[00:15] <Jazzva> asac, woohoo. nspluginwrapper should be built soon :)
[00:23] <Jazzva> hmm... on first tests it failed
[00:24] <Jazzva> asac, it still happens that npw popups from time to time, or crashes firefox...
[00:25] <Jazzva> well... it happened for the second time. first it doesn't show a flash object, then on reload it popups, and then crashes
[00:31] <Jazzva> reboot... system upgrade done...
[01:07] <Jazzva> asac, ping...
[01:07] <asac> Jazzva: yeah. sorry
[01:07] <asac> ;)
[01:08] <asac> now i am here for a while
[01:08] <Jazzva> asac, no problem :)
[01:08] <Jazzva> good... ;)
[01:08] <Jazzva> :)
[01:08] <Jazzva> I tested nspluginwrapper... it seems to behave just like 0.9.something (the previous one), but worse
[01:08] <Jazzva> I think I'll try with 1.0.0
[01:08] <asac> you tried 1.1.0?
[01:09] <Jazzva> yep
[01:09] <asac> i think that only works with flash 10
[01:09] <asac> did you use that?
[01:09] <Jazzva> that was the one I was testing now
[01:09] <Jazzva> I have flash 10... if it's in intrepid
[01:09] <Jazzva> 10.0.1.218+10.0.0.525ubuntu1
[01:09] <asac> right
[01:09] <asac> ok.
[01:09] <asac> maybe really a development version then
[01:10] <asac> Jazzva: what regressions do you see?
[01:10] <asac> (in 1.1.0 - worse?)
[01:10] <Jazzva> and firefox reports npwrapper.libflashplayer.so in about:plugins
[01:10] <Jazzva> yes... in 1.1.0 it's worse
[01:11] <Jazzva> It's not able to present flash at all... at least I didn't manage...
[01:11] <asac> sounds wierd
[01:11] <asac> anyway try 1.0 first then
[01:12] <Jazzva> cool
[01:29] <asac> Jazzva: did you hear anything about xionox today?
[01:29] <asac> i wonder if got completely stuck
[01:29] <Jazzva> can't remember... logs are available at irclogs.ubuntu.com :)
[01:31] <Jazzva> hmm... he said just one thing yesterday
[01:31] <Jazzva> [17:57] <XioNoX> hi asac, you get the power back ?
[01:31] <asac> ok
[01:31] <asac> i got that ;)
[01:32] <Jazzva> wow... we really are a silent channel. the log is so short
[01:32] <Jazzva> back to patches, and refreshing them
[01:32] <asac> well. our activity is not really less than what -desktop has for a bunch of days
[01:32] <asac> and they have far more users lurking ;)
[01:32] <Jazzva> asac, will you make it for the meeting on 3rd?
[01:32] <Jazzva> asac, hehe :)
[01:33] <asac> well. unless my float plane doesnt start or its a hoax i should make it
[01:33] <asac> i arrive on 2nd
[01:33] <Jazzva> ah... right, it's still 31st over there.
[01:33] <asac> yep
[01:34] <Jazzva> and it's still day... 15:33?
[01:34] <Jazzva> lucky you ;)
[01:34] <asac> the idea is to arrive on 5:33pm on sat 2nd aug in hamburg :(
[01:34] <asac> its 17:34
[01:35] <asac> just 9 hours
[01:35] <Jazzva> oh... i thought it's more.
[01:35] <asac> well 12 hours is hawaii ;)
[01:35] <asac> (where i probably would love to be right now)
[01:35] <Jazzva> in the middle of nowhere :P
[01:36] <asac> my current concern is that today dinner is on a hill
[01:36] <asac> we leave at 1830
[01:36] <asac> and i would like to be back at 2030 to do online checkin right when it opens
[01:36] <asac> to get emergency exit seat
[01:37] <asac> i think i can forget that idea
[01:37] <Jazzva> to be back at 2030 where?
[01:37] <asac> in hotel
[01:37] <Jazzva> ah.. online checkin :)
[01:37] <asac> somewhere where i have internet
[01:37] <Jazzva> and leave at 1830 to have dinner on a hill..
[01:37] <asac> i doubt there is wifi on the hill ... we go up with a gondola
[01:37] <asac> yeah ;)
[01:37] <asac> unlikely to get back in time
[01:37] <Jazzva> don't leave the hotel :P
[01:38] <asac> skip dinner ... hmm sounds geeky
[01:38] <asac> i need to socialise
[01:38] <asac> ;)
[01:38] <asac> thats one of the main reasons i am here
[01:38] <Jazzva> hmm... emergency exit seat. Great, now I'm scared of planes and their crashes again...
[01:38] <asac> get people drunk and make them listen to our needs ;)
[01:38] <Jazzva> that doesn't sound like socialisation... more like promotion :P
[01:39] <asac> Jazzva: hehe ... no i like the emergency exit seats on boeing 747 ... there is no seat nor a wall in front of you
[01:39] <asac> so leg-wise its like first-class :)
[01:39] <asac> i managed to get one on glith ere
[01:39] <Jazzva> ah... must remember that for september :). (though I'm not able to do online checkin... stupid company)
[01:40] <asac> Jazzva: where are you going then?
[01:40] <Jazzva> boston :)
[01:40] <asac> oh cool
[01:40] <asac> over heathrow?
[01:40] <Jazzva> after the exams... vacation :)
[01:40] <Jazzva> no... i think munich, or zurich...
[01:40] <asac> which airline?
[01:40] <Jazzva> lufthansa/jat airways/united airlines...
[01:41] <asac> doenst lufthansa have online checkin?
[01:41] <Jazzva> yep. but I'm unable to do it, because of jat airways... that's our national airline...
[01:42] <Jazzva> and it sucks big time
[01:42] <asac> Jazzva: too bad. you most likely will be seated in the middle of the middle in the back of the plane :(
[01:42] <asac> sorry for that
[01:42] <Jazzva> last time i got a seat by a window ;)
[01:42] <asac> but well ;) ... boston flight is just 6 hours
[01:42] <Jazzva> and middle of the middle... no way... anything but that :)
[01:43] <asac> which can be long enough to suffer
[01:43] <Jazzva> (especially if you consider I'm 195cm tall :))
[01:43] <Jazzva> (painful)
[01:43] <asac> when i went to thailand it happened to be like that. i arrived at airport. every seat was taken but middle of middle
[01:43] <asac> and next to me two fat ones ;)
[01:43] <Jazzva> ouch...
[01:43] <asac> so mostly in the middle of the seat in the middle of the middle :)
[01:44] <asac> and that was 9h ;)
[01:44] <Jazzva> painful... :)
[01:44] <asac> yeah ... especially since they turned off the light and television and told us to sleep right after dinner
[01:44] <asac> and i didnt have a clock
[01:44] <Jazzva> haha
[01:45] <Jazzva> really?
[01:45] <asac> so it was an endless trip
[01:45] <asac> yes really
[01:45] <asac> they didnt have per-seat TVs
[01:45] <asac> so no info displays in overnight flights
[01:45] <Jazzva> and they told you to go to sleep? oh, my...
[01:45] <asac> not even drinks were served for 4 hours or so
[01:45] <asac> Jazzva: well they said: good night. turned off the light
[01:46] <asac> and since we flew against the sund it was like 2 hours dark outside and the whenever you saw someone opening the window you saw that it was fucking daylight
[01:46] <asac> "sleep well" :)
[01:46] <Jazzva> airplanes are not nice. when will they invent useful teleportation :)?
[01:46] <asac> not sure
[01:47] <asac> i think you need to get rich to get an enjoyable flight
[01:47] <Jazzva> ...or your own airplane ;)
[01:47] <asac> i think that is subsumed by rich (even richer :))
[01:47] <asac> at least if you want a plane that can do long-distance flights ;)
[01:47] <Jazzva> :)
[01:48] <asac> in between you could charter your own plane
[01:49] <asac> which is probably only 5 times the price of first class
[01:49] <Jazzva> yeah... now just to make a plan to earn all that money ;)
[01:49] <asac> but given that first class is 10 times the price of coach class you end up having 50 times
[01:51] <Jazzva> hmm... get a credit from a bank and expect it will pay-off :)
[01:51] <asac> yeah. you could start your own "private" flight carrier
[01:51] <asac> ;)
[01:51] <asac> o credit
[01:52] <asac> and when you have enough customers you can probably take your own flight from time to time
[01:52] <Jazzva> :)
[01:53] <Jazzva> ok, running a test build of 1.0.0
[02:12] <Jazzva> yay... it works on first flash :)
[02:13] <asac> Jazzva: good crack ;)
[02:13] <asac> on x86?
[02:13] <asac> probably works on amd64 as well then
[02:13] <Jazzva> and on second flash... yay :)
[02:13] <Jazzva> x86...
[02:13] <asac> good ... if its based on the mt package, please push it there ;)
[02:14] <Jazzva> let's see what it does on youtube
[02:14] <Jazzva> it is...
[02:14] <asac> Jazzva: any patches you had to drop?
[02:14] <Jazzva> bah... it's not :)... but I will just branch, and apply the new modifications
[02:14] <asac> branch?
[02:14] <asac> we dont have a branch ;)
[02:14] <asac> we have PPA :-D
[02:14] <Jazzva> in patch 004_ the part that modifies npw-viewer.c was implemented upstream
[02:15] <Jazzva> right... ppa :)
[02:15] <asac> ok
[02:15] <asac> yeah. put it there
[02:15] <Jazzva> hmm... I have to check how to use PPA :)
[02:15] <Jazzva> I have never used it before...
[02:15] <asac> really?
[02:15] <Jazzva> yes
[02:15] <asac> i think its time then ;)
[02:15] <asac> you will figure
[02:15] <Jazzva> yep :)
[02:15] <asac> if oyu use a sane verison you cant do much harm ;)
[02:15] <asac> please base it on the current ppa package (but if you hvae x86 support it should work)
[02:16] <Jazzva> 1.0.0-0ubuntu1~mt1?
[02:16] <Jazzva> yay... youtube works :)
[02:16] <asac> yah
[02:16] <asac> thats fine version wise
[02:16] <asac> so just --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree?
[02:16] <asac> then it works?
[02:16] <asac> good
[02:16] <Jazzva> no... just dpkg -i deb_file
[02:17] <Jazzva> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89GB7z_Ogt0&feature=rec-fresh this song is great :). I'll test it a bit more before pushing ;)
[02:17] <asac> err ... if you dont reinstlal flashpluginnonfree it doesnt recreate the wrapper iirc
[02:17] <Jazzva> hmm... really?
[02:17] <asac> so you might still be using the old
[02:17] <asac> yeah
[02:17] <Jazzva> but, it failed when I was using 1.1.0
[02:17] <Jazzva> hmm... ok, I'll test with 1.1.0 again
[02:17] <asac> it definitly doesnt recreate the wrapper
[02:18] <asac> if you didnt that probably was the problem
[02:18] <asac> first test 1.0.0
[02:18] <asac> if that works push it
[02:18] <asac> then go for 1.1.0 ;)
[02:18] <Jazzva> ok
[02:18] <asac> or do whatever you prefer :=)
[02:19] <Jazzva> so, dpkg -i nspluginwrapper, --reinstall flashplugin?
[02:19] <asac> i have have to be down to yes
[02:19] <Jazzva> :)
[02:19] <asac> Jazzva: well. you can look in flashplugin postinst script
[02:19] <asac> and see what it calls to create the wrapper
[02:19] <asac> you can run that manually too
[02:19] <Jazzva> right...
[02:20] <asac> but --reinstlal should work
[02:20] <Jazzva> hmm... is it me, or is this flash snappier than before?
[02:20] <Jazzva> and less consuming, cpu-wise
[02:22] <crimsun> Flash 10 beta 2?  I've heard it described many ways.  "snappier" and "less consuming, cpu-wise" are not included.
[02:23] <asac> ok ... got to run to mountain dinner ... press thumbs that i get emergency seat when coming back ;)
[02:23] <asac> good night!
[02:23] <Jazzva> asac, have fun
[02:23] <asac> u2
[02:23] <Jazzva> crimsun, it's running faster in full-screen here...
[02:23] <asac> its about nspluginwrapper 1.0.0 :)
[02:23]  * asac out
[02:23] <Jazzva> ah :)
[03:26] <Jazzva> nspluginwrapper 1.1.0 is a development version. Not really usable for now
[03:46] <Jazzva> Both amd64 and i386 builds of nspluginwrapper 1.0.0 succeeded and are available in MT's PPA :)
[03:46] <Jazzva> off to sleep, see you later
[06:50] <asac> Jazzva: rock!
[07:03] <asac> too bad. no emergency exit
[07:03]  * asac going down to bar again
[09:21] <XioNoX> hi
[09:21] <XioNoX> asac, ping ?
[10:31] <asac> XioNoX: uh?
[10:32] <asac> please dont consider myself conscience right now :/
[10:32] <asac> going to fall to bed pretty soon
[10:32] <asac> @time vancouver
[10:32] <XioNoX> asac, okay, have you seen the screenshot ?
[10:33] <XioNoX> http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capture1vf1.png
[10:33]  * asac  looking
[10:33] <asac> looks good
[10:35] <XioNoX> next steep ?
[10:35] <asac> hmm
[10:35] <XioNoX> considering that i've spend the full afternoon yesterday to make the install button working without succes..
[10:35] <XioNoX> idem fot the big button
[10:36] <asac> what did you do to make the button working
[10:36] <asac> ?
[10:36] <asac> s/did you/did you try/
[10:37] <XioNoX> buttInstall.setAttribute("oncommand", "window._content.document.location.href='?XPILocation';");
[10:37] <XioNoX> this is the last tryout
[10:38] <asac> did you look th
[10:38] <XioNoX> the ?XPILocation looks like : apt:.......
[10:38] <asac> at the plugin finder service how it triggers installs?
[10:38] <asac> i think you shouldnt use href="..."
[10:39] <asac> instead implmenet a helper function like "installPlugin (URL)"
[10:39] <asac> which then detects the install methods
[10:39] <asac> if its apt:... run it using apturl
[10:39] <asac> otherwise use the normal .xpi mechanism
[10:40] <XioNoX> ok
[10:40] <XioNoX> but the installPlugin (URL)
[10:41] <XioNoX> should detect for exemple if the user have sudo acces ?
[10:41] <asac> for now leave that out
[10:41] <XioNoX> ok
[10:41] <asac> we have to implement a pluggable thing after thta
[10:41] <XioNoX> so i write a function "installPlugin(URL)
[10:42] <asac> for instance we should hide the results in case plugins cannot installed with sudo due to privileges
[10:42] <XioNoX> which detect the kind of file ?
[10:42] <asac> but ill think about  it during flight
[10:42] <asac> yep
[10:42] <asac> you inspect the URL
[10:42] <XioNoX> ok
[10:42] <XioNoX> i'll try to find how i can do that
[10:42] <asac> if its apt: ... run the current apt method ... otherwise the current XPIInstall
[10:42] <asac> i am sure youll figure
[10:43] <XioNoX>  XPIInstall come only from https ?
[10:43] <XioNoX> and how I use the apt method ?
[10:44] <asac> we already have code for that in ubufox
[10:44] <XioNoX> in my mind, we have just to call the url and firefox will automatically use the apt or normal method
[10:44] <XioNoX> ok
[10:44] <asac> in the end thats probably what we want to do
[10:44] <asac> but for now go the manual way
[10:45] <asac> we have to think about what to do in what way
[10:45] <asac> https:// might not always mean .xpi
[10:46] <XioNoX> ok
[10:46] <XioNoX> i'll try to finish this function before you wake up :D
[10:47] <asac> thanks ;)
[10:47] <asac> ill be travelling tomorrow though
[10:47] <asac> but i probably will be in for an hour or so before
[10:49] <XioNoX> you go back to the airport through the 8hours road ?
[10:49] <asac> nope ... i booked a float plane :)
[10:50] <asac> see http://www.westcoastair.com/
[10:50] <XioNoX> cool
[10:50] <asac> ;)
[10:50] <asac> well ... if that cannot start because of wheather then i am lost :/
[10:50] <asac> anyway ... off!
[10:50] <asac> cu tomorrow
[10:50] <asac> err ... today
[10:50] <XioNoX> cu
[10:52] <Jazzva> have a good flight asac
[10:52] <Jazzva> morning all :)
[10:56] <XioNoX> morning
[12:16] <godlygeek> so, on hardy, i'm getting constant crashes with ff3, flash9, libflashsupport, and pulseaudio...
[12:16] <godlygeek> i was hoping to fix that with an upgrade to flash 10, but that seems not to really work for me; i'm getting some weird graphic glitches...
[12:17] <godlygeek> namely, white pixels strewn seemingly ramdomly (and with random density) throughout the videos...
[12:17] <godlygeek> though, actually, the flash 10 demos seem to work perfectly for me, youtube videos don't at all.
[12:17] <godlygeek> anyone seen this, by any chance?
[12:50] <godlygeek> a link to a bug report someone filed about this very bug - http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-470
[12:50] <godlygeek> i'm guessing "Linux - Other" is a pretty good indication that they're running ubuntu as well.
[12:54] <Jazzva> godlygeek, or some other distro ;). Anyway, removing libflashsupport with Flash 9 solved crashes for me. True, Flash wouldn't play sound if some other program was using sound device (for example, Banshee)
[12:54] <Jazzva> s/with Flash 9/and using Flash9/
[12:55] <fta> Jazzva, there's no need to add those "Open tree for xxxx development" in debian/changelog, having those in bzr logs is enough
[12:56] <Jazzva> fta, ok. I thought we put them, and at the end remove that with commit "release bla to ubuntu/release"
[12:57] <Jazzva> fta, I'll stop adding them :)
[12:58] <fta> i usually don't even have such a commit in the branch, asac sometimes adds one.. imho, it's not needed, we already have a commit clearly identifying each RELEASE
[12:58] <godlygeek> hm.  still, i wish flash 10 would work...  any way that it could be our bug?  or is it most certainly a bug in their blob?
[12:58] <fta> Jazzva, so it's obvious the next one is the open for dev one
[12:59] <Jazzva> fta, and we have "RELEASE for real" in case something needs to be changed :)
[12:59] <Jazzva> godlygeek, not sure. Flash 10 works for me on intrepid, with nspluginwrapper.
[13:00] <fta> Jazzva, yep (even if i prefer to uncommit the RELEASE for last minute changes, while i know asac hates that)
[13:00] <godlygeek> is intrepid using the same FF3 version as hardy at present?
[13:01] <Jazzva> uncommit == overwrite current commit?
[13:01] <Jazzva> fta ^
[13:02] <fta> uncommit + revert + last minute changes + commit + RELEASE commit + push --overwrite
[13:02] <Jazzva> aha...
[13:02] <fta> just to keep a clean branch
[13:03] <Jazzva> godlygeek, as far as I can see, the versions should be same, at least in intrepid and hardy-updates
[13:03] <fta> Jazzva, overwrite should not matter unless someone else pulled the branch during this short window.. but we are a small group and we communicate so it should not matter much.
[13:04] <Jazzva> fta, I agree with that. But because of small window, I agree with asac too. Man in the middle :)
[13:04] <Jazzva> fta, take a look at https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0
[13:04] <Jazzva> changelog for 3.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1
[13:05] <Jazzva> see how asac has two human icons, and you one. Bug in Launchpad?
[13:05] <Jazzva> Hmm... that's not the only place in the changelogs.
[13:05] <Jazzva> woah... 3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu1
[13:06] <godlygeek> hm.  wonder if it's a change that needs to be backported from X, or some such...
[13:06] <godlygeek> with the same blob and same firefox, that'd be my first guess for where the difference could lie...
[13:07] <fta> Jazzva, lol, seems it's the number of times you appear in each entry
[13:07] <Jazzva> fta, right. It's confusing :)
[13:10] <fta> and it's from a patched dch.. asac patched it locally to add emails in the []
[13:11] <Jazzva> mhm
[13:14] <godlygeek> Jazzva: on intrepid, what's the flash version number you get?
[13:15] <Jazzva> godlygeek, 10.0.1.218+10.0.0.525ubuntu1
[13:15] <godlygeek> about:plugins has Shockwave Flash 10.0.0 d525 for me...  wonder if i have a later one than you?
[13:15] <Jazzva> that's the one
[13:20] <godlygeek> so, with the same version of ff3, and of flash, any thoughts at what things i should try to investigate?
[13:20] <godlygeek> it really is the difference between "works well" and "completely unusable"
[14:11] <cwillu> is there a repo or a ppa with flash10beta around?
[14:13] <XioNoX> yep
[14:13]  * cwillu jumps eagerly
[14:14]  * cwillu sits down obediently, with a stick in his mouth, tail wagging
[14:14] <XioNoX> https://launchpad.net/~thielmann/+archive
[14:14] <XioNoX> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/thielmann/ubuntu hardy main
[14:15] <XioNoX> Working better for me
[14:15] <cwillu> sounds great, thanks
[14:15] <XioNoX> but still slow for some full screen videos
[14:15] <cwillu> does one still need asound2-plugins?
[14:16] <XioNoX> don't seem to
[14:16] <Jazzva> XioNoX, if on intrepid, please test nspluginwrapper 1.0.0 from mozilla team's ppa
[14:16] <Jazzva> It might solve slowness
[14:17] <XioNoX> I'm still on hardy
[14:17] <XioNoX> and on 64bits, if i can help
[14:18] <Jazzva> nspluginwrapper compiled ok for amd64. It should work too...
[14:19] <XioNoX> can you build nspluginwrapper 1 for hardy ?
[14:20] <Jazzva> btw, that version for flash is bad (cairo10.0.0.525ubuntu1). It's higher than any number version
[14:20] <Jazzva> at least I think
[14:20] <Jazzva> XioNoX, I can try to push this to my ppa and see if it will build for hardy.
[14:20] <XioNoX> ok, thanks
[14:21] <Jazzva> np
[14:21] <godlygeek> there's already a 32-bit nspluginwrapper built for hardy in someone's ppa...
[14:21] <godlygeek> (that's what we're talking about, right?)
[14:21] <Jazzva> version 1.0.0?
[14:22] <XioNoX> i need a 64bits version to test it
[14:24] <godlygeek> sorry, no - nspluginwrapper_0.9.91.5-2ubuntu2_i386.deb
[14:24] <Jazzva> fta, ping
[14:25] <hyperair> hello there. anyone know why mozilla team's ppa seems to have a "mozilla-thunderbird" package which is 1.5?
[14:27] <Jazzva> fta, nvm :)
[14:30] <fta> grrr, i'm fighting with sparql, can't get anything right. maybe it's my rdf files
[14:37] <Jazzva> XioNoX, built :). Please report back how it works... https://edge.launchpad.net/~jazzva/+archive
[14:38] <Jazzva> And I suppose it will be replaced by the one in MT (in case we publish it to MT's PPA).
[14:39] <XioNoX> not yet on my apt-get
[14:40] <Jazzva> have you added my ppa?
[14:40] <XioNoX> yep
[14:40] <Jazzva> hmm... should be there in few minutes, I guess...
[14:40] <XioNoX> on your page, status is still "pending"
[14:40] <XioNoX> and not yet Published
[14:41] <XioNoX> now it is ok
[14:41] <Jazzva> oh, and run apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-nonfree after.
[14:44] <XioNoX> ok, it is a little bit better, but not enough fluid
[14:44] <XioNoX> there are still sacades
[14:45] <XioNoX> and one of my cores are at 100%
[14:45] <Jazzva> what's a sacade?
[14:45] <XioNoX> saccades
[14:46] <XioNoX> google traduction give me that word
[14:47] <XioNoX> it is not fluid, there are some "micro" pauses
[14:47] <Jazzva> aha, got it...
[14:47] <Jazzva> same here.
[14:48] <XioNoX> youtube is working fine
[14:49] <XioNoX> but a french TV website that propose to see movies during 14 days for free isn't
[14:49] <Jazzva> godlygeek, yeah, I notice the white dots here too... Now I took a good look at the video.
[14:49] <XioNoX> bis is amazing to see how flash is stable on 64bits
[14:56] <Jazzva> 'm off. be back in the evening. see you :)
[14:57] <XioNoX> cu
[15:49] <jtv> asac: hi, you there?
[15:49] <asac> yeah. just woke up
[15:49] <jtv> asac: woke up!?
[15:51] <XioNoX> is is 8am in vacouver i think
[16:33] <asac> all fine?
[16:33] <asac> ;)
[16:38] <XioNoX> no bears ? :D
[16:38] <asac> hehe
[16:38] <XioNoX> i'm stuck with a little pb
[16:39] <asac> i am stuck in a little village ;)
[16:39] <XioNoX> ok, you win ;)
[16:39] <asac> so whats the prob?
[16:40] <XioNoX> it is to get the ?XPILocation content in javascript
[16:40] <XioNoX> buttInstall.setAttribute("oncommand", "installPlugin();");
[16:41] <XioNoX> in the installPlugin();
[16:41] <XioNoX> because ?XPIlocation is replaced by it content only when XUL parse it
[16:41] <XioNoX> and not js
[16:42] <asac> huh?
[16:42] <asac> its replaced _before_ i think
[16:42] <asac> so using installPlugin('?something'); should work imo
[16:42] <XioNoX> nop
[16:42] <XioNoX> it didn't
[16:43] <XioNoX> with or without '
[16:43] <XioNoX> i get error
[16:43] <XioNoX> Javascript syntax error
[16:43] <XioNoX> or another error message
[16:47] <asac> well. it really should work. there most be something else wrong then
[16:48] <asac> try to just use "window.alert('?XXX');"
[16:51] <XioNoX> I have a popup
[16:52] <XioNoX> with "?XPILocation" inside :D
[16:52] <XioNoX> I'll try with \"
[16:54] <XioNoX> same with "
[16:55] <asac> are you sure that ?XPILocation actually works?
[16:56] <XioNoX> yep
[16:56] <asac> how do you know?
[16:57] <XioNoX> if I put buttInstall.setAttribute("label", ?XPILocation); it works
[16:57] <asac> oh
[16:57] <XioNoX> I can create XUL element with it
[16:57] <asac> you dont need ' then
[16:57] <XioNoX> but not using it inside javascript
[16:57] <XioNoX> window.alert(?XPILocation);
[16:58] <XioNoX> big bug of the addon window
[16:59] <asac> there is no realy difference of buttInstall.setAttribute("label", ?XPILocation); and window.alert(...) from what i can tell
[17:00] <asac> the evaluation should happen during XUL generation and not during javascript ... so it shouldnt really matter
[17:00] <asac> as long as its in a xul template
[17:01] <XioNoX> ok
[17:01] <XioNoX> but I've try all possibilities, and none of them works
[17:02] <asac> sounds strange
[17:02] <asac> to workaround you can add a "specialbuttoninstallproperty", ?XPILocation
[17:02] <XioNoX> I agree
[17:02] <asac> and then look up the "specialbuttoninstallproperty" from the installPlugins() function
[17:02] <XioNoX> i've thinks about that
[17:03] <asac> but thats an ugly hack
[17:03] <XioNoX> but I'll have do do a loop because there are 2 buttons
[17:03] <asac> but if it unstucks you for now, maybe do that and fix it for real later
[17:03] <asac> no you dont
[17:03] <asac> the installPlugins() function is run from the oncommand
[17:03] <asac> there you get a "e" object
[17:03] <asac> which has an eventtarget
[17:03] <asac> field .... which should be the button element that was clicked on
[17:04] <armin76> asac: bumb!
[17:04] <armin76> where are you?
[17:04] <asac> armin76: fly
[17:04] <asac> i am stuck in whistler
[17:04] <XioNoX> ok
[17:04] <XioNoX> the function installPlugin(aURI) is done
[17:04] <asac> waiting for my float plane to depart to vancouver
[17:04] <asac> (or not)
[17:05] <armin76> when thats supposed to happen? :D
[17:05] <asac> XioNoX: then make ainstalButtonPressed function for now
[17:05] <asac> that uses the event object provided by the oncommand event
[17:05] <asac> to get the URI and then runs installPlugin ()... :)
[17:05] <asac> understood?
[17:05] <asac> armin76: scheduled float plane lift of is in 6 hours from now
[17:05] <XioNoX> ok
[17:05] <asac> we start from a gulf course :)
[17:06] <XioNoX> I'll do that monday
[17:06] <asac> but weather is bad so its open if i can start at all
[17:06] <asac> XioNoX: or on weekend ;)
[17:06] <asac> hehe
[17:06] <XioNoX> hum
[17:06] <asac> you go home for weekends?
[17:06] <asac> XioNoX: we have a mozillateam meeting on sunday
[17:06] <asac> maybe you want to attend
[17:06] <asac> see topic ;)
[17:06] <XioNoX> I've relatives in paris
[17:07] <XioNoX> ok
[17:07] <asac> ah
[17:07] <XioNoX> I'll be there
[17:07] <asac> XioNoX: only if you are interested of course
[17:07] <asac> should take an hour or so
[17:07] <XioNoX> ha ok
[17:07] <XioNoX> I'm interested ;)
[17:08] <XioNoX> i'll be there
[17:09] <XioNoX> I go
[17:09] <fta> XioNoX: parisien ?
[17:09] <XioNoX> i move
[17:09] <XioNoX> yep during the internship
[17:10] <fta> great
[17:10] <XioNoX> you ?
[17:10] <fta> je bosse a paris
[17:10] <XioNoX> ou ca ?
[17:10] <fta> 3e
[17:11] <fta> je prefere taire le nom de la boite
[17:11] <XioNoX> pkoi?
[17:11] <fta> ben mon employeur peut me faire des miseres
[17:12] <XioNoX> a ce point là ?
[17:12] <XioNoX> j'te laisse, j'dois y aller
[17:12] <XioNoX> bye
[17:12] <fta> +
[17:14] <asac> fta: nss folks complained to me about the "SOVERSIONING" ;)
[17:14] <armin76> A+
[17:15] <fta> asac, we inherited that from debian
[17:15] <asac> true
[17:15] <asac> they said that they would be open to adapt a SOVERSIONING scheme if there are real arguments for it
[17:15] <fta> sharing between all moz apps
[17:15] <asac> but as it seems we probably should go for their way - whatever that will be
[17:16] <asac> fta: thast system-nss ... not really bound to the versioning
[17:16] <fta> it is, if you consider moz1.8, moz1.9, ...
[17:16] <asac> fta: they say that its always forward compatible.
[17:16] <fta> we are just lucky that at the moment, 1.8 is fine with fresh nss/nspr
[17:16] <asac> e.g. moz1.8 _must_ run with latest nss release
[17:17] <asac> they said that even moz1.4 should be able to use current nss
[17:17] <asac> its ment to be a drop in replacement :(
[17:18] <fta> well, maybe... Is there a precedent where debian had to bump soname ?
[17:18] <asac> i think the only benefit we get from the versoining is that you cannot be tricked into believing that moz1.9 could work with a nss that is older
[17:18] <asac> fta: had to ... no. i dont think so
[17:18] <asac> i think it really just guards us form "downgrade nss" case
[17:19] <asac> but still that has value
[17:19] <fta> but if there's no previous soname, that's no guard at all
[17:19] <asac> the reason that complained is that they want binaries produced on ubuntu to be usable on other systems that have system-nss
[17:19] <asac> fta: libnss3.so.0d -> libnss3.so.1d
[17:19] <asac> thats the bump we have
[17:19] <fta> oh
[17:19] <fta> right
[17:20] <asac> so if nss upstream would adapt a versioning likd libnss3.so.1 and people build against that, then the binaries would complain about a missing binary if dropped to a distribution that still has old nss
[17:20] <asac> which is probably better than symbol errors
[17:23] <fta> but asaik, debian and ubuntu are in sync for soname, so which distro(s) are they concerned about ?
[17:23] <asac> all the others
[17:24] <asac> fedora/rhel + suse/opensuse + gentoo
[17:24] <asac> and what not :)
[17:24] <asac> and all the people that build nss from source to get a "decent" crypto lib
[17:24] <asac> armin76: bump nss
[17:24] <asac> what do you do with nss?
[17:24] <fta> oh, you meant upstream tar.gz builds, not debs
[17:25] <asac> fta: yes. all builds of nss on linux
[17:25] <asac> distro independent
[17:25] <asac> thats what they want
[17:25] <asac> which also includes our packaged libs
[17:26] <fta> who is that, the moz guys or the nss/nspr guys ?
[17:26] <asac> nss guys
[17:26] <asac> which overlap a bit with moz
[17:26] <asac> but are mostly an independent entity
[17:26] <fta> i doubt the moz guys consider system libs
[17:27] <asac> well. they perceive distros as the main distribution channels - finally
[17:27] <asac> so they cant ignore system-XXX
[17:28] <asac> nspr guys didnt really complain. but probably the same applies there
[17:28] <asac> and they might just not know how we distribute their lib
[17:28] <asac> they certainly want to be even more "drop-in-binary-compatible"
[17:33]  * asac goes down to smoke
[17:37] <armin76> asac: what do i do? dunno, build it? :P
[17:47] <fta_> armin76, <fta> do you patch it to have libnss3.so.1d instead of libnss3.so ?
[17:48] <armin76> fta: uh...
[17:49] <armin76> fta: http://rafb.net/p/bOTgOE78.html
[17:49] <fta_> .12
[17:50] <fta_> so you have your own soname too
[17:50] <armin76> no clue, i didn't do the ebuild
[17:51] <fta_> you probably have a patch doing that
[17:52] <armin76> 	for file in *.so; do
[17:52] <armin76> 		mv ${file} ${file}.${MINOR_VERSION}
[17:52] <armin76> 		ln -s ${file}.${MINOR_VERSION} ${file}
[17:52] <armin76> 	done
[17:56] <fta_> hm, that's not real soname
[17:56] <fta_> try: objdump -x /usr/lib/nss/libssl3.so.12 | grep SONAME
[17:57] <armin76>  SONAME      libssl3.so.12
[17:57] <armin76> http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/dev-libs/nss/files/nss-3.12-config-1.patch?view=markup
[17:57] <armin76> thats probably what you mean
[17:57] <fta_> yep
[17:57] <asac> oh no ... flight is at risk
[17:59] <fta_> http://patches.ubuntu.com/by-release/extracted/ubuntu/n/nss/3.12.0.3-0ubuntu4/81_sonames.patch
[18:13] <asac> ok i have to go to city to forget about this desaster and hope for the best
[18:13] <asac> wish me luck ;)
[18:15] <armin76> lol
[18:15] <armin76> bad luck *g*
[18:27] <godlygeek> Could someone running Flash 10 Beta 2 tell me if this video works for them: http://video.zp.hu/page/peterfy_bori_es_a_love_band_1resz
[18:48] <fta> godlygeek, i can see the video but encoding seems bad (a lot of squares and white marks)
[18:48] <fta> godlygeek, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/flash10.png
[18:50] <godlygeek> fta: if it's not too much trouble, would you be able to try with flash 9?
[18:51] <godlygeek> just about every youtube video gives me something similar - white marks and short lines flickering across the video, mostly at edges with sharp contrast.
[18:52] <godlygeek> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awuTkVytgYs <- particularly bad
[18:52] <fta> i never have those white stripes on youtube, or anywhere else
[18:53] <fta> oh right, this one is bad, indeed
[18:55] <godlygeek> hah, maybe i've just had the bad luck of picking the only affected videos.  :)
[18:55] <godlygeek> fta: hardy, or intrepid?
[18:55] <fta> intrepid
[18:56] <godlygeek> someone earlier said that it worked on intrepid... but, i suppose it was just a fluke, they were only seeing videos that worked...
[18:56] <godlygeek> ok, well, thanks for the confirmation on that.
[19:00] <godlygeek> wish i could find a copy of the flash 10 beta 1 .so, but it doesn't seem to be hosted anywhere... :(
[19:26] <asac_> godlygeek: which graphics chipset/driver?
[19:31] <armin76> hows it asac_ :D
[19:43] <asac_> ok ... i have a plan D
[19:44] <fta> asac_, what for ?
[19:44] <asac_> bus to somewhere ... then by boat to vancouver :(
[19:44] <asac_> to get to the airport
[19:44] <asac_> i am stuck
[19:44] <fta> eh?
[19:44] <asac_> http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/07/30/bc-highway-rockslide-whistler.html?ref=rss
[19:44] <asac_> there is no way back except an 8 hour trip ... which is too long to get on plane in time
[19:44] <asac_> i booked a float plane
[19:45] <asac_> http://www.westcoastair.com/
[19:45] <asac_> but now they cannot assure that we can actually start because of bad weather :(
[19:45]  * asac_ crying
[19:45] <asac_> so i go by bus to another city and then by helicopter
[19:45] <fta> lol
[19:45] <asac_> i claled and they cannot guarantee either
[19:45] <asac_> because of bad weather
[19:45] <asac_> so i try t get on a boat
[19:45] <asac_> which unfortunately doesnt take reservations
[19:46] <asac_> so i might get stuck there too
[19:46] <asac_> if that fails i will never get back home
[19:46] <asac_> thats far too much adrenaline for me
[19:47] <asac_> i always knew it
[19:47] <asac_> this trip would have a bad end
[19:47] <fta> who's taking care of your expenses ?
[19:47] <asac_> myself for now
[19:47] <asac_> then i will see
[19:47] <fta> woww
[19:47] <asac_> i could have got on the bus this morning at 8am
[19:48] <asac_> i booked the plane to avoid the 8-10 hour bus drive
[19:48] <asac_> and now i failed
[19:48] <fta> too bad
[19:48] <asac_> its soo bad that there is only one street to vancouver ... and that one is now busted
[19:49] <asac_> ok ... now i go down to atm to get cash
[19:49] <fta> were you in that bus ?
[19:49] <asac_> no :)
[19:49] <fta> good for you
[19:49] <asac_> it happened on wednesday .... so i was here ;)
[19:49] <asac_> thats a real massive rockslide
[19:49] <asac_> like rocks size of houses
[19:50] <armin76> poor asac, that happens when you don't bumb :P
[19:50] <asac_> ok ... going to atm
[19:50] <asac_> please press thumbs that they can verify my credit
[19:50] <asac_> and the phone line isnt broken
[19:50] <asac_> if i have no money i am lost
[19:50] <armin76> lol
[19:52] <armin76> guess next time you'll reject the invitation :P
[19:52] <fta> doesn't seem such a huge pile of rocks to move in a few days...
[19:52] <fta> "expected to close for 5 days"
[19:57] <armin76> asac_: how much time on bus would be if the slide wouldn't happened?
[19:57] <armin76> hrm, ff3.1a1 already?
[20:00] <asac_> yeah. they are moving quick
[20:00] <asac_> fta: they need to use dynamite and such
[20:00] <asac_> there are other pictures in the local newspapers here that show the real extend of this
[20:00] <asac_> its massive
[20:00] <armin76> go fix it :P
[20:01] <armin76> did the atm work? :D
[20:01] <asac_> yeah .... bumb dynamite to v2.0
[20:01] <asac_> \o/
[20:01] <asac_> yes
[20:01] <asac_> i have money
[20:01] <asac_> money
[20:01] <asac_> money
[20:01] <asac_> most likely much more than i can ever spend
[20:01] <armin76> whee :D
[20:01] <asac_> but well. currently i just care about getting out of this
[20:02] <asac_> flight to london is not changable ... one-way ticket would cost 1400 Pounds ... so there is plenty of money i can spend here
[20:02] <armin76> asac_: tried walking? :D
[20:03] <fta> why not stay a few more days and visit the country ?
[20:03] <asac_> flight not changable
[20:03] <asac_> see above
[20:03] <fta> swim the river then take the next bus, or call a taxi
[20:04] <armin76> isn't there a train or what?
[20:04] <asac_> nope
[20:04] <asac_> ok i have to checkout
[20:04] <asac_> front desk called
[20:04] <asac_> taking a quick shower
[20:04] <asac_> cu all
[20:04] <asac_> whish me luck
[20:04] <fta> the rails are close to the road
[20:04] <fta> under the rocks
[20:05] <fta> asac_, good luck
[22:37] <Jazzva> evening...
[22:38] <fta> hi back
[22:38] <Jazzva> hey, fta :)
[22:38] <fta> virt-manager is seriously broken
[22:38] <Jazzva> what's virt-manager?
[22:38] <fta> i'm not able to install anything
[22:38] <fta> virtualization
[22:38] <fta> guest os
[22:39] <Jazzva> ah... too bad :(
[22:39] <Jazzva> file a bug :)
[22:39] <fta> i managed to install what i wanted manually using virt-install
[22:40] <Jazzva> :)