[00:38] <WARlrus> Good morning all :-) Me again
[00:38] <WARlrus> Okay - Xubuntu 8.04 Alternate installer. CD diagnostic thing worked fine, but when it comes to install, its still freezing on 6%
[00:38] <WARlrus> oh cancel that, its started moving again
[01:32] <LetsGo67> How do I remove instruments from a song?
[01:35] <LetsGo67> How do I make a mashup?
[01:36] <LetsGo67> How do I remove vocals?
[02:20] <bassboi> is there a like a network neighborhood thing for xubuntu, so i can browse  my local intranet for windows shares?
[04:31] <berxx> exit
[04:48] <lboken> hi all does any one knows how to add a service  on boot   cause i installed icecast2 and i try to add make it start on startup  but i cant find the way (the way i found use a command that is unreconized
[04:50] <bassboi> applications ~> settings ~> settings manager ~> autostartedd apps
[04:59] <lboken> thanks  bassboi
[05:00] <bassboi> np :)
[05:00] <bassboi> anytime
[05:01] <lboken> now my next tep is to  configure my vlc  to stream on my icecast ill do some research  a bit first
[05:08] <bassboi> idk crap bout that :P
[05:32] <lboken> well no luck so fa :-(
[05:32] <lboken> well i go now  bye
[05:46] <bassboi> howcome when i use the terminal, and do ~$ users, it shows my name twice
[07:14] <Flannel> Hey guys.  Was wondering what the best way to fix the huge font in terminal/mousepad (and perhaps other places I haven't found yet) is.
[08:28] <mikubuntu> hey guys, having trouble getting upgrades to work with the update manager for some reason.  this is mom's machine, and i hadn't checked it in awhile... there are 237 updates available, but they are failing to realize.  would the terminal possibly work any better, and if so, what are the commands to try?  thanks...
[08:32] <ablomen> mikubuntu, at least it will give you more information. try: sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:32] <mikubuntu> ablomen, k thanks i go try ...
[08:35] <Flannel> dist-upgrade is probably a better choice
[08:39] <mikubuntu> flannel, well, the terminal seems to be doing the update; do you suggest i do dist upgrade after it finishes this process?
[08:39] <Flannel> mikubuntu: If you had no updates kept back, you don't need to do the dist-upgrade
[08:40] <mikubuntu> flannel, what do you mean 'kept back'?
[08:41] <Flannel> mikubuntu: with apt-get update, it'd say "these packages have been kept back:"
[08:42] <mikubuntu> k, i will watch for it
[08:43] <Flannel> It'd tell you before it started
[08:45] <mikubuntu> hmmmm, ok then, i guess its not holding back then
[08:45] <Flannel> It'
[08:45] <Flannel> It'd only happen when things needed new depends, like a kernel version upgrade
[08:46] <mikubuntu> ok, well, the term is definitely working, and rather quickly, which the update manager was NOT, so i am hoping update is all smooth
[08:48]  * mikubuntu watched as ther terminal reported a replacement version of the update manager
[08:55] <akatsuki> hello for some weird reason.. i cant delete a file... not even using cli with rmdir
[08:56] <Flannel> akatsuki: rmdir is used for directories not files, and do you have proper permissions?
[08:56] <akatsuki> i dont
[08:56] <akatsuki> it seems
[08:56] <akatsuki> its a permission problem
[08:57] <Flannel> akatsuki: deleting is the same as writing, so you need write permssion
[08:58] <akatsuki> how
[09:00] <Flannel> akatsuki: er... chmod +w
[09:02] <akatsuki> ok im in alvaz the file i want to delete
[09:02] <akatsuki> cd /home/..../..../alvaz
[09:02] <akatsuki> im in
[09:02] <Flannel> thats the folder you want to delete? or thats the file?
[09:02] <Flannel> We can bypass the chmod by just using sudo with our rm
[09:02] <akatsuki> when i try chmod +w
[09:03] <akatsuki> well its a folder it seems..
[09:03] <akatsuki> it was a file
[09:03] <akatsuki> but it seems i delete it but not the folder i dont know
[09:03] <akatsuki> its weird
[09:03] <akatsuki> because nothing is there
[09:03] <akatsuki> so its a folder yeah
[09:03] <Flannel> ok, so, cd back to its parent,
[09:03] <akatsuki> ok
[09:04] <Flannel> and then rmdir alvaz, or if that gives you a permission issue, sudo rmdir alvaz
[09:04] <akatsuki> i did that
[09:04] <akatsuki> ok i will try sudo
[09:05] <akatsuki> rmdir: failed to remove `alvaz': Directory not empty
[09:05] <akatsuki> what the hell
[09:05] <akatsuki> thunar is weird
[09:06] <Flannel> akatsuki: alright, you still want to delete that whole folder then?
[09:07] <akatsuki> urd
[09:07] <akatsuki> yes
[09:10] <akatsuki> thanks for your help
[09:10] <akatsuki> i will wait, i know you are busy helping others
[09:15] <TheSheep> you can start Thunar with 'gksu thunar', with admin priviledges
[09:16] <Flannel> akatsuki: rm -rf alvaz
[09:16] <TheSheep> Flannel: better skip the f
[09:16] <TheSheep> Flannel: safer :)
[09:16] <Flannel> TheSheep: no, he wants to delete the folder too
[09:16] <TheSheep> Flannel: -r is enough for that
[09:17] <TheSheep> Flannel: -f is for also deleting read-only files and such
[09:17] <Flannel> hmmm.  since when.
[09:17] <Flannel> since forever.
[09:17] <Flannel> wonder why Ive always thought differently
[09:17] <Zirrush> associating the f with folder instead of force?
[09:19] <akatsuki> thanks to everyone
[09:19] <Flannel> Nah, I knew it was force.
[09:19] <akatsuki> thesheep gksu thunar' was a nice command thanks
[09:19] <akatsuki> that help me out
[09:19] <Flannel> maybe the "doesn't delete directories by default" line had an -r that looked like an -f
[09:58] <Mr_Blue> hello i just found old laptop witch Xubuntu 7.04, and now when i try i cannot update it to 8.04. And my question now : How to upgrade my 7.04 to 7.10 ?
[12:51] <cody-somerville> Heya Folks
[12:51] <TheSheep> hey cody-somerville
[13:07] <tmc_fabian23> anybody around know how to make firefox3 use less memory?
[13:08] <TheSheep> tmc_fabian23: sure, for starters you can disable downloading images and all the javascript, java nd other plugins
[13:08] <tmc_fabian23> or get firefox 3 plugins to work in epiphany?
[13:08] <TheSheep> tmc_fabian23: next step would be disabling all styles
[13:08] <tmc_fabian23> how much would reduce the mem footprint by?
[13:08] <TheSheep> tmc_fabian23: firefox's plugins will never work in epiphany
[13:09] <tmc_fabian23> guess they should update thei site then
[13:09] <tmc_fabian23> anyway...........opening fx3 now........
[13:09] <tmc_fabian23> all are in pref rite?
[13:09] <TheSheep> tmc_fabian23: do they say the ysupport ff's plugins on their site?
[13:10] <tmc_fabian23> a few
[13:10] <tmc_fabian23> th8 id ask around and find out
[13:10] <TheSheep> !u
[13:11] <ablomen> wooh i can say u :)
[13:11] <TheSheep> ablomen: but only in your language :)
[13:11] <tmc_fabian23> ya
[13:11] <ablomen> heh too bad ;)
[13:11] <TheSheep> tmc_fabian23: anyways, these options are in the content tab, but you might not like the result
[13:12] <tmc_fabian23> reason i wanna use fx3 again is cuz of the plugins
[13:12] <ablomen> tmc_fabian23, well but firefox3 uses a lot less then firefox 2, so you might be suprised
[13:12] <ablomen> *resources
[13:12] <ablomen> at least in the long run
[13:13] <tmc_fabian23> i hope it is
[13:15] <tmc_fabian23> semms a bit lighter now
[13:15] <tmc_fabian23> are there any fx based browsers that can use fx plugins but still remain lightweight?
[13:16] <TheSheep> tmc_fabian23: no
[13:16] <TheSheep> tmc_fabian23: it's a contradiction
[13:16] <tmc_fabian23> *sighs*
[13:17] <tmc_fabian23> i think the community should try to make a browser like this
[13:17] <tmc_fabian23> seeing as xubuntu uses alot of lightweight apps
[13:17] <TheSheep> tmc_fabian23: if you tried, you would just end up with another firefox, just heavier and more buggy
[13:19] <TheSheep> tmc_fabian23: unless there are some gross errors in firefox, you cannot have the same functionality at lower cost
[13:19] <tmc_fabian23> ok
[13:19] <TheSheep> and if there are gross errors, it's better to just fix them
[13:21] <tmc_fabian23> :-/
[13:35] <_fabian23> is anybody getting weird things after they install dillo from the repos?
[13:35] <_fabian23> its not working at all for me
[13:35] <_fabian23> hardly to say the most
[13:37] <_fabian23> command to install >> sudo apt-get install dillo
[13:38]  * cody-somerville will try.
[13:39] <_fabian23> kk
[13:39] <cody-somerville> Ohh...
[13:39]  * cody-somerville doesn't really want to install gtk 1.2 :P
[13:39] <_fabian23> and also when it works the menus have no items and i cant change the address and stuff
[13:41] <_fabian23> heh
[14:24] <deepfriedsquirre> Hmm, I wish I could change my panel transparency like here: http://www.23hq.com/Vincentt/photo/2872764/original
[14:24] <deepfriedsquirre> Would I have to upgrade to something more bleeding edge?
[14:27] <maxamillion> deepfriedsquirre: nope, that's part of xfce's built-in compositing
[14:27] <maxamillion> deepfriedsquirre: i have a 5 year old machine that does that without issues
[14:28] <maxamillion> deepfriedsquirre: what graphics chipset do you have?
[14:31] <deepfriedsquirre> 9600GT
[14:31] <deepfriedsquirre> No nvidia drivers as of yet.
[14:32] <deepfriedsquirre> It's odd; sabayon gets them for me, while xubuntu fails.
[14:32] <deepfriedsquirre> I've tried getting them before in Ubuntu. I kept having to reconfigure it myself.
[14:32] <deepfriedsquirre> If I used nvidia drivers  I had to use something crazy like 800*600
[14:36] <maxamillion> ouch
[14:36] <maxamillion> yeah, you will need the nvidia drivers to get the transparency because you will need direct rendering for compositing
[14:37] <maxamillion> but that's odd that xubuntu fails ... how'd you try to install them?
[14:38] <deepfriedsquirre> Aha
[14:38] <deepfriedsquirre> All I need to do is enable display compositing in the Window Manager Tweaks dialogue
[14:38] <maxamillion> oh
[14:38] <maxamillion> lol
[14:38] <maxamillion> i was going to go over pre-requisites to that step
[14:39] <deepfriedsquirre> Wow, this is beautiful. It's got some nice compositting features.
[14:39] <maxamillion> yup
[14:39] <maxamillion> xfce is awesome like that
[14:39] <deepfriedsquirre> Why doesn't everyone use XFCE? It's like Gnome but faster...
[14:41] <crimsun> preference, lack of awareness, ignorance, etc.
[14:42] <deepfriedsquirre> Wow, focus stealing prevention...
[14:44] <maxamillion> deepfriedsquirre: its technically not like gnome, its just written in the same graphical toolkit so they look similar
[14:45] <maxamillion> deepfriedsquirre: and yes... xfwm4 (the xfce window manager) kicks massive hind parts
[14:56] <deepfriedsquirre> Exactly. It looks and feels very similar to Gnome. It provides similar functionality. But it's modular and fast.
[14:56] <deepfriedsquirre> Anyway
[14:56] <deepfriedsquirre> I'm trying to use xfce-taskmanager but it keeps on changing the position of everything every half second. It's like playing Sauerbraten.
[14:57] <deepfriedsquirre> I need these damned list items to stay still ><
[14:57] <TheSheep> deepfriedsquirre: sort by pid
[14:57] <deepfriedsquirre> Okay. Thanks...
[14:57] <TheSheep> deepfriedsquirre: or command
[14:57] <deepfriedsquirre> Ooh, they don't jump now.
[14:58] <deepfriedsquirre> What's the difference between stop and term then? I know what term and kill are, but not stop...
[14:58] <deepfriedsquirre> I did sort by command, but the started jumping again.
[14:58] <TheSheep> deepfriedsquirre: man 7 signal
[14:59] <deepfriedsquirre> k thanks
[14:59] <deepfriedsquirre>        Stop   Default action is to stop the process.
[14:59] <deepfriedsquirre> Meh
[15:00] <TheSheep> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIGSTOP
[15:00] <TheSheep> better :)
[15:00] <deepfriedsquirre> Hmm, firefox doesn't seem to like sigterm much...
[15:00] <deepfriedsquirre> Aha
[15:00] <deepfriedsquirre> Thanks
[15:00] <deepfriedsquirre> Common sense :P
[15:06] <deepfriedsquirre> Hmm, it would be nice if I could make windows snap wen resizing or have resistance when resizing...
[15:14] <microwaver> any dvd player who understands .srt files?
[15:16] <maxamillion> what is a .srt file?
[15:16] <microwaver> well I just need a simple dvd player who can understand subtitle files
[15:29] <FooTaGe> HI anyone here?
[15:30] <FooTaGe> Wanted to know what is the minimum req to run xubuntu? thanks
[15:36] <maxamillion> FooTaGe: i have personally tested it on a 366MHz Pentium2 with 192mb of ram and it ran just fine, but i have heard other have ran it on less hardware with minimal lag
[15:40] <spaceninja> does eeexubuntu have wireless support?
[15:45] <spaceninja> how do i change the device for the cdrom on the crux installer
[15:46] <spaceninja> wrong channel
[16:38] <MrNaz> is there a program that can catch keypresses so you can see if the OS registers it? i want to know if the special keys on my thinkpad are even sending a signal to the OS or if the driver doesnt recognise input from them
[16:38] <MrNaz> also... whats the command to switch desktops? i'd like to set up keypresses to switch between them
[16:46] <kctesting> Can I get some help on Xubuntu please? I need to know how much my system has? all files installed and all applications
[16:46] <kctesting> how can I find that? is it enough to see File System?
[16:46] <FooTaGe> maxamillion, thanks alot.
[16:51] <kctesting> I think I found : df -h -T
[16:51] <kctesting> :)
[16:51] <kctesting> thx anyway
[17:24] <WARlrus> Hi, is there a keyboard shortcut in xubuntu for switching between workspaces?
[17:24] <Myrtti> I believe it's the same as in ubuntu
[17:24] <Myrtti> ctrl-alt arrows
[17:25] <WARlrus> Tyvm :)
[17:28] <RageMachine> I've got a question >:D!
[17:28] <RageMachine> I've got a fairly new laptop, and I want to put Xubuntu on it. However, what is the difference between Xubuntu and Ubuntu? Its just XFCE right? meaning Xubuntu can run all ubuntu apps, correct?
[17:29] <zoredache> yes
[17:29] <RageMachine> thats what I though.
[17:29] <RageMachine> thought*
[17:29] <RageMachine> are there any other distros i should consider?
[17:30] <RageMachine> I think i may pop ubuntu or kubuntu on there once i've installed xubuntu because its a simple addition, unlike adding other distros.
[17:30] <zoredache> heck if I know... I have been using debian for servers since 2000, and ubuntu for my desktop since it came out
[17:30] <RageMachine> yea, i've just used ubuntu too.
[17:30] <RageMachine> I was thinking about setting up a home-server from an old computer
[17:31] <RageMachine> its basically just a box with storage space and networked to all the computers, correct?
[17:31] <zoredache> I always have prefered the lighter windows managers...  xfce don't do stuff I don't need or care about
[17:31] <RageMachine> yea,i hear you there.
[17:31] <Zirrush> used slackware for years and now been using xubuntu for the past year or so
[17:31] <RageMachine> I was thinking about fluxbox, or fluxbuntu.
[17:32] <RageMachine> but I think those are pretty CLI-based, and I am not too good with that as of yet.
[17:32] <Zirrush> yeah, xfce is nice... can run all your gtk and kde apps without blowing up your ram
[17:32] <RageMachine> Wow, never thought of ram as shrapnel
[17:32] <Zirrush> welcome to the jungle
[17:32] <RageMachine> man, that would hurt.
[17:32] <RageMachine> especially hard to explain to the doc.
[17:33] <RageMachine> 'no look, its ram. y'know memory? for a computer?' 'how'd it get in there?' 'ITS FREAKIN' SHRAPNEL!'
[17:33] <RageMachine> lol.
[17:33] <Zirrush> xfce is pretty straight forward... still using gtk for your UI, if you want eye candy you can still toss compiz and emerald on
[17:33] <Zirrush> lol
[17:34] <RageMachine> yea
[17:35] <RageMachine> on ubuntu (what i am running now) i have full blown compiz & awndock, with awn and audacious on boot. The machine is new and good, but it gets to hang for a second or two anyways, lol.
[17:35] <RageMachine> its my sisters laptop too, so i've got to make it nice and friendly, and apparently very 'cool'. lol.
[17:36] <RageMachine> I figure give her a dock and paint fire, and we're good. xD!
[17:36] <Zirrush> lol
[17:36] <RageMachine> man what a useless but awesome plugin
[17:36] <Zirrush> just toss the random color flame particles effect up... seams to impress ppl for some reason, lol
[17:36] <RageMachine> imagine explaining that to your boss, 'it increases efficiency, i swear!'
[17:36] <RageMachine> yea, i like it too >.>
[17:38] <Zirrush> I think its crazy how popular linux has gotten over the past few years
[17:38] <RageMachine> I think its good though, to an extent anyways
[17:38] <RageMachine> more hardware support, more software, more help etc.
[17:39] <Zirrush> definately a good thing though, getting more linux support for stuff and a lot more ppl coming up with ideas
[17:39] <Zirrush> yeah
[17:39] <RageMachine> just dont want it to get to the point of being the target of all viruses etc.
[17:39] <Zirrush> ubuntu forums and the #ubuntu channel kill me though, lol
[17:39] <RageMachine> I mean even then its better architecture then windows, but we'll see.
[17:39] <RageMachine> why?
[17:39] <Zirrush> the lack of using manuals and search
[17:40] <RageMachine> blah
[17:40] <RageMachine> thats should be agood sign
[17:41] <RageMachine> means we're getting more blood.
[17:41] <RageMachine> users can be just as stupid on windows
[17:41] <Zirrush> first step should be learning to think for yourself once you're on an operating system you can actually take control of though : )~
[17:41] <Zirrush> this is true
[17:41] <RageMachine> its easier to accept that some people might not read and search, perhaps point it out nicely, but to give helpful support so they will stay.
[17:42] <RageMachine> Heh, i've got a question for you now.
[17:42] <Zirrush> shoot
[17:42] <RageMachine> I've disabled gnome-panel
[17:42] <RageMachine> I have awn-dock now closed
[17:42] <RageMachine> therefore how the eff do i get it open again?
[17:42] <RageMachine> lol.
[17:42] <Zirrush> you running gnome or xfce with gnome panel? lol
[17:42] <RageMachine> gnome
[17:43] <RageMachine> plain ubuntu
[17:43] <Zirrush> xfce... just alt+f2
[17:43] <RageMachine> alt-f2 goes away when you disable gnome-panel
[17:43] <RageMachine> so unless there is a shortcut for console... lol.
[17:43] <Zirrush> hmm, gnome has to have a hotkey to run stuff
[17:45] <RageMachine> heh
[17:45] <jvin242> FooTaGe: to add, I have 8.04 running on a P2-300Mhz/256BM-Ram/6GB-HDD laptop I use for travel and running open office and giving presentations.  500mhz is probably minimum for watching youtube with some frame skipping still.
[17:45] <RageMachine> just rebooted the gui :)
[17:45] <RageMachine> its messy, but it worked
[17:45] <Zirrush> lol
[17:45] <RageMachine> alt+ctrl+bckspace ftw XD
[17:45] <Zirrush> gnome should have a hotkey that'll work without the panel to run stuff... honestly not sure though
[17:46] <Zirrush> last time i used gnome was dropline on slack
[17:46] <TheSheep> alt+f2
[17:47] <Zirrush> always used xfce in ubuntu
[17:47] <RageMachine> yea its alt-f2 if you use gnome-panel
[17:47] <RageMachine> otherwise altf2 doesnt work
[17:47] <Zirrush> well, take that back... used gnome for a little while when i first tried ubuntu
[17:48] <RageMachine> I like it, my hardware is robust enough to handle it, though I also boot xubuntu
[17:48] <TheSheep> RageMachine: alt+f2 works just fine as long as you hace xfwm4 or metacity running
[17:48] <RageMachine> and why would I have those running thesheep?
[17:48] <RageMachine> lol
[17:49] <totalwormage> gmrun++
[17:49] <Zirrush> assumption from being in #xubuntu : )~
[17:49] <TheSheep> RageMachine: in order to have the window borders and titles, the little window buttons and generaly to have your windows placed correctly on the screen
[17:49] <RageMachine> thesheep: running ubuntu btw :P
[17:49] <RageMachine> thesheep: if i wanted it easy, don't you think i'd run xubuntu? goddamnit!
[17:50] <RageMachine> xD
[17:50] <TheSheep> RageMachine: ubuntu uses metacity or compiz
[17:50] <RageMachine> using compiz
[17:50] <TheSheep> !compiz | RageMachine
[17:50] <Zirrush> << xfdesktop + emerald + compiz
[17:50] <TheSheep> :)
[17:50] <Churl2> anyone know i can get to remote desktop preferences?
[17:50] <RageMachine> ? lol.
[17:51] <zoredache> Churl2: remote desktop?
[17:51] <Zirrush> afk for a minute, need some grub
[17:51] <totalwormage> << awesome + rezlooks *^_^*
[17:51] <Churl2> remote desktop viewer
[17:51] <RageMachine> zirrush, why do you need to grab the bootloader?
[17:51] <Churl2> zoredache: does that help?
[17:53] <zoredache> what are you needing to set for remote desktop viewer
[17:54] <Churl2> zoredache: from what i understand, set it to "open" for viewing
[17:55] <zoredache> so what are wanting to setup xubuntu to accept connections?
[17:55] <zoredache> you will need to install a vnc server for that...
[17:56] <Zirrush> x11vnc still maintained?
[17:56] <zoredache> Zirrush: don't know about maintained, but I know it still works... it is what I always used
[17:56] <Zirrush> will let you use most vnc clients to connect to xorg
[17:57] <Zirrush> yeah, what i've used in the past... gonna see if its on synaptic real quick : )~
[17:57] <zoredache> it is
[17:57] <Zirrush> nice
[17:58] <RageMachine> :D on xubuntu now
[17:58] <churl> zoredache: thanks, how to's can be misleading
[17:59] <zoredache> well, howtos written for ubuntu/kubuntu don't always apply to xubuntu.
[18:00] <Churl1> zoredache: yeah, sometimes even more than others! haha
[18:00] <zoredache> churl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC?action=show&redirect=x11vnc
[18:02] <Churl1> zoredache: thanks
[19:25] <Zirrush> boredum
[20:00] <Mannequin> hi. probably after a bad shutdown, xfce4-panel and xfce4-desktop are not being loaded, as if they are not part of the saved session
[20:00] <Mannequin> I've managed to manually run xfce4-panel and xfce4-desktop, but then, when I click on the little door, to shutdown my computer, it offers to quit XFCE
[20:01] <Mannequin> (and not to shutdown the computer)
[20:31] <dstaley> Does anyone know how to do a silent, unattended install of Xubuntu?
[20:32] <zoredache> there are many ways... But one of the ways is to build up an answer file for the alternate installer
[20:33] <zoredache> dstaley: take a look at http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/394 https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-using.html
[20:34] <dstaley> I have to pass parameters to the kernel at boot time to use that method, right?
[20:35] <zoredache> yes, but you can rebuild the iso to include the options by default
[20:36] <zoredache> if you are on a network you could do everything in a dhcp+pxe enviroment and avoid the cd completely
[20:36] <zoredache> but you have to have the infrastructure to setup netbooting
[20:36] <dstaley> Well, I have a Mac with Ubuntu in a virtual machine, a laptop with a broken keyboard and touchpad, and a router.
[20:37] <zoredache> and you are wanting to install on this laptop with the broken keyboard?
[20:37] <dstaley> That is correct.
[20:38] <zoredache> perhaps a silly question, but why not simply plug a keyboard into the laptop?
[20:38] <dstaley> USB ports don't work either.
[20:38] <dstaley> So, it's pretty useless. But, I'm determined to give it a new life as a torrenting server.
[20:39] <dstaley> Transmission+Clutch Web Interface
[20:40] <zoredache> hrm...
[20:40] <zoredache> are you sure the network card will be supported?
[20:41] <zoredache> I suspect if I had to do that, I would simply remove the hard drive from the laptop, and put it in another computer, install, then return the drive to the laptop
[20:41] <dstaley> It is. I've booted the laptop from the LiveCD and I was able to ping it.
[20:42] <dstaley> And it's worked in the past.
[20:42] <dstaley> Well, it uses some weird connection type that I was only able to find in a old Toshiba from 1993
[20:42] <dstaley> So, that's out of the question.
[20:43] <dstaley> I think this preseeding method would work, though.
[20:43] <dstaley> I just need to figure out how to make it.
[20:44] <zoredache> it might be easier to simply find livecd that boots, does dhcp, and starts up an ssh server
[20:44] <zoredache> once you can ssh in you could manually install using deboostrap
[20:46] <dstaley> That does sound a whole lot easier.
[20:47] <dstaley> Thing is, I want Ubuntu. And I'm running low on blank CD's, so I can't just try a bunch of them to find one.
[20:47] <dstaley> So, would you happen to know of any?
[20:49] <zoredache> well you said you had parallels or something on your mac.  You should do your testing there.  When you can test by pointing at the iso instead of writing a cd
[20:50] <dstaley> *smacks forehead* You are 100% correct.
[21:07] <akatsuki> hello.. when i boot..its taking like 10 seconds on this.. *loading hardware drivers    [    27.213505 ]   intel-rng:  FWH not detected..... so how can i delete this? is taking 10 seconds of my boot time and its not even detecting it! how i can solve this. i will really appreciate any help, thanks
[21:15] <akatsuki> hello.. when i boot..its taking like 10 seconds on this.. *loading hardware drivers    [    27.213505 ]   intel-rng:  FWH not detected..... so how can i delete this? is taking 10 seconds of my boot time and its not even detecting it! how i can solve this. i will really appreciate any help, thanks
[21:16] <zoredache> you really don't need to repeat yourself akatsuki...  If you don't get an answer it either meas nobody in the channel knows...  You could try in #ubuntu, but it tends to be very busy there
[21:16] <akatsuki> yeahhhh
[21:16] <akatsuki> thats the reason i mhere
[21:17] <zoredache> it is an obscure question though, and it is possible that people capable of answering it don't hang out here
[21:17] <dstaley> Hey, I can install via the command line, right?
[21:18] <zoredache> dstaley: yes...
[21:19] <dstaley> zoredache: Have you heard of Reconstructor, a tool for customizing Ubuntu LiveCD's?
[21:20] <zoredache> not until just now...  What I am seeing on there web page would suggest that it might have the potential of helping you build a livecd you can use to resurect that laptop
[21:21] <dstaley> Mhmm. But I've also uncovered a tool called bootcd
[21:21] <dstaley> According to this, it takes your complete Ubuntu system and makes a LiveCD out of it.
[21:22] <dstaley> And then I can use bootcd2disk to write the LiveCD to the disk
[23:32] <PsynoKhi0> howdy
[23:36] <PsynoKhi0> kinda puzzled as to why my computer hangs in hardy as long as I have the sound module loaded, though gutsy worked just fine, if you feel like throwing food for thought, feel free
[23:37] <PsynoKhi0> the soundcard is a soundblaster 32 AWE ISA PnP