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parallax | Anyone having an odd red and white screen during the boot up process? | 02:33 |
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Cusoon959 | What's the new Ubuntu release called? (next one, not Hardy...) | 07:00 |
persia | Intrepid Ibex | 07:00 |
Cusoon959 | Thanks persia :) | 07:00 |
davmor2 | Morning Everyone | 09:00 |
ara | morning davmor2 | 09:01 |
davmor2 | ara: don't try using yesterday's iso for tests they will all fail :( | 09:01 |
ara | davmor2: thanks for the advice. bad bad news :( | 09:03 |
davmor2 | alternative has missing kernel modules and live has broken x that may or may not have something to do with the missing kernel modules | 09:04 |
persia | No, it was outdated hal. | 09:05 |
persia | (or at least it was for me, who upgraded a system to intrepid yesterday) | 09:05 |
davmor2 | persia: I can only tell you the warning message I received for the alternative cd that said there are missing kernel modules...... | 09:16 |
persia | davmor2: Right. There was that. I think the non-working X was about hal, but it could also have been a side effect of kernel modules. | 09:17 |
davmor2 | :) | 09:17 |
davmor2 | I think that the error message for kernel bugs best sums up yesterdays iso..... Ooooopps | 09:18 |
davmor2 | apachelogger: Morning dude :) | 10:39 |
apachelogger | morning | 10:40 |
* apachelogger needs to get coffee | 10:41 | |
davmor2 | ara: don't use today's alternatives either :) | 10:47 |
ara | davmor2: :) | 10:47 |
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cr3 | schwuk: welcome back! dude, I'd like to bounce a problem with you. got a minute? | 14:34 |
cr3 | ara: I started the hwtest-ldtp integration yesterday and I ran into a problem: there needs to be a way to run some tests as root and some not as root | 14:35 |
cr3 | ara: unless you might've found a way to run the desktop tests as root | 14:35 |
ara | cr3: why is necessary to run the test as root? | 15:17 |
cr3 | ara: some tests require access to devices, such as /dev/sda, and some tests require information which is only available to root such as provided by lshw | 15:27 |
cr3 | hm, I just noticed that lshw describes by machine as a "Computer" when run as non-root and "Laptop" when run as root. | 15:28 |
ara | cr3: yes, for hw that's true, but for desktop testing? | 15:28 |
cr3 | ara: well, I'm hoping that the whole suite could be run at once | 15:28 |
ara | cr3: well, the problem is that we try to mimic as much as possible the end user behaviour | 15:29 |
cr3 | ara: for example, I would like desktop tests to be their own suite which people could choose to run in the same way they might choose to run wireless testing | 15:29 |
ara | cr3: yes, i understand, but I think that we could maybe split between end-user suites & root suites | 15:30 |
ara | cr3: update manager tests, in example, we could test the gksu dialog | 15:31 |
ara | cr3: just an example | 15:31 |
ara | cr3: but we have to try as much as possible to avoid relying on root privileges when running desktop tests | 15:32 |
heno | IMO hwtest should always run as the user and use policy kit to elevate access only for select commands to gather hw info | 15:47 |
cr3 | heno: my concern is that it then becomes necessary for each test to potentially define whether they should run as root or not | 16:11 |
cr3 | heno: (sorry for the lag, I was on the phone with schwuk discussing the next great features in the website) | 16:12 |
cr3 | heno: however, I don't think that's an unreasonable requirement, so I'll start playing with the idea of using the policy kit. in principle, I agree that it would be the right thing to do | 16:13 |
heno | QA meeting about to start in #ubuntu-meeting | 17:59 |
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