, well, from what you are describing mod_rewrite seems to fit the job
[17:36] <mbiker> unop: so a Y would be ok then... going for it :)
[17:36] <unop> mbiker, ok :)
[17:36] <remoteCTR1> unop: there was a reason why it wouldnt work with that one, if i only could recall it:D gimme a sec
[17:38] <Abe1> anyone knows how to unmount?
[17:38] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG this says that it will support your wireless card, but it needs to be compiled, let me see if i can find a DEB file for you
[17:38] <ManualOverDozer8> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download
[17:38] <ks3> Abe1, umount?
[17:38] <Abe1> ks3 yeah why?
[17:38] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, okay
[17:38] <ks3> Abe1, Are you having a problem with it?
[17:39] <mudit> i m looking for a port scanner for ubuntu
[17:39] <thibs> hi
[17:39] <cdj26> is it possible to change the grid colors in nautilus list view???
[17:39] <ks3> mudit, nmap
[17:39] <pulseezar> how can i restart samba from the terminal?
[17:39] <kappaccino> yup nmap is pretty much what everyone uses for linux
[17:40] <thibs> am I on the right channel to ask a question about building an .deb ?
[17:40] <Abe1> ks3 actually i dunno how to unmount or mount my problem is that i am can't write or delete files from my cellphone memory card using usb memory card reader so td123 told me to unmount then mount as root so can u help me?
[17:40] <JulioNeto> I'm trying to use this site: http://www.languageguide.org/txt/common/fr/ ; but I can't hear anything. The player just don't work. Anybody could open this site and see if it works?
[17:40] <mudit> ty guys
[17:41] <ks3> Abe1, Did it show up on your desktop when you plugged it in?
[17:41] <anthony> pulseezar: sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart
[17:41] <abbe1> hello everyone
[17:41] <pulseezar> anthony: thanks
[17:41] <Abe1> yeah
[17:41] <mudit> nmap has no gui !
[17:41] <Abe1> ks3 yeah
[17:41] <abbe1> I am having problem with my sound in youtube and other sites
[17:41] <ks3> mudit, Yes it does - zenmap
[17:42] <cdj26> abbe1, if you have any other media player open, then flash wont play audio
[17:42] <Abe1> ks3!
[17:42] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG i may have found something for you
[17:42] <ks3> Abe1, from a terminal window, run 'mount'
[17:42] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, okay?
[17:42] <abbe1> cdj26, well, i only open firefox
[17:42] <yao_ziyuan> i want a linux game similar to MechCommander (real-time tactics battle by mech warriors)
[17:42] <cdj26> no idea then, sorry
[17:42] <ks3> Abe1, That will show what is mounted, where it's mounted, and other useful info
[17:42] <abbe1> i ran mount
[17:43] <abbe1> ks3, what should i look for ?
[17:43] <Abe1> ks3 yeah then?
[17:43] <guren> anyone know if there are any better desktop eyecandy system monitors other than screenlets, gdesklets, or gkrell??
[17:43] <ks3> Abed, Something along the lines of /media/disk
[17:43] <ks3> Abed, Looking to see if it has (ro) after it
[17:43] <abbe1> cdj26, i don't have anything open
[17:44] <abbe1> only firefox at the time
[17:44] <Abed> ks3 /media/Memory card after it type vfat(rw,nosuid ---------
[17:44] <jovo> yea i still can't install java...i tried the synaptics package manager, i found java, i installed it, and it's still not working...is there a way to use sudo instead?
[17:44] <ks3> Abed, So it's mounted read-write... what error were you getting when you tried to delete files?
[17:45] <Abed> i dunno it tells read only system
[17:45] <abbe1> I have sound in movie player and real player, however, when i go to youtube there is no sound,
[17:45] <Abed> ks3 it tells me read only system
[17:45] <JulioNeto> abbe1, it is a alsa problem or a flash plugin problem
[17:45] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG got it
[17:45] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, Okay?
[17:46] <JulioNeto> probably a Alsa problem
[17:46] <abbe1> julioNeto, I believe it is a flash plugin problem
[17:46] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG for Hardy > http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/bcm43xx-fwcutter    direct download link is > http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/i386/bcm43xx-fwcutter/download
[17:46] <ks3> Abed, Is the memory card set to read only? There's usually a switch on the card for that.
[17:46] <JulioNeto> abbe1, why do you think it?
[17:46] <Abed> ks3 i will check it out now thnx gtg
[17:46] <garuhhh> hi! can i get directions on how to solve hibernate problems of 8.04? primarily the sound stuffs... thanks!
[17:47] <abbe1> JulioNeto, because i can download youtube video to my box, and watch with no problem, however, when i am in firefox
[17:47] <abbe1> it does not have sound
[17:47] <JulioNeto> abbe1, hunmmm
[17:47] <abbe1> JulioNeto, so i think, the problem have to be around firefox
[17:47] <Plumer222> hi
[17:48] <Plumer222> hi
[17:48] <Plumer222> hi
[17:48] <FloodBot1> Plumer222: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:48] <JulioNeto> So with .flv plugin it works. But with flash plugin don't
[17:48] <JulioNeto> *dosen't
[17:48] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG you have that ? i forget to ask if you had amd64 or i386 distro
[17:48] <JennyG> Ummm
[17:48] <krazy-h> Hello to everybody :D
[17:48] <Plumer222> does anybody here play adventure quest
[17:48] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, The i one
[17:48] <ManualOverDozer8> ok
[17:48] <Plumer222> or clubpenguin
[17:48] <abbe1> JulioNeto, I don't know if i correctly install flash flugin
[17:48] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG have you downloaded that ?
[17:49] <Xorlev> Is there an easy way to install Ubuntu on a pre-existing software RAID? With Gentoo it was just a matter of loading up a livecd, mounting the software RAIDs, and extracting the stage3 into the root partition.
[17:49] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, yeah
[17:50] <ManualOverDozer8> you know where the file is now right ?
[17:50] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, I've got it open on ubuntu
[17:50] <ManualOverDozer8> double click it and install it
[17:50] <abbe1> JulioNeto, i also downloaded Xine plugin
[17:50] <ManualOverDozer8> will ask for gDebi
[17:50] <JulioNeto> abbe1, Xine?
[17:50] <Xorlev> I have the Ubuntu LiveCD loaded up and have my RAID running, but I don't see where I can tell ubiquity to just install it to the RAID instead of partitioning :\
[17:50] <abbe1> JulioNeto, it was working fine when i put ubuntu, now i install alot of progs and ...
[17:51] <abbe1> Julio, yes
[17:51] <JulioNeto> ah
[17:51] <JulioNeto> abbe1, remove it, so
[17:51] <JennyG> um
[17:51] <abbe1> how can i remove it
[17:51] <JennyG> "configuring bcmblahbalh"
[17:51] <JennyG> "Fetch and extract firmware?"
[17:51] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG ﻿jennyG  yup
[17:51] <abbe1> julioNeto, apt-get ??
[17:52] <JulioNeto> abbe1, positive
[17:52] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, click the check?
[17:52] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿jennyG  thos files are nice the do everythign pretty much all by themselves
[17:52] <JennyG> or, check box I mean
[17:52] <abbe1> JulioNeto, I have the plugin for firefox
[17:52] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿jennyG  check ? in Network Manager ?
[17:52] <abbe1> JulioNeto, it is not installed
[17:52] <JulioNeto> abbe1, so?
[17:52] <robf> ok we've got ubuntu installed as a guest in vmwares on a windows machine (new employee,  not linux saavy but wants to learn without being fully immersed or some such)   anyhow,  can't get X to work,  install vm ware mouse / video packages,  and vmware toolkit,    still no dice,  any howtos?  googling finds to much about using vmware from ubuntu,  and not what I need help with
[17:52] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, no this Configuring bcmblah window
[17:53] <abbe1> JulioNeto, i will have to disable it from firefox
[17:53] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG not sure what you are asking
[17:53] <JennyG> there's a check box and it says fetch and extra firmware. Check it and then forward?
[17:53] <JennyG> extract
[17:53] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG yes to everything
[17:53] <JulioNeto> BRB
[17:53] <ManualOverDozer8> jenny
[17:53] <Xorlev> robf: What does Xserver say, and what driver are you using?
[17:53] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿jennyG  when you open it, choose to open with gDebi
[17:53] <ManualOverDozer8>  if you already havent
[17:54] <robf> lemme look
[17:54] <remoteCTR1> unop: now i got the sam problem with the proy module: it just doesnt do it
[17:54] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, it says it failed
[17:54] <robf> hmmm says failed to load modules  kbd / mouse
[17:54] <robf> missing a pkg am I?
[17:54] <trojan__> m
[17:54] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿jennyG you have no internet on that machine, that may be
[17:54] <robf> never had to install X on ubuntu that didn't have it
[17:55] <robf> so dunno how they got em all split up
[17:55] <trojan__> o
[17:55] <Vegombrei> hi .. how do i check if my serial ata is a 150 or 300 ??
[17:55] <trojan__> 0
[17:55] <trojan__> 8
[17:55] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, Yeah
[17:55] <trojan__> oo
[17:55] <FloodBot1> trojan__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:55] <robf> makes me iss monolithic
[17:55] <robf> trojan__: please shut your arse.
[17:55] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, it looks like it tried to open a website
[17:55] <dargo> hi there
[17:55] <remoteCTR1> !language robf
[17:55] <jpds> !ohmy > robf
[17:56] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG only thing i can suggest on that, is hook the LAN on the laptop to your current internet connection.
[17:56] <remoteCTR1> ﻿!language | robf
[17:56] <unop> remoteCTR1, so you've got a URL say http://example.com/foo that's actually masquerading as http://example.com:8000/foo ? but when you click on a link on the page, you are returned to something like http://example.com:8000/bar ?
[17:56] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG alot of routers have ports on the back in which you can connect
[17:56] <robf> remoteCTR1: I was being family fine,  fella is the product of a donkey and a horse... yeh?
[17:56] <JennyG> hmm, I know it does
[17:56] <robf> it's dictionary well.
[17:56] <trojan__> Go to hahui mudila
[17:56] <robf> anyhow
[17:56] <JennyG> hold on
[17:56] <remoteCTR1> unop: precisely!
[17:57] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG i am lost for suggestions after that
[17:57] <jovo> can someone please help me with installing java?
[17:57] <SNuxoll> jovo: sure, what problems are you having?
[17:57] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, lol let me bring this over to the router
[17:57] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG maybe download them on your current and burn them to cd,
[17:57] <robf> jpds: yeh,  totally unintended,  #perl leaves you with a rotten mouth ;)
[17:57] <trojan__> U mena jenaaaaaaaaaaaa
[17:57] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG temp connect yes
[17:57] <trojan__> Sterva bladskayaaaaaaaaa
[17:57] <jovo> i just can't install it...something about no such file/directory
[17:57] <robf> trojan__: dude,  seriously shut up...
[17:57] <jpds> robf: I've done that.
[17:58] <SNuxoll> jovo: huh?
[17:58] <jovo> i tried using the synaptics package manager, i installed the java package there, and it didn't work
[17:58] <XStylus> Got a question...
[17:58] <jovo> so i tried using sudo, and following java's instructions
[17:58] <XStylus> How do I edit PATH manually?
[17:58] <jovo> didn't work
[17:58] <SNuxoll> jovo: let's try installing it from the command line
[17:58] <unop> remoteCTR1, use your favourite search engine to see how the mediawiki folks have gone around the problem.  they use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Url to actually pull the page of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/index.php?Url
[17:58] <robf> jpds: I don't consider what I said "bad"   hard to tell,  I mean I simply assume the rules apply as "if you can't say it on tv,  don't say it here"
[17:58] <SNuxoll> jovo: using apt
[17:58] <jovo> apt?
[17:58] <robf> but ya get the language zealots who get croaked over calling someone a teacake omg,  offense!... whatever
[17:58] <SNuxoll> jovo: advanced packaging tool
[17:58] <robf> anyhow
[17:58] <remoteCTR1> unop: i just tryed it with RewriteEngine on and RewriteRule http://domain:8080/dk/overview/ http://domain/overview/ b ut that does just nothing
[17:58] <unop> remoteCTR1, and they use mod_rewrite quite cleverly
[17:59] <robf> is X modules kbd/mouse part of some package?
[17:59] <SNuxoll> jovo: it's what synaptic uses in the background
[17:59] <khoda> Anyone using gedit with LaTeX plugin? I'm having trouble with the inverse DVI search (i.e. it doesn't work)
[17:59] <unop> remoteCTR1, you probably haven't got the rules doing exactly what you want.
[17:59] <ManualOverDozer8> SunJava6 > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/s/sun-java6/
[17:59] <SNuxoll> jovo: so, open up a terminal
[17:59] <jovo> ok
[18:00] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8: Good news. Something worked for once. It installed
[18:00] <SNuxoll> jovo: then type in sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[18:00] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG lol
[18:00] <remoteCTR1> unop: either i am blind or that doesnt work for some other reason i just dont get it, and either way, withthe proxy and rewrite rule-.-
[18:00] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG you did good
[18:00] <remoteCTR1> unop:  but i will google for what you said, thanks for the hint
[18:00] <jovo> hm..something's working
[18:00] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, I did? lol
[18:00] <jovo> but how would i know that if i never used this forum and asked people lol
[18:00] <ManualOverDozer8> jennyG yes you did
[18:00] <jovo> what if i tried to follow java's instructions?
[18:00] <shane_> anyone know of a way to restrict a certain user to login between specific hours or deny access to a program between those hours?
[18:01] <pos69sum> i have opened up port 22 using firewstarter and i tried to ssh to my ip but i get connection refused - any ideas?
[18:01] <SNuxoll> jovo: beats me :P
[18:01] <jovo> they told me to use su, and i actually tried it, but still didn't work =T
[18:01] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿jennyG  the firware may be able to be downloaded in Synaptic Package Manager , i am not sure
[18:01] <ikonia> shane_: that is possible but a massive effort
[18:01] <Xorlev> pos69sum: Is sshd running?
[18:01] <SNuxoll> jovo: I personally thing we baby users too much with synaptic
[18:01] <pos69sum> i set 'allow for everyone'
[18:01] <pos69sum> Xorlev - no do i have to install ssh?
[18:01] <score> is there a good document on ubuntu's release policy? how is it different from debian's?
[18:01] <Xorlev> .....
[18:01] <SNuxoll> jovo: apt is a very powerful tool and users should get to know it, especially if X breaks
[18:01] <Xorlev> You have to install sshd.
[18:01] <pos69sum> ah ok
[18:01] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8: ?
[18:01] <pos69sum> thanks Xorlev
[18:02] <ikonia> score: release every 6 months is the bototm line
[18:02] <jovo> yea..seems to be working a bit better than synaptics...but i dunno, we'll see if it works lol
[18:02] <ikonia> bottom line
[18:02] <Xorlev> openssh-server
[18:02] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿jennyG  just let it do its thing in most cases it will just go through
[18:02] <yao_ziyuan> i need the key to ﻿"deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main"
[18:02] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8: Okay?
[18:02] <ManualOverDozer8> double click the DEB file and open with gDebi
[18:02] <yao_ziyuan> without the key, downloads are not secure
[18:02] <remoteCTR1> unop: btw, why dont you just gimme the link? *g*
[18:02] <XStylus> Got a (hopefully) simple question for anyone who can answer it: How do I permanently add a directory to $PATH for all users?
[18:02] <SNuxoll> yao_ziyuan: you don't need the key
[18:02] <Vegombrei> hi .. how do i check if my serial ata is a 150 or 300 ??
[18:03] <score> ikonia: i'm talking about when a release is marked 'stable' there still seems to be a lot of changes
[18:03] <ikonia> score: no there isn't
[18:03] <Flannel> score: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[18:03] <ikonia> score: there are just updates
[18:03] <SNuxoll> yao_ziyuan: without the key, you can't verify the person that made the packages is really that person, that's all
[18:03] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿jennyG  it doesnt show any depends that you already should have
[18:03] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8: Which deb? The one we were just playing with?
[18:03] <score> ikonia: security updates or major fixes only?
[18:03] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿jennyG  yes the BCMxx Cutter
[18:03] <yao_ziyuan> SNuxoll: that matters very much because i'm in china
[18:03] <ikonia> score: security,minor,major,version updates
[18:04] <ikonia> yao_ziyuan: why does china matter in terms of keys ?
[18:04] <SNuxoll> yao_ziyuan: launchpad PPA's don't support proper signing, so even if you had the key it still wouldn't be able to verify it
[18:04] <ikonia> yao_ziyuan: its the same for any country
[18:04] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8: Okay, it's open
[18:04] <khoda> anyone use gedit and LaTeX plugin?
[18:04] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿jennyG  running ?
[18:04] <jovo> SNuxoll, how do i press ok in the configuring sun-java6-bin screen xD...i tried enter, i tried space, esc, f1, mouse click...nothing?
[18:04] <yao_ziyuan> ikonia: for example, all known software in china have government backdoors
[18:04] <SNuxoll> jovo: you have to press tab to select the OK button
[18:04] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, Um, the creen for where you click install is up
[18:04] <SNuxoll> jovo: THEN hit enter to trigger it
[18:05] <jovo> ahhhhhhhh LOL thanks
[18:05] <JennyG> window
[18:05] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿jennyG yup install
[18:05] <ikonia> yao_ziyuan: so ? as long as you are using an official ubuntu repo you should be fine, if you can't verify it with a key then it's your decision to run a risk of a middle man in between
[18:05] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8 Reinstall?
[18:05] <Vegombrei> how do i see the device manager in ubuntu ? need to check some hardware
[18:05] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿jennyG  sure
[18:05] <svh> can anyone till me how to get rid of files in trash that it tells me i don't have permission
[18:05] <ikonia> svh: use "sudo"
[18:05] <ManualOverDozer8> ﻿jennyG  that way you are sure you have all of what you need, just incase somethign was missing
[18:05] <unop> remoteCTR1, heh.  http://tinyurl.com/56mqyu
[18:06] <yao_ziyuan> ikonia: maybe i'd use a proxy with my adept-manager for keyless repositories
[18:06] <ikonia> yao_ziyuan: thats your decision if you chose to risk that
[18:06] <svh> how do i get to sudo
[18:06] <robf> svh: go to a shell
[18:06] <ikonia> svh: it's already installed, type "sudo rm -rf $path_to_files_to_delete"
[18:06] <robf> type sudo <command>
[18:07] <jovo> Snuxoll: yea actually it's still not working =_=...java i mean
[18:07] <robf> svh: and ignore ikonia thats rather unsafe
[18:07] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, well, I reinstalled and there was no problems
[18:07] <ikonia> robf: no it's not
[18:07] <robf> sudo <command>   or sudo -i (for interactive shell)
[18:07] <jovo> i closed firefox and reopened and tried to open a page with a java applet, and it's still not loading
[18:07] <jovo> says i don't have it
[18:07] <robf> is there an Xorg meta package
[18:07] <robf> eg installs all the crap
[18:08] <newair> how do you start clamav in terminal
[18:08] <robf> like a monolithic standin,  cos man installing manually all these packages is retarded.
[18:08] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, so now what?
[18:08] <slasher> lol
[18:08] <db92> i already have the ubuntu partition and a partition with vista x64. if i reinstall vista as it always f's up as is expected, will the bootloader get replaced by the one vista has?
[18:08] <rytis> hello. how to transfer files from ftp to VPS (via ssh)?
[18:08] <ikonia> db92: yes
[18:08] <Vegombrei> hi .. how do i check if my serial ata is a 150 or 300 ??
[18:08] <th0r> newair, you don't start it really...you can call clamav to scan a file or directory and report, or call freshclam to update the antivirus database
[18:08] <zvacet> svh : trash is stored in ./local/share/Trash
[18:09] <th0r> newair, if you want a gui install tkclam
[18:09] <db92> ikonia, and how do i restore it?
[18:09] <ikonia> !grub > db92
[18:09] <th0r> newair, oops...clamtk
[18:09] <mzuverink> where does xorg place the resolution ranges for displays?  I thought it use to be in the xorg.conf file, and that by running "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" you could set the upper and lower values for display, now in hardy it does not do that, the dpkg-reconfigure dialogue ends well before those options are offered, where are those options now offered?
[18:09] <ikonia> mzuverink: it's dynamic now, so it's stored in memory
[18:09] <ikonia> mzuverink: you can hardcode it into your xorg.conf
[18:09] <newair> thor, thank  you
[18:10] <th0r> newair, and a little brain block...it is clamscan to scan a file or directory
[18:10] <zvacet> db92 : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&highlight=reinstall+grub
[18:10] <robf> anyone?
[18:10] <robf> like a monolithic standin,  cos man installing manually all these packages is retarded.
[18:10] <newair> thor , thank you for those to commands
[18:10] <mzuverink> ikonia, thanks
[18:11] <robf> is there an Xorg meta package that mimics a monolithic install,  cos I'm manually installing like 50 pkgs,  and would prefer a meta
[18:11] <mbiker> unop: worked through a couple dependency issues and got the system running apache 2.2.9.  Cool part is that the site was down for about 1s :)
[18:11] <Fidel_> What is ubuntu's server 8.4 minumum hardware requirement ?
[18:11] <esh_> having an issue installing 8.04.1 server
[18:11] <SNuxoll> ugh, silly ISP
[18:11] <theshadow> is there a reason I can't run "!!" or "sudo !!" zsh says !! doesn't exist.
[18:11] <esh_> says there's not kernel modules on disc
[18:11] <selcuk> do you know speak turkish
[18:11] <esh_> and wont let install continue
[18:12] <SNuxoll> jovo: did you have any issues while I was gone?
[18:12] <Flannel> !tr | selcuk
[18:13] <Flannel> Fidel_: What do you have?
[18:13] <zvacet> theshadow : did you get any errors when you type sudo and press enter
[18:13] <alraune> ﻿ esh_: apt-get install linux-ubuntu-modules-$(uname -r)
[18:13] <theshadow> zvacet: no
[18:13] <theshadow> zvacet: sudo works fine
[18:13] <bonez44> how do I boost my screen resolution in 8.0.4 LTS?
[18:13] <theshadow> just all the !!, !$, et. al. don't work
[18:14] <zvacet> theshadow : sorry
[18:14] <esh_> alraune, where do i enter that? how do i get to command line from install?
[18:14] <alraune> ﻿ esh_: you are in install ?
[18:14] <mbiker> unop: so thank you very much for the help!  now the question will be... does the problem go away
[18:14] <esh_> i am at first screen where I choose from menu
[18:15] <Fidel_> a celeron 420 @1500
[18:15] <alraune> ﻿ esh_:(NICK!) : you try to install from cd to what a machine ?
[18:15] <Flannel> Fidel_: You're fine
[18:16] <Fidel_> thanks
[18:16] <esh_> yes from iso i just burned
[18:17] <richo> Haven't had internet for 3 months. and now when running update manager it suggested like 100 updates. BUT alot of them it said it "can't be AUTHENTICATED"  So what to do?
[18:17] <alraune> ﻿ esh_         NICK!  :           checked cd for defects /  to what a machine ?
[18:17] <richo> btw: 7.10
[18:17] <richo>                 - the Gutsy Gibbon
[18:17] <esh_> checking now....p3 1.2ghz w/512mb ram
[18:18] <simard> I added a windows manager to my ubuntu install, but at the moment I start it using a ~/.xinitrc file containing the name of the binary of this WM. I would like instead of having the choice at login prompt of X, how can I add it to the list ?
[18:18] <alraune> richo: using hardy ?
[18:18] <richo> alraune: no gutsy gibbon
[18:18] <unop> mbiker, I guess you'll have to find out .. fingers crossed :)
[18:18] <Scorp_> hey, i had installed the MAC look for ubuntu recently, but now when i change the look, the title bar still remains the same.. How can I remove that look ???
[18:18] <alraune> ﻿ esh_ : please type my NICK when answering , as otherwise i loose your messages
[18:18] <scrutr> text looks beautiful now :)
[18:19] <esh_> sorry forgot
[18:19] <JennyG> ManualOverDozer8, have I lost you? lol
[18:19] <esh_> alraune, i mean sorry
[18:19] <alraune> ﻿ esh_ : checked the media for defects ?
[18:19] <scrutr> also i like how after i installed the glx-new it detected my ptimum resolution and i didnt have to manually edit that config file
[18:20] <richo> alraune: so isn't it good to use Gutsy or what? is it safe to continue even though i get this warning?
[18:20] <esh_> alraune, i did but it said it wasnt a valid ubuntu cd, though it has to be to even get to installer menu. rebooted
[18:20] <esh_> alraune, yeah says same thing again
[18:21] <alraune> richo: the prob might be that keys have changedin beetween
[18:21] <mattelacchiato> hi
[18:21] <caffinated> has anyone had issues with a recent update downgrading gcc?
[18:21] <Scorp_> exit
[18:21] <richo> alraune: hmm yes and how is that going to affect my system or what?
[18:21] <mattelacchiato> i've wrote my own udev-rule to run automatically a script. this script should mount the device. but it doesn't work
[18:21] <alraune> richo: try to figure out adept-manager  >software sources
[18:22] <esh_> alraune, i cant eject the disc now
[18:22] <richo> alraune: k
[18:22] <mattelacchiato> the command "mount /media/Backup" works, if i execute it by hand
[18:22] <alraune> ﻿ esh_ : seems you have a bad cd
[18:22] <mattelacchiato> but not insede the bash-script
[18:22] <esh_> alraune, gonna reburn but the drive im using doesnt always work correctly
[18:23] <esh_> ill report bakc in a few
[18:23] <alraune> ﻿ esh_ : first, check the downloaded iso file with md5
[18:23] <alraune> ﻿ esh_ : what burn-prog are u using ?
[18:23] <alraune> ﻿ esh_ : decrease burn speed
[18:24] <richo> alraune: could it be wise to upgrade to hardy first?
[18:24] <alraune> richo: easiest, possibly
[18:24] <yggdrasil> can somone tell me what the "super" key is for compiz in hardy ?
[18:24] <richo> alraune: k
[18:25] <alraune> richo: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade                       , before check sources.list
[18:26] <kuja_> Uuh, what do you do when you accidentally chmod root to 644
[18:26] <kuja_> like so:  chmod 0644 /
[18:26] <kuja_> what can you do to fix this :S
[18:26] <Stargazer> I'm getting this error: http://paste.stirk.org/33550 from Virtualbox-ose but supposedly i have the right stuff installed
[18:26] <Pici> kuja_: with -r ?
[18:27] <kuja_> Pici
[18:27] <kuja_> no
[18:27] <Pici> kuja_: I think you can just set it back then
[18:27] <esh_> alraune, ok will check md5 and i use nero
[18:27] <kuja_> Pici doesn't work :S
[18:27] <kuja_> perm denied
[18:28] <alraune> ﻿ esh_ : decrease burn speed
[18:28] <kuja_> to ANYTHING
[18:28] <kuja_> any file
[18:28] <FloodBot1> kuja_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:28] <alraune> ﻿ esh_ : nero > burn iso to disc
[18:28] <malsyned> Is there a way to set up Ubuntu (esp. server) to run a shell script when a CD is inserted?
[18:28] <esh_> alraune, ok
[18:28] <simard> kuja_, cant do sudo chmod 655 / ?
[18:28] <alraune> kuja : ?
[18:29] <kuja_> simard: Doesn't let me, because sudo is inaccessible... just like any other file.
[18:29] <simard> boot with a livecd
[18:29] <simard> and do it from there
[18:29] <kuja_> sudo gets run as the current user, remember :S
[18:29] <kuja_> errr... crap
[18:29] <bonez44> how does one change one's screen resolution?
[18:29] <alraune> kuja : sudo gedit                or      chown >file<   >user<
[18:29] <yacc> kuja_, well, sudo gets run suid root. :-P
[18:30] <Stargazer> I'm getting this error: http://paste.stirk.org/33550 from Virtualbox-ose but supposedly i have the right stuff installed
[18:30] <simard> yacc, yeah but arent all programs, along sudo and chmod, under / ?
[18:30] <yacc> simard, yes ;)
[18:32] <shadowimmage> hello everyone! I have a question about gdebi package installer. I opened a package, and got an error about a dependency not being "satisfiable" what does that mean??
[18:32] <simard> shadowimmage, means you did it too much
[18:33] <kuja_> Okay
[18:33] <shadowimmage> simard: yeah, um, some real help please?
[18:33] <Pici> shadowimmage: It means that the package requires something that it cannot find.
[18:33] <kuja_> The guy at the DC says he's getting a "revalidation error" and some err 5 crap, and Ubuntu server keeps rebooting by itself afterwards
[18:33] <kuja_> Anyone heard of this?
[18:33] <simard> kuja_, this shouldnt be too hard to do, you just have to mount the partition from the livecd
[18:33] <kuja_> We don't have a LiveCD at the moment.
[18:34] <Jeruvy> sorry for the dumb question, but does anyone know what windows clients could connect to a hylafax server?
[18:34] <sosriqwe> shadowimmage, it means, the package you are trying to install depends on another package, which is not installed..
[18:34] <shadowimmage> Pici: I looked for the package that it wants in synaptic, and couldn't find it, what do I do then?
[18:34] <nixnoob> shadowimmage: thats why it couldnt fix it itself.
[18:34] <Greyscale> Does anyone have any good backgrounds that merge from one screen to another when Compiz cube uses them?
[18:34] <Pici> shadowimmage: What are you trying to install and what is it looking for?
[18:34] <nixnoob> shadowimmage: what are you trying to install and what is the dependency?
[18:35] <nixnoob> Pici: jinx
[18:35] <alraune> ﻿shadowimmage, ... for usual its named, install it first....
[18:35] <Pici> nixnoob: :)
[18:35] <shadowimmage> the package is Flight Gear, a flight simulator, and it wants libopenal1
[18:36] <pothibo> Hi, I want to set up dnsmasq on my server properly so my router does only the routing and my server does all the DNS and DHCP work ... /etc/resolv.conf has nameserver 192.168.0.1(router) and nameserver 192.168.0.101(server) Now.. I think I need to get DHCP working with my server.. what port I need to open on my firewall so the DHCP is done through my server and not with my router ?
[18:36] <kuja_> simard: Got another idea? :(
[18:36] <nixnoob> shadowimmage: i found it in the repos
[18:37] <simard> kuja_, well, not really, but what computer are you talking from
[18:37] <slammed87d21_> does anyone know how to run ubuntu on an acer aspire 4720z and have everything work right?
[18:37] <nixnoob> shadowimmage: apt-cache search libopenal
[18:37] <kuja_> simard: err, what do you mean?
[18:37] <kuja_> btw, does 644 mean root can execute the files at the very least?
[18:37] <shadowimmage> nixnoob: thanks, found it. :)
[18:38] <shadowimmage> thanks to everyone else too!
[18:38] <rafa_> hey can someone help me with some compiz problems?
[18:38] <nixnoob> Can you freeze your own bean count on the forums?
[18:38] <gyroscope> rafa_,  what's your problem
[18:38] <alraune> !ask
[18:38] <nixnoob> rafa_: what problems you need to ask the question not a metaquestion
[18:38] <esh_> alraune, still happening. i installed xubunut a while back and had to set all_generic_ide to get it to install. could this be more of the same?
[18:39] <pothibo> Hi, I want to set up dnsmasq on my server properly so my router does only the routing and my server does all the DNS and DHCP work ... /etc/resolv.conf has nameserver 192.168.0.1(router) and nameserver 192.168.0.101(server) Now.. I think I need to get DHCP working with my server.. what port I need to open on my firewall so the DHCP is done through my server and not with my router ?
[18:39] <rafa_> im running compiz 0.7.6 and i wanted to install some extra plugins but when i go to make it, it tells me that compiz is not installed =S
[18:39] <bonez44> Is this thing on? hello?
[18:39] <alraune> esh_: if youre not even able to run the cd-check, its definetly something wrong with cd and/or drive
[18:39] <nixnoob> rafa_: you need the svn version to use the new plugins
[18:39] <blue__> pothibo: would disabling DHCP on your router not be a good start?
[18:40] <rafa_> nixnoob: how do i get that? via git?
[18:40] <simard> kuja_, doesnt seem so, the X right is needed to get info from files it contains
[18:40] <gyroscope> rafa_, it's look a version problem
[18:40] <nixnoob> rafa_: there are instructions on the ubuntuforums
[18:40] <pothibo> any one is versatile with DNS ?
[18:40] <geirha> rafa_: if you need to compile something against compiz' libs, you need its development package. Try installing compiz-dev
[18:40] <blue__> pothibo: i think all the traffic would have to go through your pc for it to use DHCP
[18:40] <datacrusher> guys
[18:40] <kuja_> simard: So... this is not fixable in single-user mode?
[18:40] <Scorp_> hey, how do i use metacity instead of emerald ?? i've removed it from sessions menu so that it doesnt startup automatically, but that doesnt help still..
[18:40] <datacrusher> i just runned testparm to check my samba config
[18:41] <alraune> esh_: if I got you right, you burned another cd, having the same prob ?
[18:41] <nixnoob> Scorp_: metacity --replace
[18:41] <datacrusher> it return me an error, but didnt told me which lit it is
[18:41] <rafa_> gyroscope: i dont think so because im running 0.7.6 and my other linux box is running 0.7.4 and they install just fine
[18:41] <datacrusher> can i send a log of it
[18:41] <simard> kuja_, I dont think so..
[18:41] <geirha> Scorp_: uninstall emerald
[18:41] <bonez44> how do I change my resolution? It HAS run at 1280x1024.. but now, only 800x600 and 640x480 are showing as options
[18:41] <simard> kuja_, whats the problem getting a livecd ?
[18:41] <Scorp_> nixnoob: I did that, but thats temporary... What is a permanent solution ???
[18:41] <esh_> alraune, yes, same thing. it must be drive then.
[18:41] <Scorp_> geirha: If i do that, then compiz wont work i guess....
[18:41] <geirha> !pastebin | datacrusher
[18:41] <blue__> anyone know a good way to 'tidy' an ubuntu installation, i installed an uninstalled a load of stuff and there are files left behind
[18:41] <nixnoob> Scorp_: look in the compiz options window decoration....
[18:42] <Seiko> Hello from Vietnam
[18:42] <Guest56533> hi there Seiko
[18:42] <nixnoob> Scorp_: or you could put metacity --replace in sessions
[18:42] <SeveredCross> blue__: dpkg -l | grep rc | cut -d ' ' -f2 | xargs apt-get purge might work.
[18:42] <Scorp_> nixnoob: ohh ya... gotcha... thanks.. that wud do it..
[18:42] <alraune> esh_: or the burner, test iton another machine : check cd for defects...
[18:42] <Scorp_> thanks
[18:42] <SeveredCross> I'd check the output first though, I'm not sure if I got the cut comand right.
[18:42] <gyroscope> rafa_, i haven't more idea, maybe you can serv more information about that problem
[18:42] <datacrusher> geirha: after it says processing section "[homes
[18:42] <geirha> Scorp_: when compiz starts up, it looks for emerald, and uses it if it finds it. If it doesn't find it, it will use the gtk-themer instead
[18:42] <blue__> SeveredCross: thanks mate
[18:42] <SeveredCross> Actually...Sorry, that should be dpkg -l | grep ^rc | cut -d ' ' -f2
[18:42] <alraune> bonez44: /etc/xorg.conf
[18:42] <rafa_> geirha: thanks, ur advice solved my problem
[18:42] <datacrusher> params.c:Section() - badly formed line in configuration file: ]
[18:43] <SeveredCross> Check the output to make sure all of the packages there have "rc" in the first column.
[18:43] <nixnoob> rafa_: just warning you the plugins wont work
[18:43] <nixnoob> rafa_: not without the svn version
[18:43] <shah_> hi all, i hav installed a plugin called (mozilla mplayer plugin for firefox) after installing it sound is heard on speaker on mother board, how to disable that plugin???
[18:43] <phaverkamp> Does anyone know the performance requirments of KDE 4.1 vs. Gnome?
[18:44] <yell0w> hello Seiko :)
[18:44] <nixnoob> phaverkamp: about the same.
[18:44] <geirha> datacrusher: it doesn't show you the line-number?
[18:44] <rafa_> nixnoob: thanx ill look into that
[18:44] <gyroscope> KDE4.1 use Qt4 library and Qt4 libs more speedly vs gtk2, isn't that?
[18:45] <_gridcomputing_> >Hey I have an dapper drake and want to switch it to german. But there is only english to choose. Could I install new languages?
[18:45] <alraune> esh_:still there ?
[18:45] <esh_> alraune, yes
[18:45] <alraune> esh_:tired cd on another drive ?
[18:45] <erUSUL> _gridcomputing_: System>Admin>Language Support
[18:45] <theshadow> what is the command to check the battery's charge percentage?
[18:45] <shane_> anyone know why i cant play flash videos while world of warcraft is open, i get 2 seconds of video then it stops
[18:46] <alraune> esh_:tried cd on another drive ?
[18:46] <th0r> shah_, go to Tools-Addons in firefox and you can disable the plugins from there
[18:46] <phaverkamp> nixnoob: I use xfce right now(Gnome works fine), because my laptop is older.  I want to try KDE 4.1
[18:46] <bonez44> alraune: ok...
[18:46] <nixnoob> phaverkamp: kde will use alot more resources than xfce
[18:46] <gnumm> phaverkamp: for the moment kde4 uses much more memory
[18:46] <phaverkamp> nixnoob: As does gnome...
[18:47] <nixnoob> phaverkamp: yes
[18:47] <esh_> alraune, no i havent. i will do it later. i have an old cdrom somehwere that should work. its funny, i coulnt install windows with the old one, had to use the faulty one and now have to use old one to install linux. i think i remember having to do the same to get xubuntu to install
[18:47] <nixnoob> phaverkamp: in comparison to kde and gnome xfce is very light
[18:47] <alraune> esh_:first figure out if its the cd or the drive...
[18:47] <gnumm> kde4 needs more memory then gnome for the moment
[18:48] <phaverkamp> nixnoob: Understood, thats why Im using xfce, but my general impression of KDE is the heaviest, and was wondering if 4.1 was not quite as bad
[18:48] <_gridcomputing_> erUSUL: Thet menue does not exist, because it is an Ulteo Virtual Desktop
[18:48] <esh_> alraune, ok. be back, need to boot with this machine.
[18:48] <nixnoob> phaverkamp: i would recommend not using kde4 at all and sticking with kde3, kde4 is still basically a beta.
[18:48] <bonez44> alraune: I run this scott@scott-ubuntu-compaq:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[18:48] <_gridcomputing_> erUSUL: But I have Language Options (KDE) but there is only english to choose
[18:49] <nixnoob> phaverkamp: but then again I use gnome so what do i kno.
[18:49] <justs0me> is there a better program for getting files though GUI besides Adept manager, more like yumex but for debian files?
[18:49] <phaverkamp> nixnoob: I agree, I dont even like 3.5 but 4.1 supposedly has gotten better
[18:49] <cyphase> why are home folders by default set to be readable by anyone?
[18:49] <alraune> bonez44: paste your /etc/xorg.conf
[18:49] <blue__> justs0me: could try synaptic package manager but i prefer the one u have
[18:50] <bonez44> alraune: I have no /etc/xorg.conf, but I do have /etc/X11/xorg.conf   will THAT work?
[18:50] <demetris> What is the command to remove completely the EngyNG for graphics ?
[18:50] <blue__> bonez44: lol
[18:50] <th0r> cyphase, it had to default to something. You can always change it by changing the umask value
[18:50] <gyroscope> cyphase, your home folder readable for only root
[18:50] <anthony> cyphase: For easier sharing between home users, apparently.  I would have preferred the opposite personally, but it is "by design".
[18:50] <alraune> bonez44: yup, sry
[18:50] <ice109> so here i am again, able to access irc but not able to browse the web
[18:50] <bonez44> blue__: hit your funny bone, did I?
[18:50] <cyphase> th0r: i know it has to be something, but why not only readable by the owner?
[18:50] <nixnoob> phaverkamp: i wouldn't know, I prefer gnome and I haven't even seen kde4 in action but I've heard mixed opinions and the devs admit that it lacks features from kde3 and is still "in development" for th emost part.
[18:50] <ice109> can someone help?
[18:50] <cyphase> gyroscope: not by default
[18:51] <ice109> one of my browsers says "error reading from socket"
[18:51] <th0r> cyphase, because then someone would be asking why doesn't it default to readable by all
[18:51] <anthony> cyphase: (I checked with the developers on this subject already, btw.)
[18:51] <gyroscope> cyphase, which distro?
[18:51] <cyphase> gyroscope: the one that's the irc channel is named after ;)
[18:51] <trigpin> ice109, have you tried opera , firefox ?
[18:51] <blue__> ice109: sounds like a dns problem to me
[18:52] <arthur> kde4 is ok but gnome is better in my opinion
[18:52] <ice109> i've tried firefox and links2
[18:52] <cyphase> th0r: well, someone could ask why people need passwords by default too :)
[18:52] <Seiko> Volume Applet 2.22.2 can not control volume at all. hic hic
[18:52] <Seiko> Any help
[18:52] <ice109> blue__: how do i fix it?
[18:52] <alraune> bonez44: paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:52] <gnumm> i use kde3, but i like kde4 much more then gnome...
[18:52] <pasteeater> libx264 in the repo is 7 months old. Is it just following Debian's release schedule?
[18:52] <_gridcomputing_> I could choose country or region: Germany, but in Add language there is only English
[18:53] <nixnoob> gnumm: its all a matter of opinion, but the fact that kde4 is missing some important stuff that kde3 has is a fact.
[18:53] <pasteeater> or debian's update schedule that is
[18:53] <arthur> kde4 looks cooler!
[18:53] <gnumm> nixnoob: right, i just answered another opinion ;)
[18:53] <gyroscope> gnumm, kde4.1 looks like great than gnome, you must try that :)
[18:53] <blue__> ice109: system->admin->network->dnd(tab)->unlock(button), then add the IP of your router
[18:53] <bonez44> alraune: http://pastebin.ca/1088665
[18:54] <gnumm> gyroscope: gnome is cool when you need a vintage style desktop...:P
[18:54] <ice109> blue__: i'm in xubuntu so how do i do that from terminal
[18:54] <arthur> i use all 3 xfce,kde4 and gnome....
[18:54] <Pici> pasteeater: Ubuntu is not a rolling release like Debian is.  For the most part, package versions remain the same during the entire release (feisty,hardy,etc)
[18:54] <blue__> ice109: i have no idea man, if i was you id take a look through the menu's an see if u can find somethign similar
[18:54] <ice109> well actually i did
[18:54] <ice109> and i did it
[18:55] <gyroscope> kde4.1 is most cool when you need customization give you powerfull choices
[18:55] <pasteeater> Pici: so libx264 is only usually updated once per Ubuntu release?
[18:55] <blue__> ice109: any luck?
[18:55] <ice109> nope
[18:55] <ice109> still get the same error
[18:55] <nixnoob> pasteeater: unless they find a showstopper bug yea
[18:55] <frank95com> hi
[18:55] <blue__> ice109: was your routers IP address alredy there? or did you not find the option?
[18:55] <phaverkamp> gyroscope: How is 4.1? I found 4.0 to be lacking polish
[18:55] <alraune> bonez44: what a kind of monitor do u use ?
[18:55] <Pici> pasteeater: Unless theres a security bug or someone files a backport.
[18:55] <ice109> no i put the routers ip in there
[18:56] <pasteeater> nixnoob, Pici: I see.  thanks.
[18:56] <blue__> ice109: maybe try a restart then?
[18:56] <ice109> nah that never does anything
[18:56] <gyroscope> phaverkamp, don't look back :D
[18:56] <gnumm> kde 4.1 is much better then kde 4.0
[18:56] <ice109> can anyone help me, i can obviously be on irc but i can't browse the web
[18:56] <gnumm> but there are still missing features
[18:56] <ice109> links2 gives me a "can't read socket" error
[18:57] <nixnoob> ice109: can you ping google.com
[18:57] <ice109> yes
[18:57] <phaverkamp> gnumm: Well that settles it, I will try it in a VM or a live cd but I wont install if on a reg machien
[18:57] <gnumm> phaverkamp: no prob
[18:57] <nixnoob> ice109: what browser are you using?
[18:57] <ice109> nixnoob: i can telnet on port 80 too
[18:57] <ice109> i have 2 firefox and links2
[18:57] <Shishire> What's a good program to find a string in one of 6,000 files which could be in any of several hundred folders?
[18:57] <saavyone> can I install 32bit ubuntu on x86_64?
[18:57] <gyroscope> phaverkamp, you can't get performance on livecd
[18:58] <gnumm> yes
[18:58] <blue__> saavyone: yes
[18:58] <alraune> ice109: did you try to reinstall ff ?
[18:58] <nixnoob> ice109: hmm do you have a router?
[18:58] <ice109> nixnoob: yes
[18:58] <nixnoob> ice109: proxy ?
[18:58] <saavyone> how?
[18:58] <nezza-_-> hi guys. i'm looking for an ubuntu iso-image which got kernel 2.6.24-16.. i need this kernel cause of special hardware drivers..
[18:58] <ice109> no
[18:58] <nezza-_-> has anybody got a link?
[18:58] <nixnoob> ice109: reset your router to its default settings?
[18:58] <ice109> nixnoob: i can't even access my routers admin page
[18:59] <bonez44> alraune: my monitor is Sylvania F93.. crt...
[18:59] <nixnoob> ice109: tcp may be blocked on port 80....
[18:59] <alraune> ﻿ nezza-_: use the general, then use kernelcheck (google)
[18:59] <ice109> nixnoob: my computer is the only one on the entire network that doesn't work
[18:59] <phaverkamp> gyroscope: Thats true, but i need to see if I even like it before testing performance
[18:59] <blue__> nezza-_-: could be worth looking for a torrent of it
[18:59] <ice109> nixnoob: the thing is sometimes it works
[19:00] <esh_> alraune, cd is fine, drive is problem.
[19:00] <nezza-_-> blue__: yeah.. but there is no kernelinfo on the torrent. i'm actually trying fone
[19:00] <awag> i just installed ubuntu on two machines, i setup some samba shares via natuilus, one machine can see the other machine on the network, but not vice versa
[19:00] <gyroscope> phaverkamp, you're right, try and see
[19:00] <Shishire> I'm looking for a regex program, any suggestions?
[19:00] <nixnoob> ice109: your ip may have been blocked or you may have set a rule for your ip thats stops tcp on port 80 at certain times of day...
[19:00] <alraune> bonez44: paste ur /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:00] <blue__> nezza-_-: ah i see
[19:00] <gyroscope> ice109, try off and on your modem
[19:00] <NisseHult> Hi, is this were you can get some help with your ubuntu?
[19:00] <Spencerical> mother goose is a duck
[19:00] <alraune> esh_: maybe use the burner for install then..
[19:00] <cdj26> any way to change the color of the "grid" in nautilus list view????
[19:01] <trigpin> NisseHult, yep
[19:01] <NisseHult> great
[19:01] <saavyone> blue__: how? i have x64 install disc and it never gave me an option. Do I need to download x86 iso?
[19:01] <Shishire> I'm looking for a regex program, any suggestions?
[19:01] <histo> Spencerical: yeah /topic
[19:02] <Seiko> Volume Applet 2.22.2 can not control volume
[19:02] <Seiko> ﻿Volume Applet 2.22.2 can not control volume
[19:02] <Seiko> Please help me
[19:02] <cdj26> Dont flood
[19:02] <histo> Seiko: is that an error you or getting or are you saying that the volume contol isn't working?
[19:02] <blue__> saavyone: its a different disc for 32bit and 64bit
[19:03] <blue__> saavyone: you nee dot download the 32bit version
[19:03] <gnumm> nezza-_-: download the ubuntu 8.04 iso, the default kernel is 2.6.24-16
[19:03] <pulseezar> ﻿so i've found out that i can share files from a vista machine to my ubuntu lappy using places - connect to server... and using the windows share option. This makes the shared folder appear on my desktop. Can I get ubuntu to do this automatically on startup? edit fstab or something?
[19:03]  * blue__ apologises for my typing :P
[19:03] <nezza-_-> gnumm: no, it;s not.
[19:03] <Seiko> ﻿the volume contol isn't working?
[19:03] <gnumm> nezza-_-: it is
[19:03] <nezza-_-> gnumm: just tried that, it is 2.6.24-19
[19:04] <cdj26> pulseezar, im sure you can, just dont know how
[19:04] <histo> !sound > Seiko
[19:04] <gnumm> nezza-_-: then you updatet your system
[19:04] <Shishire> Anybody know of a good regex program I can use?
[19:04] <NisseHult> For the last 6 hours I've been trying to install Ubuntu and finally I've gotten it to start but of course I have problems, so far I've only discoverd two. First one is that it seems like the package manager won't update, it lists only 1132 packages and 1100 is installed, the second is that I cant install the nvidia drivers, it sais when I try to enable the device that nvidia-glx is not enabled
[19:04] <nezza-_-> gnumm: i bootet from cd without network connection.
[19:04] <saavyone> blue__: thx, I'll try that +1 karma
[19:04] <gnumm> nezza-_-: a fresh ubuntu 8.04 installation without updates has 2.6.24-16
[19:04] <NisseHult> So how do I solve those two things?
[19:04] <alraune> bonez44: paste ur /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:04] <gyroscope> Shishire, you can be use perl
[19:04] <histo> NisseHult: do you have internet on this maching?
[19:04] <NisseHult> Yes
[19:04] <nezza-_-> gnumm: okay.. but the live cd is running 2.6.24-19?
[19:04] <gnumm> nezza-_-: ah, i guess you downloaded 8.04.1?
[19:04] <histo> NisseHult: then open a terminal and sudo aptitude update
[19:05] <NisseHult> Wireless and working
[19:05] <Shishire> gyroscope: yes, but is there any sort of GUI?
[19:05] <histo> nezza-_-: yeahthats an update
[19:05] <nezza-_-> gnumm: ah okay,, this could be.  i just downloaded the latest image from ubuntu.,com
[19:05] <gyroscope> Shishire, hmm i don't know that, but perl is fair enough for regex
[19:05] <histo> NisseHult: once that is done downloading lists of packages that have changed. sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[19:05] <nezza-_-> gnumm: will try 8.04 thank you!~
[19:06] <gnumm> nezza-_-: you need 8.04, not 8.04.1, i see if i find the iso on the ubuntu server
[19:06] <alraune> ﻿NisseHult: Wireless and working , sources.list, update and upgrade
[19:06] <ncls> hi, how can i connect to a wlan on startup? (macbook, ndiswrapper)
[19:07] <NisseHult> Okay thanks guys
[19:07] <Shishire> gyroscope: because I need to search for the string '<base' which could be in any of over 6,000 files in several hundred folders
[19:07] <Nillerz> How do I install Opera?
[19:07] <nezza-_-> gnumm: mh i can only find 8.04.1.. even in the 8.04 directories
[19:07] <bonez44> alraune: http://pastebin.ca/1088680
[19:07] <nezza-_-> Nillerz: goto opera.com
[19:08] <Nillerz> I already downloaded the .deb
[19:08] <Seveas> Shishire, grep -r ?
[19:08] <Nillerz> I just got fluxbuntu today
[19:08] <gnumm> nezza-_-: yes, me too :/
[19:08] <Seveas> Nillerz, gdebi opera*.deb
[19:08] <alraune> bonez44: I will check it, brb in 10 min
[19:08] <bonez44> ok... thanks
[19:08] <gyroscope> Shishire, hmm looks like difficultly, usually can be able several bash scripts in the unix-based oses, but i don't know any gui
[19:09] <Nillerz> wait, seveas, what?
[19:09] <blue___> how do i empty the recycle bin as root?
[19:09] <nezza-_-> gnumm: this is relaly crap -_-
[19:09] <_gridcomputing_> OK the ü,ö,ä only do not work in the bash
[19:10] <nezza-_-> gnumm: ah got one!
[19:10] <Nillerz> If you delete the recycle bin do you cause a black hole?
[19:10] <blue___> nezza-_-: what'd i miss?
[19:10] <nezza-_-> gnumm: http://ubuntu.univ-nantes.fr/ubuntu-cd/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
[19:10] <NisseHult> histo sudo aptitude update didn't work, It couldn't get get lock, Unable to lock the administration directory and Couldn't rebuild package....upgrade didn't work neither
[19:10] <nezza-_-> blue___: got a soultion.. i have to use 8.04 instead of 8.04.1
[19:10] <blue___> NisseHult: do you have another package manager running?
[19:10] <ncls> i managed to get wlan and sound to work on a macbook, how about some applause for me?
[19:10] <nezza-_-> blue___: but its hard to find a 8.04 image
[19:11] <gnumm> nezza-_-: congratulations :)
[19:11] <blue___> nezza-_-: ah cool
[19:11] <NisseHult> Maybe should have said that the version is 7.10, 8.04 didn't work....
[19:11]  * blue___ applauds, now you have a use for your mac :P
[19:11] <NisseHult> blue___ I have synaptic package manager in the background
[19:12] <blue___> NisseHult: you can only run one package manager at a time
[19:12] <NisseHult> Tried that now, worked :)
[19:12] <blue___> NisseHult: awesome
[19:13] <unop> blue___, sudo rm ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[19:13] <blue___> unop: thankyou :D
[19:14] <blue___> unop: it took -r aswell, i had the psp toolchain in there, thousands of files :P thankyou!
[19:14] <gnumm> what is a OEM installation?
[19:14] <NisseHult> Updated and upgraded, still 1100 out of 1132 packages is installed, no differense :/ . Maybe there's only 1132 available packages and that nothing is wrong :S
[19:14] <Seiko> I can not adjust volume with Volume Applet :(
[19:14] <pulseezar> ﻿so i've found out that i can share files from a vista machine to my ubuntu lappy using places - connect to server... and using the windows share option. This makes the shared folder appear on my desktop. Can I get ubuntu to do this automatically on startup? edit fstab or something?
[19:14] <blue___> gnumm: probably a non graphical installer
[19:14] <gnumm> when the user type his name etc.. after the installation?
[19:15] <blue___> NisseHult: what are yo utrying to do?
[19:15] <blue___> gnumm: yeah like what dell would install on thier pc's
[19:15] <unop> pulseezar, sure.  place an entry for the remote share in /etc/fstab
[19:16] <NisseHult> I am trying to get my nvidia card running, which requires drivers that should be available from the package manager
[19:17] <blue___> ahh maybe you need ot enable restricted repositories?
[19:17] <pulseezar> unop: how can I do that for a folder on another computer?
[19:17] <blue___> NisseHult:  ahh maybe you need ot enable restricted repositories?
[19:17] <unop> pulseezar, something like this.   //server/share /home/user/Desktop cifs username=user,password=password 0 0
[19:18] <pulseezar> ok i'll give that a try unop, thanks
[19:20] <alraune> bonez44: there ?
[19:20] <unop> pulseezar, though, you might not want to have the username and password in there as everyone can read /etc/fstab .. you can use a credentials file that is only readable by root.  see the smbmount/mount.cifs manpage
[19:20] <NisseHult> blue___ restricted repositories is enabled
[19:21] <unop> pulseezar, and make the second param.  /home/user/Desktop/sharename  instead
[19:21] <unop> pulseezar, or the entire desktop is mounted on the remote share
[19:22] <bonez44> alraune: yes, I am huere..
[19:22] <alraune> bonez44: open a terminal
[19:22] <bonez44> ok..
[19:22] <pulseezar> unop: haha thanks.
[19:23] <pulseezar> how can everybody see fstab?
[19:23] <blue___> open it in a text editor
[19:23] <alraune> bonez44: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.backup
[19:23] <unop> pulseezar,  cat /etc/fstab  # as a normal user
[19:23] <foug> how do i disable automounting of usb flash drives?
[19:23] <alraune> bonez44: http://pastebin.ca/1088690
[19:23] <wok> hi guys. i made a mistake in installing a flashplugin 10 .deb, which crashes my whole system :( How can i tell it to install flashplugin9 again?
[19:23] <bonez44> alraune: ok, that's done
[19:24] <alraune> bonez44: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:24] <alraune> bonez44: in the paste you 'll find new xorg, change it, saveit, close it
[19:24] <bonez44> ready
[19:24] <DIFH-iceroot> is the eeePC (4GB) runniong out of the box with (k)ubuntu 8.04?
[19:24] <bonez44> ok....
[19:24] <ubotu> DIFH-iceroot: it comes with xandros but you can easily install ubuntu
[19:25] <malsyned> Arg!  how do I tell in userspace that a CD has been inserted?
[19:25] <ikonia> wok: remove the deb package, use "purge" and then install the flashplugin-nonfree package from the stable repo
[19:25] <cdavis> If I get checking for GLIB - version >= 2.2.0... no    while building amanda what package do I probably need?
[19:25] <DIFH-iceroot> ubotu: that was not my question
[19:25] <bonez44> alraune: so essentially, it's the monitor section that needs to be updated in my xorg.conf, right?
[19:25] <NisseHult> blue___ You were right restricted repositories were the problem, just took some time for the pc to get it ;)
[19:25] <NisseHult> once again thanks
[19:25] <DIFH-iceroot> ubotu: u was using eeeXbuntu for my eeePC but eeeXbuntu was not very good
[19:26] <alraune> bonez44: yup
[19:26] <wok> ikonia: purge? what/where would i find that..
[19:26] <blue___> NisseHult: yey
[19:26] <DIFH-iceroot> ubotu: so suspend to disk/ram, no visualisation for the function-keys
[19:26] <datacrusher> people
[19:26] <pulseezar> unop: once i've changed fstab how do i mount the folder?
[19:26] <datacrusher> i just installed a samba server
[19:26] <ikonia> wok: where did you install flash 10 deb from ?
[19:26] <datacrusher> configured the group and so on
[19:26] <geirha> pulseezar: sudo mount mountpoint
[19:26] <alraune> bonez44: at :  /etc/init.d/gdm restart     you'll be logged off, be ready for that, see you back then....
[19:26] <marcules> hi
[19:26] <unop> pulseezar, make sure that folder exists. make it if it doesn't.  then.  mount -a
[19:26] <unop> pulseezar, err.  sudo mount -a
[19:26] <wok> ikonia, http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/flashplugin-nonfree
[19:27] <wok> thought it would have been safe todo so from a ubuntu repo :/
[19:27] <bonez44> alraune: then I assume, I need to reboot.... to make the changes take effect or can I just source it or something else?
[19:27] <bonez44> ok...
[19:27] <ikonia> wok: are you running intreipd
[19:27] <alraune> bonez44: at :no reboot, just     /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[19:27] <bonez44> ok.. back soon
[19:27] <Johnny> how would i get cron to do a zenity notification every wedensday?
[19:27] <bonez44> thanks
[19:28] <ikonia> wok: intrepid sorry
[19:28] <wok> ikonia, thats the mistake i made :p its just the standard ubuntu release
[19:28] <pulseezar> thanks
[19:28] <wok> 8.04
[19:28] <olie> Hi, Im having some problems with playing movies. I get horizontal flickery especially in fast moving sections. I have found a few forum posts the people with the same problems but none of the solutions worked. Im not using Compiz. The only thing that works is setting "Option	"TexturedVideo" "off"" in xorg.conf but then the movie get pixely instead. Does anyone know what might fix this ?
[19:28] <ikonia> wok: don't lie - it wasn't a mistake, you just wanted flash 10 and thought it would work
[19:28] <ubotu> Johnny: set the DISPLAY variable in the crontab and make an appropriate entry
[19:28] <alraune> olie: what hardware ?
[19:29] <Johnny> not in gnome
[19:29] <Johnny> im in awesome
[19:29] <wok> ikonia, yes i do need flash 10, but didnt realise the intrepid until after id installed it without checking :/
[19:29] <ubotu> something like this: 00 11 * * 3 zenity
[19:29] <ikonia> wok: so you need to do a dpkg -l | grep flash to get the package name, then a dpkg -r $package name to remove it
[19:29] <ikonia> wok: you didn't realise it was intrepid, even though it says it clearly in the url you got it from
[19:29] <Johnny> how do i do that from the cli ubotu
[19:29] <ubotu> Johnny: crontab -e
[19:29] <olie> alraune: Ati  Radeon X1950, Amd 64
[19:30] <Greyscale> Gedit is annoying the piss out of me telling me the file changed on disk. Its on a remote server, but it has not changed. There is no way to ignore these warnings. Solutions, #ubuntu?
[19:30] <wok> ikonia, im not here to be interigated. thanks for your help though, will give it a try now
[19:30] <unop> cdavis,  libglib2.0-dev probably
[19:30] <ubotu> Greyscale: don't change the file on disk ;)
[19:30] <alraune> olie: so its not too slow for movies, lol,  driver correctly installed ?
[19:30] <Greyscale> Its not!
[19:30] <Greyscale> Its just on a remote file server!
[19:30] <Greyscale> Well. remote my ass. Its about 3 feet away on another desk.
[19:30] <olie> alraune, Ati catalyst 8.51.3 latest i could find last week at ati homepage
[19:31] <ubotu> Greyscale: gedit has more problems with that, use a different editor :)
[19:31] <acrousey> hi, is there anyone here that would be able to help me walkthrough so that I can tether an older computer which is running ubuntu from my mac laptop? it's mac osx tiger
[19:31] <Greyscale> gedit works fine except for that bloody annoying warning
[19:31] <alraune> olie: what player do u use ?
[19:31] <Johnny> ubottu, # m h  dom mon dow   command
[19:31] <Johnny> 00 11 * *       3      zenity --notification=GET READY
[19:31] <ubotu> Greyscale: try saving a file over smbfs
[19:31] <Johnny> ubotu, thats really confusing
[19:31] <Greyscale> ubotu, it is over smbfs
[19:31] <ubotu> Johnny: quote the GET READY and set the DISPLAY variable
[19:32] <olie> alraune, I have tried VLC, MPlayer and Totem with different video output but all give the same result
[19:32] <Johnny> can i test it?
[19:32] <dergheh> how can i install xine
[19:32] <alraune> olie: monitor set up properly ?
[19:32] <wok> ikonia, how do I do the purge part you mentioned?
[19:32] <ikonia> wok: -P
[19:33] <geirha> Johnny: Yes, set it to start in 2-3 minutes. What's your time?
[19:33] <Carpe|Diem> Is there any program available to make in image of my ubuntu 8.04? Something like Acronis TrueImage or NortonGhost...does anyone know?:)
[19:33] <Johnny> 12:33
[19:33] <alraune>  wok: apt-get remove --purge    <paketname>
[19:33] <soundray> !info partimage | Carpe|Diem
[19:34] <alraune> ﻿Carpe|Diem:google clonezilla
[19:34] <cdavis> unop, that was it, thanks
[19:34] <geirha> Johnny: 37 12 * * *  DISPLAY=0:0 zenity --notification --text="hello"
[19:34] <geirha> Johnny: should make it pop up at 12:37
[19:34] <olie> alraune, hmm... no :) just some standard things under "Section "Screen"" in xorg.conf. Do i need drivers or just specification like refresh rates and such ?
[19:34] <Carpe|Diem> ok thanks alraune and soundray
[19:35] <alraune> olie: thought of the refreshrates
[19:35] <wok> alraune ikonia, got flash9 back now, thanks :D
[19:36] <soundray> olie: you can use 'gksudo displayconfig-gtk' to set up your monitor
[19:36] <olie> soundray, great thanks
[19:36] <Jessica_lilly> hi im on ubuntu gutsy live cd at the moment ive just installed the system but it came back with a grub error so i decided to open up terminal and install it my self but ive run in to difficulties and need some help
[19:37] <soundray> Jessica_lilly: you're in terminal on the live CD and trying to install grub?
[19:37] <geirha> Johnny: sorry, It should be DISPLAY=:0  not 0:0
[19:37] <Jessica_lilly> after doing "sudo grub-install --no-floppy /dev/sda" its put all the files there and when i type grub and then go to "setup (hd0)" it fails
[19:38] <Jessica_lilly> soundray: yes
[19:38] <fistandandelus> hey guys can anyone help out a newb?
[19:38] <Johnny> so ? 00 11   *   *   3      zenity --notification="GET READY" --Display=:0
[19:38] <malsyned> fistandandelus: that's what this channel's for
[19:38] <fistandandelus> thanks
[19:38] <soundray> Jessica_lilly: you need to mount your installed partition to, say, /mnt and run 'sudo grub-install --no-floppy --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda'
[19:39] <Ayabara> does memtest check the ok-ness of my hard drive?
[19:39] <fistandandelus> well, i tried editing my xorg.conf file, and hosed it
[19:39] <soundray> Ayabara: no
[19:39] <fistandandelus> so i did the auto conf
[19:39] <Johnny> like that geirha
[19:39] <fistandandelus> and it worked, but now xorg.conf is blank
[19:39] <soundray> Ayabara: it checks RAM only. For hard disk tests, look at smartmontools
[19:39] <Jessica_lilly> ive done mount -t reiserfs /dev/sda2 /mnt/root/
[19:39] <Ayabara> soundray, ok
[19:39] <geirha> Johnny: 0 11 * * 3 DISPLAY=:0 zenity --notification --text="GET READY"
[19:39] <soundray> !enter | fistandandelus
[19:39] <fistandandelus> sorry
[19:40] <Malgaur> sudo iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING 1 -i eth0 -s xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/xx -j SNAT --to 199.227.106.48       this gives me "iptables: Invalid argument"  can anyone see why?
[19:40] <Johnny> 00 11   *   *   3     DISPLAY=:0 zenity --notification="GET READY"
[19:40] <Johnny> how do i test it?
[19:40] <soundray> fistandandelus: start X without xorg.conf and run 'gksudo displayconfig-gtk' if it doesn't come up by itself
[19:40] <spsneo> I want to use dual monitor with hardy and nvidia. Which mode is better twin mode or separate X mode
[19:40] <spsneo> ?
[19:41] <soundray> Jessica_lilly: was I making sense?
[19:41] <spsneo> I want to use dual monitor with hardy and nvidia. Which mode is better twin mode or separate X mode?
[19:41] <Jessica_lilly> yes what you said made sense
[19:41] <Izbranniy> Hi tavi
[19:41] <fistandandelus> how do i start x without xorg
[19:41] <Jessica_lilly> i carnt beleve im having diffiuclty with this i just did it whilst installing gentoo a few days ago
[19:41] <Seveas> fistandandelus, xorg IS x
[19:41] <tavi> hy
[19:42] <soundray> fistandandelus: you can use 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start' or 'startx'
[19:42] <fistandandelus> so run gksudo  displayconfig-gtk
[19:42] <fistandandelus> in the terminal?
[19:42] <spsneo> I want to use dual monitor with hardy and nvidia. Which mode is better twin mode or separate X mode?
[19:42] <soundray> fistandandelus: yes
[19:42] <fistandandelus> ok
[19:43] <Izbranniy> Hi
[19:43] <Izbranniy> Hi
[19:43] <lch> 'when i type grub and then go to "setup (hd0)" it fails' -- I assume you did "sudo grub" ?
[19:43] <Izbranniy> hi
[19:43] <Gillpy_> !hi > Izbranniy
[19:43] <nixnoob> spsneo: depends, do you use compiz?
[19:43] <lch> for easier administration just do a "sudo bash" and then do whatever as root
[19:44] <soundray> Jessica_lilly: when you've done that, you don't need to do any setup step
[19:44] <soundray> !rootshell | lch
[19:44] <lch> blah
[19:44] <khoda> anyone use gedit with LaTeX plugin?
[19:45] <Evolution2> um hi, i have been having a problem with screenlets. i am trying to make the xbox live screeenlet to work but when it displays not avaiable. it says that it didnt require anything as a dependency...it worked in gutsy any ideas
[19:45] <w8tah> im trying to install libasound2-dev (so i can install some of the kde4 stuff) im getting this error: Depends: libasound2 (=1.0.15-3ubuntu4) but 1.0.16-0ubuntu0.1 is to be installed,  Now what????
[19:45] <sebrock> I have this issue with NFS: lockd: couldn't create RPC handle for and all I did was adding a new dir with the exactly same arguments in /etc/exports
[19:46] <th0r> w8tah, the problem is the dev version doesn't match the installed lib version
[19:46] <publicist> hello, I just installed ubuntu. and the monitor is stretched vertically and because of that I cannot see the bottom panel. How to fix it?
[19:46] <w8tah> th0r: ok - -so what do i do about it?
[19:46] <soundray> w8tah: first make sure your package lists are up to date: 'sudo apt-get update'
[19:46] <w8tah> soundray: done
[19:46] <fistandandelus> that was actually very helpful thanks, now i have another problem though
[19:47] <th0r> w8tah, well, from the looks of it you need to upgrade the lib and then install the dev
[19:47] <fistandandelus> any resolution, except for the one its on fails, miserably i might add
[19:47] <soundray> th0r: it seems to depend on the *older* lib, though
[19:47] <thomasc59> hi, running 7.10, under restricted i'v got "bcm43xx-fwcutter" (my wirless card) when i click on it it says The software source for the package bcm43xx-fwcutter is not enabled. Any help?
[19:47] <w8tah> soundray: th0r thats what it looks like to me also
[19:47] <MicroBot> здарова,
[19:48] <Izbranniy> MicroBot he bot
[19:48] <MicroBot> Izbranniy:
[19:48] <MicroBot> здарова,
[19:48] <Seveas> !ops | Izbranniy MicroBot
[19:48] <MicroBot> здарова,
[19:48] <FloodBot1> MicroBot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:48] <MicroBot> Seveas:
[19:48] <MicroBot> ubottu:
[19:48] <MicroBot> И
[19:48] <th0r> soundray, from the error it appears 1.0.15 (lib) is installed, but 1.0.16 (dev) is scheduled to be installled
[19:48] <Seveas> Pici, Izbranniy is its owner
[19:49] <thomasc59> hi, running 7.10, under restricted i'v got "bcm43xx-fwcutter" (my wirless card) when i click on it it says The software source for the package bcm43xx-fwcutter is not enabled. Any help?
[19:49] <alraune> bonez44 isn't coming back.. xserver crashed ?
[19:49] <th0r> w8tah, open synaptic, reload the repo lists, and then see if you can mark libasound2 for upgrade
[19:49] <Pici> Seveas: all on the same IP anyway
[19:49] <fistandandelus> anyone know how to make other resolutions work?
[19:49] <soundray> fistandandelus: you probably haven't made the best selection for screen in displayconfig-gtk
[19:50] <w8tah> th0r: the libasound2 is newer than the dev
[19:50] <soundray> th0r: the dependency is on the older lib, though, not the one that's selected for installation
[19:50] <soundray> w8tah: I suspect it's just a packaging bug. You might try another package mirror, or report a bug
[19:50] <fistandandelus> everything but 1680x1050 fails
[19:51] <w8tah> soundray: how do i do that?
[19:51] <thomasc59> hi, running 7.10, under restricted i'v got "bcm43xx-fwcutter" (my wirless card) when i click on it it says The software source for the package bcm43xx-fwcutter is not enabled. Any help?
[19:51] <w8tah> soundray: im using synaptic
[19:51] <fistandandelus> maybe these restricted drivers are not the best?
[19:51] <soundray> fistandandelus: you mean you can't select smaller resolutions?
[19:51] <ncls> hi, how's the program called with which you can configure compiz?
[19:51] <fistandandelus> i can, but when i test it, it looks awful
[19:51] <th0r> w8tah, one way or the other...if you have reloaded (updated) the repo lists youshould be able to find the 1.0.16 to upgrade the 1.0.15 (whichever it is)
[19:51] <ncls> or where can i find it?
[19:51] <nixnoob> I love daydreams.
[19:51] <w8tah> th0r: ok - thanks
[19:51] <soundray> w8tah: close synaptic and open System-Admin-Software Sources. In there, make a selection for a mirror, or the master server
[19:52] <th0r> w8tah, don't know where you got 1.0.16...both of those files arae 1.0.15 in synaptic here and I just updated my lists
[19:52] <soundray> !ccsm > ncls
[19:52] <w8tah> th0r: ok - im honestly not lying -- i really do have it
[19:52] <Ice_Wewe> can someone please help me reconfigure resolvconf to stop using 127.0.0.1 as the name server? (127.0.0.1 was set by moblock, which I have since uninstalled)
[19:53] <w8tah> soundray: im on fluxbox -- whats the applet for software sources?
[19:53] <fistandandelus> brb...i think i figured it out
[19:53] <th0r> w8tah, I believe ya....but the lib and the dev have to match...so you need to do whatever you need to do to make that happen <smile>
[19:53] <duiu> Ice_Wewe: man resolvconf
[19:53] <w8tah> th0r: i know this -- im trying to figure out what it is i need to do
[19:54] <th0r> w8tah, course...I AM running xubuntu...so maybe you have a gnome option that xfce doesn't <smile>
[19:54] <Ice_Wewe> duiu, I've done that, I still don't know the correct usage of it
[19:54] <soundray> w8tah: software-properties-gtk
[19:54] <duiu> Ice_Wewe: Do you have a GUI
[19:54] <th0r> w8tah, check in synaptic and see what version is listed for both those files.
[19:54] <pulseezar> is there a way to adjust bass/treble in ubuntu?
[19:54] <th0r> w8tah, it might be necessary to uninstall the 1.0.16 and then reinstall to get it back to 1.0.15
[19:54] <Ice_Wewe> duiu, for what, resolvconf? no. and network-admin won't let me unlock, it just keeps saying that an unexpected error has occured during authenticatoin
[19:55] <duiu> Ice_Wewe: Just a sec
[19:55] <datacrusher> chmod -R ug+rwx,o+rx-w /home/shares/H/
[19:55] <w8tah> th0r: for libasounds2 it is 1.0.16 for libasounds2-dev it is 1.0.15
[19:55] <datacrusher>  chown -R root:users /home/shares/H/
[19:55] <Dark_Shadow> hi, i want to know if i can flash my bios if i'm under ubuntu
[19:56] <datacrusher> iv made this commands, but the h folder users cant access
[19:56] <datacrusher> it askes for password
[19:56] <datacrusher> but none works
[19:56] <th0r> w8tah, is 1.0.16 the latest version of the lib also...or just the installed version
[19:56] <duiu> Ice_Wewe: Add this line in resolvconf: nameserver "192.168.0.1" where 192.168.0.1 is your nameserver
[19:56] <w8tah> th0r: its the latest
[19:56] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: no, but you can get FreeDOS or similar for running the manufacturer's DOS program.
[19:56] <Ice_Wewe> duiu, I'm looking for a more permanent fix than adding lines to /etc/resolv.conf
[19:57] <th0r> w8tah, you might have installed a deb that had that version...I would try uninstalling it and then reinstalling it....see if it doesn't go back to 1.0.15
[19:57] <Jockeo> My Centrino laptop with speedstep mostly runs at 40% of the speed even at high load. I want to runt at 100% all the time, and has enabled CPU frequency scaling. But for some reason, when I select full speed (1,87 GHz), it still runs at 40%, and the radiobutton I click on doesn't get selected. Someone has a suggestion?
[19:57] <w8tah> soundray: changing mirrors didnt help
[19:57] <th0r> w8tah, but you might have to flush the cache first...dpkg can get funny like that I think
[19:57] <Ice_Wewe> duiu, I know how to add lines to resolv.conf, however it comes with a warning that you should not edit the file directly as changes will be overwritten, I'm trying to edit using the resolvconf command so that when it does overwrite /etc/resolv.conf I get the *right* nameserver
[19:57] <w8tah> th0r: that will then break whatever package i installed
[19:58] <Jockeo> Note however that it does switch between different speeds, so some kind of governing is working.
[19:58] <th0r> w8tah, might...but I found that risk overrated in my experience
[19:59] <w8tah> th0r: how do i flush the cache?
[19:59] <th0r> w8tah, not sure...did it one time but asked here about how to do it <smile>
[19:59] <duiu> Ice_Wewe: go to the terminal and do 'sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf' and then edit it, the should fix your overwrite error
[19:59] <soundray> Jockeo: try running burnP6 from the cpuburn package (read the warnings). If that brings up your CPU to 100%, then it's fine. If it doesn't, it's probably throttling due to overheating.
[19:59] <th0r> w8tah, I would give the uninistall a shot...worst case you end up right back here where you started
[19:59] <guido> Hi guys, I'm forced to install an rpm-based framework on ubuntu, I had to install many package but I still get errors, please look at this installation-failure log... http://pastie.org/245070
[20:00] <Ice_Wewe> duiu, it doesn't.
[20:00] <bassinboywk> whats the best application suite for domain join, and active directory
[20:00] <alraune> guido: used alien ?
[20:00] <w8tah> th0r: ok -- but its trying to uninstall about 3 dozen packages
[20:00] <duiu> Ice_Wewe: are you using DHCP?
[20:00] <Ice_Wewe> duiu, no, static
[20:00] <th0r> w8tah, I wouldn't allow that....
[20:00] <w8tah> th0r: ya - im not
[20:01] <guido> alraune, no...
[20:01] <alraune> guido: as rpm isn't supported in ubu, use alien to convert it to a deb-pckage
[20:01] <Pici> guido: and even then it may not work,.
[20:01] <duiu> Ice_Wewe: hrmm, that's weird that it's being overwritten every time even with sudo.... you could try enabling DHCP and see if that fixes it
[20:01] <w8tah> th0r: found it -- tehres a force version option
[20:02] <ndumac> I want to run a srestore.py script at bootup, but it requires sudo, is it possible to run a script like this at boot without needing a password
[20:02] <Ice_Wewe> duiu, I don't want to enable DHCP
[20:02] <th0r> w8tah, there ya go.
[20:02] <olie> soundray, Hi me with the monitor again, I couldn't find my monitor in displayconfig-gtk so i choose one that sounded similar and changed the minor refresh rate differences but X won't load the correct resolution. Is there a way to create the modelines for my monitor by hand ? google can't find any either
[20:02] <alraune> guido: can't you get the tarball ?
[20:02] <Ice_Wewe> duiu, it's statically defined for a reason, so this machine always has the same IP address
[20:02] <duiu> Ice_Wewe: try DHCP, see if it fixes it, and then start working backwords
[20:03] <duiu> Ice_Wewe: it's called troubleshooting :)
[20:03] <Ice_Wewe> duiu, dhclient does NOT overwrite the bad resolv.conf
[20:03] <guido> alraune, gonna see, it isn't a simple package, is the "ltib", a development environment...
[20:03] <duiu> Ice_Wewe: copy your resolv.conf to the pastebin
[20:03] <duiu> !pastebin
[20:03] <guido> It has been tested on debian 3 and marked as unstable...
[20:03] <guido> BU
[20:04] <soundray> olie: there is, but that would be skipping ahead. I suggest you look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see if any reason is reported why Xorg discards the resolutions you want.
[20:04] <guido> But it can get installed at least, I think...
[20:04] <sebrock_> lockd: couldn't create RPC handle for XXX I cant mo9unt NFS dir, however I use exactly the same arguments as on other dirs???
[20:04] <alraune> guido: tarball is the better way, as alien sometimes files
[20:04] <Ice_Wewe> duiu, http://pastebin.com/m3c1e71dd
[20:05] <guido> alraune, you mean recompile it from source ?
[20:05] <Ice_Wewe> duiu, notice in large letters it tells you not to edit this file, but rather to use resolvconf to generate it?
[20:05] <alraune> guido: tarball=recompile is the better way, as alien sometimes fails
[20:05] <kushal1> I am installing Ubuntu 8.4.1 on a Compaq desktop with Pentium III processor, 20 gb hard disk, and 384 MB  of RAM. so far so good.
[20:06] <guido> alraune ok, thanks !
[20:06] <Ice_Wewe> duiu, yeah, that's what I'm trying to do. You've been extremely helpful in discovering what isn't the problem, now, perhaps instead of suggesting I use DHCP we can find out how to throw the right arguments at resolvconf
[20:06] <alraune> guido:but in debian no deb-package ???
[20:06] <kushal1> I am installing Ubuntu 8.4.1 on a Compaq desktop with Pentium III processor, 20 gb hard disk, and 384 MB  of RAM. so far so good. except the ethernet does not work
[20:06] <uman> Hi there everyone. IVe been having a problem with ubuntu 8.04 ever since I installed it. What happens is if im using a program that uses audio (for example vlc) and then want to have audio on another one (firefox, to watch online videos), I dont get sound on the second program... I usually get it to work after messing around and killing processes such as gnome-volume-manager, pulseaudio, mixer applet, etc. And sometimes that doesnt work and i have to close one
[20:06] <uman> of the applications that was using audio in order to get sound on the second one. Does anyone know wthe solution to this, and is this  a sort of widespread problem? THanks in advance.
[20:06] <Ice_Wewe> kushal1, what's the ethernet card?
[20:06] <Ice_Wewe> uman, use alsa instead of OSS
[20:07] <Ice_Wewe> uman, err, configure your applications to use ALSA instead of ALSA's OSS emulation layer
[20:07] <zachb> I'm having some problems with (I think) Gnome. After running for about 28-30 hours, epiphany will crash. After that, I can't start any new programs, although the ones that are already running work fine
[20:07] <duiu> Ice_Wewe:  Sorry man, I thought that by resolvconf you were actually referring to resolv.conf, I don't know anything about resolvconf it's self.
[20:07] <zachb> the CPU load & memory usage is fine, though
[20:07] <Ice_Wewe> duiu, right, well, I've read the man page, which tells me how to overwrite, delete, and supposidly add things, but there is no example command to follow, and it never seems to commit my changes
[20:07] <Yacht1> is there any way that i can rid my Powerbook G4 (running on PPC) of Linux and put Mac OS X back on there? or am i asking in the wrong place? i installed Ubuntu 8.04 but it's not as functional on a PPC laptop as it would be on, say, an Intel laptop.
[20:08] <Pici> Yacht1: Try ##mac
[20:08] <soundray> zachb: any interesting messages in $HOME/.xsession-errors ?
[20:08] <Yacht1> Pici: okay
[20:08] <Pichu0102> Hmm.
[20:08] <AaronMT> yach1, id assume you just boot with your osx install disc and follow instructions
[20:08] <Ice_Wewe> Yacht1, insert Mac OS X install disc, blow away partitions, go back to OS X
[20:08] <zachb> soundray: lets see... oh yeah, if I try restarting X11 or gdm, I can login, but I'm stuck at a blank screen w/ a cursor
[20:09] <Gillpy_> Ice_Wewe: It looks like you need to look deeper into the man page
[20:09] <soundray> zachb: how annoying... are you on hardy?
[20:09] <Ice_Wewe> Gillpy_, how deep are we talking?
[20:09] <zachb> soundray: yes
[20:09] <uman> Ice_Wewe do I have to do that to applications individually or is there somewhere i can set everything to use ASLA
[20:09] <Pichu0102> I tried to update the linux-image-etc file when the update popped up in update manager hoping it would fix the network card not detected issue, and instead it punted me into bulletproof X mode. Uh-oh.
[20:09] <kushal1> Ice_Wewe, thank you. as far as I know it is an integrated card. I am opening hardware testing to find out the exact name
[20:09] <Ice_Wewe> uman, AFAIK individually
[20:09] <Gillpy_> Ice_Wewe: we are talking the configuration files for resolvconf
[20:10] <sebrock_> what!!!! Why cant I access my nfs mounts that has the exact same setup as the working ones???
[20:10] <Pichu0102> I think I'm stick with image somethingsomething.19 until it's fixed...
[20:10] <ncls> do you guys know any mac-style dock?
[20:10] <Yacht1> Ice_Wewe: how do i remove all partitions??
[20:10] <Ice_Wewe> Gillpy_, yes, the configuration files for resolvconf point to the correct nameserver, however resolvconf seems unable to actually put that name server in /etc/resolv.conf
[20:10] <alraune> ﻿kushal1: lspci
[20:10] <soundray> zachb: I think it may be a dbus or hal-related error. It's difficult to tell without any error messages, though. Monitor .xsession-errors and /var/log/syslog
[20:11] <zachb> soundray: might conduit cause this? there's a line: "WARNING: CONDUIT MAY CRASH UNEXPECTEDLY"'
[20:11] <guido> alraune I have to correct myself... The framework is actually installed, the log comes out when i RUN the program ltib (with the --configure option or not)...
[20:11] <duiu> ncls: you could try this http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=2&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmaketecheasier.com%2Fturn-your-ubuntu-hardy-to-mac-osx-leopard%2F2008%2F07%2F23%2F&ei=OA6SSK3ALojiiAH1g8ztBg&usg=AFQjCNHET_-Mp9CpR3mjLyh0TJ5ZJdnOyA&sig2=c0f2DDktqM6T0gZ3kq1l4Q
[20:11] <soundray> zachb: don't know what conduit is
[20:11] <Ice_Wewe> Yacht1, on the Mac OS X install disk, go to File - > Disk Utility, click on your ENTIRE HARD DRIVE, go to the "Partitioning" tab (or something similar) and select one partition and go from there
[20:11] <duiu> ncls: sorry, forgot google does their link system weird
[20:11] <guido> I need some help to understand the error... http://pastie.org/245070
[20:11] <Ice_Wewe> Yacht1, if you need more hand holding then that, then I can't help you
[20:11] <soundray> zachb: you could use a virtual console for monitoring, then you don't depend on anything within gnome working
[20:11] <olie> soundray, I see that i thinks i got a virtual size of 1920x1080 but i want 1920x1200 as my resolution, i changed the virtual size from 1920x1200 to 0 0 in xorg.conf because i wanted to login, i could not see the login prompt if i didn't set it to "0 0". I get a bunch of warnings like this though "(WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x23"
[20:12] <Ice_Wewe> Gillpy_, I'll pastebin the resolvconf configuration files
[20:12] <Yacht1> Ice_Wewe: but the thing is, Ubuntu isn't even able to mount the Mac OS X volume, so I'm sort of stuck
[20:12] <zachb> soundray: right
[20:12] <RawkFish> My Evolution account does not want to start a set up wizard. This is the first time I have used this mailing system. What could be wrong??
[20:12] <Ice_Wewe> Yacht1, you want to get back into Mac OS X without wiping your hard drive?
[20:12] <elvelind> hi. is it possible to reinstall ubuntu from inside an existing ubuntu installation? ie. not reboot to a cd
[20:13] <Ice_Wewe> Yacht1, that's easy, 'sudo vi /etc/yaboot' and set the default boot device to the number associated with the Mac OS X line
[20:13] <bricker> hey
[20:13] <bricker> how do we chanve nics? lol
[20:13] <Ice_Wewe> Yacht1, if you don't have a line for macosx in your /etc/yaboot.conf, then you have a larger problem
[20:13] <Pici> bricker: /nick somethingelse
[20:13] <Odd-rationale> /nick newnick
[20:13] <Ice_Wewe> bricker, /nick DESIREDNICK
[20:13] <Yacht1> Ice_Wewe: i see, i see
[20:13] <Ice_Wewe> elvelind, no.
[20:13] <thegreatest> hahaha, thanks
[20:13] <Yacht1> Ice_Wewe: i will try that, thanks
[20:13] <thegreatest> been a while since i used irc
[20:13] <Ice_Wewe> Yacht1, good luck
[20:14] <sebrock_> is NFS ever going to be without BUGS! GOD!
[20:14] <soundray> olie: I don't think that warning is relevant -- I see it all the time in the absence of any problems
[20:14] <alraune> guido:see, paste the /home/guido/ltib/ltib-imx21ads-20070221/host_config.log
[20:14] <alraune> guido:(cli) sudo update db
[20:14] <thegreatest> hey, i got a question, can someoen help me, i have a tar.bz2 that i want to install, and i cant remember what i have to do in terminal
[20:14] <olie> soundray, anything specific i should look of in the xorg.0.log file ?
[20:15] <unop> !build > thegreatest
[20:15] <gsd> Hi all, I do have a little problem with my apache, is there someone who can help please?
[20:15] <kushal1> Ubuntu thinks it is a Digital Equipment Corporation DEC21142/43(rev41). oh, by the way, let me google lspci
[20:15] <Ice_Wewe> Gillpy_, http://pastebin.com/m71ad2b01
[20:15] <Ice_Wewe> kushal1, I've *never* heard of that before
[20:16] <soundray> olie: you don't see any messages about it discarding modes?
[20:16] <olie> soundray, it doesn't event consider the resolution i want 1920x1080 is the highest ones it lists
[20:16] <Balian_> #ubuntu-pl
[20:16] <RawkFish> Has anyone ever seen this before??
[20:16] <ncls> thanks duiu
[20:16] <guido> alraune the file you have seen is just the host_config.log
[20:16] <soundray> olie: it may be a dumb question, but does your monitor support 1920x1200?
[20:17] <Gillpy_> Ice_Wewe: those dont seem to be the resolvconf config files ....
[20:17] <Ice_Wewe> Gillpy_, they aren't, as it states in the pastebin submission, that's /etc/network/interfaces
[20:17]  * Gillpy_ is confuzzled
[20:17] <olie> soundray, yes if i use a "empty" Screen section in xorg.conf it chooses 1920x1200 :)
[20:18] <J0KeR^_> Is there any kind of network manager for the terminal?
[20:18] <J0KeR^_> Equivalent of Gnome's manager?
[20:19] <Ice_Wewe> Gillpy_, if I add nameserver 10.1.1.18 to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base I can get it to appear above nameserver 127.0.0.1, but I'd still like to know where resolvconf is getting 127.0.0.1 as a nameserver in the first place
[20:19] <soundray> RawkFish: no, but check whether you have a $HOME/.evolution, and if you do, move it out of the way and start again
[20:19] <soundray> olie: so why don't you do that?
[20:19] <guido> alraune i've downloaded the tarball and run an istalling script inside it, and now it seems to work... Thanks !
[20:19] <win_user> hi
[20:19] <olie> soundray, because then i get horizontal flickery when i play movies
[20:19] <win_user> I just installed ubuntu for the first time
[20:20] <win_user> But i can't connect to the internet
[20:21] <Gillpy_> Ice_Wewe: that's easy cat /etc/resolvconf/resolvconf.d/*  If that outputs nameserver 127.0.0.1 then problem solved
[20:21] <soundray> olie: I'm not sure, but I don't think you're addressing this problem in the right way by playing with the X setup. What video player are you using?
[20:21] <Hackerlife> hey, noob here, just installed ubuntu, need help with wifi on laptoop
[20:21] <acrousey> hey, does anyone here know a reliable mac irc channel? #mac is being kind of unresponsive
[20:21] <RawkFish> Soundray not to sound dumb but what is that and where would i find that
[20:21] <deserteagle> hello all! does anyone use tilda?
[20:21] <AcidRain> hacker
[20:21] <soundray> !wifi | Hackerlife, read this and then ask more specifically
[20:22] <win_user> can anybody help me?
[20:22] <soundray> RawkFish: .evolution is a folder in your home directory which contains evolution's configuration, mail folders etc.
[20:22] <Hackerlife> gracia ubottu, will do
[20:22] <sebrock_> Anyone can help me with stupid NFS
[20:22] <soundray> RawkFish: try 'mv ~/.evolution ~/evolution-backup', then try starting evolution again
[20:23] <olie> soundray, I have been testing VLC, MPlayer and Totem all with different video output and with the same result. The only thing that has worked is setting "Option	"TexturedVideo" "off"" in xorg.conf but then the picture gets all pixely and looks even worse then before
[20:23] <soundray> sebrock_: only if you stop insulting venerable network filesystems ;)
[20:23] <Gillpy_> win_user: you will need to give more info than  I can't connect to the internet
[20:23] <AcidRain> anyone know why when i run memtest from the live cd my comp will crash, im also having issues in vista crashing. This is a new build so im stumped. No blue screen just an immediate power off
[20:23] <gverig> I am having problems with Evolution connecting to an Exchange server. Judging from the traffic capture authentication works fine and all requests are satisfied (including BPROPFIND) but then Evolution says "Error while scanning folders- could not authenticate"... Any thoughts why or how I could debug this further?
[20:23] <soundray> olie: which driver?
[20:23] <olie> soundray, ATI Catalyst 8.51.3
[20:24] <Gillpy_> Ice_Wewe: have you found where nameserver 127.0.0.1 is coming from ?
[20:24] <shamshel> is there a way chmod a folder so it is not deletable by my user but i can still alter it's contents?
[20:24] <win_user> Gillpy: Sony Vaio, And Firefox says no connection to the internet
[20:25] <soundray> olie: sorry, I don't think I'll be able to help with your issue
[20:25] <win_user> I have a fritz box router
[20:25] <AcidRain> anyone know why when i run memtest from the live cd my comp will crash, im also having issues in vista crashing. This is a new build so im stumped. No blue screen just an immediate power off
[20:25] <olie> soundray, ok, do you know where i can go to find help with this problem ?
[20:25] <soundray> AcidRain: bad RAM
[20:25] <richo> upgraded to hardy. now i dont got "discs" in system menu. used it to control discs etc. are there no gpu disc control in hardy?
[20:26] <boran> I need help limiting memory resources for a group of users. I can't find anything that'll help me in /etc/sysctl.conf . Can anyone here help?
[20:26] <th0r> how do you disable autoupdate in hardy?
[20:26] <AcidRain> but the system runs, and all of the ram is recognized.
[20:26] <soundray> olie: I think you should ask in this channel. Do report your flickering problem first, because your X setup seems to be fine.
[20:26] <ArielMT> AcidRain: how exactly does memtest "crash"?
[20:27] <AcidRain> its running test 2 and then the comp just turns off. Vista will run fine for awhile (over 30 min) but it will do the same thing randomly
[20:27] <soundray> th0r: System-Admin-Software Sources, third tab
[20:27] <ArielMT> sounds like heat to me, though a bad stick of ram could do the trick, too
[20:27] <olie> soundray, I did and i got the response that i should try and setup my monitor correctly, well thanks anyway
[20:27] <Ice_Wewe> Gillpy_, no, 127.0.0.1 is not contained in any of those files
[20:28] <Ice_Wewe> Gillpy_, and sorry, I had to get the phone
[20:28] <soundray> AcidRain: the point of memtest86 is that it tests memory thoroughly and exposes precisely this kind of fault.
[20:28] <win_user> and i have no sound either
[20:28] <thomc> is it possible to rename an encrypted external disk?
[20:28] <th0r> soundray, thanks...I knew I had seen it somewhere. Was about to disassemble synaptic looking for it (in the wrong place)
[20:28] <cygoku> Under Nautilus, is there anyway to add more List Columns preferencies/options (such as sorting image or video by resolution (like under Windows)) ?!?!?!?
[20:28] <AcidRain> so your saying i have to return the ram
[20:29] <soundray> olie: well, I hope the detour hasn't been totally wasteful... Now at least you know that your monitor is setup fine.
[20:29] <AcidRain> dang this sucks
[20:29] <win_user> I had to come back to windows, in order to enter the inernet
[20:29] <win_user> nobody can help me?
[20:29] <soundray> AcidRain: no swearing please. Have you got more than one RAM module?
[20:29] <donwall> i just installed ubuntu onto my dell laptop. compiz was working, but i did various upgrades and installs. now it says desktop effects cannot be enabled. i tried installing xserver-xgl. this made compiz work again, but very slowly. suggestions?
[20:29] <AcidRain> yes i have 2 2 gig sticks
[20:29] <trigpin> win_user,  whats wrong ?
[20:30] <soundray> AcidRain: will it boot with just one?
[20:30] <bigmamamonk> guys what SMTP server would you recommend?
[20:30] <AcidRain> it will boot with both of them
[20:30] <ArielMT> AcidRain: what about only one of them?
[20:30] <AcidRain> yes
[20:30] <soundray> AcidRain: if you can boot with just one of them, you can find out with memtest86 which one of the two is faulty
[20:30] <Ice_Wewe> Gillpy_, ok, well since the real nameserver is inserted before 127.0.0.1 name resolution works, that's all I care about for now
[20:30] <AcidRain> so whatever stick it crashes with is the faulty one
[20:30] <Ice_Wewe> thanks, bye
[20:31] <ArielMT> AcidRain: yup
[20:31] <win_user> trigpin: I just installed ubuntu on my laptop but it can't connect to the internet. I have a sony vaio with Intel Pro Wireless
[20:31] <AcidRain> thank you
[20:31] <win_user> the hardware is recognized
[20:31] <richo> are there any tool in hardy to mount and umount discs etc like in gibbon. an gpu?
[20:31] <trigpin> win_user, you connecting via wifi i presume ?
[20:31] <RawkFish> Soundray: I deleted the .﻿evolution folder in the home directory and it will still not start the wizard
[20:31] <Balian_> #ubuntu-pl
[20:32] <win_user> trigpin it's wireless. I don't know if wifi. the router's a fritz box
[20:33] <robotman5> whats up people
[20:33] <richo> lost one disc. its in bootupseq and seems working in win but it wont mount via fstab when booting hardy now. it was working in gibbon. help plz?  disc tool seem not available in this new edition :(
[20:34] <soundray> RawkFish: strange. Can you try creating a new user, then logging in as that and see if the setup wizard starts then?
[20:34] <trigpin> win_user: http://ubuntuforums.org/ post a comment here they will help
[20:34] <soundray> !wifi | win_user, try these help pages, then ask more specifically
[20:35] <Johnny> is there a command like countdown clock like ncmpc's clock in window 6?
[20:35] <coz_> Johnny,   http://www.debianhelp.org/node/11113
[20:36] <murat8> Enter text here...hi
[20:36] <RawkFish> Soundray when you said to try this ﻿'mv ~/.evolution ~/evolution-backup' what do i actually do
[20:36] <coz_> Johnny, sorry didnt read that just pasted the link
[20:36] <coz_> Johnny, are you using screenlets by chance?
[20:36] <Johnny> im in awesome coz_
[20:36] <Johnny> why i need cli
[20:36] <soundray> RawkFish: mv is for moving/renaming
[20:36] <Johnny> no
[20:37] <coz_> Johnny, I know that screenlets has a countdown screenlet to be set to whatever dates and times you want
[20:37] <donwall> i just installed ubuntu onto my dell laptop. compiz was working, but i did various upgrades and installs. now it says desktop effects cannot be enabled. i tried installing xserver-xgl. this made compiz work again, but very slowly. suggestions?
[20:37] <SeveredCross> donwall: What sort of graphics card doe your laptop have?
[20:37] <kushal1> I quote "Ice_Wewe>	kushal1, I've *never* heard of that before" so what should I do?
[20:37] <RawkFish> Soundray so in a terminal input that text??
[20:37] <soundray> RawkFish: you open a terminal (Applications-Accessories-Terminal) and enter the command in there (everything between the 'quote' marks)
[20:37] <donwall> intel
[20:37] <loki_> ok nice my xchat work
[20:37] <zdunda> hello.. i want to use my usb keyboard in ubuntu, on my laptop.... when connected the usb kb detected (dmesg) but doesnt work... any help?
[20:38] <AcidRain> ok i have tested each stick of ram individually, and they will both cause the memtest to crash, yet the computer will boot. does this mean they are both bad? I would think that if they are bad it would be unable to run
[20:38] <soundray> RawkFish: now that you've deleted the folder it won't work, of course
[20:38] <andare> everytime i put in a dvd and try to run k9copy program in kubuntu it never ever does work it's like it frozed up or someth'n, can anyone help me out???
[20:38] <gregge> Just bought a laptop and someone here said it's possible to reject the EULA for vista
[20:38] <richo> Upgraded to Hardy from Gibbon. Now hdd2 is gone: "fsck.ext3: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/hdd2"    and since gpu tool disc not here still what to do?
[20:39] <sebrock_> LOOOL its not possible to export some dirs in latest kernel
[20:39] <soundray> gregge: it is, but you have to tread carefully to ensure that your rejection is valid, Then it'll be a fight to get the money back. Google for 'windows refund'
[20:39] <sebrock_> NFS starts to piss  me off
[20:39] <soundray> sebrock_: can you please behave professionally in here
[20:40] <jcovert> hey is it possible to get firefox to start on a remote, headless machine?  i heard i can with vnc - can somebody verify?
[20:40] <Hackerlife> ok, i think my problem is i cant seem to activate my card. i know what it is, but have not internet connection on that computer. help?
[20:40] <soundray> richo: its name will now be /dev/sdd2
[20:40] <fistandandelus> hey guys, i just hosed x....help?
[20:40] <sioux> vnc... remotise keyboard and video
[20:41] <soundray> jcovert: yes, or use X forwarding via ssh
[20:41] <zdunda>  i want to use my usb keyboard in ubuntu, on my laptop.... when connected the usb kb detected (dmesg) but doesnt work... any help? pleaseeeeee :)
[20:41] <sioux> yes
[20:41] <AcidRain> ok i have tested each stick of ram individually, and they will both cause the memtest to crash, yet the computer will boot. does this mean they are both bad? I would think that if they are bad it would be unable to run
[20:41] <jcovert> soundray:  if i do the X forwarding, then won't it open locally here?
[20:41] <gregge> soundray: Ok.. I just bought it and haven't opened it yet. I'm pretty sure vista is pre installed though.. have I not automatically agreed upon the license then?
[20:41] <sioux> but difficult to apply
[20:41] <richo> soundray: nope :(  but there are other drives in ssdX
[20:41] <richo> sdX
[20:41] <soundray> AcidRain: either they are both bad, or it's your motherboard at fault
[20:42] <donwall> jcovert: the window gui will, but it will run on the ssh server
[20:42] <AcidRain> but would it boot if they are both bad? I have an evga 750i
[20:42] <Hackerlife> how do i activate my laptops wifi broadcom card?
[20:42] <jcovert> donwall:  is there any way i can get the window gui to not?
[20:42] <th0r> AcidRain, did you test them separately in the same slot on the motherboard?
[20:42] <fistandandelus> nvidia's driver .run file built a kernel specific module and now i cant start x
[20:42] <AcidRain> hackerlife: you need to get drivers for it
[20:42] <soundray> gregge: no, I don't think so, but I'm not a lawyer and I don't know what jurisdiction you are in, anyway
[20:42] <donwall> you want to run firefox without a gui?
[20:42] <sioux> interesting... forward x
[20:43] <Hackerlife> thanks acidrain, but where do i get them for ubuuntu, cuz i have not internet on that comp!
[20:43] <richo> soundray: i can see it in bios but how to find it hardy?
[20:43] <jcovert> donwall:  yes, for QA testing of a webapp on my server that uses javascript
[20:43] <AcidRain> th0r: i tested them seperately in the same and different slots
[20:43] <JW> Help! Whenever I load up World of Warcraft my screen gets garbled and I get left with what resembles a garbled WoW login screen, when I exit WoW my desktop stays garbled, I am using Ubuntu 8.04.1, wine on a ATI Radeon card
[20:43] <jcovert> donwall:  I have a script that opens firefox, clicks some buttons, fills in some fields, and does some other things, and i want it to work on my headless remote box
[20:44] <fistandandelus> whats that command dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[20:44] <soundray> gregge: point is, they make you agree to the EULA before you can boot Windows, and they offer a refund if you don't. Document your steps (use a camera) and don't get your hopes up too much :)
[20:44] <AcidRain> hackerlife: what wireless card do your have?
[20:44] <Hackerlife> uhh,
[20:44] <sioux> but vnc pheraps is better do the same result of forwarding x don't you?
[20:44] <soundray> richo: in a terminal, 'sudo fdisk -l' will show all partitions on all known connected disks
[20:44] <donwall> jcovert: oh im not sure how you would set that up
[20:44] <juris> How can I get a file from remote computer using SSH? I can connect to my another computer using SSH an rowse to directory where is located this file. What command should I run now?
[20:44] <AcidRain> th0r: i tested them seperately in the same and different slots
[20:44] <nixnoob> juris: scp
[20:44] <sioux> juris a ftp?
[20:45] <AcidRain> yet it will still boot so could they both be bad?
[20:45] <soundray> fistandandelus: outdated
[20:45] <Hackerlife> broadcom corporation bcm94311mcg rev 01
[20:45] <th0r> sioux, x-forwarding is better in my opinion than vnc. And if you decide to go with vnc look into NX from NoMachine.com
[20:45] <nibsa1242b> soundray: gregge I tried to complain about that with my last laptop... neither M$ nor Gateway would agree to give me a refund. I guess I could have sued them, but I didn't have the time to pursue that.
[20:45] <juris> no, I can not use FTP my web server /var/www direcotory is FULL
[20:45] <soundray> juris: man scp
[20:45] <jcovert> donwall:  can i setup vnc server and open a virtual display on that box?
[20:45] <juris> OK, thanks ;)
[20:45] <AcidRain> hackerlife: i may have drivers for that as i ran into same problem one moment
[20:45] <andare> can someone help me out?
[20:45] <Hackerlife> kewl, massive thanks
[20:45] <andare> k9copy isn't work'n & i don't know why
[20:46] <sioux> thor vnc just snal hw
[20:46] <donwall> jcovert: vnc or xforwarding are only needed if you want to see the firefox gui
[20:46] <sioux> smal
[20:46] <AcidRain> can both sticks of ram be bad if the computer will boot and run?
[20:46] <richo> soundray: an sda is not mounted and 300gb. seems like my missing hdd2?
[20:46] <soundray> AcidRain: YES
[20:46] <nibsa1242b> AcidRain: Yes. Parts of the ram could be bad, and it could still boot.
[20:46] <jcovert> donwall:  i thought i could create a virtual 'fake display'  on the remote machine, where i can launch firefox process but never have to actually see it
[20:46] <JW> where can I find a good guide on installing ATI drivers for my video card?
[20:47] <th0r> sioux, vnc (or NX) will let you run the complete desktop remotely...x-forwarding will let you run individual apps.
[20:47] <Gillpy_> !ati | JW
[20:47] <andare> WTF......I CAN'T EVEN GET HELP ME IN, WHAT'S UR DAMN PROBLEM U PPL CAN'T HELP OUT SOMEONE IN NEED, WTF IS THAT ALL ABOUT!!!
[20:47] <soundray> AcidRain: I've told you, some RAM flaws you need to expose with a special tool like memtest86, or wait for them to trip your computer up at inopportune moments
[20:47] <th0r> sioux, if you are running on limited hardware, x-forwarding individual window smight be a better option
[20:47] <sioux> thor more users over one machine rigths?
[20:47] <donwall> jcovert: you could setup xwin on the headless server and just not use it
[20:47] <soundray> andare: why should we help you, if you can't bring a minimum amount of patience, and then swear at us?
[20:47] <th0r> sioux, vnc will allow many users on the same machine, yes
[20:48] <nibsa1242b> AcidRain: just memtest86 your ram... it'll let you know if its bad
[20:48] <donwall> jcovert: make firefox run on the screen that no one would see
[20:48] <soundray> !patience | andare
[20:48] <AcidRain> i did memtest, and computer crashes on both
[20:48] <cygoku> Under Nautilus, is there anyway to add more List Columns preferencies/options (such as sorting image or video by resolution (like under Windows)) ?!?!?!?
[20:48] <sioux> it remember me 3270
[20:48] <Jockeo> soundray: Thanks for helping. Turns out my CPU is running at 94 degrees celsius, which might be why it's scaling down.
[20:49] <soundray> AcidRain: your memory controller is most likely faulty
[20:49] <AcidRain> so the ram or the mobo?
[20:49] <nibsa1242b> AcidRain: if its crashing on memtest, you probably either have a processor, memory, or Mobo issue. Have you tried memtesting each stick of ram individually?
[20:49] <soundray> Jockeo: thanks, that makes me feel proud of my remote diagnosis ;)
[20:49] <th0r> andare, k9copy is a kde app...why aren't you asking in kubuntu?
[20:49] <nibsa1242b> Jockeo: mmm a toasty 94C is it a laptop?
[20:49] <jcovert> donwall:   i'm not sure how i would go about doing that, but i should google some xwin?
[20:49] <AcidRain> yes i tested individually in same and different slots
[20:49] <soundray> AcidRain: it could be either, but more likely your motherboard
[20:49] <andare> i was being nice the first time & i did waite for an answer as well.  i am only look for help & not any truble but @ the same time when i do need help no one will help me even if i'm nice about it so then i don't know what to do from there, i guess u can say that i do get pissed off cuz no one will help me when i'm be'n nice about it!
[20:49] <danger_> hello there, i've got a tricky question... i'm using ubuntu with awesome wm, now i want to use nautilus for samba but when i click on "network servers" i've got a "couldnt display network:///" - does someone know how to get samba running ?
[20:50] <daf_> how do I zero out files like my /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss  ... I cant edit it with vim and have the changes stick
[20:50] <Jockeo> soundray: You should. nibsa1242b: It's a 3 year old IBM centrino laptop. You think the dust might be the problem?
[20:50] <soundray> andare: you are not entitled to help, and stop swearing in this channel. Last warning.
[20:50] <donwall> jcovert: i think the problem is that firefox needs an instance of xwin to run, it wont run without a gui
[20:50] <nibsa1242b> AcidRain: then you'll probably need to test the ram in another machine to rule it out.
[20:51] <jcovert> donwall:  and without a graphics card and monitor, it is impossible?
[20:51] <donwall> jcovert: it could either forward the gui to you via ssh, or just run the gui locally
[20:51] <Hackerlife> how do i activate my comps wifi card?
[20:51] <sp00n> Hello.  I am trying to install KDE 4.1 but I kde-window-manager is giving error message: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[20:51] <sp00n>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/doc/kde4/HTML/en/kcontrol/kwindecoration/index.docbook', which is also in package kdebase-runtime-data.  None of the suggesions here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=874918 worked and I also get this error trying to run apt-get dist-upgrade.  Help greatly appreciated.
[20:51] <soundray> Jockeo: could well be dust, or even a dead fan
[20:51] <juris> thank You soundray & nixnoob! SCP works great. Downloading my file now :)
[20:51] <richo> soundray: forget it. saw it incorrect.  so the drive is missing even with "sudo fdisk -l"       but in bios it shows.... any ideas?
[20:51] <Hackerlife> cuz everything im trying isnt working
[20:51] <richo> it did work in gutsy before upgrade..
[20:51] <AcidRain> mibsa: so test the ram in a different system to see if its the ram or the mobo?
[20:51] <soundray> !yay | juris
[20:51] <andare> well then i guess if u r conna put me down then the only thing that i am gonna say about it is if u don't wanna help me that's fine but then go fuck ur momma's cuz that's the only damn help that ur'll be gett'n!!!
[20:51] <Jockeo> soundray: ok I see.
[20:51] <nibsa1242b> Jockeo: yeah... I have to clean my laptops out every 1-3 months on account of my 3dogs... otherwise I get 85-90C+ readings. Part of the problem is my BCM4318 card, that thing is an oven.
[20:51] <donwall> jcovert: i wouldn't say its impossible, but i have no idea how you would do it
[20:52] <nibsa1242b> AcidRain: what proc do you have?
[20:52] <Johnny> how do i get ff2 to have transparent backgrounds
[20:52] <AcidRain> nibsa: Q9450
[20:52] <richo> soundray: if i don't see it with fdisk -l i cant grab hold of the disc in any way correct?
[20:52] <juris> :)
[20:52] <Hackerlife> help plz, noob confused!
[20:52] <jcovert> donwall:  ah alright, well thank you for your help
[20:52] <soundray> !ops | andare continuously swearing
[20:52] <donwall> jcovert: i would just try using ssh and have the gui forwarded to whatever computer your connecting from
[20:52] <nibsa1242b> AcidRain: yeah, test it in another system... and shoudl have your anwser
[20:52] <jcovert> donwall:  the thing is i dont' want to connect from any computer  :-/
[20:53] <sioux> who is andare
[20:53] <kushal1> I am pasting lspci on paste bin. http://pastebin.com/m23753eee How can I get my network card working?
[20:53] <Kinks> can someone list off a few partitioners with GUIs? preferably not KDE or GNOME based
[20:53] <shishirmk> hey can any1 tell how to install ubuntu mobile on a tablet i have downloaded the .img file
[20:53] <danger_> cfdisk :)
[20:53] <soundray> richo: are they SATA or IDE disks?
[20:54] <Gillpy_> sioux: /whois andare
[20:54] <Kinks> ..that are in apt
[20:54] <nibsa1242b> Jockeo: while you are in there cleaning out dust you could also think about changing the TIM on the processor. I use Arctic Silver Cermique... seems to make a few degree difference.
[20:54] <sioux> ubuntu mobile great things but up now it is only for intel
[20:54] <kushal1> once again, I am using Ubuntu 8.4.1 on a compaq desktop with Pentium III processor, 20 gb hard disk, and 384 MB RAM
[20:54] <danger_> cfdisk should be in the default installation :D
[20:54] <uman> Ice_Wewe do I have to do that to applications individually or is there somewhere i can set everything to use ASLA
[20:54] <richo> soundray: IDE and it did work in gibbon... havent touched it.
[20:54] <uman> Hi there everyone. IVe been having a problem with ubuntu 8.04 ever since I installed it. What happens is if im using a program that uses audio (for example vlc) and then want to have audio on another one (firefox, to watch online videos), I dont get sound on the second program... I usually get it to work after messing around and killing processes such as gnome-volume-manager, pulseaudio, mixer applet, etc. And sometimes that doesnt work and i have to close one
[20:54] <uman> of the applications that was using audio in order to get sound on the second one. Does anyone know wthe solution to this, and is this  a sort of widespread problem? THanks in advance.
[20:54] <shishirmk> !ubuntu mobile
[20:54] <Kinks> oh, so it is.
[20:55] <nixnoob> uman: u should use alsa instead of pulse
[20:55] <soundray> richo: I don't know then, sorry. Please ask the channel again, or consider reporting the problem on ubuntuforums
[20:55] <Jockeo> nibsa1242b: I'll see if I can get some TIM when I disassemble the laptop.
[20:55] <Kinks> apparently I have an overlapping logical partition to take care off, pretty.
[20:55] <uman> nixnoob THanks, but how exactly would I do that
[20:55] <krazy-h> Hello , someone know how to secure a forum? , to block all the sections, only the registered users could have access to
[20:55] <nixnoob> uman: not sure you can google it tho there will be plenty of guides
[20:55] <richo> soundray: anyway. i will try to change master slave disc just to try. since they are not my bootdrives this is not an issue.
[20:55] <sioux> ubuntu mobile is a development os for intel smal cpu embedded in a mobile gsm
[20:56] <nixnoob> midubunty?
[20:56] <richo> soundray: thx for trying to help. it COULD actually just broken down during upgrade. showing up in bios but data corrup somehow
[20:57] <cygoku> Under Nautilus, is there anyway to add more List Columns preferencies/options (such as sorting image or video by resolution (like under Windows)) ?!?!?!?
[20:58] <RawkFish> Sounray I had to delete the existing account. Now the setup wizard appears. Thank you
[20:58] <soundray> RawkFish: ahh -- was the account not in the .evolution folder?
[20:59] <soundray> RawkFish: anyway, you fixed it, well done
[20:59] <RawkFish> soundray I dont think so. Every time I deleted the folder and started Evolution again the folder will appear.
[20:59] <serkan`c> hello
[20:59] <RawkFish> Soundray thank you again for all the hints
[20:59] <Gillpy_> !evolution > Gillpy_
[20:59] <Kinks> uhm, shouldn't 'swap' show up under 'df'?
[20:59] <soundray> RawkFish: guess I'm not up-to-date on the file locations then
[20:59] <sp00n> Does anyone know how to fix kde-window-manager problem installing kde 4.1
[21:00] <JontyO> Hey can someone help me with grub
[21:00] <JontyO> its really messed up
[21:00] <anirudh0> hi...my emacs shell mode has wierd characters..screenshot is at http://img226.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=33737_snap_122_164lo.jpeg
[21:00] <JontyO> I installed Ubuntu, and it failed to install grub bootloader
[21:00] <JontyO> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[21:00] <RawkFish> Soundray You know more than me. So your guess was way better then mine :)
[21:00] <JontyO> can someone help?
[21:00] <sonicboom> hola a todo el mundo
[21:01] <serkan`c> Kinks: no
[21:01] <soundray> JontyO: are you on the live CD at the moment?
[21:01] <serkan`c> you can see it under free
[21:01] <JontyO> Yes sound
[21:01] <Kinks> oh, it shows up under 'free'
[21:01] <kushal1> how can I get the latest bios for my mobo?
[21:01] <Kinks> thanks :p
[21:01] <serkan`c> np
[21:01] <soundray> JontyO: do you know how to mount your root partition?
[21:01] <abbe> hello
[21:01] <JontyO> erm
[21:01] <JontyO> it involves mount /dev/somet
[21:01] <JontyO> sda1-6
[21:02] <JontyO> its installed on sda6
[21:02] <JontyO> sda3 is vista
[21:02] <abbe> I dn't have sound from youtube, but, i have sound from realplayer and movie player
[21:02] <jimcooncat> kushal1: from the computer distributor or mobo manufacturer
[21:02] <jimcooncat> kushal1: what you got?
[21:02] <soundray> JontyO: have you got a terminal open?
[21:02] <JontyO> yea
[21:02] <krazy-h> ?????????????
[21:02] <soundray> JontyO: do a 'sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt'. Any errors?
[21:03] <abbe> I need help with my sound
[21:03] <Gillpy_> !sound | abbe
[21:03] <anirudh0> i have wierd characters in emacs shell mode ...screen at http://img226.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=33737_snap_122_164lo.jpeg..
[21:03] <JontyO> No errors
[21:03] <kushal1> unfortunately,  a compaq prescario
[21:03] <jcovert> Is it possible to start X on a headless box?
[21:03] <kushal1> I am running Ubuntu 8.4.1
[21:03] <abbe> sound works in my box
[21:03] <mbrigdan> anyone know where Flash stores data files on linux?
[21:04] <abbe> however, on websites does not work
[21:04] <soundray> anirudh0: they are control characters for setting your prompt color. Just set PS1 differently
[21:04] <anirudh0> soundray: this only happens in emacs shell mode
[21:05] <soundray> anirudh0: the terminal can deal with the control chars, emacs can't
[21:05] <arthur> abbe can u watch the vids?
[21:05] <soundray> JontyO: do you have a menu.lst? 'ls /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst'
[21:05] <JontyO> soundray: what know?
[21:05] <anirudh0> soundray: ahh..any way to check in ~/.bashrc?
[21:05] <JontyO> let me check
[21:05] <anirudh0> soundray: something like..if(emacs) simple_PS1..else GOOD_PS1
[21:05] <krazy-h> please help me
[21:06] <JontyO> no, just device.map
[21:06] <soundray> anirudh0: check whether I'm right first: do a 'export PS1=\\u@\\w $' or similar
[21:06] <JontyO> oh wait let me check
[21:06] <JontyO> i didnt do ls
[21:06] <jimcooncat> kushal1: here's a starting point: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&docname=c00007682
[21:06] <Johnny> how do i make firefox transparent
[21:06] <JontyO> soundray: its not there
[21:07] <JontyO> just device.map
[21:07] <Jockeo> Is there a firefox flash plugin under gpl/lgpl that is good enough to run new flash files, such as flash games?
[21:07] <serkan`c> JontyO: did you create a swap part?
[21:07] <JontyO> Yes, dev/sda5
[21:07] <Gillpy_> !gnash
[21:07] <regeya> wheeeee!
[21:07] <anirudh0> ah..got it
[21:07] <serkan`c> it seems grub installation failed somehow
[21:08] <JontyO> yea Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[21:08] <anirudh0> soundray: $TERM in emacs shell is "dumb"
[21:08] <Jockeo> Gillpy_: I'll look at that one. Is it better than swfdec?
[21:08] <Gillpy_> Jockeo: no idea
[21:08] <anirudh0> soundray: so i can check for it , and set PS1 accordingly
[21:08] <Jockeo> ok I'll look them both up then ;)
[21:08] <anirudh0> soundray: thanks for the help !
[21:08] <soundray> anirudh0: glad I could help a helper!
[21:08] <JontyO> soundray: what shall I do?
[21:09] <FLUbuntu> greetings all
[21:09] <soundray> JontyO: try this: 'sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda'
[21:09] <JontyO> ok one min
[21:09] <Dethray> :D
[21:09] <FLUbuntu> is there anyone here that can assist with a video card issue?
[21:09] <Dethray> maybe
[21:09] <ompaul> !video | FLUbuntu have you looked at this?
[21:09] <JontyO> The file /mnt/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[21:10] <JontyO> soundray: The file /mnt/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[21:10] <soundray> JontyO: okay
[21:10] <sp00n> Can someone please help me install KDE 4.1
[21:10] <soundray> JontyO: 'sudo chroot /mnt bash' -- do you get a # prompt instead of the $?
[21:10] <ompaul> FLUbuntu, ignore that - I was looking for something else
[21:11] <Balian> #ubuntu-pl
[21:11] <JontyO> soundray: its ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[21:11] <JontyO> if that is answer
[21:11] <ompaul> FLUbuntu, this is what I was looking for: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:11] <soundray> JontyO: did you enter the command I gave you?
[21:11] <JontyO> yes just done it
[21:11] <Guest88425> how can i upgrate from 6.10 to 8 without cd , please help, there issome problem of apt-get update
[21:12] <soundray> JontyO: do you get a # prompt now?
[21:12] <ompaul> !upgrade | Guest88425
[21:12] <FLUbuntu> got those,  will look at them right now. The issue I am having is that my ATi card in this laptop is not Open SOurce... the drivers install ok and all the basic fucntions work well, all except WOW... it crashes right away. I am using Wine to run it. Without the video card driver the software runs slower than death
[21:12] <JontyO> Yes
[21:12] <Guest88425> it aks /edgy-....
[21:12] <JontyO> soundray:  Yes
[21:12] <soundray> JontyO: 'apt-get install grub' -- any errors?
[21:13] <soundray> Guest88425: don't try to upgrade from edgy -- too much work. Fresh install is quicker, easier and gets you a more reliable system.
[21:13] <JontyO> soundray: grub is already newest version
[21:13] <soundray> JontyO: okay, 'apt-get --reinstall install grub'
[21:13] <JontyO> soundray:  ok one min
[21:13] <Guest88425> no error but nothing to update
[21:13] <arthur> thats what i do just do a freash install
[21:14] <Guest88425> as i was doing apt-get install grub
[21:14] <JontyO> soundray: reinstallation of grub is not possible, it cannot be downloaded
[21:14] <Guest88425> i gut no updates
[21:14] <soundray> Guest88425: the grub command was not for you
[21:15] <JontyO> lolz
[21:15] <Guest88425> in addition apttitude had problem for updating, it said something like update was noy sucseffule etc
[21:15] <soundray> JontyO: does this one work: 'dpkg-reconfigure grub'
[21:15] <lemon> hi, i have a laptop computer and I would like a built-in wireless device such a pcmcia or something similar with the same function, what chip or manufacturer is better?
[21:16] <JontyO> Yes
[21:16] <JontyO> soundray: Yes
[21:16] <arthur> i dont think you can skip versions cant go from 6 to 8
[21:16] <JontyO> sorry gotta get used to type soundray: every time :P
[21:16] <JontyO> arthur: You cant, you need the new cd
[21:16] <soundray> lemon: go for USB if you have a 2.0 port. Devices with a Zydas chip are cheap and work out of the box (unfortunately often hard to tell from the packaging what chip is inside)
[21:17] <jussi01> !tab | JontyO
[21:17] <JontyO> Yea I am doing jussi01
[21:17] <Guest88425> JontyO:  how to update and how to upgarte, it seems that nothing work!!!!
[21:17] <jussi01> :)
[21:17] <soundray> JontyO: did it return anything?
[21:17] <JontyO> Guest88425: Download the LiveCD from ubuntu site
[21:17] <JontyO> soundray:  No
[21:17] <Kinks> is there any way to 'gracefully' dismount swap so I can change its size?
[21:17] <Kinks> apparently it's overlapping with something else and making cfdisk unhappy :D
[21:18] <serkan`c> Kinks: swapoff
[21:18] <Guest88425> JontyO:  i did, but i have no working cd !!!!
[21:18] <Kinks> serkan`c: thanks again
[21:18] <JontyO> Guest88425:  What you mean do working CD?
[21:18] <lemon> soundtray: sorry, but I have a very silly relative at home and it willl go crazy if he see there's a new thing and he need to carry the usb wifi adapter to everywhere, he's just stupid
[21:18] <gfather> guys im getting dpkg --configure -a problem
[21:18] <gfather> i tried to install postgresql
[21:19] <trigpin> Kinks, yes run sudo fdisk -l (find usb ending) then run umount to un mount it
[21:19] <soundray> JontyO: give me a minute
[21:19] <gfather> and now its stuck on this blue screen in terminal that i cant do nothing with it
[21:19] <JontyO> soundray:  No probs :)
[21:19] <Guest88425> JontyO:  any other idea?
[21:19] <arthur>  Guest88425 | you dont have a cd burner?
[21:19] <JontyO> Guest88425:  Sorry, im not much of a expert in linux :P Im just over the n00b stage xD
[21:19] <kushal1> I am using Ubuntu 8.4.1 on a compaq desktop with Pentium III processor, 20 gb hard disk, and 384 MB RAM
[21:19] <PMantis> I have a server that I can't login to at the local console, but can use SSH (with a key). When I type the username to login, it says access denied, BEFORE asking for a password. What did I break?
[21:19] <DjViper> anyone got any experience with wicd, ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant ?
[21:20] <kushal1> I am pasting lspci on paste bin. http://pastebin.com/m23753eee How can I get my network card working?
[21:20] <JontyO> Guest88425: I can recommend buying the DVD or requesting a free cd on ubuntu website
[21:20] <Guest88425> no, it just not working, i do not know, it might be the cd itself, but i assume i could just apt-get and do all the instaltion without cd, am i wrong about it?
[21:20] <Dethray> Anyone know if xchat supports real transparency?
[21:20] <Merritt> Attempting to boot the 8.04 LiveCD, apparently the monitor won't accept such a low resolution (native is 1680x1050 @ 60Hz) - Is there a way to specify it use a higher res (like 1024x768 maybe?) during livecd / install?
[21:20] <DjViper> Dethray: no, it does not
[21:21] <Dethray> Boo
[21:21] <DjViper> Dethray: but you could try with compiz
[21:21] <sourcemaker>  are there SAP specialists (SAP GUI for Java)?
[21:21] <Dethray> using a plugin?
[21:21] <arthur>  Guest88425 | do you have a neighbor with a working cd burner?
[21:21] <krazy-h> Plase guys help me
[21:21] <serkan`c> JontyO: why it says "can not download" or somethnig like that?
[21:22] <JontyO> serkan`c: Yes, Reinstallation of grub is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[21:22] <Dethray> I actually found a patch for it, DJ, but it's a year old
[21:22] <gfather> guys any help on dpkg
[21:22] <serkan`c> in chroot can you ping google?
[21:22] <Dethray> and it looks messy
[21:23] <serkan`c> gfather: just give that command with sudo
[21:23] <JontyO> serkan`c:  No
[21:23] <JontyO> :/
[21:23] <gfather>  thats not the problem
[21:23] <soundray> JontyO: 'ls /boot/grub' -- does it show any files?
[21:23] <serkan`c> Jonbo: copy your /etc/resolv.conf to /mnt/....
[21:23] <Guest88425> well, thanks, no :( , i am in a country in which they speak another lang, anyhow my question is this, is it possiable to install new linux distrubtion by the means of intrnet and without cd, if so then what and how?
[21:23] <gfather> guys im getting dpkg --configure -a problem
[21:23] <serkan`c> gfather: is that the problem?
[21:23] <JontyO> soundray: Just device.map
[21:23] <trigpin> gfather,  man dpkg if you don't know how to use it
[21:23] <JontyO> serkan`c:  Will try that
[21:23] <Merritt> Guest88425: Mubi maybe?
[21:24] <Merritt> Guest88425: Wubi**
[21:24] <Guest88425> mubi?
[21:24] <soundray> JontyO: no!
[21:24] <JontyO> soundray:  ?
[21:24] <Guest88425> wubi, ah ok, thanks
[21:24] <Guest88425> :)
[21:24] <soundray> JontyO: were you going to do something with resolv.conf? That wasn't for you
[21:24] <JontyO> soundray: Yea i was
[21:24] <serkan`c> i just give him connection soundray :)
[21:25] <serkan`c> this is why he cant download grub
[21:25] <serkan`c> or install
[21:25] <soundray> serkan`c: we're in a chroot. You were about to wreck his system
[21:25] <arthur>  Guest88425 | do u have a flopy drive?
 i tried to install postgresql , now i have dpkg --configure -a , and a blue screen shows up , that i cant do nothing with it
[21:25] <serkan`c> wreck?
[21:25] <soundray> JontyO: please stick with me
[21:25] <serkan`c> why
[21:25] <JontyO> soundray: k, can u PM me this channel is messy xD
[21:25] <serkan`c> in a chroot enviroment you can get a connection
[21:25] <JontyO> too much going on
[21:26] <serkan`c> and his connection just need DNS
[21:26] <plague> Can anyone help me with a Frostwire problem?  Its not java related.
[21:26] <serkan`c> gfather: jump another terminal
[21:26] <nixnoob> !ask | plague
[21:26] <serkan`c> give the command it told you with a sudo
[21:26] <cbxrahl> hey i am getting a cannot mount volume how can i fix that
 i tried , samething with this blue screen
[21:27] <serkan`c> what blue screen?
[21:27] <anirudh0> cbxrahl: details?
[21:27] <serkan`c> gfather: can you jump to a terminal via ctrl+alt+f1?
[21:27] <nixnoob> cbxrahl: more specificly wat are you trying to mount what command are you using?
[21:27] <plague> Ok - sorry - I have used Frostwire before on and off without problem, I know how to get the Java working so I know its not that.  Ive upgraded to 8.04 this weekend, downloaded he latest frostwire, installed the java.  The program starts but says it cant find an internet connection and to check my firewall.  Never had this message before
[21:27] <cbxrahl> well it says $logfile indicates unclean shutdown
[21:28] <trigpin> gfather, thats not a problem did you run dpkg --configure -a ?
[21:28] <serkan`c> cbxrahl: a ntfs part.?
[21:28] <cbxrahl> yep
[21:29] <serkan`c> so you unplug the disk without unmounting it on windows imho
[21:29] <cbxrahl> its says i can foce it close
[21:29] <kane77> I need backing up program, so I just installed and set up sbackup, but for some reason it's not purging the backups like I set up, does somebody know a solution?
[21:29] <cbxrahl> how do i do that
[21:29] <serkan`c> cbxrahl: then force it
[21:29] <soundray> serkan`c: sorry, I overreacted
[21:29] <serkan`c> soundray: no problem mate
[21:29] <anirudh0> cbxrahl: mount --force
[21:29] <iperich> hi, I have a problem with Hardy, i can't play mp3, depite i installed the ubuntu-extras-restricted package
[21:29] <djbender> Does anyone know the name of that programming website that challenges you to solve problems in any language? I think the name has something to do with a famous mathematician or something related.
[21:30] <Blaqlight> which is better as far as funtionality, curiousity is killing me... bash or zsh
[21:30] <anirudh0> cbxrahl: try running ntfsfix on the partition first
[21:30] <nixnoob> !
[21:31] <plague> anyone know about my frostwire problem?
[21:31] <plague> (see above)
[21:31] <iperich> ﻿ hi, I have a problem with Hardy, i can't play mp3, despite i installed the ubuntu-extras-restricted package. I installed the package, al went OK, It worked, but i rebooted and i cant play mp3s again, totem anda audacious freezes...
[21:31] <nixnoob> plague: its possible your router is not setup for UpnP
[21:31] <serkan`c> iperich: freezing is something else
[21:32] <nixnoob> !patience | iperich
[21:32] <th0r> plague, are you running a wifi router or firewall? It sounds like you need to open the ports frostwire wants to use
[21:32] <anirudh0> iperich: post output of lsof /dev/snd/*
[21:32] <Xecuter> hi! how do i add a user to the wheel group? using terminal
[21:32] <Blaqlight> !mp3 | iperich
[21:32] <anirudh0> Blaqlight: this does not sound like a mp3 problem at all
[21:32] <plague> nixnoob - never had a problem with frostwire before, how would I check?
[21:32] <djbender> is there a programming channel?
[21:32] <anirudh0> djbender: lang?
[21:32] <djbender> english
[21:33] <nixnoob> plague: I'm not sure what ports frostwire uses but you need to find out and make sure they are open in both your firewall and your router.
[21:33] <Anon1935> Grub Help Please ?
[21:33] <anirudh0> djbender: lol...prog land
[21:33] <anirudh0> *language
[21:33] <Gnea> !ask | Anon1935
[21:33] <Xecuter> how can i allow a user to use sudo? isn't there a command in terminal for that?
[21:33] <Balian> i need some helpl. I want set resolution but my system don't save setings
[21:33] <anirudh0> Xecuter: visudo
[21:33] <nixnoob> Xecuter: sudoers file
[21:33] <Gnea> Xecuter: visudo
[21:33] <Anon1935> Gnea, I need help with the boot menu
[21:33] <Blaqlight> anirudh0: now its someone else's problem :P
[21:33] <bazz> is there a script that gets run when i suspend/hibernate?  i need to manually remove/insert a module to make it work
[21:33] <gfather> needed to restart
[21:34] <Gnea> Anon1935: what's wrong with it?
[21:34] <robotman5> Wow lots of people
[21:34] <gfather> i still get the postgresql blue screen :S
[21:34] <iperich>  lsof /dev/snd/*
[21:34] <iperich> COMMAND    PID    USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE  NODE NAME
[21:34] <iperich> mixer_app 6009 iperich   20u   CHR  116,0      11419 /dev/snd/controlC0
[21:34] <iperich> firefox   7326 iperich  mem    CHR 116,16      11381 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[21:34] <iperich> firefox   7326 iperich   21u   CHR 116,33      11112 /dev/snd/timer
[21:34] <djbender> anirudh0, no language in particular
[21:34] <FloodBot1> iperich: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:34] <Gnea> !pastebin | iperich
[21:34] <nixnoob> iperich:  dont paste in the channel
[21:34] <Anon1935> I want to edit the bottom of the Menu.lst. I have search till the cows won't come home on this and I can't find anything
[21:35] <iperich> sorry...
[21:35] <Xecuter> anirudh0, nixnoob, Gnea, aaah fu** i hate cisudo :P but itsn't it possible to just add the user to the wheel-group?
[21:35] <anirudh0> djbender: #python, #emacs, #c+
[21:35] <anirudh0> *#c++
[21:35] <nixnoob> Anon1935: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:35] <iperich> is a conflict with firefox it seems...
[21:35] <aoirthoir> Where do I go to find out about how to set up a connection from one computer to another via X (not vnc)?
[21:35] <Blaqlight> Xecuter: please find other words for your curse words, don't just cover them up.
[21:35] <Gnea> !language | Xecuter
[21:35] <mads-> How do I launch the Java control panel in ubuntu?
[21:35] <anirudh0> Xecuter: you want to give the user global sudo rights?
[21:35] <iperich> if I close firefox i can play mp3s... hmmm
[21:35] <Balian> I'm cannot set resolution. Who can help
[21:36] <Anon1935> You got it iperich, but that will not edit the bottom of the list "outside the box"
[21:36] <ompaul> Xecuter, this is not BSD so no
[21:36] <iperich> can I avoid that?
[21:36] <sanguisdex> help me
[21:36] <anirudh0> iperich: its a common problem
[21:36] <Kinks> Anon1935: "outside the box"?
[21:36] <serkan`c> could it be libaudioflash issue?
[21:36] <anirudh0> iperich: firefox freezes /dev/snd/
[21:36] <Blaqlight> !ask > sanguisdex
[21:36] <anirudh0> iperich: hence no other app works
[21:36] <Gnea> nixnoob: problem?
[21:36] <iperich> ﻿anirudh0: is a firefox problem??
[21:36] <anirudh0> iperich: its ntoa firefox, but rather a flash/gmail thing from my experience
[21:36] <Kinks> Anon1935: /boot/grub/menu.lst is a text file, no boxes.
[21:37] <serkan`c> i can play mp3s with firefox playing something esle
[21:37] <JontyO> Anon1935: Please use /nick name to change your nick to a more suitable name so it is easier to distinguise!
[21:37] <Anon1935> Yes Kinks at the bottom where it gives instructions on the editing and the console commands.
[21:37] <anirudh0> iperich: i;ve only faced it when a flash video, or gmail ..was open
[21:37] <anirudh0> serkan`c: see last post
[21:37] <jcovert> Xecuter:    useradd -m -G wheel username
[21:37] <iperich> ﻿anirudh0: yes, i had gmail opened
[21:37] <serkan`c> where anirudh0 ?
[21:37] <Kinks> Anon1935: example?
[21:37] <Xecuter> thankyou jcovert
[21:37] <Kinks> Anon1935: ie. a screenshot? you have me lost entirely
[21:38] <anirudh0> iperich: gmail in javascript mode is somehow the culprit..with ff3 only though
[21:38] <jcovert> Xecuter:  actually wait
[21:38] <Johnny> i need a tty cli clock that will countdown and run a command
[21:38] <jcovert> Xecuter:  if the user exists already, do this:  gpasswd -a username wheel
[21:38] <anirudh0> serkan`c: i meant my post just before :)
[21:38] <serkan`c> Johnny: sleep?
[21:38] <Xecuter> jcovert, thanks even more ^
[21:38] <serkan`c> anirudh0: :D if it is ffx 3 , i can shut up :D
[21:38] <iperich> ﻿anirudh0: there is no workaround for this, i guess?
[21:38] <Johnny> no Sergeant_Pony
[21:38] <jcovert> Xecuter:  for sure  : )
[21:38] <AcidRain> ok. I have 2 sticks of f2 gig ddr2 1066 ram. I used the memtest on the live cd to test in another system and they were fine. When I put in my system however, and do memtest it crashes. I tested them each in every slot. No error messages the computer jsut turns off. The computer will boot and runs fine, for maybe 45 minutes and then it will crash (using vista) no warning or blue screen it just turns off. Can anyone help me?
[21:38] <mads-> How do I launch the JAVA control panel in ubuntu?
[21:39] <anirudh0> Johnny: you mean it should show a countdown?
[21:39] <nixnoob> AcidRain: CPU or mobo
[21:39] <Johnny> yes anirudh0
[21:39] <anirudh0> iperich: if you find one. ping me ;)
[21:39] <Blaqlight> AcidRain: are you sure the mobo FSB is good?
[21:39] <AcidRain> how can i figure out which one?
[21:39] <Anon1935> Kinks the instructions at the bottom outside of the kernel box that tells you to use the arrow keys to make your selection or use "e" to edit or "c" for console.
[21:39] <khajex> if i got a xubuntu desktop installatin, can i convert it after install to server edition?
[21:39] <Miesco> When I load my collection in exaile I get: File "/usr/share/exaile/xl/db.py", line 173, in _execute
[21:39] <anirudh0> Johnny: google for it..i remember one from long ago..sleep works without a countdown display
[21:39] <nixnoob> AcidRain: pay attention to the thermal readings, if the CPU temp goes really high just before the reboot then thats your prob, if not its mobo
[21:39] <Malgaur> with iptables, if I ACCEPT something in INPUT does it still get processed in POSTROUTING?
[21:40] <Miesco> INSERT INTO paths( id, name ) VALUES( ?, ? ) (1237, u'/home/shawn/Documents/Music/contemporary/Jimi Hendrix/1967 - ARE YOU EXPERIENCED/11 Are You Experienced.mp3')
[21:40] <anirudh0> Johnny: or you can just write a small script for it :)
[21:40] <Miesco> It wont load any of my songs
[21:40] <Johnny> dont know how to script
[21:40] <serkan`c> i was gonna tell this :D like scrot Johnny
[21:40] <Kinks> Anon1935: whatever you're talking about is specific to your editor, which I don't use, and likely has NOTHING to do with /boot/grub/menu.lst, like I said, you're probably going to have to show me a screenshot for me to get any idea what the heck you're talking about, otherwise I can't really help you.
[21:40] <serkan`c> so get scrot and look the script :) Johnny
[21:40] <iperich> ﻿anirudh0: hehehe.... ok, thanks... i guess that the only workaround by now is to play the music in the first place and then check my email....
[21:40] <Johnny> i have scrot
[21:41] <Kinks> Anon1935: oh wait, I think I know what you're talking about now
[21:41] <serkan`c> anirudh0: so with ffx 3 on gmail we cant listen mp3s?
[21:41] <Kinks> Anon1935: you want to change the interface of grub?
[21:41] <anirudh0> iperich: well...i close ff3..it remembers tabs..open amarok..then reopen ff..not really a workaround though :)
[21:41] <Sergeant_Pony> johnny ?
[21:41] <khajex> if i got a xubuntu desktop installatin, can i convert it after install to server edition?
[21:41] <Kinks> Anon1935: you really need to be more clear about what you really want to do
[21:41] <anirudh0> serkan`c: it happens sporadically..not sure of the exact cause..but only happens if gmail is open in javascript mode
[21:42] <iperich> ﻿anirudh0: yes, i discovered it myself... it sucks but it works...
[21:42] <Anon1935> Kinks got an e-Mail. I work up a screen shot of how I want the edit to look like. Very easy to understand.
[21:42] <iperich> thanks, bye...
[21:42] <serkan`c> got it anirudh0 , thanks
[21:42] <Gnea> Anon1935: you open the file, you change the lines you need them to be, you save it, you quit. that's it.
[21:42] <serkan`c> khajex: why not
[21:42] <khajex> how should i do that?
[21:42] <Kinks> Gnea: I think he wants to change the interface grub uses at boot, I'm quite lost.
[21:43] <Gnea> Kinks: either that or he's a troll
[21:43] <Anon1935> Gnea you cannot edit this in Menu.lst Do you know where I can edit the bottom instructions
[21:43] <Kinks> Gnea: I was starting to wonder that too
[21:43] <serkan`c> khajex: what do you mean saying a server?
[21:43] <serkan`c> or server edition?
[21:43] <Gnea> Anon1935: the file Menu.lst does not exist.
[21:44] <Anon1935> gnea; /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:44] <Blaqlight> hmm
[21:44] <Kinks> Anon1935: you cannot directly change how grub looks unless that change is a side effect of enabling some option unless you change the grub source code to suit your needs and rebuild it, then install your custom version
[21:45] <Kinks> Anon1935: something I'm not sure you're quite up to at this point
[21:45] <Gnea> Anon1935: ah ok, yes, that one does exist. so what do you want grub to be able to do when the system starts, exactly?
[21:45] <anirudh0> ls
[21:45] <serkan`c> anirudh0: irssi :D
[21:45] <Anon1935> Kinks; problably not !!!
[21:46] <Blaqlight> serkan`c: true that. irssi rocks
[21:46] <Kinks> indeed it does
[21:46] <Anon1935> However this should be just a simple text edit instead of a compile
[21:46] <serkan`c> i didnt say it rocks Blaqlight :D
[21:46] <anirudh0> serkan`c: actually...emacs erc
[21:46] <Nillerz> This is my first day with Fluxbuntu, can anyone help me get my wg111v2 running? Itś a USB wireless antennae
[21:46] <anirudh0> Blaqlight:  which also rocks :)
[21:46] <Blaqlight> there is actually a fluxbox version of ubuntu?
[21:47] <magnetron> !fluxbuntu | Nillerz
[21:47] <anirudh0> yes..fluxubuntu.org
[21:47] <Gnea> Anon1935: well, if you can't answer our questions, we can't help you. it's that simple.
[21:47] <Blaqlight> I have ubuntu with fluxbox running on top of it.
[21:47] <delux> hallo eine frage wie kann ich noch tunapie tv list erweitern wo finde ich was
[21:47] <Kinks> Blaqlight: alternatively, installing with no desktop environment and installing fluxbox works just fine..
[21:48] <Blaqlight> seems like a waste with all of the excellent gnome programs out there... not to do it this way
[21:48] <Anon1935> Gnea, let me have an e-mail address and i will send you a screen shot
[21:48] <Gnea> Anon1935: no.
[21:48] <Nillerz> #fluxbuntu is the least helpful irc channel ever made.
[21:48] <serkan`c> Anon1935: you want grub menu pretty cool?
[21:48] <Gnea> Nillerz: agreed.
[21:48] <Johnny>  lol Nillerz
[21:48] <Anon1935> Oh well!!
[21:48] <Johnny> go to #awesome on oftc
[21:48] <serkan`c> Anon1935: ?
[21:49] <Anon1935> here I am serkan
[21:49] <Gnea> Anon1935: why can't you post it to an image site?
[21:49] <atomicsunset> is there a VirtualBox channel?
[21:49] <Blaqlight> Nillerz: yet another reason to do it the way I did :P
[21:49] <serkan`c> is this what you want?
[21:49] <Gnea> !virtualbox | atomicsunset
[21:49] <Anon1935> List an image site
[21:49] <atomicsunset> or can i use this channel for vbox questions?
[21:49] <Kinks> sigh
[21:49] <Kinks> Anon1935: go troll someone else already
[21:49] <anirudh0> can a laptop display be redirected to a ordinary monitor?
[21:49] <khajex> serkan`c : i want to make a computer a server for some purpose, and i was wondering if it can be used as server since i saw there's a Desktop cd and another one Server cd, so i asked if it can be used as the server cd by installing some packages or something liker that.. ?
[21:49] <Gnea> Anon1935: wow... just google 'free image hosting'
[21:50] <serkan`c> khajex: of course
[21:50] <Blaqlight> anirudh0: I route mine to my 60 inch plasma tv :D
[21:50] <Johnny> anyone use ncmpc?
[21:50] <serkan`c> you install desktop edition and the other server applications on it
[21:50] <Anon1935> thanks
[21:50] <Blaqlight> anirudh0: as long as you have the video outs...
[21:50] <anirudh0> Blaqlight: any pointers?
[21:50] <Nillerz> Any clue how to install a flash player on opera 9.5 ?
[21:50] <harisund> When you are messaging something to Ubottu, what does the piping do? As in "!virtualbox | <user name>"
[21:51] <anirudh0> Blaqlight:just connect monitor cable to video out?
[21:51] <UltimateMacUser1> i'd just like to point out i got the Lucent card workin in Breezy :p
[21:51] <Blaqlight> anirudh0: X deals with each individually and flawlesssly.
[21:51] <Blaqlight> anirudh0: without issues.
[21:51] <jussi01> harisund: prefixes the piped bit
[21:51] <anirudh0> Blaqlight: nice..thanks
[21:51] <jussi01> ie.
[21:51] <Gnea> harisund: redirects in the channel
[21:51] <jussi01> !test | harisund
[21:51] <Gnea> !test
[21:51] <Gnea> oops :)
[21:51] <Blaqlight> anirudh0: try to use the monitor bale though if your tv supports it.
[21:51] <androver> hey, i stopped using gnome (using awesomewm now) and I want a script to run when I plug my ipod in.  which daemon do I need to hook into?  any good web pages about it?
[21:51] <Blaqlight> cable*
[21:52] <harisund> So that the IRC client informs the user, I presume?
[21:52] <Gnea> !test
[21:52] <anirudh0> Blaqlight: you mean to say that a plain old tv would work?
[21:52] <ikonia> Gnea: stop please
[21:52] <Gnea> ikonia: i was showing an example.
[21:52] <harisund> Gnea and jussi01: Thanks!
[21:52] <anirudh0> Blaqlight: my tv is ancient..not even flat
[21:52] <ikonia> Gnea: someone else did it - they saw
[21:52] <Blaqlight> anirudh0: it would look like garbage... but if you have the right cables...
[21:52] <Gnea> ikonia: without the pipe.
[21:53] <AcidRain> ok, using memtest causes the com to crash. I know the ram is fine. So if it is a problem with the mobo, would i be able to actually boot and run windows?
[21:53] <Merritt> 8.04 LiveCD - Is it possible to specify the monitor's refresh rate for a livecd session?
[21:53] <phantomcircuit> every window i open has the title off the top of the screen
[21:53] <phantomcircuit> what gives?
[21:54] <gyroscope> Merritt, it's possible with the control panel
[21:54] <AcidRain> ok, using memtest causes the com to crash. I know the ram is fine. So if it is a problem with the mobo, would i be able to actually boot and run windows?
[21:54] <Shujah> phantomcircuit, using compiz?
[21:54] <Gnea> phantomcircuit: did you change the theme?
[21:54] <anirudh0> AcidRain: unlikely..but you have nothing to lose by trying
[21:54] <Johnny> how do i set it up so i can ssh into my machine from anywhere
[21:54] <Balian> #ubuntu-pl
[21:54] <wols_> AcidRain: we don't care and certainly don't know
[21:54] <Blaqlight> phantomcircuit: change themes and see if it helps.
[21:54] <adamfalkofske> could someone help me get a memory stick duo work with my HP laptop?
[21:54] <anirudh0> Johnny: you have a public ip?
[21:54] <ikonia> AcidRain: if the board is faulty - the OS doesn't matter
[21:54] <Merritt> gyroscope: I mean as a boot option.
[21:54] <Johnny> no anirudh0
[21:54] <AcidRain> so it wouldnt be able to boot at all
[21:54] <ikonia> AcidRain: try it
[21:54] <Gnea> AcidRain: does memtest make the crash when there are no hds attached?
[21:54] <Johnny> is there something where i can register a free dhcp ip ?
[21:55] <Blaqlight> AcidRain: it sounds like your mobo is faulty, change it.
[21:55] <anirudh0> Johnny: then you first need access to a computer on your lan that does have a public ip
[21:55] <Gillpy_> Johnny: you mean dyndyns
[21:55] <kushal1> I am using Ubuntu 8.4.1 on a compaq desktop with Pentium III processor, 20 gb hard disk, and 384 MB RAM
[21:55] <kushal1> I am pasting lspci on paste bin. http://pastebin.com/m23753eee How can I get my network card working?
[21:55] <AcidRain> well it can boot, so the ram is fine and the mobo is fine yet memtest crashes when i run
[21:55] <ikonia> kushal1: ifconfig -a do you see your cards
[21:55] <wols_> Johnny: only place you can get public IPs is from your ISP
[21:55] <ikonia> AcidRain: then the ram isn't fine - or the board isn't fine
[21:55] <Gillpy_> Johnny: dyndns.com I meant
[21:56] <AcidRain> well i tested the ram in another com and it was fine
[21:56] <wols_> AcidRain: if memtest is crashing it is NOT fine and a bootup doesn't prove anything at all
[21:56] <Johnny> is it free Gillpy_ ?
[21:56] <serkan`c> Johnny: free dhcp ip?
[21:56] <gyroscope> Merritt, want you change boot option?
[21:56] <AcidRain> and it can boot so i assume the mobo is fine
[21:56] <ikonia> AcidRain: doesn't mean it's fine
[21:56] <anirudh0> Gillpy_: dyndns is just "naming sugar"...your ip must be visible first
[21:56] <Blaqlight> ikonia: he claims to have tested it with success on another board.
[21:56] <ikonia> AcidRain: just because it boots doesn't mean it's fine
[21:56] <AcidRain> ok
[21:56] <wols_> AcidRain: those are ALL wrong assumptions
[21:56] <Gillpy_> Johnny: yes but I dont no if it's what you want
[21:56] <phantomcircuit> Shujah, Gnea, Blaqlight, im using compiz
[21:56] <Gnea> AcidRain: disconnect the mobo, boot the livecd and run memtest from that.
[21:56] <Gnea> AcidRain: s/mobo/hd/g
[21:56] <Johnny> i just want it so i can ssh into my desktop from school or whereever
[21:56] <ikonia> Gnea: don't be silly
[21:56] <wols_> Johnny: if you have a dynamic IP, then yes
[21:56] <Merritt> gyroscope: Yes.. The refresh rate for the monitor I am using is 60Hz, and the default refresh rate doesn't work with this monitor, so I can't get past the initial "Try ubuntu.." screen.
[21:56] <Gnea> ikonia: leave me alone.
[21:56] <anirudh0> Gnea: neat idea
[21:57] <AcidRain> gnea: you cant disconnect the mobo
[21:57] <Shujah> phantomcircuit, then try reloading compiz & checkout emerald themes
[21:57] <wols_> AcidRain: he corrected himself
[21:57] <Gnea> AcidRain: again, disconnect the hd.
[21:57] <arthur> i noticed ther is a pkg called webcam-server in the universe. is there a webpage or irc channel?
[21:57] <Johnny> how do i get one wols_
[21:57] <serkan`c> Johnny: then use dynds
[21:57] <AcidRain> ok brb
[21:57] <Blaqlight> !emerald | phantomcircuit
[21:57] <Blaqlight> ack
[21:57] <phantomcircuit> emerald?
[21:57] <phantomcircuit> and how do i reload compiz?
[21:58] <kokko> hi, can anyone tell me how to uninstall xpti.dat
[21:58] <anirudh0> compiz --replace
[21:58] <serkan`c> compiz --replace phantomcircuit
[21:58] <Blaqlight> !compiz | phantomcircuit
[21:58] <gyroscope> Merritt, hmm i'm understand, but i haven't any ideas about that :\
[21:58] <kokko> hi, can anyone tell me how to uninstall xpti.dat
[21:59] <Gnea> !repeat | kokko
[21:59] <phantomcircuit> i get the feeling this is the problem...
[21:59] <phantomcircuit> GConf backend: There is an unsupported value at path /apps/compiz/plugins/scale/allscreens/options/initiate_edge. Settings from this path won't be read. Try to remove that value so that operation can continue properly.
[21:59] <Blaqlight> phantomcircuit: ahhh
[21:59] <FLUbuntu> greetings all... RE: my ATI video card issue...
[21:59] <techsupport> i got ssh, how do i check which linux i'm in  ?
[21:59] <kokko> ok sorry
[22:00] <ikonia> techsupport: uname -a and lsb_release or /etc/release normalyl gives it away
[22:00] <Blaqlight> phantomcircuit: you should get emerald so that its easy to change that setting.
[22:00] <anirudh0> techsupport: "which linux" ?
[22:00] <serkan`c> he dropped a shell via ssh and wonders which distro it is :D
[22:00] <phantomcircuit> Blaqlight, i always love it when the solution is to install something else.....
[22:00] <Blaqlight> phantomcircuit: you don't have, it just makes it easier
[22:01] <Blaqlight> have to*
[22:01] <AcidRain> gnea: i unplugged the HD and it is still chrashing when i run memtest
[22:01] <Blaqlight> AcidRain: its almost certainly the MOBO now.
[22:01] <AcidRain> NOOO
[22:01] <FLUbuntu> I looked in on those three sites, removed the closed source ATI driver and rebooted, per the instructions. But, when I went to configure the open source driver the instructions on the site had nothing to do with what I was seeing on this machine. Question: Is there a download location for this open source driver for my ATI x300?
[22:01] <ikonia> AcidRain: then this is nothing to do with ubuntu, contact your hadrware vendor for support
[22:01] <AcidRain> i dont wanna rma it
[22:02] <anirudh0> AcidRain: crashing=="powering off"?
[22:02] <Gnea> AcidRain: how many ram sticks do you have installed?
[22:02] <AcidRain> yes
[22:02] <AcidRain> i have 2 but i have tested each individually
[22:02] <anirudh0> AcidRain: how do you know that the ram is fine?
[22:02] <suTim> http://JennyTheBitch.com/?id=d5435108 <-- LOL
[22:02] <AcidRain> i tested in another computer
[22:02] <ikonia> suTim: don't need to see it
[22:02] <insecure> join #gaygeeks
[22:02] <ikonia> AcidRain: this is not an ubuntu issue, contact your hardware vendor for support
[22:02] <Shujah> lols
[22:03] <Ayabara> should be no problem running kde4-apps in gnome?
[22:03] <batgld> hi! how do you ssh into vmware? im tryign to compile lfs but theres no user space, so i need to ssh into gues, in order to copy and paste
[22:03] <Gnea> AcidRain: you're going to have to check your mobo settings then - maybe there's a firmware upgrade
[22:03] <anirudh0> ikonia: he said that windows works..so it may be an ubuntu issue
[22:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> Ayabara: as long as you have the needed libs installed, no worries
[22:03] <AcidRain> no upgrade
[22:03] <ikonia> anirudh0: no - memtest is failing
[22:03] <ikonia> anirudh0: he classes "boots" as works
[22:04] <adamfalkofske> ﻿could someone help me get a memory stick duo work with my HP laptop?
[22:04] <Shujah> Ayabara,  dl via synaptic dependencies are automatically installed
[22:04] <Blaqlight> adamfalkofske: do you have the adaptor?
[22:04] <Ayabara> Daisuke_Laptop, great. I don't think the "kde-apps-dir" is in my path, so I guess I have to add something
[22:04] <[-Ghost-]> When it try to install x86 version of ubuntu 8.04 (x86 has my sound drivers, and x64 dosen't), amd64 is installed, would there be a way to force install x86 version of ubuntu?
[22:05] <ikonia> [-Ghost-]: not really
[22:05] <anirudh0> Ayabara: no
[22:05] <ikonia> [-Ghost-]: ubuntu is not really multi-lib
[22:05] <Blaqlight> adamfalkofske: mine won't read it only because the card is too small for the hole.
[22:05] <[-Ghost-]> So i'm stuck with amd64?
[22:05] <Ayabara> Shujah, did that, and I'm compiling digikam 0.10.0-beta1 now
[22:05] <anirudh0> Ayabara: the install takes care of it for you..if you login to kde4 :)
[22:05] <ikonia> [-Ghost-]: you can install x86 version of the distro
[22:05] <Ayabara> anirudh0, I know, but what I want is to run kde4-apps from gnome :)
[22:05] <serkan`c> i think there is a force option for x86 packages
[22:06] <ikonia> serkan`c: amd64 won't see the x86 repos
[22:06] <serkan`c> could be a dpkg option but i am not sure
[22:06] <maxiubuntu> www.ircdic.com
[22:06] <batgld> is there a vmware channel?
[22:06] <anirudh0> Ayabara: export PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/bin:$PATH
[22:06] <[-Ghost-]> I did, it was running the generic kernel, now after i install it, i get an amd64 kernel.
[22:06] <ikonia> maxiubuntu: why are you posting that ?
[22:06] <anirudh0> Ayabara: add this to ~/.bashrc
[22:06] <ikonia> [-Ghost-]: please show me uname -a
[22:06] <ikonia> batgld: #vmware
[22:06] <serkan`c> ikonia: not repos, single packages i mean, but i am not sure
[22:06] <cypherdelic> Does someboady know a firmware vor MSI Digivox mini III TV-DVBT-USB-Stick???
[22:06] <ikonia> serkan`c: ubuntu's not multi-lib so not the best idea in my opinion
[22:07] <adamfalkofske> Blaqlight: no, mine works
[22:07] <serkan`c> of course not best one :d
[22:07] <adamfalkofske> i tried it in windowsXP and it worked just fine
[22:07] <[-Ghost-]> Linux titan 2.6.24-1-amd64 #1 SMP Sat may 10 09:28:10 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:07] <ikonia> [-Ghost-]: don't worry about that, it's just a kernel title
[22:08] <[-Ghost-]> So what am i going to do about my sound drivers?
[22:08] <orgthingy> hi
[22:08] <[-Ghost-]> They aren't working in the x64 version, but worked fine in the x86 live cd.
[22:08] <ikonia> [-Ghost-]: install the x86 distro ?
[22:08] <orgthingy> how can I make a 2nd account in ubuntu? and how can i delete it?
[22:08] <[-Ghost-]> Thats what i did.
[22:08] <ikonia> orgthingy: system -> administration -> users and groups
[22:08] <orgthingy> thanks!
[22:08] <ikonia> [-Ghost-]: you've not, your still running x86_64 distro
[22:08] <Shujah> orgthingy, menu > sys > admin > users & groups
[22:09] <ikonia> [-Ghost-]: you need to install the x86 DISTRO, not kernel
[22:09] <[-Ghost-]> Does the x86 version have the x64 kernel within it?
[22:09] <ikonia> [-Ghost-]: no
[22:09] <ikonia> [-Ghost-]: it's x86 - 32bit, x64 is 64bit, they don't mix
[22:09] <phantomcircuit> i cant find emerald in the repos....
[22:09] <[-Ghost-]> Hmm..
[22:09] <orgthingy> Shujah : but im not root, so i cant ass a new account :O
[22:10] <[-Ghost-]> Guess i transfered and burned a wrong copy.
[22:10] <Shujah> orgthingy, once you try to operate on user accounts system will ask you to login, or in terminal adduser (man adduser !)
[22:10] <ljpp> Hi, just dropped in to say that the Ubuntu Hardy WLAN is useless on T41 thinkpads (and the whole series I beleive) due to change in wireless drivers
[22:11] <ikonia> ljpp: thanks for sharing that
[22:11] <Shujah> orgthingy, that will be sudo adduser username   .. sorry
[22:11] <ikonia> ljpp: bye
[22:11] <ljpp> ikonia, really - WLAN has became very unreliable
[22:11] <ljpp> worked fine in older releases
[22:11] <Shujah> phantomcircuit, you can't miss emerald just search for it
[22:11] <ikonia> ljpp: ok - bye
[22:11] <ikonia> ljpp: or do you have a problem you want to discuss rather than just rant
[22:11] <D3RGPS31> How do I install Grub2 when my /boot directory doesn't exist?
[22:11] <orgthingy> Shujah : oh, thanks!
[22:11] <ljpp> I beleive I dont own the only T41 in the world
[22:12] <ljpp> or a Dell..
[22:12] <Blaqlight> !compiz-fusion | phantomcircuit
[22:12] <ikonia> ljpp: no you don't. If you want to chat about it, lets discuss it, if you want to rant "hi just dropped in to say ubuntu on a T41 sucks" don't bother
[22:12] <Blaqlight> sorry, same factoid, two different triggers
[22:12] <Johnny> should i creat a dynamic dns with my own host name or their host name
[22:12] <Balian> went i start system I hawe error and login page has not started.  Wath is this and wath a can do ?
[22:12] <ljpp> I wonder if there is noob friedly workaround to get the old driver to Hardy?
[22:13] <Sam_Gold> ноче линуксоиды
[22:13] <ljpp> ikonia, and otherwise Ubuntu on a T41 pretty much ruulz
[22:13] <jpds> !ru > Sam_Gold
[22:13] <cypherdelic> Howto uninstall and reinstall with different ./configure tags after make install???
[22:13] <Balian> went i start system I hawe error and login page has not started.  Wath is this and wath a can do ?
[22:14] <geronimo9> 2borknot2b
[22:14] <Shujah> cypherdelic, installing checkinstall would be a good idea for future ventures :P
[22:14] <ljpp> ikonia, pretty damn crazy to ship borked drivers for the LTS release
[22:14] <ikonia> cypherdelic: you don't
[22:14] <cypherdelic> Shujah: what do you mean???
[22:14] <ikonia> ljpp: they are not "borked" your having an issue
[22:14] <ikonia> cypherdelic: what have you installed
[22:14] <ljpp> ikonia, actually it is - reports are flooding
[22:14] <cypherdelic> ikonia: you mean i cant recompile mms with enabled-tv????
[22:14] <pc06> hi.........
[22:14] <ikonia> ljpp: where ?
[22:15] <ncls> hi people
[22:15] <ljpp> ikonia, The Internet?
[22:15] <ikonia> cypherdelic: you certainly can, but to change the build options you have to reconfigure it
[22:15] <ompaul> ljpp, give examples please
[22:15] <ikonia> ljpp: can you show me a bug report for these flooding in reports
[22:15] <ncls> can someone tell me how to get my external screen to work?
[22:15] <ljpp> it is in Ubuntu Brainstorm at least
[22:15] <ikonia> ljpp: please show me a bug report
[22:15] <cypherdelic> i know that i have the ./configure --enable...blabla of my suit, i already tried but when i start mms it is the same old thing
[22:15] <cypherdelic> ikonia:
[22:15] <pc06> #Bandung
[22:15] <ljpp> ikonia, how many would you like?
[22:16] <alraun1> is there a channel to discusss irc-related questions ?
[22:16] <ompaul> ljpp, that is not a bug report - go to launchpad.net and report it if you can't find it
[22:16] <D3RGPS31> How do I install Grub2 when by boot directory is erased?
[22:16] <ikonia> D3RGPS31: are you %101 sure you want to do that
[22:16] <ncls> someone, anyone?
[22:16] <Dethray> erased?
[22:16] <Pici> alraun1: #freenode is a good place to start
[22:16] <D3RGPS31> ikonia: it's already gone, so yes
[22:16] <Gillpy_> alraun1: #freenode maybe
[22:16] <cypherdelic> ikonia:  i tried sudo make clean, is there anthing else i need to do?
[22:16] <Dethray> Do you still have the mount point?
[22:16] <Blaqlight> ncls: we need more details, why isn't it working, have you tried to connect it... so on, and so on...
[22:16] <ikonia> D3RGPS31: grub2 is not installed by defalt
[22:17] <ikonia> cypherdelic: that only cleans the source not the target install
[22:17] <cypherdelic> ikonia: or was it "clean; make clean"?
[22:17] <ikonia> cypherdelic: no, that only cleans the source buid.
[22:17] <cypherdelic> ikonia: so do you know what i have to do?
[22:17] <ikonia> cypherdelic: you'lll have to overwrite or remove the install components
[22:17] <D3RGPS31> i know the mount points, grub's been removed
[22:17] <ikonia> !grub > D3RGPS31
[22:17] <cypherdelic> ikonia: shouldnt sudo make install do thst (overwrite)?
[22:18] <ikonia> cypherdelic: depending on your configure options
[22:18] <cypherdelic> ikonia:  i dont know about that what s it?
[22:18] <Pici> cypherdelic: some developers include a make uninstall or a make remove... but definitely not all.
[22:18] <DIFH-iceroot> i am using ubuntu 8.04.1 with my eeepc (4gb) but the wlan and attansic NIC is not working. what should i do? i can not access the internet/ubuntu repos with the eeePC
[22:18] <ikonia> cypherdelic: the options specify where the product is to be installed, if you change that it won't overwrite it
[22:19] <cypherdelic> Pici: i will never try out a "sudo make uninstall" again last time it cripled my system
[22:19] <UltraNav> anyone here  using VirtualBox 1.6.2 and has USB working ?
[22:19] <Johnny> should i creat a dynamic dns with my own host name or their host name
[22:19] <D3RGPS31> ionia: i can't install Grub2 without /boot, and /boot doesn't exist =/
[22:19] <ljpp> ikonia, http://bernaard.iceleaf.net/welcome-ubuntu-804-lts-but-what-happened-to-ipw/
[22:19] <ikonia> D3RGPS31: are you sure you want to install grub2 and not grub
[22:19] <Blaqlight> !eeepc | DIFH-iceroot
[22:19] <D3RGPS31> ikonia: yes i'm sure
[22:19] <cypherdelic> ikonia: i din't change that i just enabled stufgf and make and sudo make install again
[22:19] <ikonia> ljpp: thats someones website, thats not a bug report, nor is that "mass reports"
[22:19] <alraune> sry, my pidgin crashed: is there a channel to discuss irc related questions ?
[22:19] <ompaul> ljpp, that is not a bug report, bug reports go to launchpad.net anyone can write an article
[22:19] <D3RGPS31> ikonia: if you can't support for that here, then i'll just go back to grub
[22:19] <Gillpy_> DIFH-iceroot: there is also #ubuntu-eeepc
[22:19] <Drk_Guy> i'm having issues with firestarter, even if i open the ports, aMule shows low-id, and i have router's FW disabled
[22:19] <ikonia> D3RGPS31: if you re-install the kernel it should re-create what you need
[22:20] <D3RGPS31> ikonia: thanks
[22:20] <ikonia> D3RGPS31: we can support grub2, just not many people really want it
[22:20] <Switchcat> is there a native .rar handler or what should I install to handle .rar archives? thanks
[22:20] <Blaqlight> alraune: like others have already told you; try #freenode.
[22:20] <UltraNav> alraune: type "/list" to get a list of available channels
[22:20] <Dethray> what is the diff from grub and grub2
[22:20] <Shujah> Drk_Guy, maybe you ought to port forward on router
[22:20] <genii> !unrar | Switchcat
[22:20] <DIFH-iceroot> Gillpy_: thx
[22:20] <ljpp> ikonia, https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=hardy+ipw
[22:20] <Switchcat> !info unrar-free
[22:20] <ljpp> appears to be some reports in the pad
[22:20] <Balian> went i start system I hawe error and login page has not started.  Wath is this and wath a can do ?
[22:21] <DIFH-iceroot> ubottu: look https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Fixes  what a crap... not every user had this error... but thx for the link
[22:21] <ikonia> ljpp: thats a ipw2220 search - not a bug report,
[22:21] <Kinks> Balian: what error? and can you log into the console? (what do you see?)
[22:21] <genii> Switchcat: unrar-free does not allow creation of rar is the main difference functionally
[22:21] <cypherdelic> ikonia: dont you have any idea why the sudo make install does not correctly overwrite the old installation i didnt change installation path
[22:21] <cygoku> Under Nautilus, is there anyway to add more List Columns preferencies/options (such as sorting image or video by resolution (like under Windows)) ?!?!?!?
[22:21] <ikonia> cypherdelic: I told you
[22:21] <ljpp> ikonia, was Linus refering to you about the wanking walruses?
[22:22] <Blaqlight> ...
[22:22] <Shujah> cypherdelic, mostly the default behavior is to keep the config files of same software you want to reinstall
[22:22] <cypherdelic> ikonia:  yopu told me, that when i change the option for the installation path it WONT overwrite it
[22:22] <Blaqlight> cygoku: right click on the columns
[22:22] <ikonia> cypherdelic: yes, and you said you didn't change the path
[22:22] <Blaqlight> column's header
[22:22] <Dethray> what's a good server for vnc or can I use vmware server?
[22:22] <Blaqlight> it should give you the options you want
[22:22] <cypherdelic> Shujah: So do you know which steps i have to go through to recompile and install mms?
[22:23] <genii> cypherdelic: If you have a previous install by compile when you want to re-make it with new options or so, do make clean first then repeat original make process
[22:23] <harisund> Dethray: VNC and Vmware server do two totally different things .. what are you trying to do?
[22:23] <Shujah> cypherdelic, no ikonia looks a better bet :P
[22:23] <ikonia> cypherdelic: you know what, you need to reconfigure, make it, and re-install it
[22:23] <Dethray> that's what I thought
[22:23] <Dethray> Remote desktop
[22:23] <Drk_Guy> Shujah: Nope, router's firewall id disabled, Firestarter worked fine on my previous hardy install
[22:23] <cypherdelic> genii: thats what i tried but "sudo make clean" i will try again without sudo, thanks for thant
[22:23] <cygoku> Blaqlight, Yes I know that, but I was wondering if there was any way or packages to give my MORE sorting options then what's already there.
[22:24] <Shujah> Drk_Guy, are you using moblock or any type of peer guardian type software
[22:24] <cypherdelic> ikonia: i did reconfigure, make and make install, i already said that, dont i???
[22:24] <mindbleach> hi. dmesg says I have a broadcom 4311 wireless chip, but lspci says I have a 4312 one... which one is correct??
[22:24] <ikonia> cypherdelic: so your done
[22:24] <Dethray> Any ideas harisund?
[22:24] <adamfalkofske> ﻿could someone help me get a memory stick duo work with my HP laptop?
[22:24] <Hillshum> My installation is stuck on 6% of "Select and Install Software." What do I do?
[22:24] <pizux> is ubuntu works on a intel base mac book ?
[22:24] <ikonia> pizux: sure
[22:24] <Dark_Shadow> hi
[22:24] <arthrone> hi guys
[22:24] <Dark_Shadow> http://www.hexavideo.com/
[22:24] <cypherdelic> ikonia: no because, i enabled clock, i enabled this and that, and ALL is missing, its still the same installation,
[22:25] <ikonia> cypherdelic: remove the old ones then
[22:25] <Dark_Shadow> i tried to run a film
[22:25] <cypherdelic> ikonia:  seems like you dont got my point right from the beginning
[22:25] <Dark_Shadow> but it said that  le plugin (application/x-mplayer2) est inconnu.
[22:25] <cypherdelic> ikonia: the old ones of what?
[22:25] <Drk_Guy> Shujah: Nope, only firestarter
[22:25] <ikonia> cypherdelic: the old binaries/libraries
[22:26] <harisund> Dethray: If remote desktop is what you want to do you can use X11vnc I think, or the default remote desktop option that comes with Ubuntu
[22:26] <genii> pizux: For the dual booting of macos and linux you'll likely want Bootcamp
[22:26] <Dethray> oh cool
[22:26] <Dethray> I'll do some searching, thanx harisund
[22:26] <Dark_Shadow> i'm asking you
[22:26] <Exuro> my problem: I finally got my wireless card up & running with the ndiswrapper, and I can see my network now, but I can't connect to it.  It's protected with a WEP 64-bit key, but it just prompts me for the key over and over...
[22:26] <Dark_Shadow> oO
[22:26] <Blaqlight> wow I like zsh better than bash for installing programs... its like the -v switch for all commands.
[22:26] <cypherdelic> ikonia: hm so it is ok if i remove the /usr/bin of mms and do make clean, ./configure --bla, make and sudo make install?
[22:26] <Dark_Shadow> no one could help???
[22:26] <Drk_Guy> Shujah: sorry, using pidgin, it won't alert you of new messages
[22:27] <Shujah> Drk_Guy, open firestarter go to policy > outbound policy > is it restrictive by default?
[22:27] <arthrone> sorry to bother u guys but i am wondering how to swith on my xgl 3d pulpit. I would be gr8ful if some 1 can guide me throught this (sorry for my english)
[22:27] <Blaqlight> Exuro: you useing nm-applet?
[22:27] <ikonia> cypherdelic: correct
[22:27] <cypherdelic> ikonia, genii thanks for your help
[22:27] <Drk_Guy> Shujah: permissive
[22:27] <chhahz> Hey all, having issues installing elo touch drivers to ubunto 8.04, can anyone assist?
[22:27] <metalpres> is it possible to get hardware accelerated video playback in ubuntu? or any linux distros i guess
[22:28] <Balian> Kinks i can't  login. I see only black monitor ad info : starting program has not work correctly
[22:28] <Shujah> Drk_Guy, sorry these are the usual suspects can't help here
[22:28] <DRebellion> metalpres, of course.
[22:28] <metalpres> i can play 1080p video in windows smoothly, but in ubuntu I cant even get 720p video to play well
[22:28] <Blaqlight> anyone here use erc for emacs?
[22:28] <DRebellion> metalpres, what video card have you got?
[22:28] <Drk_Guy> Shujah: :(
[22:29] <metalpres> nvidia 8600
[22:29] <DRebellion> metalpres, have you installed the drivers?
[22:29] <Johnny> i set up a dyndyns hostname how do i ssh in
[22:29] <metalpres> running latest nvidia drivers
[22:29] <kokko> I cannot watch youtube, can anyone tell me whats the problem there?
[22:29] <Johnny> i get ping replies
[22:29] <Drk_Guy> !enyng | DRebellion
[22:29] <Johnny> but ssh gets refused
[22:29] <DRebellion> Drk_Guy, ?
[22:29] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: that is not the first port of call
[22:29] <Drk_Guy> !envyng | DRebellion
[22:29] <Shujah> dude you cant get a 720p video to play on a nvidia 8600 :|
[22:29] <Drk_Guy> ikonia: Huh?
[22:29] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: pay attention to the "UNSUPPORTED" words in that factoid
[22:29] <Dethray> anyone know of a good free, dynamic dns service? :)
[22:29] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: nvidia problems do not = envyng
[22:29] <ikonia> Dethray: not an ubuntu issue
[22:30] <th0r> Dethray, dyndns
[22:30] <chhahz> anyone? touch screen installation help ?
[22:30] <Dethray> Sorry
[22:30] <Drk_Guy> ikonia: envy was unsupported, envyng is supported
[22:30] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: community support still creates a lot of efforts
[22:30] <Dethray> One that works in ubuntu. ;)
[22:30] <Drk_Guy> ikonia: anyway, i had a VERY uncool hard time with my nvidia card, envyng fixed it with some clicks ;)
[22:30] <Drk_Guy> ikonia: It has saved me two times
[22:30] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: hundreds would say the oposite
[22:31] <Johnny> how do i get dyndns to let me ssh in?
[22:31] <Dethray> Agreed ikonia
[22:31] <ikonia> Johnny: not an ubuntu issue
[22:31] <DRebellion> Johnny, forward port 22 to your router
[22:31] <{buster}> I like Ubuntu and I probably won't use Windows again, despite being new to Linux :)
[22:31] <ikonia> Johnny: once dns is set up, and mapped to an ip - if you install the openssh-server package you can ssh in
[22:31] <Drk_Guy> ikonia: Still, it was a suggestion, if you don't like it :/
[22:31] <metalpres> DRebellion: Nvidia 8600 GTS with the latest nforce drivers
[22:31] <Dethray> I don't have many issues with ubuntu, everything works just fine. :)
[22:31] <DRebellion> metalpres, well *shrug*
[22:31] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: suggestions are fine - but that is not the first thing to sugggest
[22:32] <Drk_Guy> {buster}: :), i've done the complete switch, no regrets
[22:32] <metalpres> DRebellion: what do you mean *shrug*?  I thought you said you knew how?
[22:32] <{buster}> very good :-)
[22:32] <DRebellion> metalpres, i don't.
[22:32] <Drk_Guy> ikonia: i don't find envyng messing up with the system too much
[22:32] <Johnny> ikonia, is there something i can set up so say i connect my laptop at a friends house and using his wireless router it will automatically assign an ip based on the domain i choose
[22:32] <metalpres> DRebellion: ok
[22:32] <Exuro> ﻿Blaqlight: sorry, I got distracted.  what's nm-applet? the network manager? yes. I tried wicd too but that didn't work either, and then my wire connection stopped working and I couldn't reinstall nm and I had to go download it to a flash drive and install it from there...
[22:32] <{buster}> no more paying hunders for windows, related products, and crashes :)
[22:32] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: as I said hundreds will disagree- re-read the factoid you posted, the fact that it's warning you "results may vary" says a lot
[22:33] <Drk_Guy> ikonia: Anyway...
[22:33] <ikonia> {buster}: if you want to chat about non-support issues #ubuntu-offtopic is the best place
[22:33] <Drk_Guy> ikonia: You know any good iptables managing soft?
[22:33] <Drk_Guy> ikonia: Firestarter kinda fails for me
[22:33] <godmode117> is anybody here running utorrent under wine?
[22:33] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: people like firestarter, fwbuilder, I don't like them though
[22:34] <ikonia> godmode117: people in #wine will be
[22:34] <ScrewdriverClock> does anyone know of a good guide for getting Skype to work?
[22:34] <Shujah> godmode117, I did but then switched to deluge
[22:34] <wnstn> my cpu is overwhelmed. should I upgrade or buy a new box?
[22:34] <Kinks> godmode117: that isn't really something to be asking here, but yes, I am
[22:34] <Gillpy_> !skype
[22:34] <godmode117> thanks ikonia
[22:34] <Drk_Guy> ikonia: fwbuilder is really complex
[22:34] <godmode117> well is there anything special i need to do?
[22:34] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: as I said, I don't rate them
[22:34] <Kinks> godmode117: no
[22:34] <Drk_Guy> ikonia: and firestarter seems to be failing for some really odd reason
[22:34] <Johnny> is there anything i can use to dial out to a cell phone?
[22:34] <Kinks> godmode117: wine utorrent.exe, the end.
[22:35] <godmode117> ok thanks
[22:35] <Drk_Guy> ikonia: do you use pure iptables?
[22:35] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: yes
[22:35] <godmode117> btw #wine is invite only
[22:35] <ncls> can someone tell me how to get my external screen to work?
[22:35] <ikonia> godmode117: no it's not
[22:35] <Drk_Guy> ikonia: nice, can you guide me how to see which ports are open?
[22:35] <godmode117> thats what it said when i tried to connect
[22:35] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: netstat -a | grep LIST
[22:36] <ikonia> godmode117: winehq is the correct channel, sorry
[22:36] <godmode117> o ok thanks
[22:36] <Drk_Guy> ok, ikonia
[22:36] <chhahz>  can anyone help with getting an elo touchscreen to work
[22:36] <Drk_Guy> ikonia: No output
[22:36] <elo> no
[22:36] <Drk_Guy> ikonia: Just blinkin' cursor
[22:36] <Kinks> Drk_Guy: then you're not listening on any ports
[22:36] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: give it a minute
[22:37] <elo> i cant help you with my touchscreen
[22:37] <Kinks> or that...
[22:37] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: netstat -a | grep LIST
[22:37] <Johnny> how can i use my computer to call a cell phone
[22:37] <ompaul> !touchscreen
[22:37] <Shujah> Drk_Guy, patience dude it'll take some time
[22:37] <chhahz> heh
[22:37] <elo> ;)
[22:37] <Drk_Guy> ikonia: Ok
[22:37] <Balian> Kinks i can't  login. I see only black monitor ad info : starting program has not work correctly
[22:37] <ncls> ﻿can someone tell me how to get my external screen to work?
[22:37] <Drk_Guy> ompaul: Err... compiz has touchscreen plugins
[22:38] <Shujah> the improvement in spelling is rather welcoming
[22:38] <Drk_Guy> ompaul: A quick googling shall help you
[22:38] <Drk_Guy> ikonia: The command exited by itself, no output
[22:38] <ScrewdriverClock> gstreamer-properties-Message: Error running pipeline 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture': Could not open audio device for recording. [gstalsasrc.c(640): gst_alsasrc_open (): /pipeline3/alsasrc5:
[22:38] <ScrewdriverClock> Recording open error on device 'default': Invalid argument]
[22:38] <ScrewdriverClock> could someone explain this error?
[22:38] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: thats VERY odd
[22:38] <Kinks> Balian: if you type your username and enter, are you prompted for a password? the "Login:" prompt might be before some of the 'info'
[22:38] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: or you indeed have nothing listening
[22:38] <Drk_Guy> !sound | ScrewdriverClock
[22:39] <Drk_Guy> ikonia: Gonna open aMule and retry
[22:39] <ompaul> Drk_Guy, it was not for me - I was expecting the bot to know there is something out there
[22:39] <chhahz> compiz is installed but nothing to do with touchscreen that i see
[22:39] <ScrewdriverClock> my problem is with input, not output
[22:39] <ScrewdriverClock> hearing sounds in alsa is not a problem
[22:39] <Kinks> Balian: my guess is that the display driver X uses isn't working (ie. probably is not the right one) and your gui login is failing to run, in which case you can log in via console to address the issue - if not, try booting into recovery mode
[22:39] <ScrewdriverClock> my problem comes in using alsa for recording.
[22:39] <Drk_Guy> ompaul: :/
[22:40] <Drk_Guy> ScrewdriverClock: Read those guides, they may help you
[22:40] <Drk_Guy> ikonia: Still, no output
[22:40] <Balian> Kinks No i can't do eny thing bicouse i can't login
[22:40] <slasher> LOL
[22:41] <Kinks> Balian: okay, what errors do you see?
[22:41] <Drk_Guy> Balian: If GDM won't start, i suggest pressing Ctrl+Alt+F1, and have a text-login
[22:41] <Drk_Guy> Balian: But thats just me, follow Kink's guidelines
[22:41] <Exuro> ﻿my problem: I finally got my wireless card up & running with the ndiswrapper, and I can see my network now, but I can't connect to it.  It's protected with a WEP 64-bit key, but it just prompts me for the key over and over...
[22:41] <kaktuspalme> hello all
[22:41] <Kinks> actually, that's a good idea, I think the init log is confusing him and making him think he can't log in
[22:41] <Drk_Guy> Exuro: ndiswrapper is kinda uncool, have you tried madwifi?
[22:41] <harisund> Is Fluxbuntu supported by Ubuntu like Kubuntu/Xubuntu etc?
[22:42] <Kinks> Balian: what do you see if you press ctrl+alt+f2?
[22:42] <kaktuspalme> how can i find out which file is assigned to which package?
[22:42] <Exuro> no, I haven't tried that
[22:42] <kaktuspalme> which file belongs to which package?
[22:42] <Drk_Guy> !fluxbox | harisund
[22:42] <tlove> hello
[22:42] <Drk_Guy> kaktuspalme: apt-cache show <package>
[22:42] <ompaul> kaktuspalme, apt-cache search foo and apt-cache show
[22:42] <Exuro> is it easy to configure? because I've had a lot of problems...
[22:42] <genii> harisund: As far as i know only Ubuntu and Kubuntu are officially supported
[22:43] <Drk_Guy> Exuro: ./configure, make, sudo make install, and reboot, done, you have wireless on
[22:43] <Drk_Guy> Exuro: Done two times, it's reliable
[22:43] <Balian> ok i have terminal and wath
[22:43] <serkan`c> genii: xubuntu, gobuntu
[22:43] <tlove> Can Ubuntu run Java? I seem to be having a problem installing it, can someone please help me out?
[22:43] <harisund> genii: oh! ok thanks . I thought Xubuntu was too, but good to know in any case
[22:43] <serkan`c> i am not sure about gobuntu
[22:43] <Drk_Guy> Balian: Input commands, normally, try typing startx ;)
[22:44] <D3RGPS31> I'm install grub =D but stage1 doesn't exist period, what do I do? (reinstalled the kernel)
[22:44] <Drk_Guy> tlove: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin
[22:44] <Shujah> tlove, Hardy comes with openjava installed you can try sun java
[22:44] <Drk_Guy> !java | tlove
[22:44] <kaktuspalme> Drk_Guy: apt-cache search and apt-cache show give me no results: /etc/pulse/default.pa
[22:44] <Drk_Guy> kaktuspalme: ummm, pulse is from pulseadio package
[22:44] <Drk_Guy> kaktuspalme: apt-cache can only show packages info
[22:45] <Drk_Guy> kaktuspalme: anyway, i think you can try: apt-cache dump | grep <file> just to see
[22:45] <kaktuspalme> Drk_Guy: i've deleted /etc/pulse, reinstalling doesnt give me these files
[22:45] <Drk_Guy> kaktuspalme: Weird
[22:45] <Balian> Dark_Guy i don't undestant  watch you mean input commands?
[22:45] <jacoblyles> How can I access files on my cdrom drive from the command line? In windows, this would be something like d:\
[22:45] <Drk_Guy> Balian: Type the commands
[22:45] <Drk_Guy> jacoblyles: sudo fdisk -l
[22:46] <Kinks> Balian: type 'startx' in the console (without the quotes), and see if it gives you an error, if it does, let us know what that error message is
[22:46] <Drk_Guy> jacoblyles: they're ususally mounted @ /mount/cdrom0
[22:46] <jacoblyles> okay I did that, now what?
[22:46] <genii> jacoblyles: Usually the cdrom contents are mounted (spliced) into the filesystem at /media/cdrom
[22:46] <Shujah> jacoblyles, in Ubuntu its like \media\cdrom0\filename
[22:46] <tlove> Drk_Guy: thats what i was looking for, thanks.
[22:46] <Exuro> ﻿Drk_Guy:will that work with my card?
[22:46] <Gillpy_> genii: what is spliced ?
[22:46] <Drk_Guy> Exuro: It works for Atheros cards
[22:46] <Exuro> ﻿Drk_Guy:I'm using Broadcom
[22:46] <kokko> Hey. I cannot watch youtube, can anyone help me with the problem there?
[22:46] <Drk_Guy> !madwifi | Exuro
[22:47] <Drk_Guy> !Broadcom | Exur
[22:47] <Kinks> kokko: have you installed the flash plugin for your browser?
[22:47] <Drk_Guy> :)
[22:47] <jacoblyles> thanks guys
[22:47] <Drk_Guy> jacoblyles: NP
[22:47] <kokko> Kinks : I did from package manager.
[22:47] <genii> Gillpy_: When something is mounted in linux there is no c: d: e: and so on like windows. The contents of the new thing are just added into the existing filesystem by appearing underneath a directory which already exists
[22:47] <Drk_Guy> !flash | kokko
[22:47] <Kinks> kokko: which browser are you using?
[22:47] <D3RGPS31> When install grub, stage1 doesn't exist, what do i do to get stage1?
[22:47] <Kinks> kokko: or yeah, follow that first..
[22:48] <kokko> Kinks : firefox 3.1
[22:48] <kokko> ok let me check
[22:48] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: You might be lacking /boot dir
[22:48] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: It is essencial for boot-up procedures
[22:48] <D3RGPS31> Drk_Guy it's there, i just reinstalled my kernels
[22:48] <Rev> hello
[22:48] <Drk_Guy> !grub | D3RGPS31
[22:48] <D3RGPS31> Drk_Guy: after deleting boot
[22:48] <D3RGPS31> Drk_Guy and that doesn't help me
[22:48] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: Try looking at those guides
[22:48] <varitech> hello
[22:49] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: Weird, so you made custom kernels, and now your system won't boot?
[22:49] <lunch> what i gotta do if i install win xp on after ubuntu is install? how to reinstall grub?
[22:49] <Rev> can someone help me to modify the fstab in order to make my USB hard drive to et mounted at a specified folder each time i plug it in instead of /media/disk?
[22:49] <genii> !grub | lunch
[22:49] <D3RGPS31> Drk_Gut no, they're the generic kernels
[22:49] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: Vanilla ones?
[22:49] <Drk_Guy> !fstab | Rev
[22:50] <D3RGPS31> Drk_Guy bingo
[22:50] <Drk_Guy> Rev: If it is NTFS, you can use ntfs-config program to quickly configure them
[22:50] <antisaga> ))))
[22:50] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: Dude, generic is stock ubuntu kernel, vanilla comes from kernel.org
[22:51] <Rev> Drk_Guy, there are 2 FAT32 partitions ;p
[22:51] <lunch> genii, how to run live cd to install grub with gnome interface?
[22:51] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: It seems you forgot to add it's entry to the /boot/grub/menu.lst ;)
[22:51] <D3RGPS31> Dark_Guy i had the impression vanilla was an unmodified kernel for ubuntu
[22:51] <Drk_Guy> Rev: Umm, read the fstab thingy, it's easy
[22:51] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: nope
[22:51] <Drk_Guy> !kernel | D3RGPS31
[22:51] <nisim777> #boobs
[22:51] <Balian> Kinks wen i write in terminal 'startx' i hawe fatal server error, and inwalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keygiving up
[22:52] <D3RGPS31> Dark_Guy i reinstalled my kernels 'cause boot was deleted, it's back but grub isn't, though it's reinstalled
[22:52] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: Try setting it up again
[22:52] <genii> lunch: Use the procedure which the bot points you to in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[22:52] <Kinks> D3RGPS31: why was boot deleted? heh
[22:53] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: sudo grub and all that stuff, you might know that by now
[22:53] <D3RGPS31> Kinks: i had to reinstall grub through backtrack2 'cause i didn't have an ubuntu disc at hand, the installation was only good enough to startup buuntu
[22:53] <Kinks> Balian: I'm not sure what that is, but I'll try to figure it out for you.
[22:53] <Rev> Drk_Guy, there is nothing about a media/disk in the fstab
[22:53] <Exuro> ﻿Drk_Guy:what am I supposed to do with that?
[22:53] <D3RGPS31> Drk_Guy but stage1 doesn't exist so i can't install it
[22:53] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: Ummm, backtrack2 uses lilo man
[22:53] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: you have to reconfigure it all over again
[22:53] <D3RGPS31> Drk_Guy i installed grub in it =/
[22:53] <Drk_Guy> Exuro: Read those docs
[22:54] <Exuro> ﻿Drk_Guy:isn't that the same driver under System->Administration->Hardware Drivers?
[22:54] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: Still, you need to reconfigure it
[22:54] <Drk_Guy> Exuro: I'm not experimented with wifi, the madwifi thingy was trial-and-error
[22:54] <D3RGPS31> Drk_Guy can i do that without stage1?
[22:55] <Kinks> Balian: try doing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:55] <Kinks> Balian: if that doesn't fix it, I really have no idea how to help you; try googling for your error and seeing what you can find
[22:55] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: Reinstall lilo from backtrack's live CD and use it to reconfigure everything up
[22:55] <Drk_Guy> !lilo | D3RGPS31
[22:56] <D3RGPS31> Drk_Guy why use lilo?
[22:56] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: Ask backtrack's team dude
[22:56] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: Lilo is really deprecated now
[22:56] <D3RGPS31> Drk_Guy no, why use lilo to reconfigure when i'm booted off of grub right now, but grub has been deleted (along with its config files)
[22:57] <lch> I'm looking for Webmin alternatives, suggestions?
[22:57] <genii> !EBOX
[22:57] <genii> !info ebox
[22:57] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: You have to renistall ubuntu to regenerate those files, still, you may be lucky enough for ubuntu to get backtrack
[22:57] <demonicblue> can someone tell me how i know if i got the 32 or 64-bit of Ubuntu(used Wubi)
[22:57] <D3RGPS31> Drk_Guy oh god D=
[22:58] <D3RGPS31> anyone wanna give me their stage1 file...
[22:58] <Drk_Guy> demonicblue: try installing ia32-libs, if they don't install, then your in 32 bits
[22:58] <g-hennux> hi!
[22:58] <demonicblue> Drk_Guy: it doesn't tell elsewere?
[22:58] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: lol, still, you can use GRUB to boot backtrack (the nicest-looking distro i've ever seen ;)
[22:58] <powertool08> demonicblue: uname -a
[22:58] <Drk_Guy> demonicblue: afaik, no
[22:58] <D3RGPS31> Drk_Guy i wanna cry D=
[22:59] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: XD
[22:59] <g-hennux> somehow i cannot get my builtin microphone to work :-(
[22:59] <D3RGPS31> Drk_Guy wait, give me your stage1 file =D
[22:59] <powertool08> demonicblue: if it says i386/686 its 32 bit,
[22:59] <tlove> Hey i was trying to install sun java and it like stop working. so i just restarted my pc. and attempted to re-run it and it tells me to run 'dpkg --configure -a'
[22:59] <tlove> someone help me out
[22:59] <iiiiiiiiii> can some one help me with samba.conf i set it up but its giving access to everyone in the network..how do i make it so it asks for a login name? fyi im using smbpasswd not tdbsam
[22:59] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: Risky, but i'll do it
[22:59] <D3RGPS31> Drk_Guy woooo
[22:59] <g-hennux> i have an external usb sound card for playback, that works fine
[22:59] <lch> genii, thanks for the tip, but I'm trying out ebox right now and it's more breaking than working
[22:59] <demonicblue> powertool08: it sais x86_64
[22:59] <powertool08> demonicblue: then its 64 but
[22:59] <Drk_Guy> tlove: sudo update-alternatives --configure java
[22:59] <powertool08> bit
[22:59] <Drk_Guy> demonicblue: 64 bits
[23:00] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: I'll ifile.it it
[23:00] <D3RGPS31> Drk_Guy i'm happy :d
[23:00] <D3RGPS31> ;D
[23:00] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: http://ifile.it/wo5bnti
[23:01] <Drk_Guy> Still, /boot folder contains so much files
[23:01] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31:
[23:01] <genii> lch: There is another called cipux but no package exists yet for ubuntu, I think
[23:01] <roadfish> how do I put the 8.04 ISO onto a USB memory card? that is, so that I can install from USB?
[23:01] <Balian> Kinks is not working ......
[23:02] <Drk_Guy> !eeepc | roadfish
[23:02] <roadfish> Drk_Guy: ok, thanks
[23:02] <Drk_Guy> roadfish: it tells how to do it somewhere around there
[23:02] <Drk_Guy> ;)
[23:02] <Blaqlight> Drk_Guy: ? lol oh
[23:02] <tlove> Drk_Guy: that didn't do much. Im still kinda stuck.
[23:02] <cygoku> Blaqlight, Yes I know that, but I was wondering if there was any way or packages to give my MORE sorting options then what's already there.
[23:02] <Kinks> roadfish: I'd recommend putting a net install onto a usb key (assuming you have an ethernet connection on the machine)
[23:03] <inspyre> VBOX module is behind on kernel update
[23:03] <Drk_Guy> Hi Blaqlight
[23:03] <Blaqlight> cygoku: Im sorry... for what again?
[23:03] <Filthy-God> WOOT
[23:03] <Filthy-God> HAL UPDATE!!!
[23:03] <Blaqlight> Drk_Guy: :D
[23:03] <demonicblue> powertool08: and do you know why my computer beep everytime i get a IRC message from someone?
[23:03] <Drk_Guy> tlove: Dude, it's weird, but dpkg needs root permissions (sudo)
[23:03] <Drk_Guy> XD
[23:03] <roadfish> Kinks: I'm on dialup and have a copy of the ISO ... so I'm guessing that I don't want to use net install.
[23:03] <Drk_Guy> demonicblue: it's normal, XChat does it by deafult
[23:03] <Drk_Guy> *default
[23:03] <inspyre> anyone have using vbox? with the newest kernel?
[23:03] <Stargazer> Can i download email with Finch ?
[23:04] <powertool08> demonicblue: its setup to do it, I ddon't know much about xchat to turn it off tho
[23:04] <demonicblue> i'm using chatzilla in ff
[23:04] <Kinks> roadfish: you're probably right :)
[23:04] <Drk_Guy> Filthy-God: lol?
[23:04] <tlove> Drk_Guy: Clearly im new. Mind helping me out for a sec? I realize that but i dont know what to type.
[23:04] <Filthy-God> I had a huge complaint about software issues
[23:04] <Filthy-God> and It was on this computer
[23:04] <Filthy-God> well today
[23:04] <Kinks> roadfish: do be warned that simply shoving an iso on a usb key won't magically work - it expects the media to be on a cdrom, so follow instructions carefully
[23:04] <Drk_Guy> demonicblue: Still, it's a system alert, it beeps
[23:04] <Blaqlight> cygoku: I can't do a buffer search in gnome-terminal.
[23:04] <powertool08> demonicblue: browse around the settings under sounds
[23:04] <Filthy-God> They released an HAL update...
[23:04] <demonicblue> powertool08: using chatzilla in ff cos i'm noob
[23:04] <Drk_Guy> tlove: k
[23:04] <Filthy-God> and I was like.,... REALLY
[23:04] <Filthy-God> OMG
[23:04] <FloodBot1> Filthy-God: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:04] <demonicblue> Drk_Guy: wierd and very annoying
[23:04] <Drk_Guy> Filthy-God: HAL updates are for wireless cards, am i wrong?
[23:05] <Filthy-God> HAL, Hardware Abstraction Layer....
[23:05] <Drk_Guy> demonicblue: I like it, but ask someone else how to disable it ;)
[23:05] <dcestari> anyone with swfdec on firefox? I can't remove it!
[23:05] <Filthy-God> Sounds like more than just wireless cards.... much to do with the motherboard I assume as well.
[23:05] <Drk_Guy> Filthy-God: I know, but only real use i got for them are for Wireless cards
[23:05] <demonicblue> Drk_Guy: hope someone does cos it's late and disturbing
[23:05] <Drk_Guy> Filthy-God: I have had no HAL updates
[23:05] <Drk_Guy> !HAL > Drk_Guy
[23:06] <Filthy-God> run a manual check for updates
[23:06] <Filthy-God> I just got 30 today
[23:06] <dm> I have a 4 speaker 1 sub setup on a 7.1 card, and i cant seem to get the back speakers to have sound.
[23:06] <Stargazer> Anybody know if Finch is capable of downloading Email like an email client ?
[23:06] <Drk_Guy> Filthy-God: I've got 31 from backports ;)
[23:06] <Blaqlight> Filthy-God: just curious, how did you do that.
[23:07] <D3RGPS31> Drk_Guy ifile.it doesn't work right on my side >.>
[23:07] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: Weird, uploading somewhere else
[23:07] <Filthy-God> do what?
[23:07] <derrich> I installed alsa-oss earlier today (for WoW + wine), and now I'm having trouble using the sound card in regular applications (running 'aoss <application>' doesn't work either).
[23:07] <phantomcircuit> >.>
[23:07] <derrich> I can use the sound test app in System -> Preferences -> Sound
[23:07] <Filthy-God> how did I do what?
[23:07] <Drk_Guy> D3RGPS31: http://rapidshare.com/files/133931326/stage1.html
[23:07] <derrich> When I click 'test', I hear the output - but no other applications give me sound :(
[23:08] <FLUbuntu> derrich: what video card do you have for running WOW in wine?
[23:08] <Filthy-God> I'm so confused right now.
[23:08] <moreau> derrich: tell other apps to use ALSA and see what happens
[23:08] <D3RGPS31> Drk_Guy thanks =D
[23:08] <inspyre> anyone have using vbox? with the newest kernel?
[23:08] <derrich> FLUbuntu: GeForce 7600 GS
[23:08] <Blaqlight> Filthy-God: nothing, second you might want to utilize the tab funtion to show whom your talking to.. :P
[23:08] <Kinks> derrich: just curious, does wow run decently in wine? heh
[23:09] <Kinks> s/in/under/
[23:09] <derrich> Kinks: I've heard it does, though I haven't tried it yet ... still working on getting there
[23:09] <FLUbuntu> derrich: I have a ATI Mobility X300 and am having tons of issues
[23:09] <Drk_Guy> tlove: you there?
[23:09] <Drk_Guy> tlove: sorry
[23:09] <Blaqlight> Kinks: it does here, flawlessly
[23:09] <derrich> FLUbuntu: ATI under Linux kinda sucks
[23:09] <derrich> but it's not a video issue at this point
[23:09] <cygoku> Blaqlight : I know how to go to the preferencies of the Column's List, but I want is to ADD MORE options to the available list.
[23:09] <Filthy-God> i like blind responses
[23:09] <derrich> i just seem to have borked my sound setup
[23:09] <ChristianB> Hello, anyone up for a simple question from me? Every time I turn on my laptop I need to controll the contrast/backlight with FN + Keys , is thee a way to permanent set this so I don't have to on every start up?
[23:10] <Blaqlight> Kinks: I know others that use it there also, again flwlessly
[23:10] <FLUbuntu> derrich: that is what I am reading, but I do not have much choice on this laptop
[23:10] <Drk_Guy> derrich: Someone's making a driver for ATi, opensource, and with 3D capabilities
[23:10] <derrich> Drk_Guy: the 'radeon' and 'ati' drivers exist
[23:10] <Kinks> Blaqlight: hm, almost tempting, thanks for the info
[23:10] <derrich> but they have limited 3d capabilities
[23:10] <derrich> the 'fglrx' driver is the full-on device
[23:10] <Drk_Guy> derrich: I think their just 2D accelerated
[23:10] <Drk_Guy> :(
[23:10] <Exuro> I can't connect to my wireless network.  I can see it, but when I try to connect it keeps prompting me for the security key.  It's WEB-64bit encrypted.
[23:10] <Blaqlight> cygoku: I don't know if thats possible. Im sure there is some file or menu option somewhere that might but I have no clue where to start looking.
[23:10] <derrich> which is what i think you want for the X300, btw
[23:11] <Drk_Guy> derrich: this guy is making full-3D
[23:11] <Blaqlight> cygoku: it just wouldn't be linux without the ability to change it :D
[23:11] <FLUbuntu> yes, for running WOW you need 3D
[23:11] <Drk_Guy> Exuro: Tried the broadcom stuff i sent you?
[23:11] <cygoku> :)
[23:11] <powertool08> Drk_Guy: does he have a project page?
[23:11] <Kinks> Exuro: I'm guessing it connects fine with encryption turned off? (assuming you can even try that..)
[23:11] <Drk_Guy> powertool08: yes, but don't have URL, i read it from compiz-fusion.org
[23:11] <Filthy-God> Calculators can run WOW... no need for 3D
[23:11] <Filthy-God> Wow is too optimized.
[23:12] <dm> not really
[23:12] <FLUbuntu> Calculators?
[23:12] <Filthy-God> It's destroying the concept of Death.
[23:12] <dm> I have a 4 speaker 1 sub setup on a 7.1 card, and i cant seem to get the back speakers to have sound.
[23:12] <Drk_Guy> XD
[23:12] <Filthy-God> I've run wow on low end old ass computers.
[23:12] <derrich> Drk_Guy: well, if it's being done by somebody besides ATI, maybe it won't be dog crap
[23:12] <Drk_Guy> !sound | dm
[23:12] <Blaqlight> cygoku: you might check the nautilus man pages for possible config files...
[23:12] <Drk_Guy> derrich: XD
[23:12] <Exuro> ﻿Drk_Guy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager?action=show&redirect=WifiDocs%2FNetworkManager#Notes
[23:12] <cygoku> True I will do that.
[23:12] <FLUbuntu> WOW crashed on boot when the closed ATI drivers are running
[23:13] <Exuro> ﻿Drk_Guy:it makes reference to the ndiswrapper there
[23:13] <Exuro> so I should be ok using that...
[23:13] <derrich> Drk_Guy: i end up testing a lot of ATI and NVIDIA cards at work, and ATI drivers are only mediocre in Windows - terrible in Linux
[23:13] <Blaqlight> Filthy-God: please watch your language, this is a family friendly channel
[23:13] <D3RGPS31> Drk_Guy now i need stage2 >.>
[23:13] <inspyre> where do i post a bug bout the vbox module not being updated with the kernel
[23:14] <Filthy-God> what did I say?
[23:14] <D3RGPS31> inspyre: i had that same problem, it isn't a bug, it's just them getting up to date
[23:14] <derrich> a three letter word for 'behind'
[23:14] <Exuro> ﻿Drk_Guy:do you really think it's a driver problem?
[23:14] <dm> Drk_Guy I do have sound... just not out of rear speakers.
[23:14] <Filthy-God> Take it as an animal.
[23:14] <Filthy-God> There, I'm in the clear.
[23:14] <Exuro> ﻿Drk_Guy:if the driver had a problem I wouldn't be able to see the network at all, right?
[23:14] <Drk_Guy> Exuro: maybe, windows stuff is obscure
[23:14] <Drk_Guy> Exuro: Try using madwifi
[23:15] <Exuro> ﻿Drk_Guy:but that's not for my card type
[23:15] <Blaqlight> Filthy-God: we all knew what you meant, please just watch your language.
[23:15] <Filthy-God> animals get old right?
[23:15] <Filthy-God> Really
[23:15] <simara> how can I enter in ubuntu brasil? anyone help me
[23:15] <Filthy-God> I can't see any derivation of any specific meaning for that word.
[23:15] <genii> simara: /j #ubuntu-br
[23:15] <derrich> Filthy-God: this is a stupid argument. i also have a filthy mouth and knew very well what you meant.
[23:15] <Filthy-God> Really
[23:15] <derrich> arguing the semantics of it is juvenile and pointless
[23:15] <Filthy-God> So you are assuming.
[23:15] <brian_malice> hi some one know a msn for linux with microphone conversation??
[23:15] <n3t0> simara qual tua duvida?
[23:16] <Filthy-God> Assume has that word too
[23:16] <plouffe> I lose all sound on my laptop when I close the lid (suspend state) and log back in after. Any ideas how to fix that?
[23:16] <bastid_raZor> i type df -h and i'm a bit confused as to why fuse has anything mounted.. : gvfs-fuse-daemon      9.9G  3.6G  5.9G  38% /home/razor/.gvfs   that is the same exact size as /
[23:16] <anirudh0> brian_malice: empathy works with gtalk voice
[23:16] <anirudh0> skype also has voice support..none others works afaik
[23:16] <Filthy-God> it originally came from the animal
[23:16] <brian_malice> :S
[23:16] <n3t0> simara ?
[23:16] <Drk_Guy> Exuro:
[23:16] <Drk_Guy> Exuro: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[23:16] <Blaqlight> !fuse | bastid_raZor
[23:16] <Drk_Guy> Try that
[23:16] <Filthy-God> So... I can simply defend myself with that argument and I'm good.
[23:17] <anirudh0> !troll
[23:17] <brian_malice> and a msn that can do a conversation with more peoples at the same time?
[23:18] <anirudh0> brian_malice: i think pidgin and kopete support msn..dont know about conference abilities
[23:18] <abchirk> !compiz-fusion
[23:18] <bastid_raZor> Blaqlight; so why is this done be default when i am the only user on this box. hence i have root abilities
[23:19] <brian_malice> but it no have an option for talk with more than 1 people
[23:19] <n3t0> ho is the ubuntu forum webmaster?
[23:19] <selvi> i'm selvi,i can not open my skype.why?
[23:19] <Blaqlight> bastid_raZor: read the site that factoid suggests, it all makes sense, I know because I had to read it also :P
[23:19] <bastid_raZor> Blaqlight; you're on hardy right? do you have this mounted
[23:19] <neil`-> hi
[23:19] <neil`-> i installed apache with mod_rwrite, but it doesnt work. i have only one rule: RewriteEngine on      RewriteRule ^.* /imgs/noimg_com.gif [L]     And it doesnt do anything. Could you help me why?
[23:19] <Filthy-God> Proceeds to try and destroy the ozone with his mouth.
[23:19] <Blaqlight> bastid_raZor: yes we all do
[23:19] <Filthy-God> ciao
[23:19] <AU-8423> ciao
[23:20] <bastid_raZor> Blaqlight; ah, something new from hardy on then.. gutsy did not have this.
[23:20] <Blaqlight> bastid_raZor: its a virtual filesystem kinda, its not using any space.
[23:21] <Blaqlight> bastid_raZor: just make sure your part of the fuse group or you can't mount cdroms...
[23:21] <Blaqlight> bastid_raZor: among others...
[23:22] <bastid_raZor> Blaqlight; can't mount cd's? what?
[23:22] <Blaqlight> bastid_raZor: if your not part of the 'fuse' group you can't mount cdroms unless your root :P
[23:23] <bastid_raZor> Blaqlight; oh, i see. and yes i am part of fuse. thanks for the info
[23:23] <Blaqlight> bastid_raZor: I assume it allows common users to read/write removable media/filesystems without being sudo.
[23:25] <bastid_raZor> Blaqlight; i do use thumb drives and sd cards quite a bit..
[23:25] <Blaqlight> bastid_raZor: after an upgrade I was removed from that group and I had to be sudo to mount/read/write/ cdroms
[23:26] <harpreet> anyone help me with installing my internal modem on toshiba satellite?
[23:26] <Blaqlight> bastid_raZor: once added back I had no problems, also the drive would show on the desktop only when I mounted it being a part of the fuse group.
[23:26] <plouffe> I lose all sound on my laptop when I close the lid (suspend state) and log back in after. Any ideas how to fix that?
[23:26] <Swish> there must be some setting somewhere to tell ubuntu to not do anything when you close the lid :)
[23:27] <bastid_raZor> Blaqlight; technically, that is taking up space. i notice my drive is showing 10G less capacity than before the upgrade. no big deal though.. TB is soon to be added
[23:27] <Blaqlight> plouffe: are you on hardy 8.04?
[23:27] <plouffe> Blaqlight: yes 64amd
[23:27] <kalila> I think the latest ubuntu hardy updates broke my audio
[23:27] <SaschaRed> how well does the PS3 work as a home computer when you run ubuntu on it
[23:27] <kalila> anyone seen similar effect?
[23:28] <Blaqlight> SaschaRed: you might want to ask that in #ubuntu-ps3
[23:29] <derrich> after installing the alsa-oss wrapper, it seems like media apps no longer 'autodetect' alsa as the proper output device - i need to specifically instruct them to use ALSA now. anyone know why this might be?
[23:29] <harpreet> anyone help me with installing my internal modem on toshiba satellite?
[23:29] <bastid_raZor> Blaqlight; thanks for passing on the info you've learned. such an awesome bonus of an open source community
[23:30] <Drk_Guy> ^.^
[23:30] <Blaqlight> bastid_raZor: only the latest and greatest :D
[23:31] <dj_baggio> !pop3
[23:31] <trigpin> !MailServer
[23:31] <OmiKrOn> hi
[23:32] <harpreet> !modem
[23:32] <OmiKrOn> anyone knows what is the u/p for logging in on the vmware images at http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/ ?
[23:32] <chhahz> stupid that it's so hard to get a touchscreen working
[23:32] <Stavros> i would like to run my own SMTP server (with encryption and authentication), does anyone know of a tutorial to help me?
[23:33] <Stavros> i only want outgoing mail from that server, not incoming
[23:33] <R0b0t1> If I try to install a emerald theme by using the "Open with", it doesn't seem to work, but when double clicking on it, it tries to open it in archive manager. Any idea how I could install a theme?
[23:34] <cellofellow> Stavros: I wish I knew more, email servers are a PITA, but maybe you can find some how to's using Exim 4 or Postfix.
[23:34] <Blaqlight> R0b0t1: close the window, then reopen it, sometimes it won't show right away
[23:34] <derrich> ok ... i guess i just need to set up alsa output in the configs for mplayer, vlc, amarok and firefox :|
[23:34] <Daleus> bye everyone
[23:34] <Blaqlight> R0b0t1: if that doesn't work, don;t click and drag, use "Import
[23:34] <Daleus> derrich
[23:34] <Stavros> cellofellow: i'm looking, but it looks like i have to change the config by hand quite a bit :/
[23:34] <derrich> kind of a pain in the neck, but as long as it gets the job done i guess
[23:34] <Daleus> you can set alsa for everything in the ubuntu sound settings
[23:35] <Stavros> cellofellow: unfortunately gmail isn't good enough
[23:35] <Daleus> system - preferences - sound
[23:35] <derrich> aah - ok
[23:35] <Daleus> I hae everything on alsa, so they all work! wahey!
[23:35] <derrich> see, that was working previously as 'autodetect'
[23:35] <derrich> but once i installed the aoss wrapper (for WoW + wine + teamspeak), autodetect no longer worked
[23:35] <Daleus> Yeah, it 'used' to work :P
[23:35] <derrich> yeah, exactly
[23:35] <Daleus> Yeah, My exact problem derrich
[23:35] <cellofellow> Stavros: Yeah, I use Gmail for some stuff, and have Gmail as my SmartHost on my Exim installation. Annoyingly it rewrites the from: in my mail headers to only my email address.
[23:35] <Daleus> if I opened wow first
[23:35] <Daleus> no teamspeak sound
[23:36] <derrich> welp, i already went and configured mplayer/vlc/amarok to use alsa
[23:36] <derrich> i wish i had known to just switch 'autodetect' to 'alsa' as a system-wide setting
[23:36] <cellofellow> Stavros: but, with the configuration files, that's the only way to do it. As far as I know the only email server that uses GUI configs is Exchange and who wants to use that?
[23:36] <Stavros> cellofellow: i don't like how it adds the sender: address of the gmail account even when i use alternate addresses
[23:36] <derrich> that would've saved some time in man pages
[23:36] <Stavros> cellofellow: not me :p
[23:36] <derrich> Daleus: and you use aoss for both WoW and teamspeak, right?
[23:36] <Daleus> teamspeak still messes up on mine though, what I did was 'sudo apt-get install alsa-oss' then go to the teamspeak run file and add "aoss" before the teamspeak command
[23:37] <Stavros> cellofellow: the problem with those tutorials is that you never know if they're up to date, and may end up with a broken installation
[23:37] <Blaqlight> if only crimsun were around, he'd be able to help more with audio related problems...
[23:37] <derrich> yeah, aoss is a wrapper for oss-only apps to use alsa's software mixing
[23:37] <cellofellow> Stavros: if at first you don't succeed, try try again.
[23:37] <derrich> i know what the fix was, i just couldn't figure out why installing aoss broke the rest of the audio autodetection
[23:37] <Daleus> ah, yeah.
[23:37] <cellofellow> Daleus: use padsp on a PulseAudio system, not aoss.
[23:38] <eviscere> the Vista "Mojave Experiment" -- the outtakes apparently. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtXRnel2GT8
[23:38] <Daleus> I couldn't seem to get padsp to work with my mic
[23:38] <cellofellow> derrich: padsp is the wrapper for OSS apps using PulseAudio.
[23:38] <derrich> hmmm ... even after setting alsa from the sound prefs, amarok doesn't work if it's left to 'autodetect'
[23:38] <Daleus> it wouldn't pick it up
[23:38] <cellofellow> hmmm
[23:38] <Blaqlight> eviscere: please stay on topic, vista is certainly not on topic :P
[23:38] <cellofellow> I haven't gotten PulseAudio to work with a mic period.
[23:38] <eviscere> ya
[23:39] <kindofabuzz> i'm trying to ssh to my server.  worked fine last night.  I can ping the server and see the NFS share and use webmin, but cannot ssh to it.  i keep getting ssh: connect to host server1 port 22: Connection refused.  any ideas.  yes the port is open
[23:39] <derrich> oh well. i can manually tell all of the apps i use on a regular basis to use alsa, so i guess it's 'good enough'
[23:39] <derrich> kindofabuzz: are you sure sshd is still up and running on the machine?
[23:39] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz: sounds like the SSH daemon is down.
[23:39] <Dethray> Where would I find my current session's Xsession file?
[23:39] <Stavros> cellofellow: if i want to send mail through it, do i need to send the local-nets for relaying to anything, or just to localhost?
[23:39] <Dethray> my home doesn't have one
[23:39] <kindofabuzz> ahhh may be down correct, hmm
[23:40] <kindofabuzz> lemme see if i can start it with webmin
[23:40] <derrich> do you have physical access to the machine?
[23:40] <abadr> If I'm going to install, say, libxml from apt-get, how do I found out which exact version of libxml it would be installing?
[23:40] <cellofellow> Stavros: It'd be better to find a good smarthost that doesn't rewrite headers, your ISPs maybe, because home servers are often blocked as an anti-spam measure.
[23:40] <kindofabuzz> derrich, cellofellow yeah that was it. =)
[23:40] <Blaqlight> abadr: aptcache show libxml
[23:40] <abadr> Blaqlight: thanks!
[23:40] <cellofellow> Stavros: they're blocked by the receiving server.
[23:40] <Blaqlight> err apt-cache show libxml sorry
[23:41] <derrich> kindofabuzz: sweet. easy problems are great.
[23:41] <Stavros> cellofellow: i can rewrite my domain's SPF field for that, though
[23:41] <cellofellow> Stavros: SFS field? Now you've lost me.
[23:41] <Blaqlight> abadr: its apt-cache show libxml
[23:41] <Stavros> cellofellow: SPF, sender policy framework
[23:42] <Stavros> http://www.schlitt.net/spf/spf_classic/draft-schlitt-spf-classic-02.html
[23:42] <kindofabuzz> derrich: i'm just trying to figure out now how the ssh daemon didn't start, it's listed in boot
[23:42] <abadr> Blaqlight: got it, thanks
[23:42]  * Lucario pokes Graham
[23:42] <harpreet> anyone help me with installing my internal modem on toshiba satellite?
[23:42] <Lucario> *woof*
[23:43] <cellofellow> Stavros: looks like you just need to knuckle down and do it.
[23:43] <cypherdelic> Can somebody help me to get my DVBT-USB-Device "MSI Digivox mini III" to worki in Linux. I have an official MSI Linux driver. Please help.
[23:43]  * Graham wonders if Lucario thinks it's another /Graham/
[23:43] <derrich> kindofabuzz: can you ssh into it now?
[23:43]  * Lucario takes a drink of tea
[23:43]  * Lucario is no bot
[23:43] <kindofabuzz> derrich: yeah, i started it with webmin
[23:43]  * Graham kickc aimbotting choppers in CoD4
[23:43] <Graham> kicks*
[23:43]  * Lucario is no bot
[23:43]  * Lucario greets Kitar88
[23:44] <Graham> !bot
[23:44]  * Lucario is no bot
[23:44]  * Lucario sneezes
[23:44] <Blaqlight> !offtopic | Lucario
[23:44] <kindofabuzz> derrich: do you know how to auto forward X from ssh?  like when i'm in a session and just type xterm it auto forwards the X to the display i'm on
[23:44] <Graham> ubuntu bot using tinyurl links??
[23:44] <eviscere> what's the best site to get linux drivers for a wifi stick?
[23:45] <Graham> Can anyone help me install sound card and printer for ubuntu?
[23:45] <derrich> kindofabuzz: it's a two-part answer
[23:45] <derrich> you need to enable the forwarding on the server-side (the machine running sshd)
[23:45] <Blaqlight> !wifi > eviscere
[23:45] <derrich> it's listed in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[23:45] <kindofabuzz> derrich: do you know both? =)
[23:45] <eviscere> ubottu: thanks mate!
[23:45] <derrich> the line 'X11Forwarding' should already be set to yes
[23:45] <derrich> kindofabuzz: yep, i do it at work a lot :)
[23:46] <kindofabuzz> derrich: yeah it is
[23:46] <cellofellow> !botsnack
[23:46] <eviscere> excellent bot!
[23:46] <Graham> ubottu: the ladies, if you know what I mean ;)
[23:46] <Graham> damn it!
[23:46] <derrich> kindofabuzz: confirm that X11Forwarding is set to 'yes' in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[23:46] <kindofabuzz> derrich: i asume it's got to do with DISPLAY or something
[23:47] <Blaqlight> !language
[23:47] <kindofabuzz> X11Forwarding yes
[23:47] <derrich> ok, good.
[23:47] <Leo> Hola
[23:47] <eviscere> thx blaqlight! :-)
[23:47] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz: the default xserver address for SSH forwarding is :10.0
[23:47] <Blaqlight> eviscere: :D
[23:47] <derrich> ok - do you want X11 forwarding to be displayed on a Windows machine or another *nix machine?
[23:47] <Leo> hello
[23:47] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz: localhost:10.0 rather
[23:48] <kindofabuzz> derrich: no 'dows on this network
[23:48] <Blaqlight> !es | Leo
[23:48] <cellofellow> don't bother with SSH forwarding in a LAN
[23:48] <ncls> can someone tell me how to get an external screen to work (macbook)?
[23:48] <kindofabuzz> cellofellow: why not?
[23:48] <Leo> someone know how to deactivate the help poupups?
[23:49] <derrich> kindofabuzz: on the machine you want the display to show up on, use "ssh -X -l <username> <address of host that runs sshd>"
[23:49] <joshua24> ncls: environment? gnome i suspect
[23:49] <Leo> yes
[23:49] <ncls> yeah, gnome - it doesnt work as it should
[23:49] <kindofabuzz> derrich: yeah i knew that, just wondering if there is a config setting to auto do once already in a ssh session
[23:49] <joshua24> problem, ncls
[23:49] <joshua24> ?
[23:49] <derrich> oh. heh
[23:50] <derrich> a config setting to automatically forward X? so you don't have to use 'ssh -X' every time?
[23:50] <joshua24> ncls: googling may help... i cant help @ the moment i have to eat dinner
[23:50] <Blaqlight> I would think you could setup an alias for that...
[23:50] <kindofabuzz> derrich: like i'm already in ssh server1, let's say i want xterm all of the sudden from server1, instead of loffing out and running -X -I i just type xterm and there it pops up
[23:51] <derrich> oh
[23:51] <derrich> i don't know if you can do that if you've already started the ssh session without X forwarding
[23:51] <albech> anyone else experience that compiz take up more and more memory and at the end crash?
[23:51] <kindofabuzz> i think it has to do with what cellofellow said, like set the $DISPLAY in a config
[23:51] <derrich> but like Blaqlight said, you can just create an alias to save yourself typing 'ssh -X' every time
[23:52] <kindofabuzz> derrich: so yeah i guess i can just start it with the -X -I
[23:52] <kindofabuzz> yeah
[23:52] <Leo> someone know how to get rid of the help poupups?
[23:52] <kindofabuzz> what was the -I?
[23:52] <derrich> yeah, if you set $DISPLAY properly you may be able to do it
[23:52] <derrich> but me, i'd just log out and log in again with -X
[23:52] <derrich> i'm lazy like that
[23:53] <mfabiano> hello... i'm trying to install geforce fx 5200 in ubuntu 8.04, but anything work. i've already try to install with envyng the last driver and the 96.xxx series. What i must do to make this thing work?
[23:53] <kindofabuzz> =) i'll just make an alias
[23:53] <demetris> Good Morning everyone
[23:53] <demetris> recovery fixes errors on ubuntu ?
[23:54] <Graham> any help with evolution? > server configuration > server: "what goes here?"
[23:54] <Leo> hello!. someone know how to get rid of the help poupups please? I suppose is easy to resolve, but I didnt find the option
[23:54] <derrich> kindofabuzz: echo "alias s='ssh -X -l <your username> <ip address>'" >> .bashrc
[23:54] <kindofabuzz> yeah
[23:54] <derrich> i like one-character aliases
[23:54] <derrich> because i'm lazy
[23:55] <kindofabuzz> i have a seperate .bash_aliases, i have alot
[23:55] <Johnny> whats the syntax to mount a hard drive real quick?
[23:55] <demetris> what to perfom to check if my ubuntu are ok ? without any errors/problems.
[23:55] <derrich> Johnny: mount /mountpoint , as long as /mountpoint is defined in /etc/fstab
[23:55] <Johnny> so derrich
[23:55] <Johnny> a  hard drive
[23:56] <yao_ziyuan> what is the general strategy to deal with broken packages? remove them?
[23:56] <Johnny> mount /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ....?
[23:56] <Onerice> Hi, having troubles with microphone volume. Trying to speak over teamspeak, but my microphone is too low. What to do? It's at max at recording tab in Volume Control
[23:56] <Onerice> Ubuntu Hardy Heron
[23:56] <derrich> if /dev/hdb1 is the right device name, and the /media/hdb1 directory exists
[23:56] <serkan`c> yao_ziyuan: first try to fix them
[23:56] <derrich> then yes, that would do it
[23:56] <bastid_raZor> Johnny; create /media/hdb1 then yes
[23:56] <Johnny> yea i know
[23:56] <Johnny> whats the file type
[23:56] <kindofabuzz> yao_ziyuan: sudo apt-get install -f
[23:56] <yao_ziyuan> serkan`c: how?
[23:56] <demetris> what to perfom to check if my ubuntu are ok ? without any errors/problems.
[23:56] <Blaqlight> derrich: nothing wrong with the ultimate in efficiency... one letter aliases
[23:56] <serkan`c> already told yao_ziyuan :D
[23:57] <derrich> i have 'ls' aliased to 'l'
[23:57] <derrich> i rule
[23:57] <yao_ziyuan> kindofabuzz: what if there are still unresolved errors after install -f?
[23:57] <serkan`c> demetris: if it is ok, then it is ok :D
[23:57] <kindofabuzz> yao_ziyuan: dunno =|
[23:57] <serkan`c> yao_ziyuan: hardy heron?
[23:57] <krazy-h_> Someone can help me? I have a problem with nmap, i can't have access to windows "c$" drive
[23:57] <grkblood> sudo apt-get remove packagename
[23:57] <kindofabuzz> derrich: now that is lazy lol
[23:57] <demetris> serkan`c, it doesn't have anything fixing errors?
[23:57] <demetris> :P
[23:57] <Leo> someone know how to get rid of the help poupups please?
[23:57] <Blaqlight> yao_ziyuan: use synaptic then its easier :D
[23:57] <derrich> Johnny: if it's asking you for the file type, then either hdb1 isn't a valid partition w/ a filesystem on it, or you don't have support for that filesystem installed
[23:57] <serkan`c> demetris: what do you want to do?
[23:57] <Blaqlight> ask | Leo
[23:57] <Blaqlight> !ask | Leo
[23:58] <yao_ziyuan> serkan`c: yes. i just tried a new software source (http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu) and it generated many broken packages.
[23:58] <krazy-h_> Please
[23:58] <derrich> Johnny: run 'fdisk -l' and make sure hdb1 is the right device
[23:58] <demetris> serkan'c, i just wanna be sure that my ubuntu are fine ;D
[23:58] <yao_ziyuan> right!
[23:58] <serkan`c> yao_ziyuan: so this is the problem
[23:58] <yao_ziyuan> synaptic is more friendly
[23:58] <theclaw> is there a way to start those 'kde daemons' when starting gnome? (so that starting a kde application doesn't take that long)
[23:58] <serkan`c> if there is some dependency problems, packagers must fix it
[23:59] <serkan`c> demetris: if there isnt any problem we can think that your ubuntu is fine ;)
[23:59] <Leo> so, anyone knows the answer?
[23:59] <kindofabuzz> derrich: can i not make an aliases 2 words?
[23:59] <Blaqlight> Leo: if we did we'd answer.
[23:59] <krazy-h_> Somebody can help me ?
[23:59] <demetris> serkan'c, okay :P