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gnomefreakeverything is crashing :(10:01
gnomefreakim gonna try to get to bug mail today i might try without wrist brace on to make it faster but that ddepends if i can hold my wrist in normal position10:29
gnomefreaki also need  a blogger applet to blog onto wordpress and i cant find one excpt for wordpress but im under the impression that you need a server to use it10:30
gnomefreakasac: you here?11:24
* gnomefreak thinks we have a problem with a package or 211:25
gnomefreakmozilla-bookmarksftp is only or atleast depends on ff211:26
RainCTHi14:13
RainCTI've a little question... Am I right if I say that package mozilla-venkman in Hardy (http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/all/mozilla-venkman/filelist) completely useless or am I missing something?14:14
RainCT(+is)14:15
gnomefreakRainCT: not that im aware of. what about it isnt working?14:16
RainCTgnomefreak: I haven't tried it, but it's creating the symlinks in usr/lib/iceape, usr/lib/icedove, etc.14:18
gnomefreakshould be ok but testing it would be nice since we have both of those in archives14:19
gnomefreakas well as the upstream branding14:19
RainCTgnomefreak: but they are just transitional packages14:19
gnomefreakRainCT: yes i know sd i said someone needs to test it to make sure, either way its easy fix if needed14:20
gnomefreakRainCT: i might look at it nex week but im hoping my wrist allows me to type with both hands soon14:20
gnomefreaknext14:21
* RainCT has just changed that in Intrepid14:21
gnomefreakmaybe ill ask jazzva to look at it14:21
gnomefreakwhen i see him14:21
* RainCT decides to not be lazy and try if it works :P14:22
gnomefreakif it was merged or taken from debian since we dont really merge from debian but to debian maybe forgot to change it but if we did it than we nomrally dont merge them so it should work but like i said easy fix if needed14:23
gnomefreakwe need to fix mozilla-ookmarksftp as well should be trival as well but im off for a while wrist is killing me14:25
RainCTok, tried venkman... Firefox doesn't see the version from Hardy, but the version in Intrepid where I changed the names in debian/links works fine :)14:28
* RainCT wonders why people keep merging a package to change the dependencies if it won't work anyways :P14:30
RainCTgnomefreak: uhm.. I can't find that mozilla-ookmarksftp package14:31
gnomefreak+b14:31
gnomefreakmozilla-bookmarksftp14:32
RainCTah ok, now it makes more sense :P14:32
gnomefreakit depends on ff2 not 314:32
RainCTok, I'll have a look a it14:33
RainCTIs usr/lib/firefox-addons for Firefox 2 or Firefox 3?15:36
RainCTasac?15:36
armin76he's shopping15:37
RainCToh ok15:38
RainCTthe firefox-addons directory is for Fx 3, right?15:38
armin76no clue, try asking fta_15:38
fta_ff315:47
armin76RainCT: ^15:48
fta_fta@ix:~ $ dpkg -S firefox-addons15:49
fta_ubufox, language-pack-fr-base, language-pack-en-base, firefox-3.0, firefox-3.1, language-pack-ja-base, firefox-4.0: /usr/lib/firefox-addons/extensions15:49
RainCTthanks15:49
=== fta_ is now known as fta
RainCTfta: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2008-August/004403.html - is this explained on some wiki page?15:57
ftanot sure, but i don't think so.16:00
RainCTfta: should I document that somewhere under MozillaTeam/ or is there a better place for it (ScottK asked for it to be on the wiki)?16:02
ftaRainCT, yes, please. Somewhere close to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Extensions/List16:09
ftai received several requests for packaging of flock 2.0b2. My last deb is b1 but i can't find a TAG for b2. Is there someone from flock here ?16:21
ftahttp://svn-mirror.flock.com/trac/flock/browser/tags16:21
RainCTfta: btw, why is there no able with the extensions that we get from Debian on MozillaTeam/Extensions/List?16:22
RainCTs/able/table16:22
ftathe last one perhaps16:24
=== asac_ is now known as asac
JazzvaRainCT, thanks for the howto for extensions merging :).20:10
RainCTnp :)20:11
Jazzvaasac, who do we need to bug in order to blacklist some extensions on mom :)? (those maintained in bzr with mozilla-devscripts)20:14
ftacrimsun, ff3 dies when mplayer is running, I'm using mplayer with ao=pulse21:25
crimsunfta: any if mplayer uses alsa?21:26
crimsuns/any/and/21:26
ftawith alsa, apps were fighting for dsp, ending with no sound anywhere21:27
ftabut that was a while ago, donno if things improved since21:27
crimsunfta: err21:37
crimsunfta: in intrepid?  with the pulse pcm+ctl modifications in /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf?21:37
crimsunand libasound2-plugins installed21:37
crimsunmplayer shouldn't be attempting to grab hw:21:37
ftai've been using ao=pulse since hardy21:38
crimsunfta: to test, use ao=alsa (or is it alsa9 or alsa09 these days, sheesh?)22:02
ftacrimsun, btw, if i remove ao= from my ~/.mplayer/config, mplayer is still using pulse22:02
fta        alsa    ALSA-0.9.x-1.x audio output22:03
crimsunit should be routing through pa via asoundrc anyhow.22:03
ftai mean, by default, mplayer is using ao=pulse22:04
crimsunso what does ao=alsa give you?22:04
ftaseems ok.22:05
crimsunso the pcm+ctl routing is fine with ao=alsa, but using ao=pulse gives you the error?22:05
crimsunif so, you know where to file a bug22:06
crimsun(against neither alsa-plugins nor alsa-lib but mplayer)22:06
ftadonno yet, ff3 dies after a while, always when idle, hence the bug report saying "it dies during the night"22:07
crimsunoh, that bug?22:07
crimsunI thought you meant it croaked immediately22:07
ftano, it doesn't22:08
crimsunI suppose it doesn't matter, since the nondeterminism is a bug in itself22:08
asacok23:24
asacanyone still awake=23:24
asac?23:24
ftai am23:24
asacbrave ;)23:24
asacfta: cant we package a random snapshot of flock?23:25
ftawe can23:25
asacRainCT: firefox-addons is for ffox 323:25
asacfirefox is ffox 2323:25
asac;)23:25
asacfta: i think if we package a snapshot that is close to b2 thats good ;)23:26
asacfta: how is the flock on xulrunner going?23:28
ftawell, i don't see the point of spending more time there if it never enters the repo. xulification of this one will never happen imho23:28
asacnever?23:28
ftai mean upstream23:28
asacfta: did you try to build --with-libxul-sdk=`23:29
asac?23:29
ftaand as it's a huge hack on top of non xulified ff3, it needs serious work to xulify23:29
asacwhere did they get the non-xulified ff3 from?23:29
asacff3 is xulified23:29
ftatheir hacks is on both ff3 and xul23:30
ftaare23:30
asacok23:30
asacxul needs to be sorted23:30
asacff3 is ok23:30
asacas shipping duplicate browser/ directory isnt a big problem imo23:30
ftai tried once to split the two, got it to build fine but it failed miserably at runtime23:30
asacwhich two?23:31
RainCTasac: OK, just wanted to be sure :). I've written https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Extensions/Merging, btw.23:31
asacfta:  how can i checkout flock?23:33
ftamy branch is on lp23:33
asacfta: no i mean ... how can i checkout upstream flock23:33
ftamozilla-devscript, as usual23:34
asacwhats the svn url to use for checkout ;)23:34
fta/usr/share/mozilla-devscripts/mozclient/mozclient.pl flock23:35
ftasvn://svn-mirror.flock.com/master/flock/trunk23:35
asacok23:35
asacridiculously hidden on their website ;)23:36
ftaindeed23:36
ftahttp://svn-mirror.flock.com/trac/flock/browser23:36
asacfta: do you know if they have a "pristine/unmodified" upstreawm import, so i can do a svn diff and seee what they changed?23:37
ftayep, there: http://svn-mirror.flock.com/trac/flock/browser/vendor23:38
asacerr, i am getting svn://svn-mirror.flock.com/master/flock/trunk/mozilla now23:38
asacso i can diff that against svn://svn-mirror.flock.com/master/flock/browser/vendor ?23:38
ftano23:39
asacok i think i have it23:39
asacstill confused23:40
asacwhy is there no "browser" dir in the svn: url :(23:40
ftathere is, it's at http://svn-mirror.flock.com/trac/flock/browser/trunk/mozilla/browser23:41
ftacoupled with http://svn-mirror.flock.com/trac/flock/browser/trunk/mozilla/flock23:41
asacfta: i cannot checkout those urls can i?23:42
ftabrowser it, it's a track23:42
fta-r23:42
fta(just a frontend)23:42
asacstill confused23:43
asacso i svn co svn://svn-mirror.flock.com/master/flock/trunk/mozilla for flock23:43
asacand svn co svn://svn-mirror.flock.com/master/flock/vendor/firefox-3.0/mozilla23:43
asacfor unmodified upstream?23:43
asacok at least i get something that way23:43
* asac igorantly tries --wiht-libxul-sdk build ;)23:46
asac--enable-application value not recognized (flock/build.mk does not exist).23:47
asacthats without any option23:47
asac(not even --with-libxul-sdk23:47
asac)23:47
asacok i copied browser/build.mk to flock/build.mk ;)23:49
asacok trying our system nspr patches23:51
asacflockIRDFSQLDataSource not found23:52
asacdid they add that to toolkit?23:52
asachmm23:52
asacoh they added it to rdf/ ;)23:53
asacwhy that?23:53

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