[00:39] <kirkland> cjwatson: I have a followup grub patch, in a bzr branch linked to from my last comment in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/33649
[15:28] <superm1> well CIA should have reporteed my last two commits but ran into ProtocolErorrs w/ 500 return codes on the webserver, so I just committed a merge with the mythbuntu-recipe branch
[15:39] <cjwatson> it usually catches up with those some time later, IME
[15:39] <cjwatson> despite the 500s
[15:42] <superm1> cjwatson, while i've got you here momentarily, could you comment on the question i asked last night about that issue?  It's holding us back at work from any intrepid testing out of factory images at this point
[15:42] <superm1> evan was trying to come up with a solution prior to vacation and wanted to talk to you first i believe
[15:42] <cjwatson> I still don't understand why it suddenly bites intrepid and not hardy
[15:42] <cjwatson> remind me of the bug number?
[15:43] <superm1> mtab is different than /proc/mounts on hardy
[15:43] <superm1> it ends up not containing the partition with the /cdrom mount for some reason or another
[15:43] <superm1> looking for a bug number
[15:44] <superm1> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/252667
[15:44] <superm1> evan has more heuristic data on the system that I gave him when he was over here
[15:45] <cjwatson> so, I still strongly feel that the installer's behaviour here is in general correct, but maybe we can provide some kind of a hack to avoid the problem for you
[15:46] <superm1> yeah that would be sane
[15:46] <superm1> avoiding a (growing) early command would be good
[15:52] <kirkland> cjwatson: I'm curious if the second grub patch helps allay your concerns raised in your first commit message?
[15:53] <cjwatson> kirkland: sorry, today has been frantic and I haven't had time to look yet; I will try to look later today though
[15:55] <kirkland> cjwatson: thanks, no worries, and i don't mean to lay another one on you ;-)
[15:56] <superm1> cjwatson, i think a clone of yourself would be useful :)
[15:58] <cjwatson> superm1|away: fixed in bzr
[15:59] <cjwatson> (modulo CIA hating the world)
[15:59] <cjwatson> superm1|away: you'll need to preseed 'd-i ubiquity/partman-skip-unmount boolean true'
[15:59] <cjwatson> superm1|away: I still don't understand how it manages to *work* with a partition mounted on that partition table
[16:00] <CIA-2> ubiquity: superm1 * r2761 ubiquity/ (8 files in 2 dirs): merge with mythbuntu recipe branch
[16:00] <CIA-2> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2762 ubiquity/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
[16:00] <CIA-2> ubiquity: Allow skipping the unmounting of busy partitions by preseeding
[16:00] <CIA-2> ubiquity: ubiquity/partman-skip-unmount to true (LP: #252667).
[16:01] <cjwatson> there, told you :)
[16:06] <CIA-2> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2763 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[16:06] <CIA-2> ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: debian-installer-utils
[16:06] <CIA-2> ubiquity: 1.59ubuntu2, grub-installer 1.32ubuntu2, partman-target 55ubuntu2.
[16:11] <superm1> cjwatson, okay great thanks.  i'll add that to our preseed right now
[16:29] <CIA-2> ubiquity: cjwatson * r2764 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.9.8
[18:41] <hye> Hi,
[18:42] <hye> We have our own build and don't want to some packages to go into our ISO.
[18:42] <hye> for example, we don't want abiword so that we removed the abiword package from all local seeds.
[18:42] <hye> The abiword package is not shown up in germinated seed (workspace/cdimage/scratch/xubuntu/daily/germinate/hardy/i386).
[18:42] <hye> HOWEVER, it is shown up in tasks (workspace/cdimage/debian-cd/tasks/auto/daily/xubuntu/hardy).... :(
[18:43] <hye> when I run 'find . | xargs grep abiword', it shows me like this..
[18:43] <hye> ./desktop:abiword
[18:43] <hye> ./desktop:abiword-common
[18:43] <hye> ./desktop:abiword-plugins
[18:43] <hye> ./override.i386:abiword  Task  xubuntu-desktop
[18:43] <hye> ./override.i386:abiword-common  Task  xubuntu-desktop
[18:43] <hye> ./override.i386:abiword-plugins  Task  xubuntu-desktop
[18:43] <hye> ./tasks.i386:abiword xubuntu-desktop
[18:43] <hye> ./tasks.i386:abiword-common xubuntu-desktop
[18:43] <hye> ./tasks.i386:abiword-plugins xubuntu-desktop
[18:44] <hye> Is it because "Task-Key: xubuntu-desktop" in desktop local seed or because of override files?
[18:44] <cjwatson> I think you must be mistaken somehow about it not showing up in germinate output, as the tasks files are generated directly from that
[18:45] <cjwatson> in any case, the problem is likely twofold:
[18:45] <cjwatson> ... actually, no, onefold :-)
[18:45] <hye> :O
[18:45] <cjwatson> you'll need a local version of the xubuntu-desktop package that's updated to remove the Recommends: of abiword
[18:46] <hye> do you mean customized-desktop package?
[18:46] <cjwatson> and you'll need to arrange to point germinate at that as well as at the master archive
[18:46] <cjwatson> yes
[18:46] <hye> we have customized-desktop package, and it doesn't have abiword in desktop-i386, and desktop-recommends-i386
[18:46] <cjwatson> germinate will be pulling in abiword regardless of your seeds, because it's been told to use xubuntu-desktop and is following the Recommends
[18:46] <cjwatson> oh, well in that case you're not properly pointing at it, I guess
[18:47] <cjwatson> are you running with 'for-project xubuntu' or similar?
[18:47] <hye> oh I see, so in desktop local seed, i should say Task-Key: customized-desktop?
[18:47] <cjwatson> Task-Key doesn't matter at this stage, although it will matter later
[18:47] <cjwatson> but you should definitely remove all references to xubuntu-desktop if you aren't going to use it
[18:47] <cjwatson> the ' * xubuntu-desktop' line will be the one that matters
[18:48] <hye> i see.. I should try to change it.. and I guess I was pointing our local mirror.. have to point master mirror too
[18:49] <hye> thanks, I'll try :D
[18:51] <hye> by the way, what is Task-Key for? My understanding is the line which is not started with * is ignored by germinate. is it right?
[18:51] <hye> Is it just for information? or is it used by germinate somehow?
[18:55] <cjwatson> Task-Key is passed on to tasksel
[18:55] <cjwatson> it causes tasksel to skip offering the task unless the listed package is present
[18:55] <cjwatson> only if you also update the tasksel source though ...
[18:56] <cjwatson> (there's a script to do it, or you could just skip that and hand-hack files in ubuntu-tasks/)
[19:02] <hye> in our case, we don't want tasksel package either ;; :)
[19:02] <hye> no abiword, no tasksel ;)
[19:02] <cjwatson> well, that works too
[19:05] <hye> hmm... I have another stupid question.. (sorry I'm new, so it might be really stupid.. )
[19:05] <hye> for override files.. in local-mirror/ubuntu/indices
[19:06] <hye> override.dist.component has only package name, priority, and section.... and override.dist.extra.component has Origin and bugs mailto
[19:06] <hye> can I define other things in override files, too?
[19:06] <hye> like dependencies.... or something like that
[19:16] <cjwatson> you can't set package relationships in the override file, no
[19:16] <cjwatson> you need to actually change the packages for that
[19:17] <davmor2> cjwatson: Did you say you and evan are off next week?
[19:22] <cjwatson> yeah
[19:27] <davmor2> okay I'll save up the installer bugs for when you get back then dude :)
[19:34] <davmor2> Hopefully now the rough edges are knocked off I'm hoping there won't be any (crosses fingures)
[19:34] <davmor2> fingers even
[21:48] <hye> cjwatson: after I pointed to master mirror, it worked :-) thanks
[21:51] <cjwatson> great
[23:07] <hye> cjwatson: hmmm......... when I point back to our local mirror, it doesn't work again.
[23:09] <hye> ....As you said before ("you should definitely remove all references to xubuntu-desktop if you aren't going to use it"),..... should I remove all the references from override file?
[23:11] <cjwatson> don't edit the override file by hand
[23:12] <cjwatson> sorry, I'm not going to be able to help here though, I have several things left to do before going off on holiday tomorrow and it's after 11pm here
[23:12] <hye> ohhh
[23:12] <hye> sorry
[23:12] <hye> :)