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engineer/dev/mapper/system-HOME /home reiserfs defaults,noatime 0 200:00
engineerreplace accordingly to your system00:00
morticihmmmmm00:01
morticii have something similar and i can't write to the mount point as a regular user....00:01
arrrghhhso if the nvidia binary breaks X, and the restricted drivers manager breaks X, what do i do?  previously I used the nvidia binary, and it worked like a charm.  i backed up my xorg.conf, and upon reinstating that file X still broke.  I don't get it, this config worked perfectly fine before on the exact same system00:01
arrrghhhmortici, who 'owns' the mount?00:02
arrrghhhls -l00:02
engineeryou gotta allow it00:02
morticidrwxr-xr-x  4 root root   80 2008-08-08 22:42 miscdata00:02
engineerchmod 77700:02
morticiweird my other dir which is mounted as ntfs-3g in fstab automatically is set to allow users to mount it...00:03
morticiwhen i run sudo mount -a it overrides my chmod....00:04
benjaminhow do i change a disks mount point?00:10
Clenfilhi all00:11
Clenfiltem alguma gatinha nesse canal00:11
arrrghhhbenjamin, well you can unmount with "umount" and re-mount with "mount" - or edit fstab to make the change permanent00:11
arrrghhh!es | Clenfil00:11
ubottuClenfil: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.00:11
yao_ziyua1I AM VERY CONCERNED THAT ADEPT_MANAGER DOES NOT WARN ME ABOUT UNSIGNED PACKAGES00:12
arrrghhhyao_ziyua1, ok, can you turn the caps lock off please?00:12
yao_ziyua1ok00:12
arrrghhhthank you.00:12
arrrghhhwhy do you think this is true?00:12
morticihow can i tell the type of FS a /dev/xxx is?00:13
engineerfdisk00:14
geniimortici: sudo fdisk -l     will usually give a clue by the partition type00:14
morticii don't get why my second resierfs partition doesn't mount so other users can browse it00:16
morticionly root can write to it :(00:16
arrrghhhmortici, i asked you to see who "owns" the drive with ls -l00:20
morticibrw-rw---- 1 root disk 254,  2 2008-08-08 22:54 isw_dhaigagjhg_SuperNova200:23
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morticican anyone help me out? I want to mount a secondary ReiserFS partition to i have read write access to it but as of right now its only RO and ROOT only is there away for me to mount it in fstab to be RW00:29
morticihere is the pastebin of my fstab00:29
morticihttp://pastebin.com/m10c6e02a00:29
ubuntuhello00:32
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morticihere is a pastebin with the fstab and after mounting with sudo mount -a00:32
morticihttp://pastebin.com/m38a952db00:32
NutzebahnHello. Has anyone in here ever had problems with KDE 4 logging out right after starting?00:32
morticiand output of ls -al /media00:32
juverciao tutti00:38
erosstrying to play some mp3's from a local fileserver but it says URL is not supported or possible network failure - using amarok.. anyone know why or how to fix it?00:46
Dr_williseross,  i normally just mount remote shares locally - so they appear as a local directory. That seems to solve a lot of issues.00:51
ubuntuCan the /boot partition be shared with another linux system, i.e. sda1 - /boot, sda2 - "/" of kubuntu and sda3 - "/" of ubuntu?00:56
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benjamindoes anyone know of a gui app that will let me reformat a drive as ext3 using either xp or kubuntu?00:57
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Daisuke-Laptopbenjamin: gparted00:59
bomberbe vewy very careful01:00
Daisuke-Laptopmost definitely01:00
benjaminthe drive is empty, i've already pulled everything off of it01:00
benjamini want to completely eliminate partition and replace it with an ext3 one01:01
Daisuke-Laptopyeah, the usual warnings apply, tread carefully, double-check to be sure it's the right drive, but yeah, you should be fine with gparted01:02
bomberreal nice utility... prolly not installed by default01:02
benjaminno, it wasn't01:02
benjaminwait, will it be able to reformat a drive that isn't mounted?01:03
bomberyes indeed01:03
benjamingood01:04
Daisuke-Laptopbenjamin: in fact, it can't format it if it *is* mounted :)01:04
morticiwoot i got virtualbox running :D01:06
yao_ziyua1if i run synaptic without kdesu or gksu, it uses the current kde theme; if with kdesu/gksu, it uses an ugly Motif theme. how do i make it use the kde theme as root?01:12
Daisuke-Laptopdeal with it because it's only used infrequently?01:15
Daisuke-Laptopi'm actually not sure, unless you were to launch system settings with kdesu and change it that way (and i don't even know if that would work) - besides, it's good for there to be a difference, a visual cue that reminds you if an app is running as a superuser can only be a good thing.01:16
yao_ziyua1can anyone tell me where to download ksynaptic?01:18
yao_ziyua1!ksynaptic01:18
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ksynaptic01:18
Pliskinthere is no kynaptic anymore01:28
Pliskinuse adept01:28
NutzebahnHello. Has anyone in here ever had problems with KDE 4 logging out right after starting?02:06
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brmassaguys, i just bought a new MB+SATA2 kit but kubuntu CD is not detecting the new hard drive. only detects the old IDE. what should i do?02:25
Guest22966<---ubuntu noob, woot :)02:25
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ncfi1013_can anybody tell me how to get amarok to recognize my 3rd gen ipod?02:31
ns8#kubuntu-es02:32
ncfi1013_can anybody tell me how to get amarok to recognize my 3rd gen ipod?02:34
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rodolfo#ubuntu-ar02:46
mefisto__I'm wondering if ubuntu linux has better support for AMD or Intel CPUs. Which has better support for virtualization, for example? Will I notice a difference in performance?02:52
arrrghhhso when the hardware drivers manager fails to install the nvidia stuff properly (it breaks X), what do i do?  i've used the binaries from nvidia's website, but the same result02:55
Dragnslcrmefisto__- I doubt you'd notice any performance difference because of Ubuntu02:55
arrrghhhwhat i don't get is my xorg.conf that was working on this exact same setup no longer works.02:55
DragnslcrAs for virtualization, I think current processors from both companies (Athlon X2, Core 2 Duo) support it equally well02:56
mefisto__arrrghhh: when you say "same setup" does that mean same hardware? or your linux install is the same?02:58
arrrghhhmefisto__, same everything.  kubuntu 8.04.1, exact same hardware.02:58
arrrghhhit's the same machine.  i installed intrepid and of course it screwed up a lotta things.  so i reinstalled.02:59
arrrghhhsaved my xorg.conf, and i tried to reinstall the nvidia drivers like i did before but it hasn't worked yet.  X always breaks.02:59
mefisto__arrrghhh: does X give an error message? or just a blank black screen?03:00
arrrghhhmefisto__, it blinks from the console login to a black screen03:00
arrrghhhback and forth, until i just kill it and blast out the xorg.conf file.  i'm assuming the newly created xorg uses vesa.03:01
arrrghhhhello mr willis03:01
Dr_willis_Moo!03:02
Dr_willis_:)03:02
arrrghhhlol03:02
mefisto__arrrghhh: could you possibly have other vid drivers installed. I had that problem after swapping an ati card with a nvidia card, then went back to the original ati card and no X03:02
arrrghhhmefisto__, i've had a lot of inconsistencies with X03:02
mefisto__arrrghhh: all I had to do was uninstall the nvidia driver to fix it03:03
arrrghhhmefisto__, i've never swapped the video card in this machine.  no hardware was touched, and my X was working beautifully with both monitors (configured thru nvidia-settings) and i figured reinstating my old working xorg would be a piece of cake and it would just drop right in03:03
arrrghhhmefisto__, like remove the nvidia-glx package?03:03
arrrghhhi've also tried to use the binaries from the nvidia website (which worked for me in the past on feisty)03:04
mefisto__arrrghhh: yes, that's what I did. Maybe you could try a purge removal and reinstall with the Hardware Drivers tool in kmenu03:05
mefisto__arrrghhh: does the livecd start X?03:06
arrrghhhmefisto__, yes, using vesa.03:07
arrrghhhi'm using the vesa driver right now in fact03:07
mefisto__do the nvidia drivers still support your card?03:08
arrrghhhthey say they do03:08
arrrghhhjust says "geforce 8 series cards"03:08
arrrghhhi have an 8600gt03:09
arrrghhhkeep in mind this was working perfectly just the other day before i decided to upgrade to intrepid lol03:09
mefisto__arrrghhh: is your card listed when you do: apt-cache show nvidia-glx-legacy    ?03:10
arrrghhhlemme see03:11
mot_what's the difference between 'suspend' and 'hibernate' in kde 3.5.9?03:11
Dr_willis_I imagine one  is 'suspend to ram' other is 'suspend to disk'03:12
arrrghhhwell suspend is just supposed to put the computer in a low-power state03:12
arrrghhhand the hibernate actually turns it off, saving your ram to hdd03:12
arrrghhhlike mr willis said03:12
mot_well what would the benefits of each be?03:12
Dr_willis_of course i never USE either of the features.03:13
Dr_willis_:)03:13
Dr_willis_one uses no battery.. other does03:13
arrrghhhuhm well suspend it boots up quicker03:13
mot_hmm03:13
arrrghhhhibernate uses no battery03:13
mot_i've never used either03:13
Dr_willis_I dont even use the features under windows.03:13
mot_well let me test it out brb03:13
arrrghhhi used them when i was in skewl03:13
Dr_willis_They have 'issues'  too much03:13
arrrghhhand the funny thing is i never had any issues with it03:13
Dr_willis_and i can boot up my linux laptop in like 20-30 sec.. or less03:13
arrrghhhi've only done it with 1 laptop tho03:14
Dr_willis_plug/unplug/remove/add a lot of hardware.. :) and it can cause issues.03:14
arrrghhhwhat do you do to speed boot up?03:14
arrrghhhi saw a thing in the gentoo forums where guys were loading their /etc /usr etc folders into ram persistently.03:14
Dr_willis_Not a lot.. the default ubuntu/kubuntu is just quick on th elaptop03:14
Dr_willis_gentoo users tend to waste a lot of time to save a little time.03:14
Dr_willis_:)03:14
arrrghhhi couldn't figure out how to translate it to ubuntu03:15
arrrghhhyea they do that03:15
arrrghhhbut i really wanted to load firefox persistently into ram03:15
mot_hmmm03:15
mot_suspend works great.03:15
arrrghhhso even if it's closed, i can still call on it quickly03:15
mot_bbl sleep03:15
Dr_willis_I just never close it. :)03:15
arrrghhhor i should say run firefox exclusively from ram03:15
Dr_willis_if you loaded it, thenc losed it.. it should still be in ram when you start it again.03:15
Dr_willis_unless somting caused the cache to clear out i guess03:15
arrrghhhnot necessairly loaded it permanently into ram03:15
arrrghhhyessir you are correct it does load it into ram if i close and reopen quickly03:16
arrrghhhbut if i close, do a buncha stuff and reopen... not so much.03:16
arrrghhhi found this firefox-qs package that helped... just a firefox icon in the systray03:16
arrrghhhand sometimes it seemed to load quicker, like right after inital boot03:17
arrrghhhbut other times it seemed slower, so i dunno03:17
Dr_willis_sounds like a lot of worrying about nothing. :)03:18
arrrghhhmefisto__, i never answered your question.  my card is not explicitly listed, but no cards are really.  it lists "geforce" as a model, and there's a whole lotta cards that fall under that classification.03:18
arrrghhheh i like making things quick and efficient.  maybe i take it a little too far :P03:18
Dr_willis_FF takes 7 secs to load here..03:18
mefisto__arrrghhh: where did you find the firefox-qs package?03:19
arrrghhhit's not in the repo's03:20
arrrghhh@ kde-apps.org03:20
arrrghhhit's takin a while to load... http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kde-apps.org%2Fcontent%2Fshow.php%2FFirefox%2BQuickstarter%3Fcontent%3D31014&ei=6P6cSLHFJYnOtQOWstniAw&usg=AFQjCNFkgjI21W61ZJNmWHZDYvEHoX0IFQ&sig2=UEZeTmZC71G-fyW5ps1-OA03:21
arrrghhherm www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Firefox+Quickstarter?content=3101403:21
arrrghhhalright i'm gonna try to restart X03:24
umasshello?03:31
arrrghhhok so i just saw one of the craziest things03:33
arrrghhhand i've seen it before03:33
mefisto__good crazy or bad crazy?03:34
arrrghhhuhm bad03:34
arrrghhhi have a video03:34
arrrghhhjust need to u/l it 1 sec03:34
arrrghhhhttps://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01ITGszQVN6NE0wTVE9PQ03:39
arrrghhhcheck out that Dr_willis mefisto__ tell me if you've ever seen that...03:39
arrrghhhi went to the k-menu clicked log out and restart, and that was the screen i was met with.03:40
Dr_willis_Video driver glitz03:40
arrrghhhschweet03:41
Dr_willis_i see that often with ati video cards over the years03:41
arrrghhhi purged all the nvidia stuff03:41
Dr_willis_some times the console/framebuffer has issues wiht the X video drivers03:41
arrrghhhand installed nvidia-glx nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig.  i went to logout to restart the x server and yea03:41
Dr_willis_and may not reset the console properly and so forth03:41
arrrghhhsweet03:41
arrrghhhi love linux, but there have been a lot of strange crashes03:41
Dr_willis_compared to the strangeness i have in windows.. i will stick with linux03:42
arrrghhhit's real stable... but if there's just something slightly wrong some of the strangest stuff happens lol03:42
arrrghhhand yea, forget windows03:42
Dr_willis_I would say 90% of it - is video drivers.03:42
arrrghhhi have to fix those pos's all the time, i hate their uninstall/install method of software.  it's getting so buggy, ccleaner's uninstaller system works better than the built-in windows crap.03:43
arrrghhhah well.  i'm thinking it might've been that install.03:44
arrrghhhi was installing it from my flash drive which has a kubuntu persistent install on it.03:44
arrrghhhi followed instructions from pendrivelinux.com, they made it real easy but it caused some problems03:44
arrrghhhi'm reinstalling again from my ubuntu 8.04 cd.  hopefully that works lol03:45
intreqhay03:48
intreqany one here knows any rpg games that can be compatable with kubuntu?03:49
letalisdepends native or emulated?03:49
intreqsome thing like lastchaos03:49
intreqi googled some games fo linux, and i found urban terror, and is good, but i like rpg better03:49
Dr_willis_theres dozens^2  of games out there.. depends on exactly waht you want03:50
Dr_willis_No idea what 'lastchaos' is never heard of it.03:50
mefisto__intreq: I came across this yesterday: http://rangit.com/software/top-8-linux-games-of-2007/   might be something there you will like03:51
letalistheres a plethora of things that will run under wine as well03:51
intreqthanks man, i will really look into it03:51
intreqoooo , i tried wine03:52
intreqand is screwed up03:52
letalisi have both fallouts and divine divinity on this box.03:52
Dr_willis_DOSbox and the old dos games are fun alwo03:52
Dr_willis_with wine  - it depends a lot on the exact game.03:52
letalisand i had oblivion running but it has some issues.03:52
letalis:P03:52
letalisand guild wars.03:52
intreqlol03:53
intreqhay can u guys tell me som egames u like03:53
intreqi currently have urban terror03:53
intreq:03:53
intreq;D03:53
Dr_willis_!games03:54
ubottuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php03:54
Dr_willis_I tend to play some of the Various PopCap Games in Wine..03:54
letalistheres a remake of wing commander for linux thats really good.03:54
Dr_willis_or FreeCiv/FreeCol.03:54
letalisthe game that used to be called crossfire was fun, though the graphics were pretty bad :P03:55
Dr_willis_bad is relative...03:56
Dr_willis_:)03:56
letalisgameplay is what matters.03:57
letalisbut alot of people judge entirely on what it looks like.03:57
letalisive seen games with beautiful graphics and utter trash for gameplay.03:57
intreqi personally thinks that wine is useless04:00
intreqand annoying to configure04:00
letalisnot really.04:00
letalisi remember when it was useless.04:01
letalisLOL04:01
letalisbarely run notepad at one time04:01
intreqbtw thanks guys04:01
intreqi got a nice rpg game04:01
letalisit has definately grown up over the years.04:01
letalisthe original Neverwinter Nights has a native linux client.04:01
intreqthe bad thing is04:03
intreqi have to pay04:03
Dr_willis_I cant say that ive had to fight with wine very much at all.04:03
Dr_willis_Getting the Native NWN Client working under linux.. now THAT was a pain when last i tried it.04:03
letaliswine is rather painless anymore to setup04:03
letalislol04:03
letalisi agree Dr_willis_04:03
Dr_willis_Wine does id say about 70% of the PopCap Games I try with no hassles.04:04
letalisi remember trying to get quake2 running in redhat.04:04
Dr_willis_others dont work worth a poo.04:04
letalisLOL04:04
Dr_willis_the fact that wine works as well as it does..  is amazing04:05
intreqquestion04:09
intreqwhy is most games for linux is first person shooting?04:09
Dr_willis_I would say that is a false statement intreq04:09
Dr_willis_id software is noted for porting most all of their games to linux.. but that does not make 'most' games for linux.04:10
intreqooops04:10
intreqsorry04:10
intreqbut the only rpg game i saw from that link is savage04:10
intreqwhicg i am trying04:10
Dr_willis_I would not call 'savage' a RPG.04:10
Dr_willis_its a fps. :)04:11
Dr_willis_Savage2 just came out recently also.04:11
intreqahh04:11
intrequ have any good rpg to suggest>?04:11
Dr_willis_depends on how you define 'rpg' i guess..04:12
Dr_willis_I tend to playt the  SNES RPG's with the snes emulators.04:12
faileasDr_willis_: in part cause id programmes portably. its trivial, just needs recompilation04:12
intreqwhat i mean rpg is like04:13
intreqolden days04:13
intreqkinda like wow04:13
Dr_willis_olden days = WoW ?04:14
Dr_willis_You are not very old then. :)04:14
Dr_willis_Olden Days RPG = SSI and  the old D&D RPG games.04:14
Dr_willis_Ultima I II and so on.04:14
intreqno imean04:14
intreqforget it04:14
intreqhard to explain04:14
dschulzdoes anybody knows when Qt 4.4.1 packages will be available in hardy-backports?04:19
letalisi dont even consider MMO's of any kind rpgs04:20
letalistheyre just griefing/grinding games.04:21
letalisLOL04:21
Dr_willis_SolitareRPG04:21
intreqjust can't find a prg for linux that i like04:22
intreqsad04:22
intreq:(04:22
Dr_willis_I imagine you are expecting some miracal.. or you are not looking very hard.04:24
Dr_willis_:)04:24
Dr_willis_Inever did buy Savage2... i ment to do that..04:24
intreqi don't have money04:24
intreq:(04:24
intreqi like savage a lot04:24
Dr_willis_You are not looking veyr hgard then..04:24
intreqbut got no money04:24
Dr_willis_Savage 1 - is FREE04:24
Dr_willis_Savage2 has a comercial demo04:24
cilkayHello. Is there a 64 bit version for Core2 CPUs? I see one for AMD64.04:24
Dr_willis_cilkay,  that one will work.04:25
cilkayOK, thanks.04:25
Dr_willis_!find lbreakout04:25
ubottuFound: lbreakout2, lbreakout2-data04:25
Dr_willis_lbreakout2 - :) an awsome  remake  of the classic breakout.04:26
oscarespañol04:27
oscarespañol04:27
Dr_willis_What about espanol?04:29
Dr_willis_!es04:29
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.04:29
arrrghhhwell that's sad... vanilla ubuntu saved the day.  vanilla kubuntu (installed via flash drive as opposed to CD) did not want to cooperate.04:34
webpiratehello all..04:35
webpirateI have a question.....04:35
webpirateanyone here?04:35
arrrghhh!question | webpirate04:36
ubottuwebpirate: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)04:36
webpirateI have a problem that I forgot how to fix....I just re-installed kubuntu 8.0464 bit and the some of the gl screensavers dont' work from kdesktop...I forgot how I fixed it last time...anyone remember how?04:37
webpirateI remember I had to re-install something but I have tried to  reinstall all the opengl and screensaver stuff and I am still stuck04:37
arrrghhhhrm... have you tried turning off compositing and kwin any of that crap to see if it was effecting it?  i dunno, i don't use screen savers.04:38
webpirateyea..I moved my xorg.conf over...from old setup..I just wish I remember what I had to re-install04:39
webpirate:(04:39
webpirateits just that when you get ubuntu installed you don't have to re-install it for such a long time that you forget..04:39
webpiratenot like windows where you are constantly fixing the same problem..04:40
webpirateoops...closed the window04:40
arrrghhhlol i know what you mean04:41
webpirateThe screensavers listeed under OpenGL Screen Savers work fine....but the ones not listen in any categorty do not ...like my favorite one Colorfire..04:41
arrrghhhi just had a heckuva time with my video card drivers again, and vanilla ubuntu saved the day.  vanilla kubuntu... not so much.  i tried to drop a backed up xorg.conf in and it broke X.  everything broke X04:41
arrrghhhhrm04:41
arrrghhhhave you installed kubuntu-restricted-extras and alll your vid card drivers?04:42
webpirateYes..nvidia card install properly..04:42
webpirateI have to check synaptic again to see what to re-install04:42
arrrghhhinstall kubuntu-restricted-extras04:42
webpirateok..04:43
webpiratehow abotu this.......04:43
webpiratethe screensaver workes in gnome but not KDE..04:43
webpiratewhat do you think about that?04:43
webpirateok I fixed it.....anyone want to know how?04:45
arrrghhh?04:45
webpirateI installed kscreensaver-xsavers-extra and now the screensavers work04:45
webpirateRemember to click on "Run-nice" when selecting screensavers of you CPU usage will be high04:46
webpirateof = or04:46
Daisuke-Laptopis there really any point to screensavers anymore?  i just set the display to blank when it's been idle for 10 minutes, no need to make my pc and monitor work extra if i'm not there04:47
webpirateI just like the screensavers so I know that my 3d is setup properly...04:48
webpirateif the screensavers skip alot then I know that there is something eating resources..04:48
arrrghhhlol04:48
arrrghhhyea i just set my screen to go in low-power mode04:48
webpiratewhich I found happens alot with ubuntu 32bit....but not with 64bit04:48
Daisuke-Laptoptop will tell you that a lot quicker than waiting for the screensaver to kick in, then waiting to see if it runs well :)04:48
arrrghhhi was actually trying to figure out how to force the login screen to go into low-power much faster cuz it sits on that screen the most.04:49
Daisuke-Laptoparrrghhh: mine are single-user machines, i don't bother logging out :D04:49
arrrghhhyea mine used to be a single user machine04:49
arrrghhhuntil i got a girlfriend and a roommate lol04:49
webpirategkrellm would show me 0% cpu usage but screensaver would skip alot so I checked ksysguard and firefox would spike every 5 seconds or so04:49
Daisuke-Laptopgirlfriend i can understand, but roommates buy their own computers :)04:50
arrrghhhyea he bought the ps304:50
Daisuke-Laptopof course, i just built my fiance a shuttle-style box, she's got her machine and i have my 3 :D04:50
webpirate4 years windows free here!! :)04:50
arrrghhhnot really a fair trade... but he pays for a 1/3 of the internet and i use way more b/w lol.  not like we get charged by the kb or anything04:50
Daisuke-Laptopthat's not a bad deal then04:50
arrrghhhyea... i just end up turning old machines into file servers lol.  i don't have room for more monitors.04:51
arrrghhhi have my 17" and my 42" monitor hooked up to 1 machine, and that's plently let me tell you04:51
webpirateYou don't need more monitors....VNC is the way to go..04:51
arrrghhhi don't need multiple machines...04:52
webpirateset them up turn them on and then VNC into them when you need to do something on them04:52
Daisuke-Laptopdesktop ( Daisuke_Ido ), this laptop, and my media center machine, which is a horribly ugly old emachines box running geexbox04:52
Daisuke-Laptopwebpirate: i tend to just ssh, but that's me :)04:52
arrrghhhi was gonna say the same thing04:52
arrrghhhno x server04:52
webpirateYes....ssh is way better....04:52
webpiratewell there is a way to run x programs with ssh..04:52
arrrghhhthese file servers are like 300 mhz lol04:52
Daisuke-Laptopbut it uses the local X04:53
Daisuke-Laptop-X option04:53
webpirateuse the -X switch when running programs04:53
arrrghhhi don't want graphical programs on them04:53
webpiratebut sometime you have to...04:53
webpiratejust remember that -X lets you run them on the client side but daya and commands get sent to server04:53
webpiratedaya = data04:53
webpirateI guess I still need 32bit forefox for flash with ubuntu 8.04 64bit right?04:54
webpirateanyone try the open flash player for firefox 3?04:55
webpiratecan some one send me the tutorial for install firefox32 with flash on ubuntu 8.04 pwetty pwease..04:58
crwebwebpirate:  apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree04:59
Dr_willis_data and commands? Err... I think thats technically wrong...  but..  Im not follwing the conversation totally..05:00
webpirateok I will try that....what about for java..05:00
crwebwebpirate: google, ubuntu restricted formats05:00
arrrghhhi just install the kubuntu-restricted-extras05:00
crwebor that05:00
webpirateI need firefox 32 thught right?05:00
crwebwebpirate: install kubuntu-restricted-extras05:01
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crwebthats all05:01
crwebapt-get takes care of dependencies05:01
benjaminI'm trying to enable my new HD. I formatted it as ext3, but when i try to enable it in the system settings, it says, "The system reported: mount: mount point /dev/sdb1 is not a directory"05:02
benjaminany know how to fix this?05:02
webpirateMake sure that you are using the right mount point....I can never figure out the correct mount points..they change all them time..05:04
webpiratetry sdb005:05
crwebthats why you use partition labels05:05
webpirateyup05:05
crwebe2label /dev/<yourdevice># "Name"05:05
Dr_willis_!find wesnoth05:06
ubottuFound: wesnoth, wesnoth-all, wesnoth-aoi, wesnoth-data, wesnoth-did (and 14 others)05:06
webpiratebut I always thought that sdb was for removable drive and hda was for hard drivers.05:06
crwebsdb is scsi block device05:06
crwebusb and removable media use scsi interface05:06
webpirateyes...that what I ment.....sorry05:06
webpirate:(05:06
crwebso does serial ata though05:07
webpirateThey took my xmms away from ubuntu 8.0405:07
benjaminyeah, it's a sata drive05:07
Dr_willis_!xmms05:08
ubottuxmms is no longer being developed, see http://bugs.debian.org/461309 for more details.  Consider using audacious instead.05:08
webpiratebut xmms look so much kooler!05:08
* Dr_willis_ dosent really care. :P05:08
Dr_willis_xmms is still haunting us in other ways as well.05:08
crwebxmms2 and get a client05:08
Dr_willis_I never DID get xmms2 actually working.. heh heh05:08
webpiratethere are tricks on getting xmms installed..05:09
webpiratethere are .deb packages available..05:09
crwebits like using winamp in 1999 though.. ugh05:09
webpirateI know thats why I love it!05:09
webpirateWinamp ricks..05:09
webpirateI mean rocks05:09
Dr_willis_winamp is getting where it  has way too many ads/spammy features for me.05:10
crwebthats why i said 199905:10
webpirateads?05:10
Dr_willis_Not that i use it under windows (or windows much)05:10
Dr_willis_stupid banner ads on the shoutcast/other browser windows and poping up wanting me to upgrade/yadda...yadda..05:11
webpirateoh..05:11
webpirateI only use ubuntu so I don't know..05:11
Dr_willis_Of course ya got the spam when ya just ainstall the silly thing05:11
Dr_willis_'install this extra free stuff that you dont really want?' (Y/N)05:12
Dr_willis_The Winamp/Orb/Remote feature is handy. :) when it works05:12
webpirateyou begin to realize after a few years of using linux how much windows really does suck....unless you are a gamer...otherwise it really does nothing..05:13
webpirateI keep closing the damn window05:13
Dr_willis_Givewn thhat i seem to spend more time 'fixing' windows' so i CAN play games... then the actual  playing of said games... I will stick with linux05:13
webpirateI meed a different IRC program....KSirc is kinda lame05:14
webpiratewell you can still get Americas Army for linux..05:14
Dr_willis_I was thinking the Latest AA, dropped Linux support.05:14
Dr_willis_but i havent tried that game in Years.,05:14
Dr_willis_I never could get out of bootcamp. :)05:14
webpirateyes..AA is stuck on version 2,5 for linux..05:15
Dr_willis_I did get Savage 1 working under ubuntu just a little bit ago05:15
webpiratehow can I install sun java for firefox...icedtea sucks.. :(05:16
Dr_willis_Find the sun java package in the package manager perhaps?05:16
Dr_willis_I forget its exact name05:17
Dr_willis_!find jre05:17
ubottuFound: docbook-jrefentry, icedtea-java7-jre, libjrexx-java, openjdk-6-jre, openjdk-6-jre-headless (and 3 others)05:17
Dr_willis_!java05:17
ubottuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper05:17
webpirateI wish I knew more about java programming....ICEDTEA is SOOOOO close to being java but not just there yet05:17
Dr_willis_never noticed. :) i just tend to install what i need to run the few java apps i use.05:18
Dr_willis_Wich is FreeCol at this time.05:18
Dr_willis_java -version05:18
Dr_willis_java version "1.6.0_06"05:18
webpiratein a few months Icedtea will probably be perfect clone of java05:18
flaccidicedtea is java, its just not sun05:19
Dr_willis_I was thinking that also flaccid  but - my Java-fu-knowledge is rather minimal. :)05:19
webpiratewell...it has a few flaws that need to be addressed05:20
Dr_willis_webpirate,  the wife said the same thing about ME the other day....05:20
Dr_willis_:P05:20
webpiratehe he h e05:20
webpiratenow I will fight with sun java to get it installed05:25
webpiratetoo bad automatix does not work with 8.0405:25
webpirateAutomatix was awesome05:25
abwhostwhi05:33
webpiratehi05:34
arrrghhhautomatix sux05:36
abwhostwI have problem wioth my apache05:42
arrrghhhuh... alt-f2 no longer brings up the run dialog....05:42
arrrghhh!question | abwhostw05:42
ubottuabwhostw: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)05:42
abwhostwhhhhhhhhhhhhhh05:42
abwhostwyeah05:42
arrrghhhthat is a problem05:42
abwhostwwhen I got to the brosswer type05:43
abwhostwlocalhost05:43
abwhostwgive me05:43
abwhostwerror05:43
flaccid!enter | abwhostw05:43
ubottuabwhostw: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!05:43
flaccidabwhostw: specify the error always otherwise we can't help you05:43
abwhostwNot Found05:43
abwhostwThe requested URL /index.php was not found on this server.05:43
abwhostwApache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.4-2ubuntu5.3 with Suhosin-Patch Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 8005:43
arrrghhhlmao kubuntu made it win key+r cuz i said it wanted it "like ms windows" double click etc05:44
arrrghhhabwhostw, ok... and the file does indeed exist?05:44
abwhostwyeah05:44
arrrghhhwho owns it?05:44
flaccidabwhostw: thats a 404, it means that index.php does not exist in your DocumentRoot05:45
arrrghhhls -l05:45
arrrghhhwww-data should own it05:45
abwhostwabwhostw@(none):~$ ls -l05:45
abwhostwtotal 118805:45
abwhostwdrwxr-xr-x 2 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 07:38 Desktop05:45
abwhostwdrwxr-xr-x 3 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 15:53 Documents05:45
abwhostw-rw-r--r-- 1 abwhostw abwhostw   11217 2008-08-08 13:17 files05:45
arrrghhhabwhostw, uh... i was talking about ls -l'ing your /var/www dir05:45
flaccid!pastebin | abwhostw05:45
abwhostwdrwxr-xr-x 6 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 15:29 installd05:45
ubottuabwhostw: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:45
arrrghhhstop05:45
arrrghhhquit05:46
abwhostw-rw-r--r-- 1 abwhostw abwhostw 1161257 2008-07-09 07:02 latest05:46
arrrghhhabwhostw, stop!05:46
abwhostwdrwxr-xr-x 2 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 07:38 Music05:46
abwhostw-rw------- 1 root     root          74 2008-08-08 13:23 nano.save05:46
arrrghhhTHAT'S NOT WHAT I ASKED FOR05:46
abwhostwdrwxr-xr-x 2 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 07:38 Pictures05:46
abwhostwdrwxr-xr-x 2 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 07:38 Public05:46
abwhostwdrwxr-xr-x 2 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 07:38 Templates05:46
abwhostwdrwxr-xr-x 2 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 07:38 Videos05:46
abwhostwhow to fix the priblem05:46
flaccidabwhostw: learn apache.05:46
arrrghhhi can't help you if you're going to be like that abwhostw05:46
abwhostwuh05:46
flaccidabwhostw: default DocumentRoot is /var/www not your homedir or anything05:46
level1_hi, I'm using Karbon14/kde4... theres a widget to choose color but the method is very weird... is there a way to set it to RGB or HSV?05:46
arrrghhhabwhostw, and if you look in /var/www i bet there's no index.php05:47
abwhostwyeah05:47
arrrghhhlevel1_, this is for kde305:47
arrrghhh#kubuntu-kde4, or there's probably a #kde405:47
abwhostwbefore it's said it's work05:48
abwhostwand after is disapper05:48
flaccidabwhostw: if /var/www is your doc root and you run this command: file /var/www/index.php and it returns No such file or directory then what it says is true, there is no /var/www/index.php05:49
flaccidabwhostw: reading and learning https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP will definately help you with some basics05:50
abwhostwi did05:50
abwhostwand doesn't help to fix my problem05:50
flaccidabwhostw: we gave you the solution to your problem. the file doesn't exist..05:51
abwhostwapache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}05:51
flaccidabwhostw: where did that come from?05:51
arrrghhhis that a log?05:52
webpiratemy amsn is broken :(05:52
arrrghhhwebpirate, just use pidgin05:52
abwhostwwhen I type05:52
abwhostwcmmd05:52
abwhostwapache205:53
flaccidabwhostw: thats not how you start/run apache thus why you read the above link.05:53
arrrghhhabwhostw, apache runs as a daemon service.  if you put "ps -A | grep apache" and it returns something, than apache is running05:53
SchijnnCould someone tell me where Firefox is installed?  I'm trying to install the Adobe Flash plugin, and I've tried every Mozilla-related subfolder of /usr/lib, but it won't accept any of them.05:53
flaccidabwhostw: apache is started with sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start or sudo apache2ctl start05:54
arrrghhhSchijnn, usually /usr/lib/05:54
arrrghhhSchijnn, and profiles in /home/<user>/.mozilla05:54
abwhostwabwhostw@(none):/root$ ps -A | grep apache05:54
abwhostw 6261 ?        00:00:00 apache205:54
abwhostw 6341 ?        00:00:00 apache205:54
arrrghhhabwhostw, so apache is running05:54
abwhostw 6342 ?        00:00:00 apache205:54
abwhostw 6343 ?        00:00:00 apache205:54
abwhostw 6344 ?        00:00:00 apache205:54
abwhostw 6345 ?        00:00:00 apache205:54
abwhostw 9156 ?        00:00:00 apache205:54
abwhostw 9175 ?        00:00:00 apache205:54
abwhostw 9176 ?        00:00:00 apache205:54
arrrghhhjeez quit with that!05:54
arrrghhh!flood05:54
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:54
flaccid!rules | abwhostw05:54
ubottuabwhostw: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines05:54
arrrghhhlol05:54
flaccidhehe. abwhostw if you don't listen, then please leave.05:55
* arrrghhh thinks flaccid picked a better one05:55
abwhostwok05:55
abwhostwthe biggest problem I transfer my pc to Ubuntu05:56
abwhostwI was had windoes server 200805:56
arrrghhhhorrible... abwhostw you're really not workin the sympathy card here at all.05:57
flaccidabwhostw: get into the habit of specifying your problem on 1 line and make sure you put detail in the problem, so we actually know what the problem is specifically otherwise you are wasting your typing05:57
SchijnnI still can't get any sound from Flash in Firefox, and Konqueror locks up whenever I go to Youtube.05:57
arrrghhhSchijnn, do you have the kubuntu-restricted-extras package installed?05:57
webpirateGRR icedtea java sucks...05:58
flaccidwebpirate: totally05:58
arrrghhhbut cross-platform ease!05:58
webpirateI guess I have to do the 32bit forefox thing...damn..05:58
arrrghhhis about it's only benefit...05:58
arrrghhhwebpirate, yea running a 64-bit os with flash is frustrating to say in the least05:59
arrrghhhi don't understand why they haven't released a 64-bit optimized version of flash05:59
arrrghhhadobe suxors.05:59
flaccidarrrghhh: you answered your own question05:59
arrrghhhi do that often05:59
Schijnnarrrghhh: I do now.  Konqueror no longer locks up, but flash still isn't loading.06:00
arrrghhhSchijnn, ok 1 sec06:00
arrrghhhdid you restart firefox #106:00
webpirateanyone wanting java in 64bit use GCJ Web Browser Plugin instead of Iced tea06:00
webpiratetype in about:plugins in the browser and see if flash is listed06:01
Schijnnwebpirate - it is, but my only problem in FIrefox is sound.  I'm not even getting a picture in Konqueror.06:02
abwhostwE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)06:02
abwhostwE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?06:02
webpiratehmm..06:02
webpiratestrange06:02
arrrghhhabwhostw, are you root when running the command?  ie did you put "sudo" before it to change to a super-user?06:02
flaccid!adeptfix | abwhostw (make sure no other programs using apt)06:02
ubottuabwhostw (make sure no other programs using apt): If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »06:02
arrrghhhthere's that too06:03
flaccidabwhostw: it always helps if you try to tell us what you are trying to do as well, otherwise there could be many different situations with different answers06:03
arrrghhhdamn i have the java fix but i don't remember wrestling with flash and sound.  did you install flash from multiple places Schijnn06:03
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abwhostwabwhostw@(none):/root$ sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock06:04
abwhostwsudo: unable to resolve host (none)06:04
arrrghhhflaccid, let's just try to guess them all until we're blue int he face06:04
webpirateanyone know if there is a 3in1 for ubuntu 8.04?06:04
Schijnnarrrghhh: Yeah, I did.  Adept and Adobe.com06:04
arrrghhh3in1?06:04
Dr_Willis_3in1 ?06:04
Dr_Willis_That sounds perverted06:04
arrrghhhSchijnn, uninstall 'em all06:04
webpiratewas a script that installed 32bit firefox, flash and java all in one shot06:05
arrrghhhSchijnn, and either stick with the one included in kubuntu-restricted-extras or the one from adobe's site.06:05
Dr_Willis_I dont mess with 64bit disrto.. so no idea06:05
arrrghhhyea i got tired of wrestling with flash in 64bit06:05
Schijnnarrrghhh: Okay, how do I uninstall the one from Adobe?06:05
flaccidabwhostw: you probably stuffed up your /etc/hosts file, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/20359306:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 203593 in ubuntu "sudo: unable to resolve host HOSTNAME (dup-of: 32906)" [Undecided,New]06:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 32906 in sudo "sudo fails if it cannot resolve the local hostname and no MTA is installed" [High,Fix released]06:06
webpiratewell flash works perfectly for me...but my java apps freeze after they are loaded..:(06:06
arrrghhhSchijnn, well there should just be a thing listed for flash in the plugins folder.  /usr/lib/firefox-3.0/plugins i think06:06
arrrghhhSchijnn, when i mean think a file ending in .so that's related to flash06:07
arrrghhhthat will remove your link from flash to firefox06:07
abwhostwbash: /etc/hosts: Permission denied06:07
arrrghhhabwhostw, i think you don't understand sudo06:07
arrrghhh!sudo  | abwhostw06:07
ubottuabwhostw: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome), or !kdesu (KDE)06:07
arrrghhhplease READ06:07
intreqcan u guys tell me a bit why u like kubuntu?06:08
arrrghhhSchijnn, there might be a way to completely uninstall flash with dpkg...06:08
arrrghhhintreq, over ubuntu or what?  and you're opening a can of worms...06:08
Dr_Willis_'Chicks dig men that can work in the console!'06:08
SchijnnI found it, it was in /home/<user>/.mozilla/plugins06:09
arrrghhheverybody has their own opinions as to why they use what06:09
arrrghhhSchijnn, ah yea the profile folder06:09
abwhostw27.0.0.1       localhost06:09
arrrghhhDr_Willis_, well there are some chicks who dig geeks...06:09
abwhostw127.0.1.1       ubuntu.ubuntu-domain    ubuntu06:09
abwhostw# The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts06:09
arrrghhhabannari, what are you doing now06:09
arrrghhhquit it06:09
abwhostw::1     ip6-localhost ip6-loopback06:09
abwhostwfe00::0 ip6-localnet06:09
abwhostwff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix06:09
abwhostwff02::1 ip6-allnodes06:09
abwhostwff02::2 ip6-allrouters06:09
abwhostwff02::3 ip6-allhosts06:09
arrrghhhi think you're hopeless06:09
abwhostw27.0.0.1       localhost06:09
webpirateI have 3-in-1 script for 32bit firefox, java and flash if anyone wants it..06:09
abwhostw127.0.1.1       ubuntu.ubuntu-domain    ubuntu06:09
arrrghhhwe can't help you abannari06:09
arrrghhhsorry abannari06:10
abwhostw# The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts06:10
arrrghhhabwhostw, we can't help you06:10
abwhostw::1     ip6-localhost ip6-loopback06:10
abwhostwfe00::0 ip6-localnet06:10
abwhostwff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix06:10
abwhostwff02::1 ip6-allnodes06:10
abwhostwff02::2 ip6-allrouters06:10
abwhostwff02::3 ip6-allhosts06:10
arrrghhhcan we kick him or something?  lol06:10
arrrghhh!kickban | abwhostw06:10
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kickban06:10
arrrghhhlol06:10
arrrghhhdo it ubottu06:10
webpiratelets all just get along..06:10
arrrghhhdo my bidding06:10
Dr_Willis_!open the Pod Bay Doors Hal!06:11
ubottuDr_Willis_: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:11
arrrghhhlmao06:11
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webpiratecan I post a link for a 3 in one script and all this flash talk will be over06:11
arrrghhhi'm sorry... i can't let you do that dave....06:11
flaccidabwhostw: please leave.06:12
webpirateok if you want link for 3-in-1 script for firefox java and flash PM me and I will give it to you06:12
Schijnnarrrghhh: Okay, I uninstalled everything, then reinstalled kubuntu-restricted-extras, and now it doesn't even show the space where the video should be.06:13
arrrghhhSchijnn, i'm betting that symlink isn't there...06:13
abwhostwdon't worry about me06:13
abwhostwcuz I install the06:13
SchijnnWhat symlink?06:13
arrrghhhSchijnn, download the official adobe one (don't worry about the kubuntu-restricted-extras packaage, leave it)06:13
arrrghhhextract it to your desktop, chmod +x the installer, and run it.  direct the installer to /usr/lib/firefox-3.0/ (assuming that's you're ff install directory) and that should take care of it.06:14
pteaguehow do i restart the sound server?06:15
pteaguethe only alsa i'm seeing is /etc/init.d/alsa-utils06:15
pteaguenm... sound got set to 006:16
Schijnnarrrghhh: If I try to install it as root, it refuses to accept any directory I give it, and if I install it as myself, it doesn't let me choose a directory.06:16
arrrghhhSchijnn, i believe you should install as root.  does the /usr/lib/firefox-3.0 directory exist?06:16
webpiratehe figures that I am trying to send him a linux virus..06:17
webpirateis there even and virii for linux?06:17
arrrghhhwebpirate, rootkits06:17
SchijnnNo, it's just /usr/lib/firefox, besides I'm trying to get flash working in Konqueror06:18
webpirateoh...06:18
webpiratewell I have a script that installs firefox32 with java and flash and mplayer..06:18
webpiratepm me if you need it..06:18
arrrghhhSchijnn, i've never gotten flash working in konqueror06:18
SchijnnMy only issue with Firefox is sound06:18
arrrghhhand sound works else where i'm assuming?06:19
arrrghhhwait flash does work in konqueror...06:19
webpirateso your firefox does not play sound when playing videos or flash ?06:19
arrrghhhall i installed was kubuntu-restricted-extras, and flash works perfectly in konqueror.  are you running 64-bit kubuntu Schijnn06:20
Schijnnwebpirate: right, no sound in Firefox, but it works fine elsewhere06:20
Schijnnarrrghhh: No, I'm not06:20
arrrghhhSchijnn, there's a volume control on the flash applets, you've checked both of them?  there's a some advanced settings if you right click on a flash app06:21
arrrghhhwell i guess there's not a vol control there...06:21
SchijnnAll I see there is Display, Privacy, Storage, Microphone, and Camera06:21
arrrghhhyea there's not a vol control there sorry.  what about the vol control that's normally on the video app?06:22
arrrghhhSchijnn, do a "sudo dpkg --purge flashplugin-nonfree"06:23
Schijnnarrrghhh: done06:23
arrrghhhand then install flashplugin-nonfree via apt-get or aptitude or whatever06:24
arrrghhhmake sure you restart your browsers06:24
arrrghhhand if it still doesn't work there's probably something else you need to purge that i'm not aware of.  did you try to install any other flash renders like gnash?06:24
webpirateBlah...it hurts me to see all the time wasted.....06:25
Schijnnarrrghhh: Yeah, but I uninstalled that a while ago.  Also, still no sound.06:26
arrrghhhwebpirate, lol then you fix it06:27
webpirate:006:27
webpirate:)06:27
arrrghhhSchijnn, and you didnt' install gnash or any of the other ones?06:27
webpirate3in1 :)06:27
arrrghhhi can't remember any other flash renderer lol06:27
arrrghhhwebpirate, lemme look at the script06:27
Schijnnarrrghhh: I just said I did, but I uninstalled it a while ago06:27
webpiratehttp://www.hackradio.ca/ff32-3in1-6.2.8-1.tar.gz06:28
SchijnnAlso, that flashplugin-nonfree never seems to do anything.  I don't think it's connecting.06:29
arrrghhhSchijnn, oh i didn't get that part...06:29
arrrghhhand that's the package that i have06:29
webpirateI am actually gonna update the script to install firefox306:29
arrrghhhsound works, flash works, konqueror firefox opera whatever06:29
arrrghhhwebpirate, downloading a .deb from a comcast host?  that just looks baaaaaad06:30
webpiratewell it works for me..06:30
arrrghhhthat's cool06:31
arrrghhhkubuntu-restricted-extras got flash, java, mp3 support, and god knows what else.06:31
arrrghhhall working for me by just installing that meta-package06:31
webpiratei tried that but java applets freeze unless I use sun java :(06:32
arrrghhhbummer06:33
arrrghhhworked fine for me :P06:33
SchijnnAlright, I'm going to go and reboot, and see if that has any effect.  If not, I'll give up for now.06:33
arrrghhhlol okie06:34
arrrghhhreboot for me too06:34
arrrghhhand i'm spent06:36
brandonflaccid: Hey have you come up with any ideas (sidewinder gamepad detection)06:38
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webpirateanyone having problems with amsn?07:28
webpirateMy amsn won't connect.....07:29
webpiratebut kopete does...07:29
webpirateany ideas?07:29
flaccidbrandon: i pasted solution yesterday for you here..07:29
webpirateanyone useing amsn here?07:31
flaccidwebpirate: if someone can help, they will.07:31
holycowevil has no hold over me07:31
brandonflaccid: I could not understand what you were wanting me to copy07:36
flaccidbrandon: i pastebinned a new xorg.conf for you. paste your current one if you want me to do it again07:38
flaccidhmm i'll just check log07:38
brandonhold on, let me paste bin07:39
flaccid[Thu Aug 7 2008] [16:38:54] <brandon_>  flaccid: here it is any way http://paste.ubuntu.com/35011/07:39
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flaccidhmmm maybe i failed to paste it, i'll just redo it07:40
flaccidgive me your current one but just in  case there were changes to xorg.conf07:41
brandonwhere is it again...lol07:41
flaccidin /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:41
flaccidor just open kystemlog and voila07:42
brandonflaccid"http://paste.ubuntu.com/35786/07:45
flaccidbrandon: no it won't especially if the device is usb. did you put this in there? http://paste.ubuntu.com/35789/07:52
brandonno. do you want me to07:53
flaccidbrandon: it already was there, what put it there?07:55
brandono yes I put that in there thinking that is what you wanted me to do because the link you sent before you left was a forum thread about a mouse and I didn't know it would work.07:55
flaccidok 1 sec then07:55
brandonsorry about that07:55
flaccidnp. brandon give this a try http://paste.ubuntu.com/35790/ and if it doesn't work pastebin the X log. (you must restart X from kdm after updating the xorg.conf)07:57
brandonok...give me a few08:00
flaccidk08:01
happosadeWhat to need install to get WMA-streams works in amarok08:19
flaccid!codecs | happosade08:20
ubottuhapposade: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:20
flaccidhapposade: as per the link above, kubuntu-restricted-extras should do the trick08:22
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happosadeemmm08:28
happosadestill dont work08:28
happosadewhit this stream: http://akastreaming.yle.fi/vp/fiyle/no_geo/live_f.asx08:28
flaccidhapposade: what happens? thing is the codec might be available, but the plugin won't be if its web08:30
happosade"not playable"08:30
flaccidhapposade: yes but what says that and with what browseR?08:30
flaccidyou might need to use something like mozilla-mplayer which is what im listening to it with now08:31
mefisto__happosade: in my experience amarok often fails to play audio streams when every other audio player I've tried (both xine-based and mplayer-based) will play the same stream without problems08:33
crimsunerr, amarok uses libxine by default ..08:35
mefisto__is firefox 3.0 using Iced Tea java plugin by default instead of sun java?08:36
flaccidah yes i misread, sorry..08:36
flaccidlet me see what amarok does08:36
flaccidhapposade: that won't play in amarok at all for me. maybe people in #amarok can help08:37
flaccidhapposade: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+question/437808:38
flaccidthing is i have w32codecs installed and i still can't play08:38
flaccidhapposade: if i put in http://a713.l2187818713.c21878.e.lm.akamaistream.net/D/713/21878/v0001/reflector:18713?auth=da_cxaRaAazcyb7abdacjbtcOcHbTbpbVbv-biNuN1-E-qkG-p6o9&aifp=v01&WMBitRat08:43
flaccide=&WMCache=0 manually, amarok reports no suitable input plugin, so i'd suggest using something else other than amarok.08:43
mefisto__happosade: kmplayer plays that stream. and I bet anything else you try would work too08:46
flaccidthere are many reports of .asx not working in amarok at all08:47
brandonflaccid:My mouse quit working08:47
crazy_busdo all usb and other microphones work on kubuntu or are their recommended brands?08:48
brandonflaccid:my controller is still not being detected by jscalibration or joystick (peripheals)08:50
brandonflaccid: sorry bout that I restarted the xserver to get my nvidia card working again.08:52
flaccidbrandon: so where is the log pastebin?08:52
flacciddid the mouse work at all?08:53
flaccidwell mouse as in sidewinder, which is a joystick right?08:54
brandonflaccid:http://paste.ubuntu.com/35797/08:54
flaccidbrandon: thats the xorg.conf. i want the xorg log when running this new config08:55
brandonflaccid:ksystemlog???08:55
flaccidbrandon: /var/log/Xorg.0.log08:56
flaccid[17:53] <flaccid> did the mouse work at all?08:56
brandonflaccid:The mouse would not work at all. I had to do a recovery to get it to work08:56
Dr_williscrazy_bus,  usb audio can be a little tricky at times. from whaat i hear in these channels.08:56
flaccidbrandon: recovery?08:56
mafuHello there. I want to have auto-login enabled (because my harddrive is already encrypted and I don't need another passphrase to access the computer), and in the control settings, it says in red writing: Attention! Read Help! Only, if I press F1, there is no help index page.. What to do? :)08:58
crazy_busthanks Dr_willis08:58
urkkiI'm on KDE 4.1 Why can't I get my installed themes to appear?08:58
brandonflaccid: I could not get it to work and can't use command line very well at all...lolhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/35798/08:58
Dr_willismafu,  just enable auto login then if you want. :)08:58
mafuDr_willis: it's just that I'd like to know what the other options do. :)08:59
Dr_willismafu,  never really noticed the others.  I just set it up to auto login a user after 30 sec normally. I think theres an option to not wait.08:59
Dr_willisI think it can also just auto login after a crash..  the kdm config file has a lot of comments/info on the autologin stuff as well09:00
dwidmannurkki: what sort of "themes"? Widget styles? Window Decorations? Color schemes?09:00
mafuBtw, I just saw that there IS help for it.. There are two entries named "System Settings" (next to each other), where one of them is selected at start and is empty..09:00
brandonflaccid: that probably screws up the log that you wanted to see doesn't it...09:00
mafuDr_willis: okay, thank you. :)09:00
mafuDr_willis: should I file a bug report for this minor thing?09:00
Dr_willismafu,  i wouldent set it to autologin after a SHORT time - like 2 sec... set to somthing like 20-30 so you got time to do any 'changes' you may need at the kdm screen. (like select a session or so forth)09:00
Dr_willismafu,  if you want.  I doubt if it will metter much. :P09:01
urkkiI'm on KDM-manager, tab 4 "Themes"09:01
flaccidbrandon: yes i don't see the mouse mentioned in there at all. paste the log when using the xorg.conf i suggested. learn to use X/kde without needing a mouse. no need to go drastic09:01
urkkidwidmann: I downloaded from there09:01
dwidmannurkki: ah, KDM themes09:01
urkkiIs that the right place to change appearance?09:02
mafuDr_willis: Okay, thanks. :)09:02
dwidmannAppearance of the boot manager? Yes.09:02
dwidmannerm09:02
dwidmannmeant to say login manager09:02
dwidmannwhere did boot come from09:02
dwidmannbad me, bad e09:02
mafuD'oh.. The docs don't say anything about what persistent means..09:02
brandonflaccid: I had the irc ubuntu up, but could not get it to Kubuntu...lol09:02
urkkiAh, ok. But how about changing the whole look and feel of OS?09:03
Dr_willischange windowmanager/desktops :P09:03
dwidmannurkki: for the rest of the stuff, you'll want to go to system settings -> appearance09:03
dwidmannAnd is it me or is kde-look.org down or something09:03
Dr_willisseems down here dwidmann09:04
flaccidbrandon: oh then just /join #kubuntu09:05
Dr_williskde-look.org  isent even timing out.. firefox just tries to load and then stops... oh wait.. there ' page load errror'09:06
Dr_willisThe connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.09:06
dwidmannOpera says "Bad Response From Server"09:06
brandonflaccid:was wanting to ask you how to get the tab at the bottom to #kubuntu without a mouse09:07
Dr_willis'bad server, no cookie!'09:07
flaccidbrandon: alt + left arrow / alt + right arrow09:07
flaccid:)09:08
brandonflaccid:thanks! I'll try that xor.conf now09:08
brandonflaccid:can you give me that pastebin again09:10
brandonflaccid:sorry to be such a pain09:11
flaccid[Sat Aug 9 2008] [16:57:55] <flaccid>   np. brandon give this a try http://paste.ubuntu.com/35790/ and if it doesn't work pastebin the X log. (you must restart X from kdm after updating the xorg.conf)09:12
brandonflaccid:here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/35800/09:21
brandonflaccid: mouse is working but sidewinder is not detected09:25
Dr_willisthis is a sidewinder game pad? or a sidewinder mouse?09:27
brandonDr_willis: Yes it is a sidewinder gamepad09:30
Dr_willisbrandon,  My USB sidewinders work - some games I need to tell them the proper joystick device to use09:31
Dr_willisoften games look for /dev/js0 when they should be using /dev/input/js0 now a days (or so i recall)09:31
flaccidbrandon: mouse?09:31
brandondr_willis: Mine is not a usb and I can't get it to be detected09:32
flaccidthis is why we look at the log09:32
spiongraz__hi does anyone know, is there maybe already a kubuntu remix iso avail with kde4.1 integrated?09:32
brandonflaccid: mouse is working fine (microsoft explorer)09:32
Dr_willisYou actually have one of those Old  Gameport ones? :) I got some of those also. You may need to load the module for it manually09:32
flaccidbrandon: usb?09:33
flaccidah good point... brandon you must also have the sidewinder kernel mod loaded09:33
brandonflaccid: mouse is usb09:33
flaccidwhich you should of put in /etc/modules09:33
flaccidlog says (WW) Configured Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... which suggests the xorg.conf directives i suggested are not in xorg.conf ..09:34
flaccidDr_willis: maybe you would like to take over, i have to cook curries.09:35
brandonflaccid: is this the right one? http://paste.ubuntu.com/35800/09:35
flaccidDr_willis: here is the suggested xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/35790/ which specifies the correct device09:35
flaccidthat looks like the same kind of thing09:36
flaccidi have to cook, ciao09:36
Dr_willisegads. You have an actual serial mouse?09:36
Dr_willisif not then   Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"09:37
Dr_willis  is totally wrong09:37
brandonflaccid:Thank you for everything. I offer you my mother for payment....lol09:37
brandonflaccid: seriously, thanks09:38
brandonDr_willis:I have kubuntu 8.04 (64), sidewinder gamepad, microsoft explorer usb wireless mouse.09:39
Dr_willisthen your xorg.conf line is incorrect for your mouse...09:39
Dr_willisgame pad has NOTHING to do with the xorg.conf09:39
brandonDr_willis: please help cause I am a NOOB09:40
_2that conf looks like they are doing their best to completely do away with xorg.conf09:40
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Dr_willisOption "Device" "/dev/input/mouse0"09:40
Dr_willis   or Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"  is proberly the line you need to use in the xorg.conf09:40
Dr_willis_2,  yep. they are going slowly towards a very minimal xorg.conf file09:41
brandonmy mouse is working fine, but I can't get the sidewinder to be detected.09:42
Dr_willismust be ignoring the wrong mouse lines then in the xorg.conf file09:42
Dr_willisand the gamepad has NOTHING to do with the xorg.conf :)09:42
* _2 wonders if the devaults will work yet... rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ;startx .....09:42
brandonso what should I do09:43
arty_hi all09:44
arty_if I wont to mount09:44
arty_some iso like this09:44
arty_what is the reaght command09:44
_2you don't use09:44
arty_sudo mount  -o loop smb://192.168.1.17/data/SOFTWARE/!APPS!/!AUTOCAD's!/AUTODESK.AUTOCAD.V2009.WIN32-ISO/acad_2k9_win32.iso /mnt/iso09:44
_2enter as punct09:44
arty__2: what you mean?09:45
flaccidDr_willis: yes its serial, thus why i put that in there09:45
_2!enter | arty_09:45
ubottuarty_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!09:45
arty_ubottu: sry09:45
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about sry09:45
Dr_willisflaccid,  gotta love all the confusing info... :)09:45
flaccidits serial...09:45
arty_some help with this command pls    sudo mount  -o loop smb://192.168.1.17/data/SOFTWARE/!APPS!/!AUTOCAD's!/AUTODESK.AUTOCAD.V2009.WIN32-ISO/acad_2k9_win32.iso /mnt/iso09:46
Dr_willisas for the gamepad.... he proberly needs to load the 'gameport' module , and the  lets see....09:46
flaccidso good luck. but what i can tell you is that we worked it out to be ttyS009:46
Dr_willisand the 'sidewinder' module.09:46
Dr_willisI dont see how a 'usb' mouse can be /dev/ttyS0 :)09:46
flaccidDr_willis: yeah we already did that yesterday, brandon just has to make sure it its loaded now or kept in /etc/modules..09:47
flaccidDr_willis: its not usb, its serial. this is what brandon told me yesterday.09:47
brandonhere is my etc/modules   http://paste.ubuntu.com/35800/09:47
flaccidif it is usb, then i was misconfirmed09:47
Dr_willishe just said its working and its a microsoft explorer usb wireless mouse.... So im going to ignore the whole mouse issue.. :)09:48
_2arty_ you'll have to quote that because of special chars in it.09:48
flaccidDr_willis: thats the other mouse...09:48
brandonThe mouse is usb, but the gamepad (sidewinder) is serial. The mouse is working fine, but the sidewinder gamepad is what is not09:48
arty__2: some exsample pls09:48
_2arty_   sudo mount -o loop "smb..." /mnt/iso09:49
flaccidtechnically the gamepad is a mouse brandon09:49
Dr_willisbrandon,  You need to load the 'sidewinder' module for the gamepad to work09:49
Dr_willisbrandon,  try 'sudo modprobe sidewinder' and see if it works.09:49
brandonok just a sec09:49
arty__2: thx09:50
flaccidbrandon: the pastebin link you provided is not /etc/modules.09:50
_2arty_ welcome09:50
Dr_willisbrandon,  you may need to load 2 modules.      'sidewinder' and 'gameport'09:50
brandonhere are the modules i have http://paste.ubuntu.com/35806/09:51
Dr_willisbrandon,  you may need to also load  'gameport'09:52
urkkiHmm, something wrong with kubuntu, I can't change window styles09:52
brandonhere is the response I get from modprobe http://paste.ubuntu.com/35807/09:53
flaccidbrandon: yeah you might need gameport even though the serial port is already accessible etc.09:53
Dr_willisbrandon,  the tail end of the 'dmesg' command - will tell you any info after loading a module.09:53
_2arty_ an fyi ffr anytime you have special chars "!@#$%^&*'`~"  you will probably need to quote things.   and ! can't be quoted properly so try to avoid it or use   \!   maybe like this. .....   sudo mount -o loop smb://192.168.1.17/data/SOFTWARE/\!APPS\!/\!AUTOCAD\'s\!/AUTODESK.AUTOCAD.V2009.WIN32-ISO/acad_2k9_win32.iso /mnt/iso09:53
flaccidno return is good for mods09:53
_2no error means no error09:54
brandondme56 command not found09:55
* Dr_willis thinks one should 'check their spelling' when entering commands...09:55
Dr_willis:P09:55
Dr_willis'dmesg'09:56
_2too l33t for their own 6ood09:56
Dr_willisor use some better fonts....09:56
Dr_willis:P09:56
djdarkmanhello, is there a way to sync two kontacs on two seperate pcs?09:56
traqnhas anybody started swish max2 on kubuntu with wine09:57
flaccidbrandon: as per yesterday, we identified that dme56 is not needed or nothing to do with your sidewinder..09:58
_2arty_ for testing whether a thing needs special quoting use; echo "that specia! thang's name"09:58
brandontell me if this is right http://paste.ubuntu.com/35808/09:58
brandonsorry I had wierd font. I changed it now09:59
brandon:)09:59
_2arty_ example    echo "my special char`s list"   <<<---- the ` will need special attention. as the shell will show09:59
_2and use ^C   or   ^D   to terminate that test...10:00
flaccidbrandon: still waiting for X log when using my configuration to see what the problem is..10:00
brandono sorry just a sec10:02
brandonflaccid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/35809/10:02
_2error in config file    : Unknown parameter `##'10:03
_2modules.conf maybe ?10:03
flaccidbrandon: you cannot get (WW) Configured Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... in the log if you have specified one in xorg, which is what i did..10:05
flaccidie. Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"10:05
brandonso the sidewinder wont work?10:06
_2i think you fellows will find his problem in a module configuration file10:06
_2his dmesg says      [   45.947348] joydev: Unknown parameter `##'10:06
_2 [   45.956014] ns558: Unknown parameter `##'10:06
_2 [   45.976720] sidewinder: Unknown parameter `##'10:06
flaccidnot if the user cannot configure it brandon10:06
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flaccidbrandon: there is also this solution which uses a different driver. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=613697 unfortunately things cannot be solved if the user is new to linux/unix10:07
brandonhow do I configure it? :)10:07
flaccidbrandon: i already showed you and over and over you fail, so i give up.10:07
flaccidreplace user and press any key :)10:08
brandonflaccid: well thanks for trying though10:08
brandonlol...10:08
flaccidthats ok. you have two solutions, so if you put your mind to it and persist, you may be able to get it10:09
Dr_willisif you load the proper modules for the gamepad.. it err.. should just work..  Im confused as to how this is related to the xorg/mouse at all.10:09
flaccidso try the second solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3827298&postcount=4  <-- those instructions should be easy to understand10:09
flaccidDr_willis: because it doesn't just work10:09
_2!"just works"10:10
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about just works"10:10
_2!""just works"10:10
_2pfft10:10
flaccid!worksforme10:10
ubottuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/10:10
Dr_willisflaccid,  ive also been hearing its a 'side winder gamepad' now im hearing its a 'sidewinder mouse'  Those 2 are not the same thing. :)10:10
Dr_willisSO i give up.10:10
flaccidDr_willis: thats because microsoft called it a gamepad... bill's fault10:11
sluckzi give up for tonight as10:11
sluckzwell10:11
sluckznight all10:11
_2lets all give up...10:11
brandonhere are the modules I have 03:51] <brandon> here are the modules i have http://paste.ubuntu.com/35806/ tell me if this looks like the right ones10:11
Dr_willisErr... I have a sidewinder game pad, i have several.. one usb old, one gameport (very old), and a sidewinder mouse..10:11
Dr_willisSo now the water is all mudy as to whats actually going on,... so good luck :)10:12
brandonok both are made by microsoft one is the mouse (explorer) the other is gamepad (sidewinder) they were both free and I can't argue with free....lol10:13
flaccidDr_willis: so when you say gameport, you mean rs232 serial?10:13
flaccid(db9 connector)10:13
Dr_willisflaccid,  No... I mean the old 'midi' style gameport often found on sound cards10:14
_2brandon no. line 11 12 13 are incorrect.   remove everything after the module names     anything following a module name in that file is passwd as module arguments10:14
leneais anyone using graphics tablet?10:14
_2passed   even10:14
Dr_willisI dont recall ever seeing a 'serial' gamepad/joystick on a pc. :) (on my amiga yes) not the pc.10:14
brandon2:ok let me try that then10:15
_2Dr_willis and on c64   but i'm with you, never saw a pc one10:15
flaccidDr_willis: well brandon reports his is serial, plugged into a serial pci card or something. thinking back now its probably gameport and plugged into a card that is not being recognised. meh i so cbf spending time re-working now10:15
Dr_willis_2,  so this is all adding more and more to my confusion. :P10:15
* _2 comes to almost the same confusion10:16
Dr_willisI think its time for brandon to go hit the wiki pages for these 'ports' and conectors and see what he actually has.10:16
_2wikipidia.org too10:17
flaccidhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_port10:17
emonshi guys, does anybody of you use imageshack to share images on the web? well, i used to do with xp but since a use hardy im not able to upload any image, when i try it takes ages showing me the "loading" window but it just doesnt move, till it says "connection interupted". can someone help? thanks10:17
flaccidhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_port10:17
flaccidshouldnt be hard to work it out now10:17
flaccidits either 9 or 15 pin at the end of the day despite both being d connectors10:18
_2!flash | emons maybe it's flash ?10:18
ubottuemons maybe it's flash ?: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash10:18
brandonI know what the ports are the gamepad (sidewinder) has a plug on it that looks like the one for my flat panel and it has 15 pins10:18
_2vga is 15 pin D   ?10:18
emonsi already installed flash and it seems to work well with all the other animations and stuff10:18
flaccidbrandon: right then its gameport10:18
flaccidso i wasted my time entirely10:19
brandonwhat do you mean10:19
flaccidi'll leave you with Dr_willis if he feels like helping10:19
flaccidbrandon: gameport is 15 pins.10:19
Dr_willisHeck.. load the 2 modules.. it should work...  thats about all there is to it.10:19
brandonI know10:19
flaccidDr_willis: reportedly 'it doesn't work' doing it like that10:19
_2emons i don't know then.   that was my only guess.10:20
emonsalright thanks10:20
emonsflaccid, any idea?10:20
brandonI'll load the modules and see10:20
Dr_willisflaccid,  i have to wonder how hes 'testing' that gamepad10:20
flaccidemons: world peace10:20
emonsthatz a pretty cool one, i'll tell god10:20
brandonI try to use jscalibrator and joystick in the peripheals and neither can detect it10:20
emonsany idea about why i cant upload images with imageshack?10:21
flaccidgod doesn't exit. now im going to spend time with my curry instead of wasting it here.10:21
Dr_willissudo modeprobe gameport10:21
Dr_willissudo modeprobe sidewinder10:21
Dr_willischeck 'dmesg' output10:21
emonsc'mon flaccid, its a sunny day today, put a smile on that face and help me :D10:21
flaccidDr_willis: and just a reminder, there is this solution if 'zero config' in xorg.conf fails (again): http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3827298&postcount=410:21
flaccidemons: people will help you if they can/want to10:22
Dr_willisas a test one could do 'cat /dev/input/js0' and see if anything gets spit out   ctrl-c to close the 'cat' test10:22
brandonDr_willis: modprobe returned nothing10:22
Dr_willisflaccid,  err.. thats for a sidewinder mouse.. not a sidewinder gamepad.10:22
emonsi no flaccid, but i also no u helped me in the past, and that was a pretty good help, u solved like 3 of my probs, thatz why i want you :D10:22
Dr_willisbrandon,  we covered that earlier..  modeprobe is not very verbose in its output if things get loaded..10:22
_2od would be prettier output than cat...10:22
emonsdont u remember the statue i said i'd raise up for u? eheheh10:23
flaccidDr_willis: if they are different products then i was mislead as we identified it as serial but now its gameport..10:23
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brandonI was jsut letting you know so we don't get confused about any of this.10:23
flaccidemons: well helpers get pissed with people pinging them when they should ask in the channel. so you won't get help from me like that10:23
flaccid!u | emons10:23
ubottuemons: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officer, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..10:23
Dr_willisI think the correct joystick device is /dev/input/js0 now a days...10:24
emonsflaccid? i'm not pinging you at all... what are you talking about?? alright as i u want...10:24
brandoncat says command not found10:24
flaccidemons: im referring to [19:20] <emons> flaccid, any idea? <-- dont do that10:25
Dr_willisHmm.. if the command 'cat' is not found.. You either did a major typo.. or are missing some very fundamental commands10:26
_2or /bin not in path10:26
flaccidmeh milk is sour, i'll be back after de stressing from lack of compensation10:26
brandoni'm sorry it says no such directory not command not found10:27
emonssorry mate, that was just because _2 said he had no other "guesses" no other "ideas" about how to solve my problem, then i see you in the channel, remembered the way you helped me the last times and thought: let's ask flaccid. don't see how that could be rude or mean, or however you took it. sorry mate, was only asking for help...10:28
_2brandon ls /dev/input10:28
Dr_willisit may be /dev/js0 or /dev/input/SOMTHINGELSE Im not on a ubunttu box wth a game pad to double check what its called now2 a days10:28
Dr_willisthis is what 'dmesg' would of mentioned at the end. after you loaded the modules succesuffly10:28
emonstoo late...10:28
emonsalright, bye guys, take it easy10:30
_2i think it needs to be /dev/input/*   for the tools afore mentioned to work.10:32
brandonhere is what i get from ls /dev/input  http://paste.ubuntu.com/35819/10:32
Dr_willisif theres no /dev/js* or /dev/input/js* devices *(where * is a #) then either you need to load a few more modules.. or the device is not seen properly.  si my guess10:33
florianHi! With the standard apt-sources after installing kubuntu (kde4), do i get kde4.1 updated automatically sometimes?10:34
Dr_willisI was thinking there was to be a change to make gamepads show up on some other devices.. but never seen that happen yet.10:35
Dr_willis!kde410:35
ubottuKDE 4.1.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1 - Support in #kubuntu-kde410:35
_2brandon   sudo mknod /dev/input/js0 c 13 0     # would make the device node. but i suspect that udev should have already made it 'IF' the module was inserted and the device activated    i'll  try to not confuse this issue any farther10:35
florianDr_willis: thanks!10:35
Dr_willisgiven all the modules he has been trying to load/handload.. it may be best if he just rebooted with the gamepad plugged in. and see what dmesg shows up and if it works then.10:36
Dr_willisHard telling what other extra modules are loaded now10:36
brandon_2: do i include th # with that?10:37
_2brandon doesn't matter.  the # is a comment which will cause bash to ignore the rest of the line.10:37
brandonok10:37
brandonit's there now10:38
shamilcould anyone in here help me out with luks password changing over lvm?10:39
Dr_willismanually making the device node... is proberly NOT going to help.. :)10:39
_2brandon   od /dev/input/js0     # and move the stick to see if it outputs anything.10:39
_2Dr_willis only for a test case.   only for a test case.10:40
shamili found as many instructions as possible for changing a luks password, but none pertain to luks over lvm partitions10:40
Dr_willisYea. :) i would definiatly say a reboot after all these testings would be a good idea10:40
brandonlet me reboot then and we can see what happens...:)10:40
_2brandon did you correct your /et10:41
_2never mind10:41
_2/etc/modules  file10:41
* Dr_willis runs away and hides10:42
_2if he didn't,  reboot will help nothing.10:42
_2and is un-needed anyway.10:42
_2one could use modprobe w/-r  to achieve the same end10:43
Dr_willisgiven how long it took to just get anything done....... it will proberly take him 3 hrs to reboot10:44
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Agent_bob:)10:44
brandonstill not detecting the device on /dev/input/js010:47
brandonwhat should /etc/modules say?10:48
brandonshould I have something specifying a location for any of those modules10:48
Dr_willisYou simply give the module name to be loaded10:49
Dr_willisthe 'lsmod' command will show what modules are loaded/inuse10:50
Agent_bobinuse ?10:50
Agent_boboh  heh  in use   sorry.  i'm slow10:51
brandonthanks Agent-bob10:51
Agent_bobwelcome10:51
brandonI downloaded them so should i restart X10:51
Dr_willisand its also possible you need to load the proper module for whatever soundcard/device the gamepad is plugged into.10:51
Dr_willisdownloaded them? Huh?10:52
brandonAgant_bob sent some modules to me10:52
Agent_bobbe back in a few   have to make rounds.10:52
Dr_willisthat shouldent of been needed.10:52
Agent_bobbrandon no i corrected you /etc/modules   and sent it to you.10:52
Agent_bobyour10:53
brandonthanks10:53
Dr_willisits possible he needs to load the ---> emu10k1-gp10:54
Dr_willis  module also. if he has a creative soundcard10:54
DenthargHi10:54
DenthargI am new to Kubuntu; browsing FAQs, launchpad I did not find whether a binary package for KDevelop4 has been released.10:55
DenthargCan I get it from somewhere?10:55
DenthargI already am using KDE4.110:56
Hybridi have some problems with my usb's, they wont find anything, could anyone help me out?10:57
brandonlet me restart my x-server10:59
* Dr_willis missed what the X server has to do with this...10:59
mefisto__if I install kubuntu 64bit alongside 32bit (dual-boot) what can be shared between the two? can I use the same home dir? can both use the same swap partition? etc...11:03
brandondr_willis: I really appreciate your help along with everyone elses. But, I have to get to sleep, I have to get up in 2 hours.11:04
Denthargmefisto__: I would assume that /home can be freely shared11:04
Dr_willismefisto__,   personally i wouldent even mess with  64bit - unless you really needed it.11:04
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brandonYea I am findinf out the hard way huh11:04
brandonfinding11:05
brandonGood night to you all and maybe we can caht tomorrow11:05
mefisto__Dr_willis: speaking from experience? that's why I want to dual-boot, so I can try it and compare before maybe abandoning 32bit11:05
brandonchat11:05
Dr_willismefisto__,  most likely you will gain very little at this time.. Unless you just have to use more then 4+gb of ram.. or have other special needs11:06
mefisto__speaking of ram, does 32bit linux make all 4gb of ram available? I hear 32bit windows cannot (4gb ram will appear as 3.2gb or something like that)11:08
Dr_willisif you have EXACTLY 4gb of ram..  'it depends' :)11:12
Dr_willisand its a deep and complex issue. in short   various hardware/drivers  can take away from the total amount of ram that  the machine 'could use' thus  taking bites out of the 4gb limit.11:13
Dr_willisive seen it range from 3.2 gb to 3.8 gb of the 4gb thats seen..11:14
gnummdoes anyone know if kde4.2 will be in backports or in PPA in kubuntu 8.10?11:18
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tim_if i tick a box in firefox 3.0 there is no cross in the box, but the whole area becomes white, it's the same with the boxes in the compiz-ccsm window11:53
flaccidtim_: which theme?11:54
jaggulihi all ... im running the latest ubuntu server kernel 2.6.24-19-server my X hang everyday .... anyone else with similar problems ..11:54
jaggulii cant seem to figure out wats wrong .. nothing unusual in the logs .. happens when i leave the system running overnight11:55
flaccidjagguli: you could try reporting a bug with as much info as possible i guess11:56
jaggulithats the problem .. cant find anything in the logs11:56
jagguliso i dont know what is causing it ..11:56
flaccidwhich usually suggests hardware or a more in depth bug or something11:56
jaggulii suspect its the intel video drivers11:57
flaccidwhys that?11:57
jaggulithe display gets hung up but everything else is fine. ..11:57
jagguliamarok is playing .. serverts r running etc11:57
flaccidthat doesn't mean its the driver. still you can run the vesa driver to rule this out11:58
tim_flaccid: im using the standart theme, didnt change anything11:58
jaggulito create the senario i have to leave the computer inactive for long .. when i sleep and wake up .. its hung ...11:58
GerrySlyhow do I do this: http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/2555/screenshotbd4.png on kubuntu11:58
flaccidtim_: ah ok. i guess you could submit a bug with either mozilla or lp11:59
flaccidjagguli: oh. that could be quite a few things. not sure if i can help11:59
jagguliGerrySly: use superkaramba11:59
jagguli... hmmm11:59
jaggulii think its kwin12:00
jaggulicuz today ...it was hung up as usual ...12:00
flaccidGerrySly: do what exactly? it looks like gnome to me12:00
jagguliand i killed kwin12:00
GerrySlyflaccid: put the application as the background12:00
jaggulian it worked12:01
jagguliapt-get install superkaramba12:01
jagguliGerrySly:apt-get install superkaramba12:01
flaccidGerrySly: i don't know. we don't support gnome here.12:01
tim_if i press alt+f2(run-command) it only opens in background12:02
mefisto__tim_: I got rid of the firefox annoyance by installing kde-style-qtcurve and gtk2-engines-qtcurve, then in systemsettings, appearance, set gtk apps to use qtcurve style12:02
GerrySlyflaccid: I know that, I wanted to know how to do it on KDE lol which is why I asked12:02
flaccidGerrySly: im not aware of functionality to run an application as a wallpaper, sorry12:03
flaccidGerrySly: #kde might be able to help12:03
tim_mefisto__: thx, i'll try12:03
flaccidGerrySly: you might wanna be more specific with your questions if you don't want answers like that...12:03
GerrySlywell I got an answer from jagguli then you responded12:03
flaccidjagguli: superkaramba can run an application as wallpaper?12:04
mefisto__tim_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/19462412:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 194624 in firefox-3.0 "checkbox and radiobox rendering issue (dup-of: 220575)" [Low,Incomplete]12:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 220575 in gtk-qt-engine "[MASTER] checking radio buttons or checkboxes doesn't work correctly" [Medium,Confirmed]12:05
tim_everytime i try to install something i get this12:06
tim_After this operation, 0B of additional disk space will be used.12:06
tim_Richte sun-java6-doc ein (6-06-0ubuntu1) ...12:06
tim_This package is an installer package, it does not actually contain the12:06
tim_JDK documentation.  You will need to go download one of the12:06
tim_archives:12:06
tim_    jdk-6-doc.zip jdk-6-doc-ja.zip12:07
flaccid!pastebin | tim_12:07
ubottutim_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:07
tim_(choose the non-update version if this is the first installation).12:07
checkobhi, i gem uninstalled one of the base ruby packages and now ruby crashes with this error: no such file to load -- rbconfig (LoadError), even uninstalling and reinstall doesnt help12:07
tim_Please visit12:07
tim_    http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/12:07
tim_now and download.  The file should be owned by root.root and be copied12:07
tim_to /tmp.12:07
tim_[Press RETURN to try again, 'no' + RETURN to abort]12:07
tim_how can i abort this12:07
flaccidtim_: what are you trying to achieve?12:07
tim_flaccid: apt-get install something12:07
flaccidthis is german?12:08
tim_yes12:08
mefisto__tim_: doesn't it abort if you type no, then enter ?12:08
flaccidtim_: what does richte mean?12:08
tim_mefisto__: yes, but i cannot install anything12:08
mefisto__tim_: you get that message for everything??12:09
tim_yes12:09
flaccidi would purge sun-* then go from there12:09
tim_flaccid: what is purge?12:09
flaccidtim_: its an action to completely remove a package in apt or adept12:10
tim_just type purge sun-*?12:10
tim_as root?12:10
flaccidtim_: nope12:10
tim_apt-get purge?12:11
flaccidtim_: sudo apt-get remove --purge "sun-*"12:11
flaccidafter that test it. then after that install java as required.12:11
tim_ok nthx12:14
jagguliGerrySly:http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8483/snapshot3ak6.png12:14
jagguliGerrySly:something like this?12:14
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lakis1982i have installed kubuntu 8.04.1 kernel 2.6.24.19 update , but when i i boot the pc and  in the menu i select to boot from the new kernel , it doesnt get me into graphical enviroment ... i am in a " dos " like enviroment and i login there and it stays in dos ... it just says this ,  kinit : no resume image , doing normal boot12:40
flaccidlakis1982: goto a tty and login and check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to seee what failed12:41
lakis1982how do i do that ?12:41
flaccidlakis1982: ctrl + alt + f212:43
flaccidok im off12:51
risuhellow12:53
_d4vidOfficial Uzbek Ubuntu Support Channel #ubuntu-uz *for download of ubuntu latest stable release use http://ubuntu.uz13:11
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Fuduyis there any way of increasing the mouse wheel to above 12?13:40
timohi there, how do i know my laptop keyboard chipset? I want to get the latest driver for my laptop keyboard..13:52
timo!keyboard13:52
ubottuTo switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts13:52
timohmm that's no use13:52
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happosadewhit what encode .iso DVD to .avi ?14:41
happosade!encode dvd14:41
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about encode dvd14:41
happosade!dvd14:41
ubottuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs14:41
Anubihi guys. short question: i want to install Kubuntu 804 on a hdd with win14:45
Anubimy partition scheme is this: sda1, sda5, sda6 and sda7 are ntfs partitions. sda8, sda9 are ext3 and sda10 is swap. i deleted sda9 and sda8 to make just one ext3 partition and i have only one ext3 partition, but it's asking me Location for the new partition: Beginning or End.14:51
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Anubii'm a little confused, since my ext3 partition and swap partition are the last partitions on my hdd14:52
Anubiso...what should i do?14:55
dschulzAnubi: to be sure you should see the output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda14:58
dschulztry to understand how your partitions are arranged on disk14:59
yncxque se dice por este lado15:02
ubuntuwhere i can put an screenshot with my partition scheme ?15:04
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yncxnadie habla espanol aqui entonces/15:11
yncxme voy entonce no hay na que hacer aqui15:11
faileasAnubi: tinypic might work15:25
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concernedcitizenhey guys what's the remix version all abt?15:41
brmassaGuys, Kubuntu HARDY is not detecting my new SATA HDD. what should i do?15:43
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BluesKaj!konversation16:08
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about konversation16:08
BluesKaj!Konversation16:09
BluesKaj!info Konversation16:09
ubottukonversation (source: konversation): user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4ubuntu6 (hardy), package size 5011 kB, installed size 12956 kB16:09
BluesKajhmm, wonder when the 1.1 version will be available in the repos16:10
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RobiXhi 2 all16:11
RobiXi use kubuntu and windows (dual boot) - what is better: using a external drive with NTFS or with ext3 ?16:12
BluesKajRobiX, dunno for sure but personally I would use my internel drive for linux (ext3) and let windows (NTFS) reside on the external. It also depends on the uses you have planned for the external drive.16:17
* faileas tends to go for NTFS16:18
faileasor fat3216:18
gnummfaileas: for what?16:20
faileas"what is better: using a external drive with NTFS or with ext3 ?"16:20
faileasNTFS on linux seems to work better than ext2/3 on windows. fat32 should work on anything with no issues16:21
gnummwhat do you want to do with?16:21
gnummwhich operating system?16:21
faileasRobiX: you missed the original question ;p16:22
faileasoops16:22
faileasi mean gnumm - some asked about in in a kubuntu/windows envitonment16:23
RobiXfaileas: ;)16:27
RobiXBluesKaj: and => 50% Windows, 50% Kubuntu - NTFS, too?16:28
ubuntuquestion: can i install kubuntu on a usb hdd ?16:30
ubuntuhow can i do that ?16:31
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abby87ubuntu: kindly refer to this link http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/16:37
ubuntu10x abby16:38
abby87ubuntu:dunno if u like fedora or not but fedora supports persistance right in it http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo16:38
abby87ubuntu: :-)16:39
emonshello when i open a webpage sometimes this message appears "you have chosen to open index.php which is a php file from http://www.blabla.com what should firefox do with this file?" and then it wants me to chose the application i'd like to open the file with instead of just opening the page i selected. why does it do like this? how can i fix this? thank you"16:42
abby87emons: Firefox->Preferences->Content->File Types->Manage16:44
emonsthanks for your help, i'll try it right away16:45
abby87emons: select your file type & click "Change action"16:45
emonssorry but there's no "file type" under "content"16:46
abby87emons: try typing about:config in firefox address bar16:47
abby87emons: search for extensionx16:47
abby87*extensions16:47
abby87emons: change browser.download.hide_plugins_without_extensions to false16:48
emonssorry abbey but im a brand newbie and i dunno how to do that :D16:49
abby87emons: any site wic this prob occours?16:50
emonshttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Support then select "documentation"16:50
emonswhen i click on it, it tells what i said before16:50
abby87emons: wic link wen clicked does the prob occour... ? coz the prob is not occouring here16:51
emonsi told u its documentation16:52
abby87emons: that's the sites problem i guess its not documentation16:52
emonscuz the thing is, its not the only site that does that16:53
emonsso u think its not firefox or kubuntu's prob?16:53
abby87emons: *correction >that's the sites problem i guess its not ur firefox16:53
emonsalright cool16:53
emonsthank u16:53
abby87emons: u can always ask in the firefox channel16:53
abby87emons: its #firefox16:54
newki have a brand new kubuntu install that worked out of box wit my wired internet but now on last start the internet connects to ip 0.0.0.0 and doesnt allow access to the internet16:55
emonsah ok thank you abby. didn't no about that chan16:55
emonsthanks mate16:55
newki have a brand new kubuntu install that worked out of box wit my wired internet but now on last start the internet connects to ip 0.0.0.0 and doesnt allow access to the internet16:56
abby87emons: u welcome ..but still i think its just a bug in the site design ...don't worry much ...coz same prob is happening on my comp16:56
abby87newk: u did any changes to ur connection ?16:57
emonsthe thing is, i wanted to open "documentation" to solve some probs that i have on my kubuntu cuz i wasnt feeling to ask here but since it doesnt open it i guess ill have to :D16:58
newkno i tryed ... afterwards but it jus goes bac to the same16:58
abby87emons: fire away16:58
jurayhi16:59
abby87newk: wired internet ...is it direct connection ? i mean some adsl router and stuff u using?16:59
jurayis there somebody who can help my with KDE?16:59
newkethernet wired into the back16:59
abby87juray: hi juray16:59
abby87juray: sure we can16:59
jurayok its not to be a big problem only...17:00
abby87juray: wats ur prob ...if its a purely kde prob u can get better help on #kde ...17:00
emonsfire away? wath u mean? :D17:01
jurayif i swtch to the other desktop i dont want to see the window header in panel17:01
abby87newk: so as soon as u installed kububtu did it connect without any configuration?17:01
emonsit happened the same to me by the way17:01
emonsand now it goes slower than ever17:02
abby87juray: kde which version?17:02
newkabby87: perfect no problem... but unfortunately there was a hard shutdown and this seemed to affect it17:02
jurayhow to detect a kde version17:02
abby87juray:open any window> help > about KDE17:03
abby87newk: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart17:03
jurayK Desktop Enviroment. Release 3.5.917:04
abby87newk: have u tried ifconfig17:04
abby87newk: ?17:04
newkabby87 i tried it but im not sure exactly wat the command to do is17:05
newk?17:05
abby87juray: u checked that in konversation window?17:05
jurayno17:05
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jurayi opened some directory17:06
abby87newk: ifconfig will show the network interfaces on ur comp so open a terminal type ifconfig and any interface u have is listed17:06
newkabby87: there is 317:07
newketh0, eth0:avahi and lo17:07
newkas far as i no it was always eth017:07
abby87juray: i dunno bout kde 3.XX versions much but still try this right click on panel>task manager settings >check only show tasks from current desktop17:07
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abby87newk: lo is the loopback interface17:08
abby87newk: so lo is no prob ...avahi is the alien here...17:08
newkabby87: yeah wat is that ?17:08
abby87newk: u using a laptop??17:09
newkabby87: no main computer17:09
newkabby87: i hav ubuntu installed on my laptop and had it installed on this bu then something went wrong so i taut id try kubuntu17:09
newkits installed with wubi by the way17:09
abby87newk: sudo /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon stop17:09
newkabby87: still the wrong settings and all..17:10
mefisto__juray: right-click panel, Configure panel, then go to Taskbar, and select the boxes there, the way you want it to work17:10
abby87newk: this should work mostly ..coz avahi daemon was causing probs (i guess)17:11
newkrestart do any good?17:11
abby87newk: restart is such a windowishly stupid thing to do...its linux17:13
mefisto__newk: did ifconfig show an i.p. number for eth0, or just 0.0.0.0   ?17:13
newkmefisto__: jus 0.0.0.017:13
newkabby87: sorry bout that ,... thanks for help .. i am a linux noob17:14
newkmefisto__: in fact only kde network manager shows an ip address for eth017:14
mefisto__newk: what does it say when you do: cat /etc/network/interfaces   ?  still 0.0.0.0 for eth0  ?17:14
abby87newk: no don't be sorry and stuff ...its just one of the best things of linux ..bye-bye to warm booting17:15
newkmefisto__: it says nothing about eth0 at all jus lo17:16
abby87newk: did u disable avahi daemon by that command  sudo /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon stop17:17
abby87?17:17
newkabby87: yeah17:17
abby87newk: so now its working fine ? is it?17:18
newkabby87: no still nothing17:18
newkabby87: would it b possible its jus lik my ip address and all those configurations are wrong17:19
newkabby87: but i didnt change the,17:19
abby87newk: where & when do u see the 0.0.0.0?17:19
newkabby87: down in the bottom left tray inknetworkmanager thats the ip it gives for the "connection" i hav17:20
abby87newk: does it affect ur connection speed and stuff?  earlier was it showing ur original ip?17:21
newkabby87: there is no speed watso ever there is no connection to the internet. i dont no about earlier it was just workin no problem17:21
abby87newk: it doesn't connect at all ?17:23
abby87newk: have u confirmed with ur network provider?17:23
newkabby87: in the tray it looks lik it connects but it doesnt go to any websites like..17:24
newkabby87: if i ping my router and it doesnt respond does that mean no connection17:24
mefisto__newk: try this. right-click the knetworkmanager icon, manual configuration. disable eth0, and then enable it again17:24
newkabby87: my wireless internet is workin perfect on my laptop17:24
newkmefisto__ i did but to my eyes the "ip address" it gives is wrong17:25
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abby87newk: right click tray icon >options>go to online mode17:25
newkabby87:its alredi on online mode17:26
mefisto__what ip address does it show?17:26
mefisto__zeros again?17:26
newkmefisto:yeah ...17:27
amerigo! browser17:27
ubottuBrowsers available for Ubuntu: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), w3m (terminal-based), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), edbrowse (command-line), Opera (Qt, proprietary)17:27
amerigo! navigation17:28
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about navigation17:28
amerigo! modem17:28
ubottuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto17:28
mefisto__newk: you could try to manually configure it, put in the ip address you want (eg, 192.168.1.101) and see if that wakes things up17:28
newkmefisto__: as far as i no its lik automatic dchp and i dont no the gateway17:28
amerigoI gotta a problem in navogation17:29
abby87!factiod17:29
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about factiod17:29
amerigonavigation sorry17:29
abby87!factoid17:29
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots17:29
amerigoline is up17:29
amerigowifi router works17:29
amerigoin browser : the page request is displaied for a second...17:30
amerigothen disappears17:30
amerigoand i got a error17:30
amerigobroser protection not found17:30
amerigo.... some tips?17:31
amerigo! vista17:31
ubottuvista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows17:31
newkmefisto: abby87: thanks for the help... guess ill jus hav to keep trying thanks anyway17:31
abby87newk: try #ubuntu maybe those guys can help17:31
laci__I just installed compiz but it doesnt do anything, although I tried to change desktop effects. I cant see any change in visuals.. Any idea?17:31
Dr_willisYou did enable compiz? you do have the proper 3d video card drivers isntalled?17:32
mefisto__newk: you can try it, then change back to dhcp later. click configure interface button, put in a ip address, and netmask just choose the first in the list.17:33
laci__yes I have an ATI HD2400 pro, but with the default driver, not the latest catalyst17:33
Dr_willistheres 'default' as in the 'ati' driver.. then theres the 'fglrx' drivers that are in the repos..17:33
abby87mefisto__: can it be a prob of knetworkmanager?17:33
anthonythis is my first day using kubuntu comming from open suse 11.0 and i do have to say i am impressed17:33
Dr_willisthen theres the 'latest' :)  not in the repos.17:34
newkmefisto__:interestingly im back on windows xp on same computer and theres a problem wit the internet17:34
mefisto__abby87: I suppose it could be. I've had trouble with it before. but I'm far from expert in network stuff17:35
abby87newk: so its a prob wth ur service provider ?17:35
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mefisto__newk: sorry for asking the obvious, but are all your cables, etc plugged in ok?17:35
laci__compiz says "engine is installed on your system"17:35
newkabby87: wel i dont get it .. im using this laptop to talk on the same service provider... the same router lik17:35
newkmefisto__: thats wat i was thinkin for a second but they are yeah17:36
abby87newk: but its not working on windows xp u said...is ur interface card working?17:36
abby87newk: on windows try ping 127.0.0.117:36
laci__i can change effects level, but when i click apply nothing happens17:36
abby87newk: if u dont get reply then ur ethernet card maybe at fault17:37
afeijohi folks, I lost my toolbar on my kde3, how to restore?17:37
newkabby87: im gettin a replky17:37
fumanchu182afeijo: do you mean your panel menu at the bottom?17:37
afeijoyes17:37
mefisto__newk: try doing a shutdown, leave it powered off for a few seconds, then start up again. maybe your ethernet hardware is playing games with you17:38
fumanchu182did you delete it?17:38
abby87newk: try ipconfig/all on windows ..does it show 0.0.0.0 ?17:38
fumanchu182or move it?17:38
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fumanchu182afeijo: ?17:39
DreamCasterOMG 8.04 is really different from 7th edition17:39
fumanchu182DreamCaster: this is my first time using 8.0417:39
fumanchu182it is spiffy17:39
newkabby87: no it shows a ip address 169.254.17:39
newkthtas17:39
newknot17:39
newkthe rite17:39
newkips17:39
newkabby87: tho lik its usually 192.168.blah.blah17:39
abby87newk:but no connection17:39
abby87newk: ?17:39
newkabby87: none17:39
abby87newk: so its ur h/w at fault17:40
afeijofumanchu182: I reply: yes17:40
abby87newk: if it doesnt work on windows and on linux then its h/w17:40
newkabby87: i knew it didnt seem rite for linux to do something lik that :)17:40
mefisto__newk: try powering off, wait, then start up again.17:40
amerigo! vista17:40
ubottuvista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows17:40
fumanchu182that ip range 168.254 is a special range17:41
newkmefisto__: doin that now... thanks again ...17:41
fumanchu182it means your dhcp is messed up17:41
newkfumanchu182: oh brilliant......17:41
fumanchu182afeijo: did you delete it or move it? you can't reply yes to both...17:41
afeijofumanchu182: oh, those was to me.  I did nothing, no delete nor move, maybe some accident click but I'm not that stupid lol17:42
afeijoI rebooted already17:42
fumanchu182did it come back?17:42
afeijono17:42
afeijoI use autohide17:42
fumanchu182okay what i would lik eyou to do is right click on your desktop17:42
fumanchu182and click configure desktop17:43
newkmefisto: do i wait for ages or wat?17:43
afeijofumanchu182: ok17:43
fumanchu182oh wait17:43
fumanchu182in 3.5.9 you can't get ot your panels tha way17:43
fumanchu182eww17:43
afeijoalt+space and what prog?17:43
afeijoor alt+f2 ?17:43
fumanchu182trying to remember hold on17:43
afeijoin kde4 is plasma17:44
fumanchu182are you on kde4?17:44
fumanchu182i am on 3..5917:44
afeijono, 317:44
DreamCasterermm how can i add repositories in new kubuntu version?17:44
afeijoI have 4 but stop using for some bugs I found17:44
mefisto__do you want to start the panel?17:44
fumanchu182use kicker17:45
fumanchu182alt+ft17:45
fumanchu182alt+f2->kicker17:45
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mefisto__alt+f2, kicker17:45
fumanchu182thanks mefisto__17:45
fumanchu182my typing is less than stellar, i just woke up to ubuntu telling me it was finished installing :)17:45
abby87DreamCaster: open /etc/apt/sources.list in ur favourite text editor17:46
abby87DreamCaster: u must have root/sudo privilages to do that17:46
fumanchu182so i have an alias in a bash rc file that i use from my old suse distro17:47
afeijoI heard a sound, thats all with kicker17:47
fumanchu182hold on17:47
newkmefisto__: not workin after shutdown17:47
DreamCasterabby87 thanks a lot :)17:47
abby87DreamCaster: ;)17:48
amerigo ! windows in italiano17:48
ubottuamerigo: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:48
Dr_willis!it17:48
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!17:48
mefisto__newk: the only other thing I can think of is try the ethernet cable to the working one (laptop?) in the non-working one. might just be a bad cable. It's not impossible17:49
fumanchu182afeijo: alt+ft, konsole17:49
abby87newk: try asking ur service provider...or try it again with a spare ethernet card17:49
abby87newk: better first try with a spare ethernet card17:49
newkabby87, mefisto__: thanks very much for all the help ... appreciated17:50
abby87newk: ;-017:50
afeijook17:50
afeijokonsole open17:50
abby87newk: sorry wrong one ;017:50
mefisto__at least network cards are cheap to replace17:50
abby87:)17:50
fumanchu182run kicker17:50
fumanchu182you should get an error17:50
fumanchu182saying it is already running17:50
abby87is there any keyboard shortcut for kickoff(kde4.1)?17:51
afeijoyes, kill it?17:51
fumanchu182no17:51
fumanchu182i think you have a Hidden=true in your kde config file17:51
fumanchu182i am just tyring to remember which one has that setting17:51
afeijohmm17:52
fumanchu182it is a little different from my open suse 11.0 distro and i have been on this thing for about all of an hour :)17:52
fumanchu182"/home/anthony/.kde/share/autostart/17:52
fumanchu182hit that directory17:52
fumanchu182but obviously but your username where "anthony" is17:52
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fumanchu182s/anthony/yourusername/g17:52
afeijoI dont have autostart dir17:53
fumanchu182hmm odd17:53
fumanchu182you do have a .kde directory right?17:53
afeijoit has applnk, apps, config, locale, mimelnk, services, servicetypes, wallpapers17:53
fumanchu182go into config17:53
afeijoI'm at /home/feijo/.kde/share17:53
afeijolots of file at config17:53
fumanchu182vim kickerrc17:54
afeijook, I use nano17:54
afeijoautohidedelay=017:54
fumanchu182well that17:54
mefisto__afeijo: /home/feijo/.kde/Autostart     uppercase A17:54
afeijoautohidepanel=true17:54
fumanchu182set it to false17:54
fumanchu182then restart your x session17:55
afeijoautohideswitch=true, keep that?17:55
fumanchu182no17:55
fumanchu182well yes17:55
fumanchu182but don't deit17:55
fumanchu182but don't save17:55
fumanchu182i want you do to this17:55
fumanchu182get out of nano17:55
fumanchu182cp kickerrc kickerrc.back17:55
fumanchu182just in case17:55
fumanchu182:)17:55
newkabby87, mefisto__: workin:):):):)17:55
afeijook17:55
fumanchu182i just have  rule of thumb that if i am messing with settings files i do a quick backup17:56
afeijomefisto__: no existent17:56
fumanchu182what is 4 seconds of typing compared to half and hour of more or headacches17:56
afeijoto reestart x I logoff and logon?17:56
fumanchu182yeah or hit alt+ctr+delete17:56
afeijoits not windows! lol17:56
fumanchu182but you can't logoff w/o your kicker right?17:56
fumanchu182alt+Ctr+del resets x sessions17:57
fumanchu182err backspace17:57
fumanchu182alt+ctrl+bksp17:57
mefisto__you can also right-click desktop to log off17:57
fumanchu182eh yeah17:57
fumanchu182never noticed it17:57
fumanchu182i don't do much right clicking on my desktop17:58
fumanchu182i do have to say that i love that in this kde setup on ubuntu you can get to things very easily17:58
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fumanchu182but it is quite odd not being able to su to do thiings17:58
fumanchu182nas20017:58
fumanchu182err17:58
fumanchu182wrong window17:58
laci__Im a newbie and downloaded the latest ATI driver for linux  "ati-driver-installer-8-7-x86.x86_64.run". Now whats next?17:59
fumanchu182afeijo did kicker come back?18:00
afeijoit worked, thanks fumanchu18218:00
mefisto__fumanchu182: you can sudo su if you really need to be root18:00
afeijoI have my bottom panel, yes18:00
afeijobye :)18:00
fumanchu182enjoy afeijo18:00
fumanchu182ah so is that how it works18:00
hug0hey dudes!18:01
hug0all right18:01
mefisto__but normally just sudo ...commands ...18:01
hug0\sudo kick all18:01
fumanchu182mefisto__: well i am having problems mounting a cifs system18:01
hug0:P18:01
fumanchu182are you familiar with mount and cifs18:01
laci__what can I do with files with .run extension?18:01
mefisto__fumanchu182: not too much but just ask away, see if someone has an answer18:02
fumanchu182well lemme paste the command so people can pick it apart18:02
fumanchu182sudo mount -o user=anthony //192.168.1.5/anthony /media/nas200/18:02
fumanchu182nas200 does exist18:03
hug0Question: migrate from kubuntu 6.XX to Kubuntu 8.04.1.... how does ist work?18:03
fumanchu182and that is the ip of the nas18:03
hug0is it enough to copy the /home dir to a ext. drive?18:03
mefisto__laci__: you run them.    type ./executable-file.run18:03
hug0or is there enything more to do?18:03
fumanchu182i get the following errors18:03
hug0...thunderbird mails & extenios needed18:03
hug0i get no erros oOO18:04
DreamCasterermm help again please18:04
hug0y18:04
fumanchu182mount: block device //192.168.1.5/anthony is write-protected, mounting read-only18:04
fumanchu182mount: cannot mount block device //192.168.1.5/anthony read-only18:04
newkwat is the command for adept updater18:04
hug0apt-get update18:04
hug0or upgrade do download the updates as well18:04
DreamCasteri cannot get access to file:///etc/apt/sources.list18:04
hug0bad18:04
DreamCasteri cannot modify and save it18:04
hug0sudo?!18:04
fumanchu182i was about to say sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list18:05
mefisto__adept_updater18:05
bazhangDreamCaster, via nautilus?18:05
bazhangerr konqueror?18:05
hug0bye dudes18:05
bazhangkdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list DreamCaster18:06
DreamCasterbazhang it worked thanks :)18:06
Fieldyhello, I installed googleearth-package however i'm not sure what to do from here to actually get it installed. any tips?18:06
bazhangnp :)18:07
DreamCastersorry thati am noob but i just dled the new version and i had to use them really really long18:07
bazhangFieldy, dl'd from where18:07
Fieldybazhang: installed through adept18:07
Fieldyit says it makes a package i then need to install but I don't see where it put it18:08
DreamCasteris it proper to install synaptic in Kubuntu 8.04?18:09
bazhangFieldy, what about alt f2 googleearth-package18:09
bazhangDreamCaster, sure if you wish18:09
climatewarrioryep18:09
Fieldybazhang: no go but i just discovered it installed a binary called make-googleearth-package which is downloading what's needed now (though very slowly)18:10
bazhangFieldy, ah sorry, dont have it and was just guessing18:11
mefisto__googleearth is in medibuntu repos18:11
DreamCasterbaz tip on adding repositories plz18:11
bazhang!medibuntu18:11
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org18:11
Fieldyi'll wait and see what this does, i'm guessing it makes a package that i can install... quite a wait though, 15KB/s download...18:11
bazhangDreamCaster, which repo18:11
Fieldyah, thank you mefisto__ and bazhang18:12
bazhangmedibuntu need to add the repo though iirc18:12
fumanchu182anyone know anything about using an external hdtv over vga @ 1360X768, I can use that as my primary and get that resolution but if i try to do dual screen the highest resolution is my laptop display at 1280x80018:13
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mefisto__you can add medibuntu to repos, or download individual .deb files from their site if preferred (but you won't get automatic updates without the repos)18:14
Fieldyunderstood. thanks. i'm just waiting to see what happens doing it this way, just a very slow download18:16
amerigo!games18:18
ubottuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php18:18
DreamCasterhow do i add medibuntu repos?18:20
DreamCaster<----- linux rookie18:21
bazhangDreamCaster, go to the site and follow the instructions there: www.medibuntu.org18:22
bazhangDreamCaster, you can just copy and paste the commands into the terminal (konsole)18:23
DreamCasterthanks once again :)18:23
DreamCasteri owe you a drink18:23
bazhang:)18:24
DreamCasterbazhang any idea how to install w32codecs? cause sudo apt-get install w32codecs gives me error18:26
bazhangDreamCaster, did you get the repos yet?18:26
DreamCasteryes18:26
bazhangDreamCaster, then first sudo apt-get update18:26
bazhangDreamCaster, now try after doing that18:27
DreamCasterbazhang packet is missing or it is really old18:27
DreamCasterbazhang this is what i get18:28
bazhangDreamCaster, you only want that one file? along with libdvdcss2?18:28
bazhangerr package18:28
DreamCasteryep18:28
bazhangDreamCaster, then scroll to the bottom of the page and look how to install the debs18:30
BluesKaj!medibuntu | DreamCaster18:31
DreamCasterbazhang thanks it is working18:31
ubottuDreamCaster: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org18:31
bazhangDreamCaster, nicely done :)18:32
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AccidusIs there a TeXlive 2008 package on the Adept package manager?18:35
cyberwulfIs there anyone here speaking Indonesian?18:36
bazhang!id18:36
ubottujoin ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia18:36
bazhangcyberwulf, ^^18:36
cyberwulfnyasar18:36
mefisto__Accidus: apt-cache search texlive          or just search in adept if you already have it open18:37
cyberwulfonly three Indonesians here?18:38
AccidusWell, it has texlive, but not the new 2008 (beta) release18:39
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sourcemaker!search home entertainment system18:46
ubottuFound: lsb, xen, alternatives, keyboard, purexfce, rosetta, ext3, fstab, mount-#kubuntu, terminal18:46
bazhang!info mediatomb18:46
ubottumediatomb (source: mediatomb): UPnP MediaServer (main package). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.0-1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 17 kB, installed size 96 kB18:46
Dentharghi18:46
ActionParsniphi all18:46
Dentharganyone here using kde4.1 and have SB Audigy soundcard?18:46
BigBuddhahey guys, for some reason when i am logged into kubuntu now, my fans stay on. They will not turm off, but in vista they run fine. also, my pc will freeze, no response until i manually shut it down.18:46
sourcemaker!search DVD18:47
ubottuFound: aptoncd, libdvdcss, libdvdcss2, dvd, burners, dvdiso, k9copy, torrents, dvd-torrent, dvd-torrent-#kubuntu18:47
sourcemaker!search media player18:47
ubottuFound: shortcuts, music players, pronounce, totem, teg, realplayer, mplayer-fonts, video, audio players, rhythmbox18:47
Dentharg!search audigy18:47
ubottuFound:18:47
bazhangsourcemaker /msg ubottu dvd  and players18:48
ActionParsnipBigBuddha: is it a laptop?18:48
BigBuddhaActionParsnip: no it is a desktop18:48
sourcemakerubottu dvd  and players18:48
ubottusourcemaker: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:48
Denthargbazhang: thx for the tip!18:48
sourcemaker!search dvd  and players18:49
ubottuFound: ops-#xubuntu-offtopic, music players, totem, themes, ge, browsers, eye candy, libdvdcss, tv, flash18:49
bazhangsourcemaker, you need to /msg18:49
ActionParsnipBigBuddha: ok maybe theres a patch for your motherboard or maybe theres some config you need to add18:49
ActionParsnipBigBuddha: is it a store bought system or self built18:49
BigBuddhaActionParsnip: if thats the case i will need a little help if you can?18:49
bazhangsourcemaker, that is not the right command and you should do it in private message; the syntax is /msg ubottu info package18:49
BigBuddhaActionParsnip: it is retail18:50
sourcemakerbazhang:  ok thanks :-)18:50
BigBuddhaActionParsnip: do you want the brand/model?18:50
bazhangsourcemaker, also try /msg ubottu find related term18:50
bazhangDentharg, np :)18:50
ActionParsnipBigBuddha: sure18:50
BigBuddhaActionParsnip: Gateway GT566218:51
miffedI have a script which pops up a passive message box using kdialog, works fine when manually run but if run as a kcron job the script runs and does what it supposed to but the kdialog box does not pop up,19:01
ActionParsnipmiffed: is the script chmodded to executable19:01
miffedyup it executable19:02
ActionParsnipmiffed: is the file owned by you19:02
miffedit runs if I choose manually run in kron and message box pops up but when run as a kron job it does not pop up19:02
miffedyes I own the file19:02
DreamCasteri used this sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion-bcop to install  Compiz fusion any idea how i use it?19:03
ActionParsnip!compiz | DreamCaster19:04
ubottuDreamCaster: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion19:04
mefisto__miffed: the message box is a X window, yes?19:04
DreamCasterty ty19:05
_CrashMaster_I thought KRON was supposed to run in the background, not interacting with the user.19:05
miffedif kdialoge is considered a X window I am not sure19:05
miffedkdialog --title "GREAT" --passivepopup "files synced " 1019:06
miffedpops up a little speech bubble for 10 seconds19:06
mefisto__miffed: try putting this before the command in Kcron: export DISPLAY=:0 &&19:06
mefisto__miffed: also, don't forget to save after making changes in Kcron19:09
miffedmefisto__: in the program section like : export DISPLAY=:0 && /home/test/Documents/scripts/./unisonsync19:14
mefisto__miffed: yes, but what is with the /./  ?? does "/home/test/Documents/scripts/./unisonsync" work as a command with the /./ in there?19:16
DreamCaster!firefox19:17
ubottufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins19:17
miffedwell as unison is a executable i have always ended the path as ./nameofscript19:17
mefisto__miffed: if it works in konsole that way, that's fine. I just thought the extra ./ wouldn't be necessary if you're giving the full path19:19
miffedmefisto__: I have no idea I just got used to doing it that way and not been a problem so far19:20
mefisto__ok19:20
vincenzo_salve19:23
vincenzo_!list19:24
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots19:24
arrrghhhhow can i add a rule in firestarter to allow all lan clients?19:26
ced_hey actionparsnip, long time no see..19:29
ced_brb guys..19:31
miffedmefisto__: thanks, adding export DISPLAY=:0 && did the trick,19:31
miffedmefisto__: could you give me a brief idea why it was failing previously?19:32
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mefisto__miffed: all I know is that if it's a program that needs to be displayed in X, you need the export. the :0 is the default display19:37
mefisto__it really should be a checkbox or something in Kcron's gui19:38
miffedmefisto__: strange then that it showed correctly when run manually but not in the background untill that option was added19:38
ulusoyslm19:38
miffedif I run this in terminal it pops up the box with no need to export>    kdialog --title "Warning" --passivepopup "files not synced " 1019:41
mefisto__miffed: I don't really understand it either. I found out about the export thing by googling, but don't know what the "export" command does19:41
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nickname034hey, how are you?19:42
frlojatem alguem do brazil?19:44
nickname034i'm observing some "crazy movements" into adept ......... when i ask for the installation of mozilla 3, in the screen appears "break (install)" with red colour, instead of "install", any idea ?19:44
ced_maybe you got incompatible extensions?19:44
nickname034and the same trying to install eclipse ........19:44
lee-royhi how can i use this irc client with firefox url links in gnome19:44
lee-roy??19:45
ced_i had that when i tried to install both XMMS1 and 219:45
mefisto__miffed: I think I found out about it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185993  there's a bit of explanation in that thread19:45
ced_so it's probably a incompatability issue.19:45
nickname034oh19:45
nickname034thanks for the info, it's good to see i'm not the unic human with the problem haha19:46
ced_:)19:46
nickname034okey, i'm going to look about, thanks for the info19:46
ced_np, good luck!19:46
nickname034possibly, i will need it ;)19:46
ced_^_^19:46
sinutasting kubuntu and an irc channel for the first time19:47
jpds!hi | sinu19:49
ubottusinu: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!19:49
brmassaguys, i just bought a new HDD. how can i clone the old HDD into this new one. I dont want to plain-copy because all files will get a new created/changed tag.19:49
brmassa?19:49
sinuhi all.. atlast got the dialup modem working in kubuntu19:50
mefisto__brmassa: I think something like: dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb      if sda is the old disk and sdb is the new one19:52
brmassamefisto__: man... i love you! hehe thanks19:52
mefisto__brmassa: check "man dd" first to make sure I got that right19:53
mefisto__brmassa: that will only work if the new disk is larger than the old one19:53
mefisto__or same size19:53
brmassamefisto__: thats the reason i got a new one!19:54
mefisto__brmassa: actually, you might need to do this when the old disk is not mounted.19:54
mefisto__brmassa: so if you're running from the old one now, you could do it from livecd19:55
brmassamefisto__: hmmm ok.19:55
brmassamefisto__: the new one should be formated before?19:55
mefisto__brmassa: if you use the dd command, everything will be copied, all partitions, files, everything19:56
mastereduHello19:56
mastereducan anyone say me how can i update kde 4.0 to 4.1 with konsole19:57
brmassamefisto__: so 1* it will overwrite any data from the "of" 2* i will need to resize the partition later?19:57
brmassamefisto__: right?19:57
mastereducan anyone help me?19:58
mefisto__brmassa: yes, or you could create new partitions in the unused space instead of growing the partitions you have19:59
brmassamefisto__: why? is there an advantage on multi-small partitions over a single-big one?20:00
brmassamefisto__: real figures are: old HD: 40gb, new HDD = 160gb (i dont know if matters)20:01
brokenmasteredu: I imagine all you need to do is add the 4.1 repo and dist-upgrade20:02
mefisto__brmassa: first, linux normally uses more than one partition. it's common to have a separate partition for /home, to hold program settings and kde config, and your own data. That way when you need to reinstall or upgrade, your data and settings stay safe on their own partition20:03
brokenupdate first XD20:03
mastereduhm20:03
mastereduok20:03
mastereduoh it says 65 packes are avaible20:04
mastereduyou think this is kde 4.1?20:04
mastereduits 144 mb big20:04
brokenProbably, if you've added the repo on the website.20:04
masteredu"avaible"20:04
mastereduhm20:04
brmassamefisto__: yes yes. but these HDD are the data ones. the linux programs are in another one.20:04
mastereduwhy all use gnome20:04
masteredumaybe becouse it is stable?20:04
mefisto__brmassa: ok, then one big partition if you want. you might want other partitions if you want eg FAT32 filesystem for compatibility with other OS20:07
brmassamefisto__: i see. well... its time for some work. again, thanks20:08
aswinhi in the add widget screen i dont find the widget i downloaded from the kdelook20:10
aswincan someone help me out20:10
mefisto__aswin: kde4?20:11
aswinyes mefisto20:11
aswinkde 420:12
Pliskinuse knewstuff20:12
mefisto__I was wondering that too. have you tried in #kubuntu-kde4 ?20:12
aswinok thanks20:12
miffedIf I right click copy a file or folder then close the window I copied it from, (dolphin or konquoror) then when try to right click paste onto desktop or anywhere else for that matter it does not work, only when I keep the window open I copied from will it paste, is this a feature or a bug ?20:13
miffedmefisto__: thanx for link it clarifies earlier my issue20:14
strageewhat's the best way to install themes these days?20:14
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strageei can't seem to find a way to install dekorator, and there doesn't seem to be a way to import kde themes natively20:16
mefisto__miffed: np. and I just tried to copy from dolphin, closed dolphin, pasted on desktop. it works fine for me20:16
miffedhmm I have the same problem with my desktop and laptop,20:18
senorpedrohi folks20:18
strageeseems like kubuntu is twice as hard to theme as ubuntu20:18
senorpedroi installed kde4 but it is very slow20:18
senorpedroi heard that there are issues when using nvidia cards20:19
senorpedrodoes anybody know how i can make kde4 fast even though using a nvidia card?20:19
senorpedroand yes, i would like to have desktop effects enabled20:19
miffedstragee: dont know if this is what your after but in control centre/appearance and themes/theme manager and options to get new themes add etc20:20
strageemiffed: is that under appearance in system settings?20:21
senorpedro!kde4 nvidia20:21
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kde4 nvidia20:21
miffedyup in system settings appearence and themes20:21
strageemiffed: yeh i'm in appearance, then i goto window decorations, but don't see any way to import20:22
strageeor i tried style too20:22
stragee"icons" seems to be the only place that allows me to import20:22
miffedyou using the theme manager it has import there for styles etc20:23
strageemiffed: does theme manager come with kubuntu by default?20:23
senorpedrohow can i determine the exact name of the graphic card in my computer?20:24
senorpedrowithout opening the case20:24
Pliskinlspci20:25
Pliskinor KInfoCenter ?20:25
strageemiffed: i don't think i'm using theme manager, how do i use that?20:25
emonshi guys is there anybody with good network skills?20:26
juandiegohey20:27
emonsnobody?20:28
strageewhat are you trying to do emons?20:28
juandiegoi'd like to ask if anyone can provide some help about the infamous broadcom wifi20:28
emonshi stragee20:29
Pliskinjuandiego : there is a package20:29
emonsthe thing is my high speed internet connection its going slower than ever, i already tried with ipv6 and stuff but nothing changed20:29
Pliskinbcm43xx-fwcutter, it works for some cards20:30
juandiegoi've followed many tutorials, but something goes wrong every time, im not the smartest kubuntu user you know20:30
xp.20:30
strageeemons: what type of connection do you have, and are you connect via hardline or wifi20:30
juandiegook i'll look into that20:31
emonsfew days ago Agent_bob was helping me analyzing my connection files (he told me to run some commands in a terminal and pastebin the results which i did) in the end i seem to have some prob with my connection but dunno what, he had to go and me either so we didn't finish it20:31
emonsalright i have an adsl high speed and connected via wifi20:31
emonsthere's a hag connected to a modem and the modem is connected to a wifi router which is 5 metres away from my airport20:32
juandiegobut actually my knetwork manager already detects some of the wifi connections20:32
juandiegoits just that it never makes a succesful connection with any of them20:32
strageeemons: do you have the option to test it using a ethernet cable?20:32
emons(weirdly it says i only have 50 % reception which is impossible first because its too close second because on xp was going superfast and the reception was always 100%)20:33
strageeemons: it sounds like the driver you are using for your wifi card is generic20:34
emonsthe weird thing that they made me notice is that when i first install kubuntu hardy it set everything by itself i didnt set anything i was only able to get connected automatically without setting anything20:34
emonsyes i think so stragee20:34
strageeyou may try searching for an alternative driver, also play with different encryption methods20:34
strageeif you get 100% speed with no encryption, then you know it's a driver problem20:35
emonsi have no encryption, not even a wap or wep nothing20:36
emonsim a newbie here and i dunno how to set anything :D20:36
snarksteremons what did you change?20:37
emonsnothing20:37
emonshere's the thing20:37
snarksteremons when did you notice a slow down?20:37
emonsi didnt touch it20:37
emonslike one week ago20:37
emonsand during this time i only installed some plugins20:37
snarksterwell something had to have changed somewhere for it to dramatically change like that.20:37
KDeskwith one is better in kde, mplayer or xine?20:37
emonsu no like flash, java20:37
strageei'll let snarkster take over ;) i've gotta restart X20:37
strageeg'luck emons20:38
emonsalright stragee20:38
emonsthank u20:38
emons;)20:38
snarksterstragee I didnt want to intrude.. lol20:38
emons-_-20:38
emonslol20:38
snarksterok so you are useing knetwork manager>20:38
emonsyes20:38
snarksterok I use a belkin usb wireless G that I bought at walmart for 36 bucks.. worked right out of the box with no tweaking20:39
ced_:O lucky bastard20:39
ced_*guy20:39
emonsivegot a lynksys20:39
snarksterI use gnomes network manager as knetwork manager has some vpn issues,20:39
snarksterYah I had a netgear pcmcia that had to use ndiswrapper and one day it just stopped working for no reason20:40
snarksteractually it locked up the laptop20:40
snarksteryou have no security what so ever on your wifi20:41
ced_weird, well windows drivers in linux are mostly bugged so its not a surprise...20:41
SAngeliI have to migrate from kmail (Linux - kubuntu) to Windows Vista, mail application. Can someone please advice me how to move my kmail emails into Vista mail?20:41
snarksterSAngeli: Youll have to do a google search for that.. I dont think there are many vista users in here20:41
emonsivegot no security now cuz i thought that might be the prob so i took it away20:41
SAngelisnarkster, thank you. Could you please advice some valid key words?20:42
snarksteremons ok and what is your current speed?20:42
snarksterSAngeli: migrate kmail to vista20:42
SAngelithank you20:42
snarksterwelcome20:42
snarksteremons what is your current speed??20:43
emons240020:43
emonstested on a speedometer20:43
snarksterdo you have a cordless phone, microwave, tesla coil between you and the wifi access point?20:43
ced_brb, gotta reinstall the network here (arg i hate those old sitecom routers -.-'') cya guys..20:43
emonsnope20:44
emonsno phones in the house20:44
snarksteranything that gives off any kind of radiation will effect a wifi connection20:44
Pliskinjuandiego : so your card is already recognised20:44
emonsnothing20:44
snarksterwhere is your cell phone?20:44
mefisto__I hate when I forget to turn off my tesla coil and fall asleep20:45
snarksterand you are currently connected via wifi with 50% strength20:45
snarkstermefisto: yah me to.. keeps the damn lights on then i wake up with a headache20:45
emonsmy cellphone is here20:46
snarksterok well that thing gives off tons of microwaves.  so be sure to keep it out of the line of sight of the router.20:47
emonsand im currently connected with 50%20:47
snarksterare you noticing any slow downs?? transfer rates are slow or something?20:48
emonseverything is slow though20:48
snarksteris this a G wifi or a B/G wifi device20:48
emonslook, i just pinged www.google.it and look my statistics20:48
emons29 packets transmitted, 15 received, 48% packet loss, time 64247ms20:48
emonsrtt min/avg/max/mdev = 37.005/102.662/861.818/203.020 ms20:48
emons48% loss its allot isnt it?20:48
snarksterok well dont get snippy with me Im trying to assist you. L)20:49
snarksteroh yes but thats packet dropping20:49
snarkstercould be that your router is chirping or you network card is chirping.20:49
snarksterchattering i mean..20:49
snarksterif you boot into XP right now youll hit 100%20:50
KDeskI have a problem, in Firefox when I download a zip file, and will open it, firefox opens okular, how can I fix  this?20:50
snarksterwow.. I dont get it.. are you using ndiswrapper?20:50
juandiegoPliskin: I guess somethings working, but still i cannot connect20:51
mefisto__KDesk: in firefox preferences, applications, search for "zip" and choose what action you want20:52
KDeskmefisto__: but that dialog is empty... :(20:52
emonsno sorry snarkster i didnt mean it, of course i appreciate ur help20:53
snarksteri know you do.. its cool.20:53
snarksterif yo move closer to the router does it get stronger?20:53
KDeskim also using mozplugger, but without mozplugger i got the same behavior.20:54
mefisto__KDesk: there is a solution for the empty applications list. I just don't remember what it is20:55
emonsthe thing is its a desktop i cant move it at all its in a desk in a shelfed piece of furniture20:56
KDeskmefisto__: oh :D I will ask google, is this a common issue in kde or with the linux build in genereal?20:56
mefisto__KDesk: try installing firefox-gnome-support20:57
KDeskmefisto__:  firefox-gnome-support in kde?20:57
mefisto__KDesk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/22050420:58
snarksteroh i thought you were using a laptop.. im sorry..20:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 220504 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox doesn't know what apps to use to open any type of downloaded files (dup-of: 209607)" [Undecided,New]20:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 209607 in firefox-3.0 "Open file with external application broken" [Medium,Fix released]20:58
snarksteremons dude I got nothing more.. it shouldnt do that thats for sure..20:59
snarksterare you sure you didnt update soemthing??20:59
emonseverytime it says it has something to update i let it do it21:00
emonsis that wrong?21:00
snarksteroh no21:00
snarksterbut that might be were your problem came from..21:01
snarksteryou updated and it changed how the nm works21:01
emonshey snarkster i just pinged my router and thats what i found21:02
emons91 packets transmitted, 43 received, 52% packet loss, time 90034ms21:02
emonsrtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.850/3.844/25.098/5.927 ms21:02
emons52% of the packets its lost, that means ivegot a wifi prob aint i?21:02
timohi all, does anyone know where I can download a keyboard driver for my laptop?21:03
timothe volume keys are not working properly (a single press is processed as a double press)21:04
timorunning KDE 4.121:04
timothe laptop is an Asus21:05
snarksteremons yup thats what it means.21:05
snarkstersorry emons I can do no more.. as it doesnt make sense as to what the problem is.21:06
emonssorry? what u mean?21:07
KDeskmefisto__: it is a bug in firefox https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40919221:11
ubottuMozilla bug 409192 in Preferences "Applications prefpane is broken if shell service isn't available at runtime (Applications preferences dialogue is empty, no way to add applications)" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]21:11
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alinonfor some reason the kdm theme manager isn't working with hardy - anyone know of a fix?21:12
timomy laptop keyboard interprets a single press on the mute button as two presses... any ideas how I can fix this?21:15
timoalinon: you can just edit the configuration file yourself...21:16
timoalinon: thats what I did21:16
alinontimo: you mean usetheme=true and theme=/usr etc21:17
timoalinon: what exactly do you want to change?21:17
alinontimo: i'm wanting to use the theme i picked up from kde-look.org21:18
timoalinon: ah, i se21:18
alinoni'm wondering if cssm or emerald is conflicting with it21:19
alinontimo: when i first started i was going to use a compiz theme, and it worked for a while, now it's not working and neither is kdm theme manager heh21:20
timoalinon: does it give an error or anything?21:20
timoalinon: what does it say when you install a new theme?21:21
alinontimo: not at all, the themes just don't get applied even after i hit the "apply" button...i've also tried restarting X but still no joy21:21
alinonit acts as though the theme is being used, but visually i see no difference21:21
timoalinon: ok. perhaps you should try editing the configuration file yourself then?21:22
alinontimo: where is the config file located? i think i may have tried this already21:22
timoalinon: check /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc21:23
alinonyeh, that's the one21:23
alinontimo: i changed it so that "usetheme=true" is active21:24
mefisto__what type of theme are we talking about? kdm is the login screen you see before login21:24
timoalinon: perhaps this one then: ?21:24
timonano /etc/default/kdm.d/20_kubuntu_default_settings21:24
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alinonmefisto: i didn't realize it only effected the login, but either way it login hasn't changed either heh21:25
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timoalinon: what does the default setting file say?21:25
alinontimo: i changed it to Theme=/usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/true-nature21:26
alinonand it's set to kdm in the config file21:26
timoalinon: and I presume you've set "UseTheme=true" and "Theme=/usr/share/apps/...../true-nature" also in the kdmrc?21:27
alinontimo: yep yep21:27
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Guest2638is there any chance of this chat to go to IRCd?21:28
timoalinon: then I'm afraid I can't help you either... that's all I know21:28
alinontimo: well aside from the login theme, what the best way in kubuntu to change the window theme?21:29
alinoni heard dekorator is still the best?21:29
timoalinon: I'd use emerald21:29
alinonblah, i'm trying to use emerald heh21:29
timoalinon: but I'm not familiar with dekorator...21:30
alinoni have the compiz fusion icon, but it doesn't seem to be helping21:30
timoalinon: is compiz fusion working?21:30
timoalinon: the desktop cube and all?21:30
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alinontimo: i can set the desktop effects to extra, but when i select an emerald theme nothing happens21:31
alinontimo: it was working when i first set this up21:32
timoalinon: perhaps you should start over then21:32
timoalinon: and carefully write down every step along the way21:33
alinontimo: i used to know a command, like replace --compiz or something21:33
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timoalinon: hopefully you won't end up the same way then21:33
timoalinon: yep, that's the one21:33
mizipzori get the error "configure.in:8: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PROG_LIBTOOL If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. See the Autoconf documentation." in kdevelop... any ideas on how to solve it?21:33
Guest2638!compiz21:33
ubottuKubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness from KMenu -> System -> Desktop Effects - further help in #compiz-fusion21:33
alinonhah it's saying i need mysql to perform that operation21:34
alinonabout the only difference that i've found that i like with kubuntu over ubuntu is that there is a way to increase the scroll wheel mouse amount in the mouse settings21:35
alinonas far as i know ubuntu don't have that option yet hehe21:36
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alinonoh and i really like kopete, i wish ubuntu had it21:38
alinonheck i wish kopete was on windows haha21:38
Idrogenohow can you like kopete more than pidgin?21:40
alinonthe window theme is there by default21:40
alinonwhatever they call it, like adium21:40
alinonchat window styles, are the win21:42
alinoni just wish i could figure out why my compiz themes aren't working - i hate to have to reinstall21:43
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Guest2638ask in #compiz-fusion21:44
kaminixThe new Konversation seems to be out, any plans to include it or will it be included with the next KDE 3 release?21:44
alinoni guess i will21:44
alinonthanks guest21:44
Guest2638np21:44
juandiegomy wifi Broadcom 43xx isdetected but I still can not get a connection as every time I try to do it asks for the password and then goes up to 58% completed or 'configuring IP', and thats it, any ideas?21:50
mizipzoris there a channel for kdevelep?21:50
mizipzorkdevelop*21:50
Idrogeno#kdevelop ...21:50
mizipzoroh... to obvious i guess21:50
mizipzorif i have installed physfs library, is there anyway to find out where the actual library file is?22:11
mizipzorwhereis physfs tells me where the header is22:11
rabiddachshundI can't get any movies to play past the copyright notice22:11
rabiddachshundKaffeine is the only player that even goes that far. Mplayer, Codeine and VLC won't even read the disks. What could be going on?22:12
Machtinhi guys!22:17
mizipzorMachtin: hi22:18
Machtincould someone tell me how to get quicklaunch icons to kde 4.1?22:19
anom01yhow  do I convert wma to mp3 files ?22:28
anom01ylots of them ?22:28
zabbadapprabiddachshund: do you have libdvdcss? http://www.medibuntu.org/packages.php22:28
neofaxI cannot connect one folder in SAMBA.  I always get permission denied and nothing in my log files.22:29
evgenyhi whats the command to install compiz?22:30
rabiddachshundzabbadapp: probably not. I'm checking that link you sent and the error that it's giving in the OP is the error that I'm getting22:33
Machtinnoone? :<22:33
dobermannHi all22:34
dobermannбля тут Русские есть?22:34
rabiddachshundzabbadapp: edit: I had a different tab open and confused myself.22:35
fanelhow could I get sound on my alpto22:35
fanellaptop22:35
fanelany experts here22:35
zabbadapprabiddachshund: well, you can add medibuntus repos and install what you need, as described on that page22:35
climatewarrior_whose running kde 4.1 here?22:35
fanelin configuring sound>?22:35
climatewarrior_are you liking it so far?22:35
sluckzme22:36
sluckz4.1 is the reason i put linux back on my laptop.22:36
climatewarrior_it looks preety prosmising. if it keeps this momentum it might actually beat mac in usabilty22:37
climatewarrior_not anytime soon22:37
climatewarrior_but one of this days22:37
climatewarrior_these22:37
rabiddachshundsluckz: does kubuntu use kde 4.1?22:37
sluckzthe community remix22:37
sluckzand you can install next to 3.x22:38
sluckzwell actually yes.  but the community remix defaults to 4.122:39
sluckzsorry 4.0.xx somethin22:39
dobermannвы че все тут ебнутые что ли буржуи???22:45
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juandiegomy wifi Broadcom 43xx is detected by knetwork manager but I still can not get a connection as every time I try to do it asks for the password and then goes up to 58% or 'configuring IP', and then it just says tha connection failed and nothing else, any ideas?22:54
sluckzi went through that yesterday22:55
sluckzpain in the but.22:56
juandiegoany painkiller you can recommend?22:56
fanelwho konws a thing or two about configuring sound in ubuntu 8.04?22:57
sluckzwell.  i followed the directions from http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and that worked the best for me22:57
sluckzthats only as far as speed and stability though22:57
sluckzi did notice some dhcp issues when trying the different b*fwcutter stuff22:58
mizipzorits a little quiet in #kdevelop, so i ask here... when compiling and running a console program, is there anyway to get a window to see what the program actually prints? without actually starting it through konsole or something i mean22:58
juandiegowhats dhcp issue?23:06
juandiego:)23:07
sluckzlike yours hanging aroung 50-70% waiting for dhcp23:09
oakboxHi all, I have a couple of different email addresses and I would like to access them all from one place but need to access them from both my desktop and laptop when im away from home.  I have a small box i use as a server and was wondering if there was a way of using that box to recieve all my emails from different accounts and then somehow connecting to my server to check all my emails at the same time where ever i am.23:15
oakboxHope that makes sense, must have been done before can someone point me in the right direction?23:15
sluckza simple way is to forward copys to gmail from each account.23:19
sluckzhave you looked at fetchmail?23:19
oakboxhi havent looked at anything apart from a tutorail on setting up a mail server but that seems too much for what i need.  I will have a look though :)23:20
sluckzwhat do you use now?23:20
oakboxWell i have been using KMail to check emails but it doesnt work if i need the emails on desktop and away from home23:22
oakboxalso cant check my hotmail through hotmail?23:22
sluckzwell hotmail pretty much puposely keeps you from moving your mail to suite your needs23:23
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oakboxtrue :)23:24
sluckzwell for me i use NX to remote home in linux or remote desktop for windows23:24
sluckzmost other solutions seem so overkill for my personal stuff although i like them.  scalix comes to mind.23:25
oakboxcool thanks for that i will have a read23:26
denisy wae23:28
appletreehi2all23:29
oakboxhi appletree23:37
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appletreehi oakbox23:41
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mizaelthere is someone?23:51
maltaethironHey, a friend told me about a website where you could build custom repositories, anybody happen to know the site?  or one similar?23:57

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