[00:12] How do I get a Mantis card to work? [00:17] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-450761.html [00:19] tried that.. module is loaded but me-tv can't find tuner [01:34] foxbuntu - did oyu say that mythtv supported .mkv playback? [01:35] chuck-, yes it does [01:37] ok [01:37] trying to vnc to this VMWare MythTV instance heh [01:37] probably should dual boot [01:38] Mythbuntu is very easy to get up and running at least initially [02:39] chuck-, i never said it was impossible [02:39] just sometimes it needs maitenance [02:42] hey chuck- come back [02:47] whats up [02:47] messing with Ubuntu atm [02:47] well thats good [02:47] i am running it atm [02:47] got it running and using VNC Viewer to view it through VMWare [02:47] not gonna put it on my main server box till i know wtf im doing heh [02:47] hmm [02:47] you could just dual boot [02:48] yea ill read up on how to do that tomorrow [02:48] i dont know how well video will run on vmware [02:48] oh im just doing this to test/learn it [02:48] ah [02:48] once i dual boot ill test the video with mythtv [02:48] well while i am here you can ask me questions [02:49] k [02:49] thx [02:49] using mythbuntu is pretty straightforward [02:49] yup [02:49] actually i gotta run...the fiance is you know...ugghh..ill be around tomorrow..thanks for offering a helping hand [02:49] heh [02:49] yeah [02:49] see ya [02:49] later [03:43] hmmm guide navigation is extremely slow, making it pretty much useless. first time i have seen it this bad on a fresh install [03:47] hey arent you the one with like 1200 channels [03:48] lol [03:48] i dont have an exact count [03:49] have 3 other front ends, and they arent this slow [03:49] and this one has a new 8800GT i just installed today [03:49] hmm [03:50] whats cpu [03:50] is that slow cpu wise [03:50] AMD 64 300+ [03:50] 3000+ [03:50] 1GB RAM [03:51] Do you see channel icons? [03:51] yeah [03:51] hmm when you are looking at program guide [03:51] do tops [03:51] I've seen bad things happen to the guide on remote frontends when they can't find the channel icons. [03:51] X at 88% [03:51] Ouch [03:52] well thats why thatdood [03:52] :D [03:53] yeah, cpu at 100% not good [03:53] well i am sure you have around 1000 channels [03:54] goto mythweb [03:54] and check out your channels [03:54] any pc on the network ok for that? [03:54] yup [03:54] just wanna make sure before i do it. hehe [03:55] mhm [03:55] just bring up the listings? [03:55] mhm [03:55] lol [03:55] hf with load [03:56] ok, its loaded [03:57] how many channels [03:57] you want me to count all those? [03:57] lol [03:57] theres alot huh [03:58] what number does it start with and end with [03:58] yeah [03:59] 100-999 and then 2049-2999 and then... [03:59] lol hmm [03:59] yeah theres alot [03:59] i wonder why it takes to long to load [04:00] that almost sounded sarcastic [04:00] hehe [04:00] theres a lot it looks like i should remove [04:01] maybe [04:04] did someone ping me? [04:05] no>? [04:05] tgm4883_laptop: pong [04:06] is there a quick way to just start with a fresh database? [04:06] should rescan and remove the audio channels [04:07] you can just delete the channel source [04:07] and start over [04:07] does that clear the database too? [04:10] no [04:10] that gets rid of channels [04:10] you dont need to clear the database' [04:14] i suppose if im using shedules direct, no point in using EIT data [04:16] that would be correct [11:08] anyone know why after a default mythtv install i only have 2 themes? [11:08] there are more than 2 themes in the /usr/share/mythtv/themes dir === chuck-- is now known as chuck- [11:23] chuck-, check the repos [11:24] for more [15:13] hello everyone [15:13] superm1, it worked btw [15:13] thanks very much [15:13] i am having issue trying to get xv working though [15:14] Shadow__X, it worked with an N adapter irght? [15:14] yup [15:14] can you please respond to that thread then? [15:14] with the details i ask for in my post [15:14] dell wireless 1505 which is a broadcom 4311 i believe [15:14] yup [15:14] i'd like to have a concise amount of information about what ends up working for folks when the SRU is ready to be released [15:15] ah alright [15:15] well this wireless n adapter works [15:15] well that's great news :) [15:15] when the GUI is all ready for this, it will make broadcom cards so much less of a pain for people [15:15] mhm [15:16] but now my ati card doesnt want to work with xv [15:16] so no mythtv front end yet [15:16] so the unfortunate thing is i'm not sure how we'll present this information to folks though, because the driver can't be activated by default [15:16] or atleast running while i am using it [15:16] and still want to offer the firmware route [15:16] superm1 restricted driver manager? [15:16] jphillip, it will be in restricted drivers manager [15:16] its just a matter of how to indicate what is what [15:16] so people know what to pick when they open restricted drivers manager [15:17] it doesnt really have a concept of "preferred" drivers [15:17] yep, gotta go through a mess of blacklisting junk [15:17] exactly, and this particular driver requires that you actually update the initramfs too [15:18] Shadow__X, re xv issues, what's the graphics card? [15:18] ati x1400 [15:20] superm1 ever use hdmi (video) output? [15:20] jphillip, yup [15:20] Shadow__X, fglrx or open source drivers? [15:20] fglrx [15:20] I gave it a trial test lasterday but it seemed the res was too wide compared to my vga [15:20] although the open source ones ran pretty well [15:20] Shadow__X, did you turn on the VideoOverlay in your xorg.conf? [15:21] hmm didnt know i had to anymore [15:21] the aticonfig tool has a method to turn it on [15:21] jphillip, unfortunately i see a lot of situations that the EDID just sucks on HDMI [15:21] what resolutions does your tv support natively (by the panel) and what was reported via hdmi? [15:21] and what was reported via VGA? [15:22] well the res should be hardcoded in my xorg.conf, I had to do it that way for the vga [15:22] EDID wasn't working, would alwayd default to 800x600 (I think) [15:22] that was over vga [15:23] EDID wasn't working? well don't expect anything nice out of that then [15:23] did xorg log indicate why it wasn't working? [15:23] 1360x768 res [15:23] i've ran into too long of cables not letting my EDID over VGA [15:23] so if you have multiple VGA cables, worth a shot to try another [15:24] don't think I have any others around, its 6' I think [15:24] either way, odd why the hardcoded res is different with different outputs [15:24] foxbuntu seemed to indicate he has seen the same thing [15:24] well i never hard code resolutions in my xorg.conf [15:24] i use nvidia-auto-select [15:25] which just grabs the best the EDID will do [15:25] so if you aren't using EDID, you have to put in a lot of overrides [15:25] to allow it to use hardcoded resolutions [15:25] because unfortunately there are other timings involved with making a resolution work [15:27] I'll try EDID over hdmi after work, just stuck with my old config that worked with vga for the time being [15:27] trying to figure out if I really need vga on my new tv or not, and how much of a hastle its gonna be otherwise [15:27] my TV advertises more resolutions over VGA than it does on HDMI [15:27] best thing you can do is bring a laptop to the store and try the tv you are thinking of [15:28] just make sure that it has enough video ram to drive the resolution you want [15:28] hmmm wonder what output my eee can do [15:29] that is exactly what i was referring to when i said make sure it has enough video ram :) i doubt it can drive 1080p [15:29] prob not, its shared video memory IIRC [15:29] and my old laptop is pretty terrible in the video dept as well [15:30] just truck my master backend into circuit city [15:30] haha [15:30] well you can always just bring a live disk and ask to "try" one of their laptops on the tv too [15:30] seems like a recipe for failure [15:31] by the time I get someone to allow me to do both [15:31] and hope that the live disc plays nice with the laptop [15:31] well if you are good at convincing them that you want to buy the combo only if they work well together [15:32] after i do that superm1 restartx [15:32] I'd like them to price match newegg too, they are giving away a free harmony 550 with the one I'm looking at [15:32] Shadow__X, yeah [15:32] very doubtful that will happen [15:32] fry's does that stuff though [15:32] where they pricematch the intarweb's tubes [15:32] CC and BB wont match interweb [15:32] unless there is a local shop around [15:32] cc and bb is bad [15:32] would be a shame if they lost a sale over a $50 remote [15:33] haha [15:33] well you can always haggle too [15:33] they dont see it that way [15:33] superm1 most of the time they will only haggle on open box stuff [15:33] that's what most people think [15:34] I used to work at CC, and I've yet to see otherwise (in my area) [15:34] i saw it happen all the time at BB when i worked there [15:34] I've heard it happens, but it must just be random managers trying to make numbers and so on [15:34] exactly [15:34] how did they approach it, ask for a manager? [15:34] yup [15:34] and then talk to the manager about how much they spend there [15:34] and why they deserve a better price [15:36] superm1 was service involved? [15:37] jphillip, generally [15:37] superm1, mplayer still wont play the file [15:37] it says could not open video device [15:37] thats why, service numbers == a bonus for them [15:38] jose_, == Shadow_X? [15:38] yeah nick changed for some reason [15:38] jphillip, yeah well on TVs its not a bad idea anyway though [15:38] brb [15:38] jose_, well your card may support texturedvideo only [15:38] look for xvinfo to see if Xv is enabled at all [15:38] and then /var/log/Xorg.0.log [15:39] xvninfo says no adapters present [15:39] can you pastebin your xorg.0.log if you aren't sure what to look for? [15:39] !pastebin | jose_ [15:39] jose_: when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel. Then please post the link in the channel. [15:39] superm1 I agree, but since working there I generally have a no service policy, save it now and spend it later when I need a replacement [15:40] yeah i know [15:40] brb though [15:40] jphillip, yeah i suppose i haven't bought anything big since i quit [15:40] jphillip, always got the discount on service [15:41] superm1 ya that and when you work there its basically an upgrade policy in a few years, but the average person doesn't get those perks [15:42] jphillip, yeah that's right [15:43] ah the variations of ipods i ended up with over the years due to such policies :) [15:47] super [15:47] superm1, [15:47] xvinfo now gives stuff [15:48] enabling textered video [15:48] but [15:48] when i try and play a file it just exits [15:48] Shadow__X, open it from a terminal instead [15:48] and look for info in that terminal [15:48] alright well what would you want me to use mplayer? [15:49] yeah [15:50] X11 error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 0 [15:50] X11 error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 0 [15:50] it says that alot of times [15:52] hum [15:53] could you possibly try a fresh boot rather than just restarting the X server? [15:53] just to make sure registers are flushed out [15:53] sure [15:53] Section "Device" [15:53] Identifier "Configured Video Device" [15:53] Driver "fglrx" [15:53] Option "VideoOverlay" "on" [15:53] Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off" [15:53] Option "TexturedVideo" "on" [15:53] EndSection [15:53] thats how the device section looks [15:54] brb reboot [15:56] ok back [15:57] !pastebin | Shadow__X [15:57] Shadow__X: when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel. Then please post the link in the channel. [15:59] hmm [15:59] that didnt go well [15:59] alright so what would you like me to try superm1 [15:59] X11 error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 0 [15:59] still says that would ou like me to paste something [16:02] check the logs [16:05] i dont s ee an issue though [16:05] although i am not 100 percent certai nwhat i am looking for [16:06] post the xorg log [16:06] hopefully something stands out there [16:06] that xorg.conf looks right [16:08] http://pastebin.com/d3e2f7398 [16:12] Shadow__X1, well everything appears to be in order there [16:12] cept maybe # [16:12] glesx exec program failed [16:13] only other thing i can recommend is maybe try an alternative driver version [16:13] hmm alright [16:13] like a newer release [16:13] install from ati? [16:13] or from proposed [16:13] from ati [16:13] it builds debs for you [16:13] k [16:16] doing ./ati gives me permision denied [16:16] :( [16:16] do you really need super user for that [16:16] or root to run that [16:20] no [16:20] just sh ./ati-file [16:20] sh ./ati-file --buildandinstallpkg [16:20] better yet [16:21] you can do it as a user [16:21] alright [16:21] thanks [16:21] its going [16:21] i appreciate it [16:23] ok it finished [16:23] did i need to uninstall the old driver or just reboot [16:25] just reboot [16:25] and that should be taken care of [16:25] k thanks hopefully this works that would be nice [16:25] yeah :) [16:25] i have been wanting ti ditch windows on here [16:30] well thats plessant [16:30] i logged into an all white screen [16:30] reminds me of beryl days and xgl [16:31] xvinfo says no adaptors present [16:35] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5197345&postcount=2 [16:35] i found that [16:35] and i have read that it has helped other people [16:35] i will try that [16:35] although i have the e1705 i have the same card [16:36] hopefully that works [16:36] reboot again [16:36] yay [16:42] that didnt fix my issue my desktop still turns all white [16:42] interestingly enough the cube still works [16:42] any ideas [16:46] killall compiz [16:46] hit alt-f2 [16:46] killall compiz.real [16:46] or better yet [16:47] killall compiz.real && metacity [16:47] you might not see what you type but you can type it [16:47] sounds like something in the new driver aint getting along with compiz [16:48] hmm alright well here goodluck to that [16:48] lol [16:48] thanks for all the help [16:49] and hopefully you are getting something out of this as well [16:50] cheers it worked [16:51] well by compiz fusion icon [16:51] its using indirect rendering [16:51] could that be the coulprite [16:53] welp, Shadow_X still got that guide problem =P [16:53] even swapped in a 750W Corsair powersupply (thinking power to the 8800GT might be the problem) [16:53] hmm thatdood i cant even play videos right now [16:54] strange stuff [16:54] yup [16:54] can you play videos [16:54] and to be honest i like mythweb for scheduling shows better but thts me [16:54] I have an AMD 32bit 1.1GHz with 512 RAM and a FX5200 128MB system, and the guide dont freeze up on me. [16:55] hmm [16:55] same cd same updates? [16:55] this AMD 64 2GHz with 1GB ram and an 8800GT, and the guide freezes [16:55] somethin aint right. and Ive tried both QT and OpenGL [16:56] which front end was brought up first [16:56] and variations of the OSD, Alphablending, Solid, transparent Low Med High settings, dont matter, always freezes [16:56] ive tried that too [16:57] low end one was off, brought up the new one, freezes. powered off the new one, powered up the old one, old one works fine, brought up the new one, it freezes, went to the old one and the guide is fine [16:58] no problem with video tho on the new one [16:58] superm1, fglrxinfo is saying mesa project now [16:58] thatdood, it can be an issue with channel icons [16:58] i have heard of that in the past [16:58] Shadow__X, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log [16:58] hmmm k [16:58] Shadow__X, is there an error loading kernel module maybe? [17:00] failed to opem drm connection [17:02] is module fb frame buffer [17:03] (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed! * [17:03] (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) * [17:03] (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO) * [17:03] (WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available [17:03] (EE) fglrx(0): atiddxDriScreenInit failed, GPS not been initialized. [17:03] Shadow__X, try to modprobe fglrx [17:03] and see if there is an error [17:04] nope it just did it [17:04] then there has to be another error in there somewhere [17:04] in that log [17:04] if you are actually able to modprobe without trouble [17:05] (EE) fglrx(0): XMM failed to open CMMQS connection. [17:05] (II) fglrx(0): XMM failed to initialize! [17:05] (II) fglrx(0): Direct rendering disabled [17:06] (II) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable [17:17] yuck... [17:18] that sounds like a driver bug that's out of your control :( [17:18] alright [17:18] so how would i switch back [17:18] oh the fun of ati on linux [17:19] well the open driver should be improving at least now that docs are out there [17:20] i can try that [17:21] how can you switch between drivers i have always used screen and graphics preferences [17:21] brb reboot [17:31] superm1, alright so how should i change the currently being used driver [17:32] Shadow__X, usually remove xorg-driver-fglrx, and then comment out the fglrx driver line in xorg.conf [17:32] and then profit [17:32] profit? [17:33] well that's always the last step of any good howto [17:33] hmm [17:34] well right now my xorg doesnt even have fglrx [17:35] under device section [17:35] does it say load "fglrx" [17:35] ? [17:35] i want to try that one last time with textered [17:35] well if xorg.conf doesnt have fglrx anywhere in it, then it will load the radeon driver [17:35] oh the older version [17:35] then you need to "roll" back the package version [17:35] and remove fglrx-kernel-source package [17:35] that got installed from the drivers at ati website [17:36] hmm alright [17:38] remove it or completely remove it [17:39] either or [17:39] hmm alright and where are the logs for thjis chat [17:40] that's up to your chat client [17:42] oh this channel isnt logged by a bot? [17:47] superm1, xorg fglrx doesnt want to uninstall [17:48] E: xorg-driver-fglrx: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2 [17:48] oh no. that's what Kano was just talking to me about too [17:48] hmm [17:48]