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crimsunbddebian: dude, 493512?00:19
crimsunbddebian: ;-)00:19
bddebianLike that one? :)00:21
crimsunwell, I suppose it could be worse...00:22
crimsunbzr init00:22
crimsunsigh, sloppy focus00:22
ion_git init00:22
directhexhg init00:25
jmarsdenHow can I enable rebuilding manpages in a package that has a Makefile.in with a line such as   @ENABLE_REGENERATE_MAN_TRUE@README: pam_limits.8.xml limits.conf.5.xml    in it?  I edited the XML file to fix a documentation bug, but it isn't recreating the manpage for me...00:33
crimsunbddebian: patch attached.  Comments?01:04
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* NCommander finally has his crackberry working as a modem with Linux02:52
ScottKNCommander: Up for a REVU feature request?03:10
* ScottK has harrassed his teenagers and poured some Scotch, so time to see about some coding.03:11
ion_Your teenagers like scotch?03:11
ScottKNo.  That was for me.03:11
ion_I’m sure it’s a fine way to get them off your back, so you can code in peace.03:11
ScottKActually I let them try a nice peaty single malt once.03:12
ScottKThey don't want Scotch any more.03:12
ScottKI just love blog posts where they assume you care so much about whatever their project is they need to provide absolutely no context.03:14
ScottKhttp://www.vuntz.net/journal/2008/08/03/482-leaking-information-about-boston-summit-2008 in this case.03:14
ScottKI understand he's some Gnome guy, but that's it.03:14
crimsunnot a ding against Vincent, but I fear sometimes we get a bit too self-important.03:18
elkygnome people are especially good at this03:19
ScottKI understand he has a really big hat, but that's about all I know about him.03:19
ScottKI've lived in Texas, so I don't hold hats like that against people.03:19
crimsunhow true ;)03:20
ScottKJust filed my 2nd Launchpad bug of the day.03:20
ScottKSo I'm now above my 1.5 average, but no where near the 5-a-day I'm supposed to be aiming for.03:21
nxvlScottK: i think doc-base should be updated also03:24
nxvlScottK: since lintian raises some errors with the lasted version of it03:24
ScottKnxvl: ENOCONTEXT03:24
ScottKnxvl: Are you picking up on a conversation we were having previously?03:25
nxvlScottK: i've just have problems with one of them since i didn't found the section it was pointing to in my local version of it03:25
ScottKAh.  Is this related to the Debian Policy backport?03:25
nxvlyup03:26
ScottKThat's the context I was lacking.03:27
elkynxvl, do you use gnome by any chance?03:27
* elky ducks03:27
nxvlScottK: exactly03:27
nxvlelky: define "by any chance"03:28
elkynxvl, by any chance that it may form a case in point to my previous comment.03:28
ScottKelky: He's Peruvian.03:29
* nxvl reads log03:29
ScottK;-)03:29
elkyScottK, im not sure how to explain it, to be honest.03:29
elkybut by all means, suggest ;)03:30
nxvlheh03:30
nxvlyes i use gnome03:30
elkyScottK, case in point.03:30
* elky does too, and is notoriously terrible at providing context03:31
ScottKAh.03:31
wgrantScottK: I filed 15 LP bugs two days ago. And 9 the day before.03:31
* elky stops trolling03:32
* wgrant throws Ultamatix at elky.03:32
ScottKwgrant: Kewl.03:32
wgrantlinux.com's article was wonderful.03:32
* elky sets wgrant's face on fire.03:32
wgrantOw.03:32
* ScottK stomps on wgrant's face to put the fire out.03:33
ScottKJust trying to help.03:33
wgrantThanks.03:34
ScottKYou're welcome.03:34
* ScottK thinks he smells chicken cooking.03:34
ScottKOh, nevermind.03:34
Hobbseedear flash, please FOAD.  thankyou.03:37
* ScottK suddenly wonders why Launchpad doesn't use Flash. It seems like a perfect match.03:38
crimsundear -motu.  Please don't abuse the Flash highlight and make me frown.03:38
crimsun;)03:38
nxvlwooohooo \o/03:39
nxvlp.u.c will we open for community people also!03:39
nxvlemgent: Thank you!!03:39
emgentnp nxvl :)03:39
emgentthanks to Mark!03:39
crimsuncommunity being members of ~motu and ~ubuntu-core-dev?03:39
wgrantWoah.03:40
emgentno03:40
Hobbseecrimsun: please make firefox not crash whenever i'm loading a page.03:40
wgrantWhere was this announced?03:40
ScottKcrimsun: Yes.03:40
emgent~members too.03:40
ScottKOn emgent's blog.03:40
emgentwgrant: planet03:40
wgrantUrgh.03:40
emgent:D03:40
crimsunwow, that's nice03:40
wgrantI'm not sure that's a good idea.03:40
elkyugh... this will not end well03:40
wgrantAs a lot of ~ubuntumembers are technically clueless.03:40
ScottKWe already have PPAs, this can hardly be worse.03:40
wgrantOthers distros don't have that sort of thing.03:40
crimsunsweet, I'll put lolcats in mine!03:41
elkyScottK, only now *everyone* can recommend their PPAs on the planet03:41
ScottKThey could do that already.03:41
nxvlwgrant: yep, i still don't understand how elmo accepted it, but it's decided03:41
elkytheemahn could promote his ppa on the planet already... oh right... he didnt even use a ppa....03:41
ScottKPersonally I think they ought to turn the PPAs off until they're signed, but that's just me.03:42
wgrantnxvl: I'm very surprised.03:42
wgrantScottK: Mhm.03:42
* wgrant applauds emgent.03:42
elkyit's not even april fools day03:42
nxvlalso elmo being a debian sysadmin also, and knowing the nightmare it is03:42
elkynxvl, elmo will be sitting back waiting for the 'change it back' screams03:43
nxvlScottK: how signed?03:43
crimsunthere's likely a lot of sandboxing going on.03:43
wgrantnxvl: Like the primary archive.03:43
nxvloh03:43
wgrantnxvl: So I can't spoof your DNS and push my packages to your system03:43
nxvlthat would be awesome03:43
emgentwgrant: :)03:43
nxvlor provide some mechanism to download the gpg key03:44
wgrantnxvl: There is no GPG key. That's the problem.03:44
nxvli even have problems installing my packages since my system doesn't recognize my gpg key03:44
ScottKOK.  That's four.  One more and I've met my quota.03:44
nxvlwgrant: actually it shows me my fingerprint IIRC03:44
crimsunmeaning you hadn't merged it into the keyring?03:44
nxvlbut i can be wrong03:44
wgrantnxvl: Not on your PPA, no.03:45
ScottKShouldn't take long.03:45
nxvlScottK: 4 what?03:45
ScottK4 launchpad bugs filed today.03:45
wgrantScottK: I thought that too, but failed to make it to 20 in a day.03:45
ScottKI'm trying to do 5-a-day with Launchpad.03:45
ScottK19 is still pretty impressive.03:45
ScottKThe really depressing part is fix every bug and it'll still suck.03:45
ScottKYou can't bug fix your way to a good design.03:46
nxvloh ok03:46
wgrantIt helps, a bit.03:46
crimsunbut you sure can inflate your karma!03:46
nxvli'm fixing a LOT of pbuilder bugs03:46
nxvlalso i have just added a --build-twice-in-a-row option03:46
crimsunalthough I find it amusing that bzr work pretty much explodes one's karma03:46
nxvlbut i'm still fighting with doc-base03:47
ScottKnxvl: Thanks for build-twice-in-a-row.  That'll be a big help.03:47
ScottKcrimsun: Of course.03:47
nxvlScottK: actually it was a quick and easy hack03:47
ScottKdistro bug work counts almost nothing and distro uploads not at all.03:47
nxvl:D03:47
* nxvl loves shell script03:48
ScottKAs usual, it's easy to see where Launchpad development priority is.03:48
taconenxvl: is there any activity anywhere around ucsa ?03:48
crimsunn-m makes me frown.  When I say don't roam, I mean it, but you're like a bellicose child.03:49
nxvltacone: yep, packaging config-model03:49
nxvltacone: waiting for augeas-perl to be synced to ubuntu03:49
nxvland raphink being a machine writing lenses03:50
* nxvl HUGS rawler 03:50
nxvlerr03:50
* nxvl HUGS raphink 03:50
taconenxvl: apart from your honorous efforts, is there a mailing list, a forum or some place where people talk about it ?03:50
nxvltacone: about augeas, config-model or ucsa?03:51
nxvli think ucsa will end being config-model03:51
taconeI have no clue of what config-model is03:51
nxvlwith some configurations for ubuntu specific things03:51
taconeI meant about ucsa in general.03:51
nxvltacone: is a Blessing Aerosol03:52
nxvltacone: well, -server ml will be the right place03:52
ScottKOops.  That's 6.03:53
taconenxvl: nice to know ubuntu servers need Aereosol. So it's only you and raphink for now, and you coordinate your efforts on the server ml ?03:53
taconeScottK: it's 6 only in 1/24 of the world03:53
ScottKSo, here I am finally on the Launchpad page I wanted after only an hour and filing 5 bugs.03:54
nxvltacone: actually raphink is doing he's work on augeas, not specificaly on ucsa03:54
nxvltacone: he's helping ucsa with his work, but it's not specific to it03:54
nxvlso we coordinate it on the augeas ML03:54
emgentuhm..03:55
* nxvl is starting to hate doc-base03:56
nxvlemgent: btw, i have started translating motu-videos to spanish, why don't you make the same for italian?03:56
emgenti'm not in ubuntu it loco.03:56
ScottKSo?03:56
emgentanyway i sent mail some week ago to italian translater.03:57
emgent(when i saw daniel mail)03:57
nxvlemgent: and why did you need on ubuntu it loco to do it, you are in MOTU Community, and that's what matters03:57
nxvls/on/to be on/03:58
nxvli'm in peruvian loco team, but not part of ubuntu-es03:58
emgentyeah it`s true, but it loco translater working to it03:58
nxvlbut i speak spanish, i'm part of the MOTU community and i want to make it easy for more people to jump in03:59
nxvlso i did it03:59
nxvlemgent: i make the video again03:59
emgentsubtitles ?03:59
nxvlemgent: that means take a camera and put my face on the video explaining everything03:59
emgentlol understand :)04:00
HobbseeScottK: nice effort04:00
emgentheya Hobbsee :)04:01
ScottKI think that's 29 in two weeks.  None marked invalid so far.04:01
wgrantScottK: How many triaged?04:01
Hobbseehi emgent04:01
Hobbseewgrant: close to none, probably04:01
ScottK604:02
wgrantAbout half of mine were triaged within a day or two, which seems to support my theory that they work faster if you drown them.04:02
Hobbseehah04:02
emgentna paralis!04:18
emgentops, wrong window -.-04:18
nxvlScottK: i have just send the patch for twice-in-a-row to bts if you want to take a look at it and test04:18
nxvlScottK: i will apreciate feedback04:19
ScottKnxvl: Link me the bug and I'll try and look at it.  I'm currently fading, so it won't be tonight.04:19
nxvlScottK: i'm on holidays, so i have no hurry :D04:20
* nxvl searches the link04:20
nxvlScottK: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=49353804:20
ubottuDebian bug 493538 in pbuilder "Please add --build-twice-in-a-row option" [Wishlist,Open]04:20
ScottKThanks.04:20
nxvlScottK: and debdiff on Bug #254305 if you want to sponsor it04:24
nxvl:D04:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 254305 in pbuilder "pbuilder 0.181ubuntu3 is not lintian clean" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25430504:24
nxvlok04:24
nxvlnow to sleep tomorrow i need to wake up early to fo to adventure island04:25
nxvlread you!04:26
ScottKHobbsee: Was that sarcasm in 254333?04:35
ScottKI'm very tired, so I can't tell just now.04:35
wgrantScottK: That's the way you're meant to do it, and I can't see that changing.04:37
wgrantAlthough it makes little sense.04:37
ScottKwgrant: I don't care if it's designed to show me irrelevant stuff.  I'd still rather it stop.04:40
wgrantScottK: Please wait while some LP reeducators arrive at your home.04:41
ScottKYeah, fortunately none of them live near here.04:41
ScottKThis is unlike the SELinux upstream people I was seriously annoying during Hardy (trying to avoid a permanent fork from Debian).04:42
ScottKTheir office is 20 minutes from my house.04:42
emgentlol04:43
wgrantHeh.04:43
ScottK"I care more about not forking from Debian than I do if it works and so I"ll just upload it as is if I don't hear back." proved to be a powerful motivator.04:44
jonfore_I'm curious about the Bug tracker...what do the status' mean? ex. - Confirmed, Triaged...04:50
jonfore_anyone?04:51
Flanneljonfore_: You'd be better off asking in #ubuntu-bugs, but confirmed means the bug has been confirmed, Triaged means its successfully undergone triage (correct bookkeeping information on the bug, right package, etc)04:52
VladimirMeloanyone can help me?05:11
VladimirMeloI'm getting a pbuilder error05:12
VladimirMelowhen applying patches05:12
ScottKNot if you don't pastebin the error somewhere were we can see it, no.05:13
VladimirMelook05:13
lifelessScottK: triple negative FTW05:13
ScottKSome people say negativity is my speciality.05:14
VladimirMelohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/33536/05:14
VladimirMeloI was trying to create a liferea deb05:15
VladimirMeloupdating...05:15
ScottKYour problem is here: applying patch 02_upstream_fix_crash_on_quit_when_updating to ./ ... failed.05:15
ScottKThat patch doesn't apply.05:15
VladimirMeloyeah05:15
ScottKAre you trying to package a new version?05:16
VladimirMeloyes05:16
VladimirMelowhat I should do?05:16
ScottKOdds are something changed with the code in that part of the package.05:16
ScottKHave you used dpatch-edit-patch before?05:17
VladimirMeloScottK: no05:17
ScottKYou want to learn about that.  See man dpatch-edit-patch.05:17
ScottKYou'll also want to look at the code in the new upstream to see if the patch is still needed.05:18
VladimirMeloScottK: I tried to do the same with pidgin and got the same trouble05:18
VladimirMelook05:18
ScottKIf the patch is no longer needed, you can remove it from debian/patches and debian/patches/00list, and say so in debian/changelog.05:18
VladimirMeloScottK: that's OK :)05:19
VladimirMeloScottK: thanks05:19
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coolbhavihello I am getting an error with requestsync command: http://pastebin.com/d1cedae7f06:47
punkrockguy318Hey, the project that i've been working on has just put together a major release that I'd like to see get updated in Ubuntu.  Who can I talk to about this?06:50
stefanlsdpunkrockguy318: best thing would be to contribute it yourself - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted06:52
punkrockguy318my package is already in ubuntu06:53
punkrockguy318it's just the first update in about four years or so06:53
crimsunfile a bug against the source package and include the necessary information06:53
punkrockguy318crimsun: alright06:56
punkrockguy318crimsun: done07:12
txwikingerMust a sync request be confirmed by a MOTU before it goes to the archive admin?07:53
RAOFYes07:55
txwikingerok thanks07:55
coolbhavihello http://pastebin.com/d18beec2d error please help07:56
IulianLutin: Done, thanks for telling me.08:12
gesercoolbhavi: re your first problem with requestsync: the correct use here would be "requestsync --lp -s clamfs intrepid"08:55
gesercoolbhavi: and for the second problem (with the mail) you need help from LP devs08:56
coolbhaviOk..08:56
coolbhavigeser, https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/4108109:06
stefanlsdWhat do we do with these messages - dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: dependency on libfontconfig.so.1 could be avoided if "debian/gpa/usr/bin/gpa" were not uselessly linked against it (they use none of its symbols)- log bug upstream?09:23
RAOFstefanlsd: You can deal with this (at least) two ways - you can remove the symptom by passing something like "--as-needed" to gcc, or you can fix the .pc file to only include libs that are actually necessary.09:25
RAOFThe latter probably requires upstream participation, yes.09:25
stefanlsdRAOF: is it any reason to stop the inclusion of a package?09:26
RAOFAbsolutely not.09:26
stefanlsdkk. thanks09:26
RAOFThat warning will be triggered on a significant fraction of the archive.09:27
AnAntis Matvey Kozhev here ?09:29
geserAnAnt: looks like Sikon/LucidFox is not here right now09:46
IulianWould anyone like to ack some sync requests?09:47
geserIulian: which ones?09:48
mgolischheya are there any guidelines on packaging python software?09:52
mgolischits one main script and severall files holding classes the script uses09:52
mgolischwhat would be the right way to package this?09:52
Iuliangeser: See private.09:52
MrKanisterHello10:02
IulianHi10:02
gnomefreakScottK: didnt we pull flash 10 from Hardy backports?10:04
MrKanisterI'v a question about REVU: Some say the Distribution in the Changelog has to "hardy", some others say it has to be "intrpid"...so whats correct now?10:04
stefanlsdmgolisch: Have a look in the wiki for the last openweek sessions. If i remember, one of them was specifically for packing python10:05
mgolischok will have a look10:05
IulianMrKanister: Intrepid10:06
geserMrKanister: it has to be always the current development version, which is currently intrepid10:06
MrKanisterThat's what I thought....it makes more sense, but I was unsure. Thank you two :)10:07
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cyberixWhere should dh_testdir and dh_testroot be used?10:12
Iuliangeser: Thanks10:15
stefanlsdHow do i build a .deb after making my .dsc. should i be looking at pdebuild?10:16
persiastefanlsd: Either pbuilder or sbuild.10:17
stefanlsdpersia: thanks. will try sbuild10:19
persiastefanlsd: Do you use LVM?10:19
stefanlsdpersia: yeah10:19
persiaIn that case, you might find the mk-sbuild-lv script in ubuntu-dev-tools will do almost everything for you.10:19
stefanlsdmm. i think i need to go thru the pbuilder docs to understand it better.10:22
persiastefanlsd: Hrm?  Why the pbuilder docs if you are using sbuild?10:23
stefanlsdpersia: wb - well, im thinking if i can just open and check stuff after i've used pbuilder, i dont need to go and make .debs.  I just really wanna check stuff is in the right place...10:28
persiastefanlsd: You want to make .debs: it's the easiest way to check things.10:29
persiaWhether you use pbuilder or sbuild is up to you.  sbuild is considered slightly harder to set up, requires more allocation of disk space, and is slightly faster.10:29
persiapbuilder is a little easier to set up, requires less disk space, and differs from the environment on the buildds a little more than sbuild.10:30
stefanlsdpersia: if i have pbuilder already. will that just work, or do i need pdebuild - which is like 300mb10:30
persiastefanlsd: That's not a question I can answer: I've never used pbuilder.10:30
stefanlsdpersia: k :)10:31
geserIulian: clisp FTBFS (see my comment on the bug for the failure)10:32
yannickHello, is the PPA service down?10:36
persiayannick: You'll do better to ask in #launchpad10:37
yannickok, thanks10:37
stefanlsdWhat would be the best way to test if things like the .desktop file and icon files are done correctly?  I have used desktop-file-validate on the .desktop file.10:38
persiastefanlsd: desktop-file-validate tries to verify that the file is correct in format, but doesn't check function.  For a test of function, you need to load it in a menuing front-end.  The standard means to do so is to install a .deb including the required files.10:40
persiaNote that you'll need to be running a system with a xdg-compliant menu system (e.g. GNOME, KDE, Xfce)10:41
stefanlsdpersia: ok. yeah. thats why i wanted to make the deb and try install it and see what happens :010:42
persiastefanlsd: For which you'll want to become familiar with sbuild or pbuilder :)10:43
stefanlsdpersia: yeah. thanks running standard gnome10:43
stefanlsdpersia: kk. thanks. doing it now10:45
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Iuliangeser: It builds fine here - i38611:51
IulianNo idea why it FTBFS on amd.11:51
HobbseeScottK: if it's your bug i commented on, no.11:52
cyberixI'm working on a package that will contain python bindings for a C library that has already been packaged.11:55
cyberixthe upstream package contains some simple C code and has a setup.py script which compiles the C code and installs everything to a directory11:56
cyberixHow should I divide my packaging rules between the different targets in rules file?11:57
IulianOT: Is anyone here good at making icons?11:58
* Iulian needs one for http://live.gnome.org/PaperBox11:59
cyberixNo, they are at #tango11:59
persiaIulian: An icon from scratch, or an icon from some random images that already exist?11:59
Iulianpersia: From scratch because I cannot see anything that can help in the source package. It's a program that lets you view your ebooks, text docs etc.12:01
persiaIulian: Ah.  You might try #ubuntu-art then.12:02
IulianOk12:02
Iulianpersia: It has +i, I must be invited to join it.12:03
mouzIulian: I have had success asking for there help on their mailing list12:05
mouz*their help12:05
jpdsIulian: #ubuntu-artwork12:05
jpdsIt's a forwarding channel.12:05
jpdsAccording to /msg ChanServ info #ubuntu-art12:05
Iulianjpds: Thanks12:07
persiaIulian: I'm sorry: I didn't mean to send you to the wrong place.12:10
Iulianpersia: No problem!12:10
emgentmoin12:17
IulianHey emgent12:18
mgolischdoes ppa.ubuntu.com support other upload methods than ftp?13:21
DktrKranzmgolisch, IIRC no13:24
mgolischok13:25
mgolischftp needs more than one port right?13:25
mgolischi have no direct internet connection13:25
\shmgolisch: nope13:30
mgolischdamn13:30
\shmgolisch: passive mode of ftp doesn't need a port 2013:30
StevenKIt still requires two active connections13:30
mgolischbut it would require that my client can do outgoing connection on other ports right?13:31
\shaeh one to the server (21) and one back (>1024) but this is normal tcp behaviour13:31
mgolischwhich is not the case13:31
StevenK\sh: No, two seperate connections. High port -> 21, and High port client -> high port server for passive or high port client -> 2013:31
mgolischi only have a http proxy and a ssh server which i can use to forward localports to some remotehost:port13:32
mgolischi guess that wont work for ftp13:32
lagayou could upload from the the ssh server?13:33
lagas/the//13:33
mgolischyeah i could do that13:33
\shStevenK: ah yes :)13:33
mgolischdo the gpg keys need to be imported there too? for dput to work?13:33
mgolischor does it not do anything with the gpg keys?13:33
StevenKmgolisch: dput will verify the signature is valid, and then upload.13:34
StevenKmgolisch: The server then checks your key is in the keyring13:34
mgolischdamn maybe ill just wait for my dsl line to get fixed13:34
mgolischmight be easier13:34
mgolisch:)13:34
Laneygeser: Hey, what do you want to do about nepenthes?13:45
geserLaney: first I want to reach soren and ask about the dropped libipq_pic.a in iptables-dev. Once it's back again, one could think about adding the iptables-dev build-dependency again.13:47
Laneygeser: Is that build-dep all it needs? Or patches to configure too?13:48
geserLaney: I don't know what the DD do, to disable it13:48
Laneyok13:49
geserLaney: it's also need a small patch to link against libipq_pic.a (see the old Ubuntu changes)13:49
LaneyYep, I saw that. Just thought we'd go with the DD. But if we want to keep the PIC stuff then that's cool too13:50
geserLaney: It depends if libipq_pic.a comes back again (nepenthes needed it in the past and perlipq still needs it to build on AMD64)13:52
Laneygeser: OK, maybe after you've talked to soren then you can decide what to do ;)13:52
geserLaney: if you prefer I can upload the current changes now and add back iptables-dev later13:52
Laneygeser: It's up to you. Perhaps figure out how long it'll take and then upload now if there's going to be a longish delay, or otherwise wait?13:53
geserLaney: I guess I'll upload now as soren seems to be away since a few days13:54
LaneyOK, sounds good13:55
devfilasac: I've tested all rdepends of xulrunner as you requested13:55
slytheringeser: I have filed bug for the openjdk problem. Do you have any idea how to debug it?13:56
geserslytherin: Hi, no idea14:01
geserslytherin: have you some time to inspect the libjboss-cache1-java FTBFS? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16481939/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.libjboss-cache1-java_1.4.1.SP9-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz14:02
geserdoes perhaps jbossas4 need a new interation where some jars are included again?14:02
slytheringeser: exactly, but this openjdk problem is blocking that.14:03
geserargh14:04
geserslytherin: I tried installing openjdk-6-jre-headless inside my intrepid pbuilder and it installs successfully (I'm on AMD64)14:10
gesercan you reproduce this problem?14:10
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slytheringeser: I am checking. I have just changed build dependency from java-gcj-compat-dev to default-jdk-builddep and changed JAVA_HOME accordingly14:11
persiaWhich bug number is this?14:12
slytherinpersia: bug 25422114:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 254221 in openjdk-6 "VM initialization error when install openjdk" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25422114:14
slytheringeser: I am not able to reproduce the error today.14:14
persiaHmmm.  For amd64, I can install openjdk-6-jre-headless, but I get a bug error when I try to run `java`.  For i386 and lpia, I get dependency issues: segfault during openjdk-6-jre-headless install (these chroots are on an amd64 host)14:22
persias/bug/bus/14:22
sebnerjoaopinto: really sure that I can takeover coverfinder?14:27
mgolischis there something special i have to do to make my packages show up in my ppa?14:32
mgolischdput seems to have uploaded the package but the archive is still not there14:32
mgolischdid i do something wrong?14:32
persiamgolisch: You may want to ask in #launchpad: there was talk of something having issues earlier.14:33
Lutincrimsun: ping about a change you made on trang (GCJFLAGS = -O0)14:40
Hobbseepersia: it's dead.14:44
StevenKpersia: Do those chroots have /proc mounted?14:44
slytheringeser: I am getting problem again. It is either memory problem or something related to have gcj and openjdk installed simultaneously in the chroot.14:45
geserslytherin: does keeping java-gcj-compat-dev for now work? so we could get the boot-strapping finished and change to openjdk later once the problems are solved?14:47
slytheringeser: that doesn't make a difference. I was having problem even when java-gcj-compat-dev was there. Then it worked with openjdk and I am having problem again.14:48
geser:(14:48
slytheringeser: The difference I have made is I added some build dependencies to proceed. Let me check if any of those deendencies specifically depend on gcj14:49
slytherinI mean java-gcj-compat14:49
slytheringeser: I am bit confused, why does default-jdk-builddep depend on java-gcj-compat-dev?15:03
geserslytherin: wasn't the -builddep variant for those packages which still build a -gcj variant? so it make sense that it installs gcj15:04
slytheringeser: I guess then I don't need it. I only need default-jdk15:05
geserslytherin: yes, AFAIK you only need default-jdk-builddep when you build <package>-gcj15:08
geserslytherin: I was about to look at your libpdfbox-java debdiff: should I change it there too to just default-jdk?15:09
slytheringeser: yes.15:10
slytheringeser: I am tired, still getting same error. :-(15:32
crimsunLutin: pong, was from Debian IIRC15:33
persiaStevenK: They do15:35
geserslytherin: hmm, for what's worth: I've tried to rebuild the current jbossas4 package and it still builds15:36
slytheringeser: I am doing all this on my dad's laptop. I will do it on my machine tomorrow when I return to my work place.15:37
geserI've seen doko doing several rebuild for openjdk and the FTBFS list doesn't show many -java packages15:37
persiageser: On amd64?  Do you have an 1386 chroot?15:37
geserpersia: on amd64, I didn't create a i386 intrepid pbuilder yet (no need till now)15:38
geserslytherin: have you anything that I could try here?15:41
slytheringeser: Nope. I think I will continue tomorrow. Have to go now.15:42
geserslytherin: ok15:42
joaopintosebner, yes15:44
Lutincrimsun: doesn't seem to be in debian anymore, do you think it's useful to kkep it ? it's the only delta remaining15:50
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ScottKgnomefreak: We did.15:50
gnomefreakScottK: thanks15:51
crimsunLutin: no, it's not worth retaining.  Sync it.15:51
ScottKThe version number is still there, but it's the part after really that's the real version.15:51
Lutincrimsun: thanks15:56
persiaHrm.  I'm getting a lot of "untrusted packages" warnings on a hardy system.  Is there something funny with keys?15:56
ScottKAre these sounrce packages?15:58
ScottKurgh ... source ...15:59
persiaScottK: No.  Binary packages.16:01
ScottKHmmm.  No, I don't see that.16:02
persiaOK.  My config then.  Thanks for the verification.16:02
ScottKThat or your DNS cache is poisoned (probably not, but worth considering)/16:02
persiaQuite possibly.  My provider is vulnerable.16:03
Mezare we in a freeze atm ?16:06
persiaMez: Only import freeze16:06
Mezhmmles... why would something show as uploaded in LP, but not be in the archives?16:06
ScottKin New maybe?16:07
persiaMez: Source not published?  After how long?16:07
Mezpersia, binary not published...16:07
persiaMez: Check the build history: there are all sorts of reasons that could happen.16:07
MezPUBLISHED: Intrepid  pocket Release  in component main  and section web16:08
Mezah feck16:08
MezFTBFS16:08
ScottKThat would be another possibility.16:09
MezYeah, needs to be given back16:14
geserMez: which package?16:15
Mezphp516:15
geserMez: you need a core-dev for that (or a build admin)16:16
Mezgeser, I know...16:17
geserHobbsee: have you time to help Mez?16:19
Mezgeser, I've already /msg'd her16:20
gesergood16:20
Hobbseegeser: core devs can't do givebacks16:25
Hobbseeunless they're buildd admins too, of course16:25
Hobbseearchive admins can't, either.16:27
geserHobbsee: so it's enough to be a MOTU to do give-backs for universe, but you need to be a build admin to give-back packages in main?16:28
Hobbseegeser: can MOTU's do givebacks for universe now?16:28
geserHobbsee: at least I could do it the last time I needed it16:28
Hobbseecool16:29
Hobbseei don't know - maybe the main people can do it.16:29
Hobbseei've not heard any talk about it16:29
Hobbseeand of course, i wouldn't see the change.16:29
jpdsI was under the impression that everyone can give-back, assuming they're in motu or ubuntu-core-dev16:31
ScottKMez: You want all the php5 builds in Intrepid retried?16:32
ScottK(Yes, core-dev can do that).16:32
ScottKMez: If so, why is it going to work the 2nd time?16:33
geserScottK: looking at the build log, it should work now because libltdl7-dev is now in main16:34
ScottKHobbsee: If I understand the terms correctly, he wants a retry of a failed build, not a give-back of one that worked.16:34
ScottKTrying i38616:35
stefanlsdI've built a new the gpa version from upstream. Do i just upload the debdiff to the bug? who do i subscribe?16:36
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Laneystefanlsd: Upload the .diff.gz and subscribe the appropriate sponsors queue16:38
stefanlsdLaney: how do i know who the appropriate sponsors queue would be?16:38
Laneypackage in {uni,multi}verse: ubuntu-universe-sponsors. main/restricted: ubuntu-main-sponsors16:39
stefanlsdLaney: aah. kk. thanks.16:39
MezScottK, Hobbsee has already flipped the magic switches :) she knows what I meant - it failed to build cause of an uninstallable dependency. Which now works.16:41
ScottKOK.16:42
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ScottKHeya \sh.16:55
ScottKI made a comment on your Leonov release schedule ...16:56
sebner\sh: congratulations ;)16:58
emgentsebner: walcome back! :)16:59
emgents/walcome/welcome/16:59
sebneremgent: thx ^^16:59
gesersebner: Hi, how was your vacation?17:00
sebnergeser: yeah was nice. Though I'm here since wednesday :P17:01
jpdssebner: How was your beauty sleep?17:02
sebnerjpds: It was so great that if I would send you a picture of me now you would get blind :P17:03
stefanlsdfirefox keeps crashing trying to attach a debdiff. heh17:23
emma:)17:25
* ScottK hands https://help.launchpad.net/BugTrackerEmailInterface to stefanlsd17:27
stefanlsdhehe. thanks. got it working.  had to click new session, instead of restart17:27
stefanlsdAnyone mind just giving this a glance before i subscribe u-u-s? - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gpa/+bug/160751     (new to this)17:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 160751 in gpa "gpa: new upstream version 0.7.6 available" [Wishlist,In progress]17:28
* ScottK files another launchpad bug.17:28
sebnerScottK: another, another, another :)17:31
Mezis there a quick way to automatically test all the packages for dependencies that cant be installed?17:31
ScottKsebner: I got my 5 yesterday, so I'm happy.17:32
sebnerScottK: hrhr :)17:32
ScottKNot kidding.17:32
sebnerScottK and his crusage against LP :P17:33
chesteronihello :-)17:34
ScottKsebner: I just think we should have good tools.17:34
sebnerScottK: good = open? :P17:35
ScottKGood == does the job well.17:35
chesteroniI just found something that looks like an error in package python-xml (package is lacking some important modules present in tarball)17:35
stefanlsdim pretty impressed with LP17:35
chesteroniIs it a good place to ask what is really wrong ?17:35
ScottKThe fact that it's not open limits my ability to affect that.17:36
sebnerScottK: kk ;)17:36
ScottKchesteroni: Sure.17:36
ScottKchesteroni: Keep in mind that the python-xml package we have is only meant to provide things not provided by Python itself (much of python-xml was incorporated into Python in python2.4.17:36
ScottK)17:36
chesteroniso my problem ist very simple to reproduce: I need to use Canonicalization module (c14n) from PyXML17:37
geserMez: something like "apt-cache unmet -i"?17:37
chesteronifrom xml.dom.ext import Canonicalize17:37
chesteronithat's all - it doesn't work because python do not know what is 'ext'17:37
chesteroniext is availavle in PyXML tarball and after manual installation it works, but I couldn't force python to run it without manual installing17:38
ScottKOK.17:39
Mezgeser, sort of...17:39
ScottKchesteroni: I'm looking at it.17:42
chesteroniok, thanks ScottK :-)17:43
ScottK-laptopchesteroni: I think I have the solution for you.17:43
ScottK-laptopIn Hardy we moved the old python-xml functions out of the default path so they wouldn't be used in place of the ones provided by Python.17:44
ScottK-laptopThis works for me ...17:44
ScottK-laptopimport sys17:44
ScottK-laptopsys.path.append('/usr/lib/python%s/site-packages/oldxml' % sys.version[:3])17:45
ScottK-laptopfrom xml.dom.ext import Canonicalize17:45
ScottK-laptopchesteroni: Would that solve your problem?17:45
chesteroniI'm looking but it might be possible that manual installation changed environment conditions and made the answer unreliable17:46
ScottK-laptopOK.  If you want stuff from the old python-xml that's, I think, pretty well the way to do it.17:48
ScottK-laptopFYI, I borrowed that from the pyslide package.17:48
Mezgeser, nope, that doesnt exactly show what I'm looking for - it doesnt tell me for example, that17:49
Mez  freetds-dev: Depends: libct4 (= 0.82-3) but it is not going to be installed17:49
Mez               Depends: libsybdb5 (= 0.82-3) but it is not going to be installed17:49
chesteroniok, ScottK - it works, but I'm not sure, that is the solution (because of installation of the tarball). Anyway - why i needed to append my path, when e.g. from xml.dom import minidom works fine ?17:49
ScottKThe python-xml functions that were incorporated in Python itself in 2.4 are available on the normal path (and you don't need python-xml installed).  Those that weren't need the non-standard patch and the python-xml package.17:51
chesteroniwell - that's what I don't understand - they need the non-standard path... but installing the tarball does not force me to change the path.17:52
chesteroniAnyway - I am totally lame in packaging system so forgive me my ignorance :)17:53
ScottKThe path changes are part of the Ubuntu packaging of python-xml.17:53
ScottKThe problem is that python-xml is pretty unmaintained and so where something exists in Python itself you'd really rather not use the older python-xml version.17:54
* ScottK goes AFK for a while ...17:55
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sebnerjoaopinto: mind telling me something about your patches for coverfinder?20:09
joaopintohum, let me check them20:10
joaopintosebner, not much to say, adds a missing header, and a format string as expected by the function20:11
sebnerjoaopinto: noticed during testing the application?20:11
joaopintoduring compile time on intrepid, gcc4.320:12
joaopintoactually I forgot to send them upstream20:12
joaopintoor maybe I did.. hum need to review my sent mails :P20:13
sebnerjoaopinto: because /here it's building without problems ;)20:13
joaopintowell, did you got warnings ? eventually I had different cflags and warnings were treated as errors20:14
sebnerjoaopinto: have to check again. but if sent them upstream it's good. need to patch also the .desktop file though20:15
joaopintocan someone review http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=amoebax ? Thanks20:17
NCommandersebner, what are you trying to build?20:24
sebnerNCommander: nothing, why? O_o20:24
NCommandersebner, oh ...20:24
* NCommander hides20:24
sebnerNCommander: lol, nvm ;)20:25
NCommandersebner, so what's up?20:25
sebnerNCommander: nothing, I'm just taking over a package on revu and asked for what the patches in it are20:25
NCommandersebner, I was trying to find an advocate for my package20:26
NCommandersebner, http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=pangomm20:26
sebnerNCommander: sry, I'm not (yet) a motu :P20:26
NCommanderd'oh20:27
NCommanderScottK, ping?20:27
sebnerNCommander: norsetto gave to a big list to work on ;)20:27
NCommandersebner, its mostly questions that have already been resolved20:28
ScottKNCommander: Pong20:29
NCommanderScottK, mind I can torture^W bug you for looking at a package?20:29
ScottKOK.20:30
ScottKI can give it a quick look.  No promised on a detailed scrub.20:30
NCommanderScottK, well, I need to upload another revision so hold on20:30
joaopintothe mandvd package on revu is abandoned, can a user dput over an existing package from another user ?20:43
ScottKYes.20:44
joaopintook, I will pick it up once amoebax gets accepted20:45
stefanlsdhow long does it take "normally" for u-u-s to check out a diff...20:46
ScottKIt varies.  Normally a few days.  Dunno how backup up it is right now.20:46
stefanlsdoh ok.  are community members on u-u-s or canonical employees. or both?20:47
geserevery MOTU can sponsor from the u-u-s queue20:47
stefanlsdok. once you are a member of the MOTU team?20:48
ScottKAny MOTU can sponsor.20:48
ScottKIf you're on the team you can unsubscribe stuff from the team if it's not ready.20:49
lagais motu-sru still alive?20:49
ScottKThat's really the only difference.20:49
ScottKlaga: Yes, just with some fewer members.20:49
bobbostefanlsd: the sponsorship queue is quite slow this cycle, i have a couple of bugfixes that have been siting there for 3+ weeks20:49
geserScottK: do you know who from motu-sru is currently most active? I still wait for a comment from motu-sru.20:50
ScottKgeser: It's been mostly dtkranz (that's not his IRC nick, but it's close).20:51
sebnerScottK: dktrkranz :P20:59
Laneyd21:01
LaneyIgnore that21:01
* sebner is ignoring Laney :P21:01
cyberixWhich one should be preferred?  1) copying man pages directly from the source tree 2) copying man pages from installed tree after "make install"21:10
azeemcyberix: usually the latter is done21:14
azeemcyberix: though one wouldn't have to copy them again once they're installed, just include them in the package21:14
cyberixazeem: I split the files into multiple packages. That is why I'm compying them21:17
azeemthen usually the files get installed in debian/tmp, and from there installed into the respective package by the appropriate debhelper program21:20
nxvlpersia: around?21:25
sebnerasac: what is the mozilla chan called again?21:35
asacsebner: #ubuntu-mozillateam21:36
asacsimple ;)21:36
jpdssebner: /msg Alis list #ubuntu-*21:37
sebnerjpds: thx, for future ^^21:39
nxvlsebner: did you have some time free now?21:43
sebnernxvl: hmm, depending on what and how long you need :P21:44
nxvlsebner: to test the patch on Bug #25430521:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 254305 in pbuilder "pbuilder 0.181ubuntu3 is not lintian clean" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25430521:45
sebnernxvl: well, clearly not today but tomorrow.21:46
nxvlsebner: sounds awesome to me21:49
sebnernxvl: really ok? Since I'm not the only person currently online ^^21:49
nxvlsebner: yes, i'm just looking for testers21:50
nxvlsebner: and better to have more testers than less21:50
sebnernxvl: sure since the changes are not that ignorable ^^21:51
RoAkSoAxheya guys, in debian/control i should remove "Uploaders: etc..." right?21:51
nxvlsebner: at least that feature, all the other changes in the patch are minor changes21:59
sebnerRoAkSoAx: nope22:00
sebnernxvl: yep, hope it works ^^22:00
RoAkSoAxsebner, but if Uploaders: tag is for debian, shouldn't it be removed from ubuntu debian/control?22:00
ScottKRoAkSoAx: Why would you want to do that?22:01
sebnerRoAkSoAx: we want to keep the delta as small as possible. we just change the maintainer and don't want to remove anything22:01
RoAkSoAxok cool22:01
ScottKWhat advantage would that additional differene create?22:01
nxvlScottK: that in ubuntu we don't have uploaders22:02
nxvlScottK: and someone can think that the uploader where responsable for uploading that into ubuntu22:02
nxvlScottK: at least we should move it into an XS- field22:03
RoAkSoAxthanks22:03
ScottKI don't think that's significant.22:03
LaneyCan I tell CDBS not to gzip docs that are installed?22:03
ScottKWhy?  The whole point of changing maintainer was to avoid confusion.  Since we don't use uploaders, it's just wasteful diff.  By definition uploaders are Debian.22:03
RoAkSoAxScottK, because i thought the same thing as nxvl22:04
ScottKOK.  I don't think it's worth it.22:04
* directhex makes an NMU upload of ScottK 22:04
sebnerlol22:05
ScottKLaney: Try DEB_COMPRESS_EXCLUDE := with a regex of the files that should be excluded.22:05
LaneyScottK: Thanks.22:05
nxvlScottK: did you test the build-twice-in-a-row feature?22:06
ScottKnxvl: Not yet.22:06
ScottKProbably tomorrow.22:06
sebnernxvl: hihi, all tomorrow22:06
nxvlScottK: i also move gdebi to suggests, since you where right, there is no need of it in recommends22:06
ScottKUnless you want to come over and clean the kitchen while I do it?22:06
sebnerScottK: like me ^^22:06
nxvlsebner: i'm on holidays in orlando, so there is no hurry22:06
ScottKnxvl: Did you get the alternative for the KDE version?22:06
nxvlsebner: today we had a stop since we all are to tired to continue shaking ourselfs in the roller coasters22:07
sebnernxvl: maybe I can save time and install your binary? ^^22:07
sebnernxvl: lol22:07
nxvlScottK: i don't see the point to use "|" on suggestions, it will show onyl one, and it will be the first always22:07
nxvlScottK: so no, i didn't22:08
nxvlScottK: for depends and (now) for recommends it's usefull since if you have one installed it will accept it, but for raising a suggestion, i don;t think it worth it22:09
nxvlsebner: yeah, but i don't know what's happening with ppa, i uploaded it yesterday and it's not build yet22:11
sebnernxvl: I'll see tomorrow :)22:11
nxvl:P22:12
ScottKnxvl: apt does have an option for install suggests, so I think it's useful.22:13
nxvlScottK: ok, that's sounds fair to me22:15
* nxvl changes22:15
LaneyScottK: DEB_COMPRESS_EXCLUDE worked well, thanks22:15
LaneyAlmost ready for REVU now ;)22:15
ScottKLaney: You're welcome.22:15
Laney(Is there a list of these vars anywhere apart from source diving?)22:16
cyberixIs there something wrong with REVU?22:23
cyberixI uploaded my package 30 minutes ago and it still has not appeared.22:23
jpdscyberix: Which package?22:23
cyberixpyliblo22:23
jpdscyberix: It's in the rejected/ directory, please log in with OpenID at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com.22:24
jpdsDo not reupload. :) I'll just move the .changes file to the right folder.22:25
jpdscyberix: All good?22:26
cyberixThe login failed, but I still got in22:27
jpdsUsing your Launchpad OpenID?22:27
cyberixyep22:27
cyberixIt tried loading http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/index.p22:27
cyberixwhich didn't exist22:27
jpdsSo at /index.py, you are logged in?22:28
cyberixyes22:29
jpdscyberix: OK, moved the .changes back into the upload queue. If all does well, it should come up soon.22:29
cyberixSo the upload got rejected because I had not done the Launchpad magic?22:29
jpdsYes, the keyring was redone, logging in now does the keysync magic.22:30
jpdsRainCT_: Please look into cyberix's error above when you can. Cheers.22:30
RoAkSoAxjpds, seems to be a bug in the sing in process. Cuz after clicking on "sign in", we are redirected to http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/index.p instead of /index.py22:30
jpdsRoAkSoAx: Hence my poke-age above. :)22:31
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RoAkSoAxjpds, yeah by manually adding the .py it works just fine22:31
jpdsAh, here he is.22:32
jpdscyberix: If your key ID is "0xF5C22A36" - all is well.22:32
RainCTIt works fine here. From what page do you log in?22:33
cyberixit is22:33
cyberixCan't remember. The main page I suppose.22:33
cyberixI cannot reproduce the problem22:34
cyberixThis time it worked ok22:34
ion_I don’t understand why it’s exposing /index.py in the first place. Just redirect to / and the URL is pretty and consistent.22:34
cprovfyi, PPA build farm is working again22:36
cprovit's possible that sources in https://edge.launchpad.net/~team-xbmc-svn/+archive are causing the issue. So, if you see the builder stuck again, please ping someone at #launchpad.22:37
* wgrant wonders why the dom0s don't kill the builder domUs if they break.22:39
RainCTion_: because it send you back to the page from where you log in22:44
RainCT(but only if the referer URL starts with http://revu.ubuntuwire.com, of course)22:46
ion_rainct: Simply substitute /index.py with / and all is fine in the world. :-)22:47
RainCTion_: why? there's no need to do that :)22:48
ion_rainct: It’s not very nice having multiple URLs pointing to the same page.22:50
emgentheya23:13
cyberixHow am I supposed to run dh_pysupport when I have multiple binary packages?23:19
persiacyberix: use a replacement variable for -p23:42
CarlFKuname -a shows 2.6.26-5-generic (expected.)  sudo insmod  /lib/modules/2.6.26-5-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko insmod: error inserting ... nvidiafb.ko': -1  Unknown symbol in module23:49
CarlFKdmesg: [  767.655171] nvidiafb: Unknown symbol fb_ddc_read (and 5 more)23:50
CarlFKshould I post this to lp?23:50
ScottKCarlFK: That or ask in #ubuntu-kernel23:53
CarlFKthanks23:53
CarlFKhmm, tried modprobe, and it worked different:  module loaded  (and dependencies, so that's what might have caused the error)  but dmesg shows: [ 1188.131547] nvidiafb: unknown NV_ARCH23:56
CarlFKstill a u-k issue?23:56
directhexnvidiafb?23:57
directhexdidn't know that had worked for YEARS23:58
persiaCarlFK: Yes, although the package affected might be different23:58
HobbseeScottK: i can't give back builds that work....23:58
Hobbseei gave back the failed one23:59

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