| RaverWild | hello. first time trying xubuntu - today few hours ago downloadded and burned the alternate cd. just tried installing and could not finish install - felt on "select and install software" step, percent 6%. anyone with similar problem? dont wanna try live cds for now. | 00:10 |
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| TheSheep | RandyboY: have you checked the cd for defects? there is an option for that at the beginning | 00:12 |
| RaverWild | TheSheep, guess that was for me. well havent. i was thinking same thing. | 00:14 |
| RaverWild | by the way how are the cd images compiled? per hour basis? | 00:14 |
| TheSheep | RaverWild: if it fails, make sure you burn it with the slowest possible speed -- old cd drives have sometimes trouble reading cds burned with high speeds | 00:14 |
| TheSheep | !schedule | RaverWild | 00:15 |
| ubottu | RaverWild: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases | 00:15 |
| RaverWild | TheSheep ok. what then -- reinstall from scratch? | 00:16 |
| TheSheep | RaverWild: you still have the install running? | 00:17 |
| TheSheep | RaverWild: it just stopped? | 00:17 |
| RaverWild | no. i am on the same machine -- needed to boot windows to get some help | 00:17 |
| TheSheep | RaverWild: if the cd has no defects, it might be something else | 00:18 |
| TheSheep | RaverWild: how much ram does that computer have? | 00:18 |
| RaverWild | 512mb | 00:19 |
| TheSheep | hat's plenty :) | 00:19 |
| phasegen | I've got a tough one. Live cd works well, using it right now as a matter of fact. But when I install, it won't boot into gnome, it shows the xubuntu logo with progress bar, but when it switches to the xserver, I get a blank screen, and it won't respond to anything except switching the power off. My computer is a dell inspiron laptop with a 2.4ghz processor, 512mb of RAM, and is running the intel i845 graphics chip. | 00:19 |
| TheSheep | that's | 00:19 |
| TheSheep | phasegen: tried the recovery mode? | 00:20 |
| phasegen | i got disconnected, did my question get through? | 00:35 |
| phasegen | satellite internet stinks | 00:36 |
| phasegen | i will repost my question. here it is... | 00:36 |
| phasegen | I've got a tough one. Live cd works well, using it right now as a matter of fact. But when I install, it won't boot into gnome, it shows the xubuntu logo with progress bar, but when it switches to the xserver, I get a blank screen, and it won't respond to anything except switching the power off. My computer is a dell inspiron laptop with a 2.4ghz processor, 512mb of RAM, and is running the intel i845 graphics chip. | 00:36 |
| phasegen | that's an inspiron 1100, and the cpu is a celeron | 00:37 |
| blaked | heh | 00:53 |
| NathanScrivener | anybody know how to change the icon for a launcher on the desktop? | 02:20 |
| sliverchair | another help making usb work with Ubuntu 7.10, please? | 04:51 |
| sliverchair | sorry wrong channel | 04:52 |
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| MrNaz | does xfce do mouse trails? | 06:06 |
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| neur1 | thanks | 08:48 |
| slow-motion | hi | 10:28 |
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| Bill_MI | Hi folks. Any opinions on gvfs? Does xubuntu avoid it? I'm finding gvfs in things that make no sense. | 13:20 |
| Bill_MI | For example... just getting properties of a *.desktop Link-To file... gvfs runs out to get headers. | 13:23 |
| TheSheep | Bill_MI: you could probably use gkeyfile (or was it gkay) from glib for that | 13:27 |
| TheSheep | anyways, gvfs is much more modular and lightweight than gnomevfs | 13:27 |
| Bill_MI | Hi TheSheep! We talked a few weeks ago and I really appreciate the help... | 13:27 |
| TheSheep | glad to hear that | 13:27 |
| Bill_MI | I have xubuntu-desktop installed.... | 13:28 |
| Bill_MI | ...in Ubuntu that is. It does none of this stuff. gvfs seems to be tied to Nautilus? It's rather fuzzy. | 13:29 |
| TheSheep | no, it's nautilus that's tied to gvfs | 13:29 |
| TheSheep | not the other way around, although they migth have packaged some parts together | 13:29 |
| TheSheep | conceptually, gvfs is supposed to be desktop-independent | 13:30 |
| Bill_MI | What exactly does gkeyfile do? | 13:30 |
| TheSheep | it reads text files similar to window's ini files | 13:30 |
| TheSheep | all the .desktop files have this format | 13:30 |
| Bill_MI | Yes, I noticed the strange display of .desktop file names... and heir real filename.... | 13:31 |
| Bill_MI | So it's a specialized text editor? | 13:31 |
| TheSheep | no, it's a programming library containing functions for parsing these files | 13:33 |
| Bill_MI | OK, sounds a bit beyind where I want to go. :-) | 13:33 |
| TheSheep | gvfs is a programming library for accessing files on various filesystems | 13:34 |
| TheSheep | so I assumed we are talking about libraries here | 13:34 |
| Bill_MI | Sorry, I'd like to clarify.... | 13:34 |
| Bill_MI | I have a .desktop file.... | 13:34 |
| Bill_MI | It may be on the desktop or somewhere else.... | 13:35 |
| Bill_MI | If I launch it in ubuntu-desktop, I can see (packet sniff) gvfs running out to get headers before launching Firefox. | 13:36 |
| Bill_MI | This doesn't happen in XFCE4 desktop. | 13:36 |
| Bill_MI | If I just get properties... same darn thing. | 13:36 |
| TheSheep | what do you mean by 'gvfs running out'? | 13:37 |
| Bill_MI | Now... why is a file system doing this? | 13:37 |
| TheSheep | running out? | 13:37 |
| TheSheep | you mean like milk? | 13:37 |
| Bill_MI | Wireshark packet sniffing.... web access HEAD from something identifying itself as gvfs | 13:38 |
| Bill_MI | What's that called... a browser identifying itself. | 13:38 |
| TheSheep | ah, it doeas a HEAD http request | 13:38 |
| Bill_MI | Yes. When just getting properties of a .desktop. | 13:39 |
| TheSheep | it checks whether the file exists and if it changed | 13:39 |
| Bill_MI | A web page.... ok.... doesn't that seem strange? | 13:39 |
| TheSheep | I suppose it tries to get the modification date for display this way | 13:39 |
| Bill_MI | Actually, if the site doesn't reply it sits there doing nothing for 30 &^%$ seconds! LOL | 13:40 |
| Bill_MI | When I switch to xfce4 session this all goes away. | 13:40 |
| Bill_MI | IS this Thunar vs Nautilus? | 13:41 |
| TheSheep | yes | 13:41 |
| TheSheep | thunar reads .desktop files by itself, and does no magic | 13:41 |
| Bill_MI | This seems strange... accessing a site just to edit properties of a shortcut to it. | 13:43 |
| Bill_MI | I like the sound of Thunar. Nautilus seems like it's into things I'd rather it not be. | 13:43 |
| TheSheep | i's a library for abstracting remote access to files, after all | 13:43 |
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| Bill_MI | I'm getting the idea... but it's disconcerting integrating web browsing and file management. | 13:45 |
| Bill_MI | Sounds like an invitation to exploits. | 13:46 |
| Bill_MI | Another disconnect I get is editing files on NTFS drive using gedit. | 13:48 |
| Bill_MI | I mounted in fstab... which may be the disconnect with Nautilus? | 13:49 |
| shane_ | anyone seen oddrational on lately | 13:49 |
| Bill_MI | ...and how it handles files? | 13:49 |
| Bill_MI | I'm in xfce now, I need to test it here. | 13:50 |
| TheSheep | Bill_MI: yes, ntfs is mounted using a fuse ntfs3g driver | 13:50 |
| Bill_MI | Oooops... it's a cifs mount. | 13:51 |
| TheSheep | so a network mount | 13:51 |
| Bill_MI | Yes. in fstab. | 13:51 |
| Bill_MI | I thought it was gedit mishandling the Win/unix text file line differences. | 13:52 |
| Bill_MI | Testing with Mousepad | 13:54 |
| Bill_MI | Mousepad working good.... Nautilus/gedit cannot save the file over the old one. | 13:55 |
| Bill_MI | It can. however, save-as a new filename. TRying to figure out why. | 13:55 |
| Bill_MI | I figured gvfs doesn't like something. :-) | 13:57 |
| Bill_MI | But if it mounts cifs in fstab is gvfs involved? | 13:58 |
| Bill_MI | I think I'm ready to just go xfce4. | 14:00 |
| TheSheep | no | 14:01 |
| Bill_MI | This is Ubuntu 8.04 with extra xubuntu-desktop loaded.... | 14:02 |
| TheSheep | if you mount cifs in fstab it uses samba | 14:02 |
| Bill_MI | ok, cifs seems to be like a new name for sambafs/ | 14:02 |
| Bill_MI | sambfs? | 14:03 |
| Bill_MI | smbfs! | 14:03 |
| Bill_MI | Sorry these things don't flow off my tongue^H^H^H^H^H^ fingers. :-) | 14:04 |
| Bill_MI | I just thought... maybe the backup file is the root of this problem I see. | 14:05 |
| Bill_MI | Anyway... what would happen if I uninstalled ubuntu-desktop? Would I be same as xubuntu? | 14:06 |
| TheSheep | Bill_MI: more or less, yes | 14:07 |
| Bill_MI | I like simplicity... maybe I'll evolve into SlackWare :-) | 14:08 |
| Bill_MI | I think I proved smbfs and cifs behave identically. True? | 14:11 |
| Bill_MI | Either works the same in mount or fstab. | 14:12 |
| TheSheep | yes | 14:14 |
| TheSheep | if you like simplicity, try ArchLinux some day :) | 14:14 |
| TheSheep | it's pretty cute | 14:15 |
| Bill_MI | I tried fluxbox... THAT was a little too basic. :-) What's ArchLinux standard desktop? | 14:16 |
| TheSheep | Bill_MI: I'm not sure, I always used it with xfce | 14:18 |
| TheSheep | Bill_MI: I think a lot of xfce devs use it | 14:18 |
| Bill_MI | I see the appeal of xfce... Gnome/Nautilus seems to be making things suoper complex. | 14:19 |
| TheSheep | yeah, xfce is back to win95 :) | 14:20 |
| Bill_MI | For me... NT 3.51 :-) | 14:20 |
| TheSheep | or earlier, when you still knew what directories you have on your hdd | 14:20 |
| Bill_MI | I skipped 95/98/ME entirely. | 14:20 |
| TheSheep | Bill_MI: I skipped everything after win98 | 14:21 |
| TheSheep | and I'm still skipping | 14:21 |
| Bill_MI | LOL | 14:21 |
| Bill_MI | I came up in a company that was a big player in NT. | 14:22 |
| Bill_MI | We were one of the few running NT3 on the desktop. | 14:22 |
| TheSheep | neat | 14:22 |
| TheSheep | shame the os2 never really took off | 14:23 |
| Bill_MI | Yes... I was the hardware guy among prjects with lots of programmers..... | 14:23 |
| Bill_MI | ...they did a lot in os2 | 14:23 |
| Bill_MI | I miss having experts nearby :( | 14:24 |
| TheSheep | Bill_MI: teller machines? | 14:24 |
| Bill_MI | How'd ya guess? Burroughs/Unisys. | 14:24 |
| Bill_MI | That was one, for sure. | 14:24 |
| TheSheep | Bill_MI: I think that's the only area where os2 was widespread :) | 14:24 |
| Bill_MI | All the financial systems, pretty much. | 14:25 |
| Bill_MI | I was in check handling. | 14:25 |
| Bill_MI | PHYSICAL check handling... which is why I'm no longer needed. | 14:25 |
| Bill_MI | High speed sorting. | 14:26 |
| TheSheep | wow | 14:26 |
| TheSheep | I *love* to watch these sorts of machines :) | 14:26 |
| TheSheep | they are sometimes built so cleverly | 14:26 |
| Bill_MI | We had a bloated monster doing 2600 checks/min. | 14:27 |
| Bill_MI | The workhorse was 2000 | 14:27 |
| TheSheep | we should probably go to xubuntu-offtopic, you know? | 14:27 |
| Bill_MI | Sure, I'll test this new IRC client. | 14:28 |
| shane_ | how do i install ndiswrapper in xubu hardy 8.04 | 14:58 |
| TheSheep | hmm... there should be a howto | 14:58 |
| TheSheep | !wifi | 14:58 |
| ubottu | Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 14:58 |
| hansengel | Hi, my computer just started up and connected to the wrong access point in my wifi network.. how can I force it to go to the other one? | 15:07 |
| TheSheep | hansengel: click on the network icon and select other access point | 15:07 |
| hansengel | only my network's SSID is on there - no access points | 15:08 |
| TheSheep | hansengel: you can select 'connect to other network' and enter ssid manually | 15:10 |
| hansengel | I'm going to try changing to manual instead of roaming | 15:10 |
| hansengel | oh, I think I got it - thanks | 15:11 |
| shane_ | need help i installed driver for wireless network card in ndiswraper and the ran modprobe ndiswrapper and when i restarted i got the blue lockup screen HELP | 15:24 |
| shane_ | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/DWL-G510 | 15:36 |
| shane_ | these are the instructions i followed if anyone can help | 15:37 |
| TheSheep | shane_: blue screen? | 15:38 |
| TheSheep | shane_: when exactly does it appear? | 15:38 |
| shane_ | after sighn in | 15:38 |
| shane_ | i need to do ctrl alt f2 and run a comand to remove ndis from modprobe but i cant fig it out | 15:39 |
| TheSheep | shane_: what if you press 'alt+ctrl+backspace' on the blue screen and try to log in again? | 15:40 |
| shane_ | 1 sec will try | 15:40 |
| shane_ | i get a black screen and it does a few things gives ok's and stops on line 4 | 15:42 |
| shane_ | running local boot scripts is the last line it shows and the it just sitts | 15:42 |
| shane_ | ok i know whats wrong i just dont know how to fix it was when i added it to /etc/modules i used gedit to add | 15:45 |
| shane_ | iv had this prob before on kubuntu | 15:45 |
| TheSheep | shane_: you can edit files with 'nano' in the command line | 15:46 |
| TheSheep | shane_: e.g. nano /etc/modules | 15:46 |
| shane_ | ok i removed it from etc now do i need to save or just restart | 15:49 |
| TheSheep | save with ctrl+x | 15:49 |
| shane_ | ok im getting permision denied when i try and save | 15:53 |
| TheSheep | shane_: run nano with sudo before it | 15:55 |
| shane_ | k | 15:56 |
| TheSheep | shane_: sudo nano /etc/modules | 15:56 |
| TheSheep | it will ask for password | 15:56 |
| shane_ | sudo doesnt work it wont do a thing i ran (sudo nano /etc/modules and it just goes to fresh blank line | 15:59 |
| TheSheep | shane_: this is weird, it should run nano as root | 16:08 |
| shane_ | thats what i thought also | 16:08 |
| TheSheep | that's the first user? | 16:09 |
| shane_ | yah its the only user | 16:09 |
| TheSheep | does 'sudo -s' work? | 16:10 |
| shane_ | im on the etc page now,i use ctrl k to remove ndiswrapper and the use ctrl x to save and it gives me a line of file name to right; /etc/modules | 16:11 |
| shane_ | sudo -s doesnt work either | 16:13 |
| robf_ | meh, ok I got xubuntu on this laptop, and iwconfig shows my wireless card, but I can't figure out how to connect to my wireless network =\ | 16:16 |
| TheSheep | robf_: click on the network icon next to the clock | 16:23 |
| TheSheep | robf_: and select the network you want to connect to | 16:23 |
| robf_ | yeah, done and done | 16:23 |
| robf_ | no networks appear | 16:23 |
| robf_ | but I mean I'm sitting right next to it, its there, my blackberry is connected, so Its gotta be the laptops issue. | 16:24 |
| robf_ | not sure what the issue is though =\ | 16:26 |
| shane_ | do you have the right driver for ur card | 16:26 |
| robf_ | not sure | 16:26 |
| shane_ | im in the same boat right now | 16:27 |
| robf_ | I figured it showing up in iwconfig was showing proper.. | 16:27 |
| shane_ | i added the right driver and now im in a stall | 16:27 |
| robf_ | what card I got a bcm4318 | 16:27 |
| robf_ | but it appears it is the driver there | 16:29 |
| robf_ | lsmod shows b43 | 16:29 |
| robf_ | which i assume(tm) is b[cm]43[18] | 16:30 |
| shane_ | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy | 16:30 |
| shane_ | try readin this it might be ur fix | 16:30 |
| robf_ | bleh | 16:31 |
| robf_ | stupid prop firmware | 16:31 |
| shane_ | lol i got the dink g510 and its a prob one also | 16:31 |
| robf_ | how can I just grab the packs | 16:31 |
| robf_ | they're debs right? | 16:32 |
| robf_ | cos I have no wired network for this | 16:32 |
| shane_ | that link gives u the link for the packs | 16:32 |
| robf_ | it gives me link to repos | 16:32 |
| robf_ | not sure how to access those manually ;p | 16:32 |
| shane_ | im not sure if u can"sudo apt-get them | 16:32 |
| robf_ | well I can't, unless I've network | 16:32 |
| robf_ | which I have none without wireless.. | 16:32 |
| shane_ | ok well the one ur on now download and place on a mem stick and put in lap that way | 16:33 |
| shane_ | or plug in ur lan on lap | 16:33 |
| robf_ | well yeah | 16:33 |
| shane_ | thats what im stuck doin right now untill i get all the apps i need to solve my prob | 16:34 |
| robf_ | I know, but... it's just a list of repos, I dunno oh dur | 16:34 |
| robf_ | nvm | 16:34 |
| robf_ | they made their links black | 16:34 |
| robf_ | so I had no idea I could click'm heh | 16:34 |
| shane_ | kk im off for a bit to work my other | 16:35 |
| maxrocks_1 | Hello people. | 17:31 |
| maxrocks_1 | So I got my computer hardware unfucked and upgraded, but it appears that in doing that, I have buttfucked my system :) | 17:31 |
| maxrocks_1 | Ergo, I am running off of the CD, and I want to know how to view my drives and get a few files off of them. | 17:31 |
| maxrocks_1 | w00t. | 17:31 |
| maxrocks_1 | Hello comrades. | 17:35 |
| maxrocks_1 | I am running Xubuntu from the CD and want to know how I can see my drives and just get a few files off of them before I re-do my system. | 17:36 |
| wols | df | 17:41 |
| wols | #what kind of drives? | 17:41 |
| wols | just use a any filemanager | 17:41 |
| wols | possibly mount the disks first if needed | 17:42 |
| LetsGo67 | In (gtk-)recordmydesktop, I am unable to record any sound. Can someone help me fix this issue, please? | 20:37 |
| JinKazama | hi all ! :) how to make a shortcut from my keyboard ti run some application ? For example , with Ctrl+Alt+M I want to run Thunderbird Mail. | 20:44 |
| vinnl | JinKazama, in the Settings Manager, click Keyboard | 20:45 |
| vinnl | Then check the Shortcuts tab | 20:45 |
| JinKazama | I adde тхе цомманд бут хов то адд тхе схорцут ? | 20:50 |
| JinKazama | ops... sorry | 20:50 |
| JinKazama | I add the command but how to add the shortcyt? | 20:50 |
| vinnl | JinKazama, a dialog pops up after you've added the command, you can then press the desired keys | 20:52 |
| JinKazama | o. yes. done :) thank you vinnl :) | 20:53 |
| vinnl | No problem JinKazama :) | 20:53 |
| JinKazama | ok , :) byt what is the command do show the desktop? to minimalize all open window ? | 21:09 |
| JinKazama | :) | 21:09 |
| TheSheep | you can set it in window manager settings | 21:09 |
| TheSheep | that's not a command, it's an internal shortcut | 21:09 |
| TheSheep | by default alt+ctrl+d | 21:10 |
| JinKazama | oh yes :) thank you TheSheep :) | 21:10 |
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| slow-motion | n8 | 21:46 |
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