[16:10] hi newz2000 [16:10] howdy emunkki [16:11] i'm trying to get my vmware-mulated windows to shut down >__< [16:11] it's SO unresponsive [16:12] might be because of vmware as well, but still i think it's windows which causes the most of the problem [16:12] have you tried virtualbox? [16:12] hmm [16:12] nope [16:12] it's got this slick "seemless" mode and folder sharing [16:12] so that folders in your home directory show as network drives [16:13] for me with xp its very responsive [16:13] but it's not for 64? [16:13] oh, don't know actually [16:13] and does it use the devices natively on windows or through linux? [16:13] I think you can choose... [16:13] ok [16:14] because the reason why i need vmware is photoshop working effectively with a wacom tablet [16:14] the only problem where I like vmware better is if you're using wifi then you have to use the NAT networking which means you can't run a server [16:14] linux can't handle them as good as windows, yet [16:14] ah, haven't tried that [16:14] photoshop cs2 would run on wine, though :P [16:14] just waiting for the better wacom support [16:15] anyway, will boot now to get responsive vmware-windows back -> [17:02] emunkki: would you be OK with me using your kubuntu start page mockup as part of an email newsletter template for ubuntu/canonical newsletters? [17:06] newz2000, sure [17:06] cool [17:06] newz2000, if you want, you can put my name there [17:07] newz2000, Pasi Lallinaho // emunkki [17:08] would you be ok if I just gave you credit for the idea when communicating with people about the mockup? I'm not sure its appropriate (or desirable for you) to have your name in the emails [17:08] yeah that's ok as well [17:08] ok, I'll make sure to praise your name when I show it off [17:08] :-) [17:09] hehe ok ;) [17:09] i already got two new commercial projects today :o [17:09] is this what you do for a living? [17:09] a few people has ASKED my client for my contact information [17:09] yes, definately :) [17:10] where are you located? [17:10] that's why i'm so superior ;)) [17:10] finlanf [17:10] *f=d [17:10] dinland? [17:10] :-) [17:10] lol [17:10] i always get typos when i write "finland" [17:11] if i don't especially try hard to write it correctly [17:11] basically i would be very interested and open for international clients as well... [17:11] i might even be able to live abroad for some time [17:12] ever thought of moving to Des Moines Iowa USA? [17:12] just a bit of an inside joke actually [17:13] lol :D [17:13] nope [17:13] most of the design work I know about is here (in Iowa where I'm at) [17:13] let me specify: i would be able to live abroad @europe for some time ;) [17:14] really, states are too far away from my life [17:14] as is asia [17:14] I know how it is actually [17:14] though it seems that all the indian webdesigners already work @finland :P [17:15] (i see them A LOT when i go to my studies) [17:15] you're a student too? [17:16] they're working nearby a train station which is along my route to studies [17:16] yes [17:16] i'm studying to be a youth leader/social worker [17:16] that's my another passion, but it has had a bit smaller role in my life for some time already [17:17] what does a youth leader in finland do? [17:17] well uhmm... [17:17] can do a lot ;) [17:17] basically just organises happenings [17:18] depends on if he/she is working on community/city or parish [17:18] actually my title would be "bachelor of social services" [17:18] but i'm deepening into young people and that's why i also get the right to work as a youth leader in parishes [17:19] and i'm gonna also get a possibility to work as a missionary secretary or sth :P [17:20] don't really know what that person does, i've only seen one and he walked around the place all day long looking busy [17:20] i never catched him doing anything proper in a year [17:20] I've known people like that too [17:21] but that's what a lot of people think of us graphic designers also : [17:21] :P [17:21] gotta find inspiration [17:21] yeah [17:21] my mother always says that i don't do any proper job [17:21] but still my salary is way higher than her [17:21] ;) [17:22] or earnings to be correct [17:22] because salary <<< earnings [17:22] I've tried to describe my job to my parents too... my mom kind of gets it but my dad is still pretty clueless [17:23] heh [17:23] what do you actually do? [17:23] I'm the Ubuntu.com webmaster [17:23] is your salary a secret? [17:23] probably best [17:24] :) [17:24] but it may not be relevant across countries any how [17:24] ywah [17:24] w=e [17:24] even here in the US Iowa has a pretty low cost of living [17:24] yeah, well finland is a pretty expensive country [17:24] and euro is a lot stronger than us dollar [17:24] at least atm [17:25] it's so damn cheap to order cds from there :P [17:25] what about shipping? [17:25] well, last time i ordered a cd from an amazon marketplace seller: [17:25] cd: 3,10 - shipping: 4,40 (in euros) [17:26] so that's it's bad side [17:26] though cds cost like 20-25 euros here [17:26] wow [17:26] without shipping, if you order them to your home [17:26] if cds cost that much here p2p would be unstoppable [17:27] (though it probably is anyway) [17:27] well do you think it's stoppable here in finland? ;) [17:27] i think there was a research that 80% of the families in finland download illegal material in finland [17:27] I meant "no one in the US would buy the CDs" [17:27] or was it 60% - but that isn't the actual percent anyway [17:28] and that concerns only families, not individual persons [19:36] newz2000: ping, I'll be back on August 28th, family vacation. I might manage to stop by on IRC once or twice. [19:50] ryanakca: ok, have fun. [19:50] I think I'll be away some of that same time