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| === ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Current meeting: Mozilla Team | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 05 Aug 22:00 UTC: Community Council | 06 Aug 20:00 UTC: Maryland LoCo IRC | 07 Aug 12:00 UTC: Ubuntu Mobile Team | 07 Aug 14:00 UTC: Ubuntu Java Team | 08 Aug 00:00 UTC: Americas Board | ||
| fta | asac, you're late for the meeting | 19:05 |
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| Jazzva | Ok... We're missing few people from the meeting so we can try to do what we can now :). | 19:13 |
| fta | so.. we only have a small agenda with 3 items from gnomefreak but he's not there. neither is asac. | 19:13 |
| Jazzva | heh, fta :) | 19:13 |
| fta | do we postpone or proceed anyway ? | 19:14 |
| Jazzva | fta, I think we can finish the first item, get few possible days for bug work for the second item, and postpone for the third item | 19:15 |
| fta | sounds fine. | 19:15 |
| fta | ok, i'll lead, until asac shows up | 19:15 |
| fta | 1st item: status updates from the tasks set at last meeting | 19:16 |
| fta | gnomefreak is not there but he wanted to make sure no action point is blocked | 19:16 |
| Jazzva | tasks set at the last meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Meetings/Minutes/2008-06-22 | 19:17 |
| fta | hm, ok | 19:17 |
| fta | shirish is not there either | 19:17 |
| Jazzva | I think shirish's task is done... | 19:18 |
| fta | yep, let's skip the actions tagged as "done" | 19:18 |
| Jazzva | yep :) | 19:18 |
| fta | "Reorganize extension wiki pages", that's yours Jazzva | 19:18 |
| fta | status ? | 19:18 |
| Jazzva | My task for Extensions wiki is done... just need to update status | 19:18 |
| fta | excellent | 19:19 |
| fta | "Add thunderbird examples to XPI.TEMPLATE and document that on MozillaTeam/Extensions/Packaging page." | 19:19 |
| Jazzva | I haven't heard if asac added it... Anyway, that shouldn't be hard, so I can do it, if he can't... | 19:20 |
| fta | looking at the mozilla-devscripts branch, it's not there | 19:20 |
| Jazzva | we can check that later with asac. | 19:20 |
| fta | Jazzva, feel free to reassign to yourself | 19:20 |
| Jazzva | (I'll start filling in "Decisions" column on wiki, as a reminder :)) | 19:20 |
| fta | ok | 19:21 |
| fta | next is "Write a blog post/announcement with these stats and a call to join m-e-d team. Include "medal of honor" for the m-e-d member that updated most packages." | 19:21 |
| fta | i guess no progress | 19:21 |
| Jazzva | that goes together with "Target initial m-e-d report for end of July (or if we are good June)"... I suppose we can handle that later | 19:21 |
| Jazzva | no progress yet. We have the post template only, still need to work out a way to get all the data | 19:22 |
| fta | any volunteer to take over gnomefreak for this one ? | 19:22 |
| Jazzva | (would be good if volunteer has an idea how to fetch the data ;)) | 19:23 |
| fta | I guess we need someone on planet | 19:23 |
| Jazzva | fta, I would like if we could talk later on fetching that (you're the script-master :P) | 19:23 |
| Jazzva | and see if we can work something out... | 19:24 |
| fta | indeed, stats is one part (i can script something), publishing is the other part (but i'm not on planet) | 19:24 |
| Jazzva | then gnomefreak can post it, and it will get on planet. | 19:24 |
| fta | ok | 19:24 |
| Jazzva | cool... then we have that set. :) | 19:24 |
| fta | next is "Provide basic blog post layout", for you | 19:25 |
| Jazzva | and that means we're also done with this "Target initial m-e-d report for end of July (or if we are good June)". | 19:25 |
| fta | oops, no, rescheddule to august | 19:25 |
| fta | (we're definitely bad) | 19:26 |
| Jazzva | ok | 19:26 |
| fta | hm, "Provide basic blog post layout" is done => skip | 19:26 |
| Jazzva | well, we have the last one not started... | 19:26 |
| fta | "Document redirection procedure to mozillateam-community on mozillateam membership page" was for asac | 19:27 |
| fta | let's keep this open unless someone wants to do it | 19:27 |
| Jazzva | I suppose this is the MT membership page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/GettingInvolved , section "Joining the team" | 19:27 |
| Jazzva | Anyone willing to document it :)? | 19:27 |
| Jazzva | hmm... if no one applies I'll see to do it later, if asac won't... | 19:28 |
| fta | that's politics, i pass | 19:28 |
| fta | Jazzva, ok, we'll poll asac. | 19:29 |
| Jazzva | ok... then we're ready for the next agenda item? | 19:29 |
| fta | what's next? | 19:29 |
| Jazzva | 2nd item: Bug work | 19:29 |
| Jazzva | Notes: There is way too many bugs on our packages: propose one day a week everyone works on bugs | 19:29 |
| Jazzva | ok... so, let's get few options set now, so we can decide on the final day when we get in touch with asac and gnomefreak... | 19:30 |
| fta | i remember asac worked with the bug squad a few weeks ago | 19:30 |
| Jazzva | fta, what do you mean? | 19:30 |
| fta | iirc, he wants the bug squad team to take care of the triaging as much as possible | 19:32 |
| fta | i guess we need asac here | 19:33 |
| Jazzva | mhm... so we need to see this with asac. (I thought we're gonna work on that) | 19:33 |
| fta | it's mostly described in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/TriagersHandbook | 19:33 |
| Jazzva | and it's pretty much done. the only thing we need is to document how to forward bugs upstream | 19:34 |
| fta | if we still have too many bugs after that, then we need to setup a mozilla bug day | 19:34 |
| Jazzva | ok... than not much to do on this now... | 19:36 |
| fta | right | 19:36 |
| fta | next | 19:36 |
| Jazzva | 3rd item: is libflashsupport really needed | 19:36 |
| Jazzva | Notes: libflashsupport only causes crashes and should be removed from repos IMO | 19:36 |
| XioNoX | in my mind, yes :D | 19:36 |
| Jazzva | heh :)... | 19:37 |
| fta | it's a pulseaudio + nonfree flash problem | 19:37 |
| Jazzva | are there any positive sides of libflashsupport? | 19:37 |
| XioNoX | if libflashsupport is not installed, we can play music only from 1 source | 19:37 |
| ogra | it makes sound work with pulse | 19:37 |
| fta | libflashsupport was no longer installed by default in hardy. something pulled it back in recently. asac complained. | 19:38 |
| ogra | libflashsupport is needed for flash <9 if you want to play any sound from it through pulse | 19:38 |
| ogra | err | 19:38 |
| ogra | <10 sorry | 19:38 |
| XioNoX | yep | 19:38 |
| ogra | hardy ships flash 9 | 19:38 |
| fta | (i know) | 19:39 |
| ogra | adobe did sme changes to their playback protocol shortly before we released | 19:39 |
| ogra | which make libflashsupport crash occasionally | 19:39 |
| ogra | nothing you can do about that without having the flash source | 19:39 |
| ogra | which we dont | 19:39 |
| Jazzva | so it's either no sound or crashing... right? | 19:40 |
| ogra | ine thing to consider would be to upgrade hardy to flash 10 and drop libflashsupport, but that violates SRU policy | 19:40 |
| ogra | *one | 19:40 |
| Jazzva | ogra, yep... that's what I thought, but then ditched it because of policy violation | 19:40 |
| fta | well, in intrepid, it's possible to have sound in flash without this lib, providing a good p-a setup, | 19:40 |
| ogra | probably something to bring in front of the TB | 19:40 |
| Jazzva | fta, that's true... so we can possibly drop libflashsupport in intrepid... | 19:41 |
| Jazzva | (sound in flash works for me) | 19:41 |
| ogra | right, intrepid uses flash 10 | 19:41 |
| ogra | lennart (pa upstream and libflashsupport upstream) had some words with adobe | 19:41 |
| ogra | and they actually listened | 19:42 |
| ogra | but that still doesnt solve it for hardy | 19:42 |
| fta | it works for me too (in intrepid) but there's a race for the dsp with other programs. i had to use the alsa-lib from crimson. | 19:42 |
| Volans | sorry but I have to go now... come back later, good meeting | 19:43 |
| fta | so... no cons for removal in intrepid, only pros ? | 19:44 |
| * ogra already requested libflashsupport removal | 19:44 | |
| Jazzva | fta, I guess for now... | 19:44 |
| ogra | (note that i used maintain it) | 19:44 |
| Jazzva | ogra, where? | 19:44 |
| ogra | removal you mean ? | 19:45 |
| Jazzva | yep | 19:45 |
| ogra | from intrpid | 19:45 |
| ogra | its not needed anymore since we have flash 10 there | 19:45 |
| Jazzva | and where did you requested it :)? a bug report? | 19:45 |
| Jazzva | what bug number? :) | 19:45 |
| ogra | which breaks with libflashsupport installed | 19:45 |
| ogra | i talked with colin about it | 19:45 |
| XioNoX | normally flash10 has improved the sound support, working fine for me without libflash | 19:46 |
| ogra | doesnt really need a bug report | 19:46 |
| Jazzva | ah... ok | 19:46 |
| ogra | dont worry, it will be gone soon, every package i dont have to care for frees up my time for more important stuff ;) | 19:47 |
| Jazzva | good :) | 19:47 |
| fta | ok, good. next ? | 19:47 |
| Jazzva | and I suppose we're done with this, too... | 19:47 |
| Jazzva | 4th item: Other business | 19:48 |
| fta | is there something ? | 19:48 |
| Jazzva | If anyone has to talk about any item, let's do it now :) | 19:48 |
| fta | i don't have anything | 19:50 |
| Jazzva | Well, I suppoe we're done then :) | 19:50 |
| Jazzva | *suppose | 19:50 |
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| fta | who's volunteering for the minutes ? | 19:50 |
| Jazzva | I'll write them... | 19:51 |
| fta | Jazzva, thank you | 19:51 |
| Jazzva | No problem :) | 19:51 |
| fta | we'll brief asac (or he'll read the channel logs) | 19:51 |
| Jazzva | Well, thank you all for attending the meeting. I suppose we done as much as we could. We will finish the rest in #ubuntu-mozillateam | 19:51 |
| Jazzva | See you there ;) | 19:52 |
| fta | thank you all for attending. see you next time, and visit us in #ubuntu-mozillateam if anything comes up in the meantime. | 19:52 |
| fta | bye. | 19:52 |
| === ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 05 Aug 22:00 UTC: Community Council | 06 Aug 20:00 UTC: Maryland LoCo IRC | 07 Aug 12:00 UTC: Ubuntu Mobile Team | 07 Aug 14:00 UTC: Ubuntu Java Team | 08 Aug 00:00 UTC: Americas Board | 08 Aug 04:00 UTC: Ubuntu MOTU | ||
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