[00:13] <MythbuntuGuest95> Hi. Does anyone know how to change the logging level of the automatically started mythbackend process?  TIA.
[00:16] <hads> You'll need to change the options in the init script.
[00:16] <hads> Which would be /etc/init.d/mythbackend or something of that nature.
[00:19] <MythbuntuGuest95> Cheers.  I will give it a try.  Thanks.
[01:06] <stevetv> hello :D .. im wondering if apple trailers are supposed to be automatically saved to my video directory?
[01:06] <stevetv> i ask because there is now a directory there called trailers
[01:06] <stevetv> ... but no trailers within it :(
[01:51] <DurtDiggler> how do I know which input this uses for live tv
[01:53] <hads> this?
[01:54] <DurtDiggler> am I supposed to create a different video source for each tv card
[01:56] <DurtDiggler> this = mythtv
[01:57] <DurtDiggler> this is the mythtv channel right
[02:01] <hads> Oh. Why yes it is.
[02:01] <croppa> I have a HP nc6220 laptop running Uuntu 8.04 and have installed Mythtv Front end
[02:02] <croppa> everything works great except the [ &] & \ for the sound volume and mute
[02:02] <croppa> Where would I look to find a repair for this
[02:03] <croppa> I think the nc6220 will make an excelent front end for beside the TV
[02:14] <DurtDiggler> why is this thing warning me that my new cards are set to start on channels that do not exist
[02:14] <DurtDiggler> what does that mean
[05:40] <bmathis> when you have a frontend only machine, do you have to mount the videos and recordings shares from the master backend or does it get it automatically?
[05:41] <hads> Recordings will stream automatically.
[05:42] <hads> You'll need to mount the mythvideo storage though
[05:42] <hads> and music if you use that.
[05:42] <bmathis> is there an easy way to mount the video storage? ive tried adding an entry into fstab but it doesnt like it
[05:43] <hads> Between PCs? You'll need to use a network file system such as NFS or Samba
[05:43] <bmathis> i got samba installed and the videos directory shared already
[05:44] <hads> I don't use samba myself so couldn't tell you what options you'll need to add to fstab. I'm sure there's plenty of pages around on Google about that though
[05:45] <bmathis> ive looked at a few... ill keep searching... thanks
[05:57] <bmathis> figured it out... I was getting an error when I tried to add the share in fstab and realized that i needed to install fusesmb. after that, the videos share now mounts fine.
[07:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning everyone!
[07:19] <MilhousePunkRock> How wouly I install mythtv 0.20 on Hardy Heron=
[07:19] <MilhousePunkRock> ?
[07:20] <hads> Why would you want to?
[07:25] <MilhousePunkRock> hads: Because my main Myth machine (backend/frontend) is still 7.04 with 0.20
[07:25] <MilhousePunkRock> And I want to use my laptop occasionally as a frontend
[07:26] <MilhousePunkRock> At the moment I have neither time to nor I am willing to upgrade the main box. It is working as expected, so I'd not mess with it...
[07:27] <hads> OK
[07:27] <hads> You'd have to build from source AFAIK
[07:28] <MilhousePunkRock> hads: So I can not use Gutsy packages?
[07:29] <MilhousePunkRock> In that case, I will rather stick to the mythbuntu 7.10 live cd...
[07:30] <hads> Unsure, I've not tried to use 0.20 on 8.04
[07:39] <gbutters> ^bot
[07:39] <gbutters> ^bot help
[07:40] <hads> !status
[07:40] <Zinn> I am alive.
[15:17] <CRXLPY> I am wanting to watch mythtv....on my TV (strange idea eh?)   I have a radeon7000ve the fglrx driver does not work with it. I can see bios and the vt's but nothing from X, I have tried dropping res to 800x600 and 640x480 @ 16bpp still nothing on the tv.
[15:20] <CRXLPY> Xorg.conf has been set to use the driver ati,radeon, and vesa. none have made a difference to the tv though some combos did not make my monitor happy. how do I see the desktop (and mythtv) on the tv? I have seen few threads on this and have tried the sugestions I did find as you see. anything I have missed?
[15:22] <sebrock> CRXLPY, what TV is it?
[15:23] <CRXLPY> sony 27" trinitron , I am using composite in (I dont have a s-video cable)
[15:24] <CRXLPY> do I have to have the res the same for both outputs once it is working?
[15:24] <CRXLPY> both meaning vga and tv-out
[15:25] <sebrock> If you can, why not use DVI or VGA?
[15:25] <sebrock> better picture and no hassle
[15:25] <CRXLPY> if I can, there you go....  tv does not have vga in
[15:26] <CRXLPY> tv controls my 5.1 sound for all my devices. I want to have the dvr feed the tv as a result
[15:33] <CRXLPY> and better picture is not neccesarily the case. I sit in front of my vgamon so I can see the blur of a tv signal on it. I have the tv in a tv location(not on the desk 16-18" away) plus it is twice the size. so yes sebrock it would be less hassle, but also MUCH less of the reason to run a mythtv dvr in the first place. If I just wanted to watch tv on the computer I would go to a tv stream site instead of build a dvrbox
[15:34] <sebrock> nah, I go with VGA and do everything from my mythbox
[15:34] <sebrock> but a dedicated box
[15:35] <CRXLPY> so you actually have myth"desktop"  not mythTV
[15:36] <sebrock> I dont really understand you, my box is totally dedicated to myth, its doesnt even look like a computer
[15:36] <sebrock> more like a DVD
[15:36] <CRXLPY> short answer to my orig question is "you dont know"
[15:36] <sebrock> as I never do S-video, no I dont
[15:37] <CRXLPY> neither do I,  you dont read well. I said I was using composite due to my lack of a s-video cable
[15:39] <sebrock> ok sorry, I find them both to be such old technology
[15:39] <sebrock> never got it working well under linux anyway
[15:40] <CRXLPY> ok on a different thread sebrock ...  have you had experience of using a pci and an agp vid card? Try real hard to stick to yes or no, please
[15:40] <CRXLPY> both together I mean
[15:40] <CRXLPY> both cards
[15:42] <sebrock> Never together
[15:42] <CRXLPY> thank you
[15:43] <CRXLPY> btw what size monitor is on your mythbox sebrock? do you sit on your couch to watch tv/vid?
[15:43] <sebrock> yes, right now is a 32" samsung LCD, but I plan on getting a bigger
[15:44] <CRXLPY> well when I win the lottery I will have similar. but since I live in the real world I am working with what I have
[15:44] <sebrock> Im a student :)
[15:45] <CRXLPY> you are either in debt or otherwise subsidized
[15:45] <sebrock> Actually I have no debts at all
[15:45] <CRXLPY> awesome, I cheer your good sense
[15:45] <sebrock> and a fairly good economy. Live in Sweden
[15:46] <sebrock> but I do work some besides studying
[15:47] <CRXLPY> well please realize not everyone has it as good as you, alot of the world cant say "I dont use it, it's old technology, why do you get something better"
[15:48] <sebrock> I didnt mean to be an ass
[15:48]  * laga still uses lots of old tech ;)
[15:48] <CRXLPY> thank you, I appreciate that
[15:48] <sebrock> And Im not here to brag about anything. I just made A point. Im sorry I cant help you more
[15:48] <sebrock> there you go, talk to laga :D
[15:48] <laga> oops ;)
[15:48] <CRXLPY> Linux is first and foremost about getting use from "old tech"
[15:49] <laga> is it?
[15:49] <sebrock> well... for me its not using Windoze and constantly having to reboot
[15:49] <CRXLPY> I am trying to say sebrock you did not help, you didnt even offer an answer to my question
[15:49] <sebrock> did a try with "MediaPortal" once
[15:49]  * sebrock shrugs
[15:50] <sebrock> You talking about the first question?
[15:50] <CRXLPY> you just spouted opinions about how I should do what you do
[15:51] <sebrock> I dont know your knowledge in the matter, I just said if you DO have VGA or DVI go that way instead
[15:51] <laga> calm down everyone?
[15:51] <sebrock> I did say Im sorry if someone took it the wrong way
[15:52] <CRXLPY> I asked how to get composite tvout to work and you said " If you can, why not use DVI or VGA?"   that was not an answer, it was an opinion
[15:53] <sebrock> it was a suggestion first and foremost
[15:54] <CRXLPY> if I was asking about composite , I wanted to know about composite, not dvi or vga.....  does that make any sense to you?
[15:55] <CRXLPY> it was an irrelavent suggestion
[15:55] <sebrock> clearly you are not here to get advice or suggestions anymore are you?
[15:55] <sebrock> no it was not, because you would have gotten better picture and no hassle setting things up
[15:55] <sebrock> gl hf
[15:55] <CRXLPY> I am only giving you "suggestions" on how to offer better answers sebrock
[15:57] <CRXLPY> so if someone is drowning in a lake, teach them to swim, do dell them they should have bought a boat
[15:57] <CRXLPY> "dont"
[15:58] <CRXLPY> "tell"
[15:58] <sebrock> If I was you I would carry on debugging my issues instead of yelling here.
[15:58] <CRXLPY> sorry for bad typrng
[15:59] <CRXLPY> ok, lets continue debugging my issue please,  I want to use composite out from my dvr box to drive my tv, not vga, not dvi
[16:00] <CRXLPY> hi laga how are you?
[16:00]  * laga blinks
[16:08] <chida> hello
[16:10] <laga> CRXLPY: have you tried using "atitvout"?
[16:11] <laga> i am using a PCI express and a PCI video card in one system, btw
[16:12] <CRXLPY> yes, am actually playing with it now.  does atitvout need fglrx?
[16:12] <laga> no
[16:12] <CRXLPY> atitvout tvout gives "vbe call failed"
[16:12] <laga> i dont think your card is still supported by fglrx
[16:13] <CRXLPY> I dont think so either
[16:13] <laga> CRXLPY: hum. did you look at xrandr?
[16:13] <laga> just run xrandr while X is running
[16:13] <laga> maybe you just need to enable the tv-out there
[16:14] <CRXLPY> xrandr shows s-video but not composite, are they the same as far as it is conserned?
[16:15] <laga> probably yes.
[16:15] <laga> it's worth a try
[16:25] <CRXLPY> well progress there laga it flickered, and xrandr --prop now shows a mode line for S-video
[16:26] <CRXLPY> no pick yet, but...... ;)
[16:26] <CRXLPY> btw I set load_detection 1
[16:31] <CRXLPY> AHA!
[16:33] <CRXLPY> after I fiddled with xrandr I decided to get grandr to help me see the options. and one click later the tv comes alive laga!!  and that is w/o shrinking mt desktop screen
[16:33] <CRXLPY> thanks for being so helpful laga
[16:35] <laga> i'm glad it worked
[16:39] <CRXLPY> now that grandr helped me get it working I will run xrandr --prop to see what needed to be changed
[16:41] <Juhser> Hello i need help. i cant install the glx-new driver for my 6600 graphic card. can somebody help me, please?
[16:45] <laga> how did you try to install it?
[16:46] <Juhser> sudo aptitude install and than with settings. but it say you do not appear the x driver please edit your xconfig
[16:46] <Juhser> and at the console Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",
[16:47] <laga> well, try the restricted manager
[16:47] <Juhser> how?
[16:48] <laga> ah, it's called jockey these days
[16:48] <laga> run jockety-gtk
[16:50] <Juhser> he could fin the packet jockety-gtk. or i make a mistake, because i new with linux
[16:50] <laga> it's a binary. just open a terminal and run sudo jockey-gtk
[16:50] <laga> or jockey-qt
[16:50] <laga> or install it
[16:52] <Juhser> jockey-gta is it
[16:52] <Juhser> the say enabled and in use
[16:53] <Juhser> jockey-gtk sorry type error
[16:54] <Juhser> or must i restart the system?
[16:54] <laga> well, what is not working?
[16:54] <laga> you make it kinda hard to help you :)
[16:55] <Juhser> when i resatrt the system it say running in low graphic mode
[16:55] <Juhser> but i can try it again, pherhaps now it work. but i dont think so
[16:56] <Juhser> and xserver setiingts say you dont using the x driver
[16:56] <Juhser> nv x server setingts it say
[16:57] <CRXLPY> well I got tv(sorta) but now the old issue of one channel full of static with a faint "echo" of the other side. I am going over what fixed it before, but as I recall it was rebooting that fixed the sound, not a linux solution (if ya know whuddameen lol)
[16:58] <laga> i've got to run now, sorry
[16:58] <Juhser> i make a reboot. iam back in few minutes... pherhaps. it work
[16:59] <Juhser> ok :( pherhaps when ypou be back
[16:59] <Juhser> you can help me
[17:02] <CRXLPY> good bye laga  thanx again
[17:04] <Juhser> no, dont work :(
[18:07] <MythbuntuGuest05> Hi guys, thought I'd give this support channel a try. I have a full system up and running (very easy setup, thanks!), with the exception of one thing related to xmltv. Mythfilldatabase runs daily, but it doesn't seem to clean out old entries, i.e. I have many days in the past in mythweb by now. Any way around this?
[18:07] <laga> no clue
[18:09] <MythbuntuGuest05> I might run a nightly mysql script to clean out the old info, but I guess that shouldn't really be necessary.
[18:09] <laga> mythtv should take care of that itself
[18:11] <MythbuntuGuest05> My thinking too, at least it did in my previous setup. Do you by any chance know whether it's mythfilldatabase or the backend that takes care of this cleanup?
[18:11] <laga> i think the housecleaning has changed in the last versions, so i don't know where it lives
[18:12] <MythbuntuGuest05> So it could be something related to the upgrade from 0.20 to 0.21 then. Ok, I'll see if I can find it in the source somewhere to get a clue on how to solve it.
[18:19] <MythbuntuGuest05> Found it in the housekeeping source. For some reason it defaults to saving 7 days of guide data in the past. It really doesn't matter that much then.
[18:19] <MythbuntuGuest05> ... since it will still clean the old data.
[18:22] <laga> great
[19:43] <KjetilK> are there 0.21.1 packages available for 8.04 somewhere?
[19:55] <laga> KjetilK: there is no 0.21.1
[19:56] <laga> you can get weekly fixes builds on www.mythbuntu.org
[19:58] <KjetilK> laga: oh, ok
[19:59] <KjetilK> yeah, that looks good, thanks
[20:06] <sebrock> Strange I could not shutdown the box from shutdown meny on desktop. I just got logged out to login page...
[20:45] <MythbuntuGuest74> im getting a grup 18 error after install i found this page http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/GrubError18
[20:46] <MythbuntuGuest74> im installing on a new drive with the old drive removed
[20:47] <MythbuntuGuest74> should i have it use all but 300 for the partition instead of letting it do what it wants?
[20:48] <MythbuntuGuest74> also curious which would be better for a backend a 1.2ghz with 3 sticks of 128 ram, or a 7hundred something ghz with 2 sticks of 128 ram?
[20:48] <MythbuntuGuest74> umm, i got that backwards, the 1.2 has 2 ram slots the 7xx has 3 ram slots
[21:04] <Tuv0k> a backend needs more than 512mb ram
[21:05] <Tuv0k> those specs sound more like a frontend
[21:05] <Tuv0k> 300 what?
[21:05] <MythbuntuGuest74> no ive been running it with 256, i have hardware encoding
[21:05] <Tuv0k> you can RUN it
[21:05] <Tuv0k> but I was thinking more than just running
[21:06] <Tuv0k> I have hardware encoding as well
[21:06] <Tuv0k> I had 2gigs on my backend
[21:06] <Tuv0k> only ran 1 job at a time
[21:06] <Tuv0k> if it is only your backend, and not used as a desktop as well
[21:06] <Tuv0k> then whatver
[21:07] <MythbuntuGuest74> yeah i havent been running any jobs and its only backend nothing else
[21:07] <Tuv0k> but I would not have my backend with 256 mb ram
[21:08] <MythbuntuGuest74> the question wasnt if you would do it, the question was which is more important ram or processer speed
[21:10] <Tuv0k> take a peek over your attitude and find the answer
[21:11] <MythbuntuGuest74> dude, im sorry
[21:11] <MythbuntuGuest74> please, could you tell me which is more important, ram or precesser speed
[21:12] <Tuv0k> dude it all depends on what your trying to do. The question is higly subjective. I'd say ram any day.
[21:12] <MythbuntuGuest74> all i want is the backend and mythweb
[21:16] <Tuv0k> http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.1
[21:21] <MythbuntuGuest74> that seems to say 256ram is plenty and under 1ghz is fine if using hardware encoding
[21:21] <MythbuntuGuest74> cool
[21:25] <laga> 256MB isn't that much.. i suggest you start with a light  weight (albeit ugly) theme like iulius
[21:25] <MythbuntuGuest74> its backend only, why should the theme matter?
[23:14] <^bot> what is the fix for the 6 day forcast which exists with this....
[23:14] <^bot> Can't locate NDFDParser.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/mythtv/mythweather/scripts/us_nws/ndfd.pl line 9.
[23:18] <laga> no clue, but if you file a bug report i'm sure we can figure it out ;)
[23:18] <laga> g'night
[23:23] <^bot> adios
[23:36] <Ohadio> hello there
[23:36] <Ohadio> anybody home?
[23:38] <Ohadio> I am using a freshly installed Mythbuntu on my HP m8330f. I am trying to use the Firewire connection with my SA8300HD... I've managed to get it to change channels, but I do not get any picture. The status line says "Signal %100 | (L__) Partial Lock, and I get a message saying "you should have gotten a channel lock already"
[23:39] <Ohadio> on the same machine I have a pci-express 1x tuner card, and i cannot get mythbuntu to see it... any help would be appreciated!