| === dantalizing is now known as the_apostle | ||
| xien | hi | 08:30 |
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| xien | is this a channel to discuss op decisions about banning people? | 08:30 |
| bazhang | xien, in which channel | 08:31 |
| xien | #ubuntu-pl | 08:33 |
| xien | so? | 08:48 |
| jussi01 | yes, but you need to wait for the -pl ops | 08:50 |
| pressenter | Im here. | 08:50 |
| xien | yes, he is here - the one who banned me | 08:51 |
| jussi01 | xien: Im not an op there, so dont have a say in the matter. but please explain your issue and those with a say can then comment. | 08:56 |
| xien | ok | 08:57 |
| xien | i've told that a girl on a channel dances on a pipe, which op considered as an offence towards her, so he banned me | 08:59 |
| xien | but that was just a joke | 08:59 |
| pressenter | Oh but xien | 08:59 |
| xien | oh but pressenter - she didn't say that she was offended | 09:00 |
| pressenter | please do add that in the maentime you lied to me privately that that user told you that she does not consider it an offence. | 09:00 |
| xien | she didn't also say that she was offended | 09:00 |
| xien | she just said that joke was stupid | 09:01 |
| pressenter | No, she said that you are... hmm. how to put this? Earning your bad reputation points? Something like that. | 09:02 |
| pressenter | Than you called me an as*hole, which i am but still, you lied to me, thats why that ban is staying. | 09:03 |
| xien | that was not a lie but misunderstaning, now i see it and admit: she didn't als say that she was offended | 09:06 |
| xien | it is *you* who considered this as an offence | 09:06 |
| xien | but that was not all | 09:06 |
| xien | then i was offended by her calling me an idiot on that channel you've banned me for an "offence" | 09:07 |
| xien | but you refused to ban her | 09:07 |
| xien | what's wrong? some people are treated more fair, and another less fair? why don't you follow your own rules? | 09:08 |
| pressenter | Well, after calling me an as*hole, you can easily see that i had no trouble in understanding her point of view. ;) | 09:08 |
| pressenter | Yet, please continue. | 09:09 |
| xien | primo: i called you an asshole *after* you've banned me | 09:09 |
| xien | secundo: i did it in private message, not channel, cause that was my private opinion about you | 09:09 |
| === Rafik_ is now known as Rafik | ||
| pressenter | Yet, you argued with that user that pole dancing is not offending. ;) | 09:12 |
| pressenter | What was she suppose to say? | 09:12 |
| xien | not argued, but wanted to discuss with her | 09:13 |
| pressenter | "Oh, sorry, youre right, im dreaming about this"? | 09:13 |
| xien | yes, you are | 09:13 |
| xien | i was asking her about opinion of your ban | 09:13 |
| xien | and liked her to admit that pole dancing is nothing offending | 09:14 |
| xien | remember that she *didn't* say she was offended, and i still feel offended by her calling me an idiot | 09:15 |
| pressenter | Which she dod not. | 09:15 |
| xien | yes, she did say that | 09:15 |
| pressenter | *did | 09:15 |
| pressenter | You mean to tell me, that she did admit that pole dancing is nothing offending? | 09:16 |
| xien | no, she didn't want discuss about that | 09:16 |
| xien | ok, consider this: calling someone "pole dancer" isn't an offence in this country, it's more like a joke | 09:18 |
| pressenter | Which country? | 09:19 |
| xien | in your country, and mine: poland | 09:20 |
| * Myrtti lols | 09:20 | |
| bazhang | irc-land | 09:20 |
| Myrtti | hah. Pole dancer *cough* | 09:20 |
| pressenter | Its a lame irc joke, and only when you say it to a guy. | 09:20 |
| Myrtti | if you say so | 09:21 |
| pressenter | I think so, correct me if im wrong. | 09:21 |
| xien | and when you say it to a girl it may mean that she expresses her sexuality (which that woman *did* not once, not twice - showing her pictures on a channel) | 09:21 |
| Myrtti | I find it funny though - we do have pole dancing studios here for excersising in Finland | 09:21 |
| pressenter | Myrtti: Hah, that one i did not know. xD | 09:22 |
| pressenter | Myrtti: Yet still, the sense of his words was a bit else, if you know what i mean. | 09:23 |
| Myrtti | yeah, apparently it's quite hip and cool in Hollywood as sports or excersice | 09:23 |
| * Myrtti shrugs | 09:24 | |
| Myrtti | Pole dancer thing was funny though | 09:24 |
| Myrtti | as a separate issue | 09:24 |
| Myrtti | I lolled :-P | 09:24 |
| xien | :) | 09:24 |
| xien | pressenter: please don't force your understanding, remember the context | 09:25 |
| pressenter | I do remembre it. | 09:25 |
| xien | a person came and ask for help, girl said that she doesn't know about ubuntu, i've said that she only dances pole here | 09:26 |
| pressenter | Or are you going to tell me now that the context was pole excersise? | 09:26 |
| xien | nothing offending about that | 09:26 |
| pressenter | Besides we are here because we do not know what to do with this situation. | 09:27 |
| pressenter | We would be glad if some staff would hell. | 09:27 |
| pressenter | *help | 09:27 |
| pressenter | Should that ban stay or shall i take it off? | 09:28 |
| xien | pressenter: it's not about this ban only | 09:28 |
| xien | its about you being inconsequential | 09:29 |
| xien | ban her for offending me or unban me as i didn't offend her | 09:29 |
| pressenter | xien: Now you should tell me what other nicks are you using on ubuntu-pl. | 09:35 |
| pressenter | She has been banned, but youre not, cause you are still sitting there under some other nicks. | 09:36 |
| pressenter | Please give them to me, so i can ban them too. | 09:36 |
| jpds | ubot5: join #ubuntu-ir | 09:41 |
| pressenter | Thought so. | 09:43 |
| xien | she was banned and unbanned a minute after that, so she can join - my ban still stays | 09:53 |
| pressenter | She was unbanned 10 minutes later. | 09:54 |
| pressenter | I told you, give me your other nicks. | 09:54 |
| pressenter | You said nothing. | 09:55 |
| pressenter | You request consequence of me, but refuse it yourself. | 09:55 |
| xien | she was unbanned and can join - i still can't with my main nickname and you know it | 09:56 |
| pressenter | Yet still you are there, and you know it, you told me that straight "in the eyes". | 09:56 |
| xien | yes, i want to see her joining channel to prove it that she can | 09:57 |
| pressenter | Erm... lol? | 09:58 |
| pressenter | 10:48 -!- mode/#ubuntu-pl [-b *!*=szkodnik@*.ssp.dialog.net.pl] by pressenter | 09:58 |
| xien | still remember that i didn't offend her so there was no reason to ban me - which started all this stupid discussion | 09:58 |
| pressenter | Was that a problem? | 09:58 |
| * Myrtti sighs | 09:59 | |
| pressenter | Myrtti: Should i take off his ban? | 10:00 |
| Myrtti | I'm a bit lost with what is going on and what has happened - but you both seem to be having "assume bad faith" thing here | 10:01 |
| Myrtti | neither trusts one another | 10:01 |
| xien | well... i must admit that i expected more positive solution from pressenter | 10:02 |
| xien | he seem to be prejudiced somehow to me | 10:02 |
| Myrtti | and so do you | 10:03 |
| Myrtti | with your extra nicks on -pl | 10:03 |
| Myrtti | pan, meet kettle | 10:03 |
| xien | :) | 10:03 |
| bazhang | pot | 10:03 |
| * Myrtti rolls her eyes | 10:03 | |
| pressenter | Ech, i ain;t got time for this ish. | 10:03 |
| Myrtti | whatEVAH | 10:04 |
| xien | seems that i've been unbanned | 10:05 |
| xien | thank you | 10:05 |
| jpds | ubot5: join #ubuntu-ie | 19:26 |
| jpds | ubot5: join #ubuntu-my | 19:29 |
| === e-jat is now known as e-jat_zZzZ | ||
| Nafallo | lol. Philip5... alla fredrik fran telia.com bannade? vad var det om? :-) | 23:04 |
| Philip5 | måste jag nog satt fel | 23:45 |
| Philip5 | var korvmacka som dök upp igen tror jag | 23:45 |
| Nafallo | Philip5: -b ? :-) | 23:55 |
| Philip5 | jo | 23:55 |
| Nafallo | that wasn't helpful :-P | 23:56 |
| * Nafallo sets -b | 23:56 | |
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