[00:53] <Shadow__X> is anyone around
[00:56] <tgm4883_laptop> no
[00:56] <DogBoy> me neither
[00:57] <Shadow__X> anyone know anything about ati issues
[01:07] <tgm4883_laptop> issues?
[01:09] <Shadow__X> very much so
[01:09] <Shadow__X> mythtv frontend freaks out
[01:10] <Shadow__X> but i can watch all the recordings through samba
[01:47] <darthanubis> anyone can tell me if on  their box mythzmserver actually  makes itself a service after install?
[04:29] <foxbuntu> any one here able to look at the revu system and see if my package is stuck?
[04:29] <foxbuntu> I would greatly appreciate the help
[04:50] <drbrown> What could cause a windows MCE remote newer version to be very slow? keyboard navigation is snappy.  I am using an MSI Mega 651 w/ 512MB RAM for my hardware.
[04:51] <drbrown> it is a frontend only
[07:39] <darthanubis> exit button works on the remote
[07:39] <darthanubis> but escape and the exit button no longer gives the quit option
[07:39] <darthanubis> thats nuts
[07:40] <darthanubis> how deos this just happen?
[07:41] <darthanubis> Im really getting fed up with the inconsistency of this distro
[07:42] <hads> Use something else?
[07:43] <hads> Get a refund?
[07:47] <tgm4883_laptop> !refund
[07:47] <Zinn> For your refund, please pm me your SSN, your bank account number, your birthday, your mothers maiden name, the credit card number that you wish your refund to go back to, your dogs name, your neighbors kids favorite movie, and a twix bar
[08:35] <foxbuntu> darthanubis, ever heard that doing something other than complaining usually accomplishes more
[11:34] <laga> darthanubis: you probably configured mythfrontend not to act on escape (if you're referring to the key on your keyboard)
[11:53] <liviur> hello.....i'm having some problems using mythtv.....I wonder if you guys can help me
[11:54] <liviur> 1.Not all my channels are listed when I press watch tv
[11:54] <liviur> in tvtime is no problem
[11:56] <liviur> when I press pause the sounds from tv it's still plaing....and when i release pause i have 2 sounds......1 from livetv and 1 from te recording of the pause
[11:56] <liviur> sorry for my bad english
[11:57] <laga> you need to configure your audio mixer correctly
[11:57] <laga> check the mythtv manual
[12:02] <liviur> my tv card it's rather old
[12:02] <liviur> it's bt878 chipset
[12:02] <liviur> ok
[12:02] <liviur> i'll try to configure my audio mixer
[12:02] <liviur> thx fot the tip
[12:21] <MythbuntuGuest25> Hello
[12:23] <MythbuntuGuest25> Anyone has a tip to listen to AC3 encoded movies over a 2CH stereo setup at a decent volume rate?
[12:23] <MythbuntuGuest25> AC3 movies sound really low, by default, when played in regular stereo
[13:11] <zymba> yo, anyone out there?
[14:39] <NTolerance> zymba: i've never had any luck with that, i think you're dealing with "home theater" DVD audio mastering where the explosions are really loud but the dialog is way too quiet
[14:48] <darthanubis> refund? cute. use something else, I am, do more than complain, search launchpad for my bug reports
[14:49] <darthanubis> laga, the esc key being configured, I checked that, it was still checked, I killed the frontend and restarted it, and it magically works now. I guess that will be blamed on my machine, which is a fresh install?
[14:51] <laga> unless you can come up with a reproducable test case, a patch or something else.
[14:51] <laga> we'd love to fix bugs without having any information, but it's just not possible.
[14:52] <NTolerance> laga is right, you gotta reproduce the problem to fix it
[14:54] <laga> it could have been a foxus problem.
[14:54] <laga> some menus will still work, some won't.
[14:57] <jphillip> darthanubis there is an option to just quit somewhere, you prob checked it
[14:59] <darthanubis> I try my very best to hang in there and fix or get you guys the information you need to help me fix the issue. I'm mostly frustrated with my own inability to not be able to "code" to resolve these issues myself. I don't like to have to depend on anyone for anything. It a sense of helplessness that one tends to vent about @3am when trying to just exit their favorite application.
[15:00] <darthanubis> But it is not like a I just sit around all day looking for reason to dump on my favorite distro.:/
[15:00] <laga> true
[15:15] <jphillip> people get moody, move on....
[15:16] <jphillip> darthanubis when you get some time, throw an email together to me about your exact process of running mythexport, I thought about it after the last time we ran it and something didn't add up, I wanted to review the entire process you were using but can't recall what I thought might be wrong currently
[15:44] <AKJ> Hi I'm trying to use mythbuntu for the first time and I have a few questions.
[15:45] <AKJ> When I try to set up the live frontend i get past the first setup after inputting the password and ip etc but after it goes to the next screen when it wants it again it says cannot login to database.
[15:46] <AKJ> Also right before the screen it says something bout no upnp found.
[15:46] <AKJ> Anyone have a solution?
[15:47] <intx13> "set up the live frontend" - you're using the LiveCD as a MythTV frontend to an existing backend?
[15:47] <Shadow__X> also AKJ if someone wont connect maybe something wont let it
[15:47] <AKJ> I'm using the live cd for both.
[15:47] <AKJ> I think.
[15:48] <Shadow__X> such as mysql and mythtv only running on local host and not accepting connections
[15:48] <Shadow__X> you cant AKJ
[15:48] <AKJ> ic
[15:48] <Shadow__X> only lice cd for frontend
[15:48] <Shadow__X> read the docs
[15:48] <AKJ> So how do I setup a backend then
[15:48] <Shadow__X> that should fully explain it
[15:48] <intx13> install it from the LiveCD
[15:48] <Shadow__X> you need to install
[15:48] <AKJ> I read the installation manual
[15:48] <intx13> that will install a backend, frontend, or both
[15:48] <AKJ> Oh ic I have to install first.
[15:48] <Shadow__X> yeah
[15:48] <AKJ> I thought I could run everyhting from live
[15:48] <Shadow__X> also what video card do you have
[15:48] <AKJ> Can i install to a usb?
[15:49] <AKJ> hd3650
[15:49] <intx13> You don't want to do that, AKJ :)
[15:49] <AKJ> ic
[15:49] <AKJ> So where the best place to install because I'm already runningvista
[15:49] <AKJ> I want to keep that os there
[15:49] <Shadow__X> dont run vista
[15:49] <Shadow__X> :D
[15:49] <intx13> if you're new to installing Ubuntu in general, I wouldn't recommend by starting with trying to dual-boot Mythbuntu and Vista
[15:50] <intx13> I agree with Shadow__X  :)
[15:50] <Shadow__X> intx13, also how are you going to record anything if your running vista
[15:50] <Shadow__X> i kinda feel like you are defeating the purpose of mythtv
[15:50] <AKJ> I wouldnt be recoding in vista
[15:50] <AKJ> vista is just there for other uses
[15:50] <AKJ> I wanted to use mythbuntu for everything else
[15:50] <Shadow__X> right but
[15:50] <AKJ> So i cant just setup a partition and install mythbuntu there?
[15:51] <intx13> *Technically*, *buntu does dual-boot setups pretty easily
[15:51] <Shadow__X> the purpose for the backend is to run mythv all the time or be its main os
[15:51] <Shadow__X> AKJ, yeah but you have to read how to setup ubuntu with vista
[15:51] <AKJ> okay
[15:51] <intx13> Personally, this sounds like a very painful way to get into mythtv :)
[15:52] <Shadow__X> yeah
[15:52] <Shadow__X> also
[15:52] <AKJ> ya the reason is that i dont have a spare computer
[15:52] <Shadow__X> you really want a dedicated box for mythtv
[15:52] <AKJ> hopefully in the future. i was just using this one to play around with it and see if i could get it working
[15:52] <intx13> Well, are you familiar with installing Ubuntu in general, AKJ?
[15:52] <AKJ> not really
[15:52] <intx13> if not, you're going to spend more time trying to get Ubuntu to play nice with Vista than you will watching your shows.
[15:52] <Shadow__X> the docs are pretty good
[15:53] <Shadow__X> what tuner card do you have
[15:53] <AKJ> i was planning on setting up my stb with firewire
[15:53] <AKJ> i have a 3250hd
[15:53] <intx13> welcome to a world of pain ;)
[15:53] <Shadow__X> AKJ, if you have read the docs
[15:53] <AKJ> lol ya but ill take it one step at a time
[15:54] <Shadow__X> then you know not to "plan" to use firewire
[15:54] <Shadow__X> you need to test to see if it works
[15:54] <AKJ> well im trying to use what i have at home
[15:54] <Shadow__X> and for what channels
[15:54] <Shadow__X> where do you live
[15:54] <AKJ> canada
[15:54] <Shadow__X> ah
[15:54] <AKJ> ive read some guides to get it to work
[15:54] <AKJ> ppl in my area
[15:54] <intx13> Well the first step would be to BACK UP your docs from Vista.. cuz if you bork the Mythbuntu install (or it borks itself), they're gone.
[15:54] <AKJ> and same box
[15:54] <AKJ> so im hoping that will work fine.
[15:55] <intx13> I wouldn't worry about the firewire-STB stuff until you've gotten the hang of dual-booting *buntu and Vista
[15:55] <AKJ> ya
[15:56] <AKJ> is anybody familiar with which driver in xorg config will work with the radeon hd 3650?
[15:56] <Shadow__X> fglrx
[15:56] <Shadow__X> i am
[15:57] <intx13> Dual-booting Mythbuntu with Vista... using an STB via firewire... and running an ATI graphics card.  Not exactly the most pleasant way to learn about MythTV.,
[15:59] <Shadow__X> just get aspare box or another hd
[15:59] <AKJ> Ya I'll see if i cant get it to work ill have to. though this is more of a summer project to see if it can work.
[16:00] <AKJ> I tried the fglrx driver
[16:00] <AKJ> and when i logged out it didnt work
[16:00] <AKJ> it went to low power mode
[16:00] <AKJ> and asked me to configure manually
[16:00] <Shadow__X> hmmm
[16:00] <Shadow__X> it works for me
[16:01] <intx13> But this is on the LiveCD... I don't know how well the LiveCD deals with restarting X with different drivers, etc.
[16:01] <Shadow__X> it doesnt
[16:01] <Shadow__X> esp for ati
[16:01] <intx13> well there you go then
[16:01] <Shadow__X> this guy
[16:01] <Shadow__X> :)
[16:02] <Shadow__X> go read mythtv docs then read mythbuntu docs reading is our friend
[16:02] <intx13> Wasn't there talk that since AMD bought ATI, they'd be releasing the specs to encourange open source drivers?  What ever happened with that?
[16:02] <AKJ> okay so i guess first thing i need to do is get it isntalled
[16:02] <AKJ> well there actually are drivers for the card
[16:02] <superm1> Shadow__X, i didn't look yet, but did you add some feedback to that thread about things working for the N adapter?  the person who is going to be handling the GUI stuff wanted to see some confirmation that the manual process worked for someone before they put the GUI stuff in place
[16:02] <AKJ> catalyst control centre for linux
[16:03] <Shadow__X> i can if you want superm1 it works fine i have been using it
[16:03] <intx13> AKJ, yes, focus on getting it installed (even if it's just with VGA graphics) alongside Vista, so that you can dual boot.  Then worry about getting the ATI card working... then worry about MythTV and your STB.
[16:03] <Shadow__X> although not at n peeds
[16:03] <superm1> Shadow__X, yes please
[16:04] <Shadow__X> \yup
[16:07] <AKJ> sorry to seem so needy but can anyone direct to a guide to dual boot vista and mythbuntu
[16:08] <AKJ> I'm looking but there doesnt seem to be too much on it
[16:08] <Shadow__X> google?
[16:08] <intx13> there's tons on it!  First hit on google for "dual boot vista ubuntu" looks good
[16:08] <AKJ> nvm
[16:08] <AKJ> theres not too muc there
[16:09] <AKJ> found more stuff dual booting with xp
[16:09] <AKJ> should be same thing
[16:09] <intx13> *might* be the same thing.. Vista is funky
[16:10] <intx13> uh that first google hit I pointed you to has tons of info and a walk-through of the install... its for ubuntu, not mythbuntu, but it's the same dealy
[16:10] <Shadow__X> no its not vista is diff
[16:10] <intx13> http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first.htm
[16:10] <intx13> "Here's how to install Vista and Linux (with Vista installed first). Step-by-step instructions that assume no knowledge of Linux. (Now updated for Ubuntu 8.04 and Vista SP1)."
[16:11] <Shadow__X> sounds like AKJ
[16:11] <Shadow__X> :)
[16:11] <AKJ> thanks a lot
[16:12] <intx13> I'm going to write my own guide: "step one: throw your vista-laden computer in the trash, it is forever tainted and worthless.  step 2: buy new computer.  step 3: install ubuntu."
[16:12] <Shadow__X> sounds better
[16:12] <Shadow__X> intx13, but you dont want all the idiots moving over to linux
[16:12] <Shadow__X> that will taint it
[16:12] <Shadow__X> leave them at mac and windows
[16:13] <intx13> hmm i wouldn't say it would taint it, it would just pollute the lists with more trivial questions - Macs are the way to go for people not ready for Linux, imo
[16:14] <AKJ> interestingly i followed that route
[16:14] <NTolerance> Shadow__X: so after a short BRB, did you say that the HVR1800 is the win?  something about analog is no good on the HVR1250
[16:14] <AKJ> dual booth mac
[16:14] <Shadow__X> yeah but with mass useage it will deteriate it
[16:14] <AKJ> this is triple boot now
[16:14] <AKJ> lol may not be too smart
[16:14] <intx13> nah mass usage forces the devs to design for the newbies as well as the experts, which is a good thing!
[16:14] <AKJ> anywayz thx a lot everone im off to do an install and mroe reading
[16:14] <Shadow__X> NTolerance, analog on the hvr 1250 is a frame graber = bad
[16:14] <intx13> good luck, AKJ!
[16:15] <Shadow__X> ify ou arent going to record analog its fine
[16:15] <NTolerance> i could just use my MCE-150 for analog
[16:15] <AKJ> thx
[16:15] <Shadow__X> if you plan to eventually use the hvr 1800 i have one analog works in linux but not in mythtv yet
[16:15] <NTolerance> i'm mainly wanting it for the digital stuffs....
[16:15] <Shadow__X> well then its upto you
[16:16] <Shadow__X> the 1800 has analog and digital and you can use both at the same time
[16:16] <Shadow__X> the 1250 can only use one at a time
[16:16] <NTolerance> i need to talk to someone who has time warner cable and one of these QAM cards
[16:16] <NTolerance> see how many channels they can tune
[16:17] <Shadow__X> well get the hvr 1600 then
[16:17] <NTolerance> need any fancy video hardware/settings to play back HD MPEG2?
[16:17] <Shadow__X> 1600 has support for both in mythtv
[16:17] <NTolerance> 1600 is PCI, i'm out of PCI slots
[16:17] <Shadow__X> ah ok
[16:17] <NTolerance> i'm running an intel X3100 for my video
[16:17] <Shadow__X> i have a integrated geforce 6150 that works
[16:17] <Shadow__X> that should work
[16:17] <Shadow__X> whats your cpu
[16:17] <NTolerance> one thing that was interesting is i had to disable the openGL vsync option in mythtv, otherwise playback was real choppy
[16:18] <NTolerance> Pentium 2180
[16:18] <NTolerance> 2.0Ghz
[16:18] <Shadow__X> hmm
[16:18] <Shadow__X> maybe an issue with hd
[16:18] <Shadow__X> just try it
[16:18] <NTolerance> for serios?  my cpu is pretty good, it's basically a low end core2duo
[16:18] <Shadow__X> if it does you can just upgrade the cpu
[16:18] <Shadow__X> yeah well real low end c2d i have heard have issues
[16:19] <Shadow__X> but i guess it dpeends on setup
[16:19] <Shadow__X> you will see when you try
[16:19] <NTolerance> need to get some test files, MPEG2 and MPEG4
[16:19] <Shadow__X> or just do it
[16:19] <Shadow__X> :D
[16:19] <NTolerance> just do it = fail for sure
[16:19] <NTolerance> must test
[16:19] <Shadow__X> nope you wont fail
[16:19] <NTolerance> murphy?
[16:19] <Shadow__X> failing isnt an option
[16:20] <NTolerance> a month ago my mythbox was running a duron 1.6
[16:27] <Shadow__X> well NTolerance you record hd you dont need anything
[16:27] <Shadow__X> :D
[16:29] <NTolerance> ?
[16:29] <Shadow__X> you can record hd on that duron
[16:29] <NTolerance> sure, but playback?
[16:30] <Shadow__X> fail
[16:30] <NTolerance> yeah
[16:30] <NTolerance> i know mpeg4 HD takes a lot of CPU, but doesn't mpeg2 take less ?
[16:30] <Shadow__X> hmm i guess i dont really know i have heard that mpeg2 gets helped
[16:30] <Shadow__X> but i dont know if i have heard wrong
[16:36] <NTolerance> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5536153&postcount=4
[16:37] <Shadow__X> hmm so you can expect like 40-50 percent
[16:37] <Shadow__X> or maybe higher
[16:37] <Shadow__X> dont you have slower fsb and less cache
[16:37] <NTolerance> sounds good to me
[16:38] <NTolerance> 800Mhz FSB
[16:38] <Shadow__X> yeah
[16:38] <Shadow__X> 2mb cache?
[16:38] <NTolerance> 1MB cache versus 2MB cache on the c2d
[16:38] <Shadow__X> i thought c2d had 4mb
[16:39] <NTolerance> some have 2MB, some have 4MB
[16:39] <NTolerance> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_2_microprocessors
[16:39] <Shadow__X> ah ok
[16:39] <Shadow__X> i like 4mb
[16:39] <Shadow__X> i was thinking about making my quad core a be as well
[16:41] <NTolerance> apparently mplayer is best for MKV files, and that's good because that's what i use in mythtv
[16:43] <Shadow__X> ah
[16:43] <NTolerance> know any place that has 720p MKV samples or trailers?
[16:44] <Shadow__X> nope
[16:44] <NTolerance> i think samsung had them at one point
[16:44] <Shadow__X> i dont know of any  place that really has mkv
[16:51] <Shadow__X> http://www.matroska.org/samples/matrix/index.html
[16:52] <Shadow__X> http://www.google.com/search?q=mkv+samples&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[16:52] <NTolerance> cool, ty
[16:53] <Shadow__X> mhm
[16:53] <Shadow__X> there is a 720p sample there
[16:53] <Shadow__X> i just didnt want to link it
[16:58] <Shadow__X> hey superm1 are you here
[16:59] <Shadow__X> i have reason to beleive if you update with your method to get broadcom working
[16:59] <Shadow__X> it messes with the ati drivers
[16:59] <superm1> Shadow__X, why is that?
[16:59] <superm1> or better off; what's your reasoning
[16:59] <Shadow__X> because i cant get xv to work i have been having issues since yesterday
[17:00] <Shadow__X> right now i am going to install the drivers from ati's side
[17:00] <Shadow__X> site*
[17:00] <superm1> didn't we go through this yesterday?
[17:00] <Shadow__X> yeah but it didnt come out working
[17:01] <Shadow__X> my plan was to get xvworking
[17:01] <superm1> it seemed that there were bugs in the ati drivers with your card and texturedvideo i thought
[17:02] <Shadow__X> yeah
[17:02] <superm1> but i'm not sure what the connection to the broadcom driver is to that
[17:04] <Shadow__X> there sint a connection to the broadcom dirver
 i have reason to beleive if you update with your method to get broadcom working
 it messes with the ati drivers
[17:05] <superm1> ?
[17:05] <Shadow__X> well
[17:05] <Shadow__X> i think i figured it out
[17:08] <Shadow__X> you have to install sudo apt-get install build-essential cdbs fakeroot dh-make debhelper debconf libstdc++5 dkms linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[17:08] <Shadow__X> then the fglrx driver fully installs
[17:08] <Shadow__X> when using the updated kernel
[17:09] <Shadow__X> xvinfo and fglrx are correct
[17:09] <Shadow__X> now
[17:10] <superm1> that is supposed to all automatically happen actually when you install the fglrx driver
[17:10] <Shadow__X> yeah it didnt when i installed from restricted though
[17:10] <superm1> yeah its not needed in the restricted version
[17:10] <superm1> the one from the website actually builds debs
[17:10] <Shadow__X> hmm the driver wasnt working
[17:10] <Shadow__X> i didnt install fromt site
[17:10] <superm1> and all those pieces are around to build the debs
[17:10] <Shadow__X> i was about to but stopped
[17:11] <MythbuntuGuest02> building diskless usb and get the following error when writing image. error detecting NBD server port Make sure /etc/inetd.conf is up to date.
[17:11] <Shadow__X> how exactly do you build diskless usb
[17:11] <superm1> laga, ^ look at MythbuntuGuest02's stuff
[17:11] <superm1> MythbuntuGuest02, if you stick around for a bit, laga is the one to ask about things with diskless breaking
[17:11] <MythbuntuGuest02> tftp           dgram   udp     wait    root  /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot
[17:11] <MythbuntuGuest02> ok
[17:17] <Shadow__X> hey superm1 i now have an issue
[17:17] <Shadow__X> lol
[17:17] <Shadow__X> xv works in mplayer
[17:18] <Shadow__X> but when i fire up mythtvfront end
[17:18] <Shadow__X> it splits the screen in half and gives me garbled screen on both sides
[17:20] <Shadow__X> sound like anything that you have heard of before
[17:20] <superm1> yes
[17:21] <Shadow__X> ah
[17:21] <Shadow__X> great
[17:21] <Shadow__X> what is that
[17:21] <Shadow__X> lol
[17:21] <superm1> oh you want a solution too?
[17:21] <superm1> :)
[17:21] <Shadow__X> so i could just you know
[17:21] <Shadow__X> oh
[17:21] <Shadow__X> great
[17:21] <Shadow__X> well can i know whats causing that
[17:21] <Shadow__X> i wouldnt mind learning why its doing that
[17:21] <superm1> i've just heard of it actually
[17:21] <superm1> i havent seen it or heard ta root cause
[17:21] <superm1> http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10940&page=3
[17:22] <superm1> x1400 right?
[17:22] <superm1> force mythtv to 1680x1024 or 1680x1080
[17:23] <Shadow__X> yeah
[17:23] <Shadow__X> hmm
[17:23] <Shadow__X> whats the command to run mythtv in a windows
[17:23] <Shadow__X> i can do 1280x1024
[17:23] <Shadow__X> i really dont want full screen i was a smaller windows
[17:24] <superm1> well running in a window might not solve it
[17:24] <superm1> but all those settings are in mythfrontend
[17:25] <Shadow__X> mythfrontend -w geometry 1680x1080?
[17:25] <NTolerance> any of you guys got the totem mythtv plugin working?
[17:25] <NTolerance> i enabled it but i get database timeout errors
[17:25] <Shadow__X> it works for me NTolerance
[17:26] <Shadow__X> make sure you went into gconf-editor and made the right corrections
[17:26] <NTolerance> sure did
[17:26] <NTolerance> i know i have the right IP, username, password, etc
[17:26] <Shadow__X> hmm
[17:26] <NTolerance> i tried changing the port that's in there to the default mysql port
[17:26] <NTolerance> no difference
[17:26] <Shadow__X> it works for me
[17:26] <NTolerance> you'd think i would get "permission denied" if my credentials were wrong
[17:26] <NTolerance> do you have to enable remote database connections in the mythtv database?
[17:27] <Shadow__X> yes
[17:27] <Shadow__X> lol
[17:27] <NTolerance> command line or mythtv setup gui?
[17:27] <Shadow__X> you have to have it so a front end can connect
[17:27] <Shadow__X> NTolerance, in setup gui the first part has to dow ith that kind of stuff
[17:27] <Shadow__X> but if you are running mythbuntu there is something else
[17:27] <Shadow__X> you have to get mysql to listen on your nic
[17:28] <NTolerance> yeah, mythbuntu of course
[17:28] <superm1> Shadow__X, more permanently you want to make sure that those settings are set in mythfrontend after it's running
[17:28] <superm1> rather than command line
[17:28] <superm1> in the appearance section
[17:28] <Shadow__X> ah ok
[17:29] <Shadow__X> and opengl helps the matter but mythtv doesnt function right using opengl
[17:30] <NTolerance> how important is the opengl vsync option?  my vidcard can't seem to handle it
[17:30] <Shadow__X> then dont use it
[17:30] <NTolerance> yeah, i turned it off, just curious as to why it's on by default
[17:30] <superm1> NTolerance, you will probably want to modify the settings in nvidia-settings for vertical sync etc
[17:31] <NTolerance> i'm using an intel x3100, but i restored a database from my old system which had an nvidia fx5200
[17:32] <superm1> ah
[17:32] <superm1> opengl vsync only works on nvidia
[17:32] <NTolerance> provocative
[17:33] <Shadow__X> superm1, on the last post on the first page
[17:33] <Shadow__X> thats exactly how it looks
[17:39] <superm1> Shadow__X, well did you try changing your resolution around
[17:39] <superm1> like not just myth resolution but screen resolution
[17:39] <superm1> in the amd control centre thing
[17:40] <NTolerance> superm1: you use time warner cable?
[17:43] <Shadow__X> hmm i will try that superm1
[17:45] <Shadow__X> the artifacting gets worse at 1600x1200
[17:50] <superm1> NTolerance, yeah
[17:50] <bartmon> hi! I have a quick question - how much disk space does a frontend install of mythbuntu need? thanks!
[17:50] <superm1> Shadow__X, well experiment a bit with some other resolutions that are close if you cna
[17:51] <Shadow__X> i did
[17:51] <Shadow__X> :(
[17:51] <Shadow__X> worse corruption
[17:52] <NTolerance> superm1: do you plug your coax from the wall straight into a QAM tuner card or are you doing firewire/IR blaster from the STB?
[17:53] <NTolerance> bartmon: 2GB is the min requirement
[17:53] <NTolerance> 10GB recommended
[17:53] <bartmon> dang
[17:54] <superm1> NTolerance, well i have multiple QAM tuners as well as firewire from the STB
[17:54] <superm1> but i've stopped using the firewire since i get so few channels on it
[17:54] <Shadow__X> superm1, i can make the corruption go away using opengl BUT then when i hit enter to watch tv it hangs
[17:54] <Shadow__X> certain menus just hang
[17:54] <Shadow__X> and i can do anything
[17:54] <NTolerance> i'm planning on getting a HVR1800 to tune QAM channels straight from the wall coax, how many channels do you think i can pick up w/ that, i will be using digital only, no analog
[17:54] <superm1> Shadow__X, do you happen to have two monitors plugged in?
[17:54] <Shadow__X> no
[17:55] <superm1> Shadow__X, or anything in your xorg.conf related to virtual desktop sizing?
[17:55] <Shadow__X> jjust the laptop screen
[17:55] <superm1> well does running mythtv in a windowed mode maybe help?
[17:55] <superm1> or turning off compiz first
[17:55] <Shadow__X> compiz has been off
[17:55] <bartmon> I'm buying a CF card as a hard drive replacement and if it doesn't work well for mythbuntu then i'll reuse it for a dedicated NAS box. That needs very little space so i'm trying to buy as cheaply as possible
[17:55] <superm1> bartmon, well it's actually closer to a gig
[17:56] <superm1> but 2 gigs is the minimum size card you should have
[17:56] <superm1> to leave wiggle room for updating and such
[17:56] <bartmon> oh
[17:56] <Shadow__X> superm1, would you like me to post my current xorg
[17:56] <superm1> Shadow__X, if you didnt modify that part yourself, it wouldnt have been present
[17:57] <bartmon> excellent! cause shops don't really have small capacities anymore, anything below 2GB isn't in stock.
[17:57] <Shadow__X> i do have vnc running
[17:57] <Shadow__X> could that mess it up
[17:57] <Shadow__X> other than that nothing virtual
[17:57] <superm1> bartmon, if 4gigs is affordable (usually they come 2,4,8,16 etc)
[17:58] <superm1> you would be safer with that
[17:58] <superm1> otherwise you'll just have to be careful
[17:59] <bartmon> wel if mythbuntu works out, i'll get one with 8GB capacity. I just need the smallest it needs for testing
[18:00] <Shadow__X> superm1, in opengl the menus have slow transitions
[18:00] <Shadow__X> and when i try to goto lets say system status it just stays at the menu where i hit enter
[18:00] <Shadow__X> but if i login through vnc i can see the actually system status
[18:00] <Shadow__X> does that makes sense
[18:01] <superm1> bartmon, well just for testing, 2 gigs should suffice, but i'd say
[18:01] <superm1> go with a hard drive for now in that box, just for testing
[18:01] <superm1> dont waste the money on a CF card if its just testing
[18:02] <NTolerance> superm1: any idea on my TW cable question?
[18:02] <superm1> NTolerance, it depends on how nice TW is in your area
[18:02] <superm1> for me it's just locals that i normally would get OTA
[18:02] <NTolerance> raleigh, nc
[18:03] <superm1> when i lived in raleigh, i just used firewire with them
[18:03] <superm1> so can't comment too much unfortunately
[18:03] <NTolerance> ok, so might as well just use an OTA antenna, same result huh?
[18:03] <NTolerance> maybe less compression w/ OTA?
[18:03] <Shadow__X> NTolerance, TRY QAM
[18:04] <Shadow__X> lol
[18:04] <superm1> NTolerance, well i don't know what the current situation is with them out there. but you should be guaranteed at least locals
[18:05] <superm1> QAM is a bit more reliable, especially during hurricane season
[18:05] <Shadow__X> yes
[18:05] <Shadow__X> also no antennaes
[18:05] <NTolerance> ok, i'll give it a shot, this makes me want to get the low-end HVR1250 though, no point in going dual tuners if you only get a handful of channels
[18:05] <Shadow__X> superm1, i have read good things about using the xorg libs instead of atis
[18:05] <Shadow__X> how can i go about that
[18:05] <superm1> NTolerance, best thing you can do is try and find a card to "rent" at BB or something
[18:05] <superm1> NTolerance, and see what stations you get
[18:05] <NTolerance> heh, good call
[18:06] <superm1> bring it back within 30 days
[18:06] <Shadow__X> heh
[18:06] <superm1> and then you'll know what to do
[18:06] <NTolerance> but that's just wrong, i never would say, rent an LCD monitor for a weekend LAN party
[18:06] <NTolerance> :DS
[18:06] <Shadow__X> why not
[18:06] <Shadow__X> that sounds good
[18:07] <superm1> NTolerance, having worked there in the past for a while, i fully endorse their rental policies
[18:07] <Shadow__X> stupid graphics corruption
[18:07] <NTolerance> sarcasm
[18:07] <Shadow__X> if it freaking worked now i can watch shows
[18:07] <NTolerance> i was just kidding, i full endorse such behavior
[18:07] <superm1> good :)
[18:08] <superm1> Shadow__X, you shouldn't be switching libraries around like that
[18:08] <NTolerance> my 21" CRT is just too much for a LAN party, it weighs like 70lbs
[18:08] <superm1> Shadow__X, the ati libraries add a bunch of ati specific extensions
[18:08] <NTolerance> so i rent LCDs
[18:08] <NTolerance> is anyone making PCI-E QAM tuners other than hauppauge?
[18:09] <Shadow__X> hmm then i dont know superm1 what other programs should i try or anythign
[18:09] <laga> MythbuntuGuest02: still there?
[18:11] <Shadow__X> NTolerance, i just got totem working again with mythtv recordings
[18:11] <Shadow__X> are you able to have frontends conect to the backend?
[18:12] <Shadow__X> hey superm1 totem working is better than nothing for now
[18:13] <Shadow__X> does anyone know something else that i can use to watch my recordings with
[18:13] <Shadow__X> totem is fine i just can skip or search
[18:14] <bartmon> mplayer?
[18:14] <Shadow__X> i want the data info though
[18:14] <Shadow__X> and be able to skip commericlas
[18:14] <superm1> mythtvfs
[18:14] <superm1> skip commercials, only myth
[18:14] <Shadow__X> hmm
[18:15] <Shadow__X> mythtv player does it on windows :D
[18:15] <bartmon> what do you mean by dta info?
[18:15] <Shadow__X> like recording name
[18:15] <Shadow__X> and all that
[18:15] <bartmon> oh
[18:17] <Shadow__X> hmm
[18:18] <Shadow__X> totem is a good spep though i have to say
[18:19] <bartmon> it's weird that totem doesn't let you seek
[18:19] <bartmon> do you want to see the file info in an OSD manner?
[18:19] <Shadow__X> totem doesnt let me skeep because it seems as if when totem streams it only streams the imamge
[18:19] <Shadow__X> and doesnt get all the info
[18:21] <bartmon> oh, you're streaming your stuff from a network...
[18:22] <Shadow__X> yeah
[18:22] <Shadow__X> :D
[18:23] <Shadow__X> the purpose of all of this was for me to beable to watch my shows on my laotp while i wasnt infront of a tv
[18:26] <Shadow__X> eh i guess i can just watch em over samba at this point
[18:26] <Shadow__X> i just want eventually to beable to use mythtv frontend
[18:28] <Shadow__X> hey superm1 is there a way i can know what each recording is using mythweb?
[18:29] <superm1> yes
[18:29] <Shadow__X> how would that be if you dont mind
[18:37] <superm1> Shadow__X, if you just just go to the recordings tab of mythweb
[18:37] <superm1> there are 3 buttons or so
[18:37] <superm1> one of them is an asx stream wrapper that will open in totem
[18:37] <superm1> one is the file itself
[18:37] <superm1> and one is to watch it in the flash player
[18:37] <Shadow__X> right
[18:38] <Shadow__X> the asx streamer then
[18:38] <Shadow__X> ?
[18:40] <Shadow__X> i had a video oepn
[18:41] <Shadow__X> i oepened another when then i got spit into command line
[18:41] <Shadow__X> :(
[19:00] <MythbuntuGuest02> laga still here
[19:01] <bartmon> well if you're streming stuff via asx then no wonder - asx doesn't support seeking :7
[19:01] <bartmon> :/
[19:01] <Shadow__X> bartmon,
[19:02] <Shadow__X> i was using totem mythtv plugin
[19:02] <MythbuntuGuest02> laga,  got  meeting,  be back in an hour.
[19:27] <Shadow__X> bbl
[19:56] <MythbuntuGuest02> laga,  im back
[20:05] <laga> brb
[20:27] <laga> MythbuntuGuest02: okay, what's the problem?
[20:30] <MythbuntuGuest02> get the following errors when writing to usb, make sure /etc/inetd.conf is up to date
[20:30] <MythbuntuGuest02> error detecting NBD server port
[20:31] <laga> okay, can you pastebin your inetd.conf?
[20:33] <MythbuntuGuest02> ok
[20:34] <MythbuntuGuest02> http://pastebin.com/m15bde593
[20:35] <laga> yeah, that's what i expected... did you create an image in the control centre?
[20:37] <MythbuntuGuest02> yes
[20:38] <laga> i'm afraid that didn't work then. that's a known bug, a fix will be released shortly.
[20:38] <laga> in the meantime, you can do it manually
[20:38] <laga> um
[20:39] <laga> you're lucky, i'm currently setting it up manually, too
[20:39] <laga> ;)
[20:39] <MythbuntuGuest02> nice
[20:39] <laga> what architecture do you want? amd64 or i386?
[20:39] <MythbuntuGuest02> i386
[20:42] <laga> http://pastebin.ca/1095005
[20:42] <laga> had to put it in a pastebin because i was inside a virtual machine
[20:43] <laga> that's going to take a while, but i guess you already know that ;)
[20:45] <MythbuntuGuest02> it is running now
[20:45] <laga> i should have timed mine
[20:45] <laga> yay for competition
[21:16] <MythbuntuGuest02> just finished building
[21:16] <laga> damn
[21:16] <laga> it's still running mksquashfs here ;)
[21:17] <laga> can you try again to make the usb stick?
[21:17] <MythbuntuGuest02> I will
[21:19] <MythbuntuGuest02> I get the same error when writing the file from control center
[21:20] <laga> has inetd.conf changed?
[21:21] <MythbuntuGuest02> it is the same
[21:22] <laga> hrmpf
[21:22] <laga> does /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img exist?
[21:23] <MythbuntuGuest02> -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 423M 2008-08-07 15:14 /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
[21:23] <laga> well, that looks sane.
[21:24] <laga> do you still have the last lines of the terminal output of ltsp-build-client?
[21:28] <MythbuntuGuest02> laga http://pastebin.ca/1095039
[21:29] <laga> #
[21:29] <laga> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another p
[21:29] <laga> #
[21:29] <laga> rocess: Resource temporarily unavailable
[21:29] <laga> well, that's why it didn't work
[21:29] <laga> oops
[21:29] <laga> do you have a package management tool running?
[21:29] <MythbuntuGuest02> no
[21:29] <MythbuntuGuest02> not that I know of
[21:30] <laga> okay. then the proper line to fix inetd.conf would be
[21:31] <laga> sudo update-inetd --group LTSP --add "2000               stream  tcp nowait  nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdrootd /opt/ltsp/image/i386.img"
[21:32] <Shadow__X> hello everyone
[21:32] <MythbuntuGuest02> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[21:32] <laga> hi Shadow__X
[21:32] <laga> MythbuntuGuest02: okay, what does
[21:33] <laga> lsof | grep /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[21:33] <laga> return?
[21:34] <MythbuntuGuest02> nothing
[21:34] <Shadow__X> i think it was better to get totem to get working
[21:34] <Shadow__X> this way i can use play and pause on the front on my laptop'
[21:39] <laga> MythbuntuGuest02: hum. i wonder how to fix that
[21:39] <laga> MythbuntuGuest02: do you still have the control centre running?
[21:45] <MythbuntuGuest02> it was
[21:46] <MythbuntuGuest02> I rebooted the box and ran sudo update-inetd --group LTSP --add "2000               stream  tcp nowait  nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdrootd /opt/ltsp/image/i386.img"
[21:46] <MythbuntuGuest02> it cam back ok
[21:46] <MythbuntuGuest02> rebuilding the image again
[21:48] <laga> nice
[21:48] <laga> no need to rebuild the image, but i guess it's too late
[22:49] <Shadow__X> hey superm1
[22:49] <superm1> hey
[22:49] <Shadow__X> in active  connection information where it says speed
[22:49] <Shadow__X> it says
[22:49] <Shadow__X> 14 Mb/s
[22:49] <Shadow__X> but is that right
[22:50] <superm1> that's the current speed its operating at
[22:50] <superm1> based on signal strength and noise
[22:50] <superm1> etc
[22:50] <Shadow__X> i downloaded off a local computer and it hit 4MB/sec
[22:50] <superm1> what you mean off a local computer?
[22:50] <superm1> you mean on the network?
[22:51] <superm1> if so, then that sounds like you got a pretty good speed
[22:51] <superm1> that would be 32Mb/s
[22:54] <superm1> Shadow__X, well i gotta go.  don' forget to respond to that thread :)