[00:02] * apachelogger is still wondering why xbmc needs svn builds back to feisty [00:12] apachelogger: kde4libs uploaded thanks [00:15] Riddell: Do you have an idea if things break very horribly when people install intrepid's apt on hardy? (I had it rebuilt for hardy in my PPA...). [00:19] mornfall: I wouldn't know, but I'd hope not [00:20] I'll put a fat warning on the announcement. [00:21] hm [00:21] why would the qt4 package in the kde4 ppa not have dh_strip executed with --dbg-package [00:24] Nightrose: updated kdelibs should be available quite soonish [00:24] please take it for a testdrive [00:25] apachelogger: will do - what does it fix? [00:25] my favourite bug? :P [00:25] how should I know? :P [00:26] apachelogger: anyway - not sure i have the energy to do it tonight [00:26] but will definitely tomorrow morning [00:26] by then someone well have eaten my shorts :P [00:26] * Riddell snoozes [00:26] nini Riddell [00:27] apachelogger: you wear shorts? ;-) [00:27] mornfall: adept doesn't start if I run it by kdesudo: http://pastebin.com/d450887c0 [00:27] nini Riddell [00:27] Nightrose: I certainly do [00:28] cool [00:28] JontheEchidna: Oh. Interesting. [00:28] JontheEchidna: Is it maybe trying to use the .desktop file? [00:28] Which might be borked, actually. [00:29] I could try giving it the executable path [00:30] same resutls [00:30] *results [00:30] with kdesudo /usr/bin/adept [00:32] Dunno. [00:32] I don't know much about kdesudo... [00:32] You could try poking Tonio when he appears... [00:36] Anyone with a hardy box around? [00:36] |gunni|: (Already asleep?) [00:39] * mornfall bites the bullet and debootstraps hardy... [00:57] vorian: about the quotes around interesting in the package [00:57] the images in question may or may not be interesting [00:57] but they will be tagged as interesting by flickr [00:58] JontheEchidna: ok then [00:59] maybe I should say tagged as "intersting" to clarify [01:00] you can reword the description how ever you like [01:00] well if you were confused others might be [01:01] it makes it sound "suspicious" [01:02] like "neked" foto's [01:02] :P [01:02] :P [01:02] OH NOES! [01:02] http://pastebin.com/d61286449 [01:02] here comes GLOBAL WARMIN!!! [01:02] run [01:02] heh [01:03] JontheEchidna: why not use dput? [01:03] maybe I need my lp name as the login [01:03] vorian: that is dput [01:03] weird [01:03] JontheEchidna: merge your account? [01:04] huh? [01:04] I remade my etc/dput.cf file when I reinstaled [01:04] nono [01:04] on revu, there is an option to merge accounts [01:04] sign in with your open id [01:05] oh, that must be new [01:05] "Logged in as vorian. Merge REVU Accounts Your packages Logout." [01:05] hrm, now what was that revu password... [01:06] JontheEchidna: use your openid from lp [01:06] JontheEchidna: do you like me hilighting your name every 5 seconds? :P [01:06] not really :P [01:09] * Hobbsee waves [01:09] * Hobbsee highlights vorian repeatedly. [01:10] hi Hobbsee :) [01:10] heya! [01:11] still failing after account merge :( [01:11] it's a bad habit [01:11] JontheEchidna: did you try that gpg < bah! [01:11] sorry [01:11] I got my old password and stuff [01:11] and merged properly [01:11] NCommander! [01:12] not here i see [01:15] Normally if someone puts bugs in LP about PPA stuff, I just mark them invalid and laugh. [01:15] For the Hardy KDE4 stuff is there an established plan for PPA bugs? [01:16] they should be filed as kubuntu-members-kde4 bugs [01:16] Is there a bug tracker in there? [01:17] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members-kde4 [01:17] small, but yes [01:17] hmm [01:17] Those are subscriptions, not a different place for bugs. [01:18] For example, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-qt4/+bug/255045 is still an Ubuntu bug, but it shouldn't be because it's against the PPA package. [01:18] Launchpad bug 255045 in python-qt4 "python-qt4 from kubuntu-members-kde4 breaks python-qwt5-qt4" [Undecided,New] [01:18] hmm [01:20] My suggestion (generally) is to get Riddell to shove these over in hardy-backports (it has a separate bug tracker). They'd be signed then too and I'd feel WAY better about that from a security perspective. [01:21] sounds like a good idea [01:24] Oh yeah. What I wouldn't do... [02:41] Riddell: bug 255183 [02:41] Launchpad bug 255183 in plasmoid-quickaccess "Include plasmoid-quickaccess in main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/255183 [02:43] JontheEchidna: Did you search the different security databases they list in the template? [02:45] ScottK: Yeah, I couldn't find anything relating to the package [02:45] JontheEchidna: Dunno if it's actually required, but when I've done MIR in the past (I've done more than a dozen) I list them with the exact search I used and say none. [03:50] Hmm, there seems to be a lot of low-hanging fruit for kubuntu default settings. Maybe I should get off my ass one of these days and make some improvements... [03:51] but for now, bed. ;-) [04:58] hi there, will there be a Disk & Filesystems module in System Tools for KDE 4.1? [05:01] digistyl3: someone needs to port it [05:02] yuriy: so currently noone is on it? [05:10] digistyl3: no === supert0nes1 is now known as supert0nes [05:54] does anyone else's folderview get scroll bars that don't line up with the plasmoid window? [05:54] shoot wrong channel, although ahh nevermind i'll ask in kubuntu-kde4 === kemark is now known as krawek [07:56] lo all [08:59] <_StefanS_> morning [09:01] <_StefanS_> Jucato: you therE? [09:02] <_StefanS_> anyone know what to do if kde4 fails to start after kdm login ? - I'm just trying out intrepid and did a dist-upgrade from hardy [09:03] <_StefanS_> all I have is the background wallpaper from kdm, and nothing else happens. I do remember that it was an easy fix last time, just cant remember what it was :D [09:05] Riddell: you know the issue yesterday with X? Well when I tested an alt cd latter on I found out that there were missing kernel modules would that affect X? [09:09] <_StefanS_> well it turns out the session that kdm had as default didn't work... selecting "KDE" in the Menu in kdm solved it === supert0nes is now known as supert0nes[A] [10:21] mornfall: adept alpha 6 working super [10:22] mornfall: still a crash on exit though http://paste.ubuntu.com/34665/ [10:23] seems to do some clever finding similar packages when I search [10:23] how does it decide which tags to offer? [10:38] Riddell: It uses xapian suggestions for extending the query, basically. [10:38] Morning, too. [10:38] Riddell: The crash on exit, yes, for some reason it doesn't happen on a source build with enabled debug. :| [10:43] it also didn't start with kdesudo the first time I tried it, but has now. a problem for Tonio I think [10:45] I'd be tempted to have the Apply Changes button available on all pages [10:49] Riddell: Yeah, me too, and I guess people will complain about it... [10:49] Riddell: But they usually complain more if it *is* everywhere. It seems. [11:04] mornfall: doing an upgrade it seems to have got stuck on Hal [11:05] Riddell: Do you have terminal output around? [11:05] http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/adept-stuck.png [11:05] Uhm. [11:06] Can you strace -p `pgrep dpkg` maybe? [11:06] It doesn't seem to be doing anything, hm, dangerous. [11:06] hang on, something has happened [11:07] http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/adept-stuck2.png [11:07] Riddell: Can you resize the window to make the error fit in? [11:08] (I am adding a scrollbar to todo, it seems... :) [11:08] http://paste.ubuntu.com/34676/ [11:08] Riddell: Nono, in the adept window... [11:09] Below "the error was:" it's too long to fit. [11:09] http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/adept-stuck3.png [11:09] Interesting. [11:09] dpkg just died... [11:09] Well, hit OK. This is something I can't do much about I guess... [11:10] I mean, the hal post-install script died with an error. Nothing I can fix. Maybe make the error more malleable. :) [11:14] crash.. [11:15] http://paste.ubuntu.com/34682/ [11:16] with this on command line http://paste.ubuntu.com/34683/ [11:16] running dpkg --configure -a manually and hal restarts fine [11:21] Oh, hmm, seems I don't really handle exceptions from recovery. [11:22] Do you think it's related to Adept that invoke-rc.d fails to start hal? [11:22] I have no idea how that could happen. [11:23] Ah, yes, indeed, the recovery code needs some fixing. [11:23] But it doesn't explain the mysterious "hal failed to start" problem. [11:24] if I downgrade hal then do a dist-upgrade again from the command line it all works fine [11:25] And when you try from adept? [11:25] it works fine [11:25] ... [11:26] so, hmm, shrug, who knows [11:26] What would you suggest? : - ) [11:26] I've TODO-ed the recovery crash, it's easy-fix. [11:26] ignore it until anyone else reports the same issue I'd suggest :) [11:27] Riddell: Well, if the recovery doesn't crash, it should lead everyone through it, maybe with some minor scars. If recovery fails, it *is supposed* to tell user to hit ok to exit adept and run dpkg --configure -a... (And not crash, right.) [11:28] oh, hmm [11:28] Which for mysterious errors of this kind is probably the next best thing to magic that we can do. [11:28] if I run it through kdesudo then it stalls on upgrading hal again [11:28] Oh... [11:29] Kdesudo dislikes adept seriously. [11:29] it does seem to [11:29] * Riddell eyes up Tonio_ [11:30] ? [11:30] hum it segfaults, indeed :) [11:31] /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu.distrib "adept updater" that works fine [11:31] Riddell: sudo adept_manager fails too [11:31] Tonio_: we're talking about adept 3 alpaha in ~mornfall PPA [11:31] hum oki testing [11:34] I wonder if it's to do with adept being a KUniqueApp again, that confused it before I remember [11:34] Riddell, I've been having a few hal issues after installing and purging kubuntu-kde4-desktop, don't know if it's related though. [11:35] Riddell: Oh, it is? [11:36] It's not. [11:36] KApplication app; [11:36] mornfall: oh well, there goes that idea [11:36] I'm wary of KUniqueApp after all the su issues. :) [11:37] Riddell: same problem with sudo on my side [11:37] Riddell: searching for a package results a segfault [11:37] Tonio_: What distro? [11:38] Tonio_: It shouldn't happen twice. Probably something about Xapian updates being mishandled somewhere. :| [11:38] mornfall: kubuntu intrepid [11:38] Weird. [11:38] Can you try running it again? [11:39] mornfall: yep [11:40] mornfall: well it now seems to work correctly with kdesudo [11:40] and sudo [11:40] Right. [12:32] Riddell: yay livecd is working again however the usplash went away again :( [12:34] ho hum [12:34] davmor2: so you have a kubuntu desktop? could you send a screenshot? [12:34] 2 ticks just trying the installer [12:54] Ok, so I'm having trouble running self-compiled Qt apps [12:54] Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries [12:54] Aborted (core dumped) [12:55] got gtk-qt-engine installed? [12:55] well, that shouldn't really matter [12:55] do you have two Qts on the system? [12:55] nope [12:56] (nope @ gtk-qt-engine [12:56] uh, I don't think I have 2 Qts [12:56] maybe Qt3 for where KDE3 apps need it [12:56] jonathan@jonathan-desktop:~/gitrepos/screenie$ ldd screenie | grep -i Qt [12:56] libQtGui.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 (0xb763a000) [12:56] libQtCore.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 (0xb740c000) [12:57] Hmm, several different .sos [12:57] Seems I have found the double-free problem afterall... [12:57] I have an so.4.4 [12:58] so.4.4.1 [12:58] so.4 [12:58] and just a plain old .so === hunger_t is now known as hunger [12:58] how do I get it to link against the newest one? [12:58] JontheEchidna: they should be symlinks [12:58] mornfall: I always said you were a genius [12:59] :P [12:59] they are symlinks [12:59] so why isn't it working... [13:03] Happens with multiple apps too [13:05] Riddell: http://aplg.kollide.net/kubuntu/debdiffs/kde4bindings_4.1.0-0ubuntu2_to_ubuntu3.diff [13:06] Riddell: should be http://www.davmor2.co.uk/kde4.png [13:06] hm, some of my keyboard keys stopped working -.- [13:07] JontheEchidna: uninstall kde-nightly [13:07] aaah [13:07] :( [13:07] well that sucks [13:08] * apachelogger needs to get his keyboard fixed [13:09] would I need to recompile stuff? [13:09] nope [13:09] thanks apachelogger [13:09] and idea if/when a fix for kde-nighlty could be made? [13:11] ah good, looks like JontheEchidna's new plasma layout worked then [13:11] :) [13:11] apachelogger: what does that do? [13:11] seems like quite a generic binary name [13:12] also /usr/share/kde4/apps/pykde4/kde4.py isn't executable [13:21] Riddell: indeed [13:21] * apachelogger screwed up [13:21] \sh: does pykde4 need to be executable? [13:24] Riddell: shouldn't the desktop effects be turned on in k-d-s? [13:24] rather than patching kdebase [13:27] morning [13:28] yo vorian [13:28] how goes? [13:33] Morning. [13:37] yo [13:38] <\sh> apachelogger: you mean pykdeuic4 ? yes [13:38] [15:47:35] "/usr/share/kde4/apps/pykde4/kde4.py" [13:38] [15:47:46] <\sh> apachelogger: please fix this for intrepid ;() [13:38] \sh: ^ [13:38] vorian: sanity is leaving [13:39] sanity has left? [13:40] <\sh> apachelogger: nope..this kde4.py does not need to be 755 just 644 [13:40] does pykdeuic4? [13:40] <\sh> it's been imported by some magic pyqt4 stuff [13:40] * apachelogger is wondering whether pykdeuic4 is [13:40] <\sh> apachelogger: pykdeuic4 needs to be 755 because it's being executed [13:41] DRebellion: looking now [13:41] \sh: seems reasonable ;-) [13:41] * apachelogger installs python-kde4-dev [13:42] it's not right now -.- [13:42] <\sh> apachelogger: in intrepid? [13:42] apachelogger: it needs kdebase since that's where the test for blacklist is, k-d-s can only do a simple on or off nothing clever [13:42] yeah [13:43] <\sh> apachelogger: yes..that's why I said, pls fix it..the package in the ppa seems to be more sane then intrepids one.. [13:43] Riddell: ok [13:43] \sh: I am really wondering who made them differ that much :P [13:44] \sh: why do we need to link kde4.py to usr/bin anyway? [13:44] * apachelogger is looking at the hardy package [13:44] <\sh> apachelogger: there is no link of kde4.py to /usr/bin... [13:44] <\sh> apachelogger: pykdeuic4.py needs to be a symlink to /usr/bin/pykdeuic4 [13:45] true [13:45] what about usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/pykde4/kde4.py usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyQt4/uic/widget-plugins/kde4.py [13:45] ^ from the hardy package [13:45] <\sh> apachelogger: kde4.py needs to be symlinked to /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyQt4/uic/widget-plugins/ [13:46] <\sh> apachelogger: that's correct...this kde4.py is a plugin for pyqt4 [13:46] you know [13:46] ruby > python :P [13:46] even packagingwise [13:46] <\sh> apachelogger: without this, the real uic compiler of pyqt4 doesn't know about the kde4 widgets [13:48] <\sh> apachelogger: most people do it manually every time..but this issue is now an upstream issue, actually...because the old upstream tarball worked like a charm ;) [13:48] <\sh> (before it went into kde-svn) [13:48] yeah, I talked with sime [13:49] we came to the conclusion that cmake should create the links [13:49] looking at svn it still doesn't [13:49] <\sh> apachelogger: that sounds very sane...if it's done correctly...but without pyqt4 you can't even use pykde4 [13:49] <\sh> so yes [13:49] * apachelogger fixes that god damn issue upstream [13:50] Riddell: sorry Lunch. The only issue I see with layout and visuals is the white around the volume control applet [13:51] <\sh> apachelogger: it's just important that this issue is being dealt with before intrepid release [13:54] vorian, great [14:51] good morning kubuntu! [14:52] why, it's nixternal [14:52] wasabi Riddell...how goeth your day thus far? [14:53] vorian: we need to get some KDE and Kubuntu swag for Ohio Linux Fest before its to late [14:53] hi Riddell, nixternal [14:53] hiya txwikinger [14:55] nixternal: not bad, working hard on system-config-printer-kde at last [14:55] woo :) [14:56] well, system-config-printer for gnome doesn't pick up our office printers, so maybe I can help out once I figure out where the heck our printers even are right now [14:56] the HP Toolbox thing can pick them up though [14:56] well it picks up the HP printer but doesn't find the Xerox printer [14:57] I've noticed a random HP icon in my systray, not sure where that came from but I want to get rid of it [14:58] that is from the HP toolbox as I have seen it once [15:06] \sh: whom do I poke to get an ok on my patch? [15:06] <\sh> apachelogger: for pykde4 and buildsystem? imho sime [15:07] k [15:58] anyone tried installing kubuntu-restricted-extras on a fresh intrepid lately? [15:59] yeah [15:59] a few days ago [15:59] worked ok [15:59] kinda strange... it wants to install a lot, like firefox ang libgnome stuff [15:59] yeah, I noticed that [15:59] funky :) [15:59] well I already had firefox so I didn't see that [15:59] if I use -R (or --no-install-recommends) it just installs the kubuntu-restricted-extras metapackage and nothing else [16:02] ah I see... kubuntu-restricted-extras just has Recommends for the stuff it needs to install... [16:04] maybe the java plugin recommends firefox and so on? [16:04] or similar for flash [16:05] Jucato: That's so you can remove some stuff without removing the metapackage. [16:06] ScottK: the problem is that on the first install of kubuntu-restricted-extras on a fresh intrepid, it will install 64 packages :) [16:07] Jucato: Yes. That's how metapackages work. It may be that some of the packages have excessive recommends. [16:07] That's worth looking into and fixing. [16:07] http://pastebin.com/m4398fd7f [16:09] Jucato: Definitely some recommends that need to get pared down. [16:09] * Jucato nods [16:11] ScottK: does apt-get automatically install suggests as well? [16:12] Jucato: Not by default. [16:12] oh. sun-java6-plugin depends on (a) firefox [16:13] yep, that seems to be one of the offenders [16:16] I'd suggest hunting down the one that wants gksu. [16:18] ubufox [16:19] I think [16:19] Does it work with kdesudo? [16:20] * JontheEchidna doesn't know much about ubufox [16:20] apachelogger: school has started, i dont know i if i have time in the next weeks [16:22] Btw., what's LPIA, really? "low power x86" is all I can find. [16:22] * ScottK restrains himself from urging people to ignore their studies. [16:22] mornfall: that's it, Intel's mobile device variant of x86 [16:22] mornfall: That's pretty much it. It's for smaller mobile devices. [16:23] not sure what it's marketed as in the real world [16:23] JontheEchidna: yeah, you're right. about ubufox [16:24] firefox-3.0 recommends ubufox; ubufox depends on apturl, apturl depends on synaptic etc. etc. [16:24] Ah, hm, interesting. http://news.cnet.com/Intels-third-stab-at-consumer-electronics/2100-1006_3-5837393.html [16:26] is this the Atom or something else? [16:26] Jucato: Then I think we need to look at ubufox and see if we can get it working on a more KDE like basis (or maybe do a KDE look equivalent as an alternate recommends). [16:28] ScottK: but I'm wondering why sun-java6-plugin depends on firefox [16:28] yuriy: that rings a bell [16:28] (but then again, afaik, Konqueror doesn't need the -plugin actually, only the -bin) [16:28] Riddell: I thinkt that's what's in the netbooks [16:29] FAIK (and [16:29] > according to [1]), Ubuntu's lpia "port" is only about compiling packages [16:29] > using different optimization options. [16:29] > [16:29] > [1] http://lwn.net/Articles/247003/ [16:30] sounds about right [16:38] vorian, how's monkeystudio looking? [16:41] Riddell: could you sponsor bug 255171? [16:41] Launchpad bug 255171 in ktorrent "new upstream release (ktorrent 3.1.2)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/255171 [16:42] (see second debdiff) [16:48] JontheEchidna: I'd need the new .orig [16:48] I'll upload it [16:49] I wonder what the "Holsworthy Memorial Hall meetings" posting to kubuntu-users is about [16:51] Attachment ktorrent_3.1.2+dfsg.1.orig.tar.gz added to bug. [16:55] JontheEchidna: looks good, uploading [16:55] cool [16:56] hypercool! [16:56] as they say in France [16:56] heh [16:57] Riddell: I love the checkers board at restart :) [16:59] apachelogger, ping === Czessi_ is now known as Czessi [18:42] Riddell: there? [18:44] hi devfil [18:45] Riddell: I'm working to kdevelop FTBFS, it build-dep on libcvsservice-dev, it should be removed, right? [18:45] devfil: yes I guess so, libcvsservice-dev isn't in KDE 4 [18:46] Riddell: there is another problem, python2.5 (a build-dep on kdevelop) depends on libdb4.6, kdevelop build-dep on libdb-dev (is install libdb4.7 that conflicts with libdb4.6) [18:46] so, I should patch python2.5 or modify libdb-dev to libdb4.6-dev in build-dep? [18:48] Riddell: maybe build-dep on libdb4.6-dev instead of libdb-dev is the best thing to do [18:50] devfil: why? 4.6 looks old [18:50] oh, you said [18:51] it actually build-dep on 4.7 [18:51] python2.5 on 4.6 [18:51] devfil: right, go with libdb4.6-dev for now I guess [18:51] ok [19:03] 19:01 < DxOffEagle> Riddell: are you the go-to guy for the KDE4.1 packages for kubuntu? Seems like they forget to run update-mime-database... [19:03] 19:03 < Riddell> mm, that should be done by dh_installmime [19:03] note to self, or anyone else who cares to look ^^ [19:03] * Riddell out to watch X-Files film! [19:04] ohhhhh Riddell - do tell what it is like when you get back ;-) [19:04] have fun [19:16] hey there [19:23] Whoot upgraded Ubuntu [19:23] Took a day :) [19:44] <_gunni_> mornfall: Did someone already tested the apt packages in your ppa? [19:44] <_gunni_> (For Hardy) [19:46] _gunni_: aptitude is crashing now since I installed adept and kde4 from PPA, so I wouldn't recommend it right now [19:47] <_gunni_> yuriy: ok [19:49] <_gunni_> yuriy: How about apt-get? I dont use aptitude anyways [19:51] umm it's acting a little weird but I don't know if that's normal [19:51] it's just telling me 2 packages are held back and doing nothing about it [19:51] <_gunni_> yuriy: That yould be normal [19:52] <_gunni_> If you try to install one package of this you should get dependency problems displayed [19:52] <_gunni_> I will just try myself [19:58] <_gunni_> yuriy: For me there are no held packages [19:59] <_gunni_> But aptitude crashing on upgrade, though update works with aptitude [19:59] bug 255412 [19:59] Launchpad bug 255412 in update-manager "Could not install 'linuxz-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-15-generic'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/255412 [20:18] anybody around who can help me figure out why kio_sysinfo doesn't like binary files? [20:19] if I have the files in src/about/kubuntu/images/*.png present [20:19] I get this error when running debuild http://paste.ubuntu.com/34863/ [20:20] if I remove the images directory and remove the entry from about/kubuntu/CMakeLists that installs those files then it compiles [20:20] looks awful but is able to compile install and run [20:21] no idea why [20:21] but apparently those png files require special handling [20:21] but what and how [20:24] yuriy: Oh, hm. Maybe I should update aptitude there as well -- given libapt-pkg has been updated and APT is not famous for ABI compatibility. [20:25] <_gunni_> mornfall: I now can give you a little update on the packages [20:25] <_gunni_> Like yuriy said aptitude is broken, but apt-get functions, adept does not crash anymore on searching, but searching is buggy "fire" does not find firefox, but "firefox" does find it [20:26] <_gunni_> After updating sources apply button is clickable, but has no function as there are no updates [20:26] _gunni_: Well, there's no fire in firefox... it's a keyword-based search. You don't expect google to turn up firefox when you google for fire, do you? [20:26] <_gunni_> In "details" only installed files work [20:27] Indeed, that's not really a bug but missing features. I'll remove the tabs before final. [20:27] <_gunni_> mornfall: well, in the old adept you start typing, and it started search, so i was used to [20:27] (Unless I receive patches to implement them, that is.) [20:27] hi everybody! [20:27] im home! [20:28] <_gunni_> mornfall: So thats the status for me now in hardy [20:28] anyone miss me? [20:28] <_gunni_> Did not try upgrade yet, as there are no upgrades yes [20:29] _gunni_: K, thanks for the report. [20:30] heya coreymon77 :) [20:30] what have you been up to? [20:30] hey [20:30] im back [20:30] ive been in israel [20:31] trip [20:31] just got home earlier today [20:31] 5 weeks [20:31] nice [20:32] shalom [20:32] you to [20:32] o [20:33] its alright, everyone can calm down now, im back [20:33] :) [20:33] ;) [20:34] * skreechmiester hyperventilates [20:35] ... === coreymon is now known as coreymon77 [20:51] <_gunni_> mornfall: Just one additional comment: As the search box is find-as-you-type, in my opinion its not clear, that "fire" does not find firefox [20:52] _gunni_: Dunno. We'll see if additional comments appear on that. [20:53] I actually dislike partial matches, because they pollute the search badly in other cases. [20:53] And compromising valid results for fire getting to firefox sounds as a bad decision to me. [20:53] <_gunni_> If for everyone else its ok, its ok for me, just my thoughts on it. Additionally its because old adept handled it like this [20:53] Yes, I understand. But the search is very different now. [20:54]