[03:33] hello everyone! [03:34] i'm trying to set up ltsp and all that my thin clients get when trying to boot is File Not Found [03:34] i can connect locally using a tftp client [03:34] but for some reason none of my clients can connect [03:34] they do get a dhcp address [03:34] any ideas? [03:35] brb [03:38] back [03:38] anyone get any ideas about my problem? [03:41] gonna try chaning my interfaces === freet15__ is now known as freet15 === juliux_ is now known as Guest47928 [18:10] i'm noticing some problems with local devices lately [18:10] devices are not mounted anymore when i plug them in [18:11] on the old server everything worked fine [18:11] i used udev to change permissions on /dev/fuse so i didnt have to add all users to the fuse group [18:12] (users are in an ldap db) [18:12] it used to work fine [18:12] installed a new server, and it doesn't work anymore [18:12] does anyone have an idea? [18:13] id i add the user to the fuse group, it works [18:20] the mounting tool is suid fuse iirc (was changed because users tended to change permissions of the devcie which introduced security holes :) ) [18:21] ah [18:21] is there anything i can do about it? [18:22] i'm not really looking forward to putting all the ldap users in the fuse group [18:22] have a look at /bin/fusermount [18:23] -rwsr-xr-- root fuse [18:24] what does this mean? [18:24] hat it will alwaus execute as root? [18:25] no [18:26] that it has a stick group bit set [18:26] so it will always execute as group fuse [18:26] right [18:27] and why is this a problem? [18:28] i meqn [18:28] where is the permission problem [18:29] you need to be in eh fuse group [18:29] remove the sticky bit and change it to root.root [18:30] ok [18:30] thanks [18:30] btw: is anyone considering doing something about this? [18:31] not me [18:31] * ogra wont break security and doesnt really care about misconfigured ldap setups [18:32] you would put the ldap users in the fuse group? [18:32] just have a script that adds users to the right group instead of ripping open security holes [18:32] wasn't there a pam module to do this? [18:41] ah. found it! [18:41] pam_group [18:41] yeah, thats the one [18:41] way cleaner :) [18:42] super [18:42] thanks === Guest47928 is now known as juliux [19:37] ogra: hi [20:40] ogra: how's it going over there? [20:41] LaserJock, busy [20:41] ogra: cmpc? [20:41] but at least i have released a classmate RC yesterday [20:41] oh, for intrepid? [20:41] cmpc, my move into mobile ... my older duties i try to get rid of etc [20:41] nope hardy [20:41] k [20:42] is it on p.u.c/~ogra/ ? [20:42] yep [20:42] k [20:42] usual place [20:42] I'll try it out today [20:42] focusing on the newer celeron devices though [20:42] oh, will it still work on mine? [20:42] but will still work on the old ones [20:42] k, cool [20:42] yeah, it should [20:43] anything happening much in Education Edition ? [20:43] I was looking at some bugs the other day [20:43] squeak problems that I don't want to get into ;-) [20:44] with openjdk in Main I suppose some Java edu apps might be possible to add? [20:45] yeah [20:45] even though i think openjdk doesnt ship the browser plugin yet [20:45] i'll look inot the suqeak ftbfs if i find any time [20:45] ogra: I found the problem, and it's apparently still the same code in squeak-vm SVN [20:46] but trying to draw back from edu without anyone taking over isnt so easy [20:46] so it sticks to me [20:46] and i dont want to be evil [20:46] ogra: they have write() without and error checking or return value checking [20:46] eeek [20:46] well, the actually do check later if the write worked [20:47] but not via the return value [20:47] i think the edubuntu CD doesnt look to good atm due to recommends not being sorted yet [20:47] so with our new CFLAGS it FTBFS [20:47] ogra: is it oversized? [20:47] yeah [20:47] lol [20:47] we have 400M free [20:47] oh [20:47] cool [20:47] no way to get that oversized quickly [20:48] have you looked at all at whether Recommends will pull in non-Main packages? [20:48] they do apparently [20:49] stgraber looked at it more than i this cycle [20:49] k [20:49] ogra: get anywhere on the dynamic menu GUI? :-) [20:50] no, i think i'll have to drop it [20:50] as well as willow [20:50] did you get a start? [20:50] the only thing i'll have time for is compcache which is 80% implemented [20:50] no, not really [20:50] k [20:50] i'm working 14h/day in the mobile team [20:51] all i do in edu or ltsp is totally in spare time [20:51] ok [20:51] so what is compcache going to do? [20:51] cut down the ram reqs for ltsp clients and the liveCD [20:51] and for things like classmate [20:52] oh, that'd be nice [20:52] it cretes a compressed swapdevice in the systems ram [20:52] so you can gain up to 1§ more ram [20:52] 1/3 [20:52] huh [20:52] what does that do to performance? [20:52] impacts it slightly [20:53] but not so much that it would disturb [20:53] does the cost of compression get compensated for by having it in RAM? [20:53] well, it adds CPU overhead [20:54] but yes, its in ram so no disk IO involved [20:54] right, that's what I meant by "CPU" [20:54] arg [20:54] meant by "cost" [20:54] ogra: are Edubuntu meetings still being held? [20:56] not actively recently, no [20:56] stgraber pushes from time to time ... but think he gave up ... and we ended being only RichEd, him and me [20:57] but if there is no community interest what shall we do [20:57] yeah [20:57] I know what you mean [21:43] yeah, I remember a time where edubuntu was a lot more active [21:44] yep [21:44] well, projects have cycles of activity too [21:46] I think edubuntu (or whatever it's being called) could get revived a bit :-) [21:49] yeah [21:50] yeah, I think the main issue is that most of the community is still stuck at Edubuntu=Ubuntu+LTSP+edu softwares [21:50] the move to an addon and ltsp to alternate wasn't that much understood [21:50] well [21:50] at least that was the result of the 2-3 talks I gave about Edubuntu/LTSP/ubuntu education [21:51] I think a clear purpose, a clear mission, a clear Roadmap are helpful [21:52] there was definitely a shift of emphasis with LTSP moving out, but I'm not sure we really figured out what we wanted to with Ubuntu Education Edition [21:53] I'm gonna run home, bbiab [22:51] Hola Edubunteros [22:51] me pueden ayudar??? [22:52] necesito encontrar themes para mi edubuntu, por favor