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emgentheya00:02
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kirklandslangasek: okey doke, any chance you have a couple of minutes to review/sponsor my grub-raid patch?00:23
slangasekkirkland: I think so :)00:23
kirklandslangasek: okay, i've pushed, waiting for Launchpad to scan my branch....00:23
slangasekkirkland: OOI, do you think it would be better to drop the other patch from the tree, rather than applying && reverting?00:25
kirklandslangasek: actually, that was another thing i wanted to talk to you about00:25
kirklandslangasek: in the first revision, i do the minimal amount to solve this bug00:26
kirklandslangasek: after you were happy with that, i was going to commit another revision that reduces that crappy 30-line function down to my 4-line equiv00:26
* slangasek nods :)00:26
kirklandi don't actually use that function for anything00:26
kirklandslangasek: but it's kinda ugly, and the comments above the .diff in the patches directory draws its providence into question00:27
kirklandslangasek: i'm still getting used to bzr-based package source management, and I wasn't sure if it was better to remove a patch that's in the debian sources, or to add an ubuntu patch that undoes it00:28
slangasekI would argue that it's better to remove the patch from the debian sources00:28
slangasekthen the "remove" is visible as part of the repo history, and doesn't have to be encoded in the current source package00:28
kirklandslangasek: okay, sounds good00:29
kirklandslangasek: my code will be here: https://code.launchpad.net/~kirkland/grub/33649b00:29
slangasek(I would also argue for per-feature branches instead of a debian/patches directory, but I'm a ways away from ramping up on this idea myself on any packages :)00:29
kirklandslangasek: as soon as Launchpad does its magic00:29
slangasekah; I somewhat expected the new revision to be on the same branch, ok, I'll go grabbing that other one :)00:29
kirklandslangasek: i suppose i could have done that....00:30
* kirkland needs a big fat bzr-best-practices brain dump from a bzr expert00:30
* slangasek holds up his hands and backs away from the 'expert' label00:31
slangasekalthough, 'bzr expert' would be a cool subcommand00:31
kirklandslangasek: okay, it's there, in case you hadn't noticed00:33
slangasekyep, reviewing :)00:35
ScottKkirkland: I know as much as bzr co and bzr ci work like svn.00:37
kirklandScottK: :-)  i'm doing pretty well with it... but sometimes people ask me questions like "why did you create a new branch to do that?"00:38
slangasekheh00:38
kirklandScottK: and I just kinda stare at them blankly thinking....  hmm, why did it?  i guess because I always just create a new branch00:38
slangasek"because it was more than a single commit"00:39
slangasek:-)00:39
kirklandreally, it's just to artificially elevate my karma00:39
kirklandslangasek: i've got to head out to a rehearsal dinner00:43
kirklandslangasek: the deletion of the raid.diff revision on my end will wait until tomorrow00:43
slangasekkirkland: ok; unless I say otherwise in scrollback, you can expect this bit to be merged in the meantime, please just update the same branch if you refactor it00:44
slangasek(and then I can merge when I'm on the ground in Argentina on Sunday)00:44
kirklandslangasek: you bet, thanks a ton00:44
kirklandslangasek: enjoy DebConf00:44
slangasekkirkland: oh, before you go - I see you're assuming that the raid device is always going to be the first BIOS drive?00:44
kirklandslangasek: the hd0, bit?00:45
slangasekyes00:45
kirklandslangasek: can you think of a smarter way to do that?00:45
kirklandslangasek: kees seemed to be okay with it, so i just left it as is00:45
slangaseknot immediately :-)00:45
kirklandslangasek: perhaps worthy of an inline comment, i suppose00:46
slangasekis this going to regress anything that worked before?00:46
kirklandslangasek: if you want to do that as you commit/push, that would be great00:46
kirklandslangasek: it won't regress any non-raid systems00:47
slangasekkirkland: will it regress any RAID systems? :-)00:48
kirklandslangasek: for systems with /boot on RAID, the MBR writing will be handled slightly differently00:48
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slangasekit seems to me that it will, that previously we at least looked at device.map00:49
kirklandslangasek: the only additional thing we could do is perhaps pull the bios device out of device.map if it exists in the RAID case, and assume hd0 if it doesn't00:49
slangasekyes, I think that would be the right thing to do00:49
kirklandslangasek: okay, i can make another another revision, but not at the moment00:49
slangasekunderstood00:49
kirklandslangasek: generating the debian/patches/*diff crap is time consuming and error prone00:50
slangasekyep00:50
kirklandslangasek: okay...  i'll fix that and drop you a note00:50
* kirkland was hoping to put this baby to bed tonight ;-)00:50
kirklandtomorrow then00:50
slangasekmerged&pushed the current rev00:50
kirklandslangasek: okay, later.00:50
slangasekthanks :)00:50
kirklandslangasek: oh, good00:50
kirklandadios00:51
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theunixgeekhttp://digg.com/linux_unix/An_Open_Letter_to_Ubuntu02:00
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cellofellowIs there some trick to adding mimetypes to Ubuntu?04:15
ion_File a bug against shared-mime-info, i think. Not 100% sure, though.04:18
TheMusocjwatson: Yeah I can do so first thing Monday.04:19
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pwnguinheh http://people.redhat.com/esandeen/ext4/e4fsck-1T.png09:03
rustychickenis the timevault trunk still in active development?09:32
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emgentmoin11:40
YokoZarWill Intrepid be getting PulseAudio 0.9.11 :)12:58
persiaYokoZar: You might file an upgrade bug, rather than hoping for a scrollback response: it's at least as likely to get an answer, and you get notified rather than having to watch carefully :)13:09
persia(that is, if you want the upgrade: if you don't, I don't have any useful suggestions)13:09
YokoZarpersia: good call :)13:09
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okaratashello18:10
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lukehasnonameanyone have experience with Empathy?19:36
bigonme :)19:37
lukehasnonameFirst of all, a technical question: How do I install backends for protocols? I can't find a menu that will do that, and it won't let me add accounts of any kind unless I have these backends instaleld.19:39
lukehasnoname*installed19:39
lukehasnonameand the help menu isn't working. I'm on Hardy.19:39
bigonlukehasnoname, do you use the package from the ppa?19:40
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_gAri-hi there, can you please help me out where can I find the ubuntu specific kernel patch in peaces that is applied to the vanilla kernel? I mean I only want to use parts of it, not totally22:35
pwnguin_gAri-: I can't help you with the specifics, but I know that git stores diffs between revisions that you can use to pull specific patches. ive never done it myself though22:43
sharms_gAri-: #ubuntu-kernel --- http://kernel.ubuntu.com22:49
stryd_onehi all22:51

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