[02:02] join #arabeyes [03:37] hey guys, i'm using xubuntu 8.04 and right now, when i double-click on an image file, it loads gimp. where can i change the default applications for images? [05:34] how do i change permssions for automounted usb devices? [05:34] is this a udev thing? [05:38] anyone alivE? [06:07] hi there, good night, everybody i like to ask 4 ur help pls [06:08] i need to save some files to carry on with me on a usb memory stick, but my xubuntu just dont detect it, can youguys help me to fix it pls? [06:08] luis: can u see ur stick in the file manager? [06:09] no [06:10] probably need to change ur fstab which i am not sure i can help u but somebody will surely help u . [06:10] do i need to install something on konsole? [06:11] i dont even know what a fstab is that is new for me [06:11] luis: probably but u need to but would be fairly easy [06:12] steps [06:13] iam not sure i understood what you said [06:13] infact searching applications from ur console is easier than searching from synaptic [06:13] ok [06:13] so how do i look or what should i write down on my konsole? [06:14] open console [06:14] done [06:14] now type usbpci [06:15] do u see ur stick there ? [06:15] Myrtti: in #ubuntu-offtopic ?? [06:15] here is what it appeared: usbpci: command not found [06:16] oops [06:16] wait a sec [06:16] lsbusb might be the one [06:16] type lsbusb [06:16] no lsusb [06:17] appeared as follow: [06:17] Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 [06:17] Bus 002 Device 002: ID 07b2:5100 Motorola BCS, Inc. SurfBoard SB5100 Cable Modem [06:17] Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 [06:17] Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 [06:18] what is the name of ur stick/ [06:19] look i just input the stick and did that and appears the next: [06:19] Bus 003 Device 011: ID 1111:e20b Pandora International Ltd. [06:19] Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 [06:19] Bus 002 Device 002: ID 07b2:5100 Motorola BCS, Inc. SurfBoard SB5100 Cable Modem [06:19] Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 [06:19] Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 [06:19] so i think it might be the pandora one right? [06:20] yes so ur computer is recognizing the stick [06:20] but when i try to save the files that i need it just dont give the option to save it on the stick [06:21] luis: wait a second [06:26] luis which file manager do u use ? [06:26] that is very good question how do i find out pls i am kindda new on this [06:32] luis: sorry i got disconnected [06:33] look the only thing i c about that question is sometyhing that came along when i install xubuntu and is call: Thuna File Manager [06:33] open it [06:34] done [06:34] open the options [06:34] look in edit menu [06:34] u will find it [06:35] no [06:35] theres no such thing [06:35] preferences? [06:36] Myrtti: u there? [06:36] jussi01: ? [06:36] on preferences theres just display [06:36] side pane [06:36] hmm [06:36] behavior [06:36] and advance [06:37] and none of them has memory stick options or usb [06:38] u still in #ubuntu channel? [06:38] me?? [06:38] i m here in xubuntu === murlidhar is now known as Guest27888 === mike is now known as Guest82671 [07:03] Hi! Everytime I upgrade from 6.06 to 8.04 I get a busybox v1.1.13 error and it drops me to a shell has anyone seen this before? === kloeri_ is now known as kloeri [09:05] hello [09:06] for some reason today my wireless stop working... i already enable the madwifi again, and its not working, i dont understand what its going on [09:07] any idea? [09:08] Hi all. What the best way to run a exe file in xubuntu? [09:14] <[Miles]> hi [09:15] adamw9678: either using dosbox or wine, depending if it's a dos program or w indows program [09:18] It's a exe file contaning windows drivers [09:19] windows drivers usually won't work on linux, definitely not when simply installed from and exe file [09:20] there are some hacks to use firmware from windows drivers for some hardware, but it's a little more comlicated [09:23] if i could locate the .inf for the device - would i be able rto run it in ndiswrapper? [09:31] I'm not sure, I'm poor with ndiswrapper, I guess it depends on the device [10:46] I looked some, but is there a list of default applications packaged with xubuntu? Last time I tried xubuntu it was using VLC by default, which I very much enjoyed, but it seems that totem has replaced it? Its not really an big issue, I can install it myself. [10:47] olgem: that's impossible, xubuntu never used vlc by default, simply because vlc cannot be shipped with it [10:47] olgem: due to some copyright/patent silliness [10:48] Yeah, strange. I'm probably remembering incorrectly, I thought it just seperated out ffmpeg and prompted you to install the restricted-formats when you tried to play one with vlc. [10:48] That wouldn't happen, though. [10:48] olgem: as far as I know, only totem has this prompting currently [10:48] I see the tour shows some of the applications. [10:48] TheSheep, thanks. [10:50] I hear xubuntu runs nicely with the Asus Eee - taking up only 3G or so after install. Xubuntu seems like a good choice over installing netbook-specific spins of various distros. [10:52] olgem: I think that 3GB is still a lot [10:52] olgem: but xubuntu never really aimed to be small [10:52] TheSheep, maybe so, what does xubuntu typically take up after a fresh install? [10:53] olgem: I think 3GB is about right [10:53] olgem: but it would be possible to shave a lot of it if you prepared a distro for eee specifically [10:55] olgem: xubuntu is big partly because it has to work out of the box on most hardware out there [10:56] TheSheep, I suppose, what would you go about removing to save maybe a gigabyte off the default install? [10:57] olgem: it's not so easy, as the parts you want to remove are often included in packages you want to stay [10:58] olgem: if I wanted to make a lean and mean system, I would pick something that lets me customize it heavily without too much breaking [10:58] olgem: a different distro, obviously [10:58] I would use a debian netinstall [10:59] olgem: well, xubuntu basically uses debian packages, so not much gain here [11:00] but if you don't want to play and customize too much, xubuntu offers a nice balance of features vs. lightness [11:00] It uses the debian packaging format and system, but it doesn't use debian's repositories or anything, in fact a lot of the packages are incompatible with each other. Debian Netinstall just install a command line system, you apt-get everything else, even xorg and wm [11:00] and a wm* [11:00] olgem: at the beginning of every release cycle they synchronize ubuntu repos with debian [11:01] TheSheep: only to a degree [11:01] TheSheep, I didn't know that, or maybe I did. [11:01] olgem: then they do their own modifications, and add ubuntu-specific packages [11:01] Don't they sync with Sid? [11:01] and: they base it on sid [11:01] TheSheep: the longer ubuntu exists, the more they diverge [11:02] hm, got a problem with the sound card on my X31, http://pastebin.com/d26945163 there's all the relevant information - it's not being picked up by asound but the modules appear to have loaded. Any ideas? [11:02] TheSheep, you're right though. xubuntu is just fine and will fit in the pc I want to get. [11:03] naxxtor, they have a dedicated channel for #alsa [11:03] Probably a better bet to ask there [11:03] hmm, i suppose so [11:04] seems like it migt be an ubuntu related problem, since i've seen sound work just fine on debian with similar configuration [11:05] Have you seen others running ubuntu and the same machine with this problem? [11:07] "To install Xubuntu, you need 1.5 GB of free space on your hard disk." [11:07] Hmmm, I guess I'll just have to see. Some report 3GB, this says 1.5. [11:08] naxxtor: forums and bugtracker might contain some solutions [11:08] naxxtor: just search for your card chipset there [11:09] olgem, my xubuntu install uses just 3 gb, and thats with a lot of extra stuff installed, so yeah it should be a lot less for a fresh install [11:10] ablomen, thanks for the info. [11:10] TheSheep: i'm searching away but finding very little of use :( [11:11] naxxtor: you can try posting a question or bug report too, if there is nothing similar already [11:15] there are similar things on the forums but with wrong solutions [11:16] e.g. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249627 [11:16] how could something be blocking the sound card if it's not been detected? [11:17] naxxtor: checked your dmesg? [11:17] naxxtor: maybe some module fails to load? [11:17] yep, checked dmesg [11:18] naxxtor: do you know which module should be used for that sound card? you could try loading it manually with modprobe [11:18] it should be snd_intel8x0 [11:18] which *appears* to be loaded [11:19] snd_intel8x0 35376 1 [11:19] naxxtor: try unloading it and loading again maybe [11:19] unload with rmmod [11:19] i can't, it's in use [11:20] so the sound card is not detected, but it's in use? %) [11:20] apparently! [11:20] i'll try forcing it [11:21] gaaah [11:21] ERROR: Removing 'snd_intel8x0': Device or resource busy [11:22] you could also try asking on #ubuntu, this part is common [11:23] i did, but i got no response [11:29] oh, look, here's the exact same problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=865060 [11:29] but i'm not swapping distros like a kid with ADD [11:36] naxxtor: it's a thinkpad? you might want to also check the thinkwiki then [11:39] TheSheep: yeah, it is a thinkpad, and i have checked the thinkwiki [11:39] and it doens't seem to have anything useful [11:40] naxxtor: then I'm out of advices [11:41] i'm stracing modprobe and trying to work out why it's hanging >_< [12:03] Hello all [12:07] I am trying to make a persistent USB version of xubuntu using my xubuntu laptop but when I come to mount I type mount -o loop -tiso9660 xubuntu*.iso /cdrom but I have no cdrom drive and I get a error message saying cdrom does not exist. Is there somthing I can type in insted of cdrom? [12:07] adamw9678, you can use another directory you created [12:07] But it needs to exist [12:08] I'd use something like /tmp/iso [12:08] OK, using the terminal how would I create a directory that I can use? [12:08] mkdir /tmp/iso [12:09] Thanks [12:09] np :) [12:44] Hi all. Has anyone tried to install Xubuntu without a CD, using the netboot stuff, similar to how Ubuntu can be done? [12:45] .. or does anyone know if it CAN be done. I cannot find any netboot.tar.gz for Xubuntu... so far. [12:46] yes [12:46] i did it last night :) [12:46] DavidTangye, I believe it *can* be done but I haven't tried it [12:46] Ah :) [12:47] you need the alternate ISO [12:47] it's in /install/netboot [12:47] Oh... I have the alt iso... brb. [12:47] (you should find pxelinux.0 and pxelinux.cfg in there, just copy both of them to your tftp directory) [12:47] DavidTangye: you just install a minimal ubuntu and then install xubuntu-desktop on it [12:49] TheSheep: Yes. I have done it that way too before. [12:49] xubuntu is really no different to ubuntu except it has xubuntu-desktop package intead of ubuntu-desktop :p [12:50] TheSheep: ... this time I want to install Xubuntu distro. There might be a slight difference at later distro upgrade times. [12:50] It should be, but I am not entirely sure that is true. [12:50] i believe that the netboot images are identical, except the installer has the option to install xubuntu-desktop when you select your packages [12:51] OK, I am about to find out. Thanks a lot for the help. [12:51] i can tar up the netboot image i used last night if you like, but it's on the ISO :) [12:51] yes it shave it thanks. i just didn't see it :-) [12:52] .. I have it [12:53] wow, i was useful :p [12:53] ^.^ [13:27] Hi again. Xubuntu installation is running smoothly from a netboot setup. No CDs burnt here :-). [13:29] DavidTangye, yay! :) [13:31] awesome :) [13:31] the only problem i had with netboot was that things were taking an age to download - and i put that down to the evil ISP i'm using currently [13:45] naxxtor: At least once the iso is down, you can reuse it during each netbooted install. [13:47] Install failed: old PC, kernel package install failed. Back to Plan A: install std ubuntu without a desktop, then add Xubuntu desktop package, like I did 6 months ago. [13:48] .. Oh well, it was worth a try. === totalwor1age is now known as totalwormage [14:52] Hi there! I tried to integrate an icon theme (GNOME-colors from gnome-look) but it's just "half-working". After activating it folders and some system icons are properly "skinned", but all files (*.tar.gz, *.conf, etc.) just use the standard-thunar icon. [15:35] need help!what prog do i use to add videos to my ipod nano [16:47] a deep & meaningful question: what is the default display manager on xubuntu, and what would people suggest for a minimal spec one... [16:48] xdm [16:49] mthe, gdm is the default [16:49] ty vinnl [16:49] wols_ I will have to learn how to configure that one;) [16:50] vinnl: we are talking xubuntu [16:50] gdm is the DM for ubuntu, not for xubuntu [16:50] wols_, yeah, gdm is Xubuntu's default [16:51] wols_, see http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cdimage-xubuntu/releases/8.04/release/xubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.manifest and search for gdm [16:54] ak === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [17:56] Is aMSN supposed to be with no sound? Installed aMSN cause i liked the design. But it seems to be without any sound... No other programs is without sound. So i guess my soundcard/setting is working [17:58] RandyboY, it's been a while since I used that (it's ugly, I like emesene better), but I believe it is [17:58] Though then again, it might not be, you might try setting a sound system in the preferences [18:00] vinnl, but i havent touched any settings to mute the program.. Ive tried to set it to _make_ sounds on different happenings [18:00] RandyboY, it might be some PulseAudio stuff or something, but I'm really not at home in sound settings [18:00] I'd say: play around with the settings and see if it starts working ;-) [18:02] vinnl, ive done that, and me asking here is last try :-) Ive installed emesene now, and logged in, but my contacts isnt transfered? [18:02] Hmm, that's odd [18:04] mh, yeah.. Rahter annoying actually :) But i agree, liked the design on that one too... (I'm a converted windows-user and it looks alot like MSN ;-)) [18:05] It does :) [18:05] In fact, the developers of emesene are going to work together with the aMSN developers and create aMSN2 :) [18:05] Anyway, dinnertime [18:06] Good luck, bye :) === hfsdo_ is now known as hfsdo [18:58] salve [18:58] cerco un aituto [18:58] aiuto [18:59] x connessione ad internet con xubuntu [19:00] c'è chi puo aiutarmi? [19:05] Hello ! cant thunar browse shared directories ? === neozen-work is now known as neozen [19:31] Anyone here familiar with pidgin? Is there any way to close chat-windows with esc-button? [20:38] hello. at boot time im getting this error: Intel rng:FWH not found. and its taking to long to boot.. it seems i dont need it.. how can i delete it [20:44] hello. at boot time im getting this error: Intel rng:FWH not found. and its taking to long to boot.. it seems i dont need it.. how can i delete it [21:03] hi [21:31] heya guys [21:31] you guys go the xorg update/ [21:31] ? [21:35] thanks [21:50] I am running Xubuntu on an old Pentium III. The other day, something happened, and I lost the menu panel and tray. Don't know what happened. How can I get the panel back? [21:52] why do programs on xubuntu seem to have so many issues? [21:52] nobody home? [21:52] huh... [21:55] anybody here? [21:55] I'm here [21:59] I have lost the panel under Xfce4. Any ideas on how to get it back (permanently)? [22:00] start it with xfce4-panel [22:05] I'll try that. [22:07] the panel runs with the command xfce4-panel, but disappears once the terminal is closed. Is there some way to put that command in a file?? [22:08] xfce4-autostart-editor [22:09] I'll try that. [22:10] Must log out now and restart my desktop [22:10] + should give you a run command prompt [22:10] if you need it [22:10] Thanks. [22:45] Anyone here? I have a problem. I have an i810 integrated Intel graphics chip on this laptop, and I tried using the Intel graphics driver. It crapped out and I uninstalled it and went back to the i810 driver, but I can't get it to work and I'm still stuck in low graphics mode. [22:49] I know I can install kde using apt-get but I actually have a kubuntu CD can I use it to install kde [22:50] what? [22:50] you have a running ubuntu install on which you want kde? [22:51] or do you want a fresh ubuntu + kde install? [22:51] I have xubuntu 8.04 and I want to install kde [22:52] you can just install kde alongside xfce [22:52] I know [22:52] then what is the question :P [22:52] i want to install it from kubuntu cd is this possible ?? [22:53] kubuntu comes standard with kde (hence the k ...) [22:53] you mean you don't have an internetconnection or something? [22:54] I have internet connection [22:54] but I want to install the kde from CD is it possible [22:54] yes [22:55] how ? [22:55] you can add the cd as a repository [22:56] but i guess you'll have to temporarily block out the online repo's before apt'll use the cd [22:56] and from synaptic package manager search for kubuntu-desktop ... is this the solution [22:56] ok [22:56] yes [22:56] Thanks a lot [22:57] :) [22:57] but i don't understand why you want this :P [22:57] I really get uncomfortable with xfc [22:58] and I have slow internet connection [22:58] ahhhh [22:58] yes, it's a matter of taste :P [22:58] i'm running awesome at the moment :D [22:58] really freaky [22:59] I used kde a lot and I just like it [22:59] you've seen kde4? [23:00] not yet [23:00] i got it running for 10 secs, lol [23:00] lol [23:00] it's probably more stable now :P [23:00] so,you like xfc more [23:01] i like xfce more then kde, but i'm not running xfce, i ran openbox for a while [23:01] now awesome [23:02] you run it alongside xfc ? [23:02] no, got rid of that a while ago :P [23:03] * totalwormage 's not running ubuntu either, lol [23:03] lol [23:03] so my ties to this channel are slim hehe [23:04] so strange O_o [23:04] :] [23:05] gtg [23:05] it was nice talking to you [23:05] * totalwormage kicks ubottu [23:05] stay online! [23:16] sorry [23:17] np :P [23:17] * totalwormage is already pleased that ubottu doesn't do the same anymore :P [23:41] bunghole! [23:41] oops