[00:00] <ephracis> Daisuke_Laptop: yeah, I never cared for pc gaming tho..
[00:00] <nuxil> Guys ..shouldnt this talk be in offtopic
[00:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> possibly
[00:07] <observing> hello all
[00:07] <nuxil> hi there
[00:07] <maeva> hi observing i'm smoking a nice fat joint :-)
[00:08]  * nuxil wants a sip
[00:08] <observing> I´m usisng kubuntu into a laptop, with shipset intel
[00:08] <observing> How can i put compiz to work here?
[00:08] <maeva> the ubuntu tribe
[00:08] <maeva> just install compiz
[00:08] <maeva> someone had the same question some hours ago
[00:08] <maeva> it can be done true synaptic so you can use the cube effects
[00:09] <nuxil> !compiz
[00:09] <maeva> nice :)
[00:09] <ephracis> maeva: lol
[00:09] <observing> thanks
[00:09] <maeva> windows: we suck everyday and that's guaranteed!
[00:10] <nuxil> windows makes you stupid :p
[00:11] <maeva> i've tried frostwire really nice P2P client just like limewire but opensource
[00:12] <maeva> it can be easily installed on ubuntu
[00:12] <unclean> Why can't I log into myspace using Ubuntu 8.04 and Flash 9?
[00:12] <maeva> maybe firefox has disabled the addo-ons ?
[00:12] <maeva> no-script blocked also flash here for my youtube
[00:12] <unclean> ABOUT:PLUGINS
[00:12] <maeva> i had to allow the site so the plug-ins like flash could work
[00:13] <nuxil> where is my sip :p
[00:13] <unclean> Yea I cannot watch youtube videos either
[00:13] <maeva> aha
[00:13] <maeva> many have that
[00:13] <unclean> So wtf do I do?
[00:13] <unclean> lol
[00:13] <maeva> got fiurefox 3.0 ?
[00:13] <maeva> it's called no-script
[00:13] <maeva> it's blocks it
[00:13] <unclean> Im not sure I upgraded my firefox
[00:13] <maeva> or you need to install the flash plugin
[00:14] <unclean> i have the flash 9 plugin
[00:14] <maeva> help - about shows you version
[00:14] <maeva> yes
[00:14] <maeva> i had identical the same problem
[00:14] <unclean> FF2 when I go to d/l FF3 once its done it just shows me a 30mb folder that says firefox
[00:14] <francesco_> !it
[00:15] <maeva> flashplugin-nonfree
[00:15] <maeva> Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
[00:15] <maeva> !be
[00:15] <maeva> lol it do is a country though!
[00:16] <unclean> should I extract the FF3 files into my old FF folder?
[00:16] <maeva> unclean: how do you mean, you can use 2.0 and 3.0 seperatly
[00:16] <unclean> i d/led FF3
[00:17] <unclean> not a PKG
[00:17] <maeva> yeah
[00:17] <maeva> true synaptic is possible
[00:18] <maeva> and also watch right at the bottom there is normally a script
[00:18] <maeva> it was default in my firefox called no-script that blocks those video's
[00:19] <unclean> well I d/led FF3 and im unsure how to install it....
[00:19] <unclean> it just gives me a folder
[00:19] <maeva> but why download ??
[00:19] <maeva> do it true synaptic
[00:20] <maeva> or true one little command in terminal and you got it
[00:20] <maeva> .Deb is best extension most easy to iinstall
[00:21] <maeva> unclean: system - synaptic pakket manager and type in search firefox 3.0
[00:22] <unclean> okay should I mark all?
[00:23] <maeva> only 3.0 is good
[00:23] <maeva> there is also seamonkey or konqueror
[00:24] <maeva> Ability: polski ?
[00:25] <unclean> okay how can  fnd ff3
[00:25] <unclean> lol
[00:25] <maeva> lol
[00:26] <unclean> live for real...
[00:26] <unclean> lol
[00:26] <unclean> can only find ff anf ff2
[00:26] <maeva> strange
[00:26] <maeva> do $ sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0 in terminal or Konsole
[00:27] <maeva> without the $
[00:28] <unclean> firefox-3.0 is already the newest version.
[00:28] <unclean> just cant find it
[00:28] <unclean> lol
[00:28] <maeva> fuck windows with their viruses/spyware and yearly anti virus subscriptions that otherwise don't work properly
[00:28] <maeva> than you got it :d
[00:28] <maeva> Once installed click on Applications > Internet > Firefox Web Browser
[00:29] <maeva> we dont need microsoft office or photoshop when we got openoffice and Gimp
[00:29] <gyroscope> or alt+f2 -> firefox
[00:30] <unclean> I got it THanks (^_^)
[00:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> maeva: good in theory, but i beg to differ.  until the gimp has better colour management, we need photoshop
[00:30] <unclean> SHould IGet"noscript"?
[00:30] <maeva> with wine then
[00:30] <unclean> NO Script
[00:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> unclean: adblock plus and noscript are two "must-have" extensions, i've found
[00:31] <unclean> Ok thnx
[00:31] <maeva> unclean: yeah you may choose it blocks many things
[00:31] <maeva> openoffice can create .doc files or vieuw them that's really nice
[00:32] <gyroscope> also openoffice can be create pdf files :)
[00:37] <unclean> thnx for the help guys...
[00:38] <unclean> BUt i still cant log into myspace!!!
[00:39] <oscar> español
[00:39] <oscar> español
[00:40] <Githzerai> !es |oscar
[00:44] <unclean> cannot execute binary file?
[00:53] <unclean> i guess im destined to never watch a video or login to myspace while using ubuntu
[00:53] <unclean> been at this for days
[00:53] <unclean> lol
[00:54] <nuxil> sudo chmod 755 bin.file ; sudo ./bin.file
[01:10] <math> hola!
[01:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> help, i am trying to install kubuntu hardy on my girl's computer
[01:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> and i can't seem to do it, i tried three times now
[01:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> one through the live cd
[01:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> it's a toshiba satelite celeron 1805-S204
[01:12] <nuxil> where is the python xchat module ?
[01:12] <CostaRicanQuaker> it starts installing everything and then when it's past 79% it starts doing some beeping noises then a black screen showsup
[01:12] <CostaRicanQuaker> and hten it asks me to take cd out and reboot
[01:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> then when i try to reboot(i formated the disk when installing btw it was using windows xp) it asks me to insert disk and press a key
[01:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> but if i do this nothing happens
[01:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> i tried twice from the original menu wehn you stick the cd in
[01:13] <nuxil> corrupt disk pherhaps
[01:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> the install kubuntu
[01:13] <nuxil> *cd
[01:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> no way
[01:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> it's from shipit
[01:13] <bazhang> did you md5 the iso
[01:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> from canonical
[01:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> is there a way to force the install? i mean everythign is fine, it did partition and set up the ext3
[01:14] <nuxil> try in text mode
[01:14] <CostaRicanQuaker> it just won't install, past a certain point in the installation it starts beeping
[01:14] <bazhang> !alternate
[01:14] <CostaRicanQuaker> what if it that doesn't work? try with another kubuntu cd?
[01:15] <CostaRicanQuaker> well it's the canonical cd so i'm guessing htat if i press f4 there should be an alternate install option right?
[01:15] <bazhang> the live cd and alternate cd are two different items
[01:15] <CostaRicanQuaker> hmmm
[01:15] <CostaRicanQuaker> i onlyhave the kubuntu cd
[01:16] <CostaRicanQuaker> i don't recall ubuntu coming in two different cds
[01:16] <nuxil> did you try with acpi=off
[01:16] <CostaRicanQuaker> acpi=off?
[01:16] <bazhang> the one they sent you is more than likely the livecd
[01:16] <nuxil> CostaRicanQuaker,  is it a old pc?
[01:16] <bazhang> ie not the alternate cd.
[01:17] <nuxil> !python-xchat
[01:17] <nuxil> hmm
[01:17] <CostaRicanQuaker> the only alternate cd i have is an old 5.10 ubuntu cd
[01:17] <CostaRicanQuaker> nuxil: it is an old pc
[01:17] <CostaRicanQuaker> it's around 2000ish
[01:17] <CostaRicanQuaker> toshiba satelite 1805-S204
[01:18] <bazhang> how much ram
[01:19] <CostaRicanQuaker> no idea...no way to check now...as i used the use whole diskl option when installing
[01:19] <nuxil> CostaRicanQuaker,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[01:19] <nuxil> where is the python-xchat module ?
[01:20] <nuxil> !info python-xchat
[01:20] <nuxil> err
[01:22] <nuxil> hmm why  has python-xchat module been excluded in hardy?
[01:23] <bazhang> !find python-xchat
[01:23] <CostaRicanQuaker> so what do i do?
[01:23] <bazhang> try the alternate cd
[01:23] <nuxil> CostaRicanQuaker, or one of the options on that site i gave you.,
[01:24] <bazhang> !torrents
[01:24] <nuxil> !locate python-xchat
[01:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> the only alternate i have is an old 5.10
[01:24] <nuxil> lol
[01:24] <bazhang> a new one
[01:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> and my drive at home has never ever got a good cd when i check for errors
[01:24] <CostaRicanQuaker> when i burn an iso
[01:27] <|dorkface|> Hi all.  When I use the volume keys on my laptop to change the volume, it changes it with kmix in increments of 10% each push.  I would like to decrease that increment to 1-5% per push.  Anyone know how I might go about doing that?
[01:29] <histo> Don't push the button so hard.
[01:29] <|dorkface|> :p
[01:29] <nuxil> hack into the app which controll is or write a .xbindkeysrc file
[01:29] <juan_> alguien me puede decir como bajo meenseger para linux
[01:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> !es
[01:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> !pidgin
[01:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> juan_: ^
[01:31] <nuxil> has anyone a pack with the python-xchat module ?
[01:31] <juan_> gracias soy muy novato en esto
[01:34] <unclean> !flash
[01:34] <unclean> !dapper
[01:36] <histo> nuxil: What are you trying to do?
[01:36] <nuxil> histo, im writing a small plugin for xchat,, but i need the python xchat module
[01:37] <nuxil> it doesnt seem to be included in hardy
[01:37] <histo> nuxil: well if its part of xchat its there.  If its an add on it may not be.
[01:41] <nuxil> histo, xchat seems to be compiled with python support.. i must be doing something wrong
[01:42] <histo> Well then I don't understand what you are looking for.
[01:43] <histo> there is #xchat on this server as well.
[01:44] <nuxil> i'll figure it out..
[01:45] <nuxil> histo, hehe.. nevermind,, i got it working,, i had a typo in my script implort xchat --> import xchat :p
[01:45]  * nuxil feels stupid
[01:47] <cybertaur1> hello everyone
[01:47] <nuxil> hi cybertaur1
[01:47] <cybertaur1> I've got a question about kde... if I have some windows overlapping, and I click on the one in the background, it gets focus, but doesn't come to the front unless I click on the titlebar
[01:48] <cybertaur1> is that standard? is there any way to change it so that clicking anywhere brings it to the front?
[01:48] <nuxil> right click on titlebar.. behaviour.
[01:48] <nuxil> focus
[01:49] <nuxil> select click to focus
[01:49] <cybertaur1> right-click on any window's titlebar? would using emerald affect the right-click options?
[01:49] <nuxil> are you on compiz ?
[01:50] <cybertaur1> yeah
[01:50] <nuxil> aha
[01:50] <nuxil> open compiz configure settings
[01:50] <nuxil> general
[01:51] <cybertaur1> a-ha
[01:51] <cybertaur1> got it
[01:51] <cybertaur1> thank you very much
[01:51] <nuxil> np
[01:51] <cybertaur1> I didn't think to look there, but it makes sense
[01:51] <nuxil> :)
[01:51] <cybertaur1> actually, as long as I'm here, might as well ask another question, if you don't mind
[01:51] <nuxil> shoot
[01:51] <cybertaur1> I just installed kde4.1, coming from ubuntu (gnome)
[01:51] <cybertaur1> and it's great
[01:51] <cybertaur1> but
[01:51] <nuxil> 0,o
[01:51] <cybertaur1> I'm using pidgin
[01:52] <nuxil> !pidgin
[01:52] <cybertaur1> ﻿and when a message window doesn't have focus, and I get a new message, the task manager doesn't change appearance at all
[01:52] <cybertaur1> the text for that window doesn't get bold, there's no visual effect
[01:52] <cybertaur1> which is something of an annoyance
[01:52] <nuxil> this question someone else answers, i dont use thouse apps.
[01:53] <cybertaur1> well, I'm not sure if it's just pidgin or in general
[01:53] <cybertaur1> is there a way to specify what happens when a window "flashes", so to speak?
[01:53] <cybertaur1> when it's trying to notify you
[01:54] <nuxil> dunno
[01:54] <cybertaur1> ok
[01:54] <cybertaur1> well, thanks for the focus help
[01:54] <Jokoto> why does compiz prevent alt-dragging windows past the top of the screen? I don't actually use it, but it was on by default when I installed ubuntu (now kubuntu) on my Eee and I'm just wondering
[01:54] <nuxil> your welcome.
[01:55] <cybertaur1> oh, and one more question (sorry about all the questions): I was reading http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/desktop.php , and they have all these shortcuts to different things, like CTRL+F12 to get to the Dashboard, and ALT+F2 for KRunner
[01:55] <cybertaur1> but they're not doing anything
[01:56] <cybertaur1> do I have to start them somewhere?
[01:56] <cybertaur1> maybe enable them or something?
[01:56] <nuxil> !kde4
[01:58] <cybertaur1> so I should move to that room instead?
[01:58] <nuxil> yup
[01:58] <cybertaur1> ok
[01:58] <cybertaur1> thanks
[01:58] <nuxil> np
[02:07] <mark_> hello
[02:09] <naknomik> I just installed KDE 4.1 and it's just awesome!
[02:09] <cybertaur1> naknomik: agreed
[02:10] <naknomik> One thing still puzzles me. There is a Zoom In button when you click on the bubble in top. What does it do?
[02:10] <flaccid> naknomik: wrong channel, see topic
[02:11] <naknomik> flaccid: Is KDE 4.1 is not part of Kubuntu?
[02:11] <flaccid> it is but it has its own support channel as this one is kde3 until intrepid
[02:12] <naknomik> aah OK. will go there. Sorry for disrupting your peace.
[02:12] <flaccid> wasn't a disruption, all good :)
[02:18] <nuxil> flaccid, are you up for a question?
[02:20] <nuxil> why is not [Locale] listed in ~/.kde4/share/config/kdeglobals ?? but in ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals it is. im trying to out what file kde4 saves it in since im writing a script that suppose to support both kde3 and kde4
[02:21] <flaccid> hmm kde4 help not in this chan
[02:21] <flaccid> but i don't know the answer anyway
[02:21] <flaccid> nuxil: #kde might be better at answering
[02:21] <rodolfo> #Ubuntu-ar
[02:21] <nuxil> i know.. been in #kubuntu-kd4 and #kde
[02:21] <nuxil> no ones seems to know
[02:25] <flaccid> #kde-devel nuxil maybe or hassle Jucato when hes alive
[02:25] <flaccid> or post to a kde dev mailing list
[02:28] <nuxil> flaccid, i think i found it ;)
[02:29] <nuxil> cd ~/.kde4 ; find -type f -print0 | xargs -r0 grep -F 'Locale'
[02:44] <nuber> Hello, I have a question about editing disc volumes, what tool would you recommend to change and replace the serial of a drive to something else?
[02:46] <edju>  I installed nvidia-glx-new and linux-restricted modules.  But nvidia doesn't show up in hardware drivers.  Any hints, pointers?
[02:52] <DeeperStill> Hello, I just finished downloading kubuntu onto my windows Vista laptop. When in my Vista OS I am able to connect to the internet, but on the kubuntu os, I am not. I have ips numbers, subnet numbers and gateway numbers but they do not seem to work when placed in kubuntu. has anyone has simular issues who can help me?
[02:58] <rickey> i was updateing ,and there was a misstake inthe updateing packages and caused adept manger to crash
[02:58] <rickey>  and so now i can open it
[02:58] <rickey> now i cant open it
[02:59] <rickey>  sorry
[03:00] <rickey> would someone be nice enoth to give me the command to reset or fix it
[03:01] <Dragnslcr> !aptfix
[03:12] <oscar___> español
[03:12] <Dragnslcr> !es
[03:13] <lunch> 'top' shows i have cached swap. but not swap currently being used.  wonder if i use up it to another 512 ram.  currently have 700 mb ram.
[03:19] <billessig> Hello. Can anyone provide me with a Kubuntu 8.04 sources.list?
[03:19] <billessig> Having dependency problems.
[03:20] <phil_> i was hoping somebody could help me with kaffeine.  i put in a DVD and the warning about copying dvds came up like it should.  after that was done playing the dvd quit.  it didn't go on to the menu.  any ideas?
[03:20] <rww> billessig: sure, give me a sec
[03:20] <billessig> Phil, try launching it from a command prompt and see what the terminal says.
[03:20] <billessig> Thans rww
[03:21] <crystal> hello
[03:22] <billessig> hello
[03:22] <crystal> I have a question... i just installed KDE 4.1 on kubuntu, up from 3.5... am I the only one who has no idea how the hell to use it? I checked for documentation and it's not even for version 4
[03:23] <billessig> It's a bit of a change
[03:23] <billessig> Kind of hard to get used to.
[03:23] <crystal> ya no kidding, i dont mind change, if it actually told you how to use it
[03:23] <billessig> Are you experiencing usability problems or actual bugs?
[03:24] <crystal> not that I can tell, I just don't know how to accomplish most basic tasks i took for granted in 3.5, and there's no kind of beginners intro guide from what ive sen
[03:25] <crystal> it just seemd kind of shortsighted to release it without any indication as to how its supposed to work
[03:25] <crystal> seems
[03:25] <rww_> billessig: my internet died :(. Did you get one, or shall I go pastebin it?
[03:26] <rww_> billessig: eh, either way. http://paste.ubuntu.com/33222/ . It has main and universe; if you want restricted and multiverse, just add restricted multiverse to the end of each line
[03:27] <phil_> billessig:  thanks for the help with kaffeine.  i got an error saying that it couldn't dycrypt the dvd.  i'm in the process of fixing that.  why didn't it give me that error when i boot from the icon as opposed to the console?
[03:28] <billessig> phil: no problem
[03:28] <billessig> rww: thanks, got those
[03:28] <rodolfo> #Ubuntu-es
[03:32]  * crystal sighs
[03:32] <juan_> alguien sabe que programa deb instalar para todaas las funciones graficas de ubuntu
[03:33] <phil_> so after trying the sudo command in the following paste, i'm still getting the error.  any more ideas?  http://pastebin.com/d387f7dbe
[03:33] <mr---t-> !es | juan
[03:34] <juan_> thank
[03:34] <mr---t-> np
[03:44] <crystal> can anyone help me with this?
[03:45] <crystal> eh, hell with it, i'm going back to 3.5.9
[03:59] <lunch> how to tell if you are allocating too much memory for video? i am using share memory. 768 mb ram
[04:08] <roldyx> hello
[04:08] <roldyx> I cant compile a kernel
[04:09] <roldyx> here the error
[04:09] <roldyx> root@tubarao:/usr/src/linux-2.6.26# make menuconfig
[04:09] <roldyx>   HOSTCC  scripts/basic/fixdep
[04:09] <roldyx> scripts/basic/fixdep.c: In function ‘usage’:
[04:09] <roldyx> scripts/basic/fixdep.c:131: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘fprintf’
[04:10] <roldyx> why????????
[04:10] <roldyx> help me please
[04:11] <rww> were there any other error messages beside that one? if so, please copy them to pastebin
[04:11] <rww> !pastebin
[04:11] <roldyx> rww: only 3 lines!
[04:11] <rww> the one you copied here was just a warning. i'm a little rusty on my compiler-fu, but i don't think warnings are fatal =/
[04:11] <roldyx> well...
[04:12] <roldyx> scripts/basic/fixdep.c:131: error: ‘stderr’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[04:12] <roldyx> next line
[04:12] <roldyx> I compile a lot of kernel...
[04:12] <roldyx> but always with debian
[04:14] <rww> try sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:14] <roldyx> rww i have these package
[04:14] <rww> it looks like you're missing some headers you'll need to compile the kernel, and that package should provide them
[04:14] <rww> hmm
[04:14] <roldyx> ii  build-essential
[04:16] <rww> roldyx: okay, let me see what else i can dig up
[04:17] <roldyx> ii      libc6
[04:17] <roldyx> ii       lib6-dev
[04:18] <roldyx> sorry libc6-dev
[04:18] <rww> not sure if this'll help, but do you have libncurses5-dev installed?
[04:18] <roldyx> libncurses5-dev
[04:18] <rww> guess so :)
[04:18] <roldyx> yes of course
[04:19] <roldyx> the problem i think that is libc6-dev...
[04:20] <brandon__> Hey all!
[04:20] <roldyx> rww: when i made apt-get xxxx
[04:21] <brandon__> I am a NOOB and was wondering if I install xgl will i still need xorg?
[04:21] <roldyx> i get ..
[04:21] <crimsun> brandon__: in effect, yes.
[04:21] <roldyx> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[04:21] <roldyx> /sbin/ldconfig.real: File /usr/lib/libc.so is empty, not checked.
[04:22] <brandon__> I have Kubuntu 8.04 and for some reason my cpu is staying at 100% usage. Any idea why?
[04:23] <rww> roldyx: hmm, i'm not sure. you may want to ask in #ubuntu; there are many more people there, and one of them might know
[04:23] <brandon__> Thanks, I'll do that.
[04:23] <rww> brandon__: open up a terminal and run top. it'll sort programs in descending order of CPU usage
[04:24] <roldyx> rww: thanks anyway
[04:24] <roldyx> ;)
[04:24] <roldyx> rww: sorry for my english..
[04:25] <brandon__> i have done that and really not found anything too bad: no zombies. etc ...
[04:25] <rww> roldyx: no problem, you type better than my family does, so I have no complaints ;)
[04:26] <rww> brandon__: are there one or two processes taking up all of your CPU%, though?
[04:27] <brandon__> xgl takes an average of about 4% spikes up to 27% on occasion nothing else even close???
[04:28] <rww> Hmm. You probably aren't hitting 100%, then. What's the first percentage on the 3rd line of top's output? "CPU(s): X.X%us"?
[04:29] <brandon__> I am really stumped. This is a pretty fresh install. I added compiz:1.0.7.6 and the avant-window-navigator and kbfx. other than that nothing fancy..
[04:30] <brandon__> OOOO! python is spiking up in the 80's now..
[04:31] <brandon__> ya, it's python that's eating me up.
[04:33] <black_13> can kubuntu be updated to mythbuntu
[04:33] <rww> hmm. try killing python then -- sudo killall python
[04:35] <brandon__> Thanks, everything seems to be fine now. How can I prevent that from happenning in the future. I had already reniced it to 19??
[04:37] <rww> brandon__: to be honest, I'm not sure. you'd have to dig a little deeper and find out what python's doing it, and why it's running
[04:38] <brandon__> ok. since yo seem to be pretty knowledeable. Do you have time for another quick one?
[04:38] <rww> brandon__: sure :)
[04:40] <brandon__> I have kubuntu 8.04. I have upgraded to compiz 1.7.6 I can't get the desktop number to change from 1 but I can change the horizontal size to 4 and get a cube. I really want to use the wallpaper plugin, but I would have to get this solved first.
[04:41] <brandon__> I can get it to work fine on ubuntu 8.04 and on linux mint 5.0 (elyssa)
[04:41] <rww> brandon__: I don't have 3D acceleration on my computer, so i know next to nothing about compiz :(. you could try asking the folks in #compiz-fusion though
[04:41] <rww> !compiz | brandon__
[04:41] <brandon__> Kde seems to be giving me trouble though
[04:43] <brandon__> I tried compiz-fusion but they refer me to launchpad and they just say it is not supported. Just thought I'd ask....
[04:43] <rww> ah
[04:43] <brandon__> thanks for the help with python
[04:46] <_2> hmmm how many possable executable commands does tab tab offer ?
[04:46] <_2> i'm showing too many.
[04:46] <_2> Display all 18273 possibilities? (y or n)
[04:47] <Schijnn> I've been having strange audio problems, can anyone help?  I can only get Dragon Player and Juk to output audio.  I know what audio device I have, but I can't any GTK apps or mixers to see it.
[04:49] <_2> ok i'll bite, what audio divice do you have ?
[04:50] <_2> !sound | well then Schijnn
[04:50] <Schijnn> SB Live, it shows up in the KDE device manager as emu10k1.  Modprobe shows it as snd-emu10k1
[04:51] <_2> Schijnn ok.   and you are pointing arts at alsa ?
[04:52] <_2> or not arts ?     .* at alsa ?
[04:53] <Schijnn> Hmm, it's running twice.  Once as me, and once as root.
[04:56] <Schijnn> Arts is running, but not alsa
[04:57] <nuxil> can konversation use xchat plugins ?
[04:57] <_2> !alsa
[04:59] <nuxil> Agent_bob is undercover as _2 :p
[04:59] <_2> >.>
[04:59] <_2> <.<
[05:00] <nuxil> hehe
[05:02] <mr---t-> thats base two to you
[05:02] <_2> :)
[05:05] <Schijnn> Okay, I went to the sound troubleshooting page, tried all the tests, and alsamixer is still loading the wrong device.
[05:06] <_2> ok.   do what i always do.   /join #alsa     and let the pro's help you.
[05:06] <paolo_> can kde and kde4 live together ?
[05:06] <_2> paolo_ yep
[05:06] <paolo_> _2: how about the config files? does kde4 use only .kde5?
[05:07] <paolo_> _2: sorry ... .kde4
[05:07] <_2> paolo_ yep
[05:07] <paolo_> _2: nice.. thakns
[05:07] <paolo_> thanks
[05:07] <_2> paolo_ yep
[05:08] <nuxil> what language do the speak in chile ? espaniol ?
[05:09] <_2> si
[05:09] <nuxil> :)
[05:11] <_2> officially i think it's es  but they speak a lot of en and some native "inkan" as well as the occational pt
[05:12] <nuxil> ic
[05:14] <nuxil> _2, do you know if konversation can handle xchat plugins ?
[05:14] <_2> no idea.
[05:15] <nuxil> _2, are you on konverstion =
[05:15] <nuxil> ?
[05:15] <_2> no
[05:15] <_2> bx
[05:15] <_2> konversation  that's that gui thingy isn't it ?
[05:15] <nuxil> yeah
[05:16] <nuxil> its kde's irc client i think
[05:16]  * _2 never understood "pointy clicky thingys" to do plain text communication....
[05:17] <nuxil> i use xchat cos i find it simple to read the text, i tired other gui client and thouse suck .. imo..
[05:17] <nuxil> _2, are you into python?
[05:17] <_2> no
[05:17] <_2> nor perl
[05:17] <nuxil> ok,
[05:18] <_2> and i do not C
[05:18] <nuxil> hehe.. only bash :p
[05:18] <_2> nah man.   tcsh sh dash bash ....
[05:19] <_2> :)
[05:19] <bradford> Good evening all (at least on CDT)
[05:19] <nuxil> im working onn this pluging idea genii came up with,,
[05:19] <nuxil> _2, http://pastebin.com/mebf74ec
[05:19] <_2> bradford
[05:19] <nuxil> far from done yet
[05:20] <bradford> I've just been cruising the unanswered posts on ubuntu forums and thought I'd come by and see how you guys are doing
[05:22] <_2> nuxil that's python ?
[05:22] <nuxil> yeah
[05:22] <_2> yeah thought i recognized it's lack of fi
[05:23] <nuxil> yep,, i was verry confues about that when i started learning python
[05:23] <_2> bradford i'm well, and you?
[05:23] <bradford> can't complain _2
[05:23] <_2> nuxil yeah it's in the indention
[05:24] <_2> ooops  sorry,  i don't know python.
[05:24] <_2> my bad.
[05:24] <bradford> I dont mean to bud in, but python is a great language
[05:24] <bradford> I have done a little
[05:24]  * nuxil agrees
[05:25] <bradford> before trying python I was using Visual Basic 6.0
[05:25] <bradford> not quite as streamlined if you ask me
[05:26] <bradford> I also like the fact that I can take a python script and carry it from linux to windows and back with no problems
[05:26] <nuxil> omg, vb 6
[05:26] <bradford> LOL, I know I dont mean to swear like that
[05:27] <nuxil> pyqt3 is easy to use for making gui with python ,, but i cant get my head around pyqt4,,
[05:27] <nuxil> but with time i will
[05:27] <bradford> I've only used tk
[05:37] <bradford> You know what I've noticed in the last two days about Ubuntu users vs. Kubuntu users?
[05:37] <bradford> Kubuntu users are a lot more melow.
[05:38] <bradford> I logged on to the ubuntu IRC channel and the text was flying by so fast I could hardly read it
[05:38] <bradford> but here everybody just takes it easy
[05:38] <nuxil> :)
[05:38] <bradford> dont get me wrong I'm not bashing I just think its funny
[05:38] <nuxil> no need to stress when you are in kde
[05:38] <nuxil> :p
[05:39] <Daskreech> anyone knows if the Hardy kernel ships with DRBD modules?
[05:39] <bradford> indeed nuxil
[05:39] <Daskreech> !drbd
[05:39] <Daskreech> !heartbeat
[05:39] <nuxil> !info drbd
[05:39] <bradford> me either
[05:40] <nuxil> Dragnslcr, what kind of modules are that?
[05:40] <nuxil> im running a custom kernel so i cant check
[05:40] <nuxil> @ Daskreech,
[05:41] <Daskreech> nuxil: drbd I've installed drbd and it won't start
[05:41] <Daskreech> with /etc/init.d/drbd start it says Modules not found
[05:42] <nuxil> what does dmesg tell you
[05:42] <Daskreech>  but Hardy should ship with them
[05:42] <nuxil> ahh. ok
[05:43] <nuxil> Daskreech, what does google tell you
[05:44] <Daskreech> nuxil: Eh? as to the error? or the availabilty fo DRBD??
[05:44] <nuxil> both
[05:45] <Daskreech> To the error there are almost no pages for the availabilty it says You do not need to compile kernel modules in 8.04 anymore as it ships by default
[05:47] <nuxil> Daskreech, do you know the exact name for the module ? try look in /lib/modules/`uname -r`
[05:47] <Daskreech> ok thanks
[05:48] <_2> if bash_completion ;then modprobe *tab
[05:49] <_2> well i'm back.  i'll try to catch up now.
[05:49] <Daskreech> hi _2
[05:51] <_2> Daskreech shalom
[05:51] <_2> was just reading what was done while i was out.
[05:53] <_2> Daskreech your kernel module in question is probably going to be in the restricted extras
[05:54] <rabiddachshund> Is it possible to have compiz work with dual monitors?
[05:54] <mr---t-> _2:  shabat shalom
[05:55] <_2> rabiddachshund i think so.  but not sure whether it will just span of double the output.
[05:55] <_2> Aleichem mr---t-
[05:55] <Daskreech> _2: under what package name?
[05:56] <_2> Daskreech errr what if i don't know.    linux-restricted-.*
[05:56] <rabiddachshund> I've got an ati x600 pos that I had running in big desktop mode. Every time I tried to run compiz it would freak out. One screen would take up a monitor and a half and the other screen would go static/black.
[05:57] <rabiddachshund> Disable big desktop mode and compiz runs fine, but I like my dual monitors.
[05:57] <Daskreech> Annoying :(
[05:58] <_2> rabiddachshund understandable.   you can get more precise information on that in the compiz channel though
[05:58] <_2> !compiz
[05:58] <rabiddachshund> good point. :D
[05:58] <Daskreech> Seems that my  hosting provider has an Ubuntu machine powered by FC kernels
[05:59] <_2> Daskreech SE ?
[06:00]  * _2 doesn't blame a guy for not prefering ubuntu kernel specs.
[06:00] <_2> OOMK=smart  is imo dumb
[06:02] <_2> good name benoit   in english that would break down into   "be no it"    too many it's nowa'days
[06:03] <Daskreech> _2 benoit or ! _2 benoit
[06:03] <_2> :)
[06:03] <Daskreech> s/or/||/
[06:04] <_2> -o
[06:06] <_2> find . * -o ! *          [ * -o ! * ]            * || !*         syntax is as syntax does
[06:06] <Daskreech> _2: You forgot the ors in between all of those :)
[06:07] <_2> no  they were intened to not be joined.
[06:07] <_2> thus the long space
[06:09] <Daskreech> _2: No I meant as in they are options of each other so it can written ____ or ____ or ____
[06:09] <_2> multimedia Q.   fastest, easiest, most popular way to encode .vob files into some free format  ogg maybe ?
[06:10] <Daskreech> Vobs are DVDs?
[06:10] <_2> Daskreech i understood that but the "find" statement does't transpose with the other two.
[06:10] <Daskreech> Si
[06:10] <_2> Daskreech it's from dvd yes.
[06:11] <_2> i think it's fmpeg  or some such
[06:13] <_2> so...  howto transcode/encode/mencode/vorbis'ize these files ?
[06:16]  * _2 taps the mic.  <THUMP THUMP THUMP!  SQEEEEAL>  "is this thing on?"   
[06:16] <Daskreech> dvd::rip ?
[06:17] <_2> hmmm   i have that.   but i'm hoping there is a better way to just reformat these files.
[06:17] <_2> besides i think it requires some exterenal encoder to do that
[06:18] <_2> i'm not trying to get anything off a dvd.  i have the .vob's locally.
[06:19] <Daskreech> ah
[06:19] <Daskreech> Umm check theora.org ?
[06:19] <_2> ok.
[06:19] <rabiddachshund> What's the best dock for kde? Isn't Awn for gnome?
[06:20] <nuxil> kooldock is one option
[06:20]  * _2 thinks that it should make no differance at all if the .vob files were on * or not.
[06:21] <rabiddachshund> interesting. thanks
[06:22] <nuxil> np
[06:25] <_2> !divx
[06:26] <_2> pfft
[06:30] <ForgeAus> grrr my video card fan is playing up :(
[06:31] <_2> ForgeAus if you let the smoke out of those little things on the card they will go on strike and refuse to work until more smoke can be put back into them...
[06:32] <_2> all electronics ren on smoke.
[06:32] <_2> run
[06:32] <ForgeAus> anyway, how to complete dist-upgrade when its a catch 22, the bad kernel has a localdef bug, but I don't have the other kernel to install it with
[06:33] <ForgeAus> gutsy -> hardy still stuck in the middle of a dist-upgrade, wasn't a problem for feisty->gutsy...
[06:33] <_2> what error ?
[06:34] <ForgeAus> no error just hangs at installing the locale package
[06:34] <_2> ForgeAus when you do    dpkg --configure -a      what error does it report ?
[06:34] <ForgeAus> _2 no errors
[06:34] <_2> as root  ^
[06:34] <_2> ok.  and    apt-get install -f     ?
[06:34] <ForgeAus> as I said it just hangs on the locales package
[06:35] <ForgeAus> apt-get install -f, I'll try it, but I don't think thats going to work either, brb...
[06:35] <_2> ForgeAus so dpkg hangs  ?
[06:35] <ForgeAus> (currently in root shell - recovery mode)
[06:35] <_2> ForgeAus stick around.
[06:36] <nuxil> ForgeAus, are you sure it hangs and not trying to fetch all the locales ?
[06:36] <_2> you can open other consoles from root
[06:36] <ForgeAus> apt-get install -f tells me to do a dpkg --configure -a
[06:36] <ForgeAus> I can do a dpkg --configure -a but that will try to install the locales package again an dhang the machine
[06:36] <nuxil> lol.. the bad cyclus
[06:36] <ForgeAus> _2 uh not sure how
[06:37] <_2> ForgeAus  openvt -sf
[06:37] <ForgeAus> (I'm in text mode not in konsole or X)
[06:37] <_2> ForgeAus and alt+left
[06:37] <ForgeAus> that seemed to work
[06:37] <_2> to switch back
[06:37] <ForgeAus> yes
[06:38] <_2> actually    alt+left  == decrese tty    alt+right == increse tty     anyway.       dpkg --configure -a --force-all
[06:38] <ForgeAus> whats the force all switch do?
[06:39] <ForgeAus> It hink I need to fix locales/localdef before I try dpkg ing again
[06:39] <_2> make it continue even with errors.   hopefully it gets you past the hangup
[06:39] <ForgeAus> or manually somehow put in another kernel that doesn't have this local-def issue
[06:39] <ForgeAus> _2 if I do that command its just going to hang on locales isn't it?... think about it
[06:40]  * _2 thinks about it.
[06:40] <ForgeAus> it needs to not install locales somehow
[06:40] <ForgeAus> or install a diff version of it that worx
[06:40] <Nyle> !amd64
[06:40] <_2> ok.   apt-get remove local*
[06:41] <ForgeAus> I don't think there is a solution at this point :(
[06:41] <ForgeAus> might just have to d/l hardy :(
[06:41] <Nyle> !amd64 java
[06:41] <Nyle> !amd64 flash
[06:41] <Nyle> !flash
[06:42] <ForgeAus> nope still tells me to do a dpkg --configure -a
[06:42] <ForgeAus> nice try tho :)
[06:42] <Nyle> hey guys
[06:42] <Nyle> what is better?
[06:43] <ubuntu> hi. i'm testing kUbuntu right now. but how do I configure the graphics? Screen resolution is CRAP. I am running the Live CD under VMWorkstation - so I haven't installed kUbuntu yet
[06:43] <Nyle> 32bit firefox/java etc. or nspluginwrapper?
[06:43] <nuxil> does it tell you to remove stuff ForgeAus
[06:43] <nuxil> apt-get autoremove
[06:43] <ForgeAus> nuxil no
[06:43] <ForgeAus> just to run a dkpg --configure -a
[06:43] <_2> ForgeAus rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/locale* ;dpkg --configure -a
[06:43] <ForgeAus> its nto that I can't do that it just isn't going to help if I do... first thing dpkg --configure -a does is try to install locales
[06:44] <ForgeAus> thx _2 I'll try that
[06:44] <nuxil> ForgeAus, you could spend hoers in dep hell..  i think you better of just dl hardy
[06:44] <_2> nuxil nah we fix it.
[06:45] <ubuntu> hi. i'm testing kUbuntu right now. but can someone tell me how to configure the graphics? Screen resolution is CRAP. I am running the Live CD under VMWorkstation - so I haven't installed kUbuntu yet
[06:45] <nuxil> it always woth a try :)
[06:45] <meta> good m0rning
[06:45] <nuxil> ubuntu, install it first then we tell you :p
[06:46] <nuxil> g. morning to you too meta
[06:46] <daniel_1982> hehe right :)
[06:46] <_2> i think that the restricted drivers are locked out of the live cd.   so  in short  if it's an ati card or some nvidia cards   you can't
[06:46] <ForgeAus> nice :) seems to be working
[06:46] <nuxil> ForgeAus, you got lucky :)
[06:46] <daniel_1982> (changed nick ubuntu -> daniel_1982)    i won't install if the resolution is this crappy
[06:47] <daniel_1982> ok
[06:47] <_2> nuxil i beg to differ.   he got help.
[06:47] <ForgeAus> if it installs another kernel I can then put in locales with the new one after :)
[06:47] <_2> ForgeAus yep.
[06:47] <ForgeAus> or if that doesn't work redo that and try installing an older kernel and then install the locales package
[06:48] <_2> ForgeAus if you need locales support yes.
[06:48] <ForgeAus> I know it works with one of the kernels (15 instead of 17 or something , I'd have to research it to know for sure)
[06:48] <_2> i just use  LC_ALL=C
[06:48] <ForgeAus> _2 hehe it might be unnecessary I don't know...
[06:48] <ForgeAus> well the installer kept complaining when I used a kill for localdef, and defaulted back to LC_ALL=C anyway
[06:49] <ForgeAus> but I didn't like the warnings I didn't trust it
[06:49] <ForgeAus> and I only had 77% of hardy installed
[06:49]  * _2 nods
[06:49] <ForgeAus> (when I rebooted didn't even go into X)
[06:50] <_2> mine never does....
[06:50] <ForgeAus> the install should upgrade the kernel somewhere in that
[06:50] <ForgeAus> so it should fix the issue unless the new kernel retains the bug
[06:50] <ForgeAus> (if so I'm going to have to change my sources.list to get an older fiesty kernel to install locales
[06:50] <_2> heh yeah   or introduces new and worse wones.
[06:51] <ForgeAus> yeah mine doesn't either it just adds a new one instead of replacing the old one....
[06:51] <ForgeAus> I wish I hadn't have thought the older one was safe to remove before hehe
[06:51] <ForgeAus> I wouldn't have been stuck with the problem
[06:52] <_2> "remove old kernel only after fully testing new one"   -- linux beginners rules # 21
[06:52] <ForgeAus> whats fully testing include?
[06:53] <nuxil> check that your hw works correctly
[06:53] <ForgeAus> nux it did work correctly
[06:53] <_2> not sure.    but at the very least it would include that it boots and everything installed runs...
[06:53] <ForgeAus> its a bug in the dist-upgrade
[06:53] <ForgeAus> _2 when I was in Gutsy everything was fine
[06:54] <ForgeAus> it was just the dist upgrade between gutsy and hardy that messed up
[06:54] <ForgeAus> the kernel was ok as far as I knew...
[06:54] <_2> oh you want rule 26
[06:54] <ForgeAus> it worked for every other purpose :)
[06:55] <ForgeAus> and rule 26 is?
[06:55] <_2> "but always keep a spair kernel arund on a boot disk" -- linux beginners rules 26
[06:55] <ForgeAus> hehe good rule :)
[06:56] <ForgeAus> actually I did have my feisty CD I wonder if that would have sufficed! lol
[06:57] <ForgeAus> uh oh
[06:57] <ForgeAus> I spoke too soon
[06:57] <ForgeAus> locales must be a dependancy of another package
[06:57] <ForgeAus> its trying to install it again :(
[06:58] <_2> i told you to remove it with apt.
[06:58] <_2> while you could.   ;/
[06:58] <ForgeAus> I remvoed the dpkg/info stuff
[06:59] <_2> but not the package which would have taken all it's dependant packages with it.
[06:59] <ForgeAus> no you don't get it its another package is dependant on locales
[07:00] <_2> yes i did get it.
[07:00] <ForgeAus> rather than a package locales is dependant on
[07:00] <ForgeAus> in that cas eyour confusing me
[07:00] <ForgeAus> how is removing locales going to help if its required by another package to be installed?
[07:00] <ForgeAus> (of all things somewhere along the line of kubuntu-desktop)
[07:01] <_2> ForgeAus listen.    if you do rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/something    then you need to run  dpkg --configure -a ; apt-get remove something     so that it will clean out everything that depends on it.   then you can upgrade and reinstall *buntu-desktop
[07:02] <ForgeAus> _2 I'm listening but I still don't understand
[07:02] <_2> removing the package with apt does what ?
[07:02] <ForgeAus> isn't the dpkg --configure -a just going to need locales again anyway?
[07:02] <ForgeAus> the package isn't broken it simply just hangs on installing with that kernel
[07:02] <_2> dpkg   does not download anything.
[07:03] <ForgeAus> oh.. ok...
[07:03] <_2> so. <ForgeAus> isn't the dpkg --configure -a just going to need locales again anyway? <<< no.
[07:03] <ForgeAus> I'll try it but isn't kubuntu-desktop going to complain that its missing?
[07:03] <_2> yes kubuntu-desktop will go missing
[07:03] <_2> along with most everything else.
[07:04] <_2> but you should still have enough to upgrade.   and thus enough to reinstall kubuntu-desktop after the upgrade
[07:04] <ForgeAus> had to reset....
[07:04] <ForgeAus> couldnt switch back with the alt+left/right thingy
[07:05] <_2> yeah kernel bugs are hard to do anything with.
[07:07] <nuxil> _2 do you know why the call it bugs?
[07:07] <_2> ForgeAus anyway to see what dpkg is doing when it hangs ?      are you talking on the same system ?
[07:07] <ForgeAus> ahh I think I can fix it
[07:07] <_2> nuxil first computer bug maybe ?
[07:08] <ForgeAus> menu.lst put the old kernel back in again :) all I gotta do is go into recovery mode of that one and get locales
[07:08] <nuxil> in the old days,. when computes was mainly radiotubes. they had problems at night with bughs flying in and chortcircte the radiotubes
[07:09] <nuxil> therefor they had to debug
[07:09] <nuxil> :)
[07:09] <ForgeAus> ahh I thought it was about coding...
[07:09] <_2> see wikipidia "first computer bug"
[07:09] <ForgeAus> I call coding bugging :), so you need to debug to get it to work :)
[07:10] <ForgeAus> - it fits with needing to decode the code :)...
[07:10] <_2> microsoft released a new bug    they call it vista
[07:11] <LoneShadow> has anyone installed liquid weather ?
[07:11] <_2> liquid weather   that would be rain  ?
[07:11] <_2> LoneShadow not i
[07:12] <Nyle> hey
[07:12] <Nyle> I installed firefox 32bit 3.0 version and it works good, all the plugins work too
[07:13] <_2> nuxil and better to call them bugs than to call them sharks  i guess...
[07:13] <Nyle> great tutotial
[07:13] <Nyle> ubuntu has nice documentation
[07:13] <_2> Nyle you running a k8 ?
[07:13] <Nyle> however, in the firefox I just installed, its not anti aliased, the fonts I mean.  All the fonts in other gnome apps are fine, just not in this
[07:13] <nuxil> _2 hehe
[07:14] <Nyle> in regular firefox 3.0 from ubuntu, the fonts are antialiased, but not in the firefox i installed manually for 32bit
[07:14] <Nyle> I am using core 2 duo, amd64 port
[07:14] <ForgeAus> yes!!! fixing it, its working
[07:15]  * _2 wonders what the differance is in k8 and amd64 ...    ;/
[07:15] <ForgeAus> locales worked straight away with the old kernel I must not have deleted it or it reinstalled it or something
[07:15] <ForgeAus> anyway old kernel back = proper dist-upgrade :)
[07:15] <Nyle> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=229010
[07:15] <ForgeAus> nless something else got screwed along the way
[07:17] <Nyle> I have a problem with Firefox32 font rendering... It renders non-antialiased ugly fonts, while Firefox64 renders them very good
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> _2: K8 is amd64 (athlon64/sempron)
[07:18] <_2> Daisuke_Ido i was being a problem child.   please don't spanke me for it!
[07:18] <_2> :)
[07:18] <Daisuke_Ido> heh
[07:19] <Daisuke_Ido> of course, amd had to confuse things by having ath64 in three different sockets
[07:22] <_2> Daisuke_Ido if you have the time you could see about nyle though.   i cna't help him.
[07:23] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm actually on my way to bed
[07:24] <Daisuke_Ido> plus i have no experience with running 32-bit apps on a 64 bit system
[07:25] <_2> k
[07:25] <_2> thanks.   rest well
[07:49] <ForgeAus> oh well I got back into my kubuntu desktop only one problem
[07:50] <ForgeAus> no network
[07:50] <ForgeAus> so I started a konsole and told it to dkpg --configure -a
[07:50] <ForgeAus> sofar hanging on network manager :(
[07:58] <ForgeAus> fixed :)
[07:59] <ForgeAus> cyall from konversation :)
[08:08] <spike_> isn't hardy meant to be kde4?
[08:09] <mase_slapt> spike_: there are kde 4.0 and kde4.1 packages for hardy
[08:09] <mase_slapt> but afaik the default version is 3.5.9
[08:09] <nuxil> spike_,  look at the topic
[08:09] <spike_> ahh ok thts where I'm at 3.5.9
[08:09] <spike_> so I'm ok
[08:09] <nuxil> yeah
[08:13] <spike_> grrr I hate that, kde4 support in #kubuntu-kde4 but nobody there talking :(
[08:17] <spike_> is there a way to turn off the big infotips (they look like a panel of their own with a "magic" effect when you mouse over anything on kicker) ?
[08:19] <mase_slapt> spike_: yes there is in kde3
[08:19] <mase_slapt> not sure about kde4
[08:19] <mase_slapt> i'm on kde4.1 atm
[08:24] <spike_> well it looks like the easy way is to install kubuntu-kde4-dekstop
[08:25] <spike_> I take it it gives you a second session option when you log in?
[08:26] <nuxil> yes'
[08:27] <spike_> awesome :)
[08:27] <lunch2> how to start two sessions at the same time? gnome and kde
[08:30] <nuxil> lunch2, not sure about that but if you press CTRL ALT F1 and type startx -- :1 you get a 2nd X server running,, guess its possible to get gnome working on it,
[08:30] <jussi01> hrm, since when did firefox use qt?
[08:30] <jussi01> jussi@jussi:~$ firefox
[08:30] <jussi01> Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries
[08:30] <lunch2> nuxil, that's what i been thinking, but i think need an app or service running
[08:31] <jussi01> !info xephyr
[08:31] <nuxil> lunch2, you need to make a startupscipt .
[08:31] <jussi01> !info xserver-xephyr
[08:31] <nuxil> normaly startx starts up wither gnome or kde.. depends on which DE you have as default
[08:33] <_2> ~/.dmrc
[08:34]  * _2 goes back to single word answers, sujestions, information posts...
[08:34] <nuxil> just addmit your just lazy :p
[08:37] <_2> compiled  !=  lazy
[08:37] <nuxil> lunch2, why do you want to run both kde and gnome
[08:38] <nuxil> compiled lazy :å
[08:38] <spike_> uh with gutsy upgraded to hardy should my ati binary driver still work? or do I need to do it the "hardy" way now?
[08:38] <spike_> (the install method is different)
[08:38] <spike_> (glxgears works tho hehe)
[08:38] <lunch2> nuxil, i am just swithing over to xfce, too use to gnome
[08:38] <lunch2> how to take screen shot in xfce forexample?
[08:38] <lunch2> how to display Date on desktop bar? which i just found out how.
[08:39] <lunch2> any many other things, i haven't come across
[08:39] <_2> lunch2 as per your first Q    gnome-session --display=':1'      or conversly  startkde --display=':1'  from gnome
[08:40] <lunch2> ok thanks _2
[08:40] <nexpo> hi
[08:40] <nuxil> hi
[08:40] <_2> ummm the equal sign may be bogus  try with/without
[08:42] <_2> lunch2 as per the date Q  kickers clock applet can display    time and/or date
[08:42] <lunch2> _2, i am runing 'orange clock'
[08:42] <_2> that assumes kde3   if kde4 you are in the wrong channel anyway
[08:43] <lunch2> _2, kickers clock is not default on ubuntu
[08:43] <lunch2> what's the clock that ubuntu use?
[08:45] <_2> you are talking about gnome  not "ubuntu"    ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu are all ubuntu but with different DE's  (desktop environments)   for help with gnome ask in #ubuntu
[08:46] <_2> sorry first was a Q         ^
[08:46] <_2> are you talking
[08:46] <spike_> gnomes clock is built into one of the panels at the top or bottom I can't remember wich, but its efinitely not kicker :)
[08:47] <_2> spike_ it's still just an applet.
[08:47] <_2> wedget applet *oid
[08:47] <spike_> kubuntu uses kde which uses kicker (I think in kde4 it has been renamed possibly kickstart or something)
[08:48] <lunch2> it's not biggy. i got 'orange clock' running. works fine
[08:50] <_2> lunch2 kde3 uses kicker.   kicker runs several applets amongst which is "/usr/bin/kclock.kss"  clock  in the list of applets that a right click add applets would show you.
[08:50] <_2> you can right click the clock applet and configure it to display only the date.
[08:51] <lunch2> _2, ok thx
[08:51] <_2> as per gnome   basicly the same thing.     the default setup you would have to unlock pannels first then configure/add/remove ...
[08:52] <_2> ok back to work...
[09:16] <nuxil> arr firefox eats up my memory
[09:19] <nuxil> let ff run for a couple of hours and it has consumed 500 MB of ram
[09:21] <ghettowhiteboy> I've got a fresh install of Kubuntu 8.04.1 but even though i have a NVidia RIVA TNT2 card that's capable of 32-bit and over 1600x1200@60Hz(the max my monitor will handle), linux installed the right drivers, but it's running at no more than 800x600@60Hz.  Can anyone help me? I've googled it and tried everything i could think of.  also I have a compaq qvision 2000 that does no more than 800x600 24-bit or 1280x1024 15-bit(which
[09:21] <ghettowhiteboy> doesn't display at all and for some reason is being seen as a Matrox Millennium II)
[09:36] <almog> hi there
[09:37] <almog> can someone help me install kde 4.1 packages on ubuntu 8.04?
[09:39] <almog> no one wants to help?
[09:39] <almog> tnx
[09:40] <mase_slapt> almog: there are kde4 packages
[09:40] <mase_slapt> almog: on the kde4.1 release page it lists mirrors for kde packages
[09:41] <mase_slapt> also should be on the kubuntu web page
[09:41] <mase_slapt> the instructions are there
[09:41] <almog> yea but for some reason i cant install kde-window-manager and because of that it doesnt let me install kde..
[09:42] <mase_slapt> well, do you have the reason?
[09:42] <mase_slapt> can you copy/ paste it here ?
[09:42] <almog> it sais that the package is broken
[09:46] <CostaRicanQuaker> how can i install kde 4 on my hardy?
[09:47] <almog> mase-skapt: sec ill copy and past the error
[09:48] <almog> Fetched 270MB in 12min32s (359kB/s)
[09:48] <almog> Extracting templates from packages: 100%
[09:48] <almog> Preconfiguring packages ...
[09:48] <almog> (Reading database ... 273903 files and directories currently installed.)
[09:48] <almog> Preparing to replace kde-icons-oxygen 4:4.0.3-0ubuntu2 (using .../kde-icons-oxygen_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1_all.deb) ...
[09:48] <almog> Unpacking replacement kde-icons-oxygen ...
[09:48] <almog> Unpacking kde-window-manager (from .../kde-window-manager_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_i386.deb) ...
[09:48] <almog> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[09:48] <almog>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/share/doc/kde4/HTML/en/kcontrol/kwindecoration/index.docbook', which is also in package kdebase-runtime-data
[09:48] <almog> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[09:48] <almog> Preparing to replace ksysguardd-kde4 4:4.0.3-0ubuntu2 (using .../ksysguardd-kde4_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_i386.deb) ...
[09:48] <almog> Unpacking replacement ksysguardd-kde4 ...
[09:48] <almog> Preparing to replace python2.5-dev 2.5.2-2ubuntu4 (using .../python2.5-dev_2.5.2-2ubuntu4.1_i386.deb) ...
[09:48] <almog> Unpacking replacement python2.5-dev ...
[09:48] <almog> Preparing to replace python2.5 2.5.2-2ubuntu4 (using .../python2.5_2.5.2-2ubuntu4.1_i386.deb) ...
[09:48] <almog> Unpacking replacement python2.5 ...
[09:48] <almog> Preparing to replace python2.5-minimal 2.5.2-2ubuntu4 (using .../python2.5-minimal_2.5.2-2ubuntu4.1_i386.deb) ...
[09:48] <almog> Unpacking replacement python2.5-minimal ...
[09:48] <almog> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:48] <almog>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.1.0-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa2_i386.deb
[09:48] <nuxil> almog
[09:48] <nuxil> almog
[09:48] <nuxil> almog
[09:48] <almog> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:48] <nuxil> almog
[09:48] <nuxil> almog
[09:48] <nuxil> almog
[09:48] <JohnFlux> almog: dude, wtf
[09:48] <almog> what?
[09:48] <almog> sory..
[09:48] <JohnFlux> almog: stop spamming
[09:48] <nuxil> stop that
[09:48] <CostaRicanQuaker> lmao
[09:48] <almog> i pasted the error massage..
[09:49] <JohnFlux> almog: well don't
[09:49] <JohnFlux> :P
[09:49] <_2> yeee haaaw
[09:49] <CostaRicanQuaker> how can i install kde 4 on mycomputer i think my hardy came with 3.5
[09:49] <JohnFlux> almog: the best way is to use a paste bin :-)
[09:49] <nuxil> use pastebin.com
[09:49] <milla> salve, buongiorno a tutti
[09:49] <nuxil> well he know how to get peoples attantion
[09:49] <nuxil> :p
[09:49] <_2> !kde4 | CostaRicanQuaker
[09:50] <almog> well see that..: http://pastebin.com/m43e680ff
[09:51] <_2> almog sudo rm  /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager* ;sudo apt-get install -f
[09:51] <almog> tnx ill try it asap...(now..)
[09:52] <CostaRicanQuaker> what was the command to open my sources list?
[09:52] <_2> !it
[09:52] <almog> it didnt work
[09:52] <_2> CostaRicanQuaker in hardy it's in the package manager.
[09:52] <CostaRicanQuaker> kdesu? /etc/sources.list
[09:52] <almog> got pritty much the same error
[09:53] <_2> CostaRicanQuaker you can still do it manually yes.    kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list    but you can use adept's menu also.
[09:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok
[09:53] <_2> almog pretty much ?
[09:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> so i go to adept and then type kde on search
[09:54] <_2> CostaRicanQuaker you go to adept edit your sources through adept   apply    fetch updates    install kde4
[09:54] <almog> 1st my english is not very good cuz it's not my native languege and 2nd ill paste it to pastebin and show you the error now
[09:55] <almog> http://pastebin.com/d473ab522
[09:55] <_2> almog ok, looking...
[09:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> _2: adept says i won't be able to modify anything when i open it, how do i change that for root? and how do i edit my sources from it
[09:57] <almog> CostaRicanQuaker: type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:58] <almog> now someone knows how to fix my problem?
[09:58] <_2> almog ok see line 25 of your paste.  i had you delete that package from your local cache, (and you did) and then on the retry it fetches it from the repository, (which it did) and the package still can't be unpacked correctly.   thus the answer is that that particular package on the archive you retireved it from "is broken."   either try a different mirror  or wait for them to patch it.
[09:59] <CostaRicanQuaker> almog: done, now what do i do? the sources list file is open...now what?
[09:59] <_2> !bug | almog
[09:59] <almog> wait
[09:59] <almog> so where can i find a diffrent mirror?
[10:00] <almog> i use now this mirror: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main
[10:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok i pasted that
[10:00] <_2> almog depends on what mirror you are using now.    try the nl.  or us.   maybe ?
[10:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> now what? there's an upgrade or update distro command right?
[10:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> i just pasted deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main
[10:03] <_2> almog and CostaRicanQuaker i think you should both take that particular line of Q. & A. to  #kubuntu-kde4   if the official repo has a broken package, chances are someone in there can help you + needs to know about it.
[10:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok
[10:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> i am just installing it now
[10:04] <korare> hi !!!!!!!!!
[10:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> it says some packages are
[10:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> cannot be authenticated
[10:04] <CostaRicanQuaker> yes?
[10:04] <korare> can i install beryl in my kubuntu
[10:04] <_2> i have nothing to do with packaging/development.   and any time a .deb can't be unpacked there is a broblem.
[10:05] <_2> !beryl
[10:05] <CostaRicanQuaker> _2: i take that as a yes
[10:06] <korare> can anybody tell where i could get some themes for kubuntu
[10:06] <korare> thanks
[10:06] <_2> CostaRicanQuaker if you mean answer yes to the package managers Q about the non-autnenticated package.  do that at your own risk.
[10:06] <korare> what about themes
[10:07] <_2> !themes | korare
[10:07] <CostaRicanQuaker> _2: what do you mean at my own risk? i just did it...what's the danger?
[10:07] <korare> k let me try
[10:09] <almog> nobody answers at #kubuntu-kde can someone tell me where to find a different mirror where i could download kubuntu kde 4.1?
[10:09] <_2> the dangers are a full range from  1. gpg key is out of date and nothing wrong with the package.  ... 99. someone has cracked the server the repo is on. and you are installing a full fledged root kit on your sustem.      more likely it's on the lower end of the scale.  but how do i know for sure.
[10:09] <_2> CostaRicanQuaker   ^
[10:09] <CostaRicanQuaker> wait
[10:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> i am installing this thing and i see
[10:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> the cr archive
[10:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> so it's getting it from the usual repo...that is costa rica server
[10:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> right'
[10:10] <_2> almog be patient in there.   that's the development branch   they may all be busy that are on line
[10:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> let me go to pastebin fro a moment
[10:11] <manuel__> morgen =)
[10:11] <_2> CostaRicanQuaker you asked a question.  i tried to answer it.  that's all i can do.
[10:11] <_2> guten tog manuel__
[10:12] <CostaRicanQuaker> 2_: here http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/33311/
[10:13] <_2> CostaRicanQuaker yeah and ?
[10:14] <CostaRicanQuaker> safe?
[10:14] <almog> yes its safe..
[10:15] <CostaRicanQuaker> great!
[10:15] <_2> they should have a gpg key for all that.   i don't know why it didn't fetch...     and again.   i can not say if it's safe or not.   it's "install at your own risk"  i have no way to know or even guess propperly.
[10:15] <_2> by the way. almog can't say if it's safe either     at least not with any authority.
[10:16] <almog> thats right..
[10:16] <francisjjp> one question: Does anyone knows if "fontforge" software export "raw bits" bytes of different fonts from one ttf?
[10:16] <_2> !worksforme | almog
[10:16] <francisjjp> it is for one microcontroller program with lcd
[10:17] <_2> francisjjp good luck getting an answer for any high tech Q in any *buntu channel.    timming is everything on that.   and this is the "off hour"
[10:18] <almog> i know that if it works for me it isnt meen it's stable... but he asked if it's safe, not if it's stable and i think (i dont know for sure) that it's safe
[10:19] <_2> francisjjp  about half a taracycle from now   would be a good time.
[10:20] <francisjjp> i dont understand
[10:20] <_2> 12 hours
[10:36] <cime> is the newest version of Kubuntu with KDE4 usable, or is it like the old one broken (icons not working.....) ?
[10:40] <amerigo> ! counter
[10:43] <mezzo> servus
[10:44] <_2> !de
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[10:46] <_2> ActionParsnip
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> stupid kernel upgrade borking my nvidia drivers :(
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> grrrr
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> is there anything more annoying?
[10:51] <graham> Hi all. I'm trying out Kubuntu Intrepid. Kmix does not appear in the systray, and it appears I can't change the volume. Any pointers on what I should start looking at to see if I can fix it?
[10:51] <_2> yes.
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> graham: kmix &
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> graham: and put a symlink in ~/.kde/Autostart
[10:52] <_2> ActionParsnip my nvidia card is not supported
[10:52] <graham> thanks ActionParshnip. will try that.
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> graham: you might also wanna put one in ~/.kde4/share/Autostart
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> _2: oh man, thats harsh. grab a new one for pence :D
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> _2: what you got?
[10:53] <_2> riva128
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> thats a sweet card :D
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> I used to have tnt2 ultra 32mb
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> POWER!!
[10:54] <_2> doesn't really need a 3d dirrect rendering    but it would be nice if it was supported
[10:55] <_2> i also have a box with a broken ati card in it.   but it's headless so that is moot
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> _2: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/virtual/xf86-video-driver-riva128
[10:55] <_2> and by "broken" i mean peaces missing.
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> wow that really broken
[10:56] <_2> yeah
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> is that package any good to you?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> just found it
[10:56] <_2> looking.
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> well im gonna reboot, bbrs
[10:57] <_2> na it just points at xserver-xorg-driver-nv   heh.
[11:00] <_2> that link is more of a "rub your nose in it" than anything else.    it's like "we know your card is not supported, but if you want to act like it is you can install this 'dummy' package and brag about it..."   har har har
[11:03] <hrl> bonjour
[11:03] <_2> !fr
[11:03] <_2> and howdy .
[11:44] <andre_> Hi
[11:45] <andre_> Did anyone manage to use the internet-install option for plasmoids yet?
[11:45] <andre_> If so: what magic incantation would I need to use?
[11:46] <mark_> never have, sorry
[11:47] <mark_> im tyring ti figure out how set plasmoids only in the dashboard - coming up empty :/
[11:47] <andre_> Pitty... It looks like there are some interesting plasmoids available through the internet install option, but I don't see how to actually get them :S
[11:47] <mark_> there are a few more in plasma-extragear though ( i think that's the right name)
[11:50] <andre_> I know, but when you try to install them, adept insists on *un*installing another package with plasmoids...
[11:50] <mark_> what are you onj 4.1?
[11:52] <andre_> Yes, I am on 4.1
[11:52] <andre_> I followed the guide on the Kubuntu frontpage
[11:52] <mark_> that's really odd. packaging bug maybe? :/
[11:53] <andre_> Maybe...
[11:54] <mark_> i just tried the internet install too btw
[11:55] <mark_> didnt seem to do much for me either
[11:55] <andre_> If I want to isntall extragear-plasma, I have to uninstall kdeplasma-addons and vise versa
[11:55] <mark_> hmmm. is this a first kde4 install?
[11:55] <Dekans> don't think so
[11:56] <andre_> @mark_: what do you mean? It is the first time I have installed KDE 4, yes
[11:56] <Dekans> andre_: try, you will see if the installer ask you to remove it
[11:57] <mark_> ahh, well i have had problems with apt picking up older kde4 packages before
[11:57] <andre_> Dekans: Yes, Adept puts the kdeplasma-addons as "uninstall" if I select to install extragear-plasma
[11:57] <mark_> so i thought id ask
[11:57] <andre_> k.
[11:57] <Dekans> andre_: you have your answear :)
[11:58] <Dekans> answer*
[11:58] <andre_> Dekans: No, I don't. I had already noticed that Adept wanted to do that, but the question I had is how to get those extra plasmoids in the first place. Why are these packages mutually exclusive?
[11:59] <mark_> they could be mutually exclusive due on going changes... kubuntu paackages have been dodgy for me in the past
[12:00] <mark_> kde4 ones at any rate
[12:00] <mark_> *due to
[12:00] <andre_> Yeah, maybe I should be more patient and wait untill things settle down a little...
[12:00] <andre_> Or compile from source, of course :S
[12:01] <mark_> let me look and see what packages i have installed andre
[12:02] <andre_> mark_:ok. Sure. Thanks for your help so far :-)
[12:04] <mark_> ahh okay it looks like extragear is probably the outdated package
[12:05] <andre_> k. So the kdeplasma-addons should be the replacement of the extragear package, you think?
[12:05] <mark_> if you have kdeplasma-addons then you probably have all the packaged plasmoids. that's the only package i have installed
[12:05] <squirrel333AU> New dude here using Ubuntu for a few days now, all OK except today I upgraded formware on my router and can not get access to certain website, all OK in Windows, any ideas?
[12:06] <mark_> yeah, most likely id say. which do you have installed
[12:07] <andre_> I currently have the kdeplasma-addons package installed, not the extragear-plasma package.
[12:07] <andre_> I am reporting a bug for the not-functioning Get Hot New Stuff at the moment, by the way
[12:07] <mark_> then i say leave it as it is :) I've broken my kde4 install before by trying to install other packages
[12:08] <mark_> ah excellent. yeah, it doesnt work here either. it marks as installed, but doesnt show up in the add plasmoid menu
[12:08] <Guest42087> Bonjour :<))
[12:09] <andre_> I'll send the link to the bug, so you can confirm it ;-)
[12:10] <mark_> cheers thanks, man
[12:11] <andre_> Thanks to you too.
[12:17] <andre_> mark_: the bug number is  Bug 254184
[12:18] <andre_> Cool feature, the ubottu automatically adding a link for the bug!
[12:18] <mark_> superb ubottu :)
[12:18] <lunch> how to disable sound server/services from starting?
[12:18] <mark_> oh.. bot haha
[12:19] <mark_> then ty andre lol
[12:19] <andre_> ?
[12:20] <mark_> for filing the bug
[12:20] <Dekans> lunch: you can configure services in kcontrol
[12:20] <andre_> ty -> "thank you" I guess?
[12:21] <mark_> oh yes, sorry
[12:22] <andre_> OK. Next stop: figuring out how to get my old KDE3 settings to my shiny new KDE 4 applications...
[12:22] <andre_> I'll try http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDE3TO4?content=85 to start with...
[12:22] <Dekans> try mv .kde .kde4 in your home
[12:22] <Farmer> hey
[12:23] <Dekans> andre_: cp instead of mv
[12:23] <Dekans> I'm pretty sure it doesn't work :p
[12:23] <andre_> That sounds... encouraging...
[12:24] <tackat> CMake Error at /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindAutomoc4.cmake:53 (message):
[12:24] <tackat>   Did not find automoc4 (part of kdesupport).
[12:24] <tackat> Call Stack (most recent call first):
[12:24] <tackat>   /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake:263 (find_package)
[12:24] <tackat>   /usr/share/cmake-2.6/Modules/FindKDE4.cmake:69 (FIND_PACKAGE)
[12:24] <tackat>   CMakeLists.txt:178 (find_package)
[12:24] <Farmer> I just got myself a brand new computer and I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers, I've tried the "official guide" enabling them in "hardware drivers manager" the problem there is that there are no options in that manager
[12:24] <Farmer> running a 9600gt card
[12:25] <_dennister> gm channel....having great difficulties configuring this system (for a blind user) so that x doesn't load at boot...would anyone be able to help me with these runlevels and stuff?  wading thru all the documentation hasn't helped...still stumped
[12:25] <tackat> So why do I get this crap after doing "apt-get upgrade"?
[12:26] <lunch> Dekans, disable sound in kcontrol, will work for all X desktop? want to disable sound right after console start, before X system
[12:27] <vczcdfad> hi there, i need some help with mounting a usb thumb drive.. i tried mount /dev/sdb /media/thumbdrive -t usbfs  all i can see is 001 002 003 004 directories
[12:27] <vczcdfad> why
[12:27] <vczcdfad> if i use vfat or others, it doesn't work
[12:28] <vczcdfad> i suspect my thumbdrive is faulty..but it still can be detected as /dev/sdb, what's the cmd to try to fix the drive?
[12:28] <vczcdfad> fsck?
[12:28] <lunch> Dekans, it feels like my system now runs slightly faster after disabling sound
[12:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> kde 4 rules
[12:40] <flaccid> nuxil: how did you go?
[12:40] <nuxil> hi firephoto i figured it out ;)
[12:41] <nuxil> flaccid,
[12:41] <nuxil> sory about that :p
[12:42] <nuxil> if you where thinking of the locals problem i had
[12:42] <flaccid> yeah you said you figured it out or something
[12:42] <lunch> how to set nm-applet to default to a wireless ssid?
[12:44] <nuxil> flaccid, but all my work was for nothing. i was thinking of writing plugins that autojoins you to the channel of you contry,, but i gave up becuase konversation doesnt support plugins.. i have a 1/2 finished python plugin for xchat thou.
[12:46] <flaccid> konversation does support scripting however
[12:46] <nuxil> flaccid, genii game the idea after 10 people where joining this channel and speaking espaniol or other strange language we could not understand
[12:46] <nuxil> *game gave
[12:46] <nuxil> oh, maybe all hope isnt lost after all
[12:47] <flaccid> whats the logic to work out which country?
[12:47] <_dennister> can someone recommend a good, fairly in-depth grub tutorial? I need to learn some of the more advanced options like Zen, automagic, etc
[12:47] <nuxil> lemme paste the plugin.. and you can take a look.. but its far from finished tho..
[12:48] <flaccid> ok
[12:49] <nuxil> http://pastebin.com/m7da5909c
[12:49] <nuxil> its simple
[12:49] <lokpest> why do kubuntu use OOo and not Koffice?
[12:50] <nuxil> flaccid, try it if your on xchat
[12:50] <nuxil> just put it in ~/.xchat2
[12:52] <flaccid> hmm not sure if i can be bothered. i guess to implement it properly with konversation, you would really need to add functionality to konv server list
[12:53] <nuxil> yeah. i know, i was speaking to konversation devs.. they have planns on adding plugin support for it,, but they dont know when and dont know which language they will suppport
[12:55] <cojack> hello
[12:55] <cojack> I have problem with my kde
[12:55] <cojack> I don't have CC -> A & T -> Splash screen
[12:56] <cojack> Splash screen...
[12:56] <cojack> they some one can help me?
[12:56] <cojack> any body here?
[12:57] <cojack> and at last the kdmtheme doesn't work!
[12:57] <nuxil> sorry, i dont use that, wait and someone might answer you
[13:11] <gianluca> someone know how to run Jiwire on ubuntu skype for find hotspot ?
[13:12] <gianluca> or if somone can conseil me a good hotspot finder for ubuntu?
[13:13] <nuxil> !Jiwire
[13:13] <nuxil> !info Jiwire
[13:13] <seria-mau> hi
[13:14] <seria-mau> is this channel for feedback onto kde 4.1 packages?
[13:14] <seria-mau> oh
[13:14] <seria-mau> no
[13:14] <seria-mau> sorry
[13:14] <nuxil> !kde4
[13:16] <The-Compiler> Can I simulate an app to run under Gnome? Because I'm under KDE and Teeworlds strangely only runs under Gnome
[13:17] <tomi> ubottu are the packages version specific? If I`d like to find something is it possible i wont find it for hardy but it exist for earlier version? ()a beginner
[13:18] <tomi> hoppp... Ayone else... can somebody help me?
[13:31] <flaccid> can anyone recommend teamspeak or mumble <-- which one is better?
[13:32] <nuxil> i never tried mumble. but i have had good experiance with teamspeaker. both server and client
[13:32] <nuxil> never been any issues
[13:35] <flaccid> ok i might try teamspeak server first
[13:37] <flaccid> hmm mumble looks more open ah well
[13:39] <nuxil> is mumble open source ?
[13:41] <flaccid> yep
[13:42] <flaccid> ventrilo under wine just doesn't cut it..
[13:44] <nuxil> they say ventrilo is the best.. to bad it isnt under linux. but i dont blame them.. its been mostly used for games.. which linux has few off
[13:46] <flaccid> nuxil: there is linux server and the client is in dev atm, but the free version is limited so you need pro. its merely limited free beer. a lot of people play WoW under linux if they can..
[13:47] <nuxil> wow. not my type of game :p
[13:47]  * nuxil likes arma
[13:47] <nuxil> flaccid, yea.. but most of ther donation i guess comes from windows users
[13:48] <sebastian_> how can i make my extern harddrive automount at boot, its usb.
[13:48] <nuxil> so im supprised they hava a linux version at all
[13:48] <nuxil> sebastian_, yes
[13:48] <nuxil> !fstab
[13:49] <nuxil> !automount
[13:49] <flaccid> i don't play wow either. i play wolf et if anything. ventrilo doesn't take donations it sells ventrilo pro..
[13:49] <nuxil> oh.. one more reson not to get it
[13:50] <flaccid> yeah
[13:51] <flaccid> the server and client are well designed and easy to set up however
[13:54] <sebastian_> how do i found out what the name of my harddrive is when its not mounted?
[13:55] <flaccid> sebastian_: name?
[13:55] <flaccid> i suggest using disks & filesystems in system settings, sebastian_
[13:56] <nuxil> sebastian_, i dont understand why you want to do this.. start up kde. plug in the disk.. and it should appare on the desk.. thats what my disk does
[13:56] <sebastian_> ya but i have to replug it every time
[13:57] <nuxil> ?
[13:58] <sebastian_> when  i start it dont detekt it so i have to plug out the power and then plug it so it can detect it
[13:58] <flaccid> sebastian_: should be able to click on it storage media and it will mount if it isn't already. otherwise you can enable it in disks & filesystems permanently or edit fstab yourself
[13:59] <flaccid> thats weird. sebastian_ you can check sudo fdisk -l to see if its detected before the re-plug..
[14:02] <sebastian_> where is disks &filesystems?
[14:04] <flaccid> [22:55] <flaccid> i suggest using disks & filesystems in system settings, sebastian_
[14:05] <sebastian_> theres no such thing in my system settings
[14:06] <flaccid> sebastian_: which kubuntu version?
[14:07] <sebastian_> d.1
[14:07] <sebastian_> 4.1
[14:07] <sebastian_> hardy 8.04
[14:07] <flaccid> sebastian_: kde 4.1. wrong channel for kde4 support, see topic. nevertheless it is in 8.04 kde3 or kde4
[14:08] <flaccid> (try the advanced tab)
[14:08] <miffed> I need to run a few commands as super user in a script, do scripts run as super user level anyways or would i need to invoke it in the script/
[14:08] <sebastian_> its kubuntu and this is kubuntu
[14:09] <nuxil> sebastian_, read the topic
[14:09] <flaccid> sebastian_: read the topic.
[14:09] <flaccid> miffed: run under root or use su -c in the script (has to be interactive)
[14:10] <nuxil> that can be anoying. he prolly just want to sudo ./script
[14:11] <miffed> flaccid: by interactive you mean I cannot run it under cron, it needs me to confirm something?
[14:11] <sebastian_> sorry didnt see that
[14:11] <flaccid> indeed thats why scripts are meant to be run under users that have the right perms for the actions in the scripts
[14:11] <flaccid> miffed: su -c will ask for root pass, you cannot provide the pass as a param in plain text..
[14:12] <miffed> k
[14:12] <flaccid> so it won't work in cron. it will run but sit at the passwd prompt..
[14:12] <nuxil> unless he makes a expect script
[14:12] <flaccid> excpect script?
[14:12] <nuxil> yea..
[14:13] <flaccid> whats that
[14:13] <nuxil> you can make it send passwords for a cli or whatever..
[14:13] <miffed> so if I use cron.daily then it possible without interaction and will run with correct privileges?
[14:13] <miffed> drop the script in that folder?
[14:14] <nuxil> flaccid,  expect -> A program that can automate interactive applications
[14:15] <flaccid> coolio
[14:15] <flaccid> miffed: run it under system cron and you won't need to elevate at all. this can be cron.daily yes
[14:34] <nuxil> flaccid, just got some news.. konvi will get python plugin support
[14:37] <flaccid> nuxil: thats awesome
[14:37] <nuxil> thats what i also think
 FWIW, we have Python fans in the team so yes Konvi will get Python plugin support
[14:37] <nuxil> :)
[14:37] <flaccid> ah good ol Sho... cool
[14:42] <contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[14:43] <contrast83> Is anyone here using something other than NetworkManager for their wireless connection that could point me in the direction of how to set it up?
[14:44] <nuxil> wep or wap
[14:44] <contrast83> nuxil: Neither - I just use MAC address filtering for my network.
[14:44] <nuxil> omg.. contrast83 thats just plain stupid..
[14:44] <nuxil> do you know how easy it is to spoof a mac ?
[14:45] <contrast83> nuxil: Yeah, but how would they know the mac to spoof?
[14:45] <contrast83> Oh, umm... Brute force, eh?
[14:45] <nuxil> contrast83,  kismet
[14:45] <nuxil> airodump
[14:45] <nuxil> tcpdump
[14:46] <nuxil> the list is long
[14:46] <contrast83> I see... Well, thanks for the info.
[14:46] <nuxil> then i can just ifconfig ethx hw ether youmac
[14:46] <contrast83> You wouldn't know which of WEP or WPA works better on a Realtek, would you? :-)
[14:47] <nuxil> wap is more secure
[14:47] <contrast83> Right, but don't a lot of cards' drivers not support that under Linux?
[14:48] <nuxil> you are prolly talking about cars that use ndiswrapper
[14:48] <nuxil> *cards
[14:48] <nuxil> contrast83, anyway. iwconfig ethX essid yournetname < connect from concole
[14:49] <reidar> for firestarter, would i need to do anything more then just run it and im protected?
[14:50] <contrast83> Doesn't /etc/network/interfaces need to be set up for with wireless-tools instead of networkmanager for that to work though?
[14:52] <nuxil> contrast83,i dont understand what you mean.. but  if you do ifdown Wlan then kill dhclient . now put up your wlan with ifconfig. next use iwconfig .. then finaly use dhclient
[14:53] <nuxil> thats the concole way
[14:53] <contrast83> Got cha... Well, I'm actually setting this up for a console-phobic friend. You know if KWifiManager can handle all that?
[14:53] <tavi> anione from romania here?
[14:54] <bazhang> !ro
[14:54] <nuxil> contrast83, it should
[14:54] <tavi> ok
[14:54] <tavi> care esti din romania poti intra pe privat
[14:54] <nuxil> du te drako :p
[14:55] <tavi> mda
[14:55] <tavi> foarte primitor
[14:55] <nuxil> only romanian word i can.. dont know if its spelled right..
[14:55] <contrast83> nuxil: Cool... So to keep network-manager from running at start up, just uninstall it, then run those commands you said, right?
[14:55] <tavi> that's a swear....
[14:55] <tavi> never called again
[14:55] <nuxil> oh.. tavi sorry
[14:55] <tavi> :)
[14:56] <tavi> i do not know where from you learned
[14:56] <nuxil> something i picked up on the way
[14:56] <tavi> hah
[14:57] <tavi> ask before copy something
[14:57] <nuxil> contrast83, why isnt knetworkmanager good enough?
[14:57] <nuxil> tavi, :)
[14:57] <tavi> well tell me whi ksirc don't work on my ubuntu
[14:57] <tavi> ?
[14:58] <contrast83> nuxil: It always loses the connection, and the only way to get it back is un/reloading the module for the wireless card, then restarting dbus.
[14:58] <nuxil> oh., that sound bad
[14:59] <nuxil> tavi, no one can help you. unless you tell us some errors it produces
[14:59] <tavi> nothing
[14:59] <tavi> i click on it
[14:59] <tavi> and don't start
[14:59] <contrast83> tavi: run "ksirc" from Konsole
[14:59] <nuxil> contrast83, you can try that,, you can always reinstall network manager if all fails
[14:59] <tavi> mean terminal
[15:00] <tavi> ?
[15:00] <contrast83> Right... Well thanks. I'm off to give it a shot.
[15:00] <nuxil> yes
[15:00] <contrast83> tavi: right
[15:00] <tavi> run command not found
[15:00] <tavi> what's the command ?
[15:00] <contrast83> ksirc
[15:00] <tavi> no
[15:01] <tavi> what the comand to rin it
[15:01] <tavi> run
[15:01] <tavi> cause run don't work
[15:01] <tavi> say bad comand
[15:01] <nuxil> right click on the icon and look at the command
[15:01] <nuxil> in edit
[15:01] <tavi> say what?
[15:01] <nuxil> never mind
[15:02] <tavi> i do not have him on desktop
[15:02] <tavi> it's in applications internet ksirc
[15:02] <nuxil> but in the menus.. but surly someone has it installed and can tell you
[15:03]  * nuxil only uses xchat
[15:03] <nuxil> xchat > ( konversation & ksirc) :p
[15:04] <tavi> that doesn't work too
[15:04] <tavi> his windows apear on the bar down
[15:04] <tavi> and disapear
[15:05] <nuxil> locate ksirc,
[15:05] <nuxil> might need to sudo updatedb  first
[15:06] <tavi> locate mean find his file ? in /home ?
[15:06] <ubunturos> konversation works better for me than Ksirc, (though both of them are pretty similar to each other)
[15:07] <nuxil> tavi, locate search a database for matches.
[15:07] <contrast83> nuxil: All of the if... commands just said the device wasn't configured. I went to the Network Settings module in KControl, which said the devices were disabled...
[15:08] <ubunturos> does, apt-cache search from a local list (and update the list when one issues an apt-get update?)
[15:08] <contrast83> nuxil: ...and when I tried to enable them, it said it couldn't parse the XML information from the networking backend (or something to that effect). Wouldn't that be because /etc/network/interfaces is still set up for network-manager (i.e., it's empty except for the lines for the loopback device)?
[15:09] <tavi> well i searched
[15:09] <nuxil> contrast83, i'll pm you
[15:09] <tavi> and finded 55 files
[15:09] <tavi> search in terminal
[15:09] <tavi> ?
[15:09] <tavi> not using search function
[15:09] <tavi> ?
[15:11] <tavi> and this is kubuntu?
[15:11] <tavi> i have a gnome ubuntu
[15:12] <nuxil> tavi, if i have ksirc i would try to help you more.. but i dont use it
[15:14] <tavi> ok
[15:14] <tavi> no offense
[15:14] <tavi> on unbuntu-ro noone answer...
[15:14] <ubunturos> tavi: ah, post your queries to #ubuntu
[15:14] <nuxil> tavi, if your on ubuntu.. you should use xchat3
[15:14] <nuxil> -1'
[15:15] <tavi> what's that
[15:16] <tavi> i have xchat
[15:16] <tavi> not xhat3
[15:16] <tavi> but don't work
[15:16] <tavi> like i said
[15:16] <ubunturos> tavi: heard of irssi ?
[15:17] <tavi> never heard
[15:17] <ubunturos> !irssi | tavi
[15:17] <tavi> i'm a ...well i don't know linux
[15:17] <ubunturos> tavi: that's okay! You'll learn a lot while you discover and work with GNU, Linux and more :)
[15:19] <kirk> Hey everyone...
[15:20] <ubunturos> !hi | kirk,
[15:20] <kirk> Anyone around know much about getting xp to boot from the grub menu?
[15:27] <kirk> NO? what about any recovery tools for linux? i have a 500gb external hd with data i'd hate to lose but it seems corrupt
[15:27] <ubunturos> kirk: what grub error do you see, when you try to boot Windows from grub?
[15:27] <makdaknife> kirk: what do you want to know about booting xp from grub?
[15:28] <makdaknife> kirk: what format is the external hd?
[15:29] <kirk> ext3
[15:29] <kirk> can't seem to get it boot from the grub. fails to load NTLDR
[15:30] <makdaknife> kirk: for data recovery (I've never used it, but a friend swears by it) use photorec.. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[15:30] <kirk> i have 2 hard drives, one kubuntu, one xp, one external that became corrupt and unreadable
[15:31] <makdaknife> it was originally designed to recover photos but works for all files
[15:31] <kirk> 3*
[15:31] <makdaknife> apparently it works a treat
[15:31] <kirk> ill give it a shot
[15:32] <kirk> i have about 100 full iso dvds backed up on there
[15:32] <makdaknife> I used to use R-TT's R-Studio to do file recovery... its pretty good, but only runs on windows and is commercial software
[15:33] <makdaknife> a friend told me about photorec recently and said that it rocked
[15:33] <kirk> i figured if i can get booted into windows i can find some kinda data recovery tools
[15:35] <kirk> even when i load the boot menu from the initial startup screen and boot from my hard drive with xp it still loads the grub menu
[15:35] <makdaknife> kirk: I'm not sure if I can help you with the windows xp grub problem, I quit dual booting about 6 years back... if I need to use windows nowadays I do it using Virtualbox
[15:36] <kirk> k.  thanks. im gonna try out photorec
[15:38] <makdaknife> kirk: i believe that the problem with windows xp and grub is that you need to use chainloading... have a look at this thread and see if you can make any sense: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/grub-chain-loading-problem-582915/
[15:40] <petgrill> hi i need to connect 2 pcs to the internet and i have one modem and no switch or hub
[15:40] <petgrill> but
[15:41] <petgrill> i have 2 ethernet plugs ont he one
[15:41] <petgrill> on asus p5b deluxe
[15:41] <petgrill> can anyone help me?
[15:41] <ubunturos> petgrill: ADSL?
[15:41] <petgrill> yes
[15:41] <unknown_> xx
[15:42] <ubunturos> petgrill: you, don't have a USB port on that modem / router (ADSL2+ ?)
[15:42] <petgrill> no
[15:42] <petgrill> only ethernet
[15:42] <petgrill> exit
[15:43] <petgrill> i have one modem with ethernet and usb but it doesn't load many pages
[15:43] <ubunturos> petgrill: surprising. You would, afaik, need some port, to physically connect the two pcs
[15:43] <petgrill> my motherboard has 2 ports
[15:43] <petgrill> 1 to the modem
[15:44] <petgrill> and one to the other pc
[15:44] <ubunturos> petgrill: 2 ethernet ports?
[15:44] <petgrill> yes
[15:44] <petgrill> asus p5b
[15:44] <petgrill> deluxe3
[15:44] <petgrill> deluxe*
[15:44] <ubunturos> petgrill: You could possibly run a 'proxy' server on one machine, and configure the other's browser to access internet
[15:45] <petgrill> hmmm
[15:45] <petgrill> how can i do that?
[15:45] <petgrill> i am noob
[15:46] <ubunturos> petgrill: so, if you are running Kubuntu on the host (internet) machine
[15:46] <ubunturos> petgrill: install, squid
[15:46] <ubunturos> !squid | petgrill
[15:47] <petgrill> the second pc runs on windows
[15:47] <petgrill> xp
[15:48] <ubunturos> petgrill: shouldn't be a problem
[15:48] <petgrill> ok ill try that :)
[15:48] <petgrill> thnk you
[15:49] <ubunturos> petgrill: irrespective of the OS. You need to configure your browser to access internet through a port and the IP address of this host (internet) machine
[15:50] <petgrill> i have to do the same for messenger on client machine too?
[15:53] <ubunturos> petgrill: no, just on the host machine, where you have the internet directly connected through the modem
[15:54] <petgrill> thnx going to try it
[15:58] <aditya_> Hello All
[15:58] <aditya_> Hi kreib
[16:01] <wiehan> I need serious help in ubuntu; ok this is a kubuntu  channel, just help me get to an ubuntu channel, I feel like a complte IRC n00b
[16:04] <wiehan> hey
[16:04] <aditya_> hey wiehan
[16:05] <wiehan> I need serious help in ubuntu; ok this is a kubuntu  channel, just help me get to an ubuntu channel, I feel like a complte IRC n00b
[16:05] <whyhankee> wiehan: please join #ubuntu then
[16:05] <wiehan> or do you folks feel helpful today?
[16:06] <czarny> polska
[16:06] <czarny> jest tu ktoś :P
[16:07] <czarny> hello people
[16:08] <czarny> fuck windows....
[16:08] <cadoo> !pl
[16:20] <DexterF> hi
[16:20] <DexterF> !dvd
[16:20] <DexterF> meh.
[16:20] <DexterF> is there no DVD of 8.04.1?
[16:20] <arty_> hi all
[16:20] <arty_> pls help
[16:21] <arty_> how tu mount ISO file in Kubuntu
[16:21] <arty_> some tutorial for lama :)
[16:21] <DexterF> arty_: sudo mount -o loop <iso> <mount point>
[16:21] <arty_> DexterF: some exemple pls :)
[16:21] <korare> hiiiiiiiii
[16:21] <DexterF> arty_: what?
[16:21] <arty_> example
[16:21] <korare> how make calls to my friend using pidgin messenger
[16:22] <DexterF> dude I just gave you the command in plain text
[16:22] <arty_> DexterF: work mount if is ISO file in SMB server?
[16:22] <DexterF> arty_: sure
[16:22] <arty_> thx
[16:23] <korare> can anybody help me!!!!!!!! how to make calls to my friend using pidgin messenger
[16:23] <arty_> i try
[16:25] <arty_> DexterF:
[16:25] <arty_> arty@Erika2:~$ sudo mount -o loop smb://192.168.1.17/data/SOFTWARE/!OFFICE!/Microsoft Office 2007 Enterprise SK/Microsoft Office 2007 Enterprise SK.iso /home/arty/aaa/
[16:25] <arty_> bash: !OFFICE!/Microsoft: event not found
[16:25] <arty_> arty@Erika2:~$
[16:25] <DexterF> korare: 1. patience. 2. more onfo about what you wanna do. protocol type for example.
[16:26] <DexterF> arty_: ah, ok - you will have to mount the SMB share on your local machine first. after all, smb:// is a KDE thing and won't work in a terminal.
[16:26] <arty_> so I must download to me pc
[16:26] <korare> i am using  pidgin messenger
[16:27] <korare> now i want to make calls like how i do in yahoo messenger
[16:27] <DexterF> arty_: not really. make a mount point like /mnt/server or whatever you like and mount the smb share there. like mount -t smb... uh.. heh. I haven't used smb in ages... can someone help out?
[16:28] <DexterF> korare: I don't know yahoo msgr. "calls" like phone calls? voice?
[16:29] <arty_> and next question why dont work if i push ALT + TAB
[16:29] <arty_> I us compiz and I dont know where i trn off :(
[16:29] <arty_> turn
[16:30] <DexterF> arty_: sudo mount -t smb -o username=<user>,password=<pwd> //192.168.1.17/data /mnt/server
[16:30] <DexterF> arty_: that should mount your smb share. then loop-mount the iso from /mnt/server/whereever
[16:31] <DexterF> no clue about compiz
[16:32] <arty_> DexterF: i download to
[16:32] <arty_> arty@Erika2:~$ sudo mount -o loop /home/arty/aaa/ /home/arty/aaa/
[16:32] <arty_> /home/arty/aaa: Is a directory
[16:32] <DexterF> arty_: and the password option requires the passwd in plain text, so if you need to play safe, read on man mount about credentiels
[16:33] <DexterF> that command is bogus. why mount /home/arty/aaa/ to /home/arty/aaa/ ?
[16:33] <arty_> DexterF: where I must mount
[16:33] <arty_> some example pls
[16:33] <DexterF> i need to wander off for a moment, get the server share mounted locally like I told you a few lines up. brb.
[16:34] <arty_> DexterF: thx i will try
[16:37] <arty_> je tu niekto slovak?
[16:42] <inteliwasp> how can i make a desktop shortcut run arguments?
[16:43] <VaSy> hi
[16:43] <VaSy> friends
[17:00] <inteliwasp> how can i make a desktop shortcut run command line arguments?
[17:03] <nuxil> inteliwasp, make a script.. and make a shortcut to the scriot
[17:03]  * inteliwasp mutters to himself "why did i  not think of that...
[17:04] <nuxil> rememer to set +x on the file
[17:04] <VaSy> hi
[17:04]  * nuxil goes to eat
[17:06] <Slaughter0us> exite un canal de ayuda para el kubuntu aqui en el IRc?
[17:06] <laradji> hi
[17:06] <laradji> do you have some problem with filters and kmail kde4 ?
[17:06] <laradji> i go to the kde4 channel :)
[17:07] <Slaughter0us> speak spanish?
[17:17] <mortici> quick question, for some reason my num lock key doens't stay on when i boot up, or login to KDE?
[17:17] <mortici> is there a way to force it thorugh
[17:33] <anger> Agluém ai usa o Kurumin NG?
[17:35] <anger> All right...Somebody here uses Kurumin NG?
[17:35] <Maeva> when i boot Klipper gives an error everytime "home/.kde4/share/config/klipperrc" not writable
[17:39] <contrast83> nuxil: you around?
[17:45] <contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[17:46] <contrast83> I just followed this guide - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=493958 - to get my wireless card working properly. Now I'd just like to know how to get the lappy to automatically switch to the wired connection when an ethernet cable gets plugged in. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[17:48] <RocciaMax> Cia' tutti
[17:49] <francesco> !it
[17:49] <RocciaMax> Uh... ok
[17:52] <yacc> Just wondering, anyone got an idea what might be broken => I've got no X11 cursor, even on the kdm screen :(
[17:53] <yacc> The only thing saving currently my ass is that I've got a correctly calibrated touch screen, but that's not perfect.
[17:53] <contrast83> yacc: I ran into that issue a couple weeks ago. I *believe* just running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" and restarting X fixed it.
[17:54] <oscar__> español
[17:54] <yacc> -phigh?
[17:55] <yacc> contrast83, well, I did run dpkg-reconfigure without -phigh already ;(
[17:55] <oscar__> españoll
[17:55] <oscar__> !!
[17:55] <contrast83> IIRC, that just tells it to use the default settings - it doesn't take you through the setup questions.
[17:55] <contrast83> yacc: You can go ahead and try again with the options, won't hurt anything.
[17:55] <nuxil> contrast83, yes im here
[17:55] <contrast83> yacc: What card/driver?
[17:56] <contrast83> nuxil: Hey, thanks again. I followed that guide, so far so good.
[17:56] <yacc> contrast83, nv nvidia 6150 go.
[17:56] <contrast83> nuxil: Did you see the question I asked after checking if you were here?
[17:56] <nuxil> let me scroll up a bit
[17:57] <contrast83> yacc: Ok... You should be fine then, I *think*.
[17:57] <oscar__> ESPAÑOL
[17:57] <contrast83> nuxil: I just followed this guide - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=493958 - to get my wireless card working properly. Now I'd just like to know how to get the lappy to automatically switch to the wired connection when an ethernet cable gets plugged in. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[17:57] <nuxil> contrast83, did the guide work?
[17:58] <contrast83> nuxil: Yeah
[17:58] <nuxil> contrast83, cool
[17:58] <nuxil> well you should not need to change anything for eth0
[17:58] <yacc> contrast83, nope, did not help. One interesting thing is that I have no cursor on an empty X server (running X :1) either :(
[17:59] <contrast83> even though it's not in /etc/network/interfaces and KControl says it's disabled?
[17:59] <nuxil> ahh.
[17:59] <nuxil> contrast83, dhclient eth0
[17:59] <contrast83> yacc: Hrmm... Maybe "dpkg --get-selections | grep cursor" and reconfiguring the relevant packages?
[18:00] <oscar__> ubuntu-es
[18:00] <oscar__> español
[18:00] <oscar__> plis
[18:00] <oscar__> pleas
[18:00] <nuxil> contrast83, pm me
[18:02] <awag> i autoupdated before going to bed last night, and now my usb keyboard and mouse won't load, and it says unrockognized usb device
[18:02] <awag> they stopped working instantly when the update was fininshed
[18:02] <awag> even without restarting
[18:02] <awag> i thought my machine had frozen
[18:06] <contrast83> awag: you're not using any special drivers for them, are you (e.g., evdev)?
[18:07] <awag> contrast83: i don't think so, i just plugged them in and they started working like most usb devices do, they are both pretty generic
[18:08] <contrast83> awag: and they still didn't work after rebooting?
[18:08] <awag> contrast83: right, they work in bios, but as soon as ubuntu starts loading they both die
[18:09] <contrast83> awag: did a new kernel get installed?
[18:10] <awag> contrast83: I don't think so
[18:10] <contrast83> awag: run dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image
[18:11] <awag> contrast83: ok, one sec
[18:14] <awag> contrast83: when i boot up, it has a message about my usb devices not accept addresses
[18:14] <contrast83> awag: ok... what'd that command output?
[18:17] <awag> contrast83: sorry had to swich keyboards, it puts out 5 lines: linux-image-2.6.24-16-generic, and it has 3 more like that with the 16 part being 17, 18 and 19, and the one that just says linux-image-generic
[18:18] <awag> contrast83: there isn't an auto undo updates or anything right?
[18:18] <contrast83> awag: ok... and now run "uname -r"
[18:19] <awag> contrast83: 2.6.24-19-generic
[18:20] <contrast83> awag: ok. try rebooting, and as soon as it gets past the BIOS, hit Escape to get to GRUB's menu, then pick 2.6.24-18-generic
[18:20] <geoffuture> hello, my laptop (i386, fresh install hardy up to date, kde 3.5) freezes when shuting down, just after kde stops. anyone willing to help?
[18:20] <awag> contrast83: ok, this will boot with a kernel that is slightly older?
[18:21] <contrast83> right
[18:22] <francesco> !it
[18:22] <contrast83> awag: i could be wrong (afa this fixing your problem), but i can't think of anything else that'd cause something as generic as a usb keyboard and mouse to stop working
[18:22] <awag> contrast83: ok, this is a good sign, my usb mouse hasn't had it's power cut yet
[18:22] <fritz> does anyone know ubuntu beryl repository URL's?
[18:22] <contrast83> nuxil: any ideas?
[18:22] <francesco__> !IT
[18:22] <francesco__> !it
[18:22] <fritz> Ubuntu Beryl Repository Addresses?
[18:23] <awag> contrast83: it's working now, should I just use this kernel until something newer than the one that didn't work comes out?
[18:24] <contrast83> awag: yeah
[18:24] <contrast83> you can change the default kernel that's selected at boot by either manually editing /boot/grub/menu.lst, or by installing startup-manager and running it from the menu
[18:24] <awag> contrast83: will there be anything that requires the new kernel that i will run into problems with?
[18:26] <oobe> awag, most likely not
[18:26] <contrast83> awag: if you were using it before w/o issue, it should be fine
[18:27] <rickey> another adept mmanager crash i need to reset it
[18:28] <awag> contrast83: ok thanks a lot, saved the day :)
[18:28] <contrast83> no prob :-)
[18:29] <rickey> remind me of the command
[18:30] <contrast83> !adept
[18:30] <contrast83> !adeptfix
[18:30] <oobe> dpkg-reconfigire adept?
[18:32] <contrast83> oobe: get that?
[18:33] <corigo> libdb.so.3 out of date?
[18:38] <fritz> Ubuntu Beryl Repository Addresses?
[18:39] <Munchkinguy> Where do I file bugs for the KDE 4.1 packages from kubuntu-members-kde4 ?
[18:41] <geoffuture> why does my laptop freeze when I shut down?
[18:52] <Munchkinguy> geoffuture, what is your graphics card?
[18:53] <geoffuture> munchkinguy: 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[18:54] <Munchkinguy> See here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5068804&postcount=74
[18:54] <oobe> geoffuture, its possibly a power managent issue or somthing to do with acpi
[18:55] <Munchkinguy> I think it's a graphics-card-specific thing.
[18:56] <oobe> you might be right
[18:57] <geoffuture> Munchkinguy: yes I saw some threads about acpi.  the strange thing is that it did work before i reinstalled (just kept my /home)
[19:00] <ashok__> what lines should i add in /etc/fstab to auto mount my windows ntfs parttions
[19:02] <JordanG> ashok__, do you know what partition its on? (probably /dev/hda1 or /dev/sda1)
[19:02] <ashok__> yeah
[19:04] <oobe> i forget that stuff ashok__ i always use google
[19:05] <geoffuture> Munchkinguy: thanks for the pointer, but I already use the i810 driver
[19:05] <JordanG> should be something like: /dev/hda1    /windows    ntfs   defaults   0   0
[19:05] <ashok__> sda 1,5,6,7,8,9
[19:05] <Munchkinguy> Well then I have no idea.
[19:05] <carbel> hello from New York
[19:05] <ashok__> ok....thanks
[19:06] <JordanG> ashok__, or replace /windows with wherever you want to mount it. Thats where I usually stick it on my machines.
[19:06] <ashok__> alright.....
[19:07] <Chen> Hello Room
[19:08] <Chen> Any from New York
[19:08] <LoneShadow> has anyone installed liquid weather ?
[19:09] <_CrashMaster_> Ive been rained on, does that count?
[19:09] <LoneShadow> nope :)
[19:15] <francesco> !it
[19:22] <fritz> anybody know the right address of Beryl Repositories?
[19:28] <fritz> i searched for the repository information for Beryl on the forums for hours but they don't work
[19:28] <fritz> found some.. but they don't work
[19:30] <arty_> I have a problem dont go ALT + TAB      where I find pls
[19:33] <fritz> arty, try "system configurations/keyboard and mouse/keyboard shortcuts"
[19:34] <fritz> beryl repositories?
[19:36] <fritz> ok. beryl does being supported no more. i should go for Compiz fusion.
[19:38] <oobe> i compiled the kernel im using from source but the build directory has 2.8 GB of bloat everytime i type make clean i cant compile certain software does anyone know the way i can clean some of the bloat and still compile software
[19:44] <mechanical> господа, у кого получается зайти на ubuntu@conference.jabber.ru через psi
[19:45] <mechanical> гаджим на ура коннектит, а пси не хочет
[19:45] <_CrashMaster_> !rs
[19:45] <_CrashMaster_> Well that was the wrong trigger
[19:45] <oobe> !englishonly
[19:45] <oobe> :P
[19:46] <_CrashMaster_> !russian
[20:02] <oobe> penis
[20:04] <anom01y> how can I find out what version of kde I have ?
[20:05] <p_quarles> anom01y, in a terminal type kded -v
[20:05] <anom01y> thanks
[20:06] <p_quarles> or apt-cache policy kdebase
[20:16] <paul__> hi, i am trying to synch my treo 650 with kontact via k pilot but it does not recognise my device at all. can anyone help?
[20:24]  * Secutor is away: Gone away for now.
[20:33] <senethril> plop
[20:38] <observing> Hi all!!!!!!!!!!
[20:38] <observing> Why just install kubuntu here in my notebook
[20:39] <observing> and I have runing on it intel shipset
[20:39] <observing> But i don´t known if kubuntu install the drivers for default
[20:39] <observing> or
[20:39] <observing> if i have to install it by myself
[20:40] <observing> Any body can help me with that?
[20:42] <crimsun> observing: drivers for what?
[20:43] <observing> fro my vga
[20:43] <observing> it´s intel
[20:43] <paul__> anybody help with my treo 650?
[20:43] <crimsun> observing: they're already installed.
[20:44] <observing> how can i check?
[20:44] <observing> what´s the command to check in terminal?
[20:44] <crimsun> observing: in a Konsole, type: xdriinfo
[20:44] <oscar_> epanol
[20:44] <oscar_> español
[20:44] <Pici> !es | oscar_
[20:45] <crimsun> or glxinfo|grep ^direct
[20:45] <oscar_> thank you
[20:45] <observing> pl4y3r@owned:~$ xdriinfo
[20:45] <observing> Screen 0: i965
[20:45] <observing> pl4y3r@owned:~$
[20:46] <crimsun> observing: yes, that demonstrates that the DRI extension is active for your driver.
[20:46] <observing> so
[20:46] <observing> i try to run compiz
[20:46] <observing> and didn work
[20:46] <crimsun> perhaps you're unlucky and have a revision of i965 that is blacklisted.
[20:48] <observing> wht do you mean?
[20:52] <observing> crmsun
[20:52] <observing> ?
[20:53] <crimsun> observing: certain i965 chipsets are blacklisted deliberately, so they aren't able to run compiz.
[20:53] <crimsun> observing: that is due to lack of support in the driver.
[20:54] <observing> lol, so i will never can run it?
[20:54] <crimsun> observing: not necessarily.
[20:54] <crimsun> the blacklists are updated, too.
[20:55] <observing> oh 0kz, and how can i know about it?
[20:58] <mot_> question here
[20:58] <mot_> when you first start kde, the setup wizard guides you through a bunch of stuff, including raising/lowering desktop effects
[20:58] <mot_> i accidentally lowered mine but would like to raise them - how can i re-run this wizard?
[20:58] <LoneShadow> how do I get compiz to load ? I clicked on compiz fusion icon, it just shows the busy mouse cursor and disappears after few seconds
[20:58] <LoneShadow> !compiz
[20:59] <LoneShadow> nm :D
[21:02] <john_> Hi.
[21:04] <john_> How can I move files from one computer to another?
[21:04] <Maeva> john_: removable external hard drive
[21:05] <john_> Failing that, can I do it over ethernet?
[21:05] <Maeva> dunno
[21:06] <anom01y> anyone know how to make true transparency for konsole in kde 3.5.9, I found a patch for 3.5.5, but couldnt use the patch
[21:07] <john_> It seems like where Ubintu has finally gotten so much easier than using MS-OS the basic things like moving files over a network are ridiculously difficult for a simple person like me.
[21:17] <inteliwasp> has anyone made a gui dtmf encoder, preferably the 18 format?
[21:17] <inteliwasp> i mean the 0-9 # * abcdef
[21:19] <romulus_> helloooooooooo
[21:20] <darkmirror> selamınaleyküm
[21:20] <darkmirror> türk varmı türk
[21:20]  * inteliwasp still hears the echo from romulus_ 
[21:28] <GiggleSquirts> hey, is it worth installing KDE 4.1?
[21:28] <GiggleSquirts> any big issues I should be aware of?
[21:34] <JoshOvki> what is the command for monitoring port outputs?
[21:34] <JoshOvki> over a  network
[21:35] <appletree> hi2all
[21:35] <gargsale> Hi Folks, got a new install of 8.04 and trying to get the audio working.  Amarok *seems* to be playing but no audio out, is there some way to test the actual hardware the system thinks it have.
[21:35] <gargsale> ?
[21:37] <Timmy> gargsale: I have had a few problems like that before, just check KMix to see if the sliders are up, that is usualy my problem
[21:37] <GiggleSquirts> hey, is it worth installing KDE 4.1?
[21:38] <gargsale> Timmy, All sliders are up :-(.
[21:38] <Timmy> Oh dear.
[21:39] <gargsale> Getting noise when I type though :-)
[21:39] <Timmy> Ah, odd.
[21:39] <Timmy> Maybe something is wrong with Amaroks xine, have you tried other playesr?
[21:39] <gargsale> Yeah, old box that worked when it was put away...
[21:40] <Timmy> And you have the codecs etc?
[21:41] <gargsale> Timmy, No not yet, lemme try that, thanks!
[21:43] <rebol> hi to all
[21:44] <gokorn> how to update kde from 3 to 4?
[21:46] <rebol> have you read this? http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1
[21:48] <gokorn> ok wtf? what is the su password? when i installed it didnt asked me about root pass?
[21:49] <gokorn> sudo works... but how to go to su -?
[21:50] <rebol> do you mean you want to become root and stay "there"?
[21:50] <rebol> sudo su
[21:50] <rebol> !
[21:51] <gokorn> ok :P why is there no more root passworD?
[21:52] <rebol> it's not a matter of the password. The root user is disabled by default on Ubuntu, but you can re-enable it, if you will
[21:53] <gokorn> is this becose of security ishues that root password is disabled?
[21:53] <mozzy> as a migrant from suse it seems in kubuntu that there is no su but sudo seems to work
[21:53] <krijali> I can't seem to get prevu-init to run on a fresh 8.04 install on PPC architecture, when I try to run it, it begins and then says: Failure trying to run: chroot /var/cache/prevu/builds/10290/. mount -t proc proc /proc (then says pbuilder: debootstrap failed)... any ideas out there?
[21:53] <mozzy> then the password you entered on install
[21:55] <krijali> Regarding Su - from my understanding, the reasoning has something to do with comitting to make system wide changes every time you do it (so sudo works as far as I've used it)  Still bothers me though for some reason.  But if you want to make an entire session 'su like' you could run 'sudo -s' and your terminal session will be as though you were root
[21:55] <rebol> sorry guys, gotta log-off. I'll be back soon
[21:56] <kde4> Hi, I have problem in Kopete KDE4 - I can not connect to Gmail account. There is some problem wich QCA TLS plugin, but I have installed it. I have Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE 4. How to fix it?
[21:58] <slow-motion> hi
[21:58] <mozzy> I put kubuntu on my lappy today and any "down and dirty" stuff i wanted to do ie clearing out old files in home from previous instalations could be done with dolphin running as root
[21:59] <arpharazon> hello
[21:59] <arpharazon> you know how if you want to install an rpm, you have to convert it with alien? I want the convert option to be in the right click menu so I don't have to bother with the cli every time
[22:00] <arpharazon> how can I do that?
[22:00] <gargsale> amarok is giving me "error loading media" even though it gets the playlist off the CD ?!?  HELP?!?
[22:07] <HatTrick514_> Hi everyone, new Kubuntu user here very experienced Windows user, as much as I would have no problems using the CLI, I want to do everything in the GUI but I can't figure somethings out, is anyone able to help me and answer some questions from a Windows/DOS user? I do know some basic Linux CLI commands
[22:09] <des_> not a lot of conversations going on here
[22:10] <HatTrick514_> so it seems
[22:10] <HatTrick514_> can you answer some questions for me?
[22:10] <des_> i was kind of hoping to figure out how to use irc but i am a bit overwhelmed
[22:10] <des_> i can try
[22:11] <anom01y> is it worth upgrading to kde 4 yet ??
[22:11] <appletree> i too
[22:11] <des_> not particularly especially if you do not have to
[22:11] <HatTrick514_> well IRC I couldnt log in from the KDE IRC client, so I just used ChatZilla on my Windows desktop over VNC
[22:12] <HatTrick514_> well how do I disable the single click on icons? I want to double click like on Windows it's not a damn web link
[22:12] <HatTrick514_> ?
[22:12] <appletree> @ anom01y .at the moment  kde4 its mor experimental.yuse the stabel 3.5 ur so.thats why 8.04 is not lts
[22:12] <mozzy> kde4 - i have it on a 2nd partition - personally 4.1 is good to play with but not yet for main uses
[22:16] <HatTrick514_> anyone?
[22:16] <clau30> hi. can I find somewhere the vanilla kernel as a ubuntu package? :)
[22:19] <appletree> @ HatTrick514 oh sorry mom i look for it
[22:20] <HatTrick514> appletree: ?
[22:20] <appletree> @ HatTrick514 sys.configuration ->keyboard and mmmm
[22:21] <appletree> keybord and mouse-> mouse-> symbol(like windows)
[22:22] <Crell> Hi all.  I'm having a problem with Hardy Heron.  I'm trying to upgrade a system from Edgy to Hardy.  The upgrade went fine, but on reboot it seems to not be able to handle my SATA drives.  I've tried a Live CD as well to do diagnostics, but it seems to fail there, too, for anything but a memory test.
[22:22] <clau30> is there any kernel as a ubuntu package that is not too much changed from the vanilla one? (the ubuntu kernel has a driver changed and it's buggy)
[22:23] <Crell> I just get a busybox shell and nothing else.
[22:23] <Crell> Are there any issues with Hardy and SATA?
[22:24] <anom01y> anyone know how to make konsole have true transparency ??
[22:24] <HatTrick514> appletree: any way to do this using the gui? I don't mind using the CLI or editing files manually, but there HAS got to be a way to do this the same way as in windows point and click with check boxes
[22:25] <arpharazon> HatTrick514: go to system settings, mouse, there's a radio button for it
[22:25] <appletree> klick on the kde-button .then klick system-setting.
[22:26] <the7thmagus> hey, I was wondering if anyone else is getting weird Plasma graphical glitches when OpenOffice 2.4 is open?
[22:26] <appletree> klick the keyb. and mouse
[22:26] <HatTrick514> ok there we go, thanks, I missed that when I first went through it
[22:26] <appletree> and there it is
[22:26] <HatTrick514> now how do I disable the thinkpad touchpad and keep the touchpoint active?
[22:27] <krijali> Anyone know prevu well?
[22:35] <Crell> I am beginning to think there's just a bug in the kernel with SATA drives...
[22:37] <appletree> @ Crell ,you cant start with al livecd???
[22:37] <Crell> appletree: Nope.  I keep bombing out to a busybox screen.
[22:39] <appletree> huuu.memo for myself "never change a running sys."
[22:39] <Crell> I was expecting trouble with the mail server, not the kernel :-(
[22:41] <appletree> distupgrade is a myst. thing.
[22:41] <Crell> This isn't just dist-upgrade.
[22:42] <Crell> After a dist-upgrade, the new kernel dies but the old one works.  A live CD of Hardy, same system, also dies.
[22:42] <Crell> Hence my confusion.
[22:45] <appletree> damm
[22:46] <appletree> thats look alike wath you say.
[22:57] <chrisinajar> Hi, so starting today my system kernel panics a lot.
[22:57] <chrisinajar> I haven't installed anything new on it at all
[22:58] <appletree> @ chrisinajar disconnekt any usb dev. and try it again.
[23:04] <tgralke> Hello ! I'm new here.
[23:06] <zarkani> hejsa
[23:07] <tgralke> does anyone know something about the ".initramfs .static .udev"  directories in "/dev" ?
[23:08] <crimsun> those are useful for pivot-root.
[23:08] <crimsun> tgralke: meaning your system uses those during the minimal system for initramfs.
[23:09] <l3x> join #wine
[23:09] <l3x> stupid me..
[23:10] <tgralke> well the checkrootkit did advise me to check out use for
[23:10] <chrisinajar> appletree: no new usb devices, i had it on and was playing a game for a few hours and it randomly kernel paniced
[23:10] <crimsun> tgralke: those are expected, correct, and useful.
[23:10] <chrisinajar> now it panics probably 1 out of every 3 boots
[23:11] <chrisinajar> and kernel panics after only an hour or so of use
[23:11] <crimsun> chrisinajar: have you run memtest+ from the grub menu?
[23:11] <chrisinajar> I have not, would that be a wise choice?
[23:11] <crimsun> chrisinajar: absolutely.
[23:12] <chipbuddy> i want a music player that will reorganize my songs. similar to how f-stop moves my pictures around. will amarok do that?
[23:12] <tgralke> crimsun: so i better leave them where they are...
[23:12] <crimsun> tgralke: unless you want your system to mysteriously and nondeterministically break.
[23:12] <crimsun> tgralke: (they are, however, recreated on boot.)
[23:13] <appletree> @ chrisinajar when you use graphig .video and so on?
[23:13] <l3x> chipbuddy: i do not think that amarok can reorganize directories...
[23:13] <chrisinajar> what?
[23:14] <chrisinajar> it panics a lot right after the grub menu
[23:14] <appletree> @ chrisinajar what kind of processor and gpu you have???
[23:14] <chrisinajar> or just seemingly at random
[23:14] <chrisinajar> oohh
[23:14] <chrisinajar> intel q6600 quad core
[23:15] <chrisinajar> and an nvidia 8800gts 512mb
[23:15] <l3x> nice machine chrisinajar :)
[23:15] <anom01y> how do I upgrade to kde 4.x ?
[23:16] <tgralke> crimsun:well they are hidden, what chkrootkit does interpret correctly as a hidden device. All other devices are visible...
[23:16] <anom01y> !kde
[23:16] <crimsun> chkrootkit is a bit too generic in that regard.  It needs to be updated/informed about Linux udev.
[23:16] <anom01y> !kde4
[23:16] <appletree> try to disable acpi and test the sys.i dont know when the last kernel-update was but i have some strange problems after a kernel-update.
[23:18] <darcy> i'm trying to get my ipod to sync with linux - any ideas
[23:18] <l3x> sync?
[23:19] <appletree> @ l3x and he use linux.thats nice too
[23:19] <darcy> sorry, i'm trying to put music onto my ipod
[23:19] <l3x> darcy: just plug it in
[23:20] <l3x> you will probably get a new window
[23:20] <l3x> and simply put some music on it
[23:20] <anom01y> is it worth upgrading to kde 4.x ?
[23:20] <appletree> what kind of fs has the ipod???
[23:20] <l3x> anom01y: not yet. wait 4.3
[23:21] <darcy> i did, and it then uses dolphin to manage it, but non of the songs that are currently on it show up with song names, only coded names of the audio files.
[23:21] <kdejirik>  My Konqueror sometimes crashs. Which development package shoud I install to have usefull backtrace after fall application?
[23:21] <darcy> the ipod is a 4gb nano 2nd gen
[23:21] <tgralke> crimsun: well crtainly chkrootkit must fit in general... so these hidden directories on my Kubuntu are special and necessary.
[23:21] <l3x> darcy: sorry i never used an ipod :)
[23:21] <darcy> i'm looking for a program that may work like itunes
[23:22] <l3x> darcy: try googling ipod with linux sync itunes replacement
[23:22] <l3x> those keywords
[23:22] <chrisinajar> wtf, now firefox is crashing too...
[23:22] <chrisinajar> it's like i have a linux virus :-P
[23:23] <appletree> darcy: sunbird.amarok
[23:23] <l3x> darcy: oi, amarok has device sync option
[23:23] <l3x> darcy: just to the left, the last tab, try that
[23:23] <darcy> thanks guys - that helps
[23:23] <l3x> np
[23:23] <tgralke> good bye !
[23:23] <l3x> chrisinajar: whaaaaatttt????
[23:24] <l3x> chrisinajar: what is happening??? can you explain please?
[23:26] <kdejirik> Please, which package should be installed for usefull backtrace, when the konqueror fall down ..?
[23:29] <cadoo> kdejirik: #kubuntu-kde4 but I don't see any dbg packages in the repos
[23:30] <cadoo> kdejirik: try runnig it from konsole maybe?
[23:31] <kdejirik> cadoo: I am installing kde4base-dbg package, it should be the right one ...
[23:33] <HatTrick514> I just downloaded a KDM theme and extracted the archive but what file do I choose from the KDM Theme Manager?
[23:33] <cadoo> kdejirik: ask in #kubuntu-kde4 they should know
[23:35] <AbstortedMinds> is kde 4.1 working good with k/ubuntu
[23:37] <HatTrick514> anyone?
[23:37] <mathias> hola!
[23:37] <mathias> hello!
[23:38] <mathias> is there anybody here?
[23:38] <Dolgo> hi
[23:38] <mathias> hi dolfo
[23:38] <mathias> *dolgo
[23:39] <Dolgo> hi mathias
[23:47] <gift> [Mass Message] Apologies for the short downtime all. All sites/servers/shells are back online and fully operational.
[23:50] <Dolgo> KUBUNTU POWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:51] <Dolgo> oopa
[23:53] <bascule> easy tiger :)
[23:54] <chuxxsss> hi all I have a problem with my kubuntu I can't upgrade because I have 5 broken packages one is kdelibs5
[23:55] <Dolgo> glu didn't work ?
[23:56] <chuxxsss> I burn another disc because it was looking for it but it doesn't  see it in the drive because of the burn dates
[23:56] <Dolgo> i'm afraid i can't help you
[23:57] <bascule> chuxxsss: have you tried apt-get install --fix-broken
[23:57] <bascule> after apt-get update
[23:58] <chuxxsss> yes not today I can paste what it say if you would like
[23:58] <bascule> try apt-get reinstall <broken things>
[23:58] <ubuntu> guys, help... I have one extended partition on /dev/sda3
[23:59] <ubuntu> i had kubuntu 7.10 installed on /dev/sda5 on that partition
[23:59] <bascule> chuxxsss: It is late, I was just sort of flickingth through the chans :)
[23:59] <ubuntu> and ubuntu 8.04 on /dev/sda7
[23:59] <ubuntu> or something like htat
[23:59] <ubuntu> i wanted to delete the 7.10
[23:59] <ubuntu> so i went into recovery command line mode