[01:06] <krijali> I'll send this question out again to see if anyone would like to take a crack at it. I was told to come here to ask a prevu related question although I'm running Hardy (on PPC arch - so yeah it's strictly unofficial, but yeah). When I attempt to run 'sudo -E prevu-init' I get an error back (after a few lines) saying the following: "Failure trying to run: chroot /var/cache/prevu/builds/8156/. mount -t proc proc /proc (then ) pbuilder:
[01:06] <krijali> debootstrap failed
[01:13] <Hobbsee> krijali: ask jdong - he wrote it.
[01:13] <Hobbsee> !info prevu
[01:13] <ubottu> prevu (source: prevu): an Automatic backporter script. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.4.6-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 7 kB, installed size 60 kB
[01:13] <Hobbsee> it does exist in the repos.  wow.
[01:14] <krijali> will do, thank you! - or atleast I'll submit it as a possible bug
[02:09] <Quentusrex> Hello
[02:09] <Quentusrex> How can I find out if Ibex will include the new Intel graphics 2.4.0 driver?
[03:58] <kallu> 30 min back intrepid updated + upgraded .. kdm and kde are not working .. any suggestions
[04:02] <RAOF> kallu: Not without any sort of information, no.
[04:02] <RAOF> !doesntwork | kallu
[04:02] <ubottu> kallu: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[04:03] <RAOF> Also, /var/log/Xorg.0.log might be interesting.  But that'll depend on your previous answers :)
[04:05] <kallu> kdm not starting(getting busy mouse) .. if used gdm and trying to start kde .. not even kde splash is appearing
[06:18] <skreechmiester> !tab
[06:18] <ubottu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[07:49] <Raas|wtf> im a windows user...
[07:49] <Raas|wtf> looking at kubuntu, any recommendations for/against?
[08:02] <bazhang> Raas|wtf, please change your nick: /nick <newnickname>
[08:04] <bazhang> Raas|wtf, this is not a chat channel; you can read reviews of kubuntu ubuntu etc linked at www.distrowatch.com
[08:06] <Raas|wtf> change my nick? wtf
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[11:06] <kallu> today's kde(4.1) update breaks the system .. no kde application is starting
[11:07] <exco> aloah
[11:14] <havocstorm> >	Hey, have you guys seen the intrepid ibex mockups?
[11:14] <havocstorm> http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910
[12:04] <SwedeMike> looking at <http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_x4500hd&num=2> it seems xorg 7.4/mesa7.1/xf86-video-intel 2.4.0 is needed to drive a centrino 2 machine (thinking of the lenovo x200). Does anyone know if these will make it into 8.10 ?
[12:09] <SwedeMike> or, rather, I'm interesting in what alpha/beta version they might be included
[12:38] <BUGabundo> what's up with /libwbclient0_2%3a3.2.0-4ubuntu3_amd64.deb  and likewise?
[12:40] <Hobbsee> it exists?
[12:41] <Hobbsee> and why are you posting the same thing in multiple channels?
[13:13] <BUGabundo> sorry Hobbsee
[13:14] <BUGabundo> not every one is in the same #s
[13:14] <BUGabundo> I've been hit by that prob for a few days now
[13:14] <Hobbsee> no, they aren't but you're effectively asking 2+ different people to give you the same answer, which is a waste of effort.
[13:15] <BUGabundo> Hobbsee: see private IM
[13:15] <BUGabundo> for more detail
[13:22] <cyphase> is anyone running intrepid in a VM?
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[13:33] <_ZeuZ_> Hi, whenever I try to get my laptop display brightness down, I get the following output: No output has backlight property
[13:34] <BUGabundo> _ZeuZ_: I guess you are one for the schema problem
[13:34] <BUGabundo> on gconf-editor
[13:35] <_ZeuZ_> BUGabundo, so I can manage to fix it from gconf-editor?
[13:35] <BUGabundo> I don't know
[13:35] <BUGabundo> I'm still waiting for my power schema to get fix too
[13:36] <_ZeuZ_> lol, I guess I can manage to fix it importing the Debian package, as with it it works
[13:37] <BUGabundo> don't know
[13:37] <BUGabundo> if you do, let me know
[13:37] <BUGabundo> do you have a LP bug for it?
[13:37] <_ZeuZ_> not yet...
[13:38] <BUGabundo> let me see if I can find mine
[13:38] <_ZeuZ_> still I'm trying to find another configuration editor, as the problem with editing schemes seems to be from gconf-editor
[13:39] <BUGabundo> _ZeuZ_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/242665
[13:39] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 242665 in gnome-power-manager "gnome-power-manager wont keep the state ( This key as no schema )" [Undecided,New]
[13:45] <_ZeuZ_> My problem is that gconf doesn't allow me to edit the configuration schemes
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[13:59] <lukehasnoname> now running no-internet upgrade from Hardy to Alpha 2
[13:59] <lukehasnoname> er alpha3
[13:59] <Pici> good luck
[14:00] <lukehasnoname> thanks
[14:01] <exco> is the ati restricted driver (fglrx) already working with Xserver 8.4?
[14:01] <Pici> Not on my system, it still complains about dri2.
[14:02] <exco> thanks - I thought I had something wrong because there are so little complaints about it on ubuntuforums
[14:20] <lukehasnoname> soooooo, trying to boot intrepid, my computer started beeping OBNOXIOUSLY LOUDLY and the whole office looked over at me
[14:20] <Pici> Mine made screetching noises.
[14:20] <lukehasnoname> basically ya
[14:20] <Hobbsee> blacklist the pc speaker.
[14:21] <lukehasnoname> how
[14:21] <Pici> its snd_pcsp iirc.
[14:23] <Hobbsee> edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[14:23] <Hobbsee> Pici: yeah, that sounds right
[14:28] <lukehasnoname> I don't know how to edit that withour booting the OS (I don't have a live disc, and I'm at work so I don't want that to happen again
[14:29] <lukehasnoname> I might just wait til lunch and take it somewhere
[14:32] <oxigen> install it in the elevator
[14:32] <Hobbsee> recovery mode?
[14:33] <lukehasnoname> I don't know if it will beep in recovery mode... I don't want to deal with that again
[14:33] <lukehasnoname> seriously I was fumbling to pull out the battery on my laptop to stop that noice
[14:33] <lukehasnoname> noise
[14:34] <oxigen> tell them that's just a part of the installing process
[14:35] <Pici> Its a sound test ;P
[14:36] <Pici> If its a laptop, take it out of the office for a few minutes
[14:37] <oxigen> yes, on the street, do you have wifi?
[14:37] <lukehasnoname> there is no wifi at this complex
[14:38] <lukehasnoname> and I technically have work to do...
[14:38] <lukehasnoname> heh
[14:38] <oxigen> ok, then use some long cable
[14:40] <exco> or just tell everyone else to leave
[14:41] <lukehasnoname> meh, I'll wait.
[14:41] <lukehasnoname> anyway, I can't wait for Intrepid
[14:43] <lukehasnoname> It might be on the wiki, but are there any goals set for a less buggy compiz experience?
[14:45] <Pici> lukehasnoname: I dont see it on a quick glance, but check here: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid
[15:36] <Exilant> Any errors today or is it a good time to dist-upgrade?
[15:42] <kallu> Exilant, there are some problems with kde 4.1
[15:44] <AlmightyCthulhu> Kdesu crashes, Adept crashes no matter what
[15:44] <AlmightyCthulhu> and restricted driver manager doesn't work at all
[15:44] <Exilant> ok, almost never use those anyway
[15:46] <AlmightyCthulhu> hah, finally
[15:46] <AlmightyCthulhu> update that kills off the pc speaker module
[15:47] <Exilant> nice :)
[15:48]  * AlmightyCthulhu has always hated the metapackages for desktops idea
[15:49] <lukehasnoname> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[15:49] <AlmightyCthulhu> there should be no need for a separate Kubuntu or Xubuntu really, just sections where you can remove or install packages for each desktop
[15:50] <AlmightyCthulhu> as it is, you really have no choice of what is on the system
[15:50] <Exilant> yes
[15:50] <AlmightyCthulhu> just a one size fits all image you better hope you have a fast net connection with which to fix
[15:50] <Exilant> well, you could remove the metapackages
[15:50] <LSD|Ninja> AlmightyCthulhu: If you want choice, run something else
[15:50] <Exilant> but that + updates->disaster
[15:51] <AlmightyCthulhu> removing the metapackage doesn't help things
[15:51] <AlmightyCthulhu> and it brings in all kinds of dependency nightmares
[15:51] <Exilant> yeah
[15:51] <AlmightyCthulhu> I always thought it was this gross/horrible hack
[15:51] <AlmightyCthulhu> to make the Live CD defaults work
[15:52] <Exilant> yes
[15:52] <AlmightyCthulhu> I have yet to see another system tell you that removing Firefox/Gecko will uninstall half your system
[15:52] <Exilant> i'd like to deinstall OOo for example, but it being in kubuntu-desktop makes that just to maintenance-intensive
[16:14] <Exilant> What is the satus of ati drivers in ibex or in general? is the opensource ati/radeon to be preferred, or the fglrx?
[16:56] <fde> Exilant: I'm fairly sure fglrx still doesn't support xserver 1.5 which is what ibex is using, so your choices are radeon or radeonhd
[16:56] <Exilant> ah, ok thanks
[16:57] <Exilant> is there any new way of setting up radeon or is it the same xorg.conf stuff as before?
[16:57] <fde> Exilant: same
[16:58] <Exilant> ok, thank you
[17:03] <cypherdelic> Third party repos are quite more faster available than i remember in the past ubuntu releases. I firstly updated from hardy to intrepid with only the ubuntu repositories. Now i found 60% of my third partys available in alpha 3 already, damn. Flash-Mozilla works, even if it needed some manual "nspluginwrapper -u *"'s because the script tries nspluginwrapper -n" (what may '-n' be? XD, but thats a third party problem) its quite stable at
[17:03] <cypherdelic> the moment, just some uncritical things are broken
[17:14] <cypherdelic> hm mouse scroll doesnt work in brightness screenlet
[17:17] <BUGabundo_work> cypherdelic: it was working for me
[17:17] <BUGabundo_work> let me check when I get upstairs
[17:22] <BUGabundo_work> cypherdelic: you are right! it stop working in the last few days
[17:22] <BUGabundo_work> cypherdelic: do you have a LP ticket for it yet?
[17:22] <cypherdelic> no could you please take it, i will second it
[17:23] <BUGabundo_work> ok
[17:23] <cypherdelic> im currently in a gimp session :D
[17:23] <BUGabundo_work> ok
[17:26] <BUGabundo_work> cypherdelic: do you have any idea of the package?!?!
[17:26] <BUGabundo_work> cypherdelic: I'm trying to complete bug #200974 but it misses the package
[17:26] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 200974 in gnome-power-manager "Power Manager Brightness Applet 2.21.92 bug" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200974
[17:27] <cypherdelic> i dont know either if my package is a ubuntu one, thats why, too
[17:29] <BUGabundo_work> cypherdelic: please subscribe to it, and fill with your details
[17:30] <BUGabundo_work> cypherdelic: bug #200974
[17:30] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 200974 in gnome-power-manager "Power Manager Brightness Applet bug" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/200974
[17:31] <cypherdelic> click on +?? i was talking about mouse scroll in "screenlets"!-Brightness-applet, but that one should be similar the the gnome-keybinding issues
[17:32] <BUGabundo_work> me too
[17:32] <BUGabundo_work> I just re-used a similar ticket
[17:32] <BUGabundo_work> please read my comment
[17:32] <cypherdelic> where is this applet lol
[17:32] <BUGabundo_work> you can open/exampd it and see a + and a - minus
[17:33] <cypherdelic> command not found
[17:34] <BUGabundo_work> hu,??
[17:34] <cypherdelic> can you please describe where i have to look for brightness in gnome-power-manager
[17:35] <cypherdelic> that is your bugfile package name
[17:36] <cypherdelic> i regulate brightness with my lcd panel osd ;))
[17:36] <BUGabundo_work> I think its gnome-power-manager
[17:36] <BUGabundo_work> I do it via keyboard
[17:36] <BUGabundo_work>  on my laptop
[17:36] <BUGabundo_work> and with the mouse scroll over that applet
[17:36] <cypherdelic> if i need software brightness, that i use nvidia-settings, quite more comfortable than + - alpha and thats it
[17:37] <cypherdelic> the screelets applet yes
[17:37] <cypherdelic> but thats a bug in screenlets applet
[17:37] <BUGabundo_work> what is screenlets !?!?!?
[17:37] <cypherdelic> do you have a screenlets-intrepid version repo??
[17:37] <BUGabundo_work> I just have an applet on the top bar
[17:37] <cypherdelic> i dont have, so im glad it dont f*** up any other thing :D
[17:38] <cypherdelic> find out the name of that applet
[17:38] <BUGabundo_work> Power Manager Brightness Applet 2.23.1
[17:38] <BUGabundo_work> as I mention on my LP comment
[17:38] <cypherdelic> hmm
[17:39] <cypherdelic> oh i might have an idea what do you mean
[17:39] <cypherdelic> that one in gnome-panel?
[17:39] <BUGabundo_work> I would install screenlets (just saw them on synaptic)
[17:40] <BUGabundo_work> but I'm being affected by a dependcy problem on samba
[17:40] <cypherdelic> hm intrepid
[17:40] <cypherdelic> im confused about my package status
[17:40] <BUGabundo_work> and can't install or remove ANYTHING
[17:40] <BUGabundo_work> why?
[17:40] <cypherdelic> sudo dpkg remove --force
[17:40] <cypherdelic> man dkpg
[17:43] <BUGabundo_work> --force aint working either
[17:45] <cypherdelic> its "sud dpkg samba --purge --force-all" i take no guarantee
[17:45] <cypherdelic> and then install it via synaptic again
[17:46] <cypherdelic> may i can concentrate on gimp please, call center workers got a helper-syndrome
[17:46] <BUGabundo_work> let me try again
[17:46] <BUGabundo_work> ok
[17:46] <BUGabundo_work> bye bye
[18:05] <cypherdelic> so im back smart sharpening pluzgin takes ugly long
[18:05] <cypherdelic> even on a high end processor
[18:06] <cypherdelic> BUGabundo does those samba force purge worked
[18:06] <cypherdelic> ?
[18:06] <BUGabundo> humm
[18:06] <BUGabundo> it cleared a bit
[18:06] <BUGabundo> thanks
[18:06] <BUGabundo> but still in a dependicy hell hole
[18:07] <cypherdelic> hmm
[18:08] <BUGabundo> cypherdelic: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/34115/
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[18:12] <lukehasnoname> so in recovery mode I was able to boot into root console without any passowrd
[18:13] <BUGabundo> good for you lukehasnoname
[18:14] <lukehasnoname> I mean,
[18:14] <BUGabundo> I always put a pass on my root user so that doesn't happen
[18:14] <lukehasnoname> is that supposed to happen?
[18:14] <BUGabundo> yep
[18:14] <BUGabundo> its a RECOVERY console
[18:14] <lukehasnoname> tru
[18:15] <BUGabundo> but feel free to do a
[18:15] <BUGabundo> sudo passwd
[18:15] <BUGabundo> and set a strong pass on root
[18:15] <lukehasnoname> right
[18:15] <BUGabundo> and that won't happen again
[18:16] <cypherdelic> lukehasnoname: can you quickguide me on how to tdo that?
[18:16] <cypherdelic> BUGabundo: check your repositories
[18:17] <BUGabundo> lukehasnoname:  sudo passwd
[18:17] <cypherdelic> loooooool
[18:17] <BUGabundo> cypherdelic: why? they look fine and I already did an apt-get clean
[18:17] <cypherdelic> BUgabundooh weill dist-upgrade
[18:17] <cypherdelic> why did ya doo that
[18:17] <cypherdelic> its alpha 3 X)
[18:17] <BUGabundo> I know
[18:17] <BUGabundo> I'm here even before alpha 1
[18:17] <cypherdelic> thats a bad thing
[18:17] <BUGabundo> trying to get my wifi to work
[18:18] <BUGabundo> no luck until now
[18:18] <BUGabundo_work> cypherdelic: matir@matir.pt
[18:18] <BUGabundo_work> cypherdelic: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/230844
[18:18] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 230844 in linux "kill switch on with intel wifi 4965" [Undecided,New]
[18:18] <BUGabundo_work> wrong copy paste
[18:19] <lukehasnoname> Did the logout screen change in Intrepid?
[18:20] <BUGabundo_work> yep
[18:20] <cypherdelic> and confuzius says to me "what do i say to you?"
[18:20] <BUGabundo_work> went to the upstream BASIC logout
[18:20] <lukehasnoname> boo urns
[18:20] <BUGabundo_work> but devs are working on it
[18:20] <cypherdelic> dist-upgrade is of course right
[18:20] <lukehasnoname> BOO URNS
[18:21] <lukehasnoname> BUGabundo_work: so it's going to go back to Ubuntu-style as final approaches?
[18:21] <cypherdelic> <--x=}
[18:21] <BUGabundo_work> cypherdelic: reboot, so dbus can restart
[18:21] <cypherdelic> nono i did that at the beginning for some days, i tried again, nothing to install ;) mine is fine :D
[18:21] <BUGabundo_work> lukehasnoname: I'll have to check my mailinglist archuive...
[18:22] <lukehasnoname> what mailing list?
[18:22] <BUGabundo_work> but since kmail won't start, I'm going to take longer to get that info for you
[18:22] <lukehasnoname> *which one
[18:22] <BUGabundo_work> desktop if not mistaken
[18:25] <BUGabundo_work> lukehasnoname: can't find it nowhere lol
[18:26] <lukehasnoname> it's cool
[18:26] <cypherdelic> cypher@HackFleisch:~$ /usr/lib/gnome-session/helpers/gnome-login-sound
[18:26] <cypherdelic> (gnome-login-sound:29807): Gnome-WARNING **: error caching sample <-1>!
[18:27] <cypherdelic> can somebody approof?
[18:27] <lukehasnoname> Is there a way to blacklist updates to certain packages permanently?
[18:27] <lukehasnoname> like evolution-*, linux-image-*, etc., where it will never ask me to do such updates again
[18:28] <BUGabundo_work> humm
[18:28] <BUGabundo_work> you can pin back
[18:28] <BUGabundo_work> or force a certain version on synaptic
[18:29] <lukehasnoname> might be what I want
[18:30] <BUGabundo_work> let me see were you put that for apt to pin back
[18:30] <lukehasnoname> I don't want a new kernel every few days, and I don't want to waste bandwidth on updates I don't need
[18:31] <BUGabundo_work> bingo
[18:32] <BUGabundo_work> lukehasnoname: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50un....
[18:36] <cypherdelic> Does anyone know how do I load nvidia-settings -l before xserver to make it rendered with antialiasing
[18:37] <lukehasnoname> Anyone else getting the alternate install hanging at 6%
[18:38] <lukehasnoname> nvmd it just sat on 6% for a while then jumped to 29%
[18:39] <tanath> anyone know why mouse scrolling broke?
[18:40] <tanath> worked fine on hardy, but after upgrade my mouse stopped working right. now it scrolls horizontally if available, but not vertically
[18:41] <tanath> unless my mouse cursor is over the scroll bar
[18:45] <BUGabundo_work> tanath: my touchpad didn't scroll either for a few days
[18:45] <BUGabundo_work> but today its woking again
[18:46] <tanath> hm. you update today?
[18:46] <BUGabundo_work> mouse scroll was working fine the all time
[18:46] <BUGabundo_work> the regular updates.. yes
[18:47] <tanath> well i when i upgraded, my thumb buttons stopped working. then when that got fixed, the scroll wheel stopped working
[18:52] <lukehasnoname> so after my upgrade from hardy sucked, I just did a fresh install
[18:52] <lukehasnoname> no internet, so kinda sucks, but so far it seem stable enough
[18:57] <BUGabundo_work> lukehasnoname: I guess I'll have to do a clean install by the time beta comes out
[18:57] <BUGabundo_work> I only hope I manage to get my wifi working until then
[19:12] <clusty> hey
[19:12] <clusty> is there something funny going on with compiz?
[19:12] <clusty> the transparencies are all screwy
[19:13] <crdlb> "screwy"?
[19:13] <clusty> as if i had no 3d accel
[19:13] <clusty> normally one seens the window behibnd the terminal
[19:13] <clusty> now i always see the desktop
[19:14] <crdlb> that's your definition of "screwy" ?
[19:14] <crdlb> that happens when you open gnome-terminal while no compositing manager is running
[19:14] <crdlb> currently, it cannot switch transparency modes while running
[19:15] <clusty> ohhh damn.
[19:15] <clusty> makes sense :D
[19:15] <clusty> sorry for the noobish bother :D
[19:15] <crdlb> it's ok; it's very broken :)
[19:16] <clusty> considering what fixed and what broke i am still not regretting going alpha
[19:16] <clusty> f-spot finally stopped crashing
[19:16] <clusty> and close to rock solid suspends
[19:16] <clusty> but no more keyboard shortcuts with compiz and no more bluetooth mouse :D
[19:39] <dj_oko> hello
[19:39] <dj_oko> could anybody tell me will new Ubuntu include PackageKit?
[19:39] <dj_oko> it seems to be "suggested"
[19:43] <james_w> dj_oko: it's very likely
[19:43] <james_w> however the gui tools will not be installed by default
[19:44] <dj_oko> h
[19:45] <dj_oko> i see :)
[19:59] <nemo> http://www.debianhelp.org/node/5156 - this post appears to suggest the patches I need for my CPU will be in 2.6.22
[19:59] <nemo> is that kernel version a target for "Ibex" ?
[20:12] <joaopinto> nemo, 2.6.24
[20:12] <nemo> coool
[20:14] <lukehasnoname> ?
[20:14] <lukehasnoname> 2.6.26 is the kernel for 8.10
[20:38] <nemo> waitasec. yeah. you're right
[20:38] <nemo> WTH.
[20:38] <nemo> hm. back to squre one then
[20:39] <nemo> (hardy is indeed on .24)
[20:41] <nemo> found correct but
[20:41] <nemo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/235119
[20:41] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 235119 in linux "Coretemp outdated / can't show 45nm core temps" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[20:41] <nemo> indeed, is outdated in .24 as well
[21:57] <lukehasnoname> Reinstalling Hardy
[21:57] <lukehasnoname> man, running an alpha really makes you appreciate the stable release
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[22:14] <kallu> I was unable to download the plasmoids through plasmoid panel .. The wizard is showing the plasmoids available in kde-look.org but unable to install them.
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[23:16] <happytiger>  I cant move my kde4 widgets using nvidia-glx driver but I can if I use standard xorg setting after having run dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[23:17] <happytiger> is there a workaround?