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thinkmassiveI've been trying to register on the forums using the same name I use on here, and I finally realized that it's probably being disallowed because of a vulgarity filter... any idea who I can contact to manually create an account? :)00:22
thinkmassivewoohoo, finally got it fixed :)00:36
jokoonI have a powerpc laptop machine and when I play several movies, only 1 has sound played...01:13
amidanielHey everyone. I'm having some really weird issues with xubuntu .. this is a relatively clean Ubuntu hardy install that I recently installed xubuntu-desktop on. The first boot into an xfce desktop, it worked fine .. now suddenly all of my windows have no decoration (titlbar, etc.), cannot be moved, closed, etc. .. and open in the top left corner01:46
amidanielAny ideas what might be causing this? .. compiz is disabled01:46
LetsGo67Why is my recordMyDesktop video laggy? I have 3GB of RAM!02:18
Mannequindon't know what's going on: I just restarted and now i don't have any panel/desktop04:18
Mannequinbut because I left pidgin open on the last session, I was able to connect here, luckily04:18
Mannequinso, how could I restart all the XFCE thing from a console?04:19
Mannequin(will be back shortly)04:19
MannequinI've tried restarting X and choosing a Xfce session, but no luck04:21
Mannequinok, running xfce4-panel, panels are back04:22
Mannequinbut desktop is still missing04:22
Mannequinok, I've got my desktop too04:23
Mimohello06:00
MimoHEllo ?06:01
MimoHELlo ?06:01
Mimoany1 here ?06:03
Mimoany1 help ?06:04
Ahmuckwhere in xubuntu is the place to change the video driver and resoltuion?08:16
Ahmuckmonitor08:16
wolsxorg.conf08:39
Riottahello09:46
ari_stresshi all09:54
ari_stressif i want to install xubuntu desktop manager without other packages such as goffice, how can i do that? sudo apt-get install xubuntu-dekstop installs all09:54
TheSheepari_stress: install xfce410:13
dingdangdongi want to use "winkey" to toggle between keyboard layouts, then what should i put instead of shit_alt here ? --> setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle us,ir10:17
ari_stressTheSheep: thanks :)10:25
ari_stressi was almost fell asleep on my desk10:25
ari_stressmy boss goes out of office10:25
ari_stress:D10:25
TheSheepdingdangdong: I guess 'super_'10:28
dingdangdongjust "super_"?10:29
dingdangdongfine . . , thx :)10:29
TheSheepsuper_toggle10:36
TheSheepI mean10:36
dingdangdongTheSheep: uhhuh, thx :)10:36
TheSheepthe windows key is called super on linux :)10:36
dingdangdongparadoxically ;)10:36
FSX_Hey, can someone help with vnc?12:28
vinnlFSX_, depends on your problem ;-)12:28
FSX_Well, I'm trying to connect to xubuntu with my windows pc12:29
FSX_But realvnc says: The connection closed unexpectedly12:29
FSX_When I type 'xvnc4viewer localhost' on the xubuntu pc I get the same message.12:31
TheSheep!vnc12:36
ubottuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX12:36
FSX_Hmm k, I think I'll just use putty12:39
jest123hi, I am having some problems authenticating packages e.g. http://paste.ubuntu.com/34384/ any ideas?12:40
wolsjest123: install ubuntu-keyring12:51
jest123wols: thanks!12:51
jest123ok I reinstalled (it was there already) but persists! so... could it be the rep? ( http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/multiverse Packages)12:58
wolspossibly13:08
wolsubuntu should have working keyrings by default for all major repos13:08
jest123wols: ok thanks, I am also using the same distro to another pc which doesn't have any problems, I 'll try to compare them13:11
jest123wols: fixed by choosing a different uk rep (oxford's mirror) thanks!13:25
Kardosohi13:45
vinnlHey Kardoso13:45
KardosoHey Vinnl :)13:45
KardosoShould I install Xubuntu to my another computer: 1 GB RAM, 5 GB space, Intel Celeron 4,0 Ghz, slow videocard13:48
Kardoso?13:49
vinnlIf you'd like to ;-)13:49
Kardosothe harddisk is: Seagate 40 GB, but its five years old :S13:49
KardosoI want to install with wubi13:50
KardosoShould I do it?13:51
vinnlAgain, if you feel like it. I think it should be possible13:51
KardosoOk. thanks13:52
vinnlWith emphasis on *think* ;-)13:52
Kardoso:)13:52
KardosoDoes Xubuntu support all of theese: USB based hard disk (mobile HDD), pendrive, USB hub?13:55
vinnlThe last two definitely, I don't know what the first one is so I can't tell13:55
KardosoI have an old webcam, and the install CD is lost. Will Xubuntu support it? (its a Nortek webcam, three years old)13:56
KardosoThe mobile HDD rack is: SinanPower      The winchester inside it: Samsung 360 GB SATA13:56
vinnlYou never need a CD - Xubuntu ships its own drivers for a range of supported webcams13:57
vinnlSo if your webcam is in that range (if it's old: probably, I'd guess) then it will work13:57
Kardosovinnl: really?? it would be great. Windows Vista dont support this webcam :)13:58
vinnlNo guarantees ;-)13:58
vinnlKardoso, you could download a livecd and test it :)13:58
KardosoVinnl: ok :)13:58
KardosoOh hi Charlie-tca ;)13:58
charlie-tcaHi, Kardoso13:59
KardosoVinnl: Can you should me an MSN client that support videochat?13:59
vinnlHmm, tricky13:59
vinnlI believe aMSN supported it13:59
vinnl\0/13:59
KardosoCan I download it from Synaptics?14:00
vinnlIt does, but it's the only one that does AFAIK14:00
vinnlYep14:00
vinnlAnd if not, they have an Ubuntu installer at their website14:00
vinnlOh wait, they don't anymore :P14:00
KardosoWhat is 'AFAIK'?14:00
Kardosovinnl: why?14:00
Kardosothey are going back in the time? :)14:00
Kardosoor what14:01
vinnlAs far as I know14:01
vinnlUbuntu already has the latest version so there's no need to, I see ;-)14:01
vinnl(Building packages also needs manpower)14:01
KardosoBut I want install Xubuntu. Is same for Xubuntu too?14:01
vinnlYep14:02
vinnlYou can get all software that you can get in Ubuntu on Xubuntu too14:02
KardosoHow can I install a package if that not in Synaptics? ...14:02
vinnlIf you have a package you can just double-click it14:02
Kardoso... I have an Azureus 2.5 version, because I dont like the 3.0 version14:02
KardosoIts a tar.bz214:03
vinnlThen you'd need to compile from source which requires some skill, but apparently Ubuntu has 2.514:03
vinnl2.5.0.4 to be precise14:03
KardosoIf I click it the archive-manager open. (sorry if I was incorrect, it happened long time ago)14:03
vinnlYeah a tar.bz2 is like a .zip14:04
KardosoHow can I add it to Synaptics?14:04
vinnlIt already is in Synaptic14:04
KardosoReally? great14:04
Kardosothanks14:04
vinnlnp :)14:04
KardosoWhy is the "Search for updates" updates unavaible in Firefox? (sorry if I incorrect I have different lang of Firefox)14:05
vinnlBecause you automatically get your updates through Ubuntu's update service14:06
vinnl(If needed)14:06
KardosoOh! :) thx14:06
KardosoIs 1 GB RAM enough for Xubuntu?14:07
vinnlYeah, I'm running on 0.5 GB14:07
KardosoOk.14:08
KardosoIs Xubuntu "care" with the hard disk? Because XP and Vista has 'virtual memory' feature but it's not the best for a five years old hard disk..14:09
vinnlNo idea, I guess so :P14:10
Kardosook14:10
KardosoCan I access to NTFS partitions?14:10
vinnlYep, if you use the latest version14:11
vinnl(of Xubuntu)14:11
Kardosoplease wait I check now14:11
vinnlWhich version do you use?14:11
Kardosoi check now14:11
Kardoso(if I found my CD) :)14:12
vinnl:P14:12
Kardosogood. I found it :)   8.0414:14
vinnlOK, then you'll have no problems :)14:15
Kardosook :)14:15
Kardosoin write-able mode?14:15
vinnlYep14:15
KardosoGreat14:15
KardosoHave I install any softwares to do it?14:15
vinnlNope, you can do that by default14:16
KardosoGreat14:16
Kardosothank you14:16
vinnlNo problem :)14:16
KardosoActually there is an extra slow Windows XP with lot of trojans. Will Xubuntu be faster?14:17
vinnlIf there are lots of trojans probably yes :)14:18
KardosoYes. I'm not joke, there was 53 trojan. And I did not clean all...14:19
vinnl0.o14:19
Kardosovinnl: If I install an anti-virus in Xubuntu, can I clean the XP with it?14:19
vinnlKardoso, I believe you can, yes, Clam or something (haven't tried it myself)14:20
vinnlAnyway, I gotta go, my sister's pushing me14:20
vinnlGood luck :)14:20
KardosoThanks :)14:20
KardosoThen bye, have a nice day :)14:20
vinnlThanks, same to you :)14:21
Kardosocharlie-tca: hi. Has Xubuntu 'wubi'? (I want to install inside Windows for test)14:29
charlie-tcaI believe it does. take a look at http://xubuntu.org/ under get "Xubuntu"14:30
KardosoWhat details need I type in "wubi"? (sorry, I did not use wubi anytime, I only used the normal installation)14:31
charlie-tcaI don't know either. I never used it.14:32
Kardosook. sorry then14:32
charlie-tcaIt's okay. I'm just playing catch-up on things. I'm doing some remodelling for people and got behind.14:33
KardosoI go to try it now14:34
KardosoThank you for help14:34
charlie-tcaGood luck!14:35
KardosoThanks14:35
KardosoHave a nice day14:35
Kardosobye14:35
charlie-tcaThank you, you too14:35
charlie-tca:)14:35
Kardoso( i will come back later)14:35
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Agent_bobhello.   when i start xfce4-session  the xfce4-panel program runs then vanishes away    i'm not too familear with xfce    but i can manually restart xfce4-panel and it comes back and stays so what might be causing this ?14:50
Agent_bobalso doesn't seem to save changes14:55
Agent_bobhmmmm   dead channel14:58
Agent_bobhowto manually save changes?   maybe that would fix it?15:04
mthehmm15:07
mtheAgent_bob frankly i have no idea15:08
mthe ^ ^15:08
Agent_bobmthe well thank you for answering15:08
Agent_bobi was beginning to think my feet stank15:09
Agent_bobmthe does this look about normal for starting an xfce session  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=de58a564 ?15:10
Agent_bobor are there lots of thing that aren't running ?15:10
Agent_bobi can't understand it.   the panel comes up and stays about 3 to 5 seconds then it's just gone.   and right click does nothing until i alt+f2 > xfce4-panel     and then the panel is back and right click works15:15
donna10try to go out  and close computer completely ?15:15
donna10then open it again ?15:16
Agent_bobdonna10 ?    "reboot fixes everything" ???15:16
donna10i am beginner also  , but on mine it did15:17
donna10take good care to get out completely15:17
Agent_bobi'm not sure what you expect that to do,  i have been starting x then xfce4-session   i can't see how restarting the kernel will help.15:19
donna10sorry  , i only told you what happened to me15:20
Agent_bobdonna10 ok.  thanks.   and you are probably running hardy   which restarting x may indeed change things in hardy    it seems to be full of M$'ish things.15:21
donna10nope i am on 7.1015:21
Agent_bobhmm  odd that it would have an affect on fiesty15:22
Agent_bobwell at any rate,  just to rule out all anomilies,  i'll reboot to prove to my self that it changes nothing  :)))15:23
donna10try :)  who knows15:23
* Agent_bob thinks he knows....15:24
Agent_boband the servey says.  no dice.  exact same thing.15:28
donna10i am sorry agent15:29
Agent_bobno need to be.15:29
Agent_bobyou already admited newness15:29
donna10i am here to learn also15:30
Agent_bob:)15:31
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Agent_bobhehhe  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d25f00fe8   now you can be l33t15:45
Agent_bobslightly more useful   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d4f311b8215:48
JannoTTHow many estimated xubuntu users there are?16:03
Agent_bobcompaired to other *buntu not many16:06
Agent_bob  this might be handy sometime.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/pastebin.php?dl=mf4cae9916:07
Agent_bobhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d6d50d02b16:15
Agent_bobhehhe  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d1618230016:17
Agent_bobwell im tired of being bored.  going out to where real life is.16:18
JannoTTDamn real life robbing people16:20
JannoTTNice i have 13sec lag (Y)16:24
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spaceninjahow well does eeexubuntu work on a eee 900?17:29
JinKazamahi all :)17:31
decoy91hi17:33
decoy91XD17:33
forceshello17:33
decoy91:P17:34
jvin248spaceninja: I'd expect quite well.  I use Xubuntu 8.04 on P3-500Mhz/256MB/6GB HDD laptop ok (also 1Ghz desktop+2.4GHz desktop).  Might be some "driver" specifics in setup but running performance should be great.17:35
spaceninjaok17:37
decoy91Sysinfo for 'decoy': Linux 2.6.25-2-486 running KDE 3.5.9, CPU: AMDSempron3500+ at 2004 MHz (4012 bogomips), HD: 50/91GB, RAM: 874/885MB, 104 proc's, 2.33h up17:38
spaceninjawill running xubuntu give you a longer batterylife?17:38
forcesos[Linux 2.6.24-19-generic i686] distro[Debian lenny/sid] cpu[2 x Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2400  @ 1.83GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1000MHz] mem[Physical: 1001.6MB, 61.1% free] disk[Total: 109.4GB, 67.1% free] video[Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]17:38
forcesmy battery give me 1 hour 30 minuts17:39
JinKazamawho can I get the sys info form my PC ?17:40
decoy91:S17:41
forceshow?17:41
JinKazamahaw can I get the sys info form my PC ?17:41
JinKazamayes ...17:41
JinKazamaimsorry ... I have here some stupid word corrector ... :)17:42
forcesJinKazama, que programa ocupas?17:42
forcesxchat?17:42
spaceninja:)17:42
forcesor pidgin?17:42
forcesif you are using xchat17:42
JinKazamaPidgin17:42
forcessudo aptitude xchat xchat-xsys17:42
forcessudo aptitude install xchat xchat-xsys*17:43
forcespidgin have a plugins17:43
forcessearch a packeage in repo17:44
JinKazamayes :) OK ... I'll try to write proper :)17:48
JinKazamaso .. haw can I get the sys info form my PC ?17:48
meborcthere is a package called hardinfo17:49
meborcit is a great app for sys info...17:49
ricoi'm wondering if anyone can tell me why i can't get media to play on just installed wubi?  i installed flash 9-nonfree plugin, totem xine, and swfdec, but still no play... the machine was playing media fine on xp, so the hardware is all *good*17:56
jvin248rico: search around the ubuntu forums &/or wiki's... there are some good hints there - a full thread or two last time I needed it (about a month ago, but poor memory).18:00
ricojvin248: any suggestions for search words?18:01
jvin248rico: This thread looks like one to start with... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449  ; then look for topics here http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?s=a78ac3900646bd7a6a304be64de5d66f&f=33418:14
ricojvin248: thx, i go look18:16
ricojvin248: does this output tell you anything? http://paste.ubuntu.com/34483/18:23
JinKazamawow. I get the hardinfo. Its great. But I can run it only with command from Terminal. Is there some another shortcut ?18:28
whyking__hi18:46
whyking__how can I choose which source to use when autodetecting with HAL in pulseaudio?18:48
jvin248rico: You're getting beyond me with the list.  I did use some details on a generic google search "Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 no sound ubuntu" and then added "8.04" to a second search and more specifics were brought up (you may have a different build).18:51
Centaur5Is there not a GUI for changing the resolution in Xubuntu?  I tried adding a Mode line in xorg.conf but I still don't get the option for 1024x768.19:53
siggjenCentaur5: settings manager display give me that option19:55
Centaur5siggjen: Well the Display setting will give the resolutions available but if that resolution isn't in the list how can I get it in the list?19:56
TheSheepCentaur5: you can use a graphics card and monitor screen that support it19:56
TheSheepCentaur5: alternatively, if either of the two are badly detected, you can edito xorg.conf and specify the card driver and monitor's refresh rates19:57
Centaur5I put in a SubSection called Display underneath Screen and added Modes "1024x768" in that SubSection but it still doesn't appear as an option.20:01
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Centaur5I knew how to do this before xorg was dynamic but now it's different.20:01
wolsit's still the exact same way20:01
TheSheepthe syntax is identical20:02
wolsthe old xorg.conf also still works20:02
TheSheepbut the modes that are outside your monitor's refresh rates or card's memory are dropped20:02
TheSheepyou can look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see why the modes you specified were dropped20:02
Centaur5okay, thanks for that info20:03
Centaur5I'll check that out and see if I can get it to work.20:03
wolscheck Xorg.0.log too20:05
Mezcody-somerville, youre up in #ubuntu-meeting22:31
jsjonesIs it possible to request xubuntu cd's?22:38
zoredachejsjones: I don't believe so...22:39
vinnlNope22:40
jsjonesthe iso's that I have been downloading and burning do not work (both ubuntu and xubuntu). I have requested and received an ubuntu cd, but some of the computers I have do not have enough memory for ubuntu22:40
zoredacheI bet there are a couple places where you could buy them pretty cheap22:41
zoredachejsjones: http://shop.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart/0070011601.html $3.9922:42
vinnlWhat does "do not work" mean?22:42
zoredacheof course you could also try alternate methods like setting up booting from a usb memory stick if the bios supports it22:43
piju-hello guys22:47
vinnlHey piju-22:47
piju-cool22:47
piju-everybody is here22:47
vinnlWho's everybody?22:48
Mezregarding the FF vs Epiph thing - I find that a strange choice, as FF generally crashes on me more often than not on the eee22:48
vinnlMez, the "on me" part is essential :P22:49
* Myrtti huggles epiphany22:49
Mezvinnl, it crashes due to it eating up memory22:49
Mezepiphany (ty Myrtti) used in the same way works soo much better22:49
vinnlBtw, I suppose this is more appropriate for #xubuntu-devel :)22:50
Mezexcept I cant find how to set it as the default browser22:50
zoredachethe default where?22:50
* Myrtti tries to resist adding yet another channel to her irssi22:51
vinnlMez, if you're using Xubuntu I believe I know where to set that, let me look...22:51
Mezvinnl, eeexubutu22:52
zoredachevinnl: you are probably thinging of 'settings manager -> prefered applications'22:52
vinnlMez, open the settings manager and click "Preferred applications"22:52
vinnlzoredache, ^.^22:52
zoredachethe problem is, that only xfce applications seem to honor that setting22:53
Mezvinnl, ty, :D22:53
* Mez hugs vinnl 22:53
* vinnl chokes22:53
vinnlzoredache, really? That's odd...22:53
zoredacheFor example the update-manager always went to firefox... I submitted a bug, and it is supposedly fixed22:53
Myrttiyeah, I had that too22:53
zoredachethunderbird always seems to choose firefox, and I haven't found where to tweak that...22:54
Myrttioh, that's in about:config;22:58
Myrttithough I personally moved to clams-mail ♥22:59
Myrttier22:59
Myrtticlaws22:59
zoredacheI use webmail 90% of the time, and just use thunderbird for accessing my archive... so it doesn't really matter much...  Really I was giving examples of my point that there isn't really a consistent methods that applications uses to determine the correct browser to launch23:00
Myrttiyeah23:00
Myrttispeaking of real issues23:03
MyrttiI've been unable to get skype working on my xubuntu23:03
TheSheepMyrtti: any particular error?23:03
MyrttiI've tried almost any trick found in google but microphone is still mute23:04
Myrttiskype-static-oss - no luck, pulseaudio - no luck, fooling around with alsamixer ad nauseam - no luck23:05
TheSheepMyrtti: does it work with other apps?23:05
Myrttiexcellent question :-P23:06
TheSheepthanks, I'm trying my best :P23:07
* Myrtti huggles TheSheep 23:07
* TheSheep dodges23:08
MyrttiMEH.23:09
TheSheepMyrtti: no luck?23:10
MyrttiI think sound-recorder just crashed on me23:10
TheSheepfun23:10

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