[00:22] <poolie> lifeless:  did you read curtis's "http is stateless" message?
[00:23] <lifeless> not yet
[00:24] <lifeless> ah yes I have
[00:24] <lifeless> hes right that http is stateless, because it is
[00:24] <lifeless> apps built on it don't have to be
[00:24] <Rinchen> >> changing topic to reflect new entry msg which has help information
[00:24] <lifeless> I was there when the code in question was written; as stuart - who wrote it - says
[00:31] <Hobbsee> oh dear.  aliens.
[00:34] <intellectronica> yeah, we told them many times that having a sprint on Mars is not such a great idea, but they wouldn't listen
[00:36] <Hobbsee> haha :)
[00:36] <Hobbsee> intellectronica: the question is...do they have beer on mars?
[00:38] <intellectronica> no, only scotch and soda. that's another problem with conducting sprints there
[00:39] <intellectronica> anyway, i think i'm about to be abducted by the tooth fairy. long day tomorrow
[00:57] <poolie> lifeless, the mind boggles...
[00:57] <poolie> "ip does not guarantee reliable delivery, therefore ...."
[01:03] <lifeless> poolie: you have to build layers
[01:03] <poolie> exactly
[01:03] <lifeless> did my mail come out funky ?
[01:03] <poolie> no, i'm agreeing with you
[01:03] <lifeless> k :)
[01:04] <poolie> if curtis is trying to say upper layers will have no richer functionality than the lower ones then life will be pretty miserable :)
[01:04] <poolie> i'm just venting astonishment :)
[01:04] <spiv> Astonishment was my reaction too.
[01:05] <poolie> i'm also a bit annoyed the bug 131165 is wontfix
[01:05] <spiv> "deliberate tradeoff that is working as designed" does not imply "not bug".
[01:07] <poolie> mm
[01:07] <poolie> well, "wontfix" does not imply "not bug"
[01:07] <poolie> i disagree with the decision not the categorization
[01:09] <spiv> I was referring to Curtis's message.
[01:10] <poolie> oh, right, yes
[01:10] <spiv> Anyway, I just dumped a quick idea in the bug.
[01:13] <poolie> me too
[01:40] <lifeless> I like the way Launchpad Home takes up two rows
[01:42] <lifeless> oh wow, we had the russion linguists out too
[01:42] <lifeless> poolie: had you noticed: Launchpad is hosting service for open source projects that's big on collaboration.
[01:45] <poolie> lol
[01:45] <poolie> is very cheap.
[01:46] <poolie> you like.
[01:46] <poolie> do you mean the tab label 'lp home' wraps?
[01:46] <poolie> it doesn't on my bigger screen
[01:46] <poolie> at least it wraps properly, that's quite nice
[01:48] <lifeless> it does, I have my window about 800 px wide
[04:23] <nbjayme> hello how do you create a project group? must it exist as a project? i am in the test website of launchpad and cannot figure it out. please help.
[04:24] <nbjayme> also is there a way to delete a project you have created?
[08:46] <seb128> hi
[08:47] <seb128> who do I need to ping when a bug gets spam? like somebody sending advertisement for his website
[08:51] <Nafallo> seb128: ghostbusters :-)
[08:51]  * Nafallo hides
[09:37] <meoblast001> ahhh
[09:37] <meoblast001> No such Launchpad account: meoblast001
[09:37] <meoblast001> what did i do wrong?
[09:37] <wgrant> meoblast001: Is that from bzr?
[09:38] <meoblast001> i think
[09:38] <wgrant> I think it's fairly clear what it means - what's your Launchpad username?
[09:38] <meoblast001> meoblast001 i think
[09:38] <meoblast001> h/o
[09:38] <meoblast001> they dont even have usernames do they
[09:38] <meoblast001> h/o i'll go check
[09:38] <wgrant> They do. What does https://launchpad.net/people/+me say in the url?
[09:38] <meoblast001> https://launchpad.net/~meoblast
[09:38] <meoblast001> hmmm
[09:39] <wgrant> Right.
[09:39] <meoblast001> where did the 001 go?
[09:39] <wgrant> I suspect that you didn't enter it.
[09:39] <meoblast001> this is my first time to really sit down and get to know Launchpad
[09:39] <wgrant> You may change your username if you wish.
[09:39] <meoblast001> wgrant: click that link... it says meoblast001 there
[09:39] <meoblast001> but my url doesnt have the 001
[09:40] <persia> meoblast001: The display name the the id string may be different
[09:40] <persia> s/the/and/
[09:40] <wgrant> meoblast001: Display names and usernames are quite distinct. Mine are 'William Grant' and 'wgrant', for example.
[09:40] <meoblast001> bzr: ERROR: Generic bzr smart protocol error: Permission denied: "/~meoblast/xeiso": Not enough information.
[09:40] <wgrant> That
[09:40] <meoblast001> maybe im not doing something right
[09:40] <wgrant> You're not.
[09:40] <meoblast001> bzr push bzr+ssh://meoblast@bazaar.launchpad.net/~meoblast/xeiso
[09:40] <wgrant> It needs to be ~person/project/branch
[09:40] <meoblast001> explain project and branch
[09:41] <meoblast001> i never commited to version control before
[09:41] <wgrant> branch is an arbitrary name that you choose.
[09:41] <meoblast001> i just knew it existed and downloaded from it
[09:41] <wgrant> project is the project that the code is for.
[09:41] <meoblast001> xeiso is the project i think
[09:41] <meoblast001> now what's the branch?
[09:41] <wgrant> Whatever you want.
[09:41] <wgrant> Maybe main, maybe trunk.
[09:41] <wgrant> Maybe gklrjfiosdfjsoi
[09:41] <meoblast001> what "should" i use
[09:42] <wgrant> I would suggest main.
[09:42] <meoblast001> based on this
[09:42] <meoblast001> it looks like trunk
[09:42] <wgrant> But trunk is fine too. Whatever you feel like.
[09:42] <meoblast001> https://launchpad.net/xeiso/
[09:42] <meoblast001> does that look like its trunk?
[09:42]  * meoblast001 is learning python and version control all in 1 day O_o
[09:42] <wgrant> The series is named trunk, but that's just the default name, and has little to do with branches.
[09:43] <meoblast001> so what shold i type?
[09:43] <wgrant> meoblast001: A good combination.
[09:43] <wgrant> meoblast001: bzr push lp:~meoblast/xeiso/main
[09:43] <meoblast001> ok
[09:43] <meoblast001> i typed bzr push bzr+ssh://meoblast@bazaar.launchpad.net/~meoblast/xeiso/main
[09:44] <meoblast001> im afraid
[09:44] <wgrant> You can use lp:~/meoblast/xeiso/main as a shortcut, but either will work fine.
[09:44] <meoblast001> if i messed up, xeiso could be ruined O_o
[09:44] <wgrant> I doubt it.
[09:44] <meoblast001> i still dont get the random red lines in xchat
[09:44] <meoblast001> what are those for?
[09:44] <meoblast001> cuz one just popped up
[09:45] <meoblast001> and it's been irritating me that i dont know what they do
[09:45] <wgrant> I think they are there to let you know when you switched away from the window or tab, so you know where you have to read from to catch up.
[09:45] <wgrant> But I haven't used XChat for a couple of years.
[09:45] <meoblast001> wtf im not gonna upload 40 megs
[09:45] <meoblast001> are they crazy
[09:45] <meoblast001> what did i put in there that shouldnt be in there
[09:46] <meoblast001> can i stop this process?
[09:46] <wgrant> Ctrl+C...
[09:46] <meoblast001> well... i just hit the x
[09:46] <wgrant> Oh, what are you doing it in?
[09:46] <meoblast001> omg
[09:46] <meoblast001> a wav file
[09:46] <meoblast001> thats why
[09:46] <wgrant> Heh.
[09:48] <meoblast001> wgrant: for my new commit, should it say "Deleted Unneeded Nexuiz Files" ?
[09:48] <meoblast001> if i deleted an unneeded wav and a few jpgs
[09:48] <wgrant> meoblast001: Just deleting them won't do any good.
[09:48] <wgrant> As they'll be present in old revisions.
[09:49] <meoblast001> well... i really didnt upload them yet
[09:49] <meoblast001> i dont think
[09:49] <wgrant> If you've committed them, they're in your repository.
[09:49] <meoblast001> i commited them to a local database?
[09:49] <meoblast001> i think
[09:49] <wgrant> Yes.
[09:49] <wgrant> When you push, you push all revisions.
[09:49] <meoblast001> exactly
[09:49] <meoblast001> if the files dont exist
[09:49] <meoblast001> it cant push them
[09:49] <meoblast001> right?
[09:50] <wgrant> It can and will, because they're still in the revision history.
[09:50] <wgrant> That's how version control works.
[09:50] <wgrant> That's the point of version control.
[09:50] <meoblast001> so how do i remove them?
[09:50] <wgrant> #bzr would be a good place to ask.
[09:50] <wgrant> Unless they were added in the last few revisions, there's probably not much hope.
[09:51] <meoblast001> they were added in the last revision
[09:51] <wgrant> You might be able to get away with running 'bzr uncommit', removing them, and recommitting.
[09:52] <wgrant> That might still not fully remove them - I'm not sure exactly how pushing works. But it's worth a try.
[09:52] <meoblast001> ok i uncommited
[09:53] <meoblast001> its reporting missing data
[09:53] <meoblast001> i has a better idea
[09:56] <meoblast001> wgrant: i really messed this up
[09:56] <wgrant> meoblast001: #bzr people can generally help people out of a lot of bad situations.
[09:58] <meoblast001> wgrant: no one is answering
[09:58] <meoblast001> wgrant: whatif i purge bzr?
[09:58] <meoblast001> i just backed up my changes
[09:58] <meoblast001> to my desktop
[09:58] <meoblast001> bzr: ERROR: Target directory "xeiso" already exists.
[09:58] <meoblast001> it wont branch now
[09:58] <meoblast001> because i deleted xeiso
[09:59] <meoblast001> nvm
[09:59] <meoblast001> it cd'd me into the trash bin with it
[09:59] <meoblast001> didnt know that was possible
[11:48] <ephracis> Hey, I just recently moved my project to launchpad and imported my code from sourceforge. So now the trunk runs imports now and then, but I want to ditch sourceforge svn and only use bazaar on launchpad for hosting my code. How can I turn the svn import branch into a "normal" bazaar repo for my project?
[11:57] <intellectronica> ephracis: i think that you can't simply because that branch is owned by ~vcs-imports, and you'll want your main bzr branch to be owned by your team, so you'll probably have to get the imported branch and push it as yours
[11:57] <intellectronica> but i'm no expert - perhaps one of the code guys, like thumper or mwhudson would be able to give you a better answer
[11:58] <wgrant> ephracis: I'd such 'bzr branch'ing it locally, then just push it to somewhere that you can edit.
[11:59] <wgrant> Then set that as the main branch for your project, thus making the ~vcs-imports one like any other branch.
[13:02] <arnarl> hi, the staging test-server seems to submit to launchpad.net
[13:24] <wgrant> arnarl: Where?
[13:25] <arnarl> I tried to register a new project at staging.launchpad.net, and when I submitted it (twice because of an error in my data) it sent me to launchpad.net
[13:26] <arnarl> wgrant: there is a certain possiblity of pebcak
[13:26] <wgrant> It worked for me.
[13:26] <arnarl> I've closed the window so I don't have the history
[13:27] <arnarl> but I'm quite sure that I was redirected because I had the real launchpad.net window next to it
[13:27] <arnarl> and no submits there
[13:27] <arnarl> but not really a problem as I was going to registrer the project anyway
[13:28] <arnarl> The reason I tried the staging server was that I wondered about registering a metaproject
[13:29] <wgrant> You have to ask a Launchpad admin to register a project group.
[13:29] <arnarl> I can do that after the projects are created right?
[13:30] <arnarl> sub-projects
[13:33] <wgrant> Yes.
[13:33] <arnarl> great, thnx :-)
[14:36] <colbrac> Is it normal that galapagos needs multiple hours for the initial import of a small project from sf.net svn? (31 revs)?
[14:47] <meoblast001> hi
[14:48] <meoblast001> how would i link a project to my team?
[14:52] <persia> meoblast001: It's generally done by granting the team control over bugs on the project, and setting the project trunk branch to the team branch.
[14:53] <meoblast001> ?
[14:53] <persia> Erm.  I'm not able to break that down more: maybe someone else can help?
[14:55] <meoblast001> im new to launchpad
[14:55] <meoblast001> i found out how awesome it is when i did some work on Xeiso
[14:55] <meoblast001> im new to version control too
[15:00] <meoblast001> persia: ahh warning sign
[15:00] <meoblast001> https://code.launchpad.net/mox\
[15:00] <meoblast001> https://code.launchpad.net/mox
[15:01] <meoblast001> idk
[15:01] <meoblast001> im gonna mess with this i guess
[15:04] <Myrtti> hello
[15:04] <Myrtti> is this the right place to talk about login to wiki.ubuntu.com using openid from launchpad?
[15:04] <Myrtti> since - it don't work.
[15:05] <elmo> Myrtti: have you got javascript or cookies disabled?
[15:05] <Myrtti> not that I know of
[15:05] <Myrtti> I'm using epiphany and got weird error message in the wiki
[15:05] <elmo> what happens when you try to log in?
[15:06] <Myrtti> OpenID error: Nonce already used or out of range.
[15:06] <elmo> what's your LP ID?
[15:07] <Myrtti> unsurprisingly Myrtti
[15:10] <meoblast001> any idea what "bzr: ERROR: At bzr+ssh://meoblast@bazaar.launchpad.net/~mysticgalaxies/mox/devel you have a valid .bzr control directory, but not a branch or repository. This is an unsupported configuration. Please move the target directory out of the way and try again." might mean?
[15:14] <elmo> Myrtti: can you try logging into help.ubuntu.com, just out of interest?
[15:15]  * Myrtti rolls her thumbs
[15:16] <Myrtti> trying
[15:18] <Myrtti> still loading
[15:19] <Myrtti> I guess it's not going anywhere
[15:20] <meoblast001> any idea about that error?
[15:21] <Myrtti> Proxy Error
[15:21] <Myrtti> The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
[15:21] <Myrtti> The proxy server could not handle the request GET /community/.
[15:21] <Myrtti> 502 yay
[15:21] <elmo> Myrtti: according to the logs your browser is sending the same nonce repeatedly
[15:21] <elmo> Myrtti: can you try completely stopping/killing the browser, restarting and trying again?
[15:21] <Myrtti> wohoo.
[15:22] <Myrtti> sure, I'll reboot while I'm at it, compiz got flaky
[15:27] <meoblast001> Myrtti: "<Myrtti> Proxy Error" was that directed towards me or elmo?
[15:28] <elmo> meoblast001: me
[15:28] <Myrtti> that was fun
[15:28] <meoblast001> ok
[15:29] <Myrtti> when I launched the browser, I was logged in, I logged out and now I can't login with the openid again
[15:30]  * meoblast001 cant figure this out
[15:31] <meoblast001> bzr: ERROR: Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir()
[15:31] <meoblast001> =/
[15:35] <Myrtti> meoblast001: what about "bzr+ssh://meoblast@bazaar.launchpad.net/~mysticgalaxies/mox/devel mysticalgalaxies"
[15:35] <kiko> hey there
[15:36] <elmo> Myrtti: err, I can't see you logging in or out, on our logs.  are you sure you don't have a proxy in front of you?
[15:36] <meoblast001> Myrtii: bzr: ERROR: extra argument to command push: mysticgalaxies
[15:36] <Myrtti> oh.
[15:36] <Myrtti> elmo: again, not that I know of.
[15:37] <elmo> Myrtti: well, not being funny, but you might want to ask your ISP or whoever provides your net connection, because it looks very strongly like that's the case
[15:37] <elmo> Myrtti: at 15:31, I see you getting the /Myrtti page on the wiki, but I don't see any login/logout related requests hit our server _at all_ from you
[15:38] <Myrtti> ... and I spesifically cleared out my cookies, and logged in
[15:46] <Myrtti> Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g Server at wiki.ubuntu.com Port 443 | The proxy server could not handle the request GET /
[15:47] <Myrtti> AND according to my browser now I'm logged in. -______-
[15:47] <Myrtti> like. WTH?!
[15:47] <Myrtti> well, atleast to help.ubuntu.com
[15:48] <Myrtti> ok, getting confused, fetching coffee
[16:01] <Myrtti> yay. now I got Zero Sized Reply
[16:17] <Myrtti> yay! now it worked
[16:43] <VladimirMelo> hi there, anyone who works with rosetta around?
[16:50] <intellectronica> VladimirMelo: i don't think there's anyone around, but i can try to help, or you could ask your question on launchpad itself
[16:50] <jtv> VladimirMelo: hi, I'm here, though a bit busy
[17:03] <VladimirMelo> jtv: ok, thanks
[17:04] <jtv> VladimirMelo: go ahead?
[17:04] <VladimirMelo> jtv: I'm one of brazilian team administrators
[17:04] <VladimirMelo> jtv: and I have a question...
[17:05] <VladimirMelo> jtv: why rosetta don't have just the strings out of upstream catalogs?
[17:05] <VladimirMelo> doesnt*
[17:05] <jtv> VladimirMelo: you're saying there are more strings than in the original template?
[17:05] <jtv> VladimirMelo: I guess you're talking about Ubuntu translations?
[17:06] <VladimirMelo> jtv: i'm saying we should just translate the string which are not in upstream
[17:06] <jtv> VladimirMelo: like what you get when you select the "untranslated" filter, you mean?
[17:07] <VladimirMelo> jtv: yeah, but we gotta import all files to each release
[17:07] <jtv> VladimirMelo: ideally, that is exactly what should happen.  But sometimes something may need to be translated differently in Ubuntu, e.g. because of differences in terminology or other standards between upstream and Ubuntu
[17:08] <VladimirMelo> jtv: I understand, but I think rosetta should get a kind of diff to be translated, not the entire file
[17:09] <jtv> VladimirMelo: That's the "untranslated" filter.
[17:09] <jtv> VladimirMelo: it's also up to the translation teams to watch out for too many differences, and to inform their members about not creating unnecessary differences.
[17:11] <VladimirMelo> jtv: so, rosetta would merge the diff to upstream file...
[17:11] <VladimirMelo> jtv: yeah, but we're gonna import all over again each release, right?
[17:11] <jtv> VladimirMelo: we generally can't merge to upstream, because there are so many completely different upstreams!
[17:12] <jtv> VladimirMelo: we import again, but that updates and adds.  You don't actually lose anything.
[17:13] <VladimirMelo> jtv: I mean merge to files which are translated from upstream
[17:14] <jtv> VladimirMelo: who is "upstream" in this case?
[17:14] <VladimirMelo> jtv: gnome po files
[17:15] <VladimirMelo> jtv: rosett would show the patch strings and we would translate just them
[17:15] <jtv> VladimirMelo: one thing we're looking at is allowing you to e.g. export just the Ubuntu changes, and send those to the Gnome translators.
[17:15] <VladimirMelo> jtv: gnome po files+diff=ubuntu po files, right?
[17:15] <jtv> VladimirMelo: pretty much, yes.
[17:16] <VladimirMelo> jtv: and the other direction?
[17:16] <VladimirMelo> jtv: gnome > ubuntu
[17:17] <jtv> VladimirMelo: the Ubuntu people produce those translations and upload them to Launchpad.
[17:18] <VladimirMelo> jtv: but we want to get gnome strings and just complete the translations
[17:19] <jtv> VladimirMelo: I guess I still don't see what the problem is...  Isn't the "untranslated" filter what you want for that?
[17:19] <VladimirMelo> jtv: because brazilian ubuntu translators are also gnome translators
[17:20] <VladimirMelo> jtv: no, because we make some revisions between releases
[17:21] <VladimirMelo> jtv: and it's hard to work on gnome and ubuntu everytime
[17:22] <VladimirMelo> jtv: we want to bring gnome strings to ubuntu
[17:22] <Myrtti> ... doesn't launchpad pull translations from the previous release to the next?
[17:23] <jtv> Myrtti: yes, it does
[17:23] <VladimirMelo> Myrtti: we translators gotta confirm each string
[17:23] <jtv> VladimirMelo: but the problem is that it takes too long for the upstream updates to get into the Ubuntu translations, right?
[17:24] <VladimirMelo> jtv: yeah, you're right... gnome 2.24 is not at rosetta yet
[17:24] <VladimirMelo> I mean, translations
[17:24] <jtv> VladimirMelo: is that the version for Intrepid?
[17:25] <VladimirMelo> jtv: yep
[17:25] <VladimirMelo> jtv: and we will have to import xfce, gnome and kde POs
[17:26] <VladimirMelo> jtv: merging manually those that have different strings
[17:26] <VladimirMelo> jtv: it's hard to call translators to work with this, they think it's boring
[17:27] <VladimirMelo> and it is... :)
[17:27] <VladimirMelo> jtv: we gotta download the file, change it and upload
[17:27] <jtv> VladimirMelo: why not change it in the web UI?
[17:28] <VladimirMelo> jtv: because we have to check other strings and it's not easy to do it over launchpad
[17:29] <jtv> VladimirMelo: check them in what way?
[17:29] <VladimirMelo> jtv: e.g. 'delete' can be translated as 'excluir' or 'remover'... 'excluir' is the right one...
[17:30] <VladimirMelo> jtv: and we have to find the others 'delete' to fix it
[17:30] <jtv> VladimirMelo: if it's per PO file, do you know about the new search feature?
[17:30] <VladimirMelo> other 'delete's
[17:31] <VladimirMelo> jtv: yeas, this is a useful feature, but these fixes are many times already done in upstream
[17:31] <jtv> VladimirMelo: ...and you shouldn't have to do them again.
[17:32] <VladimirMelo> jtv: no?
[17:32] <VladimirMelo> jtv: what I should do?
[17:33] <jtv> VladimirMelo: what should happen is that the translation team checks the "changed in Launchpad" strings from time to time, and where it makes sense, re-unifies messages with the upstream ones.
[17:33] <jtv> VladimirMelo: so not entering/fixing them again, but saying "this message can use the same translation as upstream."
[17:33] <VladimirMelo> jtv: how they check?
[17:34] <jtv> VladimirMelo: a view filter: "items changed in Launchpad."
[17:34] <jtv> VladimirMelo: for those messages, the current upstream translation will show up as a suggestion marked "Packaged:"
[17:35] <VladimirMelo> jtv: I didn't know that
[17:35] <VladimirMelo> jtv: how long it takes to check upstream messages?
[17:36] <jtv> VladimirMelo: there's still the problem that it takes a long time to import the upstream files, of course.
[17:36] <jtv> VladimirMelo: to be honest I have no idea how long it takes; it would depend mainly on how many there are!
[17:37] <VladimirMelo> jtv: because we have one, maybe two months between gnome and ubuntu releases
[17:38] <jtv> VladimirMelo: so the import cycle is still the big problem...
[17:38] <VladimirMelo> jtv: we don't know how to check differences between them in so short time... and fix them
[17:38] <VladimirMelo> jtv: I see now what's the real trouble
[17:40] <VladimirMelo> jtv: thanks
[17:40] <jtv> VladimirMelo: it's also useful for me, so thank you.
[17:41] <VladimirMelo> jtv: ok, I'll try to work with these filters
[17:42] <jtv> VladimirMelo: it's not perfect, but I hope they help!
[17:42] <VladimirMelo> jtv: ok, thanks again
[18:58] <Rinchen>  
[18:58] <Rinchen> >> come join the LP dev meeting in #launchpad-meeting
[18:58] <Rinchen>  
[19:57] <Rinchen> updated meeting
[22:00] <stefanlsd> Can anyone help me what i should check with this - MD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive / Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification...
[22:01] <salgado> cprov, can you help stefanlsd?
[22:05] <cprov> stefanlsd: are you using the same orig.tar.gz ubuntu does ?
[22:05] <Whoopie> Hi, I have a PPA at launchpad. I'd be interested when older packages superceeded by newer uploads are deleted from the PPA. thank
[22:06] <cprov> Whoopie: yes, they are removed from the archive.
[22:06] <stefanlsd> cprov: it should be. I received the files from a grab-merge from merges.ubuntu.com
[22:06] <Whoopie> cprov: how long does it take? just curious
[22:06] <stefanlsd> cprov: gonna try reget them and compare md5's
[22:07] <cprov> Whoopie: immediately once there is no index referencing it.
[22:07] <stefanlsd> cprov: yeah, just got it again. they are identical...
[22:08] <cprov> Whoopie: 'referencing' as the orig being used by a newer version, for instance.
[22:08] <Whoopie> cprov: hmm, ok. because I built a new package and the older one is still there. It was 5 hours ago.
[22:09] <cprov> Whoopie: doesn't it use the same orig ?
[22:09] <Whoopie> it does
[22:10] <cprov> Whoopie: so.
[22:11] <stefanlsd> cprov: any ideas?
[22:11] <cprov> stefanlsd: 6f30d5907b75ef76809c19e0103d78f4a5fb027c 734954 python-xml_0.8.4.orig.tar.gz
[22:11] <cprov> stefanlsd: it's broken, see https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-xml/0.8.4-10ubuntu2
[22:12] <cprov> stefanlsd: specifically https://launchpadlibrarian.net/13278701/python-xml_0.8.4.orig.tar.gz
[22:13] <stefanlsd> cprov: I used a grab merge and it auto downloaded it and thats what
[22:13] <stefanlsd> i got. heh :)
[22:15] <stefanlsd> cprov: where does PPA generate its md5's from?   Not from merges.ubuntu.com?
[22:15] <cprov> stefanlsd: don't worry, just rebuild the source using the ubuntu orig, this way you save a 800k upload
[22:17] <cprov> stefanlsd: ehe, no, obviously not, it has directly access to the file uploaded to soyuz (in general)
[22:19] <cprov> stefanlsd: anyway, now you know how it works and how to fix your upload, right ?  I will be out for some minutes, let me know if I can help with anything else.
[22:20] <stefanlsd> cprov-afk: yeah. just gonna download orig.  anyway i can force ppa upload without doing a delete?
[22:21] <stefanlsd> mm. i deleted the _source.upload file... seems to be going again...
[22:21] <cprov-afk> stefanlsd: sorry, are you talking about the dput error ?
[22:22] <stefanlsd> cprov-afk: nodnod. dput was complaining...
[22:22] <cprov-afk> stefanlsd: your upload has failed, PPA has not trace about it whatsoever.
[22:22] <stefanlsd> cprov-afk: aah. ok. thanks. that makes sense.  Im trying to upload again. Thanks for your time and assistance
[22:22] <cprov-afk> stefanlsd: `dput -f xxx.changes` or remove the '.upload' file
[22:23] <cprov-afk> stefanlsd: np, you are welcome.
[22:24] <onox> why does the description not parse newlines anymore?
[22:26] <emgent> problem solved fake sync by doko
[22:26] <emgent>   * Fake sync (different .orig.tar.gz).