[00:03] brb reboot [00:09] * Daskreech waves [00:23] halp [00:23] X won't start [00:23] complains about a missig dri2 module [00:23] even after I've started with a clean xorg.conf [00:24] (Intrepid) [00:26] oh, and how do I switch channels in irssi? [00:29] Alt+Num [00:29] JontheEchidna: So if you see a number light up on the bar press alt+that number [00:30] might not work if terminal app is using those as shortcuts [00:32] Daskreech: thanks [00:34] emunkki: don't worry, x won't even start [00:34] ha [00:34] why not try /disco, you will get fancy discolights ;) [00:34] buahaha. [00:35] That was mean [00:35] naah.. ;) [00:35] classic! [00:36] who believes that you can get disco lights in an irc client? [00:36] Or maybe it will {disco}nnect you JontheEchidna [00:36] JontheEchidna, got you ;) [00:36] yeah... [00:36] lol [00:36] took away input [00:37] oh, that'd explain it [00:37] * JontheEchidna faceplams [00:38] ;)) [00:39] so [00:39] so [00:39] so [00:39] I've never seen an X error that couldn't be fixed by reverting xorg.conf to it's original state [00:39] this is weird [00:39] ...until now? [00:39] yes [00:40] complains about a missing dri2 module [00:43] bah, I'll do a fresh install... [00:43] ;) [00:44] i wonder if he wanted seriously to see the disco lights. [01:06] * JontheEchidna is on the liveCD [01:06] * Daskreech grins [01:06] chroot? [01:07] wut? [01:07] Ha ha [01:10] hwo are you fixing the X from a Live Cd? [01:10] I'm not [01:10] I'm doing a fresh install [01:15] hello all [01:16] I was wondering if this is the place to ask a few questions related to KDE4. [01:16] Ah missed that part [01:16] Ibex? [01:16] dhuv: #kubuntu-kde4 unless the question starts out how can I help develop.... [01:33] Daskreech: thanks === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna === Xand3r_laptop is now known as Xand3r === Xand3r is now known as Xander_laptop [02:52] How do I find out which package is associated with the group halclient ? [02:53] hey hp [02:54] whats up? [02:56] apachelogger: hey [03:17] mornfall: I love Adept 3.0! [03:17] JontheEchidna: from PPA? [03:17] yup [03:17] mornfall: just two things I noticed [03:17] -Rebuilding the Xaipian index was slow [03:18] -the xaipian builder process was using 100 MB RAM [03:18] Don't know how avoidable those issues are [03:18] but I updated 62-some packages without any problesm [03:29] JontheEchidna: do you know how I check pacakges for which groups they create? [03:29] nope [03:31] JontheEchidna you wouldn't happen to know which package creates halclient group ? [03:32] nope [03:32] you mean like a usergroup? [03:33] Ye [03:33] s [03:33] ih [03:33] *oh [03:34] maybe libhal? [03:34] * JontheEchidna restarts KDE [03:37] that was quick :) [03:37] He's an Echidna :) [03:37] what exactly is an echidna? [03:39] A greek Female monster [03:40] * jjesse learns something new [03:40] * jjesse goes back to listening to baseball game [03:41] um [03:41] a greek female monster??? [03:41] no [03:41] * Hobbsee attacks Daskreech with the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!™ [03:42] evening all [03:42] an echidna is an animal [03:42] jjesse: http://www.abc.net.au/science/scribblygum/June2000/img/f_echid10.jpg [03:42] named after a Female Greek monster :) [03:43] bah [03:43] watch out for that stick of doom [03:43] plasmoid-* packages need a rebuild [03:43] Riddell: ^ [03:43] Hobbsee: Have you tried out KDE4.1 yet? [03:43] * Hobbsee doesn't like echidnas crossing the road when she's attempting to get to work [03:43] ScottK: i haven't. how is it? [03:44] Dunno. I was hoping you'd tried it. [03:44] looks like a porcupine [03:44] Kompelling :) [03:44] i enjoy kde 4.1 [03:44] jjesse: yeah. there are some differences, but i dont' remember what they are [03:44] I've been spending all my (K)Ubuntu time lately filing Launchpad bugs. [03:45] Hobbsee: !!1 [03:45] * Daskreech hugs Hobbsee deftly avoiding the pointy parts [03:46] Anyone knows what package craetes teh usergroup halclient ? [03:46] Of course, to quote myself from comments in the Launchpad blog, "you can’t bugfix your way to a good design". [03:46] I'm not hopeful. [03:47] http://news.launchpad.net/cool-new-stuff/simpler-launchpad-web-interface#comment-6542 [03:47] not offhand, but you could kludgily find out. grep -nH halclient /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.p* [03:47] ^ Daskreech [03:47] crimsun: Hmm? [03:48] crimsun: this is not for a package that's installed [03:48] Heya crimsun. I was just over by your apartment (my wife had to make it to JoAnn Fabric for an emergency zipper procurement before they closed at 9). [03:48] ok, then I really have no idea [03:48] ScottK: I live in Columbia Heights now [03:48] Ah. I'm not sure I know where that it. [03:48] NW D.C. [03:49] Oh. Right. I do know where that it. [03:49] it/is [03:49] Nevermind. I wasn't close to your apartment at all tonight. [03:51] I know what you meant ;) [03:51] Blaaaaa [03:51] Daskreech: the closest I can google up is heartbeat-related [03:51] drbd is asking me to change the group of a executable file to halclient [03:51] Yeah it said that heartbeat would need it [03:52] but .. should I just make a group halclient or is it expecting it to rely on some package [03:52] I have heartbeat installed [03:52] crimsun: I actually lived close to there in the summer of '92 (at 16th and U). It's a much nicer area now than it was then. [03:53] Daskreech: I don't know offhand; are there README* in /usr/share/doc/$package ? [03:53] ScottK: yeah, the U Street corridor is really hip these days [03:53] crimsun: Hmm [03:55] Yeah but say nothing about it === krawek is now known as kramek [04:49] Hi manchicken [04:50] Hiya [05:00] JontheEchidna: Unfortunately, can't do much about the Xapian rebuild... I'll limit it to once a week I guess, and even then, cronjob should take care of it, so most of the time, you won't see it... [05:01] JontheEchidna: And thanks for the feedback. : - ) [05:32] hey guys, i am testing kde4 trunk but seem to have issues with nepomuk/soprano/sesame2 [05:33] it crashes continously and i believe is has something to do with dbus [05:33] running out of memory [05:34] http://rafb.net/p/1H2RgT54.html is a log autogenerated by the jvm [05:35] My system has 2GB RAM so i do not think memory is a contraint [05:40] I get similar crashes even with redland backend so its not really the JVM [05:42] what version of nepomuk? [05:43] trunk [05:46] Daskreech: when i was using the redland backend, launching nepomukserver from the command line i would often see the error [05:46] [/home/kishore/devel/kde4/bin/nepomukservicestub] QDBusConnectionPrivate::connectSignal: received error from D-Bus server while connecting signal to OrgKdeNepomukStrigiInterface::indexingStarted(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoMemory (Not enough memory) [05:47] That is strange [05:48] Daskreech: by the way, this is hardy 64bit [05:51] Anyone on hardy? [05:51] kishore: Well you obviously :0 [05:52] :) [05:53] can You modprobe drbd and tell me what it says? [05:54] no output in the cli, dmesg gives [05:54] [ 3185.042449] drbd: initialised. Version: 8.0.11 (api:86/proto:86) [05:54] [ 3185.042455] drbd: GIT-hash: b3fe2bdfd3b9f7c2f923186883eb9e2a0d3a5b1b build by phil@mescal, 2008-02-12 11:56:43 [05:54] [ 3185.042459] drbd: registered as block device major 147 [05:54] [ 3185.042461] drbd: minor_table @ 0xffff8100455df100 [05:55] Daskreech: whats the module for? [05:55] Daskreech: now that i noticed dmesg i notice [05:55] [ 562.939026] nepomukservices[6601]: segfault at 0 rip 0 rsp 7fff5f8f5778 error 14 [05:55] drbd but it's not in my copy of hardy :( [05:56] [ 1004.760076] nepomukservices[6980] general protection rip:7ffeaa8a242b rsp:7fffbae71888 error:0 [06:01] apachelogger: there i see a packaging bug in konqueror-plugin-fsview-kde4 which is trying to install man pages to prefix /usr instead of /usr/lib/kde4 === mendred_ is now known as mendred [08:26] What is the current stable? Gutsy? [08:28] hardy [08:30] Hardy. [08:30] Whatever, I'm lost. [08:30] How realistic is to have someone port Adept 3 alpha 5 to that? [08:31] backport, even [08:31] I recall the KDE4 packaging is somehow different there. [10:00] apachelogger: ping === Xand3r_laptop is now known as Xand3r === Xand3r is now known as Xand3r_laptop [12:37] morning :) [12:42] Morgen. [12:45] http://web.mornfall.net/stuff/adept-dpkg-error.png -- Good, ain't it? : - ] [12:47] * vorian looks [12:47] :/ [12:48] Oh, why that sour face? [12:48] It's the error handling I'm trying to showcase here... [12:48] (The error is very much deliberate.) [12:49] * mornfall pwns dpkg. [12:49] haha [12:49] well fantastic then! [12:49] No more undiscernable "commit failed" with no hint as to what went wrong. [12:50] ah, i understand now :) [12:50] most excellent! === mcas_away is now known as mcas [12:56] <|gunni|> mornfall: So Adept alpha does not run on kubuntu hardy, yet? [12:56] <|gunni|> Just tried to install it, but seems to not running [12:57] |gunni|: It already doesn't. If you'd manage to backport it, that'd be great. [12:57] <|gunni|> If i would be so experienced i would be glad :) [12:58] <|gunni|> Dont think that i am able to do so [13:09] mornfall: More testing [13:09] I get this when I tried to install Qt4 Linguist [13:09] http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2765/adepterrorry5.jpg [13:10] Hm, media swap. [13:10] Do you have any cdrom sources in sources.list? [13:11] let me check [13:12] nope [13:12] Interesting. [13:12] I can pastebin my entire sources.list if you'd like [13:13] http://pastebin.com/m2ba950fc [13:13] JontheEchidna: Did it write anything in the terminal? (If you haven't run from a terminal, can you try from one?) [13:13] Internal Error, ordering was unable to handle the media swap [13:13] Nothing else at all? [13:14] The line before that was "Creating GuiDPkgPM " [13:14] Frak me. [13:14] Yeah. [13:19] mornfall: this is a somewhat fresh Intrepid install, installed last night [13:20] JontheEchidna: how you likey? [13:20] :o [13:20] all updates ftbfs [13:21] JontheEchidna: Yeah. I must have screwed something, somewhere. I wish I knew what, where. [13:21] I haven't seen that for a long time. [13:24] JontheEchidna: I suppose everything downloaded correctly? [13:25] um [13:25] If it didn't, I would have a guess where the problem is... [13:26] yeah, everything seems to have [13:26] (A single 404 could pretty well break things, I'm not sure whether I have these errors handled.) [13:26] oh hey [13:26] If you try to install it again? [13:26] I have been getting 404s lately [13:26] with apt-get [13:26] Can you try in Adept again, and see if it tries to download something again? [13:27] That would indicate that we have a problem there. [13:29] nope, it doesn't seem to [13:29] Hmh. [13:29] : - | [13:30] And fails again with same error. [13:30] yes [13:30] And other packages work for you? [13:30] nope [13:30] None at all? [13:30] I've only tried one other [13:30] Hmh. [13:32] whoa [13:32] kbattleship works [13:33] * JontheEchidna had installed kbugbuster via apt-get in the meanwhile [13:33] Can you think of anything that the non-working have in commond, and, uncommon with the third? [13:34] And, what was the other one that didn't work? [13:39] meh [13:39] ok [13:39] qt4 linguist and it's dependencies rapidly goes through the download process [13:40] * jtechidna has to go in a bit btw [13:40] actually, right now [13:40] Okey, thanks. I think it's 404 or the like, which I don't catch properly. [13:40] Thanks. [13:40] See you around. [13:40] you're welcome [13:40] I'll drop you a line when I have alpha6. [13:40] It should fix that one. === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [13:40] cool [13:41] * JontheEchidna is away === Knightlust is now known as Igorot [14:58] afternoon all [14:58] heya Arby [14:59] * Arby is fighting with kio_sysinfo and losing [15:00] :( [15:00] if I build it without an about/kubuntu directory it builds and works fine [15:00] albeit with suse artwork [15:00] hmmmmmmmm [15:00] if I add an about/kubuntu it fails [15:02] this seems to be controlled by one of the CMakeLists files http://paste.ubuntu.com/33365/ [15:02] The kubuntu section is my addition but I think I did it wrong [15:04] the errors are http://paste.ubuntu.com/33366/ [15:05] vorian: any ideas ^^ ? [15:05] * vorian looks === Czessi__ is now known as Czessi [15:06] how are you adding the kubuntu stuff? [15:06] Arby: i am not sure but is it possible that the png files must be handled in a special way because they are binarys? [15:07] mcas: no idea [15:07] vorian: I just created a directory called kubuntu and copied the contents of the fedora directory [15:07] I was intending to fix the artwork etc later [15:07] once it builds properly [15:08] could you utilize the power of quilt and use diffs [15:08] i'd have to look at the package, do you have it in your ppa by chance? [15:09] possibly, if I had the slightest idea how [15:09] there is a comment in the readme about distro specific stuff [15:09] hang o [15:09] +n [15:10] http://paste.ubuntu.com/33369/ [15:10] so based on that I added an argument in debian/rules [15:10] mkdir build && cd build && cmake ../ -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr -DWITH_KUBUNTU:BOOL=TRUE [15:11] and inserted a section in the CMakeLists file as shown above [15:11] and that's where I'm stuck [15:12] eventually I think vorian is right and this will need to be a diff [15:13] otherwise I'm basically editing the source [15:13] hmmm [15:13] which is bad apparently [15:13] yeah, not good [15:13] :P [15:13] it's easier to maintain with patches [15:13] however, it needs to work first [15:13] then is it just diff old_directory new_directory ? [15:15] pretty much [15:20] hmm, it even works if about/kubuntu is an empty directory [15:25] I really don't understand why it complains about deletion of files when I haven't deleted anything :( [15:28] Oh. Cool. [15:28] /* TODO check that we managed to download everything, [15:28] * otherwise we wind up with Internal error */ [15:28] : - ) [15:28] I even noted that down. Next time I could remember to actually fix that. [15:31] apachelogger: ping [16:45] is there an easier way to search irc logs than by exact day? [16:52] * Jucato can only think of "download all those irc logs and use grep" :( [16:53] Google: site:irclogs.ubuntu.com [16:53] jpds: oh, good idea [16:53] oh right.. google [16:53] always useful [17:09] this is interesting i can't click on anythng in a live cd of intrepid in VM [17:09] nothing responds [17:24] JontheEchidna: [07:01:06] apachelogger: there i see a packaging bug in konqueror-plugin-fsview-kde4 which is trying to install man pages to prefix /usr instead of /usr/lib/kde4 [18:22] seele: ping [18:23] Artemis_Fowl: pong [18:23] seele: ah, good. yesterday I couldnt make it [18:24] that's ok [18:24] seele: so, did you have a look at the video? [18:24] i saw the background screencast. the only thing i think we could improve is how you create a background from a file [18:24] it seems a little awkward with two kfile dialogs popping up one after another [18:24] maybe turn it in to a two screen wizard? i dunno [18:25] seele: y. I have thought of that. I dont like it either [18:25] the problem is with saving it, without an intermediary screen, it isn't clear that the second file dialog is where you want to save the newly converted background file [18:25] ok, then we're on the same page :) [18:25] plus, what you have coomented on the last review [18:25] commented [18:25] * [18:26] that a line edit showing the path is not necessary [18:26] i will fix both of these [18:26] ok cool [18:26] but probably on the next version. [18:26] what is this now 0.9? [18:26] currently 0.7. I develop 0.8 [18:27] ok [18:27] we'll have it perfect by the time 1.0 comes :) [18:27] well.. 1.1 [18:27] y. currently I want to release 0.8 as soon as possible [18:27] we might have some surprises once a lot of users start using it [18:27] is 0.8 in good enough condition to package for kubuntu? or not yet [18:28] everything is working, except for the following list: [18:28] the install tool [18:28] even if it was in a ppa, we could blog about it and get some people to try it out [18:28] the back tool will fail in root-owned folders [18:28] backup tool* [18:28] hmm [18:28] what else? [18:28] ah [18:28] seele: I think given the current issues with DNS cache poisoning, encouraging PPA use is not the best idea (PPA repos are unsigned). [18:29] the password encryption tool fails , too [18:29] ScottK: what about private distribution? it would be nice if we could get 20 or so people to try it out instead of the 4 or 5 we had earlier [18:29] ScottK: and sign it with the key we used to sign the coc? [18:30] download and dpkg -i it [18:30] seele: I think that's much better. [18:30] ScottK: ok, thanks for the input :) [18:30] seele: once I fix the above things, I will create a System Settings module and release [18:30] Artemis_Fowl: ok. maybe apache_logger will make a package again [18:31] are you an ubuntu member? [18:31] seele: if I have time, I will include some new features/fixes too [18:31] you could sign it and we'll blog about it to get people to try it out [18:32] me? [18:32] yeah, did you sign the ubuntu code of conduct? [18:32] if not, i can sign it [18:32] i havent [18:32] read up ^ about scott's point about distributing packages [18:33] ok, i can sign it then [18:34] hmm.. gtg for a bit [18:34] Artemis_Fowl: if you have any questions, just ping and write [18:35] seele: ok [18:38] apachelogger: I don't see why it would :S [18:41] * JontheEchidna doesn't even see where to change that [18:49] Re. [18:52] JontheEchidna: I can indeed reproduce your error by cutting adept from internet. [18:52] cool [18:52] It installs fine now [18:52] So let's try fixing. [18:53] guess it really was a transient 404 error [18:53] Yes, I guess so. But the diagnostic still needs to be fixed. [18:54] of course [19:07] JontheEchidna: remove the mans [19:08] the always end up in /usr [19:10] apachelogger: the mans aren't in the .install fiels [19:10] righto [19:10] .manpage [19:10] or .manpages [19:10] * apachelogger never remembers whether it got an s or not [19:12] JontheEchidna: http://web.mornfall.net/stuff/adept-download-error.png [19:32] <\sh> apachelogger: do you have still the crashes in quasselclient when you enter the color preferences dialog? [19:40] \sh: nope [19:42] <\sh> apachelogger: when using latest ppa packages and backported intrepids quassel package and using oxygen it crashes as always... [19:43] <\sh> apachelogger: some bugs in the config ? [19:43] *shrug* [19:43] * apachelogger is running intrepid [19:43] <\sh> apachelogger: I'll try it later with intrepid ... on my t43 it's intrepid too :) [19:49] mornfall: cool [19:50] mornfall: is it possible to copy those errors for pasting? === hunger_t is now known as hunger [21:06] mornfall: Got a crasher: http://pastebin.com/d782a8bfb [21:06] the pastebin has the backtrace as well as reproduction instructions [21:09] JontheEchidna: Hm. Any timing requirements to reproduce it? [21:09] not really [21:09] not that I noticed [21:09] Hm. [21:10] Doesn't happen here... :\ [21:10] (Not even with alpha5 as released...) [21:10] hmm [21:10] Oh wait. [21:10] It's from installer. [21:10] yeah, in installer [21:11] Sorry, didn't realize that... [21:11] it's cool ;) [21:12] JontheEchidna: And it's even fixed in development, which is even cooler. : - ) (I can reproduce with alpha 5 now.) [21:12] nice [21:12] Hackers: organisms that can convert caffine into software [21:13] ;-) [21:13] (I have reworked a bunch of the installer UI code since it was rather fragile. Search results are much better now, too.) [22:37] The gstreamer phonon backend doesn't work [22:38] jjesse: hi, I thought this would be quicker than creating a wordpress account [22:39] james_w: yes? [22:39] I wanted to answer your bzr questions [22:39] in regards to my bzr question [22:39] i asked the other day on #launchpad and didn't get any response [22:39] "The major problem is python2.4 is the supported version and the current version of python for bazaar is 2.5." [22:39] I'm not sure what you mean here [22:40] SLES has python 2.4 by default? [22:40] james_w: yes [22:40] and i can't find a python2.5 package for 64 bit [22:40] bzr needs 2.4 or higher, so it should work fine [22:41] was it not working for you? [22:41] the packman repository that i was trying to install bzr from requires 2.5 [22:41] haven't tried to install from source yet [22:41] oh really, that sounds like a mistake [22:42] trying to find the correct crypto and paramiko that building from source requires [22:43]