| Hobbsee | right. now iv'e been hit by this lack fo keyboard for X thing...what was the solution? :) | 00:49 |
|---|---|---|
| RAOF | Let me grab it... | 00:49 |
| RAOF | Option "AllowEmptyInput" "boolean" | 00:51 |
| RAOF | In ServerFlags | 00:51 |
| RAOF | You want to set that to false. | 00:52 |
| Hobbsee | hmmm. i wonder what the actual syntax for that is. i thought there was an EndServerFlags or something too | 00:52 |
| RAOF | Section "ServerFlags" | 00:53 |
| RAOF | foo | 00:53 |
| RAOF | EndSection | 00:53 |
| Hobbsee | RAOF: thanks, that's worked. | 00:57 |
| cwillu_ | how much success am I likely to have running intrepids kernel + modules in hardy? | 00:57 |
| cwillu_ | I'm trying to troubleshoot a suspend issue, and have the crazy notion that a newer kernel might have it fixed | 00:58 |
| RAOF | An entirely unsupported amount of success. | 00:58 |
| cwillu_ | of course | 00:58 |
| RAOF | It may well work, however. | 00:58 |
| cwillu_ | let me rephrase | 00:58 |
| cwillu_ | if I do that, do I need to muck about with libc, or is just installing the kernel debs likely to be enough (in an completely unsupported sense) | 00:59 |
| RAOF | The latter. | 00:59 |
| cwillu_ | oh, goodie | 00:59 |
| cwillu_ | always an exciting day, the day I first make an unholy mix of ubuntu + ubuntu+1 | 01:01 |
| JontheEchidna | = 2ubuntu + 1 :P | 01:01 |
| cwillu_ | well, recall that ubuntu = 8.04.1, and ubuntu+1 == 8.10 | 01:02 |
| JontheEchidna | you have a point | 01:03 |
| * cwillu_ hits apply | 01:04 | |
| cwillu_ | oooo! | 01:12 |
| cwillu_ | it turned off! | 01:13 |
| crimsun | cwillu_: technically it's 8.04 (the point releases don't change the LSB Release | 01:13 |
| cwillu_ | and it almost turned back on! | 01:14 |
| cwillu_ | and blindly shutdown -h now<enter> made it turn off again! | 01:15 |
| * cwillu_ does a happy dance | 01:15 | |
| cwillu_ | now to see if nvidia wants to join the party :p | 01:15 |
| cwillu_ | hmm | 01:16 |
| * RAOF 's laptop both suspends _and_ resumes with nvidia-glx-177 at the moment. | 01:16 | |
| cwillu_ | that looks an awful lot like compiz | 01:16 |
| * cwillu_ clicks suspend | 01:17 | |
| * cwillu_ looks at the blinking power light | 01:17 | |
| * cwillu_ clicks the power light button ish thing | 01:17 | |
| cwillu_ | A PASSWORD PROMPT! | 01:17 |
| * cwillu_ huggles RAOF | 01:17 | |
| crimsun | RAOF: as does mine, but it's using 169.12 from -proposed | 01:17 |
| RAOF | crimsun: That's because you're a cowering Hardy user. Real men use Intrepid, and don't have working keyboards or mice in X! | 01:18 |
| JontheEchidna | heh | 01:20 |
| zerwas | Are there plans to use empathy instead of Pidgin in Intrepid? | 01:22 |
| RAOF | I don't believe so, no. | 01:23 |
| RAOF | I think that empathy will likely replace pidgin at some point, but not right now. | 01:24 |
| zerwas | RAOF: that's also what i think | 01:24 |
| zerwas | let's see how it goes with farsight | 01:25 |
| * cwillu_ huggles RAOF again | 01:25 | |
| crimsun | RAOF: it's hard to break others' computers if one's doesn't even boot ;) | 01:26 |
| * cwillu_ huggles RAOF again and again and again\ | 01:32 | |
| mbrigdan | how exactly does pbuilder work? | 01:34 |
| JontheEchidna | It creates a minimal ubuntu installation, and then builds your package | 01:35 |
| mbrigdan | ah | 01:35 |
| JontheEchidna | well, more of a minimal package system | 01:36 |
| mbrigdan | so I just use pbuilder, and don't need to chroot or something? | 01:36 |
| JontheEchidna | right | 01:37 |
| JontheEchidna | it does that stuff for you | 01:37 |
| mbrigdan | I do need to be in the right dir though, right? (right as in where I created the pbuilder thing) | 01:37 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, I don't know | 01:38 |
| JontheEchidna | it doesn't hurt I guess | 01:38 |
| RAOF | mbrigdan: No, you don't need to be in the right dir; pbuilder uses a bunch of conf files to determine what you mean. | 01:39 |
| mbrigdan | ah, ok | 01:40 |
| cwillu_ | hmm | 01:40 |
| cwillu_ | didn't notice that ndiswrapper isn't working | 01:40 |
| JontheEchidna | pbuilder ususally just works for me :P | 01:40 |
| mbrigdan | I just built bc (a calc app, I think) for intrepid. I'm going to guess that no-one needs it and that I have no reason to hold on to it anymore? | 01:48 |
| cwillu_ | mbrigdan, you're gonna drop the arbitrary precision calculator? | 01:49 |
| cwillu_ | you animal! | 01:49 |
| mbrigdan | just the .deb for intrepid, which i'm not using | 01:50 |
| mbrigdan | wow, bc is fast | 01:50 |
| ganymede | hello, i'm not too familiar with ubuntu since i do not use it frequently, but is there any plan to use a C-based system script system, so that system scripts do not have to be interpretted, thus speeding up start up times? | 01:51 |
| cwillu_ | ganymede, system startup is io bound | 01:53 |
| cwillu_ | ganymede, there's no gains to be had from that | 01:53 |
| rraj-be | i want to help ubuntu by reporting bugs in ubuntu 8.10. . . . Where can i get ubuntu 8.10 for this | 01:55 |
| ganymede | cwillu_: in theory, yes, but certain people have measured increase of startup times, for example, for 29 seconds to 22 seconds, etc. (of course, there are a couple who have measured a decrease in boot speed) | 01:56 |
| ganymede | and by increase of startup times, i mean increase of startup speed | 01:56 |
| cwillu_ | ganymede, 29->22 means there's a bug in the scripts somewhere, which should be fixed | 01:56 |
| rraj-be | could any one help me <i want to help ubuntu by reporting bugs in ubuntu 8.10. . . . Where can i get ubuntu 8.10 for this> | 01:57 |
| cwillu_ | !patience rraj-be, | 01:57 |
| ubottu | cwillu_: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 01:57 |
| cwillu_ | silly ubottu | 01:58 |
| rraj-be | :) | 01:58 |
| mluser-work | Anyone having problems with the vpn functionality of networkmanager after the last upgrade? | 01:58 |
| cwillu_ | the only way the overhead of interpretation could cause a 7 second slowdown is if the bootup process was doing some hard computation for >10 seconds | 01:58 |
| rraj-be | cwillu Sorry , . . .. i am getting late to my college. . .thats y i asked 2 times | 01:58 |
| cwillu_ | rraj-be, might I suggest googling "ubuntu intrepid" :p | 01:59 |
| rraj-be | :) | 01:59 |
| rraj-be | k | 01:59 |
| ganymede | cwillu_: so ubuntu's RC scripts remain in bash? | 01:59 |
| cwillu_ | but failing that, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/ will get you to the same place :p | 01:59 |
| cwillu_ | ganymede, unless somebody can provide a good reason for them not to be | 01:59 |
| cwillu_ | measurable increases are good, but the measurements need to be repeated, and it needs to be shown that they're due to interpretation overhead rather than poor/bugged design | 02:00 |
| ganymede | cwillu_: certain system calls need to be accessed during boot and this required C-based callouts to be added. these callouts were each statically linked, causing the rc system to bloat over time. | 02:01 |
| cwillu_ | ganymede, eh? | 02:01 |
| cwillu_ | 'open' is a system call | 02:01 |
| ganymede | cwillu_: oh, and then there's also the embedded systems problem... | 02:01 |
| cwillu_ | ganymede, interpreted systems tend to have lower memory requirements than a statically built system | 02:02 |
| cwillu_ | and if you're dealing with _really_ small systems, you're not using rc style bootup anyway | 02:02 |
| cwillu_ | anyways, ubuntu isn't an embedded system (even ubuntu mobile isn't 'embedded' in the sense that it's usually meant) | 02:03 |
| cwillu_ | (very stringent cpu and memory requirements) | 02:03 |
| cwillu_ | ((remembering that (for example) an n800 has more cpu and memory than the average desktop in 2000 did) | 02:03 |
| cwillu_ | re: system calls, gotta be more specific as to which calls you're referring to | 02:04 |
| ganymede | so in conclusion, there is no significant benefit in moving system scripts to C, and leaving them in an interpretted form is far more convenient? | 02:04 |
| cwillu_ | open and reading files is what every program does, and it's very very very effecient | 02:04 |
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| cwillu_ | I'd strengthen it to 'there is no benefit to ubuntu in moving them to c' myself :p | 02:04 |
| cwillu_ | anybody know what the trick is to get ssb to load after ndiswrapper is? | 02:05 |
| cwillu_ | I didn't need it for hardy, but it's required for intrepid it seems on my laptop | 02:05 |
| cwillu_ | ganymede, the boot process is io bound. If it's not in some case, that's a bug. | 02:06 |
| cwillu_ | ganymede, the total interpretation time in that case is likely less than 0.1% | 02:06 |
| cwillu_ | so if your boot takes 27 seconds, that's .027 seconds time spent interpreting | 02:07 |
| cwillu_ | (okay, lets say 1%, so .27 seconds)\ | 02:07 |
| cwillu_ | recoding in c might get you a 90% improvement (charitably) | 02:07 |
| cwillu_ | but you'll also have a code bloat, probably about 10 to 1 | 02:07 |
| cwillu_ | and you'll lose the ability to easily modify the files without recompilation (requiring gcc to be installed standard) | 02:08 |
| cwillu_ | and for all of this work, you'll have a boot time of 26.73 seconds instead of 27 seconds :p | 02:08 |
| ganymede | oh, right, ubuntu doesn't ship gcc by default | 02:08 |
| * ganymede is used to source-based distros. | 02:08 | |
| cwillu_ | if you want gentoo or bsd, you know where to find it :p | 02:08 |
| ganymede | i've been using source based ditsros but am getting sick of it. tried ubuntu once but the boot time was noticably longer, even with fewer items on the startup list, so i was wondering if there was any plan to improve on that | 02:10 |
| spiritssight | I wanted to know what the ibex desktop should be I seem to have the same desk top that 8.04 has | 02:11 |
| spiritssight | I am using gnome as the desktop manger and session | 02:12 |
| cwillu_ | ganymede, yes there is, but the improvements aren't likely to come from gcc | 02:12 |
| cwillu_ | there's a bunch of discussion on the wiki, and probably more on the mailing lists | 02:12 |
| cwillu_ | spiritssight, same desktop? | 02:12 |
| spiritssight | Yes the ligh coloured one | 02:13 |
| cwillu_ | spiritssight, gnome is gnome, intrepid is improved, but it's substatially the same os | 02:13 |
| spiritssight | and same back ground | 02:13 |
| cwillu_ | artwork isn't final | 02:13 |
| ganymede | cwillu_: do ubuntu scripts start up in parallel? | 02:13 |
| cwillu_ | ganymede, less /etc/init.d/rc | 02:14 |
| cwillu_ | I think by default they're not, as it causes (caused?) issues in some situations | 02:14 |
| virtualroadside | hmm.. theres an option though? i need to check into that | 02:15 |
| virtualroadside | my carputer takes far too long to startup | 02:15 |
| ganymede | cwillu_: thanks, i'll see if i can speed things up that way. i'm a person who frequently has to turn on and off the laptop | 02:15 |
| cwillu_ | virtualroadside, CONCURRENCY=none vs shell in /etc/init.d/rc | 02:15 |
| cwillu_ | ganymede, and you don't use suspend? | 02:15 |
| ganymede | cwillu_: it's dual-booted, so i never know what operating system i'll need to come back to | 02:16 |
| ganymede | cwillu_: and of course, some drivers are giving me suspend issues | 02:16 |
| cwillu_ | which? | 02:16 |
| ganymede | cwillu_: we might be getting OT | 02:17 |
| virtualroadside | hibernate broke when i moved from hardy beta to hardy normal.. haven't tried it in intrepid yet | 02:17 |
| mbrigdan | OT doesn't really matter here, as long as theres not much going on | 02:17 |
| ganymede | cwillu_: but thanks for the advice and information | 02:17 |
| cwillu_ | not really, just tweak CONCURRENCY= in /etc/init.d/local :p | 02:17 |
| cwillu_ | trouble shooting suspend in intrepid is ot? | 02:18 |
| virtualroadside | ot? | 02:18 |
| mbrigdan | off topic | 02:18 |
| virtualroadside | ah | 02:18 |
| ganymede | cwillu_: i was using the last one that came out...i don't keep up with their animal names | 02:18 |
| mbrigdan | that would be hardy | 02:19 |
| mbrigdan | heron | 02:19 |
| ganymede | but at any rate, i have spent some time on these suspend issues and it's not going to end anywhere...i won't try anymore because enough of my time has gone into it | 02:20 |
| ganymede | feels like time is better spent speeding up boot, rather than figuring suspend out | 02:20 |
| ganymede | also, i have to go eat dinner. bye | 02:21 |
| virtualroadside | the kernel used to delay my boot time for 5 seconds | 02:21 |
| mbrigdan | yeah, suspend never worked for me either, I have no idea where to start on it | 02:21 |
| virtualroadside | because of my BIOS | 02:21 |
| mbrigdan | I also no that s2both/disk doesn't work either | 02:21 |
| mbrigdan | *nkow | 02:21 |
| mbrigdan | *knoq | 02:21 |
| mbrigdan | *know | 02:21 |
| cwillu__ | which doesn't say much :p | 02:21 |
| virtualroadside | heh | 02:21 |
| cwillu__ | acpi_sleep={s3_bios,s3_mode} can be useful | 02:22 |
| cwillu__ | as can acpi_osi={something bios dependant} | 02:22 |
| cwillu__ | the troubleshooting is different depending on whether it successfully suspends, and fails on resume, or fails to suspend in the first place | 02:22 |
| burner | anyoen know how to get wireless on the eeepc working? | 02:23 |
| * burner assumes network manager will be fixed again soon ;) | 02:23 | |
| RAOF | burner: Now's the time to file bugs; nm 0.7 just got uploaded. | 02:30 |
| burner | RAOF: i saw that... i have no icon anymore on either of my pcs ;) | 02:32 |
| burner | the eeepc issue I'm having is actually a madwifi issue with the atheros driver | 02:32 |
| burner | i found a madwifi snapshot that worked on hardy's kerner, but I can't get it to work in 2.6.26 | 02:33 |
| spiritssight | Hello there, I just did some thing dum, I am needing help fix gnome, I was geting rid of kde and some how I missed it up | 02:39 |
| spiritssight | I am booted into another partation of ubuntu ibex | 02:40 |
| spiritssight | How can I fix gnome with then this partation | 02:40 |
| burner | sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ? | 02:42 |
| * burner is unsure what you did | 02:42 | |
| spiritssight | not sure, I know the command you just gave but I need to get it up and running on a different partation, I don't have network access it appears when at root of the other partation | 02:44 |
| spiritssight | can I do a apt-get Cd I have | 02:45 |
| spiritssight | to install gnome from the cd | 02:45 |
| mbrigdan | anyone know how I can de-away my-self in x-chat, the gui always crashes, but I know there is a command for it | 02:59 |
| RAOF | You use away? :) | 02:59 |
| Ahadiel | mbrigdan, try /back | 02:59 |
| mbrigdan | yay! | 03:00 |
| mbrigdan | works | 03:00 |
| mbrigdan | what do package maintainers do? Don't you have bots and stuff that compile packages for you? Do they just make sure packages aren't broken and stuff? | 03:01 |
| JontheEchidna | They make the packages and update them | 03:03 |
| JontheEchidna | and feed them to the servers to build them | 03:03 |
| JontheEchidna | and fix bugs that may arise in the packaging | 03:03 |
| JontheEchidna | in a nutshell | 03:03 |
| mbrigdan | ah | 03:03 |
| bazhang | couple of ways | 03:04 |
| bazhang | |PiP|, first read the topic here | 03:04 |
| mbrigdan | hmm, the package I made with pbuilder will let me install it, does this mean I setup pbuilder wrong? | 03:04 |
| bazhang | |PiP|, the part about 'total system failure' | 03:04 |
| |PiP| | yep read it | 03:05 |
| bazhang | |PiP|, you know how to upgrade normally via the cli? | 03:05 |
| |PiP| | yep, i just did a 'sudo update-manager -d' | 03:06 |
| bazhang | |PiP|, this is not released yet; have you backed everything up? things WILL break. | 03:07 |
| Hobbsee | that's known to break, at times. | 03:07 |
| Hobbsee | bazhang: hmm. i should do a backup. *touch wood* | 03:08 |
| bazhang | Hobbsee, haha | 03:08 |
| |PiP| | bazhang: yep i have | 03:08 |
| |PiP| | all my projects are on svn :D | 03:08 |
| bazhang | |PiP|, seriously, reconsider. unless you want to hunt bugs and recover from 'total system failure' that is. :) | 03:09 |
| aga | hai...all | 03:11 |
| Hobbsee | bazhang: this whole "lack of keyboard by default' at the moment is a bit annoying, too | 03:16 |
| mbrigdan | woot, I made an intrepid package | 03:17 |
| bazhang | Hobbsee, wow | 03:17 |
| RAOF | Awww, yeah. #nouveau's currently working out how to make my laptop resume from suspend. :) | 03:17 |
| Hobbsee | i finally upgraded - and found it *wasn't* fixed. | 03:18 |
| RAOF | I don't think the fixed xorg has built yet. | 03:18 |
| RAOF | Alternatively, it might still be FTBFSing :) | 03:18 |
| mbrigdan | FTBFSing? | 03:18 |
| RAOF | Failing To Build From Source | 03:19 |
| mbrigdan | ah | 03:19 |
| scyrma | anyone using kdm & kde4? when I logout, all I get is a blank screen. Wonder if it's a known bug, or a misconfiguration on my side | 03:19 |
| scyrma | ..a blank screen that never comes back to light, and that blocks (ctrl-alt-f1) access to console :( | 03:19 |
| * Hobbsee eyes launchpad | 03:22 | |
| Hobbsee | wtf is it on? | 03:22 |
| mluser-work | Anyone having problems with the 'VPNC' vpn functionality of networkmanager after the last upgrade? | 03:29 |
| RAOF | mluser-work: I think the answer will be 'everyone who uses vpnc'; I don't think that's currently supported by nm 0.7. I could be wrong. | 03:35 |
| mluser-work | RAOF: thanks | 03:35 |
| IdleOne | can someone refreesh my memory on the upgrade command running alpha2 in VM | 03:38 |
| IdleOne | is it not possible to upgrade to alpha3 via update-manager -d? | 03:45 |
| IdleOne | Hobbsee, you around? | 03:47 |
| Hobbsee | IdleOne: yes | 03:47 |
| IdleOne | I am trying to upgrade-manager -d from alpha2 to alpha3 in VM but tells me I am up to date | 03:47 |
| Hobbsee | do a normal dist-upgrade? | 03:48 |
| IdleOne | yeah says up to date | 03:48 |
| Hobbsee | then apparently you're up to date... | 03:49 |
| IdleOne | how can I check if I am at alpha 3? | 03:50 |
| RAOF | IdleOne: upgrade-manager won't take you from alpha2 to alpha3, anyway. | 03:50 |
| RAOF | IdleOne: You can't, and you aren't. | 03:50 |
| Hobbsee | IdleOne: do you do your normal updates? | 03:50 |
| IdleOne | RAOF, why not? | 03:50 |
| RAOF | Because alpha3 doesn't exist in a technical sense; neither does alpha2 | 03:51 |
| IdleOne | I haven't run the vm in a couple weeks or so | 03:51 |
| IdleOne | and did not get any updates tonight when I started up | 03:51 |
| IdleOne | I find it very strange that I am not getting any updates | 03:54 |
| RAOF | sudo aptitude update; do you have network? :) | 03:54 |
| IdleOne | yes of course | 03:55 |
| IdleOne | yup still nothing | 03:55 |
| IdleOne | :/ | 03:55 |
| Hobbsee | is your mirror out of date? | 03:55 |
| IdleOne | imbrandon is what I am using | 03:56 |
| IdleOne | but maybe yeah | 03:56 |
| mbrigdan | anyone have a package that I attempt to build for Intrepid? So far i've followed the tutorial and make a hello package, but I want to see if a real package is different. | 03:56 |
| mbrigdan | *could attempt to build | 03:56 |
| IdleOne | I am getting failures from the Translation_en_US | 04:00 |
| IdleOne | oh oh | 04:00 |
| IdleOne | 336 updates | 04:00 |
| IdleOne | guess it was the server | 04:00 |
| mbrigdan | where does hardy store the actual screensaver programs? | 04:14 |
| scyrma | /usr/lib/xscreensaver ? | 04:17 |
| marco | hey | 04:18 |
| marco | is it a known issue for drives to be listed twice | 04:19 |
| marco | when their mounted from the Places menu | 04:19 |
| marco | *they're | 04:19 |
| burner | marco: i think it was fixed with a recent nautilus update a day or two ago | 04:24 |
| marco | burner, oh, ok | 04:27 |
| marco | I guess it'll be fixed when I restart gnome then | 04:27 |
| === HardyOne is now known as IdleOne | ||
| * burner prefers to just do alt+f2 and "killall nautilus" but to each their own | 04:34 | |
| === marco is now known as Marco | ||
| cypherdelic | Hello, compiz packages need to be updated to the Version of ppa.launchpad.net intrepid main universe for 64bit. That packages have git version with this date: 20080807, the ubuntu packages ones have 20080630. | 05:51 |
| cypherdelic | compiz doesnt work with mix of this versions | 05:53 |
| RAOF | cypherdelic: All ppa's are unsupported; if you've broken your compiz by installing from a ppa, you need to complain to the PPA's maintainer. | 05:55 |
| cypherdelic | right i dod that, but they told my some of my packages are left ubuntu and they are to old ;) | 05:56 |
| cypherdelic | i used ppa mix with ubuntu for no problems the last weegs | 05:57 |
| RAOF | cypherdelic: There's nothing we can do. It's the PPA maintainer's problem. | 05:57 |
| RAOF | What ppa is this, anyway? | 05:58 |
| emet | !info moonlight | 06:17 |
| ubottu | Package moonlight does not exist in intrepid | 06:17 |
| emet | anyone know why? | 06:19 |
| RAOF | emet: Because noone's packaged it yet? | 06:21 |
| emet | alright | 06:21 |
| emet | silverlight is actually being used now for something important | 06:22 |
| emet | Olympic games | 06:22 |
| emet | :\ | 06:22 |
| RAOF | You can install the plugin in firefox. | 06:22 |
| emet | the official plugin doesn't do video | 06:25 |
| emet | to add video requires and excessively complex build process | 06:25 |
| RAOF | Really? I thought the official plugin allowed you to download microsoft's binary fun? | 06:26 |
| emet | whatever, I don't really care for the Olympics, but I'm sure someone using Ubuntu probably will | 06:26 |
| emet | RAOF, not yet I guess | 06:26 |
| === choudeshell_ is now known as choudesh | ||
| === Serega__ is now known as Serega | ||
| Marco | Hey, would anyone happen to know what canonical's stance is on using "buntu" without your distro name | 07:56 |
| Marco | if it's not an official derivative? | 07:57 |
| === Serega__ is now known as Serega | ||
| jpds | Marco: Ask in #ubuntu-derivative. | 08:23 |
| pwnguin | did nm-0.7 hit? | 09:36 |
| pwnguin | with universal network prefs? | 09:37 |
| RAOF | Ya. | 09:39 |
| RAOF | And semi-universal crazy breakage :) | 09:39 |
| pwnguin | doh | 09:50 |
| === stefanlsdx is now known as stefanlsd | ||
| Gian1 | Hello, can anyone help me in nvidia driver installing? | 13:52 |
| Gian1 | It doesn't work.... | 13:53 |
| porncake | hey guys im trying to make a .sh script to do this : ./script.sh $answer1 $answer2 $answer3, so i need to know how to echo 3 questions and use the answers in my script | 14:19 |
| === tweeK is now known as KRF | ||
| Pici | porncake: This is the channel for Intrepid Ibex support, try #bash instead. | 14:20 |
| porncake | thank you | 14:25 |
| === TheImp_ is now known as TheInfinity | ||
| === |W8TAH| is now known as w8tah | ||
| Marco | Was the theme changed in a recent update? | 17:42 |
| Marco | back to a light theme? | 17:42 |
| coz_ | hey guys..any news on wacom tablet autodetec in ibex? | 18:01 |
| coz_ | autodetect | 18:01 |
| === macd_ is now known as macd | ||
| pwnguin | coz_: yea | 18:20 |
| pwnguin | input hotplug hit recently | 18:20 |
| pwnguin | i havent tried it yet but it sounds like its getting close | 18:21 |
| pwnguin | fun. cant hit up wireless in intrepid | 18:30 |
| coz_ | pwnguin, very cool thnks | 18:49 |
| coz_ | thanks | 18:49 |
| mbrigdan | where are the configuration files for the screen savers kept? | 19:28 |
| cycom | My bluetooth mighty mouse's horizontal scroll works, but backwards. Is there a way to make sure that horizontal scrolling left goes to button6 and horizontal scrolling right goes to button 7? I don't want to use xmodmap because that'll make my touchpad backwards. | 20:07 |
| phaverkamp | I just upgraded Virtualbox to 1.6.4 and Alpha 3 still kernel panics | 20:24 |
| tanath | hm, window manager no longer works with firefox | 20:48 |
| tanath | firefox maximizes to cover the screen, and has no borders & titlebar | 20:48 |
| nemo | yay | 20:50 |
| nemo | http://www.geocities.com/stssppnn/pcsp.html | 20:50 |
| nemo | is in 2.6.26 | 20:50 |
| nemo | man that's a reason to upgrade. I can satisfy my retro urges by playing 8bit music again :) | 20:50 |
| nemo | tanath: and you didn't accidentally hit F11? :) | 20:51 |
| nemo | or screw with userChrome.css ? | 20:51 |
| tanath | nemo: nope. it's not that kind of maximized | 20:51 |
| tanath | not full-screened | 20:51 |
| tanath | just happens to insist on being 'maximized' and taking up the whole screen | 20:51 |
| tanath | i can still full-screen it with f11 | 20:52 |
| tanath | i can't alt+click to drag, or anything either, which leads me to believe it has no controlling WM | 20:53 |
| tanath | nemo: and no, it happened after a recent update and/or reboot | 20:54 |
| tanath | ah! wtf... | 20:58 |
| tanath | i hit alt+tab, then while still holding alt, pressed shift+tab to go back, and the screen started flashing like crazy | 20:58 |
| tanath | happens half the time i hit alt+tab now... :-/ | 21:02 |
| tanath | may be part of that flickery key issue | 21:03 |
| tanath | ah, no... it's whenever alt tab would bring up firefox | 21:03 |
| tanath | ok, my firefox hasn't changed recently, so it's something else | 21:04 |
| tanath | it makes everything except the desktop bg flash in and out. even the gnome panel flickers | 21:06 |
| nemo | tanath: you are, presumably, using compiz | 21:10 |
| tanath | yes | 21:10 |
| nemo | does it continue with compiz disabled? | 21:10 |
| nemo | KDE or Gnome? | 21:11 |
| tanath | gnome | 21:11 |
| tanath | still does with metacity | 21:11 |
| tanath | flickering stops though, because it doesn't do the window preview in alt+tab | 21:11 |
| tanath | weird, after switching to metacity & back, now i can't negativize it with the negative plugin. it only switches to negative when i bring up a menu | 21:13 |
| tanath | well, i just got updates to gnome-panel & stuff, so logging out | 21:14 |
| isakey | zomg new design rules! but dark gray is not best color really... | 21:21 |
| isakey | whity pink and whity blue... ohh.. also ponies and dolphins everythere... :P | 21:23 |
| isakey | it will be really cool | 21:23 |
| isakey | like this http://imagechan.com/img/5884/Manly%20Tattoo/ | 21:26 |
| isakey | kthx | 21:27 |
| alex-weej_ | http://alex-weej.blogspot.com/2008/08/sucata-run-2008.html | 21:30 |
| alex-weej_ | http://alex-weej.blogspot.com/2008/08/sucata-run-2008.html | 21:31 |
| alex-weej_ | before anyone else grills me for spam, sorry. "/amsg" works for all networks at once in X-Chat, CAUTION! | 21:40 |
| === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG | ||
| DanaG | Aah, now I do see how broadcom cards suck: at school, it repeatedly deauthenticates and reauthenticates from/to the AP. | 22:11 |
| DanaG | oh wait... it's just the access point sucking. | 22:15 |
| DanaG | dmesg | grep "[assoc,auth]" | wc -l | 22:17 |
| DanaG | 2053 | 22:17 |
| DanaG | yay. | 22:17 |
| DanaG | Most of those are from the Broadcom card. | 22:18 |
| === TheImp is now known as TheInfinity | ||
| tuedel | hi! every time i log into gnome, i get that "your last session lasted less than 10 seconds" message, and as soon as i click ok, my xserver crashes (along with some display errors). i can't find anything helpful in all those logfiles... here is my ~/.xsession-errors, if it makes sense to anyone: http://pastebin.ca/1096181 . i've already disabled compiz. | 22:53 |
| tuedel | the failsafe session doesn't work either | 22:55 |
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