[00:01] <K-Mile> well, that went better than expected
[00:02] <K-Mile> I reinstalled VMware 2 RC1, set networking on both the host as the guests to use the WAN default gateway and LAN DNS server
[00:02] <K-Mile> and now it works like a charm from both inside LAN and WAN
[00:06] <ScottK> lamont: For these scripts I'm doing, would you rather I be branching off your git tree and them push them back to you (my alioth user is kitterma-guest)?
[00:09] <lamont> ScottK: branch off git and git send-email, I expect
[00:10] <ScottK> OK.  I guess I have to learn how to do that last bit.
[00:11] <ScottK> lamont: Do you have an easy hint for teaching get to send you mail from me (if not, I'll consult the oracle at Google)?
[00:14] <lamont> ScottK: man git-format-patch; man git-send-email
[00:14] <ScottK> lamont: Thanks.
[00:14]  * ScottK just learning git ....
[00:14] <lamont> although if it's just "add these files" there's no reason to go that far... if you're changing files, then it makes sense.
[00:15] <ScottK> I was going to fix debian/copyright for you since my "Let's add MIT to common-licenses" plan got shot down.
[00:15] <lamont> also, commits for postfix want to have the first line (short descr) be the changelog entry (minus any bug numbers), and not mix debian and non-debian files in single commits
[00:16] <ScottK> I'm not touching anything outside debian dir, so no problem there.
[00:16] <lamont> and no changing changelog... that's done later and semi-automagically
[00:16] <lamont> based on the commit log
[00:16] <ScottK> The thing I didn't figure before was what knob to turn to get the files installed.  I'll leave that to you.
[00:17] <ScottK> Maybe I'll just send you the files and a diff for debian/copyright then.
[00:18] <lamont> basically, when I get ready to release, then I parse the output of git log and create the changelog entry for the release, broken out by author, and changelog is only in that commit, so the merge pain that changelog causes isn't there if I go cherry-picking fixes to other brnaches
[00:18] <ScottK> Right.  Tell me how you want it and I
[00:18] <ScottK> I'll do my best to provide that.
[00:21] <lamont> after you clone, say 'git log --stats=80' and it's pretty clear from the output, or at least I think it is... :0)
[00:23] <ScottK> lamont: We'll see.  I'll give it a shot.
[00:42] <shelby> hey guys how do i load a sound driver in ubuntu server???
[00:43] <shelby> i need to load a sound driver
[00:44] <shelby> any ideas?
[00:44] <shelby> something with alsa?
[00:51] <lch> modprobe
[00:51] <shelby> MODPROBE?
[00:51] <shelby> modprobe?*
[00:52] <lch> yes, for the kernel module
[00:52] <lch> what tells you that you need to load a sound driver?
[01:20] <elnewb> how do i uninstall a package from ubuntu?
[01:20] <elnewb> by the command line that is
[01:21] <ScottK> sudo apt-get remove $PACKAGENAME
[01:21] <elnewb> thanks
[03:16] <javagamer> If I just installed a server from the CD with Mail Server selected can I just start sending emails though my server as an open relay?
[03:26] <ScottK> javagamer: Postfix is not an open relay by default.  Note that open relay is a bad thing, so I'm not sure you're using it in the standard way most mail admins use it.
[03:35] <jjesse> javagamer: plus a lot of mail servers block any email from an open relaay
[03:36] <jjesse> my corporate email servers subscribes to an open mail relay list
[03:36] <jjesse> and automatically blocks everyone on it
[05:06] <ComputerWolf> anyone here a FTP expert?
[05:07] <ComputerWolf> anyone here at all? :-P
[05:10] <ScottK> My advice on ftp is pick something else.
[05:10] <ComputerWolf> what would you suggest for simple file sharing with those with windows boxes and aren't too computer literate?
[05:11] <ScottK> sftp.
[05:11] <ScottK> There are plenty of windows clients for that too.
[05:11] <ComputerWolf> hmm, what sftp client would you suggest?
[05:11] <ScottK> Key difference is passwords don't get sent unencrypted.
[05:11] <ScottK> For Ubuntu it's built in.
[05:11] <ComputerWolf> sorry, i meant server
[05:12] <ScottK> For Ubuntu server if you install openssh-server it just works.
[05:14] <ComputerWolf> interesting... i have ssh installed and working... can you chroot other users using some sort of configuration?
[05:14] <ScottK> You can.  I haven't had to do it.  If you don't mind giving the people a shell account it's easy and just works.
[05:15] <ScottK> You can lock it down so that they don't have shell access, but I haven't had to do it.
[05:15] <ComputerWolf> i just want everyone but me to be stuck in one directory where all the files are
[05:15] <ScottK> BTW, it's not just the password that's encrypted, the entire session is in an SSH tunnel.
[05:16] <ScottK> If you make that directory owned by a common special group and put those users in that group, that should be doable.
[05:16] <hads> I recall a package called scponly or somesuch
[05:16] <ComputerWolf> but i want to keep them from getting out of that folder though
[05:18] <ComputerWolf> i'm looking up scponly and it looks like it might do the trick
[13:43] <ErikWestrup> What programs etc. do I need to get the sound to work? The sound card seems to be found by system when I type lspci.
[16:26] <alpharomeo> how can i install ubuntu-desktop from the ubuntu dvd on my ubuntu server? what do i need to do for that?
[16:29] <alpharomeo> hello?
[16:31] <StonedToo> what do you want to hear? just insert your dvd and install
[16:33] <alpharomeo> i installed the ubuntu server edition, now i want to install gnome on it... i've the ubuntu dvd, and i want to know how i can install gnome from the dvd
[16:33] <Deeps> use apt-cdrom to add the dvd as an apt source
[16:33] <Deeps> and then install ubuntu-desktop
[16:34] <farieh> excuse me..
[16:34] <farieh> mm..
[16:35] <farieh> where can I download ubuntu-server  tutorial step by step in pdf format..
[16:35] <farieh> tq
[16:35] <alpharomeo> Deeps, ok so i type "apt-cdrom add" and then insert the dvd?
[16:36] <alpharomeo> and then i type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"?
[16:44] <alpharomeo> and can i do the same using the ubuntu cd?
[17:00] <Dedi> my backuppc runs with nice -2... and i did no such setting.. any idea on that?
[17:01] <Dedi> also it does not compress, even its enabled
[17:45] <Kapli> Hello, I'm wondering how I set a root directory for a specific user, meaning he can not access any other folders
[22:40] <PMantis> dpkg is throwing an out of space error, when there's over 800MB free. Why?  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/33469/
[23:23] <Kapli> Hello, I know this might be inappropriate but does anyone have suggestions on a good router for a home network where I have an ubuntu server that runs a few website and a ventrilo server?
[23:38] <[mbm]> anyone ever heard of a caching filesystem? .. similar concept to a unionfs but a cache-on-read instead of a copy-on-write
[23:53] <GeekSquadSF> hey guys... i've got ubuntu server edi running LAMP within a vmware environment... I have an ubuntu user box that im trying to play with.. my problem is.. im new to linux.. and I can't get the ssh to let me into the other machine
[23:53] <ScottK> Did you install ssh in the other machine?
[23:54] <ScottK> i.e. openssh-server
[23:54] <GeekSquadSF> yeah.. they both have it installed...
[23:54] <dusty> Hey guys if using ssh public/private keys for accessing a remote machine - what happens if you loose your public key on your workstation due to hard drive failure - no backup of the key, how can I get access to my vps again ?
[23:54] <hads> You mean losing the private key? No fix for that.
[23:55] <Kapli> Did anyone have any suggestions for a router? Lost my connection for  while didn't see
[23:55] <ScottK> dusty: Talk to people who you rent the VPS from and ask them how to recover access.
[23:56] <dusty> ok
[23:56] <dusty> also
[23:57] <dusty> actually never mind, thanks.
[23:57] <GeekSquadSF> im trying to build a "microsoft server" environment so I can use BT3 and test it on both areas...
[23:58] <GeekSquadSF> ofcourse.... I have no idea what im doing with the linux side of the house