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cellfishhey guys, i'm using xubuntu 8.04 and right now, when i double-click on an image file, it loads gimp. where can i change the default applications for images?03:37
sol1dushow do i change permssions for automounted usb devices?05:34
sol1dusis this a udev thing?05:34
sol1dusanyone alivE?05:38
luishi there, good night, everybody i like to ask 4 ur help pls06:07
luisi need to save some files to carry on with me on a usb memory stick, but my xubuntu just dont detect it, can youguys help me to fix it pls?06:08
murlidharluis: can u see ur stick in the file manager?06:08
luisno06:09
murlidharprobably need to change ur fstab which i am not sure i can help u but somebody will surely help u .06:10
luisdo i need to install something on konsole?06:10
luisi dont even know what a fstab is that is new for me06:11
murlidharluis: probably but u need to but would be fairly easy06:11
murlidharsteps06:12
luisiam not sure i understood what you said06:13
murlidharinfact searching applications from ur console is easier than searching from synaptic06:13
luisok06:13
luisso how do i look or what should i write down on my konsole?06:13
murlidharopen console06:14
luisdone06:14
murlidharnow type usbpci06:14
murlidhardo u see ur stick there ?06:15
murlidharMyrtti: in #ubuntu-offtopic ??06:15
luishere is what it appeared: usbpci: command not found06:15
murlidharoops06:16
murlidharwait a sec06:16
murlidharlsbusb might be the one06:16
murlidhartype lsbusb06:16
murlidharno lsusb06:16
luisappeared as follow:06:17
luisBus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:000006:17
luisBus 002 Device 002: ID 07b2:5100 Motorola BCS, Inc. SurfBoard SB5100 Cable Modem06:17
luisBus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:000006:17
luisBus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:000006:17
murlidharwhat is the name of ur stick/06:18
luislook i just input the stick and did that and appears the next:06:19
luisBus 003 Device 011: ID 1111:e20b Pandora International Ltd.06:19
luisBus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:000006:19
luisBus 002 Device 002: ID 07b2:5100 Motorola BCS, Inc. SurfBoard SB5100 Cable Modem06:19
luisBus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:000006:19
luisBus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:000006:19
luisso i think it might be the pandora one right?06:19
murlidharyes so ur computer is recognizing the stick06:20
luisbut when i try to save the files that i need it just dont give the option to save it on the stick06:20
murlidharluis: wait a second06:21
murlidharluis which file manager do u use ?06:26
luisthat is very good question how do i find out pls i am kindda new on this06:26
murlidha1luis: sorry i got disconnected06:32
luislook the only thing i c about that question is sometyhing that came along when i install xubuntu and is call: Thuna File Manager06:33
murlidha1open it06:33
luisdone06:34
murlidha1open the options06:34
murlidha1look in edit menu06:34
murlidha1u will find it06:34
luisno06:35
luistheres no such thing06:35
murlidha1preferences?06:35
murlidha1Myrtti: u there?06:36
murlidha1jussi01: ?06:36
luison preferences theres just display06:36
luisside pane06:36
murlidha1hmm06:36
luisbehavior06:36
luisand advance06:36
luisand none of them has memory stick options or usb06:37
murlidha1u still in #ubuntu channel?06:38
luisme??06:38
luisi m here in xubuntu06:38
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Guest82671Hi!  Everytime I upgrade from 6.06 to 8.04 I get  a busybox v1.1.13 error and it drops me to a shell has anyone seen this before?07:03
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lokuazhello09:05
lokuazfor some reason today my wireless stop working... i already enable the madwifi again, and its not working, i dont understand what its going on09:06
lokuazany idea?09:07
adamw9678Hi all. What the best way to run a exe file in xubuntu?09:08
[Miles]hi09:14
TheSheepadamw9678: either using dosbox or wine, depending if it's a dos program or w indows program09:15
adamw9678It's a exe file contaning windows drivers09:18
TheSheepwindows drivers usually won't work on linux, definitely not when simply installed from and exe file09:19
TheSheepthere are some hacks to use firmware from windows drivers for some hardware, but it's a little more comlicated09:20
adamw9678if i could locate the .inf for the device - would i be able rto run it in ndiswrapper?09:23
TheSheepI'm not sure, I'm poor with ndiswrapper, I guess it depends on the device09:31
olgemI looked some, but is there a list of default applications packaged with xubuntu? Last time I tried xubuntu it was using VLC by default, which I very much enjoyed, but it seems that totem has replaced it? Its not really an big issue, I can install it myself.10:46
TheSheepolgem: that's impossible, xubuntu never used vlc by default, simply because vlc cannot be shipped with it10:47
TheSheepolgem: due to some copyright/patent silliness10:47
olgemYeah, strange. I'm probably remembering incorrectly, I thought it just seperated out ffmpeg and prompted you to install the restricted-formats when you tried to play one with vlc.10:48
olgemThat wouldn't happen, though.10:48
TheSheepolgem: as far as I know, only totem has this prompting currently10:48
olgemI see the tour shows some of the applications.10:48
olgemTheSheep, thanks.10:48
olgemI hear xubuntu runs nicely with the Asus Eee - taking up only 3G or so after install. Xubuntu seems like a good choice over installing netbook-specific spins of various distros.10:50
TheSheepolgem: I think that 3GB is still a lot10:52
TheSheepolgem: but xubuntu never really aimed to be small10:52
olgemTheSheep, maybe so, what does xubuntu typically take up after a fresh install?10:52
TheSheepolgem: I think 3GB is about right10:53
TheSheepolgem: but it would be possible to shave a lot of it if you prepared a distro for eee specifically10:53
TheSheepolgem: xubuntu is big partly because it has to work out of the box on most hardware out there10:55
olgemTheSheep, I suppose, what would you go about removing to save maybe a gigabyte off the default install?10:56
TheSheepolgem: it's not so easy, as the parts you want to remove are often included in packages you want to stay10:57
TheSheepolgem: if I wanted to make a lean and mean system, I would pick something that lets me customize it heavily without too much breaking10:58
TheSheepolgem: a different distro, obviously10:58
olgemI would use a debian netinstall10:58
TheSheepolgem: well, xubuntu basically uses debian packages, so not much gain here10:59
TheSheepbut if you don't want to play and customize too much, xubuntu offers a nice balance of features vs. lightness11:00
olgemIt uses the debian packaging format and system, but it doesn't use debian's repositories or anything, in fact a lot of the packages are incompatible with each other. Debian Netinstall just install a command line system, you apt-get everything else, even xorg and wm11:00
olgemand a wm*11:00
TheSheepolgem: at the beginning of every release cycle they synchronize ubuntu repos with debian11:00
wols_TheSheep: only to a degree11:01
olgemTheSheep, I didn't know that, or maybe I did.11:01
TheSheepolgem: then they do their own modifications, and add ubuntu-specific packages11:01
olgemDon't they sync with Sid?11:01
wols_and: they base it on sid11:01
wols_TheSheep: the longer ubuntu exists, the more they diverge11:01
naxxtorhm, got a problem with the sound card on my X31, http://pastebin.com/d26945163 there's all the relevant information - it's not being picked up by asound but the modules appear to have loaded.  Any ideas?11:02
olgemTheSheep, you're right though. xubuntu is just fine and will fit in the pc I want to get.11:02
olgemnaxxtor, they have a dedicated channel for #alsa11:03
olgemProbably a better bet to ask there11:03
naxxtorhmm, i suppose so11:03
naxxtorseems like it migt be an ubuntu related problem, since i've seen sound work just fine on debian with similar configuration11:04
olgemHave you seen others running ubuntu and the same machine with this problem?11:05
olgem"To install Xubuntu, you need 1.5 GB of free space on your hard disk."11:07
olgemHmmm, I guess I'll just have to see. Some report 3GB, this says 1.5.11:07
TheSheepnaxxtor: forums and bugtracker might contain some solutions11:08
TheSheepnaxxtor: just search for your card chipset there11:08
ablomenolgem, my xubuntu install uses just 3 gb, and thats with a lot of extra stuff installed, so yeah it should be a lot less for a fresh install11:09
olgemablomen, thanks for the info.11:10
naxxtorTheSheep: i'm searching away but finding very little of use :(11:10
TheSheepnaxxtor: you can try posting a question or bug report too, if there is nothing similar already11:11
naxxtorthere are similar things on the forums but with wrong solutions11:15
naxxtore.g. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24962711:16
naxxtorhow could something be blocking the sound card if it's not been detected?11:16
TheSheepnaxxtor: checked your dmesg?11:17
TheSheepnaxxtor: maybe some module fails to load?11:17
naxxtoryep, checked dmesg11:17
TheSheepnaxxtor: do you know which module should be used for that sound card? you could try loading it manually with modprobe11:18
naxxtorit should be snd_intel8x011:18
naxxtorwhich *appears* to be loaded11:18
naxxtorsnd_intel8x0           35376  111:19
TheSheepnaxxtor: try unloading it and loading again maybe11:19
TheSheepunload with rmmod11:19
naxxtori can't, it's in use11:19
TheSheepso the sound card is not detected, but it's in use? %)11:20
naxxtorapparently!11:20
naxxtori'll try forcing it11:20
naxxtorgaaah11:21
naxxtorERROR: Removing 'snd_intel8x0': Device or resource busy11:21
TheSheepyou could also try asking on #ubuntu, this part is common11:22
naxxtori did, but i got no response11:23
naxxtoroh, look, here's the exact same problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86506011:29
naxxtorbut i'm not swapping distros like a kid with ADD11:29
TheSheepnaxxtor: it's a thinkpad? you might want to also check the thinkwiki then11:36
naxxtorTheSheep: yeah, it is a thinkpad, and i have checked the thinkwiki11:39
naxxtorand it doens't seem to have anything useful11:39
TheSheepnaxxtor: then I'm out of advices11:40
naxxtori'm stracing modprobe and trying to work out why it's hanging >_<11:41
adamw9678Hello all12:03
adamw9678I am trying to make a persistent USB version of xubuntu using my xubuntu laptop but when I come to mount I type  mount -o loop -tiso9660 xubuntu*.iso /cdrom  but I have no cdrom drive and I get a error message saying cdrom does not exist. Is there somthing I can type in insted of cdrom?12:07
vinnladamw9678, you can use another directory you created12:07
vinnlBut it needs to exist12:07
vinnlI'd use something like /tmp/iso12:08
adamw9678OK, using the terminal how would I create a directory that I can use?12:08
vinnlmkdir /tmp/iso12:08
adamw9678Thanks12:09
vinnlnp :)12:09
DavidTangyeHi all. Has anyone tried to install Xubuntu without a CD, using the netboot stuff, similar to how Ubuntu can be done?12:44
DavidTangye.. or does anyone know if it CAN be done. I cannot find any netboot.tar.gz for Xubuntu... so far.12:45
naxxtoryes12:46
naxxtori did it last night :)12:46
vinnlDavidTangye, I believe it *can* be done but I haven't tried it12:46
vinnlAh :)12:46
naxxtoryou need the alternate ISO12:47
naxxtorit's in /install/netboot12:47
DavidTangyeOh... I have the alt iso... brb.12:47
naxxtor(you should find pxelinux.0 and pxelinux.cfg in there, just copy both of them to your tftp directory)12:47
TheSheepDavidTangye: you just install a minimal ubuntu and then install xubuntu-desktop on it12:47
DavidTangyeTheSheep: Yes. I have done it that way too before.12:49
naxxtorxubuntu is really no different to ubuntu except it has xubuntu-desktop package intead of ubuntu-desktop :p12:49
DavidTangyeTheSheep: ... this time I want to install Xubuntu distro. There might be a slight difference at later distro upgrade times.12:50
DavidTangyeIt should be, but I am not entirely sure that is true.12:50
naxxtori believe that the netboot images are identical, except the installer has the option to install xubuntu-desktop when you select your packages12:50
DavidTangyeOK, I am about to find out. Thanks a lot for the help.12:51
naxxtori can tar up the netboot image i used last night if you like, but it's on the ISO :)12:51
DavidTangyeyes it shave it thanks. i just didn't see it :-)12:51
DavidTangye.. I have it12:52
naxxtorwow, i was useful :p12:53
vinnl^.^12:53
DavidTangyeHi again. Xubuntu installation is running smoothly from a netboot setup. No CDs burnt here :-).13:27
vinnlDavidTangye, yay! :)13:29
naxxtorawesome :)13:31
naxxtorthe only problem i had with netboot was that things were taking an age to download - and i put that down to the evil ISP i'm using currently13:31
DavidTangyenaxxtor: At least once the iso is down, you can reuse it during each netbooted install.13:45
DavidTangyeInstall failed: old PC, kernel package install failed. Back to Plan A: install std ubuntu without a desktop, then add Xubuntu desktop package, like I did 6 months ago.13:47
DavidTangye.. Oh well, it was worth a try.13:48
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yahzukiHi there! I tried to integrate an icon theme (GNOME-colors from gnome-look) but it's just "half-working". After activating it folders and some system icons are properly "skinned", but all files (*.tar.gz, *.conf, etc.) just use the standard-thunar icon.14:52
shane_need help!what prog do i use to add videos to my ipod nano15:35
mthea deep & meaningful question: what is the default display manager on xubuntu, and what would people suggest for a minimal spec one...16:47
wols_xdm16:48
vinnlmthe, gdm is the default16:49
mthety vinnl16:49
mthewols_ I will have to learn how to configure that one;)16:49
wols_vinnl: we are talking xubuntu16:50
wols_gdm is the DM for ubuntu, not for xubuntu16:50
vinnlwols_, yeah, gdm is Xubuntu's default16:50
vinnlwols_, see http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cdimage-xubuntu/releases/8.04/release/xubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.manifest and search for gdm16:51
wols_ak16:54
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RandyboYIs aMSN supposed to be with no sound? Installed aMSN cause i liked the design. But it seems to be without any sound... No other programs is without sound. So i guess my soundcard/setting is working17:56
vinnlRandyboY, it's been a while since I used that (it's ugly, I like emesene better), but I believe it is17:58
vinnlThough then again, it might not be, you might try setting a sound system in the preferences17:58
RandyboYvinnl, but i havent touched any settings to mute the program.. Ive tried to set it to _make_ sounds on different happenings18:00
vinnlRandyboY, it might be some PulseAudio stuff or something, but I'm really not at home in sound settings18:00
vinnlI'd say: play around with the settings and see if it starts working ;-)18:00
RandyboYvinnl, ive done that, and me asking here is last try :-) Ive installed emesene now, and logged in, but my contacts isnt transfered?18:02
vinnlHmm, that's odd18:02
RandyboYmh, yeah.. Rahter annoying actually :) But i agree, liked the design on that one too... (I'm a converted windows-user and it looks alot like MSN ;-))18:04
vinnlIt does :)18:05
vinnlIn fact, the developers of emesene are going to work together with the aMSN developers and create aMSN2 :)18:05
vinnlAnyway, dinnertime18:05
vinnlGood luck, bye :)18:06
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viktorsalve18:58
viktorcerco un aituto18:58
viktoraiuto18:58
viktorx connessione ad internet con xubuntu18:59
viktorc'รจ chi puo aiutarmi?19:00
jokoonHello ! cant thunar browse shared directories ?19:05
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RandyboYAnyone here familiar with pidgin? Is there any way to close chat-windows with esc-button?19:31
kekokikohello. at boot time im getting this error: Intel rng:FWH not found. and its taking to long to boot.. it seems i dont need it.. how can i delete it20:38
kekokikohello. at boot time im getting this error: Intel rng:FWH not found. and its taking to long to boot.. it seems i dont need it.. how can i delete it20:44
slow-motionhi21:03
neur1heya guys21:31
neur1you guys go the xorg update/21:31
neur1?21:31
neur1thanks21:35
frodoI am running Xubuntu on an old Pentium III. The other day, something happened, and I lost the menu panel and tray. Don't know what happened. How can I get the panel back?21:50
pjvandehaarwhy do programs on xubuntu seem to have so many issues?21:52
pjvandehaarnobody home?21:52
pjvandehaarhuh...21:52
pjvandehaaranybody here?21:55
frodoI'm here21:55
frodoI have lost the panel under Xfce4. Any ideas on how to get it back (permanently)?21:59
siggjenstart it with xfce4-panel22:00
frodoI'll try that.22:05
frodothe panel runs with the command xfce4-panel, but disappears once the terminal is closed. Is there some way to put that command in a file??22:07
siggjenxfce4-autostart-editor22:08
frodoI'll try that.22:09
frodoMust log out now and restart my desktop22:10
siggjen<alt> + <f2> should give you a run command prompt22:10
siggjenif you need it22:10
frodoThanks.22:10
redAnyone here?  I have a problem.  I have an i810 integrated Intel graphics chip on this laptop, and I tried using the Intel graphics driver.  It crapped out and I uninstalled it and went back to the i810 driver, but I can't get it to work and I'm still stuck in low graphics mode.22:45
ihabI know I can install kde using apt-get but I actually have a kubuntu CD can I use it to install kde22:49
totalwormagewhat?22:50
totalwormageyou have a running ubuntu install on which you want kde?22:50
totalwormageor do you want a fresh ubuntu + kde install?22:51
ihabI have xubuntu 8.04 and I want to install kde22:51
totalwormageyou can just install kde alongside xfce22:52
ihabI know22:52
totalwormagethen what is the question :P22:52
ihabi want to install it from kubuntu cd is this possible ??22:52
totalwormagekubuntu comes standard with kde (hence the k ...)22:53
totalwormageyou mean you don't have an internetconnection or something?22:53
ihabI have internet connection22:54
ihabbut I want to install the kde from CD is it possible22:54
totalwormageyes22:54
ihabhow ?22:55
totalwormageyou can add the cd as a repository22:55
totalwormagebut i guess you'll have to temporarily block out the online repo's before apt'll use the cd22:56
ihaband from synaptic package manager search for kubuntu-desktop ... is this the solution22:56
ihabok22:56
totalwormageyes22:56
ihabThanks a lot22:56
ihab:)22:57
totalwormagebut i don't understand why you want this :P22:57
ihabI really get uncomfortable with xfc22:57
ihaband I have slow internet connection22:58
totalwormageahhhh22:58
totalwormageyes, it's a matter of taste :P22:58
totalwormagei'm running awesome at the moment :D22:58
totalwormagereally freaky22:58
ihabI used kde a lot and I just like it22:59
totalwormageyou've seen kde4?22:59
ihabnot yet23:00
totalwormagei got it running for 10 secs, lol23:00
ihablol23:00
totalwormageit's probably more stable now :P23:00
ihabso,you like xfc more23:00
totalwormagei like xfce more then kde, but i'm not running xfce, i ran openbox for a while23:01
totalwormagenow awesome23:01
ihabyou run it alongside xfc ?23:02
totalwormageno, got rid of that a while ago :P23:02
* totalwormage 's not running ubuntu either, lol23:03
ihablol23:03
totalwormageso my ties to this channel are slim hehe23:03
ihabso strange O_o23:04
totalwormage:]23:04
ihabgtg23:05
ihabit was nice talking to you23:05
* totalwormage kicks ubottu 23:05
totalwormagestay online!23:05
bassboisorry23:16
totalwormagenp :P23:17
* totalwormage is already pleased that ubottu doesn't do the same anymore :P23:17
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