[00:09] <AlmightyCthulhu> is realtime kernel being dropped in Intrepid?
[02:22] <csky_max> I just wanted to say that KDE 4.1 in Intrepid is looking splendid so far, thanks for all the hard work. The only bug that's come to my attention in desktop use (Synergy won't behave without root privs) is already entered in Launchpad.
[02:23] <DanaG> wtf... hitting my "play" key fullscreens Evince.
[02:46] <Belboz99> hey all, anyone know if the vbox video driver is working now or not?
[02:47] <RAOF> Is there a vbox video driver?
[02:49] <Belboz99> RAOF, not sure, but I'm running VBox, for virtualizing 8.10, and so far I haven't been able to get it to display more than 640x480
[02:49] <Belboz99> wow, sweet, 228 updates in 9 days ;)
[02:50] <RAOF> Belboz99: That was either a bug in vbox or a bug in the VESA driver.
[02:50] <Belboz99> ah, ok, right
[02:51] <Belboz99> RAOF: would you happen to know why if I install Ubuntu fresh with an LCD HDTV plugged in it properly configures right away, and works great, but if something changes the config it's a royal PITA to get it back?
[02:52] <Belboz99> I've tried everything I can think of, darn thing just won't accept the higher resolutions
[02:52] <RAOF> What do you mean by "if something changes the config"?
[02:52] <Belboz99> that's just it, I don't exactly know what changed
[02:53] <RAOF> What graphics card, etc?
[02:53] <Belboz99> I left work with the machine playing a slideshow of photos (we're a camera store) and when I came back the next day the config was broken
[02:53] <Belboz99> it's a radeon 7000 and the TV is a Samsung ~48" 1920 x 1080
[02:54] <Belboz99> worked fine for about 3 months
[02:54] <RAOF> That seems very strange.
[02:54] <Belboz99> which part :-P
[02:54] <RAOF>  /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be required for any sort of debugging.
[02:54] <RAOF> The "it worked, then it didn't" part.
[02:54] <Belboz99> yeah, I know :(
[02:54] <DanaG> The changing overnight seems strange to me.
[02:54] <DanaG> No updates installed?
[02:55] <Belboz99> well, my boss shut it down, he was trying to show my co-worker
[02:55] <Belboz99> I may have installed updates the night before
[02:55] <Belboz99> I'm not really sure, it's been broken for a week now because I haven't had the time to fix it
[02:55] <RAOF> Ah.  So it's gone for _ages_ without a reboot, but has been getting updates, and then a reboot broke it.
[02:55] <Belboz99> right, that could be it
[02:56] <Belboz99> but there's still something I don't get
[02:56] <RAOF> Using the fglrx driver?  If so, I'd guess kernel module skew.
[02:56] <Belboz99> how is it that when you use the Live-CD it detects everything and works just fine Out-of-the-box?
[02:56] <Belboz99> ew
[02:56] <RAOF> Because you're using a different driver?
[02:57] <RAOF> The livecd will use the open-source driver, which won't be subject to that problem.
[02:57] <Belboz99> I never actually configured this display the second time around, I left it all on the initial config
[02:57] <Belboz99> ah, which driver is that?
[02:57] <Belboz99> radeon?
[02:57] <RAOF> "ati"
[02:57] <Belboz99> ati, ok, I'll try to remember that
[02:57] <RAOF> Which is equivalent to "radeon" for you.
[02:57] <Belboz99> ah, k
[02:58] <Belboz99> I just don't get why if it will configure itself fine at the beginning, you can't simply "redo" that step of the installation post-install
[02:58] <RAOF> You (generally) can.  That'd be "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:59] <Belboz99> heh, that's been borked since 7.04 IIRC
[02:59] <RAOF> Later than that, I think :)
[02:59] <RAOF> 7.10, maybe.
[02:59] <Belboz99> they decided it didn't fit the code or UI standards or something, and took out all the useful display options
[02:59] <Belboz99> yeah, I think you're right
[03:00] <RAOF> No.  They decided that hardcoding those values was stupid when the X server could determine them itself.
[03:00] <RAOF> Thus neatly preventing _
[03:00] <RAOF> _exactly_ your issue :)
[03:00] <Belboz99> lol
[03:00] <Belboz99> I can remove the xorg and run that wierd GUI command and none of it actually "works" :(
[03:00] <Belboz99> xorg.conf
[03:01] <Belboz99> it doesn't work all the time unfortunately
[03:01] <Belboz99> sometimes I need to change my driver from nv to nvidia, or nvidia to nv, and that just made it dirt simple
[03:01] <Belboz99> or configuring exactly which resolutions I want to use
[03:02] <Belboz99> often I don't want to ever use 640x480 or even have it as an option
[03:02] <Belboz99> I have to admit I tried several other Distros after that changed, only to come crawling back because none of them were quite "there" yet
[03:03] <DanaG> DX7 cards like the 7000 aren't supported in fglrx, right?
[03:03] <Belboz99> I don't think they are
[03:03] <Belboz99> but I could be mistaken
[03:03] <Belboz99> I've been trying everything though, it's a royal PITA :(
[03:06] <LSD|Ninja> The 7000 should be more or less supported by open drivers anyway, ATi were open source friendly prior to about r300 (9700 and up)
[03:07] <crdlb> r100 has only ever been supported by the open source driver
[03:08] <crdlb> r200 was supported by both until fglrx dropped support after 8.28 (edgy was the last release to have it)
[03:14] <DanaG> I have my own xorg.conf that I use.
[03:14] <DanaG> www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/xorg.conf
[03:14] <DanaG> has comments, too.
[03:17] <RAOF> DanaG: It's now possible to do synaptics config without SHMConfig in xorg.conf.
[03:17] <RAOF> Or, at least, it's now possible to modify the driver so that you can do that :)
[03:18] <DanaG> Hmm, so where do you set the options?
[03:18] <DanaG> The hal fdi file doesn't provide such an option, at least last time I checked.
[03:18] <RAOF> Well, you don't yet.  But you'd load them as a part of session startup.
[03:18] <DanaG> I'm fine with loading a script -- but what hands the parameters to the driver?
[03:19] <RAOF> Something.
[03:19] <RAOF> Dunno.  It's possible to modify the driver, but that modification hasn't been done yet AIUI.
[03:19] <DanaG> I plan to keep my settings in xorg.conf, since otherwise I can't set options for the GDM screen.
[03:20] <JOEY_w> If i send someone a link to my new laptop specs could they tell me ifs its compatible with ubuntu. Because ive had trouble intalling.
[03:24] <LSD|Ninja> JOEY_w: pastebin it ans link it here
[03:25] <LSD|Ninja> JOEY_w: If it's Intel Centrino though then it should be fine. And if it isn't, well, it's your money :P
[03:30] <DanaG> Handy hint: google for the name of the laptop and the word 'linux'
[03:34] <LSD|Ninja> Buying a Centrino lappy (which, Linux or not, you should be anyway) takes a fair bit of the guesswork out too :P
[03:43] <DanaG> Oh yeah, I booted Hardy on a Toshiba Qosimo X305-Q701 laptop the other day, and several things didn't work.
[03:43] <DanaG> Atheros wifi wasn't even recognized by restricted-manager.
[03:44] <DanaG> GeForce 9700 (ugh, numbering collision with ATI of years past) was too new for restricted-manager, also.  or wait, it's a horse racer now.  (jockey.)
[03:44] <DanaG> s/racer/"driver"/
[03:44] <DanaG> =þ
[03:45] <mphill_> DanaG: are you using amd64 or i386?
[03:45] <DanaG> 64-bit system; 32-bit ISO.
[03:45] <DanaG> It's not my system; it's a friend's system.
[03:45] <DanaG> It booted with VESA driver instead of nv.
[03:45] <mphill_> the madwifi site has excellent directions for you wireless card
[03:46] <mphill_> using the module assistant utility
[03:46] <mphill_> do you can avoid the ndiswrapper
[03:46] <mphill_> s/do/so
[03:46] <LSD|Ninja> You don't need ndiswrAPPER fpor atherons
[03:46] <LSD|Ninja> DanaG: my guess re: the wireless is that it uses teh Atheros n chip (like the MacBooks) which isn't supported by the version of madwifi supplied by Hardy
[03:46] <DanaG> Anyway, he didn't want me to install Ubuntu at least at that time; I'll ask again later.
[03:47] <DanaG> Yeah, it's an N chip.
[03:47] <DanaG> Oh yeah, positive note: Intel eSATA worked, and was even unmountable through right-click.
[03:47] <LSD|Ninja> The chips *is* supported in later versions of madwifi and you can set it up if you really want but I just gave up at that point as I really didn't want to have to compile anything
[03:48] <DanaG> I'm fine with compiling, but I don't want to disrespect my friend's wishes.
[03:48] <DanaG> I can always put it in Virtualbox, anyway.
[03:50] <mphill_> LSD|Ninja: is the module working in intrepid ?
[03:50] <DanaG> I'm waiting for 15" version of this thing: http://gizmodo.com/395586/hp-elitebook-6930p-one-badass-business-laptop
[03:50] <DanaG> s/for/for the/
[03:50] <LSD|Ninja> mphill_: they're moving away from madwifi in Intrepid it seems. I'm not happy about that (the open source drivers SUCK) but they're not givcing us much choice in the matter
[03:51] <LSD|Ninja> Actually, now they've released desktop CDs I should try it on the MacBook again...
[03:51] <DanaG> iwl3945 sucks, too.
[03:52] <LSD|Ninja> It's better than some others out there. Broadcom... *shudders*
[03:53] <DanaG> .... not really.
[03:53] <DanaG> It may be better in principle, and in license....
[03:53] <DanaG> but the throughput sucks.
[03:53] <DanaG> Try running PulseAudio streams through iwl3945.
[03:53] <DanaG> Then try it through ipw3945 (old driver, needs patch to use with newer kernel).
[03:53] <DanaG> Then try it with b43.
[03:54] <LSD|Ninja> My sister is getting better wireless performance than ever before since I punted the shitty broadcom pos in favour of an Intel 3945
[03:54] <DanaG> First doesn't work.... it starts playing, then drops out, then falls back to local audio device.
[03:54] <DanaG> Second works... a bit better....
[03:54] <DanaG> Third actually plays.... but still has some dropouts.
[03:54]  * DanaG goes away for a while.
[03:55]  * DanaG pauses his music, and watches as PulseAudio starts devouring CPU time.
[03:57] <virtualroadside> anyone have any thoughts on why the HAL daemon is ignoring me, before i waste a lot of time trying to figure it out?
[03:58] <virtualroadside> its not setting my fdi values correctly
[03:58] <virtualroadside> well thats not true
[03:58] <virtualroadside> its setting *most* of them correctly
[03:59] <virtualroadside> except the important one :)
[04:26] <xtknight> i'm having trouble running intrepid in a VM.  anyone else?
[04:27] <xtknight> in virtualbox i get a kernel panic message and in vmware it freezes at the gdm with the hourglass cursor
[04:27] <xtknight> tried one daily and Alpha 3
[04:28] <virtualroadside> there was some kind of message about that
[04:29] <virtualroadside> its a known bug
[04:33] <xtknight> ah
[04:41] <nemo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/linux/+bug/246067
[04:41] <nemo> "on Packard: yes, I have Vt-x enabled; and when I disable it I get a kernel panic as well, which ends the same as ANDREA's."
[04:45] <red> So X started working in Ibex for reasons I can't understand; except this laptop keyboard won't work in it. Does anyone have any ideas?
[04:45] <virtualroadside> nice
[04:46] <virtualroadside> what kind of laptop?
[04:46] <red> Dell Inspiron B130.
[04:46] <red> As you can see, the keyboard works just fine in console.
[04:47] <virtualroadside> probably an issue with evdev
[04:47] <red> Anything I can fix without diving into code?
[04:47] <virtualroadside> any errors in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[04:47] <red> lemme check
[04:49] <red> Nope,no errors.
[04:49] <virtualroadside> does it say anything related to your keyboard?
[04:50] <virtualroadside> sudo X -logverbose 7
[04:50] <virtualroadside> do that, then look at the logfile
[04:50] <virtualroadside> might be more helpful
[04:51] <red> The log as it existed didn't say "keyboard" anywhere in it.
[04:51] <virtualroadside> kbd?
[04:52] <red> No kbd, either.  And "sudo X -longverbose 7" just said "server is already active".  Should I kill it and do it again?
[04:52] <red> (kill X that is)
[04:53] <virtualroadside> *nods*
[04:53] <virtualroadside> actually, you'd need to kill gdm
[04:53] <virtualroadside> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:57] <red> Okay, still no mention of the keyboard/kbd in Xorg.0.log after I did that.
[04:57] <red> Which seems odd to me in and of itself, because it mentioned the trackpad and everything else.
[04:58] <virtualroadside> evdev?
[04:59] <virtualroadside> weird
[05:00] <red> It didn't even say anything about evdev; then again I haven't picked around that particular log before.
[05:01] <red> (and truth be told I had to look up evdev to see what it was)
[05:01] <virtualroadside> sounds weird
[05:01] <virtualroadside> mine *just works*
[05:02] <virtualroadside> its my touchpad that i have issues with :)
[05:04] <red> I just find it really odd that the keyboard works here and not in X.  'Course, it's weird that X started working for no apparent reason, too.
[05:05] <virtualroadside> *nods*
[05:06] <red> Well, I thank you for the help. I'll probably just wind up going to a fresh install of Hardy and hope I don't run into the same hibernate/sound issues.
[05:07] <red> But first I think I'll spring this on #ubuntu and just not mention that it's Ibex.
[05:07] <red> Later!
[05:20] <alex_mayorga> by any chance any zoneminder users around?
[05:24] <DanaG> Don't you just love Flash?
[05:25] <red> Okay, so Hobbsee over in #ubuntu said there was a server flag solution to my keyboard problem mentioned here yesterday, but I saw nothing of it on irclogs.ubuntu.com/
This video requires Adobe Flash Player 8.  Please upgrage your Flash player.</caps>
[05:25] <DanaG> (the mock-HTML tags are to spare you the yelling)
[05:25] <Hobbsee> in http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/08/05/%23ubuntu+1.html
[05:26] <LSD|Ninja> DanaG: don't you just love using an OS that's so far off the market share radar it's not funny?
[05:26] <Hobbsee> i think it was then later referenced a few more times
[05:26] <DanaG> Flash is just as CPU-rapeagey on OS X, actually.
[05:27] <Hobbsee> DanaG: yes...it needs to go away.
[05:27] <DanaG> Parents use Photoshop Elements 5.0.... which likes to randomly break its database.
[05:27] <DanaG> It's fixable with one menu entry... but guawd, can't they do it automatically?
[05:28] <DanaG> My parents are fed up with Windows' random breakage, and are pondering OS X -- but I'd like to suggest Ubuntu.  I just don't know how to do it.
[05:28] <RAOF> red: It's something like "IgnoreEmptyInput" or somesuch.
[05:28] <LSD|Ninja> Ubuntu hasn't made me rethink my decision to buy a Mac yet
[05:30] <DanaG> I have my machine set up as a "hackintosh", so I'll let them give that a try first, to see if they like it.
[05:30] <DanaG> Personally, I don't like the window manager, or the mouse acceleration curve, or the lack of touchpad settings (even on real Apple hardware, when compared to the Linux synaptics driver).
[05:30] <alex_mayorga> I've seen cases of sites that refuse to recognize my Flash 10 asn ask me to get a newer one :)
[05:31] <red> Thanks again, Hobbsee.  I put that in Xorg.conf, then?
[05:31] <LSD|Ninja> DanaG: I can't say any of that has been an issue here
[05:31] <DanaG> I'm running into one of those "8 > 10" sites now.
[05:32] <DanaG> If Valve were to port their stuff to Linux... I could give up Windows entirely.
[05:33] <Hobbsee> red: yes
[05:33] <red> Any particular section?
[05:34] <red> Nevermind, I didn't see that.
[05:34] <red> (my mom drank when she was pregnant with me)
[05:34] <DanaG> hAH, Adobe can't do math.
[05:36] <Hobbsee> red: not sure.  i've not upgraded yet
[05:36]  * Hobbsee justheard the solution from -devel
[05:38] <DanaG> stat64("/home/dana/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program Files/RightMark3DSound/DSOUND.dll", 0x32f1fc) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[05:38] <DanaG> write(2, "err:module:attach_process_dlls \""..., 75err:module:attach_process_dlls "DSOUND.dll" failed to initialize, aborting
[05:38] <DanaG> wtf... the file exists!
[05:38] <DanaG> argh.
[05:39] <DanaG> also gives fixme:advapi:RegisterEventSourceA
[05:39] <red> Well, that worked, but now Xfce vomits on me.  Ah well.
[05:41]  * DanaG vomits on XFCE in return.
[05:41] <DanaG> =þ
[05:41] <DanaG> Hey, turnabout is fair play.
[05:43] <red> 2nerds1windowmanager.avi
[06:03] <DanaG> Oh hey, I just had an idea for a cool feature for PulseAudio:
[06:03] <DanaG> For audio devices (such as USB audio devices) that also include HID devices, I'd love to be able to use the HID devices to control only the volume of each associated audio device.
[06:05] <RAOF> DanaG: Yeah.  That'd rock.
[06:08] <DanaG> I just wish somebody would make a 24-bit USB sound card... but perhaps 24-bit is not all that important.
[06:08] <DanaG> Or somebody should make an Expresscard C-Media sound card.
[06:09] <crimsun> I wish sound would just go away.
[06:13] <DanaG> Make yourself deaf, then.  :-!
[06:13] <DanaG> Bad joke.
[06:13] <DanaG> (yeah, that's not lame, it's actually bad.)
[06:15] <crimsun> ...I'm already deaf.
[06:17] <DanaG> I can't tell if you're actually serious.
[06:17] <DanaG> (that's one downside of online communication: no tone of voice)
[06:22] <crimsun> I'm quite serious.
[06:23] <DanaG> Wow.
[06:24] <DanaG> I didn't know that... and honestly, I don't know what else to say.
[06:26] <crimsun> I'm not completely deaf, but I'm very, very, very hard of hearing- to the point that unless I make an effort to read lips, I'm pretty much... well, SOL.
[06:26] <crimsun> So kids, when those commercials tell you to protect your hearing- yeah, do so.
[06:27] <DanaG> I do.  I value my hearing greatly.
[06:27] <DanaG> I'm also hypersensitive (part of asperger syndrome, I think), so my threshold of "too loud" is lower than for most people -- and that helps.
[06:28] <crimsun> I ignored "too loud".
[07:04] <DanaG> Argh, shuffle in QuodLibet is annoying.  You can't even go back ONE song without the order changing.
[07:05] <crimsun> well, the thing about ql is that it really is shuffle.
[07:06] <alex_mayorga> what's the "better" way to kill my locked up firefox so it lefts as much info behind as possible?
[07:10] <DanaG> I'd rather be able to go back at least 3 songs before it reshuffles.
[07:10] <DanaG> 3 songs including the current one.
[07:11] <DanaG> Ooh... it looks like the new EliteBook has ADI1984... which seems to have some jack repurposing stuff, judging by the dialogs present in the driver files.
[07:12] <DanaG> And multi-streaming, too, perhaps.
[07:14] <crimsun> most of the analog devices 19xx are multiopen.
[07:14] <crimsun> it's just a PITA to implement with backward compatibility
[07:14] <crimsun> (don't ask me about OSSv4.1 - it's done differently there)
[07:15] <DanaG> I gave OSS4 one try... and it failed.  Hard-lockups on my cardbus Audigy2.
[07:16] <crimsun> well, the emu10k1 driver is much more mature in ALSA
[07:16] <crimsun> also the case for most HDA codecs, too
[07:16] <crimsun> OSSv4 tends to be more intelligent for ISA (!)
[07:17] <DanaG> "Front Green" and "Front Pink" are what it labeled some ports on my STAC9250.  Though I do know what they mean, my actual ports are not colored.
[07:18] <DanaG> Did I tell you how my capture mysteriously un-broke?
[07:18] <DanaG> It's like there's a different layout in effect.
[07:19] <DanaG> Now it shows a "Front" channel that does nothing, and there are Master and Headphones that both affect volume, and make it silent if they go below 50%.
[07:19] <DanaG> .. and for some reason, that suddenly reminds me of the movie "Speed".
[07:22] <LSD|Ninja> green is line out and pink is microphone iirc
[07:23] <DanaG> yup.
[07:23] <DanaG> It's just odd that the options panel actually NAMED them by color.
[07:28] <DanaG> Heh, ADI has odd codenames: HdAbsolut, HdCharbay, HdCharbayDiscrete, HdDubracamera, HdDubranocamera, HdDanzkacamera, HdDanzkanocamera, HdGalileo, HdHangzhou, HdIkon, HdOlifant, HdPrince, HdPearl, HdSkyy, HdTanqueraycamera, HdTanqueraynocamera, HdTuricamera, HdTurinocamera, HdVox, HdZygoUMA, HdZodiacUMA, HdZygoDiscrete, HdZodiacDiscrete
[07:29] <DanaG> "Absolut" and "Skyy" are types of vodka, I believe.
[07:30] <DanaG> (I remember from seeing ads for each.)
[07:39] <alex_mayorga> I've drank them both so I can confirm ;)
[07:44] <berbsd> I am using a macbook pro. With the latest updates of intrepid, the right click menu is now triggered by the down arrow instead of the right alt-gr key. keyboard settings look fine though. Any thoughts?
[07:44] <LSD|Ninja> Nope, I had Ubuntu on My MacBook for matter of hours before banishing it (and every other Linux) entirely
[07:45] <berbsd> I am pretty impressed with the quality and stability of intrepid at this stage, though the last update was the first one to really destabilize my machine
[07:46] <berbsd> suspend/resume works flawlessly on my macbook pro. performance is good overall.
[07:47] <LSD|Ninja> I'd still rather run OS X
[07:49] <berbsd> I miss apple mail and ichat video conferencing. Leopard is still pretty rough in terms of stability
[07:50] <LSD|Ninja> I can't say stability (or lack thereof) is even on my shortlist of things that annoy me about Leopard. Most of my peeves revolve around how Apple have improved functionality in some areas but completely tanked it in others. Spotlight, Front Row and iCal are just a few examples that come to mind
[07:56] <berbsd> I don't log here very often, but I am surprised it's always so quiet. Is there another channel to visit to hear more about the next release?
[07:58] <Hobbsee> this is it
[07:58] <Hobbsee> it'll get noisier
[07:58] <Hobbsee> well, this is it for support, anyway
[07:58] <DanaG> Stability bores me, on my own machine.
[07:59] <berbsd> maybe I never visit at the right time :-)
[07:59] <DanaG> For the machines of those I help, though, I do want stability.
[08:20] <alex_mayorga> just realizing that the key mappings for mute, volume up, down and others are now broken in this laptop
[08:20] <alex_mayorga> what's the correct package for the buggers?
[08:37] <alex_mayorga> how do I lock the screen on intrepid? the button is now gone
[08:39] <lennie> hi,all ,Today after apt upgrade intrepid, some keyboard keys doesn't work, such as arrow key、pageup pagedown key
[08:40] <alex_mayorga> never mind, found the option under System menu
[08:56] <petoj> hi, do you have the same problem problem as me? My mouse and keyboard are not working in X.
[09:20] <RAOF> Aww, yeah.  Load avg 12.5.  That's what I'm talking about!
[13:36] <afflux> argh, the last few updates seem to have killed my keyboard. pressing the Up Arrow brings up the screenshot dialog, the Home/Pos1 key sends keycode 110 which seems to be mapped to "pause"
[13:40] <Pici> Thats an ugly bug.
[13:50] <ryanakca> oooh, lovely. Booting up into intrepid just gives me moving green squares, no usplash / etc. Anybody else experiencing this? (I'd check lp, but I'm currently in an old hardy kernel recovery mode)
[13:50] <Pici> I get white squares on a red background.
[13:51] <Pici> I'm pretty sure theres a bug about it, I just dont know the #.
[13:52] <ryanakca> Pici: okies, does X come up for you afterwards? The green squares are all I get regardless how long I leave it
[13:53] <Pici> ryanakca: It does. :/
[13:54] <ryanakca> Pici: aha, ``(EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0)'' ``(EE) No drivers available.'' Same thing happens when I try with ``nvidia''
[13:55] <Pici> ryanakca: I'd start with 'vesa' and see if that at least works.
[13:56] <ryanakca> Pici: gah, I need to edit Xorg.conf myself? Or does Intrepid still have the video part of ``sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'' somewhere?
[13:57] <Pici> ryanakca: I'm not sure, my xserver dropped into its bulletproofx failsafe when it couldnt get fglrx to work.
[14:45] <vega--> i also get failsafe mode on every boot, although then just clicking continue takes me to a fully working x with fglrx
[14:45] <vega--> or whatever "low graphics mode"
[14:45] <BUGabundo_work1> humm vega--
[14:46] <BUGabundo_work1> I'm discussing that right now with tseliot on #ubuntu-motu
[14:46] <BUGabundo_work1> vega--: I'm stuck on a low graphics mode too
[14:47] <vega--> i'm not, it just says so at every boot, but then just clicking continue gives full resolution of laptop (with fglrx)
[14:58] <BUGabundo_work1> vega--: but no 3D accelaration
[15:05] <ryanakca> To change tnhe video driver, do I need to edit Xorg.conf myself? Or does Intrepid still have the video part of ``sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'' somewhere?
[15:06] <ryanakca> s/tnhe/the/g
[15:06] <BUGabundo_work1> ryanakca: or with jokey-gtk
[15:08] <ryanakca> BUGabundo_work1: my X is broken :)
[15:10] <ryanakca> BUGabundo_work1: I don't see any video section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ...
[15:29] <BUGabundo_work1> rename xorg.conf
[15:29] <BUGabundo_work1> and restart in recovery console, ryanakca
[15:52] <BUGabundo> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/34783/ dovecot probs ! no one available on #ubuntu-server
[15:52] <BUGabundo> can anyone help ?
[16:31] <Skiessi> hardy's #ubuntu+1 wasn't this quiet
[16:37] <BUGabundo_work1> LOL Skiessi
[16:40] <ryanpg> I'm trying to find a bug related to my key mapping going wonky recently
[16:40] <ryanpg> page up and down are weird (Pg Dn is mapped to "menu") and so is my shift key
[16:41] <Pici> ryanpg: someone had reported that earlier... but I didn't get a bug # out of him.
[16:41] <ryanpg> somehow page up is mapped to "quick find" in firefox
[16:41] <ryanpg> :)
[16:41] <ryanpg> Pici, hrm... launchpad is really difficult to search IMHO
[16:42] <ryanpg> also... my key repeat seems quite trashed... sometimess I get lots of doubles
[16:42] <ryanpg> :P
[16:44] <ryanpg> maybe it's related to the fact that Keyboard Preferences lists my keyboard as "Evdev-managed keyboard"
[16:45] <ryanpg> lol... well that fixed it
[16:46] <ryanpg> in case anyone else shows up with this issue: open "Keyboard Preferences" then "Layout" then click "Reset to Defaults" which sets the model as "Evdev-managed keyboard"
[16:46] <ryanpg> seems to work now
[16:48] <ryanpg> spoke too soon... up arrow is mapped to screen shot! :D
[17:49] <emet> !info arora
[18:47] <Arodon> hey. After updates to xorg a day or two ago my keyboard started to act funky (arrow keys/Home/End/PgUp/PgDown would have no effect or would have weird bindings etc). I solved the problem by going into the Gnome keyboard settings and changing the layout from "Generic 104-key PC" (the old default) to "Evdev-managed-keyboard". Should I report this anywhere? The default for new users seems to be correct
[19:00] <Pici> Arodon: I've seen a few people ask about that today here, but I dont have a bug # for it...
[19:00] <Pici> I'm not sure if its been reported to LP yet.
[19:02] <Arodon> alright. It seems it will only be an issue for people using the upgrade path.
[19:03] <Pici> Arodon: This appears to be the same bug. bug 255008
[19:05] <Arodon> ah yes I missed that one when I was poking around earlier. There was another one (probably related) about someone who's media keys were reporting different scan codes after the upgrade
[20:01] <DanaG> I keep getting this: DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.NotFound: The given volume was not found
[20:29] <DanaG> Heh, I'm using the LEDs on my b43 card to show status and activity of my iwl3945 card.
[20:29] <DanaG> The LED sysfs class is cool.
[23:52] <Jordan_U> My keyboard is working in X after it was broken by bug #254840 but my touchpad is still not working