[00:06] <JontheEchidna> Hmm, I think kubuntu-default-settings is still using hardy cdbs
[00:07] <JontheEchidna> oh, it doesnt' use cdbs
[00:07] <JontheEchidna> no matter
[00:07] <JontheEchidna> s/matter/problem
[00:07] <JontheEchidna> oh, debian/rules says it does...
[00:08] <JontheEchidna> but I don't see a cdbs folder in debain???
[00:08] <JontheEchidna> *debian
[00:20]  * JontheEchidna is pushing his  kubuntu-default-settings changes if anybody is interested
[00:24]  * JontheEchidna thinks uploading will take a while since he moved around megabytes worth of  files
[00:31] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: the background looks a bit washed out
[00:32] <JontheEchidna> imo
[00:33] <JontheEchidna> otherwise it looks smashing
[00:34] <JontheEchidna> maybe I just need to get used to it like you said :P
[00:38] <JontheEchidna> apparently I did the stuff in my bashrc wrong
[00:39] <emunkki> which bg?
[00:40] <JontheEchidna> emunkki: http://apachelog.blogspot.com/2008/07/breath-of-fresh-air-for-konsole.html
[00:40] <emunkki> a-ha
[00:42] <vorian> yoyoyo
[00:42] <JontheEchidna> yay, that's better
[01:08] <ScottK> I think at some point we should declare 4.1 for Hardy done and move if from the PPA to hardy-backports.  How close are we to that?
[01:09] <JontheEchidna> we should probably get translations working before that
[01:09] <ScottK> I think that got solved in Intrepid today.
[01:09] <ScottK> What else is needing done?
[01:12] <vorian> I thinks it's done
[01:12]  * vorian checks
[01:12] <Nightrose> ScottK: apps don't quit properly
[01:12] <Nightrose> that should be fixed before
[01:12] <vorian> eek
[01:12] <Nightrose> konqueror, kate, kopete at least
[01:12] <Nightrose> others probably as well
[01:13] <ScottK> Is that a QT issue?
[01:13] <Nightrose> no idea
[01:13] <Nightrose> worked in RC 1
[01:14] <ScottK> If it's a kdelibs problem, updating a single package once we have a solution is not an issue.
[01:14] <Nightrose> but right now i have to kill kate every time i closed it and want to open a new one
[01:14] <Nightrose> that is a PITA :(
[01:14] <ScottK> I can imagine.
[01:15] <Nightrose> there is a bug report on launchpad about it
[01:15] <Nightrose> maybe there is more info there
[01:15] <Nightrose> sec
[01:15] <ScottK> Same thing in Debian, BTW (time is -0400): [07:59] <wdgt> hey, seems like there's a serious issue in 4.1 : when closing apps, their process continue to run. I just tested it with kopete and kate. Anyone already noticed it ?
[01:15] <Nightrose> *nod*
[01:15] <Nightrose> right
[01:16] <Nightrose> that is it
[01:16] <Nightrose> tell him konqueror as well ;-)
[01:16] <ScottK> That was about 12 hours ago, so I doubt he's still around.
[01:16] <ScottK> Actually he is.
[01:16] <Nightrose> ScottK: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/253659
[01:17]  * ScottK looks.
[01:17] <Nightrose> ScottK: see apachelogger's comment on http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167522 for a list of affected apps
[01:18] <ScottK> OK.
[01:19] <Nightrose> anyway
[01:19] <Nightrose> I am tired
[01:19] <Nightrose> good night :)
[01:19]  * seele waves
[01:19] <Jucato> nini Nightrose
[01:20] <ScottK> Good night.
[03:07] <vorian> JontheEchidna: are you using your flicker plasmoid right now?
[03:08] <JontheEchidna> not at the mometn
[03:08] <JontheEchidna> *moment
[03:08] <vorian> I hope the current photo is not default
[03:08] <JontheEchidna> it randomly selects photos marked as "interesting" off of flickr
[03:08] <JontheEchidna> re-updates every two minutes
[03:09] <vorian> eek!
[03:09] <vorian> a headless dude
[03:09] <vorian> this is one weird thing you packaged
[03:09] <JontheEchidna> lol
[03:09] <JontheEchidna> nightrose made me :P
[03:09]  * JontheEchidna is joking
[03:09] <vorian> only one snag, line 4 in your copyright
[03:09] <seele> hehe
[03:09] <vorian> :)
[03:10]  * JontheEchidna checks
[03:10] <JontheEchidna> oh, right
[03:10] <vorian> :)
[03:11] <vorian> other than that, looks perfect
[03:11] <JontheEchidna> coolness
[03:12] <vorian> right-o, good work !
[03:14]  * JontheEchidna reupps to revu
[03:14] <JontheEchidna> and good night
[03:14] <vorian> nn
[03:14] <Jucato> no folder view on the desktop/dashboard by default in intrepid, bug or by design ?
[03:15] <Jucato> night night JontheEchidna
[03:15]  * Jucato thinks of BreezytheBadger now :)
[03:15] <JontheEchidna> Jucato: bug
[03:15] <JontheEchidna> it worked with stock alpha 3 though
[03:15]  * JontheEchidna is away for reals now
[03:15] <Jucato> heh ok. I kept on deleting ~/.kde just to make sure
[03:15] <Jucato> thanks
[03:32] <Jucato> wow I'm impressed... suspend and hibernate work on Intrepid :)
[03:39] <jdong> Jucato: lol I've had suspend and hibernate surprise me enough recently that I'm no longer surprised
[03:39] <jdong> hardy, out of the box, Via AMD64 box with nvidia card, compiz running
[03:39] <Jucato> hahah touché
[06:18] <techno_freak> hi, python-kde4 package conflicts with python-kde4-devel (in kubuntu-members-kde4 PPA) when trying to overwrite /usr/bin/pykdepuic4
[06:19] <techno_freak> bug #253858
[09:25] <jussi01> apachelogger: the red is a bit too red...
[10:11] <hunger> Any idea why signing mail with gpg fails with kmail in intrepid? Is that due to the gpg update we had recently?
[10:12] <Jucato> hunger: upstream problem afaik
[10:12] <Jucato> hunger: hold on, someone blogged about it in planetkde
[10:13] <Jucato> hunger: http://randomguy3.wordpress.com/2008/07/24/kmail-trunk-signing/
[11:39] <Riddell> apachelogger: how do I load a colour scheme in konsole?
[11:40] <Riddell> Appearance tab only has New.. and Edit..
[11:41] <Riddell> hmm, looks faded
[11:41]  * Riddell had to start a new Konsole
[11:58] <mornfall> Hm, no alpha5 packages? :( It could seriously use some testing...
[12:03] <flaccid> is there a www team?
[12:05] <mornfall> Riddell: Could you please request that apt-xapian-index sync? I'll bite the bullet and upload to PPA.
[12:05] <mornfall> The rest, that is.
[12:06] <DRebellion> vorian, how's monkeystudio looking?
[12:10] <Nightrose> flaccid: what do you need?
[12:13] <flaccid> is there a web team or something. the documentation link doesn't work on wiki
[12:16] <mornfall> Let's see if they build without change.
[12:19] <Riddell> hmm, apt-xapian-index isn't in sync
[12:19] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: get yourself a bitter display :P
[12:19] <Riddell> "add package description summary" doesn't sound too important
[12:19] <apachelogger> jussi01: that is the get-used-to-it I was writing about ;-)
[12:20] <apachelogger> good morning to everyone else
[12:20] <mornfall> Riddell: Hmm?
[12:20] <Riddell> mornfall: apt-xapian-index synced
[12:20] <mornfall> Riddell: Thanks.
[12:21] <jussi01> apachelogger: hrm, its still too red... all the othe colors are slightly pastelized, but the red... and dont I get a good morning? :/
[12:21] <apachelogger> jussi01: good afternoon :P
[12:22] <mornfall> Oh. I consistently mis-spell intrepid. Bwah. : - )
[12:22] <jussi01> apachelogger: :D
[12:22] <apachelogger> jussi01: http://files.ruphy.org/oxy-konsole1.png
[12:22] <Nightrose> flaccid: it is a wiki - you should be able to change it
[12:23] <Riddell> Nightrose: it's the headers
[12:23] <Nightrose> ah
[12:23] <apachelogger> jussi01: if the red does look too strong in context ýou should check your display
[12:27] <jussi01> apachelogger: http://imagebin.ca/view/HELgo7N.html
[12:28] <jussi01> just a touch softer IMHO
[12:31] <apachelogger> well
[12:31] <apachelogger> for cmake it appears so strong because the font is bold :P
[12:40] <mornfall> Riddell: About that planet subscription... Should I poke clee instead?
[12:40] <mornfall> Riddell: [http://web.mornfall.net/planet/kde.rss]
[12:40] <mornfall> Riddell: name = Petr Rockai
[12:40] <mornfall> Or make that name = Petr Rockai (mornfall)
[12:46] <Riddell> mornfall: pushed, should appear in half an hour or so
[12:47] <mornfall> Riddell: Danke schön.
[12:48] <mcas> apachelogger: ping
[12:48] <apachelogger> mcas: pong
[12:49] <mcas> i have a bug at launchpad that could be related to the kate "close with X" problem
[12:49] <mcas> lp 253913
[12:49] <mcas> sorry lp 253912
[12:50] <apachelogger> hm
[12:50] <apachelogger> it is
[12:50] <apachelogger> we use --use to reuse existing Kate session
[12:50] <apachelogger> now there is an existing session - it is just technically quit ;-)
[12:50] <mcas> ok can i mark it as duplicate?
[12:50] <apachelogger> yes
[12:50] <apachelogger> mcas: please also add a comment to the other bug
[12:51] <mcas> should i subscribe you at this bug
[12:52] <apachelogger> mcas: I am most likely already ;-)
[12:52] <techno_freak> just to let you guys know if you missed my last message - bug #253858
[12:52] <mcas> ok ;-)
[12:55] <apachelogger> hm
[12:55] <apachelogger> something is wrong here
[12:56] <vorian> morning
[12:56] <mornfall> Hm, PPAs are unusually quick these days.
[12:57] <apachelogger> techno_freak: unlikely issue
[12:58] <techno_freak> apachelogger, will check it once again now :)
[12:59] <Xand3r> hey ho!
[12:59] <mcas> apachelogger: i add a comment and hope it is correct ;-)
[13:00] <apachelogger> Riddell: bug 251053 is fixed isn't it?
[13:00] <Xand3r> apachelogger: rubberband: why i have to add a install file? i have the install commands in the rules
[13:01] <apachelogger> Xand3r: man dh_install
[13:01] <vorian> or kdeedu ...
[13:01] <apachelogger> how is make install gonna know which file belongs to which package?
[13:01] <apachelogger> magic?
[13:01] <apachelogger> guessing?
[13:01] <apachelogger> or maybe you should define that? :P
[13:01] <vorian> yes, magic
[13:01] <Riddell> apachelogger: should be yes
[13:01] <Xand3r> apachelogger: have you watched my rule file?
[13:01] <apachelogger> Xand3r: no
[13:02] <apachelogger> thing is
[13:02] <Xand3r> apachelogger: lol
[13:02] <apachelogger> the debs are empty
[13:02] <Xand3r> not for me
[13:02] <apachelogger> ha
[13:02] <apachelogger> you want proof
[13:02] <apachelogger> no problem
[13:03] <apachelogger> Xand3r: http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/
[13:03] <Xand3r> -rwxr-xr-x root/root    167072 2008-07-31 21:38 ./usr/bin/rubberband
[13:03] <apachelogger> a klingon warship would fit in these packages, so empty are they :P
[13:04] <emunkki> lol
[13:04] <Xand3r> there is the bin
[13:04] <apachelogger> hm
[13:04] <apachelogger> one bin
[13:04] <apachelogger> 3
[13:04] <apachelogger> packages
[13:04] <vorian> YODA!
[13:04] <apachelogger> that can't be good :P
[13:04] <Xand3r> apachelogger: you know the others are libs
[13:05] <Xand3r> gnnaaa why is your lib empty
[13:05] <apachelogger> so they are supposed to be empty because they are libs? Oo
[13:05] <smarter> howdy ho
[13:05] <Xand3r> apachelogger: no
[13:05] <emunkki> apachelogger, if he doesn't have any books?
[13:05] <apachelogger> ahoy smarter
[13:06] <Riddell> Xand3r: "$(CURDIR)/debian/librubberband0/usr/lib/ladspa/ladspa-rubberband.so"  0 should be 2
[13:06] <smarter> afternoon apachelogger
[13:06] <Riddell> Xand3r: but doesn't it have a normal  "make install" target you can use?
[13:06] <Xand3r> apachelogger: why the lib* package is empty hell
[13:06] <Xand3r> Riddell: no
[13:06] <Xand3r> Riddell:
[13:06] <apachelogger> emunkki: good point
[13:06] <Xand3r> its realy strange that source
[13:07]  * apachelogger can't aggree on that
[13:07] <Xand3r> back at work
[13:07] <apachelogger> but I also didn't look into the source now :P
[13:07] <Xand3r> apachelogger: thanks for review
[13:07] <Riddell> Xand3r: running debuild I get files in debian/tmp/
[13:07] <Xand3r> and thanks to the guy wich uploaded digikam
[13:07]  * Tm_T hugs emunkki
[13:07] <Riddell> Xand3r: so just add <pacakgename>.install files which list which files you want
[13:08]  * emunkki hugs Tm_T 
[13:08] <Xand3r> Riddell: i did that thousend times before
[13:08] <Xand3r> dh_install could not find the files
[13:08] <Tm_T> emunkki: haven't seen you for awhile
[13:09] <emunkki> Tm_T, sure, haven't been hanging around #amarok lately
[13:09] <emunkki> Tm_T, been busy with commercial clients
[13:09] <Tm_T> emunkki: understandable
[13:10] <Riddell> cat debian/rubberband.install
[13:10] <Riddell> debian/tmp/usr/bin/rubberband
[13:10] <Riddell> Xand3r: works for me
[13:10] <Xand3r> Riddell: that i have tested and it didnt work
[13:10] <Xand3r> i will test it again, thx
[13:10] <Xand3r> realy strange the world
[13:10] <emunkki> Tm_T, you might've seen the mockup i did for kubuntu-web?
[13:11] <Tm_T> emunkki: not yet, where's that?
[13:12] <vorian> kdegraphics is broken
[13:12] <emunkki> Tm_T, http://emonk.fi/work/kubuntu/ there's a few actually
[13:12] <Tm_T> check
[13:25] <apachelogger> Riddell: if we want a good amarok 2 (not taking into account whether thi is stabel before intrepid ;-) we should get libmtp 0.3.0 from debian
[13:26] <Rioting_pacifist> i want to recompile my clock applet with a patch, where do i find the sources in the repos? kdebase-dev is all i can see
[13:27] <JontheEchidna> kdebase-workspace has plasma stuff
[13:28] <Rioting_pacifist> im still on kde3
[13:28] <JontheEchidna> so do you need the plasma headers?
[13:28] <JontheEchidna> or are you trying to get the source code of the plasmoids?
[13:30] <Riddell> apachelogger: hmm, that needs a small bit of merging as I remember
[13:30] <DRebellion> Any MOTUs here that could take a look at monkeystudio? It is a Qt IDE: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=monkeystudio
[13:30]  * apachelogger shudders
[13:31]  * apachelogger queries vorian about status information of is monkeystudio review
[13:31] <Rioting_pacifist> erm i dont know much about kde but im looking to patch "kicker/applets/clock" in kdebase-3.5.*
[13:31] <apachelogger> Rioting_pacifist: apt-get source kdebase
[13:31] <DRebellion> apachelogger, what timezone is vorian in?
[13:32] <Riddell> something US
[13:33] <apachelogger> we should all try to live according to UTC :P
[13:33] <vorian> DRebellion: Eastern US
[13:33] <DRebellion> vorian, hey :D
[13:33] <vorian> hello :)
[13:33] <apachelogger> hm
[13:33] <emunkki> apachelogger, wonderful idea
[13:33] <Xand3r> i want to die, why now it works? i feel like e realy noob
[13:33] <apachelogger> that would be a kickass quassel feature - detecting the timezone based on the times a nick is active :D
[13:34] <jpds> apachelogger: /ctcp <nick> time.
[13:34] <apachelogger> uh
[13:34] <apachelogger> ctcp
[13:34] <jpds> I don't recommend actually doing that tho..
[13:34] <emunkki> haha.
[13:34] <apachelogger> it may burn
[13:34] <apachelogger> burn baby burn
[13:34] <DRebellion> that failed
[13:35] <apachelogger> Xand3r: we all know that feeling, I guess ... well, except for Riddell, his creator did a pretty good job to begin with ;-)
[13:35] <emunkki> o.O
[13:35] <DRebellion> vorian, so, how's monkeystudio?
[13:35] <vorian> good good
[13:36] <vorian> i'm just doing another once over
[13:36] <DRebellion> :)
[13:36] <DRebellion> finally some good news
[13:36]  * apachelogger notes that he hopes to finish catching up with his mails today
[13:36] <apachelogger> then he can look at monekystudio again
[13:36] <apachelogger> or I in that case
[13:36] <emunkki> apachelogger, want a few more?
[13:36] <apachelogger> emunkki: no
[13:37]  * apachelogger has to read strange bug report mails
[13:37] <apachelogger> kmail should drop out bugs which are closed
[13:37] <Rioting_pacifist> thx does apt-get source kdebase get it with all the ubuntu patches
[13:37] <DRebellion> =( kubuntu-kde4-desktop made all my qt based apps look rubbish in gnome
[13:38] <DRebellion> even after removal
[13:38] <DRebellion> Rioting_pacifist, yes
[13:38] <apachelogger> DRebellion: well, it made it look gtk :P
[13:39] <DRebellion> grr
[13:39]  * DRebellion spent the whole morning going through the kubuntu-kde4-desktop dependencies one by one and purging the hell out of them
[13:39]  * smarter guess gtk-qt-engine-kde4
[13:39] <apachelogger> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-kde4-desktop && sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[13:39] <apachelogger> :P
[13:40] <Xand3r> ldconfig-symlink-missing-for-shlib usr/lib/librubberband.so.2 usr/lib/librubberband.so.2.0.0 librubberband.so.2 ; that means i have to install a smylink from usr/lib/librubberband.so.2.0.0 to librubberband.so.2 ; apachelogger is that right?
[13:40] <DRebellion> apachelogger, that was an epic fail, remember?
[13:40] <apachelogger> smarter: that doesn't effect Qt based apps
[13:40] <apachelogger> DRebellion: no
[13:40] <DRebellion> smarter, i will take a look
[13:40] <apachelogger> Xand3r: pretty much
[13:40] <apachelogger> Xand3r: although actually make install should do that
[13:40] <smarter> DRebellion: try changing the theme with qtconfig-qt4 (apt-get install qt4-qtconfig)
[13:40] <apachelogger> please check whether you not just missed to install the file before you start creating symlinks yourself
[13:41] <DRebellion> smarter, which way round? 0o
[13:41] <smarter> DRebellion: qt4-qtconfig = package, qtconfig-qt4 = command to type
[13:41] <smarter> (thanks to the Debian packagers for that :P)
[13:41] <DRebellion> oh dear
[13:41] <DRebellion> hehe
[13:43] <DRebellion> smarter, it's fixed!
[13:43] <DRebellion> thanks :D
[13:43] <Xand3r> apachelogger:  thats the make install http://paste.ubuntu.com/32968/ am i to blind to see it?
[13:44] <apachelogger> test -n ".2.0.0" && ln -s librubberband.so.2.0.0 /tmp/buildd/rubberband-1.2/debian/tmp//usr/lib/librubberband.so
[13:44]  * apachelogger finds that quite strange
[13:45] <apachelogger> or
[13:45]  * apachelogger needs a coffee before thinking about shared libs
[13:46] <Xand3r> apachelogger: i have no clue what it does, never saw the test command before, you are the master, how else could know it?
[13:46] <apachelogger> ls debian/tmp/usr/lib
[13:49] <Xand3r> apachelogger: i am using pbuilder sorry
[13:49] <apachelogger> Riddell: please comment on bug 203349
[13:50]  * apachelogger is getting annoying
[13:50] <apachelogger> Xand3r: use a hooker
[13:50] <apachelogger> or manual build in pbuilder
[13:50] <vorian> O.o
[13:50] <apachelogger> or don't use pbuilder for .installs
[13:50] <apachelogger> vorian: not that kind of hooker :P
[13:50] <Xand3r> apachelogger: i use a hook
[13:50] <emunkki> "this is a family channel"
[13:50] <vorian> :)
[13:52] <Riddell> DRebellion: monkeystudio works for me, advocated
[13:53] <vorian> DRebellion: likewise, uploading :)
[13:59] <apachelogger> Nightrose: when is froscon?
[14:00] <Nightrose> apachelogger: 23/24
[14:00]  * apachelogger should probably get a flight ;-)
[14:00] <emunkki> apachelogger, you can walk
[14:00] <apachelogger> then I will have to start tomorrow
[14:00] <emunkki> sounds good
[14:06] <mornfall> Pretty please, can someone test that adept from:
[14:06] <mornfall> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mornfall/ubuntu intrepid main
[14:06] <mornfall> installs and runs?
[14:06] <vorian> sure :)
[14:07] <JontheEchidna> The stuff in the accessibility folder of kubuntu-default-settings isn't very up-to-date, is it?
[14:08]  * JontheEchidna doesn't even know if it's being used
[14:08] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: no, keep the files there but don't install them for now, it needs re-done for KDE 4
[14:08] <Riddell> it was used in KDE 3, you could boot up into various profiles
[14:08] <JontheEchidna> ok
[14:09] <JontheEchidna> Well if you'd like to see my work so far, I pushed 2 commits worth
[14:10] <mornfall> vorian: Please also read the text at https://launchpad.net/~mornfall/+archive -- it might help you testing ; - )
[14:10] <vorian> ta :)
[14:15] <Riddell> mornfall: sweet, works
[14:15] <Riddell> installer window seems to be larger than my screen
[14:16] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: what is the preferred bug for th systray painting issue?
[14:17] <Riddell> mornfall: crash on close http://paste.ubuntu.com/32974/
[14:17] <davmor2> Riddell: ping
[14:17] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: in LP?
[14:17] <apachelogger> aye
[14:17] <Riddell> hi davmor2
[14:18] <JontheEchidna> hmm
[14:19] <davmor2> Riddell: I'm doing a bunch of smoke tests https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/DailySmoke  todays Kubuntu live cd is missing the desktop widget so to start the install you need to go through dolphin, into desktop, then start.
[14:19] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: I'm thinking 247393
[14:19] <JontheEchidna> bug 247393
[14:19] <apachelogger> thx
[14:20] <Riddell> davmor2: I believe the package just needs a rebuild, which I'll do shortly, so that should fix itself by tomorrow
[14:21] <jussi01> JontheEchidna: I have an idea for you - wrt plasmoids - if it hasnt been come up with yet - want to hear?
[14:21] <davmor2> cool I thought it might be something like that just checking that you knew.  So when I test on monday it should be fixed right?
[14:21] <Riddell> davmor2: yes should be
[14:21] <Xand3r> apachelogger: now rubberband is fine i think maybe you could review it again
[14:21] <JontheEchidna> jussi01: sure
[14:22] <apachelogger> Xand3r: doing bug triage right now
[14:22] <Xand3r> apachelogger: ok
[14:22] <jussi01> JontheEchidna: Id love to see a konsole plasmoid - an actual embedded konsole, not just a launcher
[14:22] <JontheEchidna> go apachelogger
[14:22] <JontheEchidna> jussi01: that would be cool
[14:22] <apachelogger> 211 reports more :S
[14:23] <jussi01> JontheEchidna: oh, and if someone wants to adapt the twitter plasmoid to take jaiku, that would be wonderful
[14:24] <JontheEchidna> Heh, you ever seen those long guides for setting your terminal as the background in Gnome?
[14:24] <JontheEchidna> you like, have to install obscure software
[14:24] <JontheEchidna> and modify half of a config file to do it
[14:24] <JontheEchidna> a konsole plasmoid would make it tons easier to do
[14:25] <JontheEchidna> if a konsole plasmoid were to magically fall out of the sky right now all you would have to do would be:
[14:25] <JontheEchidna> -install the plasmoid
[14:25] <JontheEchidna> -Change a single line of plasma-appletsrc
[14:26] <JontheEchidna> that shows the power of Plasma
[14:26] <jussi01> cool!
[14:27] <JontheEchidna> well the plasmoid would have to have support for being a containment
[14:27] <JontheEchidna> bug that's only 3 or 4 more lines of code in the actual plasmoid
[14:27] <JontheEchidna> *but
[14:27] <JontheEchidna> if only there were (working) python bindings for plasma :(
[14:28] <JontheEchidna> btw, if we make our own plasmoids in the future, I'd discourage C++ where possible
[14:28] <jussi01> hrm, is there a rss plasmoid yet?
[14:28] <JontheEchidna> jussi01: there's one in playground that works well
[14:28] <JontheEchidna> and ironically
[14:28] <JontheEchidna> one in kdenetwork that looks like crap
[14:28] <JontheEchidna> \o/
[14:29] <jussi01> ok, Im off to get my wife - back later.
[14:34] <mornfall> Riddell: Indeed, I have that crash on TODO -- I discovered it only somewhere around where I have tagged the alpha.
[14:35] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: bug 175904 - there is no 4.1 for gutsy!
[14:35] <DRebellion> Riddell, vorian, apachelogger, yay :D
[14:35] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/175904/comments/48
[14:35] <DRebellion> apachelogger, this is even bigger than posterazor!
[14:37] <mornfall> (The Xapian rebuild is teh slow. Hmh.)
[14:37] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: d'oh
[14:38] <JontheEchidna> I guess I'll reclose that then
[14:38] <JontheEchidna> for kwin
[14:39] <mornfall> Riddell: As for the installer window, it fits into a quadrant (1/4th) of my 1024x768 laptop screen? Not very well, but on 800x600 it should work fine? I'd hope...
[14:41] <apachelogger> Xand3r: why did you unassign from kdpkg?
[14:41] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: would say so
[14:41] <Xand3r> apachelogger: hmm, i was angry about it
[14:41] <Xand3r> i sign it again^^
[14:41] <apachelogger> dood
[14:41] <apachelogger> don't unassign from packages randomly
[14:41] <apachelogger> that is confusing
[14:41] <apachelogger> and it floods peoples inbox
[14:42] <Xand3r> apachelogger: kk
[14:43] <mornfall> I'm off to train. See you in the evening, hopefully.
[14:50] <Riddell> mornfall: tried installer again and didn't have any sizing issues
[15:00] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: what do you think about bug 245557?
[15:02] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: won't fix I think
[15:02] <JontheEchidna> upstream said as much
[15:02] <apachelogger> that would be quite some difference in behavior for kubuntu so we are definitely not going to fix it
[15:02] <apachelogger> which leaves it up to upstream to address that wish
[15:06] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: want to try fixing bug 253878 ?
[15:06] <apachelogger> probably some issue in the init file
[15:06] <apachelogger> having the wrong log file configured or something
[15:06] <JontheEchidna> I could at least take a look
[15:06] <JontheEchidna> and try
[15:06] <apachelogger> oh
[15:06] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: also bug 248891
[15:07] <Riddell> mornfall: search doesn't seem to work in installer and the entries don't seem to be sorted alphabetically, makes it hard to find stuff :)
[15:07] <apachelogger> I think the paths changed
[15:07]  * JontheEchidna puts on "to look at" list
[15:07]  * apachelogger goes showering because it is so hot
[15:08]  * JontheEchidna goes off to exercise the dog
[15:10] <vorian> Xand3r: there is a new upstream for digikam
[15:12] <Xand3r> head meet desk
[15:12] <jpds> apachelogger: Showers don't help against the heat :(
[15:17] <Riddell> Xand3r: packaging can be like painting the Forth bridge :)
[15:20] <Xand3r> if i am at the end i can start again
[15:20] <vorian> Xand3r: use uupdate
[15:20] <Xand3r> vorian: no watchfile left^^
[15:20] <Xand3r> yea
[15:20] <vorian> you can still do that with the source package
[15:21] <vorian> make a file called digikam
[15:21] <vorian> cd digikam
[15:21] <Xand3r> vorian: i will do it like i do^^ but thx
[15:21] <vorian> alrighty, what ever floats yer boat :)
[15:23] <Xand3r> yea^^
[15:30] <apachelogger> jpds: cold showers cool down the blood stream causing short-term improvement, warm showers open pores (including sweat pores) and therefore support the built-in cooling system ;-)
[15:30] <apachelogger> in addition to that you aren't sweaty after a shower :P
[15:32] <Xand3r> now testbuilding digikam-kde4 beta2
[15:33] <jpds> apachelogger: This place is just too hot then.
[15:33] <Xand3r> befor an 23minutes long update before
[15:33] <apachelogger> jpds: probably :)
[15:34] <Xand3r> outdor temp maybe 20-25°C in my room 30°C, cause is my pc
[15:35] <JontheEchidna> my room is about at room temperature
[15:35] <vorian> haha
[15:36]  * JontheEchidna is celcius noob
[15:37]  * GreySim always uses Google for that. "75F in C" and whatnot.
[15:38] <JontheEchidna> this room is 22.22222222222 degrees C
[15:42] <Xand3r> we have to ad a UTC timezone for the clovk apllet
[15:42] <Xand3r> *clock
[15:42] <Xand3r> *applet
[15:43] <\sh> Xand3r: which clock applet?
[15:43] <JontheEchidna> the clock applet's timezone feature sucks
[15:43] <JontheEchidna> bigtime
[15:43] <JontheEchidna> it's a list of like a hundered cities
[15:44] <JontheEchidna> so you have to find a city in teh timezone you want
[15:44] <Xand3r> and not the time zone^^
[15:44] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[15:44] <Xand3r> stupid
[15:45] <Xand3r> so were  does the list comes from and how to change it
[15:45] <GreySim> I don't know if this is helpful at all, but GNOME's clock applet as of at least 2.22 had a really good selection mechanism. I was able to just type "Ellensburg" (a very small college town in eastern Washington) and it was in there.
[15:45] <GreySim> Maybe they have a good list.
[15:45] <\sh> well, the clock applet just works the same as my nokia clock applet ,-)
[15:45] <JontheEchidna> GreySim: the thing is, you can't type
[15:46] <\sh> there is no timezone in general, but the country or at least one or two cities of one country
[15:46] <JontheEchidna> you have a monolithic, non-sortable list
[15:46] <GreySim> JontheEchidna: Right, but it was in the list. Unless it was fetching results online.
[15:46] <Xand3r> GreySim: but if you know the time zone you are in, why shuld you dont select irt directly?
[15:46] <JontheEchidna> Xand3r: it comes from the date and times section is systemsettings
[15:46] <Xand3r> aha
[15:47] <JontheEchidna> well at least it's using the same widget
[15:47] <GreySim> Xand3r: Good point. I guess that would be a good default, with an option to search by city or something, but not as the default list...
[15:47] <\sh> Xand3r: the fun part is, that you can add more then one applet and eventually you want to have the time of london  or south africa
[15:47] <\sh> Xand3r: additionally to your local timezone (which is the default)
[15:48] <\sh> and my timezone is always UTC ,->
[15:49] <Xand3r> \sh: and? i mean the list is stupid only list cities, there should be a option to choos the time zone directly
[15:49] <Xand3r> and in the applet the name is UTC+2 or so
[15:50] <\sh> Xand3r: what is the timezone of auckland, nz? without looking?
[15:50] <\sh> Xand3r: the only case we have to change is the list widget, to just be searchable.
[15:52] <Xand3r> \sh: and add fields with the timezone named so ucould choos it dircetly if you know it, cause not every city is in the list
[15:53] <Xand3r> or make it possible to add fields
[15:53] <\sh> Xand3r: imho all city names are also in /usr/share/zoneinfo/ ...so that's sensible...but yes, it needs to be searchable
[15:54] <\sh> yes..all the info in the listbox is matchable to /usr/share/zoneinfo/*
[15:54] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: bug 183289 if you are really bored
[15:55] <\sh> Xand3r: and when I switch to Europe/Berlin timezone, the applet just tells me, I'm belonging to berlin
[15:57] <Xand3r> yea
[15:57] <\sh> so the applet list just needs some UI critics of seele and after that some love of a dev :)
[15:59] <Xand3r> that would be good
[16:00] <\sh> Xand3r: you could do it...to make the list sortable and searchable is quite easy imho..sortable is just a method call away...and searchable, well, catching the keyevents and display somewhere an editline
[16:00] <Xand3r> \sh: i ?
[16:01] <Xand3r> \sh: how much time have you?
[16:01] <Xand3r> i am not a programmer
[16:01] <Xand3r> i never done something like this
[16:01] <Xand3r> i dont know where i could do this
[16:01] <Xand3r> \sh: take my hand and show me the magick
[16:02] <Xand3r> please
[16:02] <Xand3r> i always for got to be polite sorry
[16:03] <\sh> Xand3r: use the source, luke ;) catch the source of the applet (whatever package that is, or check svn)
[16:04] <\sh> Xand3r: check how the applet does the UI (via designer files, or inside the code...check for QTreeListWidget or whatever they use..)
[16:05] <\sh> Xand3r: most probaly they subsclassed the widget so check there..or they subclassed the widget list item ...depends...
[16:06] <\sh> Xand3r: check the qt docs on doc.trolltech.com and find the "isSortable(bool ...)" method for the tree widget and enable that..(or enable it in the designer if they are using ui files)
[16:06] <\sh> Xand3r: finally try and error :) learn :)
[16:06] <davmor2> Riddell: amarok-kde4 doesn't like 64 bit :)
[16:06] <Riddell> davmor2: oh?
[16:06] <\sh> davmor2: what? impossible
[16:07]  * \sh is switching to rhythmbox then ,-)
[16:08] <JontheEchidna> hmm, that thunderbird import to kmail went rather smoothly
[16:09] <davmor2> Errors were encountered while processing:
[16:09] <davmor2> /var/cache/apt/archives/amarok-kde4_1.86-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[16:09] <davmor2> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[16:09] <davmor2> Riddell: ^
[16:10] <davmor2> \sh: are you sure you wouldn't prefer banshee :P
[16:10] <Riddell> davmor2: what were the errors?
[16:13] <apachelogger> \sh: banshee > rhythmbox
[16:13]  * apachelogger dist-upgrades the laptop
[16:13] <davmor2> Riddell: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/amarok.png', which is also in package amarok-common
[16:16] <JontheEchidna> Currenly you have to copy ~/.kde4 to ~/.kde if you dist-upgrade, correct?
[16:20] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: if you want to keep the settings from ~/.kde4 you do
[16:21] <JontheEchidna> Hmm
[16:21] <JontheEchidna> I think I'll manually copy over what I want to keep
[16:21] <JontheEchidna> what's the command again?
[16:21] <apachelogger> Riddell: my apt-cache only has python-kde4-dev 4.0.98 ... but https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/i386/python-kde4-dev/4:4.1.0-0ubuntu1 :S
[16:21] <JontheEchidna> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -d?
[16:22] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: update-manager -d or something
[16:22] <JontheEchidna> ah
[16:22] <JontheEchidna> I got the -d right
[16:22] <Xand3r> \sh: thx
[16:23] <\sh> apachelogger: banshee != default == rhythmbox .. but I know you'll fix amarok-kde4 to run on x86_64 :)
[16:23] <apachelogger> \sh: you are underestimating me
[16:23] <\sh> JontheEchidna: no problems? I jsut tried to clean my trash with >80k mails . and kmail-kde4 always crashed :)
[16:24] <apachelogger> even though davmor2 didn't talk to me even though I made the package :P .... I actually already pushed the fix
[16:24] <apachelogger> Riddell just needs to upload the new amarok-kde4
[16:24] <vorian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/33016/ silly blueteeth
[16:24] <JontheEchidna> damn, that's a lot
[16:24] <JontheEchidna> jonathan@jonathan-desktop:~/Documents/sauce/plasmoid-flickr$ update-manager -d
[16:24] <JontheEchidna> Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries
[16:24] <JontheEchidna> ^halp
[16:24] <davmor2> apachelogger: :P back with bells on.  I always pick on Riddell and let him sort it from there :)
[16:25] <apachelogger> davmor2: that is a pretty bad idea
[16:25] <davmor2> apachelogger: Thanks though :)  I'm only trying to make things better :)
[16:25] <apachelogger> davmor2: Riddell is always busy
[16:25] <Riddell> apachelogger: I do?  where's the new amarok-kde4?
[16:25] <apachelogger> Riddell: bzr
[16:26] <JontheEchidna> I guess I'll have to do it the old fashioned way
[16:26] <apachelogger> Riddell: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/amarok/ubuntu-kde4
[16:26] <JontheEchidna> It seems update manager doesn't like Qt 4.4.0
[16:26] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: probably gtk-qt-engine bits
[16:27] <JontheEchidna> I'll just change hardy to intrepid in etc/sources.list
[16:27] <JontheEchidna> and hope everything goes smoothly
[16:27] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: we do have adept for kubuntu users
[16:28] <Riddell> adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel
[16:28] <smarter> JontheEchidna: if everything fails, try do-release-upgrade -d --mode=desktop
[16:29] <JontheEchidna> adept does dist-upgrades?
[16:29] <JontheEchidna> cool
[16:29] <JontheEchidna> ok
[16:35] <Xand3r> \sh: i think i have found the source :D
[16:35] <JontheEchidna> dan
[16:35] <JontheEchidna> *damn
[16:36] <JontheEchidna> one gig worth of updates
[16:37] <JontheEchidna> probably will take 3 hours
[16:37] <Xand3r> no ui files
[16:38] <JontheEchidna> eh, 2 hours
[16:39] <JontheEchidna> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Helion.pl+-+30%25+discount+offers?content=86153
[16:39] <JontheEchidna> ^lol
[16:39] <JontheEchidna> heh
[16:40] <JontheEchidna> I won't be packaging that one I don't thin
[16:40] <JontheEchidna> k
[16:40] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: why?
[16:40] <vorian> :(
[16:41] <JontheEchidna> I have a secret vendetta against Polish bookstores
[16:42] <vorian> yay!
[16:42] <vorian> mesa fix is on the way!
[16:42]  * vorian dances
[16:43] <vorian> JontheEchidna: you could recode that to amazon or some such discount site :)
[16:43] <vorian> that would be fun
[16:44] <apachelogger> Xand3r: *poke*
[16:44] <Xand3r> apachelogger: yea?
[16:45] <apachelogger> Xand3r: what is all that commented stuff in debian/rules?
[16:45] <apachelogger> and that ls debian/tmp
[16:45] <apachelogger> Description: shared library for rubberband
[16:45] <apachelogger>  This is the shared library for Rubber Band.
[16:45] <Xand3r> apachelogger: i dont removed it, dont know if i need it somehow somewhere sometime
[16:46] <apachelogger> that first sentence in the long description is repeating the synopsis, which is quite bad practise
[16:46] <apachelogger> Xand3r: then you just readd it I'd say :P
[16:46] <apachelogger> plus it is all replaced by the .installs anyway
[16:47] <Xand3r> ja
[16:47] <Xand3r> ja
[16:47] <Riddell> apachelogger: new libmtp and amarok uploaded
[16:47] <Riddell> qt 4.4.1 too
[16:47] <apachelogger> wooohooo
[16:47] <Xand3r> i hatedescriptions
[16:47]  * apachelogger hugs Riddell
[16:48] <vorian> Riddell: have you had a chance to look at bug 243301?
[16:48] <vorian> oops
[16:48] <vorian> bug 253301
[16:50] <apachelogger> Xand3r: W: Building this package modifies or generates files not in debian/.
[16:50] <apachelogger> --- rubberband-1.2.orig/config.log
[16:50] <apachelogger> --- rubberband-1.2.orig/Makefile
[16:50] <apachelogger> --- rubberband-1.2.orig/config.status
[16:52] <apachelogger> Xand3r: from the manpage:  You can listen to some examples, or read more about the rationale for and advantages of Rubber Band.
[16:52] <apachelogger> where? Oo
[16:53] <Xand3r> apachelogger: ?
[16:53] <apachelogger> Xand3r: ?
[16:53] <Xand3r> -.-
[16:54] <apachelogger> :P
[16:55] <apachelogger> Xand3r: in debian/copright please move the "On Debian systems, the complete text of the GNU General Public License" right underneath the GPL statement
[16:56] <Xand3r> kk
[16:57] <apachelogger> Xand3r: the .so files should go into -dev
[16:57] <apachelogger> only the .so.x and .so.x.x should be in the lib package
[16:57] <Xand3r> aah i thought about it, but i didnt done it
[16:59] <Riddell> vorian: kalzium loses all its plugins?
[16:59] <vorian> they don't exist, I checked the Debian version to be sure
[17:00] <yuriy> apachelogger: ugh, this looks awful with irssi!, sorry
[17:00] <Riddell> vorian: ok, I'll upload when I do my mass conversion to kde4.mk in a bit
[17:01] <vorian> Riddell: thanks
[17:01] <apachelogger> yuriy: Nightrose claimed it looks good :P
[17:02] <Nightrose> yuriy: it is perfect here - maybe depends on the theme you use
[17:02] <Nightrose> i use industrial here
[17:02]  * JontheEchidna darkened up the background color
[17:02] <vorian> apachelogger: it's nice for the shell, not for my irssi (secret theme)
[17:04] <yuriy> Nightrose: I use the default one
[17:04] <jpds> yuriy: You want an irssi theme?
[17:05] <yuriy> jpds: wouldn't hurt to try, though I think the default one is just fine
[17:05] <Nightrose> yuriy: try industrial
[17:05] <jpds> Ah, /me just walked in.
[17:05] <jpds> vorian: Oh, come on, blue isn't that secret.
[17:05] <Xand3r> \sh: there is no ui file and i have no clue about cpp and qt syntax
[17:05] <vorian> :/
[17:06] <vorian> jpds: now you have blown my cover, /me dies
[17:06] <jpds> That was easy.
[17:07] <txwikinger> Is kflash still used in intrepid ?
[17:07] <jpds> yuriy: I personally use blue.theme: http://ks33313.kimsufi.com/~jpds/configs/irssi/blue.theme
[17:07] <txwikinger> sorry, I mean Ksplash
[17:07] <yuriy> Nightrose: eek.
[17:08] <Riddell> txwikinger: ksplashx now
[17:08] <txwikinger> Riddell.. is that already available?
[17:09] <Nightrose> yuriy: *lol*
[17:09] <Nightrose> that bad?
[17:10] <Riddell> txwikinger: yes
[17:10] <Riddell> txwikinger: in kdebase-workspace-bin (kdebase-workspace source)
[17:12] <txwikinger> well.. I think then the dependency of ksplash-engine-moodin might be wrong
[17:12] <yuriy> I think I'll just stick with defacto, small improvement over the default, and still very readable.  all the other ones just make things less readable (even the one called "more_readable"!)
[17:14] <Riddell> txwikinger: what dependency?
[17:14] <Riddell> ksplash-engine-moodin should be removed
[17:14] <txwikinger> The one to ksplash
[17:14] <Riddell> txwikinger: file a bug for removal and subscribe ubuntu-archive
[17:14] <txwikinger> ok.. I will do that
[17:14] <Riddell> thanks txwikinger
[17:14] <txwikinger> and I will think what else I need for ichthux then :D
[17:15] <apachelogger> yuriy: what needs to be changed?
[17:16] <yuriy> apachelogger: the main thing that bothers me is the gray background. I think console background should always be black so every color has contrast. but I think that theme is just not for me
[17:22] <apachelogger> yuriy: ic
[17:25] <jpds> yuriy: Can you not change it so the nicks all have different colours?
[17:28] <jpds> ie: http://ks33313.kimsufi.com/~jpds/tmp/2008-08-01-172608_1280x1024_scrot.png
[17:30] <vorian> jpds: nice layout :)
[17:32] <yuriy> jpds: what does that have to do with anything? (though I do kind of miss that from konversation, but I've gotten used to actually reading instead of relying on the colors which tended to be decieving sometimes)
[17:32] <jpds> Errr.
[17:32] <jpds> yuriy: I think I misread: "every color has contrast".
[17:34] <Xand3r> apachelogger: please look querry
[17:42] <Xand3r> apachelogger: -->
[17:43] <vorian> yay for compositing!
[17:43] <vorian> welcome back
[17:44]  * JontheEchidna wonder if compositing with nvidia works
[17:45] <vorian> yes
[17:45] <vorian> or depends :)
[17:45] <vorian> on my desktop it does gf8600
[17:45] <nixternal> well, I decided against the iPhone and went with the Blueberry
[17:46] <vorian> blueberry's are nice
[17:46] <nixternal> ya, gotta figure out my ssh issue and not having support for some type of terminal...need to find it and install the support
[17:47] <vorian> nixternal: they just pushed thru a mesa fix so composite works again with intel
[17:47] <vorian> in intrepid
[17:48]  * JontheEchidna has GeForce 4 MX 440
[18:01] <Xand3r> apachelogger: please look in the querry again.
[18:02] <apachelogger> Xand3r: query, not querry
[18:02] <Xand3r> ok
[18:02] <Xand3r> thx
[18:03] <apachelogger> Riddell: do you archive admins actually have a script to spot binary files?
[18:07] <nixternal> vorian: you have a blueberry?
[18:10] <Xand3r> apachelogger: schau doch nochmal im query
[18:10] <apachelogger> Xand3r: warum queriest du überhaupt wegen dem µll?
[18:10] <Xand3r> weils mir soo peinlich ist
[18:11] <Xand3r> apachelogger: the question is, would it do the job?
[18:14] <JontheEchidna> :( 32 kB/s
[18:15] <jpds> apachelogger: man suspicious-source
[18:15] <apachelogger> Xand3r: the answer is find out
[18:15] <apachelogger> that differs from app to app
[18:16] <Xand3r> apachelogger: hmm thats mean from the upstream
[18:16] <apachelogger> jpds: I have no idea what you are talking about :P
[18:16] <apachelogger> Xand3r: welcome to autohell
[18:16] <Xand3r> ^
[18:16] <Xand3r> ^^
[18:17] <jpds> apachelogger: It's a script to look for files which shouldn't usually be in source tarballs.
[18:17] <jpds> apachelogger: 'tis in ubuntu-dev-tools.
[18:18] <JontheEchidna> oh crap
[18:18] <JontheEchidna> jonathan@jonathan-desktop:/tmp$ firefox
[18:18] <JontheEchidna> Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries
[18:19]  * JontheEchidna disables gtk-qt-engine
[18:21] <apachelogger> jpds: cool
[18:21] <apachelogger> though
[18:21] <apachelogger> the one I just created is much better :P
[18:21] <apachelogger> except for the shorter whitelist
[18:22] <jpds> Heh.
[18:22] <apachelogger> mine runs file on the file if the file doesn't match the whitelisted suffixes
[18:22] <apachelogger> then sorts out everything at is ASCII or shell scripts
[18:23] <apachelogger> s/at/that
[18:23] <Riddell> apachelogger: how do you mean spot binary files?
[18:24] <apachelogger> Riddell: well, exactly what suspicious-source does basically
[18:24] <apachelogger> exaclty + basically is rather strange though
[18:25] <Riddell> don't know what suspicious-source is
[18:26] <jpds> "apachelogger: man suspicious-source" :)
[18:26] <jpds> apachelogger: Adding file support would be cool tho.
[18:26] <Riddell> No manual entry for suspicious-source
[18:27] <jpds> Riddell: install ubuntu-dev-tools
[18:27]  * apachelogger didn't had ubuntu-dev-tools installed either :P
[18:27] <Xand3r> apachelogger: where did you get the information from, if the files are removed or not? lintian dont gifs me that information
[18:27] <jpds> apachelogger: Don't you use "requestsync" and co?
[18:28] <Riddell> ah, yes, we have those
[18:28] <apachelogger> Xand3r: you know, I got scritps for every thing :P
[18:28] <apachelogger> now even for finding pdfs without source
[18:29] <apachelogger> jpds: I use queryarchiveadmin :P
[18:29] <Xand3r> ? a script?
[18:29] <jpds> apachelogger: Ah.
[18:30] <apachelogger> Riddell: published somewhere?
[18:31] <Xand3r> apachelogger: i have a script for such a thing, nerver heard about it
[18:31] <Riddell> apachelogger: it's just an older version of suspicious-source
[18:31] <apachelogger> I see
[18:32] <apachelogger> Xand3r: pardon?
[18:32] <apachelogger> Xand3r: sometimes you sound like the insanity bot :P
[18:33] <Xand3r> apachelogger: maybe i am the bot but, dont tell anyone about it
[18:34]  * apachelogger diggs that secret in knotes
[18:34] <apachelogger> that doesn't make any sense either
[18:34] <apachelogger> ah
[18:34] <apachelogger> it's too hot
[18:34] <Xand3r> apachelogger: but tellme how i can check if the files are removed or not
[18:36] <nixternal> sure/wi6
[18:36] <nixternal> haha, nice
[18:37] <jpds> nixternal: fail. and http://paste.ubuntu.com/33049/
[18:38] <apachelogger> Xand3r: debuild  it
[18:38] <apachelogger> extract the orig tarball to foobar.orig
[18:38] <apachelogger> diff the orig source with the one after debuild
[18:39] <apachelogger> if it contains only files in /debian/ then everything works fine
[18:39] <Xand3r> hmm?
[18:40] <nixternal> don't throw me any pastebins
[18:41] <nixternal> jpds: ya, I have had that forever, but I am so used to doing /win tab 20
[18:41] <jpds> nixternal: I find typing two integers easier :)
[18:50] <mornfall> Riddell: Ah, hm, search does work, but it does exact substring matches only. I'll have to fix that...
[18:50] <Xand3r> sorry apachelogger now is party time, i will go now, i wish you and every one else a realy nice friday and sleep well, c ya
[18:50] <mornfall> Riddell: Case-sensitive, even.
[20:19] <Riddell> sigh, I uploaded the world and it all broke
[20:20] <smarter> Riddell: what broke?
[20:22] <DaSkreech> *
[20:23] <Riddell> smbclient for one http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16483125/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-amd64.kdebase-runtime_4%3A4.1.0-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[22:47] <SolarWar> hey folks, I'm looking for someone to advocate or comment my super awesome package of Qlix- a program that allows users to easily transfer music to MTP devices (like the zune) http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=qlix
[23:20] <Daskreech> SolarWar: What does it use?
[23:29] <SolarWar> Daskreech, it uses QT 4.3, taglib and libmtp
[23:32] <JontheEchidna> lol
[23:33] <JontheEchidna> during the middle of the upgrade Konqueror said that http was an unknown protocol
[23:33] <JontheEchidna> and shortly after it crashed
[23:35] <JontheEchidna> probably because of the path chagne
[23:36] <JontheEchidna> whoa
[23:36] <JontheEchidna> the icon changed for the device notifier
[23:36] <JontheEchidna> and the icon for kmenu disappeared
[23:36] <JontheEchidna> things are getting strange...
[23:37] <JontheEchidna> hopefully konsole doesn't bork
[23:38]  * JontheEchidna hopes people won't have this sort of problem soft-upgrading to intrepid
[23:45] <JontheEchidna> lol, device notifier icon totally gone
[23:48] <Daskreech> JontheEchidna: Did the same for me :)
[23:48] <JontheEchidna> maybe we could write a custom update tool that steals the screen so that people don't crap up their systems while upgrading?
[23:48] <Daskreech> JontheEchidna: Except it also told me that It couldn't see any website because the plugin for Google was now invalid
[23:48] <JontheEchidna> heh