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Shadow__Xis anyone around00:53
tgm4883_laptopno00:56
DogBoyme neither00:56
Shadow__Xanyone know anything about ati issues00:57
tgm4883_laptopissues?01:07
Shadow__Xvery much so01:09
Shadow__Xmythtv frontend freaks out01:09
Shadow__Xbut i can watch all the recordings through samba01:10
darthanubisanyone can tell me if on  their box mythzmserver actually  makes itself a service after install?01:47
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foxbuntuany one here able to look at the revu system and see if my package is stuck?04:29
foxbuntuI would greatly appreciate the help04:29
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drbrownWhat could cause a windows MCE remote newer version to be very slow? keyboard navigation is snappy.  I am using an MSI Mega 651 w/ 512MB RAM for my hardware.04:50
drbrownit is a frontend only04:51
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darthanubisexit button works on the remote07:39
darthanubisbut escape and the exit button no longer gives the quit option07:39
darthanubisthats nuts07:39
darthanubishow deos this just happen?07:40
darthanubisIm really getting fed up with the inconsistency of this distro07:41
hadsUse something else?07:42
hadsGet a refund?07:43
tgm4883_laptop!refund07:47
ZinnFor your refund, please pm me your SSN, your bank account number, your birthday, your mothers maiden name, the credit card number that you wish your refund to go back to, your dogs name, your neighbors kids favorite movie, and a twix bar07:47
foxbuntudarthanubis, ever heard that doing something other than complaining usually accomplishes more08:35
lagadarthanubis: you probably configured mythfrontend not to act on escape (if you're referring to the key on your keyboard)11:34
liviurhello.....i'm having some problems using mythtv.....I wonder if you guys can help me11:53
liviur1.Not all my channels are listed when I press watch tv11:54
liviurin tvtime is no problem11:54
liviurwhen I press pause the sounds from tv it's still plaing....and when i release pause i have 2 sounds......1 from livetv and 1 from te recording of the pause11:56
liviursorry for my bad english11:56
lagayou need to configure your audio mixer correctly11:57
lagacheck the mythtv manual11:57
liviurmy tv card it's rather old12:02
liviurit's bt878 chipset12:02
liviurok12:02
liviuri'll try to configure my audio mixer12:02
liviurthx fot the tip12:02
MythbuntuGuest25Hello12:21
MythbuntuGuest25Anyone has a tip to listen to AC3 encoded movies over a 2CH stereo setup at a decent volume rate?12:23
MythbuntuGuest25AC3 movies sound really low, by default, when played in regular stereo12:23
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zymbayo, anyone out there?13:11
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NTolerancezymba: i've never had any luck with that, i think you're dealing with "home theater" DVD audio mastering where the explosions are really loud but the dialog is way too quiet14:39
darthanubisrefund? cute. use something else, I am, do more than complain, search launchpad for my bug reports14:48
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darthanubislaga, the esc key being configured, I checked that, it was still checked, I killed the frontend and restarted it, and it magically works now. I guess that will be blamed on my machine, which is a fresh install?14:49
lagaunless you can come up with a reproducable test case, a patch or something else.14:51
lagawe'd love to fix bugs without having any information, but it's just not possible.14:51
NTolerancelaga is right, you gotta reproduce the problem to fix it14:52
lagait could have been a foxus problem.14:54
lagasome menus will still work, some won't.14:54
jphillipdarthanubis there is an option to just quit somewhere, you prob checked it14:57
darthanubisI try my very best to hang in there and fix or get you guys the information you need to help me fix the issue. I'm mostly frustrated with my own inability to not be able to "code" to resolve these issues myself. I don't like to have to depend on anyone for anything. It a sense of helplessness that one tends to vent about @3am when trying to just exit their favorite application.14:59
darthanubisBut it is not like a I just sit around all day looking for reason to dump on my favorite distro.:/15:00
lagatrue15:00
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jphillippeople get moody, move on....15:15
jphillipdarthanubis when you get some time, throw an email together to me about your exact process of running mythexport, I thought about it after the last time we ran it and something didn't add up, I wanted to review the entire process you were using but can't recall what I thought might be wrong currently15:16
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AKJHi I'm trying to use mythbuntu for the first time and I have a few questions.15:44
AKJWhen I try to set up the live frontend i get past the first setup after inputting the password and ip etc but after it goes to the next screen when it wants it again it says cannot login to database.15:45
AKJAlso right before the screen it says something bout no upnp found.15:46
AKJAnyone have a solution?15:46
intx13"set up the live frontend" - you're using the LiveCD as a MythTV frontend to an existing backend?15:47
Shadow__Xalso AKJ if someone wont connect maybe something wont let it15:47
AKJI'm using the live cd for both.15:47
AKJI think.15:47
Shadow__Xsuch as mysql and mythtv only running on local host and not accepting connections15:48
Shadow__Xyou cant AKJ15:48
AKJic15:48
Shadow__Xonly lice cd for frontend15:48
Shadow__Xread the docs15:48
AKJSo how do I setup a backend then15:48
Shadow__Xthat should fully explain it15:48
intx13install it from the LiveCD15:48
Shadow__Xyou need to install15:48
AKJI read the installation manual15:48
intx13that will install a backend, frontend, or both15:48
AKJOh ic I have to install first.15:48
Shadow__Xyeah15:48
AKJI thought I could run everyhting from live15:48
Shadow__Xalso what video card do you have15:48
AKJCan i install to a usb?15:48
AKJhd365015:49
intx13You don't want to do that, AKJ :)15:49
AKJic15:49
AKJSo where the best place to install because I'm already runningvista15:49
AKJI want to keep that os there15:49
Shadow__Xdont run vista15:49
Shadow__X:D15:49
intx13if you're new to installing Ubuntu in general, I wouldn't recommend by starting with trying to dual-boot Mythbuntu and Vista15:49
intx13I agree with Shadow__X  :)15:50
Shadow__Xintx13, also how are you going to record anything if your running vista15:50
Shadow__Xi kinda feel like you are defeating the purpose of mythtv15:50
AKJI wouldnt be recoding in vista15:50
AKJvista is just there for other uses15:50
AKJI wanted to use mythbuntu for everything else15:50
Shadow__Xright but15:50
AKJSo i cant just setup a partition and install mythbuntu there?15:50
intx13*Technically*, *buntu does dual-boot setups pretty easily15:51
Shadow__Xthe purpose for the backend is to run mythv all the time or be its main os15:51
Shadow__XAKJ, yeah but you have to read how to setup ubuntu with vista15:51
AKJokay15:51
intx13Personally, this sounds like a very painful way to get into mythtv :)15:51
Shadow__Xyeah15:52
Shadow__Xalso15:52
AKJya the reason is that i dont have a spare computer15:52
Shadow__Xyou really want a dedicated box for mythtv15:52
AKJhopefully in the future. i was just using this one to play around with it and see if i could get it working15:52
intx13Well, are you familiar with installing Ubuntu in general, AKJ?15:52
AKJnot really15:52
intx13if not, you're going to spend more time trying to get Ubuntu to play nice with Vista than you will watching your shows.15:52
Shadow__Xthe docs are pretty good15:52
Shadow__Xwhat tuner card do you have15:53
AKJi was planning on setting up my stb with firewire15:53
AKJi have a 3250hd15:53
intx13welcome to a world of pain ;)15:53
Shadow__XAKJ, if you have read the docs15:53
AKJlol ya but ill take it one step at a time15:53
Shadow__Xthen you know not to "plan" to use firewire15:54
Shadow__Xyou need to test to see if it works15:54
AKJwell im trying to use what i have at home15:54
Shadow__Xand for what channels15:54
Shadow__Xwhere do you live15:54
AKJcanada15:54
Shadow__Xah15:54
AKJive read some guides to get it to work15:54
AKJppl in my area15:54
intx13Well the first step would be to BACK UP your docs from Vista.. cuz if you bork the Mythbuntu install (or it borks itself), they're gone.15:54
AKJand same box15:54
AKJso im hoping that will work fine.15:54
intx13I wouldn't worry about the firewire-STB stuff until you've gotten the hang of dual-booting *buntu and Vista15:55
AKJya15:55
AKJis anybody familiar with which driver in xorg config will work with the radeon hd 3650?15:56
Shadow__Xfglrx15:56
Shadow__Xi am15:56
intx13Dual-booting Mythbuntu with Vista... using an STB via firewire... and running an ATI graphics card.  Not exactly the most pleasant way to learn about MythTV.,15:57
Shadow__Xjust get aspare box or another hd15:59
AKJYa I'll see if i cant get it to work ill have to. though this is more of a summer project to see if it can work.15:59
AKJI tried the fglrx driver16:00
AKJand when i logged out it didnt work16:00
AKJit went to low power mode16:00
AKJand asked me to configure manually16:00
Shadow__Xhmmm16:00
Shadow__Xit works for me16:00
intx13But this is on the LiveCD... I don't know how well the LiveCD deals with restarting X with different drivers, etc.16:01
Shadow__Xit doesnt16:01
Shadow__Xesp for ati16:01
intx13well there you go then16:01
Shadow__Xthis guy16:01
Shadow__X:)16:01
Shadow__Xgo read mythtv docs then read mythbuntu docs reading is our friend16:02
intx13Wasn't there talk that since AMD bought ATI, they'd be releasing the specs to encourange open source drivers?  What ever happened with that?16:02
AKJokay so i guess first thing i need to do is get it isntalled16:02
AKJwell there actually are drivers for the card16:02
superm1Shadow__X, i didn't look yet, but did you add some feedback to that thread about things working for the N adapter?  the person who is going to be handling the GUI stuff wanted to see some confirmation that the manual process worked for someone before they put the GUI stuff in place16:02
AKJcatalyst control centre for linux16:02
Shadow__Xi can if you want superm1 it works fine i have been using it16:03
intx13AKJ, yes, focus on getting it installed (even if it's just with VGA graphics) alongside Vista, so that you can dual boot.  Then worry about getting the ATI card working... then worry about MythTV and your STB.16:03
Shadow__Xalthough not at n peeds16:03
superm1Shadow__X, yes please16:03
Shadow__X\yup16:04
AKJsorry to seem so needy but can anyone direct to a guide to dual boot vista and mythbuntu16:07
AKJI'm looking but there doesnt seem to be too much on it16:08
Shadow__Xgoogle?16:08
intx13there's tons on it!  First hit on google for "dual boot vista ubuntu" looks good16:08
AKJnvm16:08
AKJtheres not too muc there16:08
AKJfound more stuff dual booting with xp16:09
AKJshould be same thing16:09
intx13*might* be the same thing.. Vista is funky16:09
intx13uh that first google hit I pointed you to has tons of info and a walk-through of the install... its for ubuntu, not mythbuntu, but it's the same dealy16:10
Shadow__Xno its not vista is diff16:10
intx13http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first.htm16:10
intx13"Here's how to install Vista and Linux (with Vista installed first). Step-by-step instructions that assume no knowledge of Linux. (Now updated for Ubuntu 8.04 and Vista SP1)."16:10
Shadow__Xsounds like AKJ16:11
Shadow__X:)16:11
AKJthanks a lot16:11
intx13I'm going to write my own guide: "step one: throw your vista-laden computer in the trash, it is forever tainted and worthless.  step 2: buy new computer.  step 3: install ubuntu."16:12
Shadow__Xsounds better16:12
Shadow__Xintx13, but you dont want all the idiots moving over to linux16:12
Shadow__Xthat will taint it16:12
Shadow__Xleave them at mac and windows16:12
intx13hmm i wouldn't say it would taint it, it would just pollute the lists with more trivial questions - Macs are the way to go for people not ready for Linux, imo16:13
AKJinterestingly i followed that route16:14
NToleranceShadow__X: so after a short BRB, did you say that the HVR1800 is the win?  something about analog is no good on the HVR125016:14
AKJdual booth mac16:14
Shadow__Xyeah but with mass useage it will deteriate it16:14
AKJthis is triple boot now16:14
AKJlol may not be too smart16:14
intx13nah mass usage forces the devs to design for the newbies as well as the experts, which is a good thing!16:14
AKJanywayz thx a lot everone im off to do an install and mroe reading16:14
Shadow__XNTolerance, analog on the hvr 1250 is a frame graber = bad16:14
intx13good luck, AKJ!16:14
Shadow__Xify ou arent going to record analog its fine16:15
NTolerancei could just use my MCE-150 for analog16:15
AKJthx16:15
Shadow__Xif you plan to eventually use the hvr 1800 i have one analog works in linux but not in mythtv yet16:15
NTolerancei'm mainly wanting it for the digital stuffs....16:15
Shadow__Xwell then its upto you16:15
Shadow__Xthe 1800 has analog and digital and you can use both at the same time16:16
Shadow__Xthe 1250 can only use one at a time16:16
NTolerancei need to talk to someone who has time warner cable and one of these QAM cards16:16
NTolerancesee how many channels they can tune16:16
Shadow__Xwell get the hvr 1600 then16:17
NToleranceneed any fancy video hardware/settings to play back HD MPEG2?16:17
Shadow__X1600 has support for both in mythtv16:17
NTolerance1600 is PCI, i'm out of PCI slots16:17
Shadow__Xah ok16:17
NTolerancei'm running an intel X3100 for my video16:17
Shadow__Xi have a integrated geforce 6150 that works16:17
Shadow__Xthat should work16:17
Shadow__Xwhats your cpu16:17
NToleranceone thing that was interesting is i had to disable the openGL vsync option in mythtv, otherwise playback was real choppy16:17
NTolerancePentium 218016:18
NTolerance2.0Ghz16:18
Shadow__Xhmm16:18
Shadow__Xmaybe an issue with hd16:18
Shadow__Xjust try it16:18
NTolerancefor serios?  my cpu is pretty good, it's basically a low end core2duo16:18
Shadow__Xif it does you can just upgrade the cpu16:18
Shadow__Xyeah well real low end c2d i have heard have issues16:18
Shadow__Xbut i guess it dpeends on setup16:19
Shadow__Xyou will see when you try16:19
NToleranceneed to get some test files, MPEG2 and MPEG416:19
Shadow__Xor just do it16:19
Shadow__X:D16:19
NTolerancejust do it = fail for sure16:19
NTolerancemust test16:19
Shadow__Xnope you wont fail16:19
NTolerancemurphy?16:19
Shadow__Xfailing isnt an option16:19
NTolerancea month ago my mythbox was running a duron 1.616:20
Shadow__Xwell NTolerance you record hd you dont need anything16:27
Shadow__X:D16:27
NTolerance?16:29
Shadow__Xyou can record hd on that duron16:29
NTolerancesure, but playback?16:29
Shadow__Xfail16:30
NToleranceyeah16:30
NTolerancei know mpeg4 HD takes a lot of CPU, but doesn't mpeg2 take less ?16:30
Shadow__Xhmm i guess i dont really know i have heard that mpeg2 gets helped16:30
Shadow__Xbut i dont know if i have heard wrong16:30
NTolerancehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5536153&postcount=416:36
Shadow__Xhmm so you can expect like 40-50 percent16:37
Shadow__Xor maybe higher16:37
Shadow__Xdont you have slower fsb and less cache16:37
NTolerancesounds good to me16:37
NTolerance800Mhz FSB16:38
Shadow__Xyeah16:38
Shadow__X2mb cache?16:38
NTolerance1MB cache versus 2MB cache on the c2d16:38
Shadow__Xi thought c2d had 4mb16:38
NTolerancesome have 2MB, some have 4MB16:39
NTolerancehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_2_microprocessors16:39
Shadow__Xah ok16:39
Shadow__Xi like 4mb16:39
Shadow__Xi was thinking about making my quad core a be as well16:39
NToleranceapparently mplayer is best for MKV files, and that's good because that's what i use in mythtv16:41
Shadow__Xah16:43
NToleranceknow any place that has 720p MKV samples or trailers?16:43
Shadow__Xnope16:44
NTolerancei think samsung had them at one point16:44
Shadow__Xi dont know of any  place that really has mkv16:44
Shadow__Xhttp://www.matroska.org/samples/matrix/index.html16:51
Shadow__Xhttp://www.google.com/search?q=mkv+samples&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a16:52
NTolerancecool, ty16:52
Shadow__Xmhm16:53
Shadow__Xthere is a 720p sample there16:53
Shadow__Xi just didnt want to link it16:53
Shadow__Xhey superm1 are you here16:58
Shadow__Xi have reason to beleive if you update with your method to get broadcom working16:59
Shadow__Xit messes with the ati drivers16:59
superm1Shadow__X, why is that?16:59
superm1or better off; what's your reasoning16:59
Shadow__Xbecause i cant get xv to work i have been having issues since yesterday16:59
Shadow__Xright now i am going to install the drivers from ati's side17:00
Shadow__Xsite*17:00
superm1didn't we go through this yesterday?17:00
Shadow__Xyeah but it didnt come out working17:00
Shadow__Xmy plan was to get xvworking17:01
superm1it seemed that there were bugs in the ati drivers with your card and texturedvideo i thought17:01
Shadow__Xyeah17:02
superm1but i'm not sure what the connection to the broadcom driver is to that17:02
Shadow__Xthere sint a connection to the broadcom dirver17:04
superm1<Shadow__X> i have reason to beleive if you update with your method to get broadcom working17:05
superm1<Shadow__X> it messes with the ati drivers17:05
superm1?17:05
Shadow__Xwell17:05
Shadow__Xi think i figured it out17:05
Shadow__Xyou have to install sudo apt-get install build-essential cdbs fakeroot dh-make debhelper debconf libstdc++5 dkms linux-headers-$(uname -r)17:08
Shadow__Xthen the fglrx driver fully installs17:08
Shadow__Xwhen using the updated kernel17:08
Shadow__Xxvinfo and fglrx are correct17:09
Shadow__Xnow17:09
superm1that is supposed to all automatically happen actually when you install the fglrx driver17:10
Shadow__Xyeah it didnt when i installed from restricted though17:10
superm1yeah its not needed in the restricted version17:10
superm1the one from the website actually builds debs17:10
Shadow__Xhmm the driver wasnt working17:10
Shadow__Xi didnt install fromt site17:10
superm1and all those pieces are around to build the debs17:10
Shadow__Xi was about to but stopped17:10
MythbuntuGuest02building diskless usb and get the following error when writing image. error detecting NBD server port Make sure /etc/inetd.conf is up to date.17:11
Shadow__Xhow exactly do you build diskless usb17:11
superm1laga, ^ look at MythbuntuGuest02's stuff17:11
superm1MythbuntuGuest02, if you stick around for a bit, laga is the one to ask about things with diskless breaking17:11
MythbuntuGuest02tftp           dgram   udp     wait    root  /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot17:11
MythbuntuGuest02ok17:11
Shadow__Xhey superm1 i now have an issue17:17
Shadow__Xlol17:17
Shadow__Xxv works in mplayer17:17
Shadow__Xbut when i fire up mythtvfront end17:18
Shadow__Xit splits the screen in half and gives me garbled screen on both sides17:18
Shadow__Xsound like anything that you have heard of before17:20
superm1yes17:20
Shadow__Xah17:21
Shadow__Xgreat17:21
Shadow__Xwhat is that17:21
Shadow__Xlol17:21
superm1oh you want a solution too?17:21
superm1:)17:21
Shadow__Xso i could just you know17:21
Shadow__Xoh17:21
Shadow__Xgreat17:21
Shadow__Xwell can i know whats causing that17:21
Shadow__Xi wouldnt mind learning why its doing that17:21
superm1i've just heard of it actually17:21
superm1i havent seen it or heard ta root cause17:21
superm1http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10940&page=317:21
superm1x1400 right?17:22
superm1force mythtv to 1680x1024 or 1680x108017:22
Shadow__Xyeah17:23
Shadow__Xhmm17:23
Shadow__Xwhats the command to run mythtv in a windows17:23
Shadow__Xi can do 1280x102417:23
Shadow__Xi really dont want full screen i was a smaller windows17:23
superm1well running in a window might not solve it17:24
superm1but all those settings are in mythfrontend17:24
Shadow__Xmythfrontend -w geometry 1680x1080?17:25
NToleranceany of you guys got the totem mythtv plugin working?17:25
NTolerancei enabled it but i get database timeout errors17:25
Shadow__Xit works for me NTolerance17:25
Shadow__Xmake sure you went into gconf-editor and made the right corrections17:26
NTolerancesure did17:26
NTolerancei know i have the right IP, username, password, etc17:26
Shadow__Xhmm17:26
NTolerancei tried changing the port that's in there to the default mysql port17:26
NToleranceno difference17:26
Shadow__Xit works for me17:26
NToleranceyou'd think i would get "permission denied" if my credentials were wrong17:26
NTolerancedo you have to enable remote database connections in the mythtv database?17:26
Shadow__Xyes17:27
Shadow__Xlol17:27
NTolerancecommand line or mythtv setup gui?17:27
Shadow__Xyou have to have it so a front end can connect17:27
Shadow__XNTolerance, in setup gui the first part has to dow ith that kind of stuff17:27
Shadow__Xbut if you are running mythbuntu there is something else17:27
Shadow__Xyou have to get mysql to listen on your nic17:27
NToleranceyeah, mythbuntu of course17:28
superm1Shadow__X, more permanently you want to make sure that those settings are set in mythfrontend after it's running17:28
superm1rather than command line17:28
superm1in the appearance section17:28
Shadow__Xah ok17:28
Shadow__Xand opengl helps the matter but mythtv doesnt function right using opengl17:29
NTolerancehow important is the opengl vsync option?  my vidcard can't seem to handle it17:30
Shadow__Xthen dont use it17:30
NToleranceyeah, i turned it off, just curious as to why it's on by default17:30
superm1NTolerance, you will probably want to modify the settings in nvidia-settings for vertical sync etc17:30
NTolerancei'm using an intel x3100, but i restored a database from my old system which had an nvidia fx520017:31
superm1ah17:32
superm1opengl vsync only works on nvidia17:32
NToleranceprovocative17:32
Shadow__Xsuperm1, on the last post on the first page17:33
Shadow__Xthats exactly how it looks17:33
superm1Shadow__X, well did you try changing your resolution around17:39
superm1like not just myth resolution but screen resolution17:39
superm1in the amd control centre thing17:39
NTolerancesuperm1: you use time warner cable?17:40
Shadow__Xhmm i will try that superm117:43
Shadow__Xthe artifacting gets worse at 1600x120017:45
superm1NTolerance, yeah17:50
bartmonhi! I have a quick question - how much disk space does a frontend install of mythbuntu need? thanks!17:50
superm1Shadow__X, well experiment a bit with some other resolutions that are close if you cna17:50
Shadow__Xi did17:51
Shadow__X:(17:51
Shadow__Xworse corruption17:51
NTolerancesuperm1: do you plug your coax from the wall straight into a QAM tuner card or are you doing firewire/IR blaster from the STB?17:52
NTolerancebartmon: 2GB is the min requirement17:53
NTolerance10GB recommended17:53
bartmondang17:53
superm1NTolerance, well i have multiple QAM tuners as well as firewire from the STB17:54
superm1but i've stopped using the firewire since i get so few channels on it17:54
Shadow__Xsuperm1, i can make the corruption go away using opengl BUT then when i hit enter to watch tv it hangs17:54
Shadow__Xcertain menus just hang17:54
Shadow__Xand i can do anything17:54
NTolerancei'm planning on getting a HVR1800 to tune QAM channels straight from the wall coax, how many channels do you think i can pick up w/ that, i will be using digital only, no analog17:54
superm1Shadow__X, do you happen to have two monitors plugged in?17:54
Shadow__Xno17:54
superm1Shadow__X, or anything in your xorg.conf related to virtual desktop sizing?17:55
Shadow__Xjjust the laptop screen17:55
superm1well does running mythtv in a windowed mode maybe help?17:55
superm1or turning off compiz first17:55
Shadow__Xcompiz has been off17:55
bartmonI'm buying a CF card as a hard drive replacement and if it doesn't work well for mythbuntu then i'll reuse it for a dedicated NAS box. That needs very little space so i'm trying to buy as cheaply as possible17:55
superm1bartmon, well it's actually closer to a gig17:55
superm1but 2 gigs is the minimum size card you should have17:56
superm1to leave wiggle room for updating and such17:56
bartmonoh17:56
Shadow__Xsuperm1, would you like me to post my current xorg17:56
superm1Shadow__X, if you didnt modify that part yourself, it wouldnt have been present17:56
bartmonexcellent! cause shops don't really have small capacities anymore, anything below 2GB isn't in stock.17:57
Shadow__Xi do have vnc running17:57
Shadow__Xcould that mess it up17:57
Shadow__Xother than that nothing virtual17:57
superm1bartmon, if 4gigs is affordable (usually they come 2,4,8,16 etc)17:57
superm1you would be safer with that17:58
superm1otherwise you'll just have to be careful17:58
bartmonwel if mythbuntu works out, i'll get one with 8GB capacity. I just need the smallest it needs for testing17:59
Shadow__Xsuperm1, in opengl the menus have slow transitions18:00
Shadow__Xand when i try to goto lets say system status it just stays at the menu where i hit enter18:00
Shadow__Xbut if i login through vnc i can see the actually system status18:00
Shadow__Xdoes that makes sense18:00
superm1bartmon, well just for testing, 2 gigs should suffice, but i'd say18:01
superm1go with a hard drive for now in that box, just for testing18:01
superm1dont waste the money on a CF card if its just testing18:01
NTolerancesuperm1: any idea on my TW cable question?18:02
superm1NTolerance, it depends on how nice TW is in your area18:02
superm1for me it's just locals that i normally would get OTA18:02
NToleranceraleigh, nc18:02
superm1when i lived in raleigh, i just used firewire with them18:03
superm1so can't comment too much unfortunately18:03
NToleranceok, so might as well just use an OTA antenna, same result huh?18:03
NTolerancemaybe less compression w/ OTA?18:03
Shadow__XNTolerance, TRY QAM18:03
Shadow__Xlol18:04
superm1NTolerance, well i don't know what the current situation is with them out there. but you should be guaranteed at least locals18:04
superm1QAM is a bit more reliable, especially during hurricane season18:05
Shadow__Xyes18:05
Shadow__Xalso no antennaes18:05
NToleranceok, i'll give it a shot, this makes me want to get the low-end HVR1250 though, no point in going dual tuners if you only get a handful of channels18:05
Shadow__Xsuperm1, i have read good things about using the xorg libs instead of atis18:05
Shadow__Xhow can i go about that18:05
superm1NTolerance, best thing you can do is try and find a card to "rent" at BB or something18:05
superm1NTolerance, and see what stations you get18:05
NToleranceheh, good call18:05
superm1bring it back within 30 days18:06
Shadow__Xheh18:06
superm1and then you'll know what to do18:06
NTolerancebut that's just wrong, i never would say, rent an LCD monitor for a weekend LAN party18:06
NTolerance:DS18:06
Shadow__Xwhy not18:06
Shadow__Xthat sounds good18:06
superm1NTolerance, having worked there in the past for a while, i fully endorse their rental policies18:07
Shadow__Xstupid graphics corruption18:07
NTolerancesarcasm18:07
Shadow__Xif it freaking worked now i can watch shows18:07
NTolerancei was just kidding, i full endorse such behavior18:07
superm1good :)18:07
superm1Shadow__X, you shouldn't be switching libraries around like that18:08
NTolerancemy 21" CRT is just too much for a LAN party, it weighs like 70lbs18:08
superm1Shadow__X, the ati libraries add a bunch of ati specific extensions18:08
NToleranceso i rent LCDs18:08
NToleranceis anyone making PCI-E QAM tuners other than hauppauge?18:08
Shadow__Xhmm then i dont know superm1 what other programs should i try or anythign18:09
lagaMythbuntuGuest02: still there?18:09
Shadow__XNTolerance, i just got totem working again with mythtv recordings18:11
Shadow__Xare you able to have frontends conect to the backend?18:11
Shadow__Xhey superm1 totem working is better than nothing for now18:12
Shadow__Xdoes anyone know something else that i can use to watch my recordings with18:13
Shadow__Xtotem is fine i just can skip or search18:13
bartmonmplayer?18:14
Shadow__Xi want the data info though18:14
Shadow__Xand be able to skip commericlas18:14
superm1mythtvfs18:14
superm1skip commercials, only myth18:14
Shadow__Xhmm18:14
Shadow__Xmythtv player does it on windows :D18:15
bartmonwhat do you mean by dta info?18:15
Shadow__Xlike recording name18:15
Shadow__Xand all that18:15
bartmonoh18:15
Shadow__Xhmm18:17
Shadow__Xtotem is a good spep though i have to say18:18
bartmonit's weird that totem doesn't let you seek18:19
bartmondo you want to see the file info in an OSD manner?18:19
Shadow__Xtotem doesnt let me skeep because it seems as if when totem streams it only streams the imamge18:19
Shadow__Xand doesnt get all the info18:19
bartmonoh, you're streaming your stuff from a network...18:21
Shadow__Xyeah18:22
Shadow__X:D18:22
Shadow__Xthe purpose of all of this was for me to beable to watch my shows on my laotp while i wasnt infront of a tv18:23
Shadow__Xeh i guess i can just watch em over samba at this point18:26
Shadow__Xi just want eventually to beable to use mythtv frontend18:26
Shadow__Xhey superm1 is there a way i can know what each recording is using mythweb?18:28
superm1yes18:29
Shadow__Xhow would that be if you dont mind18:29
superm1Shadow__X, if you just just go to the recordings tab of mythweb18:37
superm1there are 3 buttons or so18:37
superm1one of them is an asx stream wrapper that will open in totem18:37
superm1one is the file itself18:37
superm1and one is to watch it in the flash player18:37
Shadow__Xright18:37
Shadow__Xthe asx streamer then18:38
Shadow__X?18:38
Shadow__Xi had a video oepn18:40
Shadow__Xi oepened another when then i got spit into command line18:41
Shadow__X:(18:41
MythbuntuGuest02laga still here19:00
bartmonwell if you're streming stuff via asx then no wonder - asx doesn't support seeking :719:01
bartmon:/19:01
Shadow__Xbartmon,19:01
Shadow__Xi was using totem mythtv plugin19:02
MythbuntuGuest02laga,  got  meeting,  be back in an hour.19:02
Shadow__Xbbl19:27
MythbuntuGuest02laga,  im back19:56
lagabrb20:05
lagaMythbuntuGuest02: okay, what's the problem?20:27
MythbuntuGuest02get the following errors when writing to usb, make sure /etc/inetd.conf is up to date20:30
MythbuntuGuest02error detecting NBD server port20:30
lagaokay, can you pastebin your inetd.conf?20:31
MythbuntuGuest02ok20:33
MythbuntuGuest02http://pastebin.com/m15bde59320:34
lagayeah, that's what i expected... did you create an image in the control centre?20:35
MythbuntuGuest02yes20:37
lagai'm afraid that didn't work then. that's a known bug, a fix will be released shortly.20:38
lagain the meantime, you can do it manually20:38
lagaum20:38
lagayou're lucky, i'm currently setting it up manually, too20:39
laga;)20:39
MythbuntuGuest02nice20:39
lagawhat architecture do you want? amd64 or i386?20:39
MythbuntuGuest02i38620:39
lagahttp://pastebin.ca/109500520:42
lagahad to put it in a pastebin because i was inside a virtual machine20:42
lagathat's going to take a while, but i guess you already know that ;)20:43
MythbuntuGuest02it is running now20:45
lagai should have timed mine20:45
lagayay for competition20:45
MythbuntuGuest02just finished building21:16
lagadamn21:16
lagait's still running mksquashfs here ;)21:16
lagacan you try again to make the usb stick?21:17
MythbuntuGuest02I will21:17
MythbuntuGuest02I get the same error when writing the file from control center21:19
lagahas inetd.conf changed?21:20
MythbuntuGuest02it is the same21:21
lagahrmpf21:22
lagadoes /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img exist?21:22
MythbuntuGuest02-rwxr--r-- 1 root root 423M 2008-08-07 15:14 /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img21:23
lagawell, that looks sane.21:23
lagado you still have the last lines of the terminal output of ltsp-build-client?21:24
MythbuntuGuest02laga http://pastebin.ca/109503921:28
laga#21:29
lagadebconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another p21:29
laga#21:29
lagarocess: Resource temporarily unavailable21:29
lagawell, that's why it didn't work21:29
lagaoops21:29
lagado you have a package management tool running?21:29
MythbuntuGuest02no21:29
MythbuntuGuest02not that I know of21:29
lagaokay. then the proper line to fix inetd.conf would be21:30
lagasudo update-inetd --group LTSP --add "2000               stream  tcp nowait  nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdrootd /opt/ltsp/image/i386.img"21:31
Shadow__Xhello everyone21:32
MythbuntuGuest02debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable21:32
lagahi Shadow__X21:32
lagaMythbuntuGuest02: okay, what does21:32
lagalsof | grep /var/cache/debconf/config.dat21:33
lagareturn?21:33
MythbuntuGuest02nothing21:34
Shadow__Xi think it was better to get totem to get working21:34
Shadow__Xthis way i can use play and pause on the front on my laptop'21:34
lagaMythbuntuGuest02: hum. i wonder how to fix that21:39
lagaMythbuntuGuest02: do you still have the control centre running?21:39
MythbuntuGuest02it was21:45
MythbuntuGuest02I rebooted the box and ran sudo update-inetd --group LTSP --add "2000               stream  tcp nowait  nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdrootd /opt/ltsp/image/i386.img"21:46
MythbuntuGuest02it cam back ok21:46
MythbuntuGuest02rebuilding the image again21:46
laganice21:48
lagano need to rebuild the image, but i guess it's too late21:48
Shadow__Xhey superm122:49
superm1hey22:49
Shadow__Xin active  connection information where it says speed22:49
Shadow__Xit says22:49
Shadow__X14 Mb/s22:49
Shadow__Xbut is that right22:49
superm1that's the current speed its operating at22:50
superm1based on signal strength and noise22:50
superm1etc22:50
Shadow__Xi downloaded off a local computer and it hit 4MB/sec22:50
superm1what you mean off a local computer?22:50
superm1you mean on the network?22:50
superm1if so, then that sounds like you got a pretty good speed22:51
superm1that would be 32Mb/s22:51
superm1Shadow__X, well i gotta go.  don' forget to respond to that thread :)22:54
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