[00:02] <steven_> yep i'm here
[00:02] <steven_> i followed
[00:02] <steven_> i am in a library
[00:02] <steven_> and just booted their terminals into a xubuntu 8 session!
[00:02] <steven_> changed some stuff
[00:02] <steven_> rebooted
[00:02] <steven_> and it saved it
[00:02] <steven_> so yeah it works
[00:06] <steven_> akaaka: everything going okay?
[00:07] <PsynoKhi0> trpf: do you have any burnable CD handy?
[00:08] <trpf> no, but I rather not get into partitioning anything atm .. I just removed that grub addition, going to see if that caused the fs error
[00:10] <akaaka> yeah
[00:10] <akaaka> thx
[00:16] <steven_> it worked?
[00:16] <steven_> cool man have fun
[01:27] <tanner_> Hey need some help I screwed up (newb)
[01:28] <tanner_> I wanted to switch from another distro to Xubuntu since a friend has it and its nice and I was an idiot and deleted my current Linux partitions, now I'm locked out of my laptop
[01:28] <tanner_> Thanks to Grub, if I install Xubuntu via LiveCD will it install Grub and fix that for me?
[01:31] <wols> yes it will
[01:33] <tanner_> Alright thanks you are my hero lol
[03:14] <Name141> Does Xubuntu also have "wubi" ?
[03:22] <zoredache> Name141: sure
[03:25] <Name141> So you can install with windows also ?
[03:33] <ffoegboy> does anyone know gimp will run under xfce?
[03:35] <crimsun> sure it will
[03:36] <ffoegboy> crimsun, thanks,im new to linux and am just about to try to install xbuntu on my HP 2133
[04:01] <kb9tua> HELP!
[04:01] <DaveKong> If I have a 64 bit processor should I be running 64-bit ubuntu(all the time)? If not, can have both versions in my GRUB?
[04:01] <DaveKong> what is up kb9tua?
[04:02] <cody-somerville> DaveKong, I'd run 32bit personally
[04:02] <cody-somerville> Flash doesn't work for example on 64bit
[04:03] <kb9tua> running xubuntu 7.10 almost always running high cpu usage. 2gb ram, 2.66GHz celeron. Why?
[04:03] <DaveKong> cody-somerville can I have both kernels in my grub and choose 64 for when I want to do some 64-bit gaming?
[04:03] <kb9tua> and a lot of processes that I don't know what they are for
[04:03] <cody-somerville> DaveKong, You'd have to install Xubuntu twice
[04:04] <cody-somerville> kb9tua, output ps ux | cat
[04:04] <cody-somerville> to pastebin, please
[04:04] <DaveKong> kb9tua you could probably run ubuntu fine on that system and it might make life easier for you... if you want to after you can install xubuntu over ubuntu or fluxbox for more performance
[04:04] <kb9tua> standby
[04:05] <DaveKong> cody-somerville that works for me
[04:06] <DaveKong> cody-somerville just put in an Xubuntu liveCD and boot and I can do it like that?
[04:06] <kb9tua> I have the output. how do i put it in the pastebin. (I'm new to irc
[04:07] <cody-somerville> DaveKong, yes but leave room for creating a second separate partition for your second install
[04:07] <eca> i used services and accidentally stopped xdm, i rebooted in safe mode and started /etc/init.d/xdm and it worked- but when i rebooted again it just shows a black screen
[04:07] <DaveKong> cody-somerville ok thanks a lot
[04:08] <eca> i dont have sysv-rc-conf installed and internet isnt working on that comp
[04:09] <eca> what file does services write to?
[04:13] <kb9tua> I'm new to irc. How do I put something in the pastebin?
[04:14] <[zEr0-x]> enter to pastebin.ca, paste what you want to show, public, and then paste in here the link they give you. Did you get it?
[04:14] <j1mc> kb9tua: go to http://www.pastebin.ca, paste it in, and submit it.  it will give you a link
[04:14] <j1mc> you can paste the link in IRC, and people can view your pastebin
[04:14] <[zEr0-x]> :)
[04:14] <kb9tua> ok. doing that now.
[04:17] <kb9tua> Here is the link. http://www.pastebin.ca/1087982
[04:18] <kb9tua> :)
[04:27] <kb9tua> Any ideas, yet?
[04:32] <eca> anybody know what file services-admin program writes to, a rc file i suppose?
[04:32] <kb9tua> BTW, I use four swap partitions totalling 1.32 GB w/0 B usage. I've read that using multiple swap partitions are better than 1 big one.
[04:40] <kb9tua> Well, I've to to go to bed. If you have any ideas, e-mail them to me at "thebobshow01 at yahoo.com"
[05:22] <eca> copied S99xdm from rc3.d to rc2.d folder bcs i noticed it was missing, and it solved my problem
[05:23]  * eca pats himself on his back
[07:31] <godlygeek> is there an xfce- or xubuntu-specific way to disable the system bell?
[07:32] <godlygeek> once upon a time i remember jumping through hoops trying to globally disable it, but now i can't seem to find a way to turn it back on, heh...
[07:33] <TheSheep> try using xset -b
[07:33] <TheSheep> xset b
[07:33] <TheSheep> sorry
[07:34] <ffoegboy> How would I add the xforcevesa kernel parameter to install xbuntu onto a HP mini 2133 ?notebook
[07:34] <TheSheep> !boot | ffoegboy
[07:34] <TheSheep> ffoegboy: see the first link
[07:35] <ffoegboy> thanks guys
[07:35] <TheSheep> godlygeek: for example, I use: xset b 80 1200 5
[07:36] <TheSheep> godlygeek: makes the sound much more bearable
[07:36] <godlygeek> TheSheep: no, that seems to be good...
[07:36] <godlygeek> xset q shows "bell percent:  50    bell pitch:  400    bell duration:  100"
[07:36] <TheSheep> godlygeek: you need 3 numbers after it, set duration to 0 to disable it
[07:37] <godlygeek> sure, and querying the current value shows that it isn't disabled.
[07:37] <godlygeek> also double-checked that the pcspkr module is loaded with lsmod...
[07:38] <ffoegboy> TheSheep, So just to clarify, I would simply put  xforcevesa at the end of the boot line followed by |?
[07:38] <TheSheep> ffoegboy: yes, if that really is a kernel parameter, but I'm not sure it is, I've never seen it
[07:39] <TheSheep> why followed by | ?
[07:39] <TheSheep> just put it alone, without any |, separated with spaces
[07:39] <ffoegboy> TheSheep, Its on this page near the bottom - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=749693
[07:39] <generalsnus> is there a gui tool, that allows me to set up authentication to a ldap server?
[09:35] <adamw9678> is any1 out there using fluxbox?
[10:04] <favro> adamw9678: I use it :)
[10:06] <adamw9678> Favro: I have just install it but don't really know my way around it yet
[10:09] <favro> adamw9678: there are text files in your home folder in the hidden dir .fluxbox - lots of help for config on the net - I recommend installing menus
[10:09] <favro> adamw9678: and you right click the desktop for a menu
[10:14] <adamw9678> I'v been try to put icon onto the desktop but can't seem to do it. and I can't find the home folder :(
[10:16] <favro> adamw9678: for the icons - http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php/Idesk
[10:16] <adamw9678> I install idesk but don't know what do now
[10:17] <favro> adamw9678: you might need to ask in #fluxbox
[10:17] <adamw9678> sorry but Im a newish linux user
[10:18] <adamw9678> I try there but they just took the piss
[10:18] <favro> adamw9678: that's ok - type /j #fluxbox in your chat
[10:18] <favro> ohh
[10:18] <favro> they think you should read the wiki?
[10:18] <favro> adamw9678: ^
[10:19] <adamw9678> I'll have a look. Thanks
[10:19] <favro> np
[10:27] <favro> adamw9678: http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php/Idesk
[10:55] <compubomb> how do you up the font size in xubuntu ?
[10:56] <compubomb> anyone ?
[10:57] <compubomb> i'm running xubuntu on a 1920x1080 so i can play some videos, but the fonts are microscopic.
[10:58] <th0r> compubomb, are you talking about the fonts inside the videos?
[10:58] <compubomb> no.
[10:58] <compubomb> i'm talking about the menus
[10:58] <compubomb> their fonts are extremely small.
[10:58] <th0r> compubomb, Settings - Settings manager - User Interface
[10:59] <compubomb> try
[10:59] <compubomb> bleh
[10:59] <compubomb> ty
[11:01] <compubomb> th0r: you hit the sugar spot :p
[11:01] <compubomb> ty
[11:01] <th0r> compubomb, np
[11:10] <compubomb> th0r: when you run xubuntu on an old 1100mhz on a 48" sharp lcd tv, microscopic fonts can make it a bit hard to read :p
[11:10] <compubomb> anyways, they are fixed now.
[11:10] <compubomb> ubuntu was really slow and unstable so..
[11:10] <compubomb> i can't use it.
[11:11] <th0r> compubomb, if that's a request for hints on improving stability and performance you will have to reword it
[11:11] <compubomb> th0r: how do i increase the font size in the login manager ?
[11:11] <compubomb> th0r: ubuntu is unstable on this system because this system is unstable :p
[11:32] <generalsnus> OK,i am in a desperate need of setting up a LDAP/file server for the following purpose: authentication and central storage of users /home folders. I have tried a lot of tutorials..but i havent had any success yet. ive tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmbLdapInstaller aswell. In my dream scenario, i would want to use MS AD for auth and sharing of /home folders
[11:51] <generalsnus> FFS, is there a good howto for: using AD authenticating AND have users /home mounted from a server?? i really need this up and running ASAP :/
[11:54] <cody-somerville> generalsnus, I think you're looking for likewise
[11:55] <generalsnus> well, how do i mount /homes with likewise?
[11:58] <cody-somerville> I imagine you could modify the login script to do it
[12:00] <generalsnus> and how?
[12:02] <cody-somerville> generalsnus, it sounds like you should be speaking with your local IT department.
[12:42] <compubomb> i have a question, how do i make my pointer larger ?
[12:42] <compubomb> in ubuntu, it's pretty easy, you just goto the gtk theme manager and it will let you change your pointer.
[12:42] <compubomb> but in xubuntu, i can't figure it out.
[12:49] <compubomb> anyone ?
[13:14] <ablomen> compubomb, settings-manager -> mouse -> Cursor tab -> Cursor size
[13:17] <Chaser_> ALT F8 minimize current window
[13:53] <generalsnus> does anyone use windows services for unix here? i was gonna try to make a nfs export.. but im unsure how i should authenticate to windows.. should i use Likewise-open?
[14:35] <shadebug> not sure if anybody's about but I'm attempting to get a speedtouch 121g usb dongle working on a new xubuntu installation. I have ndiswrapper 1.52 installed and ndiswrapper -l says that the dongle is present and it seems to match up with what I see in lsusb and /etc/ndiswrapper looks like it has the requisite drivers
[14:35] <shadebug> any ideas?
[14:35] <shadebug> unfortunately, the light does not turn on and network configuration, let alone ifconfig and iwconfig are having no luck finding it
[14:54] <jb_in_nyc> hi gang
[14:54] <jb_in_nyc> I'd like to install Xubuntu on an old PowerPC (mac) laptop
[14:55] <jb_in_nyc> i made a boot CD but haven't installed Xubuntu yet, I'm still running in live mode
[14:55] <jb_in_nyc> the Wifi isn't working and I'm scared to move over until I know how to get it to work
[14:55] <jb_in_nyc> any ideas?
[15:07] <jb_in_nyc> anybody here?
[15:11] <bassboi> what sort of wireless you have
[15:11] <jb_in_nyc> its the apple wifi card that goes in a pismo
[15:11] <jb_in_nyc> pretty standard
[15:12] <jb_in_nyc> but I don't know how to tell linux to look for it
[15:12] <bassboi> terminal
[15:12] <bassboi> lspci
[15:12] <bassboi> bassboi@Mercury:~$ lspci
[15:12] <bassboi> like that
[15:13] <jb_in_nyc> k, lemme try
[15:13] <bassboi> should tell you a bunch of hw
[15:15] <bassboi> ?
[15:18] <shadebug> somebody in #ndiswrapper asked me to pastebin my logs for my ndiswrapper problems so I thought somebody here might know what they're looking for too http://rafb.net/p/2IuvXa11.html
[15:19] <jb_in_nyc> machine is hanging
[15:19] <jb_in_nyc> is there a force-restart? ctl-alt-del or something?
[15:20] <shadebug> ctrl alt f2 will take you to a terminal, ctrl alt f7 brings you back to the gui
[15:20] <shadebug> from the terminal you can type sudo halt
[15:20] <shadebug> or sudo reboot
[15:20] <TheSheep> or press alt+ctrl+del while in terminal
[15:21] <th0r> jb_in_nyc, if you can get to the cli with Alt-F2 you are better off killing the hung process
[15:21] <jb_in_nyc> I had to just power down
[15:22] <jb_in_nyc> it wasn't responding to anythnig
[15:33] <jb_in_nyc> mmmkay; I ran lspci
[15:34] <jb_in_nyc> its got a bunch of stuff, but no wifi
[15:34] <jb_in_nyc> there's an Ethernet controler, but i think that's teh wired one
[15:40] <bassboi> hrm
[15:41] <bassboi> hey why do i get kde updates when i uninstalled the kde desktop :|
[15:44] <th0r> bassboi, you probably still have some kde remnants in the system
[15:44] <bassboi> :| how can i remove that crap
[15:46] <th0r> bassboi, careful, they jumped all over me the other day for using that word <smile>. If you know what got updated you can uninstall those pieces one at a time
[15:47] <bassboi> ah ok
[15:48] <th0r> bassboi, I ran into that same problem with my last install of ubuntu, so this time I went with xubuntu and have avoided the temptation to install either gnome or kde
[15:48] <bassboi> i see i see
[15:50] <bassboi> i thought gnome was a part of xubuntu
[15:50] <bassboi> or am i confused
[15:50] <bassboi> xfce is independent of gnome..
[15:50] <bassboi> i don't know :(
[15:51] <gaurdro> GDM is installed by default but nothing else is from gnome.
[15:51] <bassboi> i see i see ty
[15:51] <gaurdro> GDM is installed because Xfce doesn't have it's own desktop manager.  you can switch it to use kdm or xdm if you really want to though
[15:52] <bassboi> alright alright
[15:53] <bassboi> i'd take a change of removing kde stuff
[15:54] <bassboi> chance, even... but i don't know if anything depends on it
[15:54] <bassboi> or if it'll screw something up
[15:54] <th0r> wdm is a better choice if you want to go to a lightweight login manager
[15:55] <th0r> bassboi, if you have removed all the kde apps the libs won't hurt anything...they will just take up disk space. but if you are trying to use kde apps each time you call one it will load a ton of libs into memory
[15:56] <th0r> bassboi, and I believe you can clean up all the unneeded libs with 'sudo apt-get autoremove'
[15:56] <bassboi> ty for the info
[15:56] <blaked> hello
[15:56] <bassboi> i've tried that..
[15:56] <bassboi> sudo apt-get autoremove... and sudo apt-get autoremove kde
[15:56] <gaurdro> bassboi, just LOOK at what it's removing,  i mean uninstalling apt is possible and no fun.
[18:20] <jb_in_nyc> hi gang
[18:20] <jb_in_nyc> I'm back
[18:21] <jb_in_nyc> I have a xubuntu live CD running on a Pismo Mac laptop.  wireless doesn't see to be working and I'm not sure where to start
[18:21] <jb_in_nyc> i tried lspci and got a list of hardware; the Airport card wasn't on it
[18:23] <jb_in_nyc> the Network Admin panel only shows the (wired) Ethernet and the modem
[18:23] <jb_in_nyc> is there an "add hardware" somewhere?
[18:23] <zoredache> not really, no
[18:23] <jb_in_nyc> mmm
[18:24] <jb_in_nyc> so how does one tell the OS that there's new hardware
[18:24] <jb_in_nyc> (not that its new...)
[18:24] <jb_in_nyc> do I need to install a driver?
[18:25] <zoredache> in the linux world installing a driver frequently means compiling or patching the kernel...
[18:25] <zoredache> if your hardware isn't supported already that could mean that a driver doesn't exist for your hardware
[18:26] <zoredache> is the wireless adapter built in?
[18:26] <jb_in_nyc> reallly?  phooey! I've seen a bunch of mentions of Xubuntu on a Pismo
[18:26] <jb_in_nyc> and no mentions of this problem
[18:26] <jb_in_nyc> yeah, the card is built-in
[18:29] <zoredache> hrm... that is kinda odd.  The page I found on google seemed to indicate that a stock pismo didn't come with wireless
[18:29] <jb_in_nyc> I might've had to add the card
[18:29] <jb_in_nyc> but it was a pretty common config
[18:29] <jb_in_nyc> IIRC, it was advertised as "Airport-ready"
[18:30] <zoredache> was the wireless adapter working in osx?
[18:30] <jb_in_nyc> yep.
[18:34] <zoredache> jb_in_nyc: you might look here... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[18:34] <zoredache> there is a section on wireless that might apply
[18:34] <jb_in_nyc> thanks zoredache!
[18:35] <jb_in_nyc> what version of *untu is 6?  Feisty?
[18:35] <jb_in_nyc> if it says something like this:
[18:35] <jb_in_nyc> In Feisty the Airport Extreme support is built in, but you must fetch the firmware. Simply open a terminal and type:
[18:35] <jb_in_nyc> sudo aptitude install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[18:35] <jb_in_nyc> and reboot. Your Airport Extreme will now work.
[18:35] <jb_in_nyc> will that apply to a live CD?
[18:36] <gaurdro> it will, but you'll have to do it everytime you load that liveCD
[18:36] <jb_in_nyc> but it says "reboot"
[18:36] <zoredache> it may work without rebooting, but it might require manually restarting something...  (i dunno what)
[18:37] <gaurdro> in my experience the liveCD doesn't need to be rebooted for most things like that.
[18:39] <jb_in_nyc> uh....
[18:39] <jb_in_nyc> I'd want to be plugged into Ethernet when I try that, right?
[18:40] <zoredache> apt-get probably wouldn't be able to get the files if you didn't have internet access
[18:40] <zoredache> are you planning on eventually installing to the hard drive?
[18:41] <jb_in_nyc> the whole point is to test on the live CD
[18:41] <jb_in_nyc> so I can make a deciscion
[19:03] <stevenw> hey quick help needed. i lost the net manager icon on my panel.
[19:04] <cody-somerville> nm-applet
[19:04] <stevenw> thx!
[19:04] <stevenw> always quick with the help
[19:05] <stevenw> that's why he's in charge
[19:05] <stevenw> what's the dif between xub 8.04 and 8.04.1?
[19:06] <stevenw> anything major?
[19:06] <cody-somerville> stevenw, It has just a reroll
[19:06] <cody-somerville> ie. you won't have to download a ton of updates post-install
[19:06] <stevenw> ahh
[19:06] <cody-somerville> (or not as many <g>)
[19:06] <stevenw> so just some added updates
[19:06] <stevenw> nothing major?
[19:07] <stevenw> i heard a rumor that suspend and hibernate are a big thing they're working on for ub 8.10
[19:07] <zoredache> some of the updates are pretty important.  but you should already have them
[19:07] <stevenw> oh i have the updates
[19:07] <stevenw> anyone else having probs updating today? i can't get a lot of em and i says they're unverified or something
[19:10] <cody-somerville> I'm good
[19:10] <stevenw> hmm maybe it's my connection
[19:11] <stevenw> lemme check
[19:11] <stevenw> "Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead."
[19:11] <stevenw> i got a lot of failed to fetch
[19:12] <stevenw> connect 101 network is unreachable?
[19:12] <stevenw> i'm on a public wifi maybe it cuts out?
[19:13] <zoredache> perhaps... there could also some be some kind of web filtering... firewall or something else
[19:14] <zoredache> even though almost everything is gpg signed, I still don't think I would trust applying updates downloaded on public wifi
[19:14] <stevenw> hmm
[19:14] <stevenw> no? why not?
[19:14] <stevenw> there's a heavy firewall it's a public library
[19:15] <zoredache> why?  because I think maybe at some point in time an evil person might be able to inject badness into an update...  It should not be possible, but I am really paranoid
[19:15] <stevenw> yeah i understand
[19:15] <stevenw> sneaking in malicious packets in gcalctools
[19:16] <stevenw> they'll never know!
[19:16] <stevenw> hide em in some out of the way update
[19:16] <stevenw> LOL
[19:16] <stevenw> gaurdo thanks for the help mounting the .iso yesterday
[19:16] <stevenw> it worked perfectly
[19:50] <slow-motion> hi
[21:40] <khajex> if i got a xubuntu desktop installatin, can i convert it after install to server edition?
[21:41] <khajex> if i got a xubuntu desktop installatin, can i convert it after install to server edition?
[21:42] <TheSheep> just remove xubuntu-desktop packages and then run auto-remove to remove all its dependencies
[21:42] <TheSheep> and please don't repeat yourself that often
[21:43] <TheSheep> make sure you use apt-get or synpatic for that, and not aptitude
[22:23] <slow-motion> n8
[22:26] <tanner_> How do I remove Xubuntu and Grub so that Windows can boot normally?
[22:33] <tanner_> Seriously need help
[22:37] <ffoegboy> has anyone installed xbuntu on a HP 2133 mini laptop?
[22:47] <bassboi> ffoegboy: seems some of them already have linux as the OS
[22:47] <bassboi> http://h40059.www4.hp.com/hp2133/
[22:48] <ffoegboy> bassboi, Yea, suse, but im trying to install xbuntu and am having trouble, but i just realised i am using the alternate iso, i am now downloading the normal i386 iso and will try that
[22:49] <bassboi> ffoegboy, afaik, either CD should work
[22:49] <bassboi> alternate install is text based
[22:49] <ffoegboy> bassboi, It gives the error sayingf cant find a kernel to suit]
[22:51] <bassboi> i see
[22:52] <bassboi> i guess give the other one a try. i know i had issues trying to boot 8.04 xubuntu on this one PC i built... but 7.10 boots fine
[22:52] <bassboi> any advice on building a cantenna
[22:57] <ffoegboy> bassboi, if this dosnt work i will try 7.10, thanks
[22:59] <ffoegboy> bassboi, I just lookied on the xbuntu site, they only have version 8 or 6?
[23:13] <bassboi> i'm sorry
[23:13] <bassboi> it was mythbuntu 7.10
[23:36] <ffoegboy> bassboi, cool, i will try version 6 if this dosnt woth this time :-)