/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/08/04/#ubuntu-ops.txt

FlannelBut just for your dist?00:00
PiciIts a cli interface to http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/madison.cgi00:00
Picifor all dists00:00
FlannelHmmm.00:01
PiciIts quite handy.00:01
FlannelBut apt-file still onyl works for what you have in your repos, right?00:01
PiciYeah.00:01
Flannelyeah.  Thats why I need to a) write a script to do it or b) use p.u.c00:01
Flannelsince, helping people on Hardy is difficult without package information for hardy00:01
PiciI'm looking forward to seeing the launchpad api, that will be quite handy for many things.00:02
soundrayShould the fixres factoid be updated? dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't work in hardy like it used to.00:09
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MyrttiI can haz more sleep?00:31
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Dave2hm, sleep, that's an idea.00:42
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Hobbseei worry about people, sometimes.02:10
FlannelHobbsee: who are you worried about this time?02:12
HobbseeFlannel: the guy who just turned up in -meeting.02:12
Flannelis there a meeting going on right now?02:13
Hobbseenope02:18
Hobbseehe was looking for support, couldn't find the people.02:18
MermaidManevil02:48
FlannelMermaidMan: How can we help you?02:49
MermaidManEVIL02:49
bazhangMermaidMan, this is not a support channel; if you have no business here please part02:50
MermaidMando you know where barnacle boy boy is?02:50
MermaidManok bye02:50
Flannelthat was random.02:51
Picivery02:55
FlannelHes not even banned anywhere that I can see.02:55
bazhangneo-omega is not responding to PM to change his exit message02:58
FlannelHe's probably away02:58
bazhangif gardar can be banned for his afk this seems well within that purview02:59
Flannelgardar is forwarded here because even after repeated talkings-to where he says he'd fix it he has yet to fix it.02:59
FlannelI got tired of removing him from #ubuntu every few days.03:00
bazhangthat is not so clearly offensive though03:00
FlannelNo, but its habitual.  neo-omega is away, when he returns, see what he does.03:00
bazhangno need to wait imo.03:01
Flannelbazhang: You certainly don't need my permission to do something.  But I think its premature.03:01
Hobbseewell, she who cannot be named is alive.05:05
Hobbseeor has been replaced by a bot, who acts in similar ways.05:05
Picihas it become self aware?05:07
Hobbseeself aware?05:07
nickrud   ot!  ;P05:07
* nickrud gets out shield05:08
bazhangsudo apt-get install turing-test05:08
* nickrud looks behind himself for the stick05:08
Picimeh, someones spamming, but they're not in the channel, fyi05:15
PiciI mean, pm spam.05:15
nickrudI never see that pm spams, I think they check05:16
Picime either.05:16
* Hobbsee attacks nickrud with the stick, now that he's put his guard down.05:17
nickruddamn!05:17
nickrudI pride myself on my awareness, and to be got by a op as described by smallfoot :(05:18
* nickrud really runs away now05:19
Hobbseehaha05:28
Hobbseewhat, you've got boobs too?05:29
Hobbseethat's a bit of a scary thought :P05:29
Flannelnickrud: Did you expect anything less from purplestar?05:29
nickrudthe nick was familiar, but I couldn't put it context05:30
nickrudnah, Hobbsee I'm an old neanderthal :)05:30
ajmitchhow odd05:31
meoblast001what is this05:32
meoblast001some super highway of ubuntu administration?05:32
Flannelmeoblast001: Do you know what the code of conduct is?05:33
meoblast001Flannel: im sorry05:33
motaclassy move, Flannel. Kudos05:33
meoblast001sorry dad05:33
meoblast001i wont do it agai05:33
meoblast001n05:33
Flannelmota: No problem.  We can't control all aspects of our users.05:34
motaFlannel: sigh, how true. Of any community05:34
meoblast001starting to sound like windows05:35
meoblast001"cant control all aspecs of our users.... we gotta fix that"05:35
Flannelmeoblast001: We're not trying to fix anything.  But we'd appreciate it if you didn't cause trouble for people.  Since that's not what Ubuntu is about.05:35
motaAnyway, yah. Same goes for the ##windows channel, I guess, as it hosts the this-vs-that debate every single day, without kicking people unless they become jerks about it.05:35
meoblast001im sorry05:36
Yud_Zrocso uh whats this channel about05:36
meoblast001its quiet in here05:36
meoblast001you just invaded my "talking to"05:36
meoblast001where i am being punnished05:36
Yud_Zrocoh well05:36
meoblast001i dont think father Flannel would be that happy05:36
Yud_Zroc?05:36
* Yud_Zroc licks the walls05:36
meoblast001they are white and tastey05:37
nickrudYud_Zroc this is the 'conflict resolution' channel.05:37
Yud_Zrocah ok05:37
nickrudYud_Zroc please check the /topic05:37
meoblast001Flannel: so anyways........ i was doing something stpuid05:37
* Yud_Zroc checks05:37
meoblast001and i was doing that for my own stupid fun05:37
meoblast001not for the bettering of the Ubuntu community05:37
meoblast001and im sorry05:37
meoblast001when i came in here05:37
meoblast001i pictured this place as a small room05:37
meoblast001white room05:37
meoblast001blank05:37
meoblast001where everything you say echos05:38
motaCheers!05:38
Yud_Zrocum...so this is like the timeout corner05:38
FlannelYud_Zroc: no, this is juts a place to talk without an audicence.05:39
FlannelYud_Zroc: go read the code of conduct, as I suspect you haven't, and please dont cause trouble for ##windows in the future.05:39
Yud_Zroc? huh i still dont get it...sorry for sounding so nieve05:39
Yud_Zrocoh ok05:39
FlannelYud_Zroc: apart from that, both of you are finished here, I think.05:39
nickrudwe really have no claim on how you present yourself/ubuntu elsewhere. We do ask that you don't make us look bad ;)05:39
* Yud_Zroc salutes05:40
Yud_Zrocusually i am in ##windows to help them people05:40
meoblast001i feel like i am part of the Ubuntu too05:40
meoblast001and i made a stupid move05:40
nickrudmeh. Who hasn't?05:40
Yud_Zroclol05:40
meoblast001i originally went there cuz #gnu sent me there05:40
meoblast001blame them05:40
Yud_Zroclmao05:40
* nickrud goes to get a soda.05:41
Yud_Zroci want soda :(05:41
meoblast001nickrud: what did you have to do to get voice?05:41
meoblast001nickrud: are you Shuttleworth?05:41
meoblast001Yud_Zroc: did you hear that05:42
nickrudhere? I was dragged, kicking and screaming, into op land. And that is one of the funniest things I've ever heard05:42
meoblast001we're talking to Shuttleworth05:42
Yud_Zrocnope...i have my headset off05:42
Yud_Zrocfor many unpronounced reasons05:42
meoblast001Shuttleworth's name makes me laugh05:42
meoblast001cuz he went to space05:42
meoblast001thats the only reason why05:42
nickrudmeoblast001 Yud_Zroc I think you are all done here, and this isn't a chatter channel. See you all in #ubuntu some time05:42
meoblast001its so nonironic05:42
Yud_Zrocok if i get bashed by a windows user like them calling my os trash what should i do :(05:43
meoblast001nickrud: one more question05:43
Yud_Zroci dont want to make the mistake05:43
nickrudignore the crud05:43
meoblast001nickrud: 2 more questions05:43
meoblast001question 105:43
meoblast001i forgot question 105:43
Yud_Zrocits hard when my dads friend bashs me every time im over05:43
meoblast001oh wait05:43
meoblast001i remember05:43
meoblast001what do you mean by "dragged, kicking and screaming"05:43
meoblast001they forced you here?05:43
nickruda council member threatened me with +b05:44
Flannelmeoblast001: Yes, we did.  We chained him to his computer desk.05:44
meoblast001question 205:44
Yud_Zroc+b?05:44
meoblast001i have a friend05:44
meoblast001who hates Ubuntu and Linux05:44
meoblast001but knows nothing about it05:44
meoblast001except for no games05:44
nickrudYud_Zroc banning from ubuntu :)05:44
meoblast001and has never even used it05:44
Yud_Zrocouch that is cold05:45
meoblast001so what do i do about that?05:45
nickrudmeoblast001 why worry about him? He's not running your machine, etc. etc. If he disses you over it, either he's lonely and wants reaction, or isn't your friend. (two possibles). But I'm not a relationship counselor :)05:45
tritiumYou don't have to do anything, meoblast001.05:46
meoblast001well05:46
meoblast001i dont really have many friends05:46
meoblast001well05:46
meoblast001for the most part05:46
meoblast001i just hate seeing everyone run windows05:46
meoblast001i cant even watch a computer commercial anymore without thinking "its a shame what that thing is running"05:46
meoblast001ive grown too much pride in ubuntu05:47
* Yud_Zroc looks at dell for doing the right thing05:47
Yud_Zrocwell im off05:47
meoblast001System76 is better05:47
meoblast001if they would be cheaper05:47
meoblast001i'll leave when i get this figured out05:47
nickrudmeoblast001 the guys in #ubuntu-offtopic love most of this chatter.05:47
meoblast001ok05:47
meoblast001=)05:47
meoblast001or in #wrongplanet05:47
nickrudand probably have ideas about gaining converts05:47
meoblast001ppl with Aspergers05:47
meoblast001likem e05:47
meoblast001and in #ubuntu-marketing, #ubuntu-screencasts, and #ubuntu-us-oh05:48
meoblast001i'm everywhere05:48
meoblast001im out to normal land anymore05:48
meoblast001the white walls in this room are scaring me05:48
nickrudmeoblast001 I'll look you up later ;)05:49
meoblast001so do i go down this hallway, take a right click at the treeview, and select Close Tab?05:49
meoblast001lol05:49
meoblast001cya in another channel05:49
tritiumFascinating, captain.05:49
* elky_work blinks05:50
* nickrud really goes for a soda05:50
Hobbseesickly sweet...05:54
Hobbseei think i'll go be sick somewhere05:54
Flanneldon't be sick in -motu05:55
Hobbseei'm trying not to...05:55
Hobbseeactually, it's more a definite sense of deja vu, as she did it to nixternal in #k-d a month or two ago.05:55
HobbseeFlannel: and i'm glad to see that ubuntu can rely on people to boost their egos.05:57
* Flannel doesn't follow.05:58
Hobbseewhich bit?05:59
Flannelwhos ego is being boosted?05:59
* nickrud thinks ubuntu doesn't have an ego, since it's not human05:59
HobbseeFlannel: whoever's.05:59
HobbseeFlannel: whoever she who cannot be named decides to target.05:59
Flannelgotcha06:00
FlannelHobbsee: well, it *is* wonderful that he's doing... whatever it is he's doing.  But... I think its being candy coated a little heavily.  Its kind of spooky.06:01
HobbseeFlannel: those mirror my thoughts, except you don't have the sense of deja vu in there, from seeing her do it before.06:01
* nickrud is disturbed to see the flattery spread beyond himself06:07
* Flannel flatters nickrud.06:08
Hobbseenickrud: oh, you thought you were the only one?06:08
nickrudHobbsee I AM the only ONE06:08
Hobbseenickrud: no you're not.06:08
* Hobbsee pokes with the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!™06:08
* nickrud musters his shield, in hopes of survival06:09
Hobbseeheh06:09
Hobbseethe shield won't make any difference.06:10
Hobbseebut you were lucky06:10
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)06:10
ubottuFloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join)06:10
ubottuamirman called the ops in #ubuntu (Sammy_Food_Run and AquaBaba are spam bots that seem to be spamming some people in this channel via pm, may one of you could do something about it?)06:53
bazhang<Raas|wtf> change my nick? wtf08:13
gnomefreaksaw that08:16
gnomefreakbut he left08:16
bazhangimmediately after saying that.08:17
bazhangthe ironies abound08:17
gnomefreakyep08:17
gnomefreakthis cant be good08:20
gnomefreaki was right this isnt good :( someone please shoot me08:22
Tm_T?08:22
gnomefreakemma08:23
Tm_Tnot again08:23
bazhangraas = her?08:23
gnomefreaki dont know her and she pms me anyway sasying that she thinks i trust her i dont know her well enough to trust her08:24
gnomefreakbazhang: maybe08:24
gnomefreak50% chance08:24
gnomefreakwell there is a 3rd option but well you never know08:24
bazhang24-178-113-202.dhcp.crtn.ga.charter.com <--that is georgia (raas' ip)?08:25
gnomefreakdoes IRCc have a mailing list or do they use -ops list? i would like this to be private (nothing bad though)09:05
gnomefreakanyone from IRCc lurking?09:12
gnomefreakor anyone that can add ops to one of the #ubuntu channels09:13
* elky introduces bazhang to arin.net09:13
elkygnomefreak, hmm?09:13
gnomefreakelky: i think we should add 2 people as ops in -ot09:14
gnomefreaki have 2 in mind one is op in #ubuntu already09:14
elkygnomefreak, pm me and i can pass it on09:14
gnomefreakok09:14
gnomefreakelky: thanks09:16
gnomefreakshes too young to have cancer :(09:22
gnomefreaki know never too young09:22
bazhangsorry elky missed your post; have to head to work for a bit09:29
gnomefreakskip work09:29
gnomefreak;)09:29
bazhanghaha I wish09:29
bazhangreally have to rush now.09:29
jussi01!test09:37
ubottuFailed!09:37
gnomefreakmaybe !test == stop poking me ;)09:53
ompaulor I hear ya but I'm busy09:54
thunderstruck@whoami09:56
ubottuthunderstruck: gnomefreak09:56
thunderstruckcs is messed up :(09:56
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Myrttimur10:19
FlannelMyrtti: good morning to you too.10:20
Myrttinot so sure about the good10:29
* elky hugs Myrtti10:31
elkywhat about now?10:31
MyrttiI'll tell you when I've drank the first cup of coffee10:32
gnomefreakwhere is trash located?  (10:32
gnomefreak:)10:32
gnomefreak:(10:32
elkygnomefreak, cant remember where they moved it to...10:33
elkydoes locate find it?10:34
gnomefreaki tried locate but it really only gave me kde and applets and icons10:34
gnomefreak/usr/share?10:34
gnomefreakhmmmmm10:34
gnomefreaknope10:35
elky/home/[user]/.local/share/Trash ?10:36
Myrtti!trash10:37
ubottuThe location of Trash has changed in 8.04, it is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash | Looking for the trash in previous versions: ~/.Trash10:37
Myrttisilly gnomefreak10:37
gnomefreakoh10:38
elkyhes been out of action a while hon10:38
* gnomefreak bangs head on desk10:38
Flannel!test10:40
ubottuFailed!10:40
Myrttielky: so you iz silly too :-P10:41
elkyyup10:42
Myrttitechnical cat is technical: did you know that if you forget the sudo command before the command needing sudo, you can issue it with sudo !!10:51
elkyoh?10:51
Myrttiiftop10:51
Myrtti"oops"10:51
Myrttisudo !!10:51
elkyoh, the !! is relevent?10:52
Myrttiyup10:52
elkyooh, it applies to the previous line no matter when you do it10:53
elkynice trick10:53
ompaulcheck out !* after ls -al foo10:55
ompaulthen do sh !*10:55
ompaulif you want to run foo10:55
ompaulor some such you know the rules10:55
Dave2(...and so do I?)10:57
* Dave2 hides in another window.10:58
* ompaul pulls Dave2 by the short curly hair on his head back to his seat in -ops11:03
* ompaul looks around for people with bad minds11:04
Dave2ow11:04
ompaulhowya11:05
* Myrtti yawns11:10
MyrttiI wonder what then.11:28
* Hobbsee looks at the backscroll12:27
Hobbseedid i miss something?12:27
Tm_Thi kids13:06
PiciHi13:07
TuniX12hello i tried to connect to #ubuntu but it said i was banned why?14:38
ompaul@btlogin14:38
TuniX12any help please14:39
ompaulwhat nick were you using?14:40
PiciTuniX12: you should be good now, sorry for the inconvenience.14:41
TuniX12thanks Pici14:41
* ompaul puts hands in air14:41
ompaulmost likely me14:41
Piciit was14:41
ompaulstupid spammers I gave them "lart" removed new know how and missed that14:42
Picilart is a bit too powerful imo.14:42
ompaulnow and again14:42
ompaulif I had done whois first it would have been something else14:43
ompaulohh well14:43
PiciI fail.15:20
jussi01!fail | Pici15:20
ubottuPici: FAILZ!15:20
Hobbsee!fail | Bubblewrap @ OFTC15:24
ubottuBubblewrap @ OFTC: FAILZ!15:24
ubottuIn ubottu, ubunturos said: !no-answer is "Ubuntu India IRC channel is usually inactive, and hence you may not get an immediate response for your query. Also, for those who are active in the channel, may not know the solution to your problem. Please wait for a while, and do search during that time; Also search archives https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-in/15:30
bazhangargh15:30
ubottuIn ubottu, ubunturos said: !no-answer is "Ubuntu India IRC channel is usually inactive, and hence you may not get an immediate response for your query. Also, for those who are active in the channel, may not know the solution to your problem. Please wait for a while, and do search during that time; Also search archives https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-in/"15:30
Piciargh15:31
Piciso... if theres no one around, who will trigger that factoid?15:31
bazhang!doesntwork15:32
ubottuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.15:32
ubunturosI have submitted a factoid recently; Is there a limited time period in which it'll be approved or dis-approved?15:36
bazhangubunturos, no time limit :)15:37
ubunturosbazhang: oh, so how do I know the status of it?15:38
bazhangubunturos, what was the factoid?15:38
ubunturosbazhang: it isn't posted here automatically?15:39
bazhang!in15:39
ubottu#ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India15:39
bazhangthat one?15:39
ubunturosIt was: !no-answer is "Ubuntu India IRC channel is usually inactive, and hence you may not get an immediate response for your query. Also, for those who are active in the channel, may not know the solution to your problem. Please wait for a while, and do search during that time; Also search archives https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-in/15:39
ubunturosbazhang: yes, a factoid *for* Ubuntu-India15:39
bazhangubunturos, you have ubottu in there?15:40
ubunturosbazhang: there's ubot3 in #ubuntu-in, which recently, got isconnected on its own?15:40
bazhangubunturos, who will click that factoid if no one is around?15:41
ubunturosbazhang: I usually am online, and find people asking questions, but even active members don't respond, often (may be due to lack of time)15:41
ubunturosbazhang: so, for those who ask questions, this factoid could be invoked to ask them to wait for a while15:42
bazhangubunturos, well the powers that be review the factoids and then us lower downs remember and click them :) no idea if that will be accepted but thanks for submitting15:42
PiciWhy not put a message to be patient in the topic? Or as an onjoin message?15:43
ubunturosPici: I'm doubtful, if they would care to read /topic15:43
ikoniaI thought it was supposed to have a loco bot ?15:43
ubunturosand interactive response could probably be 'catchy'15:43
ubunturosbazhang: ok15:44
* bazhang points to the factoid keeper above ^^15:44
jpdsWhat should we tell people who want to hosts bots like ubot3?16:00
jpdsMail ubuntu-irc@l.u.c ?16:01
ikoniawhy is ubottu in ubuntu-india16:01
ikoniamore so as it appears dead16:02
ubunturosikonia: But it did (does?) respond to queries16:03
ikoniaI'm sure it does16:03
ikoniabut I thought it was supposed to be a loco bot16:03
ubunturosikonia: it probably is, but the Ubuntu Wiki suggests, it uses the same db as ubotu16:04
ikoniaoh, I didn't know/appriciate that16:04
ikoniathat seems to be a double edged sword16:05
Myrttithere should be a separate bot for loco channels16:13
Myrttiubottu shouldn't be there, IMO16:13
ubottuMyrtti: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:14
Myrttiand my she is lagging16:14
ompaulnow then16:27
jpdsHot afternoon16:28
* ompaul adopts the Jimmy Savile voice16:28
Myrttihas everyone seen Assembly Megascreen?16:29
ompaulnow then, I think that bot could do with a hand, I have an idea do we have some bot coders in the house?16:29
ompaulbecause if we do then I think we can split loads in ways that make sense16:29
ompaulmore than one ubottu and like flood bots they tell each other how much they are doing16:31
PiciHow?16:31
jpdsAs in a botnet for ubottu ?16:31
ompauljpds, yeap16:32
ompaulPici, let me call them A B C16:32
ompaulto start A B C are split randomly across the set of channels16:32
ompaulthey then report ping times to the other two16:33
ompaulthey also report queues16:33
ompaulif the load is mounting for one then the "least loaded or highest numbered if no measure of least load can be made" asks the loaded bot for three channels16:34
ompaulthe bots score channels on amount of traffic16:34
ompauland so they report the three channels in positions 3 4 5 in their list16:35
ompaulthe "take over bot" joins them - - when the loaded bot "sees" the join it parts16:36
ompauldo it again16:36
ompaulrinse repeat etc16:36
ompaulPici, needs a little bit of tidying - and review after implementation but it should be coded to do something like that16:36
ompaulhopefully the system would react before there was an issue16:37
PiciSounds somewhat doable.16:37
ompaulPici, it needs the code to be flexible about what it reports16:37
ompaulso that it can be fine tuned16:37
ikoniathe database would be interesting to look at in terms of a generic database and locodb16:42
ikonia!trigger for ubotu's db %trigger for the specifica loco factoid16:42
ubottuikonia: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:42
Piciikonia: channel specific factoids already exist in ubotu's code.16:42
ikoniaPici: how are they triggered ?16:43
Piciikonia: see !compiz-#kubuntu vs. !compiz16:43
ompaulopenvpn is OpenVPN is a vpn technology for which there are packages in Ubuntu and most other GNU/Linux Distributions, see http://openvpn.net/ and see the documentation "HOWTO"16:43
ompaul!openvpn is OpenVPN is a vpn technology for which there are packages in Ubuntu and most other GNU/Linux Distributions, see http://openvpn.net/ and see the documentation "HOWTO"16:44
ubottuI'll remember that, ompaul16:44
ompaulthat needs a qualifier16:45
ompaul!no openvpn is <reply> OpenVPN is a vpn technology in Ubuntu, sudo apt-get install openvpn and then see http://openvpn.net/ and see the documentation "HOWTO" noting you have already installed it. ;-) It rocks!16:46
ubottuI'll remember that ompaul16:46
naliothwhich one of you ordered the hurricane for me?16:46
ompaul /whois weatherman16:46
naliothit really was no necessary, you know.16:46
ompaulits only 45mph you should be ok16:47
ompaulslow mover though :-(16:47
ompaulhttp://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo_atl.shtml16:48
* Myrtti grunts16:52
ikoniaPici: did you mean to compiz me in #kubuntu ;)16:52
ompaulikonia, only cos you deserved it :)16:53
ompaulhe knows something16:53
Piciikonia: yes, I was showing you how the bot automatically picked the #kubuntu version of the !compiz factoid.16:53
ompaulit is Pici16:53
ikoniaPici: ahh I see wha tyou did16:53
ikoniayup, I see what you where doing16:53
ompaul!compiz16:53
ubottuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion16:53
ompaul!compiz~#kubuntu16:53
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about compiz~#kubuntu16:53
ompaulbah16:54
* ompaul is forgetting things16:54
PiciSorry, I don't know anything about ompaul.16:54
ompaulhahaha16:54
ompaul!ompaul16:54
ubottuompaul is well ompaul, don't get me started about that guy16:54
ompauland the bot does ... way to go16:54
Dave2hah16:56
mneptok!angermonkey17:07
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about angermonkey17:07
mneptokyou're about to find out ...17:07
PiciWho let mneptok out of his cage?17:08
ompaul!angermonkey17:08
ubottuplease don't wake mneptok please17:08
ompaul!forget angermonkey17:08
ubottuI'll forget that, ompaul17:08
ompaulanyway17:08
ompaulhowya bud!17:08
Myrtti*sigh*17:09
* Pici pokes Myrtti 17:09
ompauland so it was that Myrtti was poked17:09
PiciAnd Lo, it was good.17:09
ompauland Myrtti did exclaim onto the channel - "tea for me, tea for you, tea for two!"17:10
* Myrtti goes to put her phone to recharge17:10
mneptokgar!17:10
ompaulmneptok, if you want to wake up happy listen to Gorillaz Last Living Souls17:10
mneptokmmmm is for monkey17:11
Myrtti97yio17:11
Myrttisorry17:11
mneptokmonkey! monkAY-EEE! monkey! doanchya know you gotta ... shock the monkey.17:11
ompaulmneptok, ;-)17:12
ompaulhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE-pbBYwPHs17:12
ompaulhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oaSZxd9jOY thats more like it17:13
Myrttihmmm17:14
MyrttiI've not taken my meds today17:14
MyrttiI think17:14
mneptokdon't worry, i took yours.17:19
* mneptok admires his new boobies17:19
Myrttimneptok: wow, I didn't know my medication has those effects17:19
mneptokneither did i, or i would have asked about maximum safe dosage!17:20
ompaulalllll soooo funny17:21
ompaulI am about to enter into a kitchen adventure with dinner and preparation l8r as they say17:22
jpdsompaul: Cheerio "m8".17:22
mneptokompaul: tell Missus OM that i says 'allo.17:23
bazhangphones17:29
Picino thanks, I have one.17:29
bazhangthe nick I めあん17:29
bazhangoops sorry17:29
bazhangmean17:29
jpdsFancy symbols..17:30
bazhangdarn skim :)17:31
bazhanghow many warnings does phones get?17:41
ikoniano more17:42
bazhanghehe17:42
ikoniaselling the iphone in #ubuntu is not on as a.) it's tied to specific sellers so probably illegal b.) offtopic c.) he's ignoring the warnings d.) his nick is phones so he knows what he's doing17:43
bazhangyup17:43
ikoniatalking to him in pm17:43
* Myrtti sighs17:47
ikoniagoing to remove him as while I'm talking to him he's joining other channels to sell phones17:48
jpdsircname : phones seller17:49
ikoniaexactly17:49
ikoniahe knew what he was doing when I spoke to him in PM17:51
jpdsTrying to sell you a phone?17:51
ikonianah, just smart responses "please don't attempt to sell phones" "what should I sell in ubuntu then"17:52
ikoniaetc17:52
bazhangubuntu mugs :)17:52
naliothklined (no more cheap iphones)17:54
mneptoki sold my self-respect and free time in #ubuntu.17:55
mneptokdo over?17:55
bazhanghaha17:55
bazhangsudo apt-get install mulligan17:55
mneptokhrmy. where did epiphany-webkit go?17:56
ompaulmneptok, herself says - hi there17:56
* ompaul looks at jpds with one eyebrow raised17:57
ompaulhehe17:57
Myrttimneptok: I don't think it has ever been17:57
Myrttiyet17:57
mneptokompaul: tell her if she'd like to slap you, now's the time. i'm giving her permission while the Atlantic makes things easy.17:58
ikoniaphones just got klined17:58
ompaulhahaha17:58
Myrttiikonia: you're lagging17:58
ikoniaooh yes17:58
ikoniajust seen it in the conversation above17:58
bazhangno free iphones for #ubuntu I'm guessing17:58
Myrttimeh.17:58
ompaulmneptok, her reply <dry laugh>haha</dry laugh>17:58
ompaulmneptok, I just did the cooking so it was *excellent*17:59
mneptokbest way to get a free iPhone: 1). line up on release day. - 2). wait until you're 10th in line - 3). sell your spot to an Apple gadget whore - 4). PROFIT! - 5). repeat as necessary.17:59
ompaulmneptok, brilliant17:59
ompaulmneptok, get all your mates to line up with you and then collect a % on them18:00
* Myrtti pokes her Internet18:00
ompaulmneptok, but we really should not be encouraging people to buy drm18:00
Myrttitis broken again18:00
ompaulmneptok, when they get their phones we should be there with linux for the ipod for them :)18:01
mneptokwhy pay for a phone when impatient Apple fanboys with poor impulse control will do it for you?18:01
Myrttimy internets is broken it no workie.18:02
ompaulmneptok, http://www.amazon.com/Damon-Runyon-Broadway-Somewhat-Furthermore/dp/0330245430/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217869438&sr=1-7  now there is a good book18:04
ompaulmneptok, and what with the profit from the iphone I am sure you could afford one18:05
ompaulmneptok, I have a conclusion in need of a beginning and a middle ;-)18:08
Myrttimeh.18:13
mneptokompaul: i have an end in need of a wiping18:34
ompaulmneptok, feet and mats ;-)18:35
* Myrtti considers chocolate18:49
naliothgo for it18:50
Myrttiyeah. What else to cure heartache than chocolate18:50
Myrttineed to check if the nearby kiosk is still open18:51
mneptokMyrtti: alcohol seems popular, but somewhat ineffective as a cure.18:51
Myrttimneptok: yeah, I've tried that, it's not as good18:51
Myrttihangovers suck18:51
Myrttiyay, it is open for another 30 mins18:52
* mneptok gives Myrtti a Jolly Good Snuggling18:52
bazhangjfs is supported in ubuntu?18:52
PiciWhat about trepanation?18:52
* Myrtti puts pants on and goes to get lots of chocolate18:52
mneptokPici: don't let out the hot air!18:52
ompaulbazhang, I would not use it ;-)   if I have to be fast xfs for everything other than /18:55
bazhangompaul, thanks; just want to be sure it is possible18:55
ompaulbazhang, to check the valid ones run gparted18:56
bazhangompaul, apt-cache search turned up jfsutils so guessing yes :)18:57
ompaulbazhang, not available off the bat18:58
ompaulon gutsy18:58
bazhangompaul, just wanted to be sure about mermaidman as he has been ot of late18:59
ompaulack18:59
ubottuIn ubottu, Nizam said: what is ubuntu19:17
Tm_Thug me?19:18
* Myrtti hugs Tm_T 19:18
ubottuIn ubottu, Nizam said: what is debian19:18
naliothubottu: tell nizam about bot19:18
ubottunizam, please see my private message19:18
* Tm_T hugs Myrtti <319:18
naliothwhat a kludge.19:18
naliothwhy is that in there, again?19:18
* Myrtti ate chocolates, moves to other candies19:19
Tm_TMyrtti: coffee, chocolate, yes, whole package, and cookies and House :))19:19
Myrttidon't have any cookies, have seen House episodes19:20
Myrttino coffee thanks19:20
Tm_Theh19:23
Tm_TMyrtti: hmm, btw, where could I ask photos they took in EFFI stand?19:23
MyrttiTm_T: I've been looking at http://flickr.com/photos/suviko , I assume they will be there19:25
Tm_Taaa yes19:26
Tm_Tthanks :)19:26
Jack_Sparrowid we ever get an apology from nixnoob19:31
stdin@reload Encyclopedia19:43
ubottustdin: The operation succeeded.19:43
stdinubottu: what is something19:43
ubottuI am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:43
stdin:)19:43
mneptok@reload hollowpoint_and_tracer_rounds19:43
ubottumneptok: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.19:43
naliothwtf?!19:44
Myrttimy life in comics: http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2165 http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=216620:23
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Tm_Tsinfest <320:28
* Tm_T hugs Myrtti 20:28
Picipoor Myrtti20:32
* Pici sends virtual chocolate in Myrtti's direction20:32
mneptoki wish my life was like Sinfest20:33
mneptokhttp://www.sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2008-07-31.gif20:33
ompaulmneptok, but you are that shallow :P20:34
* ompaul buys mneptok a cup of tea20:34
* mneptok is as deep as a teaspoon20:35
* Myrtti larts mneptok 20:35
Myrttiass.20:35
Myrttieehaw20:35
ompauleehaw eehaw eehawto have more consideration?20:36
Tm_Thuzzah20:38
ompaulmneptok, seen this one?20:39
ompaulhttp://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/george_dyson_at_the_birth_of_the_computer.html20:39
mneptokMyrtti: i don't care if you laugh at me instead of with me, as long as you laugh.20:39
Myrttimneptok: as I've said before - make sure you are not in the hug perimeter of me20:39
* mneptok checks radar20:40
ompaulmneptok, you need oth radar atm20:40
ompauliirc20:40
Tm_Tmneptok: yeah, myrttis hugs are something to check for, from radar that is20:45
* Myrtti enrolls a nunnery21:25
* PriceChild wonders what the nunnery was enroled on21:30
jpdsPriceChild: Could you please do some magic to properly forward #ubuntu-art to #ubuntu-artwork ?21:33
jpdsOh and the same for #ubuntu-qa to #ubuntu-quality?21:34
PriceChildjpds: looks like someone's done -art?21:35
PriceChildjpds: -qa isn't the qa team21:35
PriceChildoh.. "properly"21:35
jpdsPriceChild: -art says: "You need invite", instead of forward.21:35
jpdsSo, what is -qa?21:35
PriceChildlooks fine to me21:35
PriceChildjpds: qatar21:36
jpdsHmm, nothing much going on there.21:37
stdinhmm, don't the new services have a SeenServ?21:39
jpdsNop. Pity.21:39
PriceChildstdin: use ns info's21:39
stdinI was just wondering because I hard-coded a reply to !seen ...21:40
PriceChildfor ubottu?21:40
stdin!seen anything goes here21:40
ubottuI have no seen command21:40
stdinyep ^21:40
stdinthere's also similar messages for !find !search and !info when they have nothing after them21:41
PriceChildI would rather ubottu didn't replicate nickserv's "last seen"21:41
stdinand saying to the bot "what is ..." will not try and make a factoid edit any more21:41
PriceChildthat's quite cool21:42
PriceChildI should poke canonical again about hosting.21:42
stdinit doesn't replace it, people often thing it has a seen command and try it21:42
jussi01PriceChild: is my hosting not good enough?21:42
PriceChildjussi01: its been quite good yeah... but its less likely the entire of canonical walks infront of a bus.. for example.21:43
jussi01PriceChild: We have a current back up + more than 1 person here have accounts on that machine ;)21:43
PriceChildjussi01: in running it, would you find it preferable to run it from canonical hosted?21:44
PriceChildwhat would it make easier/harder?21:44
jussi01PriceChild: only if we had complete access to the machine21:45
jpdsAs in sudo access?21:45
jussi01yes21:45
jussi01so we could install things etc21:45
PriceChildThe last time I did ask about it, I 'believe' it was mentioned it should be virtual machine type jobby... but I might have forgotten/I don'tk now.21:46
stdinthey do that with some LoCo team websites IIRC, so should be possible21:46
jussi01PriceChild: Im more than happy to give IRC council members access to the  machine - I really dont mind hosting it. if it ever goes down, we have several backups.21:46
PriceChildjussi01: I'm pretty sure I completely understand your reservations... and whatever change 'could' happen is probably still a long way off.21:48
PriceChildOh there's so many things to do.21:48
jussi01PriceChild: no probs. :) I just want to see ubottu be the best she canb be, and stdin is doing a wonderful job with development, so if it aint broke, dont fix it?21:49
PriceChildhehe... 'she'21:49
stdinif it ain't broke... give me 5 mins and I'll break it21:50
PriceChildI believe that it is better for the long run, if we have hosting that doesn't depend on any of 'us', and will allow whoever replaces us when we step down to continue as easily as possible.21:50
jussi01PriceChild: given. However, Id much prefer to have somesort of dedicated machine - be that vps or other.21:51
PriceChild'dedicated machine' being rather than a virtual machine server thing somewhere?21:52
jussi01vps is a virtual server21:53
jussi01:)21:53
PriceChildi should read entire sentences21:53
jussi01:)21:53
mneptokPriceChild: who were you talking to about bot hosting?21:55
jpdselmo, I think21:55
PriceChildmneptok: elmo, yet i kept forgetting to keep poking21:55
jussi01PriceChild: at the moment, we have a pretty decent machine, with pretty decent pipes, so yeah. But if it is to move to canonical, Id still like to be involved.21:55
PriceChildjussi01: i don't think i could run the bot ;)21:56
mneptokPriceChild: let me bring it up with sambfl and jono, too.21:56
mneptok*sabdfl21:56
PriceChildmneptok: i 'think' sabdfl said to go to elmo, can't be sure21:56
mneptok(later this week. i'm buried ATM.)21:56
mneptokPriceChild: sabdfl won;t say that to me. he likes elmo and vlaues his sanity. ;)21:57
PriceChild:)21:57
* jussi01 giggles21:59
PriceChildThanks mneptok.22:00
PriceChilduuu looks like ubotu has been logged into recently, i left seveas a message asking him to set enforce on a little ago, 'guessing' he's done that too22:00
PriceChildanyway, off for a little22:01
ikoniaPriceChild: he sorted it friday22:02
Myrttiwell this is random22:18
Myrttiwell that was random22:21
jpdsOh my God, ubottu got lost in netsplit!22:26
PriceChildbots didn't notice netsplit.. fail22:28
* PriceChild runs22:28
Myrttioh shite22:28
PriceChildor death, or w/e22:28
jpdsActually they did?22:28
* Myrtti holds her breath22:29
PriceChildI was just going on what I saw in their status channel, either way, things are still ok!22:29
ikoniaPriceChild: can you/staff member look at the user Pokmonly he's joining random channels and flooding them, then getting kicked and hitting randoms22:29
ikoniaPriceChild: he's on a static ip, he floods, then quits, count to 30 and he's bac22:30
ikoniaback22:30
naliothmaybe the bots aren't split?22:30
PriceChildikonia: where? (and staff should be poked in pm or in #freenode for best effect)22:30
PriceChildthey worked as they're meant to :)22:30
ikoniaPriceChild: of course, you where awake, just though you may have had a poke around22:31
ikoniaI'll hit freenode22:31
naliothikonia: don't bother22:31
ikoniaoh?22:31
PriceChildikonia: i wasn't saying i didn't wanna deal with it now sorry.22:32
ikoniaI didn't think that, thats cool,22:32
naliothikonia: he's gone now.  i'm watching for his IP22:32
ikonianalioth: he comes and goes, floods and quits22:32
ikonianalioth: give it 522:32
naliothikonia: yes, you told us.22:34
* nalioth has eyes out for the IP22:34
* Myrtti wonders how long we should wait for ubottu22:37
jussi01hrm...22:49
* jussi01 is suposed to be asleep22:49
Myrttijussi01: you want me to crank up ubot2?22:50
jussi01stdin: should we go for a start of ubottu?22:50
jussi01Myrtti: not yet, wait a seec22:50
jussi01she is still running.22:50
Myrttisomewhere in netsplittage land22:51
jussi01I think Ill try killing her, then restarting her to see how we go.22:51
jussi01:D23:02
PiciD:23:03
jussi01should be back in a sec... but Im off to bed - direct questions to stdin23:04
naliothstdin: what is the best baking temperature for angel food cake?23:05
stdin325F according to the first link google found23:06
naliothwhat is the viscosity of 10W40 motor oil at 112C ?23:08
stdinwhat am I, ask.com? :p23:09
nalioth1217887470 17:04 <+ju$$i01> should be back in a sec... but Im off to bed - direct questions to stdin23:10
naliothi was directing questions to you23:10
stdinI think he was referring questions regarding the bot, direct other questions to your nearest search engine :)23:11
Myrttinooooo?23:11
Picistdin: did you see the LP api announcement email?23:44
stdinPici: yeah, I just saw it23:45

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