[00:03] <JontheEchidna> brb reboot
[00:09]  * Daskreech waves
[00:23] <JontheEchidna> halp
[00:23] <JontheEchidna> X won't start
[00:23] <JontheEchidna> complains about a missig dri2 module
[00:23] <JontheEchidna> even after I've started with a clean xorg.conf
[00:24] <JontheEchidna> (Intrepid)
[00:26] <JontheEchidna> oh, and how do I switch channels in irssi?
[00:29] <Daskreech> Alt+Num
[00:29] <Daskreech> JontheEchidna: So if you see a number light up on the bar press alt+that number
[00:30] <emunkki> might not work if terminal app is using those as shortcuts
[00:32] <JontheEchidna> Daskreech: thanks
[00:34] <JontheEchidna> emunkki: don't worry, x won't even start
[00:34] <emunkki> ha
[00:34] <emunkki> why not try /disco, you will get fancy discolights ;)
[00:34] <emunkki> buahaha.
[00:35] <Daskreech> That was mean
[00:35] <emunkki> naah.. ;)
[00:35] <emunkki> classic!
[00:36] <emunkki> who believes that you can get disco lights in an irc client?
[00:36] <Daskreech> Or maybe it will {disco}nnect you JontheEchidna
[00:36] <emunkki> JontheEchidna, got you ;)
[00:36] <JontheEchidna> yeah...
[00:36] <JontheEchidna> lol
[00:36] <JontheEchidna> took away input
[00:37] <JontheEchidna> oh, that'd explain it
[00:37]  * JontheEchidna faceplams
[00:38] <emunkki> ;))
[00:39] <JontheEchidna> so
[00:39] <Daskreech> so
[00:39] <emunkki> so
[00:39] <JontheEchidna> I've never seen an X error that couldn't be fixed by reverting xorg.conf to it's original state
[00:39] <JontheEchidna> this is weird
[00:39] <emunkki> ...until now?
[00:39] <JontheEchidna> yes
[00:40] <JontheEchidna> complains about a missing dri2 module
[00:43] <JontheEchidna> bah, I'll do a fresh install...
[00:43] <emunkki> ;)
[00:44] <emunkki> i wonder if he wanted seriously to see the disco lights.
[01:06]  * JontheEchidna is on the liveCD
[01:06]  * Daskreech grins
[01:06] <Daskreech> chroot?
[01:07] <JontheEchidna> wut?
[01:07] <Daskreech> Ha ha
[01:10] <Daskreech> hwo are you fixing the X from a Live Cd?
[01:10] <JontheEchidna> I'm not
[01:10] <JontheEchidna> I'm doing a fresh install
[01:15] <dhuv> hello all
[01:16] <dhuv> I was wondering if this is the place to ask a few questions related to KDE4.
[01:16] <Daskreech> Ah missed that part
[01:16] <Daskreech> Ibex?
[01:16] <Daskreech> dhuv: #kubuntu-kde4 unless the question starts out how can I help develop....
[01:33] <dhuv> Daskreech: thanks
[02:52] <Daskreech> How do I find out which package is associated with the group halclient ?
[02:53] <Xander_laptop> hey hp
[02:54] <Xander_laptop> whats up?
[02:56] <Xander_laptop> apachelogger: hey
[03:17] <JontheEchidna> mornfall: I love Adept 3.0!
[03:17] <Daskreech> JontheEchidna: from PPA?
[03:17] <JontheEchidna> yup
[03:17] <JontheEchidna> mornfall: just two things I noticed
[03:17] <JontheEchidna> -Rebuilding the Xaipian index was slow
[03:18] <JontheEchidna> -the xaipian builder process was using 100 MB RAM
[03:18] <JontheEchidna> Don't know how avoidable those issues are
[03:18] <JontheEchidna> but I updated 62-some packages without any problesm
[03:29] <Daskreech> JontheEchidna: do you know how I check pacakges for which groups they create?
[03:29] <JontheEchidna> nope
[03:31] <Daskreech> JontheEchidna you wouldn't happen to know which package creates halclient group ?
[03:32] <JontheEchidna> nope
[03:32] <JontheEchidna> you mean like a usergroup?
[03:33] <Daskreech> Ye
[03:33] <Daskreech> s
[03:33] <JontheEchidna> ih
[03:33] <JontheEchidna> *oh
[03:34] <JontheEchidna> maybe libhal?
[03:34]  * JontheEchidna restarts KDE
[03:37] <jjesse> that was quick :)
[03:37] <Daskreech> He's an Echidna :)
[03:37] <jjesse> what exactly is an echidna?
[03:39] <Daskreech> A greek Female monster
[03:40]  * jjesse learns something new
[03:40]  * jjesse goes back to listening to baseball game
[03:41] <JontheEchidna> um
[03:41] <Hobbsee> a greek female monster???
[03:41] <JontheEchidna> no
[03:41]  * Hobbsee attacks Daskreech with the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!™
[03:42] <vorian> evening all
[03:42] <JontheEchidna> an echidna is an animal
[03:42] <Hobbsee> jjesse: http://www.abc.net.au/science/scribblygum/June2000/img/f_echid10.jpg
[03:42] <Daskreech> named after a Female Greek monster :)
[03:43] <JontheEchidna> bah
[03:43] <jjesse> watch out for that stick of doom
[03:43] <JontheEchidna> plasmoid-* packages need a rebuild
[03:43] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: ^
[03:43] <ScottK> Hobbsee: Have you tried out KDE4.1 yet?
[03:43]  * Hobbsee doesn't like echidnas crossing the road when she's attempting to get to work
[03:43] <Hobbsee> ScottK: i haven't.  how is it?
[03:44] <ScottK> Dunno.  I was hoping you'd tried it.
[03:44] <jjesse> looks like a porcupine
[03:44] <Daskreech> Kompelling :)
[03:44] <jjesse> i enjoy kde 4.1
[03:44] <Hobbsee> jjesse: yeah.  there are some differences, but i dont' remember what they are
[03:44] <ScottK> I've been spending all my (K)Ubuntu time lately filing Launchpad bugs.
[03:45] <Daskreech> Hobbsee: !!1
[03:45]  * Daskreech hugs Hobbsee deftly avoiding the pointy parts
[03:46] <Daskreech> Anyone knows what package craetes teh usergroup halclient ?
[03:46] <ScottK> Of course, to quote myself from comments in the Launchpad blog, "you can’t bugfix your way to a good design".
[03:46] <ScottK> I'm not hopeful.
[03:47] <ScottK> http://news.launchpad.net/cool-new-stuff/simpler-launchpad-web-interface#comment-6542
[03:47] <crimsun> not offhand, but you could kludgily find out.  grep -nH halclient /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.p*
[03:47] <crimsun> ^ Daskreech
[03:47] <Daskreech> crimsun: Hmm?
[03:48] <Daskreech> crimsun: this is not for a package that's installed
[03:48] <ScottK> Heya crimsun.  I was just over by your apartment (my wife had to make it to JoAnn Fabric for an emergency zipper procurement before they closed at 9).
[03:48] <crimsun> ok, then I really have no idea
[03:48] <crimsun> ScottK: I live in Columbia Heights now
[03:48] <ScottK> Ah.  I'm not sure I know where that it.
[03:48] <crimsun> NW D.C.
[03:49] <ScottK> Oh.  Right.  I do know where that it.
[03:49] <ScottK> it/is
[03:49] <ScottK> Nevermind.  I wasn't close to your apartment at all tonight.
[03:51] <crimsun> I know what you meant ;)
[03:51] <Daskreech> Blaaaaa
[03:51] <crimsun> Daskreech: the closest I can google up is heartbeat-related
[03:51] <Daskreech> drbd is asking me to change the group of a executable file to halclient
[03:51] <Daskreech> Yeah it said that heartbeat would need it
[03:52] <Daskreech>  but .. should I just make a group halclient or is it expecting it to rely on some package
[03:52] <Daskreech> I have heartbeat installed
[03:52] <ScottK> crimsun: I actually lived close to there in the summer of '92 (at 16th and U).  It's a much nicer area now than it was then.
[03:53] <crimsun> Daskreech: I don't know offhand; are there README* in /usr/share/doc/$package ?
[03:53] <crimsun> ScottK: yeah, the U Street corridor is really hip these days
[03:53] <Daskreech> crimsun: Hmm
[03:55] <Daskreech> Yeah but say nothing about it
[04:49] <Daskreech> Hi manchicken
[04:50] <manchicken> Hiya
[05:00] <mornfall> JontheEchidna: Unfortunately, can't do much about the Xapian rebuild... I'll limit it to once a week I guess, and even then, cronjob should take care of it, so most of the time, you won't see it...
[05:01] <mornfall> JontheEchidna: And thanks for the feedback. : - )
[05:32] <kishore> hey guys, i am testing kde4 trunk but seem to have issues with nepomuk/soprano/sesame2
[05:33] <kishore> it crashes continously and i believe is has something to do with dbus
[05:33] <kishore> running out of memory
[05:34] <kishore> http://rafb.net/p/1H2RgT54.html is a log autogenerated by the jvm
[05:35] <kishore> My system has 2GB RAM so i do not think memory is a contraint
[05:40] <kishore> I get similar crashes even with redland backend so its not really the JVM
[05:42] <Daskreech> what version of nepomuk?
[05:43] <kishore> trunk
[05:46] <kishore> Daskreech: when i was using the redland backend, launching nepomukserver from the command line i would often see the error
[05:46] <kishore> [/home/kishore/devel/kde4/bin/nepomukservicestub] QDBusConnectionPrivate::connectSignal: received error from D-Bus server while connecting signal to OrgKdeNepomukStrigiInterface::indexingStarted(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoMemory (Not enough memory)
[05:47] <Daskreech> That is strange
[05:48] <kishore> Daskreech: by the way, this is hardy 64bit
[05:51] <Daskreech> Anyone on hardy?
[05:51] <Daskreech> kishore: Well you obviously :0
[05:52] <kishore> :)
[05:53] <Daskreech> can You modprobe drbd and tell me what it says?
[05:54] <kishore> no output in the cli, dmesg gives
[05:54] <kishore> [ 3185.042449] drbd: initialised. Version: 8.0.11 (api:86/proto:86)
[05:54] <kishore> [ 3185.042455] drbd: GIT-hash: b3fe2bdfd3b9f7c2f923186883eb9e2a0d3a5b1b build by phil@mescal, 2008-02-12 11:56:43
[05:54] <kishore> [ 3185.042459] drbd: registered as block device major 147
[05:54] <kishore> [ 3185.042461] drbd: minor_table @ 0xffff8100455df100
[05:55] <kishore> Daskreech: whats the module for?
[05:55] <kishore> Daskreech: now that i noticed dmesg i notice
[05:55] <kishore> [  562.939026] nepomukservices[6601]: segfault at 0 rip 0 rsp 7fff5f8f5778 error 14
[05:55] <Daskreech> drbd but it's not in my copy of hardy :(
[05:56] <kishore> [ 1004.760076] nepomukservices[6980] general protection rip:7ffeaa8a242b rsp:7fffbae71888 error:0
[06:01] <kishore> apachelogger: there i see a packaging bug in konqueror-plugin-fsview-kde4 which is trying to install man pages to prefix /usr instead of /usr/lib/kde4
[08:26] <mornfall> What is the current stable? Gutsy?
[08:28] <Hobbsee> hardy
[08:30] <mornfall> Hardy.
[08:30] <mornfall> Whatever, I'm lost.
[08:30] <mornfall> How realistic is to have someone port Adept 3 alpha 5 to that?
[08:31] <mornfall> backport, even
[08:31] <mornfall> I recall the KDE4 packaging is somehow different there.
[10:00] <kishore> apachelogger: ping
[12:37] <vorian> morning :)
[12:42] <mornfall> Morgen.
[12:45] <mornfall> http://web.mornfall.net/stuff/adept-dpkg-error.png -- Good, ain't it? : - ]
[12:47]  * vorian looks
[12:47] <vorian> :/
[12:48] <mornfall> Oh, why that sour face?
[12:48] <mornfall> It's the error handling I'm trying to showcase here...
[12:48] <mornfall> (The error is very much deliberate.)
[12:49]  * mornfall pwns dpkg.
[12:49] <vorian> haha
[12:49] <vorian> well fantastic then!
[12:49] <mornfall> No more undiscernable "commit failed" with no hint as to what went wrong.
[12:50] <vorian> ah, i understand now :)
[12:50] <vorian> most excellent!
[12:56] <|gunni|> mornfall: So Adept alpha does not run on kubuntu hardy, yet?
[12:56] <|gunni|> Just tried to install it, but seems to not running
[12:57] <mornfall> |gunni|: It already doesn't. If you'd manage to backport it, that'd be great.
[12:57] <|gunni|> If i would be so experienced i would be glad :)
[12:58] <|gunni|> Dont think that i am able to do so
[13:09] <JontheEchidna> mornfall: More testing
[13:09] <JontheEchidna> I get this when I tried to install Qt4 Linguist
[13:09] <JontheEchidna> http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2765/adepterrorry5.jpg
[13:10] <mornfall> Hm, media swap.
[13:10] <mornfall> Do you have any cdrom sources in sources.list?
[13:11] <JontheEchidna> let me check
[13:12] <JontheEchidna> nope
[13:12] <mornfall> Interesting.
[13:12] <JontheEchidna> I can pastebin my entire sources.list if you'd like
[13:13] <JontheEchidna> http://pastebin.com/m2ba950fc
[13:13] <mornfall> JontheEchidna: Did it write anything in the terminal? (If you haven't run from a terminal, can you try from one?)
[13:13] <JontheEchidna> Internal Error, ordering was unable to handle the media swap
[13:13] <mornfall> Nothing else at all?
[13:14] <JontheEchidna> The line before that was "Creating GuiDPkgPM  "
[13:14] <mornfall> Frak me.
[13:14] <mornfall> Yeah.
[13:19] <JontheEchidna> mornfall: this is a somewhat fresh Intrepid install, installed last night
[13:20] <vorian> JontheEchidna: how you likey?
[13:20] <vorian> :o
[13:20] <vorian> all updates ftbfs
[13:21] <mornfall> JontheEchidna: Yeah. I must have screwed something, somewhere. I wish I knew what, where.
[13:21] <mornfall> I haven't seen that for a long time.
[13:24] <mornfall> JontheEchidna: I suppose everything downloaded correctly?
[13:25] <JontheEchidna> um
[13:25] <mornfall> If it didn't, I would have a guess where the problem is...
[13:26] <JontheEchidna> yeah, everything seems to have
[13:26] <mornfall> (A single 404 could pretty well break things, I'm not sure whether I have these errors handled.)
[13:26] <JontheEchidna> oh hey
[13:26] <mornfall> If you try to install it again?
[13:26] <JontheEchidna> I have been getting 404s lately
[13:26] <JontheEchidna> with apt-get
[13:26] <mornfall> Can you try in Adept again, and see if it tries to download something again?
[13:27] <mornfall> That would indicate that we have a problem there.
[13:29] <JontheEchidna> nope, it doesn't seem to
[13:29] <mornfall> Hmh.
[13:29] <mornfall> : - |
[13:30] <mornfall> And fails again with same error.
[13:30] <JontheEchidna> yes
[13:30] <mornfall> And other packages work for you?
[13:30] <JontheEchidna> nope
[13:30] <mornfall> None at all?
[13:30] <JontheEchidna> I've only tried one other
[13:30] <mornfall> Hmh.
[13:32] <JontheEchidna> whoa
[13:32] <JontheEchidna> kbattleship works
[13:33]  * JontheEchidna had installed kbugbuster via apt-get in the meanwhile
[13:33] <mornfall> Can you think of anything that the non-working have in commond, and, uncommon with the third?
[13:34] <mornfall> And, what was the other one that didn't work?
[13:39] <jtechidna> meh
[13:39] <jtechidna> ok
[13:39] <jtechidna> qt4 linguist and it's dependencies rapidly goes through the download process
[13:40]  * jtechidna has to go in a bit btw
[13:40] <jtechidna> actually, right now
[13:40] <mornfall> Okey, thanks. I think it's 404 or the like, which I don't catch properly.
[13:40] <mornfall> Thanks.
[13:40] <mornfall> See you around.
[13:40] <jtechidna> you're welcome
[13:40] <mornfall> I'll drop you a line when I have alpha6.
[13:40] <mornfall> It should fix that one.
[13:40] <JontheEchidna> cool
[13:41]  * JontheEchidna is away
[14:58] <Arby>  afternoon all
[14:58] <vorian> heya Arby
[14:59]  * Arby is fighting with kio_sysinfo and losing
[15:00] <vorian> :(
[15:00] <Arby> if I build it without an about/kubuntu directory it builds and works fine
[15:00] <Arby> albeit with suse artwork
[15:00] <vorian> hmmmmmmmm
[15:00] <Arby> if I add an about/kubuntu it fails
[15:02] <Arby> this seems to be controlled by one of the CMakeLists files http://paste.ubuntu.com/33365/
[15:02] <Arby> The kubuntu section is my addition but I think I did it wrong
[15:04] <Arby> the errors are http://paste.ubuntu.com/33366/
[15:05] <Arby> vorian: any ideas ^^ ?
[15:05]  * vorian looks
[15:06] <vorian> how are you adding the kubuntu stuff?
[15:06] <mcas> Arby: i am not sure but is it possible that the png files must be handled in a special way because they are binarys?
[15:07] <Arby> mcas: no idea
[15:07] <Arby> vorian: I just created a directory called kubuntu and copied the contents of the fedora directory
[15:07] <Arby> I was intending to fix the artwork etc later
[15:07] <Arby> once it builds properly
[15:08] <vorian> could you utilize the power of quilt and use diffs
[15:08] <vorian> i'd have to look at the package, do you have it in your ppa by chance?
[15:09] <Arby> possibly, if I had the slightest idea how
[15:09] <Arby> there is a comment in the readme about distro specific stuff
[15:09] <Arby> hang o
[15:09] <Arby> +n
[15:10] <Arby> http://paste.ubuntu.com/33369/
[15:10] <Arby> so based on that I added an argument in debian/rules
[15:10] <Arby> mkdir build && cd build && cmake ../ -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr -DWITH_KUBUNTU:BOOL=TRUE
[15:11] <Arby> and inserted a section in the CMakeLists file as shown above
[15:11] <Arby> and that's where I'm stuck
[15:12] <Arby> eventually I think vorian is right and this will need to be a diff
[15:13] <Arby> otherwise I'm basically editing the source
[15:13] <vorian> hmmm
[15:13] <Arby> which is bad apparently
[15:13] <vorian> yeah, not good
[15:13] <vorian> :P
[15:13] <vorian> it's easier to maintain with patches
[15:13] <Arby> however, it needs to work first
[15:13] <Arby> then is it just diff old_directory new_directory ?
[15:15] <vorian> pretty much
[15:20] <Arby> hmm, it even works if about/kubuntu is an empty directory
[15:25] <Arby> I really don't understand why it complains about deletion of files when I haven't deleted anything :(
[15:28] <mornfall> Oh. Cool.
[15:28] <mornfall>             /* TODO check that we managed to download everything,
[15:28] <mornfall>              * otherwise we wind up with Internal error */
[15:28] <mornfall> : - )
[15:28] <mornfall> I even noted that down. Next time I could remember to actually fix that.
[15:31] <kishore> apachelogger: ping
[16:45] <seele> is there an easier way to search irc logs than by exact day?
[16:52]  * Jucato can only think of "download all those irc logs and use grep" :(
[16:53] <jpds> Google: site:irclogs.ubuntu.com <thing>
[16:53] <seele> jpds: oh, good idea
[16:53] <Jucato> oh right.. google
[16:53] <Jucato> always useful
[17:09] <jjesse> this is interesting i can't click on anythng in a live cd of intrepid in VM
[17:09] <jjesse> nothing responds
[17:24] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: [07:01:06] <kishore> apachelogger: there i see a packaging bug in konqueror-plugin-fsview-kde4 which is trying to install man pages to prefix /usr instead of /usr/lib/kde4
[18:22] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: ping
[18:23] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: pong
[18:23] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: ah, good. yesterday I couldnt make it
[18:24] <seele> that's ok
[18:24] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: so, did you have a look at the video?
[18:24] <seele> i saw the background screencast.  the only thing i think we could improve is how you create a background from a file
[18:24] <seele> it seems a little awkward with two kfile dialogs popping up one after another
[18:24] <seele> maybe turn it in to a two screen wizard?  i dunno
[18:25] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: y. I have thought of that. I dont like it either
[18:25] <seele> the problem is with saving it, without an intermediary screen, it isn't clear that the second file dialog is where you want to save the newly converted background file
[18:25] <seele> ok, then we're on the same page :)
[18:25] <Artemis_Fowl> plus, what you have coomented on the last review
[18:25] <Artemis_Fowl> commented
[18:25] <Artemis_Fowl> *
[18:26] <Artemis_Fowl> that a line edit showing the path is not necessary
[18:26] <Artemis_Fowl> i will fix both of these
[18:26] <seele> ok cool
[18:26] <Artemis_Fowl> but probably on the next version.
[18:26] <seele> what is this now 0.9?
[18:26] <Artemis_Fowl> currently 0.7. I develop 0.8
[18:27] <seele> ok
[18:27] <seele> we'll have it perfect by the time 1.0 comes :)
[18:27] <seele> well.. 1.1
[18:27] <Artemis_Fowl> y. currently I want to release 0.8 as soon as possible
[18:27] <seele> we might have some surprises once a lot of users start using it
[18:27] <seele> is 0.8 in good enough condition to package for kubuntu? or not yet
[18:28] <Artemis_Fowl> everything is working, except for the following list:
[18:28] <Artemis_Fowl> the install tool
[18:28] <seele> even if it was in a ppa, we could blog about it and get some people to try it out
[18:28] <Artemis_Fowl> the back tool will fail in root-owned folders
[18:28] <Artemis_Fowl> backup tool*
[18:28] <Artemis_Fowl> hmm
[18:28] <Artemis_Fowl> what else?
[18:28] <Artemis_Fowl> ah
[18:28] <ScottK> seele: I think given the current issues with DNS cache poisoning, encouraging PPA use is not the best idea (PPA repos are unsigned).
[18:29] <Artemis_Fowl> the password encryption tool fails , too
[18:29] <seele> ScottK: what about private distribution?  it would be nice if we could get 20 or so people to try it out instead of the 4 or 5 we had earlier
[18:29] <seele> ScottK: and sign it with the key we used to sign the coc?
[18:30] <seele> download and dpkg -i it
[18:30] <ScottK> seele: I think that's much better.
[18:30] <seele> ScottK: ok, thanks for the input :)
[18:30] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: once I fix the above things, I will create a System Settings module and release
[18:30] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: ok.  maybe apache_logger will make a package again
[18:31] <seele> are you an ubuntu member?
[18:31] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: if I have time, I will include some new features/fixes too
[18:31] <seele> you could sign it and we'll blog about it to get people to try it out
[18:32] <Artemis_Fowl> me?
[18:32] <seele> yeah, did you sign the ubuntu code of conduct?
[18:32] <seele> if not, i can sign it
[18:32] <Artemis_Fowl> i havent
[18:32] <seele> read up ^ about scott's point about distributing packages
[18:33] <seele> ok, i can sign it then
[18:34] <seele> hmm.. gtg for a bit
[18:34] <seele> Artemis_Fowl: if you have any questions, just ping and write
[18:35] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: ok
[18:38] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: I don't see why it would :S
[18:41]  * JontheEchidna doesn't even see where to change that
[18:49] <mornfall> Re.
[18:52] <mornfall> JontheEchidna: I can indeed reproduce your error by cutting adept from internet.
[18:52] <JontheEchidna> cool
[18:52] <JontheEchidna> It installs fine now
[18:52] <mornfall> So let's try fixing.
[18:53] <JontheEchidna> guess it really was a transient 404 error
[18:53] <mornfall> Yes, I guess so. But the diagnostic still needs to be fixed.
[18:54] <JontheEchidna> of course
[19:07] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: remove the mans
[19:08] <apachelogger> the always end up in /usr
[19:10] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: the mans aren't in the .install fiels
[19:10] <apachelogger> righto
[19:10] <apachelogger> .manpage
[19:10] <apachelogger> or .manpages
[19:10]  * apachelogger never remembers whether it got an s or not
[19:12] <mornfall> JontheEchidna: http://web.mornfall.net/stuff/adept-download-error.png
[19:32] <\sh> apachelogger: do you have still the crashes in quasselclient when you enter the color preferences dialog?
[19:40] <apachelogger> \sh: nope
[19:42] <\sh> apachelogger: when using latest ppa packages and backported intrepids quassel package and using oxygen it crashes as always...
[19:43] <\sh> apachelogger: some bugs in the config ?
[19:43] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[19:43]  * apachelogger is running intrepid
[19:43] <\sh> apachelogger: I'll try it later with intrepid ... on my t43 it's intrepid too :)
[19:49] <JontheEchidna> mornfall: cool
[19:50] <JontheEchidna> mornfall: is it possible to copy those errors for pasting?
[21:06] <JontheEchidna> mornfall: Got a crasher: http://pastebin.com/d782a8bfb
[21:06] <JontheEchidna> the pastebin has the backtrace as well as reproduction instructions
[21:09] <mornfall> JontheEchidna: Hm. Any timing requirements to reproduce it?
[21:09] <JontheEchidna> not really
[21:09] <JontheEchidna> not that I noticed
[21:09] <mornfall> Hm.
[21:10] <mornfall> Doesn't happen here... :\
[21:10] <mornfall> (Not even with alpha5 as released...)
[21:10] <JontheEchidna> hmm
[21:10] <mornfall> Oh wait.
[21:10] <mornfall> It's from installer.
[21:10] <JontheEchidna> yeah, in installer
[21:11] <mornfall> Sorry, didn't realize that...
[21:11] <JontheEchidna> it's cool ;)
[21:12] <mornfall> JontheEchidna: And it's even fixed in development, which is even cooler. : - ) (I can reproduce with alpha 5 now.)
[21:12] <JontheEchidna> nice
[21:12] <JontheEchidna> Hackers: organisms that can convert caffine into software
[21:13] <JontheEchidna> ;-)
[21:13] <mornfall> (I have reworked a bunch of the installer UI code since it was rather fragile. Search results are much better now, too.)
[22:37] <JontheEchidna> The gstreamer phonon backend doesn't work
[22:38] <james_w> jjesse: hi, I thought this would be quicker than creating a wordpress account
[22:39] <jjesse> james_w: yes?
[22:39] <james_w> I wanted to answer your bzr questions
[22:39] <jjesse> in regards to my bzr question
[22:39] <jjesse> i asked the other day on #launchpad  and didn't get any response
[22:39] <james_w> "The major problem is python2.4 is the supported version and the current version of python for bazaar is 2.5."
[22:39] <james_w> I'm not sure what you mean here
[22:40] <james_w> SLES has python 2.4 by default?
[22:40] <jjesse> james_w: yes
[22:40] <jjesse> and i can't find a python2.5 package for 64 bit
[22:40] <james_w> bzr needs 2.4 or higher, so it should work fine
[22:41] <james_w> was it not working for you?
[22:41] <jjesse> the packman repository that i was trying to install bzr from requires 2.5
[22:41] <jjesse> haven't tried to install from source yet
[22:41] <james_w> oh really, that sounds like a mistake
[22:42] <jjesse> trying to find the correct crypto and paramiko that building from source requires
[22:43] <james_w> but to answer your other questions, launchpad doesn't require a particular bzr version, and it should work fine as long as you have a reasonably recent format
[22:43] <james_w> (recent enough to read the formats that the branches you want to work with are in)
[22:43] <jjesse> james_w: ok thanks i guess i'm going to also try and build latest version from source
[22:46] <james_w> give me a shout if anything goes wrong
[22:46] <jjesse> james_w: will do, looks like most of the repositories i can find have python2.5
[22:47] <jjesse> i'll have to figure things out
[22:47] <jjesse> and my install has 2.4
[22:47] <jjesse> thanks for the offer of help
[23:52] <JontheEchidna> cool, new upstream release of plasmoid-quickaccess