| josephnexus | hello everyone! | 03:33 |
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| josephnexus | i'm trying to set up ltsp and all that my thin clients get when trying to boot is File Not Found | 03:34 |
| josephnexus | i can connect locally using a tftp client | 03:34 |
| josephnexus | but for some reason none of my clients can connect | 03:34 |
| josephnexus | they do get a dhcp address | 03:34 |
| josephnexus | any ideas? | 03:34 |
| josephnexus | brb | 03:35 |
| josephnexus | back | 03:38 |
| josephnexus | anyone get any ideas about my problem? | 03:38 |
| josephnexus | gonna try chaning my interfaces | 03:41 |
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| === juliux_ is now known as Guest47928 | ||
| wima | i'm noticing some problems with local devices lately | 18:10 |
| wima | devices are not mounted anymore when i plug them in | 18:10 |
| wima | on the old server everything worked fine | 18:11 |
| wima | i used udev to change permissions on /dev/fuse so i didnt have to add all users to the fuse group | 18:11 |
| wima | (users are in an ldap db) | 18:12 |
| wima | it used to work fine | 18:12 |
| wima | installed a new server, and it doesn't work anymore | 18:12 |
| wima | does anyone have an idea? | 18:12 |
| wima | id i add the user to the fuse group, it works | 18:13 |
| ogra | the mounting tool is suid fuse iirc (was changed because users tended to change permissions of the devcie which introduced security holes :) ) | 18:20 |
| wima | ah | 18:21 |
| wima | is there anything i can do about it? | 18:21 |
| wima | i'm not really looking forward to putting all the ldap users in the fuse group | 18:22 |
| ogra | have a look at /bin/fusermount | 18:22 |
| wima | -rwsr-xr-- root fuse | 18:23 |
| wima | what does this mean? | 18:24 |
| wima | hat it will alwaus execute as root? | 18:24 |
| ogra | no | 18:25 |
| ogra | that it has a stick group bit set | 18:26 |
| ogra | so it will always execute as group fuse | 18:26 |
| wima | right | 18:26 |
| wima | and why is this a problem? | 18:27 |
| wima | i meqn | 18:28 |
| wima | where is the permission problem | 18:28 |
| ogra | you need to be in eh fuse group | 18:29 |
| ogra | remove the sticky bit and change it to root.root | 18:29 |
| wima | ok | 18:30 |
| wima | thanks | 18:30 |
| wima | btw: is anyone considering doing something about this? | 18:30 |
| ogra | not me | 18:31 |
| * ogra wont break security and doesnt really care about misconfigured ldap setups | 18:31 | |
| wima | you would put the ldap users in the fuse group? | 18:32 |
| ogra | just have a script that adds users to the right group instead of ripping open security holes | 18:32 |
| wima | wasn't there a pam module to do this? | 18:32 |
| wima | ah. found it! | 18:41 |
| wima | pam_group | 18:41 |
| ogra | yeah, thats the one | 18:41 |
| ogra | way cleaner :) | 18:41 |
| wima | super | 18:42 |
| wima | thanks | 18:42 |
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| LaserJock | ogra: hi | 19:37 |
| LaserJock | ogra: how's it going over there? | 20:40 |
| ogra | LaserJock, busy | 20:41 |
| LaserJock | ogra: cmpc? | 20:41 |
| ogra | but at least i have released a classmate RC yesterday | 20:41 |
| LaserJock | oh, for intrepid? | 20:41 |
| ogra | cmpc, my move into mobile ... my older duties i try to get rid of etc | 20:41 |
| ogra | nope hardy | 20:41 |
| LaserJock | k | 20:41 |
| LaserJock | is it on p.u.c/~ogra/ ? | 20:42 |
| ogra | yep | 20:42 |
| LaserJock | k | 20:42 |
| ogra | usual place | 20:42 |
| LaserJock | I'll try it out today | 20:42 |
| ogra | focusing on the newer celeron devices though | 20:42 |
| LaserJock | oh, will it still work on mine? | 20:42 |
| ogra | but will still work on the old ones | 20:42 |
| LaserJock | k, cool | 20:42 |
| ogra | yeah, it should | 20:42 |
| LaserJock | anything happening much in Education Edition ? | 20:43 |
| LaserJock | I was looking at some bugs the other day | 20:43 |
| LaserJock | squeak problems that I don't want to get into ;-) | 20:43 |
| LaserJock | with openjdk in Main I suppose some Java edu apps might be possible to add? | 20:44 |
| ogra | yeah | 20:45 |
| ogra | even though i think openjdk doesnt ship the browser plugin yet | 20:45 |
| ogra | i'll look inot the suqeak ftbfs if i find any time | 20:45 |
| LaserJock | ogra: I found the problem, and it's apparently still the same code in squeak-vm SVN | 20:45 |
| ogra | but trying to draw back from edu without anyone taking over isnt so easy | 20:46 |
| ogra | so it sticks to me | 20:46 |
| ogra | and i dont want to be evil | 20:46 |
| LaserJock | ogra: they have write() without and error checking or return value checking | 20:46 |
| ogra | eeek | 20:46 |
| LaserJock | well, the actually do check later if the write worked | 20:46 |
| LaserJock | but not via the return value | 20:47 |
| ogra | i think the edubuntu CD doesnt look to good atm due to recommends not being sorted yet | 20:47 |
| LaserJock | so with our new CFLAGS it FTBFS | 20:47 |
| LaserJock | ogra: is it oversized? | 20:47 |
| ogra | yeah | 20:47 |
| ogra | lol | 20:47 |
| ogra | we have 400M free | 20:47 |
| LaserJock | oh | 20:47 |
| LaserJock | cool | 20:47 |
| ogra | no way to get that oversized quickly | 20:47 |
| LaserJock | have you looked at all at whether Recommends will pull in non-Main packages? | 20:48 |
| ogra | they do apparently | 20:48 |
| ogra | stgraber looked at it more than i this cycle | 20:49 |
| LaserJock | k | 20:49 |
| LaserJock | ogra: get anywhere on the dynamic menu GUI? :-) | 20:49 |
| ogra | no, i think i'll have to drop it | 20:50 |
| ogra | as well as willow | 20:50 |
| LaserJock | did you get a start? | 20:50 |
| ogra | the only thing i'll have time for is compcache which is 80% implemented | 20:50 |
| ogra | no, not really | 20:50 |
| LaserJock | k | 20:50 |
| ogra | i'm working 14h/day in the mobile team | 20:50 |
| ogra | all i do in edu or ltsp is totally in spare time | 20:51 |
| LaserJock | ok | 20:51 |
| LaserJock | so what is compcache going to do? | 20:51 |
| ogra | cut down the ram reqs for ltsp clients and the liveCD | 20:51 |
| ogra | and for things like classmate | 20:51 |
| LaserJock | oh, that'd be nice | 20:52 |
| ogra | it cretes a compressed swapdevice in the systems ram | 20:52 |
| ogra | so you can gain up to 1ยง more ram | 20:52 |
| ogra | 1/3 | 20:52 |
| LaserJock | huh | 20:52 |
| LaserJock | what does that do to performance? | 20:52 |
| ogra | impacts it slightly | 20:52 |
| ogra | but not so much that it would disturb | 20:53 |
| LaserJock | does the cost of compression get compensated for by having it in RAM? | 20:53 |
| ogra | well, it adds CPU overhead | 20:53 |
| ogra | but yes, its in ram so no disk IO involved | 20:54 |
| LaserJock | right, that's what I meant by "CPU" | 20:54 |
| LaserJock | arg | 20:54 |
| LaserJock | meant by "cost" | 20:54 |
| LaserJock | ogra: are Edubuntu meetings still being held? | 20:54 |
| ogra | not actively recently, no | 20:56 |
| ogra | stgraber pushes from time to time ... but think he gave up ... and we ended being only RichEd, him and me | 20:56 |
| ogra | but if there is no community interest what shall we do | 20:57 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 20:57 |
| LaserJock | I know what you mean | 20:57 |
| stgraber | yeah, I remember a time where edubuntu was a lot more active | 21:43 |
| ogra | yep | 21:44 |
| LaserJock | well, projects have cycles of activity too | 21:44 |
| LaserJock | I think edubuntu (or whatever it's being called) could get revived a bit :-) | 21:46 |
| ogra | yeah | 21:49 |
| stgraber | yeah, I think the main issue is that most of the community is still stuck at Edubuntu=Ubuntu+LTSP+edu softwares | 21:50 |
| stgraber | the move to an addon and ltsp to alternate wasn't that much understood | 21:50 |
| LaserJock | well | 21:50 |
| stgraber | at least that was the result of the 2-3 talks I gave about Edubuntu/LTSP/ubuntu education | 21:50 |
| LaserJock | I think a clear purpose, a clear mission, a clear Roadmap are helpful | 21:51 |
| LaserJock | there was definitely a shift of emphasis with LTSP moving out, but I'm not sure we really figured out what we wanted to with Ubuntu Education Edition | 21:52 |
| LaserJock | I'm gonna run home, bbiab | 21:53 |
| pmfranco | Hola Edubunteros | 22:51 |
| pmfranco | me pueden ayudar??? | 22:51 |
| pmfranco | necesito encontrar themes para mi edubuntu, por favor | 22:52 |
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