[00:00] Im trying to clear disk space and I installed the KDE over the Gnome how can I remove GNOME/ [00:00] !purekde [00:00] If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE » [00:01] thanks === robert__ is now known as Guest55030 [00:07] okay i keep getting 'cannot find XXX pkg' [00:10] any other suggestions [00:13] HOLLO [00:13] HELLO === don is now known as Guest45875 [00:31] there should be a warning on the slow keys accessibility feature- I thought my keyboard or driver was acting up because it took so long to get a keypress, and was extremely difficult to work with [00:32] does anyone know how to remove a bogus soundcard? [00:34] How do i lock/hold a package? tried "aptitude hold" no luck.. ? [00:43] anyone here know how to use a makefile? [00:55] dolo: what do you mean? [00:58] how can i adjust the brightness on my sony vaio vgn nr110e? [00:59] <[pyro]> zzl: doesnt it have a function / up arrow key combo or something? [01:00] i tried the Function keys along with F5 and F6 but it doesn't work [01:00] using the brightness applet doesn't work [01:00] Hi I've recently installed a new video card (ATI Radeon 2400PRO) in my computer and was trying to figure out what driver to use. It's working, though it jumps when playing a GL game and instead of moving smoothly. But in the process, sound quit working and I can't get it working again. Can anyone help me with either problem, getting the drivers set up right or getting sound working again? Using Hardy Heron. [01:01] This Is no problem [01:02] anyone know of a script to decrease the brightness in kubuntu? [01:10] anyone? [01:12] why do you want that to be a script ? doesnt your monitor has this function? [01:12] i have a laptop [01:12] otherwise, I wouldn't need to worry about brightness [01:13] look int system setting desktop. but i cant remember exactly. im in kde4.1 atm === pascalFR is now known as PascalFR [01:27] zzl: you should be able to set brightness with the function key on the keyboard [01:27] what brand laptop? [01:29] im using sony vaio vgn-nr110e [01:31] none of the keys on the keyboard have a brightness function if used in conjunction with the function key? [01:32] How do I remove instruments from a song? [01:33] FN+F5 and F6 but it doesn't work [01:33] LetsGo67, this is not a music channel [01:33] neither does the brightness app [01:33] nuxil where do I get help? [01:33] !google [01:33] google is the helpers' friend; many newer users dont have the google-fu yet; For GNU/Linux: http://google.com/linux [01:33] I used Google nuxil. [01:34] are you talking about a equlizer or something ? [01:34] LetsGo67, maybe amarok has some plugins [01:35] Sorry I don't use KDE I'm just asking in #kubuntu because no one in #ubuntu seems to be helping me. [01:35] haha. thats nothing new :p [01:35] Hello [01:35] people are answering your questions in #ubuntu [01:35] I'm having a problem with the undead [01:35] LetsGo67, #kubuntu supports kde apps .. not gnome [01:36] They are? grand! [01:36] alteroo: acid/swords are a good choice [01:36] Anyway X went beserker nuts [01:36] like 99% of the CPU [01:36] killed my Keyboard [01:36] How do I remove vocals? [01:37] so I went to another machine and sshed in since my music was still running [01:37] so I went to another machine and sshed in since my music was still running [01:37] so I went to another machine and sshed in since my music was still running [01:37] Hello all.. [01:37] like 99% of the CPU [01:37] Isdle [01:37] LetsGo67: very carefully- and if you can, you should just buy a karoake version of it [01:37] aodaj [01:38] LetsGo67: the only choice I know of for Linux is Audacity, but unless it has a strip vocals option, you pretty much have to do it by hand [01:38] Bad day had to reinstall kubuntu.. [01:38] that sucks [01:38] szakulec it has a revert. [01:38] bill__, whay? [01:38] szakulec: where can I buy voice only music? [01:39] LetsGo67, move to #music [01:39] LetsGo67: for more popular stuff, your local big box store should carry Karoake CD's (may be called CD-Gs) [01:39] My game files got mixed. If I tried to play one it brought up two... [01:40] Plus my system running slow [01:41] Nero has a program that strips vocals I think. === santiago_ is now known as santiago-ve [01:42] anyone use photoshop? [01:42] and got it to work with WINE? [01:43] * nuxil gives zzl gimp [01:43] gimp doesn't have that many tools compared to photoshop [01:46] zzl, it got tonz of pluginz [01:48] hmm, never knew that === fernando is now known as fer_mdp [01:52] thanks [01:52] o/ [01:57] what is this anbout kwin being so resource hungry === artur_ is now known as artur_kde [02:00] hello, how do i change the font sizes in gtk applications? for example, xchat. not the chat window, but the nick list etc, text size on the buttons, etc [02:03] Hello. === fernando is now known as Guest37389 [02:07] hi [02:07] Fieldy, xchat has settings for that in its own settings [02:08] Dr_willis: it does for the chat window, but not the nick list or the various buttons [02:08] that's set in the gtk theme, but i'm not sure how to accomplish that [02:09] Hmm.. I normally hide the nick listing anyway. [02:09] run the gnome-theme settings tool and set them from there I guess [02:10] Dr_willis: ok, i'll have a look. thank you [02:11] hi, is it possible to encrypt existing root partition with cryptsetup? or i need to resize it, create new partition, create new FS using cryptsetup, copy contents, remap new partition as root, delete old root partition, resize new one? [02:26] StrangePuppy: probably choice b === luis is now known as tigremx [02:27] StrangePuppy: and you also get to have the fun of hoping the initramfs will cope with it (it should, but that doesn't mean it's going to) [02:32] dwidmann: thanks [02:32] the passphrase should be asked before INIT? [02:32] StrangePuppy: I think the passphrase is asked after the initramfs loads === root is now known as Guest71839 [02:36] Greets, everyone... [02:37] Anyone else having issues with the nVidia driver after the latest updates? I can't get my X server to start. [02:37] did you use envyng? [02:37] (i have that problem every update) [02:38] Daisuke_Laptop: Yeah, as I have been for a couple months now, no problems until now... [02:38] Daisuke_Laptop: I uninstalled the driver via envyng, rebooted and installed nvidia-glx-new, no joy. [02:38] yeah, i just reinstalled with envyng [02:39] i have not been able to get back to using the "normal" nvidia-glx-new since going to envyng [02:39] a bit upsetting, actually [02:40] I'm giving 2.6.24-18 a try now with the envyng driver... [02:42] is there a ping/finger/tracert/etc gui suite for KDE? [02:44] knmap [02:44] ntop [02:55] hi all [02:56] hmm.. [02:57] sure is quiet in here... === joe__ is now known as zero === zero is now known as Guest45082 === Guest45082 is now known as morales [03:15] i was woundering, can anyone help me out with k3b, everytime i put a avi file to a disk the sound is all crackily i was woundering if anyone can help me out? === joe__ is now known as revolution [03:26] does anyone know how to have the video & sound be preffect cuz i am useing avi files & then putt'n them to a dvd but when i do the picture is preffect & the sound is very stadickie, can anyone tell me how can i make the sound be preffect? [03:27] I use K2b to put the avi file to a dvd but when i play the avi file in VLC Media Player the sound & picture r preffect but when i put the avi file to a dvd there's a hole different story for the sound [03:28] can anyone help me out??? [03:29] wtf, why r u ppl ingorning me? [03:30] why wont u ppl help me out, that's why ppl come here to get help so why don't u help the ppl that r in need, like me??? [03:32] ok, ill bite. did you transcode your video to avi?? [03:32] its due to your skin color, I'd assume [03:33] we don't like white people round these parts [03:33] i don't know [03:33] did you download the video as an avi file?? [03:33] the avi file's work fine when i play then in VLC Media Player [03:33] yes [03:34] whats the different story for the sound?? not syncing?? [03:35] the sound work's fine when i play it in VLC Media PLayer but when i put the avi file to a disk & watch it on my home dvd player or even on my computer to make sure that it worked right the picture is preffect but the sound, sound's like crap [03:36] so the sound is atleast matching the people speaking but it just doesn't sound good? [03:37] the sound is more like loud stadick when i put the avi file to a disk [03:38] maybe using this method will work better http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/SuSE/2008-06/msg01222.html [03:38] seems complicated but if you follow step by step it might work better [03:39] ok i can give that a shot [03:39] thns hoochymama [03:39] or maybe this http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/SuSE/2008-06/msg01234.html [03:40] ive had good luck using the command line to transcode the video using other tools. also, I dont have a dvd burner so i actually can burn a video to vcd format and its not that bad [03:44] but the thing is that i'm new with us'n kubunti so i don't know much about linux but i'll be back online tomorror gotta attend to my wife for gett'n some if u know what i mean, :-D l8tr [03:50] kubuntu-kde4 [03:51] what about it [03:51] it's another forum, grin... [03:51] where?? you mean another irc?? [03:52] room, channel, whatever [03:52] ok, be right there [03:53] not that many people there [03:53] seems there is not that many people here as well [03:54] depends on your location, it's night time for a large bulk of members [03:54] despite almost 300 online members [03:54] gotcha [03:55] kde4 is great though. cant wait till its complete [03:55] technically it is, you can get support on the kubuntu-kde4 forum [03:56] since your there............ [03:56] yes [03:57] can i install kubuntu 64bit on intel core duo? [03:57] scoopede: no, but you can if you have a core 2 duo [03:57] yes, i have it running on my intel macbook [03:57] as scoopede says [03:58] :-( why? [03:58] looking to download kmldonkey but it is asking for libplasma1 instead of the installed version 2 [03:58] it will be faster........... [03:58] scoopede: the core duo had the 64-bit functionality either not included or disabled for some reason or other [03:59] i guess core duo needs i386 [03:59] and that's in a way more friendly than the 64 bit version [03:59] depending on the user [04:00] looking to download kmldonkey but it is asking for libplasma1 instead of the installed version 2 [04:01] or any other gnuttela type software === santiago_ is now known as santiago-ve === omar is now known as yulo === beast is now known as rabiddachshund [04:23] does awn work well with kde? [04:31] hello [04:35] hey nature. === adam is now known as xevious- [04:42] 7.10->8.04 upgrade just crashed midway through. the system doesnt realize that it's only 75% upgraded to 8.04 and i can't restart the upgrade tool (because it was removed from /tmp on reboot). what's the best way to resume the upgrade process? [04:45] i'm currently doing dpkg-reconfigure -a === sissy is now known as sissy_ === santiago_ is now known as santiago-ve [04:56] i've been downloading themes and icon sets, and i'm pretty happy. but some icons i don't like. how can i add my own icons to the set (really i want to copy the icons from another set). i've found the .icons folder, but how do i navigate it? [04:57] chipbuddy. the file names define how these icons are used by default. replacing the icon in your currently selected icon set's folder set will replace it. remember there are often various sizes, so you need to replace all the ones you want. [04:58] for example, the kmenu icon is called kmenu.png in the subfolder ~/.kde/icons/...... [04:58] mu3en, i specifically want to change the log off icon, do i need to go through all the folders to find what the name is? or is there some list of names online? [04:59] maybe you could find a reference online, or you can visually find them in a konqueror layout, or track them down with a search [04:59] i guess you have a headstart since you know the size of the icons... [05:01] hi [05:02] I've got a problem with outputting my laptop's display to an external monitor / projector [05:02] I'm running Kubuntu 8.04 [05:02] on a Dell XPS M1330 [05:03] I can output to a separate monitor under Windows [05:03] graphics card? [05:03] and it works properly while Kubuntu is loading too [05:03] sounds like xconfig [05:03] nvidia - 8400, I think [05:03] turtlewind: which driver etc.? [05:03] the other thing is I'm running the desktop effects [05:03] do you have the nvidia driver installed and configured [05:03] nvidia drivers [05:04] yes [05:04] what happens when you use the nvidia config tool? [05:04] i wouldn't expect it to work with effects [05:04] OK [05:04] is there a quick way to disable effects for when I'm making a presentation? [05:04] turtlewind: this is compiz fusion ? [05:05] I think so - it's the standard 'desktop effects' in kubuntu 8.04 [05:05] turtlewind: kde3 right? [05:05] yes [05:06] turtlewind: how did you turn it on etc. ? [05:07] Hello all, im having some problems with QTparted, it wont let me write partitions to my Harddisk ( my harddisk is completely blank btw, no partitions or anything ), i did manage to write the primary partition but it supposedly writes a swap space but then doesnt recognise it... using kubuntu 7.10 [05:07] er... it was a while ago, but I remember going through all sorts of nonsense with it, I can't remember what problem I had but I don't think I did it the standard way [05:08] turtlewind, yeah, sound like compiz [05:08] ubuntu, I always have to close qt parted completely, physically remove the drive (if external) remount it, and then make the next partition [05:09] thats a problem, this HD is not external [05:09] I've disabled desktop effects, and it still doesn't work [05:10] ubuntu, restarts work too in that case...that's a poor answer i know...otherwise the command line seems to work better [05:10] turtlewind, have you opened nvidia settings? [05:10] no, I'll do that now [05:11] ok ill try that, thanks anyway mu3en [05:11] turtlewind, check to see if your external monitor/projector is recognized in there. on some of my machines it will not hotplug and i need to restart the machine with the external connected [05:11] sorry... where is nvidia settings? [05:11] no, restarting won't help - I tried that before [05:11] it was working while kubuntu was loading, but as soon as the login screen appeared it stopped working [05:12] that's beacuse of x [05:12] the loadup is before X [05:12] as as soon as your x settings (and nvidia card) kick in, you won't see it [05:12] but at least it is probably seen as connected [05:12] turtlewind: kwin --replace & is the way to do in konsole. i'll see if there is still a trayicon you can get [05:12] nvidia settings will allow you to activate it [05:13] the tray icon still exists flaccid_ i have it running [05:13] mu3en: cool. can you specify the pkg name for turtlewind? [05:14] turtlewind, i think it is called fusion icon, you can find it in adept manager [05:14] thanks, I'll look for that [05:14] mu3en: can't see it here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=compiz&searchon=names&suite=hardy§ion=all [05:14] turtlewind, i think the command is nvidia_settings [05:14] !info fusion-icon [05:14] fusion-icon (source: fusion-icon): tray icon to launch and manage Compiz Fusion. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.0.0+git20071028-2ubuntu2 (hardy), package size 29 kB, installed size 264 kB [05:14] cool [05:14] didn't come up in search [05:15] maybe repo issue [05:15] thank mu3en. i figured it out... after copying over the actual icon, i also had to edit this text file [05:16] chipbuddy, yes, you can do it that way without replacing anything, just edit the description in that definitions file [05:16] nvidia-settings is not installed, installing it [05:16] turtlewind...i think that should help [05:16] there is lots on the nvidia config binaries on google and the wiki [05:17] flaccid, turtlewind, a little too much...really can get confusing with ten solutions to each issue [05:17] the nvidia settings worked [05:17] there's an option for 'twin view' [05:18] grin. cool. and lots of cool options [05:18] i havnt seen a solution yet mu3en [05:18] so I just selected that and it works [05:18] grin... [05:18] havnt seen the x log either.. [05:18] nor the xorg.conf :) [05:18] flaccid, seeing is believing... [05:18] problem solved... [05:18] right and im george washington [05:19] how's that turtlewind? [05:19] mu3en: sorry what was your solution and to solve which problem? [05:20] flaccid_ external projector on nvidia [05:20] @muen: I installed nvidia-settings, and selected 'twin view' in that [05:20] and it worked [05:20] that was with the monitor, off to try on the projector now but I guess it's the same [05:21] yeah, and you can do all sorts of cool stuff with cloning/split view/positioning etc... [05:21] mu3en: and what was the solution? [05:21] rightio then [05:21] flaccid_ see above turtlewind's confirmation [05:22] it seems i misunderstood the problem [05:22] grin, yeah, but the boot sequence and the running nvidia were the giveaway. [05:23] only cause i've bashed my head against a bunch of externals on a bunch of cards for years...legacy of non standard laptops over and over [05:23] what was the nvidia-settings full command run just then out of interest? [05:23] that's it...it's a GUI... [05:24] oh i must be thing nvidia-xconfig or something [05:24] you can make the same settings changes using commands too though [05:24] hello kallu [05:25] yeah...that's it i think [05:25] mu3en: ah this is user based and not xorg.conf [05:26] @flaccid: nvidia-settings loads a graphical window [05:26] then I selected the external monitor, hit 'configure' and chose 'twin view' [05:26] flaccid_ it edits the xorg.conf too... [05:26] it works on the projector too, by the way - thanks to everyone for all the help [05:27] mu3en: doesn't say that in the man page. it does mention /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc however [05:29] i think maybe global way is sudo nvidia-xconfig --twinview [05:29] flaccid_ oh, cool, yeah that would make sense. I have a feeling that fro some functions it adds lines... === firephoto_ is now known as firephoto [05:30] i dislike the non-standard nature of this but i guess 1 tools is dynamic and 1 is in the xorg.conf [05:30] mu3en, while for others it would just adjust it's own handling parameters...you can do this all manually by adding lines into the xorg. conf defining the 'twinview' 'position' 'size' etc... before restarting the x server [05:31] faen [05:31] hmm something happens [05:32] flaccid_ that's why it's so confusing...when you come into this thing blank, you have no idea which to edit first, if at all, in what order..etc... [05:33] flaccid_ thankfully since the last couple of cycles, you can do this all very cleanly through adept manager and this nvidia config [05:33] mu3en: yeah totally and im an ati user atm (not by choice). there is official doco on the driver but its hard to find, in fact i'll look now [05:33] well the gui tool doesn't write back to xorg.conf but yeah [05:34] flaccid_ right, ATI, Nvidia, Intel, it's all a little difficult, in my experience, ati has really killed me in the past, nvidia has improved vastly in the last couple of years with their binary driver (thoughts about that aside of course) [05:35] i help here alot and forgot a lot of stuff because of this inconsistency but what i do know for sure is that there are decent amount of common problems with all three of them. so it is true to say that video on linux is poort [05:36] falccid_ confused rather than poor maybe...get it working and, as turtlewind is about to discover i hope, it really does some great stuff [05:36] my friend's graphics just crapped out because they moved geforce2 drivers into legacy and the driver update didn't realize it had to remove the current nvidia package and install nvidia-legacy [05:36] he was really confused about that === kairobin is now known as Kairobin === Kairobin is now known as KaiRobin [05:37] mu3en: there are many bugs/issues when it is working, thats a fact and well documented [05:38] how do i autostart compiz before i get to the desktop? [05:38] !autostart | judgen [05:38] judgen: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory. For a complete guide, see http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html [05:38] flaccid_: thats what i have allready done. [05:38] there's a better way with adding some command to $KDE_WM or something [05:38] but i want it to autostart before kde is loaded. [05:38] i dont use compiz [05:38] or atleast the desktop [05:39] flaccid_ there are indeed and many of the weirdness could be ironed out. having said that, i don't have the same screen pounding moments as two years back... [05:39] well here is the doco http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/173.14.12/README/index.html wasn't that hard to find, its linked on their webpage. here is the Twinview chapter: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/173.14.12/README/chapter-13.html :) [05:39] flaccid_ !!! oh man... moment of nostalgia.. !!! thanks for that... [05:40] i spent like a week in those pages!!! [05:40] it does work, eventually, as long as you ignore other solutions [05:40] yeah ... sweet and i only came across this a few months ago after i guess a few years of helping (i am yet to get an nvidia card myself but i always get friends to choose nvidia) [05:40] and it's VERY manual [05:40] why does dpkg-reconfigure -a update fonconfig cache over and over for the same fonts? [05:41] rebuilds font cache each time i think xevious [05:41] mu3en: oh and the last though on the video thing. randr support by the restricted drivers <-- once this is done then thats a vast improvement but really sux now [05:43] flaccid_ let's see how it goes, if i was good at understanding deep level, it would be cool to learn more about the video output madness...but i guess it's way beyond me: maximum respect to the guys for getting us this far [05:45] mu3en: yeah, all i know is that randr is mad if its supported with dual displays [05:45] works good with open drivers if no other problems [05:48] flaccid_ sorry to drag it on, but honestly, having done this on macosx, mswin, and linux bases, linux really does have a credible package. [05:48] is there a way to full check all dependencies and recover a running installation? [05:48] s/full/fully [05:49] flaccid_ *can* look and feel awesome [05:51] xevious, is it very heavily customized, or are you just looking to get the initial install back? to do that you can find the default package lists on line and run a big install command, could take time, but will get you back to zero. Assuming adept manager is still operational, that can also help. [05:52] mu3en: it's not customized at all. basic desktop use system. i was just doing a 7.10 to 8.04 upgrade and it crashed midway through [05:53] now dpkg is throwing errors with hal, hal-cups-utils, kde-guidance-powermanager, kubuntu-desktop, network-manager, network-manager-kde, and system-config-printer-kde [05:53] whenever i try to do anything with apt, dpkg, aptitude, adept, etc [05:55] xevious, did you mention the error type? [05:55] a whole bunch of interrelated dependency problems [05:57] Hi there [05:58] is there a way to download the update manager that gets downloaded with the version upgrade button in adept? [05:59] xevious, you may need to try and build backwards from those dependencies, but to be honest, one big preoblem will be that many of the packaes in the dpkg run are kind of conflicting now [05:59] can you still run adept manager graphically? [05:59] and if so, what does it do? [05:59] a basic PyQt signal/slot connection is not working, is it a problem with the Kubuntu PyQt package ? [05:59] there are repair and fulfill dependency command you can use with apt-get too [05:59] this example should work ( http://www.mail-archive.com/pyqt@riverbankcomputing.com/msg12872.html ) but is not on my computer [06:00] i mean is not working [06:00] adept doesnt show the version upgrade tool [06:00] if i could get that, i'm sure it would continue where it left off [06:01] xevious, try running through the instructions for upgrade on the kubuntu site [06:01] Can anyone help me get a sidewinder gamepad set up? [06:02] I tried the forums, they seem to be for an older kernel (gamepad setup) [06:03] mu3en: os x or win still more reliable in terms of everything working [06:04] flaccid_ i can't argue with that, 'out of the box' so called is probably a bit more immediate [06:05] is there a way to force the kubuntu install cd into console mode or something? I just get a blank screen after bootstrap [06:05] Kubuntu 8,04 / I need some help getting a sidewinder gamepad to work Any takers? [06:05] how do i get 3d desktop on kde 4.1?\ [06:06] pgib are you using alternate install cd? [06:07] no. I didn't anticipate having graphic problems [06:07] harpreet ask at kubuntu-kde4 [06:07] to be honest, I think the CD may be bad.. going to burn another [06:07] pgib, if ever you have a worry, use the alternate if possible.. [06:07] lol, it randomly started going. great [06:08] pgib there is a bug on some cards that do cause a long period of blank soemtimes in an install [06:09] brandon_ what does the system settings / mouse & keyboard / joystock tell you? [06:09] device is not detected [06:10] brandon_ what about output of lsusb? [06:10] yeah google the id from lsusb + ubuntu [06:10] pci card (serial) [06:11] brandon_: get it from lshw [06:11] brandon_: much on google: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=ubuntu+sidewinder+gamepad&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 [06:11] Sorry but I am a NOOB so you might have to give me more detail [06:11] this'll confuse hte heck out of this install [06:11] i'm just replacing sources.list with a default gutsy sources.list [06:12] there is a kernel mod for it [06:12] thanks flaccid but I think that is for 7.10 and it does not seem to work [06:12] xevious-: its easier to disable them all in adept and then re-enable what you want :) [06:12] brandon_: why does it not work? [06:13] I might have tried a different one. let me check [06:13] and i provided a set of search results, not 1 7.10 link [06:14] this are for older kernels [06:14] I have tried and it will not find the device under {js0-4} [06:15] am I doing something wrong maybe??? [06:15] brandon_: its for the newest kernel as well: eg. /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/drivers/input/joystick/sidewinder.ko [06:16] brandon_: what are you trying exactly and what is giving you the error and what is the error exactly. if you generalise we don't know what its actually saying or what you are doing :) [06:17] when I type the cammands and then do the modprobes. It does not list anything. it just retuns as if I typed nothing at all [06:17] hah [06:17] it could be that on a kde level, the change is not refreshed? [06:17] just got the version upgrade button back [06:18] xevious, got it? [06:18] grin [06:18] let's see how this goes [06:18] i wish mcdonalds delivered [06:18] I know I have jscalibrator and joystick installed, I have tried to do the ls modprobe and it shows all modules and gameport is listed but any other modprobe will not list anything [06:19] mu3en: the key was /etc/lsb_release [06:19] brandon_: if thats the case, it means they loaded successfully. [06:19] mcdonalds delivery sounds way too dangerous [06:19] fuel the epidemic! [06:19] xevious, in china, they do...grin... [06:19] But when I go to jscalibrator or joystick. The device is not found. [06:20] I'm going to China [06:20] brandon_: so you loaded them successfully. now check dmesg and /var/log/messages [06:20] oh jeez. [06:20] how do I do that?? [06:20] xevious, interesting...could you tell me a little more about the solution? [06:20] apparently i havent successfully fixed anything [06:20] probably just confused it more [06:21] brandon_: type dmesg and check the other logs in ksystemlog [06:21] xevious, what has happened after the version upgrade button? [06:21] lots of error messages [06:21] dme56 ..It says command not found [06:22] the packages i'm having issues with didnt install successfully then the whole program crashed [06:22] xevious-: make sure you have a valid sources.list then do the upgrade from konsole and pastebin the output [06:22] brandon_: you might wanna pastebin the log and/or dmesg [06:22] i'm just gonna boot off a disc and wipe everything except /home and do a fresh install [06:22] brandon_: if you have this plugged in serial we need to make sure that serial port is also accessible as a device.. [06:23] xevious-: thats pretty drastic [06:23] it'll take less time than trying to fix this [06:23] how do I do that....sorry such a noob [06:23] xevious, it is drastic, but if you are confident to do it safely and quickly, it may be cleaner and easier [06:24] this was originally a 6.04 system i believe [06:24] xevious, i have not version upgraded since three cycles back after losing my temper the first time i tried. since then i always clean install, with a separate home partition in any case [06:24] xevious-: well im happy to help if you decide to try [06:24] xevious, but i heard some success stories of hardy to gutsy [06:25]