[00:00] <apachelogger> nice typo though
[00:00] <JontheEchidna> lol
[00:00] <JontheEchidna> dyslexics untie!
[00:03] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: drop debian/cdbs from lancelot
[00:03] <kduser> JontheEchidna: That's bad speelers untie!!!
[00:03] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: libplasma-dev is a dep of kdebase-workspace-dev
[00:04] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: is that a problem?
[00:04] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: no, but one unnecessary dep making the control file crowded :P
[00:04] <JontheEchidna> oh
[00:04] <JontheEchidna> lancelot
[00:04] <JontheEchidna> actually I don't think it is a dep
[00:05] <apachelogger> and that python dep looks strange to me :P
[00:05] <JontheEchidna> it needs python at compile time
[00:05] <apachelogger> why?
[00:05] <JontheEchidna> to do some stuff
[00:05] <apachelogger> cool
[00:05] <JontheEchidna> lol
[00:05] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: Lancelot is an alternative launcher menu  <--- we already know that from the synopsis :P
[00:06] <Serega> cmoon, apachelogger, I'm on fire to taste the lancelot :)
[00:06] <JontheEchidna> libplasma-dev has Depends: libplasma2 (= 4:4.1.0-0ubuntu5), kdelibs5-dev (>= 4:4.1.0)
[00:06] <JontheEchidna> not kdebase-workspace-dev
[00:06] <apachelogger> read that again :P
[00:06] <apachelogger> apt-cache rdepends libplasma-dev
[00:07] <apachelogger> x depends on y not y on x :P
[00:07] <JontheEchidna> well then how did I have libplasma-dev installed and not kdebase-workspace-dev installed?
[00:07] <apachelogger> remove kdebase-workspace-dev?
[00:08] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: copying file missing, btw :P
[00:08] <JontheEchidna> noooooo
[00:08] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: considering it is an svn snapshot you have to provide a get-orig-source target in debian/rules
[00:08] <apachelogger> smarter can help with that
[00:09] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: app/src/models/Devices.cpp:3: *   Copyright (C) 2007 Robert Knight <robertknight@gmail.com>
[00:09] <apachelogger> robert also claims copyright on various files
[00:18] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: reupped plasmoid-previewer
[00:19] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: and lancelot
[00:19] <JontheEchidna> they're both there now
[00:20] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: previewer testbuilt?
[00:21] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: yes
[00:38] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: you mean like this: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi/Svn_get-orig-source ?
[00:38] <vorian> evening
[00:39] <JontheEchidna> hi vorian
[00:39] <vorian> JontheEchidna: i'll check out flika
[00:39] <vorian> howdy
[00:39] <JontheEchidna> vorian: If you could, I'd like a second revu on previewer too
[00:39] <vorian> awesome
[00:39] <vorian> and lancelot
[00:40]  * vorian sees JontheEchidna has been busy
[00:40] <vorian> all work
[00:40] <vorian> and no play
[00:40] <vorian> makes Jon a dull boy
[00:40] <vorian> red rum!
[00:42] <JontheEchidna> lancelot still needs a get-orig-source target for debian/rules
[00:42] <vorian> mk
[00:43] <vorian> build twice in a row for the win
[00:46] <JontheEchidna> huh?
[00:47] <vorian> nufink
[00:47] <vorian> pbuilder in intrepid builds 2x
[00:53] <vorian> JontheEchidna: fliker plasmoid uploaded, thanks for your contribution :)
[00:53] <JontheEchidna> kewl
[00:59] <JontheEchidna> woo, my get-orig-source target works
[01:00] <vorian> nixternal: ping
[01:07] <JontheEchidna> vorian: lol @ your hackergotchi
[01:07] <JontheEchidna> looks evil
[01:08] <vorian> haha
[01:08] <vorian> JontheEchidna: it's just a simple chemical fire
[01:08] <vorian> :)
[01:12] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger, vorian: lancelot ready for revu (has get-original-source target)
[01:12] <vorian> JontheEchidna: awesome!
[01:12]  * vorian is doing a meeting atm, i should be able to give a look see here in a bit
[01:13] <yuriy> wow JontheEchidna is a machine
[01:13] <JontheEchidna> ooh, if we wait until tomorrow we get this theme: http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/2008/08/07/lancelot-3in1/
[01:13] <yuriy> I think we got ourselves another Kubuntu robot! and this one is named Jonathan too!
[01:14] <JontheEchidna> heh
[01:14] <JontheEchidna> I did plasmoid-previewer a while back actually
[01:14] <JontheEchidna> just needed some tweaking
[01:14] <JontheEchidna> same with flickr
[01:15] <JontheEchidna> anyway, do you think we should wait until tomorrow for the new lancelot theme? http://ivan.fomentgroup.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/lancelot-41-oxygen.jpg
[01:17] <JontheEchidna> all the Jonathans here are pretty cool people btw
[01:17] <JontheEchidna> but one thing I can't believe is
[01:17] <JontheEchidna> that we all have the same way of spelling "Jonathan"
[02:28] <vorian> JontheEchidna: plasmoid-previewer: extended-description-line-too-long
[02:28] <JontheEchidna> bah
[02:42] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: need ACK 2.0 on previewer
[02:54] <neversfelde> ryanakca: ping
[03:11] <ryanakca> neversfelde: pong
[06:14]  * Serega yaws
[06:14] <Serega> good morning
[08:19] <jpds> Serega_: Dude...
[08:21] <Serega> jpds: hey
[08:22] <jpds> Having a bad connection day? ;-=
[09:00] <Serega_> jpds: ah, yep, sorry :(
[10:35] <Serega> heya
[12:20] <nixternal> mornin'
[12:22] <Riddell> nixternal: remind me to go to Akademy
[12:23] <nixternal> Riddell: go to akademy :)
[12:23]  * nixternal will be at the next one
[12:23] <nixternal> I am officially and employee now for the company I work, so I have unlimited vacation time just for the free software world :)
[12:24] <Riddell> that sounds like it could be easily abused
[12:24] <nixternal> hehe, but I won't
[12:24] <nixternal> just leaving it open for Akademy and UDS
[12:25]  * Riddell catches a train to Belgium
[12:26] <nixternal> have fun and tell everyone I said hi!
[12:26] <vorian> tot zeins
[12:26] <nixternal> wasabi vorian, you ponged me last night
[12:26] <vorian> and morning too
[12:26] <vorian> uh
[12:27] <vorian> oh, we had a membership meeting last night
[12:27] <nixternal> ya, effie told me
[12:27] <vorian> i was trying to find enough folks
[12:27] <nixternal> hey, if I am not around when there is a meeting, hit me up on IM as that goes to my blackberry
[12:27] <vorian> ok! good to know
[12:27] <nixternal> I was here with IRC open, but was writing code for work and lost track of time
[12:27] <vorian> or if i'm feeling alone, and scared.
[12:28] <vorian> hehe, that's hard to do
[12:28] <nixternal> also you can always hit me up at +1 630 445 3860 to get my attention
[12:28] <nixternal> lol
[12:28] <vorian> :)
[13:26] <devfil> Riddell: there?
[13:51] <dschulz> hi all
[13:51] <dschulz> does anyone knows when Qt 4.4.1 packages will be available in hardy backports?
[13:58] <JontheEchidna> Woo, Adept bugs are down to 2 pages in Launchpad.
[13:58] <jjesse> JontheEchidna: yay for lower adept bugs :0
[13:59] <JontheEchidna> Once 3.0 hits we'll be able to close maybe 10 more
[14:00] <mornfall> JontheEchidna: That's sorting the duplicates only?
[14:00] <mornfall> I don't get notifications from launchpad, so I have no idea...
[14:01] <JontheEchidna> I've been going through looking for duplicates today
[14:01] <JontheEchidna> everybody and their mom seemed to get the same crash when an update was almost finished
[14:01] <JontheEchidna> Anyway, current bug count including wishlist items and not including dupes in 150 bugs
[14:04] <JontheEchidna> \o/ another dupe of bug 120076
[14:05] <JontheEchidna> wow, it has 7 dupes now
[14:11] <mornfall> Oh, hm, there's no kdesu in KDE4?
[14:12] <mornfall> Or, where would I find it?
[14:13] <mornfall> Hm, there has to be some.
[14:16] <JontheEchidna> There's a kdesu binary in kdesudo that basically symlinks to kdesudo
[14:16] <JontheEchidna> other than that I can't find any other kdesu binary
[14:20] <mornfall> Yes, there ain't any. It's in a lib only...
[14:51] <allee> Riddell: knetworkmanager did not build.  It ties to copy /usr/share/libtool/ltmain.sh but in hardy that's now /usr/share/libtool/config/ltmain.sh.  AFAIR that a cdbs peace of code that fails.
[14:52] <allee> s/in hardy/in intrpid/
[14:56] <yuriy> mornfall: there is not kdesu in Kubuntu, it's replaced by kdesudo. I'm pretty sure it's still in vanilla kde 4
[14:57] <JontheEchidna> unfortunately kdesudo + adept3 = borkage
[14:57] <yuriy> maybe tonio can help with that?
[14:58] <JontheEchidna> yeah, haven't been able to get a hold of him though
[15:01] <JontheEchidna> but it really needs to be done in order to prevent stuff like bug 203331
[15:01]  * JontheEchidna got bit by that one back when he was newish to ubuntu
[15:02] <nixternal> work is so much fun on a friday
[15:02] <Hobbsee> !visternal
[15:02]  * Hobbsee points and clicks on nixternal
[15:02]  * nixternal reboots
[15:03]  * Hobbsee double clicks
[15:03]  * nixternal blue screens
[15:03] <Hobbsee> oh dear.
[15:03]  * Hobbsee tripple clicks
[15:04]  * nixternal catches fires
[15:04] <Hobbsee> so, why do people want to use vista again?
[15:04]  * Hobbsee clicks and drags nixternal into the trash.
[15:04] <nixternal> it makes a great space heater in the winter
[15:05] <nixternal> no more windows for me, except for XP in VirtualBox so I can smoke test our WebDav software before releasing it to QA
[15:05] <nixternal> luckely I can do 99.9% of the WebDav smoke tests with cadaver though
[15:05] <Hobbsee> hurrah!
[15:06] <JontheEchidna> being a pointy-clicky XP lover would suck
[15:06] <JontheEchidna> not as much as being a vistalover though :P
[15:06] <nixternal> Windows XP is better than Linux any day of the week
[15:06] <nixternal> Vista is even better
[15:06] <JontheEchidna> :P
[15:07]  * nixternal runs
[15:07]  * Hobbsee contacts the tech board
[15:07] <nixternal> hahahaha
[15:07] <nixternal> NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
[15:07] <JontheEchidna> lol
[15:07] <nixternal> I haven't been using my core-dev powers much, but I shall start back up very soon :)
[15:07] <Hobbsee> hah
[15:07] <Hobbsee> you wish!  :P
[15:09] <JontheEchidna> oooh, new lancelot theme is spiffy
[15:11] <ScottK> nixternal: I hear the .NET installer works in WINE now, so you should be more comfortable with the Linux thing you may have heard about.
[15:14] <JontheEchidna> grr, darn photobucket
[15:15]  * allee soon has a knetworkmanger patch for nixternal so he can exersise he core-dev power eventually again
[15:16] <allee> eh, lintian does not like knetworkmanger :(
[15:16] <nixternal> ScottK: I will have to try hat :P
[15:17] <nixternal> allee: nothing likes knetworkmangler :P
[15:17] <allee> :)
[15:19]  * JontheEchidna wants the nm plasmoid
[15:20] <yuriy> JontheEchidna: have you tried it?
[15:20] <JontheEchidna> nope, which is why I want it :P
[15:22] <allee> nixternal: quick and dirty 'only fix FTBFS' for knetworkmanger:  http://paste.debian.net/14234
[15:25] <nixternal> yay, I wanted to watch the olympics on my computer, but I need silverlight :/
[15:25] <jjesse> yay
[15:25] <jjesse> that's what vmware is for :)
[15:25] <nixternal> I have XP in VirtualBox, but I have the sound disabled
[15:25] <JontheEchidna> boycott teh olympics!1!!
[15:25] <nixternal> haha
[15:25] <nixternal> my buddy said this to me last night "I am boycotting the Olympics by not participating"
[15:25] <Hobbsee> or watch it on a real box?
[15:26] <nixternal> he is a big dude, so it was quite hillarious
[15:26] <nixternal> Hobbsee: don't have a real box here at my desk at work :(
[15:27] <jjesse> sling box it :)
[15:29] <allee> tonio
[15:29]  * JontheEchidna has to reset router
[15:43] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: previewer uploaded
[15:43] <JontheEchidna> cool, thx
[15:44] <JontheEchidna> new upload of lancelot should hit revu soonish
[15:45] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: including COPYING?
[15:45] <JontheEchidna> nope
[15:46] <JontheEchidna> but I do have a get-orig-source target
[15:46] <apachelogger> cool
[15:46] <vorian> JontheEchidna: just fyi, lancelot ftb (with the glorious pbulider 2x)
[15:46] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: what's with toggle-compositing and emailnotify on revu?
[15:46] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: KDE 4.1 incompatible
[15:46] <apachelogger> vorian: did you rerevu monkeystudio yet?
[15:46] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: archiving then
[15:47] <vorian> yes, also ftb with pbuilder 2x
[15:47] <vorian> i memo'd drebellion the buildlog
[15:47] <JontheEchidna> vorian: got any logs as to why it ftbfs?
[15:47] <vorian> JontheEchidna: sure, hold please
[15:47] <JontheEchidna> ok, :P
[15:48] <apachelogger> vorian: he's in the us for the next 3 weeks or something
[15:48] <vorian> arrgh
[15:48] <apachelogger> vorian: what is the status of kio-ftps?
[15:48] <vorian> no word from upstream
[15:48] <apachelogger> -.-
[15:48] <vorian> i say we make it a intrepid+1 target
[15:49] <apachelogger> we don't have any ftps slave in intrepid then :S
[15:49] <vorian> unless you want me to change some things around
[15:50] <apachelogger> well
[15:50] <apachelogger> you could just add the LGPL
[15:50] <vorian> yeah, repackage it
[15:50] <apachelogger> and from my POV - if upstream doesn't declare his copyrights properly they just don't have any
[15:51] <apachelogger> maybe mention him as tarball publisher or something
[15:51] <vorian> repack it, send it to upstream with a bill for $100
[15:51] <vorian> apachelogger: had a chance to peek at origami?
[15:51] <apachelogger> depends on the time you need, doesn't it :P
[15:52] <apachelogger> vorian: I just got home
[15:52] <vorian> ah, welcome home :)
[15:52] <vorian> JontheEchidna: http://paste.ubuntu.com/35559/
[15:52] <vorian> the thing to note is the second build
[15:53] <JontheEchidna> blah, pythonl.....
[15:53] <apachelogger> vorian: please drop me the monkey buildlog
[15:53] <vorian> kk
[15:53] <jpds> Hmm, Olympics.
[15:54] <vorian> apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/34974/
[15:54] <JontheEchidna> Ok, so the python files that Lancelot generates during install aren't being deleted...
[15:54] <JontheEchidna> this is going to be a pain...
[15:54] <vorian> JontheEchidna: use don't compress in rules
[15:55]  * vorian must run to work!
[15:55] <vorian> see ya tonight
[15:55] <apachelogger> vorian: origami doesn't need a 2nd revu
[15:55] <apachelogger> it's a package update apaprently
[15:55] <apachelogger> *apparently
[15:55] <vorian> hmm?
[15:56] <JontheEchidna> vorian: I'm using cdbs
[15:56] <apachelogger> vorian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/35560/
[15:56] <vorian> JontheEchidna: you can still use a rule to avoid compressing python
[15:56] <apachelogger> new versions only need a sponsor
[15:56] <JontheEchidna> how would I do that?
[15:56] <apachelogger> and
[15:56] <vorian> apachelogger: it's not in ubuntu
[15:57] <vorian> sigh
[15:57] <apachelogger> ah
[15:57] <apachelogger> then this changelog is wrong
[15:57] <apachelogger> completely
[15:57] <vorian> he packager is also the upstream
[15:57] <vorian> the*
[15:57] <vorian> i've told him to keep seperate changelogs
[15:57] <apachelogger> yeah, strange thing is he patches his own software :P
[15:58] <vorian> anyway, got to run
[15:58] <JontheEchidna> Anybody know how I can avoid compressing those python binaries?
[15:58] <JontheEchidna> in debian/rules?
[16:02] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: CDBS?
[16:02] <dschulz> does anyone knows when Qt 4.4.1 packages will be available in hardy backports?
[16:03] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: If so, DEB_COMPRESS_EXCLUDE := .py
[16:06] <JontheEchidna> thanks
[17:36] <thefish> after latest upgrade, i got errors trying to log in. this was because /home did not mount. It couldnt mount because fsck was running on the lv, reporting it as busy - are disk checks put into the background now?
[17:37] <thefish> and with that... :)
[18:12] <smarter> JontheEchidna: if you still need a help for a get-orig-source/svn see for example guidance-power-manager's debian/rules which has  both
[18:12] <smarter> and, hi everyone (:
[18:12] <JontheEchidna> smarter: nope, I got it by myself + google ;)
[18:12] <JontheEchidna> <3 google
[18:13] <smarter> ok, cool
[18:20] <JontheEchidna> but thanks for the offer to help all the same
[18:28] <smarter> yw ;)
[18:32] <JontheEchidna> man, get-orig-source is handy
[18:56] <dschulz> does anyone knows when Qt 4.4.1 packages will be available in hardy backports?
[21:13] <yuriy> nixternal: any part of your job making printing PDFs on RHEL not suck?
[21:14] <yuriy> my solution: printing in Okular to a dumber pdf, and printing that from RHEL
[21:14] <nixternal> nope, everything here is "server based"
[21:14] <nixternal> yay for me...I have written 1,300 lines of Python in less than 6 hours
[21:17] <yuriy> f = file('lotsofcode.py','w'); f.write('\#!/usr/bin/python'); for i in range(1300): f.write('pass\n')
[21:17] <yuriy> f.close()
[21:17] <jtechidna> lol
[21:54] <apachelogger> we need an entertainment system
[22:36] <apachelogger>     *  kde-nightly-kdepimlibs-dbg_20080808+svn844125-0neon1_i386.deb  (22.3 MiB)
[22:36]  * apachelogger is getting somewhere
[22:45] <Dekans> on hardy with kde 3.5.9, I cannot choose the system to reboot on in the extinction menu in KDE
[22:45] <Dekans> if i choose windows for example, in the list of the reset option, nothing happens
[22:45] <Dekans> with 'escape' i come back to the desktop
[22:45] <Dekans> but cannot log off anymore
[22:45] <Dekans> I have to kill X
[22:46] <Dekans> but the reset selection works well in KDM
[22:46] <Dekans> I cannt choose to reboot on windows, and the PC starts reboot well
[22:46] <Dekans> rebooting*
[22:46] <apachelogger> #kubuntu for support
[22:47] <Dekans> I remember this issus has been solved in a former release of kubuntu
[22:47] <Dekans> it's not a config problem, I really this it's a bug
[22:47] <Dekans> really think*
[22:49] <apachelogger> report a bug then
[22:49] <apachelogger> or
[22:49] <apachelogger> actually reopen the old one
[22:50] <Dekans> yes I'll o
[22:50] <Dekans> do
[22:52]  * apachelogger pokes jtechidna with bug 95481
[22:52] <apachelogger> that one is k-d-s
[22:52] <apachelogger> the kubuntu metabar theme is b0rked
[22:52] <apachelogger> not kdebase
[22:52] <apachelogger> please move it back
[22:52] <jtechidna> ah, ok. My bad
[22:53] <jtechidna> I should have read more carefully
[22:54] <Dekans> apachelogger: wich package should it be ? kdebase ?
[22:56] <jtechidna> kubuntu-default-settings
[22:56] <jtechidna> I just moved it back
[22:59] <jtechidna> oh, unless you were talking about a different bug
[22:59] <jtechidna> nevermind
[23:00] <Dekans> I was
[23:00] <Dekans> I just put kdebase
[23:07] <jtechidna> brb
[23:30] <JontheEchidna> wow, new bugs in LP are down to 48%