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kirklandcjwatson: I have a followup grub patch, in a bzr branch linked to from my last comment in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/3364900:39
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superm1well CIA should have reporteed my last two commits but ran into ProtocolErorrs w/ 500 return codes on the webserver, so I just committed a merge with the mythbuntu-recipe branch15:28
cjwatsonit usually catches up with those some time later, IME15:39
cjwatsondespite the 500s15:39
superm1cjwatson, while i've got you here momentarily, could you comment on the question i asked last night about that issue?  It's holding us back at work from any intrepid testing out of factory images at this point15:42
superm1evan was trying to come up with a solution prior to vacation and wanted to talk to you first i believe15:42
cjwatsonI still don't understand why it suddenly bites intrepid and not hardy15:42
cjwatsonremind me of the bug number?15:42
superm1mtab is different than /proc/mounts on hardy15:43
superm1it ends up not containing the partition with the /cdrom mount for some reason or another15:43
superm1looking for a bug number15:43
superm1https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/25266715:44
superm1evan has more heuristic data on the system that I gave him when he was over here15:44
cjwatsonso, I still strongly feel that the installer's behaviour here is in general correct, but maybe we can provide some kind of a hack to avoid the problem for you15:45
superm1yeah that would be sane15:46
superm1avoiding a (growing) early command would be good15:46
kirklandcjwatson: I'm curious if the second grub patch helps allay your concerns raised in your first commit message?15:52
cjwatsonkirkland: sorry, today has been frantic and I haven't had time to look yet; I will try to look later today though15:53
kirklandcjwatson: thanks, no worries, and i don't mean to lay another one on you ;-)15:55
superm1cjwatson, i think a clone of yourself would be useful :)15:56
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cjwatsonsuperm1|away: fixed in bzr15:58
cjwatson(modulo CIA hating the world)15:59
cjwatsonsuperm1|away: you'll need to preseed 'd-i ubiquity/partman-skip-unmount boolean true'15:59
cjwatsonsuperm1|away: I still don't understand how it manages to *work* with a partition mounted on that partition table15:59
CIA-2ubiquity: superm1 * r2761 ubiquity/ (8 files in 2 dirs): merge with mythbuntu recipe branch16:00
CIA-2ubiquity: cjwatson * r2762 ubiquity/ (3 files in 2 dirs):16:00
CIA-2ubiquity: Allow skipping the unmounting of busy partitions by preseeding16:00
CIA-2ubiquity: ubiquity/partman-skip-unmount to true (LP: #252667).16:00
cjwatsonthere, told you :)16:01
CIA-2ubiquity: cjwatson * r2763 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):16:06
CIA-2ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: debian-installer-utils16:06
CIA-2ubiquity: 1.59ubuntu2, grub-installer 1.32ubuntu2, partman-target 55ubuntu2.16:06
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superm1cjwatson, okay great thanks.  i'll add that to our preseed right now16:11
CIA-2ubiquity: cjwatson * r2764 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.9.816:29
hyeHi,18:41
hyeWe have our own build and don't want to some packages to go into our ISO.18:42
hyefor example, we don't want abiword so that we removed the abiword package from all local seeds.18:42
hyeThe abiword package is not shown up in germinated seed (workspace/cdimage/scratch/xubuntu/daily/germinate/hardy/i386).18:42
hyeHOWEVER, it is shown up in tasks (workspace/cdimage/debian-cd/tasks/auto/daily/xubuntu/hardy).... :(18:42
hyewhen I run 'find . | xargs grep abiword', it shows me like this..18:43
hye./desktop:abiword18:43
hye./desktop:abiword-common18:43
hye./desktop:abiword-plugins18:43
hye./override.i386:abiword  Task  xubuntu-desktop18:43
hye./override.i386:abiword-common  Task  xubuntu-desktop18:43
hye./override.i386:abiword-plugins  Task  xubuntu-desktop18:43
hye./tasks.i386:abiword xubuntu-desktop18:43
hye./tasks.i386:abiword-common xubuntu-desktop18:43
hye./tasks.i386:abiword-plugins xubuntu-desktop18:43
hyeIs it because "Task-Key: xubuntu-desktop" in desktop local seed or because of override files?18:44
cjwatsonI think you must be mistaken somehow about it not showing up in germinate output, as the tasks files are generated directly from that18:44
cjwatsonin any case, the problem is likely twofold:18:45
cjwatson... actually, no, onefold :-)18:45
hye:O18:45
cjwatsonyou'll need a local version of the xubuntu-desktop package that's updated to remove the Recommends: of abiword18:45
hyedo you mean customized-desktop package?18:46
cjwatsonand you'll need to arrange to point germinate at that as well as at the master archive18:46
cjwatsonyes18:46
hyewe have customized-desktop package, and it doesn't have abiword in desktop-i386, and desktop-recommends-i38618:46
cjwatsongerminate will be pulling in abiword regardless of your seeds, because it's been told to use xubuntu-desktop and is following the Recommends18:46
cjwatsonoh, well in that case you're not properly pointing at it, I guess18:46
cjwatsonare you running with 'for-project xubuntu' or similar?18:47
hyeoh I see, so in desktop local seed, i should say Task-Key: customized-desktop?18:47
cjwatsonTask-Key doesn't matter at this stage, although it will matter later18:47
cjwatsonbut you should definitely remove all references to xubuntu-desktop if you aren't going to use it18:47
cjwatsonthe ' * xubuntu-desktop' line will be the one that matters18:47
hyei see.. I should try to change it.. and I guess I was pointing our local mirror.. have to point master mirror too18:48
hyethanks, I'll try :D18:49
hyeby the way, what is Task-Key for? My understanding is the line which is not started with * is ignored by germinate. is it right?18:51
hyeIs it just for information? or is it used by germinate somehow?18:51
cjwatsonTask-Key is passed on to tasksel18:55
cjwatsonit causes tasksel to skip offering the task unless the listed package is present18:55
cjwatsononly if you also update the tasksel source though ...18:55
cjwatson(there's a script to do it, or you could just skip that and hand-hack files in ubuntu-tasks/)18:56
hyein our case, we don't want tasksel package either ;; :)19:02
hyeno abiword, no tasksel ;)19:02
cjwatsonwell, that works too19:02
hyehmm... I have another stupid question.. (sorry I'm new, so it might be really stupid.. )19:05
hyefor override files.. in local-mirror/ubuntu/indices19:05
hyeoverride.dist.component has only package name, priority, and section.... and override.dist.extra.component has Origin and bugs mailto19:06
hyecan I define other things in override files, too?19:06
hyelike dependencies.... or something like that19:06
cjwatsonyou can't set package relationships in the override file, no19:16
cjwatsonyou need to actually change the packages for that19:16
davmor2cjwatson: Did you say you and evan are off next week?19:17
cjwatsonyeah19:22
davmor2okay I'll save up the installer bugs for when you get back then dude :)19:27
davmor2Hopefully now the rough edges are knocked off I'm hoping there won't be any (crosses fingures)19:34
davmor2fingers even19:34
hyecjwatson: after I pointed to master mirror, it worked :-) thanks21:48
cjwatsongreat21:51
hyecjwatson: hmmm......... when I point back to our local mirror, it doesn't work again.23:07
hye....As you said before ("you should definitely remove all references to xubuntu-desktop if you aren't going to use it"),..... should I remove all the references from override file?23:09
cjwatsondon't edit the override file by hand23:11
cjwatsonsorry, I'm not going to be able to help here though, I have several things left to do before going off on holiday tomorrow and it's after 11pm here23:12
hyeohhh23:12
hyesorry23:12
hye:)23:12

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