[00:00] <engineer> /dev/mapper/system-HOME /home reiserfs defaults,noatime 0 2
[00:00] <engineer> replace accordingly to your system
[00:01] <mortici> hmmmmm
[00:01] <mortici> i have something similar and i can't write to the mount point as a regular user....
[00:01] <arrrghhh> so if the nvidia binary breaks X, and the restricted drivers manager breaks X, what do i do?  previously I used the nvidia binary, and it worked like a charm.  i backed up my xorg.conf, and upon reinstating that file X still broke.  I don't get it, this config worked perfectly fine before on the exact same system
[00:02] <arrrghhh> mortici, who 'owns' the mount?
[00:02] <arrrghhh> ls -l
[00:02] <engineer> you gotta allow it
[00:02] <mortici> drwxr-xr-x  4 root root   80 2008-08-08 22:42 miscdata
[00:02] <engineer> chmod 777
[00:03] <mortici> weird my other dir which is mounted as ntfs-3g in fstab automatically is set to allow users to mount it...
[00:04] <mortici> when i run sudo mount -a it overrides my chmod....
[00:10] <benjamin> how do i change a disks mount point?
[00:11] <Clenfil> hi all
[00:11] <Clenfil> tem alguma gatinha nesse canal
[00:11] <arrrghhh> benjamin, well you can unmount with "umount" and re-mount with "mount" - or edit fstab to make the change permanent
[00:11] <arrrghhh> !es | Clenfil
[00:12] <yao_ziyua1> I AM VERY CONCERNED THAT ADEPT_MANAGER DOES NOT WARN ME ABOUT UNSIGNED PACKAGES
[00:12] <arrrghhh> yao_ziyua1, ok, can you turn the caps lock off please?
[00:12] <yao_ziyua1> ok
[00:12] <arrrghhh> thank you.
[00:12] <arrrghhh> why do you think this is true?
[00:13] <mortici> how can i tell the type of FS a /dev/xxx is?
[00:14] <engineer> fdisk
[00:14] <genii> mortici: sudo fdisk -l     will usually give a clue by the partition type
[00:16] <mortici> i don't get why my second resierfs partition doesn't mount so other users can browse it
[00:16] <mortici> only root can write to it :(
[00:20] <arrrghhh> mortici, i asked you to see who "owns" the drive with ls -l
[00:23] <mortici> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 254,  2 2008-08-08 22:54 isw_dhaigagjhg_SuperNova2
[00:29] <mortici> can anyone help me out? I want to mount a secondary ReiserFS partition to i have read write access to it but as of right now its only RO and ROOT only is there away for me to mount it in fstab to be RW
[00:29] <mortici> here is the pastebin of my fstab
[00:29] <mortici> http://pastebin.com/m10c6e02a
[00:32] <ubuntu> hello
[00:32] <mortici> here is a pastebin with the fstab and after mounting with sudo mount -a
[00:32] <mortici> http://pastebin.com/m38a952db
[00:32] <Nutzebahn> Hello. Has anyone in here ever had problems with KDE 4 logging out right after starting?
[00:32] <mortici> and output of ls -al /media
[00:38] <juver> ciao tutti
[00:46] <eross> trying to play some mp3's from a local fileserver but it says URL is not supported or possible network failure - using amarok.. anyone know why or how to fix it?
[00:51] <Dr_willis> eross,  i normally just mount remote shares locally - so they appear as a local directory. That seems to solve a lot of issues.
[00:56] <ubuntu> Can the /boot partition be shared with another linux system, i.e. sda1 - /boot, sda2 - "/" of kubuntu and sda3 - "/" of ubuntu?
[00:57] <benjamin> does anyone know of a gui app that will let me reformat a drive as ext3 using either xp or kubuntu?
[00:59] <Daisuke-Laptop> benjamin: gparted
[01:00] <bomber> be vewy very careful
[01:00] <Daisuke-Laptop> most definitely
[01:00] <benjamin> the drive is empty, i've already pulled everything off of it
[01:01] <benjamin> i want to completely eliminate partition and replace it with an ext3 one
[01:02] <Daisuke-Laptop> yeah, the usual warnings apply, tread carefully, double-check to be sure it's the right drive, but yeah, you should be fine with gparted
[01:02] <bomber> real nice utility... prolly not installed by default
[01:02] <benjamin> no, it wasn't
[01:03] <benjamin> wait, will it be able to reformat a drive that isn't mounted?
[01:03] <bomber> yes indeed
[01:04] <benjamin> good
[01:04] <Daisuke-Laptop> benjamin: in fact, it can't format it if it *is* mounted :)
[01:06] <mortici> woot i got virtualbox running :D
[01:12] <yao_ziyua1> if i run synaptic without kdesu or gksu, it uses the current kde theme; if with kdesu/gksu, it uses an ugly Motif theme. how do i make it use the kde theme as root?
[01:15] <Daisuke-Laptop> deal with it because it's only used infrequently?
[01:16] <Daisuke-Laptop> i'm actually not sure, unless you were to launch system settings with kdesu and change it that way (and i don't even know if that would work) - besides, it's good for there to be a difference, a visual cue that reminds you if an app is running as a superuser can only be a good thing.
[01:18] <yao_ziyua1> can anyone tell me where to download ksynaptic?
[01:18] <yao_ziyua1> !ksynaptic
[01:28] <Pliskin> there is no kynaptic anymore
[01:28] <Pliskin> use adept
[02:06] <Nutzebahn> Hello. Has anyone in here ever had problems with KDE 4 logging out right after starting?
[02:25] <brmassa> guys, i just bought a new MB+SATA2 kit but kubuntu CD is not detecting the new hard drive. only detects the old IDE. what should i do?
[02:25] <Guest22966> <---ubuntu noob, woot :)
[02:31] <ncfi1013_> can anybody tell me how to get amarok to recognize my 3rd gen ipod?
[02:32] <ns8> #kubuntu-es
[02:34] <ncfi1013_> can anybody tell me how to get amarok to recognize my 3rd gen ipod?
[02:46] <rodolfo> #ubuntu-ar
[02:52] <mefisto__> I'm wondering if ubuntu linux has better support for AMD or Intel CPUs. Which has better support for virtualization, for example? Will I notice a difference in performance?
[02:55] <arrrghhh> so when the hardware drivers manager fails to install the nvidia stuff properly (it breaks X), what do i do?  i've used the binaries from nvidia's website, but the same result
[02:55] <Dragnslcr> mefisto__- I doubt you'd notice any performance difference because of Ubuntu
[02:55] <arrrghhh> what i don't get is my xorg.conf that was working on this exact same setup no longer works.
[02:56] <Dragnslcr> As for virtualization, I think current processors from both companies (Athlon X2, Core 2 Duo) support it equally well
[02:58] <mefisto__> arrrghhh: when you say "same setup" does that mean same hardware? or your linux install is the same?
[02:58] <arrrghhh> mefisto__, same everything.  kubuntu 8.04.1, exact same hardware.
[02:59] <arrrghhh> it's the same machine.  i installed intrepid and of course it screwed up a lotta things.  so i reinstalled.
[02:59] <arrrghhh> saved my xorg.conf, and i tried to reinstall the nvidia drivers like i did before but it hasn't worked yet.  X always breaks.
[03:00] <mefisto__> arrrghhh: does X give an error message? or just a blank black screen?
[03:00] <arrrghhh> mefisto__, it blinks from the console login to a black screen
[03:01] <arrrghhh> back and forth, until i just kill it and blast out the xorg.conf file.  i'm assuming the newly created xorg uses vesa.
[03:01] <arrrghhh> hello mr willis
[03:02] <Dr_willis_> Moo!
[03:02] <Dr_willis_> :)
[03:02] <arrrghhh> lol
[03:02] <mefisto__> arrrghhh: could you possibly have other vid drivers installed. I had that problem after swapping an ati card with a nvidia card, then went back to the original ati card and no X
[03:02] <arrrghhh> mefisto__, i've had a lot of inconsistencies with X
[03:03] <mefisto__> arrrghhh: all I had to do was uninstall the nvidia driver to fix it
[03:03] <arrrghhh> mefisto__, i've never swapped the video card in this machine.  no hardware was touched, and my X was working beautifully with both monitors (configured thru nvidia-settings) and i figured reinstating my old working xorg would be a piece of cake and it would just drop right in
[03:03] <arrrghhh> mefisto__, like remove the nvidia-glx package?
[03:04] <arrrghhh> i've also tried to use the binaries from the nvidia website (which worked for me in the past on feisty)
[03:05] <mefisto__> arrrghhh: yes, that's what I did. Maybe you could try a purge removal and reinstall with the Hardware Drivers tool in kmenu
[03:06] <mefisto__> arrrghhh: does the livecd start X?
[03:07] <arrrghhh> mefisto__, yes, using vesa.
[03:07] <arrrghhh> i'm using the vesa driver right now in fact
[03:08] <mefisto__> do the nvidia drivers still support your card?
[03:08] <arrrghhh> they say they do
[03:08] <arrrghhh> just says "geforce 8 series cards"
[03:09] <arrrghhh> i have an 8600gt
[03:09] <arrrghhh> keep in mind this was working perfectly just the other day before i decided to upgrade to intrepid lol
[03:10] <mefisto__> arrrghhh: is your card listed when you do: apt-cache show nvidia-glx-legacy    ?
[03:11] <arrrghhh> lemme see
[03:11] <mot_> what's the difference between 'suspend' and 'hibernate' in kde 3.5.9?
[03:12] <Dr_willis_> I imagine one  is 'suspend to ram' other is 'suspend to disk'
[03:12] <arrrghhh> well suspend is just supposed to put the computer in a low-power state
[03:12] <arrrghhh> and the hibernate actually turns it off, saving your ram to hdd
[03:12] <arrrghhh> like mr willis said
[03:12] <mot_> well what would the benefits of each be?
[03:13] <Dr_willis_> of course i never USE either of the features.
[03:13] <Dr_willis_> :)
[03:13] <Dr_willis_> one uses no battery.. other does
[03:13] <arrrghhh> uhm well suspend it boots up quicker
[03:13] <mot_> hmm
[03:13] <arrrghhh> hibernate uses no battery
[03:13] <mot_> i've never used either
[03:13] <Dr_willis_> I dont even use the features under windows.
[03:13] <mot_> well let me test it out brb
[03:13] <arrrghhh> i used them when i was in skewl
[03:13] <Dr_willis_> They have 'issues'  too much
[03:13] <arrrghhh> and the funny thing is i never had any issues with it
[03:13] <Dr_willis_> and i can boot up my linux laptop in like 20-30 sec.. or less
[03:14] <arrrghhh> i've only done it with 1 laptop tho
[03:14] <Dr_willis_> plug/unplug/remove/add a lot of hardware.. :) and it can cause issues.
[03:14] <arrrghhh> what do you do to speed boot up?
[03:14] <arrrghhh> i saw a thing in the gentoo forums where guys were loading their /etc /usr etc folders into ram persistently.
[03:14] <Dr_willis_> Not a lot.. the default ubuntu/kubuntu is just quick on th elaptop
[03:14] <Dr_willis_> gentoo users tend to waste a lot of time to save a little time.
[03:14] <Dr_willis_> :)
[03:15] <arrrghhh> i couldn't figure out how to translate it to ubuntu
[03:15] <arrrghhh> yea they do that
[03:15] <arrrghhh> but i really wanted to load firefox persistently into ram
[03:15] <mot_> hmmm
[03:15] <mot_> suspend works great.
[03:15] <arrrghhh> so even if it's closed, i can still call on it quickly
[03:15] <mot_> bbl sleep
[03:15] <Dr_willis_> I just never close it. :)
[03:15] <arrrghhh> or i should say run firefox exclusively from ram
[03:15] <Dr_willis_> if you loaded it, thenc losed it.. it should still be in ram when you start it again.
[03:15] <Dr_willis_> unless somting caused the cache to clear out i guess
[03:15] <arrrghhh> not necessairly loaded it permanently into ram
[03:16] <arrrghhh> yessir you are correct it does load it into ram if i close and reopen quickly
[03:16] <arrrghhh> but if i close, do a buncha stuff and reopen... not so much.
[03:16] <arrrghhh> i found this firefox-qs package that helped... just a firefox icon in the systray
[03:17] <arrrghhh> and sometimes it seemed to load quicker, like right after inital boot
[03:17] <arrrghhh> but other times it seemed slower, so i dunno
[03:18] <Dr_willis_> sounds like a lot of worrying about nothing. :)
[03:18] <arrrghhh> mefisto__, i never answered your question.  my card is not explicitly listed, but no cards are really.  it lists "geforce" as a model, and there's a whole lotta cards that fall under that classification.
[03:18] <arrrghhh> eh i like making things quick and efficient.  maybe i take it a little too far :P
[03:18] <Dr_willis_> FF takes 7 secs to load here..
[03:19] <mefisto__> arrrghhh: where did you find the firefox-qs package?
[03:20] <arrrghhh> it's not in the repo's
[03:20] <arrrghhh> @ kde-apps.org
[03:21] <arrrghhh> it's takin a while to load... http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kde-apps.org%2Fcontent%2Fshow.php%2FFirefox%2BQuickstarter%3Fcontent%3D31014&ei=6P6cSLHFJYnOtQOWstniAw&usg=AFQjCNFkgjI21W61ZJNmWHZDYvEHoX0IFQ&sig2=UEZeTmZC71G-fyW5ps1-OA
[03:21] <arrrghhh> erm www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Firefox+Quickstarter?content=31014
[03:24] <arrrghhh> alright i'm gonna try to restart X
[03:31] <umass> hello?
[03:33] <arrrghhh> ok so i just saw one of the craziest things
[03:33] <arrrghhh> and i've seen it before
[03:34] <mefisto__> good crazy or bad crazy?
[03:34] <arrrghhh> uhm bad
[03:34] <arrrghhh> i have a video
[03:34] <arrrghhh> just need to u/l it 1 sec
[03:39] <arrrghhh> https://www.yousendit.com/download/Q01ITGszQVN6NE0wTVE9PQ
[03:39] <arrrghhh> check out that Dr_willis mefisto__ tell me if you've ever seen that...
[03:40] <arrrghhh> i went to the k-menu clicked log out and restart, and that was the screen i was met with.
[03:40] <Dr_willis_> Video driver glitz
[03:41] <arrrghhh> schweet
[03:41] <Dr_willis_> i see that often with ati video cards over the years
[03:41] <arrrghhh> i purged all the nvidia stuff
[03:41] <Dr_willis_> some times the console/framebuffer has issues wiht the X video drivers
[03:41] <arrrghhh> and installed nvidia-glx nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig.  i went to logout to restart the x server and yea
[03:41] <Dr_willis_> and may not reset the console properly and so forth
[03:41] <arrrghhh> sweet
[03:41] <arrrghhh> i love linux, but there have been a lot of strange crashes
[03:42] <Dr_willis_> compared to the strangeness i have in windows.. i will stick with linux
[03:42] <arrrghhh> it's real stable... but if there's just something slightly wrong some of the strangest stuff happens lol
[03:42] <arrrghhh> and yea, forget windows
[03:42] <Dr_willis_> I would say 90% of it - is video drivers.
[03:43] <arrrghhh> i have to fix those pos's all the time, i hate their uninstall/install method of software.  it's getting so buggy, ccleaner's uninstaller system works better than the built-in windows crap.
[03:44] <arrrghhh> ah well.  i'm thinking it might've been that install.
[03:44] <arrrghhh> i was installing it from my flash drive which has a kubuntu persistent install on it.
[03:44] <arrrghhh> i followed instructions from pendrivelinux.com, they made it real easy but it caused some problems
[03:45] <arrrghhh> i'm reinstalling again from my ubuntu 8.04 cd.  hopefully that works lol
[03:48] <intreq> hay
[03:49] <intreq> any one here knows any rpg games that can be compatable with kubuntu?
[03:49] <letalis> depends native or emulated?
[03:49] <intreq> some thing like lastchaos
[03:49] <intreq> i googled some games fo linux, and i found urban terror, and is good, but i like rpg better
[03:50] <Dr_willis_> theres dozens^2  of games out there.. depends on exactly waht you want
[03:50] <Dr_willis_> No idea what 'lastchaos' is never heard of it.
[03:51] <mefisto__> intreq: I came across this yesterday: http://rangit.com/software/top-8-linux-games-of-2007/   might be something there you will like
[03:51] <letalis> theres a plethora of things that will run under wine as well
[03:51] <intreq> thanks man, i will really look into it
[03:52] <intreq> oooo , i tried wine
[03:52] <intreq> and is screwed up
[03:52] <letalis> i have both fallouts and divine divinity on this box.
[03:52] <Dr_willis_> DOSbox and the old dos games are fun alwo
[03:52] <Dr_willis_> with wine  - it depends a lot on the exact game.
[03:52] <letalis> and i had oblivion running but it has some issues.
[03:52] <letalis> :P
[03:52] <letalis> and guild wars.
[03:53] <intreq> lol
[03:53] <intreq> hay can u guys tell me som egames u like
[03:53] <intreq> i currently have urban terror
[03:53] <intreq> :
[03:53] <intreq> ;D
[03:54] <Dr_willis_> !games
[03:54] <Dr_willis_> I tend to play some of the Various PopCap Games in Wine..
[03:54] <letalis> theres a remake of wing commander for linux thats really good.
[03:54] <Dr_willis_> or FreeCiv/FreeCol.
[03:55] <letalis> the game that used to be called crossfire was fun, though the graphics were pretty bad :P
[03:56] <Dr_willis_> bad is relative...
[03:56] <Dr_willis_> :)
[03:57] <letalis> gameplay is what matters.
[03:57] <letalis> but alot of people judge entirely on what it looks like.
[03:57] <letalis> ive seen games with beautiful graphics and utter trash for gameplay.
[04:00] <intreq> i personally thinks that wine is useless
[04:00] <intreq> and annoying to configure
[04:00] <letalis> not really.
[04:01] <letalis> i remember when it was useless.
[04:01] <letalis> LOL
[04:01] <letalis> barely run notepad at one time
[04:01] <intreq> btw thanks guys
[04:01] <intreq> i got a nice rpg game
[04:01] <letalis> it has definately grown up over the years.
[04:01] <letalis> the original Neverwinter Nights has a native linux client.
[04:03] <intreq> the bad thing is
[04:03] <intreq> i have to pay
[04:03] <Dr_willis_> I cant say that ive had to fight with wine very much at all.
[04:03] <Dr_willis_> Getting the Native NWN Client working under linux.. now THAT was a pain when last i tried it.
[04:03] <letalis> wine is rather painless anymore to setup
[04:03] <letalis> lol
[04:03] <letalis> i agree Dr_willis_
[04:04] <Dr_willis_> Wine does id say about 70% of the PopCap Games I try with no hassles.
[04:04] <letalis> i remember trying to get quake2 running in redhat.
[04:04] <Dr_willis_> others dont work worth a poo.
[04:04] <letalis> LOL
[04:05] <Dr_willis_> the fact that wine works as well as it does..  is amazing
[04:09] <intreq> question
[04:09] <intreq> why is most games for linux is first person shooting?
[04:09] <Dr_willis_> I would say that is a false statement intreq
[04:10] <Dr_willis_> id software is noted for porting most all of their games to linux.. but that does not make 'most' games for linux.
[04:10] <intreq> ooops
[04:10] <intreq> sorry
[04:10] <intreq> but the only rpg game i saw from that link is savage
[04:10] <intreq> whicg i am trying
[04:10] <Dr_willis_> I would not call 'savage' a RPG.
[04:11] <Dr_willis_> its a fps. :)
[04:11] <Dr_willis_> Savage2 just came out recently also.
[04:11] <intreq> ahh
[04:11] <intreq> u have any good rpg to suggest>?
[04:12] <Dr_willis_> depends on how you define 'rpg' i guess..
[04:12] <Dr_willis_> I tend to playt the  SNES RPG's with the snes emulators.
[04:12] <faileas> Dr_willis_: in part cause id programmes portably. its trivial, just needs recompilation
[04:13] <intreq> what i mean rpg is like
[04:13] <intreq> olden days
[04:13] <intreq> kinda like wow
[04:14] <Dr_willis_> olden days = WoW ?
[04:14] <Dr_willis_> You are not very old then. :)
[04:14] <Dr_willis_> Olden Days RPG = SSI and  the old D&D RPG games.
[04:14] <Dr_willis_> Ultima I II and so on.
[04:14] <intreq> no imean
[04:14] <intreq> forget it
[04:14] <intreq> hard to explain
[04:19] <dschulz> does anybody knows when Qt 4.4.1 packages will be available in hardy-backports?
[04:20] <letalis> i dont even consider MMO's of any kind rpgs
[04:21] <letalis> theyre just griefing/grinding games.
[04:21] <letalis> LOL
[04:21] <Dr_willis_> SolitareRPG
[04:22] <intreq> just can't find a prg for linux that i like
[04:22] <intreq> sad
[04:22] <intreq> :(
[04:24] <Dr_willis_> I imagine you are expecting some miracal.. or you are not looking very hard.
[04:24] <Dr_willis_> :)
[04:24] <Dr_willis_> Inever did buy Savage2... i ment to do that..
[04:24] <intreq> i don't have money
[04:24] <intreq> :(
[04:24] <intreq> i like savage a lot
[04:24] <Dr_willis_> You are not looking veyr hgard then..
[04:24] <intreq> but got no money
[04:24] <Dr_willis_> Savage 1 - is FREE
[04:24] <Dr_willis_> Savage2 has a comercial demo
[04:24] <cilkay> Hello. Is there a 64 bit version for Core2 CPUs? I see one for AMD64.
[04:25] <Dr_willis_> cilkay,  that one will work.
[04:25] <cilkay> OK, thanks.
[04:25] <Dr_willis_> !find lbreakout
[04:26] <Dr_willis_> lbreakout2 - :) an awsome  remake  of the classic breakout.
[04:27] <oscar> español
[04:27] <oscar> español
[04:29] <Dr_willis_> What about espanol?
[04:29] <Dr_willis_> !es
[04:34] <arrrghhh> well that's sad... vanilla ubuntu saved the day.  vanilla kubuntu (installed via flash drive as opposed to CD) did not want to cooperate.
[04:35] <webpirate> hello all..
[04:35] <webpirate> I have a question.....
[04:35] <webpirate> anyone here?
[04:36] <arrrghhh> !question | webpirate
[04:37] <webpirate> I have a problem that I forgot how to fix....I just re-installed kubuntu 8.0464 bit and the some of the gl screensavers dont' work from kdesktop...I forgot how I fixed it last time...anyone remember how?
[04:37] <webpirate> I remember I had to re-install something but I have tried to  reinstall all the opengl and screensaver stuff and I am still stuck
[04:38] <arrrghhh> hrm... have you tried turning off compositing and kwin any of that crap to see if it was effecting it?  i dunno, i don't use screen savers.
[04:39] <webpirate> yea..I moved my xorg.conf over...from old setup..I just wish I remember what I had to re-install
[04:39] <webpirate> :(
[04:39] <webpirate> its just that when you get ubuntu installed you don't have to re-install it for such a long time that you forget..
[04:40] <webpirate> not like windows where you are constantly fixing the same problem..
[04:40] <webpirate> oops...closed the window
[04:41] <arrrghhh> lol i know what you mean
[04:41] <webpirate> The screensavers listeed under OpenGL Screen Savers work fine....but the ones not listen in any categorty do not ...like my favorite one Colorfire..
[04:41] <arrrghhh> i just had a heckuva time with my video card drivers again, and vanilla ubuntu saved the day.  vanilla kubuntu... not so much.  i tried to drop a backed up xorg.conf in and it broke X.  everything broke X
[04:41] <arrrghhh> hrm
[04:42] <arrrghhh> have you installed kubuntu-restricted-extras and alll your vid card drivers?
[04:42] <webpirate> Yes..nvidia card install properly..
[04:42] <webpirate> I have to check synaptic again to see what to re-install
[04:42] <arrrghhh> install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:43] <webpirate> ok..
[04:43] <webpirate> how abotu this.......
[04:43] <webpirate> the screensaver workes in gnome but not KDE..
[04:43] <webpirate> what do you think about that?
[04:45] <webpirate> ok I fixed it.....anyone want to know how?
[04:45] <arrrghhh> ?
[04:45] <webpirate> I installed kscreensaver-xsavers-extra and now the screensavers work
[04:46] <webpirate> Remember to click on "Run-nice" when selecting screensavers of you CPU usage will be high
[04:46] <webpirate> of = or
[04:47] <Daisuke-Laptop> is there really any point to screensavers anymore?  i just set the display to blank when it's been idle for 10 minutes, no need to make my pc and monitor work extra if i'm not there
[04:48] <webpirate> I just like the screensavers so I know that my 3d is setup properly...
[04:48] <webpirate> if the screensavers skip alot then I know that there is something eating resources..
[04:48] <arrrghhh> lol
[04:48] <arrrghhh> yea i just set my screen to go in low-power mode
[04:48] <webpirate> which I found happens alot with ubuntu 32bit....but not with 64bit
[04:48] <Daisuke-Laptop> top will tell you that a lot quicker than waiting for the screensaver to kick in, then waiting to see if it runs well :)
[04:49] <arrrghhh> i was actually trying to figure out how to force the login screen to go into low-power much faster cuz it sits on that screen the most.
[04:49] <Daisuke-Laptop> arrrghhh: mine are single-user machines, i don't bother logging out :D
[04:49] <arrrghhh> yea mine used to be a single user machine
[04:49] <arrrghhh> until i got a girlfriend and a roommate lol
[04:49] <webpirate> gkrellm would show me 0% cpu usage but screensaver would skip alot so I checked ksysguard and firefox would spike every 5 seconds or so
[04:50] <Daisuke-Laptop> girlfriend i can understand, but roommates buy their own computers :)
[04:50] <arrrghhh> yea he bought the ps3
[04:50] <Daisuke-Laptop> of course, i just built my fiance a shuttle-style box, she's got her machine and i have my 3 :D
[04:50] <webpirate> 4 years windows free here!! :)
[04:50] <arrrghhh> not really a fair trade... but he pays for a 1/3 of the internet and i use way more b/w lol.  not like we get charged by the kb or anything
[04:50] <Daisuke-Laptop> that's not a bad deal then
[04:51] <arrrghhh> yea... i just end up turning old machines into file servers lol.  i don't have room for more monitors.
[04:51] <arrrghhh> i have my 17" and my 42" monitor hooked up to 1 machine, and that's plently let me tell you
[04:51] <webpirate> You don't need more monitors....VNC is the way to go..
[04:52] <arrrghhh> i don't need multiple machines...
[04:52] <webpirate> set them up turn them on and then VNC into them when you need to do something on them
[04:52] <Daisuke-Laptop> desktop ( Daisuke_Ido ), this laptop, and my media center machine, which is a horribly ugly old emachines box running geexbox
[04:52] <Daisuke-Laptop> webpirate: i tend to just ssh, but that's me :)
[04:52] <arrrghhh> i was gonna say the same thing
[04:52] <arrrghhh> no x server
[04:52] <webpirate> Yes....ssh is way better....
[04:52] <webpirate> well there is a way to run x programs with ssh..
[04:52] <arrrghhh> these file servers are like 300 mhz lol
[04:53] <Daisuke-Laptop> but it uses the local X
[04:53] <Daisuke-Laptop> -X option
[04:53] <webpirate> use the -X switch when running programs
[04:53] <arrrghhh> i don't want graphical programs on them
[04:53] <webpirate> but sometime you have to...
[04:53] <webpirate> just remember that -X lets you run them on the client side but daya and commands get sent to server
[04:53] <webpirate> daya = data
[04:54] <webpirate> I guess I still need 32bit forefox for flash with ubuntu 8.04 64bit right?
[04:55] <webpirate> anyone try the open flash player for firefox 3?
[04:58] <webpirate> can some one send me the tutorial for install firefox32 with flash on ubuntu 8.04 pwetty pwease..
[04:59] <crweb> webpirate:  apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:00] <Dr_willis_> data and commands? Err... I think thats technically wrong...  but..  Im not follwing the conversation totally..
[05:00] <webpirate> ok I will try that....what about for java..
[05:00] <crweb> webpirate: google, ubuntu restricted formats
[05:00] <arrrghhh> i just install the kubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:00] <crweb> or that
[05:00] <webpirate> I need firefox 32 thught right?
[05:01] <crweb> webpirate: install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:01] <crweb> thats all
[05:01] <crweb> apt-get takes care of dependencies
[05:02] <benjamin> I'm trying to enable my new HD. I formatted it as ext3, but when i try to enable it in the system settings, it says, "The system reported: mount: mount point /dev/sdb1 is not a directory"
[05:02] <benjamin> any know how to fix this?
[05:04] <webpirate> Make sure that you are using the right mount point....I can never figure out the correct mount points..they change all them time..
[05:05] <webpirate> try sdb0
[05:05] <crweb> thats why you use partition labels
[05:05] <webpirate> yup
[05:05] <crweb> e2label /dev/<yourdevice># "Name"
[05:06] <Dr_willis_> !find wesnoth
[05:06] <webpirate> but I always thought that sdb was for removable drive and hda was for hard drivers.
[05:06] <crweb> sdb is scsi block device
[05:06] <crweb> usb and removable media use scsi interface
[05:06] <webpirate> yes...that what I ment.....sorry
[05:06] <webpirate> :(
[05:07] <crweb> so does serial ata though
[05:07] <webpirate> They took my xmms away from ubuntu 8.04
[05:07] <benjamin> yeah, it's a sata drive
[05:08] <Dr_willis_> !xmms
[05:08] <webpirate> but xmms look so much kooler!
[05:08]  * Dr_willis_ dosent really care. :P
[05:08] <Dr_willis_> xmms is still haunting us in other ways as well.
[05:08] <crweb> xmms2 and get a client
[05:08] <Dr_willis_> I never DID get xmms2 actually working.. heh heh
[05:09] <webpirate> there are tricks on getting xmms installed..
[05:09] <webpirate> there are .deb packages available..
[05:09] <crweb> its like using winamp in 1999 though.. ugh
[05:09] <webpirate> I know thats why I love it!
[05:09] <webpirate> Winamp ricks..
[05:09] <webpirate> I mean rocks
[05:10] <Dr_willis_> winamp is getting where it  has way too many ads/spammy features for me.
[05:10] <crweb> thats why i said 1999
[05:10] <webpirate> ads?
[05:10] <Dr_willis_> Not that i use it under windows (or windows much)
[05:11] <Dr_willis_> stupid banner ads on the shoutcast/other browser windows and poping up wanting me to upgrade/yadda...yadda..
[05:11] <webpirate> oh..
[05:11] <webpirate> I only use ubuntu so I don't know..
[05:11] <Dr_willis_> Of course ya got the spam when ya just ainstall the silly thing
[05:12] <Dr_willis_> 'install this extra free stuff that you dont really want?' (Y/N)
[05:12] <Dr_willis_> The Winamp/Orb/Remote feature is handy. :) when it works
[05:13] <webpirate> you begin to realize after a few years of using linux how much windows really does suck....unless you are a gamer...otherwise it really does nothing..
[05:13] <webpirate> I keep closing the damn window
[05:13] <Dr_willis_> Givewn thhat i seem to spend more time 'fixing' windows' so i CAN play games... then the actual  playing of said games... I will stick with linux
[05:14] <webpirate> I meed a different IRC program....KSirc is kinda lame
[05:14] <webpirate> well you can still get Americas Army for linux..
[05:14] <Dr_willis_> I was thinking the Latest AA, dropped Linux support.
[05:14] <Dr_willis_> but i havent tried that game in Years.,
[05:14] <Dr_willis_> I never could get out of bootcamp. :)
[05:15] <webpirate> yes..AA is stuck on version 2,5 for linux..
[05:15] <Dr_willis_> I did get Savage 1 working under ubuntu just a little bit ago
[05:16] <webpirate> how can I install sun java for firefox...icedtea sucks.. :(
[05:16] <Dr_willis_> Find the sun java package in the package manager perhaps?
[05:17] <Dr_willis_> I forget its exact name
[05:17] <Dr_willis_> !find jre
[05:17] <Dr_willis_> !java
[05:17] <webpirate> I wish I knew more about java programming....ICEDTEA is SOOOOO close to being java but not just there yet
[05:18] <Dr_willis_> never noticed. :) i just tend to install what i need to run the few java apps i use.
[05:18] <Dr_willis_> Wich is FreeCol at this time.
[05:18] <Dr_willis_> java -version
[05:18] <Dr_willis_> java version "1.6.0_06"
[05:18] <webpirate> in a few months Icedtea will probably be perfect clone of java
[05:19] <flaccid> icedtea is java, its just not sun
[05:19] <Dr_willis_> I was thinking that also flaccid  but - my Java-fu-knowledge is rather minimal. :)
[05:20] <webpirate> well...it has a few flaws that need to be addressed
[05:20] <Dr_willis_> webpirate,  the wife said the same thing about ME the other day....
[05:20] <Dr_willis_> :P
[05:20] <webpirate> he he h e
[05:25] <webpirate> now I will fight with sun java to get it installed
[05:25] <webpirate> too bad automatix does not work with 8.04
[05:25] <webpirate> Automatix was awesome
[05:33] <abwhostw> hi
[05:34] <webpirate> hi
[05:36] <arrrghhh> automatix sux
[05:42] <abwhostw> I have problem wioth my apache
[05:42] <arrrghhh> uh... alt-f2 no longer brings up the run dialog....
[05:42] <arrrghhh> !question | abwhostw
[05:42] <abwhostw> hhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[05:42] <abwhostw> yeah
[05:42] <arrrghhh> that is a problem
[05:43] <abwhostw> when I got to the brosswer type
[05:43] <abwhostw> localhost
[05:43] <abwhostw> give me
[05:43] <abwhostw> error
[05:43] <flaccid> !enter | abwhostw
[05:43] <flaccid> abwhostw: specify the error always otherwise we can't help you
[05:43] <abwhostw> Not Found
[05:43] <abwhostw> The requested URL /index.php was not found on this server.
[05:43] <abwhostw> Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.4-2ubuntu5.3 with Suhosin-Patch Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80
[05:44] <arrrghhh> lmao kubuntu made it win key+r cuz i said it wanted it "like ms windows" double click etc
[05:44] <arrrghhh> abwhostw, ok... and the file does indeed exist?
[05:44] <abwhostw> yeah
[05:44] <arrrghhh> who owns it?
[05:45] <flaccid> abwhostw: thats a 404, it means that index.php does not exist in your DocumentRoot
[05:45] <arrrghhh> ls -l
[05:45] <arrrghhh> www-data should own it
[05:45] <abwhostw> abwhostw@(none):~$ ls -l
[05:45] <abwhostw> total 1188
[05:45] <abwhostw> drwxr-xr-x 2 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 07:38 Desktop
[05:45] <abwhostw> drwxr-xr-x 3 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 15:53 Documents
[05:45] <abwhostw> -rw-r--r-- 1 abwhostw abwhostw   11217 2008-08-08 13:17 files
[05:45] <arrrghhh> abwhostw, uh... i was talking about ls -l'ing your /var/www dir
[05:45] <flaccid> !pastebin | abwhostw
[05:45] <abwhostw> drwxr-xr-x 6 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 15:29 installd
[05:45] <arrrghhh> stop
[05:46] <arrrghhh> quit
[05:46] <abwhostw> -rw-r--r-- 1 abwhostw abwhostw 1161257 2008-07-09 07:02 latest
[05:46] <arrrghhh> abwhostw, stop!
[05:46] <abwhostw> drwxr-xr-x 2 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 07:38 Music
[05:46] <abwhostw> -rw------- 1 root     root          74 2008-08-08 13:23 nano.save
[05:46] <arrrghhh> THAT'S NOT WHAT I ASKED FOR
[05:46] <abwhostw> drwxr-xr-x 2 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 07:38 Pictures
[05:46] <abwhostw> drwxr-xr-x 2 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 07:38 Public
[05:46] <abwhostw> drwxr-xr-x 2 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 07:38 Templates
[05:46] <abwhostw> drwxr-xr-x 2 abwhostw abwhostw    4096 2008-08-08 07:38 Videos
[05:46] <abwhostw> how to fix the priblem
[05:46] <flaccid> abwhostw: learn apache.
[05:46] <arrrghhh> i can't help you if you're going to be like that abwhostw
[05:46] <abwhostw> uh
[05:46] <flaccid> abwhostw: default DocumentRoot is /var/www not your homedir or anything
[05:46] <level1_> hi, I'm using Karbon14/kde4... theres a widget to choose color but the method is very weird... is there a way to set it to RGB or HSV?
[05:47] <arrrghhh> abwhostw, and if you look in /var/www i bet there's no index.php
[05:47] <abwhostw> yeah
[05:47] <arrrghhh> level1_, this is for kde3
[05:47] <arrrghhh> #kubuntu-kde4, or there's probably a #kde4
[05:48] <abwhostw> before it's said it's work
[05:48] <abwhostw> and after is disapper
[05:49] <flaccid> abwhostw: if /var/www is your doc root and you run this command: file /var/www/index.php and it returns No such file or directory then what it says is true, there is no /var/www/index.php
[05:50] <flaccid> abwhostw: reading and learning https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP will definately help you with some basics
[05:50] <abwhostw> i did
[05:50] <abwhostw> and doesn't help to fix my problem
[05:51] <flaccid> abwhostw: we gave you the solution to your problem. the file doesn't exist..
[05:51] <abwhostw> apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}
[05:51] <flaccid> abwhostw: where did that come from?
[05:52] <arrrghhh> is that a log?
[05:52] <webpirate> my amsn is broken :(
[05:52] <arrrghhh> webpirate, just use pidgin
[05:52] <abwhostw> when I type
[05:52] <abwhostw> cmmd
[05:53] <abwhostw> apache2
[05:53] <flaccid> abwhostw: thats not how you start/run apache thus why you read the above link.
[05:53] <arrrghhh> abwhostw, apache runs as a daemon service.  if you put "ps -A | grep apache" and it returns something, than apache is running
[05:53] <Schijnn> Could someone tell me where Firefox is installed?  I'm trying to install the Adobe Flash plugin, and I've tried every Mozilla-related subfolder of /usr/lib, but it won't accept any of them.
[05:54] <flaccid> abwhostw: apache is started with sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start or sudo apache2ctl start
[05:54] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, usually /usr/lib/
[05:54] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, and profiles in /home/<user>/.mozilla
[05:54] <abwhostw> abwhostw@(none):/root$ ps -A | grep apache
[05:54] <abwhostw>  6261 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[05:54] <abwhostw>  6341 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[05:54] <arrrghhh> abwhostw, so apache is running
[05:54] <abwhostw>  6342 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[05:54] <abwhostw>  6343 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[05:54] <abwhostw>  6344 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[05:54] <abwhostw>  6345 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[05:54] <abwhostw>  9156 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[05:54] <abwhostw>  9175 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[05:54] <abwhostw>  9176 ?        00:00:00 apache2
[05:54] <arrrghhh> jeez quit with that!
[05:54] <arrrghhh> !flood
[05:54] <flaccid> !rules | abwhostw
[05:54] <arrrghhh> lol
[05:55] <flaccid> hehe. abwhostw if you don't listen, then please leave.
[05:55]  * arrrghhh thinks flaccid picked a better one
[05:55] <abwhostw> ok
[05:56] <abwhostw> the biggest problem I transfer my pc to Ubuntu
[05:56] <abwhostw> I was had windoes server 2008
[05:57] <arrrghhh> horrible... abwhostw you're really not workin the sympathy card here at all.
[05:57] <flaccid> abwhostw: get into the habit of specifying your problem on 1 line and make sure you put detail in the problem, so we actually know what the problem is specifically otherwise you are wasting your typing
[05:57] <Schijnn> I still can't get any sound from Flash in Firefox, and Konqueror locks up whenever I go to Youtube.
[05:57] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, do you have the kubuntu-restricted-extras package installed?
[05:58] <webpirate> GRR icedtea java sucks...
[05:58] <flaccid> webpirate: totally
[05:58] <arrrghhh> but cross-platform ease!
[05:58] <webpirate> I guess I have to do the 32bit forefox thing...damn..
[05:58] <arrrghhh> is about it's only benefit...
[05:59] <arrrghhh> webpirate, yea running a 64-bit os with flash is frustrating to say in the least
[05:59] <arrrghhh> i don't understand why they haven't released a 64-bit optimized version of flash
[05:59] <arrrghhh> adobe suxors.
[05:59] <flaccid> arrrghhh: you answered your own question
[05:59] <arrrghhh> i do that often
[06:00] <Schijnn> arrrghhh: I do now.  Konqueror no longer locks up, but flash still isn't loading.
[06:00] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, ok 1 sec
[06:00] <arrrghhh> did you restart firefox #1
[06:00] <webpirate> anyone wanting java in 64bit use GCJ Web Browser Plugin instead of Iced tea
[06:01] <webpirate> type in about:plugins in the browser and see if flash is listed
[06:02] <Schijnn> webpirate - it is, but my only problem in FIrefox is sound.  I'm not even getting a picture in Konqueror.
[06:02] <abwhostw> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[06:02] <abwhostw> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[06:02] <webpirate> hmm..
[06:02] <webpirate> strange
[06:02] <arrrghhh> abwhostw, are you root when running the command?  ie did you put "sudo" before it to change to a super-user?
[06:02] <flaccid> !adeptfix | abwhostw (make sure no other programs using apt)
[06:03] <arrrghhh> there's that too
[06:03] <flaccid> abwhostw: it always helps if you try to tell us what you are trying to do as well, otherwise there could be many different situations with different answers
[06:03] <arrrghhh> damn i have the java fix but i don't remember wrestling with flash and sound.  did you install flash from multiple places Schijnn
[06:04] <abwhostw> abwhostw@(none):/root$ sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[06:04] <abwhostw> sudo: unable to resolve host (none)
[06:04] <arrrghhh> flaccid, let's just try to guess them all until we're blue int he face
[06:04] <webpirate> anyone know if there is a 3in1 for ubuntu 8.04?
[06:04] <Schijnn> arrrghhh: Yeah, I did.  Adept and Adobe.com
[06:04] <arrrghhh> 3in1?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis_> 3in1 ?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis_> That sounds perverted
[06:04] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, uninstall 'em all
[06:05] <webpirate> was a script that installed 32bit firefox, flash and java all in one shot
[06:05] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, and either stick with the one included in kubuntu-restricted-extras or the one from adobe's site.
[06:05] <Dr_Willis_> I dont mess with 64bit disrto.. so no idea
[06:05] <arrrghhh> yea i got tired of wrestling with flash in 64bit
[06:05] <Schijnn> arrrghhh: Okay, how do I uninstall the one from Adobe?
[06:06] <flaccid> abwhostw: you probably stuffed up your /etc/hosts file, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/203593
[06:06] <webpirate> well flash works perfectly for me...but my java apps freeze after they are loaded..:(
[06:06] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, well there should just be a thing listed for flash in the plugins folder.  /usr/lib/firefox-3.0/plugins i think
[06:07] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, when i mean think a file ending in .so that's related to flash
[06:07] <arrrghhh> that will remove your link from flash to firefox
[06:07] <abwhostw> bash: /etc/hosts: Permission denied
[06:07] <arrrghhh> abwhostw, i think you don't understand sudo
[06:07] <arrrghhh> !sudo  | abwhostw
[06:07] <arrrghhh> please READ
[06:08] <intreq> can u guys tell me a bit why u like kubuntu?
[06:08] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, there might be a way to completely uninstall flash with dpkg...
[06:08] <arrrghhh> intreq, over ubuntu or what?  and you're opening a can of worms...
[06:08] <Dr_Willis_> 'Chicks dig men that can work in the console!'
[06:09] <Schijnn> I found it, it was in /home/<user>/.mozilla/plugins
[06:09] <arrrghhh> everybody has their own opinions as to why they use what
[06:09] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, ah yea the profile folder
[06:09] <abwhostw> 27.0.0.1       localhost
[06:09] <arrrghhh> Dr_Willis_, well there are some chicks who dig geeks...
[06:09] <abwhostw> 127.0.1.1       ubuntu.ubuntu-domain    ubuntu
[06:09] <abwhostw> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[06:09] <arrrghhh> abannari, what are you doing now
[06:09] <arrrghhh> quit it
[06:09] <abwhostw> ::1     ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[06:09] <abwhostw> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[06:09] <abwhostw> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[06:09] <abwhostw> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[06:09] <abwhostw> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[06:09] <abwhostw> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
[06:09] <arrrghhh> i think you're hopeless
[06:09] <abwhostw> 27.0.0.1       localhost
[06:09] <webpirate> I have 3-in-1 script for 32bit firefox, java and flash if anyone wants it..
[06:09] <abwhostw> 127.0.1.1       ubuntu.ubuntu-domain    ubuntu
[06:09] <arrrghhh> we can't help you abannari
[06:10] <arrrghhh> sorry abannari
[06:10] <abwhostw> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[06:10] <arrrghhh> abwhostw, we can't help you
[06:10] <abwhostw> ::1     ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[06:10] <abwhostw> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[06:10] <abwhostw> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[06:10] <abwhostw> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[06:10] <abwhostw> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[06:10] <abwhostw> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
[06:10] <arrrghhh> can we kick him or something?  lol
[06:10] <arrrghhh> !kickban | abwhostw
[06:10] <arrrghhh> lol
[06:10] <arrrghhh> do it ubottu
[06:10] <webpirate> lets all just get along..
[06:10] <arrrghhh> do my bidding
[06:11] <Dr_Willis_> !open the Pod Bay Doors Hal!
[06:11] <arrrghhh> lmao
[06:11] <webpirate> can I post a link for a 3 in one script and all this flash talk will be over
[06:11] <arrrghhh> i'm sorry... i can't let you do that dave....
[06:12] <flaccid> abwhostw: please leave.
[06:12] <webpirate> ok if you want link for 3-in-1 script for firefox java and flash PM me and I will give it to you
[06:13] <Schijnn> arrrghhh: Okay, I uninstalled everything, then reinstalled kubuntu-restricted-extras, and now it doesn't even show the space where the video should be.
[06:13] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, i'm betting that symlink isn't there...
[06:13] <abwhostw> don't worry about me
[06:13] <abwhostw> cuz I install the
[06:13] <Schijnn> What symlink?
[06:13] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, download the official adobe one (don't worry about the kubuntu-restricted-extras packaage, leave it)
[06:14] <arrrghhh> extract it to your desktop, chmod +x the installer, and run it.  direct the installer to /usr/lib/firefox-3.0/ (assuming that's you're ff install directory) and that should take care of it.
[06:15] <pteague> how do i restart the sound server?
[06:15] <pteague> the only alsa i'm seeing is /etc/init.d/alsa-utils
[06:16] <pteague> nm... sound got set to 0
[06:16] <Schijnn> arrrghhh: If I try to install it as root, it refuses to accept any directory I give it, and if I install it as myself, it doesn't let me choose a directory.
[06:16] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, i believe you should install as root.  does the /usr/lib/firefox-3.0 directory exist?
[06:17] <webpirate> he figures that I am trying to send him a linux virus..
[06:17] <webpirate> is there even and virii for linux?
[06:17] <arrrghhh> webpirate, rootkits
[06:18] <Schijnn> No, it's just /usr/lib/firefox, besides I'm trying to get flash working in Konqueror
[06:18] <webpirate> oh...
[06:18] <webpirate> well I have a script that installs firefox32 with java and flash and mplayer..
[06:18] <webpirate> pm me if you need it..
[06:18] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, i've never gotten flash working in konqueror
[06:18] <Schijnn> My only issue with Firefox is sound
[06:19] <arrrghhh> and sound works else where i'm assuming?
[06:19] <arrrghhh> wait flash does work in konqueror...
[06:19] <webpirate> so your firefox does not play sound when playing videos or flash ?
[06:20] <arrrghhh> all i installed was kubuntu-restricted-extras, and flash works perfectly in konqueror.  are you running 64-bit kubuntu Schijnn
[06:20] <Schijnn> webpirate: right, no sound in Firefox, but it works fine elsewhere
[06:20] <Schijnn> arrrghhh: No, I'm not
[06:21] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, there's a volume control on the flash applets, you've checked both of them?  there's a some advanced settings if you right click on a flash app
[06:21] <arrrghhh> well i guess there's not a vol control there...
[06:21] <Schijnn> All I see there is Display, Privacy, Storage, Microphone, and Camera
[06:22] <arrrghhh> yea there's not a vol control there sorry.  what about the vol control that's normally on the video app?
[06:23] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, do a "sudo dpkg --purge flashplugin-nonfree"
[06:23] <Schijnn> arrrghhh: done
[06:24] <arrrghhh> and then install flashplugin-nonfree via apt-get or aptitude or whatever
[06:24] <arrrghhh> make sure you restart your browsers
[06:24] <arrrghhh> and if it still doesn't work there's probably something else you need to purge that i'm not aware of.  did you try to install any other flash renders like gnash?
[06:25] <webpirate> Blah...it hurts me to see all the time wasted.....
[06:26] <Schijnn> arrrghhh: Yeah, but I uninstalled that a while ago.  Also, still no sound.
[06:27] <arrrghhh> webpirate, lol then you fix it
[06:27] <webpirate> :0
[06:27] <webpirate> :)
[06:27] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, and you didnt' install gnash or any of the other ones?
[06:27] <webpirate> 3in1 :)
[06:27] <arrrghhh> i can't remember any other flash renderer lol
[06:27] <arrrghhh> webpirate, lemme look at the script
[06:27] <Schijnn> arrrghhh: I just said I did, but I uninstalled it a while ago
[06:28] <webpirate> http://www.hackradio.ca/ff32-3in1-6.2.8-1.tar.gz
[06:29] <Schijnn> Also, that flashplugin-nonfree never seems to do anything.  I don't think it's connecting.
[06:29] <arrrghhh> Schijnn, oh i didn't get that part...
[06:29] <arrrghhh> and that's the package that i have
[06:29] <webpirate> I am actually gonna update the script to install firefox3
[06:29] <arrrghhh> sound works, flash works, konqueror firefox opera whatever
[06:30] <arrrghhh> webpirate, downloading a .deb from a comcast host?  that just looks baaaaaad
[06:30] <webpirate> well it works for me..
[06:31] <arrrghhh> that's cool
[06:31] <arrrghhh> kubuntu-restricted-extras got flash, java, mp3 support, and god knows what else.
[06:31] <arrrghhh> all working for me by just installing that meta-package
[06:32] <webpirate> i tried that but java applets freeze unless I use sun java :(
[06:33] <arrrghhh> bummer
[06:33] <arrrghhh> worked fine for me :P
[06:33] <Schijnn> Alright, I'm going to go and reboot, and see if that has any effect.  If not, I'll give up for now.
[06:34] <arrrghhh> lol okie
[06:34] <arrrghhh> reboot for me too
[06:36] <arrrghhh> and i'm spent
[06:38] <brandon> flaccid: Hey have you come up with any ideas (sidewinder gamepad detection)
[07:28] <webpirate> anyone having problems with amsn?
[07:29] <webpirate> My amsn won't connect.....
[07:29] <webpirate> but kopete does...
[07:29] <webpirate> any ideas?
[07:29] <flaccid> brandon: i pasted solution yesterday for you here..
[07:31] <webpirate> anyone useing amsn here?
[07:31] <flaccid> webpirate: if someone can help, they will.
[07:31] <holycow> evil has no hold over me
[07:36] <brandon> flaccid: I could not understand what you were wanting me to copy
[07:38] <flaccid> brandon: i pastebinned a new xorg.conf for you. paste your current one if you want me to do it again
[07:38] <flaccid> hmm i'll just check log
[07:39] <brandon> hold on, let me paste bin
[07:39] <flaccid> [Thu Aug 7 2008] [16:38:54] <brandon_>  flaccid: here it is any way http://paste.ubuntu.com/35011/
[07:40] <flaccid> hmmm maybe i failed to paste it, i'll just redo it
[07:41] <flaccid> give me your current one but just in  case there were changes to xorg.conf
[07:41] <brandon> where is it again...lol
[07:41] <flaccid> in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:42] <flaccid> or just open kystemlog and voila
[07:45] <brandon> flaccid"http://paste.ubuntu.com/35786/
[07:52] <flaccid> brandon: no it won't especially if the device is usb. did you put this in there? http://paste.ubuntu.com/35789/
[07:53] <brandon> no. do you want me to
[07:55] <flaccid> brandon: it already was there, what put it there?
[07:55] <brandon> o yes I put that in there thinking that is what you wanted me to do because the link you sent before you left was a forum thread about a mouse and I didn't know it would work.
[07:55] <flaccid> ok 1 sec then
[07:55] <brandon> sorry about that
[07:57] <flaccid> np. brandon give this a try http://paste.ubuntu.com/35790/ and if it doesn't work pastebin the X log. (you must restart X from kdm after updating the xorg.conf)
[08:00] <brandon> ok...give me a few
[08:01] <flaccid> k
[08:19] <happosade> What to need install to get WMA-streams works in amarok
[08:20] <flaccid> !codecs | happosade
[08:22] <flaccid> happosade: as per the link above, kubuntu-restricted-extras should do the trick
[08:28] <happosade> emmm
[08:28] <happosade> still dont work
[08:28] <happosade> whit this stream: http://akastreaming.yle.fi/vp/fiyle/no_geo/live_f.asx
[08:30] <flaccid> happosade: what happens? thing is the codec might be available, but the plugin won't be if its web
[08:30] <happosade> "not playable"
[08:30] <flaccid> happosade: yes but what says that and with what browseR?
[08:31] <flaccid> you might need to use something like mozilla-mplayer which is what im listening to it with now
[08:33] <mefisto__> happosade: in my experience amarok often fails to play audio streams when every other audio player I've tried (both xine-based and mplayer-based) will play the same stream without problems
[08:35] <crimsun> err, amarok uses libxine by default ..
[08:36] <mefisto__> is firefox 3.0 using Iced Tea java plugin by default instead of sun java?
[08:36] <flaccid> ah yes i misread, sorry..
[08:36] <flaccid> let me see what amarok does
[08:37] <flaccid> happosade: that won't play in amarok at all for me. maybe people in #amarok can help
[08:38] <flaccid> happosade: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+question/4378
[08:38] <flaccid> thing is i have w32codecs installed and i still can't play
[08:43] <flaccid> happosade: if i put in http://a713.l2187818713.c21878.e.lm.akamaistream.net/D/713/21878/v0001/reflector:18713?auth=da_cxaRaAazcyb7abdacjbtcOcHbTbpbVbv-biNuN1-E-qkG-p6o9&aifp=v01&WMBitRat
[08:43] <flaccid> e=&WMCache=0 manually, amarok reports no suitable input plugin, so i'd suggest using something else other than amarok.
[08:46] <mefisto__> happosade: kmplayer plays that stream. and I bet anything else you try would work too
[08:47] <flaccid> there are many reports of .asx not working in amarok at all
[08:47] <brandon> flaccid:My mouse quit working
[08:48] <crazy_bus> do all usb and other microphones work on kubuntu or are their recommended brands?
[08:50] <brandon> flaccid:my controller is still not being detected by jscalibration or joystick (peripheals)
[08:52] <brandon> flaccid: sorry bout that I restarted the xserver to get my nvidia card working again.
[08:52] <flaccid> brandon: so where is the log pastebin?
[08:53] <flaccid> did the mouse work at all?
[08:54] <flaccid> well mouse as in sidewinder, which is a joystick right?
[08:54] <brandon> flaccid:http://paste.ubuntu.com/35797/
[08:55] <flaccid> brandon: thats the xorg.conf. i want the xorg log when running this new config
[08:55] <brandon> flaccid:ksystemlog???
[08:56] <flaccid> brandon: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:56] <flaccid> [17:53] <flaccid> did the mouse work at all?
[08:56] <brandon> flaccid:The mouse would not work at all. I had to do a recovery to get it to work
[08:56] <Dr_willis> crazy_bus,  usb audio can be a little tricky at times. from whaat i hear in these channels.
[08:56] <flaccid> brandon: recovery?
[08:58] <mafu> Hello there. I want to have auto-login enabled (because my harddrive is already encrypted and I don't need another passphrase to access the computer), and in the control settings, it says in red writing: Attention! Read Help! Only, if I press F1, there is no help index page.. What to do? :)
[08:58] <crazy_bus> thanks Dr_willis
[08:58] <urkki> I'm on KDE 4.1 Why can't I get my installed themes to appear?
[08:58] <brandon> flaccid: I could not get it to work and can't use command line very well at all...lolhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/35798/
[08:58] <Dr_willis> mafu,  just enable auto login then if you want. :)
[08:59] <mafu> Dr_willis: it's just that I'd like to know what the other options do. :)
[08:59] <Dr_willis> mafu,  never really noticed the others.  I just set it up to auto login a user after 30 sec normally. I think theres an option to not wait.
[09:00] <Dr_willis> I think it can also just auto login after a crash..  the kdm config file has a lot of comments/info on the autologin stuff as well
[09:00] <dwidmann> urkki: what sort of "themes"? Widget styles? Window Decorations? Color schemes?
[09:00] <mafu> Btw, I just saw that there IS help for it.. There are two entries named "System Settings" (next to each other), where one of them is selected at start and is empty..
[09:00] <brandon> flaccid: that probably screws up the log that you wanted to see doesn't it...
[09:00] <mafu> Dr_willis: okay, thank you. :)
[09:00] <mafu> Dr_willis: should I file a bug report for this minor thing?
[09:00] <Dr_willis> mafu,  i wouldent set it to autologin after a SHORT time - like 2 sec... set to somthing like 20-30 so you got time to do any 'changes' you may need at the kdm screen. (like select a session or so forth)
[09:01] <Dr_willis> mafu,  if you want.  I doubt if it will metter much. :P
[09:01] <urkki> I'm on KDM-manager, tab 4 "Themes"
[09:01] <flaccid> brandon: yes i don't see the mouse mentioned in there at all. paste the log when using the xorg.conf i suggested. learn to use X/kde without needing a mouse. no need to go drastic
[09:01] <urkki> dwidmann: I downloaded from there
[09:01] <dwidmann> urkki: ah, KDM themes
[09:02] <urkki> Is that the right place to change appearance?
[09:02] <mafu> Dr_willis: Okay, thanks. :)
[09:02] <dwidmann> Appearance of the boot manager? Yes.
[09:02] <dwidmann> erm
[09:02] <dwidmann> meant to say login manager
[09:02] <dwidmann> where did boot come from
[09:02] <dwidmann> bad me, bad e
[09:02] <mafu> D'oh.. The docs don't say anything about what persistent means..
[09:02] <brandon> flaccid: I had the irc ubuntu up, but could not get it to Kubuntu...lol
[09:03] <urkki> Ah, ok. But how about changing the whole look and feel of OS?
[09:03] <Dr_willis> change windowmanager/desktops :P
[09:03] <dwidmann> urkki: for the rest of the stuff, you'll want to go to system settings -> appearance
[09:03] <dwidmann> And is it me or is kde-look.org down or something
[09:04] <Dr_willis> seems down here dwidmann
[09:05] <flaccid> brandon: oh then just /join #kubuntu
[09:06] <Dr_willis> kde-look.org  isent even timing out.. firefox just tries to load and then stops... oh wait.. there ' page load errror'
[09:06] <Dr_willis> The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.
[09:06] <dwidmann> Opera says "Bad Response From Server"
[09:07] <brandon> flaccid:was wanting to ask you how to get the tab at the bottom to #kubuntu without a mouse
[09:07] <Dr_willis> 'bad server, no cookie!'
[09:07] <flaccid> brandon: alt + left arrow / alt + right arrow
[09:08] <flaccid> :)
[09:08] <brandon> flaccid:thanks! I'll try that xor.conf now
[09:10] <brandon> flaccid:can you give me that pastebin again
[09:11] <brandon> flaccid:sorry to be such a pain
[09:12] <flaccid> [Sat Aug 9 2008] [16:57:55] <flaccid>   np. brandon give this a try http://paste.ubuntu.com/35790/ and if it doesn't work pastebin the X log. (you must restart X from kdm after updating the xorg.conf)
[09:21] <brandon> flaccid:here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/35800/
[09:25] <brandon> flaccid: mouse is working but sidewinder is not detected
[09:27] <Dr_willis> this is a sidewinder game pad? or a sidewinder mouse?
[09:30] <brandon> Dr_willis: Yes it is a sidewinder gamepad
[09:31] <Dr_willis> brandon,  My USB sidewinders work - some games I need to tell them the proper joystick device to use
[09:31] <Dr_willis> often games look for /dev/js0 when they should be using /dev/input/js0 now a days (or so i recall)
[09:31] <flaccid> brandon: mouse?
[09:32] <brandon> dr_willis: Mine is not a usb and I can't get it to be detected
[09:32] <flaccid> this is why we look at the log
[09:32] <spiongraz__> hi does anyone know, is there maybe already a kubuntu remix iso avail with kde4.1 integrated?
[09:32] <brandon> flaccid: mouse is working fine (microsoft explorer)
[09:32] <Dr_willis> You actually have one of those Old  Gameport ones? :) I got some of those also. You may need to load the module for it manually
[09:33] <flaccid> brandon: usb?
[09:33] <flaccid> ah good point... brandon you must also have the sidewinder kernel mod loaded
[09:33] <brandon> flaccid: mouse is usb
[09:33] <flaccid> which you should of put in /etc/modules
[09:34] <flaccid> log says (WW) Configured Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... which suggests the xorg.conf directives i suggested are not in xorg.conf ..
[09:35] <flaccid> Dr_willis: maybe you would like to take over, i have to cook curries.
[09:35] <brandon> flaccid: is this the right one? http://paste.ubuntu.com/35800/
[09:35] <flaccid> Dr_willis: here is the suggested xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/35790/ which specifies the correct device
[09:36] <flaccid> that looks like the same kind of thing
[09:36] <flaccid> i have to cook, ciao
[09:36] <Dr_willis> egads. You have an actual serial mouse?
[09:37] <Dr_willis> if not then   Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
[09:37] <Dr_willis>   is totally wrong
[09:37] <brandon> flaccid:Thank you for everything. I offer you my mother for payment....lol
[09:38] <brandon> flaccid: seriously, thanks
[09:39] <brandon> Dr_willis:I have kubuntu 8.04 (64), sidewinder gamepad, microsoft explorer usb wireless mouse.
[09:39] <Dr_willis> then your xorg.conf line is incorrect for your mouse...
[09:39] <Dr_willis> game pad has NOTHING to do with the xorg.conf
[09:40] <brandon> Dr_willis: please help cause I am a NOOB
[09:40] <_2> that conf looks like they are doing their best to completely do away with xorg.conf
[09:40] <Dr_willis> Option "Device" "/dev/input/mouse0"
[09:40] <Dr_willis>    or Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"  is proberly the line you need to use in the xorg.conf
[09:41] <Dr_willis> _2,  yep. they are going slowly towards a very minimal xorg.conf file
[09:42] <brandon> my mouse is working fine, but I can't get the sidewinder to be detected.
[09:42] <Dr_willis> must be ignoring the wrong mouse lines then in the xorg.conf file
[09:42] <Dr_willis> and the gamepad has NOTHING to do with the xorg.conf :)
[09:42]  * _2 wonders if the devaults will work yet...    rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ;startx    .....
[09:43] <brandon> so what should I do
[09:44] <arty_> hi all
[09:44] <arty_> if I wont to mount
[09:44] <arty_> some iso like this
[09:44] <arty_> what is the reaght command
[09:44] <_2> you don't use
[09:44] <arty_> sudo mount  -o loop smb://192.168.1.17/data/SOFTWARE/!APPS!/!AUTOCAD's!/AUTODESK.AUTOCAD.V2009.WIN32-ISO/acad_2k9_win32.iso /mnt/iso
[09:44] <_2> enter as punct
[09:45] <arty_> _2: what you mean?
[09:45] <flaccid> Dr_willis: yes its serial, thus why i put that in there
[09:45] <_2> !enter | arty_
[09:45] <arty_> ubottu: sry
[09:45] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  gotta love all the confusing info... :)
[09:45] <flaccid> its serial...
[09:46] <arty_> some help with this command pls    sudo mount  -o loop smb://192.168.1.17/data/SOFTWARE/!APPS!/!AUTOCAD's!/AUTODESK.AUTOCAD.V2009.WIN32-ISO/acad_2k9_win32.iso /mnt/iso
[09:46] <Dr_willis> as for the gamepad.... he proberly needs to load the 'gameport' module , and the  lets see....
[09:46] <flaccid> so good luck. but what i can tell you is that we worked it out to be ttyS0
[09:46] <Dr_willis> and the 'sidewinder' module.
[09:46] <Dr_willis> I dont see how a 'usb' mouse can be /dev/ttyS0 :)
[09:47] <flaccid> Dr_willis: yeah we already did that yesterday, brandon just has to make sure it its loaded now or kept in /etc/modules..
[09:47] <flaccid> Dr_willis: its not usb, its serial. this is what brandon told me yesterday.
[09:47] <brandon> here is my etc/modules   http://paste.ubuntu.com/35800/
[09:47] <flaccid> if it is usb, then i was misconfirmed
[09:48] <Dr_willis> he just said its working and its a microsoft explorer usb wireless mouse.... So im going to ignore the whole mouse issue.. :)
[09:48] <_2> arty_ you'll have to quote that because of special chars in it.
[09:48] <flaccid> Dr_willis: thats the other mouse...
[09:48] <brandon> The mouse is usb, but the gamepad (sidewinder) is serial. The mouse is working fine, but the sidewinder gamepad is what is not
[09:48] <arty_> _2: some exsample pls
[09:49] <_2> arty_   sudo mount -o loop "smb..." /mnt/iso
[09:49] <flaccid> technically the gamepad is a mouse brandon
[09:49] <Dr_willis> brandon,  You need to load the 'sidewinder' module for the gamepad to work
[09:49] <Dr_willis> brandon,  try 'sudo modprobe sidewinder' and see if it works.
[09:49] <brandon> ok just a sec
[09:50] <arty_> _2: thx
[09:50] <flaccid> brandon: the pastebin link you provided is not /etc/modules.
[09:50] <_2> arty_ welcome
[09:50] <Dr_willis> brandon,  you may need to load 2 modules.      'sidewinder' and 'gameport'
[09:51] <brandon> here are the modules i have http://paste.ubuntu.com/35806/
[09:52] <Dr_willis> brandon,  you may need to also load  'gameport'
[09:52] <urkki> Hmm, something wrong with kubuntu, I can't change window styles
[09:53] <brandon> here is the response I get from modprobe http://paste.ubuntu.com/35807/
[09:53] <flaccid> brandon: yeah you might need gameport even though the serial port is already accessible etc.
[09:53] <Dr_willis> brandon,  the tail end of the 'dmesg' command - will tell you any info after loading a module.
[09:53] <_2> arty_ an fyi ffr anytime you have special chars "!@#$%^&*'`~"  you will probably need to quote things.   and ! can't be quoted properly so try to avoid it or use   \!   maybe like this. .....   sudo mount -o loop smb://192.168.1.17/data/SOFTWARE/\!APPS\!/\!AUTOCAD\'s\!/AUTODESK.AUTOCAD.V2009.WIN32-ISO/acad_2k9_win32.iso /mnt/iso
[09:53] <flaccid> no return is good for mods
[09:54] <_2> no error means no error
[09:55] <brandon> dme56 command not found
[09:55]  * Dr_willis thinks one should 'check their spelling' when entering commands...
[09:55] <Dr_willis> :P
[09:56] <Dr_willis> 'dmesg'
[09:56] <_2> too l33t for their own 6ood
[09:56] <Dr_willis> or use some better fonts....
[09:56] <Dr_willis> :P
[09:56] <djdarkman> hello, is there a way to sync two kontacs on two seperate pcs?
[09:57] <traqn> has anybody started swish max2 on kubuntu with wine
[09:58] <flaccid> brandon: as per yesterday, we identified that dme56 is not needed or nothing to do with your sidewinder..
[09:58] <_2> arty_ for testing whether a thing needs special quoting use; echo "that specia! thang's name"
[09:58] <brandon> tell me if this is right http://paste.ubuntu.com/35808/
[09:59] <brandon> sorry I had wierd font. I changed it now
[09:59] <brandon> :)
[09:59] <_2> arty_ example    echo "my special char`s list"   <<<---- the ` will need special attention. as the shell will show
[10:00] <_2> and use ^C   or   ^D   to terminate that test...
[10:00] <flaccid> brandon: still waiting for X log when using my configuration to see what the problem is..
[10:02] <brandon> o sorry just a sec
[10:02] <brandon> flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/35809/
[10:03] <_2> error in config file    : Unknown parameter `##'
[10:03] <_2> modules.conf maybe ?
[10:05] <flaccid> brandon: you cannot get (WW) Configured Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one... in the log if you have specified one in xorg, which is what i did..
[10:05] <flaccid> ie. Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
[10:06] <brandon> so the sidewinder wont work?
[10:06] <_2> i think you fellows will find his problem in a module configuration file
[10:06] <_2> his dmesg says      [   45.947348] joydev: Unknown parameter `##'
[10:06] <_2>  [   45.956014] ns558: Unknown parameter `##'
[10:06] <_2>  [   45.976720] sidewinder: Unknown parameter `##'
[10:06] <flaccid> not if the user cannot configure it brandon
[10:07] <flaccid> brandon: there is also this solution which uses a different driver. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=613697 unfortunately things cannot be solved if the user is new to linux/unix
[10:07] <brandon> how do I configure it? :)
[10:07] <flaccid> brandon: i already showed you and over and over you fail, so i give up.
[10:08] <flaccid> replace user and press any key :)
[10:08] <brandon> flaccid: well thanks for trying though
[10:08] <brandon> lol...
[10:09] <flaccid> thats ok. you have two solutions, so if you put your mind to it and persist, you may be able to get it
[10:09] <Dr_willis> if you load the proper modules for the gamepad.. it err.. should just work..  Im confused as to how this is related to the xorg/mouse at all.
[10:09] <flaccid> so try the second solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3827298&postcount=4  <-- those instructions should be easy to understand
[10:09] <flaccid> Dr_willis: because it doesn't just work
[10:10] <_2> !"just works"
[10:10] <_2> !""just works"
[10:10] <_2> pfft
[10:10] <flaccid> !worksforme
[10:10] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  ive also been hearing its a 'side winder gamepad' now im hearing its a 'sidewinder mouse'  Those 2 are not the same thing. :)
[10:10] <Dr_willis> SO i give up.
[10:11] <flaccid> Dr_willis: thats because microsoft called it a gamepad... bill's fault
[10:11] <sluckz> i give up for tonight as
[10:11] <sluckz> well
[10:11] <sluckz> night all
[10:11] <_2> lets all give up...
[10:11] <brandon> here are the modules I have 03:51] <brandon> here are the modules i have http://paste.ubuntu.com/35806/ tell me if this looks like the right ones
[10:11] <Dr_willis> Err... I have a sidewinder game pad, i have several.. one usb old, one gameport (very old), and a sidewinder mouse..
[10:12] <Dr_willis> So now the water is all mudy as to whats actually going on,... so good luck :)
[10:13] <brandon> ok both are made by microsoft one is the mouse (explorer) the other is gamepad (sidewinder) they were both free and I can't argue with free....lol
[10:13] <flaccid> Dr_willis: so when you say gameport, you mean rs232 serial?
[10:13] <flaccid> (db9 connector)
[10:14] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  No... I mean the old 'midi' style gameport often found on sound cards
[10:14] <_2> brandon no. line 11 12 13 are incorrect.   remove everything after the module names     anything following a module name in that file is passwd as module arguments
[10:14] <lenea> is anyone using graphics tablet?
[10:14] <_2> passed   even
[10:14] <Dr_willis> I dont recall ever seeing a 'serial' gamepad/joystick on a pc. :) (on my amiga yes) not the pc.
[10:15] <brandon> 2:ok let me try that then
[10:15] <_2> Dr_willis and on c64   but i'm with you, never saw a pc one
[10:15] <flaccid> Dr_willis: well brandon reports his is serial, plugged into a serial pci card or something. thinking back now its probably gameport and plugged into a card that is not being recognised. meh i so cbf spending time re-working now
[10:15] <Dr_willis> _2,  so this is all adding more and more to my confusion. :P
[10:16]  * _2 comes to almost the same confusion
[10:16] <Dr_willis> I think its time for brandon to go hit the wiki pages for these 'ports' and conectors and see what he actually has.
[10:17] <_2> wikipidia.org too
[10:17] <flaccid> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_port
[10:17] <emons> hi guys, does anybody of you use imageshack to share images on the web? well, i used to do with xp but since a use hardy im not able to upload any image, when i try it takes ages showing me the "loading" window but it just doesnt move, till it says "connection interupted". can someone help? thanks
[10:17] <flaccid> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_port
[10:17] <flaccid> shouldnt be hard to work it out now
[10:18] <flaccid> its either 9 or 15 pin at the end of the day despite both being d connectors
[10:18] <_2> !flash | emons maybe it's flash ?
[10:18] <brandon> I know what the ports are the gamepad (sidewinder) has a plug on it that looks like the one for my flat panel and it has 15 pins
[10:18] <_2> vga is 15 pin D   ?
[10:18] <emons> i already installed flash and it seems to work well with all the other animations and stuff
[10:18] <flaccid> brandon: right then its gameport
[10:19] <flaccid> so i wasted my time entirely
[10:19] <brandon> what do you mean
[10:19] <flaccid> i'll leave you with Dr_willis if he feels like helping
[10:19] <flaccid> brandon: gameport is 15 pins.
[10:19] <Dr_willis> Heck.. load the 2 modules.. it should work...  thats about all there is to it.
[10:19] <brandon> I know
[10:19] <flaccid> Dr_willis: reportedly 'it doesn't work' doing it like that
[10:20] <_2> emons i don't know then.   that was my only guess.
[10:20] <emons> alright thanks
[10:20] <emons> flaccid, any idea?
[10:20] <brandon> I'll load the modules and see
[10:20] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  i have to wonder how hes 'testing' that gamepad
[10:20] <flaccid> emons: world peace
[10:20] <emons> thatz a pretty cool one, i'll tell god
[10:20] <brandon> I try to use jscalibrator and joystick in the peripheals and neither can detect it
[10:21] <emons> any idea about why i cant upload images with imageshack?
[10:21] <flaccid> god doesn't exit. now im going to spend time with my curry instead of wasting it here.
[10:21] <Dr_willis> sudo modeprobe gameport
[10:21] <Dr_willis> sudo modeprobe sidewinder
[10:21] <Dr_willis> check 'dmesg' output
[10:21] <emons> c'mon flaccid, its a sunny day today, put a smile on that face and help me :D
[10:21] <flaccid> Dr_willis: and just a reminder, there is this solution if 'zero config' in xorg.conf fails (again): http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3827298&postcount=4
[10:22] <flaccid> emons: people will help you if they can/want to
[10:22] <Dr_willis> as a test one could do 'cat /dev/input/js0' and see if anything gets spit out   ctrl-c to close the 'cat' test
[10:22] <brandon> Dr_willis: modprobe returned nothing
[10:22] <Dr_willis> flaccid,  err.. thats for a sidewinder mouse.. not a sidewinder gamepad.
[10:22] <emons> i no flaccid, but i also no u helped me in the past, and that was a pretty good help, u solved like 3 of my probs, thatz why i want you :D
[10:22] <Dr_willis> brandon,  we covered that earlier..  modeprobe is not very verbose in its output if things get loaded..
[10:22] <_2> od would be prettier output than cat...
[10:23] <emons> dont u remember the statue i said i'd raise up for u? eheheh
[10:23] <flaccid> Dr_willis: if they are different products then i was mislead as we identified it as serial but now its gameport..
[10:23] <brandon> I was jsut letting you know so we don't get confused about any of this.
[10:23] <flaccid> emons: well helpers get pissed with people pinging them when they should ask in the channel. so you won't get help from me like that
[10:23] <flaccid> !u | emons
[10:24] <Dr_willis> I think the correct joystick device is /dev/input/js0 now a days...
[10:24] <emons> flaccid? i'm not pinging you at all... what are you talking about?? alright as i u want...
[10:24] <brandon> cat says command not found
[10:25] <flaccid> emons: im referring to [19:20] <emons> flaccid, any idea? <-- dont do that
[10:26] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. if the command 'cat' is not found.. You either did a major typo.. or are missing some very fundamental commands
[10:26] <_2> or /bin not in path
[10:26] <flaccid> meh milk is sour, i'll be back after de stressing from lack of compensation
[10:27] <brandon> i'm sorry it says no such directory not command not found
[10:28] <emons> sorry mate, that was just because _2 said he had no other "guesses" no other "ideas" about how to solve my problem, then i see you in the channel, remembered the way you helped me the last times and thought: let's ask flaccid. don't see how that could be rude or mean, or however you took it. sorry mate, was only asking for help...
[10:28] <_2> brandon ls /dev/input
[10:28] <Dr_willis> it may be /dev/js0 or /dev/input/SOMTHINGELSE Im not on a ubunttu box wth a game pad to double check what its called now2 a days
[10:28] <Dr_willis> this is what 'dmesg' would of mentioned at the end. after you loaded the modules succesuffly
[10:28] <emons> too late...
[10:30] <emons> alright, bye guys, take it easy
[10:32] <_2> i think it needs to be /dev/input/*   for the tools afore mentioned to work.
[10:32] <brandon> here is what i get from ls /dev/input  http://paste.ubuntu.com/35819/
[10:33] <Dr_willis> if theres no /dev/js* or /dev/input/js* devices *(where * is a #) then either you need to load a few more modules.. or the device is not seen properly.  si my guess
[10:34] <florian> Hi! With the standard apt-sources after installing kubuntu (kde4), do i get kde4.1 updated automatically sometimes?
[10:35] <Dr_willis> I was thinking there was to be a change to make gamepads show up on some other devices.. but never seen that happen yet.
[10:35] <Dr_willis> !kde4
[10:35] <_2> brandon   sudo mknod /dev/input/js0 c 13 0     # would make the device node. but i suspect that udev should have already made it 'IF' the module was inserted and the device activated    i'll  try to not confuse this issue any farther
[10:35] <florian> Dr_willis: thanks!
[10:36] <Dr_willis> given all the modules he has been trying to load/handload.. it may be best if he just rebooted with the gamepad plugged in. and see what dmesg shows up and if it works then.
[10:36] <Dr_willis> Hard telling what other extra modules are loaded now
[10:37] <brandon> _2: do i include th # with that?
[10:37] <_2> brandon doesn't matter.  the # is a comment which will cause bash to ignore the rest of the line.
[10:37] <brandon> ok
[10:38] <brandon> it's there now
[10:39] <shamil> could anyone in here help me out with luks password changing over lvm?
[10:39] <Dr_willis> manually making the device node... is proberly NOT going to help.. :)
[10:39] <_2> brandon   od /dev/input/js0     # and move the stick to see if it outputs anything.
[10:40] <_2> Dr_willis only for a test case.   only for a test case.
[10:40] <shamil> i found as many instructions as possible for changing a luks password, but none pertain to luks over lvm partitions
[10:40] <Dr_willis> Yea. :) i would definiatly say a reboot after all these testings would be a good idea
[10:40] <brandon> let me reboot then and we can see what happens...:)
[10:41] <_2> brandon did you correct your /et
[10:41] <_2> never mind
[10:41] <_2> /etc/modules  file
[10:42]  * Dr_willis runs away and hides
[10:42] <_2> if he didn't,  reboot will help nothing.
[10:42] <_2> and is un-needed anyway.
[10:43] <_2> one could use modprobe w/-r  to achieve the same end
[10:44] <Dr_willis> given how long it took to just get anything done....... it will proberly take him 3 hrs to reboot
[10:44] <Agent_bob> :)
[10:47] <brandon> still not detecting the device on /dev/input/js0
[10:48] <brandon> what should /etc/modules say?
[10:48] <brandon> should I have something specifying a location for any of those modules
[10:49] <Dr_willis> You simply give the module name to be loaded
[10:50] <Dr_willis> the 'lsmod' command will show what modules are loaded/inuse
[10:50] <Agent_bob> inuse ?
[10:51] <Agent_bob> oh  heh  in use   sorry.  i'm slow
[10:51] <brandon> thanks Agent-bob
[10:51] <Agent_bob> welcome
[10:51] <brandon> I downloaded them so should i restart X
[10:51] <Dr_willis> and its also possible you need to load the proper module for whatever soundcard/device the gamepad is plugged into.
[10:52] <Dr_willis> downloaded them? Huh?
[10:52] <brandon> Agant_bob sent some modules to me
[10:52] <Agent_bob> be back in a few   have to make rounds.
[10:52] <Dr_willis> that shouldent of been needed.
[10:52] <Agent_bob> brandon no i corrected you /etc/modules   and sent it to you.
[10:53] <Agent_bob> your
[10:53] <brandon> thanks
[10:54] <Dr_willis> its possible he needs to load the ---> emu10k1-gp
[10:54] <Dr_willis>   module also. if he has a creative soundcard
[10:54] <Dentharg> Hi
[10:55] <Dentharg> I am new to Kubuntu; browsing FAQs, launchpad I did not find whether a binary package for KDevelop4 has been released.
[10:55] <Dentharg> Can I get it from somewhere?
[10:56] <Dentharg> I already am using KDE4.1
[10:57] <Hybrid> i have some problems with my usb's, they wont find anything, could anyone help me out?
[10:59] <brandon> let me restart my x-server
[10:59]  * Dr_willis missed what the X server has to do with this...
[11:03] <mefisto__> if I install kubuntu 64bit alongside 32bit (dual-boot) what can be shared between the two? can I use the same home dir? can both use the same swap partition? etc...
[11:04] <brandon> dr_willis: I really appreciate your help along with everyone elses. But, I have to get to sleep, I have to get up in 2 hours.
[11:04] <Dentharg> mefisto__: I would assume that /home can be freely shared
[11:04] <Dr_willis> mefisto__,   personally i wouldent even mess with  64bit - unless you really needed it.
[11:04] <brandon> Yea I am findinf out the hard way huh
[11:05] <brandon> finding
[11:05] <brandon> Good night to you all and maybe we can caht tomorrow
[11:05] <mefisto__> Dr_willis: speaking from experience? that's why I want to dual-boot, so I can try it and compare before maybe abandoning 32bit
[11:05] <brandon> chat
[11:06] <Dr_willis> mefisto__,  most likely you will gain very little at this time.. Unless you just have to use more then 4+gb of ram.. or have other special needs
[11:08] <mefisto__> speaking of ram, does 32bit linux make all 4gb of ram available? I hear 32bit windows cannot (4gb ram will appear as 3.2gb or something like that)
[11:12] <Dr_willis> if you have EXACTLY 4gb of ram..  'it depends' :)
[11:13] <Dr_willis> and its a deep and complex issue. in short   various hardware/drivers  can take away from the total amount of ram that  the machine 'could use' thus  taking bites out of the 4gb limit.
[11:14] <Dr_willis> ive seen it range from 3.2 gb to 3.8 gb of the 4gb thats seen..
[11:18] <gnumm> does anyone know if kde4.2 will be in backports or in PPA in kubuntu 8.10?
[11:53] <tim_> if i tick a box in firefox 3.0 there is no cross in the box, but the whole area becomes white, it's the same with the boxes in the compiz-ccsm window
[11:54] <flaccid> tim_: which theme?
[11:54] <jagguli> hi all ... im running the latest ubuntu server kernel 2.6.24-19-server my X hang everyday .... anyone else with similar problems ..
[11:55] <jagguli> i cant seem to figure out wats wrong .. nothing unusual in the logs .. happens when i leave the system running overnight
[11:56] <flaccid> jagguli: you could try reporting a bug with as much info as possible i guess
[11:56] <jagguli> thats the problem .. cant find anything in the logs
[11:56] <jagguli> so i dont know what is causing it ..
[11:56] <flaccid> which usually suggests hardware or a more in depth bug or something
[11:57] <jagguli> i suspect its the intel video drivers
[11:57] <flaccid> whys that?
[11:57] <jagguli> the display gets hung up but everything else is fine. ..
[11:57] <jagguli> amarok is playing .. serverts r running etc
[11:58] <flaccid> that doesn't mean its the driver. still you can run the vesa driver to rule this out
[11:58] <tim_> flaccid: im using the standart theme, didnt change anything
[11:58] <jagguli> to create the senario i have to leave the computer inactive for long .. when i sleep and wake up .. its hung ...
[11:58] <GerrySly> how do I do this: http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/2555/screenshotbd4.png on kubuntu
[11:59] <flaccid> tim_: ah ok. i guess you could submit a bug with either mozilla or lp
[11:59] <flaccid> jagguli: oh. that could be quite a few things. not sure if i can help
[11:59] <jagguli> GerrySly: use superkaramba
[11:59] <jagguli> ... hmmm
[12:00] <jagguli> i think its kwin
[12:00] <jagguli> cuz today ...it was hung up as usual ...
[12:00] <flaccid> GerrySly: do what exactly? it looks like gnome to me
[12:00] <jagguli> and i killed kwin
[12:00] <GerrySly> flaccid: put the application as the background
[12:01] <jagguli> an it worked
[12:01] <jagguli> apt-get install superkaramba
[12:01] <jagguli> GerrySly:apt-get install superkaramba
[12:01] <flaccid> GerrySly: i don't know. we don't support gnome here.
[12:02] <tim_> if i press alt+f2(run-command) it only opens in background
[12:02] <mefisto__> tim_: I got rid of the firefox annoyance by installing kde-style-qtcurve and gtk2-engines-qtcurve, then in systemsettings, appearance, set gtk apps to use qtcurve style
[12:02] <GerrySly> flaccid: I know that, I wanted to know how to do it on KDE lol which is why I asked
[12:03] <flaccid> GerrySly: im not aware of functionality to run an application as a wallpaper, sorry
[12:03] <flaccid> GerrySly: #kde might be able to help
[12:03] <tim_> mefisto__: thx, i'll try
[12:03] <flaccid> GerrySly: you might wanna be more specific with your questions if you don't want answers like that...
[12:03] <GerrySly> well I got an answer from jagguli then you responded
[12:04] <flaccid> jagguli: superkaramba can run an application as wallpaper?
[12:05] <mefisto__> tim_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/194624
[12:06] <tim_> everytime i try to install something i get this
[12:06] <tim_> After this operation, 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[12:06] <tim_> Richte sun-java6-doc ein (6-06-0ubuntu1) ...
[12:06] <tim_> This package is an installer package, it does not actually contain the
[12:06] <tim_> JDK documentation.  You will need to go download one of the
[12:06] <tim_> archives:
[12:07] <tim_>     jdk-6-doc.zip jdk-6-doc-ja.zip
[12:07] <flaccid> !pastebin | tim_
[12:07] <tim_> (choose the non-update version if this is the first installation).
[12:07] <checkob> hi, i gem uninstalled one of the base ruby packages and now ruby crashes with this error: no such file to load -- rbconfig (LoadError), even uninstalling and reinstall doesnt help
[12:07] <tim_> Please visit
[12:07] <tim_>     http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/
[12:07] <tim_> now and download.  The file should be owned by root.root and be copied
[12:07] <tim_> to /tmp.
[12:07] <tim_> [Press RETURN to try again, 'no' + RETURN to abort]
[12:07] <tim_> how can i abort this
[12:07] <flaccid> tim_: what are you trying to achieve?
[12:07] <tim_> flaccid: apt-get install something
[12:08] <flaccid> this is german?
[12:08] <tim_> yes
[12:08] <mefisto__> tim_: doesn't it abort if you type no, then enter ?
[12:08] <flaccid> tim_: what does richte mean?
[12:08] <tim_> mefisto__: yes, but i cannot install anything
[12:09] <mefisto__> tim_: you get that message for everything??
[12:09] <tim_> yes
[12:09] <flaccid> i would purge sun-* then go from there
[12:09] <tim_> flaccid: what is purge?
[12:10] <flaccid> tim_: its an action to completely remove a package in apt or adept
[12:10] <tim_> just type purge sun-*?
[12:10] <tim_> as root?
[12:10] <flaccid> tim_: nope
[12:11] <tim_> apt-get purge?
[12:11] <flaccid> tim_: sudo apt-get remove --purge "sun-*"
[12:11] <flaccid> after that test it. then after that install java as required.
[12:14] <tim_> ok nthx
[12:14] <jagguli> GerrySly:http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8483/snapshot3ak6.png
[12:14] <jagguli> GerrySly:something like this?
[12:40] <lakis1982> i have installed kubuntu 8.04.1 kernel 2.6.24.19 update , but when i i boot the pc and  in the menu i select to boot from the new kernel , it doesnt get me into graphical enviroment ... i am in a " dos " like enviroment and i login there and it stays in dos ... it just says this ,  kinit : no resume image , doing normal boot
[12:41] <flaccid> lakis1982: goto a tty and login and check the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to seee what failed
[12:41] <lakis1982> how do i do that ?
[12:43] <flaccid> lakis1982: ctrl + alt + f2
[12:51] <flaccid> ok im off
[12:53] <risu> hellow
[13:11] <_d4vid> Official Uzbek Ubuntu Support Channel #ubuntu-uz *for download of ubuntu latest stable release use http://ubuntu.uz
[13:40] <Fuduy> is there any way of increasing the mouse wheel to above 12?
[13:52] <timo> hi there, how do i know my laptop keyboard chipset? I want to get the latest driver for my laptop keyboard..
[13:52] <timo> !keyboard
[13:52] <timo> hmm that's no use
[14:41] <happosade> whit what encode .iso DVD to .avi ?
[14:41] <happosade> !encode dvd
[14:41] <happosade> !dvd
[14:45] <Anubi> hi guys. short question: i want to install Kubuntu 804 on a hdd with win
[14:51] <Anubi> my partition scheme is this: sda1, sda5, sda6 and sda7 are ntfs partitions. sda8, sda9 are ext3 and sda10 is swap. i deleted sda9 and sda8 to make just one ext3 partition and i have only one ext3 partition, but it's asking me Location for the new partition: Beginning or End.
[14:52] <Anubi> i'm a little confused, since my ext3 partition and swap partition are the last partitions on my hdd
[14:55] <Anubi> so...what should i do?
[14:58] <dschulz> Anubi: to be sure you should see the output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[14:59] <dschulz> try to understand how your partitions are arranged on disk
[15:02] <yncx> que se dice por este lado
[15:04] <ubuntu> where i can put an screenshot with my partition scheme ?
[15:11] <yncx> nadie habla espanol aqui entonces/
[15:11] <yncx> me voy entonce no hay na que hacer aqui
[15:25] <faileas> Anubi: tinypic might work
[15:41] <concernedcitizen> hey guys what's the remix version all abt?
[15:43] <brmassa> Guys, Kubuntu HARDY is not detecting my new SATA HDD. what should i do?
[16:08] <BluesKaj> !konversation
[16:09] <BluesKaj> !Konversation
[16:09] <BluesKaj> !info Konversation
[16:10] <BluesKaj> hmm, wonder when the 1.1 version will be available in the repos
[16:11] <RobiX> hi 2 all
[16:12] <RobiX> i use kubuntu and windows (dual boot) - what is better: using a external drive with NTFS or with ext3 ?
[16:17] <BluesKaj> RobiX, dunno for sure but personally I would use my internel drive for linux (ext3) and let windows (NTFS) reside on the external. It also depends on the uses you have planned for the external drive.
[16:18]  * faileas tends to go for NTFS
[16:18] <faileas> or fat32
[16:20] <gnumm> faileas: for what?
[16:20] <faileas> "what is better: using a external drive with NTFS or with ext3 ?"
[16:21] <faileas> NTFS on linux seems to work better than ext2/3 on windows. fat32 should work on anything with no issues
[16:21] <gnumm> what do you want to do with?
[16:21] <gnumm> which operating system?
[16:22] <faileas> RobiX: you missed the original question ;p
[16:22] <faileas> oops
[16:23] <faileas> i mean gnumm - some asked about in in a kubuntu/windows envitonment
[16:27] <RobiX> faileas: ;)
[16:28] <RobiX> BluesKaj: and => 50% Windows, 50% Kubuntu - NTFS, too?
[16:30] <ubuntu> question: can i install kubuntu on a usb hdd ?
[16:31] <ubuntu> how can i do that ?
[16:37] <abby87> ubuntu: kindly refer to this link http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/
[16:38] <ubuntu> 10x abby
[16:38] <abby87> ubuntu:dunno if u like fedora or not but fedora supports persistance right in it http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD/USBHowTo
[16:39] <abby87> ubuntu: :-)
[16:42] <emons> hello when i open a webpage sometimes this message appears "you have chosen to open index.php which is a php file from http://www.blabla.com what should firefox do with this file?" and then it wants me to chose the application i'd like to open the file with instead of just opening the page i selected. why does it do like this? how can i fix this? thank you"
[16:44] <abby87> emons: Firefox->Preferences->Content->File Types->Manage
[16:45] <emons> thanks for your help, i'll try it right away
[16:45] <abby87> emons: select your file type & click "Change action"
[16:46] <emons> sorry but there's no "file type" under "content"
[16:47] <abby87> emons: try typing about:config in firefox address bar
[16:47] <abby87> emons: search for extensionx
[16:47] <abby87> *extensions
[16:48] <abby87> emons: change browser.download.hide_plugins_without_extensions to false
[16:49] <emons> sorry abbey but im a brand newbie and i dunno how to do that :D
[16:50] <abby87> emons: any site wic this prob occours?
[16:50] <emons> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Support then select "documentation"
[16:50] <emons> when i click on it, it tells what i said before
[16:51] <abby87> emons: wic link wen clicked does the prob occour... ? coz the prob is not occouring here
[16:52] <emons> i told u its documentation
[16:52] <abby87> emons: that's the sites problem i guess its not documentation
[16:53] <emons> cuz the thing is, its not the only site that does that
[16:53] <emons> so u think its not firefox or kubuntu's prob?
[16:53] <abby87> emons: *correction >that's the sites problem i guess its not ur firefox
[16:53] <emons> alright cool
[16:53] <emons> thank u
[16:53] <abby87> emons: u can always ask in the firefox channel
[16:54] <abby87> emons: its #firefox
[16:55] <newk> i have a brand new kubuntu install that worked out of box wit my wired internet but now on last start the internet connects to ip 0.0.0.0 and doesnt allow access to the internet
[16:55] <emons> ah ok thank you abby. didn't no about that chan
[16:55] <emons> thanks mate
[16:56] <newk> i have a brand new kubuntu install that worked out of box wit my wired internet but now on last start the internet connects to ip 0.0.0.0 and doesnt allow access to the internet
[16:56] <abby87> emons: u welcome ..but still i think its just a bug in the site design ...don't worry much ...coz same prob is happening on my comp
[16:57] <abby87> newk: u did any changes to ur connection ?
[16:58] <emons> the thing is, i wanted to open "documentation" to solve some probs that i have on my kubuntu cuz i wasnt feeling to ask here but since it doesnt open it i guess ill have to :D
[16:58] <newk> no i tryed ... afterwards but it jus goes bac to the same
[16:58] <abby87> emons: fire away
[16:59] <juray> hi
[16:59] <abby87> newk: wired internet ...is it direct connection ? i mean some adsl router and stuff u using?
[16:59] <juray> is there somebody who can help my with KDE?
[16:59] <newk> ethernet wired into the back
[16:59] <abby87> juray: hi juray
[16:59] <abby87> juray: sure we can
[17:00] <juray> ok its not to be a big problem only...
[17:00] <abby87> juray: wats ur prob ...if its a purely kde prob u can get better help on #kde ...
[17:01] <emons> fire away? wath u mean? :D
[17:01] <juray> if i swtch to the other desktop i dont want to see the window header in panel
[17:01] <abby87> newk: so as soon as u installed kububtu did it connect without any configuration?
[17:01] <emons> it happened the same to me by the way
[17:02] <emons> and now it goes slower than ever
[17:02] <abby87> juray: kde which version?
[17:02] <newk> abby87: perfect no problem... but unfortunately there was a hard shutdown and this seemed to affect it
[17:02] <juray> how to detect a kde version
[17:03] <abby87> juray:open any window> help > about KDE
[17:03] <abby87> newk: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:04] <juray> K Desktop Enviroment. Release 3.5.9
[17:04] <abby87> newk: have u tried ifconfig
[17:04] <abby87> newk: ?
[17:05] <newk> abby87 i tried it but im not sure exactly wat the command to do is
[17:05] <newk> ?
[17:05] <abby87> juray: u checked that in konversation window?
[17:05] <juray> no
[17:06] <juray> i opened some directory
[17:06] <abby87> newk: ifconfig will show the network interfaces on ur comp so open a terminal type ifconfig and any interface u have is listed
[17:07] <newk> abby87: there is 3
[17:07] <newk> eth0, eth0:avahi and lo
[17:07] <newk> as far as i no it was always eth0
[17:07] <abby87> juray: i dunno bout kde 3.XX versions much but still try this right click on panel>task manager settings >check only show tasks from current desktop
[17:08] <abby87> newk: lo is the loopback interface
[17:08] <abby87> newk: so lo is no prob ...avahi is the alien here...
[17:08] <newk> abby87: yeah wat is that ?
[17:09] <abby87> newk: u using a laptop??
[17:09] <newk> abby87: no main computer
[17:09] <newk> abby87: i hav ubuntu installed on my laptop and had it installed on this bu then something went wrong so i taut id try kubuntu
[17:09] <newk> its installed with wubi by the way
[17:09] <abby87> newk: sudo /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon stop
[17:10] <newk> abby87: still the wrong settings and all..
[17:10] <mefisto__> juray: right-click panel, Configure panel, then go to Taskbar, and select the boxes there, the way you want it to work
[17:11] <abby87> newk: this should work mostly ..coz avahi daemon was causing probs (i guess)
[17:11] <newk> restart do any good?
[17:13] <abby87> newk: restart is such a windowishly stupid thing to do...its linux
[17:13] <mefisto__> newk: did ifconfig show an i.p. number for eth0, or just 0.0.0.0   ?
[17:13] <newk> mefisto__: jus 0.0.0.0
[17:14] <newk> abby87: sorry bout that ,... thanks for help .. i am a linux noob
[17:14] <newk> mefisto__: in fact only kde network manager shows an ip address for eth0
[17:14] <mefisto__> newk: what does it say when you do: cat /etc/network/interfaces   ?  still 0.0.0.0 for eth0  ?
[17:15] <abby87> newk: no don't be sorry and stuff ...its just one of the best things of linux ..bye-bye to warm booting
[17:16] <newk> mefisto__: it says nothing about eth0 at all jus lo
[17:17] <abby87> newk: did u disable avahi daemon by that command  sudo /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon stop
[17:17] <abby87> ?
[17:17] <newk> abby87: yeah
[17:18] <abby87> newk: so now its working fine ? is it?
[17:18] <newk> abby87: no still nothing
[17:19] <newk> abby87: would it b possible its jus lik my ip address and all those configurations are wrong
[17:19] <newk> abby87: but i didnt change the,
[17:19] <abby87> newk: where & when do u see the 0.0.0.0?
[17:20] <newk> abby87: down in the bottom left tray inknetworkmanager thats the ip it gives for the "connection" i hav
[17:21] <abby87> newk: does it affect ur connection speed and stuff?  earlier was it showing ur original ip?
[17:21] <newk> abby87: there is no speed watso ever there is no connection to the internet. i dont no about earlier it was just workin no problem
[17:23] <abby87> newk: it doesn't connect at all ?
[17:23] <abby87> newk: have u confirmed with ur network provider?
[17:24] <newk> abby87: in the tray it looks lik it connects but it doesnt go to any websites like..
[17:24] <newk> abby87: if i ping my router and it doesnt respond does that mean no connection
[17:24] <mefisto__> newk: try this. right-click the knetworkmanager icon, manual configuration. disable eth0, and then enable it again
[17:24] <newk> abby87: my wireless internet is workin perfect on my laptop
[17:25] <newk> mefisto__ i did but to my eyes the "ip address" it gives is wrong
[17:25] <abby87> newk: right click tray icon >options>go to online mode
[17:26] <newk> abby87:its alredi on online mode
[17:26] <mefisto__> what ip address does it show?
[17:26] <mefisto__> zeros again?
[17:27] <newk> mefisto:yeah ...
[17:27] <amerigo> ! browser
[17:28] <amerigo> ! navigation
[17:28] <amerigo> ! modem
[17:28] <mefisto__> newk: you could try to manually configure it, put in the ip address you want (eg, 192.168.1.101) and see if that wakes things up
[17:28] <newk> mefisto__: as far as i no its lik automatic dchp and i dont no the gateway
[17:29] <amerigo> I gotta a problem in navogation
[17:29] <abby87> !factiod
[17:29] <amerigo> navigation sorry
[17:29] <abby87> !factoid
[17:29] <amerigo> line is up
[17:29] <amerigo> wifi router works
[17:30] <amerigo> in browser : the page request is displaied for a second...
[17:30] <amerigo> then disappears
[17:30] <amerigo> and i got a error
[17:30] <amerigo> broser protection not found
[17:31] <amerigo> .... some tips?
[17:31] <amerigo> ! vista
[17:31] <newk> mefisto: abby87: thanks for the help... guess ill jus hav to keep trying thanks anyway
[17:31] <abby87> newk: try #ubuntu maybe those guys can help
[17:31] <laci__> I just installed compiz but it doesnt do anything, although I tried to change desktop effects. I cant see any change in visuals.. Any idea?
[17:32] <Dr_willis> You did enable compiz? you do have the proper 3d video card drivers isntalled?
[17:33] <mefisto__> newk: you can try it, then change back to dhcp later. click configure interface button, put in a ip address, and netmask just choose the first in the list.
[17:33] <laci__> yes I have an ATI HD2400 pro, but with the default driver, not the latest catalyst
[17:33] <Dr_willis> theres 'default' as in the 'ati' driver.. then theres the 'fglrx' drivers that are in the repos..
[17:33] <abby87> mefisto__: can it be a prob of knetworkmanager?
[17:33] <anthony> this is my first day using kubuntu comming from open suse 11.0 and i do have to say i am impressed
[17:34] <Dr_willis> then theres the 'latest' :)  not in the repos.
[17:34] <newk> mefisto__:interestingly im back on windows xp on same computer and theres a problem wit the internet
[17:35] <mefisto__> abby87: I suppose it could be. I've had trouble with it before. but I'm far from expert in network stuff
[17:35] <abby87> newk: so its a prob wth ur service provider ?
[17:35] <mefisto__> newk: sorry for asking the obvious, but are all your cables, etc plugged in ok?
[17:35] <laci__> compiz says "engine is installed on your system"
[17:35] <newk> abby87: wel i dont get it .. im using this laptop to talk on the same service provider... the same router lik
[17:36] <newk> mefisto__: thats wat i was thinkin for a second but they are yeah
[17:36] <abby87> newk: but its not working on windows xp u said...is ur interface card working?
[17:36] <abby87> newk: on windows try ping 127.0.0.1
[17:36] <laci__> i can change effects level, but when i click apply nothing happens
[17:37] <abby87> newk: if u dont get reply then ur ethernet card maybe at fault
[17:37] <afeijo> hi folks, I lost my toolbar on my kde3, how to restore?
[17:37] <newk> abby87: im gettin a replky
[17:37] <fumanchu182> afeijo: do you mean your panel menu at the bottom?
[17:37] <afeijo> yes
[17:38] <mefisto__> newk: try doing a shutdown, leave it powered off for a few seconds, then start up again. maybe your ethernet hardware is playing games with you
[17:38] <fumanchu182> did you delete it?
[17:38] <abby87> newk: try ipconfig/all on windows ..does it show 0.0.0.0 ?
[17:38] <fumanchu182> or move it?
[17:39] <fumanchu182> afeijo: ?
[17:39] <DreamCaster> OMG 8.04 is really different from 7th edition
[17:39] <fumanchu182> DreamCaster: this is my first time using 8.04
[17:39] <fumanchu182> it is spiffy
[17:39] <newk> abby87: no it shows a ip address 169.254.
[17:39] <newk> thtas
[17:39] <newk> not
[17:39] <newk> the rite
[17:39] <newk> ips
[17:39] <newk> abby87: tho lik its usually 192.168.blah.blah
[17:39] <abby87> newk:but no connection
[17:39] <abby87> newk: ?
[17:39] <newk> abby87: none
[17:40] <abby87> newk: so its ur h/w at fault
[17:40] <afeijo> fumanchu182: I reply: yes
[17:40] <abby87> newk: if it doesnt work on windows and on linux then its h/w
[17:40] <newk> abby87: i knew it didnt seem rite for linux to do something lik that :)
[17:40] <mefisto__> newk: try powering off, wait, then start up again.
[17:40] <amerigo> ! vista
[17:41] <fumanchu182> that ip range 168.254 is a special range
[17:41] <newk> mefisto__: doin that now... thanks again ...
[17:41] <fumanchu182> it means your dhcp is messed up
[17:41] <newk> fumanchu182: oh brilliant......
[17:41] <fumanchu182> afeijo: did you delete it or move it? you can't reply yes to both...
[17:42] <afeijo> fumanchu182: oh, those was to me.  I did nothing, no delete nor move, maybe some accident click but I'm not that stupid lol
[17:42] <afeijo> I rebooted already
[17:42] <fumanchu182> did it come back?
[17:42] <afeijo> no
[17:42] <afeijo> I use autohide
[17:42] <fumanchu182> okay what i would lik eyou to do is right click on your desktop
[17:43] <fumanchu182> and click configure desktop
[17:43] <newk> mefisto: do i wait for ages or wat?
[17:43] <afeijo> fumanchu182: ok
[17:43] <fumanchu182> oh wait
[17:43] <fumanchu182> in 3.5.9 you can't get ot your panels tha way
[17:43] <fumanchu182> eww
[17:43] <afeijo> alt+space and what prog?
[17:43] <afeijo> or alt+f2 ?
[17:43] <fumanchu182> trying to remember hold on
[17:44] <afeijo> in kde4 is plasma
[17:44] <fumanchu182> are you on kde4?
[17:44] <fumanchu182> i am on 3..59
[17:44] <afeijo> no, 3
[17:44] <DreamCaster> ermm how can i add repositories in new kubuntu version?
[17:44] <afeijo> I have 4 but stop using for some bugs I found
[17:44] <mefisto__> do you want to start the panel?
[17:45] <fumanchu182> use kicker
[17:45] <fumanchu182> alt+ft
[17:45] <fumanchu182> alt+f2->kicker
[17:45] <mefisto__> alt+f2, kicker
[17:45] <fumanchu182> thanks mefisto__
[17:45] <fumanchu182> my typing is less than stellar, i just woke up to ubuntu telling me it was finished installing :)
[17:46] <abby87> DreamCaster: open /etc/apt/sources.list in ur favourite text editor
[17:46] <abby87> DreamCaster: u must have root/sudo privilages to do that
[17:47] <fumanchu182> so i have an alias in a bash rc file that i use from my old suse distro
[17:47] <afeijo> I heard a sound, thats all with kicker
[17:47] <fumanchu182> hold on
[17:47] <newk> mefisto__: not workin after shutdown
[17:47] <DreamCaster> abby87 thanks a lot :)
[17:48] <abby87> DreamCaster: ;)
[17:48] <amerigo>  ! windows in italiano
[17:48] <Dr_willis> !it
[17:49] <mefisto__> newk: the only other thing I can think of is try the ethernet cable to the working one (laptop?) in the non-working one. might just be a bad cable. It's not impossible
[17:49] <fumanchu182> afeijo: alt+ft, konsole
[17:49] <abby87> newk: try asking ur service provider...or try it again with a spare ethernet card
[17:49] <abby87> newk: better first try with a spare ethernet card
[17:50] <newk> abby87, mefisto__: thanks very much for all the help ... appreciated
[17:50] <abby87> newk: ;-0
[17:50] <afeijo> ok
[17:50] <afeijo> konsole open
[17:50] <abby87> newk: sorry wrong one ;0
[17:50] <mefisto__> at least network cards are cheap to replace
[17:50] <abby87> :)
[17:50] <fumanchu182> run kicker
[17:50] <fumanchu182> you should get an error
[17:50] <fumanchu182> saying it is already running
[17:51] <abby87> is there any keyboard shortcut for kickoff(kde4.1)?
[17:51] <afeijo> yes, kill it?
[17:51] <fumanchu182> no
[17:51] <fumanchu182> i think you have a Hidden=true in your kde config file
[17:51] <fumanchu182> i am just tyring to remember which one has that setting
[17:52] <afeijo> hmm
[17:52] <fumanchu182> it is a little different from my open suse 11.0 distro and i have been on this thing for about all of an hour :)
[17:52] <fumanchu182> "/home/anthony/.kde/share/autostart/
[17:52] <fumanchu182> hit that directory
[17:52] <fumanchu182> but obviously but your username where "anthony" is
[17:52] <fumanchu182> s/anthony/yourusername/g
[17:53] <afeijo> I dont have autostart dir
[17:53] <fumanchu182> hmm odd
[17:53] <fumanchu182> you do have a .kde directory right?
[17:53] <afeijo> it has applnk, apps, config, locale, mimelnk, services, servicetypes, wallpapers
[17:53] <fumanchu182> go into config
[17:53] <afeijo> I'm at /home/feijo/.kde/share
[17:53] <afeijo> lots of file at config
[17:54] <fumanchu182> vim kickerrc
[17:54] <afeijo> ok, I use nano
[17:54] <afeijo> autohidedelay=0
[17:54] <fumanchu182> well that
[17:54] <mefisto__> afeijo: /home/feijo/.kde/Autostart     uppercase A
[17:54] <afeijo> autohidepanel=true
[17:54] <fumanchu182> set it to false
[17:55] <fumanchu182> then restart your x session
[17:55] <afeijo> autohideswitch=true, keep that?
[17:55] <fumanchu182> no
[17:55] <fumanchu182> well yes
[17:55] <fumanchu182> but don't deit
[17:55] <fumanchu182> but don't save
[17:55] <fumanchu182> i want you do to this
[17:55] <fumanchu182> get out of nano
[17:55] <fumanchu182> cp kickerrc kickerrc.back
[17:55] <fumanchu182> just in case
[17:55] <fumanchu182> :)
[17:55] <newk> abby87, mefisto__: workin:):):):)
[17:55] <afeijo> ok
[17:56] <fumanchu182> i just have  rule of thumb that if i am messing with settings files i do a quick backup
[17:56] <afeijo> mefisto__: no existent
[17:56] <fumanchu182> what is 4 seconds of typing compared to half and hour of more or headacches
[17:56] <afeijo> to reestart x I logoff and logon?
[17:56] <fumanchu182> yeah or hit alt+ctr+delete
[17:56] <afeijo> its not windows! lol
[17:56] <fumanchu182> but you can't logoff w/o your kicker right?
[17:57] <fumanchu182> alt+Ctr+del resets x sessions
[17:57] <fumanchu182> err backspace
[17:57] <fumanchu182> alt+ctrl+bksp
[17:57] <mefisto__> you can also right-click desktop to log off
[17:57] <fumanchu182> eh yeah
[17:57] <fumanchu182> never noticed it
[17:58] <fumanchu182> i don't do much right clicking on my desktop
[17:58] <fumanchu182> i do have to say that i love that in this kde setup on ubuntu you can get to things very easily
[17:58] <fumanchu182> but it is quite odd not being able to su to do thiings
[17:58] <fumanchu182> nas200
[17:58] <fumanchu182> err
[17:58] <fumanchu182> wrong window
[17:59] <laci__> Im a newbie and downloaded the latest ATI driver for linux  "ati-driver-installer-8-7-x86.x86_64.run". Now whats next?
[18:00] <fumanchu182> afeijo did kicker come back?
[18:00] <afeijo> it worked, thanks fumanchu182
[18:00] <mefisto__> fumanchu182: you can sudo su if you really need to be root
[18:00] <afeijo> I have my bottom panel, yes
[18:00] <afeijo> bye :)
[18:00] <fumanchu182> enjoy afeijo
[18:00] <fumanchu182> ah so is that how it works
[18:01] <hug0> hey dudes!
[18:01] <hug0> all right
[18:01] <mefisto__> but normally just sudo ...commands ...
[18:01] <hug0> \sudo kick all
[18:01] <fumanchu182> mefisto__: well i am having problems mounting a cifs system
[18:01] <hug0> :P
[18:01] <fumanchu182> are you familiar with mount and cifs
[18:01] <laci__> what can I do with files with .run extension?
[18:02] <mefisto__> fumanchu182: not too much but just ask away, see if someone has an answer
[18:02] <fumanchu182> well lemme paste the command so people can pick it apart
[18:02] <fumanchu182> sudo mount -o user=anthony //192.168.1.5/anthony /media/nas200/
[18:03] <fumanchu182> nas200 does exist
[18:03] <hug0> Question: migrate from kubuntu 6.XX to Kubuntu 8.04.1.... how does ist work?
[18:03] <fumanchu182> and that is the ip of the nas
[18:03] <hug0> is it enough to copy the /home dir to a ext. drive?
[18:03] <mefisto__> laci__: you run them.    type ./executable-file.run
[18:03] <hug0> or is there enything more to do?
[18:03] <fumanchu182> i get the following errors
[18:03] <hug0> ...thunderbird mails & extenios needed
[18:04] <hug0> i get no erros oOO
[18:04] <DreamCaster> ermm help again please
[18:04] <hug0> y
[18:04] <fumanchu182> mount: block device //192.168.1.5/anthony is write-protected, mounting read-only
[18:04] <fumanchu182> mount: cannot mount block device //192.168.1.5/anthony read-only
[18:04] <newk> wat is the command for adept updater
[18:04] <hug0> apt-get update
[18:04] <hug0> or upgrade do download the updates as well
[18:04] <DreamCaster> i cannot get access to file:///etc/apt/sources.list
[18:04] <hug0> bad
[18:04] <DreamCaster> i cannot modify and save it
[18:04] <hug0> sudo?!
[18:05] <fumanchu182> i was about to say sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:05] <mefisto__> adept_updater
[18:05] <bazhang> DreamCaster, via nautilus?
[18:05] <bazhang> err konqueror?
[18:05] <hug0> bye dudes
[18:06] <bazhang> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list DreamCaster
[18:06] <DreamCaster> bazhang it worked thanks :)
[18:06] <Fieldy> hello, I installed googleearth-package however i'm not sure what to do from here to actually get it installed. any tips?
[18:07] <bazhang> np :)
[18:07] <DreamCaster> sorry thati am noob but i just dled the new version and i had to use them really really long
[18:07] <bazhang> Fieldy, dl'd from where
[18:07] <Fieldy> bazhang: installed through adept
[18:08] <Fieldy> it says it makes a package i then need to install but I don't see where it put it
[18:09] <DreamCaster> is it proper to install synaptic in Kubuntu 8.04?
[18:09] <bazhang> Fieldy, what about alt f2 googleearth-package
[18:09] <bazhang> DreamCaster, sure if you wish
[18:09] <climatewarrior> yep
[18:10] <Fieldy> bazhang: no go but i just discovered it installed a binary called make-googleearth-package which is downloading what's needed now (though very slowly)
[18:11] <bazhang> Fieldy, ah sorry, dont have it and was just guessing
[18:11] <mefisto__> googleearth is in medibuntu repos
[18:11] <DreamCaster> baz tip on adding repositories plz
[18:11] <bazhang> !medibuntu
[18:11] <Fieldy> i'll wait and see what this does, i'm guessing it makes a package that i can install... quite a wait though, 15KB/s download...
[18:11] <bazhang> DreamCaster, which repo
[18:12] <Fieldy> ah, thank you mefisto__ and bazhang
[18:12] <bazhang> medibuntu need to add the repo though iirc
[18:13] <fumanchu182> anyone know anything about using an external hdtv over vga @ 1360X768, I can use that as my primary and get that resolution but if i try to do dual screen the highest resolution is my laptop display at 1280x800
[18:14] <mefisto__> you can add medibuntu to repos, or download individual .deb files from their site if preferred (but you won't get automatic updates without the repos)
[18:16] <Fieldy> understood. thanks. i'm just waiting to see what happens doing it this way, just a very slow download
[18:18] <amerigo> !games
[18:20] <DreamCaster> how do i add medibuntu repos?
[18:21] <DreamCaster> <----- linux rookie
[18:22] <bazhang> DreamCaster, go to the site and follow the instructions there: www.medibuntu.org
[18:23] <bazhang> DreamCaster, you can just copy and paste the commands into the terminal (konsole)
[18:23] <DreamCaster> thanks once again :)
[18:23] <DreamCaster> i owe you a drink
[18:24] <bazhang> :)
[18:26] <DreamCaster> bazhang any idea how to install w32codecs? cause sudo apt-get install w32codecs gives me error
[18:26] <bazhang> DreamCaster, did you get the repos yet?
[18:26] <DreamCaster> yes
[18:26] <bazhang> DreamCaster, then first sudo apt-get update
[18:27] <bazhang> DreamCaster, now try after doing that
[18:27] <DreamCaster> bazhang packet is missing or it is really old
[18:28] <DreamCaster> bazhang this is what i get
[18:28] <bazhang> DreamCaster, you only want that one file? along with libdvdcss2?
[18:28] <bazhang> err package
[18:28] <DreamCaster> yep
[18:30] <bazhang> DreamCaster, then scroll to the bottom of the page and look how to install the debs
[18:31] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | DreamCaster
[18:31] <DreamCaster> bazhang thanks it is working
[18:32] <bazhang> DreamCaster, nicely done :)
[18:35] <Accidus> Is there a TeXlive 2008 package on the Adept package manager?
[18:36] <cyberwulf> Is there anyone here speaking Indonesian?
[18:36] <bazhang> !id
[18:36] <bazhang> cyberwulf, ^^
[18:36] <cyberwulf> nyasar
[18:37] <mefisto__> Accidus: apt-cache search texlive          or just search in adept if you already have it open
[18:38] <cyberwulf> only three Indonesians here?
[18:39] <Accidus> Well, it has texlive, but not the new 2008 (beta) release
[18:46] <sourcemaker> !search home entertainment system
[18:46] <bazhang> !info mediatomb
[18:46] <Dentharg> hi
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[18:46] <Dentharg> anyone here using kde4.1 and have SB Audigy soundcard?
[18:46] <BigBuddha> hey guys, for some reason when i am logged into kubuntu now, my fans stay on. They will not turm off, but in vista they run fine. also, my pc will freeze, no response until i manually shut it down.
[18:47] <sourcemaker> !search DVD
[18:47] <sourcemaker> !search media player
[18:47] <Dentharg> !search audigy
[18:48] <bazhang> sourcemaker /msg ubottu dvd  and players
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> BigBuddha: is it a laptop?
[18:48] <BigBuddha> ActionParsnip: no it is a desktop
[18:48] <sourcemaker> ubottu dvd  and players
[18:48] <Dentharg> bazhang: thx for the tip!
[18:49] <sourcemaker> !search dvd  and players
[18:49] <bazhang> sourcemaker, you need to /msg
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> BigBuddha: ok maybe theres a patch for your motherboard or maybe theres some config you need to add
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> BigBuddha: is it a store bought system or self built
[18:49] <BigBuddha> ActionParsnip: if thats the case i will need a little help if you can?
[18:49] <bazhang> sourcemaker, that is not the right command and you should do it in private message; the syntax is /msg ubottu info package
[18:50] <BigBuddha> ActionParsnip: it is retail
[18:50] <sourcemaker> bazhang:  ok thanks :-)
[18:50] <BigBuddha> ActionParsnip: do you want the brand/model?
[18:50] <bazhang> sourcemaker, also try /msg ubottu find related term
[18:50] <bazhang> Dentharg, np :)
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> BigBuddha: sure
[18:51] <BigBuddha> ActionParsnip: Gateway GT5662
[19:01] <miffed> I have a script which pops up a passive message box using kdialog, works fine when manually run but if run as a kcron job the script runs and does what it supposed to but the kdialog box does not pop up,
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> miffed: is the script chmodded to executable
[19:02] <miffed> yup it executable
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> miffed: is the file owned by you
[19:02] <miffed> it runs if I choose manually run in kron and message box pops up but when run as a kron job it does not pop up
[19:02] <miffed> yes I own the file
[19:03] <DreamCaster> i used this sudo apt-get install compiz-fusion-bcop to install  Compiz fusion any idea how i use it?
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> !compiz | DreamCaster
[19:04] <mefisto__> miffed: the message box is a X window, yes?
[19:05] <DreamCaster> ty ty
[19:05] <_CrashMaster_> I thought KRON was supposed to run in the background, not interacting with the user.
[19:05] <miffed> if kdialoge is considered a X window I am not sure
[19:06] <miffed> kdialog --title "GREAT" --passivepopup "files synced " 10
[19:06] <miffed> pops up a little speech bubble for 10 seconds
[19:06] <mefisto__> miffed: try putting this before the command in Kcron: export DISPLAY=:0 &&
[19:09] <mefisto__> miffed: also, don't forget to save after making changes in Kcron
[19:14] <miffed> mefisto__: in the program section like : export DISPLAY=:0 && /home/test/Documents/scripts/./unisonsync
[19:16] <mefisto__> miffed: yes, but what is with the /./  ?? does "/home/test/Documents/scripts/./unisonsync" work as a command with the /./ in there?
[19:17] <DreamCaster> !firefox
[19:17] <miffed> well as unison is a executable i have always ended the path as ./nameofscript
[19:19] <mefisto__> miffed: if it works in konsole that way, that's fine. I just thought the extra ./ wouldn't be necessary if you're giving the full path
[19:20] <miffed> mefisto__: I have no idea I just got used to doing it that way and not been a problem so far
[19:20] <mefisto__> ok
[19:23] <vincenzo_> salve
[19:24] <vincenzo_> !list
[19:26] <arrrghhh> how can i add a rule in firestarter to allow all lan clients?
[19:29] <ced_> hey actionparsnip, long time no see..
[19:31] <ced_> brb guys..
[19:31] <miffed> mefisto__: thanks, adding export DISPLAY=:0 && did the trick,
[19:32] <miffed> mefisto__: could you give me a brief idea why it was failing previously?
[19:37] <mefisto__> miffed: all I know is that if it's a program that needs to be displayed in X, you need the export. the :0 is the default display
[19:38] <mefisto__> it really should be a checkbox or something in Kcron's gui
[19:38] <miffed> mefisto__: strange then that it showed correctly when run manually but not in the background untill that option was added
[19:38] <ulusoy> slm
[19:41] <miffed> if I run this in terminal it pops up the box with no need to export>    kdialog --title "Warning" --passivepopup "files not synced " 10
[19:41] <mefisto__> miffed: I don't really understand it either. I found out about the export thing by googling, but don't know what the "export" command does
[19:42] <nickname034> hey, how are you?
[19:44] <frloja> tem alguem do brazil?
[19:44] <nickname034> i'm observing some "crazy movements" into adept ......... when i ask for the installation of mozilla 3, in the screen appears "break (install)" with red colour, instead of "install", any idea ?
[19:44] <ced_> maybe you got incompatible extensions?
[19:44] <nickname034> and the same trying to install eclipse ........
[19:44] <lee-roy> hi how can i use this irc client with firefox url links in gnome
[19:45] <lee-roy> ??
[19:45] <ced_> i had that when i tried to install both XMMS1 and 2
[19:45] <mefisto__> miffed: I think I found out about it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185993  there's a bit of explanation in that thread
[19:45] <ced_> so it's probably a incompatability issue.
[19:45] <nickname034> oh
[19:46] <nickname034> thanks for the info, it's good to see i'm not the unic human with the problem haha
[19:46] <ced_> :)
[19:46] <nickname034> okey, i'm going to look about, thanks for the info
[19:46] <ced_> np, good luck!
[19:46] <nickname034> possibly, i will need it ;)
[19:46] <ced_> ^_^
[19:47] <sinu> tasting kubuntu and an irc channel for the first time
[19:49] <jpds> !hi | sinu
[19:49] <brmassa> guys, i just bought a new HDD. how can i clone the old HDD into this new one. I dont want to plain-copy because all files will get a new created/changed tag.
[19:49] <brmassa> ?
[19:50] <sinu> hi all.. atlast got the dialup modem working in kubuntu
[19:52] <mefisto__> brmassa: I think something like: dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb      if sda is the old disk and sdb is the new one
[19:52] <brmassa> mefisto__: man... i love you! hehe thanks
[19:53] <mefisto__> brmassa: check "man dd" first to make sure I got that right
[19:53] <mefisto__> brmassa: that will only work if the new disk is larger than the old one
[19:53] <mefisto__> or same size
[19:54] <brmassa> mefisto__: thats the reason i got a new one!
[19:54] <mefisto__> brmassa: actually, you might need to do this when the old disk is not mounted.
[19:55] <mefisto__> brmassa: so if you're running from the old one now, you could do it from livecd
[19:55] <brmassa> mefisto__: hmmm ok.
[19:55] <brmassa> mefisto__: the new one should be formated before?
[19:56] <mefisto__> brmassa: if you use the dd command, everything will be copied, all partitions, files, everything
[19:56] <masteredu> Hello
[19:57] <masteredu> can anyone say me how can i update kde 4.0 to 4.1 with konsole
[19:57] <brmassa> mefisto__: so 1* it will overwrite any data from the "of" 2* i will need to resize the partition later?
[19:57] <brmassa> mefisto__: right?
[19:58] <masteredu> can anyone help me?
[19:59] <mefisto__> brmassa: yes, or you could create new partitions in the unused space instead of growing the partitions you have
[20:00] <brmassa> mefisto__: why? is there an advantage on multi-small partitions over a single-big one?
[20:01] <brmassa> mefisto__: real figures are: old HD: 40gb, new HDD = 160gb (i dont know if matters)
[20:02] <broken> masteredu: I imagine all you need to do is add the 4.1 repo and dist-upgrade
[20:03] <mefisto__> brmassa: first, linux normally uses more than one partition. it's common to have a separate partition for /home, to hold program settings and kde config, and your own data. That way when you need to reinstall or upgrade, your data and settings stay safe on their own partition
[20:03] <broken> update first XD
[20:03] <masteredu> hm
[20:03] <masteredu> ok
[20:04] <masteredu> oh it says 65 packes are avaible
[20:04] <masteredu> you think this is kde 4.1?
[20:04] <masteredu> its 144 mb big
[20:04] <broken> Probably, if you've added the repo on the website.
[20:04] <masteredu> "avaible"
[20:04] <masteredu> hm
[20:04] <brmassa> mefisto__: yes yes. but these HDD are the data ones. the linux programs are in another one.
[20:04] <masteredu> why all use gnome
[20:04] <masteredu> maybe becouse it is stable?
[20:07] <mefisto__> brmassa: ok, then one big partition if you want. you might want other partitions if you want eg FAT32 filesystem for compatibility with other OS
[20:08] <brmassa> mefisto__: i see. well... its time for some work. again, thanks
[20:10] <aswin> hi in the add widget screen i dont find the widget i downloaded from the kdelook
[20:10] <aswin> can someone help me out
[20:11] <mefisto__> aswin: kde4?
[20:11] <aswin> yes mefisto
[20:12] <aswin> kde 4
[20:12] <Pliskin> use knewstuff
[20:12] <mefisto__> I was wondering that too. have you tried in #kubuntu-kde4 ?
[20:12] <aswin> ok thanks
[20:13] <miffed> If I right click copy a file or folder then close the window I copied it from, (dolphin or konquoror) then when try to right click paste onto desktop or anywhere else for that matter it does not work, only when I keep the window open I copied from will it paste, is this a feature or a bug ?
[20:14] <miffed> mefisto__: thanx for link it clarifies earlier my issue
[20:14] <stragee> what's the best way to install themes these days?
[20:16] <stragee> i can't seem to find a way to install dekorator, and there doesn't seem to be a way to import kde themes natively
[20:16] <mefisto__> miffed: np. and I just tried to copy from dolphin, closed dolphin, pasted on desktop. it works fine for me
[20:18] <miffed> hmm I have the same problem with my desktop and laptop,
[20:18] <senorpedro> hi folks
[20:18] <stragee> seems like kubuntu is twice as hard to theme as ubuntu
[20:18] <senorpedro> i installed kde4 but it is very slow
[20:19] <senorpedro> i heard that there are issues when using nvidia cards
[20:19] <senorpedro> does anybody know how i can make kde4 fast even though using a nvidia card?
[20:19] <senorpedro> and yes, i would like to have desktop effects enabled
[20:20] <miffed> stragee: dont know if this is what your after but in control centre/appearance and themes/theme manager and options to get new themes add etc
[20:21] <stragee> miffed: is that under appearance in system settings?
[20:21] <senorpedro> !kde4 nvidia
[20:21] <miffed> yup in system settings appearence and themes
[20:22] <stragee> miffed: yeh i'm in appearance, then i goto window decorations, but don't see any way to import
[20:22] <stragee> or i tried style too
[20:22] <stragee> "icons" seems to be the only place that allows me to import
[20:23] <miffed> you using the theme manager it has import there for styles etc
[20:23] <stragee> miffed: does theme manager come with kubuntu by default?
[20:24] <senorpedro> how can i determine the exact name of the graphic card in my computer?
[20:24] <senorpedro> without opening the case
[20:25] <Pliskin> lspci
[20:25] <Pliskin> or KInfoCenter ?
[20:25] <stragee> miffed: i don't think i'm using theme manager, how do i use that?
[20:26] <emons> hi guys is there anybody with good network skills?
[20:27] <juandiego> hey
[20:28] <emons> nobody?
[20:28] <stragee> what are you trying to do emons?
[20:28] <juandiego> i'd like to ask if anyone can provide some help about the infamous broadcom wifi
[20:29] <emons> hi stragee
[20:29] <Pliskin> juandiego : there is a package
[20:29] <emons> the thing is my high speed internet connection its going slower than ever, i already tried with ipv6 and stuff but nothing changed
[20:30] <Pliskin> bcm43xx-fwcutter, it works for some cards
[20:30] <juandiego> i've followed many tutorials, but something goes wrong every time, im not the smartest kubuntu user you know
[20:30] <xp> .
[20:30] <stragee> emons: what type of connection do you have, and are you connect via hardline or wifi
[20:31] <juandiego> ok i'll look into that
[20:31] <emons> few days ago Agent_bob was helping me analyzing my connection files (he told me to run some commands in a terminal and pastebin the results which i did) in the end i seem to have some prob with my connection but dunno what, he had to go and me either so we didn't finish it
[20:31] <emons> alright i have an adsl high speed and connected via wifi
[20:32] <emons> there's a hag connected to a modem and the modem is connected to a wifi router which is 5 metres away from my airport
[20:32] <juandiego> but actually my knetwork manager already detects some of the wifi connections
[20:32] <juandiego> its just that it never makes a succesful connection with any of them
[20:32] <stragee> emons: do you have the option to test it using a ethernet cable?
[20:33] <emons> (weirdly it says i only have 50 % reception which is impossible first because its too close second because on xp was going superfast and the reception was always 100%)
[20:34] <stragee> emons: it sounds like the driver you are using for your wifi card is generic
[20:34] <emons> the weird thing that they made me notice is that when i first install kubuntu hardy it set everything by itself i didnt set anything i was only able to get connected automatically without setting anything
[20:34] <emons> yes i think so stragee
[20:34] <stragee> you may try searching for an alternative driver, also play with different encryption methods
[20:35] <stragee> if you get 100% speed with no encryption, then you know it's a driver problem
[20:36] <emons> i have no encryption, not even a wap or wep nothing
[20:36] <emons> im a newbie here and i dunno how to set anything :D
[20:37] <snarkster> emons what did you change?
[20:37] <emons> nothing
[20:37] <emons> here's the thing
[20:37] <snarkster> emons when did you notice a slow down?
[20:37] <emons> i didnt touch it
[20:37] <emons> like one week ago
[20:37] <emons> and during this time i only installed some plugins
[20:37] <snarkster> well something had to have changed somewhere for it to dramatically change like that.
[20:37] <KDesk> with one is better in kde, mplayer or xine?
[20:37] <emons> u no like flash, java
[20:37] <stragee> i'll let snarkster take over ;) i've gotta restart X
[20:38] <stragee> g'luck emons
[20:38] <emons> alright stragee
[20:38] <emons> thank u
[20:38] <emons> ;)
[20:38] <snarkster> stragee I didnt want to intrude.. lol
[20:38] <emons> -_-
[20:38] <emons> lol
[20:38] <snarkster> ok so you are useing knetwork manager>
[20:38] <emons> yes
[20:39] <snarkster> ok I use a belkin usb wireless G that I bought at walmart for 36 bucks.. worked right out of the box with no tweaking
[20:39] <ced_> :O lucky bastard
[20:39] <ced_> *guy
[20:39] <emons> ivegot a lynksys
[20:39] <snarkster> I use gnomes network manager as knetwork manager has some vpn issues,
[20:40] <snarkster> Yah I had a netgear pcmcia that had to use ndiswrapper and one day it just stopped working for no reason
[20:40] <snarkster> actually it locked up the laptop
[20:41] <snarkster> you have no security what so ever on your wifi
[20:41] <ced_> weird, well windows drivers in linux are mostly bugged so its not a surprise...
[20:41] <SAngeli> I have to migrate from kmail (Linux - kubuntu) to Windows Vista, mail application. Can someone please advice me how to move my kmail emails into Vista mail?
[20:41] <snarkster> SAngeli: Youll have to do a google search for that.. I dont think there are many vista users in here
[20:41] <emons> ivegot no security now cuz i thought that might be the prob so i took it away
[20:42] <SAngeli> snarkster, thank you. Could you please advice some valid key words?
[20:42] <snarkster> emons ok and what is your current speed?
[20:42] <snarkster> SAngeli: migrate kmail to vista
[20:42] <SAngeli> thank you
[20:42] <snarkster> welcome
[20:43] <snarkster> emons what is your current speed??
[20:43] <emons> 2400
[20:43] <emons> tested on a speedometer
[20:43] <snarkster> do you have a cordless phone, microwave, tesla coil between you and the wifi access point?
[20:43] <ced_> brb, gotta reinstall the network here (arg i hate those old sitecom routers -.-'') cya guys..
[20:44] <emons> nope
[20:44] <emons> no phones in the house
[20:44] <snarkster> anything that gives off any kind of radiation will effect a wifi connection
[20:44] <Pliskin> juandiego : so your card is already recognised
[20:44] <emons> nothing
[20:44] <snarkster> where is your cell phone?
[20:45] <mefisto__> I hate when I forget to turn off my tesla coil and fall asleep
[20:45] <snarkster> and you are currently connected via wifi with 50% strength
[20:45] <snarkster> mefisto: yah me to.. keeps the damn lights on then i wake up with a headache
[20:46] <emons> my cellphone is here
[20:47] <snarkster> ok well that thing gives off tons of microwaves.  so be sure to keep it out of the line of sight of the router.
[20:47] <emons> and im currently connected with 50%
[20:48] <snarkster> are you noticing any slow downs?? transfer rates are slow or something?
[20:48] <emons> everything is slow though
[20:48] <snarkster> is this a G wifi or a B/G wifi device
[20:48] <emons> look, i just pinged www.google.it and look my statistics
[20:48] <emons> 29 packets transmitted, 15 received, 48% packet loss, time 64247ms
[20:48] <emons> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 37.005/102.662/861.818/203.020 ms
[20:48] <emons> 48% loss its allot isnt it?
[20:49] <snarkster> ok well dont get snippy with me Im trying to assist you. L)
[20:49] <snarkster> oh yes but thats packet dropping
[20:49] <snarkster> could be that your router is chirping or you network card is chirping.
[20:49] <snarkster> chattering i mean..
[20:50] <snarkster> if you boot into XP right now youll hit 100%
[20:50] <KDesk> I have a problem, in Firefox when I download a zip file, and will open it, firefox opens okular, how can I fix  this?
[20:50] <snarkster> wow.. I dont get it.. are you using ndiswrapper?
[20:51] <juandiego> Pliskin: I guess somethings working, but still i cannot connect
[20:52] <mefisto__> KDesk: in firefox preferences, applications, search for "zip" and choose what action you want
[20:52] <KDesk> mefisto__: but that dialog is empty... :(
[20:53] <emons> no sorry snarkster i didnt mean it, of course i appreciate ur help
[20:53] <snarkster> i know you do.. its cool.
[20:53] <snarkster> if yo move closer to the router does it get stronger?
[20:54] <KDesk> im also using mozplugger, but without mozplugger i got the same behavior.
[20:55] <mefisto__> KDesk: there is a solution for the empty applications list. I just don't remember what it is
[20:56] <emons> the thing is its a desktop i cant move it at all its in a desk in a shelfed piece of furniture
[20:56] <KDesk> mefisto__: oh :D I will ask google, is this a common issue in kde or with the linux build in genereal?
[20:57] <mefisto__> KDesk: try installing firefox-gnome-support
[20:57] <KDesk> mefisto__:  firefox-gnome-support in kde?
[20:58] <mefisto__> KDesk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/220504
[20:58] <snarkster> oh i thought you were using a laptop.. im sorry..
[20:59] <snarkster> emons dude I got nothing more.. it shouldnt do that thats for sure..
[20:59] <snarkster> are you sure you didnt update soemthing??
[21:00] <emons> everytime it says it has something to update i let it do it
[21:00] <emons> is that wrong?
[21:00] <snarkster> oh no
[21:01] <snarkster> but that might be were your problem came from..
[21:01] <snarkster> you updated and it changed how the nm works
[21:02] <emons> hey snarkster i just pinged my router and thats what i found
[21:02] <emons> 91 packets transmitted, 43 received, 52% packet loss, time 90034ms
[21:02] <emons> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.850/3.844/25.098/5.927 ms
[21:02] <emons> 52% of the packets its lost, that means ivegot a wifi prob aint i?
[21:03] <timo> hi all, does anyone know where I can download a keyboard driver for my laptop?
[21:04] <timo> the volume keys are not working properly (a single press is processed as a double press)
[21:04] <timo> running KDE 4.1
[21:05] <timo> the laptop is an Asus
[21:05] <snarkster> emons yup thats what it means.
[21:06] <snarkster> sorry emons I can do no more.. as it doesnt make sense as to what the problem is.
[21:07] <emons> sorry? what u mean?
[21:11] <KDesk> mefisto__: it is a bug in firefox https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409192
[21:12] <alinon> for some reason the kdm theme manager isn't working with hardy - anyone know of a fix?
[21:15] <timo> my laptop keyboard interprets a single press on the mute button as two presses... any ideas how I can fix this?
[21:16] <timo> alinon: you can just edit the configuration file yourself...
[21:16] <timo> alinon: thats what I did
[21:17] <alinon> timo: you mean usetheme=true and theme=/usr etc
[21:17] <timo> alinon: what exactly do you want to change?
[21:18] <alinon> timo: i'm wanting to use the theme i picked up from kde-look.org
[21:18] <timo> alinon: ah, i se
[21:19] <alinon> i'm wondering if cssm or emerald is conflicting with it
[21:20] <alinon> timo: when i first started i was going to use a compiz theme, and it worked for a while, now it's not working and neither is kdm theme manager heh
[21:20] <timo> alinon: does it give an error or anything?
[21:21] <timo> alinon: what does it say when you install a new theme?
[21:21] <alinon> timo: not at all, the themes just don't get applied even after i hit the "apply" button...i've also tried restarting X but still no joy
[21:21] <alinon> it acts as though the theme is being used, but visually i see no difference
[21:22] <timo> alinon: ok. perhaps you should try editing the configuration file yourself then?
[21:22] <alinon> timo: where is the config file located? i think i may have tried this already
[21:23] <timo> alinon: check /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc
[21:23] <alinon> yeh, that's the one
[21:24] <alinon> timo: i changed it so that "usetheme=true" is active
[21:24] <mefisto__> what type of theme are we talking about? kdm is the login screen you see before login
[21:24] <timo> alinon: perhaps this one then: ?
[21:24] <timo> nano /etc/default/kdm.d/20_kubuntu_default_settings
[21:25] <alinon> mefisto: i didn't realize it only effected the login, but either way it login hasn't changed either heh
[21:25] <timo> alinon: what does the default setting file say?
[21:26] <alinon> timo: i changed it to Theme=/usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/true-nature
[21:26] <alinon> and it's set to kdm in the config file
[21:27] <timo> alinon: and I presume you've set "UseTheme=true" and "Theme=/usr/share/apps/...../true-nature" also in the kdmrc?
[21:27] <alinon> timo: yep yep
[21:28] <Guest2638> is there any chance of this chat to go to IRCd?
[21:28] <timo> alinon: then I'm afraid I can't help you either... that's all I know
[21:29] <alinon> timo: well aside from the login theme, what the best way in kubuntu to change the window theme?
[21:29] <alinon> i heard dekorator is still the best?
[21:29] <timo> alinon: I'd use emerald
[21:29] <alinon> blah, i'm trying to use emerald heh
[21:30] <timo> alinon: but I'm not familiar with dekorator...
[21:30] <alinon> i have the compiz fusion icon, but it doesn't seem to be helping
[21:30] <timo> alinon: is compiz fusion working?
[21:30] <timo> alinon: the desktop cube and all?
[21:31] <alinon> timo: i can set the desktop effects to extra, but when i select an emerald theme nothing happens
[21:32] <alinon> timo: it was working when i first set this up
[21:32] <timo> alinon: perhaps you should start over then
[21:33] <timo> alinon: and carefully write down every step along the way
[21:33] <alinon> timo: i used to know a command, like replace --compiz or something
[21:33] <timo> alinon: hopefully you won't end up the same way then
[21:33] <timo> alinon: yep, that's the one
[21:33] <mizipzor> i get the error "configure.in:8: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_PROG_LIBTOOL If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. See the Autoconf documentation." in kdevelop... any ideas on how to solve it?
[21:33] <Guest2638> !compiz
[21:34] <alinon> hah it's saying i need mysql to perform that operation
[21:35] <alinon> about the only difference that i've found that i like with kubuntu over ubuntu is that there is a way to increase the scroll wheel mouse amount in the mouse settings
[21:36] <alinon> as far as i know ubuntu don't have that option yet hehe
[21:38] <alinon> oh and i really like kopete, i wish ubuntu had it
[21:38] <alinon> heck i wish kopete was on windows haha
[21:40] <Idrogeno> how can you like kopete more than pidgin?
[21:40] <alinon> the window theme is there by default
[21:40] <alinon> whatever they call it, like adium
[21:42] <alinon> chat window styles, are the win
[21:43] <alinon> i just wish i could figure out why my compiz themes aren't working - i hate to have to reinstall
[21:44] <Guest2638> ask in #compiz-fusion
[21:44] <kaminix> The new Konversation seems to be out, any plans to include it or will it be included with the next KDE 3 release?
[21:44] <alinon> i guess i will
[21:44] <alinon> thanks guest
[21:44] <Guest2638> np
[21:50] <juandiego> my wifi Broadcom 43xx isdetected but I still can not get a connection as every time I try to do it asks for the password and then goes up to 58% completed or 'configuring IP', and thats it, any ideas?
[21:50] <mizipzor> is there a channel for kdevelep?
[21:50] <mizipzor> kdevelop*
[21:50] <Idrogeno> #kdevelop ...
[21:50] <mizipzor> oh... to obvious i guess
[22:11] <mizipzor> if i have installed physfs library, is there anyway to find out where the actual library file is?
[22:11] <mizipzor> whereis physfs tells me where the header is
[22:11] <rabiddachshund> I can't get any movies to play past the copyright notice
[22:12] <rabiddachshund> Kaffeine is the only player that even goes that far. Mplayer, Codeine and VLC won't even read the disks. What could be going on?
[22:17] <Machtin> hi guys!
[22:18] <mizipzor> Machtin: hi
[22:19] <Machtin> could someone tell me how to get quicklaunch icons to kde 4.1?
[22:28] <anom01y> how  do I convert wma to mp3 files ?
[22:28] <anom01y> lots of them ?
[22:28] <zabbadapp> rabiddachshund: do you have libdvdcss? http://www.medibuntu.org/packages.php
[22:29] <neofax> I cannot connect one folder in SAMBA.  I always get permission denied and nothing in my log files.
[22:30] <evgeny> hi whats the command to install compiz?
[22:33] <rabiddachshund> zabbadapp: probably not. I'm checking that link you sent and the error that it's giving in the OP is the error that I'm getting
[22:33] <Machtin> noone? :<
[22:34] <dobermann> Hi all
[22:34] <dobermann> бля тут Русские есть?
[22:35] <rabiddachshund> zabbadapp: edit: I had a different tab open and confused myself.
[22:35] <fanel> how could I get sound on my alpto
[22:35] <fanel> laptop
[22:35] <fanel> any experts here
[22:35] <zabbadapp> rabiddachshund: well, you can add medibuntus repos and install what you need, as described on that page
[22:35] <climatewarrior_> whose running kde 4.1 here?
[22:35] <fanel> in configuring sound>?
[22:35] <climatewarrior_> are you liking it so far?
[22:36] <sluckz> me
[22:36] <sluckz> 4.1 is the reason i put linux back on my laptop.
[22:37] <climatewarrior_> it looks preety prosmising. if it keeps this momentum it might actually beat mac in usabilty
[22:37] <climatewarrior_> not anytime soon
[22:37] <climatewarrior_> but one of this days
[22:37] <climatewarrior_> these
[22:37] <rabiddachshund> sluckz: does kubuntu use kde 4.1?
[22:37] <sluckz> the community remix
[22:38] <sluckz> and you can install next to 3.x
[22:39] <sluckz> well actually yes.  but the community remix defaults to 4.1
[22:39] <sluckz> sorry 4.0.xx somethin
[22:45] <dobermann> вы че все тут ебнутые что ли буржуи???
[22:54] <juandiego> my wifi Broadcom 43xx is detected by knetwork manager but I still can not get a connection as every time I try to do it asks for the password and then goes up to 58% or 'configuring IP', and then it just says tha connection failed and nothing else, any ideas?
[22:55] <sluckz> i went through that yesterday
[22:56] <sluckz> pain in the but.
[22:56] <juandiego> any painkiller you can recommend?
[22:57] <fanel> who konws a thing or two about configuring sound in ubuntu 8.04?
[22:57] <sluckz> well.  i followed the directions from http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and that worked the best for me
[22:57] <sluckz> thats only as far as speed and stability though
[22:58] <sluckz> i did notice some dhcp issues when trying the different b*fwcutter stuff
[22:58] <mizipzor> its a little quiet in #kdevelop, so i ask here... when compiling and running a console program, is there anyway to get a window to see what the program actually prints? without actually starting it through konsole or something i mean
[23:06] <juandiego> whats dhcp issue?
[23:07] <juandiego> :)
[23:09] <sluckz> like yours hanging aroung 50-70% waiting for dhcp
[23:15] <oakbox> Hi all, I have a couple of different email addresses and I would like to access them all from one place but need to access them from both my desktop and laptop when im away from home.  I have a small box i use as a server and was wondering if there was a way of using that box to recieve all my emails from different accounts and then somehow connecting to my server to check all my emails at the same time where ever i am.
[23:15] <oakbox> Hope that makes sense, must have been done before can someone point me in the right direction?
[23:19] <sluckz> a simple way is to forward copys to gmail from each account.
[23:19] <sluckz> have you looked at fetchmail?
[23:20] <oakbox> hi havent looked at anything apart from a tutorail on setting up a mail server but that seems too much for what i need.  I will have a look though :)
[23:20] <sluckz> what do you use now?
[23:22] <oakbox> Well i have been using KMail to check emails but it doesnt work if i need the emails on desktop and away from home
[23:22] <oakbox> also cant check my hotmail through hotmail?
[23:23] <sluckz> well hotmail pretty much puposely keeps you from moving your mail to suite your needs
[23:24] <oakbox> true :)
[23:24] <sluckz> well for me i use NX to remote home in linux or remote desktop for windows
[23:25] <sluckz> most other solutions seem so overkill for my personal stuff although i like them.  scalix comes to mind.
[23:26] <oakbox> cool thanks for that i will have a read
[23:28] <denis> y wae
[23:29] <appletree> hi2all
[23:37] <oakbox> hi appletree
[23:41] <appletree> hi oakbox
[23:49] <oakbox> #ubuntu-server
[23:49] <oakbox> oops sorry
[23:50] <mizael> hola
[23:50] <mizael> hello
[23:51] <mizael> there is someone?
[23:57] <maltaethiron> Hey, a friend told me about a website where you could build custom repositories, anybody happen to know the site?  or one similar?