[00:22] <thinkmassive> I've been trying to register on the forums using the same name I use on here, and I finally realized that it's probably being disallowed because of a vulgarity filter... any idea who I can contact to manually create an account? :)
[00:36] <thinkmassive> woohoo, finally got it fixed :)
[01:13] <jokoon> I have a powerpc laptop machine and when I play several movies, only 1 has sound played...
[01:46] <amidaniel> Hey everyone. I'm having some really weird issues with xubuntu .. this is a relatively clean Ubuntu hardy install that I recently installed xubuntu-desktop on. The first boot into an xfce desktop, it worked fine .. now suddenly all of my windows have no decoration (titlbar, etc.), cannot be moved, closed, etc. .. and open in the top left corner
[01:46] <amidaniel> Any ideas what might be causing this? .. compiz is disabled
[02:18] <LetsGo67> Why is my recordMyDesktop video laggy? I have 3GB of RAM!
[04:18] <Mannequin> don't know what's going on: I just restarted and now i don't have any panel/desktop
[04:18] <Mannequin> but because I left pidgin open on the last session, I was able to connect here, luckily
[04:19] <Mannequin> so, how could I restart all the XFCE thing from a console?
[04:19] <Mannequin> (will be back shortly)
[04:21] <Mannequin> I've tried restarting X and choosing a Xfce session, but no luck
[04:22] <Mannequin> ok, running xfce4-panel, panels are back
[04:22] <Mannequin> but desktop is still missing
[04:23] <Mannequin> ok, I've got my desktop too
[06:00] <Mimo> hello
[06:01] <Mimo> HEllo ?
[06:01] <Mimo> HELlo ?
[06:03] <Mimo> any1 here ?
[06:04] <Mimo> any1 help ?
[08:16] <Ahmuck> where in xubuntu is the place to change the video driver and resoltuion?
[08:16] <Ahmuck> monitor
[08:39] <wols> xorg.conf
[09:46] <Riotta> hello
[09:54] <ari_stress> hi all
[09:54] <ari_stress> if i want to install xubuntu desktop manager without other packages such as goffice, how can i do that? sudo apt-get install xubuntu-dekstop installs all
[10:13] <TheSheep> ari_stress: install xfce4
[10:17] <dingdangdong> i want to use "winkey" to toggle between keyboard layouts, then what should i put instead of shit_alt here ? --> setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle us,ir
[10:25] <ari_stress> TheSheep: thanks :)
[10:25] <ari_stress> i was almost fell asleep on my desk
[10:25] <ari_stress> my boss goes out of office
[10:25] <ari_stress> :D
[10:28] <TheSheep> dingdangdong: I guess 'super_'
[10:29] <dingdangdong> just "super_"?
[10:29] <dingdangdong> fine . . , thx :)
[10:36] <TheSheep> super_toggle
[10:36] <TheSheep> I mean
[10:36] <dingdangdong> TheSheep: uhhuh, thx :)
[10:36] <TheSheep> the windows key is called super on linux :)
[10:36] <dingdangdong> paradoxically ;)
[12:28] <FSX_> Hey, can someone help with vnc?
[12:28] <vinnl> FSX_, depends on your problem ;-)
[12:29] <FSX_> Well, I'm trying to connect to xubuntu with my windows pc
[12:29] <FSX_> But realvnc says: The connection closed unexpectedly
[12:31] <FSX_> When I type 'xvnc4viewer localhost' on the xubuntu pc I get the same message.
[12:36] <TheSheep> !vnc
[12:39] <FSX_> Hmm k, I think I'll just use putty
[12:40] <jest123> hi, I am having some problems authenticating packages e.g. http://paste.ubuntu.com/34384/ any ideas?
[12:51] <wols> jest123: install ubuntu-keyring
[12:51] <jest123> wols: thanks!
[12:58] <jest123> ok I reinstalled (it was there already) but persists! so... could it be the rep? ( http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/multiverse Packages)
[13:08] <wols> possibly
[13:08] <wols> ubuntu should have working keyrings by default for all major repos
[13:11] <jest123> wols: ok thanks, I am also using the same distro to another pc which doesn't have any problems, I 'll try to compare them
[13:25] <jest123> wols: fixed by choosing a different uk rep (oxford's mirror) thanks!
[13:45] <Kardoso> hi
[13:45] <vinnl> Hey Kardoso
[13:45] <Kardoso> Hey Vinnl :)
[13:48] <Kardoso> Should I install Xubuntu to my another computer: 1 GB RAM, 5 GB space, Intel Celeron 4,0 Ghz, slow videocard
[13:49] <Kardoso> ?
[13:49] <vinnl> If you'd like to ;-)
[13:49] <Kardoso> the harddisk is: Seagate 40 GB, but its five years old :S
[13:50] <Kardoso> I want to install with wubi
[13:51] <Kardoso> Should I do it?
[13:51] <vinnl> Again, if you feel like it. I think it should be possible
[13:52] <Kardoso> Ok. thanks
[13:52] <vinnl> With emphasis on *think* ;-)
[13:52] <Kardoso> :)
[13:55] <Kardoso> Does Xubuntu support all of theese: USB based hard disk (mobile HDD), pendrive, USB hub?
[13:55] <vinnl> The last two definitely, I don't know what the first one is so I can't tell
[13:56] <Kardoso> I have an old webcam, and the install CD is lost. Will Xubuntu support it? (its a Nortek webcam, three years old)
[13:56] <Kardoso> The mobile HDD rack is: SinanPower      The winchester inside it: Samsung 360 GB SATA
[13:57] <vinnl> You never need a CD - Xubuntu ships its own drivers for a range of supported webcams
[13:57] <vinnl> So if your webcam is in that range (if it's old: probably, I'd guess) then it will work
[13:58] <Kardoso> vinnl: really?? it would be great. Windows Vista dont support this webcam :)
[13:58] <vinnl> No guarantees ;-)
[13:58] <vinnl> Kardoso, you could download a livecd and test it :)
[13:58] <Kardoso> Vinnl: ok :)
[13:58] <Kardoso> Oh hi Charlie-tca ;)
[13:59] <charlie-tca> Hi, Kardoso
[13:59] <Kardoso> Vinnl: Can you should me an MSN client that support videochat?
[13:59] <vinnl> Hmm, tricky
[13:59] <vinnl> I believe aMSN supported it
[13:59] <vinnl> \0/
[14:00] <Kardoso> Can I download it from Synaptics?
[14:00] <vinnl> It does, but it's the only one that does AFAIK
[14:00] <vinnl> Yep
[14:00] <vinnl> And if not, they have an Ubuntu installer at their website
[14:00] <vinnl> Oh wait, they don't anymore :P
[14:00] <Kardoso> What is 'AFAIK'?
[14:00] <Kardoso> vinnl: why?
[14:00] <Kardoso> they are going back in the time? :)
[14:01] <Kardoso> or what
[14:01] <vinnl> As far as I know
[14:01] <vinnl> Ubuntu already has the latest version so there's no need to, I see ;-)
[14:01] <vinnl> (Building packages also needs manpower)
[14:01] <Kardoso> But I want install Xubuntu. Is same for Xubuntu too?
[14:02] <vinnl> Yep
[14:02] <vinnl> You can get all software that you can get in Ubuntu on Xubuntu too
[14:02] <Kardoso> How can I install a package if that not in Synaptics? ...
[14:02] <vinnl> If you have a package you can just double-click it
[14:02] <Kardoso> ... I have an Azureus 2.5 version, because I dont like the 3.0 version
[14:03] <Kardoso> Its a tar.bz2
[14:03] <vinnl> Then you'd need to compile from source which requires some skill, but apparently Ubuntu has 2.5
[14:03] <vinnl> 2.5.0.4 to be precise
[14:03] <Kardoso> If I click it the archive-manager open. (sorry if I was incorrect, it happened long time ago)
[14:04] <vinnl> Yeah a tar.bz2 is like a .zip
[14:04] <Kardoso> How can I add it to Synaptics?
[14:04] <vinnl> It already is in Synaptic
[14:04] <Kardoso> Really? great
[14:04] <Kardoso> thanks
[14:04] <vinnl> np :)
[14:05] <Kardoso> Why is the "Search for updates" updates unavaible in Firefox? (sorry if I incorrect I have different lang of Firefox)
[14:06] <vinnl> Because you automatically get your updates through Ubuntu's update service
[14:06] <vinnl> (If needed)
[14:06] <Kardoso> Oh! :) thx
[14:07] <Kardoso> Is 1 GB RAM enough for Xubuntu?
[14:07] <vinnl> Yeah, I'm running on 0.5 GB
[14:08] <Kardoso> Ok.
[14:09] <Kardoso> Is Xubuntu "care" with the hard disk? Because XP and Vista has 'virtual memory' feature but it's not the best for a five years old hard disk..
[14:10] <vinnl> No idea, I guess so :P
[14:10] <Kardoso> ok
[14:10] <Kardoso> Can I access to NTFS partitions?
[14:11] <vinnl> Yep, if you use the latest version
[14:11] <vinnl> (of Xubuntu)
[14:11] <Kardoso> please wait I check now
[14:11] <vinnl> Which version do you use?
[14:11] <Kardoso> i check now
[14:12] <Kardoso> (if I found my CD) :)
[14:12] <vinnl> :P
[14:14] <Kardoso> good. I found it :)   8.04
[14:15] <vinnl> OK, then you'll have no problems :)
[14:15] <Kardoso> ok :)
[14:15] <Kardoso> in write-able mode?
[14:15] <vinnl> Yep
[14:15] <Kardoso> Great
[14:15] <Kardoso> Have I install any softwares to do it?
[14:16] <vinnl> Nope, you can do that by default
[14:16] <Kardoso> Great
[14:16] <Kardoso> thank you
[14:16] <vinnl> No problem :)
[14:17] <Kardoso> Actually there is an extra slow Windows XP with lot of trojans. Will Xubuntu be faster?
[14:18] <vinnl> If there are lots of trojans probably yes :)
[14:19] <Kardoso> Yes. I'm not joke, there was 53 trojan. And I did not clean all...
[14:19] <vinnl> 0.o
[14:19] <Kardoso> vinnl: If I install an anti-virus in Xubuntu, can I clean the XP with it?
[14:20] <vinnl> Kardoso, I believe you can, yes, Clam or something (haven't tried it myself)
[14:20] <vinnl> Anyway, I gotta go, my sister's pushing me
[14:20] <vinnl> Good luck :)
[14:20] <Kardoso> Thanks :)
[14:20] <Kardoso> Then bye, have a nice day :)
[14:21] <vinnl> Thanks, same to you :)
[14:29] <Kardoso> charlie-tca: hi. Has Xubuntu 'wubi'? (I want to install inside Windows for test)
[14:30] <charlie-tca> I believe it does. take a look at http://xubuntu.org/ under get "Xubuntu"
[14:31] <Kardoso> What details need I type in "wubi"? (sorry, I did not use wubi anytime, I only used the normal installation)
[14:32] <charlie-tca> I don't know either. I never used it.
[14:32] <Kardoso> ok. sorry then
[14:33] <charlie-tca> It's okay. I'm just playing catch-up on things. I'm doing some remodelling for people and got behind.
[14:34] <Kardoso> I go to try it now
[14:34] <Kardoso> Thank you for help
[14:35] <charlie-tca> Good luck!
[14:35] <Kardoso> Thanks
[14:35] <Kardoso> Have a nice day
[14:35] <Kardoso> bye
[14:35] <charlie-tca> Thank you, you too
[14:35] <charlie-tca> :)
[14:35] <Kardoso> ( i will come back later)
[14:50] <Agent_bob> hello.   when i start xfce4-session  the xfce4-panel program runs then vanishes away    i'm not too familear with xfce    but i can manually restart xfce4-panel and it comes back and stays so what might be causing this ?
[14:55] <Agent_bob> also doesn't seem to save changes
[14:58] <Agent_bob> hmmmm   dead channel
[15:04] <Agent_bob> howto manually save changes?   maybe that would fix it?
[15:07] <mthe> hmm
[15:08] <mthe> Agent_bob frankly i have no idea
[15:08] <mthe>  ^ ^
[15:08] <Agent_bob> mthe well thank you for answering
[15:09] <Agent_bob> i was beginning to think my feet stank
[15:10] <Agent_bob> mthe does this look about normal for starting an xfce session  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=de58a564 ?
[15:10] <Agent_bob> or are there lots of thing that aren't running ?
[15:15] <Agent_bob> i can't understand it.   the panel comes up and stays about 3 to 5 seconds then it's just gone.   and right click does nothing until i alt+f2 > xfce4-panel     and then the panel is back and right click works
[15:15] <donna10> try to go out  and close computer completely ?
[15:16] <donna10> then open it again ?
[15:16] <Agent_bob> donna10 ?    "reboot fixes everything" ???
[15:17] <donna10> i am beginner also  , but on mine it did
[15:17] <donna10> take good care to get out completely
[15:19] <Agent_bob> i'm not sure what you expect that to do,  i have been starting x then xfce4-session   i can't see how restarting the kernel will help.
[15:20] <donna10> sorry  , i only told you what happened to me
[15:21] <Agent_bob> donna10 ok.  thanks.   and you are probably running hardy   which restarting x may indeed change things in hardy    it seems to be full of M$'ish things.
[15:21] <donna10> nope i am on 7.10
[15:22] <Agent_bob> hmm  odd that it would have an affect on fiesty
[15:23] <Agent_bob> well at any rate,  just to rule out all anomilies,  i'll reboot to prove to my self that it changes nothing  :)))
[15:23] <donna10> try :)  who knows
[15:24]  * Agent_bob thinks he knows....
[15:28] <Agent_bob> and the servey says.  no dice.  exact same thing.
[15:29] <donna10> i am sorry agent
[15:29] <Agent_bob> no need to be.
[15:29] <Agent_bob> you already admited newness
[15:30] <donna10> i am here to learn also
[15:31] <Agent_bob> :)
[15:45] <Agent_bob> hehhe  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d25f00fe8   now you can be l33t
[15:48] <Agent_bob> slightly more useful   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d4f311b82
[16:03] <JannoTT> How many estimated xubuntu users there are?
[16:06] <Agent_bob> compaired to other *buntu not many
[16:07] <Agent_bob>   this might be handy sometime.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/pastebin.php?dl=mf4cae99
[16:15] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d6d50d02b
[16:17] <Agent_bob> hehhe  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d16182300
[16:18] <Agent_bob> well im tired of being bored.  going out to where real life is.
[16:20] <JannoTT> Damn real life robbing people
[16:24] <JannoTT> Nice i have 13sec lag (Y)
[17:29] <spaceninja> how well does eeexubuntu work on a eee 900?
[17:31] <JinKazama> hi all :)
[17:33] <decoy91> hi
[17:33] <decoy91> XD
[17:33] <forces> hello
[17:34] <decoy91> :P
[17:35] <jvin248> spaceninja: I'd expect quite well.  I use Xubuntu 8.04 on P3-500Mhz/256MB/6GB HDD laptop ok (also 1Ghz desktop+2.4GHz desktop).  Might be some "driver" specifics in setup but running performance should be great.
[17:37] <spaceninja> ok
[17:38] <decoy91> Sysinfo for 'decoy': Linux 2.6.25-2-486 running KDE 3.5.9, CPU: AMDSempron3500+ at 2004 MHz (4012 bogomips), HD: 50/91GB, RAM: 874/885MB, 104 proc's, 2.33h up
[17:38] <spaceninja> will running xubuntu give you a longer batterylife?
[17:38] <forces> os[Linux 2.6.24-19-generic i686] distro[Debian lenny/sid] cpu[2 x Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2400  @ 1.83GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1000MHz] mem[Physical: 1001.6MB, 61.1% free] disk[Total: 109.4GB, 67.1% free] video[Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[17:39] <forces> my battery give me 1 hour 30 minuts
[17:40] <JinKazama> who can I get the sys info form my PC ?
[17:41] <decoy91> :S
[17:41] <forces> how?
[17:41] <JinKazama> haw can I get the sys info form my PC ?
[17:41] <JinKazama> yes ...
[17:42] <JinKazama> imsorry ... I have here some stupid word corrector ... :)
[17:42] <forces> JinKazama, que programa ocupas?
[17:42] <forces> xchat?
[17:42] <spaceninja> :)
[17:42] <forces> or pidgin?
[17:42] <forces> if you are using xchat
[17:42] <JinKazama> Pidgin
[17:42] <forces> sudo aptitude xchat xchat-xsys
[17:43] <forces> sudo aptitude install xchat xchat-xsys*
[17:43] <forces> pidgin have a plugins
[17:44] <forces> search a packeage in repo
[17:48] <JinKazama> yes :) OK ... I'll try to write proper :)
[17:48] <JinKazama> so .. ﻿haw can I get the sys info form my PC ?
[17:49] <meborc> there is a package called hardinfo
[17:49] <meborc> it is a great app for sys info...
[17:56] <rico> i'm wondering if anyone can tell me why i can't get media to play on just installed wubi?  i installed flash 9-nonfree plugin, totem xine, and swfdec, but still no play... the machine was playing media fine on xp, so the hardware is all *good*
[18:00] <jvin248> rico: search around the ubuntu forums &/or wiki's... there are some good hints there - a full thread or two last time I needed it (about a month ago, but poor memory).
[18:01] <rico> jvin248: any suggestions for search words?
[18:14] <jvin248> rico: This thread looks like one to start with... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449  ; then look for topics here http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?s=a78ac3900646bd7a6a304be64de5d66f&f=334
[18:16] <rico> jvin248: thx, i go look
[18:23] <rico> jvin248: does this output tell you anything? http://paste.ubuntu.com/34483/
[18:28] <JinKazama> wow. I get the hardinfo. Its great. But I can run it only with command from Terminal. Is there some another shortcut ?
[18:46] <whyking__> hi
[18:48] <whyking__> how can I choose which source to use when autodetecting with HAL in pulseaudio?
[18:51] <jvin248> rico: You're getting beyond me with the list.  I did use some details on a generic google search "Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 no sound ubuntu" and then added "8.04" to a second search and more specifics were brought up (you may have a different build).
[19:53] <Centaur5> Is there not a GUI for changing the resolution in Xubuntu?  I tried adding a Mode line in xorg.conf but I still don't get the option for 1024x768.
[19:55] <siggjen> Centaur5: settings manager display give me that option
[19:56] <Centaur5> siggjen: Well the Display setting will give the resolutions available but if that resolution isn't in the list how can I get it in the list?
[19:56] <TheSheep> Centaur5: you can use a graphics card and monitor screen that support it
[19:57] <TheSheep> Centaur5: alternatively, if either of the two are badly detected, you can edito xorg.conf and specify the card driver and monitor's refresh rates
[20:01] <Centaur5> I put in a SubSection called Display underneath Screen and added Modes "1024x768" in that SubSection but it still doesn't appear as an option.
[20:01] <Centaur5> I knew how to do this before xorg was dynamic but now it's different.
[20:01] <wols> it's still the exact same way
[20:02] <TheSheep> the syntax is identical
[20:02] <wols> the old xorg.conf also still works
[20:02] <TheSheep> but the modes that are outside your monitor's refresh rates or card's memory are dropped
[20:02] <TheSheep> you can look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see why the modes you specified were dropped
[20:03] <Centaur5> okay, thanks for that info
[20:03] <Centaur5> I'll check that out and see if I can get it to work.
[20:05] <wols> check Xorg.0.log too
[22:31] <Mez> cody-somerville, youre up in #ubuntu-meeting
[22:38] <jsjones> Is it possible to request xubuntu cd's?
[22:39] <zoredache> jsjones: I don't believe so...
[22:40] <vinnl> Nope
[22:40] <jsjones> the iso's that I have been downloading and burning do not work (both ubuntu and xubuntu). I have requested and received an ubuntu cd, but some of the computers I have do not have enough memory for ubuntu
[22:41] <zoredache> I bet there are a couple places where you could buy them pretty cheap
[22:42] <zoredache> jsjones: http://shop.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart/0070011601.html $3.99
[22:42] <vinnl> What does "do not work" mean?
[22:43] <zoredache> of course you could also try alternate methods like setting up booting from a usb memory stick if the bios supports it
[22:47] <piju-> hello guys
[22:47] <vinnl> Hey piju-
[22:47] <piju-> cool
[22:47] <piju-> everybody is here
[22:48] <vinnl> Who's everybody?
[22:48] <Mez> regarding the FF vs Epiph thing - I find that a strange choice, as FF generally crashes on me more often than not on the eee
[22:49] <vinnl> Mez, the "on me" part is essential :P
[22:49]  * Myrtti huggles epiphany
[22:49] <Mez> vinnl, it crashes due to it eating up memory
[22:49] <Mez> epiphany (ty Myrtti) used in the same way works soo much better
[22:50] <vinnl> Btw, I suppose this is more appropriate for #xubuntu-devel :)
[22:50] <Mez> except I cant find how to set it as the default browser
[22:50] <zoredache> the default where?
[22:51]  * Myrtti tries to resist adding yet another channel to her irssi
[22:51] <vinnl> Mez, if you're using Xubuntu I believe I know where to set that, let me look...
[22:52] <Mez> vinnl, eeexubutu
[22:52] <zoredache> vinnl: you are probably thinging of 'settings manager -> prefered applications'
[22:52] <vinnl> Mez, open the settings manager and click "Preferred applications"
[22:52] <vinnl> zoredache, ^.^
[22:53] <zoredache> the problem is, that only xfce applications seem to honor that setting
[22:53] <Mez> vinnl, ty, :D
[22:53]  * Mez hugs vinnl 
[22:53]  * vinnl chokes
[22:53] <vinnl> zoredache, really? That's odd...
[22:53] <zoredache> For example the update-manager always went to firefox... I submitted a bug, and it is supposedly fixed
[22:53] <Myrtti> yeah, I had that too
[22:54] <zoredache> thunderbird always seems to choose firefox, and I haven't found where to tweak that...
[22:58] <Myrtti> oh, that's in about:config;
[22:59] <Myrtti> though I personally moved to clams-mail ♥
[22:59] <Myrtti> er
[22:59] <Myrtti> claws
[23:00] <zoredache> I use webmail 90% of the time, and just use thunderbird for accessing my archive... so it doesn't really matter much...  Really I was giving examples of my point that there isn't really a consistent methods that applications uses to determine the correct browser to launch
[23:00] <Myrtti> yeah
[23:03] <Myrtti> speaking of real issues
[23:03] <Myrtti> I've been unable to get skype working on my xubuntu
[23:03] <TheSheep> Myrtti: any particular error?
[23:04] <Myrtti> I've tried almost any trick found in google but microphone is still mute
[23:05] <Myrtti> skype-static-oss - no luck, pulseaudio - no luck, fooling around with alsamixer ad nauseam - no luck
[23:05] <TheSheep> Myrtti: does it work with other apps?
[23:06] <Myrtti> excellent question :-P
[23:07] <TheSheep> thanks, I'm trying my best :P
[23:07]  * Myrtti huggles TheSheep 
[23:08]  * TheSheep dodges
[23:09] <Myrtti> MEH.
[23:10] <TheSheep> Myrtti: no luck?
[23:10] <Myrtti> I think sound-recorder just crashed on me
[23:10] <TheSheep> fun