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uncleanIm trying to clear disk space and I installed the KDE over the Gnome how can I remove GNOME/00:00
DaskReecH!purekde00:00
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »00:00
uncleanthanks00:01
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uncleanokay i keep getting 'cannot find XXX pkg'00:07
uncleanany other suggestions00:10
tonycampbellHOLLO00:13
tonycampbellHELLO00:13
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szakulecthere should be a warning on the slow keys accessibility feature- I thought my keyboard or driver was acting up because it took so long to get a keypress, and was extremely difficult to work with00:31
dhendu9411does anyone know how to remove a bogus soundcard?00:32
pgreptomHow do i lock/hold a package?  tried "aptitude hold" no luck..  ?00:34
doloanyone here know how to use a makefile?00:43
szakulecdolo: what do you mean?00:55
zzlhow can i adjust the brightness on my sony vaio vgn nr110e?00:58
[pyro]zzl: doesnt it have a function / up arrow key combo or something?00:59
zzli tried the Function keys along with F5 and F6 but it doesn't work01:00
zzlusing the brightness applet doesn't work01:00
rbignallHi I've recently installed a new video card (ATI Radeon 2400PRO)  in my computer and was trying to figure out what driver to use.  It's working, though it jumps when playing a GL game and instead of moving smoothly.  But in the process, sound quit working and I can't get it working again.  Can anyone help me with either problem, getting the drivers set up right or getting sound working again?  Using Hardy Heron.01:00
niziolThis Is no problem01:01
zzlanyone know of a script to decrease the brightness in kubuntu?01:02
zzlanyone?01:10
nuxilwhy do you want that to be a script ? doesnt your monitor has this function?01:12
zzli have a laptop01:12
zzlotherwise, I wouldn't need to worry about brightness01:12
nuxillook int system setting desktop. but i cant remember exactly. im in kde4.1 atm01:13
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dhendu9411zzl: you should be able to set brightness with the function key on the keyboard01:27
dhendu9411what brand laptop?01:27
zzlim using sony vaio vgn-nr110e01:29
dhendu9411none of the keys on the keyboard have a brightness function if used in conjunction with the function key?01:31
LetsGo67How do I remove instruments from a song?01:32
zzlFN+F5 and F6 but it doesn't work01:33
nuxilLetsGo67, this is not a music channel01:33
zzlneither does the brightness app01:33
LetsGo67nuxil where do I get help?01:33
nuxil!google01:33
ubottugoogle is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux:  http://google.com/linux01:33
LetsGo67I used Google nuxil.01:33
nuxilare you talking about a equlizer or something ?01:34
nuxilLetsGo67, maybe amarok has some plugins01:34
LetsGo67Sorry I don't use KDE I'm just asking in #kubuntu because no one in #ubuntu seems to be helping me.01:35
nuxilhaha. thats nothing new :p01:35
alterooHello01:35
zzlpeople are answering your questions in #ubuntu01:35
alterooI'm having a problem with the undead01:35
nuxilLetsGo67, #kubuntu supports kde apps .. not gnome01:35
alterooThey are? grand!01:36
szakulecalteroo: acid/swords are a good choice01:36
alterooAnyway X went beserker nuts01:36
alteroolike 99% of the CPU01:36
alterookilled my Keyboard01:36
LetsGo67How do I remove vocals?01:36
alterooso I went to another machine and sshed in since my music was still running01:37
alterooso I went to another machine and sshed in since my music was still running01:37
alterooso I went to another machine and sshed in since my music was still running01:37
bill__Hello all..01:37
alteroolike 99% of the CPU01:37
alterooIsdle01:37
szakulecLetsGo67: very carefully- and if you can, you should just buy a karoake version of it01:37
alterooaodaj01:37
szakulecLetsGo67: the only choice I know of for Linux is Audacity, but unless it has a strip vocals option, you pretty much have to do it by hand01:38
bill__Bad day had to reinstall kubuntu..01:38
szakulecthat sucks01:38
LetsGo67szakulec it has a revert.01:38
nuxilbill__, whay?01:38
LetsGo67szakulec: where can I buy voice only music?01:38
nuxilLetsGo67, move to #music01:39
szakulecLetsGo67: for more popular stuff, your local big box store should carry Karoake CD's (may be called CD-Gs)01:39
bill__My game files got mixed. If I tried to play one it brought up two...01:39
bill__Plus my system running slow01:40
bill__Nero has a program that strips vocals I think.01:41
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zzlanyone use photoshop?01:42
zzland got it to work with WINE?01:42
* nuxil gives zzl gimp01:43
zzlgimp doesn't have that many tools compared to photoshop01:43
nuxilzzl, it got tonz of pluginz01:46
zzlhmm, never knew that01:48
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LetsGo67thanks01:52
mjponceo/01:52
nuxilwhat is this anbout kwin being so resource hungry01:57
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Fieldyhello, how do i change the font sizes in gtk applications? for example, xchat. not the chat window, but the nick list etc, text size on the buttons, etc02:00
KCyrreHello.02:03
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Dr_willishi02:07
Dr_willisFieldy,  xchat has settings for that in its own settings02:07
FieldyDr_willis: it does for the chat window, but not the nick list or the various buttons02:08
Fieldythat's set in the gtk theme, but i'm not sure how to accomplish that02:08
Dr_willisHmm.. I normally hide the nick listing anyway.02:09
Dr_willisrun the gnome-theme settings tool and set them from there I guess02:09
FieldyDr_willis: ok, i'll have a look. thank you02:10
StrangePuppyhi, is it possible to encrypt existing root partition with cryptsetup? or i need to resize it, create new partition, create new FS using cryptsetup, copy contents, remap new partition as root, delete old root partition, resize new one?02:11
dwidmannStrangePuppy: probably choice b02:26
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dwidmannStrangePuppy: and you also get to have the fun of hoping the initramfs will cope with it (it should, but that doesn't mean it's going to)02:27
StrangePuppydwidmann: thanks02:32
StrangePuppythe passphrase should be asked before INIT?02:32
dwidmannStrangePuppy: I think the passphrase is asked after the initramfs loads02:32
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contrast83Greets, everyone...02:36
contrast83Anyone else having issues with the nVidia driver after the latest updates? I can't get my X server to start.02:37
Daisuke_Laptopdid you use envyng?02:37
Daisuke_Laptop(i have that problem every update)02:37
contrast83Daisuke_Laptop: Yeah, as I have been for a couple months now, no problems until now...02:38
contrast83Daisuke_Laptop: I uninstalled the driver via envyng, rebooted and installed nvidia-glx-new, no joy.02:38
Daisuke_Laptopyeah, i just reinstalled with envyng02:38
Daisuke_Laptopi have not been able to get back to using the "normal" nvidia-glx-new since going to envyng02:39
Daisuke_Laptopa bit upsetting, actually02:39
contrast83I'm giving 2.6.24-18 a try now with the envyng driver...02:40
ForgeAusis there a ping/finger/tracert/etc gui suite for KDE?02:42
nuxilknmap02:44
nuxilntop02:44
sepherhi all02:55
sepherhmm..02:56
sephersure is quiet in here...02:57
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morales i was woundering, can anyone help me out with k3b, everytime i put a avi file to a disk the sound is all crackily i was woundering if anyone can help me out?03:15
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revolution does anyone know how to have the video & sound be preffect cuz i am useing avi files & then putt'n them to a dvd but when i do the picture is preffect & the sound is very stadickie, can anyone tell me how can i make the sound be preffect?03:26
revolution I use K2b to put the avi file to a dvd but when i play the avi file in VLC Media Player the sound & picture r preffect but when i put the avi file to a dvd there's a hole different story for the sound03:27
revolution can anyone help me out???03:28
revolution wtf, why r u ppl ingorning me?03:29
revolution why wont u ppl help me out, that's why ppl come here to get help so why don't u help the ppl that r in need, like me???03:30
hoochymamaok, ill bite.  did you transcode your video to avi??03:32
Hydrogenits due to your skin color, I'd assume03:32
Hydrogenwe don't like white people round these parts03:33
revolution i don't know03:33
hoochymamadid you download the video as an avi file??03:33
revolution the avi file's work fine when i play then in VLC Media Player03:33
revolution yes03:33
hoochymamawhats the different story for the sound??  not syncing??03:34
revolution the sound work's fine when i play it in VLC Media PLayer but when i put the avi file to a disk & watch it on my home dvd player or even on my computer to make sure that it worked right the picture is preffect but the sound, sound's like crap03:35
hoochymamaso the sound is atleast matching the people speaking but it just doesn't sound good?03:36
revolution the sound is more like loud stadick when i put the avi file to a disk03:37
hoochymamamaybe using this method will work better http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/SuSE/2008-06/msg01222.html03:38
hoochymamaseems complicated but if you follow step by step it might work better03:38
revolution ok i can give that a shot03:39
revolution thns hoochymama03:39
hoochymamaor maybe this http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/SuSE/2008-06/msg01234.html03:39
hoochymamaive had good luck using the command line to transcode the video using other tools.  also, I dont have a dvd burner so i actually can burn a video to vcd format and its not that bad03:40
revolution but the thing is that i'm new with us'n kubunti so i don't know much about linux but i'll be back online tomorror gotta attend to my wife for gett'n some if u know what i mean,  :-D  l8tr03:44
mu3enkubuntu-kde403:50
hoochymamawhat about it03:51
mu3enit's another forum, grin...03:51
hoochymamawhere??  you mean another irc??03:51
mu3enroom, channel, whatever03:52
hoochymamaok, be right there03:52
hoochymamanot that many people there03:53
hoochymamaseems there is not that many people here as well03:53
mu3endepends on your location, it's night time for a large bulk of members03:54
mu3endespite almost 300 online members03:54
hoochymamagotcha03:54
hoochymamakde4 is great though.  cant wait till its complete03:55
mu3entechnically it is, you can get support on the kubuntu-kde4 forum03:55
hoochymamasince your there............03:56
mu3enyes03:56
scoopedecan i install kubuntu 64bit on intel core duo?03:57
dwidmannscoopede: no, but you can if you have a core 2 duo03:57
mu3enyes, i have it running on my intel macbook03:57
mu3enas scoopede says03:57
scoopede:-( why?03:58
hoochymama looking to download kmldonkey but it is asking for libplasma1 instead of the installed version 203:58
hoochymamait will be faster...........03:58
dwidmannscoopede: the core duo had the 64-bit functionality either not included or disabled for some reason or other03:58
mu3eni guess core duo needs i38603:59
mu3enand that's in a way more friendly than the 64 bit version03:59
mu3endepending on the user03:59
hoochymama looking to download kmldonkey but it is asking for libplasma1 instead of the installed version 204:00
hoochymamaor any other gnuttela type software04:01
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rabiddachshunddoes awn work well with kde?04:23
naturehello04:31
mu3enhey nature.04:35
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xevious-7.10->8.04 upgrade just crashed midway through. the system doesnt realize that it's only 75% upgraded to 8.04 and i can't restart the upgrade tool (because it was removed from /tmp on reboot). what's the best way to resume the upgrade process?04:42
xevious-i'm currently doing dpkg-reconfigure -a04:45
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chipbuddyi've been downloading themes and icon sets, and i'm pretty happy. but some icons i don't like. how can i add my own icons to the set (really i want to copy the icons from another set). i've found the .icons folder, but how do i navigate it?04:56
mu3enchipbuddy. the file names define how these icons are used by default. replacing the icon in your currently selected icon set's folder set will replace it. remember there are often various sizes, so you need to replace all the ones you want.04:57
mu3enfor example, the kmenu icon is called kmenu.png in the subfolder ~/.kde/icons/......04:58
chipbuddymu3en, i specifically want to change the log off icon, do i need to go through all the folders to find what the name is? or is there some list of names online?04:58
mu3enmaybe you could find a reference online, or you can visually find them in a konqueror layout, or track them down with a search04:59
mu3eni guess you have a headstart since you know the size of the icons...04:59
turtlewindhi05:01
turtlewindI've got a problem with outputting my laptop's display to an external monitor / projector05:02
turtlewindI'm running Kubuntu 8.0405:02
turtlewindon a Dell XPS M133005:02
turtlewindI can output to a separate monitor under Windows05:03
mu3engraphics card?05:03
turtlewindand it works properly while Kubuntu is loading too05:03
mu3ensounds like xconfig05:03
turtlewindnvidia - 8400, I think05:03
flaccid_turtlewind: which driver etc.?05:03
turtlewindthe other thing is I'm running the desktop effects05:03
mu3endo you have the nvidia driver installed and configured05:03
turtlewindnvidia drivers05:03
turtlewindyes05:04
mu3enwhat happens when you use the nvidia config tool?05:04
flaccid_i wouldn't expect it to work with effects05:04
turtlewindOK05:04
turtlewindis there a quick way to disable effects for when I'm making a presentation?05:04
flaccid_turtlewind: this is compiz fusion ?05:04
turtlewindI think so - it's the standard 'desktop effects' in kubuntu 8.0405:05
flaccid_turtlewind: kde3 right?05:05
turtlewindyes05:05
flaccid_turtlewind: how did you turn it on etc. ?05:06
ubuntuHello all, im having some problems with QTparted, it wont let me write partitions to my Harddisk ( my harddisk is completely blank btw, no partitions or anything ), i did manage to write the primary partition but it supposedly writes a swap space but then doesnt recognise it... using kubuntu 7.1005:07
turtlewinder... it was a while ago, but I remember going through all sorts of nonsense with it, I can't remember what problem I had but I don't think I did it the standard way05:07
mu3enturtlewind, yeah, sound like compiz05:08
mu3enubuntu, I always have to close qt parted completely, physically remove the drive (if external) remount it, and then make the next partition05:08
ubuntuthats a problem, this HD is not external05:09
turtlewindI've disabled desktop effects, and it still doesn't work05:09
mu3enubuntu, restarts work too in that case...that's a poor answer i know...otherwise the command line seems to work better05:10
mu3enturtlewind, have you opened nvidia settings?05:10
turtlewindno, I'll do that now05:10
ubuntuok ill try that, thanks anyway mu3en05:11
mu3enturtlewind, check to see if your external monitor/projector is recognized in there. on some of my machines it will not hotplug and i need to restart the machine with the external connected05:11
turtlewindsorry... where is nvidia settings?05:11
turtlewindno, restarting won't help - I tried that before05:11
turtlewindit was working while kubuntu was loading, but as soon as the login screen appeared it stopped working05:11
mu3enthat's beacuse of x05:12
mu3enthe loadup is before X05:12
mu3enas as soon as your x settings (and nvidia card) kick in, you won't see it05:12
mu3enbut at least it is probably seen as connected05:12
flaccid_turtlewind: kwin --replace & is the way to do in konsole. i'll see if there is still a trayicon you can get05:12
mu3ennvidia settings will allow you to activate it05:12
mu3enthe tray icon still exists flaccid_ i have it running05:13
flaccid_mu3en: cool. can you specify the pkg name for turtlewind?05:13
mu3enturtlewind, i think it is called fusion icon, you can find it in adept manager05:14
turtlewindthanks, I'll look for that05:14
flaccid_mu3en: can't see it here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=compiz&searchon=names&suite=hardy&section=all05:14
mu3enturtlewind, i think the command is nvidia_settings05:14
flaccid_!info fusion-icon05:14
ubottufusion-icon (source: fusion-icon): tray icon to launch and manage Compiz Fusion. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.0.0+git20071028-2ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 29 kB, installed size 264 kB05:14
mu3encool05:14
flaccid_didn't come up in search05:14
mu3enmaybe repo issue05:15
chipbuddythank mu3en. i figured it out... after copying over the actual icon, i also had to edit this text file05:15
mu3enchipbuddy, yes, you can do it that way without replacing anything, just edit the description in that definitions file05:16
turtlewindnvidia-settings is not installed, installing it05:16
mu3enturtlewind...i think that should help05:16
flaccid_there is lots on the nvidia config binaries on google and the wiki05:16
mu3enflaccid, turtlewind, a little too much...really can get confusing with ten solutions to each issue05:17
turtlewindthe nvidia settings worked05:17
turtlewindthere's an option for 'twin view'05:17
mu3engrin. cool. and lots of cool options05:18
flaccid_i havnt seen a solution yet mu3en05:18
turtlewindso I just selected that and it works05:18
mu3engrin...05:18
flaccid_havnt seen the x log either..05:18
flaccid_nor the xorg.conf :)05:18
mu3enflaccid, seeing is believing...05:18
mu3enproblem solved...05:18
flaccid_right and im george washington05:18
mu3enhow's that turtlewind?05:19
flaccid_mu3en: sorry what was your solution and to solve which problem?05:19
mu3enflaccid_ external projector on nvidia05:20
turtlewind@muen: I installed nvidia-settings, and selected 'twin view' in that05:20
turtlewindand it worked05:20
turtlewindthat was with the monitor, off to try on the projector now but I guess it's the same05:20
mu3enyeah, and you can do all sorts of cool stuff with cloning/split view/positioning etc...05:21
flaccid_mu3en: and what was the solution?05:21
flaccid_rightio then05:21
mu3enflaccid_ see above turtlewind's confirmation05:21
flaccid_it seems i misunderstood the problem05:22
mu3engrin, yeah, but the boot sequence and the running nvidia were the giveaway.05:22
mu3enonly cause i've bashed my head against a bunch of externals on a bunch of cards for years...legacy of non standard laptops over and over05:23
flaccid_what was the nvidia-settings full command run just then out of interest?05:23
mu3enthat's it...it's a GUI...05:23
flaccid_oh i must be thing nvidia-xconfig or something05:24
mu3enyou can make the same settings changes using commands too though05:24
kairobinhello kallu05:24
mu3enyeah...that's it i think05:25
flaccid_mu3en: ah this is user based and not xorg.conf05:25
turtlewind@flaccid: nvidia-settings loads a graphical window05:26
turtlewindthen I selected the external monitor, hit 'configure' and chose 'twin view'05:26
mu3enflaccid_ it edits the xorg.conf too...05:26
turtlewindit works on the projector too, by the way - thanks to everyone for all the help05:26
flaccid_mu3en: doesn't say that in the man page. it does mention /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc however05:27
flaccid_i think maybe global way is sudo nvidia-xconfig --twinview05:29
mu3enflaccid_ oh, cool, yeah that would make sense. I have a feeling that fro some functions it adds lines...05:29
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flaccid_i dislike the non-standard nature of this but i guess 1 tools is dynamic and 1 is in the xorg.conf05:30
mu3enmu3en, while for others it would just adjust it's own handling parameters...you can do this all manually by adding lines into the xorg. conf defining the 'twinview' 'position' 'size' etc... before restarting the x server05:30
kairobinfaen05:31
kairobinhmm something happens05:31
mu3enflaccid_ that's why it's so confusing...when you come into this thing blank, you have no idea which to edit first, if at all, in what order..etc...05:32
mu3enflaccid_ thankfully since the last couple of cycles, you can do this all very cleanly through adept manager and this nvidia config05:33
flaccid_mu3en: yeah totally and im an ati user atm (not by choice). there is official doco on the driver but its hard to find, in fact i'll look now05:33
flaccid_well the gui tool doesn't write back to xorg.conf but yeah05:33
mu3enflaccid_ right, ATI, Nvidia, Intel, it's all a little difficult, in my experience, ati has really killed me in the past, nvidia has improved vastly in the last couple of years with their binary driver (thoughts about that aside of course)05:34
flaccid_i help here alot and forgot a lot of stuff because of this inconsistency but what i do know for sure is that there are decent amount of common problems with all three of them. so it is true to say that video on linux is poort05:35
mu3enfalccid_ confused rather than poor maybe...get it working and, as turtlewind is about to discover i hope, it really does some great stuff05:36
xevious-my friend's graphics just crapped out because they moved geforce2 drivers into legacy and the driver update didn't realize it had to remove the current nvidia package and install nvidia-legacy05:36
xevious-he was really confused about that05:36
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flaccid_mu3en: there are many bugs/issues when it is working, thats a fact and well documented05:37
judgenhow do i autostart compiz before i get to the desktop?05:38
flaccid_!autostart | judgen05:38
ubottujudgen: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory. For a complete guide, see http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html05:38
judgenflaccid_: thats what i have allready done.05:38
xevious-there's a better way with adding some command to $KDE_WM or something05:38
judgenbut i want it to autostart before kde is loaded.05:38
xevious-i dont use compiz05:38
judgenor atleast the desktop05:38
mu3enflaccid_ there are indeed and many of the weirdness could be ironed out. having said that, i don't have the same screen pounding moments as two years back...05:39
flaccid_well here is the doco http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/173.14.12/README/index.html wasn't that hard to find, its linked on their webpage. here is the Twinview chapter: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/173.14.12/README/chapter-13.html :)05:39
mu3enflaccid_ !!! oh man... moment of nostalgia.. !!! thanks for that...05:39
mu3eni spent like a week in those pages!!!05:40
mu3enit does work, eventually, as long as you ignore other solutions05:40
flaccid_yeah ... sweet and i only came across this a few months ago after i guess a few years of helping (i am yet to get an nvidia card myself but i always get friends to choose nvidia)05:40
mu3enand it's VERY manual05:40
xevious-why does dpkg-reconfigure -a update fonconfig cache over and over for the same fonts?05:40
mu3enrebuilds font cache each time i think xevious05:41
flaccid_mu3en: oh and the last though on the video thing. randr support by the restricted drivers <-- once this is done then thats a vast improvement but really sux now05:41
mu3enflaccid_ let's see how it goes, if i was good at understanding deep level, it would be cool to learn more about the video output madness...but i guess it's way beyond me: maximum respect to the guys for getting us this far05:43
flaccid_mu3en: yeah, all i know is that randr is mad if its supported with dual displays05:45
flaccid_works good with open drivers if no other problems05:45
mu3enflaccid_ sorry to drag it on, but honestly, having done this on macosx, mswin, and linux bases, linux really does have a credible package.05:48
xevious-is there a way to full check all dependencies and recover a running installation?05:48
xevious-s/full/fully05:48
mu3enflaccid_ *can* look and feel awesome05:49
mu3enxevious, is it very heavily customized, or are you just looking to get the initial install back? to do that you can find the default package lists on line and run a big install command, could take time, but will get you back to zero. Assuming adept manager is still operational, that can also help.05:51
xevious-mu3en: it's not customized at all. basic desktop use system. i was just doing a 7.10 to 8.04 upgrade and it crashed midway through05:52
xevious-now dpkg is throwing errors with hal, hal-cups-utils, kde-guidance-powermanager, kubuntu-desktop, network-manager, network-manager-kde, and system-config-printer-kde05:53
xevious-whenever i try to do anything with apt, dpkg, aptitude, adept, etc05:53
mu3enxevious, did you mention the error type?05:55
xevious-a whole bunch of interrelated dependency problems05:55
foolscreenHi there05:57
xevious-is there a way to download the update manager that gets downloaded with the version upgrade button in adept?05:58
mu3enxevious, you may need to try and build backwards from those dependencies, but to be honest, one big preoblem will be that many of the packaes in the dpkg run are kind of conflicting now05:59
mu3encan you still run adept manager graphically?05:59
mu3enand if so, what does it do?05:59
foolscreena basic PyQt signal/slot connection is not working, is it a problem with the Kubuntu PyQt package ?05:59
mu3enthere are repair and fulfill dependency command you can use with apt-get too05:59
foolscreenthis example should work (  http://www.mail-archive.com/pyqt@riverbankcomputing.com/msg12872.html ) but is not on my computer05:59
foolscreeni mean is not working06:00
xevious-adept doesnt show the version upgrade tool06:00
xevious-if i could get that, i'm sure it would continue where it left off06:00
mu3enxevious, try running through the instructions for upgrade on the kubuntu site06:01
brandon_Can anyone help me get a sidewinder gamepad set up?06:01
brandon_I tried the forums, they seem to be for an older kernel (gamepad setup)06:02
flaccid_mu3en: os x or win still more reliable in terms of everything working06:03
mu3enflaccid_ i can't argue with that, 'out of the box' so called is probably a bit more immediate06:04
pgibis there a way to force the kubuntu install cd into console mode or something? I just get a blank screen after bootstrap06:05
brandon_Kubuntu 8,04 / I need some help getting a sidewinder gamepad to work Any takers?06:05
harpreethow do i get 3d desktop on kde 4.1?\06:05
mu3enpgib are you using alternate install cd?06:06
pgibno. I didn't anticipate having graphic problems06:07
mu3enharpreet ask at kubuntu-kde406:07
pgibto be honest, I think the CD may be bad.. going to burn another06:07
mu3enpgib, if ever you have a worry, use the alternate if possible..06:07
pgiblol, it randomly started going. great06:07
mu3enpgib there is a bug on some cards that do cause a long period of blank soemtimes in an install06:08
mu3enbrandon_ what does the system settings / mouse & keyboard / joystock tell you?06:09
brandon_device is not detected06:09
mu3enbrandon_ what about output of lsusb?06:10
flaccid_yeah google the id from lsusb + ubuntu06:10
brandon_pci card (serial)06:10
flaccid_brandon_: get it from lshw06:11
flaccid_brandon_: much on google: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=ubuntu+sidewinder+gamepad&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-806:11
brandon_Sorry but I am a NOOB so you might have to give me more detail06:11
xevious-this'll confuse hte heck out of this install06:11
xevious-i'm just replacing sources.list with a default gutsy sources.list06:11
flaccid_there is a kernel mod for it06:12
brandon_thanks flaccid but I think that is for 7.10 and it does not seem to work06:12
flaccid_xevious-: its easier to disable them all in adept and then re-enable what you want :)06:12
flaccid_brandon_: why does it not work?06:12
brandon_I might have tried a different one. let me check06:13
flaccid_and i provided a set of search results, not 1 7.10 link06:13
brandon_this are for older kernels06:14
brandon_I have tried and it will not find the device under {js0-4}06:14
brandon_am I doing something wrong maybe???06:15
flaccid_brandon_: its for the newest kernel as well: eg. /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/drivers/input/joystick/sidewinder.ko06:15
flaccid_brandon_: what are you trying exactly and what is giving you the error and what is the error exactly. if you generalise we don't know what its actually saying or what you are doing :)06:16
brandon_when I type the cammands and then do the modprobes. It does not list anything. it just retuns as if I typed nothing at all06:17
xevious-hah06:17
mu3enit could be that on a kde level, the change is not refreshed?06:17
xevious-just got the version upgrade button back06:17
mu3enxevious, got it?06:18
mu3engrin06:18
xevious-let's see how this goes06:18
xevious-i wish mcdonalds delivered06:18
brandon_I know I have jscalibrator and joystick installed, I have tried to do the ls modprobe and it shows all modules and gameport is listed but any other modprobe will not list anything06:18
xevious-mu3en: the key was /etc/lsb_release06:19
flaccid_brandon_: if thats the case, it means they loaded successfully.06:19
pgibmcdonalds delivery sounds way too dangerous06:19
xevious-fuel the epidemic!06:19
mu3enxevious, in china, they do...grin...06:19
brandon_But when I go to jscalibrator or joystick. The device is not found.06:19
pgibI'm going to China06:20
flaccid_brandon_: so you loaded them successfully. now check dmesg and /var/log/messages06:20
xevious-oh jeez.06:20
brandon_how do I do that??06:20
mu3enxevious, interesting...could you tell me a little more about the solution?06:20
xevious-apparently i havent successfully fixed anything06:20
xevious-probably just confused it more06:20
flaccid_brandon_: type dmesg and check the other logs in ksystemlog06:21
mu3enxevious, what has happened after the version upgrade button?06:21
xevious-lots of error messages06:21
brandon_dme56 ..It says command not found06:21
xevious-the packages i'm having issues with didnt install successfully then the whole program crashed06:22
flaccid_xevious-: make sure you have a valid sources.list then do the upgrade from konsole and pastebin the output06:22
flaccid_brandon_: you might wanna pastebin the log and/or dmesg06:22
xevious-i'm just gonna boot off a disc and wipe everything except /home and do a fresh install06:22
flaccid_brandon_: if you have this plugged in serial we need to make sure that serial port is also accessible as a device..06:22
flaccid_xevious-: thats pretty drastic06:23
xevious-it'll take less time than trying to fix this06:23
brandon_how do I do that....sorry such a noob06:23
mu3enxevious, it is drastic, but if you are confident to do it safely and quickly, it may be cleaner and easier06:23
xevious-this was originally a 6.04 system i believe06:24
mu3enxevious, i have not version upgraded since three cycles back after losing my temper the first time i tried. since then i always clean install, with a separate home partition in any case06:24
flaccid_xevious-: well im happy to help if you decide to try06:24
mu3enxevious, but i heard some success stories of hardy to gutsy06:24
xevious-gutsy->hardy?06:25
mu3enyeah. it was originally installed as gutsy06:25
mu3enand then upgraded to ahrdy06:26
cpk1is it possible to have k3b rip to flac?06:26
mu3encpk1, is flac installed?06:26
xevious-i upgraded to hardy just fine on three other gutsy systems06:26
cpk1mu3en: just realized I didnt have the command line tools =)06:27
mu3enxevious, yeah, seems to be usually fine06:27
xevious-can a cd image be burned to a dvd?06:27
xevious-aside from wasting space, will it work?06:27
flaccid_xevious-: should do if its an iso9660 or something06:27
mu3enxevious, but well, if it gets tricky, and you don't need to do major backup and restore work, clean is good too..grin...06:27
mu3encan a non dvd drive read a dvd burned as a cd?06:28
brandon_flaccid: are you asking me to bast the log to???06:28
xevious-kubuntu cd install image. only have dvdr media06:28
brandon_Paste*06:28
mu3enxevious, i guess if the drive is combo or dvdrw there might be less issue than cdrw only drive, but i don't really know.06:29
xevious-it's a dvd burner06:29
mu3eni figure if you burn it right, it should likely work06:31
xevious-we'll find out in about 10 minutes06:31
mu3encool06:31
xevious-gonna smoke a cig. bbiab06:32
xevious-i'm impressed with how well this broken install is working06:35
xevious-i'm torrenting a cd image and about to burn it06:35
xevious-i doubt xp half upgraded to vista could do that06:35
brandon_flaccid: are you still here??06:38
mu3enhope the burn works06:38
flaccid_yeah sorry i am, you are not using my current nick so i didn't get a notification..06:39
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flaccid!pastebin | brandon_06:39
ubottubrandon_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:39
brandon_I will have to chk that out and then give you the information you need to help. thanks guys06:40
flaccidok06:40
flaccidbrandon_: if you can pastebin lshw after installing it, that would be great too06:41
brandon_flaccid: is this what you mean http://paste.ubuntu.com/34998/06:42
brandon_this is the entire list of modules06:43
xevious-alright. burning a cd image to a dvd06:43
mu3enyes06:43
flaccidbrandon_: no i request pastebin of dmesg and /var/log/messages and lshw06:43
Makuseru!dvd06:43
ubottuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs06:43
brandon_I have the /var/log/messages but how do I find the other 206:44
xevious-oh it's going06:44
xevious-almost done06:44
mu3encool06:45
mu3enbrandon type dmesg and lshw in your konsole06:45
xevious-alright rebooting06:45
xevious-bbiab hopefully06:45
mu3enhey flaccid_ do you know anything about running i386 over ltsp off a 64bit server, it's working, but i can't use media codecs, it think because w64codecs is installed instead of w32codecs. probably i need to somehow install these in the chroot06:47
mu3enflaccid06:48
brandon_flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/35001/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/35002/   http://paste.ubuntu.com/35003/06:51
Makuseruwhat folder is the sources.list located in?06:51
mu3enmakuseru /etc/apt/sources.list06:52
Makuseruthats what i thought, but nothing shows up06:52
mu3enmakuseru, what is your system status?06:53
mu3enmakuseru, normal kde3 kubuntu install?06:53
Makuserunevermind, its there, i guess i mispelled something earlier06:53
flaccidmu3en: hmm can't say that i do, interesting situation..06:53
brandon_flaccid: i hope this helps. that is deffinitely a lot of info to sort through...06:53
flaccidbrandon_: hehe yeah its normal but, give me a few mins06:54
mu3enflaccid in my quest for thin client bliss, it's the missing link06:54
brandon_flaccid: no probelm. I really appreciate the help!06:54
mu3enflaccid barring of course reinstalling my server as a i386...which is not elegant06:55
xevious-cd image on a dvd dont work, btw07:03
xevious-it tries to reference sectors07:03
xevious-which i'd imagine are quite different on dvds compared to cds07:04
xevious-found a solitary blank cdr tho07:04
xevious-take 207:04
xevious-hike@07:04
flaccidbrandon_: why are you trying to run this dme56 command that doesn't exist?07:11
brandon_I thought you told me too07:11
flaccidnegative07:12
brandon_falccid: my bad07:12
flaccidbrandon_: so this thing is plugged into a pci card which has an rs232 port?07:12
flaccid(serial db9)07:14
brandon_falccid:I guess so... It has a plug that looks similiar to the one for my monitor (pins)07:14
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brandon_falccid: I just installed it the other day07:15
xevious-bouncing around files running on the livecd07:15
brandon_falccid: I took it out of an older PC.07:15
xevious-install07:17
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xevious-i love linux :D07:17
xevious-chatting and browsing the web while installing my OS07:18
faileaslivecd installers are nice like that ;p07:19
xevious-dude i'm just amazed07:19
flaccidbrandon_: pastebin  ls -l /dev | grep -i ttys07:19
xevious-i started in the 72 floppy slackware era07:19
brandon_flaccid: i hope I am helping you find what you need... Excuse my ingorance07:19
faileasxevious-: actually even within the last 5 years, its gotten so much easier ;p07:20
brandon_flaccid: should I put that in a Konsole?07:20
flaccidbrandon_: also i can't see you trying to load sidewinder kernel mod in /var/log/messages at all..07:20
flaccidyeah07:20
flaccidbrandon_: can you also confirm that you have only 1 serial port?07:22
brandon_flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/35008/07:22
brandon_flaccid: I only have one that this will plug into07:23
brandon_flaccid: i believe it has 15 pins ( if that helps)07:24
flaccidok. brandon_ pastebin mdetect -v07:24
brandon_flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/35009/07:25
flaccidbrandon_: and pastebin your xorg.conf for editing for the mouse07:26
flaccidthe mouse definately has to be on /dev/ttyS0 so i'll check xorg.conf and then plug n pray i guess07:27
flaccid(well after i've edited the xorg.conf, its not plug n play or anything ,its the opposite)07:27
brandon_flaccid: remind me where that is.. it will be faster07:30
flaccidbrandon_:  /var/log/Xorg.0.log07:30
brandon_flaccid:http://paste.ubuntu.com/35010/07:32
flaccidbrandon_: woops i asked for the wrong one but that helps to verify some stuff. i mean /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:35
brandon_flaccid: ok jst a second07:35
flaccidbrandon_: i have to run. you basically have to set the mouse in your xorg.conf like how it is on here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206467 using Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0" in07:36
flaccidSection "InputDevice"07:36
flaccidIdentifier "Configured Mouse"07:36
flaccidi gtg but will be back in 1-2 hours07:36
flaccidsorry07:36
brandon_flaccid that's ok Thanks07:37
brandon_flaccid: here it is any way http://paste.ubuntu.com/35011/07:38
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xevious-full install: 20 minutes on a sub 1ghz system07:42
xevious-nice07:42
brandon_flaccid: if you're still here, the plug on this is not round it is rectangular like the plug to my flat panel (vga I guess)07:42
mu3enxevious, nice.07:46
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FuriousGeorgehey all08:13
FuriousGeorgeim thinking about mass deployment...  its actually only 5 identical computers, but it feels pretty mass to me08:14
faileaslol08:15
FuriousGeorgei was thinking i could just use dd to do it, then delete certain files, like the udev rules which associates a network interface  with a mac address08:15
FuriousGeorgedoes this sound sane08:15
faileasdd is fairly slow IIRC08:16
FuriousGeorgeim not to worried about speed with sataII drives08:16
simon__Hallo can anyone help me?08:16
simon__Is there a Ubuntu specialist. !!08:17
* faileas thinks unless you have very specific hardware on all of them OEM install off the alternate disks seems the most sane way of doing it08:17
FuriousGeorgefaileas: i do have specific hardware08:17
FuriousGeorgeand dont forget there is some configuration08:17
simon__Does any off you guys know where i can find commands to the Terminal ?08:18
FuriousGeorgesimon__: lol08:18
faileasmost of my systems never really needed too much ;p08:18
simon__Why08:18
simon__?08:18
faileassimon__: well, what kinda commands?08:18
faileasthe basics?08:18
FuriousGeorgefaileas: not too much time 5 is something08:18
FuriousGeorgesimon__: try googling something like "bash howto"08:18
FuriousGeorgeor "bash tutorial"08:19
simon__Ok great thx ..08:19
simon__thanks08:19
FuriousGeorgeif you really want to learn about linux, google is definitely your friend08:19
FuriousGeorgeyou can even try www.google.com/linux08:19
grassonehi08:20
simon__Thanks George :)08:20
_2!cli | faileas08:23
ubottufaileas: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal08:23
faileas_2 : i'm finr with it, i'm wondering what exatly he needed08:23
_2yeah just posting a resource that the ubuntu team has sanctioned.08:24
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FuriousGeorgesimon__: you know something that's cool about bash:  let's say i have a bunch of data over here on a slow computer that i want to compress and backup across the network.  i can do something like08:24
FuriousGeorgetar cp /home/stan | ssh fast_computer "gzip -9| cat - >> /home/stan/backup.tar.gz"08:24
FuriousGeorgethereby using the fast computer to compress and only using the slow computer to tar it up and send it across the network08:25
_2FuriousGeorge lol  that's so bloated :)))08:25
FuriousGeorge_2: you can do it with less?  cool08:26
_2no i didn't say i could shorten it.   just like the way you did it.  that's all08:29
uncleanHey everyone , I'm trying to free up disk space I Was wonder if there are any programs that measure files that take up the most08:30
_2well actually i think maybe cat can be omitted, but haven't tried it.    it's still "kold"  :)))08:31
_2unclean du08:31
uncleandu?08:32
_2that's what you asked for08:32
_2du -sh .08:32
_2man du08:32
mu3enunclean. konqueror has file size view. that's pretty cool08:33
FuriousGeorgeunclean, to find files of at least one gigabyte i do something like du -h|grep G08:34
FuriousGeorgebut that will also catch files with a capital G in the filename08:34
FuriousGeorge* du -h /var |grep G08:34
FuriousGeorgewill also catch directories with a G worth of files in them08:35
FuriousGeorgeiirc08:35
_2or find /base/dir -size #08:35
mu3enunclean, with file size view you can just see what's big and delete it...08:38
mu3eneven folder by folder08:38
FuriousGeorgeso heres what im thinking of doing then...  m gonna set up one pc how i want it, then im going to dd from one drive to another to clone it.  after i do that, i'm gonna delete dirs like /dev/ /proc/ and /sys/, as well as files like my ssh host keys...08:38
FuriousGeorgethen i change the hostname and voila08:38
crazy_busI knows theres a lot of problems with pulseaudio.  But I still can't get my microphone working (it worked in all previous kubuntu's) The volume is set right up and I've tried all the different devices in audacity but it still wont work08:38
FuriousGeorgeanyone see why that wouldnt work?08:38
FuriousGeorgecrazy_bus: do you see anything in the log to indicate what the problem might be08:39
dwidmannFuriousGeorge: may want to change the UUID of the new partition after doing that08:40
FuriousGeorgedwidmann: wouldnt that be in dev?08:40
crazy_busFuriousGeorge: what would I be looking for?08:40
FuriousGeorgecrazy_bus: try this08:40
FuriousGeorgeopen up a console08:40
FuriousGeorgesudo tail -fn 1000 /var/log/messages08:41
uncleani dont know whats going on I have a 40gb HD all I did was install Ubuntu-Kubuntu-Battle For Wesnoth now I have 600mbs left??08:41
dwidmannFuriousGeorge: I don't think so08:41
_2FuriousGeorge why delete dirs ?08:42
dwidmannunclean: install and run filelight, it'll tell you where your used space is08:42
FuriousGeorgedwidmann: im pretty sure the kernel just reads that off the disk somehow08:42
FuriousGeorge_2: adapting this howto http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Custom_Stage408:42
FuriousGeorgeto my need08:42
_2FuriousGeorge but no need to delete /proc /sys /tmp ...08:42
dwidmannFuriousGeorge: uuid is the partitions unique identifer ... it'll throw the kernel for a  hell of a loop if you try to mount two partitions with the same uuid.08:43
FuriousGeorge_2: well, if i use dd, i dont think i can exclude them like with tar in that other howto08:43
crazy_busFuriousGeorge: nothing recently to do with audacity08:43
crazy_busor any other related audio things08:43
_2FuriousGeorge correct tar would copy the content in ram  but dd will not.      tar will unless you use --one-filesystem     or what ever the switch is.08:44
FuriousGeorgecrazy_bus: are you trying to do things, like record audio, that might indicate what goes on08:44
crazy_busFuriousGeorge: yes08:44
faileaser08:44
faileasi recall seeing DD copy stuff off ram08:44
FuriousGeorgedwidmann: i see your point, but why doesnt this howto address that http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Custom_Stage408:44
FuriousGeorgeive done that before and it works08:44
_2FuriousGeorge NOTE  if the drives are not the same size (block and total) dd will not work like you want it to.08:45
FuriousGeorgecrazy_bus: any idea what hardware you have?08:45
FuriousGeorgeand what kernel module it wants to use?08:45
* faileas thought tar was file level, dd was block level08:45
dwidmannFuriousGeorge: what is the partition type in question, and I'll tell you how to change the uuid08:45
_2dd makes exact copy    white space and all.08:45
crazy_busFuriousGeorge: card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD198x Analog [AD198x Analog]08:45
_2faileas yes exactly.08:46
faileasthere's easier tools for copying a drive though...08:46
FuriousGeorgecrazy_bus: can you find out what kernel modules is supposed to be used with that?08:46
faileaspartimage?08:46
FuriousGeorgefaileas: i would need to do one partition at a time, make all the partitions first, etc08:47
_2faileas still copies blank space also... so still slower than doing the work at the fs level08:47
FuriousGeorgewhereas. since i have identical hardware, i have a unique opportunity to use dd, no?08:47
_2FuriousGeorge yes08:47
FuriousGeorge_2: but its still way fast enough when we are talking about two sata drives08:48
uncleanMy /home/unclean/.strigi/ has 30gb what the heck is that??08:48
faileas_2: my first suggestion was a fresh install on each ;p08:48
FuriousGeorgeunclean: do what _2 recommended or du -h /home/unclean/.sting08:49
_2FuriousGeorge fast enough is a relative term.  if it works for you, i'm fine with it.    and setting the bs= correctly will greatly improve it.08:49
FuriousGeorge_2: whats a good bs to use these days?  4096?08:49
crazy_busFuriousGeorge: where should I look to find out?08:49
_2unclean   find /home/ -size 10M 2>/dev/null08:49
FuriousGeorgecrazy_bus: google something like kernel module <<hardware>>08:50
_2unclean note i used an arbitrary 10M you could specify any lower limit08:50
FuriousGeorgecrazy_bus: or maybe it will jump out at you in the output of sudo lsmod08:50
crazy_busFuriousGeorge: is it snd_hda_intel08:51
dwidmannFuriousGeorge: tune2fs /dev/blah -U $(uuidgen) - xfsa ---------- xfs_admin -U generate -------- reiserfstune -u $(uuidgen) ...08:52
uncleanthat command sets it to 10 mbs?08:52
FuriousGeorgecrazy_bus: just a quick sanity check, did you verify that the device wasnt muted08:52
_2FuriousGeorge the actual bs of the disk in question.   see ecery "block device" does all it's read/writing a full block at a time.  thus if you tell dd to use it's default "512 bytes" it will have to write each block several times to complete each block  if you tell dd to use the actual bs of the device then it will write the full block and move to the next, thereby greatly improving performance.08:52
FuriousGeorgedwidmann: thanks, that could come in handy08:52
crazy_busFuriousGeorge: yes, all the lights are red in kmix and volume right up08:53
_2FuriousGeorge most hdd's are either 2 or 4 k08:53
FuriousGeorgecrazy_bus: try something like dmesg|grep <<audio_hardware>>08:54
FuriousGeorgeor sudo cat /var/log/messages |grep -i <<audio_hardware>08:55
FuriousGeorgedwidmann: wait, why would i need to change the uuid?  the drive is going in another computer08:57
crazy_busI can't find much: iTCO_wdt: Found a ICH8 or ICH8R TCO device (Version=2, TCOBASE=0x0860)08:57
dwidmannFuriousGeorge: oh, it is? ... still probably not a bad idea.08:57
dwidmannjust in case they should ever come back together :)08:57
FuriousGeorgealso, i guess since ill be using an identical kernel, i dont have to delte /proc and /sys on the destination pc08:58
FuriousGeorgeditto for identical hardware and /dev08:58
dwidmannFuriousGeorge: /dev and /proc are "special" filesystems08:59
crazy_busFuriousGeorge: I think this is my problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/19238208:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 192382 in alsa-driver "alsamixer broken in hardy - intel hda" [Undecided,Confirmed]08:59
dwidmannI think a lot if not all of it is generated at boot08:59
FuriousGeorgedwidmann: what about /sys09:00
FuriousGeorgecrazy_bus: how did you figure that out?09:00
crazy_buswell I'm not sure, but similar cards, microphone stopped working in hardy09:01
FuriousGeorgeany workaround there for you?09:02
FuriousGeorgebesides downgrading?09:02
ScorpKinghiya dwidmann09:02
crazy_busdowngrade, upgrade or compile alsa myself09:02
dwidmannhey ScorpKing, how are you?09:02
_2while we are on intel hda  any chance that dapper can support that ?    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d55f6c31e09:02
FuriousGeorgecrazy_bus: the last option sounds not too hard09:02
ScorpKingcrazy_bus: compiling alsa isn't to difficult09:02
dwidmannFuriousGeorge: /sys too09:03
ScorpKingdwidmann: not to bad thanks :)09:03
dwidmanngood to hear :)09:03
* dwidmann moves to OT09:03
FuriousGeorgecp -rp is real slow across two disks with reiserfs source and destination09:04
FuriousGeorgei have tens of thousands of 1MB files09:04
ScorpKing!sound09:05
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP309:05
ScorpKinghmm..09:05
ScorpKing_2: take a look on the alsa website if it's supported09:06
_2ScorpKing in other words compile latest alsa09:06
_2for each kernel update...09:06
ScorpKing_2: alsactl -v will show what version is installed09:07
_2yeah.  and  ?   alsactl version 1.0.1009:08
ScorpKing_2: if you try to compile a different version things can get complicated. most of the time it's just compling alsa with hdaintel support09:08
ScorpKing!hdaintel09:09
ubottuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto09:09
ScorpKingthat should help09:09
ScorpKing_2: if you donwload the alsa source download v1.0.1009:09
ScorpKingdownload*09:09
_2"Update to the Latest Version of ALSA" <<<-09:10
ScorpKing_2: and then you get dependancy hell. i suggest you try v1.0.10 first09:10
_2i'm just quoting the page.09:11
flaccidbrandon_: yeah it should be serial rs232 db9 (pin connector)09:11
crazy_busI'm trying something from the bug page which is sudo module-assistant a-i alsa-source  Then I'm trying that page if it doesn't work09:12
antoniodidatociao09:13
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FuriousGeorgeAug  7 04:14:21 isabel htop: Oh, oh, it's an error! possibly I die!09:15
flaccidbrandon_: give us an update when you available09:15
_2could it be that mine is not an intel hda ???            *-multimedia09:17
_2             description: Multimedia controller09:17
_2             product: ATI Technologies Inc09:17
_2             vendor: ATI Technologies Inc09:17
_2that's very little information for me to assume intel_hda on.09:18
ScorpKing_2: from that page - cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec09:18
crazy_bus*restarting to test sound*09:19
_2but wont that be dependant on the driver installed ?09:19
_2and cat | grep is "useless use of cat"09:19
flaccid_2: doesn't look like intel to me09:19
FuriousGeorgeim getting about 2.5 megs a minute using cp from one drive to another right now...  doesnt that seem too slow by  a factor of 10 or so09:19
_2flaccid i know.  that's why i'm wondering why the hda driver is inserted09:20
flaccid_2: pastebin lspci out of interest for me?09:20
_2k...  no switches ?09:20
_2 /proc/asound/card0/codec#0:Codec: Generic 11c1 ID 104009:21
_2 /proc/asound/card0/codec#3:Codec: Realtek ID 86209:21
_2flaccid here's the long and short of it.  in that order. http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d54434cf5 http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d3207ab9c09:22
flaccidi just like to look at full thing in case its a notebook to which amd are doing like all amd components <--eg.09:22
flaccidwhich is kind of like how this one is. you have heaps of unknown stuff which means no driver detected from kernel/mods09:23
_2oh it's a lappy  and all ati09:23
_2if it hadn't been free, i wouldn't have bought it :)09:24
flaccidtrue. well the support is clearly totally lax09:24
flaccidi think the more recent amd notebooks its better09:25
_2so why am i not seeing any sound device in that lspci ?09:26
crazy_bussign..... now all sound is broken :)09:26
crazy_bus*sigh09:26
flaccid_2: no driver so didn't detect correctly.. it could be on of the unknowns09:26
_2but there is a driver inserted  snd-hda  and audio playback works....09:28
_2anymore thought ?09:28
flaccidwhat connectivity is the soundcard?09:28
_2onboard   "lappy"09:29
_2lsmod | grep snd | pastebin09:29
_2reading standard input09:29
_2http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d3929007609:29
flaccidah right so probably not pci09:29
_2and i have almost no control over the audio device.   alsamixer gives two adjustments  main and igain09:30
tungvsquit09:30
_2lshw gives info on it.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d2010dd309:31
flaccid_2: pastebin aplay -v /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Beep.wav09:31
_2but not much to go on.09:31
_2aplay -v /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Beep_Beep.wav 2>&1 | pastebin09:32
_2reading standard input09:32
_2http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=dfa7ade309:32
flaccidyou have a command called pastebin ? i would usually use pastebinit09:33
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flaccid_2: maybe they can just use the same driver ie. it says Hardware PCM card 0 'HDA ATI SB' device 0 subdevice 009:34
_2flaccid yeah, script i wrote.   pastebinit is not in dapper backports   and it was only writen this year...09:34
flaccidcoolio09:35
_2flaccid yes i saw that.   and was also wondering if sb live would work in place of hda  ???09:35
_2anything that will add some control over the output and get input working09:36
flaccidi have no idea really. this could be because of lack of ati support. can you pastebin cat /proc/asound/cards  and also im trying to remember that alsa command to list cards09:36
_2pasting file /proc/asound/cards09:37
_2http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d6a16dcda09:37
kushouhi guys09:37
_2kushou09:37
kushouyes ?09:37
_2aplay -l | pastebin09:38
_2reading standard input09:38
_2http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d46fc2a7b09:38
flaccid_2: by control, you mean you want to be able to control volume/master?09:39
flaccidah hda generic. maybe they just go under hda-intel always09:39
_2flaccid alsamixer has two adjustments in it.  main and igain09:39
flaccidwell you can use set master channel with kmix and set it to main and done.09:40
_2and seeing that input doesn't work   there is one working slider   main09:40
flaccidright09:40
flaccidyou could google search all the names in the things we looked up like hda ati etc. and see if you can find people doing something about it09:40
_2no way to set pcm and cd seperately09:40
flaccidyeah so probably limitation with the support of the hardware. ie. its closed and thats all the driver can do with this card09:41
flaccidits also possible that you are on an older version of the driver as you are using an older linux/release09:41
_2flaccid k.   well i was just wondering if there was a chance i was using the wrong module.     and i'll also look into building the latest alsa09:42
flaccid_2: well you might need a later kernel at its a kernel mod. i reckon it wouldn't work or detect or use it or anything if it was the wrong driver. i don't see how it would work if its the wrong driver09:43
_2"not very well"  maybe ?09:44
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_2but i think you have probably eliminated that possability with the aplay -v09:45
flaccidwell im pretty sure that ids of some kind would have to match up etc. to be able to allocate it09:45
flaccidcheck how its assigned in /var/log/messages or dmesg..09:46
_2dmesg is void of info on snd09:46
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_2[17186057.792000] hda-intel: Invalid position buffer, using LPIB read method instead.09:46
_2that's all it has on hda09:47
flaccidthere is a bit on google about that but yeah, i think its a case of lack of support because of ati etc.09:48
_2k thanks.  i'll push that to the back burner.09:48
flaccidits like, we have a new hd radeon driver for linux bla bla, we are good becaue of linux support, but reality is for other components there is not much and fglrx is badly supported by ati and has many issues09:49
crazy_busI finally got the microphone to work.  Is it true that you have to compile kopete to use voice chat and google talk?09:49
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flaccidcrazy_bus: its untrue afaik09:49
_2!voip09:50
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about voip09:50
_2pfft09:50
Obsoletist_Crazy: If nothing else, Skype has a very good Linux version, though if your a purist you will resent the fact that it's proprietary...it's so convenient that I suck it up and drive on with it, myself :)09:52
_2flaccid something you said clicked.    i had pcm control with the i386 kernel.   but no vidio support with i385   so i had to up to i686 for vidio and lost one of the three controls plus input/mic    ....   it's got to be a "kernel issue/driver support issue"09:52
mu3ennot sure about voice, but gtalk is fine in kopete for sure09:52
_2s_5_6_g09:53
FuriousGeorgecrazy_bus: sounds true.  how did you get it working?  compiled alsa?09:54
MetaMorfoziSHi all09:55
Obsoletist_Hi Meta09:55
MetaMorfoziSHow can i prevet a module froom loading at boot?09:55
* _2 wonders if he could use a k8 kernel without having to change libc and the rest of the system09:55
MetaMorfoziSI don't want to blacklist it09:55
MetaMorfoziSbecause if i need that i wan't to load that, but i don't want it by default09:55
_2MetaMorfoziS remove it from the initramfs.img ?09:56
FuriousGeorgecrazy_bus: i do notice a "jingle" use flag in gentoo09:56
MetaMorfoziShow?09:56
FuriousGeorgejingle=gtalk voice09:56
Obsoletist_Meta, is said module an applet or application? If so, is it on your panel, on the bottom right of your screen?09:57
_2MetaMorfoziS one question first,   or maybe three.   what module and would it not suit your need to simply remover after it's inserted ?09:57
MetaMorfoziSkernel module09:57
mu3engingle? grin...09:57
ActionParsniphey all09:57
MetaMorfoziSyes, the removing after boot also good09:57
* Obsoletist_ washes his hands of meta's problem...it is over his head!09:57
MetaMorfoziSjust i don't want to rmmod by hand everytime09:57
Obsoletist_Meta, sorry!09:57
MetaMorfoziSNp09:57
_2MetaMorfoziS put in /etc/rc.local   modprobe -r modulename09:58
ActionParsnip_2: couldnt you just blacklist it09:58
_2ActionParsnip he specified "not to blacklist"09:58
mu3enactionparsnip, see above, he still wants it sometimes09:58
MetaMorfoziSokay, thanks09:58
ActionParsnipmu3en: ive come in mid convo, theres not a lot of "above" ;)09:59
MetaMorfoziSActionParsnip > yeh, because i don't need bluetooth, wifi, webcam etc after every boot09:59
MetaMorfoziSbut if i need them then i ned to unblacklist them09:59
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_2i'm just looking for the most simple way to get to the specified end.09:59
MetaMorfoziSif i uses blacklist... the rc.local soution is very nice, i'm doing that now:)09:59
ActionParsnipMetaMorfoziS: why not just have the modules loaded? They dont do any harm09:59
MetaMorfoziSand hal-disable-polling --device /dev/cdrom etc also can be putted here09:59
MetaMorfoziSActionParsnip > it's a notebook09:59
MetaMorfoziSit's an eeepc09:59
MetaMorfoziSit matters:)09:59
ActionParsnipMetaMorfoziS: how much ram you got?10:00
MetaMorfoziSnot in ram10:00
MetaMorfoziSin battery10:00
ActionParsnipMetaMorfoziS: i have an eee pc too10:00
ActionParsnipMetaMorfoziS: oic10:00
MetaMorfoziSanyyways 1gb ddr2 @ 667mhz10:00
MetaMorfoziSit's an 100010:00
MetaMorfoziSh10:00
_2ActionParsnip well.   in some cases that may not be true. "they don't do any harm"  only if they don't allow access to something that you need to protect, and they don't interfear with something else...10:00
ActionParsnipcan anyone help with a command line. I have a script by Agent_bob which takes a string arguement and states if its a kde app or gnome app10:01
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_2ActionParsnip and ?10:02
_2ActionParsnip it should also take piped input10:02
ActionParsnipif i run dpkg --get-selections, I can see all my installed gubbins but would like to feed this to the afore mentioned script to get some intelligent output on ALL my installed apps10:02
_2if i know Agent_bob...  :)10:02
ActionParsnipthats what im after but am unfamiliar with the syntax, can you advise10:03
ActionParsnipits a simple shell script10:03
_2ActionParsnip   dpkg --get-selections | cut -f1 | "your_script"10:04
_2if i know Agent_bob...  :)))10:04
ActionParsnip_2: awesome duder, whats that cut f1 bit?10:05
_2run it without the last pipe to see10:05
_2dpkg --get-selections | cut -f110:05
ActionParsnipahh it hacks the app name (first colomn) from the list10:05
ActionParsnipi get it now10:06
_2:)10:06
_2cut    is a very handy tool10:06
ActionParsnipi was looking at some exec "scipt name" {} \;10:06
ActionParsnipbut its a no go10:06
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_2yeah find would be more or less useless there.10:06
MetaMorfoziSokay, i try the rc.local stuff, brb:)10:07
_2if i know Agent_bob that is...  :)10:07
ActionParsnip_2: apparently so :)\10:07
_2i'm pretty familear with his scripts10:07
crazy_bus_Is it true that you have to compile kopete to use voice chat and google talk? (sorry my connection dropped out)10:07
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ActionParsniphehe ;)10:08
ActionParsnipsneaky10:08
Agent_bobcrazy_bus_ you looking for someone to say "yes it is"  ?10:08
crazy_bus_my connection did drop out so I don't know if anyone replied10:09
Agent_bobActionParsnip not really.  do you remember yestergo i pm'd you that  _2 == Agent_bob   :)10:09
ActionParsnipyeah but ive drank and slept since then :)\10:09
lokai_linHm, I have a python question and I can't seem to join #python10:09
lokai_linWould it be appropriate if I asked it here?10:09
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Agent_bobcrazy_bus_  the answer was no.  but that was an imperfect answer containing some douby.10:10
Agent_bobdoubt10:10
crazy_bus_is it hard to compile or should I try psi (or does that require a compile for jingle too?)10:10
flaccidAgent_bob: interesting. i reckon you should launch a bug on lp to see how people can help/confirm this issue10:11
Agent_bob<flaccid> crazy_bus: its untrue afaik <<>> <Obsoletist_> Crazy: If nothing else, Skype has a very good Linux version, though if your a purist you will resent the fact that it's proprietary...it's so convenient that I suck it up and drive on with it, myself :)  <<>> <mu3en> not sure about voice, but gtalk is fine in kopete for sure  <<>> <FuriousGeorge> crazy_bus: sounds true.  how did you get it working?  compiled alsa?10:13
Agent_bobflaccid are dapper bugs still taken seriously ?10:13
ActionParsnipAgent_bob: my brain does this when i wake up: find /dev/mind/memory/* -mtime +2 -exec rm {} \;10:14
Agent_boblol10:14
Agent_bobActionParsnip understood.10:14
ActionParsniphehe10:14
crazy_bus_FuriousGeorge: yes compiling alsa with sudo module-assistant a-i alsa-source seemed to make it work10:14
Agent_bobcrazy_bus_   that was for you  ^10:15
Agent_bobreposted what you missed.10:15
crazy_bus_thanks,10:15
crazy_bus_to respond to them I've tried skype, but the other person is on dialup for a week and it's not working for them10:15
Agent_bobdialup doesn't work for me either....  but i'm on it.10:16
ActionParsnipdialup is great for email and chatting10:16
faileaseww10:17
faileasdialup10:17
Agent_bobnot so great if the email has pic'ies10:17
harmental80hey guys..how can i save an embedded pdf with konqueror?10:17
ActionParsnipAgent_bob: true enough, but no matter how fast your line is the same trolls will send yuo packets of annnoyance, just a little slower10:17
ActionParsnipharmental80: right click it maybe?10:18
ActionParsnipharmental80: i use rox so i dont really know10:18
Agent_bobActionParsnip lol   well said.   but that wasn't what i meant actually.   although one reason i dropped use of email was the spam content10:18
ActionParsniptasty spam10:18
harmental80ActionParsnip: nop...it doesnt work...all i get i "add bookmark"10:19
Agent_bobactually i don't think i exist.   no email address, no snail mail address, no phone, no credit card, no tax information...   and they say ananimity doesn't exist anymore...10:20
ObsoletistAgent Bob, you are living the DREAM10:20
ActionParsnipAgent_bob: so no Spam, egg, spam, spam, bacon and spam10:21
Agent_bobObsoletist only differance between a dream and a nightmare is one thought...10:21
ObsoletistHey...dream, nightmare, at least your sleeping10:21
Agent_bob:)10:21
ObsoletistSleep is wonderful10:21
crazy_bus_so is there any voice things that will work when one person has dialup?10:22
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ActionParsnipbeer + warm room == sleep10:22
legycsapohi all10:22
ObsoletistPlease...speak not of beer10:22
ActionParsniphi legycsapo10:22
legycsapowhat is this: MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC !!!???10:22
_2Obsoletist vodca ?10:22
mu3encrazy_bus: a phone call?10:22
ObsoletistCrazy_Bus, It costs a little money, but it's cheaper than a phone card10:22
Obsoletist...Skype!10:22
crazy_bus_:)10:23
ActionParsniplegycsapo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19135510:23
Obsoletist_2 Even worse.  <I am in a DRY ENVIRONMENT>10:23
ActionParsnip_2: JimBeam / Woodford Reserve here dude10:23
ObsoletistAnyone who likes booze: Sailor Jerry's Spiced Navy Rum10:24
gnummis there something like google gadgets for kubuntu?10:24
_2what's that south of the border drink with the worm in it.... ?10:24
ActionParsnip_2: TEQUILLA!!10:24
_2who ?10:24
_2:)))10:24
ActionParsnipObsoletist: i find sailor Jerrys a bit sweet10:25
flaccid_2: not sure what you mean with first comment. only dapper security bugs are taken serious10:25
flaccidgenerally10:25
_2flaccid ok.   thanks.    and that's not a security issue at all.10:25
flaccidwhats with two nicks _2?10:25
ObsoletistActionParsnip: That's part of its charm, it is like liquid candy that isn't sickening, like schnapps is...10:26
mu3endon't like gin don't like tonic...i like the captain with...10:26
_2it's a reset thang.   for the most part.   isp does a hickup it changes seemlessly,   but also a location thing.  i can keep up with where in the logs i am by the nicks i use.10:27
_2@ flaccid10:27
gnummwhat is the best program to have widgets on the desktop?10:27
ActionParsnipObsoletist: i prefer bourbons and rums10:27
ActionParsnipgnumm: do you mean like desklet apps tat float around the place?10:27
gnummActionParsnip: something like these google gadgets10:28
_2gnumm best is one of those "off colour" words in linux circles10:28
ActionParsnipgnumm: let me find out what that is10:28
ObsoletistActionParsnip: Nice once in a while, but I haven't developed a taste for bourbon yet.  Wine is a completely different story, and beer is an old standby10:28
ActionParsnipObsoletist: oh hell yeah, king cobra for me please10:29
ActionParsnipgnumm: do you run kde4?10:29
gnummno kde310:29
_2gnumm generally you'll get better and more intelagable response from something like  "what can one use..  or what are my options..."  than you will with "what is best"10:29
ActionParsnipgnumm: if you get kde4 then you can add all sorts of stuff like that10:29
ActionParsnipgnumm: http://vishnus.name/blog/files/vishnu_yahoowidgetmemoryuse.jpg10:30
_2just an "fyi"10:30
ActionParsnipgnumm: google thingys on windows10:30
gnumm_2: ok10:30
ActionParsnipgnumm: http://blog.nixternal.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/kde4fun.png10:30
ActionParsnipgnumm: kde4 with desktop thingys10:30
* ActionParsnip thinks it looks cluttered10:31
gnummthanks10:31
gnummone question about kde 410:31
gnummintrepid comes with kde4.110:31
gnummwill kde 4.2 be in backports?10:31
_2heh ActionParsnip i think a desktop looks cluttered if it has a panel or an icon on it... :)10:32
Jucatognumm: that depends. 4.2 will be released in January. so maybe in backports, or maybe in the usual PPA10:32
mu3en_2 true true10:32
_2Jucato !10:32
Jucatohey binary10:32
ActionParsnipgnumm: no idea dude, id imagine. I use fluxbox10:32
ActionParsnip_2: me too, yakuake al lthe way for me :)10:33
_2ActionParsnip i like yakuake ok, if i could just get rid of that bottom bar it has.10:33
Jucatognumm: if you meant desktop widgets/applets on KDE 3.5, you can use superkaramba10:34
Jucato!superkaramba | gnumm10:34
ubottugnumm: superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org10:34
ActionParsnip_2: oh where it says blah blah kde terminal editor10:34
_2yes10:34
gnummJucato: thanks10:34
ActionParsnipJucato: nice one10:34
_2ActionParsnip yes the title bar   which is not at top but at bottom.10:35
gnummi need things like cpu temp, free ram etc...10:35
gnummas widgets10:35
ActionParsnip_2: i know what you mean. i was looking to remove it but then i figured it wasnt worth the bother and played frets on fire instead BAM!10:35
ActionParsnipgnumm: yeak superkaramba does that10:35
gnummok10:36
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_2flaccid like that hickup.    "woops i'm not here anymore... ah i'm back."10:37
_2only that was a local one and not isp'ish10:37
ActionParsnip_2: why dont you just stay as bob or _2?10:38
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ActionParsnipor be Agent_bob_2 ;)10:39
_2because it ends up as bAgent_bo > obAgent_b > bobAgent_ ...   and that seems to be hard coded into bx  that if the nick is taken it transposes chars. so i set a default and an alternate nick which gives the client a chance to ghost the other nick before using it.10:40
ActionParsnip_2: really, haha thats crazy10:41
_2yeah well i didn't write it.10:41
ActionParsnipindeed10:42
ActionParsnipmind you pidgin changes my nick to ActionParsni1 if im logged in at home and on my work lappy10:42
_2yep.  all irc clients have some system for alternate nicks...10:42
_2some use nick()+_10:43
ActionParsnipyeah thats what they have in the settings as alernatives10:43
_2_2_10:43
_2_2__10:43
_2i use three nicks that are all registered to one account and thus i don't end up with *___ and not identified...   and i also have a beef against the *___ approach it's hard for me to tab complete that   or actually  i can't   bx doesn't handle that well at all.   it lists all possable matches rather than cycling through them10:45
_2da<tab> yelds two lines as follows10:46
_2[Daisuke_Laptop ] [dak            ] [Daisuke_Ido    ] [DarkWizzard    ]10:46
_2[DarthFrog      ] [Daviey         ] [               ] [               ]10:47
ActionParsnip_2: pidgin does that too10:47
_2so that even Daisuke_<tab> is still not enough to complete one nick.10:47
ActionParsnipwhen folks come in a ubuntu, so annoyinig10:47
ActionParsnipwell theres ido and laptop10:47
flaccidi gtg10:48
_2yep.  but if it cycled i could get there quicker.10:48
_2shalom flaccid10:48
_2and thanks for all the fish.10:48
gnummwhich dock should i use on kde? (i don't use compiz)10:48
flaccidcia0ski10:48
ActionParsnip!dock10:50
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about dock10:50
ActionParsnip!kibadock10:50
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kibadock10:50
ActionParsnip!info kibadock10:50
ubottuPackage kibadock does not exist in hardy10:50
ActionParsnipgrr10:50
ActionParsnipkdocker or kibadock are ok10:50
_2!kdocker10:50
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kdocker10:50
ActionParsnip!info kdocker10:51
_2>:|10:51
ubottukdocker (source: kdocker): minimize all applications to system tray. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-0ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 101 kB, installed size 328 kB10:51
gnummi guess kdocker only works with compiz10:51
ActionParsnip!find dock10:51
ubottuFound: docker, haddock, kdocker, knetdockapp, kooldock (and 5 others)10:51
ActionParsniphaha10:51
ActionParsnip!haddock10:51
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about haddock10:51
ActionParsnip!info haddock10:51
ubottuhaddock (source: haddock): Documentation tool for annotated Haskell source code. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-2 (hardy), package size 515 kB, installed size 2132 kB10:51
ActionParsnipill stop now10:52
_2i recall some one singing the praises of kooldock a while back.10:52
_2!info kooldock10:52
ubottukooldock (source: kooldock): Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu3 (hardy), package size 523 kB, installed size 980 kB10:52
_2hmm kooldock dates back as far as dapper. it's in my repos.10:53
_2i may give it a look see,  it's small enough.10:54
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_2kxdocker - innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker10:55
ActionParsnipits fun making Linux look like mac10:56
ActionParsnipfor about 5 mins10:56
_2:)10:57
ActionParsnipgood ol bagheria10:58
eloDo any of you run virtualbox? I am having some issues with it and I suspect them to be Kubuntu related issues not vbox related10:59
_2kwin-baghira - KDE theme for Apple junkies :)11:00
ActionParsnipelo: ask away maybe we can help11:01
elowell i installed it from the sun website and downloaded a decent windows xp install cd since my hp recovery disks aren't supported for a virtual machine11:02
_2elo  not me.   i have used qemu a little and dosemu/dosbox that's the full extent of my emulations exp.11:02
eloanyhow.. I've saved about 3GB on my fat32 partition for the hard disk fo th evm11:02
eloso i install windows flawlessly and start windows through vbox11:03
ActionParsnipok11:03
elobut i am not able to capture my ouse at all11:03
elokeyboard works fine11:03
ActionParsnipelo: press right ctrl maybe11:03
eloi am on an HP laptop (dv8000t)11:03
elowell i did and it only captures keyboard11:03
ActionParsnipelo: did you enable usb support?11:03
eloso my pointing devices are either a synaptics pad or y usb mouse11:03
eloi tried but it doesnt seem to find any usb devices11:04
_2"emulated experance"   is that a vertual knowledge thing ?11:04
ActionParsnipelo: let me websearch11:04
ActionParsnipelo: you running compiz?11:05
eloyeah11:05
elounfortunately compiz is a pain in the neck11:05
ActionParsnipelo: try turning it off and running it11:05
eloi am unable to get youtube full screen anymore11:05
ActionParsnipelo: it is, i hate it11:05
elook how exactly do i turn it off?11:05
ActionParsnipelo: kwin --replce11:06
ActionParsnipreplace11:06
eloby changing window man back to Kwin and decorator back to KDE?11:06
elooh ok11:06
eloso i dont use the fusion icon?11:06
ActionParsnipits been put in a forum, i dunno if it affects it but compiz seems to screw a tonne of stuff up so its a good starting place11:07
ActionParsnipelo: no reason to, you can if you wanna11:07
ActionParsnipsame effect11:07
elothat was some really good observation bro11:07
elolet me try again11:07
* ActionParsnip plays a drumroll11:08
eloalso audio seems not to work11:09
eloonce xp is up i do the install guest devices thing?11:09
ActionParsnipelo: you might need guest OS tools installing11:09
ActionParsnipon your host system11:09
elodude you're awesome11:10
eloi installed guest additions once xp was up11:11
ActionParsnipwhat solved it11:11
ActionParsnipyeah man, sweet11:11
eloand right away it gave me the screen for sun vm guest additions11:11
eloand captured my mouse right away11:11
elono if only the kde 4.1 team could give us a K replacement for compiz11:11
ActionParsnipid try re-enabling the compiz rubbish to see if it works11:11
elooh ok11:11
elocool11:11
ActionParsnipIve had it work myself so should be ok11:11
ActionParsnipany joy?11:14
eloyeah i gues si gotta start figuring out how to make it run on one of my desktops in full screen as if i was on xp11:16
elothat way i can start getting used to running linux only and xp through vm11:17
ActionParsnipchange your res on the desktop11:17
_2"if you are beside yourself with joy, don't scoot over!"11:17
elo_2, also dont fart11:20
* _2 thought that was "if you are behind..."11:22
ActionParsnipor downwind11:24
* _2 points out how easy it is to "lead people into mischief" ^ ;/11:28
jussi01Alright really...11:29
* ActionParsnip listens to the wind and watches the tumbleweeds11:30
* [pyro] chases said tumbleweeds11:31
faileasbleh11:33
faileasa true pyro would set the tumbleweeds on fire11:34
ActionParsnipgood kindling is tumbleweed11:34
eloit's funny how liberal this chan is to offtopic stuff than #ubuntu11:35
elohehe11:35
ActionParsniponly when its THIS dead11:35
eloActionParsnip, how do I fix my audio device problem?11:35
ActionParsnipelo: whats it doing or not doing11:35
elowhe i was starting the vm it said ti couldnt find the sound driver11:35
ActionParsnipis this in your vbox or linux?11:35
_2/nick pyrotechnecal11:36
elovbix11:36
elovbox11:36
ActionParsnipelo: change the sound setting for the box11:36
elowhen i started the device11:36
eloso i shutdown the vm11:36
eloand then change settings and start it up again?11:36
ActionParsnipyeah11:37
ActionParsnipor just close and save the state if you have space, not sure if that works11:37
ActionParsnipelo: you should see alsa / OSS or null11:38
ActionParsnipelo: try all 3 til you win11:38
elok11:38
gianlucahi11:41
ActionParsnipgianluca: hey11:42
marcus!adeptfix11:44
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »11:44
marcusta ubottu11:44
Agent_bobCannot chmod target file "*" Operation not permitted (1)   <<<< that would look like an M$ mount   but it's local and i'm wondering why i'm seeing that message?   can copy/overwrite  but can't chmod ...  ?11:49
eloActionParsnip, do you know how to get the internet working on the vm?11:50
ActionParsnipelo: did you enable network connectivity in the vm?11:50
ActionParsnipelo: if so then its got it11:50
eloi did enable it but it seems not to have the correct device11:51
eloxp doesnt see any ethernet controllers11:51
uncleanWhats the best way to learn shell scripting...11:51
elodo i do the same for this as i did with sound11:51
MetaMorfoziSHey guys!11:51
elokeep trying until i get sumthin?11:51
MetaMorfoziSThanks, the /etc/rc.local stuff worked11:51
MetaMorfoziSnow i have a bit more advanced question11:52
MetaMorfoziShow can i add a path to sudo's $PATH?11:52
ActionParsnipelo: no, in the config make sure you have network connectivity enabled and yuo will get a NIC which will pick up DHCP if you use it11:52
ActionParsnipMetaMorfoziS: sudo isnt a user11:53
elowhen i hit settings, i get this: Could not load the Host USB Proxy Service (VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND). The service might be not installed on the host computer.11:53
MetaMorfoziSyes, i know11:53
MetaMorfoziSi added to /etc/profile, and /root/.profile11:53
ActionParsnipelo: then get web searching :D11:53
MetaMorfoziSthat's work as a normal user11:53
MetaMorfoziSbut not as sudo11:54
MetaMorfoziSi added /opt/bin because i have my scripts here, and i linked firefox etc here too11:54
MetaMorfoziSbut sudo somethinginoptbin.sh says command not found11:54
MetaMorfoziSbut the lol, that it autocompletes some<tab>:)11:54
MetaMorfoziSjust it isn't found...11:54
Agent_bobMetaMorfoziS in gdm   one can use  /etc/gdm/factory-gdm.conf:# contains "SUROOT=<pathvalue>".11:54
Agent_boblet me look.11:55
MetaMorfoziSbut what if i'm from cli11:55
MetaMorfoziS(no x)11:55
MetaMorfoziSi need a more general stuff11:55
Agent_boblet me look.11:55
MetaMorfoziSthanks11:55
Agent_bob /etc/login.defs:# Three items must be defined:  MAIL_DIR, ENV_SUPATH, and ENV_PATH.11:55
eloit shows me 4 Adapter types 2 PC Net and 2 Intels11:55
MetaMorfoziSeh:)11:56
MetaMorfoziSyeah i was also here11:56
ActionParsnipelo: does one have a default gateway?11:56
MetaMorfoziSi have : ENV_SUPATH      PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/opt/bin11:56
MetaMorfoziSand it's still not works11:56
MetaMorfoziSi thin su !=sudo11:56
ActionParsnipsu == switch user11:57
MetaMorfoziSanyways, it isn't solves the problem:/11:57
eloActionParsnip, There's "Adaptor Type" and "Attach To"11:58
ActionParsnipelo: im in over my head now bro. id get websearching a bit11:58
elok, thanks bro11:59
Agent_bobMetaMorfoziS do;  sudo # and in that shell;  echo $PATH11:59
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MetaMorfoziS?12:00
MetaMorfoziSsudo -s you mean?12:00
Agent_bobMetaMorfoziS no.12:00
Agent_bobjust sudo12:00
MetaMorfoziSsimple sudo says it's --help12:00
MetaMorfoziSsudo echo $PATH12:00
Agent_bobok  sudo /bin/bash12:00
MetaMorfoziShas /opt/bin12:00
MetaMorfoziSthat's too12:00
Agent_bobno   "sudo echo $PATH"   that will expand before it su'z12:01
Agent_bobi don't know anyway to protect $* from shell expansion with sudo  so   sudo /bin/bash   then echo $PATH    and see what it has.12:02
MetaMorfoziSi tried^^12:03
MetaMorfoziSit has /oopt/bin too12:03
Agent_boband maybe vanella   sudo    only works for root.  idk.12:03
Agent_bobMetaMorfoziS and your exact problem is ?12:03
Agent_bobwhich 'command'   shows it in /opt/bin  ?12:04
MetaMorfoziSexactly http://paste.ubuntu.com/35064/12:04
MetaMorfoziSit's just a test... but it shows the problem well12:05
Agent_boband was this a typo ?   <MetaMorfoziS> it has /oopt/bin too12:05
MetaMorfoziSyes12:05
MetaMorfoziS/opt/bin what i wanted12:05
MetaMorfoziSmhz is in /opt/bin/mhz12:05
Agent_bobMetaMorfoziS    which mhz   for me please.12:06
MetaMorfoziSmeta@meeeta:~$ which mhz12:06
MetaMorfoziS/opt/bin/mhz12:06
MetaMorfoziSmeta@meeeta:~$ sudo which mhz12:06
Agent_bobMetaMorfoziS and    sudo which mhz    also.12:06
MetaMorfoziS^^12:06
MetaMorfoziSnothing returns12:06
Agent_bobk12:06
Agent_bobhold a sec.12:06
MetaMorfoziSokay, thank you12:07
Agent_bobMetaMorfoziS    sudo -i which mhz12:07
MetaMorfoziSit's ok12:07
Agent_bob?12:08
MetaMorfoziShmm sudo -i do the job12:08
MetaMorfoziSit's works12:08
Agent_bobk is that all you need ?12:08
MetaMorfoziSnearly12:08
MetaMorfoziSbut is that impossiible to leave -i?12:08
MetaMorfoziS The -i (simulate initial login) option runs the shell specified in the passwd(5) entry of the user that the com‐12:08
MetaMorfoziS           mand is being run as.12:08
MetaMorfoziSsounds okay... but can be this is the default?12:09
Agent_bobummm no not default.12:09
Agent_bobyou can use a shell wrapper or alias for that though.12:09
Agent_bobin your  ~/.bash_bashrc   for example;   alias sudo='sudo -i'12:10
Agent_bobi can't see where that would interfear with any normal operations12:10
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Agent_bobMetaMorfoziS i'm puzzeled by one post "<MetaMorfoziS> but is that impossiible to leave -i?"    what exactly do you mean ?12:11
MetaMorfoziSi mean exactly alias sudo='sudo -i' :)12:12
Agent_bobok.   anything else ?12:12
MetaMorfoziSto get sudo etc work...12:12
MetaMorfoziSnothing, thank you it works like charm:)12:12
Agent_bobwelcome.12:12
ActionParsnipgotta love alias12:13
Agent_bobnot as well as function tho12:13
ActionParsnip!function12:13
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about function12:13
ActionParsnip!info function12:13
ubottuPackage function does not exist in hardy12:13
Agent_bobheh      help function     in a bash shell12:14
Agent_bobsame as     help alias12:14
ActionParsnipAgent_bob: i get it. Id just make a script personally12:15
Agent_bobfunctions are much faster than scripts and don't require a sub shell12:15
Agent_bobActionParsnip here's a lesson in functions.   write a script that will let you cd to a dir and stay there when it exits ???     example attempts might look something like    echo 'cd $*' > testing.sh ;chmod 755 testing.sh ;./testing.sh /  # but as you see you end up where you started not where you cd'd too.12:19
Agent_boband here is the funhction counter part to that.    testing() { cd / ; } ;testing /12:19
Agent_bobwhich does achieve the desired end.12:19
Agent_boband while an alias would also work   notice that one can use multiple commands and variables in a function    but not in an alias12:20
Agent_bobwell var's not in alias.12:20
Agent_boban example of that might be something like;  alias wait_boo='cat "$@" | less'     <<< that of course will not work as it looks like it should.    this however will  wait_boo2() { cat "$@" | less ; }12:22
Agent_bobwhen one tries to  wait_boo file1 file2 file3     they are stuck waiting for stdin    but wait_boo2 concatinates all three files into the less filter.12:23
eloActionParsnip, thanks again for your help ... i got the network working too12:23
eloanybody know what i type into console to see what ports are being used currently?12:23
Agent_bobin short  "functions are da bomb"12:24
Agent_bobelo sec and i'll pastebin you a script12:24
eloanother guy messaged me this: lsof -i -nP12:24
elois thi sefficient enough?12:24
elothis*12:25
Agent_bobumm as root yes i think so12:26
Agent_bobas userr no.12:26
dcorbin_workWhat's the correct way with kbuntu to tweak what starts and what doesn't for different init levels.12:27
Agent_bobupdate-rc.d12:28
ActionParsnipelo: oh what did you do?12:28
Agent_bobelo  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=df18cccd   you can at least play with this12:28
eloActionParsnip, I just chose the pcnet one since the user manual said it was the most common12:28
eloand i chose NAT for the Attached To thingy12:28
ActionParsnipelo: sweet12:28
ActionParsnipelo: makes sense12:29
eloI appreciate it Agent_bob12:29
ActionParsnipelo: glad you got it sorted man, i like a success story12:30
dcorbin_workAgent_bob: thanks.12:30
Agent_bobwelcome12:30
dwidmanndcorbin_work: sysv-rc-conf is nice12:30
Agent_bobdwidmann that's not the one that makes wrong dirrectories is it ?  /etc/rc/rc2.d    like that ?12:31
Agent_bobthere was one that does work in debian stile systems   it's tweeked for redhat stile systems12:32
Agent_bobs/does/doesn't/12:32
eloagentbob to use the script do i save it as a file and then chmod x ?12:33
eloi am not familiar with bash scripts at all12:33
Agent_bobelo or just call it with   sh filename12:33
elook cool12:33
Agent_bobummm also if one uses the "download as text" from pastebin they get M$ markup added to the unix style file    in which case run   dos2unix filename12:34
Agent_bobor is it redirrect that...?    dos2unix filename > new_filename12:35
Agent_bobi can't remember   if the first dumps the file to stdout  then redir it :)12:35
eloi just copied from the edit box below12:35
eloand did: pico net12:35
eloand then saved it and then sh net12:35
eloi know i'm an ubernoob, forgive me12:36
Agent_bobok.    and still you may want to sudo it.12:36
elosudo sh net?12:36
Agent_bobyeah12:36
elohehe cant open net12:36
elomy mistake12:37
elowrong desktop12:37
Agent_bobsee some information is not readily avalable to normal users.    that's just part of the way linux is designed to protect itself from .*12:37
Agent_bobok.  i'm out for a while.    if no one else has a cli based Q for me.12:38
ghostcubehi there people12:46
ghostcubequestion in kde 4 is there still no kcontrol ?12:46
ghostcubecause systemsettings is very worse12:47
ghostcube:|12:47
tim_hi, alt + f2 isn't workiung anymore, nothing happens and befor the window didn't appear in the front but behind all other windows12:52
ghostcubeanyone alive :)13:00
tim_how do i get alt+f2 working again if nothing happens13:05
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KuMeQ: Does anyone know how to let firestarter autostart @ startup13:34
ubuntu_hello13:37
ubuntu_o13:37
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brandon_flaccid: I tried to change xorog.conf to look like that, but it is still not located under /dev/js13:39
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josai can only use tty shells, any advice how to start X11 or something like that13:40
josaor how to google for solutions from shell, ie a cli browser13:41
FalstaffWhat program can I get to dial the phone through the modem?13:43
uncleanafter i install KDE4 from KDE3 how do I get rd of my old KDE3?13:44
uncleanrid*13:44
macic_how do I install widgets? I mean the 'download from internet' doesn't seem to work13:49
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alphaI'm having a problem getting my combo drive to work correctly in kubuntu, can anyone help?13:58
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icelabhi14:35
icelabi have a question to solve14:35
icelabk3b don't allow me to decode in mp3 file amy cd audio14:36
icelabsorry of my cd audio14:36
lziebahi everybody! :P14:39
icelabubottu can k3b rip cd audio in mp3 file?14:39
ubottuicelab: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:39
icelabhi izieba14:39
icelabnobody use k3b to convert audio cd in mp3 file?14:44
Githzeraiicelab: Still here? libk3b2-extracodecs14:53
revolutionizei have a probem & hope that someone can help me out.  everytime i put avi file to a disk the sound is all messed up can someone help me out???14:55
amigravelately, my system became slower than before. Firefox was (again) slow as hell, switching tabs taking forever and even freezing the system ... Then I rebooted and selected previous kernel (2.6.24-18-generic). Everything came back to normal ! Not sure, but I wonder if nvidia's kernel module for 2.6.24-19 is broken or something.14:56
icelabthanks i was googoling to search solution14:56
revolutionize is anyone gonna help me out or what?14:57
revolutionize wtf, u ppl r tell'n me that ur NOT gonna help me out what kind of crap is that!!!14:58
revolutionize i come here to look for help and what do i get NOTH'N!!!14:58
revolutionize wtf is wrong with u ppl, why wont u help ppl in need of help like me14:59
icelabhave you tried whit the right codec?14:59
revolutionize yes14:59
danyahi all .. I need help installing icedtea-gcjwebplugin for Hardy 64bit .. I keep getting an error msg that there are unresolved dependencies ..it depends on openjdk-6-jre ..14:59
tinin"Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries"   Do you have this same error while trying to launch a kde4 app under kde3?15:00
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revolutionizeno i don't15:00
revolutionize the avi file work's fine on my computer but when i put it to a disk the sound is all messed up, can anyone help me out?15:03
revolutionize i have all the rite codes, but i don't know why the sound would be all messed up though15:03
Picirevolutionize: You can try asking in #ubuntu as well, as you aren't getting much of a response here.15:06
revolutionize pici: well i don't seem to be gett'n any help anyway since i have been try'n for the past 2 to 4 day's non stop so wtf point of try'n anywhere else!!!15:07
matissehi, where do I find the files which are saved by flash programs ?15:09
matisseim using Firefox 215:09
MastereduHello15:09
Mastereducan some one help me15:09
Masteredui have installed KDE on my ubuntu15:09
Masteredubut it lags15:09
Masteredurealy...15:09
Mastereduhard15:10
Mastereduhow can i fix???15:10
Masteredui have 2,9 ghz and 1,5 gb ram15:10
jtismeanyone know what repository  kickstart is in15:11
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amigraveMasteredu: don't know if it's related but recently I had also slow system. Then I realized that using the previous kernel : 2.6.24-18-generic everything was fast again. Don't know if you have the same problem but I think it's related to nvidia's kernel module on 2.6.24-19-generic15:18
icelabmatisse looking in the preference of firefox15:19
icelabor the plugin preference15:19
Masteredulol15:20
Masteredukubuntu15:20
Masteredulooks15:20
Masteredufucking good15:20
Mastereduomg15:20
Masteredu....15:20
Masteredui mean kde 4.1 looks ultra !!!15:20
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Mastereduor???15:23
Mastereduhow you find it15:23
Mastereduit looks like windows 9 or more...15:23
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matissenever seen it :-)15:32
Mastereduloool15:32
Mastereduthen look at my desktop xD15:33
Mastereduhttp://www.gotwig.de/pictures/bildschirm.jpeg15:33
matissenice15:33
Masteredujeah15:34
Mastereduthis is kde 415:34
icelabvery nice15:34
Masteredujeah kde 4 is very good15:34
Masteredu:)15:34
Masteredui like it15:34
Mastereduwhat you use?15:34
Masteredugnome?15:34
Mastereduor kde 315:35
sari75ciao15:37
sari75hi15:37
Black_Monkeyhi, I was played a song in amarok, and when I went to play the next song, it said "xine was unable to initialise any audio drivers"15:39
Black_Monkeys/was/just15:39
Black_Monkeyand now I can't play any sound15:40
Black_Monkeybefore, it'd been popping up a box saying that some driver wouldn't work, so it was falling back to another... with the same name - but working fine15:42
Black_Monkeyah, kubuntu-kde4 channel, nvm15:44
matisseBlack_Monkey: maybe its because another program was using the sound15:45
Black_Monkeymatisse: well, amarok had been playing a song... nothing else was using it though15:45
matisseboth the same file format ?15:46
Black_Monkeyoh, except maybe kopete message notifications... but I don't think they were playing15:46
Black_Monkeyyep15:46
Black_Monkeybut just mp3s15:46
matissewhich sound daemon are you using ?15:46
Black_MonkeyI've restarted amarok, restarted alsa15:46
Black_Monkeyerm.. is alsa the sound daemon?15:46
matisselook in kcontrol15:47
matissebut alsa is thing I wanted to know15:48
Black_Monkeywell yes, alsa15:48
matissedon't know. is it still a problem ?15:48
Black_Monkeyyes, can't play anything15:49
matissedid you tried to play the file again, is it maybe broken ?15:49
Black_Monkeytried playing the file again, and then in mplayer as well15:49
Black_Monkeytried playing other files15:49
Black_Monkeyjust gives the error about not being able to use the audio drivers - also gives that when starting amarok15:50
sari75i am really disappointed with kubuntu -.-15:50
Manyfoldwhy?15:51
sari75i think i will go back to ubuntu gee..........15:51
matisseBlack_Monkey:  google knows about the error message, read the whole article http://blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za/2007/01/06/xine_was_unable_to_initialise_any_audio_drivers.html15:51
sari75Manyfold: i have installed it just now15:51
matisseBlack_Monkey: maybe you can export or save your collections15:51
sari75and have also problem to connect via dsl15:51
sari75i was used to ubuntu15:52
Manyfoldit seems to work15:52
sari75then i bought a new laptop with vista15:52
Black_Monkeymatisse: hmm, except this is happening in other programs, not just amarok :/15:52
sari75now i have both15:52
sari75vista plus kubuntu15:52
Black_Monkeyand amarok isn't crashing, like he says - it stays open...15:52
sari75-.-15:52
sari75Manyfold: yeah but now i have to learn again everything15:53
sari75-_________-15:53
matisseBlack_Monkey: this open shell and type in     killall -s 9 amarok15:53
grassonehi15:53
matisses/this/then15:53
sari75ash15:53
Ash-FoxYes, sari75?15:53
* sari75 wants her ubuntu back right now15:54
sari75Ash-Fox: what?15:54
Ash-FoxI am not responsible for that, sari75.15:54
sari75lol15:54
Black_Monkeyhm ok, but amarok's closing normally anyway15:54
sari75Ash-Fox: could kindly help me with the dls connection?15:54
Black_Monkeyand yeah, same thing happening after doing that and re-opening :/15:54
sari75how can i manage it?15:54
matisseBlack_Monkey: maybe kill some other programs concerning with sound15:55
matisse(top oder htop are good programs for that task)15:55
sari75Ash-Fox: why it doesnt autodetect the router?15:55
Ash-Foxsari75, my DSL stuff has always worked through a router that supported ethernet and/or wireless. So if it's a USB modem thing for DSL. I'm afraid I cannot help you.15:55
sari75Ash-Fox: no no wireless15:56
Ash-Foxsari75, ethernet?15:56
gift[Mass Message] all servers are back online.15:56
gift[Mass Message] oops, wrong alias :P15:56
sari75Ash-Fox: now i am through ethernet15:56
Black_Monkeymatisse: like which programs? I'm not familiar with htop - says I don't have it15:56
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Ash-FoxIt's difficult to understand what your problem is then?15:56
sari75Ash-Fox: but would like to be wireless15:56
sari75dls15:56
sari75dsl§15:57
sari75gee15:57
matisseBlack_Monkey: then its possibly easier to restart your ubuntu but first try relogin15:57
Ash-FoxThat's not DSL related, that's wireless. Anyway, open up konsole and type 'iwconfig', does it show anything or tell you there is no adapters?15:57
Black_Monkeyhm ok, thanks15:57
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Deepthoughtsome app´s (dolphin, kdesudo, komunication etc) freeze all the time on input (mouse, typing) and take about a half minute to respond evertytime; what could be wrong ?16:04
pteague_workanybody know how to get an ati radeon set up with dual monitor via a y cable?16:05
Deepthoughtpteague_work, easiest to use ati-settings or radeontool16:06
pteague_workis that from the drivers direct from ati or in 1 of the repository packages?16:07
Deepthoughtpteague_work, if you installed propr dirvers one or both are already on your system, can´ t remember wich.  Try typing both in konsole16:08
pteague_worki've got aticonfig, atieventsd, & atigetsysteminfo.sh :(16:09
Deepthoughtpteague_work, aticonfig should be able to do it I think; you tried ?16:10
Deepthoughtpteague_work, check this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22117416:10
pteague_worki really wish they would have bought an nvidia card... *sigh*16:11
Deepthoughtpteague_work, that explains how to do it with xorg.conf, wich is a hassele, but it explains all options very well; also links that lead to the tool-howto´ s if I´ m right16:11
Deepthoughtpteague_work, I use nvidia with nvidia-settings, easy without messing with conf-files, but I know there´ s an equivalent for ati that should make it just as easy, probably radeontool; startup adept and search, should be in there16:13
Deepthoughtpteague_work, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=177354416:13
matisseWhere do I find the files which are saved by flash programs in Firefox 2 ?16:14
Deepthoughtpteague_work, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/i386/radeontool16:15
pteague_workDeepthought: yeah, i have nvidia on my box at home & it was painless...  at work somebody else bought the card & never bothered to ask & they're all windows16:17
miffedUnder system settings->system administration>paths. I changed the documents path to a folder called "docs" I have on a separate partition, I would have assumed now when I click the document tab on my toolbar that folder would would be opened but the  not the case, I have missed a step else misinterpreted the option?16:17
BraveSpearAnyone know if kde-core installs printing support by default?16:17
matisseahh, found it under /home/<user>/.macromedia/Flash_Player/16:18
Deepthoughtpteague_work, yep, radeontool is installable from adept; you should also use flgrx driver16:18
DeepthoughtBraveSpear, yep; you have to install a printer though, else you can only print to a pdf-file16:18
mastereduHello woderfull kubuntu comunity :D16:19
mastereduwonderfull ^^16:19
pteague_workalready using fglrx :)16:19
pteague_workbrb, updated kernel & made changes to xorg.conf16:19
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masteredu?16:20
masteredui have a problem16:20
masteredukde lags a little16:20
miffedcompared to ?16:21
mastereducompared?16:21
soufiane__salut16:21
mastereduenglish pls16:21
masteredu:)16:21
BraveSpearDeepthought: Thanks.. know how to remove printing support? I need to get rid of it for a LivdCD I'm creating for work.16:22
soufiane__y a t il ici un forum français16:22
masteredusorry16:22
masteredudont understand16:22
masteredu:)16:22
mastereduxD16:22
DeepthoughtBraveSpear, why bother ?16:22
BraveSpearMy management does not want the users to be able to print anything.16:22
timo!sound16:22
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP316:22
soufiane__i cherche french froum16:22
DeepthoughtBraveSpear, aha; well, you could let users log in and give them no rights to the printer, that should be easy16:23
mastereduquestion16:23
mastereduwhy my kde 4.1 lags16:23
gnummsoufiane__: il y a un forum ubuntu francais, cherches juste sur google ;)16:23
soufiane__ok16:23
masteredupls only english16:23
mastereduonly16:23
gnummi know16:24
gnummhe hadn't understand me16:24
mastereduwhy Kubuntu have kde 3? ^^16:24
Deepthoughtmasteredu, does it lag on everything or just kdesudo and other kde3 stuff ?16:24
BraveSpearDeepthought: Thats a good idea, but my boss doesn't want the users to even think they can try to print.  Removing all references to printers/printing is what they want.16:24
masteredu?16:24
mastereduit lags16:24
mastereduwhen i will switch the desktop16:25
masteredufolder on my desktop16:25
mastereduetc.16:25
masteredui have kde 4 not kde 316:25
frybyeHi - Using kde3 the k-menu has -lost- the entry for this programme (Konversation-) I can only start it by using Dolphin to got to /usr/Bin and double-clicking the konversation script.. what do i hvae to do to get it back in the K-menu??16:25
DeepthoughtBraveSpear, hm...  you could compile a kernel without support for the printerport, that would be wicked ;-), but the printer´ s probably on a network, right ?16:26
miffedright click kmenu and select menu editor and add it from there at a guess16:26
mastereducan someone help me16:27
ScorpKingmy usb flash drive keeps on disconnecting but only on this box. here is the output of dmesg - http://paste.ubuntu.com/35107/ - any idea what might be wrong? all my flash drive does the same16:27
DeepthoughtBraveSpear, remove package cups, and the other print-stuff that I forgot the names of; search in adept on the word print, see what packages you run into and try removing them ? (careful !)16:27
frybyemiffed: right i figured that myself but it wants a load of Input i dont know about? 1 - command? 2- working directory?16:27
masteredupls help me16:28
masteredui have 1 ,5 gb ram and 2.9 ghz16:28
BraveSpearDeepthought: No, these will be work at home users, connecting to our network through VPN and Citrix.  I have created the LiveCD based on kubuntu with kde-core (kde 3.5), and have disabled automounting of the users HDD and external storage (I hope it works that way, anyway).  My boss only wants them to be able to access Citrix via Firefox web browser and VPN via whatever means I can.16:28
frybyeI sort of assume the command would be /usr/bin/konversation or...? and which dir is the "working directory?" - (I have the German lang. Kubuntu here - am a Brit in berlin...)16:28
miffedwell i guess the command is Konversation and the working dir is the path to the konq script u mentioned16:29
Deepthoughtfrybye, click right on menubutton and start menu-config (I don´ t know exact name in english), then you can make a new link16:29
timohow can I add (a link to) a script to Favorites in K-Menu?16:29
frybyeDeep - we have already got that far pal...16:30
timocuz Favorites doesn't show up in the menu editor16:30
DeepthoughtBraveSpear, well, sorry, then I´m out of ideas, I´ m not familiar with that sort of stuff...16:30
BraveSpearDeepthought: I thought it might be that easy.  Probably just removing cups would work.  I just didn't know if KDE had some extra printing options that I was not aware of.  You've been a help.16:31
ScorpKingBraveSpear: care to explain you problem again to me? i didn't see your first question16:32
DeepthoughtBraveSpear, I believe there´ s another simpler system as wel, gutenprint springs to mind right now16:32
type_o how can someone convert avi to mpeg?16:32
Deepthoughttype_o, avi is usually already mpeg; but you probably mean the type on a dvd ie VOB ?16:33
type_o rite16:33
ScorpKingtype_o: ffmpeg can do that for you16:34
BraveSpearScorpKing: I was just trying to find out how to remove printing support for my livecd I am creating.  You were a great help to me yesterday, btw.  Thank you very much.16:34
type_o cuz i did install DVD Author Wizard & it does ask for a mpeg video file but i don't know how to convert avi to mpeg though16:34
type_o i'm new with linux & only have used linux for about 3 day's i know very little here & there but NOT enough to get by16:35
ScorpKingBraveSpear: anytime. uhm.. i also think removing cups will help. another way might be to just deny all printing16:36
BraveSpeartype_o: welcome to Linux.. you were probably the same way with Windows when you first started.  Don't worry, you'll pick it up soon enough.16:36
frybyemiffed: ok thanks pal - I have not quite got it in the right part of the menu (Internet) but it is ok where it is - right at the top... heheh16:37
BraveSpearScorpKing: Thats what I was thinking.  I just didn't know if kde had some extra printing subsytems installed that I wasn't aware of.  I've been using Linux for a couple of years but I still have a lot to learn.16:37
type_o yeah i already did install a few thing's here & there i know linux is lot more complexed than window's but since i like use'n linux i think i'm gonna stay use'n linux but there r something's that i don't know how to do like converting avi to mpeg, converting avi to dvd thing's like that, so can anyone help me out???16:38
frybyeI have a new ? - I tried to install some market-search proggy for linux from a rpm with alien and there were a load of fault reports - ie that amd64 system not supported (which I have-) it still produced a folder on the desktop which will not let me send it to the trashcan.. how can I do that - it says "access denied"16:39
type_o yeah i already did install a few thing's here & there i know linux is lot more complexed than window's but since i like use'n linux i think i'm gonna stay use'n linux but there r something's that i don't know how to do like converting avi to mpeg, converting avi to dvd thing's like that, so can anyone help me out???16:39
frybyeI tried in a terminal with sudo rm foldername but then it just says - cant do that cos it is a folder...16:39
ScorpKingBraveSpear: same here and i'm still learning every day. i guess it will never stop. ;) i'm pretty sure there are some other kde printing packages. i think figuring out how to disable everything will be a lot better. for egsample, there is also print to pdf16:40
timofrybye: use rm -rf16:40
timosudo rm -rf ....16:40
type_o  how can i put avi to dvd???16:40
frybyetks timo...16:40
timofrybye: yw16:40
Jonyhi, i cant get any usb device to work, is anyone intrested in helping me?16:40
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timoJony: did you update your system? what version are you using?16:41
BraveSpeartype_o: try here: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-create-video-dvds.html16:41
frybyeyeahhh! gone gone gone.. heheh16:42
timogood :)16:42
timo-r means recursive, -f means delete folder16:42
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Jonytime: latest i guess can i PM u log from dmesg | grep -i hci that might help solve the problem?16:42
frybyea bug*er that this proggy cant be used though - it is real usefull - I do have it on another box running the "enemy-empires' os" but that is a bummer... heheh16:43
miffedtimo: I never use the -f just -r and yet the folder still gets deleted16:43
timomiffed: ok, thanks, that's interesting :)16:43
sebastian__how do i unlock the package manager thing so i can open it? cause it crashed16:44
frybyetimo: miffed -r = recursive or...?16:44
timoJony: you can do that, but I am quite new to Kubuntu as well, so I'm not sure if I can help you16:44
miffedyeh recursive16:44
bazhang!aptfix16:44
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »16:44
frybyeok - I was on a linux course a couple of weeks ago - but my old brain/memory is as addeled as can be ... heheh16:45
frybyec u folks in a bit - bye now and tks...16:46
sebastian__thx16:46
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ScorpKingfrybye: man pages and reading online is the best course you'll get. ;)16:46
BraveSpearScorpKing: Do you know anything about customization files for Firefox?16:46
ScorpKingBraveSpear: not really but being open source it should be easy to figure out :)16:47
BraveSpearScorpKing: I need to have Firefox as the default browser on my livecd, and any links I place on the desktop open up automatically in firefox, not konqueror as it is doing now.16:48
BraveSpearScorpKing: I don't know of any way to remove Konqueror without kde getting all hosed up.16:49
ScorpKingBraveSpear: that will be part of the kde config. it might be in .kde/share/config/16:49
ScorpKingBraveSpear: if you ever give me a cd without konq i might be upset ;)16:50
FalstaffIs there an easy to install modem program ...??16:50
FalstaffIs there an easy to install modem?16:50
ScorpKingFalstaff: i use wvdial. what do you need to do?16:50
ScorpKingFalstaff: ah, sudo wvdialconf16:51
mastereducan someone help me16:51
masteredumy kde lags a little16:51
ScorpKingFalstaff: it will create /etc/wvdial.conf that you can edit and the just run sudo wvdial and you should be online16:51
Seregahi there16:51
mastereduhey16:51
masteredu:(16:51
mastereduwhy no one help16:51
Seregacan I ask here about intrepid?16:51
Seregamasteredu: hey16:52
Seregawhat's up?16:52
BraveSpearScorpKing: I'll make sure to leave konqueror in for any cd's I give you lol16:52
bazhang!ibex16:52
ubottuAlpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!16:52
FalstaffScorpKIng I will give it a try ...16:52
bazhangSerega, in #ubuntu+116:52
masteredugive it a German Kubuntu chanelß16:52
Seregaugh, yep, thanks!16:52
BraveSpearmasteredu: kde lagging could be from a lot of different scenarios.  what type of computer are you running on?16:53
ScorpKingBraveSpear: hehe.. what i useually do is create a new user, change the things i want and the see what config files was recently edited.16:53
Seregamasteredu: how can I help you?16:53
Jonycan anyone help me out, i cant get a single usb device to connect.16:54
mastereduserega , i will ask in german help maybe they can help me16:54
mastereduthey dont answer :(16:55
FalstaffScorpKing I tried it and it can't find my modem ... I assume I need a modem driver ...16:56
mastereducan some one help me??16:56
ScorpKingJony: i have the same problem16:56
ScorpKingFalstaff: most likely yes. look at www.linmodems.org16:56
miffedJony: I guess a good starting point would be are the devices showing up when you type lsusb in terminal? and specifically what devices you tring to connect16:56
miffedbtw p mst nobie user on plant so take my advice with pinch of salt16:57
miffed:/16:57
BraveSpearScorpKing: trying to find the .kde/share/config folder.. is that in the /home folder?17:00
ScorpKingBraveSpear: another place default setting are kept is in /etc/defaults/ btw17:00
ScorpKingyes17:00
mastereduhelp me plsss17:00
Seregamasteredu: don't ask for "help", just ask17:02
ScorpKingBraveSpear: /home/<user>/.kde/shar......17:03
masteredui have allready ask how can i fix it that kde dont lag17:03
BraveSpearScorpKing: ahh.. apt-get remove --purge cupsys  appears to work well17:03
miffedmasteredu: upgrade hardware?17:03
ScorpKingBraveSpear: lovely. why don't you want printing anyways?17:03
masteredumiffed how you mean17:05
masteredui have 1,5 gb ram and 2,9 ghz17:05
Seregamasteredu: what exactly lag?17:05
pteague_workok, i'm finally getting 2 different x sessions in the 2 different monitors... although i'd prefer twinview (boo ati)...  the problem is i can't seem to get the screens to do anything larger than 1024x768 & i know they'll do 1280x102417:05
BraveSpearCorporate policy for the organization I support.  Has to do with PCI compliance (PCI = payment card industry, eg Visa, amex, etc).. no ability for credit card information to be reproduced when the user has access to it -- can't print it, save it, etc..17:06
mastereduit dont go sofort17:07
faileasBraveSpear: you'd want to remove printscreen as well ;p17:07
sebastian__has anyone here use a hex editor ?17:07
sebastian__used17:07
mastereduwith the mouse when i change the location17:07
miffedBraveSpear: how do you prevent screenshot with digicam?17:07
pteague_worknm, think i got 'em17:07
miffedor mobile phone cam17:07
BraveSpearfaileas: Sssh.. my boss might hear you and want me to remove that as well :D17:08
faileasBraveSpear: remove what? <halo>17:08
ScorpKingBraveSpear: there are hundreds of ways to save info like that. anly disableling printing will not work17:08
jtismesebastian__, i use vim for hex editing17:09
sebastian__can u help me with just 1 thing?17:10
ScorpKingjtisme: hex editing? is the a way to make it display the binary or asm code?17:10
jtismesebastian__, sure if i can17:10
sebastian__it says i have to search for, 0x130BB5 bit, and change the value 75 to 74, how can i do that?17:10
sebastian__i dont even know where the value is17:10
jtismeScorpKing, yes17:11
jtismesebastian__, what gave you that message17:11
BraveSpearScorpingKing, all: I know that and my boss knows that.. its part of due diligence and PCI compliance... mitigating the risk the "rogue" employee may bring to the organization.. if a case goes to court, the company could say "We did everything we could do to prevent this."  It won't stop an employee from writing the cc# down, taking pics of the screen with a cam, etc.. but I did what I could.17:11
sebastian__its for a game :p17:11
FalstaffScorpKing my idea is to get a modem and install it ... any ideas about what is best how about an external serial port one??17:13
BraveSpearScorpKing: and disabling printing will be a major part. Most users won't know how to use print screen, etc.17:13
jtismesebastian__, looks like they are saying the  1248181  bit in the program needs to be changed but one bit would not be > 1 so they may mean byte17:14
BraveSpearHere in our call center, we hire a lot of bottom-feeders.. lowest common denominator sort.17:14
ScorpKingFalstaff: i bought an internal modem a while ago that had linux drivers on the cd but i can't remember what make or model it was. all i know is that you defenately get them. google it17:14
BraveSpearie: not the brightest fish in the barrell ;)17:14
miffedhmm I wonder if it possible to have some program running which could obscure a screenshot with analogue or digitla camaera but be invisable to naked eye17:15
sebastian__ok thx jtisme17:15
FalstaffScorpking thanks!17:15
jtismesebastian__, need clarification as to bit or byte17:15
ScorpKingBraveSpear: does removing cups also remove pdf printing?17:15
sebastian__it says bit17:15
miffedI got pat pending :)17:15
jtismesebastian__, ok hold on a sec17:15
ScorpKingBraveSpear: you might also want to check that ksnapshot is not installed17:16
sebastian__ok17:16
jtismesebastian__, a bit value is either 0 or 1  you would have to have at least 7 bits to have the value 74 or 7517:17
sebastian__and what does that mean? :P17:18
BraveSpearScorpKing: Thx.. thats the kind of info I need. If I can get away with just Firefox/Citrix/VPN installed on the thing, it would be almost exactly what my boss wants.. but what my boss wants and whats possible haven't always been the same17:18
jtismesebastian__, based on  0x130BB5 it would mean a change to byte (word) 312045 in your program not easy to do but doable17:19
ScorpKingBraveSpear: haha.. if i think of anything else i'll let you know17:19
jtismesebastian__, using vim hex mode you would have to find the 312045th word17:20
jtismesebastian__,  and change that word17:20
sebastian__but u can search17:20
jtismesebastian__, yes you can search but the value 74 could exist in a lot of other places besides the 312045th word in the binary file17:21
sebastian__the value is 75 and im supposed to change it to 7417:21
jtismesebastian__, do you know about the split command?17:21
sebastian__hehe no17:22
BraveSpearScorpKing: You know anything about KVPNC? I'm running vpnc from a desktop icon that opens a terminal window for users to put in their login info, but doesn't have any visual means of user verifying that vpn is connected or disconnected. they only thing i've found is kvpnc, but I can't figure out how to configure it from within a chrooted environment17:22
jtismesebastian__, oh boy, are you new to linux?17:22
BraveSpearis there a way to run these apps from with chroot? maybe redirect to a display? hmmm...17:22
ScorpKingBraveSpear: sorry i don't know much about it. did you take a look at vnc server?17:23
sebastian__i had it about 6 months, but im new to ubuntu :P17:23
BraveSpearif so, that would make my job a hella lot easier.17:23
sebastian__but im not goot and commands, cause i dont even know where to look to learn them17:23
sebastian__good*17:23
ScorpKingsebastian__: man <command>17:24
jtismesebastian__, what is the name of the game and how large is the binary file17:24
sebastian__but i dont know the command name :P17:24
BraveSpearvnc is something we're thinking about for remote controlling users. vpn is for virtual private network (secure tunnel over the internet to our network)17:24
sebastian__its 501 mb17:24
BraveSpearsebastian_: also try apropos17:25
sebastian__6.6 mb is the file17:25
ScorpKingBraveSpear: i think searching the internet for chroot might help a lot.17:25
pteague_worknope, that didn't work as planned... i still can only seem to get 1024x768 instead of 1280x102417:25
jtismesebastian__, can you hold on a minute i need to take a restroom break for about 10min17:25
sebastian__ya17:25
ScorpKingBraveSpear: the thin client setup in edubuntu use chroot btw ;)17:26
ScorpKingsebastian__: take a look at www.linuxcommand.org17:27
sebastian__thx :D17:27
BraveSpearScorpKing: I will look into that definitely.17:28
BraveSpearScorpKing: I did find something re: running an app from within a chrooted environment..17:29
BraveSpearexport DISPLAY=localhost0:017:30
BraveSpearthen I can launch apps from the command line..17:30
ScorpKingBraveSpear: awesome. have a link?17:30
BraveSpearthis could be an AWESOME help.17:30
BraveSpearScorpKing: yeah.. http://www.brianmadden.com/content/article/How-to-create-a-custom-thin-client-Knoppix-boot-CD-with-the-Citrix-ICA-client17:31
jtismesebastian__, what is the name of the game17:31
ScorpKingBraveSpear: thanks. will it not be easier to make a linux disk with only the apps you need?17:32
sebastian__jtistme: Penumbra: black plague.17:33
BraveSpearit would, but one of the requirements of the project is for the cd to boot from the most different types of pc's as possible.. knoppix has had problems booting from some of our pc's here, but I have had 100% success with this distro.17:34
ScorpKingBraveSpear: ok so for egsample. remove the desktop and all gui apps. install a very small (mostly useless) desktop system and add only the few apps that you need17:35
jtismesebastian__, i have a chemo treatment in 1 hour i will look up penumbra later this after noon and see if i can find the problem and get back to you with the solution17:36
ScorpKingBraveSpear: other than kde there are fluxbox, xfce and so on17:36
sebastian__ok thx :D17:36
ScorpKingBraveSpear: i have to go away for a while but i'll be back later17:37
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bazhang!es17:42
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.17:42
Freddy2hi17:47
Freddy2following a few web sites i've seen that you need sun-java6-plugin for firefox3, but i can't see this at repos.. any extra apt source needed?17:48
Freddy2neither anything related to java web start (javaws)17:48
Freddy2(i'm on hardy)17:48
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miffedI install kubuntu restricted extras that install the java support for ff as far as I know17:52
Freddy2hmm it seems there's a "problem" with 64 bits systems..17:53
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Heinz-L-Mannhey18:15
tsuna27why should I use linux18:16
tsuna27join #ubuntu18:17
Heinz-L-Mannbecause its fun!18:17
tsuna27anything else18:17
BraveSpeartaun27: its free, less resource intensive (typically), more customizable...18:17
Heinz-L-Mannmore secure18:18
Heinz-L-Mannand fun ;)18:18
BraveSpearhilarity ensues18:19
ScorpKingBraveSpear, Heinz-L-Mann: if anyone ask you that question again tell them to watch Revolution OS ;)18:24
Heinz-L-Mannlol18:25
BraveSpearI haven't seen that yet.18:25
ScorpKingBraveSpear: it's a must see if you use linux18:26
miffedNot even seen revolution 0118:26
BraveSpearknow where i can watch it? is it on youtube?18:27
miffedgah its a S not a 5 damn screen too far away18:27
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pgibHey - is there some way to remove all kde3 pacakges where a kde4 package is already installed?? Or is this a manual one-by-one ordeal?18:28
pteague_work!numlock18:30
ubottuTo enable Number Lock by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock18:30
roldyxhello.. I have a own-kernel.. and when I boot lvms appears INACTIVE and they arent mounted..18:30
frybyeBraveSpear: the film has a trailer that can be accessed via the wickipeia entry.. --> google---18:31
roldyxbut if I execute /etc/init.d/udev restart.. all LVMs put ACTIVE.. why?18:31
pgibanyone know how to remove kde 3?? I guess that is really what I'm looking for18:32
Heinz-L-Manncheck the wiki ...18:32
Heinz-L-Mannits not that hard at all18:33
ActionParsniphey all18:33
ActionParsnipqq18:33
Heinz-L-Mannhey18:33
ActionParsnipI use fluxbox, if i uninstall kwin will I still get a desktop if I reboot?18:33
ActionParsnipi use kde apps in fluxbox and i'm trying to skim my system down18:33
pgibHeinz-L-Mann: searched wiki for delete kde,  remove kde, and uninstall kde.  no results18:34
Heinz-L-Mannhmm18:35
Heinz-L-Manni would first install kde4 and then uninstall kde318:35
Heinz-L-Mannyou aren't german are you ?18:35
pgibYeah, I already installed kde418:35
Heinz-L-Mannhmm i know there is a tut in the german wiki.. but its offline atm..18:35
pgibI'm just looking to uninstall kde3 - but can't figure out how without possibly uninstalling kde4 as well18:35
pgibNo, I'm not German18:36
miffedI tried the kubuntu kde4 distro when first released and to be honest hated the desktop and menu system  prob changed a lot since then18:37
Heinz-L-Mannhmm18:37
Heinz-L-Manni would translate it for you but as i said there is a gateway prob atm18:37
brandon_flaccid: R U there?18:37
pgibmiffed: yes kde4.1 is quite different18:39
pgibok -  so I guess the moral of the story is, I need to have them side-by-side for now18:39
Heinz-L-Mannsorry got to go18:39
pgibI guess I will just manuall uninstall the hundred or so packages18:39
Heinz-L-Mannadd me in jabber and ill help ya in two hours ;)18:39
Heinz-L-Mannernesto@jabber.ccc.de18:39
drabinahi all, has kubuntu based on kde 3.5 long term support?18:46
Schorfino18:47
pteague_workhttp://pastebin.com/d77fd4f & i'm still getting 1024x768... although in Monitor & Display it's allowing me to select 2048x768... why i don't know as this monitor's max is 1280x102418:47
mizipzorno matter how many virtual desktops i set, it always displays two18:51
mizipzor... i rightclick the virtual desktop panel to change the number of desktops18:53
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mustang62Господа Всем привет18:57
mustang62никто не подскажет как запустить CDrom в ubuntu на ноуте Prestigio18:59
ScorpKing!ru | mustang6219:02
ubottumustang62: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke19:02
Taggnostrhello19:04
ScorpKingmustang62: спросить в #ubuntu-ru Возможно, они могут понять19:05
Taggnostri was editing /etc/groups and now i'm not part of the admin group anymore, and sudo doesn't recognize me anymore, is there a way to fix it without reboot and fix it from the root shell?19:06
ScorpKingTaggnostr: if you are root now yes19:07
ScorpKingTaggnostr: adduser <youruser> admin19:08
Taggnostrno, i logged off after the edit and now i logged in again with my normal user19:08
Taggnostrif there's no way to do it, how can i reboot in the root shell ?19:17
Schorfi_Taggnostr: reboot19:23
Taggnostris there some key to press while it's loading to access some menu?19:24
Taggnostrand will it ask me some password to access the root shell?19:25
madagascar#Leo4All19:26
duesentreibhallo19:27
duesentreibhello?19:28
miffedI got 3 desktops scattered throughout my home, if I copy over .mozilla folder to each desktop after a clean install would that give me all my favourites and extensions on all desktops, is there any problems with this method?19:34
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Taggnostrmiffed, on the mozilla site there are tutorials for that19:35
miffedbeyonfd what I have just described?19:36
Taggnostrbackup the profile should be enough, the extensions are saved there, the favorites and passwords as well19:36
miffedis it not that simple?19:36
Taggnostrcopying the whole .mozilla dir could include other settings that you don't want or that are related to your machine only19:37
Taggnostris better to install a new ff and import the old profile19:37
pteague_worki can get 1280x1024 using the radeon driver, but i can't get it to do dual monitor...  or i can get dual monitor to work using the fglrx driver, but then i'm stuck with 1024x768 as max resolution - yuck19:38
miffedTaggnostr: I need this to occur automatically and be synced every minute if possible to keep consitency, all desktops are kubuntu and have the same layoout and user name password19:39
Taggnostri know there's a way to have the linux and window profile synced, doing it with only linuxs should be even easier19:40
Taggnostrtry to ask on #firefox@irc.mozilla.org19:41
miffedk thnx will do , everything seems to be working ok just need to be sure i am not setting meself up for a fall in the future19:41
ubuntu__bonsoir a tous19:48
NumberIhello19:51
NumberItorrent don't work19:55
NumberIazures says: NAT - Connection to 79.120.41.19:62000 (your computer) refused.19:56
NumberIand that about all ports19:56
NumberIwhere can i find firewall and repair it?19:57
justs0mewhere do i find shutdown log messages?19:58
SeregaNumberI: by default no firewalled ports in ubuntu, afaik19:58
SeregaNumberI: maybe it is your ISP-related issue19:59
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NumberIhere was mandriva linux before20:01
Seregajusts0me: should be in /var/log/syslog20:01
NumberIand there are no problems with torrent20:02
NumberI*were20:02
jussi01!firewall20:03
ubottuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).20:03
SeregaNumberI: try "sudo iptables -L"20:03
Seregathis will show you all firewall rules20:04
Seregaand default policies20:04
Serega(should be all ACCEPT)20:04
NumberIChain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)20:04
NumberItarget     prot opt source               destination20:04
Seregayep20:04
NumberIChain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)20:05
NumberItarget     prot opt source               destination20:05
Seregawhat torrent client?20:05
NumberIazures,ktorrent20:05
NumberIChain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)20:05
NumberItarget     prot opt source               destination20:05
jussi01!paste20:05
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)20:05
Seregayup, thanks jussi0120:06
jussi01:)20:06
NumberIany ideas?20:06
monk3yHello, Anyone know how do i mount an .IMG file ? Thanks20:07
SeregaNumberI: try UPnp20:07
Serega*UPnP20:07
Seregamonk3y: img from MacOSX ?20:07
NumberIyes, i tryed this, as plugin for ktorrent or azures20:08
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SeregaNumberI: does it work?20:08
monk3ymm?20:08
monk3yIt's Fallout 2.img if that makes it any clearier20:08
Seregamonkey: what actually is your .IMG file?20:08
Seregaah, ok20:09
Seregalet's consider it usual ISO image...20:09
NumberIno, that problem again "NAT Îøèáêà - Connection to 79.120.41.19:59210 (your computer) refused."20:09
Seregamonk3y: sudo mount -oloop fallout_best_rpg.img /path/to/mountpoint20:10
monk3yThanks mate! ill give it a shot20:11
Seregamonk3y: :)20:11
SeregaNumberI: where do you get this message?20:11
monk3yumm, it said this:20:13
monk3yhttp://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot14fb8.png20:13
NumberInat/firewall test in azures20:14
Seregamonk3y: slash the space in the mountpoint ("Fallout\ 2")20:15
Seregaor it is considered as an extra argument20:15
monk3yoh ok20:15
monk3ythanks again :)20:15
Sereganp :)20:15
monk3yI think i failed again lol20:17
monk3ymonk3y@Masiina:~$ sudo mount -o loop Fallout_2.img /Home/Monk3y/Fallout\ 220:17
monk3yFallout_2.img: No such file or directory20:18
SeregaNumberI: never used azureus :( try to play with ktorrent and UPnP. Or you can test an incoming connection in some other way20:18
SeregaNumberI: e.g. by running FTP, or etc20:19
NumberIi used ktorrent and there were  this problem20:19
Seregamonk3y: hmmm... looks like there is no Fallout_2.img =)20:20
Seregadid you use TAB key for fiel name completion?20:20
NumberIand as i say, in mandriva all was ok20:20
lascarhow do I enable bluetooth support?20:21
monk3ySerega: http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot15jb7.png20:22
Seregalascar: sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth start20:22
SeregaNumberI: look at the "netstat -ln"20:24
Seregais your torrent client present here?20:24
lascarSerega: do I have to run that each boot?20:24
lascarserega: what's the point of kbluetoothd?20:24
Seregalascar: actually this service should be run by default20:24
Seregalascar: I guess it should serve incoming bluetooth events on the high level20:25
lascarserega: so there's no need to install obex?20:26
Seregalascar: nope, it should be all set afaik20:27
jdhelp20:27
jdhelp20:27
jdneed driver sis 67120:27
Seregamonk3y: hey, learn the commandline!)20:27
lascarserega: ok, thanx.20:27
Seregayou are performing that command in the your home folder20:27
monk3ySerega: ok =P im pretty new with linux, always used the eezmod windows20:28
Seregamonk3y: type "cd Fall"20:28
Seregaand press TAB key20:29
* Serega waits or "wow, what a magic!"20:29
Serega:)20:29
jdhelp help20:29
* lascar chuckles20:30
Seregajd: do not flood, just ask20:30
jdок20:30
Seregagood :)20:31
Seregawhat's up?20:31
NumberIno20:32
R0b0t1Would anyone here happen to know the bash command/script that outputs the users hardware and all of that information?20:33
R0b0t1Goes something like /exec -o uname ....?20:33
SeregaR0b0t1: lspci20:34
R0b0t1Hmm, that works, except the one I remember printed out more compact information :-D20:35
Seregauname -a20:35
Serega?20:35
BluesKajHiyas20:36
NumberIthere aren't20:36
NumberI*there isn't20:36
SeregaNumberI: what did you search there?20:40
Seregathere should  be the port, not the program name20:40
Seregaand a torrent client must run at the moment20:41
srednahi20:42
srednahow can i make aptitude ignore the build in brokenness?20:42
srednait fails upgrading because a packate have unmet dependencies (konqueror-plugins)20:42
Heinz-L-Mannthe build in brokenness?20:44
Seregastrange for hardy20:45
Seregasredna: you should fix this situation via dpkg --remove20:45
NumberIyes, i see port number20:47
NumberItcp6       0      0 :::59210                :::*                    LISTEN20:47
SeregaNumberI: I could try to connect to you via telnet20:48
NumberIwhy?20:48
Seregato test can I reach this port on your IP from the outside, and the we'll look at syslog20:49
NumberIok, what should i do?20:50
SeregaNumberI: connection refused :)20:50
SeregaNumberI: dmesg | tail20:50
SeregaNumberI: and use pastebin, do not flood here :)20:51
bry3n#ubuntu-fr20:52
NumberIhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/35192/20:53
SeregaNumberI: looks like I can't help you with this, sorry20:58
Seregathe log contains no info about any network operations20:59
NumberImb something with iptables?20:59
njt88sorry if i'm in the wrong place:please direct me where i should be if so. I'm a newbie, trying to connect my feisty pc to my tv via s-video, but there is nothing showing on my tv. i haven't messed with any drivers or nvidia settings yet. can anyone help?21:00
Sereganjt88: why do you use so ancient release?21:01
njt88if it ain't broke, don't fix it!21:01
ere4si!nvidia21:02
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto21:02
miffednjt88: I have used fx5200 nvidiia s-video to tv-out with no problems worked out the box21:02
Seregawrong for linux, imho21:02
miffedI only use TV dont have a monitor :/21:02
gokturk#21:03
gokturk#ubuntu-tr21:03
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Guest73432#pardus21:04
Guest73432#pardusgeyik21:04
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njt88which channel on my tv should the picture be on? SVHS?21:04
miffedyep on mine svhs gives colour picture21:05
miffedI use a s-video to scart adaptor21:05
miffedAV gives me a black n white picture21:06
njt88that's what I have too...but there is nothing. do I need to change my drivers do you think?21:06
miffedmine works out the box since breezy without any changes at all,21:07
miffedI dont have a vga connected at all and installed through TV21:07
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NumberIÑåðåãà? à íà ðóññêîì?21:09
eagles0513875NumberI: what language u after21:09
njt88well, i have my monitor connected by VGA, and an S-video to tv. do you think then that it might be some nvidia settings that I need to change so that it recognises the tv?21:09
miffedif you have VGA attached I would disconnect cable and try with s-video only after a restart21:10
miffedd u want twin monitrs or nly TV?21:10
NumberIwhat u can say about iptables? can it refuse ports?21:10
miffeddo you want to run on VGA and TV or just TV?21:11
njt88i just want to be able to watch movies on my tv - it's ok with me if they show on both monitor and tv at the same time21:11
njt88I want to be able to have both VGA and TV connected at the same time. don't care if I have to switch, or if they both show images at the same time21:12
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miffedif I attach a VGA to my PC it then mirrors what I have on TV21:13
njt88that is what I would like, if possible21:13
miffedThis worked for me without making any changes at all, it does not even require the nvidia drivers21:13
nessunohi21:14
njt88ok, well I'll try taking out the VGA and seeing if I can get the image on my TV, then plug the VGA back in21:14
miffedyup make sure reboot thugh it should show up on yur TV21:15
miffedwhat card u got ?21:15
njt88ok, well I'll try it21:15
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njt88nvidia g forse 6600 i think21:17
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barbaro#cultura21:21
barbarosorry21:22
miffednjt88: when you restart PC with s-video you should at least see your BIOS screen21:23
miffedso the OS does not really come into to it to start with21:24
njt88ok, thanks. do you mean on my tv?21:24
miffedyup21:24
miffedthen at the least you know your cable and Tv are workin fine21:24
njt88ok, thanks that's great advice. I'll try that as the first step21:25
miffednp only just realised it meself :P21:26
njt88ok, well thanks for all you help miffed. appreciate it21:27
miffedno worries hope it helps21:27
njt88me too!!21:27
matissehi, there is a package called kompare-kde4. Is there an alternative for kde3 ?21:29
matisseactually I'm searching a good diff tool21:30
matisse(graphical)21:30
matisse!diff21:30
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about diff21:30
Daisuke-Laptop!kompare21:30
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kompare21:30
traqnhi to all21:31
traqni need some help21:31
traqnfirst sorry about my english21:31
matissestart explaining...21:31
traqni just installed ubuntu21:31
traqnwith beryl21:32
matisseIN ONE LINE21:32
leneahey everyone. could you please tell me what to use in order to play .rmvb files in kubuntu?21:32
traqnbut have some errors21:32
engineer!enter21:32
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!21:32
traqnsomething with aqurine21:32
matissetraqn: stop21:32
traqnok21:32
matissetraqn: read !enter21:32
matisse!enter21:32
engineerdamn bulgarians21:32
traqnsorry21:33
Freddy2lenea: maybe.. real player?21:33
miffedI install kubuntu restricted all the ugly plugins and somewhere along the way it install support for realplayer21:34
Freddy2maybe mplayer too21:34
barbarohi,,,,,somebody talk italian21:34
leneaFreddy2 : well real player doesn't show up in adept list. with mplayer i couldn't get them to play, i don't know why21:34
movizbonsoir21:35
engineer!it21:35
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!21:35
matissetraqn: still typing ? :-)21:35
traqnno21:36
traqni stopped21:36
barbarograzie te21:36
movizwhy dont you spek french21:36
kekkowhat's the easiest to install email server (just to send test mail from php..)?21:36
matissetraqn: explain your problem in 1-2 lines21:36
jslinformaticaoi21:36
movizfuck it21:36
movizporn-w.org21:36
Freddy2lenea: only avaible in 32-bit systems21:36
engineerkekko apt-cache search php mail21:36
movizlol21:37
Daisuke-Laptopbecause this isn't the french channel21:37
leneaFreddy2 : well i am 32-bit21:37
jslinformaticaoi21:37
movizah ok21:37
Daisuke-Laptop!fr | moviz21:37
ubottumoviz: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr21:37
traqn1 my beryl don't start with the OS and somethimes (after 10 min.) gives me an error something with aquarineo , this is my first linux21:38
miffed!sendmail21:38
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about sendmail21:38
movizporn-w.rg21:38
movizprg21:38
movizorg21:38
njt88<miffed> thanks very much - it worked straight out of the box, as you said it would. really appreciate your help - i was overthinking things!21:39
Freddy2lenea: you can also check the binary file at real player's website http://www.real.com/realcom/R?href=http://forms.real.com/real/player/download.html?f=unix/RealPlayer11GOLD.bin21:39
leneaFreddy2 : thanks, i'll check it out now21:39
matissetraqn: you should give the exact error message21:39
traqnok21:40
matissecould be helpful21:40
traqnprivate matisse?21:40
traqnchat21:40
miffednjt88: np thnx for letting me know it worked21:40
njt88now worries mate. all the best21:40
miffedyou can tweak ure xorg.conf to make it look better now :)21:41
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awrycan anyone help me confirm a bug in kfontview-1.1 (kde4.1)?21:45
awrythe otf files downloaded from here http://www.cthulhulives.org/toybox/PROPDOCS/FreeFonts.html21:46
awryare not rendered by kfontview in kde-4.1 (just shows a blank window)21:46
Seregaawry: I am21:46
awrythough they open normally in kfontview in 3.5.921:47
Seregabut I'm not sure it is for #kubuntu channel21:47
awrySerega: why not?  it could be a bug in the kde-4.1 packages21:47
awrySerega: where else should i ask?21:48
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Seregaat #kubuntu-devel I guess, but let's stay here21:49
awryok21:49
* Serega is reproducing21:50
* awry wonders if it's all opentype fonts, or just these?21:50
* awry is beginning to suspect it is *all* fonts21:53
* jhutchins_wk has wasted many hours on fonts, going right back to hand set lead type.21:53
Seregaawry: it works for me: KDE4.1, kfontview 1.1, kubuntu intrepid21:53
Daisuke-Laptopjhutchins_wk: that's the only way to go.  two cases of lead slugs.21:53
SeregaI have tried several fonts from the archive21:54
awrySerega: that's interesting... i've now tried some ttfs and i get the same result21:54
awryi'm running hardy, but the kde4 pkgs are the same, no?21:54
Seregano21:54
Seregaall intrepid packages do not have -kde4 suffix21:55
Seregaand maybe something else21:55
Seregamost likely something else21:55
awryhmm21:55
awryi wonder if i'm missing some key library/package?21:55
awrykdebase-workspace-bin has all deps and suggests satisfied...21:56
leneahey everyone. can anyone please help in playing .rmvb files? i have tried vlc, mplayer. real player doesn't show up in adept and the binary isn't good either. i'm using kubuntu 8.04 with KDE4. please help. thanks21:57
awryanyone running kde-4.1 on hardy care to test my kfontview issue?21:57
awrylenea: rmvb is a realnetworks codec21:58
leneaawry : so what should i do?21:59
awryyou could try the free helix-player21:59
awrybut you might need realplayer21:59
awry(e.g. there may not be a free version of the codec)21:59
leneaawry : i will try helix(although i heard that doesn't work either), as for real player..i cannot install it21:59
awryhttp://www.real.com/linux21:59
Seregaawry: try at #kubuntu-devel21:59
BluesKaj!realplayer | lenea22:01
ubottulenea: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats22:01
RG-NewGuytrying to install mplayer on kubuntu22:13
RG-NewGuythe machine with kubuntu has no internet access22:13
Daisuke-Laptopthat could prove to be tricky22:14
RG-NewGuyis there a .zip somewhere with all the .debs required?22:14
RG-NewGuyand i mean (ALL) the debs22:14
RG-NewGuyyeah its been a real pain22:14
RG-NewGuyso far i've been dl one dependacy22:15
RG-NewGuytry again22:15
RG-NewGuythen get the other22:15
HighHoRG-NewGuy: are they not on the cd?22:15
RG-NewGuyi downloaded kubuntu from online22:15
RG-NewGuythen burned it to dvd22:15
RG-NewGuynot much came with it22:15
RG-NewGuyi'm about to delete and try again22:16
RG-NewGuyb/c somehow i lost amarok22:16
RG-NewGuyhowever when i got it i couldn't play mp3's22:16
RG-NewGuycan't watch vids22:16
RG-NewGuyso yeah, its been a lot of d/l.ing22:17
HighHoRG-NewGuy: Use the CD as your repo source and try and apt-get install mplayer - for playback of mp3's you need codecs installed22:17
HighHo!mp322:17
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats22:17
RG-NewGuyhighho, are you telling me that the 700mb cd, didn't install all its packages?22:18
nusakanHi, if anyone remembers, I was on here a little over a week ago trying to format a new external hard drive. Well, I just got the replacement and was wondering if someone could hold my hand and give me some step-by-step instructions so I don't frak it up again?22:18
BluesKajRG-NewGuy, not all packages or required codecs are included for leagal reasons22:19
BluesKajerr legal22:19
RG-NewGuyBluesKaj, with that being said that would imply they packages would not be on the cd correct?22:21
BluesKajwell, parts of packages and yes a lot of the media packages aren't total (like libdvdcss2 for playing commercial dvds etc)22:22
BluesKaj!medibuntu | RG-NewGuy22:22
ubottuRG-NewGuy: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org22:22
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rabiddachshundHow can I get ~/.kde/Autostart to execute a bash script instead of opening it in kate?22:25
ActionParsniprabiddachshund:  chmod u+x <script>22:25
RG-NewGuyBluesKaj back to my orginal problem (machine with kubuntu = no internet access)22:25
BluesKajwireless or wired ?22:26
RG-NewGuynone22:26
RG-NewGuyzero22:26
ActionParsnipRG-NewGuy: you need it to get setup ironically enough22:27
rabiddachshundactionparsnip: ty22:27
kyhi! I have a Hardy Heron (2.6.24-16) in my Laptop ASUS S200n and dont know how To adjust WIFI22:27
RG-NewGuy?22:27
BluesKajrabiddachshund, don't use autostart for a bash script , use /etc/nit.d22:27
RG-NewGuyi'm not following22:27
ActionParsniprabiddachshund: you had a text file, not a script22:28
RG-NewGuyActionParsnip, what do you mean need it to setup?22:28
rabiddachshundblueskaj: it's just to open firefox to reddit and amarok to play22:28
ActionParsnipRG-NewGuy: if you are setting up a pc and ned drivers you need internet access22:28
rabiddachshundis there a better way to do this?22:28
ActionParsnipRG-NewGuy: or is that not what you are trying to do?22:28
RG-NewGuywell there is one thing, how do i make my kubuntu detect wireless networks?22:29
ActionParsnipRG-NewGuy: is your wireless adapter installed ok?22:30
RG-NewGuyActionParsnip its a laptop22:30
RG-NewGuycame built in22:30
guaquaanyone else having trouble with dns resolving?22:30
HighHo!wifi : RG-NewGuy22:30
ubottuHighHo: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:30
guaquamine dies after i've been using the computer for some time22:30
ActionParsnipRG-NewGuy: ok but does your KUbuntu operating system talk to it?22:30
RG-NewGuyActionParsnip, umm22:31
HighHo!wifi22:31
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs22:31
RG-NewGuyActionParsnip: when i turn it on the bluetooth logo pops up22:31
ActionParsnipRG-NewGuy: ok we'll do it the easy way. What laptop do yuo have22:31
ActionParsnipRG-NewGuy: full make and model22:31
BluesKajrabiddachshund, just drag the icon into konqueror /usr/share/autostart, be sure tpo open autostart with : kdesudo konqueror /usr/share/autostart in the Run Command (alt+F2)22:32
RG-NewGuySony Viao/ model unknown :(22:33
ActionParsnipRG-NewGuy: ok run lspci22:33
ActionParsnipin terminal22:33
BluesKaj!ndiswrapper | RG-NewGuy22:33
ubottuRG-NewGuy: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs22:33
leneahey all. did anyone actually manage to play .rmvb under kubuntu 8.04 KDE4?22:33
ActionParsnipRG-NewGuy: you'll see a tonne of text, read it, one line will be your wireless22:33
ActionParsnipRG-NewGuy: paste that line and only that line in here22:34
RG-NewGuyi'll have to try at another time (if i leave this computer another person will get on)22:35
ActionParsnipRG-NewGuy: ok well I doubt they will use it as its got no www access, and it seems thats all people use them for these days22:35
RG-NewGuythis computer has www access22:35
RG-NewGuythis comp = public22:35
RG-NewGuymy laptop = in other room22:36
ActionParsnipRG-NewGuy: oic :D22:36
RG-NewGuygotta love externals22:36
ActionParsnipRG-NewGuy: well run lspci and write what you see and head in here and someone will help22:36
nusakanIf I'm partitioning an external hard drive for use as storage, do I just make it one big ext3 partition?22:37
Daisuke-Laptopnusakan: that's fine, assuming you don't have a windows boot that needs to access it as well22:37
RG-NewGuyActionParsnip, here is a question22:39
ActionParsnipnusakan: partition it as you want22:39
RG-NewGuysomeone earlier suggested i use my install cd as a source for packages, what kind of packages would be on the cd that didn't get installed?22:39
ActionParsnipRG-NewGuy: not all the stuff on the cd gets install, theers tonnes on there. If you want to add stuff then you can22:40
RG-NewGuyany multimedia stuff?22:41
RG-NewGuylike timidity?22:41
ActionParsnipRG-NewGuy: should be yes22:41
RG-NewGuycd = internet iso, burn22:41
ActionParsnipRG-NewGuy: but not everyone wants timidity so its not installed22:41
RG-NewGuyintresting once last question22:42
RG-NewGuyhow do i make cd a source?22:42
nusakanI'm using QTparted and whenever I finish partitioning it. It... like... forgets what the partition is. Whenever I come back to it it has Type unknown and doesn't remember the label for the partition.22:42
ActionParsnipRG-NewGuy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu22:43
RG-NewGuyi find it funny, right now nobody can use this comp except me however i'm not allowed to take out the net connection and plug it in my personal :(22:43
ActionParsnipnusakan: did you run kdesu qtparted?22:43
ActionParsnipRG-NewGuy: do it when they are all asleep22:44
nusakanI don't know what that means... so no.22:44
nusakanthat doesn't mean it's not gonna work at all now does it?22:44
ActionParsnipnusakan: you will have ran it as a user, which wont give you the access yuo need22:45
ActionParsnipnusakan: you need to run it with root privs (kdesu) or it wont write to the disk22:45
nusakando need to run it in Konsole?22:45
BluesKajnusakan, I haven't had much experience with qtparted, but i 've used GParted successfully many times. It's a useful tool that can be booted into as a partition editor for any OS and ghosting partitons to other drives as well, amongst other things22:45
RG-NewGuyActionParsnip, sadly no such time exist (constant travel in and out of here) [that was the first thought to cross my mind :) ]22:45
ActionParsnipRG-NewGuy: helps if you get ubuntu friendly wifi ;)22:46
ActionParsnipRG-NewGuy: look round the laptop, is there no model, look to the bottom rigt of the screen is there a sticker22:47
ActionParsnipsony are good like that22:47
ActionParsnipplus sony == $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$422:47
BluesKaj!GParted | nusakan22:47
ubottunusakan: gparted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php22:47
ActionParsnipBluesKaj: hes got qtparted as hes running kde22:48
RG-NewGuysony = trash22:49
RG-NewGuyi wanted a dual boot22:49
RG-NewGuyi ended up with an empty hdd22:49
nusakangot gparted22:49
kyhi! how can i to adjust wifi on laptop asus s200n (kubuntu 8/04)22:49
nusakannow where would it be?22:49
nusakan"sudo apt-get install gparted" finished. Now what?22:51
miraclemaxim_type gparted22:51
ActionParsnipyoull need kdesu gparted22:51
nusakanFailed to open device22:52
ActionParsnipnusakan: try man gparted22:52
BluesKajgparted should be run as a live cd22:54
RG-NewGuyif i add my cd as a repositary is there a way to choose which packages to install?22:56
RG-NewGuyor will it be like guessing if its there22:56
nusakancan i do kdesu qtparted?22:56
RG-NewGuysomething like browse repos?22:57
ActionParsnipRG-NewGuy: you run sudo apt-get update and it will see what .debs are on the cd22:57
ActionParsnipRG-NewGuy: its transparent to you22:57
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JuhapuhaHello. I need help with JuK player and Konversation IRC client. The /media command returns "no supported players are running" when i try to use  it when listening music with JuK. I'm wondering if someone could help me out :)23:00
JuhapuhaKubuntu 8.04 and kd4.123:00
nusakanI think i got it! GParted is formatting it now!23:01
RG-NewGuywell i am off thanks for all the help23:01
RG-NewGuyi WILL be back23:01
nusakanThanks for your help everyone. I'll be back if i have more questions.23:02
metaldark.23:07
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nusakanok i'm enabling it in system settings. what do I make the mount point?23:08
ActionParsnipnusakan: is it just for data storage?23:09
nusakanyes23:09
ActionParsnipnusakan: then anywhere you want23:10
ActionParsnipjust not anywhere in /opt or you'll get issues23:10
ActionParsnipand we'll all laugh23:10
nusakanCould I make it a folder on the Desktop?23:10
ActionParsnipnusakan: sure23:11
nusakanAnd does that mean anything that gets put in that folder gets saved to the drive?23:11
ActionParsnipnusakan: if you add it suitably in /etc/fstab it wil mount at boot23:11
ActionParsnipnusakan: yes as its mounted there23:12
ActionParsnipnusakan: you can mount it to any empty folder23:12
ActionParsnipnusakan: its common to use /mnt/<some folder name>23:12
nusakanok im in the window and its asking me the mount point. if i want it to be a folder on my desktop named Justin Case, do I just put that, or /mnt/Justin Case or what?23:14
ActionParsnipnusakan: no, open a konsole and type mkdir ~/Desktop/Justin\ Case23:15
ActionParsnipthen use the tool to specify that folder as the mount point23:15
ActionParsnipnusakan: sounds like its going to update your /etc/fstab for you23:16
ActionParsnipnusakan: is it going ok?23:17
ActionParsnipnusakan: you needed the \ in the name Justin\ Case to handle the space23:17
nusakanYeah, one more option do I want device by name, by uuid, or by label?23:19
ActionParsnipwell current fstab uses uuids so id stick with that23:19
nusakanwhat do i put for uuid?23:20
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ActionParsnipnusakan: oh god no idea23:20
ActionParsnipnusakan: is this part of gparted still?23:21
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nusakanno, system settings23:21
nusakanthe default is by name23:21
ActionParsnipuse that then, the defaults are usually fine23:21
nusakanwhat do I name it?23:22
nusakananything i want?23:22
BluesKajeeuww , system settings edits are finicky23:22
ActionParsnipsomething with a single word, no spaces23:22
ActionParsnipsomething like storage or files23:22
ActionParsnipor stuff23:22
nusakanSomething that when I see it Ill know it's talking about my external, but it could be anyhting?23:23
nusakanthat's one word23:23
ActionParsnipas far as i know23:23
nusakanok23:23
nusakanAtlas23:23
ActionParsnipi usually do all this manually so im not familiar23:23
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nusakanwas there a better way i should have done it?23:24
ActionParsnipusing mke2fs /etc/fstab etc but noobs need apps which means they wont break stuuf (a good thing)23:24
bobyada_How do I play rmvb files?23:24
nusakando i check enable at startup?23:25
ActionParsnipbobyada_: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/745342.html23:25
ActionParsnipnusakan: run sudo mount -a23:25
nusakanshouldn't i finish this?23:26
ActionParsnipnusakan: oooh, i thought yuo had23:26
ActionParsnipnusakan: id check it23:26
nusakanshould i click the checkbox for enable at startup?23:26
nusakanok23:26
nusakan'Atlas' does not seem to be a device and the option 'bind' has not been specified in the "Advanced" page?23:29
nusakanShould I add the 'loop' option?23:29
ActionParsnip!gparted23:29
ubottugparted is a !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php23:29
ActionParsnipid read that23:29
nusakanI got an error message that said that, should i click ok?23:30
nusakanor rather yes?23:30
ActionParsnipnusakan: http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Gparted23:31
nusakanwait, i think it wanted the name to be /dev/sdb1. Does that sound right?23:32
ActionParsnipsounds ok, if you run sudo fdisk -l yuo'll see23:32
nusakanthats the name of the partition in gparted23:33
ActionParsnipbring up another konsole and run it23:33
ActionParsnipoh ok23:33
nusakanso i guess just /dev/sdb23:34
ActionParsnipmakes sense23:34
ActionParsnipif you run the fdisk command you can check23:34
nusakanhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/35248/23:37
ActionParsnipnusakan: ok run sudo fdisk -l and give me a pastebin of the output23:38
nusakanhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/35249/23:39
Daisuke-Laptopnusakan: i would imagine you would have to mount with a device and partition number.  rather than /dev/sdb, it would be /dev/sdb0 or 1 or something23:39
Daisuke-Laptopand it looks like /dev/sdb123:39
ActionParsnipsdb1 is the partition23:39
Daisuke-Laptopyep, just mounting /dev/sdb won't work unless you're intelikey (weirdo doesn't use partitions :D)23:40
ActionParsnipnusakan: try sudo mount /dev/sdb1 ~/Desktop/Justin\ Case23:40
nusakanhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/35250/23:41
nusakanin konsole?23:41
ActionParsnipnusakan: all commands written in here are ALL in konsole23:41
ActionParsnipnusakan: better?23:43
nusakani think so, but I still cant save files to Justin Case23:44
ActionParsnipwell if you run mount on its own it will tell you whats mounted and where23:45
ActionParsnippastebin it :D23:45
nusakanhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/35252/23:46
ActionParsnipnusakan: check line 13 bro ;)23:46
nusakanthen why doesn't it work?23:47
ActionParsnipnusakan: you may need to grant users access to it, gimme a sec23:47
di48locan someone help me mount my removable harddrive permanently??23:50
ActionParsnip!fstab | di48lo23:50
ubottudi48lo: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions23:50
ActionParsnipnusakan: im gonna give you a line to add to your /etc/fstab this wil allow users access23:51
ActionParsnipnusakan: /dev/sdb1              /home/nathan/Desktop/Justin\ Case          ext3    defaults 0 023:55
ActionParsnipnusakan: kdesu kate /etc/fstab23:55
ActionParsnipnusakan: add that to the bottom of the file23:55
nusakanok done23:58
steve555 23:58
ActionParsnipnusakan: ok save it and close kate23:58
ActionParsnipthen sudo mount -a23:59
ActionParsnipthen try again23:59

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