[00:28] <IrCYop> How do you get the a password screen on xfce4 after a screen saver begins and you move your mouse
[00:29] <bassboi> applications ~> settings ~> settings manager ~> screen saver ~> check box that says lock screen when screen saver is active
[01:54] <kenyon> hi. i just installed a fresh xubuntu from the 8.04.1 desktop cd. why does ssh server reject connection by default?
[01:57] <kenyon> ...because it is not installed
[01:59] <kenyon> sorry i was stupid
[01:59] <zoredache> we will forgive you this time... :p
[02:00] <kenyon> i installed it before but wirh the wrong package name and did not realize
[02:01] <kenyon> so i tghought there is some secret activation required or firewall
[03:03] <crimsun> kenyon: yeah, we have sekrit runez.
[03:28] <kenyon> i knew there was something behind the x
[03:52] <bassboi> can i install xubuntu from the internet via a terminal?
[03:58] <coldhak>  i've just gotten a usb headset, and i'm trying to set it as my default sound device. Audacious and the xfce4-mixer detect it, and play/control it just fine, but asoundconf doesn't detect it. did i forget to do something? can't find any data on this via google.
[03:59] <coldhak> google's rather sparse on xfce+usb stuff
[04:01] <lunch> how to tell if you are allocating too much memory for video? i am using share memory. 768 mb ram
[04:12] <gko> Hi.
[04:12] <bassboi> Howdy partner
[04:12] <coldhak> hallo
[04:13] <gko> How big in memory is xubuntu, compared to (k)ubuntu ?
[04:13] <gko> I have a 320 Mo / Pentium II 366 Mhz laptop.
[04:14] <coldhak> not sure how big, but it's smaller :/
[04:14] <gko> I'm trying Ubuntu running with ratpoison but, of course, there is some Ubuntu stuff running that eats the memory.
[04:15] <coldhak> you might try running something a little lighter weight, like fluxbox
[04:17] <gko> I have tried minimalist distributions, but, paradoxically, it looks like those won't contain stuff needed to run old hardware (without doing patching stuff)...
[04:18] <coldhak> ...that's pretty odd
[04:19] <coldhak> dunno. i've never really messed with my older systems
[04:19] <coldhak> they gather dust in the corner :/
[04:20] <lunch> how to change splash screen to x buntu at boot time?
[04:20] <coldhak> hello there
[04:24] <coldhak> damn, i know the answer to that one.
[04:25] <bassboi> do you know how to install xubuntu from the internet frmo a terminal
[04:26] <bassboi> my cd is scratched up but no blanks
[04:39] <coldhak> 1) go next door 2) have friend dl cd from internet 3) have friend burn cd 4) install from cd
[04:39] <coldhak> dunno what else to say :/
[04:51] <wols_> bassboi: is there an OS already on that disk?
[04:52] <wols_> the PC you want to put xubuntu on that is
[04:52] <lunch> how to display date on desktop bar?
[04:58] <coldhak> damnit, why doesn't he wait for the answer >.<
[04:58] <bassboi> wols_, nope
[04:58] <bassboi> it's all partitioned up too
[04:58] <bassboi> 4g boot, 2g swap, the rest as /home
[04:58] <wols_> then you obviously can't. you need a way to boot the machine first to some OS
[04:59] <wols_> well anything but DOS...
[04:59] <bassboi> well
[04:59] <bassboi> i can boot the live CD
[04:59] <bassboi> just the cd is corrupt
[05:00] <bassboi> full of scratches n crap
[05:00] <bassboi> and no blanks :(
[05:00] <wols_> then you can
[05:00] <wols_> debootrstrap for example
[05:00] <coldhak> happen to have a different cd? maybe an older ubuntu?
[05:12] <bassboi> gots mythbuntu
[05:12] <bassboi> tho i dont want that
[05:17] <coldhak> you could install mythbuuntu, then uninstall all the tv-related junk, and install xfce and all that
[05:17] <j1mc> bassboi: you have a 4gb boot partition.  did you mean root partition?
[05:17] <bassboi> it's mounted as /
[05:17] <bassboi> root, yz
[05:17] <j1mc> bassboi: is the mythbuntu cd a live cd, or an alternate cd?
[05:17] <bassboi> live
[05:18] <j1mc> if it were the alternate cd, you could install a command line version of mythbuntu, and then just install xubuntu desktop.
[05:20] <bassboi> yzyz
[05:20] <bassboi> ty
[05:20] <bassboi> i may have found a random blank
[05:20] <bassboi> i think i did
[06:11] <lunch> how to change boot screen to x buntu?
[06:11] <lunch> !boot
[06:14] <coldhak> it's in the settings manager under splash screen
[06:14] <coldhak> select simple -> configure, then select your image
[06:19] <lunch> coldhak, no, not that one, the ONE right after grub
[06:19] <coldhak> oh, that one....nifty
[07:50] <lunch> how to set settings, so that , when i move files from one folder into the next will work correctly? currently it just do COPY, so i end up having two copies
[07:53] <zoredache> I believe if you hold down the shift or alt key when you do your drag and drop it will move
[08:02] <lunch> zoredache, yes, only partly true. it works if you are inside thunar, but on the desktop of xfce, it's not thunar, and it will not work
[08:07] <zoredache> hrmph...  I usually ignore the desktop
[08:10] <lunch> zoredache, be better if i can disable desktop navigation
[08:10] <lunch> disable read write
[08:10] <lunch> wait... i think i can, chmod
[08:10] <lunch> not sure if system will write stuff to it, beside me
[08:23] <lunch2> zoredache, /
[08:30] <lunch2> how to start two sessions at the same time? gnome and xfce
[08:39] <lunch2> how to take screen shot in xfc?
[08:48] <coldhak> i use the panel screenshot thing
[08:48] <coldhak> there's a shell command or three for it too, though i don't recall what it is
[08:52] <lunch2> gnome just need to hit print screen
[08:52] <lunch2> coldhak,
[08:52] <coldhak> huh?
[08:55] <coldhak> well, doesn't appear to work as easily for me in xfce.
[08:55] <lunch2> coldhak, in gnome,i only need to hit print screen key
[08:55] <coldhak> yeah, and like i just said, that's not working for me
[08:56] <coldhak> and you asked about xfce. i use xfce, i supplied my method.
[08:56] <lunch2>  gnome-panel-screenshot  ; run this command and switch to your screen real fast.
[08:57] <coldhak> i will look up why the print screen button doesn't work though
[08:57] <lunch2> help if u have slow computer, so you will have enough time to switch screen =)
[08:58] <coldhak> <.< if you use the panel widget, you can adjust the delay
[08:58] <lunch2> helps
[09:08] <coldhak> ...why's that guy keep leaving? right before i find his answer too
[09:50] <gbjk> Good morning.
[09:51] <gbjk> I have a fairly stupid question, but I just want to be sure: I have Xubuntu GG installed. I want to upgrade to HH. Using the update manager appears to be a bad idea. It seems that doing so would upgrade to plain ubuntu, installing most of gnome. Is that correct?
[09:55] <coldhak> no, if you're running xubuntu, and you upgrade via the update manager, it upgrades to xubuntu's next version
[10:36] <gbjk> coldhak: That's surprising.
[10:36] <gbjk> coldhak: I downloaded the iso xubuntu image, and the packages that concerned me aren't listed.
[10:40] <gbjk> coldhak: + the info page for 8.04 you get when you click "upgrade" shows ubuntu with no mention of xubuntu anywhere.
[10:41] <gbjk> /etc/apt/sources.list doesn't mention xubuntu except for the two cdrom options.
[10:46] <coldhak> ...that's strange. i upgraded my desktop just a few weeks ago
[10:51] <gbjk> coldnak: I must be wrong.
[10:52] <gbjk> So in order to upgrade, I can just use the normal package manager?
[10:53] <gbjk> And it won't go installing all the unwanted gnome packages?
[10:53] <gbjk> The xubuntu website upgrade from 7.10 page points you to downloading an ISO, which is why I ask.
[10:56]  * gbjk tries upgrading a desktop running compiz fusion too first.
[11:19] <Raz0R> can anyone help me, i cant get a dhcp offer using wireless. ethernet works fine but no wireless?
[11:33] <gbjk> Raz0R: You can see the thing with iwlist scan?
[11:34] <gbjk> Raz0R: And you've connected to it with iwconfig?
[11:34] <gbjk> If so dhcpcd and dhclient are the two subsequent commands.
[11:34] <Raz0R> gbjk i see the ap with iwlist scan
[11:35] <Raz0R> gbjk i have not heard of this ipconfig?
[11:35] <gbjk> iwconfig
[11:35] <gbjk> iwconfig ethX and see if you're actually connected to the thing.
[11:35] <Raz0R> ok
[11:35] <Raz0R> iws wlan0
[11:35] <Raz0R> its*
[11:36] <gbjk> Gah, yes, of course
[11:36] <Raz0R> essid: off/any
[11:36] <Raz0R> thing is, ive tried sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid MYESSID but it doesnt seem to be storing the value i set
[11:36] <gbjk> IIRC you're missing set from that
[11:38] <gbjk> Nope, IRW. No set required.
[11:38] <gbjk> Raz0R: iwlist shows you a essid, but iwconfig won't show it after you set it?
[11:38]  * gbjk suspects some silly gui applet of interferring.
[11:39] <Raz0R> gbjk lol ok well i have removed network manager and have installed wicd
[11:39] <Raz0R> but i also have kwifimanager installed, and wifi radar
[11:39] <gbjk> Bloody hell.
[11:40] <Raz0R> lol, remove?
[11:41] <Raz0R> shall i just leave wicd?
[11:41] <gbjk> God knows. I have no familiarity with any of those.
[11:42] <gbjk> I know I've achieved wifi on many laptops by manual config where applets failed, and I don't bother with them anymore.
[11:42] <gbjk> Exception being... whatever I have running right now that shows my connection. It seems to be unobtrusive.
[11:45] <Raz0R> do you know what it is?
[11:46] <Raz0R> ok ive just removed all the gui applets and now i just have network manager installed
[12:15] <gbjk> Oh FFS.
[12:16] <gbjk> Either xubuntu has stopped using xfce4, or xfce4 isn't using much xfce anymore.
[12:16] <gbjk> Cos post upgrade, I have gnoe-panel, gnome -settings-daemon, etc all running
[12:16] <gbjk> And no xfce in sight.
[12:18] <gbjk> Ah, that's right, this system actually had gnome installed, so it went to that because the default login session was lost
[12:23] <si10cybin> hello
[12:24] <si10cybin> i was hoping someone could give me some basic advice ...
[12:24] <si10cybin> i just installed xubuntu on a machine and seem to have come unstuck
[12:24] <si10cybin> the root user seems to have been deleted
[12:24] <si10cybin> i am new to linux
[12:25] <gbjk> I would be amazed if that had happened.
[12:25] <si10cybin> synaptic says error "user root does not exist" and exits
[12:25] <gbjk> finger root ?
[12:25] <gbjk> heh, that's ... very impressive.
[12:25] <si10cybin> finger root says "no such user"
[12:25] <gbjk> I wonder if you can sudo without a superuser to do as.
[12:25] <si10cybin> sudo -i say "no passwd entry for root!"
[12:26] <si10cybin> applications/system/users and groups is blank and won't let me add a user
[12:26] <si10cybin> any ideas?
[12:29] <si10cybin> anybody?
[12:31] <gbjk> what does /etc/passwd say?
[12:32] <si10cybin> one moment
[12:34] <si10cybin> there are two files with the name passwd
[12:35] <si10cybin> the first contains my username, I can give you the string if it helps
[12:35] <si10cybin> the second is unable to be accessed via the file manager, 'permission denied'
[12:35] <si10cybin> i am new to linux so if there is another way to access this file please tell me
[12:35] <gbjk> I'm going to have to leave you to it - Need to leave.
[12:36] <si10cybin> ok thanks anyway
[12:36] <gbjk> si10cybin: I suspect you need to re-install to get the quickest fix for your current kill level.
[12:36] <si10cybin> !!!
[12:36] <gbjk> si10cybin: Instal only takes 20 mins, not so bad?
[12:36] <gbjk> si10cybin: Do you know what you did to delete it, btw? I've never seen anyone do that before by accident.
[12:37] <si10cybin> i was trying to install a printer, and came across old instructions that involved creating a cups username and then accessing an administrative panel through the web browser
[12:37] <si10cybin> there were no usernames in the user settings to begin with
[12:38] <si10cybin> all i did was delete the group that I created when i realised there is a print manager
[12:38] <si10cybin> it shouldn't be that easy for a newbie to kill an install
[12:41] <gbjk> It really shouldn't, no.
[12:42] <si10cybin> oh well
[12:42] <si10cybin> i'm trying over in the ubuntu channel to see if anyone there can give me some advice.
[12:42] <si10cybin> thanks
[15:35] <FreeBullets> >_> i accidentally downloaded, burnt, installed, and setup the wrong xubuntu version
[15:42] <bassboi> auto auto update :D
[15:51] <JinKazama> The Pidgin IRC chat ... :)
[15:51] <JinKazama> its new for me :)
[18:27] <Raz0R> i have got my wireless internet connection working with wep, can anyone help me set it up with wpa or wpa2 psk please?
[18:32] <vinnl> Raz0R, have you already tried it?
[18:33] <Raz0R> vinnl no i am not sure how to go about it
[18:33] <vinnl> Raz0R, the same way you did WEP
[18:34] <Raz0R> vinnl i used wifi radar to set it up. to do wpa it says driver:
[18:34] <Raz0R> what do i put there?
[18:34] <Raz0R> ndiswrapper, wext, ?
[18:34] <vinnl> Raz0R, that depends on your card, I have about zero experience with wifi-radar
[18:35] <vinnl> Are you using ndiswrapper that you are aware of?
[18:35] <Raz0R> vinnl yeah i am using it
[18:35] <Raz0R> vinnl but i have read that i should use wext anyway, im just a bit confused
[18:35] <Raz0R> vinnl its taken about a week to get wep working lol
[18:35] <vinnl> Raz0R, I'd say just try both :)
[18:36] <Raz0R> vinnl would i just type it in the box ?
[18:36] <vinnl> Raz0R, what?
[18:37] <TheSheep> doesn't nm-applet make it a single-click operation?
[18:37] <Raz0R> vinnl it says wpa driver then a text box. do i just put "ndiswrapper"?
[18:38] <luissss> hola
[18:38] <luissss> hello
[18:38] <j1mc> hola
[18:39] <luissss> si hablan español aqui?
[18:39] <luissss> que bien
[18:39] <luissss> hola jlmc
[18:39] <vinnl> Raz0R, I guess so - as said, I haven't really used it
[18:40] <j1mc> luissss: lo siento, no hablo espanol
[18:40] <j1mc> solamente un poco  :(  ??
[18:40] <luissss> algun sitio en español que que se refiera a xubuntu?
[18:40] <j1mc> luissss: donde esta?  mexico?
[18:41] <luissss> i need help with my xubuntu
[18:41] <luissss> asi es
[18:41] <j1mc> luissss: en espanol - join #ubuntu-es
[18:41] <luissss> de méxico
[18:41] <j1mc> or you can write english here.  :)
[18:41] <j1mc> what do you need help with?
[18:42] <luissss> ok thaks jlmc
[18:42] <luissss> i can use a traslator?
[18:43] <j1mc> ok
[18:43] <luissss> I have problems with my xubuntu, suddenly puts the black screen
[18:44] <j1mc> when does that happen?  when you click something?
[18:46] <luissss> yes
[18:46] <luissss> mmm
[18:46] <j1mc> luissss: i think you could probably find better support (support in spanish) in #ubuntu-es
[18:47] <j1mc> it would be easier.  :)
[18:47] <luissss> when I open one or but programs, I happen to me yesterday when it tries open gambas, mono, firefox and @msn
[18:48] <luissss> ok
[18:48] <j1mc> lo siento  :/
[18:49] <luissss> don worry
[18:49] <Raz0R> k
[18:49] <luissss> lo entiendo
[18:49] <luissss> muchas gracias Jlmc
[18:50] <j1mc> no aye es una problema  :)
[18:51] <luissss> ok
[18:51] <luissss> im go
[18:51] <luissss> see you Jlmc
[18:51] <luissss> and tahnk you
[19:06] <Raz0R> can anyoone help me set up wpa in wifi radar
[19:26] <Raz0R> how do i set a command to run at boottime
[19:31] <sirjoebob> hey all... i am running xubuntu 8.04 and i use a highly customized gui environment. HOWEVER, when i run programs meant for KDE, they dont follow all the same visual style rules. is there a way to change this?
[19:32] <vinnl> sirjoebob, you could set a Qt-theme similar to your GTK-theme, and I believe there also was an effort for a Qt theme engine that copies your GTK theme, but that's probably not stable yet
[19:33] <vinnl> sirjoebob, you can also do it the other way around: install gtk-qt-engine and have all your GTK applications pick up the Qt theme
[19:33] <sirjoebob> stable is not for me anyways... bleeding-edge ftw. :) i will try that
[19:34] <sirjoebob> thanks for the tip
[19:34] <vinnl> ^.^
[19:48] <sirjoebob> thanks for the tip/quit
[19:54] <wbmj> Hello all
[21:58] <slow-motion> hi
[21:58] <vinnl> Hey slow-motion
[21:59] <slow-motion> hi vinnl
[21:59] <neozen-work> salutations all
[22:03] <Raz0R> FINALLY i am connected via WPA hahha
[22:04] <vinnl> Raz0R, yay! :)
[22:04] <Raz0R> vinnl haha lol spent over a week trying
[22:04] <vinnl> Raz0R, so what did the trick?
[22:05] <Raz0R> vinnl i removed all networking gui software like nm, wicd, etc
[22:05] <neozen-work> LoL
[22:05] <Raz0R> installed wifi radar, set up wpa supplicant with about a hundred diff configurations until one finally worked
[22:05] <vinnl> That must've been of great relief ;-)
[22:07] <neozen-work> nothing more frustrating then having hardware take forever to convince to do something sane
[22:07] <neozen-work> ....*damn macs
[22:07]  * neozen-work grins
[22:08] <Raz0R> lol
[22:09] <Raz0R> i think it was a good thing though as i have no experience with linux before this, and i think ive learnt more this way than if i had just been working properly from plug in :)
[22:09] <Raz0R> ...maybe
[22:09] <vinnl> Yeah, but then again... It's nice if things Just Work :P
[22:10] <Raz0R> vinnl actually, yes it was most antagonizing
[22:11] <Raz0R> there is one more thing i need help with
[22:11] <neozen-work> I've found the do it yourself option works quite well, provided documentation is both adequate and open for change
[22:12] <Raz0R> i need to get wpa_supplicant to start at boot time, along with wifi radar
[22:12] <Raz0R> wifi radar is done sorry, just need to run this at startup sudo wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf - can anyone tell me how?
[22:13] <vinnl> Does it need to run when you boot up or when you log in? (I only know how to do the latter :( )
[22:13] <Raz0R> when i login will do as im the only user
[22:14] <Raz0R> yeah im not gonna need remote login or anything
[22:14] <vinnl> Raz0R, then you can do it using Autostarted Applications from Applications->Settings->Settings Manager
[22:14] <vinnl> (Or do some Googling :)
[22:15] <Raz0R> vinnl lol thanks
[22:17] <Raz0R> ok lol. lets see if it still works after a reboot
[22:17] <Raz0R> wish me luck :D
[22:18] <vinnl> Good luck :)
[22:34] <si10cybin> anyone able to help with a missing /etc/group?
[22:40] <TheSheep> si10cybin: might be difficult
[22:41] <TheSheep> si10cybin: some of the GIDs are generated, and thenumbers depend on the order in which you install things
[22:41] <TheSheep> si10cybin: but here's mine if that helps you: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/81076/
[22:42] <si10cybin> thanks
[22:42] <si10cybin> it's a new install, i have only installed ndiswrapper on top of the default
[22:42] <si10cybin> i was thinking of copying the default off of the install cd
[22:43] <si10cybin> i am in the recovery console of the install cd, (recovery console in grub doesn't work)
[22:43] <si10cybin> i am new to linux
[22:43] <si10cybin> could you please guide me how to find the file on the cd and copy it?
[22:43] <TheSheep> it should be in /etc/group
[22:44] <si10cybin> it's missing
[22:44] <si10cybin> oh you mean on the cd
[22:44] <si10cybin> forgive the noob
[22:44] <TheSheep> when you are running the livecd, / is different than your hdd
[22:44] <si10cybin> it's the alternative install cd
[22:45] <TheSheep> you will have to mount your partition
[22:45] <si10cybin> it mounted the partition
[22:45] <TheSheep> your system partition, I think there is an option for that on the alt cd
[22:45] <TheSheep> ok, now switch to second console with alt+ctrl+f2
[22:45] <si10cybin> ok
[22:46] <si10cybin> done
[22:46] <TheSheep> you should see the livecd's /etc/group there, when you do: ls /etc/group
[22:46] <si10cybin> when i type that it responds with one line saying '/etc/group'
[22:46] <TheSheep> yes, that's correct
[22:46] <si10cybin> cool
[22:47] <TheSheep> type 'mount' to see where your system partition is mounted
[22:48] <si10cybin> is it the one that is type ext2?
[22:48] <TheSheep> yes, it's probably something like /target
[22:48] <TheSheep> or /media/something
[22:48] <si10cybin> it says '/dev/sda1 on /target'
[22:48] <TheSheep> great
[22:49] <TheSheep> now, type: ls /target/etc/group
[22:49] <amirman> i'm thinking of installing xubuntu on a laptop for a computer illiterate relative, what are the drawbacks of xubuntu on this front compared to ubuntu?
[22:49] <si10cybin> it says /target/etc/group
[22:49] <slow-motion> do i get 8.04.1 automatic when i make the normal updates?
[22:49] <TheSheep> amirman: less programs, the programs have less automation, some things have to be configured in terminal, not with gui
[22:50] <crimsun> slow-motion: hardy-updates and hardy-security, yes.
[22:50] <amirman> TheSheep: this user will only be using the internet and play some simple games, how much configuring would i have to do before i can give them the laptop?
[22:51] <TheSheep> amirman: how is the internet connected?
[22:51] <slow-motion> thx crimsun
[22:51] <TheSheep> si10cybin: this means the file exists
[22:51] <si10cybin> ok
[22:51] <TheSheep> si10cybin: cat /target/etc/group will show its contents
[22:51] <amirman> TheSheep: well they dont have a router set up as of now, but i'm guessing they will get one and use it wirelessly
[22:52] <si10cybin> it only has three lines in it
[22:52] <si10cybin> shadow:x:42
[22:52] <TheSheep> amirman: then it all depends on whether the wireless card in the laptop is supported natively
[22:52] <si10cybin> nogroup:x:65534:
[22:52] <TheSheep> si10cybin: ok, ok
[22:52] <si10cybin> nathan:x:1000:
[22:53] <TheSheep> si10cybin: so, if you are decided to copy the one from livecd, do: cp /etc/group /target/etc/group
[22:53] <amirman> TheSheep: not sure, it's a dell d505, i'm not sure what wireless device is in it though
[22:53] <TheSheep> si10cybin: you will also have to edit it and change the name of the group 1000 to 'nathan', it will be probably 'ubuntu' or something like that
[22:53] <si10cybin> ok
[22:53] <amirman> TheSheep: wait i see now, it's broadcom B43
[22:53] <si10cybin> what command to edit it?
[22:54] <TheSheep> si10cybin: nano /target/etc/group
[22:54] <TheSheep> si10cybin: then ctrl+x to save and exit
[22:54] <si10cybin> actually the one on the cd only has 'root:x:0:'
[22:55] <si10cybin> but i think i cant restore it from here
[22:55] <si10cybin> there's some weblinks i found
[22:55] <si10cybin> thanks
[22:56] <rabby> hello
[22:57] <TheSheep> amirman: I'm not sure whether it's supported, you should check the wiki. that's one thing that might require some setting up
[22:57] <rabby> why does apt-get install linux-restricted-modules  not install the fcpci on my system although the package's description says it did?!
[22:58] <TheSheep> rabby: what's fcpci and how do you tell it's not installed?
[23:00] <th0r> rabby, it should be in /lib/linux-restricted-modules
[23:00] <rabby> TheSheep: AVM ISDN Fritz!Card
[23:00] <TheSheep> waah, packages.ubuntu.com doesn't work :(
[23:00] <rabby> it can be found here: /lib/linux-restricted-modules/2.6.22-14-generic/fcpci
[23:00] <vinnl> TheSheep, I noticed :(
[23:00] <rabby> but modprobe fcpci tells me, there is no module to load :(
[23:01] <TheSheep> rabby: what does uname -r say?
[23:02] <rabby> 2.6.22-14-server
[23:02] <TheSheep> rabby: install linux-restricted-modules-server
[23:02] <Genelyk> hi
[23:02] <rabby> think i have to upgrade first..?
[23:03] <vinnl> Hey Genelyk
[23:03] <TheSheep> rabby: no, you are just running a -server kernel, and restricted modules installs modules for -generic by default
[23:03] <vinnl> Raz0R, and? :)
[23:03] <rabby> ah ok, i will do so, after. the upgrade is running already...
[23:03] <rabby> thanks so far ;-)
[23:04] <Raz0R> vinnl hmm got connected but was a bit complex lol
[23:04] <RandyboY> What can i do to get my folders and mounts back on my desktop? Had some trouble with some mounts and since that it has been gone... No menus when i right-click desktop either...
[23:05] <TheSheep> RandyboY: press alt+f2 and type 'xfdesktop'
[23:07] <RandyboY> TheSheep, that file isnt there. But when i open desktop in browser, all my folders and files are there...
[23:07] <TheSheep> RandyboY: it's a command
[23:07] <TheSheep> RandyboY: to start a program that displays your desktop
[23:10] <Raz0R> vinnl can you check my pastebin please: http://pastebin.com/m5d27902c
[23:10] <RandyboY> TheSheep, "Couldnt open <<file:///home/randy/xfdesktop>> , "Location or file wasnt found"
[23:11] <vinnl> Raz0R, that's like Chinese to me :P
[23:11] <Raz0R> ah ok
[23:11] <Raz0R> lol
[23:11] <Raz0R> god damn thing went crazy lol
[23:11] <vinnl> xD
[23:11] <Raz0R> once i did sudo dhclient wlan0 it was cool
[23:12] <Raz0R> the script didnt seem to run at boot either
[23:12] <TheSheep> RandyboY: wait, where did you type that?
[23:12] <Raz0R> if i type   in a sudo command will it need a pwd or will it just run it?
[23:12] <TheSheep> Raz0R: where do you type it?
[23:13] <RandyboY> TheSheep, in the box that appeared when i typed alt+f2
[23:13] <TheSheep> RandyboY: and you only type 'xfdesktop', nothing else?
[23:13] <RandyboY> TheSheep, true
[23:13] <TheSheep> RandyboY: can you get to a terminal?
[23:13] <RandyboY> yeah
[23:13] <Raz0R> TheSheep in autostarted apps>add app
[23:14] <TheSheep> RandyboY: type it in a terminal
[23:14] <TheSheep> Raz0R: it will ask for the password the first time it's run, use 'gksu' instead of 'sudo' to have a graphical prompt
[23:14] <Raz0R> TheSheep ok thankyou, so it asked for a password i just didnt see it?
[23:15] <TheSheep> Raz0R: probably
[23:15] <TheSheep> Raz0R: why aren't you using the network-manager?
[23:15] <RandyboY> TheSheep, its the xfce4 desktop youre talking about? Ive installed and using gnome...
[23:15] <Raz0R> ok cool
[23:15] <Raz0R> TheSheep it doesnt work
[23:17] <TheSheep> RandyboY: ah, then ask on #ubuntu
[23:17] <RandyboY> TheSheep, uhm, ok :)
[23:17] <Raz0R> is there anyway i can make one command run before another one?
[23:17] <TheSheep> RandyboY: but you rpobably want 'nautilus' instead
[23:17] <TheSheep> Raz0R: write a short script and run that
[23:18] <Raz0R> ok brb
[23:18] <RandyboY> TheSheep, that worked :-) Thanks