[00:14] <tormod> bryce, I started a little on the -ati bugs... a drop in the ocean
[00:32] <tormod> shouldn't EXA be default for radeon soon?
[00:53] <bryce_> yeah we need to switch over to that
[00:53] <bryce_> should be more stable now than it was in hardy
[00:56] <bryce_> btw, bdmurray says he'll wait until alpha-4 is out to do the script to request people retest against that
[00:56] <bryce_> since alpha-3 doesn't include the latest version of the driver
[01:13] <tormod> down to 2 New ati bugs now...
[01:30] <tormod> zero New ati bugs!
[01:37] <pwnguin> does anyone have an idea how to better work with wacom on reporting bugs?
[01:38] <pwnguin> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=525124&aid=2030106&group_id=69596
[01:39] <pwnguin> that one is supposedly fixed upstream
[01:39] <pwnguin> in another report the developer said:
[01:40] <pwnguin> "It could be a mismatch between your OS and the linuxwacom version.  As a general rule of thumb, we recommend everyone upgrade to the latest linuxwacom release when there are issues with Wacom device.  If problem stays, post your questions to linuxwacom-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net before filing a bug.  This is the best (and fastest) way to get your problem resolved."
[06:30] <tjaalton> great, bibblepro works on intrepid.. upgrade time
[11:11] <tormod> bryce: RFC https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/ResponseRadeon
[15:39] <pwnguin> tormod: needs more formatting ;)
[15:39] <tormod> it's for pasting into bug reports.
[15:39] <pwnguin> done
[15:40] <tormod> thanks!
[15:40] <pwnguin> well, it would be done if wiki wasnt ass slow
[15:40] <tormod> it's done!
[15:41] <tormod> after updating the wiki, it takes its time to mail notifications around. but the update is pretty much instantaneous
[15:41] <pwnguin> anyways, im not a fan of canned responses
[15:42] <tormod> pwnguin: it's better than no response... there are 170 ati bugs
[15:42] <pwnguin> so you're going to work with all 170 reporters?
[15:43] <pwnguin> you're a braver soul than I :)
[15:49] <tormod> this canned response doesn't go to all 170 bugs :)
[15:50] <tormod> but its probably usable for 20-30 of them
[15:50] <tormod> and who said I will post it myself :)
[15:53] <pwnguin> there's a new wacom release out
[15:54] <pwnguin> claims to fix a few bugs reported it that are also in LP; how should I request a new version get brought into intrepid?
[16:05] <pwnguin> bonus points for answers that don't involve waiting for debian developers who are three months behind
[16:11] <tormod> is the old version based on debian?
[16:11] <pwnguin> sometimes
[16:12] <pwnguin> wacom-tools in ubuntu is kinda painful
[16:12] <pwnguin> someone ages ago decided an epoch bump was a good idea
[16:12] <pwnguin> now the importer is broke
[16:12] <pwnguin> meanwhile, the debian maintainer is just a bit slow on new releases
[16:14] <pwnguin> investigating a bit, it seems the openSuse guy broke wacom for us
[17:48] <bryce> pwnguin: yeah I raised the slow-wiki issue in my call with mdz a few days ago.  He's going to speak with IS about it.
[17:48] <pwnguin> hey bryce
[17:48] <bryce> heya
[17:49] <pwnguin> im kinda confused on how to deal with wacom
[17:49] <pwnguin> people report bugs, but upstream wants them to build the latest and join the ML and so on =/
[17:50] <bryce> got a pointer to the new upstream version?
[17:50] <pwnguin> what type of pointer?
[17:50] <bryce> url?
[17:50] <pwnguin> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/linuxwacom/linuxwacom-0.8.1-2.tar.bz2
[17:50] <pwnguin> thats the latest dev
[17:51] <pwnguin> linuxwacom.sourceforge.net is the homepage, it's decent
[17:51] <bryce> pwnguin: do you know how to build packages?  The next step if you don't want to wait for debian is to produce a new version of the package
[17:51] <pwnguin> i do
[17:52] <pwnguin> but im reading that it doesnt build on debian
[17:52] <bryce> ah
[17:52] <pwnguin> i havent tried yet, so maybe it's just forum people being forum people
[17:53] <bryce> give it a shot, and if there's issues during build pastebin them and I'll take a look
[17:53] <bryce> might be just dependency issues or autoconf stuff
[17:54] <pwnguin> someone on their ml suggested that rolling back danny kukawka's patches fix things
[17:55] <pwnguin> which is a bit aggrevating
[23:19] <tjaalton> bah, so gnome-screensaver not starting seems to be a consolekit problem
[23:36] <pwnguin> bugjam question: where do fglrx bugs that crash X go?
[23:39] <jcristau> to hell
[23:41] <pwnguin> more seriously, when they're reported against "xorg", what would be a better package
[23:41] <pwnguin> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/156480
[23:45] <jcristau> seriously, they should go whatever provides fglrx, imo, or some other alias for /dev/null
[23:46] <pwnguin> thats kinda the question
[23:46] <pwnguin> what provides fglrx?
[23:48] <jcristau> oh. no idea :)
[23:48]  * pwnguin headdesks