[00:02] <venik> can anyone remind me how to invoke CUPS from a browser?
[00:06] <venik> 127.0.0.1:631
[00:08] <seba_> i need a little help here
[00:10] <Kdesk> Is policykit integrated into Kde or Kubuntu?
[00:12] <alkholic> hello all
[00:13] <seba_> hi all
[00:13] <alkholic> sup ?
[00:25] <ZmAY> hello, i need some help with aMSN, its just stop working, cant log in
[00:33] <revolution> hoq can i put the video on my desktop with vlc media player?
[00:33] <revolution> how*
[00:34] <revolution> how can i have my video play on my desktop with vlc media player???
[00:36] <revolution> wtf, why isn't anyone help'n me out
[00:36] <revolution> ???
[01:01] <bluekb> I am wondering how to raise my maximum possible volume.  Despite maxing out volume on all channels, some DVD's and youtube videos are still a bit quiet.
[01:02] <Dr_willis> for dvds  - some players may have a audio plugin to
[01:02] <Dr_willis> amplify the audio even more.
[01:02] <Dr_willis> or some sort of 'audio balancing'  leveling feature
[01:03] <bluekb> Perhaps there are some alsa settings for volume multiplications...  I don't know how to find them.
[01:03] <bluekb> Dr_willis, which applications?  I use vlc, mplayer, xine, and kaffeine interchangeabl.
[01:03] <bluekb> *interchangeably
[01:03] <Dr_willis> I think ive seen it in vlc and mplayer. those are abut the only 2  i ever use.
[01:03] <Dr_willis> but i havent had to mess with sound in ages on the,
[01:04] <bluekb> Still...it'd be nice to have the master settings be a bit more sane.
[01:04] <bluekb> I wonder if it's just my sound card.
[01:08] <acornstar> hello!
[01:08] <acornstar> Is this the right place for some help?
[01:08] <Dr_willis> Depends on the problem. :)
[01:08] <bluekb> Yes, probably.  If not we will try to find the right place to ask the question
[01:08] <acornstar> Two problems...maybe they are easy, maybe not.
[01:09] <acornstar> First, I have ethernet connection, but I cant get my wireless to work.  I tried checking up online, but couldn't figure it out.  If you can help me on this, I would appreciate it.
[01:10] <acornstar> Apparently my card is enabled, but it doesnt find any networks.  I even installed my card drivers.
[01:10] <Dr_willis> Ive given up basicially on wireless. :) So i cant help ya there other then to say 'determine your specific chipset/card  and check the wiki/forums' heh.
[01:10] <acornstar> ok
[01:10] <Dr_willis> even on the laptop i got that wireless DOES work. i seem to ahve to fight with it to make it change networks.
[01:11] <acornstar> I'm only using hotspots and whatever is floating around me....
[01:11] <RG-NewGuy>  on a live cd you can boot and run from the cd without actually installing correct?
[01:12] <Dragnslcr> RG-NewGuy- correct
[01:12] <acornstar> where on the wiki does it have that info...
[01:13] <acornstar> nevermind...i found it
[01:15] <acornstar> my other concern is the touchpad.  I have a small vertical scroll section on the right side of my touch pad.  It works, but it also causes the mouse to click, which it didn't do in windows, and its quiet annoying....
[01:15] <acornstar> I added gsynaptics, but cant find it or figure out how to use it
[01:16] <JackWinter> how do i check which nvidia driver i have installed ?
[01:16] <helpy> i can't mount my cdrom any help ?
[01:16] <helpy> i get an error that UDF volume cannot be mounted
[01:16] <helpy> it was working fine some days ago, i don't know what went wrong
[01:17] <Dr_willis> acornstar,  the command is    gsynaptics  it seems...
[01:17] <acornstar> it says i have to set 'shmconfig' true?
[01:17] <Dr_willis> i was thinking   gsynaptics and its ksynaptics variant. are not really 'working' with the latest X releases any more. they ar4e being replaced by somthing else.
[01:18] <Dr_willis> acornstar,  correct.. you need to tweak the xorg.conf to enable that option...
[01:18] <acornstar> do I use Kate for that?
[01:18] <Dr_willis> you could I guess.. with   'kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf' - but i dont rember where that option goes exactly.
[01:19] <Dr_willis> i recall the gsynaptics homepage having details on that topic. :)
[01:19] <JackWinter> i would use konqueror, and then right click edit as root
[01:19] <acornstar> ok..let me try
[01:20] <Dr_willis> i would use vi, and have it edited and saved befor you could find it in the filemanger.. :P
[01:20] <Dr_willis> Of course you will need to restart X for the option to take affect.
[01:20] <Dr_willis> and even THEN.. im not sure if gsynaptics even works right any more
[01:21] <helpy> i can't mount my cdrom any help ?
[01:21] <Dr_willis> helpy,  try mounting from the terminal?
[01:21] <acornstar> what line do I edit, because I dont see shmconfig
[01:21] <JackWinter> hehe Dr_willis that's all these years of windows i was  forced through :)
[01:21] <Dr_willis> sudo mount -t udf /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom     -- or somthing similer.
[01:22] <Dr_willis> acornstar,  i dont rember/ you add that line somewhere.. the gsynaptic hompage had details last i had to do that task.
[01:22] <acornstar> ok
[01:22] <helpy> doesnt work
[01:22] <helpy> gives me an error
[01:22] <helpy> mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[01:23] <helpy> it has something to do with permissions and i have no idea how to get permissions
[01:23] <helpy> i am already root
[01:25] <acornstar> Alright...restarting....i'll be back
[01:27] <JackWinter> helpy: sudo su ?
[01:27] <helpy> doesnt work
[01:27] <helpy> i am already root
[01:28] <acornstar> It worked...but there is no option to disable tapping in the vertical scrolling region
[01:28] <JackWinter> yeah the q was jokingly asking if you used sudo su :)
[01:29] <JackWinter> sorry that i can't help you to get the cd working.  did you try with another cd ?
[01:31] <helpy> nope
[01:31] <JackWinter> maybe the cd is bad
[01:31] <helpy> trying now
[01:33] <acornstar> I found alot of different option for xorg.conf but is there one to disable tapping in the vert edge zone?
[01:33] <ign0ramus> hi all
[01:33] <ign0ramus> i'm an idiot - what's the command to delete a directory that is not empty?
[01:34] <helpy> says invalid mount point when trying to mount volume 'UDF volume'
[01:35] <ign0ramus> acornstar: see here -->
[01:35] <ign0ramus> woops http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=351058
[01:38] <ign0ramus> nvm. found it.
[01:41] <PiPhi> hello
[01:42] <PiPhi> anybody awake?
[01:44] <Blackdeath> Hello, can I get any help out here for finding drivers
[01:45] <Dr_willis_> For what device exactly Blackdeath ?
[01:45] <Blackdeath> Wait one, please
[01:46] <Blackdeath> Intel onboard wireless
[01:46] <Blackdeath> 82801G
[01:47] <Dr_willis_> All i know about wireless.. (other then that it can be a headache) is at
[01:47] <Dr_willis_> !wireless
[01:47]  * Dr_willis_ pokes the bot.
[01:47] <Blackdeath> I actually have an HP Pavilion dv9347cl if that help any
[01:47] <Blackdeath> !wireless
[01:48] <Dr_willis_> the exact chipset of the wireless card. will be 'critical' in determing what you need to do to get wireless going on that laptop. You could also google/check the ubuntu forums for that specic laptop
[01:48] <john_> Hi.  Could someone explain to me what I have to do to get files from one computer to another over a network using Ubuntu?
[01:48] <Dr_willis_> john_,  what os is on the other pc?
[01:48] <john_> Both have Ubuntu Hardy
[01:48] <Dr_willis_> john_,  simple way is to use ssh/scp
[01:48] <PiPhi> I'm looking for help on dual-monitor-configuration. xinarama works but the monitors don't cover the whole virtual screen
[01:48] <Blackdeath> Thanks Dr_willis
[01:49] <Dr_willis_> PiPhi,  using nvidia or ati video cards? or other?
[01:49] <JackWinter> john_: or look into nfs, there are some tutorials on the forums
[01:49] <john_> Dr_willis Do I need an IP number to use ssh/scp?
[01:50] <PiPhi> ati. it's a AMD690GM-M2 Mainboard with radeon 1250 buildt-in and hdmi and VGA-output
[01:50] <Dr_willis_> john_,  well.. if a machine has no ip#. not a lot can accessit.. since its err.. not really on the network then...
[01:50] <Blackdeath> seems like the world of !wireless is afk tonight
[01:50] <Dr_willis_> so either the machines name. or the ip# is normally needed.
[01:51] <Dr_willis_> http://www.hypexr.org/linux_scp_help.php      scp examples
[01:51] <acornstar> wow...i messed up my mouse, and had to undo the xorf changes!
[01:51] <john_> dr_willis therein lies my problem.  ifconfig only reports the IPv6 address of eth0 on both machines, but no IPv4 address.  It makes me sad.
[01:51] <JackWinter> john_: you always need ips for networkin unde unix.  use on of the reserved address ranges like 192.168.*.*
[01:51] <Dr_willis_> scp example.c username@azure.itlabs.umn.edu:~
[01:51] <Dr_willis_> shows how to copy a file (example.c) from your current directory at home to your IT Labs account:
[01:53] <Blackdeath> Hum...
[01:54] <Blackdeath> Dr_willis, what site can I google for support on wireless
[01:54] <Dr_willis_> PiPhi,  no idea on dual monitors and twinview.
[01:54] <Dr_willis_> Blackdeath,  the ubuntu forums/wiki would be the place to start
[01:54] <john_> dr_willis How do I make it use an IP address in the reserved range
[01:54] <Blackdeath> So the Kubuntu wiki?
[01:54] <Blackdeath> Can I get a linxorz
[01:55] <acornstar> on the + side, i installed wlassistant and I think I can connect wirelessly now!
[01:55] <acornstar> maybe not
[01:55] <acornstar> it cant connect to any of the networks
[01:55] <JackWinter> Blackdeath: i think i read that you can use a windows driver if no native driver is available.  google for ndis wrapper linux or somesuch
[01:55] <acornstar> it cant connect to any of the networks
[01:56] <acornstar> any ideas?
[01:57] <Dr_willis_> john_,  kubutnu has some network config tools in the settings menus. I just let all my machines use dhcp.
[01:57] <Dr_willis_> john_,  you are refering to a WIRED network? not wireless?
[01:58] <PiPhi> I'm editing xorg.conf, because the systemconfiguration doesn't know about the two screens. only one monitor is available there
[01:59] <john_> dr_willis It is a wired network, but so far I've just been using it to share an ADSL modem between two computers.  I've been using a generic Ubuntu setup.  Is there an easy way that I can use the kubuntu network config tools?
[02:00] <JackWinter> what is the ip of the router ?
[02:01] <nejode> john_: if you want a regular local network you'll need samba or NFS
[02:02] <JackWinter> or even easier assign some dhcp addresses in the router...
[02:02] <Dr_willis_> or check the machines to see if they do in fact have ip#s
[02:02] <Dr_willis_> which i imagine they do.
[02:03] <JackWinter> otherwise you won't connect to the net :)
[02:03] <john_> But to use NFS, I still need to get regular IPv4 worling right?  So far as I can tell, I only have IPv4 through pppoe with the computers connecting through a router to the ADSL modem using IPv6 which makes no sense to me at all.
[02:03] <Dr_willis_> networking basics. ;0
[02:03] <Dr_willis_> ive never used adsl. so no clue on that.
[02:03] <john_> It is the basics which confound me.
[02:03] <Dr_willis_> the router should be giveing all the machines ip#'s
[02:04] <nejode> ¿you sure you're using IPv6?
[02:04] <john_> I'm not sure, but ifconfig shows an IPv4 address for ppp0 and an IPv6 addr for eth0 on both computers.
[02:05] <john_> Would this mean the router isn't working properly?
[02:05] <nejode> ¿what's the address?
[02:06] <john_> On one machine eth0 is fe80::21e:90ff:fe1d:eb46/64 and ppp0 is 138.89.61.58
[02:07] <john_> On the other etho is fe80::210:dcff:fec6:150b/64 and ppp0 is 70.21.159.129
[02:07] <Dragnslcr> scp should work fine over IPv6 if that's what your internal network is using
[02:07] <JackWinter> my ifconfig shows an interface with a ip4 and a ip6 address. the other interfaace is the loopback, and that is all no ppp0...
[02:07] <szakulec> folks, I've got an unusual issue here: after a graphical login, my keyboard responds like it's stuck- if you hold down the key, it works, otherwise no
[02:08] <szakulec> if I log out and pick fail safe or switch to a console, the keyboard works fine
[02:09] <PiPhi> is there a chance to get an expert for dual-display / xorg.conf in another time?
[02:09] <Dr_willis_> so on KDM screen it works good.. but on  kde desktop its messed up eh szakulec ?
[02:09] <szakulec> yeap
[02:10] <szakulec> if I hold down the keys for a few seconds, it will start repeating them
[02:10] <JackWinter> PiPhi: what gfx card do use, maybe the right channel would be a better bet
[02:10] <nejode> john_: in konsole> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart ... and run ifconfig again to see what network address you get
[02:10] <Dr_willis_> PiPhi,  for some of that stuff. i often search the gentoo wikis :)  There is a dualhead ubuntu wiki page or 2 also.
[02:11] <PiPhi> JackWinter: it's a AMD690GM-M2 Mainboard with radeon 1250 buildt-in and hdmi and VGA-output
[02:13] <PiPhi> Dr-willis_: nobody seems to use onboard-grafic. I found no solutions to my problem in any forum or wiki
[02:14] <JackWinter> PiPhi: try #ati
[02:15] <PiPhi> JackWinter: #at ???
[02:15] <JackWinter> on this irc network, the channel called "#ati"
[02:16] <genii> eg:   /join #ati
[02:16] <PiPhi> sorry the last 'i' wasn't visible in the default coloring of kopete
[02:17] <JackWinter> try Konversation
[02:18] <LetsGo67> Why is my recordMyDesktop video laggy? I have 3GB of RAM!
[02:18] <PiPhi> thanks & bye
[02:19] <LetsGo67> Can someone help please?
[02:21] <genii> LetsGo67: Perhaps youi need to use the KDE Krecordmydesktop    instead of the Gnome recordmydesktop
[02:25] <digistyl3> where can i find the extract and compress menus for konqueror?
[02:25] <digistyl3> what path?
[02:34] <genii> digistyl3:  There is no path in which they are. It's an integral part of Konqueror.
[02:35] <digistyl3> ok
[02:39] <digistyl3> i wanted to port them to kde 4.1, but someone told they use ark, and that the new ark doesn't have those features yet
[02:39] <digistyl3> anyway, thanks
[02:40] <LetsGo67> genii: oops, sorry, not using KDE.  Maybe I shouldn't be here...
[02:42] <genii> LetsGo67: Some questions have a common answer in either Ubuntu or Kubuntu, but yours is not one of them. Anyhow it seems you are receiving proper help in the correct channel of #ubuntu now anyways.
[02:42] <acornstar> hello again
[02:42] <acornstar> so, I have finally connected to a wireless network
[02:42] <acornstar> but cant  browse the internet
[02:42] <acornstar> hello!
[02:43] <LetsGo67> genii: why so many crashes, lags, with 3GB of RAM!?
[02:43] <genii> acornstar: Can you ping an IP directly?
[02:43] <acornstar> I was connected wirelessly when I wrote those messages...
[02:44] <acornstar> not sure about pinging
[02:44] <genii> acornstar: 64.233.187.99   for instance is google.com
[02:44] <acornstar> oh
[02:44] <acornstar> so, in konsole...just type
[02:44] <genii> LetsGo67: No idea.
[02:44] <acornstar> ping then the IP
[02:44] <genii> acornstar: Yes.   to kill it  ctrl-c
[02:44] <Dr_willis> Perhaps its not a ram related crash. :)
[02:45] <acornstar> k
[02:45] <acornstar> i'll unplug the ethernet and try wireless
[02:45] <LetsGo67> thanks ttyl.
[02:45]  * genii hands Dr_willis a coffee
[02:46] <acornstar> yeah, i was able to ping google
[02:46] <acornstar> yeah, i was able to ping google
[02:46] <genii> acornstar: Ok. So ping by IP worked. Can you ping by name? eg:   ping google.com
[02:48] <acornstar> no, ping by name didnt work
[02:48] <yousef> aMSN is failing to connect
[02:48] <dolo> anyone here good with usplash
[02:48] <yousef> mi didn't change any settings
[02:48] <genii> acornstar: OK. So DNS here seems to be the problem then
[02:48] <acornstar> ok...so what should I do?
[02:48] <yousef> anyone use aMSN?
[02:49] <genii> acornstar: Did you specify an IP and so on to the interface, or is it just auto and supposed to get an IP/nameserver and so on by itself?
[02:49] <acornstar> auto cause i'm using hotspots
[02:50] <RG-NewGuy> i'm soo close
[02:50] <RG-NewGuy> 99% of download complete!
[02:51]  * Dr_willis pulls the plug on RG-NewGuy  :)
[02:51] <RG-NewGuy> noooooooooooo
[02:51] <dolo> usplash ? anyone?
[02:51] <RG-NewGuy> i've been downloading this for 4hours now
[02:51] <genii> acornstar: OK.  Perhaps try then in Konsole: sudo dhclient -r wlan0  (assuming wlan0 here, use what the real interface name is)   then:   sudo dhclient wlan0
[02:51] <RG-NewGuy> kubuntu here i come
[02:51] <genii> acornstar: Then try again ping by name.
[02:51] <RG-NewGuy> dear god DONT BE CORRUPT :(
[02:52] <acornstar> k
[02:52] <genii> !usplash
[02:52]  * genii prods the bot
[02:52] <dolo> hey genil
[02:53] <dolo> u know how to use it?
[02:53] <dolo> been trying  for past 2 days with no luck
[02:54] <genii> dolo: The bot normally will give a link which then has instructions on this subject, but it seems currently offline.
[02:54] <dolo> a bot ? to send me back to the tutorial i been futsing with for 2 days
[02:54] <genii> dolo: I have sometimes played with the usplash but not enough to helpful in giving instructions on how to use it
[02:55] <dolo> you know to use gimp?
[02:55] <dolo> i think maybe my image has to man colors or something
[02:56] <dolo> many
[02:56] <genii> dolo: Yes, I recall it likes 256 colours
[02:56] <acornstar> still cant ping by name / connect
[02:57] <yousef> who uses aMSN??
[02:57] <genii> acornstar: Did it release the IP and get a new one properly however?
[02:57] <acornstar> yes, i think so
[02:58] <genii> acornstar: Please use pastebin to show result of command:   cat /etc/resolv.conf
[02:59] <acornstar> execute this command when i'm connected wirelessly only, right?
[03:00] <genii> acornstar: Yes. Then you could connect by wired to post the result to the pastebin website
[03:01] <genii> acornstar: It may be if you use a combination of wired/wireless the wired connection becomes default gateway also.
[03:01] <acornstar> sorry, what is pastebin?
[03:01] <acornstar> nevermind
[03:01] <acornstar> i see
[03:01] <genii> acornstar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/      You copy text from your computer to there and then give us the link
[03:03] <acornstar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/34253/
[03:03] <acornstar> I gave you the results for wired and wireless
[03:05] <genii> reading
[03:07] <genii> acornstar: So the problem seems to be as I stated. The wired connection has it's own settings which get into the nameserver sections. Then the wireless connection tries to use those values and fails.
[03:08] <acornstar> ok!
[03:08] <acornstar> so how do we fix it?
[03:09] <genii> acornstar: As an experiment. Boot the machine with no LAN cable and then see if it connects properly through only the wireless.
[03:09] <nuxil> anyone know of proper way to convert Pdf to Html ? pdftohtml makes it unreadble. i tried with both -c , -p options.. but it still sucks.
[03:09] <genii> acornstar: The wired connection is auto as well, yes?
[03:09] <acornstar> yes
[03:10] <acornstar> i just plug it in and it works
[03:10] <genii> acornstar: OK. So when no wired connection when it tries to find network, the wifi should become default. But please test this.
[03:11] <acornstar> how do I make the wifi try to become default?
[03:12] <nuxil> acornstar, you can bridge the two nics. then it doesnt matter which is default
[03:12] <nuxil> acornstar, then etc0 and wlan0 becomes br0 which you set as default
[03:12] <nuxil> *etc-> eth0
[03:13] <acornstar> how do i bridge them
[03:13] <acornstar> ?
[03:13] <genii> With ifenslave
[03:13] <nuxil> !bridge-utils
[03:13] <genii> nuxil: The bot is offline
[03:13] <nuxil> ok
[03:13] <acornstar> genii: ifenslave?  is it easy to undo just incase?
[03:13] <genii> acornstar: Yes
[03:14] <jose> how can i download software in kubuntu
[03:15] <acornstar> genii: how to I use ifenslave...i just downloaded it
[03:15] <genii> acornstar: There is a basic instruction here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=785471&highlight=ifenslave
[03:16] <jose> how to download kmail
[03:17] <genii> jose: If you mean how to install it, do it from Add/Remove Programs
[03:18] <genii> It's in category "Internet"
[03:23] <javimansilla> how can I enable kdm themes form kcontrol?
[03:27] <acornstar> genii: still couldnt connect
[03:30] <genii> acornstar: Hmm. Please pastebin contents of:  /etc/network/interfaces
[03:31] <Hydrogen> !find locate
[03:31] <nuxil> lol
[03:31] <acornstar> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/34258/ <- maybe I didnt make enough changes
[03:31] <nuxil> Hydrogen, bot is don
[03:31] <nuxil> *down
[03:32] <nuxil> Hydrogen, updatebd ; locate blah
[03:32] <Hydrogen> right, I know how to use it.
[03:32] <Hydrogen> I'm wondering what package its in
[03:33] <nuxil> ahh
[03:33] <nuxil> use dpkg ?
[03:35] <genii> acornstar: Reading
[03:35] <histo> what package what is in?
[03:35] <histo> Hydrogen: what are you looking for?
[03:37] <dolo> anyone here good with usplash?
[03:37] <genii> acornstar: I see you copied verbatim the example. Are your interfaces in fact called eth0 and eth1? For wireless the more common name for the wireless would probably be wlan0 or ath0
[03:37] <acornstar> ah
[03:37] <acornstar> !
[03:37] <acornstar> ok
[03:37] <genii> acornstar: Please pastebin result of command: ifconfig
[03:38] <dolo> !usplash
[03:38] <acornstar> genii: should i fix the file first?
[03:38] <genii> acornstar: Not yet til we know the real names from ifconfig
[03:39] <acornstar> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/34261/
[03:40] <genii> acornstar: Rading
[03:41] <genii> *reading
[03:42] <histo> acornstar: please don't use enter as punctuation
[03:42] <nuxil> i see a buggy driver.
[03:42]  * histo curses ubottu for not working
[03:43] <nuxil> acornstar, your not using ndiswrapper are you?
[03:43] <acornstar> nuxil: i think I have it isntalled
[03:43] <genii> acornstar: OK so in this case use eth0 and wlan0 for that example.    Why your eth0 has 118.38.19.96 is interesting. The nameservers you posted before were  168.126.63.1 and  168.126.63.2 for example.
[03:43] <nuxil> installed and configured are 2 diffrent things
[03:44] <acornstar> ok..let me change the interfaces file, then I can work on configuring ndiswrapper
[03:44] <ubuntu> yo
[03:44] <ubuntu> trying out kubuntu.. any recommendations?
[03:44] <nuxil> acornstar, when ifconfig shows wlan0 and wmaster0 you are most likelt using a linux module,, not ndiswrapper. and this is a bug in many drivers
[03:45] <acornstar> so how do I configure it?
[03:46] <acornstar> genii: i made the changes...will reboot in a minute
[03:46] <nuxil> genii, look in the ubuntuforums
[03:46]  * nuxil kicks the bot
[03:47] <genii> nuxil: wmaster0 is the USB host adapter of wlan0
[03:47] <nuxil> genii, is a common bug in driver
[03:47] <nuxil> +s
[03:48] <nuxil> genii, 90% of ppl haveing both wlan0 and wmaster0 have wron module loaded or they have to use ndiswrapper
[03:49]  * nuxil know.. he had the same issue. 
[03:49] <acornstar> genii: here is the updated interfaces: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/34263/
[03:49] <koopa> hello, I'm using hardy on a powerpc. I can't seem to install sun-java6-jre because adept says that sun-java6-bin is not installable
[03:50] <histo> koopa: are you user that java6 is built for ppc
[03:50] <genii> nuxil: My realtek 8187 wireless for example is on an internal USB bus. So I see wmaster0 with an impossible mac address since this is actually the usb host adapter of the r8187 card itself
[03:51] <nuxil> genii, normaly its the same address just with more numbers. ex ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:00:00:00:00
[03:51] <gonzalo> holaa
[03:51] <koopa> histo: says arcitecture is "all"
[03:51] <genii> acornstar: You may also want to add in that file at the top, 2 lines: auto lo              then under: iface lo inet loopback
[03:51] <genii> !cl
[03:52] <genii> bah
[03:52] <stauffenberg> Bonjour
[03:52] <histo> koopa: hm...
[03:53] <genii> nuxil: Yes, 10 sets more of zeros
[03:53] <acornstar> genii: like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/34264/
[03:54] <genii> koopa: Perhaps visit #ubuntu-ppc     please
[03:54] <genii> acornstar: No. 1 minute
[03:54] <nuxil> genii, that can be changed with ifconfig wmaster0 hw ether NEWMAC
[03:54] <koopa> thanks
[03:55] <acornstar> nuxil: i previously added my driver with Windows Wireless Drivers, which is ndiswrapper, right?
[03:55] <nuxil> acornstar, yes
[03:55] <genii> acornstar: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/34265/
[03:56] <acornstar> OK...i'll try it
[03:56] <flaccid> why the bridge?
[03:58] <genii> flaccid: He has problems with wired/wireless combo using correct route/dns
[03:58] <acornstar> genii: still didnt work.
[03:58] <flaccid> what kind of problems?
[03:58] <genii> acornstar: After any changes there, issue:   sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:59] <acornstar> So i'm using wlassistant, and previously, it was finidng networks, but now it doesnt.  Instead, KNetwork Manager is finidng them...
[03:59] <acornstar> genii: error: no such device
[04:00] <genii> flaccid: Wired works but then switch to wireless doesn't. Ping by IP works then but not ping by name. He needs wireless latches to free network in range
[04:00] <flaccid> wouldn't not by name suggest resolution problem?
[04:01] <acornstar> but with knetwork manager, i cant connect to them...it just stays at "configuring device"
[04:01]  * nuxil still thinks he isnt using ndiswrapper
[04:01] <flaccid> good idea to check the logs
[04:02] <mortici> how do i edit things in the login manager in kde4?
[04:02] <nuxil> mortici move to #kubuntu-kde4
[04:02] <mortici> done
[04:02] <acornstar> nuxil: so, installing the driver isnt enough?
[04:03] <nuxil> acornstar, check that ndiswrapper is loaded
[04:03] <acornstar> how do I check if its loaded?
[04:03] <nuxil> lsmod
[04:03] <genii> acornstar: Did you do the step of adding "bonding mode=active-backup miimon=100" in your /etc/modules as the http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=785471 suggested?
[04:04] <acornstar> i typed ndiswrapper -l and it showed me the driver i isntalled
[04:04] <acornstar> genii: yes, i believe so...i'll double check
[04:05] <acornstar> sugenii: yes, its the bottom line of that file
[04:06] <nuxil> acornstar, did you read this doc?
[04:06] <nuxil> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[04:06] <genii> acornstar: OK.    sudo modprobe bonding                      then issue again:  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:07] <genii> uhoh lightning
[04:07] <genii> AFK
[04:07] <nuxil> chicken :p
[04:18] <akatzin> que tranza
[04:19] <genii> Back. Had to swap battery in laptop so I could unplug it during storm
[04:30] <acornstar> something happened where I couldnt connect wired either, and now, after undoing my changes, it doesnt see the wireless card
[04:31] <acornstar> what a mess!
[04:31] <flaccid> acornstar: i'd be checking logs and making sure your driver/ndiswrapper is working properly
[04:32] <acornstar> i dont know how to do that
[04:34] <mortici> How do i update my locale settings?
[04:34] <japa> is it possible to rename teh entries in /dev/ ?
[04:34] <acornstar> i think i will just reinstall kubuntu and start from scratch...i'm just running this to test it out
[04:34] <mortici> When i type out locale in a shell it outputs eveything as POSIX and not en_US.UTF-8
[04:37] <flaccid> acornstar: run ksytemlog and check system log, kernel etc.
[04:37] <akatzin> get a whore
[04:37] <akatzin> fucking nerds
[04:38] <akatzin> i wanna fuck your sisters
[04:38] <flaccid> !ops
[04:38]  * japa acepalms
[04:38] <flaccid> !language | akatzin
[04:39] <flaccid> oh yeah no ubottu hehe
[04:39] <mr---t-> no bot flaccid
[04:39] <acornstar> genii: seems like it never was able to load my driver, but why is my card missing now?
[04:39] <flaccid> yeah im on a lag atm as well coz of a cap
[04:39] <flaccid> acornstar: why do you think its missing?
[04:39] <mortici> !locale | mortici
[04:40] <whiterabbit> Does anyone know how to get yahoo IM or myspace IM and counter strike to work with wine?  After a little reading I think it's an ntlm authentication issue(they crash while trying to log in or in the case of counter strike when i try to download the game), but can't figure out what package in me adept manager to install to fix this.
[04:40] <acornstar> under system settings - network, only eth0 is listed
[04:40] <acornstar> its the only available network interface
[04:40] <flaccid> acornstar: then your driver is not loading
[04:40] <flaccid> what is your lscpi entry for the card again, acornstar?
[04:41] <acornstar> but my card showed up before I ever tried to install the driver
[04:41] <flaccid> that doesn't conclude anything especially if you have tried to reconfigure it in however many ways
[04:42] <acornstar> well..i'll try to reload the driver
[04:44] <acornstar> i reloaded the driver...still nothing
[04:44] <nuxil> acornstar, have you read the link i gave you
[04:44] <flaccid> acornstar: what is the entry of the card in lspci ?
[04:44] <acornstar>  ksytemlog
[04:44] <acornstar> acornstar@ubuntu:~$ ndiswrapper -l
[04:44] <acornstar> netrtuw : driver installed
[04:44] <acornstar>         device (0BDA:8187) present (alternate driver: rtl8187)
[04:44] <acornstar> sorry
[04:44] <acornstar> yes
[04:45] <nuxil> lsmod | grep ndiswrapper
[04:45] <acornstar> does this mean the device, my wlan card, is present?
[04:46] <nuxil> run this command --> lsmod | grep ndiswrapper
[04:46] <acornstar> ok
[04:46] <acornstar> then what..
[04:46] <nuxil> did it show anything
[04:46] <acornstar> ndiswrapper 192920 0
[04:47] <nuxil> ok. just checking if the module is loaded
[04:47] <acornstar> usbcore 146028 4 nidswrapper,ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
[04:47] <flaccid> acornstar: lspci | grep -i network
[04:48] <acornstar> k
[04:49] <acornstar> just brought me to another line
[04:50] <flaccid> acornstar: pastebin lspci then or look in it for your card to paste
[04:51] <flaccid> is this pci or usb?
[04:51] <andres> Hola
[04:51] <andres> tengo un problema con las particiones
[04:51] <andres> quien me puede ayudar :S?
[04:52] <nuxil> that looks like usb since ndiswrapper is used by usbcore
[04:52] <nuxil> !es
[04:52] <nuxil>  andres join #kubuntu-es
[04:52] <andres> cuando voy a panel de control para montarlas no puedo y tengo que hacerlo desde consola y forzando la consola
[04:52] <andres> como puedo hacer para que monte automaticamente sin tener que hacerlo desde consola y forzando
[04:52] <andres> ?
[04:52] <Jucato> !es | andres
[04:53] <nuxil> the bot is down
[04:53] <Jucato> pfft
[04:53] <nuxil> andres, type /join #kubuntu-es
[04:53] <nmeless> I'm in kde4.1 and i accidently went in to bash and now i can't get back in to the gui
[04:53] <nmeless> halp
[04:53] <andres> aok
[04:53] <andres> gracias ;)
[04:53] <nuxil> nmeless, go to #kubuntu-kde4
[04:59] <nuxil> are there other converters that does pdf 2 html besides pdftohml ?
[05:01] <Ashex> bah
[05:01] <Ashex> I need to drop 64-bit
[05:01] <Ashex> it's a pain in the but
[05:02] <Ashex> butt*
[05:02] <nuxil> Ashex, i could have told you that before you installed it
[05:03] <crimsun> 64-bit works great here
[05:03] <Ashex> nuxil, I installed it back at RC1 when I was doing testing
[05:03] <Ashex> I never really bothered to take it off :/
[05:03] <dolo> <- is still looking for help with usplash
[05:03] <Ashex> for some reason, the system is more sluggish then when I was running 32-bit
[05:04] <Ashex> my biggest problem is that I like playing with random projects I find, and I keep running into errors compiling
[05:04] <nuxil> when all apps are ported to 64 and new ones are only written in it. and is stable there i'll change to 64
[05:04] <nuxil> noot a day before
[05:04] <Ashex> heh
[05:04] <Ashex> I just wish there was 32-bit compatibility like *gasp* vista
[05:05] <nuxil> bootstrap ?
[05:05] <Ashex> that's pretty much the one thing I like about it
[05:05] <Ashex> too much work to install an app
[05:05] <nuxil> yeah
[05:05] <Ashex> plus when I was playing with it awhile back, it kept thinking it was still 64-bit
[05:06] <Ashex> was trying to compile apps for a hacked winterm I was toying with
[05:07] <Ashex> I'd do it right now, but I'm heading off to a convention in two days, and I'd like to have everything working properly when I work remotely
[05:08] <nuxil> im starting to get frustrated.. i cant find a decent wat to convert pdf to html
[05:08] <nuxil> *wat -> way
[05:09] <dolo> anyone use usplash?
[05:09] <Ashex> xpdf?
[05:10] <Shadowz> anyone still around?
[05:10] <nuxil> can it convert ?
[05:10] <Shadowz> does the download from the site come with xmms?
[05:11] <Ashex> it can convert to text and postscript
[05:12] <nuxil> oh well. there are pictures in this pdf file
[05:12] <Ashex> this is a fork of it, http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdftohtml/
[05:12] <Ashex> converts to html
 are there other converters that does pdf 2 html besides pdftohml ?
[05:13] <nuxil> :p
[05:13] <Shadowz> does the download from the site come with xmms?
[05:13] <Ashex> heh
[05:13] <nuxil> no. u have to install it
[05:13] <Ashex> I kinda joined the channel after that ;)
[05:14] <Ashex> dolo, what's your question?
[05:14] <Ashex> I haven't used usplash in awhile, but I may be able to help
[05:14] <RG-NewGuy> nuxil: thanks
[05:14] <dolo> i tryed using it the past 2 days but have had no luck
[05:14] <RG-NewGuy> is it already up to par with the requirments for xmms?
[05:14] <dolo> the screen comes up black
[05:14] <nuxil> RG-NewGuy, why you want to use xmms
[05:15] <dolo> i tryed adjusting the grub thing to 788
[05:15] <nuxil> its old and sucks compares to amarok
[05:15] <dolo> but didnt work
[05:15] <dolo> i tryed putting the old splash back but now it looks like lower resolution than before
[05:15] <Ashex> are you using a gui application to configure it?
[05:17] <RG-NewGuy> nuxil: thanks for the tip
[05:17] <dolo> no i been using this thing
[05:17] <dolo> !usplash
[05:17] <nuxil> bot is bown
[05:17] <nuxil> *-b +d
[05:18] <dolo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[05:18] <dolo> i wish there was some simple gui based way to do this but havent found 1
[05:19] <Ashex> blegh, that doc is outdated
[05:20] <Ashex> have you tried startupmanager?
[05:20] <Ashex> It's a gnome app that I think configures usplash
[05:21] <dolo> ya but it works with so files
[05:21] <mpsan> Anyone here install on a Pendrive?
[05:21] <dolo> i was using that page to try and make a custom .so file
[05:22] <RG-NewGuy> is gimp included with the program?
[05:24] <Ashex> ah
[05:24] <Ashex> dolo, sorry, I can't really help you with that :/
[05:24] <mpsan> So, noone has installed on a Pendrive?
[05:25] <Ashex> that page is outdated though, check your man for it, or the readme (should be /usr/share/doc/libusplash-dev/examples/README )
[05:25] <flaccid> mpsan: i have
[05:26] <mpsan> I did and if I create a user and change the root passwd, I then have an issue where KDE will not start
[05:26] <mpsan> This is an 8GB USB drive, too.
[05:27] <mpsan> It comes up fine and I can config my Internet, but if I create a user it dies. I even got firefox 3
[05:27] <flaccid> mpsan: go back to kdm and login as a normal user under failsafe session. then run startkde and see the problem
[05:28] <mpsan> not sure I can go to kdm...is that on the pendrive install from the live cd?
[05:29] <mpsan> Actually, do I even need to create a user?
[05:29] <flaccid> mpsan: um it should be if auto login is turned off. you could goto a tty and do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop; sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[05:30] <flaccid> well its a good idea to change the users from the way its set up for a live cd (if you are doing persistent pen drive)
[05:31] <mpsan> ok will try...and I am using persistant. At the start after the install there is no login screen and I am just in KDE all looks good.
[05:32] <mpsan> flaccid...I will try now. Thanks.
[05:33] <flaccid> np
[05:34] <RG-NewGuy> does kubuntu come with ogg codec's?
[05:35] <flaccid> RG-NewGuy: out of box yes iirc
[05:35]  * nuxil wants to blowup adobe for inventing pdf
[05:36] <RG-NewGuy> from what i understand M$ is tring to make their own program to read/write PDF not sure how though need to research that one
[05:36] <nuxil> isnt ogg the standar format for mediaplayers in kubuntu.`
[05:37] <matthew__> I know all of the warning deeps and stuff are ogg's
[05:37] <matthew__> i think it's default for most Linux dist's
[05:37] <nuxil> unless you install extras
[05:37] <nuxil> RG-NewGuy, adobe owns pdf
[05:38] <flaccid> nuxil: pdf is now standard
[05:38] <nuxil> its shitty format..ok for printing,, not for reading
[05:38] <flaccid> i disagree
[05:40] <nuxil> all you do is scroll down scroll down.. and if you want to mark any text you have to klick in selection first.. stupid imo
[05:40] <chapa> tengo un problema, alguien habla español?
[05:40] <flaccid> the limitation you are talking about is due to the gui viewer not the pdf format
[05:40] <matthew__> PDF is only useful if you want to send documents cross platform
[05:41] <flaccid> pdf is useful for many many things
[05:41] <nuxil> matthew__, yes or as i said,, printing,
[05:41] <matthew__> ever then there are better mediums but PDF is the most widely accepted
[05:41] <flaccid> white papers, ebooks, graphic design mockups, invoices etc.etc...
[05:41] <zanberdo> it seems I can rip and burn dvd's on my desktop (which is running kubuntu 8.04) but the resulting dvd will not play back on the desktop.  It will however, play on my stand-alone dvd player.  Why might that be?
[05:42] <matthew__> ebook = docbook format : graphic = png,jpg etc
[05:42] <nuxil> flaccid, a plain doc format can do that :p
[05:42] <zanberdo> note: kaffeine reports that the disk is encrypted...
[05:42] <chapa> hola! hay alguien ahí, cómo funciona esto?
[05:42] <flaccid> matthew__: i have thousands of ebooks in pdf. in the graphic design industry its normal practice to embed mockups in pdf for portability and easy of printing
[05:42] <chapa> necesito que alguien me de una mano con un problema con el panel en kubuntu
[05:42] <flaccid> nuxil: what is a plain doc format? never heard of it
[05:43] <nuxil> figure of peach
[05:43] <mr---t-> chapa : kubuntu-es
[05:43] <nuxil> *speach
[05:43] <flaccid> nuxil: example?
[05:43] <matthew__> he means normal text i think
[05:44] <chapa> como me conecto con kubuntu es?
[05:44] <flaccid> you cannot put images in normal text and its not suitable for these media types
[05:44] <nuxil> openoffice and you can put in all the pic and text you want.. and its even esyer to read then pdf
[05:44] <matthew__> also XHTML is a good language for it
[05:44] <mr---t-> join/#kubuntu-es
[05:44] <flaccid> the oasis document formats are not well supported yet.
[05:44] <matthew__> since it's initial purpose was to get info across to other users
[05:44] <zanberdo> no one has any experience with burning a ripped dvd and not being able to play back the resulting dvd on the same machine used to burn it, yet it will play back fine on stand-alone players?
[05:44] <flaccid> no xhtml is suitable for the web
[05:45] <flaccid> zanberdo: don't repeat please
[05:45] <matthew__> and the web is not cross platform?
[05:46] <flaccid> matthew__: its not suitable for these types of media. it would also require hiring a web developer for needless authoring to the web medium. sending a html document is not suitable and lacks authoring
[05:46] <flaccid> and .mht is not well supported yet anyway not is it de facto standard :)
[05:46] <flaccid> not=nor
[05:49] <Agent_bob> html + jpg  is a standard      so to say
[05:49] <flaccid> and is not 1 file.
[05:49] <mr---t-> chapa #kubuntu-es por espanol
[05:49] <Agent_bob> correct,   but you could make a zip file out of the two of them and it would be one file
[05:50] <Agent_bob> :)
[05:50] <matthew__> there is a way to embed images into the HTML itself
[05:50] <flaccid> this is one reason why pdf was invented. zip is not foss either or a standard :)
[05:51] <Agent_bob> matthew__ i have only seen that a couple of times and it's ugly with a big you.
[05:51] <Agent_bob> flaccid jpg is not foss
[05:51] <flaccid> you guys are missing the point. i work in the creative media industries and it would be a pita to export stuff html and put in a zip and pass around to clients. 1 pdf document is quick and easy
[05:51] <Agent_bob> pdf is not foss
[05:52] <flaccid> jpeg isn't but pdf is now
[05:52] <Agent_bob> well ok.  maybe is now.   but wasn't yestergo
[05:52] <nuxil> flaccid, i get your point.. but i still dislike it. or should i say all the guis for it
[05:52] <flaccid> 'graphic designer send me your mockup for clients in xhtml format with a print stylesheet  in a zip' 'wtf'..
[05:52]  * Agent_bob doesn't like pdf just because it became foss...   
[05:52] <nuxil> flaccid, its  not impossible
[05:53] <flaccid> its actually really good if you look into it and eps..
[05:53] <Agent_bob> somehow that was too little too late to make me like pdf
[05:53] <flaccid> nuxil: its a pita and would be laughed at
[05:53] <nuxil> i would not
[05:53] <nuxil> :)
[05:53] <flaccid> and it wouldn't print properlly at all if you know anything about css and printing from web
[05:54] <flaccid> only css element you can put in is a page break and then it can render differently in whatever browser they choose to use. this is only 1 problem...
[05:54] <Agent_bob> most webpages don't print correctly to a text based browser
[05:54] <matthew__> Printing from the web can be done extremely well if you do your CSS right
[05:54] <flaccid> matthew__: yes i do it for a living. but you aint going to be able to do it with a high resolution TIFF are you :)
[05:55] <Agent_bob> heh  it wouldn't scale
[05:55] <flaccid> this is why pdf was designed so it works for print and also for viewing on the desktop
[05:56] <Agent_bob> and sucks in general for viewing on the desktop
[05:56] <nuxil> indeed
[05:56] <nuxil> as i said.. ok for printing not for viewing
[05:57] <flaccid> um it comes down to the quality of the pdf and the viewer. i have read thick novels and manuals in pdf on my 15.4" notebook with kpdf or okular and its amazing
[05:57] <nuxil> with a zoom on 300 % i guess
[05:58] <Agent_bob> + side scrolling
[05:58] <flaccid> depends on how the pdf is made and the quality and use of vectors/true type fonts etc
[05:58] <nuxil> :p
[05:58] <flaccid> ctrl + mouse wheel = quick way to required zoom
[05:59] <Agent_bob> oh buy new hardware to support the new software you say M$ ???
[05:59] <flaccid> heh where did that come from?
[05:59] <Agent_bob> my lappy didn't come with a scroll wheel
[06:00] <flaccid> thats just a default shortcut on a lot of platforms. do you have a scroll thing in the touchpad?
[06:00] <Agent_bob> nope  that's what i just said.
[06:01] <flaccid> well depending on your pdf document viewer, it should have zoom and kpdf you can configure shortcuts etc.
[06:01] <Agent_bob> i can zoom  but it's still a pain, and awkward, and i'm too lazy to use pdf ...
[06:02] <nuxil> to bad pdftohtml cant convert properly :(
[06:02] <Agent_bob> give me plain text.     if there is a pic. add the jpg or png or what ever   and i might look at,    or i might not.
[06:03] <Agent_bob> *totxt
[06:04] <flaccid> nuxil: well there is obviously more work to do in that project. i wouldn't expect there to be a good pdf to html converter yet considering the difference in technologies
[06:05] <nuxil> not only more work to be done.. ALOT more work has to be done.
[06:05] <flaccid> to some extent there is fuzzy logic/AI in the code because it has to work out how it is going to layout the existing pdf documents objects in html/css ..
[06:05] <flaccid> nuxil: why are you converting pdftohtml?
[06:06] <nuxil> bc i cant stand reading pdf.
[06:06] <Agent_bob> cause he doesn't like pdf
[06:06] <Agent_bob> same reason i have a few times
[06:06] <flaccid> hehe. maybe google's engine is good enough
[06:06] <flaccid> well if the author made a crap pdf then i don't believe you, but it aint the pdf standard's fault
[06:07] <nuxil> flaccid, sure it is.. i found a book on knowfree.net. been searchin for day for a html one without lucj
[06:07] <Agent_bob> don't believe me/us ???
[06:07] <Agent_bob> :)
[06:08] <flaccid> um well like i said if the pdf aint good then its the same as someone making a crap web page, its just a dif medium
[06:09] <Agent_bob> in my case i think it's probably more the app used to view the pdf.   i have only tried "acrobat reader, kpdf, xpdf and something gnome defaults too"    all were total crap imo.
[06:10] <nuxil> well.. i rather have this book as a crapy html code than reading this pdf.. tobad pdftohtml puts text ontop of eachoter
[06:10] <nuxil> it becomes unreadeble
[06:10] <flaccid> nuxil: you could manually overwrite that with css/user stylesheet
[06:10] <nuxil> 643 pages
[06:10] <nuxil> :(
[06:11] <flaccid> nuxil: could be done with 1 css selector like body { line-height: 2em }
[06:11] <chipbuddy> i'm using 7.10 right now and all the graphics stuff is working great. But earlier when i was using 8.04 i had a really tough time will all the eye candy. Why are things so different between these two versions?
[06:11] <flaccid> Agent_bob: i guess you are a text man
[06:12] <Agent_bob> i guess
[06:13] <Agent_bob> chipbuddy cause they made the newer version more automatic for you, so that it "just works"
[06:13]  * flaccid sings a song 'text man, text man..'
[06:14] <chipbuddy> agent_bob: how thoughtful of them. is there any way i can use 8.04 without their help in this regard?
[06:14] <Fieldy> hello, in the network configuration, i am trying to connect to my wireless router, which is using wpa2. i only see options for wep, is there something I can do to bring wpa2 support?
[06:15] <Agent_bob> chipbuddy not sure.   depends on your expertez3e   to some degree.
[06:15] <nuxil> !wpa
[06:15]  * nuxil forgot the bot is down
[06:16] <Fieldy> thanks for trying :) i'll try again later
[06:16] <chipbuddy> Agent_bob: well, i definitely do not have 1337 skills
[06:16] <Agent_bob> bot is down ???   O.0
[06:16] <Agent_bob> chipbuddy well   short answer is   "not easily"   then.
[06:17] <nuxil> Fieldy, look into wpa_supplicant and wpa_passphrase
[06:17] <Fieldy> nuxil: yep. i looked for both in add/remove programs but there were no matches
[06:17] <Agent_bob> chipbuddy you could stick where you are until the next release and see if it is any "less helpful" in that reguard.   it might actually "just work" for you.
[06:18] <chipbuddy> ok... so given that i'm really not super clever with all this linux stuff, am i really missing out on anything important?
[06:18] <Agent_bob> it's only two monthes
[06:18] <Agent_bob> chipbuddy no.   you are not missing out on anything but "hype"   imo.
[06:19] <chipbuddy> oh snap... i was wondering when they were going to add "hype"... ok i'm going back to 8.04
[06:20] <nuxil> Fieldy, surely  wpa supplicant is in the repos
[06:20] <Agent_bob> a new release means, means new issues and new bugs    the best one can hope for is that the same old bugs and issues are not just added too
[06:20] <nuxil> Fieldy, did you edit /etc/network/interfaces
[06:20] <Fieldy> nuxil: i would have thought so too, i searched for 'wpa' as well as 'supplicant' with no results
[06:20] <Fieldy> nuxil: nope
[06:21] <Fieldy> new kubuntu user, if that is expected, i wouldn't know
[06:21] <Agent_bob> wpasupplicant - Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)
[06:21] <Agent_bob> in the repos    ^
[06:21] <Fieldy> strange. is using add/remove programs th e right way?
[06:21] <chipbuddy> so for anyone who cares to answer: what one thing do you think kde does better than gnome?
[06:22] <nuxil> Fieldy, use adept_manager
[06:22] <Agent_bob> try a konsole  and type in     sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant
[06:22] <chipbuddy> er... wait... i meant: please name one specific thing you feel kde does better than gnome
[06:22] <nuxil> or that
[06:22] <Fieldy> okay; that system is on the other side of the room, brb
[06:22] <Agent_bob> chipbuddy configurability
[06:22] <Agent_bob> chipbuddy right click anything in kde     or more specificly   right click everything in kde
[06:23] <matthew__> kde has a more integrated feel to it where as gnome uses all kinds of applications (it even uses the KDE webdev application)
[06:24] <nuxil> Fieldy, go to ubuntu forums. its explain in details there howto get it up and running,,
[06:25] <emmy_> ¡Nos vemos!
[06:25] <nuxil> was is das
[06:25] <Fieldy> nuxil: okay, i'll do that tomorrow; i've run out of time for tonight. thanks
[06:26] <nuxil> np
[06:26] <Fieldy> nice to see suspend on my laptop "just work" -- I have not seen any other distro do it without hardhanging it.
[06:26] <Fieldy> nite :)
[06:26] <Agent_bob> yom
[06:31] <nuxil> haha Okular speaks the pdf for with with a nice female voice .
[06:31]  * nuxil relaxes and listens
[06:33] <bennybasher> any tips for configing a dell laptop for suspend or hibernate?
[06:33] <bennybasher> mine hard hangs
[06:35] <LanceMartin> My machine can't find the modem
[06:38] <LanceMartin> Are there any good modem dialing programs
[06:46] <kblin> morning folks
[06:47] <kblin> can somebody tell me what I need to do to get a dialup connection to show up in knetworkmanager?
[06:47] <flaccid> !dialup | kblin
[06:47] <flaccid> damn. kblin not sure if you can
[06:47] <kblin> I've set up kppp via options->configure->dialup
[06:48] <kblin> but the "dial-up connections" menu stays empty
[06:48] <flaccid> oh true
[06:48] <kblin> I can of course start kppp manually, but then networkmanager thinks the system is still offline\
[06:49] <kblin> which can be worked around by sending dcop signals or simply shutting down knetworkmanager, but it's annoying
[07:07] <yao_ziyuan> how do i know the path to kde3 installation?
[07:08] <yao_ziyuan> i downloaded and compiled and make, make install "Alloy KDE3 style & kwin" from http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Alloy+(KDE+3.2)?content=10605 , but it seems the installed Alloy doesn't show up in Appearance
[07:17] <yao_ziyuan> solved
[07:17] <yao_ziyuan> kde-config --prefix
[07:18] <Kubuntiac> 1/2 the time when I boot lspci sees my Audigy soundcard, 1/2 the time it doesn't. Any ideas anyone?
[07:22] <dwidmann> Hmm, why when I start certain applications from the shell, they're "tied" to it, and "die with it", while, other apps either only use it to print debugging information and are independent or detach completely?
[07:25] <chull> ive never seen a write permission error for open office, it's saying some other user is editing my open office.. i use oo a  lot for everything and have several sessions open .. but all me. how do i get rid of the error?
[07:36] <petyrc> I'm new to unbuntu. Just bought a dell 530 with it installed. How do install monitor drivers?
[07:45] <timo> looks like the *buntu gurus that usually hang out here is offline and/or sleeping.
[07:49] <timo> petyrc, usually it uses the best drivers automatically. if its messed up beyond what you can change with System Settings > Monitor&Display > hardware  I would try look into X config stuff. -you'll probably find two tons of tutorials/howto's on google
[07:49] <yuji> petyrc: do you mean your regular display drivers?
[07:50] <timo> kubuntu uses open source drivers / configuration, which it downloads automatically when you upgrade your system, from the repositories.
[07:51] <petyrc> Dell drivers for 22in monitor. I also want to change the refresh rate which is at 60.  This make my eyes very tired.
[08:00] <needhelp> !skype
[08:11] <needhelp> !apt
[08:11] <needhelp> helo
[08:12] <dwidmann> petyrc: if you can find out the hsync and vrefresh values for the monitor, it'll be trivial to force X to use them
[08:13] <dwidmann> petyrc: (hsync = horizontal sync, vrefresh = vertical refresh)
[08:13] <dwidmann> petyrc: googling the monitor's model number might net you these values
[08:14] <petyrc> thanks for the help. will try your advice
[08:51] <nickolaus_> anyone here?
[08:53] <nickolaus_> I just installed alot of kde stuff and now when I rebooted it crashes about a minute into the load.
[09:34] <intreq> hi guys, how is it going with ur day?
[09:42] <creative> if you want to go to a directory named: untitled folder what is the command  - cd untitled folder doesnt work - what am i missing?
[09:50] <emilsedgh> creative: cd untitled\ folder
[09:50] <emilsedgh> creative: use autocomplete, it helps you
[09:50] <emilsedgh> !autocomplete
[09:54] <sunshine> Hey you guys
[09:55] <sunshine> i get a bluetooth device in my laptop, but i could not find out anything about the vendor. As far as i can see there is no activation
[09:55] <sunshine> i couldn't find anything with lsusb and lspci
[09:55] <sunshine> there is no bluetooth device, but the bluetooth led is on
[09:56] <Maho> Is there a way, to execute a script if a specific network-interface (eth0 for example) get's available?
[09:57] <stefano> ciao come funziona qua
[09:58] <sunshine> bluez-utils and related stuff is installed
[10:00] <warlock> hola
[10:01] <warlock> alguien sabe si la impresora epson stylus dx4400 funciona instalandole los drivers
[10:01] <warlock> vaya mierda de impresora
[10:01] <creative> in a directory structure - how do you go one step back e.g. /home/rich/www i tried with cd.. to go to /home/rich
[10:01] <sunshine> cd ../
[10:02] <warlock> la tinta me dijo el de la tienda que no venia llena. pero esque no me dio ni para imprimir 11 folios
[10:03] <warlock> ya veo que a nadie mas han engañado con la impresora esa jeje
[10:03] <creative> thanks  - i was writing cd../ :-)
[10:05] <creative> i'm not able to view any movies on ytube - i have flash installed, but somehow it doesnt work - i just get a white box when i click on the movie - anybody know what could be wrong here?
[10:06] <sunshine> !bluetooth
[10:48] <llhoir> hi all
[10:48] <llhoir> i have a questioon regarding kde4 plasmoids compilation
[10:48] <llhoir> i still can not compile any plasmoid, dued to QT apparently
[10:49] <llhoir> CMake Error at /usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake:1038 (message):
[10:49] <llhoir>   Qt compiled without support for -fvisibility=hidden.
[10:49] <llhoir> etc etc
[10:49] <llhoir> is it known issue ?
[10:50] <llhoir> i run kde4.1 upgraded since alpha1, on hardy
[10:50] <llhoir> so is there any issue with Qt compiled ?
[10:50] <llhoir> for hardy
[10:50] <Agent_bob> !kde4 | llhoir if the bot's online, then an infonode will follow
[10:50] <llhoir> !kde4
[10:51] <Agent_bob> i guess the bot is down.
[10:51] <llhoir> :)
[10:51] <Agent_bob>   maybe not.
[10:51] <llhoir> ha ok
[10:52] <Agent_bob> about how much ram would it take to run three xservers with kde in one gnome in another and something else in another ?
[10:55] <tmo> is Kubuntu 8.10 with KDE 4 or 3.5.9?  Google results indicate both, so thought Id ask..
[10:57] <Agent_bob> i think both is correct
[10:58] <Agent_bob> if you mean which will be the default de  that i'm not sure.   4 i think
[10:59] <Agent_bob> hmm can't get fluxbox to fire up
[11:00] <Agent_bob> anyone know if it accepts --display ?
[11:01] <dwidmann> Agent_bob: I would try "xinit startfluxbox -- :0 vt7" or similar
[11:01] <tmo> yeah, thats what I ment. I think. :) Im trying to find a new-to-linux-friendly distro that doesnt use KDE4.
[11:02] <Agent_bob> dwidmann well :3 vt8  but ok...
[11:03] <acke> hey guys, i just installed kubuntu-desktop. and I am trying to access kubuntu through remote login, i can do a connection with krfb, but it crasches when after about 1 sec each time. so i tried using vncserver, but that takes me to gnome desktop. do you have any ideas on how to get to kde remote?
[11:03] <Edulix> hi
[11:03] <Edulix> is it safe to upgrade directly from feisty to hardy?
[11:04] <Agent_bob> tmo ubuntu
[11:05] <Agent_bob> Edulix define safe
[11:05] <dwidmann> edulix, probably not, you're supposed to "hit all the bumps in the road", only try to shoot straight through if you know exactly what you're doing and how to fix the mess
[11:05] <Agent_bob> acke adjust your ~/.dmrc  ?
[11:05] <Agent_bob> acke or ~/.session*
[11:08] <Edulix> ok, so I'll upgrade first to gutsy
[11:09] <Obsoletist> edulix, I am just now getting comfortably into the mediocre 'user' skill level, but I have had no problems with hardy.  it's been good and stable, with few exceptions.  Also, the upgraded look and feel has been worth the very few minor inconveniences I've faced.
[11:09] <Edulix> I'm feeling brave, two upgrades in a row seems like complete disaster waiting to happen
[11:09] <Edulix> Obsoletist: I use hardy too in my pc, this is about my mums pc :P
[11:10] <Obsoletist> Edulix:  Ah, I see! If she is into shiny, then the newest version is the way to go.  However...if she's as good with computers as MY mom...go with the tried and true, give this one a few more months.
[11:13] <Obsoletist> Anyone... would my monthly subscription "we assign you a username and pword" type connection screw up my Kmail?  I am trying to set it up, as I have 3 email accounts I
[11:13] <Obsoletist> ...would like to keep tabs on
[11:15] <acke> Agent_bob my .dmrc has kdm. and i dont have any .session in my home dir... :P what would i do then?
[11:15] <Edulix> she've got me to help her, and she's not bad with computers. actually even once learnt to use basic, and he used punched cards in university xD
[11:16] <Obsoletist> Wow! She's probably better than me, and with you there? Shoot, no problem!  My issues with Hardy were very minor, and were all solved with nothing more than ctrl alt bksp
[11:17] <Obsoletist> ...well, excluding issues with these notorious Toshiba Satellites, this model of satellite had sound card issues
[11:19] <Agent_bob> Obsoletist intel hda
[11:19] <Agent_bob> ?
[11:22] <Agent_bob> ache ummm you could make one.    echo startkde > .xsession
[11:23] <acke> thx
[11:23] <acke> so what do i do with the .xsession now then?
[11:23] <Agent_bob> fluxbox refuses to start for me.    i have tried the startfluxbox script as well as the binary /usr/bin/fluxbox (which the script calls)   with and without  xinit
[11:25] <Agent_bob> acke do with it ?      you login as before when it started gnome   it should now start kde
[11:25] <Agent_bob> keyword should
[11:27] <yakuzi> i'm wondering something: i just got an update for the xorg intel driver while i don't have an intel graphic card so i checked which xorg drivers were installed on my system and they are a lot of them...while i have an ati card and use the proprietary driver, can i remove all drivers except fglrx, mesa and some other basic drivers?
[11:28] <yakuzi> remove safely i mean because i want to avoid such updates in the future
[11:32] <Agent_bob> yakuzi better leave xserver-xorg-driver-vesa  as a fallback
[11:32] <Deepthought> !nl
[11:32] <acke> Agent_bob: hehe it worked thank a lot man...
[11:33] <yakuzi> i wasn't planning on removing that basic driver...only stuff like sis and voodoo
[11:33] <Agent_bob> hmm that's not too bad.  4 xservers running with 4 different desktops                                   Memory Used/Total Percent: 116/502 MB (23%)
[11:33] <Agent_bob> Swap   Used/Total Percent: 0/0 MB (0%)
[11:36] <K-CRON> 0% swap usage XD
[11:36] <Agent_bob> acke welcome
[11:37] <Agent_bob> K-CRON yeah i don't use swap.
[12:06] <baudthief> Would Kubuntu run decently on an inspiron 8600 laptop? (1.6GHz centrino, 512MB Ram)
[12:06] <unclean> Yes
[12:06] <unclean> Runs fine on my AMD 1.2
[12:07] <unclean> 1GB RAM
[12:07] <baudthief> would compiz be pushing it :P
[12:07] <baudthief> as in fusion
[12:12] <baudthief> worth a shot - this is for a former windows user that wants to try linux out
[12:12] <baudthief> unclean: Is it reasonably responsive on your setup?
[12:16] <unclean> yea i just changed a few days ago
[12:16] <unclean> very happy
[12:17] <Obsoletist> baudthief:  I ran Kubuntu Gutsy on my 1.6 with 512, and it worked very well, better response time than XP...and I won't even mention Vista, except that I just did.  I...I just want to bury those memories...
[12:17] <unclean> with ubuntu you can d/l the iso and burn it to cd
[12:17] <Obsoletist> Unclean...sing the praises!
[12:18] <unclean> the cd with let you test out ubuntu
[12:19] <unclean> YOu'll prolly want to switch to KDE once it's installed
[12:21] <baudthief> Obsoletist: haha
[12:38] <junkY_San> hi, i'm trying to install kubuntu on a 2gb hd. is it possible to select packages during installation?
[12:56] <marxo> kan iemand mij helpen?
[12:56] <ReckaH> your on a english channel
[12:56] <marxo> I m sorry
[12:56] <ReckaH> for dutch see #ubuntu-nl
[12:56] <marxo> Can some one help me
[12:57] <ReckaH> just ask the question
[12:57] <marxo> Yhis is my first time on IRC whit Konversation but how can i get a channel list
[12:58] <_2> !nl
[12:58] <marxo> bedankt
[12:58] <ReckaH> gewoon /list in het tekst vak
[13:20] <knusperfrosch> hi!
[13:20] <knusperfrosch> i've got a dualhead setup here with a intel onboard graphics device using a virtual screen. can i configure kwin to show a button that sends a window from one screen to the other?
[13:32] <noaXess> hey all
[13:33] <noaXess> what smartphone do kubuntu people use also for syncing with kubuntu?
[13:39] <acornstar> hello!
[13:39] <acornstar> I'm trying to install a webcam, and I tried installing EasyCam and followed the websites instructions, but cant seem to get it
[13:39] <acornstar> i have the drivers
[13:43] <marcin> hello
[13:44] <marcin> how can i change ubuntu in kubuntu?
[13:44] <marcin> whitout reinstall
[13:44] <marcin> its posible?
[13:45] <Pici> marcin: You want to change to to Kubuntu or to Ubuntu?
[13:46] <marcin> to kubuntu look
[13:46] <marcin> whit delphin and other
[13:46] <marcin> aplications
[13:47] <bry3n> #ubuntu-fr
[13:47] <serzholino> marcin: kde4 or kde3 ?
[13:47] <serzholino> for kde3 just install kubuntu-desktop package
[13:48] <acornstar> no help with webcam driver installation?
[13:48] <marcin> kde 3
[13:49] <serzholino> for kde4.1 install kubuntu-kde4-desktop but first you will need to add extra package sources, see here http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1
[13:49] <marcin> kde 4 is bether
[13:49] <marcin> ?
[13:49] <marcin> than 3
[13:49] <marcin> ?
[13:49] <|FoxIII|> Hey all. Just had to do a re-install of HH with KDE4.0, then upgrade to 4.1 and I have no sound! http://paste.ubuntu.com/34414 for info. The first line is all that mentions about sound. Cheers. :)
[13:49] <serzholino> 3 is more stable and polished
[13:49] <serzholino> 4.1 was just released
[13:50] <serzholino> will be default in intrpid
[13:50] <marcin> hm mayby ill try kde 4
[13:50] <serzholino> better wait for interpid
[13:50] <dwidmann>  no need to choose, install both and then decide :)
[13:50] <marcin> but if i crash my linux how can i reper?
[13:50] <marcin> XD
[13:51] <serzholino> it wont
[13:51] <marcin> ok i trust u :D
[13:51] <serzholino> if you fail to login in kde4 session, just select kde3 or gnome session
[13:51] <marcin> ok
[13:52] <marcin> sudo install kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[13:52] <marcin> ?
[13:53] <serzholino> first add sources as described here http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1
[13:53] <marcin> ok
[13:54] <serzholino> then sudo aptitude install kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[13:54] <Pici> !kde4
[14:01] <Lunchbreak^> Where do I find drivers for my graphic card (earlyer used with windows) to Kubuntu?
[14:04] <serzholino> Lunchbreak^: should be shipped with distro
[14:04] <serzholino> and installed out of the box
[14:05] <Lunchbreak^> I downloaded Kubuntu and burned an installation disk... you mean Kubunt finds the drivers automatically?
[14:05] <rav> hello. I'm setting up compiz, with 4 desktops. But when I click on the pager's to go to the third desktop, it brings me back to the first
[14:06] <marcin> so i must first add this to sources.list
[14:06] <marcin> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/?
[14:06] <[pyro]> rav: you need to make sure you have 4 desktops setup in your compiz config
[14:07] <Lunchbreak^> Are there any diagnostic tool like PCWizard for Kubuntu/Linux?
[14:07] <rav> [pyro]: in ccsm, there's a slider for number of desktops, but it seems to be locked at a value of 1
[14:08] <[pyro]> yeah there is another slider under it (i cant remember what its called), which you need to make 4 as well
[14:08] <Lunchbreak^> Does programs for other Linux versions (Ubuntu/Red Hat etc) work with Kubuntu?
[14:08] <[pyro]> then you will be able to move the 1st slider (going by memory here)
[14:08] <rav> [pyro]: there are 3 sliders: Horizontal virtual size, Vertical virtual size and number of Desktops
[14:09] <dwidmann> Lunchbreak^: ubuntu and kubuntu use the same packages/same repositories
[14:10] <mati> Hi, I am newbie with linux, I installed it few days ago but I can't get sound working... I tried to find solution on google but nothing helps. Can someone help me, please?
[14:10] <mati> My sound card is Realtek
[14:10] <[pyro]> rav: i think you need to set Horizontal Virt size to 4, then set Number of Desktops to 4
[14:10] <revolutionize> i was woundering something, is there a way to put linux os in creative zen vplus???
[14:11] <serzholino> Lunchbreak^: ubuntu and kubuntu use common package archive
[14:11] <rav> [pyro]: didn't work
[14:11] <revolutionize> is there a way to put linux on a creative zen media player device?
[14:12] <[pyro]> rav: its on that screen, have a play with the sliders, i cant remember what combination but i remember i had to move one before i could move the other one. I found compiz to buggy with my vid card so i uninstalled it, otherwise id check my settings.
[14:12] <rav> [pyro]: thanks
[14:13] <mati> Can someone help me, please?
[14:14] <ubunturos> mati: which motherboard?
[14:14] <mati> Abit AB9
[14:14] <ubunturos> mati: oh, ok. Which Realtek sound card?
[14:15] <mati> ummm... I don't know :/
[14:16] <ubunturos> mati: did you play sample .ogg files, while in the LIVE CD mode?
[14:16] <ahox> Hi, does anyone know how to get a full fontname from a open type fontfile?
[14:16] <ahox> in a script
[14:16] <giuseppe> un estate al mare
[14:17] <mati> No, I've never played ogg, Im jsut trying to paly mp3 files
[14:17] <Guest61482> chi ha questo film
[14:17] <mati> The funny thing is that system sounds worked after installation, but they don't now :/
[14:18] <[pyro]> mati: have you installed the required additional packages to play MP3 files?
[14:18] <ubunturos> mati: suprising! try playing a .ogg file, and see if it works
[14:19] <mati> Ok, ill try
[14:19] <marcin> i have kubuntu in synaptic
[14:20] <ubunturos> marcin: what's that? Isn't it the reverse?
[14:20] <Gogool^> I got this error after installing Kubuntu: GRUB loading please wait, Error 18
[14:21] <mati> Nope, ogg files don't work too
[14:21] <ubunturos> mati: looks like the sound server didn't start. May be log off once, restart and check again
[14:21] <ubunturos> mati: that though, is called as the worst advice
[14:21] <mati> I have this problem for few days already, so I logged off/restarted system a couple of times already
[14:22] <ubunturos> mati: hmm, ok.
[14:22] <ubunturos> mati: I'm not really sure, what the solution could be.
[14:23] <mati> Ehhhhh... Since sound worked after installation I think that system reinstall is the only solution for me ;/
[14:23] <ubunturos> Gogool^: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml
[14:24] <Gogool^> thanks
[14:24] <mati> But thanks anyway
[14:24] <ubunturos>  mati: do you get a "dialog box" stating, that the sound server didn't start when you log in?
[14:24] <mati> nope
[14:24] <ubunturos> mati: which version of Kubuntu?
[14:25] <mati> I checked kmix, my sound settings also seem to be ok
[14:25] <mati> 8.04
[14:25] <ubunturos> mati: oh, ok.
[14:25] <Gogool^> What does "the front" means? : "Try an update for your BIOS and/or move your boot partition to the front"
[14:25] <ubunturos> mati: may be those who know a solution, aren't around :(
[14:25] <ubunturos> Gogool^: do you have more than one Hard disk? (and installed Kubuntu on second hard disk?)
[14:26] <jaro> anybody from slovakia?
[14:27] <Gogool^> ubunturos: I have only 1 harddisk - 250 GB
[14:27] <ubunturos> Gogool^: how old is your BIOS?
[14:27] <Gogool^> ubunturos: can I see that in the BIOS?
[14:28] <ubunturos> Gogool^: not really, but you may see the date, on the "FIRST" screen that appears when you boot. (The "energy" symbol on your monitor, your "FIRST" screen)
[14:29] <Gogool^> CMOS Setup utility - Copyright 1984-2001 Award Software.
[14:29] <ubunturos> Gogool^: that's just a copyright notice. DO you remember, when you purchased this computer?
[14:32] <Gogool^> Probably between 2000-2001. Its a Pentium 4 from Fujitsu Siemens, with Microsoft Windows Millennium,
[14:32] <ubunturos> Gogool^: may be you have an older BIOS, and the partition is far from the initial sectors of the HDD
[14:33] <ubunturos> partition, on which / is installed, Gogool^,
[14:33] <ubunturos> Gogool^: is it a IDE disk?
[14:34] <Gogool^> First option when installing was 2 partitions, but I choosed only one
[14:34] <ubunturos> Gogool^: I didn't understand what you just said.
[14:34] <Gogool^> Western Digital Enchached IDE Drive it sais
[14:35] <ubunturos> !who | Gogool^,
[14:35] <Gogool^> ok sorry
[14:36] <Gogool^> !ubunturos When installing Kubuntu there was some option regarding the partition, the default was the first option (2 partitions), but I choosed the 3:rd I think.. only one partition
[14:37] <ubunturos> Gogool^: hmm, :-?
[14:37] <rav> Gogool^: did you install over windows?
[14:38] <Gogool^> !rav It was an NTFS volume without operating system, just some data storage
[14:39] <rav> Gogool^: when I installed Kubuntu, it defaults to using just the empty space on disk. You probably will have to reinstall, and make sure you choose to use the entire disk for the partitions
[14:39] <Gogool^> I did choose the entire disk
[14:40] <Gogool^> !rav should I just go for the default?
[14:40] <Gogool^> Why do I get this?: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[14:41] <rav> Gogool^: when you put ! before a word, ubottu thinks it's a command to it
[14:41] <Gogool^> how to just write to you then?
[14:41] <appletree> hi2all
[14:42] <rav> Gogool^: just type my nick, like I type yours
[14:42] <Gogool^> rav: ok
[14:42] <Gogool^> rav: so I will reinstall now with the CD
[14:42] <Gogool^> rav: not updating / reconfigurating the BIOS first?
[14:43] <rav> Gogool^: i think that will be easier than trying to fix master boot record, or something like that
[14:43] <rav> Gogool^: you could check your BIOS and make sure it has that hard drive bootable
[14:44] <Gogool^> rav: its booting from th eHD now... I get the Kubuntu installation screen
[14:44] <Gogool^> rav: soory, I mean its booting from the CD hehehe...
[14:45] <skii> i have got a problem
[14:46] <ubunturos> !ask | skii:
[14:46] <skii> i am trying to install linux in/on my portible media player creative zen v plus but i don't know how to, can anyone help me out?
[14:47] <rav> Gogool^: what version of Kubuntu are you using?
[14:47] <Gogool^> 8.04
[14:47] <bry3n> Can you help me to make a tutorial ?
[14:47] <skii> i don't know
[14:48] <bry3n> TO precise this tuto:    http://linux-facile.blogspot.com/2007/08/un-fond-cran-bien-terrestre.html
[14:48] <flaccid> this chan is kubuntu support
[14:48] <Gogool^> rav: its installing now but I got the following rows: Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0
[14:48] <Gogool^> rav: maybe I should put a 40 GB harddrive in th ecomputer instead
[14:49] <rav> Gogool^: seems like a hardware problem, yes
[14:49] <skii> can anyone help me out?
[14:49]  * flaccid gives skii a lollipop\
[14:49] <skii> i don't think i need that kind of help flaccid
[14:50] <flaccid> then specify or suffer from lollipop goodness!
[14:50] <rav> skii: I don't really know how do you do that, but I guess it's similar to installing on USB drives, and I've seen tutorials about that online.
[14:50] <flaccid> oh i see your question skii
[14:51] <flaccid> !usb | skii
[14:51] <skii> but usb drives r different from a protible media device, arnt they?
[14:51] <Gogool^> rav: the harddrives that were on the comoputer before has theese lables "Ultra ATA", and "AT disk drive"
[14:51] <flaccid> usb is portable media
[14:52] <skii> i have seen tutorrials on usb flash drives but i don't think for what i'm try'n to do though
[14:53] <skii> so can anyone help me out?
[14:53] <flaccid> skii: n what way?
[14:53] <skii> cuz my creative zen v plus is only 2gig
[14:53] <faileas> er
[14:53] <faileas> its a bit more complex
[14:54] <skii> of how can i put linux on my creative zen v plus
[14:54] <skii> how is it more complex???
[14:54] <rav> Gogool^: I had trouble installing and running Kubuntu in a laptop, and it was because the hard disk had a damage sector
[14:54] <flaccid> skii: by following the links i pasted
[14:54] <faileas> there's UMS/Mass storage devices, which you can boot stuff off generally, and PTP based ones which you can't boot off
[14:54] <flaccid> mind you this is not for the newbie
[14:54] <faileas> you might wanna check which it is
[14:55] <Gogool^> rav: now I got theese choise 1): guided: change size on SCSI1(0,0,0) partition 1 (sda) and use freed up space
[14:55] <Gogool^> rav: 2): guided: use the whole disk
[14:55] <Gogool^> rav: 3): manuel
[14:55] <skii> i'm srry but the only link's i see that anyone did post for me was ubottu i don't see any link's that u did post srry
[14:55] <rav> Gogool^: pick 2
[14:56] <Gogool^> rav: thats what I did before too :/
[14:56] <skii> @ flaccid
[14:56] <flaccid> skii: i called ubottu, read the links and learn.
[14:56] <skii> ok
[14:56] <rav> Gogool^: that's why I think you have a hardware problem
[14:58] <Gogool^> rav: what is sda1 and sda5 ?
[14:58] <rav> Gogool^: the names of the partitions
[14:59] <Gogool^> rav: ext3 and swap then?
[14:59] <skii>  flaccid: the tutorial that u gave me is for a ubs stick & i don't want that srry to say
[15:00] <flaccid> skii: that is the only available, sorry. contact creative.
[15:00] <rav> Gogool^: yes, ext3 for root and home, and one swap partition
[15:00] <skii>  flaccid: it's kool
[15:00] <faileas> skii: a USB stick and a mp3 player that you can boot off are, as far as the tutorial is concerned, the same
[15:01] <skii>  does anyone else know how to put linux in/on a creative zen v plus???
[15:01] <flaccid> same to some, different to many
[15:01] <flaccid> skii: yeah google might be more chance than here, otherwise get a real usb disk
[15:01] <skii>  but i will like to run linux on my creative zen v plus though, do u know where i can find info on it?
[15:02] <flaccid> skii: no. if someone did they would of said.
[15:02] <skii>  flaccid: why do u need to have a attuide with me?  i don't have one with u so please don't have one with me, ok?
[15:03] <flaccid> !u | skii
[15:03] <flaccid> i don't have an attitude.
[15:03] <skii>  srry to say it does seem like that u do and i'm only look for help NOTH'N else
[15:04] <flaccid> im not sure what that means, sorry
[15:05] <skii>   to me it does seem that u do have an attuide with me and i'm only look'n for help with try'n to run linux straight off my creative zen v plus and i don't want to be on anyone's bad side, i'm a good guy NOT a bad guy.
[15:06] <faileas> skii: no, its more, if anyone knows, they will answer, and its polite to wait a couple of hours before trying again
[15:06] <flaccid> pretty much
[15:08] <skii>  that's fine with me since i only have had kubuntu for only about a week i guess that ppl that have had it longer can tell ppl off, i see, i guess the only thing for me a newbie with kubunti to learn by myself with NO ONES help then i guess
[15:08] <Guest95807> ola a todos
[15:09] <eagles0513875> !patience | skii
[15:09] <eagles0513875> !es Guest95807
[15:09] <eagles0513875> !es | Guest95807
[15:09] <eagles0513875> !ask | skii
[15:10] <Guest95807> ok
[15:10] <eagles0513875> Guest95807: lol you speak english or spanish lol
[15:10] <skii>  i am trying to find a way to run linux in/on/off my creative zen v plus can anyone help me out?
[15:11] <eagles0513875> skii: i know i cannot
[15:11] <skii>  but then no one know's the answer so it's kool
[15:11] <eagles0513875> skii: try in the #creative channel
[15:12] <eagles0513875> !pr | Guest95807
[15:12] <eagles0513875> whats the code for portugese
[15:12] <flaccid> !nvidia
[15:13] <eagles0513875> can someone point Guest95807 to the portugese rooms plz
[15:13] <bry3n> #ubuntu-fr
[15:13] <_CrashMaster_> !portuguese
[15:14] <Guest95807> #ubuntu-br
[15:19] <eagkles> !ghost
[15:19] <eagkles> mmmmmmmmm
[15:19] <eagkles> !ghost eagles0513875 623xvnqh48
[15:19]  * _CrashMaster_ makes a mental note of that password
[15:20] <eagles0513875> _CrashMaster_: ??
[15:20] <faileas> lol
[15:20] <_CrashMaster_> [09:19] <eagkles> !ghost eagles0513875 623xvnqh48
[15:20] <eagles0513875> _CrashMaster_: O_o
[15:20] <_CrashMaster_> might want to change the pwd, unless you were just screwing around
[15:20] <eagles0513875> was just screwing round
[15:21] <eagles0513875> and 2ndly brb need to reset my cable modem its being gay and internet is beeing really slow still
[15:24] <Clenfil> Ø
[15:25] <Clenfil> Alguem ai fala portugues
[15:26] <elgokulo> !portuguese
[15:31] <Clenfil> cc
[15:33] <trappist> hey is openjdk sun's jre open-sourced, or some other open source package?
[15:34] <trappist> nm found the answer, it's not from sun
[15:39] <Conundrum_> any idea what is the package name for the new kde 4.1 games?
[15:40] <jckl> anyone know a fix for   Nautilus cannot handle synce: locations.  ?
[15:54] <reagleBRKLN> when i open kate, how to I get the sidebar to be closed/collapsed. (I want it there, but just not "open")
[15:58] <vblanton> I was wondering if anyone here wanted to brainstorm on a possible new feature for dolphin
[15:58] <vblanton> (kde4)
[15:59] <vblanton> if you all have noticed, dolphin shows automatic backup files from unix (files starting with ~) and oxygen has made an icon for them that looks like a recycable paper
[15:59] <vblanton> sometimes, those automatic backup files can take up a lot of visual space in dolphin if your working with a lot of little files in one folder
[16:00] <vblanton> so the question is -- what is the *best* (tm) way of handling ~backup files?
[16:00] <vblanton> to show, or not to show? and how to show?
[16:01]  * faileas would think having it as an option would be best
[16:02] <tasos> can anybody please help me? I have a sound issue in Ubuntu, sound does not play
[16:02] <trappist> I second that opinion, with it off by default
[16:03] <vblanton> faileas: what do you think the default should be?
[16:04] <faileas> vblanton: to have it on by default, but make it obvious how to turn it off
[16:04]  * faileas likes backup/temp files where he can delete em ;p
[16:04] <vblanton> so, there should be a seperate option, alongside "show hiddden files" that says "show backup files" (or hide)
[16:04] <vblanton> would that be confusing?
[16:05] <faileas> not in my opinion
[16:06] <vblanton> o.k., i'm going to open a bug report so that this can be addressed for 4.2
[16:08] <mauro> hi
[16:08] <vblanton> man, so many people leaving and coming
[16:08] <mauro> could anybody recomend me a good irc for kde4
[16:08] <mauro> ?
[16:09] <vblanton> konversation is working on it's kde4 version... but it isn't out yet
[16:09] <mauro> konversation is good
[16:09] <mauro> I have used it
[16:09] <vblanton> it's what I use, but I still use the kde3 version
[16:10] <mauro> but i have some problems with kde4
[16:10] <mauro> the try feature isnot work correctrly
[16:11] <vblanton> try?
[16:12] <mauro> vblanton,
[16:12] <mauro> yes
[16:12] <vblanton> what is the try feature?
[16:12] <mauro> when you close an app
[16:13] <mauro> sorry
[16:13] <mauro> tray
[16:13] <vblanton> oh!
[16:13] <vblanton> hmm, strange. are you sure you have your systray on your panel? try adding it to the panel manually
[16:14] <mauro> vblanton, mmm
[16:14] <mauro> realy no
[16:14] <mauro> I kde4 is new for me
[16:15] <mauro> vblanton, but I am seeing some app in tray
[16:15] <vblanton> what does it look like?
[16:15] <mauro> like korganizer
[16:16] <vblanton> o.k., then it works
[16:16] <mauro> yes
[16:16] <vblanton> if you hover your mouse over it, it'll show the name
[16:16] <mauro> I think it is working
[16:16] <jussi01> Please use #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 support
[16:18] <frojnd> hello tehre
[16:18] <frojnd> there*
[16:18] <frojnd> anyone here :)
[16:18] <mauro> vblanton, I did a ps -xa | grep konversation
[16:18] <vblanton> we are, we are
[16:18] <frojnd> I have a little problem with setting getway IP on ubuntu
[16:19] <frojnd> I'm trying to do it command line
[16:19] <mauro> vblanton, it is working
[16:19] <vblanton> mauro: exellent, well.. I'm outa here :)
[16:19] <frojnd> when typing in: route the second line should be: default         192.168.2.8     0.0.0.0         UG    100    0        0 eth0
[16:19] <mauro> vblanton, but the systray doesn't show it :(
[16:19] <frojnd> but for me is: loopback        *               255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 lo
[16:20] <frojnd> I was trying to do it right way but with no luck
[16:23] <BenPa85> hi guys, can somebody tell me, where I can adjust the system volume? There is no control in the taskbar ...
[16:25] <BenPa85> there is even no widget that I could add ...
[17:05] <acke> hey guys, is there a tool to compare two directories? like beyond compare?
[17:05] <Conundrum_> hashing?
[17:08] <acke> Conundrum_: not sure about hashing, how does that work? I want to compare two directories with more directores and files. my photo collection is really messed up... and divided on different usb drives.
[17:10] <Conundrum_> sorry, am not so sure about that
[17:10] <ForgeAus> what directory is wallpapers in?
[17:13] <emons> hi guys yestarday i was talking to ScorpKing about my internet speed issues, i found a solution it was my UFW settings (which i didnt set cuz not able to but someone from this channel did, which of course i appreciated but apparantly it wasnt right)
[17:14] <emons> anyway now my internet goes very fast as it's supposed to but i still would like to make my UFW run, du no where i can find information about how to set it correctly?
[17:17] <emons> not at all, now its going slow again... that's stressful...
[17:17] <_Angelus_> guys i know this is probably not the best channel to ask at but im desperate
[17:18] <_Angelus_> im using kde3.5 not on kubuntu, and i have the suspend to ram and hibernate options missing from the logout menu, somebody here knows how to make them apear? what do i have to install?
[17:21] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all!
[17:22] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i add a path to sudo's PATH?
[17:22] <MetaMorfoziS> i ahve added it to /etc/profile and /root/.profile
[17:22] <MetaMorfoziS> and as a normal user it works
[17:22] <MetaMorfoziS> but if i try to get it with sudo, then it says command not found
[17:23] <arthur_> русские есть???
[17:24] <_Angelus_> im using kde3.5 not on kubuntu, and i have the suspend to ram and hibernate options missing from the logout menu, somebody here knows how to make them apear? what do i have to install?
[17:33] <sm1g> who's from europe and has bought something on eBay, please private message me, need a little help.
[17:36] <Freddy2> hi
[17:38] <wishie_> when i pressed the volume keys on my laptop, i used to have an on-screen display showing the current volume etc.. this is no longer working.. what could i have done wrong ?
[17:38] <Freddy2> i'm having a problem with the network manager in hardy: even if i add multiple dns servers only the first one remains at /etc/resolv.conf after rebooting
[17:38] <Freddy2> but i've seen my original file at /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d
[17:38] <Freddy2> which one is being used?
[17:49] <const> hi, i've just installed kubuntu, it looks like nice))
[17:52] <wishie_> my multimedia keys dont seem to work in KD as they did before, when i first installed kubuntu.. what could be wrong/missing ?
[17:52] <wishie_> they worked out of the box. now they dont.
[17:56] <jussio1> !wishie
[17:56] <abeetlott> hi / salut   i'm french....
[17:56] <abeetlott> and new on ubuntu
[17:56] <jussio1> !shortcuts | wishie_
[17:56] <jussio1> !fr
[17:57] <abeetlott> can someone help me to join a serv ? irc.hevenet.org
[17:57] <abeetlott> i can speak english ;)
[17:57] <Black_Monkey> abeetlott: type /server irc.hevenet.org
[17:57] <abeetlott> thanks
[17:58] <Black_Monkey> abeetlott: you can also add it to the File>Server List
[17:58] <abeetlott> ye ok but it ask me "network"... ?
[17:59] <Black_Monkey> network name, you can put whatever you want to call it
[17:59] <Black_Monkey> it's the "server list" that's important
[17:59] <abeetlott> lol.... i'm idiot
[17:59] <wishie_> jussio1: they worked out of the box though.. is there anyway to reset the keymapping to what they were originally ?
[17:59] <Black_Monkey> well, the "servers" box
[18:03] <lonran> hi everybody
[18:03] <ForgeAus> is kde4.1 in hardy-proposed?
[18:04] <lonran> a twitter client for kde?
[18:04] <ForgeAus> twitter client? don't you just browse to it?
[18:04] <ForgeAus> (ie in konqueror or firefox or whatever you have)
[18:04] <lonran> mmm nope
[18:04] <lonran> i mean a desktop client
[18:04] <ForgeAus> I don't use twitter anyway
[18:04] <ForgeAus> didn't know it had a separate app of its own
[18:06] <Black_Monkey> lonran: there's a plasmoid called "Twitter Microblogging"
[18:06] <Black_Monkey> in kde4
[18:07] <abeetlott> thanks for all, cya
[18:08] <ForgeAus> so maybe theres a superkaramba wiget?
[18:08] <ForgeAus> I know they're different things, but you never knwo...
[18:10] <bascule> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/ktwitter?content=65012
[18:13] <nzk> Alright, if I add a guest user, will they be competely cut off from my account's data and functions?
[18:13] <nzk> Like firefox and everything will be new instances, right?
[18:13] <judgen> what app was used to scan for screen modes_
[18:14] <judgen> ?
[18:22] <nzk> Is there a way to lock down a guest account so that they can *ONLY* access /home/guest
[18:40] <Lichte> I just installed kubuntu and X won't work unless I use failsafe mode; any ideas on what is wrong?
[18:40] <nuxil> Lichte, incorrect settings
[18:41] <josei> hola
[18:41] <Lichte> nuxil: xorg.conf looks fine
[18:41] <nuxil> Lichte, check the refresh rates
[18:41] <Lichte> nuxil: there aren't any set
[18:41] <nuxil> well that might be your problem
[18:42] <Lichte> that's not the problem, if that were the problem failsafe wouldn't word
[18:42] <nuxil> Lichte, look for lines like this in xorg.conf
[18:42] <Lichte> s/word/work
[18:42] <nuxil>     HorizSync       30.0 - 110.0
[18:42] <nuxil>     VertRefresh     50.0 - 150.0
[18:42] <Lichte> there are no lines for refresh rate
[18:42] <nuxil> then make them
[18:43] <Lichte> nuxil: I've done that, it doesn't matter
[18:43] <nuxil> Lichte, paste your Xorg log
[18:43] <Lichte> nuxil: that's not the problem
[18:43] <Freddy2> not here!!
[18:43] <nuxil> Lichte, ok. buts take a look in the logs
[18:44] <nuxil> Lichte, the resolution might also be to high.
[18:44] <Freddy2> Lichte: what card is yours?
[18:44] <Lichte> the X logs look fine too
[18:45] <Lichte> ATI onboard
[18:45] <Lichte> X1200
[18:45] <Lichte> the problem is in my .xsession-error
[18:45] <nuxil> Lichte, offcource it does.. you need to cp it when it fails.
[18:45] <Freddy2> uhhh, ati..
[18:45] <nuxil> or look in the old log
[18:45] <Freddy2> it will be a good choice probably next year, with radeonhd
[18:46]  * nuxil runs away from ati
[18:46] <Lichte> Fedora 9 runs just fine on this setup
[18:46] <nuxil> Lichte, try set the driver to vesa
[18:46] <carlos_> e?
[18:46] <nuxil> to test
[18:46] <Lichte> vesa won't work at all
[18:46] <carlos_> si que es dificil esto
[18:46] <nuxil> it should
[18:46] <Lichte> KDM won't even start on vesa
[18:46] <nuxil> !es
[18:46] <Lichte> well, it doesn't
[18:47] <nuxil> Lichte, thats strange
[18:47] <Lichte> I think vesa won't work with HDMI
[18:47] <nuxil> my card does
[18:47] <nuxil> but i have nvidia
[18:47] <Freddy2> you may have some.. mtrr problem?
[18:48] <Lichte> this seems to be a kubuntu prob
[18:48] <Lichte> Fedora starts just fine
[18:48] <WillMc> Hello all
[18:48] <nuxil> Lichte, have you tried set -x on kdm and log in with tty ?
[18:48] <nuxil> then use startx
[18:48] <Lichte> nuxil: I have logs in .xsession-error
[18:48] <nuxil> Lichte, just to eliminate kdm issue
[18:48] <Lichte> KDM starts just fine
[18:48] <Freddy2> Lichte: are you using fglrx?
[18:48] <Lichte> I cna't log in!
[18:49] <Lichte> Freddy2: not yet
[18:49] <Lichte> when I try to log in, KDM restarts
[18:49] <Lichte> I can only log in in failsafe mode
[18:49] <WillMc> Can someone help me with a dumb question?
[18:49] <maybeway36> Lichte: try logging in as a different user
[18:49] <nuxil> Lichte, tried to rm -rf ~/.kde ?
[18:49] <maybeway36> or with fluxbox
[18:49] <maybeway36> or something
[18:51] <Lichte> I just tried startx:  xinit:  connection to X server lost.
[18:51] <nuxil> bc ?
[18:51] <nuxil> more info needed
[18:51] <maybeway36> try xinit, see if it gives you an xterm
[18:51] <Freddy2> no message at xorg log?
[18:52] <nuxil> Lichte, grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:52] <Lichte> Unblank CRTC 0 success
[18:52] <dawid> hi
[18:52] <Lichte> (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM
[18:53] <Lichte> (EE) RADEON(0): No connected devices found!
[18:53] <Lichte> (EE) RADEON(0): Using VGA default
[18:53] <Lichte> that's it
[18:54] <nuxil> Lichte, did you try to spesify the pci bus in xorg.conf ?
[18:54] <Lichte> xinit works
[18:54] <nuxil> yea in vga mode
[18:54] <Lichte> nuxil: nope
[18:54] <nuxil> Lichte, you could try to do that
[18:54] <Lichte> will lspci show me that bus?
[18:55] <nuxil> usaly
[18:55] <Lichte> nope
[18:55] <nuxil> desg
[18:55] <nuxil> *dmesg
[18:55] <lginn02> anyone here good with eyecandy in kubuuntu?
[18:56] <nuxil> !superkaramba | lginn02
[18:56] <WillMc> If I try to play a game..It starts and then brings me back to desktop. Does anyone know why?
[18:56] <Lichte> hmmm, 01:05.2 maybe ?
[18:56] <maybeway36> WillMc: try running the game in terminal
[18:56] <Lichte> what is the syntax for xorg.conf ?
[18:57] <maybeway36> Lichte: complicated
[18:57] <lginn02> ya but what im wanting is themes for my windows. I saw something on there like dekorator,beryl
[18:57] <WillMc> It's been working..Just stopped.
[18:57] <Lichte> busid ?
[18:58] <Freddy2> lginn02: try compiz-fusion.. you can find a lot of install guides googling (i suggest you to avoid it if you don't have a nvidia or an intel card)
[18:58] <nuxil> Lichte, i dont remember. but something like: in driversection..  PCI   "3:0:0"
[18:58] <maybeway36> here's my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/34493/
[18:58] <maybeway36> using vesa drivers with 1024x768 res
[18:59] <lginn02> ok
[18:59] <nuxil> lginn02, for more eyecandy.. install kde4.1
[18:59] <lginn02> I have the superkaramba but i only thought i could use widgets with that
[18:59] <lginn02> is it stable
[19:00] <nuxil> ehhh,, are you kidding me..
[19:00] <nuxil> far from
[19:00] <nuxil> 4.2 will be
[19:01] <Lichte> well, setting BusID didn't work
[19:01] <maybeway36> kde 3.5 is stable :P
[19:02] <lginn02> is there a comand  line for upgrade my kde
[19:02] <maybeway36> lginn02: not from kde3 to kde4
[19:02] <daemon3_> Okay, I'm not a computer scientist, but I'd say that Konqueror has a memory leak.
[19:02] <maybeway36> but from kde4.0 to 4.1, yes
[19:02] <maybeway36> kubuntu.org should tell you how
[19:02] <daemon3_> Whenever I open konqueror, my system freezes, and I have about 1G of memory on an 80G hard drive.
[19:03] <lginn02> how do i get 4 im on the kde page but cant find a download
[19:03] <nuxil> daemon3_, kde4?
[19:03] <daemon3_> KDE 3.
[19:03] <dolo> does any one here have their own custom boot splash ?
[19:03] <maybeway36> lginn02: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1
[19:04] <nuxil> ok.. ther was an issue in kde4 with konqueror.. it didnt shut down the prosess after you quit it.. but in kde3 it should be bugfree
[19:04] <Lichte> maybeway36: how did you get your BusID setting?
[19:05] <daemon3_> Well, ever since the last Ubuntu update a few days ago (I think Friday), Konqueror has been freezing.
[19:05] <daemon3_> Of course, I can't really debug the problem.
[19:05] <maybeway36> I just used "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" on Ubuntu 7.10 and moved it to my new install
[19:05] <maybeway36> I think BusID might be optional, it will probably autodetect that
[19:05] <nuxil> dolo, after 3 days of asking . if you havent gotten an answer by now. i think you better read some manuals|forums|howtos
[19:05] <Lichte> maybeway36: mine isn't
[19:05] <maybeway36> hm
[19:06] <maybeway36> not sure then
[19:06] <Lichte> this sucks
[19:06] <maybeway36> you could try taking the busID part out and running Xorg with that config
[19:06] <Lichte> why doesn failsafe and xinit work ????
[19:06] <dolo> hey nuxil i read all that stuff before i started asking
[19:06] <maybeway36> You could run an old Ubuntu live CD 7.10 or earlier, then copy the xorg.conf from that
[19:06] <Lichte> they don't work  either
[19:07] <nuxil> dolo, if someone knew. i think they would help you.. i didnt mean to offend you,
[19:07] <Lichte> I'll try Fedora is the only thing that boots
[19:07] <Lichte> bbl
[19:07] <maybeway36> Lichte: use fedora :)
[19:08] <lginn02> ok it say that i need to add packages to my /ect/apt/sources.list   how do i do that?
[19:08] <dolo> naw its all good i just figure maybe if i came by and asked at differnt times i might run into some one that knows boot splash well and could help
[19:08] <nuxil> dolo, gentoo usaly have good howtos
[19:08] <maybeway36> lginn02: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:09] <dolo> is gentoo a person that comes here or you meen a webpage
[19:09] <lginn02> ok it says deb then a website. so do i put that in front of the command you gave me
[19:10] <nuxil> dolo, i mean the distro Gentoo
[19:10] <nuxil> dolo, they have a good wiki
[19:11]  * nuxil sips some coffee
[19:11] <lginn02> ok i got a website for the packages so just paste it anywhere in the sources.list
[19:12] <nuxil> oh elvis has entered the channel
[19:12]  * nuxil gets ready for some rocken roll
[19:13] <nuxil> :p
[19:17] <Lichte> well, Fedora has even less in it's xorg.conf, but it runs just fine
[19:17] <dolo> gentoo seems to be a differnt form of linux
[19:17] <nuxil> Lichte, try to copy that xorgfile and use it
[19:18] <Lichte> nuxil: I just did that
[19:18] <nuxil> dolo, it is, you compile stuff there. instead of installing precompiled apps
[19:18] <Lichte> nuxil: still can't log in
[19:18] <BraveSpear> Can anyone help with creating a LiveCD project I am working on?
[19:18] <nuxil> Lichte, ok.. tried with the ati driver
[19:19] <nuxil> !ati
[19:19] <Lichte> (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM
[19:19] <dolo> but id have to install it as my new os?
[19:19] <Lichte> could this be an apparmour error ?
[19:20] <Lichte> nuxil: Fedora uses the radeon driver
[19:20] <nuxil> dolo, no.. just read ther wiki.
[19:20] <Lichte> nuxil: I've tired the proprietary ATI driver and KDM won't even start
[19:20] <Lichte> there is something wrong in the guts of kubuntu
[19:21] <nuxil> Lichte, i cant help you more.. tried looking in the forums..
[19:21]  * nuxil uses nvidia
[19:23] <Lichte> well, time to install something else
[19:23] <Lichte> thanks for the help all
[19:24] <lginn02> ok im trying to follow the instructions on the page""http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1"" but cant figure out where to put the web site in the sources list. can someone please help??
[19:24] <White_Pelican> what's the problem exactly, lginn02 ?
[19:25] <snookie> anyone know what the terminal command is to start kde4?
[19:25] <snookie> equivalent of xfce-session
[19:26] <lginn02> ok i am told on the page to put the website for the new packages but dont know where to put them in the source.list i have a ton of other sites in there already that are in there own catagoreg
[19:26] <White_Pelican> just add it to the bottom
[19:27] <White_Pelican> as long as they are there
[19:27] <lginn02> then hit save right
[19:27] <White_Pelican> are you using nano or adept-manager?
[19:28] <lginn02> shell
[19:28] <lginn02> um adept
[19:29] <lginn02> but on the page i was given a command line for shell but keep getting an error
[19:32] <White_Pelican> hmmm
[19:32] <lginn02> error is "apt-get update can not be used to add new cdroms."" and i have no clue what that means
[19:33] <White_Pelican> perhaps you have multiple entries in sources.list
[19:34] <White_Pelican> personally I would edit your sources.list from the command line
[19:34] <White_Pelican> you can sudo nano /etc/apt/source.list
[19:35] <lginn02> whats that do?
[19:35] <White_Pelican> comment out all the references to the cdrom by putting a # before it on the line
[19:36] <White_Pelican> you can also copy and paste the deb line from the instructions down at the bottom
[19:36] <White_Pelican> have I confused you yet?
[19:36] <lginn02> im so confused, is there a way i can use a head set in irc to talk to you
[19:37] <White_Pelican> sorry  I don't have a head set
[19:37] <White_Pelican> maybe we should go private
[19:37] <White_Pelican> is that OK?
[19:37] <lginn02> ya
[19:39] <Nyad> hi, is there a way to make amarok behave like an alarm, so I can wake up to music in the morning?
[19:40] <wishie> is there a way to run a script (to mount hard disk shares) when connected to my home wifi network ?
[19:41] <BraveSpear> I have created a LiveCD based on Kubuntu Hardy for my employer.  I need to have some icons on the desktop, or at least somewhere the users can easily locate it.  I know the desktop is created on the fly during bootup, but don't know where I can have icons pulled in for the users.
[19:41] <nuxil> whitman, samba ? or nfs ?
[19:41] <wishie> nuxil: i assume you meant me.. nfs
[19:41] <Freddy2> Nyad: try atd
[19:42] <nuxil> wishie, whatabout  systemsettings -> sharing
[19:42] <wishie> nuxil: well, i have both nfs and samba sharing the same shares
[19:42] <wishie> nuxil: i want this laptop to mount my servers shares, only when on my home wifi network
[19:43] <nuxil> wishie, yes its possible.. but you need basic understanding of scripting
[19:43] <wishie> ie, when my laptop knows its on the "home" network, to mount my network shares
[19:44] <wishie> nuxil: i know bash scripting fairly well (well, good enough)
[19:44] <Nyad> Freddy2: is that a program?
[19:45] <BraveSpear> Anyone know how to add icons to the desktop of a LiveCD?
[19:45] <Freddy2> at-daemon.. you can schelude tasks in time (for example a script file launching amarok)
[19:45] <wishie> BraveSpear: is the user account created at boot time ?
[19:45] <nuxil> wishie, you can use iwgetid to check if your AP is connected
[19:45] <Freddy2> *schedule
[19:46] <wishie> nuxil: the other issue, would be cleanly unmounting, if network goes out of range
[19:46] <White_Pelican> BraveSpear, not sure you xan as they would disappear after you reboot
[19:46] <nuxil> wishie, that must be server sided scripted
[19:47] <BraveSpear> wishie: Yes, the user account is created at boot time.
[19:47] <wishie> BraveSpear: well, you can setup the users files in /etc/skel/ perhaps
[19:48] <Nyad> Freddy2: can you point me to some documentation on how to use it?
[19:48] <wishie> everything in /etc/skel/ is put in each new users home dir.
[19:48] <Freddy2> man at
[19:48] <BraveSpear> White_Pelican: I need them added to the LiveCD so they show up when the LiveCD boots.
[19:49] <White_Pelican> ah
[19:49] <nuxil> wishie, no way.. not server sided. just check signal/noise .. or ping.. is packet losses are greater than 30.. you unmount the share..
[19:49] <White_Pelican> that I'm not sure of as it runs off the CD and your hard drive as a result is not touched
[19:49] <nuxil> *no way.. no wait
[19:49] <Freddy2> be sure to have atd running (ps aux|grep atd)
[19:50] <BraveSpear> wishie: if I create a folder called Desktop in /etc/skel, and place the icons in there, would that add them to the desktop?
[19:50] <wishie> BraveSpear: if you have /etc/skel/Desktop/blah.txt and create a user called "test" there will be /home/test/Desktop/blah.txt
[19:51] <BraveSpear> White_Pelican: I have created a LiveCD based on Kubuntu, and need to add some icons so they show up when the cd boots.
[19:51] <Freddy2> Nyad: you can also use ktimer instead
[19:52] <White_Pelican> oh
[19:52] <White_Pelican> sorry, that's beyond my scope
[19:52] <BraveSpear> wishie: I'll give that a try now.
[19:52] <Freddy2> or even crontab if you prefer this way xD
[19:52] <ghuy> hello
[19:53] <Nyad> Freddy2:  which one is the more standard one that I'd find on any linux distro?
[19:53] <nuxil> wishie, so basicly  while [Oksignal] do sleep X.. if [Badsignal] then umount share
[19:53] <ghuy> has everyone the new KDE 4.1?
[19:53] <White_Pelican> I'm still on 3.5.9
[19:53] <wishie> BraveSpear: http://www.linfo.org/etc_skel.html
[19:53] <Freddy2> both atd and cron are very usual, but if you have kde running ktimer should be far easier for you
[19:53] <ghuy> ok because there are kinda lot of issues on this new one
[19:54] <wishie> nuxil: ill have to monitor AP and signal.. incase i suspend, blah blah.. but yeah, i get it.
[19:54] <nuxil> yup
[19:54] <Freddy2> ghuy: there ARE a lot of issues, sure
[19:55] <BraveSpear> White_Pelican: Thanks anyway.
[19:55] <White_Pelican> yvw
[19:55] <White_Pelican> I tried :)
[19:56] <nuxil> wishie, just one more thing, instead of making a script that loops,, use crond to check each 3 min or so.
[19:56] <ghuy> yea did u try to run firefox 3 on it?
[19:57] <spow> Is it me or google seems to be down?
[19:57] <spow> The whole net works, but google
[19:57] <Freddy2> it works here
[19:57] <wishie> here too
[19:57] <spow> Just came back here too
[19:57] <spow> But was down for like 2 mins
[19:58] <spow> Too bad, thought they got hacked ^^
[19:58] <spow> Cya
[19:58] <mjwild> Hi need help, when running adept manager I get a message , session already running, so I can not update any more
[20:00] <White_Pelican> do you have 2 iterations of adept running?
[20:00] <mjwild> no did reboot still same issue
[20:01] <mjwild> hread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[20:01] <mjwild> [New Thread 0xb656c6c0 (LWP 29871)
[20:02] <mjwild> got some errors in the KDE crash handler
[20:02] <wishie> nuxil: id be looking at iwconfig "Link Quality" for signal strength, right ?
[20:02] <nuxil> yes
[20:04] <BraveSpear> wishie: I'm creating the squashfs for the livecd now.. will create the iso and test.. will let you know how it works.
[20:04] <BraveSpear> Thanks for your help.
[20:05] <wishie> BraveSpear: no worries. if the user account is created at boot time, /etc/skel/* should be copied to /home/$USER/*
[20:05] <BraveSpear> wishie: If it works I'll owe you a beer
[20:05] <nuxil> wishie, or use ping to check for packet losses
[20:06] <wishie> nuxil: i think id rather go off link quality.. trying to get just the info i need now.. fighting with sed
[20:06] <nuxil> ex ping -I wlan0 -c 20 IP
[20:06] <nuxil> wishie, ok..
[20:07] <wishie> trying to get '97' from 'Quality=97/100'
[20:10] <wishie> think i got it.
[20:11] <nuxil> i never got the hang of sed.. i always use sed like 10 times to get rid of stuff
[20:11] <BraveSpear> wishie: it worked perfectly.  I owe you a beer, or your drink of choice.
[20:11] <nuxil> wishie, how does your sed expression look like?
[20:13] <wishie> nuxil: ended up going with.. http://pastebin.ca/1093066
[20:14] <wishie> nuxil: might not be the most elegant, but it works.
[20:14] <BraveSpear> wishie: any idea how to make Firefox the default web browser on the kde livecd? I have used the command: update-alternatives --config x-www-browser   and selected Firefox as the default, but whenever I click a link on a test KDE desktop I have it still opens the links in Konqueror.
[20:14] <wishie> BraveSpear: i think KDE has its own "default" browser setting
[20:14] <nuxil> :)
[20:15] <Nyad> Freddy2: why doesn't  $ at amarok 21:20 pm  work?
[20:15] <wishie> nuxil: looks good enough ?
[20:15] <nuxil> sure
[20:15] <dan_> hi all! i've just installed easycam2-qt and i would like to "see myself" in the web cam... Which application coud give me the pic (or how can i test the webcam) . Thanks in advance..
[20:16] <nuxil> thee is no right or wrong way.. only the working way
[20:16] <wishie> BraveSpear: kcontrol->KDE components->Default Applications->Web Browser
[20:17] <wishie> BraveSpear: not sure where kde stores that setting in a file though..
[20:17] <wishie> but once you find it, you can use /etc/skel/ to copy it over at boot time, aswell.
[20:21] <BraveSpear> wishie: thanks for you help again.. I'm sure I'll have more questions soon.
[20:22] <Nyad> why doesn't this work? http://nopaste.com/p/aPSqzIf8db
[20:27] <nuxil> Nyad, bc if you dont have ar.allow only superuser can execute commands
[20:27] <nuxil> Nyad, its explained in the manual
[20:29] <Nyad> oh. I read the manual but I didn't think about that. lol
[20:29] <nuxil> try make a at.allow file
[20:29] <Freddy2> Nyad: http://www.computerhope.com/unix/uat.htm
[20:29] <nuxil> and put your username in there
[20:29] <dan_> hi againg: give me please a name of an application, that cam test my webcam..
[20:30] <engineer> kopete
[20:31] <wishie> dan_: what type of webcam ? if its ovcvideo, you can use ovcview
[20:32] <Freddy2> Nyad: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-job-scheduling.html
[20:33] <Nyad> nuxil: I have an /etc/at.deny file but when I sudo cat /etc/at.deny it doesn't have any usernames in there, it has all sorts of other things, here's the output http://nopaste.com/p/aTrEWeUPm my username is jason
[20:36] <dan_> wishie: just a second... i have problems top detect the type. (which ovcview : None, synaptic has no ideea about this...) give me some more seconds to search for the cam name/type
[20:36] <_deb_> Hi all .
[20:37] <_deb_> I have a small problme with knetworkmanager
[20:38] <_deb_> I am not able to connect to a SSID with LEAP authentication using the manual configuration option in knetworkmanager.
[20:38] <_deb_> but if I use wpa_supplicant from command line with correct options, I can connect .
[20:43] <Nyad> I am being spammed by Pulsebombu and wikiliki, please kick them
[20:45] <The_ManU_212> is high hardware_recover_ecc in smart bad? it was once about 2 million then i changed ide cable and then it was down at 1000 (the raw value) no its again rising, smart says 100/100
[20:46] <Knopit> can update-rc.d be used to start applications at boot time?
[20:47] <iralex> Где я?
[20:48] <cedar> ktos pisze gwara??
[20:49] <nuxil> Nyad, what are you trying to do ?
[20:51] <wishie> dan_: and its 'uvcvideo' and the app 'luvcview'
[20:51] <wishie> dan_: but will only work if its a uvcvideo webcam, afaik
[20:52] <Nyad> nuxil: at 5am everyday I want amarok to open and play music
[20:52] <wishie> dan_: http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/
[20:53] <nuxil> Nyad, why dont you just use the simple interface kcron ?
[20:53] <nuxil> !kcron | Nyad
[20:54] <nuxil> !info kcron
[20:54] <smarty> Hey -- I'm trying to use a Character, but when I dont know how to type it... The command is : U+2720... how do I type the ' U ' ?
[20:54] <Nyad> nuxil: I know about kcron but I
[20:54] <Nyad> would rather use at since it will work on any linux system
[20:55] <nuxil> Nyad, are you telling me crond dont?
[20:55] <Nyad> ah cron, I'll use that then
[20:55] <Nyad> tnx
[20:55] <nuxil> np :)
[20:56] <smarty> anyone? what is the 'U' key?
[20:56] <nuxil> huu?
[20:57] <nuxil> smarty, its the key right from Y , left from I. top of J,K,L
[20:57] <nuxil> :p
[20:57] <smarty> lol, i know that :P
[20:57] <smarty> I'm trying to use a Character, but when I dont know how to type it... The command is : U+2720... how do I type the ' U ' ?
[20:59] <nuxil> sorry dont know what you mean
[20:59] <nuxil> ascii codes ?
[20:59] <sigma_za> how do i view people that are browsing my nfs shares? any gui?
[20:59] <smarty> I think that they are ascii codes... you know KCharSelect?
[20:59] <nuxil> sigma_za, maybe nfsstat
[21:00] <nuxil> nop sorry
[21:02] <wishie> ok, my mounting script now works, i think..heh
[21:02] <nuxil> nice :)
[21:02] <Nyad> smarty: I think you've gotta hold some button and then type that code value, it will then output the appropriate characer.
[21:03] <smarty> Nyad : any idea which key to hold? I've tried, Alt, CTRL, (Windows Key), Shift, Tab, etc.
[21:03] <wishie> nuxil: checks ESSID and Signal, and if both AP is correct, and Signal is > 40, it mounts (once only) and unmounts if either of the conditions change.
[21:03] <Nyad> I don't know, I want to though. coz I also need that :P
[21:03] <wishie> nuxil: thanks for the ideas.. i couldnt see the forrest for the trees
[21:04] <wishie> perhaps something could be added to knetworkmanager ? like "run script on network connect"
[21:08] <nuxil> wishie, np.. check dcop function for knetworkmanager
[21:10] <nuxil> wishie, dont know if its possible.. but  you can check it out.
[21:11] <wishie> nah, its not..just looked
[21:11] <wishie> might see if i can hack something in there tomorrow
[21:11] <wishie> its 6am here now
[21:11] <wishie> need some sleep
[21:11] <nuxil> l8r
[21:22] <BraveSpear> wishie: another question for you.. do you know where I can set the default home page for Firefox for my livecd?
[21:29] <Guest80054> how to enable restricted nvidia drivers on kubuntu 8.4 ? :-)
[21:29] <nuxil> !nvidia
[21:30] <tocki> thanks nuxil
[21:30] <nuxil> np
[21:31] <FallenHi1okiri> is there a way to get samba browsing working in kubuntu / kde4? i get "no connection to system for smb://smb-network/" do I have to install additional stuff like samba?
[21:50] <alessandro> ciao
[21:50] <paulanton> howdy y'all. I'm having a problem booting my ubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu computer into my favorite desktop: KDE. anyone have a clue why?
[21:51] <alessandro> hello
[21:51] <paulanton> alessandro: hello :-
[21:51] <nuxil> !kdm | paulanton
[21:51] <paulanton> ubottu: okay, though it might not be related to that
[22:06] <yereth> hi guys
[22:07] <yereth> any idea why alt-f2 is not giving me krunner on kde4?
[22:07] <nuxil> !kde4
[22:07] <yereth> ...
[22:08] <yereth> nuxil: ?
[22:08] <nuxil> Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:09] <yereth> ow.. alright
[22:11] <crayzi> whois deci
[22:15] <Dragonath> is there any way to rename the documents folder in my ~?
[22:20] <cdv> i have an issue when creating a new user group. when i e.g. write groupadd test i get the error: unable to lock group file
[22:21] <rickest> cdv: got root?
[22:22] <cdv> do i need to switch to root before i try to create the new group?
[22:27] <mike> !apt-fix
[22:31] <BIGLEGOWSKY> sera
[22:32] <BIGLEGOWSKY> ops sorry
[22:34] <kolo> buenas
[22:38] <mpsan> Does anyone know what happened to MC midnight commander? apt-get does not find it.
[22:56] <BraveSpear> cdv: sorry, just got back.. yes you need to either be root, or sudo
[23:19] <anom01y> anyone know a good app to recover a deleted folder on ext3 fs ?
[23:19] <anom01y> or files ?
[23:24] <Xcerca> is there a command that will tell me which partiions are (hd#,#) ?
[23:24] <nuxil> fdisk -l
[23:24] <Xcerca> thx
[23:24] <nuxil> np
[23:25] <Schorfi> or df -h
[23:29] <nuxil> ScottLij, that only shows mounted disk
[23:29] <nuxil> erm
[23:29] <nuxil> that was for Schorfi . but he left
[23:35] <gd515> hi
[23:41] <bdizzle> hello
[23:42] <BraveSpear> hi
[23:42] <bdizzle> this is going to be a first for me, but I need information on trying to get an HP C4380 Photosmart printer to work wirelessly with Linux
[23:43] <Ahmuck> hi.  there appears to be no more icon to change the video card and monitor ... how is that done now in hardy?
[23:52] <BraveSpear> Anyone want a challenge? How to create just a Desktop on a KDE livecd with icons on the desktop.  No KMenu, taskbar, system tray.. any ideas?
[23:53] <kaminix> Anyone know a good application for audio conversations which work on 64 bit?
[23:56] <hcooh> I use wengophone