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[03:37] <cellfish> hey guys, i'm using xubuntu 8.04 and right now, when i double-click on an image file, it loads gimp. where can i change the default applications for images?
[05:34] <sol1dus> how do i change permssions for automounted usb devices?
[05:34] <sol1dus> is this a udev thing?
[05:38] <sol1dus> anyone alivE?
[06:07] <luis> hi there, good night, everybody i like to ask 4 ur help pls
[06:08] <luis> i need to save some files to carry on with me on a usb memory stick, but my xubuntu just dont detect it, can youguys help me to fix it pls?
[06:08] <murlidhar> luis: can u see ur stick in the file manager?
[06:09] <luis> no
[06:10] <murlidhar> probably need to change ur fstab which i am not sure i can help u but somebody will surely help u .
[06:10] <luis> do i need to install something on konsole?
[06:11] <luis> i dont even know what a fstab is that is new for me
[06:11] <murlidhar> luis: probably but u need to but would be fairly easy
[06:12] <murlidhar> steps
[06:13] <luis> iam not sure i understood what you said
[06:13] <murlidhar> infact searching applications from ur console is easier than searching from synaptic
[06:13] <luis> ok
[06:13] <luis> so how do i look or what should i write down on my konsole?
[06:14] <murlidhar> open console
[06:14] <luis> done
[06:14] <murlidhar> now type usbpci
[06:15] <murlidhar> do u see ur stick there ?
[06:15] <murlidhar> Myrtti: in #ubuntu-offtopic ??
[06:15] <luis> here is what it appeared: usbpci: command not found
[06:16] <murlidhar> oops
[06:16] <murlidhar> wait a sec
[06:16] <murlidhar> lsbusb might be the one
[06:16] <murlidhar> type lsbusb
[06:16] <murlidhar> no lsusb
[06:17] <luis> appeared as follow:
[06:17] <luis> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[06:17] <luis> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 07b2:5100 Motorola BCS, Inc. SurfBoard SB5100 Cable Modem
[06:17] <luis> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[06:17] <luis> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[06:18] <murlidhar> what is the name of ur stick/
[06:19] <luis> look i just input the stick and did that and appears the next:
[06:19] <luis> Bus 003 Device 011: ID 1111:e20b Pandora International Ltd.
[06:19] <luis> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[06:19] <luis> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 07b2:5100 Motorola BCS, Inc. SurfBoard SB5100 Cable Modem
[06:19] <luis> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[06:19] <luis> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[06:19] <luis> so i think it might be the pandora one right?
[06:20] <murlidhar> yes so ur computer is recognizing the stick
[06:20] <luis> but when i try to save the files that i need it just dont give the option to save it on the stick
[06:21] <murlidhar> luis: wait a second
[06:26] <murlidhar> luis which file manager do u use ?
[06:26] <luis> that is very good question how do i find out pls i am kindda new on this
[06:32] <murlidha1> luis: sorry i got disconnected
[06:33] <luis> look the only thing i c about that question is sometyhing that came along when i install xubuntu and is call: Thuna File Manager
[06:33] <murlidha1> open it
[06:34] <luis> done
[06:34] <murlidha1> open the options
[06:34] <murlidha1> look in edit menu
[06:34] <murlidha1> u will find it
[06:35] <luis> no
[06:35] <luis> theres no such thing
[06:35] <murlidha1> preferences?
[06:36] <murlidha1> Myrtti: u there?
[06:36] <murlidha1> jussi01: ?
[06:36] <luis> on preferences theres just display
[06:36] <luis> side pane
[06:36] <murlidha1> hmm
[06:36] <luis> behavior
[06:36] <luis> and advance
[06:37] <luis> and none of them has memory stick options or usb
[06:38] <murlidha1> u still in #ubuntu channel?
[06:38] <luis> me??
[06:38] <luis> i m here in xubuntu
[07:03] <Guest82671> Hi!  Everytime I upgrade from 6.06 to 8.04 I get  a busybox v1.1.13 error and it drops me to a shell has anyone seen this before?
[09:05] <lokuaz> hello
[09:06] <lokuaz> for some reason today my wireless stop working... i already enable the madwifi again, and its not working, i dont understand what its going on
[09:07] <lokuaz> any idea?
[09:08] <adamw9678> Hi all. What the best way to run a exe file in xubuntu?
[09:14] <[Miles]> hi
[09:15] <TheSheep> adamw9678: either using dosbox or wine, depending if it's a dos program or w indows program
[09:18] <adamw9678> It's a exe file contaning windows drivers
[09:19] <TheSheep> windows drivers usually won't work on linux, definitely not when simply installed from and exe file
[09:20] <TheSheep> there are some hacks to use firmware from windows drivers for some hardware, but it's a little more comlicated
[09:23] <adamw9678> if i could locate the .inf for the device - would i be able rto run it in ndiswrapper?
[09:31] <TheSheep> I'm not sure, I'm poor with ndiswrapper, I guess it depends on the device
[10:46] <olgem> I looked some, but is there a list of default applications packaged with xubuntu? Last time I tried xubuntu it was using VLC by default, which I very much enjoyed, but it seems that totem has replaced it? Its not really an big issue, I can install it myself.
[10:47] <TheSheep> olgem: that's impossible, xubuntu never used vlc by default, simply because vlc cannot be shipped with it
[10:47] <TheSheep> olgem: due to some copyright/patent silliness
[10:48] <olgem> Yeah, strange. I'm probably remembering incorrectly, I thought it just seperated out ffmpeg and prompted you to install the restricted-formats when you tried to play one with vlc.
[10:48] <olgem> That wouldn't happen, though.
[10:48] <TheSheep> olgem: as far as I know, only totem has this prompting currently
[10:48] <olgem> I see the tour shows some of the applications.
[10:48] <olgem> TheSheep, thanks.
[10:50] <olgem> I hear xubuntu runs nicely with the Asus Eee - taking up only 3G or so after install. Xubuntu seems like a good choice over installing netbook-specific spins of various distros.
[10:52] <TheSheep> olgem: I think that 3GB is still a lot
[10:52] <TheSheep> olgem: but xubuntu never really aimed to be small
[10:52] <olgem> TheSheep, maybe so, what does xubuntu typically take up after a fresh install?
[10:53] <TheSheep> olgem: I think 3GB is about right
[10:53] <TheSheep> olgem: but it would be possible to shave a lot of it if you prepared a distro for eee specifically
[10:55] <TheSheep> olgem: xubuntu is big partly because it has to work out of the box on most hardware out there
[10:56] <olgem> TheSheep, I suppose, what would you go about removing to save maybe a gigabyte off the default install?
[10:57] <TheSheep> olgem: it's not so easy, as the parts you want to remove are often included in packages you want to stay
[10:58] <TheSheep> olgem: if I wanted to make a lean and mean system, I would pick something that lets me customize it heavily without too much breaking
[10:58] <TheSheep> olgem: a different distro, obviously
[10:58] <olgem> I would use a debian netinstall
[10:59] <TheSheep> olgem: well, xubuntu basically uses debian packages, so not much gain here
[11:00] <TheSheep> but if you don't want to play and customize too much, xubuntu offers a nice balance of features vs. lightness
[11:00] <olgem> It uses the debian packaging format and system, but it doesn't use debian's repositories or anything, in fact a lot of the packages are incompatible with each other. Debian Netinstall just install a command line system, you apt-get everything else, even xorg and wm
[11:00] <olgem> and a wm*
[11:00] <TheSheep> olgem: at the beginning of every release cycle they synchronize ubuntu repos with debian
[11:01] <wols_> TheSheep: only to a degree
[11:01] <olgem> TheSheep, I didn't know that, or maybe I did.
[11:01] <TheSheep> olgem: then they do their own modifications, and add ubuntu-specific packages
[11:01] <olgem> Don't they sync with Sid?
[11:01] <wols_> and: they base it on sid
[11:01] <wols_> TheSheep: the longer ubuntu exists, the more they diverge
[11:02] <naxxtor> hm, got a problem with the sound card on my X31, http://pastebin.com/d26945163 there's all the relevant information - it's not being picked up by asound but the modules appear to have loaded.  Any ideas?
[11:02] <olgem> TheSheep, you're right though. xubuntu is just fine and will fit in the pc I want to get.
[11:03] <olgem> naxxtor, they have a dedicated channel for #alsa
[11:03] <olgem> Probably a better bet to ask there
[11:03] <naxxtor> hmm, i suppose so
[11:04] <naxxtor> seems like it migt be an ubuntu related problem, since i've seen sound work just fine on debian with similar configuration
[11:05] <olgem> Have you seen others running ubuntu and the same machine with this problem?
[11:07] <olgem> "To install Xubuntu, you need 1.5 GB of free space on your hard disk."
[11:07] <olgem> Hmmm, I guess I'll just have to see. Some report 3GB, this says 1.5.
[11:08] <TheSheep> naxxtor: forums and bugtracker might contain some solutions
[11:08] <TheSheep> naxxtor: just search for your card chipset there
[11:09] <ablomen> olgem, my xubuntu install uses just 3 gb, and thats with a lot of extra stuff installed, so yeah it should be a lot less for a fresh install
[11:10] <olgem> ablomen, thanks for the info.
[11:10] <naxxtor> TheSheep: i'm searching away but finding very little of use :(
[11:11] <TheSheep> naxxtor: you can try posting a question or bug report too, if there is nothing similar already
[11:15] <naxxtor> there are similar things on the forums but with wrong solutions
[11:16] <naxxtor> e.g. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=249627
[11:16] <naxxtor> how could something be blocking the sound card if it's not been detected?
[11:17] <TheSheep> naxxtor: checked your dmesg?
[11:17] <TheSheep> naxxtor: maybe some module fails to load?
[11:17] <naxxtor> yep, checked dmesg
[11:18] <TheSheep> naxxtor: do you know which module should be used for that sound card? you could try loading it manually with modprobe
[11:18] <naxxtor> it should be snd_intel8x0
[11:18] <naxxtor> which *appears* to be loaded
[11:19] <naxxtor> snd_intel8x0           35376  1
[11:19] <TheSheep> naxxtor: try unloading it and loading again maybe
[11:19] <TheSheep> unload with rmmod
[11:19] <naxxtor> i can't, it's in use
[11:20] <TheSheep> so the sound card is not detected, but it's in use? %)
[11:20] <naxxtor> apparently!
[11:20] <naxxtor> i'll try forcing it
[11:21] <naxxtor> gaaah
[11:21] <naxxtor> ERROR: Removing 'snd_intel8x0': Device or resource busy
[11:22] <TheSheep> you could also try asking on #ubuntu, this part is common
[11:23] <naxxtor> i did, but i got no response
[11:29] <naxxtor> oh, look, here's the exact same problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=865060
[11:29] <naxxtor> but i'm not swapping distros like a kid with ADD
[11:36] <TheSheep> naxxtor: it's a thinkpad? you might want to also check the thinkwiki then
[11:39] <naxxtor> TheSheep: yeah, it is a thinkpad, and i have checked the thinkwiki
[11:39] <naxxtor> and it doens't seem to have anything useful
[11:40] <TheSheep> naxxtor: then I'm out of advices
[11:41] <naxxtor> i'm stracing modprobe and trying to work out why it's hanging >_<
[12:03] <adamw9678> Hello all
[12:07] <adamw9678> I am trying to make a persistent USB version of xubuntu using my xubuntu laptop but when I come to mount I type  mount -o loop -tiso9660 xubuntu*.iso /cdrom  but I have no cdrom drive and I get a error message saying cdrom does not exist. Is there somthing I can type in insted of cdrom?
[12:07] <vinnl> adamw9678, you can use another directory you created
[12:07] <vinnl> But it needs to exist
[12:08] <vinnl> I'd use something like /tmp/iso
[12:08] <adamw9678> OK, using the terminal how would I create a directory that I can use?
[12:08] <vinnl> mkdir /tmp/iso
[12:09] <adamw9678> Thanks
[12:09] <vinnl> np :)
[12:44] <DavidTangye> Hi all. Has anyone tried to install Xubuntu without a CD, using the netboot stuff, similar to how Ubuntu can be done?
[12:45] <DavidTangye> .. or does anyone know if it CAN be done. I cannot find any netboot.tar.gz for Xubuntu... so far.
[12:46] <naxxtor> yes
[12:46] <naxxtor> i did it last night :)
[12:46] <vinnl> DavidTangye, I believe it *can* be done but I haven't tried it
[12:46] <vinnl> Ah :)
[12:47] <naxxtor> you need the alternate ISO
[12:47] <naxxtor> it's in /install/netboot
[12:47] <DavidTangye> Oh... I have the alt iso... brb.
[12:47] <naxxtor> (you should find pxelinux.0 and pxelinux.cfg in there, just copy both of them to your tftp directory)
[12:47] <TheSheep> DavidTangye: you just install a minimal ubuntu and then install xubuntu-desktop on it
[12:49] <DavidTangye> TheSheep: Yes. I have done it that way too before.
[12:49] <naxxtor> xubuntu is really no different to ubuntu except it has xubuntu-desktop package intead of ubuntu-desktop :p
[12:50] <DavidTangye> TheSheep: ... this time I want to install Xubuntu distro. There might be a slight difference at later distro upgrade times.
[12:50] <DavidTangye> It should be, but I am not entirely sure that is true.
[12:50] <naxxtor> i believe that the netboot images are identical, except the installer has the option to install xubuntu-desktop when you select your packages
[12:51] <DavidTangye> OK, I am about to find out. Thanks a lot for the help.
[12:51] <naxxtor> i can tar up the netboot image i used last night if you like, but it's on the ISO :)
[12:51] <DavidTangye> yes it shave it thanks. i just didn't see it :-)
[12:52] <DavidTangye> .. I have it
[12:53] <naxxtor> wow, i was useful :p
[12:53] <vinnl> ^.^
[13:27] <DavidTangye> Hi again. Xubuntu installation is running smoothly from a netboot setup. No CDs burnt here :-).
[13:29] <vinnl> DavidTangye, yay! :)
[13:31] <naxxtor> awesome :)
[13:31] <naxxtor> the only problem i had with netboot was that things were taking an age to download - and i put that down to the evil ISP i'm using currently
[13:45] <DavidTangye> naxxtor: At least once the iso is down, you can reuse it during each netbooted install.
[13:47] <DavidTangye> Install failed: old PC, kernel package install failed. Back to Plan A: install std ubuntu without a desktop, then add Xubuntu desktop package, like I did 6 months ago.
[13:48] <DavidTangye> .. Oh well, it was worth a try.
[14:52] <yahzuki> Hi there! I tried to integrate an icon theme (GNOME-colors from gnome-look) but it's just "half-working". After activating it folders and some system icons are properly "skinned", but all files (*.tar.gz, *.conf, etc.) just use the standard-thunar icon.
[15:35] <shane_> need help!what prog do i use to add videos to my ipod nano
[16:47] <mthe> a deep & meaningful question: what is the default display manager on xubuntu, and what would people suggest for a minimal spec one...
[16:48] <wols_> xdm
[16:49] <vinnl> mthe, gdm is the default
[16:49] <mthe> ty vinnl
[16:49] <mthe> wols_ I will have to learn how to configure that one;)
[16:50] <wols_> vinnl: we are talking xubuntu
[16:50] <wols_> gdm is the DM for ubuntu, not for xubuntu
[16:50] <vinnl> wols_, yeah, gdm is Xubuntu's default
[16:51] <vinnl> wols_, see http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cdimage-xubuntu/releases/8.04/release/xubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.manifest and search for gdm
[16:54] <wols_> ak
[17:56] <RandyboY> Is aMSN supposed to be with no sound? Installed aMSN cause i liked the design. But it seems to be without any sound... No other programs is without sound. So i guess my soundcard/setting is working
[17:58] <vinnl> RandyboY, it's been a while since I used that (it's ugly, I like emesene better), but I believe it is
[17:58] <vinnl> Though then again, it might not be, you might try setting a sound system in the preferences
[18:00] <RandyboY> vinnl, but i havent touched any settings to mute the program.. Ive tried to set it to _make_ sounds on different happenings
[18:00] <vinnl> RandyboY, it might be some PulseAudio stuff or something, but I'm really not at home in sound settings
[18:00] <vinnl> I'd say: play around with the settings and see if it starts working ;-)
[18:02] <RandyboY> vinnl, ive done that, and me asking here is last try :-) Ive installed emesene now, and logged in, but my contacts isnt transfered?
[18:02] <vinnl> Hmm, that's odd
[18:04] <RandyboY> mh, yeah.. Rahter annoying actually :) But i agree, liked the design on that one too... (I'm a converted windows-user and it looks alot like MSN ;-))
[18:05] <vinnl> It does :)
[18:05] <vinnl> In fact, the developers of emesene are going to work together with the aMSN developers and create aMSN2 :)
[18:05] <vinnl> Anyway, dinnertime
[18:06] <vinnl> Good luck, bye :)
[18:58] <viktor> salve
[18:58] <viktor> cerco un aituto
[18:58] <viktor> aiuto
[18:59] <viktor> x connessione ad internet con xubuntu
[19:00] <viktor> c'è chi puo aiutarmi?
[19:05] <jokoon> Hello ! cant thunar browse shared directories ?
[19:31] <RandyboY> Anyone here familiar with pidgin? Is there any way to close chat-windows with esc-button?
[20:38] <kekokiko> hello. at boot time im getting this error: Intel rng:FWH not found. and its taking to long to boot.. it seems i dont need it.. how can i delete it
[20:44] <kekokiko> hello. at boot time im getting this error: Intel rng:FWH not found. and its taking to long to boot.. it seems i dont need it.. how can i delete it
[21:03] <slow-motion> hi
[21:31] <neur1> heya guys
[21:31] <neur1> you guys go the xorg update/
[21:31] <neur1> ?
[21:35] <neur1> thanks
[21:50] <frodo> I am running Xubuntu on an old Pentium III. The other day, something happened, and I lost the menu panel and tray. Don't know what happened. How can I get the panel back?
[21:52] <pjvandehaar> why do programs on xubuntu seem to have so many issues?
[21:52] <pjvandehaar> nobody home?
[21:52] <pjvandehaar> huh...
[21:55] <pjvandehaar> anybody here?
[21:55] <frodo> I'm here
[21:59] <frodo> I have lost the panel under Xfce4. Any ideas on how to get it back (permanently)?
[22:00] <siggjen> start it with xfce4-panel
[22:05] <frodo> I'll try that.
[22:07] <frodo> the panel runs with the command xfce4-panel, but disappears once the terminal is closed. Is there some way to put that command in a file??
[22:08] <siggjen> xfce4-autostart-editor
[22:09] <frodo> I'll try that.
[22:10] <frodo> Must log out now and restart my desktop
 + <f2> should give you a run command prompt
[22:10] <siggjen> if you need it
[22:10] <frodo> Thanks.
[22:45] <red> Anyone here?  I have a problem.  I have an i810 integrated Intel graphics chip on this laptop, and I tried using the Intel graphics driver.  It crapped out and I uninstalled it and went back to the i810 driver, but I can't get it to work and I'm still stuck in low graphics mode.
[22:49] <ihab> I know I can install kde using apt-get but I actually have a kubuntu CD can I use it to install kde
[22:50] <totalwormage> what?
[22:50] <totalwormage> you have a running ubuntu install on which you want kde?
[22:51] <totalwormage> or do you want a fresh ubuntu + kde install?
[22:51] <ihab> I have xubuntu 8.04 and I want to install kde
[22:52] <totalwormage> you can just install kde alongside xfce
[22:52] <ihab> I know
[22:52] <totalwormage> then what is the question :P
[22:52] <ihab> i want to install it from kubuntu cd is this possible ??
[22:53] <totalwormage> kubuntu comes standard with kde (hence the k ...)
[22:53] <totalwormage> you mean you don't have an internetconnection or something?
[22:54] <ihab> I have internet connection
[22:54] <ihab> but I want to install the kde from CD is it possible
[22:54] <totalwormage> yes
[22:55] <ihab> how ?
[22:55] <totalwormage> you can add the cd as a repository
[22:56] <totalwormage> but i guess you'll have to temporarily block out the online repo's before apt'll use the cd
[22:56] <ihab> and from synaptic package manager search for kubuntu-desktop ... is this the solution
[22:56] <ihab> ok
[22:56] <totalwormage> yes
[22:56] <ihab> Thanks a lot
[22:57] <ihab> :)
[22:57] <totalwormage> but i don't understand why you want this :P
[22:57] <ihab> I really get uncomfortable with xfc
[22:58] <ihab> and I have slow internet connection
[22:58] <totalwormage> ahhhh
[22:58] <totalwormage> yes, it's a matter of taste :P
[22:58] <totalwormage> i'm running awesome at the moment :D
[22:58] <totalwormage> really freaky
[22:59] <ihab> I used kde a lot and I just like it
[22:59] <totalwormage> you've seen kde4?
[23:00] <ihab> not yet
[23:00] <totalwormage> i got it running for 10 secs, lol
[23:00] <ihab> lol
[23:00] <totalwormage> it's probably more stable now :P
[23:00] <ihab> so,you like xfc more
[23:01] <totalwormage> i like xfce more then kde, but i'm not running xfce, i ran openbox for a while
[23:01] <totalwormage> now awesome
[23:02] <ihab> you run it alongside xfc ?
[23:02] <totalwormage> no, got rid of that a while ago :P
[23:03]  * totalwormage 's not running ubuntu either, lol
[23:03] <ihab> lol
[23:03] <totalwormage> so my ties to this channel are slim hehe
[23:04] <ihab> so strange O_o
[23:04] <totalwormage> :]
[23:05] <ihab> gtg
[23:05] <ihab> it was nice talking to you
[23:05]  * totalwormage kicks ubottu 
[23:05] <totalwormage> stay online!
[23:16] <bassboi> sorry
[23:17] <totalwormage> np :P
[23:17]  * totalwormage is already pleased that ubottu doesn't do the same anymore :P
[23:41] <n00b> bunghole!
[23:41] <n00b> oops