[00:00] <ubuntu> and deleted the /dev/sda5 partition from parted
[00:00] <ubuntu> when I rebooted
[00:00] <ubuntu> i get GRUB error 17
[00:00] <ubuntu> I think
[00:00] <ubuntu> i have booted from a liveCD right now
[00:00] <ubuntu> what have I broken
[00:00] <ubuntu> and how do I fix it?
[00:01] <chuxxsss> ok thanks anyway Bascule
[00:01] <bascule> welcome
[00:01] <chuxxsss> may next week as I am away on work during the week
[00:05] <whoosh> hi all. trying to install opera web browser, but can't find it in either adept or synaptic package managers
[00:06] <BAMAToNE> sorry, nick was taken
[00:11] <tyfon> http://www.opera.com/download/linux/ <-- deb packs here..
[00:18] <LoneShadow> my mouse just froze, anyway I can reset the mouse with out reloading X ?
[00:19] <l3x> oi
[00:20] <l3x> whoosh: you can add ubuntu parter repo and find opera there
[00:21] <l3x> BAMAToNE: add ubuntu parter repo and ther you will find opera (a little older version though)
[00:22] <m00gle_> Is Kubuntu stiill going now Vista is out?
[00:23] <Crell> huh?
[00:23] <LoneShadow> troll ?
[00:24] <m00gle_> Nah .. I'm serious
[00:24] <LoneShadow> serious troll ? :)
[00:25] <m00gle_> don't you like questions?
[00:25] <Crell> m00gle_: If anything, Visata being out is even more reason to use Kubuntu instead. :-)
[00:25] <LoneShadow> its not about the question, wondering why are you asking that question
[00:26] <m00gle_> I thought Vista may have killed Linux off
[00:26] <Crell> LoneShadow: He's a comedian.
[00:27] <m00gle_> I installed Ubuntu on my mates lappie and it made him cry
[00:27] <m00gle_> :D
[00:27] <miraclemaxim_> with happiness?
[00:27] <m00gle_> nah ... he spent 3 days trying to install a USB modem
[00:28] <m00gle_> hehe
[00:28] <dsmith_> 3 days?
[00:28] <m00gle_> a 2 minute job in Vista
[00:29] <LoneShadow> so ?
[00:29] <Crell> m00gle_: Now you are trolling.
[00:29] <m00gle_> nooo
[00:29] <LoneShadow> hehe
[00:29] <Crell> Hardware support sucks on all platforms.  It's just a question of which hardware.
[00:29] <dsmith_> Crell: I was about to say that
[00:30] <m00gle_> I'm just relating my experiences
[00:30] <Crell> I usually find Linux to support more hardware by shear number than Windows.
[00:30] <Crell> Cheaply made stuff tends to work better in Windows because it is all software, and the software is Windows only.
[00:30] <dsmith_> well, this is fact. Its faster for me to install printers for linux then it does on windsows, most spec. xerox and HP
[00:30] <Crell> aka "WinModems".
[00:32] <m00gle_> I expect you use Kubuntu cos It's free
[00:34] <dsmith_> nah, I use what works..
[00:34] <trycatch> Im sorry for this... nevertheless i need do it.. Alguém pode me falar qual é o canal do Ubuntu de ajudar br?
[00:34] <m00gle_> I borrowed my Vista from College so thats free as well
[00:35] <dsmith_> [Ignore] Added m00gle_!* to your ignore list.
[00:35] <dsmith_> anyways....
[00:35] <m00gle_> :(
[00:36] <trycatch> rolf
[00:36] <m00gle_> stop being mean to me
[00:37] <m00gle_> chatrooms should be friendly places
[00:37] <m00gle_> apart from the lesbian rooms
[00:37] <miraclemaxim_> difference between illegal and free
[00:38] <m00gle_> I'm trying Vista for a year
[00:38] <m00gle_> If I like it I may buy it
[00:40] <m00gle_> Bill Gates won't mind I'm sure
[00:52] <BAMAToNE> 3x- thanks, got it working now
[00:52] <BAMAToNE> have a nice night, all
[00:55] <gsls> ...
[01:13] <fungos> hi, how do I use kde autostart feature only on second desktop?
[01:13] <fungos> the app to autostart must open aways on second desktop when kde launch
[01:15] <mlLK> so is compiz pretty buggy w/ kde?
[01:16] <mlLK> seems like compiz gets more attention from gnomers.
[01:16] <Maeva> no it works good here
[01:16] <Maeva> nice desktop effects
[01:16] <Maeva> you can use other themes to than oxygen
[01:16] <Maeva> fungos: try in ubuntu channel otherwise there are 1300 people that can help you
[01:16] <mlLK> anytime i try to play w/ kwd my title bars crash
[01:17] <Maeva> ow
[01:17] <Maeva> I had it toot with kde 4.0
[01:17] <mlLK> so kde's window themes aren't compatiable?
[01:17] <Maeva> kde 4.1 is in my personal opinion less buggy
[01:17] <mlLK> kde4-kdw or somping?
[01:17] <mlLK> i read otherwise, but ok.
[01:17] <Maeva> it's released few days ago but not officialy supported by ubuntu 8.04
[01:17] <mlLK> you mean as far as how kde and gnome crossover
[01:17] <Maeva> i dont know about that :)
[01:18] <mlLK> lol
[01:18] <mlLK> i personally like kde's features better
[01:18] <Maeva> oh
[01:18] <Maeva> yeah kafeine, evolution e-mail, amsn
[01:18] <mlLK> as far as the packages that are included w/ it and how the transperant the interface is
[01:19] <Maeva> oh
[01:19] <Maeva> sometimes i swith cbetween gnome and kde
[01:19] <mlLK> ya, vbox kicks butt
[01:19] <redfive> how do you get it to remember your nvidia drivers?
[01:20] <Maeva> whats vbox
[01:20] <Maeva> I didn't install another window manager yet
[01:20] <mlLK> sudo aptitude search nvidia
[01:20] <redfive> everytime i reboot i have to reinstall
[01:20] <mlLK> redfive: try envyng
[01:20] <Maeva> i have nvidia card
[01:21] <Maeva> nvidia x server settings shows it works ok
[01:21] <mlLK> redfive: aptitude install nvidia-glx-new-envyng
[01:21] <mpsan> Pendrivelinux says to copy a bunch of files from livecd but I do not see /media/kubuntu8...where is it?
[01:21] <Maeva> driver version 169.12
[01:21] <Maeva> should I update it ?
[01:22] <Maeva> I have the GeForce 7050 PV / NVIDIA nForce 630a (GPU 0) :-)
[01:22] <mlLK> i dunno; what nvidia drivers are you using?
[01:23] <Maeva> well
[01:23] <Maeva> the gfx-new
[01:23] <mlLK> you should be fine
[01:24] <Maeva> yeah it sure works
[01:24] <mlLK> sudo apt-get update
[01:24] <mlLK> sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:24] <Maeva> but i've heard there are 177 version
[01:24] <mlLK> what kernel are you using?
[01:24] <mlLK> it seems like they did just release a shat-ton of new nvidia drivers tho
[01:25] <Maeva>  2.6.24-18-generic #1 SMP Wed May 28 19:28:38 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:25] <mlLK> ya you should get the new ones
[01:25] <Maeva> yeah but do I have the latest ?
[01:25] <Maeva> ok
[01:25] <Maeva> I did a uname -a in Konsole :)
[01:25] <mlLK> they're out for generic and server
[01:25] <mlLK> yay
[01:25] <mlLK> brb
[01:27] <mlLK> Maeva: which desktop do you like more?
[01:28] <Maeva> difficult to say
[01:28] <Maeva> kde4 is nice with the plasma and widgets
[01:28] <mlLK> i know me too;
[01:29] <Maeva> i have kde3 also installed
[01:29] <Maeva> do the programs of kde3 appear on my kde4 also ?
[01:29] <mlLK> i dunno; prbly
[01:29] <mlLK> it don't matter imo
[01:29] <mlLK> it's just an interface
[01:29] <jonathan_> hello!
[01:29] <Maeva> yeah but you see 2 icons for the same program
[01:30] <Maeva> on kde3 and on kde4 it's annoying
[01:30] <jonathan_> is there an opportunity to change the aspect ratio in gwenview?
[01:30] <mlLK> it is; they need a vm release
[01:30] <mlLK> so it'll alternate roots
[01:30] <Maeva> hi jonathan_ i dont know mate ubuntu is big channel with 1300 people
[01:30] <mlLK> or images
[01:31] <mlLK> the only way to install two roots is to disable each hd prior boot in cmos
[01:31] <mlLK> so they never see each other
[01:31] <mlLK> lol i've tried so many different scenarios it's almost depressing
[01:32] <mlLK> someone that knew enough of grub or fstab could prbly create an image that could run gnome and kde independent of each other
[01:33] <Maeva> oh
[01:33] <mlLK> man i kinda miss gnome. :(
[01:34] <Maeva> lol
[01:35] <mlLK> kde has some great apps, but it just seems like gnome gets greater package support
[01:35] <senethri1>                         
[01:36] <mlLK> Maeva: have you ran vbox yet?
[01:36] <Maeva> no
[01:37] <Maeva> it's a window manager ?
[01:37] <mlLK> no its a virtual host
[01:37] <mlLK> lets you run an os in whatever
[01:38] <Maeva> i only got this os
[01:38] <mlLK> !virtualbox
[01:38] <Maeva> something like x there are many others
[01:39] <mlLK> this one is open-source tho, and is starting to generate a good following
[01:39] <mlLK> i seriously run windows faster thru linux than windows
[01:39] <mlLK> its crazy
[01:39] <Maeva> (blackbox, xfce, icewm, ... twm)
[01:39] <Maeva> know what I mean ?
[01:39] <mlLK> ?
[01:39] <mlLK> !blackbox
[01:40] <Maeva> !fluxbox
[01:40] <Maeva> aha
[01:40] <mlLK> oh right
[01:40] <mlLK> it's not a window manager tho
[01:41] <mlLK> http://rexosophy.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/vbox2.png
[01:41] <mlLK> it run's an OS like an application
[01:41] <mlLK> any OS
[01:42] <Maeva> when I choose system and than desktop effects I can change the themes
[01:42] <Maeva> the desktop theme is Oxygen
[01:44] <Dolgo> little boxes
[01:44] <Dolgo> on the hillside
[01:44] <Dolgo> etc
[01:44] <Dolgo> etc
[01:44] <mlLK> i just need to do some more reading up on dpkg
[01:45] <Maeva> how do i change the look & feel again of kde
[01:45] <mlLK> system settings
[01:45] <Maeva> yeah got it thx
[01:50] <mlLK> Maeva: i ussually just do a search w/ aptitude and if there is an 'i' in the first column, it's installed
[01:51] <Maeva> where do I find the aptitude
[01:51] <mlLK> type aptitude in the konsole
[01:52] <mlLK> or search w/ adept
[01:52] <mlLK> i think that's the kde package-manager
[01:52] <Maeva> The OpenCompositing Project brings 3D desktop visual effects that improve usability of the X Window System and provide increased productivity.
[01:52] <Maeva> This package contains the compizconfig settings manager.
[01:52] <mlLK> well, whenever you install something you're doing it thru a package-manager
[01:53] <mlLK> Maeva: menu > system > adept
[01:53] <Maeva> adept installer
[01:53] <mlLK> is what manages all your applications
[01:53] <mlLK> and gets the updates, etc
[01:54] <Maeva> yeah i know
[01:54] <mlLK> but that is basically just aptitude
[01:56] <Maeva> yeah it is
[01:56] <mlLK> k
[01:56] <mlLK> which, i think, is basically apt-get which is dpkg
[01:58] <Maeva> where do I find that compiz program in system ?
[01:58] <mlLK> the package or where it's running from?
[01:58] <Maeva> where it's running from
[01:59] <mlLK> i ussually just run: sudo aptitude search the-package | less
[01:59] <mlLK> you can type: which compiz
[01:59] <Maeva> in k
[01:59] <mlLK> should tell you
[01:59] <Maeva> i installed it allready
[01:59] <Maeva> to run it
[02:00] <mlLK> i've always had a lot of problems on linux w/ this computer
[02:02] <mlLK> mostly my video-card would hang once it boots up k/ubuntu
[02:02] <Maeva> no I mean how do I run the program ?? I installed it
[02:02] <Maeva> under kde4
[02:02] <mlLK> mmm
[02:02] <mlLK> alt+ctrl+backspace will restart kde
[02:02] <mlLK> not linux
[02:02] <mlLK> but prompt you back to login
[02:02] <mlLK> should be there after that
[02:03] <Maeva> you don't understand my question nevermind
[02:03] <Daisuke-Laptop> mlLK: it restarts gdm/kdm entirely
[02:03] <leba__> how do I set my video board to run in a economic mode whenever it's not being needed at full power ?
[02:03] <Maeva> i just wanted to use compiz fusion
[02:03] <Daisuke-Laptop> Maeva: once you've installed it, you should be able to go through system settings to turn on "desktop effects", which is compiz
[02:03] <Maeva> where do i find it ? must be easy question :)
[02:04] <mlLK> !compiz-fusion
[02:04] <Maeva> oh my taskbar dissapeared :)
[02:04] <mlLK> lol
[02:04] <mlLK> i removed everything
[02:04] <mlLK> as far as compiz
[02:04] <Maeva> hmmm
[02:04] <Maeva> how do i get my taskbar back
[02:05] <Dolgo> [03:02] <Dolgo> en tout cas, je suis bluffé par kde, si un windozien me demande si linux est compliqué, je lui dirai "ouais c'est la merde, tu passes ton temps à régler des saloperies sans nom, mais essayes kubuntu quand meme"
[02:05] <Dolgo> oooops
[02:05] <Dolgo> sorry
[02:05] <mlLK> menu > system > desktop effects : disable it
[02:05] <Dolgo> damned scroll click =)
[02:05] <mlLK> is how i did it
[02:05] <Maeva> no milk
[02:06] <Maeva> I can only use tab and alt right now to swith between programs
[02:06] <mlLK> alt+ctrl+backspace then
[02:06] <Maeva> then i need to re login
[02:06] <mlLK> i was having the same issue
[02:06] <Maeva> must be another way i'm pretty sure
[02:06] <mlLK> aptitude install compiz-config-settings or somethign
[02:06] <mlLK> will create a menu slot
[02:07] <Maeva> i'm not sure it has something to do with compiz
[02:07] <Maeva> gonna reboot than pfff cya
[02:07] <leba__> well I think I should concider in to set my processor and video board to be in economic mode when it's not beeing required. Does anybody here know how to do that ?
[02:09] <mlLK> leba__: you sure?
[02:09] <leba__> mlLK, depends on what are you talking about.
[02:10] <mlLK> leba__: that's just such a strong assumption
[02:10] <mlLK> maybe try the restricted drivers
[02:10] <leba__> mlLK, yeah, it's a very powerful thing.
[02:11] <leba__> I don't think you know what you are talking about here.
[02:11] <mlLK> http://ubuntuguide.org
[02:11] <mlLK> that was the first place i went
[02:11] <mlLK> first time i ever installed it
[02:12] <Maeva> Configuration file "/home/Maeva/.kde4/share/config/klipperrc" not writable. --> I get this error when I boot what's wrong ? it's Klipper
[02:14] <mlLK> Maeva: klipper?
[02:14] <Maeva> yeps
[02:14] <Maeva> klembord denk ik
[02:14] <Maeva> anyway ze zijn me aan helpen in andere channel :)
[02:14] <mlLK> ??LOL
[02:15] <mlLK>  sudo aptitude remove compiz-core compiz-plugins compizconfig-backend-kconfig compizconfig-settings-manager libcompizconfig0 python-compizconfig
[02:15] <mlLK> i'd just get rid of compiz altogether
[02:15] <mlLK> !compiz-kde
[02:16] <mlLK> !compizconfig-backend-kconfig
[02:16] <mlLK> !compiz -v
[02:16] <mlLK> !compiz
[02:17] <mlLK> kde developers prbly get a lot of grief for compiz
[02:17] <mlLK> !envyng-qt
[02:17] <mlLK> !envyng
[02:18] <mlLK> is more or less the only way to make compiz work
[02:18] <mlLK> i gotta eat
[02:18] <mlLK> good luck Maeva
[02:19] <leba__> mlLK, I think I already got the correct drive for my video board.
[02:20] <leba__> mlLK, what I am looking foward is a way to set the system to be set in economic mode somehow.
[02:21] <althair> Hola. Alguien sabe como hacer funcionar el quake 3 en linux? (Hardy-64Bits)
[02:21] <leba__> !es | althair
[02:21] <Maeva> bye
[02:22] <reagleBRKLN> anyone using compiz? hi, i want to use a plugin that'll allow me three viewports, with touching up/down edges moving between. I've enabled the wall plugin, but the edges don't do anything. (Kubuntu 8.04, KDE 3.5.9)
[02:22] <althair> Ok. anyone knows how to okay quake 3 under Hardy 64-bit?
[02:22] <althair> how to play, sorry
[02:23] <althair> the problem is related to glibc-2.0
[02:28] <hvontres|home> is packages.ubuntu.com down?
[02:29] <box> no
[02:31] <hvontres|home> box: hmmm, thanks
[02:32] <box> hvontres : Currently the server is up and seems to be working fine
[02:34] <hvontres|home> I guess something is hosed on my end then, I keep getting timeouts
[02:40] <bruce__> I have a older laptop and want to put Kubuntu on it.
[02:40] <bruce__> It only has a 4 gig hard drive
[02:40] <bruce__> is there a verson that would would with this size of hard drive?
[02:40] <Dolgo> use an other distribution, kubuntu is heavey
[02:41] <Dolgo> try debian
[02:41] <bruce__> is it easy to install?
[02:41] <Dolgo> easy but fast
[02:41] <Dolgo> yes i think
[02:41] <Dolgo> but i'm noob in linux
[02:42] <bruce__> thanks
[02:42] <Dolgo> debian is good for old comp
[02:43] <Dolgo> no prob
[02:43] <bruce__> this laptop is a 450 megahertz
[02:44] <Maeva> i'm in gnome now and I see a dolphin 3.5 icon and a 4.0 one, kinda stupid eh ?
[02:45] <Maeva> kppp also 2 icons
[02:47] <bruce__> Thanks again
[02:48] <mpsan> Are there any commands I can use in the live cd to get my internet going?
[02:50] <mpsan> sometimes it comes up and other times it can not work. I can not ping.
[02:50] <mpsan> Need something like an ipconfig in windows
[02:51] <Maeva> maybe you can only use it when you install it
[02:52] <mpsan> No, it has worked before. But now it works sometimes and other times it does not. I am trying to create a pendrive
[02:53] <Maeva> ok try asking in the ubuntu channel (1300 people)
[02:53] <mpsan> OK, thank you.
[03:00] <needhelpwithmusi> i need help with my sound device, it is giving me this error  Audio output unavailable. Device is busy. ()
[03:00] <needhelpwithmusi> i believe my USB is still using it
[03:16] <tsuna27> hello
[03:16] <tsuna27> i need help unziping a file
[03:19] <nuxil> what file
[03:23] <tsuna27> what do u mean
[03:24] <tsuna27> its .rar
[03:24] <nuxil> do you have unrar installed
[03:24] <nuxil> !unrar
[03:24] <tsuna27> what does !unrar mean
[03:24] <Maeva> to unpack it
[03:24] <nuxil> read what ubottu sasy
[03:24] <Maeva> it's like .zip a compress format
[03:25] <tsuna27> whats does the ! mean
[03:25] <Maeva> a command here in the chat channel for the bot
[03:25] <hvontres|home> !help
[03:25] <nuxil> 0,o
[03:26] <tsuna27> o
[03:29] <tsuna27> so do i need 2 install unrar?
[03:30] <Maeva> yeah guess so
[03:30] <tsuna27> or just use the konsole
[03:30] <Maeva> its like winzip for windows
[03:30] <Maeva> unrar it
[03:30] <jws> tsuna27: unrar should be installed as part of the core packages
[03:30] <tsuna27> how can i download it
[03:30] <jws> just runu
[03:30] <jws> run8
[03:30] <jws> unrar e foo
[03:31] <jws> s/run8/run
[03:31] <tsuna27> ???
[03:31] <tsuna27> what do i do
[03:31] <jws> tsuna27: sudo-apt install unrar
[03:31] <jws> or something like that
[03:33] <tsuna27> sudo-apt install unrar does not exist
[03:33] <jws> tsuna27: try search for it. sudo-apt search unrar
[03:34] <jws> i dont use kubuntu
[03:34] <jws> so not sure
[03:34] <jws> what the package might be called
[03:34] <Maeva> tsuna27:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=171249
[03:34] <Maeva> sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[03:35] <tsuna27> sudo apt-get install unrar?
[03:35] <tsuna27> whats the diff
[03:35] <Maeva> no
[03:35] <Maeva> sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[03:36] <tsuna27> sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[03:36] <tsuna27> i mean
[03:36] <tsuna27> .
[03:36] <tsuna27> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:36] <tsuna27> is only available from another source
[03:36] <tsuna27> E: Package unrar-nonfree has no installation candidate
[03:36] <Maeva> normally it is unrar
[03:37] <Maeva> type it in console
[03:37] <Maeva> or go in ubuntu channel for help from 1300 people
[03:37] <tsuna27> i did sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[03:37] <tsuna27> i mean sudo apt-get install unrar and it worked
[03:37] <Maeva> nice
[03:37] <tsuna27> now all i do is
[03:38] <tsuna27> unzip <file>
[03:39] <Maeva> yeah i think
[03:42] <tsuna27> i get unrar <command> -<switch 1> -<switch N> <archive> <files...>
[03:42] <tsuna27>                <@listfiles...> <path_to_extract\>
[03:42] <tsuna27> ?
[03:42] <nuxil> !ark | tsuna27,
[03:42] <nuxil> !info ark
[03:42] <tsuna27> fuck it im goin back 2 windos
[03:43] <Maeva> no dont give up
[03:43] <Maeva> linux is free and faster and no viruses
[03:44] <nuxil> tsuna27, are you a quitter ?
[03:45] <nuxil> my mom said. no one likes a quitter
[03:45] <nuxil> :p
[03:45] <nuxil> maybe thats why i still smoke :o'
[03:50] <tsuna27> how do i get into the ubuntu channel
[03:51] <nuxil>  /join #ubuntu
[03:53] <tsuna27> thx pce
[04:12] <gargoyle76> I have a quick question about compiz
[04:13] <gargoyle76> can anyone help
[04:15] <crimsun> you might want to try #ubuntu-effects or somesuch
[04:16] <mr---t-> !compiz
[04:31] <rabiddachshund> What's the best way to consolidate a music library?
[04:34] <rabiddachshund> search for duplicates*
[04:40] <oscar> español
[04:40] <oscar> plis
[04:40] <mr---t-> !es
[04:40] <moan__> hola oscar
[04:40] <oscar> hola
[04:40] <oscar> !!
[04:40] <oscar> hablas español
[04:40] <moan__> yo hablo español pero no soy para nada un experto
[04:40] <mr---t-> !en
[04:41] <oscar> de donde sos???
[04:41] <moan__> si soy de montevideo uruguay
[04:41] <oscar> nos estan corriendo me parece
[04:41] <moan__> na
[04:41] <oscar> pasate a la de ubuntu
[04:41] <oscar> ok
[04:41] <moan__> es un bot
[04:41] <mr---t-> no
[04:41] <oscar> jejej no me digas
[04:41] <oscar> genial
[04:41] <oscar> jeje
[04:42] <moan__> oscar: de donde sos vos?
[04:42] <mr---t-> !es
[04:42] <moan__> jajaj
[04:42] <oscar> bs as
[04:42] <moan__> si nos estan corriendo
[04:42] <oscar> buenos aires
[04:42] <oscar> jaja
[04:42] <oscar> pasate
[04:42] <moan__> vamos a la de ubuntu
[04:42] <oscar> a ubuntu
[04:45] <Schijnn> How do I change permissions on a secondary hard disk?
[04:46] <Schijnn> I have a system drive and a data drive.  The owner of the data drive is set to root, and I want to change it to myself, but it keeps saying 'Operation Not Permitted'
[04:47] <mr---t-> !sudo
[04:48] <Schijnn> Yeah, I've tried that.  It still says 'Operation Not Permitted'
[04:48] <anom01y> is kde4 buggy or does anyone use it ?
[04:49] <Paco_Paco> guys i need help getting blue tooth headset to run on kubuntu
[04:49] <Schijnn> It's mostly been working fine for me
[04:49] <Schijnn> kde4, I mean
[04:49] <nuxil> anom01y, its buggy and almostt everyone uses it
[04:49] <nuxil> :p
[04:50] <anom01y> well I dont know if I should upgrade to it or go by the 'if it aint broke dont fix it' rule
[04:50] <steelromano> hi
[04:51] <anom01y> is it more demanding on resources ?
[04:51] <Schijnn> anom01y: Well, that would be fine if KDE3 weren't broke  ;P
[04:53] <nuxil> anom01y, some say no -- i say yes
[04:53] <anom01y> maybe before I upgrade to kde4 should I upgrade the kernel ?
[04:54] <anom01y> !kernel
[04:54] <anom01y> !dist-upgrade
[04:54] <anom01y> hmm
[04:54] <anom01y> help?
[04:54] <anom01y> nuxil: should I dist-upgrade before installing kde4 ?
[04:55] <nuxil> anom01y, look at the topic.. thers a link with guides
[05:00] <compy> I'm having a font problem using kde 4.1, it seems programs such as adept or konversation are displaying really small default fonts. How can I fix this?
[05:00] <compy> sorry, wrong room.
[05:02] <steelromano> hola
[05:08] <leandro> f
[05:09] <anom01y> how do I do a dist-upgrade ?
[05:17] <leandro> 1
[05:17] <leandro> preciso de ajuda
[05:17] <leandro> alguém pode me ajudar?
[05:17] <mr---t-> !es
[05:19] <leandro> fuck off
[05:20] <yareckon_> ok, so at least I know that this is the place for a flameware
[05:20] <yareckon_> and misspelling contests
[05:21] <mr---t-> !language
[05:21] <tsuna27> hi
[05:21] <tsuna27> i can no longer use the alt f2 shortcut
[05:22] <chipbuddy> I've been trying to get ati restricted drivers on 8.04 to work, but i've had a lot of problems. So just now i installed 7.10 and it looks like restricted drivers are working just fine. what gives? why does this work in one version of ubuntu, but not the other?
[05:25] <anom01y> I am trying to follow the instructions to upgrade to kde 4.1, but I get errors when using apt, see here http://www.pastebin.ca/1091464
[05:31] <tsuna27> how do i download kiten
[05:31] <Maeva> !kiten
[05:31] <tsuna27> how can i get back my alt+f2 shortcut
[05:32] <shinigamy> hello
[05:33] <Maeva> tsuna27 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=152036
[05:33] <Maeva> System-Preferences-Keyboard Shortcuts
[05:33] <Maeva> "Show the panel run application dialog", set it to ALT-F2
[05:33] <Maeva> just type your question in google and you find answers tsuna27 :-)
[05:34] <tsuna27> system-Preferences-Keyboard Shortcuts
[05:34] <Kernel> !iso
[05:35] <compy> How do you get rid of moblock?
[05:35] <anom01y> I am trying to follow the instructions to upgrade to kde 4.1, but I get errors when using apt, see here http://www.pastebin.ca/1091464
[05:37] <compy> how do you edit startup programs?
[05:37] <tsuna27> woot
[05:39] <Maeva> compy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358271
[05:39] <Maeva> sudo gedit /home/your user/.gnome2/sessions ere you'll all the apps which auomatically starts. Remove them deleting the line and updating the number at the begin of the line
[05:41] <Maeva> System -> Preferences -> Sessions. That is where all the already configured startup programs are and where we will add our new one(s)
[05:43] <compy> isn't this kubuntu related help?
[05:43] <compy> gedit is a gnome program.
[05:43] <compy> and so is the file path.
[05:43] <Maeva> oh sorry
[05:49] <anom01y> after trying to upgrade to kde 4.1, my apt is broke, and apt-get -f install gives me errors
[05:49] <anom01y> http://www.pastebin.ca/1091464
[05:56] <aspade> hello
[05:56] <aspade> how do you list channels again? it's been a while.. hehe
[05:57] <aspade> quit
[06:19] <chipbuddy> i'm running 7.10 right now, and i have all my graphics drivers and eye candy working just fine. But when i had 8.04 I could never get my graphics card to really work. What gives? why is it so much harder with 8.04?
[06:22] <chipbuddy> !f-spot
[06:22] <chipbuddy> !fspot
[06:28] <chipbuddy> is anyone familiar with fspot?
[06:40] <Schijnn> Could someone help me with permissions?
[06:45] <evilGUI> hello I just installed kubuntu KDE4
[06:45] <evilGUI> I get a black screens asking for my username and password
[06:45] <evilGUI> I type it in and type startx
[06:45] <evilGUI> it says I don't have a screen
[06:45] <evilGUI> I tried running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:46] <evilGUI> but all I get is some keyboard config wizzard
[06:46] <evilGUI> my video card is a via unichrome VN700
[06:48] <evilGUI> I've searched google and haven't found a fix
[06:49] <evilGUI> I just looked at me xorg.conf file and all I have in there is somthing about a touchpad
[06:49] <evilGUI> my*
[06:56] <nuxil> !kde4
[07:01] <intreq> hi, can some one help me in some problems
[07:29] <cybertaur1> hello, i'm having a problem with kubuntu.  I'll log in, and everything will be going swimmingly, but then after a second or two the borders around the windows disappear, and i can't do much
[07:29] <cybertaur1> restarting doesn't help
[07:29] <cybertaur1> also, if i try to reload the window manager, everything goes insane
[07:30] <cybertaur1> some background information that might be helpful: i was on gnome ubuntu before, downloaded kde 4.1 which i'm now using, and compiz / emerald as well
[07:30] <cybertaur1> but yeah, i don't have any idea how to fix it (or where to begin), so any help would be greatly appreciated
[07:31] <bazhang> disable compiz and emerald
[07:31] <cybertaur1> how?
[07:31] <cybertaur1> is there a command-line way to do it?
[07:31] <bazhang> gnome or kde
[07:31] <cybertaur1> i'm on kde 4.1
[07:31] <cybertaur1> i tried kwin --replace, which just logs me out
[07:31] <bazhang> kde3 is kwin --replace (alt f2); not sure about kde4 though
[07:31] <cybertaur1> and then i log back in with the same problem
[07:32] <cybertaur1> also, alt-f2 does nothing
[07:32] <cybertaur1> never has
[07:32] <cybertaur1> that was an earlier problem of mine that hasn't been fixed
[07:32] <bazhang> #kubuntu-kde4 then
[07:32] <cybertaur1> ok, thanks
[07:34] <joshuajtl> hi, does the latest kubuntu kde4 remix iso have  kde 4.1 ?
[07:36] <joshuajtl> ... anyone?\
[07:37] <MilhousePunkRock> joshuajtl: Unlikely... But better ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[07:37] <joshuajtl> thx
[07:48] <MilhousePunkRock> How would I install a specific version of a package (precisely: the version from Gutsy) in Hardy? Adding Gutsy sources, installing, pinning, removing sources?
[07:55] <anom01y> is there any way to get full transparency in kde 3 ?
[07:58] <MilhousePunkRock> anom01y: Full transparency as in transparent windows? Not without third party software (compiz), as far as I know
[08:00] <flaccid> kde4 can do opacity on the windows without effects iirc but not kde3
[08:00] <flaccid> ah there is opacity in window settings preferences tab in kde3
[08:01] <anom01y> is compiz easy to install ?
[08:01] <flaccid> hmm i tried them out, nothing seemed to happen
[08:01] <flaccid> anom01y: yeah
[08:01] <flaccid> !compiz | anom01y
[08:02] <flaccid> there is a page or two on the wiki for instructions
[08:29] <arty_> hi all
[08:33] <joesssss> hello, i'm having a problem with k3b - i'm trying to burn a DVD, but it says it "did not find an optical writing device in your system." any ideas about what i can do to make it see the burner?
[08:34] <arty_> joesssss: reboot try
[08:35] <joesssss> arty_: thanks, trying that now
[08:38] <arty_> work?
[08:43] <joesssss> hmmm, nope
[08:43] <joesssss> k3b also took around 6 minutes to start
[08:44] <joesssss> is there a way to see if ubuntu knows the drive is there? if it's not just k3b?
[08:46] <arty_> yep
[08:46] <arty_> go to start -system - driver manager
[08:46] <joesssss> hardware drivers?
[08:47] <arty_> Kinfo
[08:47] <arty_> KinfoCenter
[08:48] <joesssss> ok, and should i be looking in CD-ROM information, or devices?
[08:48] <arty_> first is CD rom
[08:48] <joesssss> ok, it looks like it only sees one of the drives
[08:51] <joesssss> fstab has two lines for cdrom things, but only one of them seems to be mounted
[08:51] <joesssss> i just ran sudo mount -a
[08:51] <joesssss> but there's still only one thing in kinfo
[08:51] <joesssss> and k3b doesn't see it
[08:52] <Takmadeus> hi
[08:52] <arty_> so it dont know   the second drive
[08:52] <joesssss> right, i think
[08:52] <Takmadeus> can you give me a quick help?
[08:52] <arty_> Takmadeus: speak :)
[08:52] <Takmadeus> can you help me with xcomprc?
[08:52] <Takmadeus> xcompmgr i mean
[08:52] <Takmadeus> I need the .xcompmgrrc file
[08:52] <Takmadeus> I am in gnome
[08:53] <Takmadeus> but I don't have the file
[08:53] <Takmadeus> at least not in my home partition
[08:53] <Takmadeus> and as I don't know the syntax
[08:53] <Takmadeus> I cannot create one :(
[08:53] <Takmadeus> so
[08:53] <Takmadeus> I know kde generates one for kompmgr
[08:53] <Takmadeus> and then I am gurious if you could help me out ;)
[08:54] <Takmadeus> :)
[08:54] <Takmadeus> *curious
[08:55] <joesssss> arty_: any ideas?
[08:56] <nuxil> Takmadeus, ask in #ubunutu
[08:56] <Takmadeus> tried
[08:56] <Takmadeus> they wouldn't answer no matter how hard i tried
[08:56] <Takmadeus> plus
[08:56] <Takmadeus> kubuntu has its xcompmgrrc file by default, doesn't it ;)
[08:56] <nuxil> to nag to much
[08:56] <nuxil> wait'
[09:01] <joesssss> arty_: now when i press the eject button on the dvd-rw drive, nothing happens
[09:01] <joesssss> i guess i can try rebooting again
[09:02] <arty_> linux dont know the driver
[09:02] <arty_> nohing what I can do
[09:02] <arty_> or zou
[09:02] <arty_> you
[09:02] <joesssss> i thought i was able to use it before on ubuntu, but maybe not
[09:02] <arty_> try opensuse 11
[09:03] <joesssss> but shouldn't the eject button on the drive work anyway?
[09:04] <arty_> joesssss: no
[09:04] <nuxil> try eject command.. if you know the device name
[09:04] <arty_> if dont know driver dont work
[09:05] <nuxil> eject /blah
[09:05] <joesssss> would the device name be /dev/scd0
[09:05] <joesssss> or /dev/scd1 or something?
[09:05] <nuxil> might be.. on my sys.. its hdc
[09:07] <joesssss> ok, i just restarted, one sec
[09:08] <joesssss> it's hanging
[09:09] <joesssss> i restarted, waited for kubuntu to load, and then tried to eject it physically, and it worked. i then started k3b (which takes *forever* to start for whatever reason), and tried ejecting the drive from the terminal. and now the terminal isn't responding
[09:09] <joesssss> ok, konsole stopped hanging, but the drive didn't eject
[09:09] <joesssss> and now when i type eject /dev/scd1, it says "unable to find or open device for dev/scd1"
[09:11] <djgecko> hi
[09:12] <nuxil> joesssss, thers a little tiny hole someplace on the front of the cdrom.. use neadle to push in ther. and the it will open as as much that you can drag it out.
[09:12] <joesssss> i just restarted again, and now it's hanging on the bios
[09:12] <nuxil> joesssss, :P
[09:12] <djgecko> can i set the view of the canlist like the nicklist ?
[09:13] <joesssss> nuxil: the problem isn't that it's not ejecting, but that i can't burn a dvd with it since ubuntu can't see it. i think.
[09:13] <nuxil> aha.. joesssss i want following along from the top
[09:14] <joesssss> well, i've just restarted again, and at the moment, the drive is working a-ok
[09:14] <joesssss> i think k3b is screwing it up
[09:14] <nuxil> joesssss, thats odd. k3b is srewed up in kde4.. but should work fine in kde3
[09:14] <matty_> Fuck. I need to copy over my windows fonts or something
[09:15] <joesssss> oh, i'm in kde4
[09:15] <joesssss> that makes sense
[09:15] <joesssss> in that case
[09:15] <nuxil> LOL
[09:15] <joesssss> 4.1, though
[09:15] <nuxil> ;)
[09:15] <joesssss> still a problem with k3b?
[09:15] <nuxil> yup
[09:15] <joesssss> nuxil: any workarounds / alternatives / is there any way i can burn a dvd with a few episodes of mad men on it?
[09:16] <nuxil> concole
[09:17] <joesssss> concole?
[09:17] <nuxil> *in console
[09:18] <joesssss> oh, ok. would you mind pointing me towards some sort of tutorial for that?
[09:18] <nuxil> *console- im beginning to be tierd.. so many typos
[09:18] <nuxil> google :D
[09:18] <joesssss> or is it just a sudo apt-get install console thing?
[09:19] <nuxil> cdrecord manybe
[09:19] <nuxil> you have to ask someone else about that.. i never used it,, and im not about to learn now
[09:20] <joesssss> haha, ok
[09:20] <joesssss> thanks for your help
[09:21] <nuxil> np
[09:21] <joesssss> woohoo, looks like gnomebaker is working
[09:22] <joesssss> thanks again for pointing me towards the right direction
[10:02] <unclean> ' cannot execute binary file' when trying to install flash
[10:09] <nuxil> unclean, sudo chmod 755 bin-file
[10:10] <nuxil> unclean, sudo ./bin-file
[10:13] <renate> How to set the default startup  mangager kdm or gdm?
[10:14] <nuxil> !kdm
[10:14] <renate> i recently played around with kde4 but wanted to stay with kde3 but there is no way to define kdm as default
[10:15] <nuxil> renate, chmod +x /etc/init.d/kdm  ; chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm
[10:15] <stdin> renate: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[10:15] <nuxil> or that way
[10:15] <renate> this command don't give any feedback is that ok?
[10:16] <renate> dpkg-...
[10:16] <sbucat> hi channel
[10:16] <nuxil> hi you
[10:16] <nuxil> renate, kdm-4 is much nicer than kdm
[10:17]  * sbucat still prefer kde3
[10:17] <renate> well but not everything is ported to kde4 so i wait
[10:17] <renate> until every kde-application is available
[10:18]  * sbucat untill every kde application works fine
[10:18] <nuxil> renate, guess you have to wait along time.. not everyting is beeing ported afik. but new app will appare
[10:18] <sbucat> work
[10:19] <renate> nuxil: thats also the box of my girl-friend and i don't want to change much. personal i use sidux and there kde4 isn't installable
[10:19] <unclean> Im trying to install the flash pluging for firefox3 I go to terminal and get ....
[10:19] <unclean> Mozilla installation directory  = /home/unclean/.mozilla
[10:19] <unclean> only problem is I dont have that dir
[10:19] <nuxil> !flash
[10:19] <unclean> and Im unsure how to install it in the right dir
[10:19] <sbucat> unclean: i use opera and konqueror
[10:20] <unclean> yea i may try them...
[10:20] <unclean> how was it getting flash and java?
[10:20] <nuxil> opera is better than FF.. atleast opera doesnt eat up the memory,
[10:20] <nuxil> IMO
[10:20]  * sbucat agree with nuxil
[10:20] <unclean> if I d/l Opera will I be able to watch a damn youtube vid
[10:20] <renate> well ok thanks and i will try kdm
[10:21] <sbucat> unclean: i watch youtubeb
[10:21] <sbucat> with opera
[10:21] <nuxil> unclean, yes
[10:21] <unclean> okay brb
[10:21] <unclean> (^_^)
[10:21] <sbucat> unclean: first you have enable medibuntu repository and others repository
[10:21] <sbucat> then you should install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:21] <unclean> through synaptic?
[10:22] <sbucat> well if yoi have kde youi have adpet not synaptic
[10:22] <unclean> i have synaptic
[10:22] <nuxil> adept
[10:22] <nuxil> unclean, you also have adept
[10:22] <unclean> oh
[10:23] <nuxil> synaptic gtk > for gnome . adept qt > for kde
[10:23] <sbucat> )
[10:23] <sbucat> !medibuntu
[10:24] <sbucat> then kubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:24] <unclean> right now through synaptic im going to install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:25] <sbucat> unclean: then http://www.opera.com/download/linux/
[10:25] <unclean> thanks.
[10:26] <unclean> i did a search for medibuntu in synaptic...
[10:26] <unclean> nothing came up
[10:26]  * nuxil need more coffee
[10:27] <nuxil> damn, i when to bed at 20:00 last night. and woke up at 01:00, been up since then.
[10:28] <nuxil> beginning to become tierd
[10:28] <slow-motion> hi
[10:29] <nuxil> g day
[10:29] <timo> g'morning. =)
[10:29] <RurouniJones> Good evening, my what an international crowd we are
[10:30] <nuxil> :)
[10:30] <unclean> YAY! Im free from Firefox!!!
[10:30] <unclean> (^_^)
[10:30] <nuxil> glad to hear that
[10:30] <unclean> is there anything like 'noscript' for opera I really like Noscript
[10:32] <nuxil> no script? what if you need to go to a java site with java script ?
[10:32] <unclean> noscript was cool it would let you turn it on and off
[10:32] <unclean> but whatever no biggie
[10:32] <unclean> so that MEDIbuntu....
[10:33] <unclean> I CANT install it?
[10:33] <unclean> or I can?
[10:33] <unclean> 'repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons'
[10:34] <nuxil> heh,. its somthing you add to your source.list
[10:35] <unclean> oh I see...
[10:35] <unclean> I got it now...
[10:35] <unclean> :)
[10:36] <unclean> guys I'm sooo happy to be away from spyware and service packs and M$!!
[10:36] <nuxil> yeah.. dont forget visuses
[10:37] <unclean> i use to mess around with mandrake back in the day but I didnt see a need for linux if your not a programmer
[10:37] <unclean> I use to say" I can get everything for free in M$"
[10:37] <unclean> but just too many issues after another
[10:38] <nuxil> unclean, you mean you could steal in M$
[10:38] <nuxil> nothing is free in M$
[10:38] <unclean> hah true
[10:38] <nuxil> unclean, your no longer a criminal :p
[10:38] <unclean> (-_-)
[10:38] <nuxil> hehe
[10:39] <gimpysmurf> wow, talk about auusmptions...
[10:39] <flaccid> yeah this is the kubuntu support channel heh
[10:39] <gimpysmurf> i knopw linux hasn't freed me from being a criminal  ;)
[10:39] <gimpysmurf> (and i can't type, apparently... = /
[10:39] <nuxil> welcome to my club
[10:39] <nuxil> :)
[10:40] <unclean> once I run 'sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list' is Medibuntu added to my .source?
[10:40] <unclean> yes!
[10:40] <unclean> `/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list' saved
[10:40] <unclean> (^_^)
[10:41] <unclean> im kinda kicking myself in the ass for not sticking with linux back in 2002
[10:41] <nuxil> im kinda kicking my self in the ass for not sticking to linux in 94
[10:42] <nuxil> :p
[10:42] <unclean> hahaha
[10:42] <timo> It could be worse. I did the same mistake in '84..
[10:42] <nuxil> timo, ? pre linux
[10:43] <flaccid> HEHE
[10:43] <flaccid> oops
[10:44] <timo> aye, thats pre-linux. I choose M$ v. 1.2 over Unix, which then looked pretty much the same as Linux today.
[10:44] <flaccid> i chose freebsd back then and still do
[10:45] <flaccid> looks mean not much at all :)
[10:46] <nuxil> thouse days i was only playing on my Comandore
[10:46] <nuxil> later i had amiga with Workbench
[10:46] <nuxil> that was some awsome shit back then..
[10:48] <timo> Im still impressed with what some people did with Amiga's back then. I havent seen many that push their systems as far as the demo scene did back in the days.
[10:50] <nuxil> yeah, amiga was awsome. my friend still has his amiga 1200 with WB 1.3.. it should be on a museum
[10:51] <flaccid> i got amigas too :)
[10:51] <flaccid> but yeah !ot ..
[10:55] <timo> stoopid question of the day: do | mean a new command in Shell, and if so does it inherit priveliges from previous command?
[10:56]  * CostaRicanQuaker loves KDE 4.1 
[10:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> what's an ftp? how do i set one up myself? do I have to be a server to have one?
[10:57] <tuxpr0_> It is much cooler then Vista shit:D
[10:57] <bazhang> !ftp
[10:57] <unclean> so wait with Ubuntu im still on GNOME?
[10:57] <unclean> and Kubuntu is KDE?
[10:58] <unclean> KDE seems nicer than GNOME
[10:58] <unclean> Im sad now
[10:58] <bazhang> unclean, install kubuntu-desktop then
[10:58] <bazhang> tuxpr0_, no cursing please
[10:59] <unclean> what will that do to my current installation of Ubuntu?
[11:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> bazhang: that still doesn't answer my question
[11:00] <CostaRicanQuaker> where should i look? ubuntu forums?
[11:00] <unclean> FTP file transfer protocol
[11:00] <bazhang> file transfer protocol iirc
[11:00] <nuxil> timo, not sure what you mean.. make a scrip and run it as root. make command like su -l user -c command in the script. the priviges of the command should be the user. but i have not tested it,
[11:00] <unclean> instead of Http try ftp :)
[11:00] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: google and ubuntu wiki
[11:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> thankyou flaccid
[11:01] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: keep in mind ftp is insecure. use sftp which is ssh/scp instead.
[11:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> sftp? i can just google that and get all the info i want? i heard that i could restrict the access to my ftp so only friends can
[11:01] <CostaRicanQuaker> enter
[11:01] <unclean> bazhang: I can install a KDE desktop enviorment over my Ubuntu?
[11:02] <flaccid> sure. and ftp config depends on the ftp server you use
[11:02] <bazhang> unclean, yes
[11:02] <unclean> will I still have my GNOME apps?
[11:02] <CostaRicanQuaker> unclean: yes
[11:02] <flaccid> considering kubuntu is a desktop OS you want find much detailed help on servers here
[11:02] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: i don't have a server computer
[11:03] <timo> nuxil, thanks. trying to run a command from a tutorial (one gotta learn..), but it dont seem to work as it should.
[11:04] <nuxil> what command
[11:05] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: do i have to have a server to have an sftp?
[11:05] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: well every computer has the power to be a server so you do once you install a server :) ubuntu by default out of box is no servers
[11:05] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: you only need to install openssh-server for sftp
[11:05] <CostaRicanQuaker> sudo apt-get install openssh-server ?
[11:06] <flaccid> yeah
[11:06] <razzer> Hi.. Can anyone help.. I lost kde from login window and when i log in it goes strait in console.. graphical enviroment is just gone.. And yes, i'm kind of noob.. =/
[11:06] <flaccid> razzer: which session is selected from the dropdown in kdm?
[11:06] <CostaRicanQuaker> does anyone know why KDE4.1 is so beautiful?
[11:06]  * CostaRicanQuaker is in love
[11:06] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: graphic and UI designers/programmers
[11:07] <razzer> kde is not there..
[11:07] <flaccid> razzer: i guess you did something
[11:07] <razzer> its jus failsafe & previous..
[11:07] <timo> noxil, "dpkg --get-selections | awk '{if ($2 == "install") print $1}' > /etc/apt/apt-build.list" I get "/etc/apt/apt-build.list: Permission denied"
[11:07] <razzer> worked great last night..
[11:07] <CostaRicanQuaker> gnome got annoyingly slow with the desktop effects, and so did kde with compiz fusion
[11:08] <CostaRicanQuaker> then i installed kde4.1 and it works just fine with only 248mg ram
[11:08] <tuxpr0_> Hey guys, how can I make the Firefox to work by default?
[11:08] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: many factors you are not considering
[11:09] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do you mean?  all i'm saying is that i seem to be able to have the effects on
[11:09] <CostaRicanQuaker> when i couldn't before...i heard 4.1 is something different..opengl
[11:09] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: do you have a support question?
[11:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: I just finished downloading openssh-server
[11:10] <flaccid> please keep in mind that compiz is a different window manager with different effects to kwin and its effects.
[11:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> now how do i set up a sftp
[11:10] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: it already is.
[11:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok, but i mean
[11:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> if i want to share a folder
[11:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> a specific folder
[11:10] <CostaRicanQuaker> online
[11:11] <tuxpr0_> I'm ok, thanks
[11:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> with mac, windows, linux users
[11:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> what do i do?
[11:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> and if i want to give some of them access
[11:11] <CostaRicanQuaker> to put up files on there
[11:11] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: its user based. you use users and unix permissions for access. no such thing as a share in ftp.
[11:11] <flaccid> !enter | CostaRicanQuaker please do this!
[11:12] <CostaRicanQuaker> so what do i have to do to share files with a friend now?
[11:12] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: give them a user account usually
[11:12] <unclean> Default display manager GDM or KDM?
[11:12] <flaccid> unclean: kdm
[11:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok...first off, how do i run this program i just downloaded?
[11:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid
[11:13] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: if you installed it properly, it is already running
[11:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> i don't see it
[11:13] <flaccid> you don't see daemons
[11:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> is this like a background program that i don't
[11:13] <flaccid> they run in the background
[11:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> aha!
[11:14] <flaccid> thats what servers are. except for windows which doesn't abstract..
[11:15] <CostaRicanQuaker> so if i wanted you to have access to one of my files
[11:15] <CostaRicanQuaker> or have you send me a file
[11:15] <CostaRicanQuaker> through it
[11:15] <CostaRicanQuaker> what do i do?
[11:15] <CostaRicanQuaker> is my computer less secure now that i downloaded that program?
[11:15] <flaccid> so you generally give a user an account and then they can log in. the rest is done by unix/posix permissions on the files and folders on the system
[11:15] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: dude. respond on 1 line or i won't help.
[11:16] <CostaRicanQuaker> understood
[11:16] <flaccid> no your computer is not less secure. you do not share files. a user has access to the system. all this is explained on google.
[11:16] <flaccid> your computer is only less secure if you used bad passwords
[11:16] <CostaRicanQuaker> can you provide me with a link? i couldn't find the right one, only ubuntu forums references
[11:17] <CostaRicanQuaker> also, the person i give a user account to, do they necessarily have to be on unix/linux or can they be windows/mac users?
[11:17] <flaccid> i can't sorry. sftp uses your systems user accounts and relies on the permissions of the file on the system. so there is no link...
[11:18] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: they can be from any OS. they should use WinSCP on windows and something like Transmit on OS X
[11:19] <unclean> Okay so I just d/led and installed the kubuntu-desktop do I need to restart to see the changes?
[11:19] <CostaRicanQuaker> can i give permission for someone to upload but not to download?
[11:19] <unclean> or did it just add apps?
[11:19] <yereth> hi guys
[11:19] <nuxil> unclean, no need to reboot.. only restart X
[11:20] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: you can with unix permissions. but it may be easier to use a configurable ftp server from !ftp if you require that. each of those ftp servers have their own documentation. however if you configure the system right you can do what you want with sftp.
[11:20] <unclean> thnx all brb
[11:20] <yereth> I'm playing this online shooter on kubuntu, but there some process running on my computer that spikes every minute or so, and when it does, I get a lagspike of a few seconds
[11:21] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: creating a guest account is easiest here with openssh
[11:21] <yereth> I had this problem before; thought it was something with an update checker, but can't remember exactly
[11:21] <yereth> anyone any idea which process could cause the lagspikes?
[11:21] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok, how do i run...i mean, if it's a daemon...how do i set up things...do i have to go into the terminal?
[11:21] <flaccid> yereth: check top
[11:21] <flaccid> !perms | CostaRicanQuaker
[11:21] <yereth> flaccid: I am looking at it as we speak
[11:22] <flaccid> !users | CostaRicanQuaker
[11:22] <yereth> flaccid: but nothing seems to take a lot of cpu...
[11:22] <flaccid> !permissions | CostaRicanQuaker
[11:22] <flaccid> yereth: dang
[11:22] <yereth> flaccid: klauncher just jumped..
[11:22] <nuxil> yereth, cpu usage and lag migth not be related
[11:23] <yereth> flaccid: and klauncher is not working correctly I think.. (alt-f2 is not working)
[11:23] <nuxil> yereth, are you running any net services
[11:23] <flaccid> yereth: i have no idea sorry
[11:23] <yereth> nuxil: you have other thoughts? I know it should be a specific process..
[11:23] <nuxil> ftp http ? or adpet_notifyer
[11:24] <yereth> ah.. maybe it's adept.. that was the problem a year ago, when I had the same trouble
[11:24] <nuxil> yereth, how offen does the lag apparess ?
[11:24] <yereth> about every minute.. can't tell exactly
[11:24] <yereth> but often
[11:25] <nuxil> are you on wifi ?
[11:25] <yereth> na.. my connection is superb
[11:25] <yereth> it's really my configuration
[11:26] <yereth> nuxil: I'll kill adept and see if it helps
[11:26] <nuxil> yereth, check what deamons are runnind
[11:26] <yereth> will report here back later ;)
[11:26] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: so first I create a new user that would be my friend, who's on a mac system, and later on i can give him the password?
[11:26] <unclean> okay installed Kubuntu-desktop and only difference I see is the log in screen (^^)
[11:26] <yereth> nuxil: how do I cleanly check that anyway?
[11:27] <nuxil> ps aux is one way
[11:27] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: yeah you can do both of those in user management in system settings... you have the right idea.
[11:27] <yereth> nuxil: that's a long list ;)
[11:27] <nuxil> so grep it :p
[11:28] <yereth> on what? 'd' of daemon? :P
[11:29] <yereth> nuxil: I killed adept, will see if it works.. I've to check in the game, cause the desktop doesn't have problems with the lag
[11:29] <nuxil> yereth, ux to get a smaller list
[11:29] <nuxil> but that will only show the users prosesses.
[11:29] <yereth> right
[11:30] <CostaRicanQuaker> flaccid: i can't find users and groups on the system settings
[11:33] <unclean> bazhang: Installed Kubuntu see no visual differnce are there settings I can configure?
[11:33] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: its called user management
[11:33] <berto> mi mandate al canale italiano? grazie
[11:33] <flaccid> unless you have an old version
[11:33] <berto> kubunti.it
[11:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> i can't see it...i'm on kde 4.1
[11:33] <flaccid> CostaRicanQuaker: wrong channel for help.
[11:34] <yereth> nuxil: adept wasn't it :(
[11:34] <bazhang> unclean, you need to logout then login window choose kubuntu from session
[11:34] <unclean> let me try that brb
[11:36] <nuxil> yereth i almost knew that.. adept_notifyer only checks every hour or so. dont know the precise time..
[11:36] <yereth> nuxil: how about knotify?
[11:37] <nuxil> yereth, tell me.. does this lag only happen when you play that game ?
[11:37] <yereth> I'm guessing something is causing massive package loss at a certain point..
[11:37] <berto> jh
[11:37] <yereth> nuxil: erm.. it seems to, but I remember killing a certain process about a year ago solved it for then
[11:38] <yereth> nuxil: but back then I had a slow computer and could cleary catch the process in top
[11:38] <nuxil> yereth, try ping -c 30 google.com ; ping -c 30 yahoo.com ; ping -c 30 Game.com
[11:38] <nuxil> and compare
[11:38] <nuxil> it migth be the server you are playing on
[11:38] <yereth> nuxil: it's not that specific server.. the rest doesn't have that problem
[11:39] <nuxil> how can you know if you havent tested and compared ? try ping several servers. and compare pack losses
[11:39] <nuxil> if you get lotz of pack loss on game.com you know its that server
[11:40] <flaccid> or the route to the server
[11:40] <nuxil> yup
[11:40] <flaccid> google is common for packet loss because of the load i guess
[11:41] <nuxil> i usaly get 5-10 % loss on google
[11:41] <nuxil> but im also on wifi
[11:41] <yereth> right
[11:41] <yereth> I'm trying to get the ip of the server :/
[11:42] <nuxil> just ping the hostname
[11:42] <nuxil> you need to use ip
[11:42] <yereth> I wish I knew it :P
[11:42] <nuxil> *no need
[11:42] <yereth> I don't know the host name :P
[11:42] <nuxil> if the dns is working correctly ping hostname is fine
[11:42] <yereth> ah found it
[11:43] <yereth> nuxil: I don't know the hostname :P
[11:43] <nuxil> look in the browser
[11:43] <yereth> I found the ip in the game log
[11:44] <yereth> is the ping -c 30 suppose to take a really long time?
[11:44] <nuxil> yea it pings 30 times
[11:45] <yereth> 30 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 29008ms
[11:45] <nuxil> o.0
[11:45] <nuxil> the server might block ping.. but thats would be stupid
[11:46] <yereth> :(
[11:46] <nuxil> what about other sites ?
[11:46] <unclean> bazhang: looks great trying to find out where I can change my resoulution
[11:47] <yereth> nuxil: no packet loss
[11:48] <nuxil> traceroute the game server.
[11:49] <yereth> nuxil: seriously, it's not the server
[11:49] <yereth> sometimes you have to face it
[11:49] <yereth> kubuntu is not perfect
[11:49] <yereth> something is messing with my performance..
[11:49] <nuxil> yereth, if you get 100% loss on the server,, and 0 % on others, then the problem is obviouse
[11:49] <yereth> ow and btw, I'm running kde4
[11:50] <yereth> nuxil: ... they don't allow pings on that ip.. besides, I connect to a specific port, maybe they put me through to a different machine
[11:51] <nuxil> yereth, thats why i told you to tracetroute the server.
[11:53] <nuxil> yereth, what is the ip of the game server ?
[11:54] <yereth> 91.121.6.96 27960
[11:54] <flaccid> that looks like wolfet
[11:54] <gokturk> hii
[11:54] <gokturk> hello
[11:55] <unclean> I think I like GNOME better
[11:55] <c4nx> hi all
[11:55] <yereth> unclean: ... really?
[11:55] <unclean> lol this KDE istoo much
[11:56] <unclean> cant even maximize my windows
[11:56] <c4nx> im new ubuntu user
[11:56] <c4nx> ubuntu is a better
[11:57] <yereth> unclean: ... kde allows you to do so much more actually than gnome
[11:57] <SSJ_GZ> unclean: Huh? You can maximinse windows in KDE.
[11:57] <yereth> that's why gnome is actually short for: Crippled Gnome (TM)
[11:58] <unclean> okay I have opera open and konqueror  see nothing to maximize or minimize
[11:58] <unclean> onqueror doesnt even fit my whole screen
[11:58] <unclean> and I cant seem to figure out how to change resolutions
[11:59] <yereth> unclean: do you have a window frame around your apps at all?
[11:59] <unclean> no
[12:00] <yereth> unclean: alt-f2 -> kde-window-decorator --replace
[12:01] <yereth> nuxil: but you have any idea what process it might be on my computer which could be messing with my net packages?
[12:01] <unclean> there is it...
[12:01] <yereth> :)
[12:01] <yereth> it's a bug.. I have it sometimes as well
[12:01] <unclean> any idea on resoultions?
[12:02] <yereth> unclean: normally it should just be there.. sometimes it crashes
[12:02] <yereth> unclean: when it does, run kde-window-decorator --replace
[12:03] <yereth> btw, is there anyone here who has pulse working?
[12:04] <yereth> pulseaudio seems like the ultimate plug&pray system up untill now
[12:04] <unclean> yea I just tried to change an apprenacne and I got ths....KWD crashed and caused a signal 11
[12:07] <robert__> Hello
[12:11] <unclean> what does it mean whn you have opera open and it just goes black....
[12:12] <unclean> this keep happening
[12:12] <unclean> then it goes normal
[12:25] <unclean> can anyone tell me why my browers freeze , turn black then go back to normal?
[12:28] <ets> Just a question
[12:28] <ets> is KDE 4.1 worth it?
[12:28] <ets> to install on Kubuntu 8.04...
[12:28] <ets> ...
[12:29] <unclean> i just did
[12:29] <unclean> its real nice
[12:29] <unclean> but i think i like GNOME  better
[12:33] <soulchild> Hi all,... is there a QT frontend partition editor ? like gparted for KDE ?
[12:33] <flaccid> !info qtparted | soulchild
[12:35] <unclean> cananyone tell my why my windows freeze and turn black then go back to normal?
[12:36] <flaccid> unclean: ##windows
[12:37] <unclean> no not M$ windows
[12:37] <unclean> like my windows in kubuntu
[12:37] <unclean> they freeze and turn black
[12:37] <flaccid> oh sorry. i have no idea bout that bug then
[12:37] <unclean> like in Opera and Adept
[12:37] <unclean> oh...
[12:38] <unclean> this KDE X seem buggy
[12:39] <flaccid> bugs are everywhere yes
[12:48] <bry3n> #ubuntu-fr
[12:54] <fredthemonkey> !iso
[12:55] <Deepthought> how do I find out wich displaymanager I´ m running ?
[12:56] <unclean> Okay I thnk it stpped once I updated
[12:57] <unclean> my programs  kept freezng and I had to keep terminating them
[13:01] <unclean> now I lke KDE (^_^)
[13:13] <spike_> whats the difference between adobe, swfdec and gnash flash players?
[13:13] <spike_> I don't htink I want gnash, but whats swfdec? is it any good?
[13:14] <spike_> otherwise I'll just get the adobe one
[13:17] <flaccid> spike_: they are all different with different support for flash stuff. adobe is the only to support it properly but its non-free.
[13:18] <spike_> well gnash wasn't much good last I tried it
[13:18] <spike_> so I guess I'll go with the adobe one
[13:18] <spike_> which is apparently the same as flashplugin-nonfree
[13:18] <spike_> (thats wht firefox wanted to use synaptic for)
[13:19] <flaccid> well no its not flashplugin-nonfree is adobe
[13:19] <spike_> thats what I said wasn't it?
[13:20] <flaccid> sorry i misread then. native on closed source will always be better.
[13:38] <mahmoud__> hi every one
[13:39] <mahmoud__> any one here
[13:40] <imhateb> åñòü òóò êòî-íèòü ðóññêîÿçû÷íûé?
[13:40] <imhateb> Ìíå íóæíà ïîìîùü
[13:41] <unclean> anyprograms in KDE or GNOME    that help   with .zip files?
[13:41] <flaccid> unclean: ark
[13:42] <imhateb> Can somebody help me?
[13:42] <imhateb> I can't edit xorg.conf
[13:42] <flaccid> why?
[13:43] <imhateb> when i write $ sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:43] <imhateb> they tell: coonot open display
[13:43] <flaccid> imhateb: thats not opening it with anything. you might want to try something like kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:43] <flaccid> and yeah don't use sudo with gui apps if that was your intention as well
[13:45] <imhateb> )) my english very bad, but thank you for try to help...
[13:45] <imhateb> I'm must write kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:45] <imhateb> ?
[13:46] <flaccid> imhateb: kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf in konsole
[13:46] <imhateb> Thank you!!!!
[13:46] <mahmoud__> hi i had problem with my printer
[13:46] <imhateb> *go to try* )))
[13:47] <mahmoud__> hayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy an body here
[14:01] <tomaz> ok... I have just upgraded kde 4.0 to 4.1 using aptitude...
[14:01] <tomaz> why do I have icons on my desktop?
[14:02] <flaccid> tomaz: wrong chan, see topic
[14:03] <tomaz> sorry ;)
[14:03] <unclean> how can you check which KDE your using?
[14:04] <flaccid> unclean: kicker --version
[14:05] <unclean> 3.5
[14:05] <unclean> whats the differnces?
[14:05] <flaccid> see the changelogs
[14:07] <tomaz> unclean: well, lots of differences.
[14:08] <unclean> for the better?
[14:08] <tomaz> unclean: first of all, if you`re new to linux, you shouldn`t use 4.1 yet,
[14:08] <unclean> Oh...
[14:08] <tomaz> because there`s still some rougth edges.
[14:08] <unclean> 3.5 seems nice
[14:08] <unclean> for now
[14:08] <tomaz> see, the kde team is trying to rebuild everything from scratch and it`s trying new concepts and ideas.
[14:09] <tomaz> 4.1 is really nice, but there`s still a few apps that doesn`t behave well or are ported to 4.1
[14:09] <unclean> yea i just spent hours going from GNOME to KDE and setting everything up how I like
[14:09] <unclean> I dont wanna go through any BS
[14:09] <unclean> lol
[14:09] <tomaz> BS?
[14:09] <unclean> bull
[14:10] <unclean> I should just wait a few weeks
[14:10] <tomaz> amarok, k3b, konversation for instance are not yet fully ported to 4.1
[14:10] <tomaz> unclean: let`s say months. ;) , the kde 4.2 is tagged for january, and it will be the 'first' complete-human-usable kde4.* release.
[14:11] <tomaz> probably with koffice, k3b, amarok.
[14:11] <unclean> am I really missing out on much with KDE 3.5?
[14:11] <tomaz> eyecandy for sure, kde 4.* is really beautiful
[14:12] <unclean> Hm? Eyecandy is nice
[14:13] <tomaz> unclean: what about see some pictures of kde4 and make your choice?
[14:13]  * tomaz looking for screenshoots
[14:14] <tomaz> http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.1/
[14:15] <unclean> yea im acutually looking on youtube
[14:16] <unclean> yea real nice
[14:16] <unclean> (^_^)
[14:17] <albe> How can I find dead symlinks?
[14:19] <unclean> whats the cmd to update?
[14:29] <flaccid> !adept | unclean
[14:29] <flaccid> !apt | unclean
[14:29] <spike_> !java
[14:34] <spike_> how come java is 97 MB ?
[14:36] <flaccid> not sure, ask sun
[14:37] <gps23> hi
[14:37] <flaccid> !info sun-java6-jre
[14:37] <flaccid> hmm its not that big
[14:39] <gps23> i gave one of my friends ubuntu 8.04 dvd to install. he don't have any internet connection, now i want to somehow let him able to play audio and video by giving him my packages. somebody please tell me the packages i need to pick from my KUBUNTU system
[14:40] <gps23> i want to get the packages to play audio and video and their dependencies if any
[14:40] <flaccid> !codecs | gps23
[14:40] <spike_> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[14:40] <spike_>   java-common odbcinst1debian1 sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre unixodbc
[14:40] <spike_> After this operation, 97.9MB of additional disk space will be used.
[14:40] <flaccid> spike_: well thats more than just sun java
[14:41] <flaccid> feel free to look up each package on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[14:41] <gps23> flaccid, i know, but now i dont know where and what are the actual packages after installing metapackage ubuntu-restricted-formats
[14:41] <spike_> I only asked for sun-java6-jre afaik
[14:41] <spike_> (the rest must be dependancies)
[14:41] <tomaz> unclean: the instructions to update to kde4 are on www.kubuntu.org
[14:41] <tomaz> the first link
[14:42] <gps23> flaccid, is there some where i can know what are the packages installed on my system by 'aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-formats' and their dependencies
[14:42] <gps23> ...some way*....
[14:42] <bdizzle> hi
[14:42] <flaccid> spike_: yep
[14:42] <bdizzle> I need to find out what kinds of printers work best with Kubuntu, since I'm going shopping for one today
[14:42] <flaccid> gps23: look up the deps of the meta package on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[14:43] <spike_> ontop of all that do I need the java plugin for it to work in firefox?
[14:43] <gps23> flaccid, alright, thanks
[14:43] <flaccid> thats all you guys need to do
[14:43] <spike_> (and/or konqueror)
[14:43] <flaccid> spike_: sun-java-plugin recommended
[14:43] <spike_> ok thanx
[14:43] <flaccid> np
[14:45] <bdizzle> hello?
[14:45] <flaccid> !hi
[14:46] <flaccid> bdizzle: http://linuxprinting.org
[14:46] <flaccid> !hcl | bdizzle
[14:46] <flaccid> + google
[14:51] <gps23> how do i know various packages provided by some package X
[14:51] <gps23> some metapackage* X
[14:52] <spike_> !quicktime
[15:00] <harpreet__> root partition should be larger or boot?
[15:17] <phil_> i'm trying to create a script to help me rename files.  when i go to run it, i get an error "bash: script.sh: command not found"  I used the command $./script.sh   what am i doing wrong?
[15:21] <spike_> wow songbird is really comming along, looks like an itunes from mozilla!
[15:22] <kunim> hello, what is the recommended way to get a 2.6.26 kernel running under hardy?
[15:25] <kunim> is it possible to just rebuild the interpid kernel package?
[15:25] <kunim> (will this boot clean)
[15:26] <spike_> kumin I don't know, is the 2.6.26 kernel package in your adept?
[15:26] <kunim> no, just the 2.6.24 packages.
[15:27] <kunim> but i thought just to dpkg-buildpackage the interpid packages
[15:28] <spike_> kurin what if you enable betas? and stuff?
[15:28] <kunim> hmmm packages.ubuntu.com is down :(
[15:29] <kunim> which "betas"? i have hardy-packports enabled?!
[15:29] <spike_> oh ok... just in adept has a checkmark for betas/prerelease software
[15:29] <spike_> thought it might have been included there
[15:34] <kunim> so should i just follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/GitKernelBuild or would it be better to grab the interpid sources?
[15:35]  * spike_ shrugs
[15:35] <spike_> sorry I don't really know personally...
[15:36] <crimsun> kunim: what do you seek in intrepid's kernel?
[15:37] <kunim> crimsun: fix for zd1211 wlan hangups
[15:39] <crimsun> kunim: did you check if linux-backports-modules-$(uname -r) contains the fix?
[15:39] <crimsun> it's in hardy-proposed and requires the corresponding l-i and l-u-m
[15:40] <phil_> i'm trying to create a script to help me rename files.  when i go to run it, i get an error "bash: script.sh: command not found"  I used the command $./script.sh   when looking for an answer on forums, it would seem like i have a path problem, but i don't know how to fix it.  any ideas?
[15:41] <spike_> is the file you saved called script.sh
[15:41] <phil_> yes
[15:42] <spike_> do an ls script.sh
[15:42] <spike_> if it shows up then check if its executable permission is set
[15:42] <spike_> if not use chmod to set it
[15:42] <spike_> and try again
[15:42] <phil_> ok let me try thanks
[15:42] <kunim> crimsun: no i was not aware of those. let met check.
[15:43] <kunim> -> they are in http://de.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Packages  here not in hardy-proposed?!
[15:44] <spike_> does linux have a zfs driver?
[15:44] <spike_> apparnetly OSX might be heading that way
[15:44] <kunim> (i have hard-proposed/main in my sources.list)
[15:46] <ogi_> just cant make my wireless work
[15:51] <kunim> crimsun: the backports from hardy/main does not contain zd1211 modules :(
[15:51] <crimsun> kunim: then you can just install intrepid's kernel.
[15:52] <kunim> crimsun: directly from the repository?
[15:52] <crimsun> kunim: sure
[15:52] <kunim> nice
[15:52]  * kunim wished packages.ubuntu.com would work :(
[15:52] <crimsun> kunim: keep in mind in intrepid l-i subsumes l-u-m
[15:55] <kunim> oops konversation just segfaulted
[15:56] <kunim> crimsun: do you have the urls for the l-i-generic package at hand? (that's all i need when there is no more extra modules?!)
[15:56] <spike_> ouch!
[15:56] <kunim> package.ubuntu.com still fails for me :(
[15:56] <kunim> packages..
[15:57] <kunim> restricted modules are probably still there, right?
[15:59] <user__> hello
[16:01] <crimsun> kunim: go directly to the repository.
[16:02] <crimsun> kunim: archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/
[16:02] <phil_> is there a way to search subfolders using the find command?
[16:02] <spike_> is helix media player any good?
[16:03] <kunim> crimsun: thanks a lot
[16:03] <user__> how do I find other channels?
[16:05] <jugador61> hi all
[16:05] <phil_> so i think i've come to the realization that bash has not been installed.  does this make sense and if so, how do i go about installing it?
[16:05] <arty_> hellou
[16:05] <phil_> hey there
[16:08] <phil_> crumsun and kunim:  thanks for your help on the chmod and such...learning more and more everyday
[16:10] <spike_> why isn't there an emerald-themes package? (for compiz)
[16:10] <spike_> do I need another repo or something?
[16:18] <helvecio_> hi
[16:19] <helvecio_> este canal é brasileiro?
[16:26] <phil_> can someone please take a look at this for me.  i'm having a heck of a time with the simple scripthttp://pastebin.com/d4c6ef434
[16:26] <phil_> sorry the link should be http://pastebin.com/d4c6ef434
[16:26] <DarkShinigami> Hello all
[16:26] <phil_> hi
[16:27] <|Marcin|> hello
[16:27] <DarkShinigami> Why would a file transfer from my desktop to my USB drive make all file names lowercase?
[16:27] <DarkShinigami> ABC goes to abc
[16:27] <DarkShinigami> etc
[16:28] <DarkShinigami> I'm trying to put Billix on my 256MB drive and I can't because of the filename change
[16:30] <tomaz> helvecio_:  não, canal é internacional, fale apenasem inglês aqui. ( No, this is an internacional channel,please talk only in english)
[16:34] <DarkShinigami> !process
[16:35] <DarkShinigami> Is there a site/page/wiki on which services/processes can be stopped from startup that will not cause issues?
[16:35] <sbucat> well i have a problem with konqueror
[16:35] <sbucat> with opera i can check my on line webmail
[16:36] <sbucat> instead with konqueror i get error
[16:36] <sbucat> the button refresh doesn't work
[16:36] <sbucat> Error: node : TypeError: Undefined value
[17:03] <Chriz21> how do i get lbz2?
[17:03] <yousef> can someone tell me how to fix this?
[17:03] <yousef> APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
[17:04] <yousef> constantly getting this error in logs
[17:04] <phil_> can anyone tell me how to rename a file to something with an apostrophe ie   change Im to I'm?
[17:09] <Sir_Captain> can anyone tell me how to rename a file to something with an apostrophe ie   change Im to I'm?
[17:10] <Chriz21>  /join #ubuntu
[17:14] <arty_> anyone us KOPETE?
[17:16] <arty_> how to disable if is new user online the little windows and second question what is nave plugin if somone send url and they show in litle window in the chat
[17:22] <ZmAY> i need some help with apache2, it wont start
[17:29] <tomaz> ZmAY: why?
[17:30] <gokturk_> slm
[17:30] <gokturk_> birader
[17:30] <gokturk_> burda
[17:30] <gokturk_> türk
[17:30] <gokturk_> varmı
[17:30] <gokturk_> bea
[17:30] <gokturk_> varsa
[17:30] <gokturk_> sesini cıkarısın
[17:30] <gokturk_> Turkey
[17:31] <jussi01> !tr
[17:32] <ZmAY> tomaz: dont know, /etc/init.d/apache2 start command makes nothing
[17:33] <yousef> does someone know how to fix
[17:33] <yousef> APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)
[17:33] <jussi01> ZmAY: are you sure its not starting?
[17:33] <jussi01> ZmAY: that command - what does it out put?
[17:34] <ZmAY> tomaz: yes i am sure
[17:34] <ZmAY> nothing
[17:34] <ZmAY> jussi01: there is no output after that command
[17:35] <ZmAY> if i just run apache2 it gives me http://pastebin.com/d66c5aeb7
[17:36] <jussi01> ZmAY: how did you install it?
[17:36] <ZmAY> with adept
[17:36] <jussi01> ZmAY: hrm, what are you planning to do with it?
[17:37] <ZmAY> does it matter, cant do nothing if it's not working
[17:38] <jussi01> ZmAY: Im asking because usually people need php mysql and others also, so you should follow this:
[17:38] <jussi01> !lamp
[17:38] <ZmAY> yes yes..
[17:39] <ZmAY> first i need only apache working..
[17:39] <jussi01> ZmAY: that tutorial helps get it set up so it will work correctly
[17:40] <jussi01> ZmAY: the tasksel in that has a walkthrough of some of the setup settings
[17:40] <jussi01> ZmAY: also, id suggest asking in #ubuntu-server
[17:41] <ZmAY> tnx, bye
[17:46] <arpharazon> hello, I was installing tork and I got this problem with compiling tor
[17:46] <arpharazon> http://pastebin.com/m660f9c7f
[17:47] <arpharazon> can anyone tell me what's going on?
[17:49] <rabiddachshund> I screwed up. My computer froze in the middle of mounting my windows partition so I had to reboot and now it's giving me "Unprivileged user can not mount NTFS block devices using the external FUSE library. Either mount the volume as root, or rebuild NTFS-3G with integrated FUSE support and make it setuid root." What does that mean?
[17:52] <owner> hi to all!
[17:52] <owner> from Greece!
[17:52] <owner> i'm a new user!
[17:52] <owner> and i have ubuntu
[17:53] <marie> something keeps over-writing my /etc/resolv.conf settings? anyone know how to stop this awful problem?
[17:54] <owner> i have a problem , i don't have sound....
[17:54] <owner> can someone help me?
[18:04] <munk_> HELP!:( my laptop keeps getting locked if i leave it on for 5 minuts and i dont use it....and i cant do anything about it unless i hard shutdown it.....no combination or individual button works.....please help me
[18:13] <adz21c> hi, is there anyway to make my /dev/video* consistant? I have a webcam and a tv tuner and they seem to every so often switch. Usually the tuner is /dev/video0 but sometimes the webcam will take that, which makes launching tvtime irritating as by default it select video0
[18:15] <ubuntu> how come kubuntu doesnt come with default support for playing mp3s
[18:15] <adz21c> ubuntu: probably due to patents
[18:17] <adz21c> ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats explains :-)
[18:18] <fredthemonkey> hello. i just installed superkaramba and chose a few themes. aRoK crashed and i can't uninstall it. all the themes have disappeared from the list :( how can i fix this?
[18:19] <spike_> how do I get kicker to show up, it says its running (I think its behind my desktop tho)
[18:20] <chipbuddy>  does anyone know an open source budget planning program? i don't really need to manage multiple accounts (like gnucash). i have X dollars and I want to allocate portions to various items... should i just use a spreadsheet?
[18:20] <marie> well, I removed DHCP and use static settings to fix, dhcp client on kubuntu was the problem
[18:20] <marie> I'd like to fix it, rather than not use dhcp
[18:23] <fredthemonkey> in other words: where does amarok save its currently installed theme infos?
[18:23] <fredthemonkey> *superkaramba, not amarok >_<
[18:36] <berto> ciao vorrerei andare sul cnale italiano,come si fa? grazie
[18:36] <berto> 000000000000
[18:42] <Kovert> how can i set my mounted windows disk r+w (kde4)
[18:43] <cadoo> !it
[18:43] <kcron> hi!
[18:43] <kcron> does anybody know if there is a good javadoc-browser for kubuntu?
[18:46] <ign0ramus> hi all
[18:46] <K-CRON> hi
[18:46] <ign0ramus> how do i clear the history of commands issued in a terminal emulator (yakuake in this case)?
[18:46] <K-CRON> does anybody know a good javadoc-browser?
[18:47] <jpds> ign0ramus: rm -f ~/.bash_history
[18:47] <ign0ramus> jpds: thanks man
[18:47] <jpds> Welcome.
[18:47] <K-CRON> anybody know a nice javadoc-browser?
[18:49] <K-CRON> hey pls i need help!
[18:50] <ign0ramus> k-cron: did you check http://plugins.intellij.net/plugin/?id=612
[18:50] <jpds> K-CRON: apt-cache search javadoc ?
[18:50] <Kovert> how can i set my mounted windows disk r+w (kde4)
[18:52] <ign0ramus> kovert: what's your disk named? (sda1)?
[18:52] <Kovert> sdab
[18:53] <Kovert> "dev/stab1"
[18:53] <thiago__> exit
[18:53] <raoni_> oi
[18:53] <Kovert> "/dev/sda1       /windows        ntfs-3g  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0   0" is my fstab line
[18:53] <Kovert> ign0ramus: saw that?
[18:54] <ign0ramus> kovert: yeah... i'm just wondering if a chmod would work - someone here probably knows
[18:54] <Kovert> ign0ramus: think i need a fstab line change
[18:55] <marie> nope using static IP information did not stop something from over-writing my /etc/resolv.conf
[18:55] <marie> this is stupid
[18:55] <K-CRON> windows partition is ntfs... only ntfs-3g driver can write to ntfs
[18:55] <Kovert> K-CRON: /dev/sda1       /windows        ntfs-3g  nls=utf8,umask=0222 0   0" is my fstab line
[18:56] <marie> I know format install mandrake or redhat will fix the resolv.conf, but how to I make it work in kubuntu
[18:56] <marie> if I cannot use the network, then kubuntu is not useful
[18:58] <fredthemonkey> my superkaramba still doesn't display 2 themes in the list and i can't uninstall them :( how do i do that?
[18:58] <ign0ramus> kovert: this may be helpful to you: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/775576.html
[19:02] <vlt> Hello. How can I disable the proprietary nvidia driver and use the one from Xorg?
[19:02] <ign0ramus> fredthemonkey: most of your config files should be in /home/usernamehere/.superkaramba - you can probably remove the themes in there.
[19:03] <K-CRON> kovert: is it mounted with ntfs-3g?
[19:04] <ign0ramus> k-cron: it would appear so based on his fstab entry
[19:05] <ign0ramus> and in the last few kubuntu version, i believe ntfs-3g is included by default.
[19:05] <Kovert> yes
[19:05] <Kovert>  i used "ntfs-config"
[19:05] <fredthemonkey> ign0ramus: thanks, but this didnt help it :S when i try to install the old ones again i can't because theres a green check-thing infront of it :-\
[19:05] <Kovert> thats gave me what I needed
[19:05] <K-CRON> ya sry i didnt notice the fstab-line
[19:06] <Kovert> all the to bunt a .dmg file
[19:06] <marie> how do I stop example.org from appearing in /etc/resolv.conf
[19:06] <Kovert> burn
[19:06] <vlt> I have an nvidia vga chip and need OpenGL. What driver can I use?
[19:07] <Kovert> vlt: you using kde?
[19:07] <vlt> Kovert: Yes.
[19:07] <Kovert> vlt: install restricted drivers
[19:08] <Kovert> vlt: then open restricted driver manager
[19:08] <ign0ramus> fredthemonkey: you may get a better answer in #superkaramba
[19:08] <vlt> Kovert: Is it "linux-restricted-modules-generic"?
[19:08] <vlt> Kovert: This is installed.
[19:09] <Kovert> vlt: do you see a restricted driver manager?
[19:09] <fredthemonkey> ign0ramus: thanks, i didn't know that this channel exists :D
[19:09] <vlt> Kovert: Yes, but ius there no open source driver for nvidia cards?
[19:09] <ign0ramus> fredthemonkey: i didn't either - found it via google ;)
[19:09] <Kovert> vlt: ys but this is the easy way to download and install
[19:10] <vlt> Kovert: Ok, I activated the driver and will restart X ...
[19:10] <Kovert> :-)
[19:11] <marie> example.org came back yet again in my resolv.conf
[19:11] <fredthemonkey> ign0ramus: i got it solved now with this page: http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/SuperKaramba/FAQ#Themes_can.27t_be_reinstalled_with_SuperKaramba <- it says: Delete the file ~/.kde/share/config/superkarambarc :D
[19:12] <vlt> Hmmm, I get "Illegal instruction" from a program when using the prop. nvidia driver. Any idea how to solve this?
[19:12] <ign0ramus> fredthemonkey: good on you!
[19:13] <ZmAY> can someone help me with php.. when i acces to .php page browser prompt me whether to save the file or to open it with program, instead of just showing the page.. any suggesstions
[19:14] <Piernodoyuna> hola
[19:14] <ign0ramus> vlt: when you try to use compiz?
[19:14] <vlt> ign0ramus: No the program I try to run is "zattoo".
[19:16] <ign0ramus> vlt: have you tried toggling graphics acceleration?
[19:17] <vlt> ign0ramus: Where?
[19:18] <ign0ramus> vlt: i believe its in restricted hw manager - not sure, i don't have any restricted drivers
[19:21] <jussi01> ZmAY: just choose your browser to open it?
[19:30] <ZmAY> jussi01: not working
[19:33] <jussi01> ZmAY: Id suggest this is another one for #ubuntu-server - be patient in there as its not that active - especially on weekends, but The regulars are very knowledable when they drop by
[19:34] <ZmAY> i found is in troublleshooting, followed instructions but still same
[19:35] <[ifrog]> scantv says, scantv scans a v4l device for available TV stations and writes a xawtv/fbtv config file. So where is the config file located?
[19:35] <jussi01> [ifrog]: Id suppose it would be in ~/ (your home dir) under a hidden file or folder
[19:36] <jussi01> [ifrog]: is there a special reason you are using that and not kaffeine?
[19:39] <[ifrog]> jussi01, I just need some working frequency.
[19:39] <jussi01> [ifrog]: kaffeine has a built in scanner
[19:40] <spike_> how do you remove kickers info panels about what you mouseover?
[19:41] <[ifrog]> jussi01, really ! iv looked threw its menu. How do i access it?
[19:41] <[ifrog]> v0.8.5 here..
[19:41] <jussi01> [ifrog]: wait a sec - is it a digital or analog card?
[19:41] <[ifrog]> OR maybe some one could tell me where scantv saves the config file?
[19:41] <[ifrog]> jussi01, Analog.
[19:42] <jussi01> [ifrog]: ahh, my bad. kaffeine only does digital
[19:42] <[ifrog]> :( ok.
[19:44] <jussi01> [ifrog]: Id give tvtime a go though - thats what I have for my analog card
[19:45] <jussi01> also
[19:45] <jussi01> !tv
[19:54] <gokturk> turkey
[19:55] <Guest76953> ubuntu
[19:58]  * chalcedony smiles
[19:58] <chalcedony> is there a way to go back to a previous version if the one you are in has problems?
[19:59] <ReckaH> i think you have to format then//////
[19:59] <chalcedony> ah
[19:59] <ReckaH> but i am not sure.......
[19:59] <Guest76953> turkey
[19:59] <Guest76953> turkey
[20:00] <Guest76953> turkey ubuntu server
[20:01] <Guest76953> slm
[20:01] <Guest76953> milelt
[20:01] <fitoria> hi
[20:02] <fitoria> I just installed kde 4.1
[20:02] <fitoria> and when i try to run a GTK app like firefox this shows up
[20:02] <fitoria> Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries
[20:06] <fitoria> ??????
[20:16] <dejan> hy everybody
[20:16] <dejan> I have some problems with wuanta building from svn
[20:16] <dejan> can anybody help me please?
[20:17] <arax> hi i've got problems installing qemu
[20:17] <dejan> quanta
[20:18] <dejan> the error i get is: Unknown CMake command "kde4_add_library"
[20:18] <dejan> what is yours arax?
[20:19] <arax> i should unpack files in root
[20:20] <arax> or rather paste them
[20:20] <dejan> it's not necessity
[20:21] <arax> what should i do then following http://calamari.reverse-dns.net:980/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/QuickStartGuide step 1?
[20:21] <dejan> if you compiling from source then you ned run as root only the make install command
[20:22] <arax> binaries
[20:22] <dejan> do u have .deb package?
[20:22] <arax> no
[20:22] <arax> just files
[20:24] <dejan> then you probbably should try something like "./configure" or "cmake <pathToSrc>"
[20:25] <dejan> of course you have to be inside your source directory to do this
[20:25] <arax> i'll have a look at that stuff
[20:26] <arax> can i start a programme with admin rights via the gui?
[20:26] <adz21c> arax: kdesu <app> in run dialog
[20:27] <arax> where can i find the run dialog?
[20:28] <dejan> alt-F2 key shortcut
[20:29] <dejan> can anybody help me with this error please: Unknown CMake command "kde4_add_library".
[20:29] <dejan> I get this when I run: cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/me/quanta ../
[20:30] <dejan> I was searching through internet but found noting useful
[20:31] <spike_> I wish it were legal for someone to translate the windows .dll's for safar it .so's for linux :)
[20:36] <ryo> hi
[20:37] <LetsGo67> In (gtk-)recordmydesktop, I am unable to record any sound. Can someone help me fix this issue, please?
[20:48] <JoshOvki> I have a problem with my webcam. I was bought it was a birthday present from a good friend. When i plug it in and use a program such as Cheese, aMsn, Skype it works for a random amount of time, always under 5 minuets. The picture seperate into horizonal segments and then gets updated at different times, the bottom one doesnt get updated. So its impossible to make out a picture. I have been googleing for a few days and still no success. The webcam
[20:48] <JoshOvki> is Logitech QuickCam E 3500 Plus, and im running Kubuntu 8.04.
[20:52] <amigo> Package A have depends: B,C,D. I wanna install A without C? Please help.
[21:08] <ubuntu> hello :)
[21:10] <ubuntu> can anyone assist or direct me to the crashed and burned pc department
[21:11] <ubuntu> I am going to get some snacks in the mean time brb
[21:15] <jussi01> ubuntu: your are at it. please ask your question
[21:16] <ubuntu> k
[21:17] <ubuntu> how shall I put it
[21:17] <ubuntu> can I download a usbversion of ubuntu or something it is the only option i got left
[21:17] <w8tah> hi guys -- i run hardy and fluxbox -- i want to add full kde4 support - - but not use kde as the desktop  -- how do i do this?
[21:18] <ubuntu> I got error 15
[21:18] <ubuntu> now I have diskerror
[21:18] <ubuntu> but I have disable my hds in my bios
[21:18] <ubuntu> i don't got a HD floppy
[21:19] <ubuntu> but when I live boot with cd i get error
[21:20] <ubuntu> I got two hds but no operating system functional
[21:21] <mahmoud__> hi every one
[21:21] <ubuntu> so which distro has a usb edition?
[21:25] <w8tah> hi guys -- i run hardy and fluxbox -- i want to add full kde4 support - - but not use kde as the desktop  -- how do i do this?
 you just have to install somethink like kubuntu-kde4-desktop package and all o of its dependence of course
[21:42] <BAMAToNE> i've checked "enable networked sound" so that i can listen to music from a networked windows drive in my apt, but when amarok plays the mp3, there is no sound.
[21:42] <spike_> how can I set the meta key to open the kmenu?
[21:42] <spike_> or is there already a keycombo to do it?
[21:42] <BAMAToNE> when i tried to apply the networked sound setting, the system tries to restart sound manager, but just keeps doing it over and over.
[21:46] <slow-motion> n8
[21:47] <XenThraL> anyone know if theres a shortcut in kate that opens the .h or .cpp file with the same name as the file you're viewing?
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[21:51] <spike_> why is there no emerald-themes package in hardy?
[21:52] <narothepharoh> I cant get my nvidia driver working after update> It says this.Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[21:53] <narothepharoh> ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'.
[22:01] <HUNTER_byt1> How to mount a NTFS partition?
[22:02] <teddy_> you need to install special packages
[22:02] <teddy_> after that use man smbmount
[22:03] <engineer> ?
[22:03] <engineer> HUNTER_byt1 sudo mount -t ntfs-3g drive directory
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[22:03] <teddy_> hi, all
[22:04] <teddy_> How I can run next opening file in the same application window?
[22:12] <narothepharoh> I cant get my nvidia driver working after update> It says this.Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[22:12] <narothepharoh> ERROR: Unable to write to directory '/etc/X11'.
[22:14] <gimpysmurf> did you run the update as sudo?  or howevr, whatever the process is that is trying to write to the dir.. does it have root permissions?   that's my guess
[22:16] <rambo3> is there any better menu system , that is simple  like in gnome.
[22:16] <rambo3> start menu
[22:20] <gimpysmurf> kde
[22:21] <miraclemaxim_> rambo you click the K
[22:24] <xenol> hi
[22:24] <xenol> i want to ask from which i could benefit more, i want to mount my /tmp, but i am not sure if i should use partition on my raid 0 or tmpfs (on ram)
[22:32] <sourcemaker> do you know http://quercus.caucho.com? it is really faster than native php?
[22:32] <rambo3> miraclemaxim_: what?
[22:33] <Grot> hej
[22:40] <spike_> I don't understand :(
[22:40] <spike_> ahh I know why theres no themesin emerald its not a package missing its a different method, using svn
[22:41] <spike_> svn ls https://svn.generation.no/emerald-themes
[22:41] <spike_> so once you've done that, where does it put the .emerald files?
[22:54] <snikker> when i build a deb package under hardy,i've got this error: "dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: debian/application/usr/bin/application shouldn't be linked with libexpat.so.1 (it uses none of its symbols)." it worked fine in gutsy/feisty
[22:58] <ubuntu> heij
[22:59] <ubuntu> Onkoo tääl suomalaisia
[22:59] <ubuntu> ?
[22:59] <jpds> !fi | Profiili
[23:00] <Profiili> oho
[23:00] <Profiili> silmät seisoo
[23:21] <nuxil> are there any other apps that does TTS besides festival ?
[23:22] <spike_> hardy needs a kgtk package! :)
[23:23] <nuxil> heh
[23:24] <histo> It needs a lot of fixes also
[23:34] <deco_> hy folks
[23:34] <deco_> i just want ot ask what is the diference betwen "make clean" and "make distclean"
[23:35] <szakulec> make clean just removes the compiled files; make distclean removes any config files in addition (.configure and the like)
[23:36] <deco_> oh, thanks
[23:37] <deco_> is there more useful commands that it wuld be great to know?
[23:38] <deco_> for example how can you uninstall an installed aplication
[23:38] <AlmightyCthulhu> is there a Kubuntu 8.10 disc with KDE 4.1?
[23:38] <deco_> if you install that app from source
[23:38] <szakulec> if you've compiled from source, go into the source directory and type make uninstall
[23:40] <deco_> ql, buth if I remove source from my PC then it is not possible to uninstall that app, right?
[23:40] <szakulec> yes and no
[23:40] <nuxil> szakulec, i always been woundering about. if you remove the source code. you need to dl it again to uninstall it.. but what files can be saved from the source code. to do make unintsall.
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[23:41] <nuxil> the Makefile ?
[23:42] <AlmightyCthulhu> deco: I'm getting the x86-64 version, I just didn't know what KDE it came with
[23:43] <nuxil> szakulec, dont know if you understood my question
[23:43] <AlmightyCthulhu> I tried grabbing kubuntu-desktop and that didn't go over so well
[23:43] <AlmightyCthulhu> I blasted KDE 4.0 pretty bad, I feel I should probably at least look at 4.1
[23:44] <deco_> this link should work for 32 bit PC
[23:44] <szakulec> having not done make uninstall, I'm not sure which file exactly, but keeping the makefile around would be a good idea
[23:45] <engineer> AlmightyCthulhu 4.1 is a lot better
[23:45] <szakulec> if you have no other choice, look in the makefile under the uninstall heading
[23:45] <benjamin> AlmightyCthulhu: i installed 4.1 earlier today, it's running much more smoothly for me than 4.0 did
[23:45] <AlmightyCthulhu> engineer: I've heard that the compositing in KDE 4 is much faster than Compiz
[23:45] <szakulec> you'll also need the .mak files
[23:45] <AlmightyCthulhu> Compiz is the best way I've found to kill your video card
[23:46] <engineer> i like compiz
[23:46] <engineer> and my card is quite powerful
[23:46] <engineer> so
[23:46] <w8tah> im trying to build kvirc4 which wants phonon support - -how do i get it goin with kde4 ?
[23:46] <nuxil> szakulec, yea. never actualy tried it.. just been woundering about it.. to save space
[23:46] <engineer> i cant tell
[23:46] <szakulec> just do a make clean if you're concerned about space
[23:46] <benjamin> i'm looking forward to when kde natively does the set of cube effects that compiz does
[23:46] <AlmightyCthulhu> I know GLXGEARS isn't really a benchmark
[23:46] <AlmightyCthulhu> but Compiz cuts me down 15-20%
[23:47] <szakulec> if you want a benchmark, go to http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/
[23:47] <AlmightyCthulhu> yep, used that before, it usually shuts up the "64-bit isn't better" bunch
[23:48] <engineer> The most recent release of the Phoronix Test Suite is version 1.0.5 and was released on August 3, 2008
[23:48] <engineer> released today
[23:48] <szakulec> they've recently added some new OpenGL benchmarks that should push any card you own to the limit
[23:48] <AlmightyCthulhu> I have a geforce 7650 on this machine, and a 7300 LE on my Athlon 64
[23:48] <AlmightyCthulhu> course that box is using FreeBSD
[23:49] <AlmightyCthulhu> well, what do you know, GNOME's disc writer is working, all and all Intrepid is being buggy, even by Alpha standards
[23:50] <AlmightyCthulhu> and most of them have been in GVFS or GDM itself :(
[23:50] <AlmightyCthulhu> if I file one more bug, I'll go nuts