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| samkorn | Can ubuntu mobile be embedded on the nintendo ds | 03:28 |
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| BenLauDC | no | 03:48 |
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| Moo-- | Is it possible to run MID on OpenMoko? | 09:56 |
| persia | Moo: I'm not sure I understand your question. Do you mean the Ubuntu MID images on the OpenMoko hardware? | 10:01 |
| persia | In that case, no: the OpenMoko hardware is ARM, and the Ubuntu MID images are for lpia. | 10:01 |
| Moo-- | persia: ah, that was what I was looking for, thx | 10:05 |
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| sn9 | how much ram is needed for UME? can it run well in 128M? 64M? 32? | 18:46 |
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| persia | sn9: Works best at 512, can do at 384, and might work at 256, but in a degraded fashion. | 18:53 |
| persia | Most testing was with 512 or 1G | 18:53 |
| sn9 | yeesh, what a hog | 18:53 |
| persia | The focus has more been about experience than making it work on small hardware. | 18:54 |
| persia | This is perhaps nice because some bits look nice. | 18:54 |
| sn9 | most MIDs are small | 18:54 |
| persia | Unfortunately it means that almost nobody has the right target hardware. | 18:54 |
| sn9 | yep | 18:54 |
| persia | True, but most MIDs are ARM as well, and Ubuntu MID doesn't work on ARM: it's lpia only. | 18:55 |
| sn9 | is it still lighter than netbook-remix? | 18:55 |
| persia | No idea: I've not tried netbook-remix. That said, I suspect it's smaller, just because I've heard that netbook remix uses most of the standard desktop apps. | 18:55 |
| sn9 | so, regular ubuntu and xubuntu are actually the lightest flavors? | 18:57 |
| persia | No. I think Ubuntu MID is slightly lighter than Ubuntu Desktop (which I'd not want to run with <1G). | 18:59 |
| persia | I've not compared with Xubuntu. | 18:59 |
| sn9 | i am running Ubuntu Desktop on this laptop with 256, and it's also running kqemu in the background with 128 set aside for the UME kvm image | 19:00 |
| persia | sn9: And does that work? | 19:00 |
| sn9 | yep | 19:00 |
| persia | Nifty. | 19:00 |
| sn9 | the UME is slow, though | 19:00 |
| persia | Lots of swapping? | 19:00 |
| sn9 | only if i open too many things at once | 19:01 |
| sn9 | like OOo | 19:01 |
| persia | Maybe that's why I think everything has high RAM requirements :) | 19:01 |
| sn9 | the UME kvm image has a bad menu.lst file, btw | 19:02 |
| sn9 | it's valid, but incorrect | 19:02 |
| persia | Incorrect? Which image did you install? | 19:03 |
| sn9 | the kvm one | 19:03 |
| persia | Oh. Quite possibly. | 19:03 |
| sn9 | easy to fix, though | 19:04 |
| persia | With ubuntu-mobile-builder, or by hand? | 19:04 |
| sn9 | fixing the file? easy by hand | 19:04 |
| persia | Yeah :) | 19:04 |
| persia | It's getting the code that generates the code that generates the file to do it right that's tricky. | 19:05 |
| sn9 | here are the things wrong with the file: | 19:05 |
| sn9 | 1) splashimage= line missing | 19:06 |
| sn9 | 2) hiddenmenu uncommented, hiding the splash | 19:06 |
| sn9 | 3) kopt line missing options "acpi=force snd.cards_limit=0" | 19:07 |
| sn9 | those options are needed for the lpia kernel to work right in kvm/qemu | 19:07 |
| persia | Hmm. Worked for me in kvm without any changes. Are you using the 8.04.1 image? | 19:09 |
| sn9 | yep | 19:09 |
| sn9 | come to think of it, those options best always be used for the lpia kernel anywhere | 19:14 |
| shane_ | Hello, does a Dell Axim X5 32mb support Ubuntu MID? | 23:06 |
| shane_ | Would anyone like to take a guess | 23:09 |
| sn9 | i would guess no | 23:15 |
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