| JontheEchidna | Hmm, I think kubuntu-default-settings is still using hardy cdbs | 00:06 |
|---|---|---|
| JontheEchidna | oh, it doesnt' use cdbs | 00:07 |
| JontheEchidna | no matter | 00:07 |
| JontheEchidna | s/matter/problem | 00:07 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, debian/rules says it does... | 00:07 |
| JontheEchidna | but I don't see a cdbs folder in debain??? | 00:08 |
| JontheEchidna | *debian | 00:08 |
| * JontheEchidna is pushing his kubuntu-default-settings changes if anybody is interested | 00:20 | |
| * JontheEchidna thinks uploading will take a while since he moved around megabytes worth of files | 00:24 | |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: the background looks a bit washed out | 00:31 |
| JontheEchidna | imo | 00:32 |
| JontheEchidna | otherwise it looks smashing | 00:33 |
| JontheEchidna | maybe I just need to get used to it like you said :P | 00:34 |
| JontheEchidna | apparently I did the stuff in my bashrc wrong | 00:38 |
| emunkki | which bg? | 00:39 |
| JontheEchidna | emunkki: http://apachelog.blogspot.com/2008/07/breath-of-fresh-air-for-konsole.html | 00:40 |
| emunkki | a-ha | 00:40 |
| vorian | yoyoyo | 00:42 |
| JontheEchidna | yay, that's better | 00:42 |
| ScottK | I think at some point we should declare 4.1 for Hardy done and move if from the PPA to hardy-backports. How close are we to that? | 01:08 |
| JontheEchidna | we should probably get translations working before that | 01:09 |
| ScottK | I think that got solved in Intrepid today. | 01:09 |
| ScottK | What else is needing done? | 01:09 |
| vorian | I thinks it's done | 01:12 |
| * vorian checks | 01:12 | |
| Nightrose | ScottK: apps don't quit properly | 01:12 |
| Nightrose | that should be fixed before | 01:12 |
| vorian | eek | 01:12 |
| Nightrose | konqueror, kate, kopete at least | 01:12 |
| Nightrose | others probably as well | 01:12 |
| ScottK | Is that a QT issue? | 01:13 |
| Nightrose | no idea | 01:13 |
| Nightrose | worked in RC 1 | 01:13 |
| ScottK | If it's a kdelibs problem, updating a single package once we have a solution is not an issue. | 01:14 |
| Nightrose | but right now i have to kill kate every time i closed it and want to open a new one | 01:14 |
| Nightrose | that is a PITA :( | 01:14 |
| ScottK | I can imagine. | 01:14 |
| Nightrose | there is a bug report on launchpad about it | 01:15 |
| Nightrose | maybe there is more info there | 01:15 |
| Nightrose | sec | 01:15 |
| ScottK | Same thing in Debian, BTW (time is -0400): [07:59] <wdgt> hey, seems like there's a serious issue in 4.1 : when closing apps, their process continue to run. I just tested it with kopete and kate. Anyone already noticed it ? | 01:15 |
| Nightrose | *nod* | 01:15 |
| Nightrose | right | 01:15 |
| Nightrose | that is it | 01:16 |
| Nightrose | tell him konqueror as well ;-) | 01:16 |
| ScottK | That was about 12 hours ago, so I doubt he's still around. | 01:16 |
| ScottK | Actually he is. | 01:16 |
| Nightrose | ScottK: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/253659 | 01:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 253659 in kdebase-workspace "Kate hangs when I close it" [Medium,Confirmed] | 01:17 |
| * ScottK looks. | 01:17 | |
| Nightrose | ScottK: see apachelogger's comment on http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167522 for a list of affected apps | 01:17 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 167522 in general "Konqueror process doesn't stop after close (keeps running iddle)" [Normal,Reopened] | 01:17 |
| ScottK | OK. | 01:18 |
| Nightrose | anyway | 01:19 |
| Nightrose | I am tired | 01:19 |
| Nightrose | good night :) | 01:19 |
| * seele waves | 01:19 | |
| Jucato | nini Nightrose | 01:19 |
| ScottK | Good night. | 01:20 |
| vorian | JontheEchidna: are you using your flicker plasmoid right now? | 03:07 |
| JontheEchidna | not at the mometn | 03:08 |
| JontheEchidna | *moment | 03:08 |
| vorian | I hope the current photo is not default | 03:08 |
| JontheEchidna | it randomly selects photos marked as "interesting" off of flickr | 03:08 |
| JontheEchidna | re-updates every two minutes | 03:08 |
| vorian | eek! | 03:09 |
| vorian | a headless dude | 03:09 |
| vorian | this is one weird thing you packaged | 03:09 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 03:09 |
| JontheEchidna | nightrose made me :P | 03:09 |
| * JontheEchidna is joking | 03:09 | |
| vorian | only one snag, line 4 in your copyright | 03:09 |
| seele | hehe | 03:09 |
| vorian | :) | 03:09 |
| * JontheEchidna checks | 03:10 | |
| JontheEchidna | oh, right | 03:10 |
| vorian | :) | 03:10 |
| vorian | other than that, looks perfect | 03:11 |
| JontheEchidna | coolness | 03:11 |
| vorian | right-o, good work ! | 03:12 |
| * JontheEchidna reupps to revu | 03:14 | |
| JontheEchidna | and good night | 03:14 |
| vorian | nn | 03:14 |
| Jucato | no folder view on the desktop/dashboard by default in intrepid, bug or by design ? | 03:14 |
| Jucato | night night JontheEchidna | 03:15 |
| * Jucato thinks of BreezytheBadger now :) | 03:15 | |
| JontheEchidna | Jucato: bug | 03:15 |
| JontheEchidna | it worked with stock alpha 3 though | 03:15 |
| * JontheEchidna is away for reals now | 03:15 | |
| Jucato | heh ok. I kept on deleting ~/.kde just to make sure | 03:15 |
| Jucato | thanks | 03:15 |
| Jucato | wow I'm impressed... suspend and hibernate work on Intrepid :) | 03:32 |
| jdong | Jucato: lol I've had suspend and hibernate surprise me enough recently that I'm no longer surprised | 03:39 |
| jdong | hardy, out of the box, Via AMD64 box with nvidia card, compiz running | 03:39 |
| Jucato | hahah touché | 03:39 |
| techno_freak | hi, python-kde4 package conflicts with python-kde4-devel (in kubuntu-members-kde4 PPA) when trying to overwrite /usr/bin/pykdepuic4 | 06:18 |
| techno_freak | bug #253858 | 06:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 253858 in python-kde4 "python-kde4 conflicts with python-kde4-dev while dealing with pykdeuic4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/253858 | 06:19 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: the red is a bit too red... | 09:25 |
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| hunger | Any idea why signing mail with gpg fails with kmail in intrepid? Is that due to the gpg update we had recently? | 10:11 |
| Jucato | hunger: upstream problem afaik | 10:12 |
| Jucato | hunger: hold on, someone blogged about it in planetkde | 10:12 |
| Jucato | hunger: http://randomguy3.wordpress.com/2008/07/24/kmail-trunk-signing/ | 10:13 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: how do I load a colour scheme in konsole? | 11:39 |
| Riddell | Appearance tab only has New.. and Edit.. | 11:40 |
| Riddell | hmm, looks faded | 11:41 |
| * Riddell had to start a new Konsole | 11:41 | |
| mornfall | Hm, no alpha5 packages? :( It could seriously use some testing... | 11:58 |
| flaccid | is there a www team? | 12:03 |
| mornfall | Riddell: Could you please request that apt-xapian-index sync? I'll bite the bullet and upload to PPA. | 12:05 |
| mornfall | The rest, that is. | 12:05 |
| DRebellion | vorian, how's monkeystudio looking? | 12:06 |
| Nightrose | flaccid: what do you need? | 12:10 |
| flaccid | is there a web team or something. the documentation link doesn't work on wiki | 12:13 |
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| === mcs is now known as mcas | ||
| mornfall | Let's see if they build without change. | 12:16 |
| Riddell | hmm, apt-xapian-index isn't in sync | 12:19 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: get yourself a bitter display :P | 12:19 |
| Riddell | "add package description summary" doesn't sound too important | 12:19 |
| apachelogger | jussi01: that is the get-used-to-it I was writing about ;-) | 12:19 |
| apachelogger | good morning to everyone else | 12:20 |
| mornfall | Riddell: Hmm? | 12:20 |
| Riddell | mornfall: apt-xapian-index synced | 12:20 |
| mornfall | Riddell: Thanks. | 12:20 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: hrm, its still too red... all the othe colors are slightly pastelized, but the red... and dont I get a good morning? :/ | 12:21 |
| apachelogger | jussi01: good afternoon :P | 12:21 |
| mornfall | Oh. I consistently mis-spell intrepid. Bwah. : - ) | 12:22 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: :D | 12:22 |
| apachelogger | jussi01: http://files.ruphy.org/oxy-konsole1.png | 12:22 |
| Nightrose | flaccid: it is a wiki - you should be able to change it | 12:22 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: it's the headers | 12:23 |
| Nightrose | ah | 12:23 |
| apachelogger | jussi01: if the red does look too strong in context ýou should check your display | 12:23 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: http://imagebin.ca/view/HELgo7N.html | 12:27 |
| jussi01 | just a touch softer IMHO | 12:28 |
| apachelogger | well | 12:31 |
| apachelogger | for cmake it appears so strong because the font is bold :P | 12:31 |
| mornfall | Riddell: About that planet subscription... Should I poke clee instead? | 12:40 |
| mornfall | Riddell: [http://web.mornfall.net/planet/kde.rss] | 12:40 |
| mornfall | Riddell: name = Petr Rockai | 12:40 |
| mornfall | Or make that name = Petr Rockai (mornfall) | 12:40 |
| Riddell | mornfall: pushed, should appear in half an hour or so | 12:46 |
| mornfall | Riddell: Danke schön. | 12:47 |
| mcas | apachelogger: ping | 12:48 |
| apachelogger | mcas: pong | 12:48 |
| mcas | i have a bug at launchpad that could be related to the kate "close with X" problem | 12:49 |
| mcas | lp 253913 | 12:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 253913 in kdesdk "kate starts only in terminal." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/253913 | 12:49 |
| mcas | sorry lp 253912 | 12:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 253912 in kdesdk "When kde starts many instance of kate run." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/253912 | 12:49 |
| apachelogger | hm | 12:50 |
| apachelogger | it is | 12:50 |
| apachelogger | we use --use to reuse existing Kate session | 12:50 |
| apachelogger | now there is an existing session - it is just technically quit ;-) | 12:50 |
| mcas | ok can i mark it as duplicate? | 12:50 |
| apachelogger | yes | 12:50 |
| apachelogger | mcas: please also add a comment to the other bug | 12:50 |
| mcas | should i subscribe you at this bug | 12:51 |
| apachelogger | mcas: I am most likely already ;-) | 12:52 |
| techno_freak | just to let you guys know if you missed my last message - bug #253858 | 12:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 253858 in python-kde4 "python-kde4 conflicts with python-kde4-dev while dealing with pykdeuic4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/253858 | 12:52 |
| mcas | ok ;-) | 12:52 |
| apachelogger | hm | 12:55 |
| apachelogger | something is wrong here | 12:55 |
| vorian | morning | 12:56 |
| mornfall | Hm, PPAs are unusually quick these days. | 12:56 |
| apachelogger | techno_freak: unlikely issue | 12:57 |
| techno_freak | apachelogger, will check it once again now :) | 12:58 |
| Xand3r | hey ho! | 12:59 |
| mcas | apachelogger: i add a comment and hope it is correct ;-) | 12:59 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: bug 251053 is fixed isn't it? | 13:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 251053 in kdesdk "[upgrade error] missing replaces of kdesk-scripts on kdelibs4-dev" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251053 | 13:00 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: rubberband: why i have to add a install file? i have the install commands in the rules | 13:00 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: man dh_install | 13:01 |
| vorian | or kdeedu ... | 13:01 |
| apachelogger | how is make install gonna know which file belongs to which package? | 13:01 |
| apachelogger | magic? | 13:01 |
| apachelogger | guessing? | 13:01 |
| apachelogger | or maybe you should define that? :P | 13:01 |
| vorian | yes, magic | 13:01 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: should be yes | 13:01 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: have you watched my rule file? | 13:01 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: no | 13:01 |
| apachelogger | thing is | 13:02 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: lol | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | the debs are empty | 13:02 |
| Xand3r | not for me | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | ha | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | you want proof | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | no problem | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/ | 13:03 |
| Xand3r | -rwxr-xr-x root/root 167072 2008-07-31 21:38 ./usr/bin/rubberband | 13:03 |
| apachelogger | a klingon warship would fit in these packages, so empty are they :P | 13:03 |
| emunkki | lol | 13:04 |
| Xand3r | there is the bin | 13:04 |
| apachelogger | hm | 13:04 |
| apachelogger | one bin | 13:04 |
| apachelogger | 3 | 13:04 |
| apachelogger | packages | 13:04 |
| vorian | YODA! | 13:04 |
| apachelogger | that can't be good :P | 13:04 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: you know the others are libs | 13:04 |
| Xand3r | gnnaaa why is your lib empty | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | so they are supposed to be empty because they are libs? Oo | 13:05 |
| smarter | howdy ho | 13:05 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: no | 13:05 |
| emunkki | apachelogger, if he doesn't have any books? | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | ahoy smarter | 13:05 |
| Riddell | Xand3r: "$(CURDIR)/debian/librubberband0/usr/lib/ladspa/ladspa-rubberband.so" 0 should be 2 | 13:06 |
| smarter | afternoon apachelogger | 13:06 |
| Riddell | Xand3r: but doesn't it have a normal "make install" target you can use? | 13:06 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: why the lib* package is empty hell | 13:06 |
| Xand3r | Riddell: no | 13:06 |
| Xand3r | Riddell: | 13:06 |
| apachelogger | emunkki: good point | 13:06 |
| Xand3r | its realy strange that source | 13:06 |
| * apachelogger can't aggree on that | 13:07 | |
| Xand3r | back at work | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | but I also didn't look into the source now :P | 13:07 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: thanks for review | 13:07 |
| Riddell | Xand3r: running debuild I get files in debian/tmp/ | 13:07 |
| Xand3r | and thanks to the guy wich uploaded digikam | 13:07 |
| * Tm_T hugs emunkki | 13:07 | |
| Riddell | Xand3r: so just add <pacakgename>.install files which list which files you want | 13:07 |
| * emunkki hugs Tm_T | 13:08 | |
| Xand3r | Riddell: i did that thousend times before | 13:08 |
| Xand3r | dh_install could not find the files | 13:08 |
| Tm_T | emunkki: haven't seen you for awhile | 13:08 |
| emunkki | Tm_T, sure, haven't been hanging around #amarok lately | 13:09 |
| emunkki | Tm_T, been busy with commercial clients | 13:09 |
| Tm_T | emunkki: understandable | 13:09 |
| Riddell | cat debian/rubberband.install | 13:10 |
| Riddell | debian/tmp/usr/bin/rubberband | 13:10 |
| Riddell | Xand3r: works for me | 13:10 |
| Xand3r | Riddell: that i have tested and it didnt work | 13:10 |
| Xand3r | i will test it again, thx | 13:10 |
| Xand3r | realy strange the world | 13:10 |
| emunkki | Tm_T, you might've seen the mockup i did for kubuntu-web? | 13:10 |
| Tm_T | emunkki: not yet, where's that? | 13:11 |
| vorian | kdegraphics is broken | 13:12 |
| emunkki | Tm_T, http://emonk.fi/work/kubuntu/ there's a few actually | 13:12 |
| Tm_T | check | 13:12 |
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| apachelogger | Riddell: if we want a good amarok 2 (not taking into account whether thi is stabel before intrepid ;-) we should get libmtp 0.3.0 from debian | 13:25 |
| Rioting_pacifist | i want to recompile my clock applet with a patch, where do i find the sources in the repos? kdebase-dev is all i can see | 13:26 |
| JontheEchidna | kdebase-workspace has plasma stuff | 13:27 |
| Rioting_pacifist | im still on kde3 | 13:28 |
| JontheEchidna | so do you need the plasma headers? | 13:28 |
| JontheEchidna | or are you trying to get the source code of the plasmoids? | 13:28 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: hmm, that needs a small bit of merging as I remember | 13:30 |
| DRebellion | Any MOTUs here that could take a look at monkeystudio? It is a Qt IDE: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=monkeystudio | 13:30 |
| * apachelogger shudders | 13:30 | |
| * apachelogger queries vorian about status information of is monkeystudio review | 13:31 | |
| Rioting_pacifist | erm i dont know much about kde but im looking to patch "kicker/applets/clock" in kdebase-3.5.* | 13:31 |
| apachelogger | Rioting_pacifist: apt-get source kdebase | 13:31 |
| DRebellion | apachelogger, what timezone is vorian in? | 13:31 |
| Riddell | something US | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | we should all try to live according to UTC :P | 13:33 |
| vorian | DRebellion: Eastern US | 13:33 |
| DRebellion | vorian, hey :D | 13:33 |
| vorian | hello :) | 13:33 |
| apachelogger | hm | 13:33 |
| emunkki | apachelogger, wonderful idea | 13:33 |
| Xand3r | i want to die, why now it works? i feel like e realy noob | 13:33 |
| apachelogger | that would be a kickass quassel feature - detecting the timezone based on the times a nick is active :D | 13:33 |
| jpds | apachelogger: /ctcp <nick> time. | 13:34 |
| apachelogger | uh | 13:34 |
| apachelogger | ctcp | 13:34 |
| jpds | I don't recommend actually doing that tho.. | 13:34 |
| emunkki | haha. | 13:34 |
| apachelogger | it may burn | 13:34 |
| apachelogger | burn baby burn | 13:34 |
| DRebellion | that failed | 13:34 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: we all know that feeling, I guess ... well, except for Riddell, his creator did a pretty good job to begin with ;-) | 13:35 |
| emunkki | o.O | 13:35 |
| DRebellion | vorian, so, how's monkeystudio? | 13:35 |
| vorian | good good | 13:35 |
| vorian | i'm just doing another once over | 13:36 |
| DRebellion | :) | 13:36 |
| DRebellion | finally some good news | 13:36 |
| * apachelogger notes that he hopes to finish catching up with his mails today | 13:36 | |
| apachelogger | then he can look at monekystudio again | 13:36 |
| apachelogger | or I in that case | 13:36 |
| emunkki | apachelogger, want a few more? | 13:36 |
| apachelogger | emunkki: no | 13:36 |
| * apachelogger has to read strange bug report mails | 13:37 | |
| apachelogger | kmail should drop out bugs which are closed | 13:37 |
| Rioting_pacifist | thx does apt-get source kdebase get it with all the ubuntu patches | 13:37 |
| DRebellion | =( kubuntu-kde4-desktop made all my qt based apps look rubbish in gnome | 13:37 |
| DRebellion | even after removal | 13:38 |
| DRebellion | Rioting_pacifist, yes | 13:38 |
| apachelogger | DRebellion: well, it made it look gtk :P | 13:38 |
| DRebellion | grr | 13:39 |
| * DRebellion spent the whole morning going through the kubuntu-kde4-desktop dependencies one by one and purging the hell out of them | 13:39 | |
| * smarter guess gtk-qt-engine-kde4 | 13:39 | |
| apachelogger | sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-kde4-desktop && sudo apt-get --purge autoremove | 13:39 |
| apachelogger | :P | 13:39 |
| Xand3r | ldconfig-symlink-missing-for-shlib usr/lib/librubberband.so.2 usr/lib/librubberband.so.2.0.0 librubberband.so.2 ; that means i have to install a smylink from usr/lib/librubberband.so.2.0.0 to librubberband.so.2 ; apachelogger is that right? | 13:40 |
| DRebellion | apachelogger, that was an epic fail, remember? | 13:40 |
| apachelogger | smarter: that doesn't effect Qt based apps | 13:40 |
| apachelogger | DRebellion: no | 13:40 |
| DRebellion | smarter, i will take a look | 13:40 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: pretty much | 13:40 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: although actually make install should do that | 13:40 |
| smarter | DRebellion: try changing the theme with qtconfig-qt4 (apt-get install qt4-qtconfig) | 13:40 |
| apachelogger | please check whether you not just missed to install the file before you start creating symlinks yourself | 13:40 |
| DRebellion | smarter, which way round? 0o | 13:41 |
| smarter | DRebellion: qt4-qtconfig = package, qtconfig-qt4 = command to type | 13:41 |
| smarter | (thanks to the Debian packagers for that :P) | 13:41 |
| DRebellion | oh dear | 13:41 |
| DRebellion | hehe | 13:41 |
| DRebellion | smarter, it's fixed! | 13:43 |
| DRebellion | thanks :D | 13:43 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: thats the make install http://paste.ubuntu.com/32968/ am i to blind to see it? | 13:43 |
| apachelogger | test -n ".2.0.0" && ln -s librubberband.so.2.0.0 /tmp/buildd/rubberband-1.2/debian/tmp//usr/lib/librubberband.so | 13:44 |
| * apachelogger finds that quite strange | 13:44 | |
| apachelogger | or | 13:45 |
| * apachelogger needs a coffee before thinking about shared libs | 13:45 | |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: i have no clue what it does, never saw the test command before, you are the master, how else could know it? | 13:46 |
| apachelogger | ls debian/tmp/usr/lib | 13:46 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: i am using pbuilder sorry | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: please comment on bug 203349 | 13:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 203349 in language-pack-kde-sv "Broken plural forms in KDE" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203349 | 13:49 |
| * apachelogger is getting annoying | 13:50 | |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: use a hooker | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | or manual build in pbuilder | 13:50 |
| vorian | O.o | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | or don't use pbuilder for .installs | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | vorian: not that kind of hooker :P | 13:50 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: i use a hook | 13:50 |
| emunkki | "this is a family channel" | 13:50 |
| vorian | :) | 13:50 |
| Riddell | DRebellion: monkeystudio works for me, advocated | 13:52 |
| vorian | DRebellion: likewise, uploading :) | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: when is froscon? | 13:59 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: 23/24 | 14:00 |
| * apachelogger should probably get a flight ;-) | 14:00 | |
| emunkki | apachelogger, you can walk | 14:00 |
| apachelogger | then I will have to start tomorrow | 14:00 |
| emunkki | sounds good | 14:00 |
| mornfall | Pretty please, can someone test that adept from: | 14:06 |
| mornfall | deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mornfall/ubuntu intrepid main | 14:06 |
| mornfall | installs and runs? | 14:06 |
| vorian | sure :) | 14:06 |
| JontheEchidna | The stuff in the accessibility folder of kubuntu-default-settings isn't very up-to-date, is it? | 14:07 |
| * JontheEchidna doesn't even know if it's being used | 14:08 | |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: no, keep the files there but don't install them for now, it needs re-done for KDE 4 | 14:08 |
| Riddell | it was used in KDE 3, you could boot up into various profiles | 14:08 |
| JontheEchidna | ok | 14:08 |
| JontheEchidna | Well if you'd like to see my work so far, I pushed 2 commits worth | 14:09 |
| mornfall | vorian: Please also read the text at https://launchpad.net/~mornfall/+archive -- it might help you testing ; - ) | 14:10 |
| vorian | ta :) | 14:10 |
| Riddell | mornfall: sweet, works | 14:15 |
| Riddell | installer window seems to be larger than my screen | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: what is the preferred bug for th systray painting issue? | 14:16 |
| Riddell | mornfall: crash on close http://paste.ubuntu.com/32974/ | 14:17 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: ping | 14:17 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: in LP? | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | aye | 14:17 |
| Riddell | hi davmor2 | 14:17 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm | 14:18 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: I'm doing a bunch of smoke tests https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/DailySmoke todays Kubuntu live cd is missing the desktop widget so to start the install you need to go through dolphin, into desktop, then start. | 14:19 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: I'm thinking 247393 | 14:19 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 247393 | 14:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 247393 in kdebase-workspace "[Intrepid KDE4] regression -- systray is incorrectly painted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/247393 | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | thx | 14:19 |
| Riddell | davmor2: I believe the package just needs a rebuild, which I'll do shortly, so that should fix itself by tomorrow | 14:20 |
| jussi01 | JontheEchidna: I have an idea for you - wrt plasmoids - if it hasnt been come up with yet - want to hear? | 14:21 |
| davmor2 | cool I thought it might be something like that just checking that you knew. So when I test on monday it should be fixed right? | 14:21 |
| Riddell | davmor2: yes should be | 14:21 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: now rubberband is fine i think maybe you could review it again | 14:21 |
| JontheEchidna | jussi01: sure | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: doing bug triage right now | 14:22 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: ok | 14:22 |
| jussi01 | JontheEchidna: Id love to see a konsole plasmoid - an actual embedded konsole, not just a launcher | 14:22 |
| JontheEchidna | go apachelogger | 14:22 |
| JontheEchidna | jussi01: that would be cool | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | 211 reports more :S | 14:22 |
| jussi01 | JontheEchidna: oh, and if someone wants to adapt the twitter plasmoid to take jaiku, that would be wonderful | 14:23 |
| JontheEchidna | Heh, you ever seen those long guides for setting your terminal as the background in Gnome? | 14:24 |
| JontheEchidna | you like, have to install obscure software | 14:24 |
| JontheEchidna | and modify half of a config file to do it | 14:24 |
| JontheEchidna | a konsole plasmoid would make it tons easier to do | 14:24 |
| JontheEchidna | if a konsole plasmoid were to magically fall out of the sky right now all you would have to do would be: | 14:25 |
| JontheEchidna | -install the plasmoid | 14:25 |
| JontheEchidna | -Change a single line of plasma-appletsrc | 14:25 |
| JontheEchidna | that shows the power of Plasma | 14:26 |
| jussi01 | cool! | 14:26 |
| JontheEchidna | well the plasmoid would have to have support for being a containment | 14:27 |
| JontheEchidna | bug that's only 3 or 4 more lines of code in the actual plasmoid | 14:27 |
| JontheEchidna | *but | 14:27 |
| JontheEchidna | if only there were (working) python bindings for plasma :( | 14:27 |
| JontheEchidna | btw, if we make our own plasmoids in the future, I'd discourage C++ where possible | 14:28 |
| jussi01 | hrm, is there a rss plasmoid yet? | 14:28 |
| JontheEchidna | jussi01: there's one in playground that works well | 14:28 |
| JontheEchidna | and ironically | 14:28 |
| JontheEchidna | one in kdenetwork that looks like crap | 14:28 |
| JontheEchidna | \o/ | 14:28 |
| jussi01 | ok, Im off to get my wife - back later. | 14:29 |
| mornfall | Riddell: Indeed, I have that crash on TODO -- I discovered it only somewhere around where I have tagged the alpha. | 14:34 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: bug 175904 - there is no 4.1 for gutsy! | 14:35 |
| DRebellion | Riddell, vorian, apachelogger, yay :D | 14:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 175904 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox-3.0 window moves to current workspace" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175904 | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/175904/comments/48 | 14:35 |
| DRebellion | apachelogger, this is even bigger than posterazor! | 14:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 175904 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox-3.0 window moves to current workspace" [Medium,Confirmed] | 14:35 |
| mornfall | (The Xapian rebuild is teh slow. Hmh.) | 14:37 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: d'oh | 14:37 |
| JontheEchidna | I guess I'll reclose that then | 14:38 |
| JontheEchidna | for kwin | 14:38 |
| mornfall | Riddell: As for the installer window, it fits into a quadrant (1/4th) of my 1024x768 laptop screen? Not very well, but on 800x600 it should work fine? I'd hope... | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: why did you unassign from kdpkg? | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: would say so | 14:41 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: hmm, i was angry about it | 14:41 |
| Xand3r | i sign it again^^ | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | dood | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | don't unassign from packages randomly | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | that is confusing | 14:41 |
| apachelogger | and it floods peoples inbox | 14:41 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: kk | 14:42 |
| mornfall | I'm off to train. See you in the evening, hopefully. | 14:43 |
| Riddell | mornfall: tried installer again and didn't have any sizing issues | 14:50 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: what do you think about bug 245557? | 15:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 245557 in kdebase-kde4 "Icon size has no effect in preview mode, depends entirely on preview size instead" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/245557 | 15:00 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: won't fix I think | 15:02 |
| JontheEchidna | upstream said as much | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | that would be quite some difference in behavior for kubuntu so we are definitely not going to fix it | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | which leaves it up to upstream to address that wish | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: want to try fixing bug 253878 ? | 15:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 253878 in kdebase-workspace "/var/log/kdm.log not being rotated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/253878 | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | probably some issue in the init file | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | having the wrong log file configured or something | 15:06 |
| JontheEchidna | I could at least take a look | 15:06 |
| JontheEchidna | and try | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | oh | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: also bug 248891 | 15:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 248891 in kdebase-workspace "broken init script" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/248891 | 15:06 |
| Riddell | mornfall: search doesn't seem to work in installer and the entries don't seem to be sorted alphabetically, makes it hard to find stuff :) | 15:07 |
| apachelogger | I think the paths changed | 15:07 |
| * JontheEchidna puts on "to look at" list | 15:07 | |
| * apachelogger goes showering because it is so hot | 15:07 | |
| * JontheEchidna goes off to exercise the dog | 15:08 | |
| vorian | Xand3r: there is a new upstream for digikam | 15:10 |
| Xand3r | head meet desk | 15:12 |
| jpds | apachelogger: Showers don't help against the heat :( | 15:12 |
| Riddell | Xand3r: packaging can be like painting the Forth bridge :) | 15:17 |
| Xand3r | if i am at the end i can start again | 15:20 |
| vorian | Xand3r: use uupdate | 15:20 |
| Xand3r | vorian: no watchfile left^^ | 15:20 |
| Xand3r | yea | 15:20 |
| vorian | you can still do that with the source package | 15:20 |
| vorian | make a file called digikam | 15:21 |
| vorian | cd digikam | 15:21 |
| Xand3r | vorian: i will do it like i do^^ but thx | 15:21 |
| vorian | alrighty, what ever floats yer boat :) | 15:21 |
| Xand3r | yea^^ | 15:23 |
| apachelogger | jpds: cold showers cool down the blood stream causing short-term improvement, warm showers open pores (including sweat pores) and therefore support the built-in cooling system ;-) | 15:30 |
| apachelogger | in addition to that you aren't sweaty after a shower :P | 15:30 |
| Xand3r | now testbuilding digikam-kde4 beta2 | 15:32 |
| jpds | apachelogger: This place is just too hot then. | 15:33 |
| Xand3r | befor an 23minutes long update before | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | jpds: probably :) | 15:33 |
| Xand3r | outdor temp maybe 20-25°C in my room 30°C, cause is my pc | 15:34 |
| JontheEchidna | my room is about at room temperature | 15:35 |
| vorian | haha | 15:35 |
| * JontheEchidna is celcius noob | 15:36 | |
| * GreySim always uses Google for that. "75F in C" and whatnot. | 15:37 | |
| JontheEchidna | this room is 22.22222222222 degrees C | 15:38 |
| Xand3r | we have to ad a UTC timezone for the clovk apllet | 15:42 |
| Xand3r | *clock | 15:42 |
| Xand3r | *applet | 15:42 |
| \sh | Xand3r: which clock applet? | 15:43 |
| JontheEchidna | the clock applet's timezone feature sucks | 15:43 |
| JontheEchidna | bigtime | 15:43 |
| JontheEchidna | it's a list of like a hundered cities | 15:43 |
| JontheEchidna | so you have to find a city in teh timezone you want | 15:44 |
| Xand3r | and not the time zone^^ | 15:44 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah | 15:44 |
| Xand3r | stupid | 15:44 |
| Xand3r | so were does the list comes from and how to change it | 15:45 |
| GreySim | I don't know if this is helpful at all, but GNOME's clock applet as of at least 2.22 had a really good selection mechanism. I was able to just type "Ellensburg" (a very small college town in eastern Washington) and it was in there. | 15:45 |
| GreySim | Maybe they have a good list. | 15:45 |
| \sh | well, the clock applet just works the same as my nokia clock applet ,-) | 15:45 |
| JontheEchidna | GreySim: the thing is, you can't type | 15:45 |
| \sh | there is no timezone in general, but the country or at least one or two cities of one country | 15:46 |
| JontheEchidna | you have a monolithic, non-sortable list | 15:46 |
| GreySim | JontheEchidna: Right, but it was in the list. Unless it was fetching results online. | 15:46 |
| Xand3r | GreySim: but if you know the time zone you are in, why shuld you dont select irt directly? | 15:46 |
| JontheEchidna | Xand3r: it comes from the date and times section is systemsettings | 15:46 |
| Xand3r | aha | 15:46 |
| JontheEchidna | well at least it's using the same widget | 15:47 |
| GreySim | Xand3r: Good point. I guess that would be a good default, with an option to search by city or something, but not as the default list... | 15:47 |
| \sh | Xand3r: the fun part is, that you can add more then one applet and eventually you want to have the time of london or south africa | 15:47 |
| \sh | Xand3r: additionally to your local timezone (which is the default) | 15:47 |
| \sh | and my timezone is always UTC ,-> | 15:48 |
| Xand3r | \sh: and? i mean the list is stupid only list cities, there should be a option to choos the time zone directly | 15:49 |
| Xand3r | and in the applet the name is UTC+2 or so | 15:49 |
| \sh | Xand3r: what is the timezone of auckland, nz? without looking? | 15:50 |
| \sh | Xand3r: the only case we have to change is the list widget, to just be searchable. | 15:50 |
| Xand3r | \sh: and add fields with the timezone named so ucould choos it dircetly if you know it, cause not every city is in the list | 15:52 |
| Xand3r | or make it possible to add fields | 15:53 |
| \sh | Xand3r: imho all city names are also in /usr/share/zoneinfo/ ...so that's sensible...but yes, it needs to be searchable | 15:53 |
| \sh | yes..all the info in the listbox is matchable to /usr/share/zoneinfo/* | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: bug 183289 if you are really bored | 15:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 183289 in kdebindings-kde4 "Superkaramba-kde4 is not able to run some themes" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183289 | 15:54 |
| \sh | Xand3r: and when I switch to Europe/Berlin timezone, the applet just tells me, I'm belonging to berlin | 15:55 |
| Xand3r | yea | 15:57 |
| \sh | so the applet list just needs some UI critics of seele and after that some love of a dev :) | 15:57 |
| Xand3r | that would be good | 15:59 |
| \sh | Xand3r: you could do it...to make the list sortable and searchable is quite easy imho..sortable is just a method call away...and searchable, well, catching the keyevents and display somewhere an editline | 16:00 |
| Xand3r | \sh: i ? | 16:00 |
| Xand3r | \sh: how much time have you? | 16:01 |
| Xand3r | i am not a programmer | 16:01 |
| Xand3r | i never done something like this | 16:01 |
| Xand3r | i dont know where i could do this | 16:01 |
| Xand3r | \sh: take my hand and show me the magick | 16:01 |
| Xand3r | please | 16:02 |
| Xand3r | i always for got to be polite sorry | 16:02 |
| \sh | Xand3r: use the source, luke ;) catch the source of the applet (whatever package that is, or check svn) | 16:03 |
| \sh | Xand3r: check how the applet does the UI (via designer files, or inside the code...check for QTreeListWidget or whatever they use..) | 16:04 |
| \sh | Xand3r: most probaly they subsclassed the widget so check there..or they subclassed the widget list item ...depends... | 16:05 |
| \sh | Xand3r: check the qt docs on doc.trolltech.com and find the "isSortable(bool ...)" method for the tree widget and enable that..(or enable it in the designer if they are using ui files) | 16:06 |
| \sh | Xand3r: finally try and error :) learn :) | 16:06 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: amarok-kde4 doesn't like 64 bit :) | 16:06 |
| Riddell | davmor2: oh? | 16:06 |
| \sh | davmor2: what? impossible | 16:06 |
| * \sh is switching to rhythmbox then ,-) | 16:07 | |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, that thunderbird import to kmail went rather smoothly | 16:08 |
| davmor2 | Errors were encountered while processing: | 16:09 |
| davmor2 | /var/cache/apt/archives/amarok-kde4_1.86-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb | 16:09 |
| davmor2 | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 16:09 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: ^ | 16:09 |
| davmor2 | \sh: are you sure you wouldn't prefer banshee :P | 16:10 |
| Riddell | davmor2: what were the errors? | 16:10 |
| apachelogger | \sh: banshee > rhythmbox | 16:13 |
| * apachelogger dist-upgrades the laptop | 16:13 | |
| davmor2 | Riddell: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/amarok.png', which is also in package amarok-common | 16:13 |
| JontheEchidna | Currenly you have to copy ~/.kde4 to ~/.kde if you dist-upgrade, correct? | 16:16 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: if you want to keep the settings from ~/.kde4 you do | 16:20 |
| JontheEchidna | Hmm | 16:21 |
| JontheEchidna | I think I'll manually copy over what I want to keep | 16:21 |
| JontheEchidna | what's the command again? | 16:21 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: my apt-cache only has python-kde4-dev 4.0.98 ... but https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/i386/python-kde4-dev/4:4.1.0-0ubuntu1 :S | 16:21 |
| JontheEchidna | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -d? | 16:21 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: update-manager -d or something | 16:22 |
| JontheEchidna | ah | 16:22 |
| JontheEchidna | I got the -d right | 16:22 |
| Xand3r | \sh: thx | 16:22 |
| \sh | apachelogger: banshee != default == rhythmbox .. but I know you'll fix amarok-kde4 to run on x86_64 :) | 16:23 |
| apachelogger | \sh: you are underestimating me | 16:23 |
| \sh | JontheEchidna: no problems? I jsut tried to clean my trash with >80k mails . and kmail-kde4 always crashed :) | 16:23 |
| apachelogger | even though davmor2 didn't talk to me even though I made the package :P .... I actually already pushed the fix | 16:24 |
| apachelogger | Riddell just needs to upload the new amarok-kde4 | 16:24 |
| vorian | http://paste.ubuntu.com/33016/ silly blueteeth | 16:24 |
| JontheEchidna | damn, that's a lot | 16:24 |
| JontheEchidna | jonathan@jonathan-desktop:~/Documents/sauce/plasmoid-flickr$ update-manager -d | 16:24 |
| JontheEchidna | Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries | 16:24 |
| JontheEchidna | ^halp | 16:24 |
| davmor2 | apachelogger: :P back with bells on. I always pick on Riddell and let him sort it from there :) | 16:24 |
| apachelogger | davmor2: that is a pretty bad idea | 16:25 |
| davmor2 | apachelogger: Thanks though :) I'm only trying to make things better :) | 16:25 |
| apachelogger | davmor2: Riddell is always busy | 16:25 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I do? where's the new amarok-kde4? | 16:25 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: bzr | 16:25 |
| JontheEchidna | I guess I'll have to do it the old fashioned way | 16:26 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/amarok/ubuntu-kde4 | 16:26 |
| JontheEchidna | It seems update manager doesn't like Qt 4.4.0 | 16:26 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: probably gtk-qt-engine bits | 16:26 |
| JontheEchidna | I'll just change hardy to intrepid in etc/sources.list | 16:27 |
| JontheEchidna | and hope everything goes smoothly | 16:27 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: we do have adept for kubuntu users | 16:27 |
| Riddell | adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel | 16:28 |
| smarter | JontheEchidna: if everything fails, try do-release-upgrade -d --mode=desktop | 16:28 |
| JontheEchidna | adept does dist-upgrades? | 16:29 |
| JontheEchidna | cool | 16:29 |
| JontheEchidna | ok | 16:29 |
| Xand3r | \sh: i think i have found the source :D | 16:35 |
| JontheEchidna | dan | 16:35 |
| JontheEchidna | *damn | 16:35 |
| JontheEchidna | one gig worth of updates | 16:36 |
| JontheEchidna | probably will take 3 hours | 16:37 |
| Xand3r | no ui files | 16:37 |
| JontheEchidna | eh, 2 hours | 16:38 |
| JontheEchidna | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Helion.pl+-+30%25+discount+offers?content=86153 | 16:39 |
| JontheEchidna | ^lol | 16:39 |
| JontheEchidna | heh | 16:39 |
| JontheEchidna | I won't be packaging that one I don't thin | 16:40 |
| JontheEchidna | k | 16:40 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: why? | 16:40 |
| vorian | :( | 16:40 |
| JontheEchidna | I have a secret vendetta against Polish bookstores | 16:41 |
| vorian | yay! | 16:42 |
| vorian | mesa fix is on the way! | 16:42 |
| * vorian dances | 16:42 | |
| vorian | JontheEchidna: you could recode that to amazon or some such discount site :) | 16:43 |
| vorian | that would be fun | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: *poke* | 16:44 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: yea? | 16:44 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: what is all that commented stuff in debian/rules? | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | and that ls debian/tmp | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | Description: shared library for rubberband | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | This is the shared library for Rubber Band. | 16:45 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: i dont removed it, dont know if i need it somehow somewhere sometime | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | that first sentence in the long description is repeating the synopsis, which is quite bad practise | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: then you just readd it I'd say :P | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | plus it is all replaced by the .installs anyway | 16:46 |
| Xand3r | ja | 16:47 |
| Xand3r | ja | 16:47 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: new libmtp and amarok uploaded | 16:47 |
| Riddell | qt 4.4.1 too | 16:47 |
| apachelogger | wooohooo | 16:47 |
| Xand3r | i hatedescriptions | 16:47 |
| * apachelogger hugs Riddell | 16:47 | |
| vorian | Riddell: have you had a chance to look at bug 243301? | 16:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 243301 in libnet-dns-perl "MIR for libnet-dns-perl" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/243301 | 16:48 |
| vorian | oops | 16:48 |
| vorian | bug 253301 | 16:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 253301 in kdeedu "kdeedu 4.1.0 is ftbfs" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/253301 | 16:48 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: W: Building this package modifies or generates files not in debian/. | 16:50 |
| apachelogger | --- rubberband-1.2.orig/config.log | 16:50 |
| apachelogger | --- rubberband-1.2.orig/Makefile | 16:50 |
| apachelogger | --- rubberband-1.2.orig/config.status | 16:50 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: from the manpage: You can listen to some examples, or read more about the rationale for and advantages of Rubber Band. | 16:52 |
| apachelogger | where? Oo | 16:52 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: ? | 16:53 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: ? | 16:53 |
| Xand3r | -.- | 16:53 |
| apachelogger | :P | 16:54 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: in debian/copright please move the "On Debian systems, the complete text of the GNU General Public License" right underneath the GPL statement | 16:55 |
| Xand3r | kk | 16:56 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: the .so files should go into -dev | 16:57 |
| apachelogger | only the .so.x and .so.x.x should be in the lib package | 16:57 |
| Xand3r | aah i thought about it, but i didnt done it | 16:57 |
| Riddell | vorian: kalzium loses all its plugins? | 16:59 |
| vorian | they don't exist, I checked the Debian version to be sure | 16:59 |
| yuriy | apachelogger: ugh, this looks awful with irssi!, sorry | 17:00 |
| Riddell | vorian: ok, I'll upload when I do my mass conversion to kde4.mk in a bit | 17:00 |
| vorian | Riddell: thanks | 17:01 |
| apachelogger | yuriy: Nightrose claimed it looks good :P | 17:01 |
| Nightrose | yuriy: it is perfect here - maybe depends on the theme you use | 17:02 |
| Nightrose | i use industrial here | 17:02 |
| * JontheEchidna darkened up the background color | 17:02 | |
| vorian | apachelogger: it's nice for the shell, not for my irssi (secret theme) | 17:02 |
| yuriy | Nightrose: I use the default one | 17:04 |
| jpds | yuriy: You want an irssi theme? | 17:04 |
| yuriy | jpds: wouldn't hurt to try, though I think the default one is just fine | 17:05 |
| Nightrose | yuriy: try industrial | 17:05 |
| jpds | Ah, /me just walked in. | 17:05 |
| jpds | vorian: Oh, come on, blue isn't that secret. | 17:05 |
| Xand3r | \sh: there is no ui file and i have no clue about cpp and qt syntax | 17:05 |
| vorian | :/ | 17:05 |
| vorian | jpds: now you have blown my cover, /me dies | 17:06 |
| jpds | That was easy. | 17:06 |
| txwikinger | Is kflash still used in intrepid ? | 17:07 |
| jpds | yuriy: I personally use blue.theme: http://ks33313.kimsufi.com/~jpds/configs/irssi/blue.theme | 17:07 |
| txwikinger | sorry, I mean Ksplash | 17:07 |
| yuriy | Nightrose: eek. | 17:07 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: ksplashx now | 17:08 |
| txwikinger | Riddell.. is that already available? | 17:08 |
| Nightrose | yuriy: *lol* | 17:09 |
| Nightrose | that bad? | 17:09 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: yes | 17:10 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: in kdebase-workspace-bin (kdebase-workspace source) | 17:10 |
| txwikinger | well.. I think then the dependency of ksplash-engine-moodin might be wrong | 17:12 |
| yuriy | I think I'll just stick with defacto, small improvement over the default, and still very readable. all the other ones just make things less readable (even the one called "more_readable"!) | 17:12 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: what dependency? | 17:14 |
| Riddell | ksplash-engine-moodin should be removed | 17:14 |
| txwikinger | The one to ksplash | 17:14 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: file a bug for removal and subscribe ubuntu-archive | 17:14 |
| txwikinger | ok.. I will do that | 17:14 |
| Riddell | thanks txwikinger | 17:14 |
| txwikinger | and I will think what else I need for ichthux then :D | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | yuriy: what needs to be changed? | 17:15 |
| yuriy | apachelogger: the main thing that bothers me is the gray background. I think console background should always be black so every color has contrast. but I think that theme is just not for me | 17:16 |
| apachelogger | yuriy: ic | 17:22 |
| jpds | yuriy: Can you not change it so the nicks all have different colours? | 17:25 |
| jpds | ie: http://ks33313.kimsufi.com/~jpds/tmp/2008-08-01-172608_1280x1024_scrot.png | 17:28 |
| vorian | jpds: nice layout :) | 17:30 |
| yuriy | jpds: what does that have to do with anything? (though I do kind of miss that from konversation, but I've gotten used to actually reading instead of relying on the colors which tended to be decieving sometimes) | 17:32 |
| jpds | Errr. | 17:32 |
| jpds | yuriy: I think I misread: "every color has contrast". | 17:32 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: please look querry | 17:34 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: --> | 17:42 |
| vorian | yay for compositing! | 17:43 |
| vorian | welcome back | 17:43 |
| * JontheEchidna wonder if compositing with nvidia works | 17:44 | |
| vorian | yes | 17:45 |
| vorian | or depends :) | 17:45 |
| vorian | on my desktop it does gf8600 | 17:45 |
| nixternal | well, I decided against the iPhone and went with the Blueberry | 17:45 |
| vorian | blueberry's are nice | 17:46 |
| nixternal | ya, gotta figure out my ssh issue and not having support for some type of terminal...need to find it and install the support | 17:46 |
| vorian | nixternal: they just pushed thru a mesa fix so composite works again with intel | 17:47 |
| vorian | in intrepid | 17:47 |
| * JontheEchidna has GeForce 4 MX 440 | 17:48 | |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: please look in the querry again. | 18:01 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: query, not querry | 18:02 |
| Xand3r | ok | 18:02 |
| Xand3r | thx | 18:02 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do you archive admins actually have a script to spot binary files? | 18:03 |
| nixternal | vorian: you have a blueberry? | 18:07 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: schau doch nochmal im query | 18:10 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: warum queriest du überhaupt wegen dem µll? | 18:10 |
| Xand3r | weils mir soo peinlich ist | 18:10 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: the question is, would it do the job? | 18:11 |
| JontheEchidna | :( 32 kB/s | 18:14 |
| jpds | apachelogger: man suspicious-source | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: the answer is find out | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | that differs from app to app | 18:15 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: hmm thats mean from the upstream | 18:16 |
| apachelogger | jpds: I have no idea what you are talking about :P | 18:16 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: welcome to autohell | 18:16 |
| Xand3r | ^ | 18:16 |
| Xand3r | ^^ | 18:16 |
| jpds | apachelogger: It's a script to look for files which shouldn't usually be in source tarballs. | 18:17 |
| jpds | apachelogger: 'tis in ubuntu-dev-tools. | 18:17 |
| JontheEchidna | oh crap | 18:18 |
| JontheEchidna | jonathan@jonathan-desktop:/tmp$ firefox | 18:18 |
| JontheEchidna | Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries | 18:18 |
| * JontheEchidna disables gtk-qt-engine | 18:19 | |
| apachelogger | jpds: cool | 18:21 |
| apachelogger | though | 18:21 |
| apachelogger | the one I just created is much better :P | 18:21 |
| apachelogger | except for the shorter whitelist | 18:21 |
| jpds | Heh. | 18:22 |
| apachelogger | mine runs file on the file if the file doesn't match the whitelisted suffixes | 18:22 |
| apachelogger | then sorts out everything at is ASCII or shell scripts | 18:22 |
| apachelogger | s/at/that | 18:23 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: how do you mean spot binary files? | 18:23 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: well, exactly what suspicious-source does basically | 18:24 |
| apachelogger | exaclty + basically is rather strange though | 18:24 |
| Riddell | don't know what suspicious-source is | 18:25 |
| jpds | "apachelogger: man suspicious-source" :) | 18:26 |
| jpds | apachelogger: Adding file support would be cool tho. | 18:26 |
| Riddell | No manual entry for suspicious-source | 18:26 |
| jpds | Riddell: install ubuntu-dev-tools | 18:27 |
| * apachelogger didn't had ubuntu-dev-tools installed either :P | 18:27 | |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: where did you get the information from, if the files are removed or not? lintian dont gifs me that information | 18:27 |
| jpds | apachelogger: Don't you use "requestsync" and co? | 18:27 |
| Riddell | ah, yes, we have those | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: you know, I got scritps for every thing :P | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | now even for finding pdfs without source | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | jpds: I use queryarchiveadmin :P | 18:29 |
| Xand3r | ? a script? | 18:29 |
| jpds | apachelogger: Ah. | 18:29 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: published somewhere? | 18:30 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: i have a script for such a thing, nerver heard about it | 18:31 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: it's just an older version of suspicious-source | 18:31 |
| apachelogger | I see | 18:31 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: pardon? | 18:32 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: sometimes you sound like the insanity bot :P | 18:32 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: maybe i am the bot but, dont tell anyone about it | 18:33 |
| * apachelogger diggs that secret in knotes | 18:34 | |
| apachelogger | that doesn't make any sense either | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | ah | 18:34 |
| apachelogger | it's too hot | 18:34 |
| Xand3r | apachelogger: but tellme how i can check if the files are removed or not | 18:34 |
| nixternal | sure/wi6 | 18:36 |
| nixternal | haha, nice | 18:36 |
| jpds | nixternal: fail. and http://paste.ubuntu.com/33049/ | 18:37 |
| apachelogger | Xand3r: debuild it | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | extract the orig tarball to foobar.orig | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | diff the orig source with the one after debuild | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | if it contains only files in /debian/ then everything works fine | 18:39 |
| Xand3r | hmm? | 18:39 |
| nixternal | don't throw me any pastebins | 18:40 |
| nixternal | jpds: ya, I have had that forever, but I am so used to doing /win tab 20 | 18:41 |
| jpds | nixternal: I find typing two integers easier :) | 18:41 |
| mornfall | Riddell: Ah, hm, search does work, but it does exact substring matches only. I'll have to fix that... | 18:50 |
| Xand3r | sorry apachelogger now is party time, i will go now, i wish you and every one else a realy nice friday and sleep well, c ya | 18:50 |
| mornfall | Riddell: Case-sensitive, even. | 18:50 |
| Riddell | sigh, I uploaded the world and it all broke | 20:19 |
| smarter | Riddell: what broke? | 20:20 |
| DaSkreech | * | 20:22 |
| Riddell | smbclient for one http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16483125/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-amd64.kdebase-runtime_4%3A4.1.0-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 20:23 |
| === echidnaman is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| SolarWar | hey folks, I'm looking for someone to advocate or comment my super awesome package of Qlix- a program that allows users to easily transfer music to MTP devices (like the zune) http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=qlix | 22:47 |
| === mcas is now known as mcas_away | ||
| Daskreech | SolarWar: What does it use? | 23:20 |
| SolarWar | Daskreech, it uses QT 4.3, taglib and libmtp | 23:29 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 23:32 |
| JontheEchidna | during the middle of the upgrade Konqueror said that http was an unknown protocol | 23:33 |
| JontheEchidna | and shortly after it crashed | 23:33 |
| JontheEchidna | probably because of the path chagne | 23:35 |
| JontheEchidna | whoa | 23:36 |
| JontheEchidna | the icon changed for the device notifier | 23:36 |
| JontheEchidna | and the icon for kmenu disappeared | 23:36 |
| JontheEchidna | things are getting strange... | 23:36 |
| JontheEchidna | hopefully konsole doesn't bork | 23:37 |
| * JontheEchidna hopes people won't have this sort of problem soft-upgrading to intrepid | 23:38 | |
| JontheEchidna | lol, device notifier icon totally gone | 23:45 |
| Daskreech | JontheEchidna: Did the same for me :) | 23:48 |
| JontheEchidna | maybe we could write a custom update tool that steals the screen so that people don't crap up their systems while upgrading? | 23:48 |
| Daskreech | JontheEchidna: Except it also told me that It couldn't see any website because the plugin for Google was now invalid | 23:48 |
| JontheEchidna | heh | 23:48 |
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