[00:47] <fta> crimsun, how can i ask kvm to use pulseaudio instead of stealing the device ?
[02:49] <crimsun> fta: I haven't inspected kvm; I'll have to install it on hardy to check
[02:49] <crimsun> fta: does it grab /dev/dsp or ask, via alsa-lib, for /dev/snd/* ?
[11:02] <fta> crimsun, kvm grabs /dev/dsp so if i have mplayer in pause when i start kvm, i can't un-pause it as long as kvm is there; really annoying.
[11:03] <fta> crimsun, btw, in order to have sound in my guest OSes, i can't use virt-manager, i have to use kvm directly with -soundhw all
[11:06] <gnomefreak> !lock
[11:06] <gnomefreak> !adept-lock
[11:13] <gnomefreak> anyone awake yet?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> when someone that uses google calendar gets here please ping me i need someone to test something for me
[11:56] <gnomefreak> anyone with agenda items for meeting please dont forget to add them to wiki
[13:10] <fta> just upgraded a server to debian/etch, it's dirty. exim4, mailman, apache2, mysql, php, ntpd, all fucked up. bad
[13:10] <fta> it's clearly not for newbies
[13:41] <gnomefreak> etch?
[13:41] <gnomefreak> not lenny?
[13:41] <gnomefreak> etch is suposed to be stable
[13:50] <fta> yep, etch
[13:51] <gnomefreak> that has got to suck does debian not know what stable means or do they concider stable as breaks when we want it to?
[13:51] <fta> i decided to move that server in low maintenance mode, hence the move from unstable to the freshly released stable.
[13:54] <fta> the migration was painful. i'm done now, at least for the most obvious breakages
[13:54] <fta> let's hope i don't discover more later
[13:57] <gnomefreak> you will but good luck
[17:51] <crimsun> fta: does wrapping kvm with padsp work?
[17:52] <crimsun> fta: caveat:  I haven't tried personally, so I can't vouch one way or another.
[17:52] <crimsun> fta: e.g., padsp $whatever_command_you_use_to_invoke_the_kvm_binary
[18:10] <fta> crimsun, nope, tried padsp and aoss yesterday. no change
[19:28] <crimsun> fta: can you can an strace -f and ltrace with padsp?  (aoss wouldn't be as useful here, though the semantics are similar)
[21:35] <fta> crimsun, if i start padsp kvm with mplayer running, i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/33452/
[21:35] <fta> crimsun, s/mplayer/rhythmbox/
[21:37] <crimsun> sigh, stupid kvm.
[22:26] <smallfoot-> add flock to repo
[22:32] <fta> not my decision to make
[22:33] <fta> my package is usable, if that's what you want
[23:17] <fta> well.. sigh
[23:17] <crimsun> ?
[23:36] <crimsun> fta: I won't have time to look at kvm until next week