[00:00] nice typo though [00:00] lol [00:00] dyslexics untie! [00:03] JontheEchidna: drop debian/cdbs from lancelot [00:03] JontheEchidna: That's bad speelers untie!!! [00:03] JontheEchidna: libplasma-dev is a dep of kdebase-workspace-dev [00:04] apachelogger: is that a problem? [00:04] JontheEchidna: no, but one unnecessary dep making the control file crowded :P [00:04] oh [00:04] lancelot [00:04] actually I don't think it is a dep [00:05] and that python dep looks strange to me :P [00:05] it needs python at compile time [00:05] why? [00:05] to do some stuff [00:05] cool [00:05] lol [00:05] JontheEchidna: Lancelot is an alternative launcher menu <--- we already know that from the synopsis :P [00:06] cmoon, apachelogger, I'm on fire to taste the lancelot :) [00:06] libplasma-dev has Depends: libplasma2 (= 4:4.1.0-0ubuntu5), kdelibs5-dev (>= 4:4.1.0) [00:06] not kdebase-workspace-dev [00:06] read that again :P [00:06] apt-cache rdepends libplasma-dev [00:07] x depends on y not y on x :P [00:07] well then how did I have libplasma-dev installed and not kdebase-workspace-dev installed? [00:07] remove kdebase-workspace-dev? [00:08] JontheEchidna: copying file missing, btw :P [00:08] noooooo [00:08] JontheEchidna: considering it is an svn snapshot you have to provide a get-orig-source target in debian/rules [00:08] smarter can help with that [00:09] JontheEchidna: app/src/models/Devices.cpp:3: * Copyright (C) 2007 Robert Knight [00:09] robert also claims copyright on various files [00:18] apachelogger: reupped plasmoid-previewer [00:19] apachelogger: and lancelot [00:19] they're both there now [00:20] JontheEchidna: previewer testbuilt? [00:21] apachelogger: yes [00:38] apachelogger: you mean like this: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi/Svn_get-orig-source ? [00:38] evening [00:39] hi vorian [00:39] JontheEchidna: i'll check out flika [00:39] howdy [00:39] vorian: If you could, I'd like a second revu on previewer too [00:39] awesome [00:39] and lancelot [00:40] * vorian sees JontheEchidna has been busy [00:40] all work [00:40] and no play [00:40] makes Jon a dull boy [00:40] red rum! [00:42] lancelot still needs a get-orig-source target for debian/rules [00:42] mk [00:43] build twice in a row for the win [00:46] huh? [00:47] nufink [00:47] pbuilder in intrepid builds 2x [00:53] JontheEchidna: fliker plasmoid uploaded, thanks for your contribution :) [00:53] kewl [00:59] woo, my get-orig-source target works [01:00] nixternal: ping [01:07] vorian: lol @ your hackergotchi [01:07] looks evil [01:08] haha [01:08] JontheEchidna: it's just a simple chemical fire [01:08] :) [01:12] apachelogger, vorian: lancelot ready for revu (has get-original-source target) [01:12] JontheEchidna: awesome! [01:12] * vorian is doing a meeting atm, i should be able to give a look see here in a bit [01:13] wow JontheEchidna is a machine [01:13] ooh, if we wait until tomorrow we get this theme: http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2008/08/07/lancelot-3in1/ [01:13] I think we got ourselves another Kubuntu robot! and this one is named Jonathan too! [01:14] heh [01:14] I did plasmoid-previewer a while back actually [01:14] just needed some tweaking [01:14] same with flickr [01:15] anyway, do you think we should wait until tomorrow for the new lancelot theme? http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/lancelot-41-oxygen.jpg [01:17] all the Jonathans here are pretty cool people btw [01:17] but one thing I can't believe is [01:17] that we all have the same way of spelling "Jonathan" [02:28] JontheEchidna: plasmoid-previewer: extended-description-line-too-long [02:28] bah [02:42] apachelogger: need ACK 2.0 on previewer [02:54] ryanakca: ping [03:11] neversfelde: pong [06:14] * Serega yaws [06:14] good morning === Serega__ is now known as Serega [08:19] Serega_: Dude... === Serega__ is now known as Serega [08:21] jpds: hey [08:22] Having a bad connection day? ;-= [09:00] jpds: ah, yep, sorry :( [10:35] heya [12:20] mornin' [12:22] nixternal: remind me to go to Akademy [12:23] Riddell: go to akademy :) [12:23] * nixternal will be at the next one [12:23] I am officially and employee now for the company I work, so I have unlimited vacation time just for the free software world :) [12:24] that sounds like it could be easily abused [12:24] hehe, but I won't [12:24] just leaving it open for Akademy and UDS [12:25] * Riddell catches a train to Belgium [12:26] have fun and tell everyone I said hi! [12:26] tot zeins [12:26] wasabi vorian, you ponged me last night [12:26] and morning too [12:26] uh [12:27] oh, we had a membership meeting last night [12:27] ya, effie told me [12:27] i was trying to find enough folks [12:27] hey, if I am not around when there is a meeting, hit me up on IM as that goes to my blackberry [12:27] ok! good to know [12:27] I was here with IRC open, but was writing code for work and lost track of time [12:27] or if i'm feeling alone, and scared. [12:28] hehe, that's hard to do [12:28] also you can always hit me up at +1 630 445 3860 to get my attention [12:28] lol [12:28] :) [13:26] Riddell: there? === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [13:51] hi all [13:51] does anyone knows when Qt 4.4.1 packages will be available in hardy backports? [13:58] Woo, Adept bugs are down to 2 pages in Launchpad. [13:58] JontheEchidna: yay for lower adept bugs :0 [13:59] Once 3.0 hits we'll be able to close maybe 10 more [14:00] JontheEchidna: That's sorting the duplicates only? [14:00] I don't get notifications from launchpad, so I have no idea... [14:01] I've been going through looking for duplicates today [14:01] everybody and their mom seemed to get the same crash when an update was almost finished [14:01] Anyway, current bug count including wishlist items and not including dupes in 150 bugs [14:04] \o/ another dupe of bug 120076 [14:04] Launchpad bug 120076 in adept "Adept crash (proboperbly when its copyng files)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120076 [14:05] wow, it has 7 dupes now [14:11] Oh, hm, there's no kdesu in KDE4? [14:12] Or, where would I find it? [14:13] Hm, there has to be some. [14:16] There's a kdesu binary in kdesudo that basically symlinks to kdesudo [14:16] other than that I can't find any other kdesu binary [14:20] Yes, there ain't any. It's in a lib only... [14:51] Riddell: knetworkmanager did not build. It ties to copy /usr/share/libtool/ltmain.sh but in hardy that's now /usr/share/libtool/config/ltmain.sh. AFAIR that a cdbs peace of code that fails. [14:52] s/in hardy/in intrpid/ [14:56] mornfall: there is not kdesu in Kubuntu, it's replaced by kdesudo. I'm pretty sure it's still in vanilla kde 4 [14:57] unfortunately kdesudo + adept3 = borkage [14:57] maybe tonio can help with that? [14:58] yeah, haven't been able to get a hold of him though [15:01] but it really needs to be done in order to prevent stuff like bug 203331 [15:01] Launchpad bug 203331 in adept "Hardy: Running sudo adept_updater / adept_manager etc. under non-KDE sets group/user of .ICEauthority to 'root'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/203331 [15:01] * JontheEchidna got bit by that one back when he was newish to ubuntu [15:02] work is so much fun on a friday [15:02] !visternal [15:02] Oh no! The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived! He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too! [15:02] * Hobbsee points and clicks on nixternal [15:02] * nixternal reboots [15:03] * Hobbsee double clicks [15:03] * nixternal blue screens [15:03] oh dear. [15:03] * Hobbsee tripple clicks [15:04] * nixternal catches fires [15:04] so, why do people want to use vista again? [15:04] * Hobbsee clicks and drags nixternal into the trash. [15:04] it makes a great space heater in the winter [15:05] no more windows for me, except for XP in VirtualBox so I can smoke test our WebDav software before releasing it to QA [15:05] luckely I can do 99.9% of the WebDav smoke tests with cadaver though [15:05] hurrah! [15:06] being a pointy-clicky XP lover would suck [15:06] not as much as being a vistalover though :P [15:06] Windows XP is better than Linux any day of the week [15:06] Vista is even better [15:06] :P [15:07] * nixternal runs [15:07] * Hobbsee contacts the tech board [15:07] hahahaha [15:07] NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! [15:07] lol [15:07] I haven't been using my core-dev powers much, but I shall start back up very soon :) [15:07] hah [15:07] you wish! :P [15:09] oooh, new lancelot theme is spiffy [15:11] nixternal: I hear the .NET installer works in WINE now, so you should be more comfortable with the Linux thing you may have heard about. [15:14] grr, darn photobucket [15:15] * allee soon has a knetworkmanger patch for nixternal so he can exersise he core-dev power eventually again [15:16] eh, lintian does not like knetworkmanger :( [15:16] ScottK: I will have to try hat :P [15:17] allee: nothing likes knetworkmangler :P [15:17] :) [15:19] * JontheEchidna wants the nm plasmoid [15:20] JontheEchidna: have you tried it? [15:20] nope, which is why I want it :P [15:22] nixternal: quick and dirty 'only fix FTBFS' for knetworkmanger: http://paste.debian.net/14234 === Czessi__ is now known as Czessi [15:25] yay, I wanted to watch the olympics on my computer, but I need silverlight :/ [15:25] yay [15:25] that's what vmware is for :) [15:25] I have XP in VirtualBox, but I have the sound disabled [15:25] boycott teh olympics!1!! [15:25] haha [15:25] my buddy said this to me last night "I am boycotting the Olympics by not participating" [15:25] or watch it on a real box? [15:26] he is a big dude, so it was quite hillarious [15:26] Hobbsee: don't have a real box here at my desk at work :( [15:27] sling box it :) [15:29] tonio [15:29] * JontheEchidna has to reset router [15:43] JontheEchidna: previewer uploaded [15:43] cool, thx [15:44] new upload of lancelot should hit revu soonish [15:45] JontheEchidna: including COPYING? [15:45] nope [15:46] but I do have a get-orig-source target [15:46] cool [15:46] JontheEchidna: just fyi, lancelot ftb (with the glorious pbulider 2x) [15:46] JontheEchidna: what's with toggle-compositing and emailnotify on revu? [15:46] apachelogger: KDE 4.1 incompatible [15:46] vorian: did you rerevu monkeystudio yet? [15:46] JontheEchidna: archiving then [15:47] yes, also ftb with pbuilder 2x [15:47] i memo'd drebellion the buildlog [15:47] vorian: got any logs as to why it ftbfs? [15:47] JontheEchidna: sure, hold please [15:47] ok, :P [15:48] vorian: he's in the us for the next 3 weeks or something [15:48] arrgh [15:48] vorian: what is the status of kio-ftps? [15:48] no word from upstream [15:48] -.- [15:48] i say we make it a intrepid+1 target [15:49] we don't have any ftps slave in intrepid then :S [15:49] unless you want me to change some things around [15:50] well [15:50] you could just add the LGPL [15:50] yeah, repackage it [15:50] and from my POV - if upstream doesn't declare his copyrights properly they just don't have any [15:51] maybe mention him as tarball publisher or something [15:51] repack it, send it to upstream with a bill for $100 [15:51] apachelogger: had a chance to peek at origami? [15:51] depends on the time you need, doesn't it :P [15:52] vorian: I just got home [15:52] ah, welcome home :) [15:52] JontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/35559/ [15:52] the thing to note is the second build [15:53] blah, pythonl..... [15:53] vorian: please drop me the monkey buildlog [15:53] kk [15:53] Hmm, Olympics. [15:54] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/34974/ [15:54] Ok, so the python files that Lancelot generates during install aren't being deleted... [15:54] this is going to be a pain... [15:54] JontheEchidna: use don't compress in rules [15:55] * vorian must run to work! [15:55] see ya tonight [15:55] vorian: origami doesn't need a 2nd revu [15:55] it's a package update apaprently [15:55] *apparently [15:55] hmm? [15:56] vorian: I'm using cdbs [15:56] vorian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/35560/ [15:56] JontheEchidna: you can still use a rule to avoid compressing python [15:56] new versions only need a sponsor [15:56] how would I do that? [15:56] and [15:56] apachelogger: it's not in ubuntu [15:57] sigh [15:57] ah [15:57] then this changelog is wrong [15:57] completely [15:57] he packager is also the upstream [15:57] the* [15:57] i've told him to keep seperate changelogs [15:57] yeah, strange thing is he patches his own software :P [15:58] anyway, got to run [15:58] Anybody know how I can avoid compressing those python binaries? [15:58] in debian/rules? [16:02] JontheEchidna: CDBS? [16:02] does anyone knows when Qt 4.4.1 packages will be available in hardy backports? [16:03] JontheEchidna: If so, DEB_COMPRESS_EXCLUDE := .py [16:06] thanks [17:36] after latest upgrade, i got errors trying to log in. this was because /home did not mount. It couldnt mount because fsck was running on the lv, reporting it as busy - are disk checks put into the background now? [17:37] and with that... :) [18:12] JontheEchidna: if you still need a help for a get-orig-source/svn see for example guidance-power-manager's debian/rules which has both [18:12] and, hi everyone (: [18:12] smarter: nope, I got it by myself + google ;) [18:12] <3 google [18:13] ok, cool [18:20] but thanks for the offer to help all the same [18:28] yw ;) [18:32] man, get-orig-source is handy [18:56] does anyone knows when Qt 4.4.1 packages will be available in hardy backports? [21:13] nixternal: any part of your job making printing PDFs on RHEL not suck? [21:14] my solution: printing in Okular to a dumber pdf, and printing that from RHEL [21:14] nope, everything here is "server based" [21:14] yay for me...I have written 1,300 lines of Python in less than 6 hours [21:17] f = file('lotsofcode.py','w'); f.write('\#!/usr/bin/python'); for i in range(1300): f.write('pass\n') [21:17] f.close() [21:17] lol [21:54] we need an entertainment system [22:36] * kde-nightly-kdepimlibs-dbg_20080808+svn844125-0neon1_i386.deb (22.3 MiB) [22:36] * apachelogger is getting somewhere [22:45] on hardy with kde 3.5.9, I cannot choose the system to reboot on in the extinction menu in KDE [22:45] if i choose windows for example, in the list of the reset option, nothing happens [22:45] with 'escape' i come back to the desktop [22:45] but cannot log off anymore [22:45] I have to kill X [22:46] but the reset selection works well in KDM [22:46] I cannt choose to reboot on windows, and the PC starts reboot well [22:46] rebooting* [22:46] #kubuntu for support [22:47] I remember this issus has been solved in a former release of kubuntu [22:47] it's not a config problem, I really this it's a bug [22:47] really think* [22:49] report a bug then [22:49] or [22:49] actually reopen the old one [22:50] yes I'll o [22:50] do [22:52] * apachelogger pokes jtechidna with bug 95481 [22:52] Launchpad bug 95481 in kdebase "Incorrect rendering in Konqueror metabar" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95481 [22:52] that one is k-d-s [22:52] the kubuntu metabar theme is b0rked [22:52] not kdebase [22:52] please move it back [22:52] ah, ok. My bad [22:53] I should have read more carefully [22:54] apachelogger: wich package should it be ? kdebase ? [22:56] kubuntu-default-settings [22:56] I just moved it back [22:59] oh, unless you were talking about a different bug [22:59] nevermind [23:00] I was [23:00] I just put kdebase [23:07] brb [23:30] wow, new bugs in LP are down to 48%