[00:00] <unop> gluonman, well, each individual router make/model has a different way of doing this -- have a look for port fowarding/virtual servers/application servers/ etc
[00:00] <gluonman> unop, I'm looking into it.
[00:01] <computer> how do i kill a program?
[00:01] <Pirate_Hunter> integrand: can you put your error in pastebin and ask again here
[00:01] <hendrixski> GGRRRR,  why does Ubuntu default to GCJ when it needs java stuff? It's crap!   Now... if I just install regular Java does that overwrite GCJ?
[00:01] <unop> computer, the kill command itself
[00:01] <Pirate_Hunter> computer: killall [program name]
[00:01] <integrand> Pirate_Hunter, it's one line
[00:01] <darkus> hi
[00:02] <Pirate_Hunter> integrand: what does it say
[00:02] <darkus> how to update the codecs?
[00:02] <unop> computer, Pirate_Hunter, that would kill a lot more than one tho
[00:02] <usser> hendrixski, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[00:02] <integrand> Error: can't read block 179954 from image (135194480)
[00:02] <hendrixski> usser, ah, I'll try that
[00:02] <computer> how do i get process id?
[00:02] <computer> to kill program
[00:02] <genii> computer: ps ax
[00:02] <unop> computer,  pidof program
[00:02] <Pirate_Hunter> unop: yah it would kill the program and its threads i.e. killall xchat etc otherwise they coudl use kill ahhhhh well it depends on them
[00:03] <genii> or that
[00:03] <usser> hendrixski, i think its for jre not for jdk though try javac or jdk or something like taht
[00:03] <hendrixski> usser, SWEET.   yeah, now when I type in java -version it's got the right one
[00:03] <hendrixski> usser, I'll do those too
[00:03] <asala> Enter text here...
[00:03] <asala> gj
[00:03] <asala> gdkkhl
[00:03] <asala> hi
[00:04] <unop> Pirate_Hunter, errm, that's not technically accurate -- it kills all programs that match the given name - whether the threads are also terminated depends on what signal was passed to killall
[00:04] <Pirate_Hunter> unop: since i dont have ubuntu dekstop i dont do thigns the same as everyone else with the whole gui thing which i miss but yeah cli is just as good so id top "just remeber need to try htop"
[00:04] <hendrixski> usser, nope, none of those other ones are "known arguments"
[00:04] <Pirate_Hunter> unop: true you explain things better
[00:04] <asala> sxs
[00:04] <gyaresu> computer: Pirate_Hunter You can also just use 'pkill -9 mysq' and it will make a good guess and kill mysqlclient or whatever
[00:04] <asala> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[00:05] <usser> hendrixski, the first one did it then, do u want to compile java programs or something?
[00:05] <unop> gyaresu, -9 should hardly ever be necessary tho
[00:05] <saiki> .
[00:05] <saiki> damn network lol
[00:05] <hendrixski> usser, I want to write GRails apps
[00:05] <gyaresu> unop: Make sure it goes down though. The main reason one wants to manually kill something...
[00:05] <Pirate_Hunter> gyaresu: just find it dodgy that you said it would make a good guess and kill the app but yeah havent tried that willt ry from now on
[00:05] <gluonman> unop, is there a way to get around the router's authentication if I don't have access to it's username and password settings?
[00:06] <hendrixski> and when I saw that "apt-get install groovy" installed GCJ on my server I googled "GCJ grails" and the first few pages are just problems and headaches
[00:06] <unop> gyaresu, pkill -1  should do it, -9 does not give the process a chance to cleanup it's act and terminate properly
[00:06] <arrrghhh> so i've tried the restricted driver manager first, and that broke X.  i tried the nvidia binary which has worked previously on this system, that broke X.  i don't know what else to try!
[00:07] <unop> gluonman, hmm, if you don't remember changing the password, you could consult the router's documentation - should be available from the vendor's website
[00:07] <arrrghhh> gluonman, if you have a router you can't access, there's a reset button on the device to put it back to factory defaults.
[00:07] <gluonman> unop, it seems like the defaults should be un: admin pss: admin. But according to my roommate who originally set up the router, she changed the username and password but kept no record of the information.
[00:08]  * Pirate_Hunter am i the only one hating deluge 0.9.05, why do programs take options that are useful :'X
[00:08] <Vexiq> hey guys. I got a question.. how can I get my sound working again in firefox? and in VLC cause the only media players that play sound are the ones that came standard with Ubuntu :)?
[00:08] <atha> hello, after installing kubuntu on virtualbox i cant mange to have sound in guest...
[00:08] <gluonman> arrrghhh, I forgot about that.
[00:08] <arrrghhh> gluonman, usually on the back near the WAN port.
[00:08] <gluonman> arrrghhh, thank you.
[00:08] <arrrghhh> gluonman, np
[00:08] <gyaresu> Vexiq: 'asoundconf list'
[00:08] <arrrghhh> i used to work for an ISP :d
[00:08] <gyaresu> Vexiq: the you can set default
[00:09] <droopsta915> I cant sign in to ubuntu, unless its in failsafe gnome. What can I do to log in normal mode, Itype in the username and password and the screen restarts to the login
[00:09] <arrrghhh> droopsta915, do you have /home on a separate partition?
[00:09] <Vexiq> http://pastebin.com/m70d4f6d5
[00:09] <unop> droopsta915, do you get any errors?
[00:09] <Vexiq> Headset works when I set it in the settings on the sound
[00:10] <Vexiq> it plays a beep
[00:10] <Vexiq> the ICH5 one does not. :)
[00:10] <NSsmiles> how can i get mirc to work on Ubuntu Breezy?
[00:10] <hendrixski> usser, thanks by the way!  :-)
[00:10] <unop> NSsmiles, using wine perhaps
[00:11] <ShdwShinobi> for some reason, when ubuntu boots, it goes to a black screen
[00:11] <ShdwShinobi> can someone help me with this?
[00:11] <NSsmiles> how?
[00:11] <NSsmiles> ?
[00:11] <droopsta915> no errors, one partition
[00:11] <unop> NSsmiles, http://cad.cx/blog/2007/10/07/howto-run-mirc-on-ubuntu-linux/
[00:12] <NSsmiles> ok thanks
[00:12] <saiki> anyone know how to connect a USB device to VMware?
[00:12] <meoblast> ok i feel like helping ppl today
[00:12] <Pirate_Hunter> ShdwShinobi: that is normal at least for me it is, if login screen pops up afterwards your good to go
[00:12] <droopsta915> I cant sign in to ubuntu, unless its in failsafe gnome. What can I do to log in normal mode, Itype in the username and password and the screen restarts to the login
[00:12] <droopsta915> no errors, one partition
[00:13] <ShdwShinobi> Pirate_Hunter, the login screen never pops up. I can get to a terminal by pressing ctrl+alt+1
[00:13] <Pirate_Hunter> meoblast: thats the spirit "every little help"
[00:13] <hendrixski> saiki, I think I tried that before... I totally forget if it worked or not.
[00:13] <meoblast> droopsta915: does it do this consistantly?
[00:13] <saiki> hendrixski: it shows the ability, maybe I need to put somehting ELSE in in ubuntu?
[00:13] <arrrghhh> droopsta915, you're gnome config in /home is probably hosed.  can you create another user and login with the newly created user?
[00:14] <hendrixski> saiki, yeah, I remember there was the option for it in the software but it didn't intuitively work... like only one thing could mount it at a time
[00:14] <red> My sound isn't working on this laptop.  It's not muted.  I still get system beeps, so I know the speaker isn't shot. The sound card is an integrated Intel 82801FB.  Can anyone help me?/
[00:14] <hendrixski> saiki, IIRC you have to unmount the USB from Ubuntu for it to show up in VMWare
[00:14] <Pirate_Hunter> ShdwShinobi: did you do a network insatll or a normal install of ubuntu? if you did normal install when booting do you get any messages that could be errors and does it send you straight to bash (cli) if so have you tried command startx
[00:14] <meoblast> arrrghhh: wouldnt it be better to use root for this job instead of just making a new user
[00:15] <XVampireX> Hey
[00:15] <trippss> ok - I must have clicked something/hit some key - now my firefox window is permanently partially transparent. running hardy and compiz
[00:15] <arrrghhh> meoblast, no, you should NEVER Login as root.
[00:15] <meoblast> arrrghhh: i know but how do you edit the files as non-root
[00:15] <arrrghhh> meoblast, edit what files?
[00:15] <droopsta915> it does this every day I also reinstalled twice
[00:15] <hendrixski> meoblast, yeah dude,  running as root is like a sin punishable by disembowlement
[00:15] <Druui> what a interesting experience of... partitioning.
[00:15] <meoblast> im one not to like root logins
[00:15] <red> Oh, yeah, this is a relatively fresh Hardy install.  No sound since before the install.
[00:15] <ShdwShinobi> Pirate_Hunter, I did a normal install. I got no errors, and it keeps me at the black screen. Doesn't send me to bash. When I run startx, it says the xserver is already running.
[00:15] <hendrixski> meoblast, sudo
[00:15] <XVampireX> There's a little question, not really related to ubuntu itself (Although in ubuntu) I'm not sure if it's a bug but in archive manager there's this thing where when I click on extract button and then again on extract it doesn't let me until I reopen the folder...
[00:16] <genii> droopsta915: Likely a permisssions problem
[00:16] <Vexiq> I dont want to be rude here but is there no one that can help me with the sound problem?
[00:16] <saiki> trippss: hold shift and use the mosewheel one way of the other
[00:16] <meoblast> i have a question
[00:16] <gluonman> unop, the router's website will not reveal what the factory defaults are.
[00:16] <arrrghhh> Vexiq, we're volunteers.  we do our best, but you haven't paid anyone any money.
[00:16] <trippss> saiki, that doesn't seem to help
[00:16] <droopsta915> vexiq u check the sound card?
[00:16] <arrrghhh> gluonman, what make/model
[00:16] <saiki> trippss: try alt then
[00:16] <trippss> saiki, ah! that's it. thanks!
[00:17] <trippss> that's cool
[00:17] <meff> in general with linux should the bios option "pnp os installed" be enabled or disabled?
[00:17] <unop> gluonman, you should be able to tell what make and model by looking at the back/bottom of the router
[00:17] <gluonman> arrrghhh, Westel C90-610010-06
[00:17] <crabgrass> how do i exit a man page?
[00:17] <unop> crabgrass, q
[00:17] <infinitycircuit> crabgrass, q
[00:17] <gluonman> unop, I already know the make/model
[00:17] <crabgrass> thanks!
[00:17] <unop> crabgrass, crtl+c
[00:17] <saiki> trippss: np :)
[00:17] <trippss> saiki, does that affect the normal behavior of the window going transparent after a period of time?
[00:17] <arrrghhh> gluonman, eek wth is that lol 1 sec
[00:17] <atha> how do i setup sound in xubuntu running from virtualbox?
[00:17] <usser> meff, should be on since linux is pnp but i never actually seen this option affect anything at all
[00:17] <unop> gluonman, so - now you can get the documentation for the router from the vendor's website
[00:17] <Vexiq> droopsta915, sound card works. standard media players in Ubuntu work. only Firefox and VLC and the like do not work. I've b een asking this question for 3 days and kept checking google but no good answer
[00:18] <gluonman> unop, as I would also expect, but no such luck
[00:18] <meff> mmka, thanks usser
[00:18] <Pirate_Hunter> ShdwShinobi: no error/normal messages when booting than it sends you straight to a black screen with nothing on it? sound like you havent got a windows manager and what you see is xorg but that aint right cause xorg allows command input
[00:19] <unop> gluonman, http://www.westell.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=186&arcsection=support
[00:19] <XVampireX> There's a little question, not really related to ubuntu itself (Although in ubuntu) I'm not sure if it's a bug but in archive manager there's this thing where when I click on extract button and then again on extract it doesn't let me until I reopen the folder...
[00:19] <ShdwShinobi> Pirate_Hunter, sorry... I guess I should have phrased that better. It doesn't output to a monitor. My monitor says no signal found unless I press ctrl+alt+1
[00:19] <arrrghhh> gluonman, i couldn't find anything other than the manufacturer's website...
[00:20] <gluonman> unop, I'll look that up.
[00:20] <gluonman> arrrghhh, yeah, I couldn't either.
[00:20] <arrrghhh> sorry.  that's a funky device.  looks like a PPPoE dsl modem/router
[00:20] <hendrixski> LOL, has anybody read the description of the FTPD package?  "It's recommended you use something else" ... heh heh
[00:21] <Pirate_Hunter> ShdwShinobi: oh did you setup xorg properly type command gksudo displayconfig-gtk and set monitor display properly and type of board you got, that might help but no sure. Im also checking online
[00:21] <equim-> hello, I'm hoping someone can help me... I've just applied the updates from the last month or so to my mythbuntu box - it wanted to reboot to finish and now my network interface has disappeared
[00:21] <meoblast> my sister tried upgrading to hardy last night and it said "13 minutes remaining" for 6 hours so she x'd it out.. now GDM wont work.... should i just do "dpkg -reconfigure -a" and then "apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[00:22] <hendrixski> equim-, that's odd.  The reboot only happens during Kernel updates... those happen about once every ... oh, 2 months.
[00:22] <ShdwShinobi> I'll try that. I reinstalled ubuntu a couple of times, and whenever I install the restricted-drivers for my ATI card it boots like that. Or if I install the ati drivers from the site directly
[00:22] <belorix> on linux, http://127.0.0.1/phpmyadmin/ doesnt work
[00:22] <saiki> trippss: it affects the program, yes
[00:22] <Pirate_Hunter> ShdwShinobi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=121819 someoen with the same problem as you i believe found this in google by typing "ubuntu boot black screen" without quotes
[00:22] <droopsta915> vexiq do u have ubuntu
[00:23] <equim-> any ideas on what I can do to further debug the problem?
[00:23] <Vexiq> ofcourse I do..
[00:23] <unop> belorix, it works if you have phpmyadmin / php/ apache and mysql installed and running
[00:23] <XVampireX> belorix: what unop said... :)
[00:23] <trippss> saiki, ok thanks
[00:23] <belorix> unop, how can i tell if there runnign
[00:23] <equim-> so far I've just done an ifconfig and noted that it only shows the loopback adapter - that's about as far as my knowledge goes ;)
[00:23] <XVampireX> and you shouldn't use 127.0.0.1 you should use localhost, faster :)
[00:23] <Pirate_Hunter> ShdwShinobi: you didn tell me you had ATI card :/ you should state that, it explains check your drivers, see if your using the correct ones and check that post
[00:23] <ShdwShinobi> Pirate_Hunter, I've seen that before unfortunately :( It'll get the xserver running right again, but at a super low resolution and then I can't use compiz
[00:23] <droopsta915> vexiq copy and paste this in the terminal and tell me if it worked.
[00:24] <saiki> trippss: you're welcome
[00:24] <droopsta915> vexiq xiq> droopsta915, sound card works. standard media players in Ubuntu work. only Firefox and VLC and
[00:24] <unop> belorix,  ps aux | egrep "apache|mysql"  # to check if apache and mysql are running
[00:24] <blackvd> Just installed 8.04.1 on a brand new compaq. everything is up and running now save the wi-fi as per usual with linux. however I am running a dual boot with the preinstalled vista and was wondering if anyone knows where the drivers might be located so I can install them via ndis. thanks.
[00:24] <unop> belorix,   dpkg -l | egrep "phpmyadmin" # to see if phpmyadmin is installed
[00:24] <droopsta915>  sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse libxine-extracodecs w32codecs
[00:25] <gluonman> unop, according to the documentation, this particular model doesn't have a factory default setting for username/password. It's provided uniquely.
[00:25] <gluonman> unop, from the get-go.
[00:25] <ShdwShinobi> and Pirate_Hunter i'm using the ones from the restricted-drivers repository. It's worked fine for months... but just stopped this week
[00:25] <Pirate_Hunter> ShdwShinobi: thats the point get xorg running super low and increase it afterwards, your literally redoing your setting untill you find something good "posts #5&6 seem to have complimented each other"
[00:25] <droopsta915> vexiq here it is
[00:25] <droopsta915>  sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse libxine-extracodecs w32codecs
[00:25] <gluonman> unop, which sucks, because the only way to get past this step now is to get my roommate to dig around and find that information (which she hasn't accessed for almost 4 years).
[00:25] <unop> gluonman, does the documentation have a reset procedure?
[00:25] <gluonman> unop, unless you know of another way.
[00:25] <Pirate_Hunter> ShdwShinobi: might have been an update you did not sure but try redoing xorg might or might not help
[00:26] <gluonman> unop, let me check out reset options, I didn't think of that.
[00:26] <unop> gluonman, it should have .. usually there is a reset button at the back of the router
[00:26] <belorix> unop, phmyadmin is installed, and the mysql/apache one says start on all them
[00:26] <darkus> how to update the codecs?
[00:26] <droopsta915> anyone know why I cant login to ubuntu in regular mode?
[00:26] <unop> darkus, enable the medibuntu repository and install the w32codecs package
[00:26] <droopsta915> I can only get in as failsafe mode
[00:26] <saiki> bad passord?
[00:26] <unop> !w32codecs > darkus
[00:26] <gluonman> unop, I pushed the reset button at the back of the router.
[00:27] <droopsta915> if I can use the username and password in failsafe gnome, i would think the same applys to regular mode
[00:27] <unop> gluonman, well, you need to have it held down for about 10 seconds (might vary with your make)
[00:27] <gluonman> unop, but if there is some sort of default it goes back to, the documentation doesn't seem to reveal what it is. Unless it's just a difficult document to figure out.
[00:27] <Pirate_Hunter> droopsta915: your user gnome settings have become corrupted and i know this cause it happened to me
[00:27] <droopsta915> what can i do
[00:27] <gluonman> unop, I'll try that. I know, I'm not experienced with routers.
[00:27] <unop> gluonman, this is why you need to refer to the reset procedure that comes with the documentation
[00:27] <genii> droopsta915: if your username is for instance George then do:     sudo chown -R George:George `ls -a /home/George/*`
[00:28] <unop> gluonman, i suggest you download the pdf and keep it for reference
[00:28] <droopsta915> be back in a few.......................................................
[00:28] <Pirate_Hunter> droopsta915: wait for someone to help you fix that, i cnat haven't got it documented sadly :'(
[00:28] <gluonman> unop, I was having difficulty finding the reset procedure in the menu.
[00:28] <unop> droopsta915, genii, heh, don't use ls like that .. infact ls there is not even needed
[00:29] <darkus> thank you
[00:29] <alberaan> hi! How do you remove and insert modules?
[00:29] <unop> droopsta915,  sudo chown -R George:George /home/George
[00:29] <macd> alberaan, rmmod, insmod.
[00:29] <darkus> but i don't have the gpg keuy
[00:29] <alberaan> macd, thanks
[00:29] <genii> unop: There are other ways but it's fast and simple to change all the .whatever back to original owner
[00:29] <darkus> coz i formatted my pc
[00:29] <Pirate_Hunter> unop: give me a share of you brain (>^.^)>
[00:30] <unop> genii,   ls does not properly quote spaces and other characters in files names .. and this does what you want.    sudo chown -R George:George /home/George
[00:30] <genii> unop: That won't also change for instance /home/George/.somefile
[00:30] <droopsta915> genii
[00:30] <darkus> :<
[00:31] <falin> Hello
[00:31] <darkus> what can i do to register my gpg key
[00:31] <droopsta915> chown: cannot access `ls -a /home/victor/*': No such file or directory
[00:31] <alberaan> macd, the module im trying to remove and insert again is in use
[00:31] <genii> droopsta915: Perhaps you removed soehow their home directory
[00:31] <alberaan> how do I stop it?
[00:31] <droopsta915> ls is for list
[00:31] <alberaan> I have problems with sound :/
[00:31] <herath> Is there a way to change the locale settings (e.g. currency/date format) without changing the system language... i.e keep english as my system language for menus dialogs etc but set a different currency or date format?
[00:31] <alberaan> cant hear anything
[00:32] <unop> genii, find /home/George -iname ".*" -exec chown $USER.$USER {} \+
[00:32] <Daisuke-Laptop> droopsta915: very good, now can you tell us what cd does?  he wasn't saying that the ls command removed it.
[00:32] <belorix> I have phpmyadmin installed, and apache it says it works, but phpmyadmin wont ork
[00:32] <genii> droopsta915: Perhaps victor is Victor
[00:32] <Daisuke-Laptop> try ls -a /home
[00:32] <unop> droopsta915, see what i just said up there ^^
[00:32] <genii> unop: Yes, thats a more elegant solution
[00:33] <unop> genii, more than elegant, it's safe and not error prone
[00:33] <equim-> is there a way to ask ubuntu to look for my network interfaces again?
[00:34] <genii> unop: hehe
[00:34] <droopsta915> chown: cannot access `/home/victor/.gvfs': Permission denied
[00:34] <darkus> equim-, you have to desactivate and reactivate the network or the wireless
[00:34] <unop> equim-, restart the networking, hal and udev services perhaps
[00:34] <equim-> wouldn't a reboot do that?
[00:34] <droopsta915> cd takes u home. LoL
[00:35] <unop> droopsta915,  find ~ -iname ".*" -exec chown -R $USER.$USER {} \+
[00:35] <Firstmate> How do you edit the sources.list for the repositories in a text editor?
[00:35] <m1r> evening people
[00:35] <unop> !repositories
[00:35] <qr_> Firstmate: open it in the text editor, make sure you run the editor as root
[00:36] <Firstmate> Where is sources.list located though?
[00:36] <belorix> hoow can i reconfigure phpmyadmin
[00:36] <unop> Firstmate, see the latter part of what ubottu just said..
[00:36] <belorix> !phpmyadmin
[00:36] <n0ctum> edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[00:36] <qr_> Firstmate: /etc/apt/sources.lst
[00:36] <qr_> .list*
[00:36] <Firstmate> Thank you
[00:37] <Firstmate> pretty quiet here today
[00:37] <droopsta915> unop
[00:37] <droopsta915> chown: changing ownership of `/home/victor/.gvfs': Function not implemented
[00:37] <Firstmate> Its saying I do not have permission to save it
[00:38] <unop> !sudo > Firstmate
[00:38] <Fishscene> Would anyone know why an SSH connection would be refused?
[00:38] <Firstmate> is it
[00:38] <droopsta915> daisukelaptop do u know what cd is, LoL  j/k. i know what he ment
[00:38] <Firstmate> sudo /etc/apt/sources.list gedit
[00:38] <unop> droopsta915, does it set the permission on other directories?
[00:38] <qr_> Firstmate: no ssh server running, bad credentials
[00:39] <unop> Firstmate, wrong order
[00:39] <unop> Firstmate, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:39] <Pirate_Hunter> Firstmate: more like sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list
[00:39] <unop> Firstmate, or perhaps.   < /etc/apt/sources.list sudo gedit
[00:39] <Pirate_Hunter> unop: ahhh :/
[00:39] <DrX> what's the fastest way to find a misplaced file when you only know some of the contents?
[00:39] <Fishscene> I'm using putty and I get the error: "Network error: Connection refused". SSH was working before I restarted the computer... how would I get SSH back up and running?
[00:39] <Firstmate> Thank you
[00:39] <Firstmate> is bitchx
[00:40] <Firstmate> availble
[00:40] <Firstmate> through the synaptic?
[00:40] <bastid_raZor> Firstmate; search for it in synaptic. that will tell you.
[00:40] <cycom> Where are the defaults for the evdev driver set? I have a problem with my autodetected mice being set up with horizontal scroll bass ackwards.
[00:40] <unop> DrX, grep -inH keyword /path/to/look/*
[00:40] <Firstmate> And is it, sudo apt-get update
[00:40] <Firstmate> ?
[00:41] <unop> DrX, if you know part of the filename .. you could use locate
[00:41] <unop> Firstmate, yes
[00:41] <Pirate_Hunter> Firstmate: yah
[00:41] <droopsta915> damn it!!! I got to go to school now. anyone taking ccna 2 yet?
[00:41] <Firstmate> BitchX is not available through synaptic...
[00:41] <Firstmate> Any help?
[00:41] <ds[de]> download from the web?
[00:41] <unop> droopsta915, yes .. but that's going offtopic
[00:41] <Pirate_Hunter> droopsta915: way ahead of me mate
[00:41] <Fishscene> !ssh > Fishscene
[00:42] <droopsta915> hehe. i know. Ill get back to my sign in prob later tonight, thanx for the help unop
[00:42] <unop> yw
[00:42] <DrX> unop: ls:  cannot access locate
[00:43] <unop> DrX, what is the exact command you are using there?
[00:43] <DrX> I'm running fgrep '[DATA]' -R but it's taking a year and a day
[00:43] <DrX> locate
[00:43] <unop> simply locate?
[00:44] <pebee> hi - i came in abt an hour ago with what I thought was an X problem - having been into the deepst darkest depths of the X configurations and come back I still have the problem - I don't have any panels, screenlets or compizfusion on my desktop, jsut wallpaper and icons --- can anyone help?
[00:44] <ugd> hello...?
[00:44] <pebee> ugd: hi?
[00:45] <ugd> sorry ok
[00:45] <unop> pebee, does  alt+f2  bring the run dialog up ?
[00:45] <DrX> unop: yes
[00:45] <pebee> unop: nope
[00:46] <alraune> !grep>alraune
[00:46] <unop> DrX, fgrep '[DATA]' -R  -- is probably sitting there waiting for you to enter something, if that's the exact command you are using
[00:46] <unop> DrX, fgrep '[DATA]' -R  /path/to/*
[00:46] <Firstmate> How do you install BitchX?
[00:47] <Firstmate> I tried the bash script, tried through synaptic
[00:47] <Valleypj> how do I fix sudo its not working in eather my administor account (super user) or my desktop user
[00:47] <unop> DrX,  you might want to run sudo updatedb to recreate  locate/slocate's cache
[00:47] <Brucee> is there any way to make macromedia flash 8 to work with ubuntu hardy ?
[00:47] <Pirate_Hunter> Firstmate: have you tired google simple search such as ubuntu and the app name
[00:48] <Brucee> i have read in google a bit, can't seem to find a way to make it work
[00:48] <unop> Valleypj, boot into the recovery mode .. and ensure that the users you want to be able to use sudo are in the admin group
[00:48] <Valleypj> ok thank you
[00:48] <unop> Brucee, does it have to be flash 8, not newer?
[00:48] <Brucee> yeah newer will be fine
[00:49] <unop> Brucee, sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[00:49] <unop> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[00:49] <Brucee> i mean, the maker, not the player, sorry for misexplaining
[00:49] <alraune> dpkg --get-selections > PAKETS.txt   is the cmd to get installed packets, how do I reinstall them ? /ubottu knows, anyone the right trigger for it ?
[00:49] <Brucee> flash 8 to create flashes
[00:50] <unop> !clone > alraune
[00:50] <unop> Brucee, hmm, no, you will probably need to install it under wine
[00:50] <alraune> thanks unop !!
[00:51] <Brucee> ok, unop thanks
[00:51] <alraune> !automate>alraune
[00:51] <htrg> hello
[00:51] <htrg> i need help please
[00:52] <htrg> i cant use apt-get how i can install it?
[00:52] <pebee> htrg: please specify the problem
[00:52] <DrX> unop: no it ran and completed in /etc but found nothing
[00:52] <belorix> ok people, i install phpmyadmin, but its not being added to my WWW directory
[00:52] <pebee> htrg: are you sudo?
[00:52] <htrg> -bash: apt-get: command not found
[00:52] <htrg> yeah
[00:52] <DrX> unop: I think it's going on / but you know that's going to take a while
[00:52] <htrg> i'm root
[00:53] <_jason> htrg: try the full path to apt-get
[00:53] <unop> htrg, sudo /usr/bin/apt-get ....
[00:53] <Blaqlight> can I set my nickname to only accept PM's from registered nicks?
[00:53] <DrX> unop: and I don't know the /path/to/* that's the problem
[00:53] <juannicolas> hi, can someone help me please. Im trying to install postgres and getting this errors: http://pastebin.com/mf059b70
[00:53] <htrg> [root@superabdou root]# sudo /usr/bin/apt-get
[00:53] <htrg> sudo: /usr/bin/apt-get: command not found
[00:54] <_jason> Blaqlight: that's default
[00:54] <unop> htrg, does aptitude work?
[00:54] <unop> htrg, sudo aptitude install apt
[00:54] <htrg> sudo: aptitude: command not found
[00:54] <pebee> htrg: download the pagkaged from packages.ubuntu.com?
[00:54] <htrg> Linux superabdou.flexvps.co.uk 2.6.9-023stab044.11-enterprise #1 SMP Sun Sep 30 12:15:39 MSD 2007 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[00:54] <DrX> unop:  i also tried ... -R samba.conf.*
[00:54] <bastid_raZor> htrg; what does lsb_release -a tell you?
[00:54] <unop> htrg, is this some customised installation ??
[00:55] <htrg> i dont know:s give me cmd and i type it
[00:55] <Skiessi> anyone knows any working olympic stream?
[00:55] <unop> DrX, hmm, guess you will have to wait it out then
[00:55] <pebee> htrg: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.7.9ubuntu17.tar.gz
[00:55] <bastid_raZor> htrg; lsb_release -a
[00:56] <DrX> unop sudo updatedb ???
[00:56] <_jason> Blaqlight: if you type '/msg nickserv help' and poke around, you'll find the setting
[00:56] <htrg> done
[00:56] <htrg> [root@superabdou root]# lsb_release -a
[00:56] <htrg> -bash: lsb_release: command not found
[00:56] <unop> htrg, is this machine your own .. or something a provider lets you use?
[00:56] <htrg> noo my machine is working
[00:56] <Blaqlight> _jason, if its default then I don't need to mess with it.
[00:56] <htrg> wanna need install apt-get for install gcc and make
[00:56] <_jason> !offtopic | skiessi
[00:57] <equim--> lspci lists my network card but it isn't recognised as a network interface - any ideas?
[00:57] <unop> htrg, how did you install this then?
[00:57] <pebee> htrg: can you use synaptic?
[00:57] <sparr> is there a filtering proxy for linux that can decrypt ssl sessions like proxomitron for windows?
[00:57] <unop> htrg, i mean ubuntu ..
[00:57] <Blaqlight> htrg, I beileve thats all part or build-essential.
[00:57] <Blaqlight> or == of
[00:57] <Skiessi> it's not offtopic if I'm trying to get something to work on ubuntu
[00:57] <htrg> i'm at SHH root now
[00:58] <unop> htrg, ok, this machine you are sshing into now -- does it run ubuntu?  did you install ubuntu on that machine?
[00:58] <spider> how can i restore the updates i did last night?
[00:58] <ubuntu> Skiessi: yes: "Don't give up, don't hesitate, do sport and be happy" or something like this :)
[00:58] <_jason> Skiessi: asking for the location of an olympic stream is *offtopic* here.  Ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:58] <htrg> i dont know
[00:59] <Blaqlight> Skiessi, you might check NBC.com :D
[00:59] <Pirate_Hunter> Skiessi: what are you trying to get working?
[00:59] <mbrigdan> where are the configuration files kept for screen savers?
[00:59] <spider> how can i restore the updates i did last night?
[00:59] <ubuntu> Can the /boot partition be shared with another linux system, i.e. sda1 - /boot, sda2 - "/" of kubuntu and sda3 - "/" of ubuntu?
[00:59] <unop> htrg,   cat  /etc/issue*
[00:59] <htrg> Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang)
[00:59] <htrg> Kernel \r on an \m
[00:59] <htrg> Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang)
[00:59] <htrg> Kernel \r on an \m
[00:59] <unop> ubuntu, yes .. but it is definitely not recommended
[00:59] <_jason> ubuntu: yes
[00:59] <Blaqlight> ubuntu, its shared by all linux systems if its a /boot partition.
[01:00] <Daisuke-Laptop> uh
[01:00] <Pirate_Hunter> is there a way to find out why an application would take 99% cpu i.e. deluge 0.9.05?
[01:00] <_jason> htrg: /join #fedora
[01:00] <unop> htrg, that machine runs fedora -- not ubuntu .. please ask people in #fedora how to install gcc, etc
[01:00] <Blaqlight> Pirate_Hunter, USE HTOP OR AN EQUIVELANT
[01:00] <Daisuke-Laptop> ubuntu: you know you don't have to install ubuntu and kubuntu separately, right?
[01:00] <Blaqlight> sorry about the caps.
[01:00] <htrg> ok sorry
[01:00] <Pirate_Hunter> Blaqlight: would top do?
[01:00] <spider> how can i restore the updates i did last night?
[01:00] <htrg> thank you unop .... Blaqlight ... akk
[01:00] <htrg> all
[01:01] <_jason> Pirate_Hunter: you'd have to debug it.  Your best bet is to work with deluge devs.  Check their bug tracker too
[01:01] <Blaqlight> Pirate_Hunter, htop is a little friendlier on the eyes but yeah.
[01:01] <bastid_raZor> htrg; goodluck and compile on
[01:01] <htrg> thx
[01:01] <pebee> unop: did you think about my problem? the missing panels and screenlets, no run on alt F2 etc... i'm clueless with this one
[01:01] <Pirate_Hunter> _jason, Blaqlight: kk ty
[01:01] <spider> i hate ubuntu whenever i update from the update manger it always suck to my web browser
[01:01] <unop> pebee, can you use nautilus to open up stuff on the desktop ??
[01:02] <Blaqlight> spider, huh?
[01:02] <spider> so anyway to recover what i have updated?
[01:02] <ubuntu> ok, then what file system and space are recommended for /boot partition since I wanted to use XFS for all 'partitions'
[01:02] <Pirate_Hunter> spider: what does that even mean, please explain?
[01:02] <_jason> spider: you need to be a little more specific or rephrase what you want to do.  I don't really understand what you want
[01:02] <unop> ubuntu, ext2 is fine .. ext3 little better
[01:02] <Blaqlight> ubuntu, you should need more than a few hundred MB
[01:02] <pebee> unop: yeah no problems, i can get terminal and all apps i've thought to try
[01:02] <Blaqlight> shouldn't*
[01:02] <unop> pebee, so you can get to the terminal??
[01:02] <Blaqlight> darn keys....
[01:03] <pebee> unop: yeah - am using irc in terminal right now
[01:03] <spider> I want to recover/restore to the old version of everything on my ubuntu
[01:03] <saiki> Blaqlight: now you're sounding like me
[01:03] <unop> pebee, does this command bring up the panels??   gnome-panel &
[01:03] <saiki> can anyone tell me why i get this error?:
[01:03] <saiki> saiki@saiki-desktop:~/Desktop/vmware-server-distrib$ arecord -f S16_LE | aplay
[01:03] <saiki> *** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refused
[01:03] <saiki> aplay: main:546: audio open error: Connection refused
[01:03] <saiki> *** PULSEAUDIO: Unable to connect: Connection refused
[01:03] <saiki> arecord: main:546: audio open error: Connection refused
[01:03] <FloodBot2> saiki: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:03] <Blaqlight> saiki, I had alot of coffee... its my excuse and Im sticking to it :D
[01:03] <babo_> metasploit isn't in the universe ?
[01:03] <pebee> unop: looks like it uninstalled itself
[01:03] <doggymenz> babo, metasploit is not free open source software, it is proprietary
[01:04] <saiki> stupid bot...
[01:04] <spider> no one answers me
[01:04] <pebee> gnome-panel &
[01:04] <Blaqlight> !patience | spider
[01:04] <alraune> !usb>alraune
[01:04] <doggymenz> spider,  :(
[01:04] <spider> :(
[01:04] <doggymenz> spider, i dont know how todo that
[01:04] <doggymenz> spider, maybe not opssible
[01:04] <saiki> spider: not everyone knows what you need, or what you are asking for that matter
[01:04] <alraune> !mount>alraune
[01:04] <unop> saiki, no, the bots just programmed to counter flooding/spamming -- please use a pastebin
[01:04] <babo_> doggymenz, since when ?
[01:05] <doggymenz> babo, since always
[01:05] <spider> now i couldn't use my web browser
[01:05] <ryanakca> How can I burn a DVD .iso to a *DVD-RAM* from the command line? ``sudo growisofs -dvdcompat -Z /dev/sda2=/home/ryan/dvd.iso'' give ``:-( /dev/dvd2: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0''
[01:05] <Pirate_Hunter> spider: ok why are you trying to restore previous updates? what happeneed and why does your browser suck?you ahvent given much info to work with
[01:05] <unop> pebee, sudo aptitude install gnome-panel
[01:05] <doggymenz> babo, http://metasploit.com/svn/framework3/trunk/documentation/LICENSE look it uses its custom license
[01:05] <pebee> unop: I have loads of errors but i know what the problem is now - conflicting packages from a game installed earlier
[01:05] <pebee> unop thanks for the help :D
[01:05] <Blaqlight> spider explain the entire problem in one post so that we know what the problem is, if you don't we can't help you.
[01:06] <Pirate_Hunter> Blaqlight: i bet he/she is thinking freaking retards :)
[01:06] <unop> Pirate_Hunter, language ..
[01:06] <Blaqlight> Pirate_Hunter, well if thats the case then we certainly can't help him/her.
[01:06] <spider> Pirate_Hunter: I updated everything that are new from the update manager last night... I did that many times and it everytime i update them my web browser are always suck which is couldn't display any page even google.com. So i need to use the previous version.
[01:06] <Pirate_Hunter> unop: wow sorry didnt htink that would be against
[01:07] <unop> Pirate_Hunter, pretend you're 8 year old neice is listening .. :)
[01:07] <DrunkenMuppet> Is there any easy to follow instructions for installing Moonlight?
[01:07] <z00s> all right, i'm trying to resize my ubuntu partition.  i'm currently booting from a livecd and i'm in gparted.  i've resized my windows partition down 30 gigs and it's showing 30 gigs of unallocated space, however i cannot increase the size of my ubuntu partition.  i've made sure /dev/sda1 isn't mounted.  can anyone assist me?
[01:08] <Blaqlight> Id be so in trouble by now if that were the case... cause even though I wouldn't be typing it, I sure would be screaming it... lol
[01:08] <Pirate_Hunter> spider: so it isnt the update its the browser still dont get by the term browser sucks but yeha it could be that your browser isnt connecting online
[01:08] <Pirate_Hunter> unop: ok
[01:08] <alraune> !loop>alraune
[01:08] <babo_> pptp client ?
[01:08] <saiki> unop: that was fram from flooding
[01:08] <alraune> !force>alraune
[01:08] <saiki> far*
[01:09] <Pirate_Hunter> saiki: that was flooding if you dont like it complain to the bot :)
[01:09] <Blaqlight> z00s, you must create a partition first before you can resize it.
[01:09] <pebee> unop: back again just to check if sdl will be causing problems with parts of gnome?
[01:09] <saiki> Pirate_Hunter: I think I will!
[01:09] <saiki> anywho...
[01:09] <saiki> anyone got any ideas as to what causes that?
[01:09] <z00s> so i have to turn that unallocated partition into an ext3 partition in order to enlarge my ubuntu partition?
[01:09] <spider> Pirate_Hunter: If my ubuntu is not connected how could i be here and asking you? see? i can do everything except the browser. It doesnt matter what kinda browser that ubuntu support it all dead.
[01:10] <Blaqlight> z00s, that sounds like the case, yeah.
[01:10] <Blaqlight> z00s, I may be wrong though.
[01:10] <histo> exit
[01:11] <Pirate_Hunter> spider: i know its to do with one of the files the same ahs happend to me i would need to search for the freaking instructions to help you but tis 01.10 in d mourn here so youll have to be patient and im tired
[01:11] <histo> wth my ignores aren't working hrm...
[01:12] <spider> Pirate_Hunter: come on man
[01:12] <z00s> yeah, that doesn't appear to be it
[01:12] <ty> Hey guys, Can somebody help me with a weird issue I can't figure out?
[01:12] <Blaqlight> z00s, perhaps something is using that partition?
[01:12] <pistorexDD> ubuntu tem pelo no cu
[01:12] <pistorexDD> urubu tem pelo no cu
[01:12] <z00s> nothing is mounted
[01:13] <Pirate_Hunter> spider: doesnt help when im looking and youre goign come on man "how can you be ceratin im a guy? i could be a female, i might be asexual..hmmmm"
[01:13] <Blaqlight> Pirate_Hunter, good point.
[01:13] <pistorexDD> urubu tem pelo no cu
[01:13] <pistorexDD> ?
[01:13] <unop> saiki, if the bot caught you ought, you were flooding -- the ops in this channel have set it that way -- when this channel is busy, you can't have 20 users all doing that at the same time .. and it is common courtesy to put multi-line messages in a pastebin so as to not disrupt the channel
[01:13] <Pirate_Hunter> Blaqlight: yup
[01:13] <pistorexDD> URUBU TEM PELO NO CU PORRA DO CARALHO BANDO DE FILHO DUMA PUTA ARROMBADA
[01:13] <Blaqlight> pistorexDD, its english only here.
[01:13] <unop> pebee, no, it shouldn't
[01:14] <pistorexDD> Blaqlight ¬¬
[01:14] <Pirate_Hunter> unop: come on thats sweraing to the max ban him pistorexDD
[01:14] <pistorexDD> URUBU TEM PELO NO CU PORRA DO CARALHO BANDO DE FILHO DUMA PUTA ARROMBADA
[01:14] <pistorexDD> URUBU TEM PELO NO CU PORRA DO CARALHO BANDO DE FILHO DUMA PUTA ARROMBADA
[01:14] <pistorexDD> URUBU TEM PELO NO CU PORRA DO CARALHO BANDO DE FILHO DUMA PUTA ARROMBADA
[01:14] <pistorexDD> URUBU TEM PELO NO CU PORRA DO CARALHO BANDO DE FILHO DUMA PUTA ARROMBADA
[01:14] <pistorexDD> URUBU TEM PELO NO CU PORRA DO CARALHO BANDO DE FILHO DUMA PUTA ARROMBADA
[01:14] <FloodBot2> pistorexDD: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:14] <pistorexDD> URUBU TEM PELO NO CU PORRA DO CARALHO BANDO DE FILHO DUMA PUTA ARROMBADA
[01:14] <Blaqlight> ok then.
[01:14] <Vibys> in the system monitor, processes tab..there is some process appearing the disappearing, its to fast to identify what it is..any ideas on how i can find out that it is?
[01:14] <unop> Pirate_Hunter, i'm not an op :/
[01:14] <spider> but the man can be used for both
[01:14] <dusty_> Hey guys, I have two nameservers which I am trying to protect using iptables.  The problem is when I bring up iptables, I cannot resolve dns queries.  I can't even telnet to port 53 on the server, I don't understand as I thought i've unblocked 53 and the others... http://rafb.net/p/H4VgPD22.html is my script can anyone see what i'm doing wrong ?
[01:14] <Pirate_Hunter> unop: ahhh you should be
[01:15] <unop> Pirate_Hunter, i don't want to be .. hence the name un-op...
[01:15] <Blaqlight> Id love to get one of those unaffiliated hostmasks...
[01:15] <unop> :)
[01:15] <Rockbuddy> ._.
[01:15] <doggymenz> Blaqlight, register your name with NickServ
[01:15] <Blaqlight> doggymenz, I have, thats not how you get one.
[01:16] <Druui> greetings all
[01:16] <unop> dusty_, dns works atop udp .. not telnet, which is why you can't telnet on port 53 (telnet uses tcp)
[01:16] <alraune> !register>alarune
[01:16] <unop> dusty_, err. s/not telnet/not tcp/
[01:16] <alraune> !register>alraune
[01:16] <KnitGal> i am looking for 1 cd  linux distro that support rpm
[01:16] <sam_delta> hello, in which channel can i get programming assistance?
[01:16] <dusty_> ok how do i fix iptables to make it work i cant query the nameserver when they are up
[01:16] <unop> alraune, you can talk to ubottu in private -- /query ubottu
[01:16] <Blaqlight> KnitGal, CD.. or DVD?
[01:16] <KnitGal> cd
[01:16] <doggymenz> Blaqlight, then you aply for one
[01:17] <_jason> sam_delta: the channel for the language you are programming in is usually your best bet
[01:17] <Pirate_Hunter> spider: /resolv/conf thats the file to add your nameservers once you do that browser will be bacn and you may notice an increase in speed
[01:17] <unop> dusty_, allow 53/udp in
[01:17] <spider> sam_delta: try on its name example #c
[01:17] <Blaqlight> KnitGal, ubuntu has a minimal install disc
[01:17] <Fobos_> hi
[01:17] <sam_delta> alright _jason and spider, thanks
[01:17] <Fobos_> who use weechat?
[01:17] <dusty_> unop, look at the pastebin.
[01:17] <Blaqlight> !minimal | KnitGal
[01:17] <z00s> can anyone else assist me with gparted?
[01:17] <Blaqlight> Fobos_, I do sometimes..
[01:18] <doggymenz> Blaqlight, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[01:18] <_jason> z00s: best to just ask the channel your question again
[01:18] <spider> Pirate_Hunter: wait but tell me how to get there  /resolv/conf
[01:18] <bastid_raZor> KnitGal; you're looking for a red hat distro.. that has rpm's
[01:18] <Pirate_Hunter> spider: if you want to know how to work with that file google it using ubuntu resolv.conf it wont take long to find the tut i looked at also im lazy its late and i ahvent slept yet
[01:18] <z00s> ﻿all right, i'm trying to resize my ubuntu partition.  i'm currently booting from a livecd and i'm in gparted.  i've resized my windows partition down 30 gigs and it's showing 30 gigs of unallocated space, however i cannot increase the size of my ubuntu partition.  i've made sure /dev/sda1 isn't mounted.  can anyone assist me?
[01:18] <Fishscene> I typed in "man ftp" in the terminal. How do I get out of the manual?
[01:18] <Blaqlight> bastid_raZor, ubuntu can support RPM's
[01:18] <Pirate_Hunter> spider: /etc/resolv.conf
[01:18] <Pirate_Hunter> Fishscene: press q
[01:18] <Fishscene> Thanks :)
[01:19] <Pirate_Hunter> Blaqlight: i thought u had to use alien to convert those
[01:19] <_jason> z00s: afaik, there are restrictions on how you can increase.  The free space has to be after the partition you are increasing.  Is that the case?
[01:19] <bastid_raZor> KnitGal; http://www.rpm.org/
[01:19] <Blaqlight> Fishscene, or you can use CRTL Z to get back to just a prompt without closing the window.
[01:19] <spider> Pirate_Hunter: it really great if you help me how to work with that file since i cannot do searching via web browsers
[01:19] <Fishscene> Blaq, that wasn't working for the manual. "q" worked though. :)
[01:19] <Blaqlight> Pirate_Hunter, you do, but it still does in a manner of speaking..
[01:19] <Druui> partitioning is the interesting part. mhmm
[01:20] <unop> dusty_, not being rude .. but my previous statement stands -- you are not allowing udp traffic on port 53 in i.e. --dport 53
[01:20] <Doska> hi ALL i want to install flash player, follow adobe instructions and i get an error
[01:20] <Blaqlight> Fishscene, in gnome-term it does.
[01:20] <MrPickle> trying to open and view the source code of a windows .exe file; does anyone know a good app [preferably in the repos], or a mod for gedit that I could do this with?
[01:20] <Fishscene> ohok. I'm using ssh.
[01:20] <_jason> Doska: just install the flashplugin-nonfree package from multiverse
[01:20] <Druui> how many paritions you have, Z00s?
[01:20] <Pirate_Hunter> spider: oh yeha forgot like i said tired ok let me look at my saved sample and direct you
[01:20] <Blaqlight> Fishscene, ahh ok
[01:20] <z00s> yes, that is _jason
[01:20] <Doska> how?
[01:21] <z00s> Druui: 3.  windows, ubuntu, swap
[01:21] <_jason> Doska: have you enabled the multiverse repository?
[01:21] <unop> dusty_, and don't restrict based on --srcport for dns queries either ,, some dns queries might be sent in datagrams that have a srcport of 53 itself
[01:21] <Druui> is that in order correct, z00s?
[01:21] <spider> Pirate_Hunter: it is only nameserver there... hehe and i guess my nameservers are correct.
[01:21] <z00s> Druui: yes
[01:21] <Fishscene> Would anyone know how to connect to a remote samba share via terminal/SSH?
[01:21] <Doska> i don't know this is a fresh install of hardy
[01:21] <Druui> delete swap first
[01:21] <Druui> then click on linux one and increase it
[01:21] <Doska> _jason i also want FF3 final
[01:21] <Druui> after you done it, then add swap.
[01:21] <Druui> then apply.
[01:22] <unop> MrPickle, there is no way you can view the source code for a compiled executable .. it's an impossibility
[01:22] <Fobos_> give me charset plugin for weechat
[01:22] <Blaqlight> Druui, ahhh I couldn't figure it out :D
[01:22] <Druui> :D
[01:22] <Druui> i did figure it out recently.. like several minutes ago
[01:22] <Doska> i downloaded both packages, they're on the desktop _jason
[01:22] <Blaqlight> so /swap was the problem?
[01:22] <_jason> Doska: go to system -> administration -> software sources and tick universe, multiverse, updates, and security (I do not recommend backports or proposed)
[01:22] <Druui> :)
[01:22] <Druui> learning is a good experience for myself. :3
[01:22] <z00s> Druui: ok, so i need to delete the swap partition, resize down the windows partition, then resize up the ubuntu partition, then recreate teh swap partition?
[01:22] <z00s> is that the correct sequence?
[01:22] <Blaqlight> learning just gives me a headache.
[01:22] <Druui> ooer
[01:22] <manslut> i've installed tightvnc and it works as a charm. however, i don't know how to set up httpd on it. -httpd options needs a java class path or something, any thoughts?
[01:23] <z00s> ooer?
[01:23] <_jason> Doska: you don't download packages manually to install things, it's much easier on linux, but you need to do it once to know about it.  Let me know when you are done with the above
[01:23] <Pirate_Hunter> spider: yup that does the trick most fo the times and no your nameservers arent always correct, by default it uses the gateway through your router but your router uses nameserver directed by the isp that what you want to add their
[01:23] <MrPickle> repost-- *﻿MrPickle: trying to open and view the source code of a windows .exe file; does anyone know a good app [preferably in the repos], or a mod for gedit that I could do this with?
[01:23] <Druui> i never went that part where i have to resize window and ubuntu part
[01:23] <z00s> =/
[01:23] <Pirate_Hunter> spider: 192.168.XXX.XXX that is probably what you have at leats what i had before i changed it
[01:23] <Druui> hold a moment
[01:23] <unop> MrPickle, did you read what i said to you?
[01:23] <Blaqlight> flashplugin-nonfree is up-to-date on my system yet I can't use flash stuff in FF3... what could be wrong..
[01:24] <Fishscene> MrPickle, it's called "reverse engineering". The Source code is NOT included in EXE files.
[01:24] <MrPickle> unop, dont think I saw that
[01:24] <Doska> ok _jason options are selected
[01:24]  * Druui googling
[01:24] <unop> MrPickle, it is not possible to view the source code of a compiled executable
[01:24] <spider> Pirate_Hunter: nameserver 203.176.128.10
[01:24] <spider> nameserver 203.176.128.11 these are what i have in that file
[01:24] <Pirate_Hunter> spider: you cna get your browser working temporarily by restarting the comp and router (but thats optional i think)
[01:24] <_jason> Doska: good, so close that window and let it reload
[01:25] <Blaqlight> MrPickle, you might check on something called resourcehacker.
[01:25] <Doska> done
[01:25] <z00s> ok, i see how it works now
[01:25] <z00s> you're right
[01:25] <Fobos_> кто есть из росси?
[01:25] <MrPickle> unop, oh.....so if I wanted to crack a simple game and stop a caller which causes the program from loading, id have to use everything *aside* from the .exe
[01:25] <Pirate_Hunter> spider: please dont post that and is that what your router uses, for you to check that you must log into the router
[01:25] <z00s> you can only expand a partition towards the right
[01:25] <MrPickle> ?
[01:25] <z00s> which is bazaar
[01:25] <Blaqlight> !ru | Fobos_
[01:25] <Druui> yes z00s
[01:25] <_jason> Doska: now you can go to system -> administration -> synaptic and install flashplugin-nonfree.  Or just open a shell and do  the command 'sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree'
[01:25] <Druui> move partition to right
[01:25] <Druui> then try expand window
[01:25] <Druui> http://www.howtoforge.com/partitioning_with_gparted
[01:25] <spider> Pirate_Hunter: Hmmm
[01:26] <Doska> good, it is downloading
[01:26] <unop> MrPickle, well, you'll have to have a decent knowledge of reverse engineering to do this .. and that's offtopic for this channel .. perhaps you should redirect this to ##windows .. or ask them where to suitably ask this question.
[01:27] <Pirate_Hunter> spider: like i said you could restart and go into google and look for the file type also get your name servers from your roouter or isp as they would be the ebst people to know it
[01:27] <Druui> after resizing, then add swap after linux one.
[01:27] <Doska> _jason good, i like terminal, but how to know all the lines? example for FF3?
[01:27] <Blaqlight> my cooling fan seems to not to want to come on... Ive gotta fix this mess. bbs
[01:27] <Druui> and apply. it might takes while to resize and move data along
[01:28] <MrPickle> unop, that does make sense...because I actually have an app on my windows machine that lets me view the hex code of any .exe file around. I just thought Id ask here first to see if anyone knew of a mod like hat in the repos. [the hacker types scare me]
[01:28] <_jason> Doska: you'll have to restart firefox after it installs.  To update the rest of your system, there should be an update icon in your tray (if there isn't, it will show up soon when it checks for new software).  If you don't want to wait, go to synaptic and hit 'reload' or run 'sudo aptitude update'.  That should give you the icon in the tray.  Here is the apt commands tutorial if you like the...
[01:28] <_jason> ...shell:
[01:28] <_jason> !apt > Doska
[01:29] <unop> !info hexedit | MrPickle
[01:29] <Doska> thanks _jason i wil read it
[01:30] <MrPickle> !thank | unop
[01:30] <emoless_> how do i join multiple channels via irssi?
[01:30]  * Pirate_Hunter well of to bed people see yah around
[01:30] <MrPickle> [and thats why ubottu is inferior to human beings]
[01:30] <MrPickle> thanks, unop
[01:30] <Druui> ubottu? :)
[01:30] <penguat> hello, could anyone point me to how to add a shortcut to gnome terminal on my upper toolbar
[01:30] <penguat> where I have the shortcuts to firefox and evolution
[01:30] <PaymentRequired> emoless_: /join <channel>
[01:30] <unop> emoless_,  /join #channel1,#channel2,etc  perhaps
[01:31] <unop> MrPickle, yw
[01:31] <penguat> in irssi you use alt+a number to move to another channel you're in
[01:31] <PaymentRequired> and to switch between, /window <Mnumber>
[01:31] <penguat> to join a new one, try "/join #<new channel>"
[01:31] <unop> penguat, right click the panel .. add launcher ?
[01:32] <penguat> and done
[01:33] <penguat> that's changed since I last looked there
[01:33] <penguat> it used to be dreadful
[01:33] <penguat> now: simple
[01:33] <penguat> pick it from the menu
[01:33] <penguat> :D thanks
[01:35] <e-ogma> hello
[01:36] <nickrud> now that was interesting
[01:37] <fizzik_> ok i need some help
[01:37] <DozedOnLinux> nickrud : whats the difference between ifconfig wlan0 down and ifdown wlan0 ? seems to be ifconfig works when ifdown dont. is there a reason for this ?
[01:38] <fizzik_> it wont let me increase my resolution past 1024x768 and it shows it stuck at 50hz refresh rate?
[01:38] <DozedOnLinux> snickrud: sometimes i cant use ifdown, yet ifconfig down will. dont know what to make of it
[01:38] <nickrud> DozedOnLinux ifdown wlan0 takes parameters from /etc/network/interfaces, ifconfig doesn't (as I remember it)
[01:39] <DozedOnLinux> nickrud: makes sense, thank you
[01:39] <havxi> ?
[01:39] <srbaker> heya folks
[01:39] <srbaker> i need to make a custom hardy disc, with the kernel from intrepid
[01:40] <srbaker> i know there are some tools to ease this, but i forget what they are, can someone help?
[01:40] <srbaker> just name the tools will be sufficient
[01:41] <bnovc> does anyone know how i can get pangocairo, it doesn't seem to be part of libcairo2-dev
[01:41] <cornkid> help
[01:42] <cornkid> Hello.
[01:42] <cornkid> er... hello
[01:42] <cornkid> help
[01:43] <cornkid> ...
[01:43] <cornkid> is this a room?
[01:43] <infinitycircuit> cornkid, yes, this is #ubuntu
[01:43] <cornkid> thank you.
[01:43] <ryanakca> How can I burn a DVD .iso to a *DVD-RAM* from the command line? ``sudo growisofs -dvdcompat -Z /dev/sda2=/home/ryan/dvd.iso'' give ``:-( /dev/dvd2: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0''
[01:43] <infinitycircuit> !ping | cornkid
[01:43]  * ]K[^Omegadoom Ping |  Could not be resolved to an IP address
[01:44] <cornkid> ping cornkid
[01:44] <cornkid> lol
[01:44] <cornkid> im not giving you my ip
[01:44] <eduardo> hi, how do i get the lasest version of firefox, and get rid of the old ones? thanks!
[01:44] <teq> hi, how do i get the lasest version of firefox, and get rid of the old ones? thanks!
[01:44] <cornkid> hm
[01:44] <belorix> Can someone tell me a GUI for MYSQL under ubuntu thats like SQLyog or Navicat
[01:45] <jbroome> belorix: phpmysql
[01:45] <ForTiLLiaN> yea, im using phpmysql and it works great
[01:46] <cornkid> dude with the iso question still here?
[01:46] <cornkid> its pretty easy...
[01:47] <coffinzm> Hello!  I am dunning a distro of dapper on a touchscreen computer.  The screen works fine for moving my cursor, but whenever I select a new point on the screen the touch screen sends an endless stream of left clicks to that coordinate.  Any ideas?
[01:47] <ryanakca> cornkid: burning to dvd-ram?
[01:48] <wols_> !dapper
[01:48] <Serval> Hi, I'm looking for an IRC channel that posts lots of text per second, does anyone know of one?
[01:48] <wols_> Serval: can't exist on freenode. it's also OT
[01:49] <jbroome> Serval: this one does :)
[01:49] <infinitycircuit> Serval, #ubuntu probably has the most
[01:49] <cornkid> :sigh:
[01:49] <cornkid> this is really annoying with the comments / status information
[01:49] <cornkid> is there a way to disable this?
[01:49] <teq> hi, how do i get the lasest version of firefox, and get rid of the old ones? thanks!
[01:50] <spider> i doubt that is there away to restore to the previous version ?
[01:50] <wols_> teq: apt-get install it
[01:50] <DozedOnLinux> cornkid: what client are you using ?
[01:50] <cornkid> manually?
[01:50] <cornkid> im using xchat
[01:50] <spider> teq: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[01:50] <infinitycircuit> teq, that's a very vague question. you obviously did something if you have "old ones" so why not explain that?
[01:50] <LOWER_CASE> I'm trying to use the parallel port, but it's saying it's "already in use".  How do I find out what has opened it, please?
[01:50] <cornkid> well, im sure the distro came with it
[01:50] <wols_> LOWER_CASE: lsof, fuser
[01:50] <spider> yeah
[01:51] <ForTiLLiaN> is there a program to limit the global bandwith output of ubuntu?
[01:51] <spider> but my firefox is dead
[01:51] <cornkid> dead?
[01:51] <cornkid> then uninstall it
[01:51] <spider> i did
[01:51] <cornkid> rebuild
[01:51] <wols_> ForTiLLiaN: yes. check lartc.org
[01:51] <cornkid> sudo apt-get install
[01:51] <ForTiLLiaN> thanks wols_
[01:51] <spider> and get it install back it still dead
[01:51] <spider> lolz
[01:51] <cornkid> well then... you probably didnt completely remove it
[01:51] <wols_> spider: delete your ffox dotfiles
[01:51] <ryanakca> How can I burn a DVD .iso to a *DVD-RAM* from the command line? ``sudo growisofs -dvdcompat -Z /dev/sda2=/home/ryan/dvd.iso'' give ``:-( /dev/dvd2: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0''
, thanks.
[01:52] <cornkid> ah, does your drive support ram?
[01:52] <spider> wols_: how to do that please explain
[01:52] <wols_> spider: man rm
[01:53] <spider> wols_: what? oops forget tell u i am a noob lolz
[01:53] <ryanakca> cornkid: ... it should, it has been around since the mid 90s... how would I check? :)
[01:53] <wols_> spider: no need to tell, I can see that without telling
[01:53] <spider> wols_: so details plz
[01:54] <wols_> spider: there are firefox config files in your home directory under .mozilla most likely remove or move them. then run firefox
[01:54] <Echtelion78> Evening :)
[01:55] <spider> wols_: I don't even know where all application store to :( if you could tell me it directly clearly it would be nice of you :)
[01:55] <Echtelion78> I got boot configuration problems
[01:55] <wols_> spider: I just did
[01:56] <infinitycircuit> spider, he just told you: ~/.mozilla
[01:56] <cornkid> sorry man ryanaka, but i dont know how to determine if you can/cant write to RAM
[01:56] <ironfroggy> anyone know about problems with the python-central package not installing properly? its telling me a bunch of python-twisted-* things arent installed, but if they are deps why arent they installed automatically?
[01:56] <cornkid> ryanaka: try growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=/tmp/var-www-disk1.iso
[01:56] <cactaur> Hey, is there a program to create a custom Ubuntu LiveCD?
[01:57] <spider> home/spider/
[01:57] <spider> there are only Desktop Document...
[01:57] <cornkid> cactaur: there is a tutorial on that
[01:58] <cornkid> cactaur: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-linux-mint-livecd-with-remastersys
[01:58] <wols_> ryanakca: did you install udftools?
[01:58] <cornkid> cactuar: *using Remastersys
[01:58] <Licio> My webcam model is Logitch QuickCam 8.4.6(for windows). My system is Ubuntu 8.04.(Linux). I don't know how to connect myself with others using Ekiga, but I see my own image on the computer screen. When I use Yahoo Messenger.. I neither see myself on the screen nor people can see me. Can anybody help me with this?
[01:58] <Rapottre> ubuntu is love
[01:58] <Rapottre> I can't get enough of it
[01:58] <wols_> !custom cd
[01:58] <ryanakca> wols_: ah, thanks
[01:58] <Rapottre> got it about a few months ago
[01:59] <Rapottre> Way better than windows
[01:59] <spider> infinitycircuit: can you please more specific?
[01:59] <Ahadiel> !offtopic | Rapottre
[01:59] <wols_> Rapottre: do you have a ubuntu support question?
[01:59] <cornkid> anyone here know anything about writing custom drivers for usb-controlled circuits?
[01:59] <Rapottre> not really
[01:59] <Rapottre> Just being here.
[01:59] <infinitycircuit> spider, not really
[01:59] <wols_> Rapottre: then please don't spam the channel. thank you
[01:59] <Rapottre> well
[01:59] <Rapottre> I need to know how
[01:59] <Rapottre> to make ubuntu
[01:59] <wols_> !enter
[01:59] <infinitycircuit> spider, apps -> accessories -> terminal and type "mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old
[02:00] <Rapottre> BLOW up my computer
[02:00] <Rapottre> =]
[02:00] <Rapottre> Just kidding
[02:00] <Rapottre> I'm a spammer
[02:00] <wols_> Pici: can you please take some action?
[02:00] <_jason> Rapottre: we use this channel for helping users.  Join us in #ubuntu-ofttopic for joking around
[02:00] <cactaur> cornkid: Thanks!
[02:00] <theunixgeek> http://digg.com/linux_unix/An_Open_Letter_to_Ubuntu
[02:00] <infinitycircuit> Rapottre, go triage some bugs or something http://tinyurl.com/dont-spam
[02:00] <spider> infinitycircuit: spider@spider:~$ mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old
[02:00] <spider> spider@spider:~$
[02:01] <beardo> hello, all! i'm having an issue reinstalling 8.04 after changing hardware config. what is the livecd's login and pass?
[02:01] <Blaqlight> are there any other flash plugins for firefox I can use, flashplugin-nonfree doesn't work.
[02:01] <infinitycircuit> Blaqlight, you can try gnash let's see if there is a factoid
[02:01] <infinitycircuit> !gnash | Blaqlight
[02:01] <wols_> Blaqlight: gnash and swfdec. but I dounbt you want those unless you run 64bit ubuntu. and even then
[02:01] <pyrite1978> Anyone able to give me (a noob) a little assistance/advice on Ubuntu Hardy, useing a Radeon HD3650 video card?
[02:02] <cornkid> driver-wise?
[02:02] <wols_> !fglrx | pyrite1978
[02:02] <LOWER_CASE> parallel port again: I found it's trying to open /dev/parport0, but this is not in lsof. fuser shows nothing.
[02:02] <Blaqlight> thanks all :D
[02:02] <infinitycircuit> pyrite1978, that card is 100% supported
[02:02] <cornkid> got lucky! lol
[02:02] <infinitycircuit> restricted drivers manager should do it all for you with fglrx
[02:03] <spider> infinitycircuit: spider@spider:~$ mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old
[02:03] <spider> mv: cannot stat `/home/spider/.mozilla': No such file or directory
[02:03] <Blaqlight> well... I believe this website uses flash.
[02:03] <infinitycircuit> spider, that's because you did it twice.
[02:03] <LOWER_CASE> parallel port again: Aaaaah, it was trying to open the port exclusively.  Switching it to 'shared' works OK.  Thanks.
[02:03] <pyrite1978> I have used both the ATI site driver, and the one that Ubuntu ask if i want to use after install.
[02:03] <spider> so how can i find that directly?
[02:03] <cornkid> anyone know anything about trying to use the hawking hw854DM by Hawking, or the N1 card (f5d8011) by Belkin?
[02:03] <spider> oh yeah
[02:03] <spider> it moved?
[02:03] <infinitycircuit> pyrite1978, you should not have done both. the ubuntu way should have been enough
[02:03] <cornkid> because i cannot for the life of me find the .inf files necessary
[02:03] <infinitycircuit> spider, yes. mv = MoVe
[02:04] <spider> alright
[02:04] <Blaqlight> yeah its flash...
[02:05] <beardo> can someone tell me what the 8.04 liveCD's login and password is? or why it would ask me for that? i don't remember needing it last time.
[02:05] <cornkid> you shouldnt need it...
[02:05] <beardo> so i'm not crazy
[02:05] <cornkid> try... root/toor
[02:05] <pyrite1978> infinitycircuit: Right, i can get compiz and all that snazzy stuff to work, i stil lhave a few problems   ANY 3d rendering other then compiz results in my screen turning into a slanted checkerboard of garbage.
[02:05] <beardo> no go
[02:05] <cornkid> hm
[02:05] <LOWER_CASE> What's the difference between opening "/dev/parport0" exclusively and shared?
[02:05] <infinitycircuit> beardo, there isn't one. if you need one set go to Ctrl-Alt-F1 and it should already be logged in. then just try "passwd" and set one
[02:05] <MeVsTheVoices> Is my flash player not working the by-product of a recent upgrade, and if so is there a fix?
[02:06] <Blaqlight> also is this the current java plugin : gcjwebplugin.so
[02:06] <infinitycircuit> pyrite1978, what other 3D rendering do you mean? compiz doesn't play nice with a lot of other stuff
[02:06] <beardo> thx, infin... will report back shortly...
[02:06] <beardo> "user not known to the underlying authentication module
[02:07] <cornkid> anyone know a way to ssh into a server without MANUALLY entering a password?
[02:07] <infinitycircuit> beardo, that is very odd. are you sure this is a fresh burn of a good cd?
[02:07] <infinitycircuit> cornkid, what do you mean?
[02:07] <beardo> this is the fifth one today, burnt at 2x speed
[02:07] <MeVsTheVoices> Yea, just leave the generated public key in the acknoledged hosts
[02:07] <cornkid> ssh -l username host..
[02:07] <cornkid> wow, that'll work?
[02:07] <MeVsTheVoices> Yup
[02:07] <cornkid> thanks man!
[02:07] <MeVsTheVoices> No prob
[02:07] <MeVsTheVoices> Ssh-keygen
[02:07] <cornkid> i was writing a python script that did it for me.. lol
[02:08] <cornkid> i didnt think it was necessary
[02:08] <cornkid> now i know
[02:08] <LOWER_CASE> What's the difference between opening "/dev/parport0" exclusively and shared?
[02:08] <MeVsTheVoices> Heh nice, no it should look in .ssh folder for one, then the server will authenticate
[02:08] <pyrite1978> infinitycircuit: Compiz on or off = same result,   anything windows based thru Wine = screen turning to garbage, sometimes opeing a simple native window will result in that as well..  the first time i opened the Wine Config window it trashed my screen,  typicaly i can ctrl-alt-F1 and kill the process that started the problem, and usualy when i go back to X, the screen is corrected, but not always
[02:08] <SiiD> guys can you gelp? /etc/init.d/mysql not found
[02:08] <SiiD> when trying to do apt-get install mysql-server-5.0
[02:08] <beardo> infinity, i've redone the cd five times today, and swapped cdroms as well, to no avail. that's not to say the cdrom is good, but this one gets me the farthest without eating the cd
[02:08] <SiiD> how can i get /etc/init.d/mysql back?
, I had black screen with wine.  I set wine config "Graphics": / Off:Allow DirectX / Off:Allow the window manager / Checked: Emulate a virtual desktop
[02:11] <alonzo> Hello everyone, I have a few questions / problems... I recently installed World of Warcraft through wine and I am having startup problems. When I try to launch the game I get a WoW critical error and get sent back to the desktop with an error report. I am currently using the latest version of Ubuntu (64 bit) and the most stable version of Wine. I installed the latest Nvidia drivers the other...
[02:11] <alonzo> ...day as well. I've read someone else's problem earlier and someone suggested that WoW is looking for 32bit drivers and can't find them, I am not sure if this is the case with me, if it is I do not know how to go about that.
[02:12] <equim--> hey, if I have a kernel module for 2.6.24-16-generic can I use it for 2.6.24-19-generic?
[02:12] <Swian> I'd be interested in getting WoW running too
[02:12] <Swian> so I'll watch the answers you get alonzo
[02:13] <alonzo> I think it may be a 64 bit conflicting with a 32 bit problem, I personally dont know though
[02:13] <LOWER_CASE> What's the difference between opening "/dev/parport0" exclusively and shared?
[02:14] <spider> infinitycircuit and wols_ wow it's alive now lol thanks guys :)
[02:14] <Swian> I'm running 32 bit, I've read the 64 bit doesn't offer much improvement
[02:14] <paul> hello everybody
[02:14] <newbe1> hello all
[02:14] <Swian> hi
[02:14] <paul> what is this chat room exactly? it is my first time
[02:14] <alonzo> It offers a few more problems from what ive seen, some programs do not like it
[02:15] <Swian> yeah, that's why I went 32bit
[02:15] <pyrite1978> LOWER_CASE: It would seem mine is set up just like yours,  Black screen is not the problem tho..  infact,  i dont think humans can create teh words to describe the kinda distortion i am seeing :P   I can actualy make out some "screen" to it.. i can see some words, and mouse movement, it loke like someone took a puzzle made of square pieces, and placed them randomly on my screen.. about 60000000000000 of them.
[02:15] <LOWER_CASE> What's the difference between opening "/dev/parport0" exclusively and shared?
[02:15] <paul> discussion about ubuntu?
[02:15] <Swian> yes paul
[02:16] <paul> thanks, and you try to solve problems or you just have general discussion? i have downloaded Xirc and i use it
[02:16] <ForTiLLiaN> is there a GUI application to run in ubuntu to configure firewalls, dhcp server and such in iptables? I want something that will manage port forwarding and DHCP reservations.
[02:16] <biggahed> j #ubuntu+1
[02:16] <spider> Is there possible to remove shockwave flash from firefox plugin and install flash-nonfree instead?
[02:16] <Almar> Greetings. How do I flush DNS in Ubuntu?
[02:16] <MeVsTheVoices> Yes
[02:17] <SNuxoll> Almar: you don't
[02:17] <SNuxoll> Almar: Ubuntu doesn't cache DNS requests
[02:17] <paul> anybody?
[02:17] <histo> For some reason i'm not allowed to change resolutions.
[02:17] <MeVsTheVoices> spider, sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree libflashsupport, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree libflashsupport
[02:17] <Almar> SNuxoll, I see. But I can't open a site because my DNS cache is supposedly not 'fresh'.
[02:17] <SNuxoll> Almar: well, that would be your ISP's fault then
[02:17] <newbe1> anyone ever used VirtualBox OSE
[02:17] <thedonvaughn> Almar: are you running your own dns cache server?  If not it's your ISP.
[02:17] <joejoecircusboy> paul:
[02:18] <LOWER_CASE> pyrite1978: sorry no further info.  I only use Wine for Beyond Compare: it's the only Windows app that I miss.
[02:18] <Almar> thedonvaughn, i'm not. and my isp does suck, so it wouldn't surprise me. thanks anyway.
[02:18] <spider> MeVsTheVoices: It will be replaced the shockwave flash rigt?
[02:18] <MeVsTheVoices> Yes
[02:18] <spider> thanks
[02:18] <MeVsTheVoices> np
[02:18] <Genesis> !grub
[02:19] <beardo> infinitycircuit, this is fifth cd i've burnt today, this at 2x burn speed and verified after booting on the computer i'm on now.
[02:19] <newbe1> anyone ever used VirtualBox OSE
[02:20] <SNuxoll> newbe1: yes
[02:20] <SNuxoll> newbe1: but asking if someone has used it doesn't get your question out, does it?
[02:20] <newbe1> SNuxoll:  it work OK
[02:20] <SNuxoll> newbe1: yes, it works fine
[02:20] <LOWER_CASE> What does it mean to open "/dev/parport0" exclusively and shared?
[02:20] <SNuxoll> newbe1: better than VMWare in my experience
[02:20] <komies> Hi, can anyone recommend a program to run a .pls streaming radio file? I can't seem to make rhythmbox do it.
[02:20] <SNuxoll> komies: totem will do it
[02:20] <newbe1> SNuxoll:  going to install it
[02:21] <komies> thanks.
[02:21] <SNuxoll> komies: as will most any decent music player, quod libet, banshee, etc
[02:21] <beardo> infinitycircuit, i'm not doubting the cdrom drive is failing somehow, but i've swapped it already with two others, and swapped ide cables as well. each time i restart and choose 'install ubuntu' it ends on a different error message
[02:21] <blay_> foobar via wine? :p
[02:21] <newbe1> SNuxoll:  the GUI cool
[02:21] <jbroome> komies: audacity wil l too
[02:21] <SNuxoll> newbe1: nothing special about it
[02:21] <spider> purge is to ask for replacement isnt it MeVsTheVoices
[02:21] <SNuxoll> newbe1: you don't see the UI most of the time anyways, assuming you run in fullscreen mode like I do
[02:21] <Blaqlight> does anyone know if there is a xchat sysinfo script that will read libsensors?
[02:21] <newbe1> SNuxoll:  you use XP as other OS
[02:22] <SNuxoll> newbe1: nah, I have a native Vista install on this box, I use VirtualBox for stuff like Haiku and testing other linux distributions
[02:22] <Unknown41740> Oh wow. Hello
[02:22] <SNuxoll> !hi | Unknown41740
[02:22] <goodbyegravity> how lazy :p
[02:22] <newbe1> SNuxoll:  OK
[02:22] <goodbyegravity> A welcome trigger?
[02:22] <Bigb252> :P
[02:23] <beardo> infinitycircuit: it does sometimes throw me into busybox, which i've no clue about, except it seems to use similar, reduced set of linux [unix?] commands
[02:23] <SNuxoll> goodbyegravity: it welcomes him and introduces him to the bot :P
[02:23] <goodbyegravity> Ah, I didn't think about that
[02:23] <Blaqlight> goodbyegravity, there are lots of useful factoids, that one is just for fun.. :D
[02:23] <Bigb252> I need some help with my ubuntu install...I just got my disc in the mail (woot!) and I attempted to install it along XP
[02:23] <SNuxoll> beardo: busybox uses a set of commands compiled into busybox itself
[02:24] <SNuxoll> beardo: that way if your system is trashed and you can't access /bin you still have access to the basics you need
[02:24] <Bigb252> The desktop edition
[02:24] <Phantom-X> i have compiz
[02:24] <Phantom-X> why ahve that blot crap as default WM
[02:24] <Phantom-X> bloat
[02:24] <SNuxoll> Phantom-X: compiz? eh?
[02:24] <goodbyegravity> What bloat crap?
[02:24] <Anscombe> what do i type to get java
[02:24] <Blaqlight> Bigb252, what sorta of help do you need.
[02:24] <Phantom-X> compiz
[02:24] <Phantom-X> its bloat
[02:25] <SNuxoll> Phantom-X: compiz should usually improve performance on your system if you have a decent video card
[02:25] <goodbyegravity> Doesn't push my CPU usage or memory that much higher
[02:25] <Phantom-X> no
[02:25] <goodbyegravity> I can't use a computer without wobbly windows anymore
[02:25] <Phantom-X> it fucks up your vision
[02:25] <beardo> snuxoll, any clue why 8.04 livecd asks for login and tty1 says 'user not known to the underlying auth module" ?
[02:25] <goodbyegravity> lol how?
[02:25] <Phantom-X> and confuse power working
[02:25] <SNuxoll> !language | Phantom-X
[02:25] <Anscombe> what do i type to get java
[02:25] <SNuxoll> Phantom-X: compiz is the most useful window manager I have ever used
[02:25] <Pici> !java > Anscombe
[02:25] <Blaqlight> Phantom-X, please watch your language.
[02:25] <Phantom-X> well being visually impaired i can only conclude compis isnt my friend at all
[02:25] <Bigb252> ‡|Blaqlight|‡ can I pm you?
[02:25] <Phantom-X> its visal crap
[02:25] <SNuxoll> Phantom-X: take away the annoying eyecandy like wobbly windows, enable some extra plugins, tweak your keybindings
[02:26] <Pici> Phantom-X: Do you have a support question?
[02:26] <LOWER_CASE> Last call for alcohol: What does it mean to open "/dev/parport0" exclusively and shared?
[02:26] <Phantom-X> lots of visual crap not necessary for proper work
[02:26] <SNuxoll> Phantom-X: then compiz is actually a productivity enhancer
[02:26] <Phantom-X> just remove it
[02:26] <Phantom-X> for default installation
[02:26] <Blaqlight> Bigb252, no say what you need in here, so that others may help you also.
[02:26] <goodbyegravity> It isn't even turned on by default is it
[02:26] <Phantom-X> or at leeast allow ppl to choose
[02:26] <goodbyegravity> And you can turn it off rather easily
[02:26] <Bigb252> Ok, no problem.
[02:26] <nemes_> Is it possible to check my external IP from a terminal?
[02:26] <goodbyegravity> nemes:  ifconfig
[02:26] <SNuxoll> Phantom-X: I'd suggest you actually tweak your compiz setup before saying all that flamebait
[02:26] <brmassa> guys, i just bought a new MB+SATA2 kit but ubuntu CD is not detecting the new hard drive. only detects the old IDE. what should i do?
[02:26] <Phantom-X> compis isnt a productivity enhancer that total lies
[02:26] <goodbyegravity> Or do you mean from behind a router? :) Sorry
[02:27] <Fizzik> nemes_: if your in a network ifconfig wont tell you your external address
[02:27] <Phantom-X> its wasting computrons on show off nothing else
[02:27] <SNuxoll> Phantom-X: really? how would you know, I doubt you've enabled stuff like the group and shelf plugin
[02:27] <nemes_> goodbyegravity, yes, I meant behind a router
[02:27] <Phantom-X> simple answer :;
[02:27] <Bigb252> When I attempt to run unbuntu from the OS list (right when I turn on my computer) all I get is the busybox command thing - sorry for being so nooby
[02:27] <goodbyegravity> I guess external was the key word there
[02:27] <SNuxoll> Phantom-X: and if you are going to keep trolling, I'll stop feeding you
[02:27] <Fizzik> nemes_, www.whatismyip.com
[02:27] <nemes_> goodbyegravity, my fault :-(
[02:27] <Pici> Phantom-X: If you don't have a support question and are just complaining, you can do so elsewhere, this channel is for support.
[02:27] <Phantom-X> human vision/brain can only interret a limited amount of information per second
[02:27] <Phantom-X> this means colors and effects should be sparse
[02:27] <goodbyegravity> That's a good question, though o_o I've never had to think about it
[02:28] <Phantom-X> and exactly showing relevant info nothing more or less
[02:28] <Blaqlight> Bigb252, did you properly and fully install ubuntu?
[02:28] <goodbyegravity> nemes_: You could try to just visit whatsmyip.com or whatever in lynx ;)
[02:28] <Phantom-X> this even means black bg and light fg for texts etc
[02:28] <Phantom-X> to spare your vision adn brain
[02:28] <SNuxoll> Pici: mind removing him?
[02:28] <beardo> can i use busybox to wipe a drive and install ubuntu?
[02:28] <alonzo> Swian are you still there?
[02:28] <Blaqlight> Phantom-X, your compiz rant belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic, please take it there.
[02:28] <dunnen> why is ubuntu so awesome?
[02:28] <Pici> Blaqlight: no, not even there.
[02:29] <Blaqlight> perhaps not even there..
[02:29] <Blaqlight> I keep coming up late.
[02:29] <spider> dunnen: because you think it is awesome :D
[02:29] <goodbyegravity> nemes_: whatsmyip.org, rather
[02:29] <Bigb252> Yea I installed it fully, it gave me the option if I wanted to reboot now or do it myself.  I choose to do it myself
[02:29] <dunnen> oh i see
[02:30] <nemes_> Fizzik, I wanted to check it from a terminal: I'm trying to configure a terminal to use Tor and would like to check if it works
[02:30] <nemes_> goodbyegravity, thanks
[02:30] <Blaqlight> Bigb252, did actually go through a full reboot then or??
[02:30] <Bigb252> Yea, after I finished saving what I was doing.
[02:30] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿dunnen: much like alot of things, it is as good as you make it, or want to make it :)
[02:31] <Fizzik> nemes_, dont think you can from terminal
[02:32] <ncfi1013_> can anybody tell me how to get amarok to recognize my 3rd gen ipod?
[02:32] <DozedOnLinux> brnassa: is someone assisting you with the SATA issue ?
[02:32] <Blaqlight> hmmm
[02:32] <obx> k guys i got a problem here
[02:32] <Blaqlight> and you can't boot into a terminal at all?
[02:32] <goodbyegravity> C'est quoi?
[02:32] <obx> all the fonts in my terminals are squashed
[02:32] <obx> i can't do anything about it
[02:32] <goodbyegravity> Using which terminal?
[02:32] <Bigb252> I should just retry.  How do I remove unbuntu desktop edition?
[02:32] <Blaqlight> Bigb252, sorry so can you boot into a terminal?
[02:33] <Blaqlight> Bigb252, wait. can you boot into a terminal
[02:33] <Bigb252> I don't know what that means exactly :/
[02:33] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿obx: everything else look ok or is it just the fonts ?
[02:33] <ncfi1013> can anybody tell me how to get amarok to recognize my 3rd gen ipod?
[02:34] <Bigb252> I get the 'command prompt' looking screen
[02:34] <Blaqlight> are at a prompt that looks like someone@somewhere$ ?
[02:34] <sun4ild> loxi vu vse
[02:34] <Bigb252> No
[02:34] <Blaqlight> Bigb252, try startx
[02:34] <Bigb252> so type startx then enter?
[02:34] <sun4ild> Bigb252, tu xyesos
[02:35] <ncfi1013> can anybody tell me how to get amarok to recognize my 3rd gen ipod?
[02:35] <maco> im a little scared.  i just booted from the 8.04.1 live cd on my mom's computer and got the "failsafe X" (hahaha) screen where it asks you to manually configure it.  when i chose the right video card it then had bad X again.  also, the mouse (PS2) didn't work in X (but did in the framebuffer thing for language at boot).  i just switched in a new USB mouse & keyboard then rebooted and X is working from the live cd this time.  do mouse/keyboard actually aff
[02:35] <Blaqlight> Bigb252, yeah try it see what happens
[02:35] <Miesco> How do I turn my onboard sound card off?
[02:35] <alraune> !cloning>alraune
[02:35] <ironfroggy> when i try to install python-central i get errors about several packages not being installed that are not deps of it
[02:35] <Bigb252> Ok - I'll be back to let you know how it turned out
[02:35] <ironfroggy> they are nto even related at all. i think some data is messed up thinking they should exist when they dont and something is just getting triggered
[02:35] <ncfi1013_> can anybody tell me how to get amarok to recognize my 3rd gen ipod?
[02:35] <ironfroggy> how can i purge that kind of thing?
[02:36] <beardo> can one of you uber guys pm me for some install help? i'm trying to wipe drive and clean install, but keep running into issues. i'm not a total noob
[02:36] <nemes_> Fizzik, I've just think that it could be possible by SSHing localhost and checking the IP with "w". The "FROM" value shouldn't be localhost if Tor were working
[02:36] <ironfroggy> beardo: define "issues"
[02:36] <Blaqlight> !pm | beardo
[02:36] <Fizzik> no idea nemes_
[02:36] <beardo> ubottu, thank you, will do
[02:36] <beardo> lol
[02:37] <paolo_> this is my question: I want to know if a package has been installed using apt-get install or if it has been installed with apt-get source (how do i distinguish these two)
[02:38] <beardo> ironfroggy, upon booting livecd, and choosing install, it locks up at different points each time, and upon choosing 'try...' [aka livecd] it asks for login
[02:38] <Quenyar> HELP - I have just installed latest ubuntu and I cannot get network to work.  I have turned off roaming and I need to configure DHCP - it was working before on same setup but with older ubuntu that I unfortunately blew away
[02:38] <ncfi1013_> can anybody tell me how to get amarok to recognize my 3rd gen ipod?
[02:39] <metalpres> so while not a specific ubuntu question has anyone found a way to watch the olympics online using linux?  seems like all sites are either not supporting linux or require windows or mac plugins
[02:39] <Blaqlight> beardo, did you check the installation media for errors?
[02:39] <beardo> ironfroggy, tried tty1-6, they all say user not known to the underlying auth module
[02:39] <Jordan_U> Quenyar: Why did you turn of roaming mode?
[02:39] <beardo> blaqlight, yes, on the computer i'm on now
[02:39] <Blaqlight> Quenyar, keep roaming mode ON. its what allows you to connect to whats available.
[02:39] <beardo> blaqlight, verified, then boot into livecd
[02:39] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿paolo_:  you may wish to look here > /var/cache/apt/archives/
[02:39] <spider> is ubuntu support opera?
[02:40] <nemes_> ncfi1013, maybe you've alredy read this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=369771
[02:40] <herath> hello. i'm using ubuntu 8.04. is it possible to have the system language set in US english (so i can see the gnome menus/dialogs etc in english) and set my currency/date format etc in a different locale?
[02:40] <Blaqlight> !offtopic | metalpres
[02:40] <bazhang> !opera
[02:40] <hml> is there an amd64 optimized ubuntu built? (more optimized than the -amd64.iso ... i.e. i want a unbuntu distribution built for speed)
[02:40] <Pici> !opera | spider
[02:40] <Quenyar> because I had no network connectivity and though I'd turn it off.  Should I turn it back on?
[02:40] <ironfroggy> metalpres: nbc has the rights. msnbc has the online job. it wouldn't be the Olympics without exclusive corporate synergy!
[02:40] <Blaqlight> spider yes 'sudo apt-get install opera
[02:40] <goodbyegravity> Don't bother trying Opera
[02:40] <goodbyegravity> Fonts are broken
[02:40] <Blaqlight> Quenyar, yes.
[02:40] <aitd> spider: I use opera; installed from Synaptic
[02:41] <beardo> blaqlight, and now i get a segfalult upon reboot from login screen
[02:41] <Quenyar> OK, trying that
[02:42] <beardo> blaqlight, i've reinstalled using different configs on multiple machines, never ran into this. i'm concerned it's my 'new' motherboard
[02:42] <Blaqlight> goodbyegravity, everyone's experience is different..
[02:42] <goodbyegravity> No, I mean... seriously broken
[02:42] <Blaqlight> beardo, how new?
[02:42] <goodbyegravity> I use Opera exclusively, but it's impossible on 8.04.1
[02:42] <ironfroggy> is anyone else having trouble with python-central?
[02:42] <Blaqlight> goodbyegravity, my fonts were fine.
[02:42] <bigb251> ‡|Blaqlight|‡ , startx doesn't work.
[02:43] <nocive> goodbyegravity: why impossible?
[02:43] <Blaqlight> bigb251, you've got some major issues then x isn't even installed.
[02:43] <aitd> Might want to try completely removing Opera and the reinstalling it. I use is on a regular basis in 8.04 without issues.
[02:43] <beardo> blaqlight, new to me, and i'm told its 3 years old and worked fine from it's previous owner, came in beautiful, extra clean condition
[02:43] <goodbyegravity> nocive: I would love to find an answer to that :)
[02:43] <Blaqlight> bigb251,  your prolly better off just reinstalling.
[02:43] <biouser> what is going on with the olympics work around?
[02:44] <bigb251> Yea.  Exactly how do I uninstall?  Like a regular program, correct?
[02:44] <goodbyegravity> The whole shared/static QT just seems like a headache, and even though the interface responds to qt4-qtconfig, some of the page fonts and menus refuse to render correctly
[02:44] <Quenyar> OK, so I turned on roaming for both Ethernet interafces it sees - I closed the dialog but the window doesn't close and it's thinking hard....
[02:44] <Blaqlight> beardo, and your sure all of your hardware is in good working order... HDD, memtest86 on your RAM modules?...
[02:45] <markekeller> I was just playing Sauerbraten, when all of a sudden my computer froze.  I did a Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, and when X came back up, I had lost 3D acceleration!  But, and this is the weird part, Blender, which used to make the screen go haywire when 3D acceleration worked, runs fine now (but 3D games have awful framerates)!  Odd, eh?
[02:45] <Blaqlight> bigb251, no need to uninstall, go where ubottu suggests in the PM.
[02:46] <Blaqlight> !puregnome > bigb251
[02:46] <bigb251> ok
[02:46] <bigb251> ty
[02:46] <Quenyar> Turning roaming on did nothing.  How can I get this to connect?
[02:46] <beardo> blaqlight, the hdd has an 8.04 install on it, and will [sometimes] boot into old install, but without network support, the ram is from same old config, and the only thing i would lean to as suspect is the cdrom drive, which i've swapped
[02:47] <beardo> blaqlight, i'm all for a complete wipe, as my sensitive data is on a larger drive not connected at this time.
[02:47] <ncfi1013_> can anybody tell me how to get amarok to recognize my 3rd gen ipod?
[02:48] <Blaqlight> beardo, you got a livecd?
[02:48] <Jordan_U> Quenyar: This is ethernet?
[02:48] <beardo> blaqlight, yes
[02:49] <beardo> blaqlight, as we speak i've tried to boot again and chose 'install' and it's halted with 'fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed'
[02:49] <Blaqlight> beardo use that to fix your install, or atleast attempt it, if not, just do a full install. its easier that way. also you might for argements sake, do a memtest86 on your ram modules...
[02:50] <ncfi1013> can anybody tell me how to get amarok to "see" my 3rd gen ipod?
[02:50] <arrrghhh> so i've tried the hardware drivers manager method for installing the nvidia drivers.  it broke X.
[02:50] <Blaqlight> beardo, also check your installation media...
[02:50] <Fizzik> how do i take a screenshot in terminal?
[02:50] <Jordan_U> Quenyar:If it's an ethernet connection try "sudo ifconfig eth0 up && sudo dhclient eth0" in a terminal and if it doesn't work please pastebin the output
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> ncfi1013: it should do it almost automatically
[02:50] <Quenyar> Yes Jordan. I have this compiter and the other computer both plugged into a switch which is in turn connected to a DSL modem.
[02:50] <msingh> when did ubuntu decide it wanted to copy Vista/XP by asking you to reboot after installing updates every 2nd day?
[02:50] <arrrghhh> msingh, i only get reboot msgs when i install a kernel update...
[02:50] <ironfroggy> does anyone know how to purge the list of incomplete package installs?
[02:51] <beardo> blaqlight, i've been around and around trying that, and, honestly, don't care for the existing data. as for the media, it's been booted into on the machine i'm chatting on, verified, and fully booted into the gui with no probs
[02:51] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿msingh: i only see that with kernel stuff
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> msingh: i've not rebooted on any of the recent updates, except the ernel update a week or so ago
[02:51] <msingh> arrrghhh: i get asked all the time. it's bullshit
[02:51] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿msingh: i havent seen that in quite some time now.
[02:51] <greg_> anyone know about booting certain commands
[02:51] <beardo> blaqlight, can i get a refresher on the command sequence for memtest?
[02:51] <arrrghhh> msingh, like i said, ONLY for kernel upgrades have i ever been asked.  are you running intrepid?
[02:51] <msingh> someone tell these maintainers that asking you to reboot after an update is ok once in a while (maybe once a year) .. but every bloody week
[02:51] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿greg_: called Kernel Options
[02:52] <greg_> DozedOnLinux: thanks
[02:52] <msingh> arrrghhh: what's intrepid?
[02:52] <arrrghhh> ironfroggy, there's apt-get autoremove and dpkg --configure -a
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> !intrepid
[02:52] <Blaqlight> when you boot into either your working install or livecd the command is there..
[02:52] <arrrghhh> msingh, the next ubuntu.
[02:52] <arrrghhh> 8.10
[02:52] <msingh> no. i'm runing hardy
[02:52] <ncfi1013> but it doesn't. all it does is show that it is mounted on both the desktop and the storage media
[02:52] <beardo> blaqlight, okie...  running now
[02:53] <IndyGunFreak> ncfi1013: ok, open amarok, and tell it where to look for the ipod.
[02:53] <ncfi1013> amarok is open
[02:53] <Blaqlight> beardo it will take some time, perhaps you should take a nap :D
[02:53] <jayson_r> /auit
[02:53] <ncfi1013> amarok IS open
[02:53] <IndyGunFreak> ncfi1013: well did you tell it where to look for your ipod?
[02:53] <msingh> it would be good if it ASKED you before installing update that will require a reboot. cause i'll say NO each time unless it's a critical update
[02:53] <msingh> how is that not the reasonable sane thing to do?
[02:54] <arrrghhh> so when the hardware drivers manager method fails for nvidia drivers install, what should i do?
[02:54] <beardo> blaqlight, lol, i'm napped out after burning livecd's at 2x all day ;]
[02:54] <goodbyegravity> Can't you turn off the update request?
[02:54] <ncfi1013> and how would i do that
[02:54] <IndyGunFreak> msingh: or, just don't reboot till your ready, thats what i do.
[02:54] <goodbyegravity> And the update manager in general?
[02:54] <ironfroggy> I have a major circular problem here. python-central is failing to setup on install because it tries to install packages i dont have (and am not asking for
[02:54] <Jordan_U> msingh: Nothing will happen if you don't reboot
[02:54] <ironfroggy> and if i try to install those packages, they fail becasue python-central isn't setup yet
[02:54] <arrrghhh> msingh, just ignore it.
[02:54] <msingh> yeah that's what i've been doing
[02:54] <Jordan_U> msingh: You just won't be using the latest kernel until you do
[02:54] <ironfroggy> anyone know where it gets its list of packages to try and install on setup?
[02:54] <arrrghhh> ironfroggy, did you see what i said?
[02:54] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿beardo: lol 2x ?
[02:54] <Quenyar> Jordan Listening on LPF/Eth0/00:40:F4:6C:E4:12
[02:54] <arrrghhh> ironfroggy, there's a dependency list with every package in the repo.
[02:55] <Blaqlight> beardo, thats terrible heh
[02:55] <beardo> blaqlight, yeah, so i can be sure of no buffer probs, cheap media probs, etc
[02:55] <Jordan_U> msingh: And if it's just an Xorg update you can start using the new version by logging out and logging back in ( which restarts X )
[02:55] <goodbyegravity> Ubuntu always gives me errors if I burn faster than 4x
[02:55] <Quenyar> Jordon Sending on   LPF/Eth0/00:40:F4:6C:E4:12
[02:55] <alonzo> Does anyone here have any experience with using the Ventrilo Push to Talk Hack?
[02:55] <beardo> blaqlight, it'll burn faster, but i dont usually get good verify results
[02:55] <IndyGunFreak> ncfi1013: wait,... you have a 3rd gen.. is it a 3rd gen nano
[02:55] <ncfi1013> yes
[02:55] <ironfroggy> arrrghhh: thanks
[02:55] <Blaqlight> goodbyegravity, that would explain why I have like 5 useless dvd's of ubuntu...
[02:55] <Quenyar> Jordon Sending on Socket/fallback
[02:55] <IndyGunFreak> you're probably not gonna get that to work w/ ubuntu.
[02:55] <IndyGunFreak> at least i never did.
[02:55] <msingh> Jordan_U: i dont know what it was that i updated that required a reboot
[02:56] <Jordan_U> Quenyar: Please use pastebin rather than pasting in channel
[02:56] <IndyGunFreak> !ipod | ncfi1013
[02:56] <spider> sudo apt-get install opera is not working
[02:56] <goodbyegravity> spider: Then download the package from opera.com
[02:56] <beardo> blaqlight, i hate to be a burden, but the main channel is a beast on my eyes, may i pm you?
[02:56] <Blaqlight> is it safe to run a BIOS update using wine or should I just switch to windows for it?
[02:56] <mauricio> i am having a issue with my sound car.
[02:56] <mauricio> card
[02:56] <goodbyegravity> spider: Or get the latest release from the Desktop Team page
[02:56] <SNuxoll> Blaqlight: I'd switch to windows
[02:56] <SNuxoll> Blaqlight: better safe than sorry
[02:57] <qr__> Blaqlight: a bios update is just not something you want to risk in wine
[02:57] <IndyGunFreak> spider: easiest way to get opera, is download the .deb file from opera.com
[02:57] <Jordan_U> Blaqlight: I would use windows or freeDOS
[02:57] <arrrghhh> Blaqlight, definitely switch to windows.
[02:57] <Quenyar> Jordon DHCP DISCOVER on Eth0 to 255.255.255.255 Port 67 interval 5  (6,7,8,8,4)  NO DHCPOFFERS Received.
[02:57] <Blaqlight> SNuxoll, thats what Im thinking... if I fubar my BIOS im in deep poop.
[02:57] <arrrghhh> yea
[02:57] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Blaqlight: i would swith to non-emu environment, or even do it the floppy way
[02:57] <Quenyar> Jordon No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[02:57] <goodbyegravity> Not if you have a soldering gun and some free time :)
[02:57] <goodbyegravity> ..iron
[02:57] <goodbyegravity> not gun.
[02:57] <goodbyegravity> Although that would be awesome.
[02:57] <ironfroggy> also i just found /var/lib/pycentral/delayed-pkgs is the list of packages i wanted to clear
[02:58] <ncfi1013> how do you make that vertical slash mark
[02:58] <mauricio> after i upgraded to 8.04 my sound card stopped working, anybody know how to resolve this?
[02:58] <Jordan_U> Quenyar: Are you sure that whatever is supposed to be providing DHCP is working?
[02:58] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Blaqlight: dont forget to back it up before flashing
[02:58] <Blaqlight> DozedOnLinux, I haven't had a working floppy drive in my house for atleast 5 years heh.
[02:58] <IndyGunFreak> ncfi1013: this | ?
[02:58] <Jordan_U> ncfi1013: The pipe '|' ?
[02:58] <ncfi1013> yes
[02:58] <goodbyegravity> mauricio: Are you using snd-intel-hda?  If so, the easiest way might just be to build a newer version of ALSA
[02:58] <kane1> How can i ping network in Ubuntu.
[02:58] <ncfi1013> yes
[02:58] <Quenyar> Yes, because I am connected to the same provider now with DHCP on this box
[02:58] <Blaqlight> DozedOnLinux, thankfully the .exe does it automagically..
[02:58] <IndyGunFreak> ncfi1013: i guess it depends on your keyboard, but usually its shift and \
[02:58]  * spider full of it
[02:58] <biouser> gotta love the MSNBC world gov olympic conspiracy
[02:58] <Jordan_U> ncfi1013: It's a key on the keyboard, for me it's shift + backslash
[02:58] <kane1> And also how can i get network traffic
[02:59] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Blaqlight: i dont put them in my systems. but just so happens this box already had one in it, even if it is completely disabled
[02:59] <kane1> How can i ping network in Ubuntu.
[02:59] <msingh> biouser: what conspirasy?
[02:59] <Pici> !offtopic | msingh biouser
[02:59] <goodbyegravity> Ooh, random chatter.
[02:59] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Blaqlight: yes the newer ones are nice.
[02:59] <Blaqlight> legacy stuff is slow and stupid these days with firewire and usb...
[02:59] <Jordan_U> kane1: Use ping, or am I misunderstanding?
[02:59] <kane1> ping like a AP
[03:00] <arrrghhh> kane1, ping <ip or domain>
[03:00] <kane1> Can i put accesss point
[03:00] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿kane1: there is something called Network Tools in which you can do many things much like that
[03:00] <Quenyar> Jordan_U Ping results in destination host unreachable
[03:00] <ncfi1013> i am in the us in texas
[03:00] <goodbyegravity> kane1: Try `ping 192.168.1.1'
[03:00] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿kane1:  System/Administration/Network Tools on your menu
[03:01] <kane1> ok
[03:01] <biouser> msingh: Pici MS Silverlight non-compatibility is off-topic?
[03:01] <mauricio> ive tried to get another version, but when i look i cant find one.
[03:01] <Pici> biouser: Yes, it is offtopic for the Ubuntu Support Channel.
[03:01] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿goodbyegravity: could be 192.168.0.1 too
[03:01] <biouser> !yeahright | Pici
[03:01] <goodbyegravity> mauricio: All of the stable releases are on the page; you have to download a lot of alsa- stuff and compile them manually.  Try ubuntufoums.org; they have a big thread on sound issues with Hardy.
[03:01] <DozedOnLinux> hhave question now that ﻿goodbyegravity mentioned that. in Ubuntu can you still ping localhost ?
[03:02] <biouser> Pici, b/c there is no workaround?
[03:02] <Pici> biouser: Talk about it in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want, but #ubuntu is for support issues only.
[03:02] <goodbyegravity> DozedOnLinux: I suppose, but I've never had one that isn't that by default
[03:02] <Fizzik> hey whats a good program similiar to itunes for my ipod? please help
[03:02] <goodbyegravity> DozedOnLinux: I can `ping localhost' without any problems
[03:02] <biouser> anyone know how to get M$ silverlight content on ubuntu?
[03:02] <vik> Hello..I am attempting to create a .deb package from source for the first time for the transmission bittorrent client on hardy heron. I have downloaded the source package and run the following commands tar xvjf transmission-1.31.tar.bz2 , ./configure -q && make -s and the next command in the help file is make install and it fails because it says "make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop."..Can you please help me
[03:02] <goodbyegravity> DozedOnLinux: I assume it's fine as long as your loopback is set up
[03:02] <Quenyar> I am bummed because I have never had this problem before, I have always just installed ubuntu and it worked.  Nothing special or different. Now I am sitting here with a completely unconnected box and staring at weird ifconfig outputs
[03:02] <beardo> fizzik, rhythmbox worked great for my dad's, was auto-magic upon install
[03:02] <spider> hi
[03:03] <mauricio> thanks much, i applicate it.
[03:03] <mauricio> appriciate it.
[03:03] <beardo> fizzik, oops, on first try i mean, it comes with hardy
[03:03] <spider> for my windows it doesnt know sound driver, can i use my ubuntu sound driver for my windows?
[03:03] <goodbyegravity> No
[03:03] <Fizzik> beardo, i dont like rhythmbox
[03:03] <goodbyegravity> Unless you compile ALSA for Windows
[03:03] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿goodbyegravity: just havent had the need to try it, although some of my code uses it for diag. havent yet to drop it on this box yet
[03:03] <msingh> In order to complete the update of your system it needs to be restarted.
[03:03] <msingh> Until you do so, security updates may not be fully applied, newly inserted or supported hardware may not function and new services may not be available.
[03:04] <msingh> how does this say, "ok, dont reboot it's cool if you dont"
[03:04] <dunnen> uptinme
[03:04] <dunnen> uptime
[03:04] <biouser> 48 kg women up now live...
[03:04] <dunnen> Uptime: 1 days and 28 minutes
[03:04] <chimp> A bug in a program has just deleted my menu.lst as well as the stage1 files etc, meaning if i enter grub and try find /boot/grub/stage1 it says file not found, any idea how to restore this?
[03:04] <spider> goodbyegravity: u answered my question?
[03:04] <goodbyegravity> Yeah, spider
[03:04] <bazhang> biouser, what is that
[03:04] <goodbyegravity> The driver is built into ALSA
[03:05] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿msingh: if it says restart is required, i dont see how rebooting should not, be an option. it is telling you that for a reason
[03:05] <beardo> fizzik, i'm not a huge fan of it, but the people hammering out a new release every six months thought highly of it, and it does work well, however ugly it is. what's your beef with it?
[03:05] <goodbyegravity> Or as a kernel module I suppose
[03:05] <bigb251> blaqlight ?
[03:05] <bigb251> :(
[03:05] <spider> goodbyegravity: so how could i compile that?
[03:05] <Quenyar> Has anyone had horrible problems with scrolling - when I scroll, instead of stauing put in the window, it paints it in pieces all up the screen and I can't read any of it.  Terrible.
[03:05] <SNuxoll> Quenyar: nvidia card?
[03:05] <goodbyegravity> You can try going to ALSA's site, but I wouldn't have any clue where to start with POSIX and compiling with Win32
[03:05] <msingh> DozedOnLinux: it's broken. this is not the linux i remember. you should be able to go months and years without needing to reboot
[03:05] <Fizzik> beardo, it just sucks lol :P
[03:05] <Swian> I like rythmbox
[03:05] <arrrghhh> msingh, just ignore the msg until you are ready to reboot.  at least it doesn't keep nagging you to reboot like windows does :P
[03:06] <Fizzik> Swian, i dont
[03:06] <goodbyegravity> arrrghhh: Mine nags me constantly when it
[03:06] <goodbyegravity> s up
[03:06] <Swian> I thinks its nice compared to iTunes
[03:06] <Quenyar> not an nvidia card, a real dinoasur a Matrox VGA card
[03:06] <SNuxoll> Quenyar: I had that issue with my GeForce 4MX, switched it out for my Radeon 9550 and it worked fine
[03:06] <biouser> bazhang: sry, !offtopic I guess... was just hoping to watch olympic weightlifting from the comfort of my ubuntu.... had to break out a crappy old MS box...
[03:06] <msingh> arrrghhh: i dont like rebooting. i dont want to reboot. this message tells me i should
[03:06] <spider> goodbyegravity: so if i wanna see my sound driver name on ubuntu is it possible?
[03:06] <arrrghhh> maybe it's a kde thing...
[03:06] <Fizzik> i like itunes
[03:06] <Swian> your loss
[03:06] <mio> Hi, what would be a good media centre software ?
[03:06] <goodbyegravity> spider: Type "lspci" and look for something about a sound device
[03:06] <arrrghhh> msingh, yea i agree.  i hardly ever reboot my machine.   it goes months without rebooting.
[03:06] <msingh> mio: freevo
[03:06] <SNuxoll> mio: for linux?
[03:06] <vik> Hello..I am attempting to create a .deb package from source for the first time for the transmission bittorrent client on hardy heron. I have downloaded the source package and run the following commands tar xvjf transmission-1.31.tar.bz2 , ./configure -q && make -s and the next command in the help file is make install and it fails because it says "make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop."..Can you please help me
[03:06] <SNuxoll> mio: it doesn't exist >>
[03:06] <beardo> fizzik, i agree, although it's not given me many real problems, besides bein goofy, and, like i said, it lit up 'automagically' as soon as i plugged my pa's ipod in
[03:06] <mio> for ubuntu
[03:07] <SNuxoll> mio: ubuntu is linux silly...
[03:07] <tritium> vik: you know it's already packaged, right?
[03:07] <mio> :(
[03:07] <msingh> mio: freevo if you got the patience (or/and luck) to make it work for you
[03:07] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Quenyar:  mine does that in System Monitor, only on the Processes Tab. only thing i see that does it. thin horizontal lines across the display area, cant read what is there for a few seconds. nvidia on my system . havent seen it do it anywhere else i can think of
[03:07] <beardo> fizzik, i understand you can use amarok for ipods, as well as most of the highest-rated mediaplayers in the repo's
[03:07] <vik> tritium: no..I am a newbie
[03:07] <mio> msingh: thanks i will have a look
[03:07] <tritium> !info tranmission | vik
[03:07] <goodbyegravity> Depends on the device.. I don't think the iPod Touch works with Linux, does it?
[03:07] <tritium> !info transmission | vik
[03:08] <msingh> tranmission is crap.. run utorrent under wine
[03:08] <spider> 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[03:08] <goodbyegravity> Deluge is a uTorrent clone that works quite well
[03:08] <SNuxoll> what's with the transmission hostility?
[03:08] <goodbyegravity> or maybe uTorrent was a Deluge clone--whichever
[03:08] <arrrghhh> utorrent under wine is crap lol
[03:08] <SNuxoll> it downloads torrents, who cares?
[03:08] <beardo> blaqlight, wow the memtest just started spewing six digits worth of errors  in a matter of seconds on block move test.
[03:08] <msingh> it has no features. you can schedule stuff
[03:08] <goodbyegravity> It lacks a lot of features
[03:08] <msingh> *cannot
[03:08] <SNuxoll> goodbyegravity: like?
[03:08] <vik> tritial: Now I know what you mean..I have 1.22 version installed but the newest version 1.231 has a lot of features..so my experimentation
[03:09] <javagamer> When bridging a network interface for a guest OS in KVM does the host computer have the IP set in /etc/network/interfaces and the guest OS gets its IP form it's own /etc/network/interfaces (or equivelant)?
[03:09] <SNuxoll> goodbyegravity: I don't see anything that it's missing that I could use, I can cap the upload speed, I can download torrents, I'm happy
[03:09] <goodbyegravity> The most important one for me is that you can't specifically pick what to download out of the torrent
[03:09] <goodbyegravity> E.G. If I want one episode from an 8GB TV torrent
[03:09] <SNuxoll> goodbyegravity: eh? yes you can
[03:09] <msingh> goodbyegravity: i believe tranmission does that
[03:09] <goodbyegravity> Oh? How?
[03:09] <Pinehead> what kind of support does ubuntu have for wireless keyboard and mouse for install?
[03:09] <beardo> blaqlight, i dunno how i coulda borked my ram up during such a simple swap, is there a way to tell which stick is at fault?
[03:09] <SNuxoll> goodbyegravity: right click the torrent, open the info window
[03:09] <goodbyegravity> It was easy to find with Deluge, so I just stopped using Transmission
[03:09] <Pinehead> DO i need a wired one to set it up or am i good with what i got?
[03:09] <SNuxoll> goodbyegravity: then deselect all the files you don't want
[03:10] <goodbyegravity> Huh, I see.
[03:10] <goodbyegravity> Oh well.  :)
[03:10] <mio> note to all: Vista > virtual box > ubuntu > virtual box > winxp = bad bad bad
[03:10] <msingh> utorrent is still better (onve you get it to work)
[03:10] <goodbyegravity> Transmission does have a nicer GUI, though
[03:10] <SNuxoll> Pinehead: if you have a bluetooth keyboard, should work perfectly
[03:10] <Pinehead> what about an old school logitech
[03:10] <SNuxoll> Pinehead: even moreso if you have a random USB keyboard/mouse combo with a custom USB reciever
[03:10] <Pinehead> that plugs in via ps ports
[03:11] <Pinehead> nope not usb :(
[03:11] <SNuxoll> Pinehead: yeah, you'll be golden
[03:11] <vik> tritium: sorry i misspelled is it hard to compile a .deb package from source..Thanks
[03:11] <Pinehead> snuxoll: even though its not usb?
[03:11] <tritium> vik: no, not that bad.
[03:11] <SNuxoll> Pinehead: yes, it'll look like a plain PS/2 keyboard to the system
[03:12] <Pinehead> rock.
[03:12] <Pinehead> Thanks
[03:12] <tritium> !packaging | vik
[03:12]  * spider bye
[03:12] <teq> hello, is there a way to use virtual video memory? thanks!
[03:12] <goodbyegravity> My, my, my.  I can't figure out which of these options in freetype's ftoption.h correspond to what reconfiguring fontconfig-config does.
[03:13] <vik> thanks tritium and ubottu
[03:13] <Quenyar> Can anybody help me get this Ubuntu installation networking to connect?  It had two Ethernet cards in it, so I am taking out the one that was not plugged in and goign to start it up - maybe it got confused.  I am plugging into the same Ethernet switch, which is plugged into the DSL modem.
[03:13] <tritium> vik: ubottu is a bot ;)
[03:13] <vik> tritium: It's my first time here
[03:13] <vik> :)
[03:13] <pstarter> hello hello
[03:14] <teq> lo
[03:14] <tritium> vik: welcome to #ubuntu :)
[03:14] <vik> tritium: Thanks again..my experimentation starts
[03:14] <teq> hello, is there a way to use virtual video memory? thanks!
[03:14] <chimp> Whats in the file /boot/grub/stage1 because mine has been deleted, and i need to get it back before this computer reboots :P
[03:15] <ironfroggy> any known remedy for a drive that keeps going read-only?
[03:15] <beardo> is there a way to tell which stick of ram is causing the 7-digits-worth-of-errors-and-counting from memtest on a livecd?
[03:16] <ironfroggy> take them out one by one?
[03:16] <beardo> okie
[03:16] <Cpudan80> beardo: it should run tests on one stick at a time
[03:16] <Cpudan80> Does it not do that?
[03:16] <Quenyar> beardo - yes, take second stick out, run RAM test (on Ubuntu install CD) if no errors, swap for other stick.  etc
[03:16] <Cpudan80> Memtest 86+ does that IIRC
[03:16] <g06|in> chimp: what did you do?
[03:17] <chimp> A program (unetbootin) deleted it in a buggy sort of way
[03:17] <babo_> how do i find my nessus pass and username ?
[03:17] <beardo> cpudan80, it doesnt seem to be, but honestly, it's not that difficult, i'm just getting lazy now :D
[03:17] <teq> is there a way to share ram with video memory? thanks
[03:17] <Cpudan80> beardo: yeah -- easiest sure fire way is to just rip out the old guy
[03:17] <toomanymirrors> Hey, I am trying to set separate wallpapers on a dual monitor nvidia twin view setup but nautilus only lets me set a single desktop wallpaper across both screens
[03:18] <chimp> g06|in: It also deleted menu.lst but I can fix it
[03:18] <Shaba1> where are likely places that a program could be starting at boot time?
[03:18] <g06|in> chimp: wait a minute! that program seems to help in dual-boot install!
[03:18] <fonzarelli> chimp: stage1 is a binary file, thats all i know
[03:19] <javagamer> When bridging a network interface for a guest OS in KVM does the host computer have the IP set in /etc/network/interfaces and the guest OS gets its IP form it's own /etc/network/interfaces (or equivelant)?
[03:19] <chimp> g06|in: This laptop lacks many ammenities, and so was trying to use it to install other linux distros from within ubuntu
[03:19] <fonzarelli> chimp: maybe apt-get remove grub,  apt-get install grub?
[03:20] <tritium> fonzarelli: there is a --reinstall option for apt-get install
[03:20] <beardo> when my bios says "DRAM" does it really just mean ram? its SD i'm talkin about here...
[03:20] <fonzarelli> ahh, thanks tritium
[03:20] <Aragorn> hello |mim|
[03:20] <Pinehead> whats the best way to record an iso to cd rom with widows xp?
[03:20] <g06|in> chimp: does UNetbootin have a loader?
[03:20] <Pinehead> I have no burning software.
[03:20] <chimp> A loader?
[03:20] <fonzarelli> Pinehead: google  CD Burner XP, its free
[03:20] <|mim|> :) hello
[03:21] <g06|in> fonzarelli: if in case UNetbootin has a loader that loads in place of GRUB then the chimp's purpose would be lost!
[03:21] <fonzarelli> g06|in: ahh, i thought he was trying to restore grub
[03:21] <g06|in> chimp: you can even boot with a rescue CD later and then install grub!
[03:21] <swuboo> beardo: I hardly see what else your BIOS could be referring to.
[03:21] <teq> How do I set my shared video memory?
[03:21] <chimp> g06|in: No cd drive, hence why i was using it
[03:22] <g06|in> try rebooting it if its the first time after installing UNetbootin
[03:22] <g06|in> chimp: if you are trying to restore GRUB then do as fonzarelli says!
[03:22] <chimp> g06|in: it contains no menu.lst and no stage1 etc.
[03:22] <fonzarelli> teq: i'm not sure you can do anything outside of setting your AGP apperture in your bios
[03:22] <chimp> And i am trying that currently, laptop is slow
[03:22] <fonzarelli> *aperture
[03:23] <teq> fonzarelli: how do i do that
[03:23] <g06|in> chimp: trying to restore GRUB? and that's slow?
[03:23] <swuboo> teq:  That would depend upon your BIOS.
[03:23] <fonzarelli> teq: check with your bios manufacturer
[03:23] <teq> fonzarelli: how do i access bios?
[03:23] <chimp> g06|in: this laptop only has 170MB of ram, so it runs a tad slowly, even when using apt
[03:24] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿teq:  accessing CMOS config , usually DEL ESC or F2 keys to get into cmos
[03:24] <g06|in> chimp: hmmm fine
[03:24] <swuboo> teq:  That, too, would depend on your BIOS manufacturer.  Holding down delete during bootup is common.
[03:24] <fonzarelli> teq: depends on your bios, sometimes if F12 or DEL or ESC during the boot process before grub loads
[03:24] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿teq:  do this on power-up of system
[03:25] <chimp> Reinstalling grub didnt work :S
[03:25] <pyrite1978> Is there any chance, someone might be able to help me trouble shoota problem i am having with ATI drivers?
[03:25] <pyrite1978> and Wine
[03:25] <komies> I seem to have turned on something accidentally and it's making water ripple effects all over my screen. It's terribly distracting... anyone know how I can turn it off?
[03:25] <teq> pyrite1978: state the problem
[03:25] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿fonzarelli: yes, it is dependent on Mb manuf. usually it says, unless sometimes DELL/Gateway hide it with splash screen
[03:26] <Pinehead> i gotta be an idiot
[03:26] <Pinehead> nothing shows up on the damn cd after i burn the cd.
[03:26] <obx> is there a way i can check for packages i recently installed?
[03:26] <pyrite1978> teq: when i try to use any form of 3d app, (other then compiz) my screen goes insane.
[03:26] <amenado> can someone verify for me please, is there a  /usr/include/linux/config.h  file on ubuntu?
[03:26] <obx> squashed terminal font is driving me insane
[03:27] <Fizzik> how come rthymbox wont let me put songs on my ipod?
[03:27] <fonzarelli> amenado: i don't currently have that file on my system
[03:27] <teq> pyrite1978: what do u mean by "insane"
[03:27] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Pinehead: could be just that you choose wrong burn media, instead chose to burn Image, and not burn direct to CDRW/DVDRW
[03:27] <amenado> fonzarelli-> thanks..
[03:27] <fonzarelli> amenado: i dont have a linux dir in /usr/include
[03:27] <pyrite1978> I mean, it looks like my monitor is a puzzle,.  that has been kicked... repeatedly.
[03:28] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿pyrite1978: lol, has it ?
[03:28] <pyrite1978> once it happens all that i can do is restart X
[03:28] <Pinehead> yeah i did, its on a cdw though is that a problem?
[03:29] <pyrite1978> i am suspecting it has to do with ATI, and the ATI driver. for my card.  i realy wish i had went with nvidia =/
[03:29] <amenado> fonzarelli-> mine does not have it either..
[03:29] <teq> pyrite1978: have you tried switching to asla?
[03:29] <amenado> can someone verify for me please, is there a  /usr/include/linux/config.h  file on ubuntu? other than fonzarelli whose already responded ?
[03:29] <Quenyar> HELP I am having display problems.  This http://goomba.com/www2/hwm/Screenshot.png is what happens when I scroll down a screen (this was the Ubuntu welcome screen in Firefox).  HELP
[03:29] <sgodsell> pyrite1978, what ati card is it?
[03:30] <g06|in> amenado: what's your problem?
[03:30] <fonzarelli> amenado: looks like that dir is part of the kernel headers.   to get them,  sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-kernel-headers
[03:30] <pyrite1978> HD3650 1gb.     And No, as i assumed with Asla, i would not get 3d exeleration
[03:30] <fonzarelli> amenado: oops   sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers
[03:30] <bastid_raZor> amenado; i don't have it on an almost fresh install of 8.04
[03:30] <Pinehead> says it was sucessfully complete, only took 30 seconds though..
[03:31] <Pinehead> well damnit not burning anything.
[03:31] <sgodsell> pyrite1978, did you try the radeonhd driver?
[03:31] <amenado> g06|in-> compiling a usb support for a microcontroller is failing it cant find  linux/config.h
[03:31] <yago> hi all, I don't know what happen to my computer, that when I try open a movie file with kaffeine or other problem like this then my computer does not respond
[03:31] <fonzarelli> amenado: it's looking for the kernel headers,  sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers
[03:31] <yago> someone happens the same?
[03:31] <sparr> is there a filtering proxy for linux that can decrypt ssl sessions like proxomitron for windows?
[03:31] <sgodsell> pyrite1978, did you try the support on #radeonhd channel
[03:31] <pyrite1978> sgodsell: Yes. thats the current driver i am useing.. i also tried the driver Ubunti sujested on install.
[03:32] <alraune> ﻿Pinehead:what are you trying ?
[03:32] <amenado> fonzarelli-> well i was not even sure if shoud look in  /usr/include/linux or in  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
[03:32] <fonzarelli> amenado: its probably trying to build a kernel module specifically for your kernel, which requires the kernel headers
[03:33] <loquitus_of_bor1> I am using hardy... can somebody suggest to me a GUI based way to manage and add mountpoints that get automatically mounted (at boot and whenever) for my Samba shares that I mount from other servers on the LAN?
[03:33] <g06|in> amenado: in my understanding that file would usually be fetched from /usr/src/linux/...
[03:33] <amenado> fonzarelli-> i have the bunch of headers in /lib/modules/`uname -r/build/  subdirs..
[03:33] <amenado> g06|in-> do you have a /usr/src/linux  symlink?
[03:33] <fonzarelli> amendo:  no, because i didn't install the linux-kernel-headers package
[03:33] <g06|in> you usually would have one if in case you have installed kernel source!
[03:33] <g06|in> or kernel headers!
[03:34] <g06|in> so go ahead and install that... so that the your compilation would work!
[03:34] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-headers
[03:34] <amenado> g06|in-> i may have to those again, after a few upgrade
[03:34] <g06|in> normally I would do a apt-get install linux-`uname -r`-headers
[03:35] <alraun1> !compile>alraune
[03:35] <goodbyegravity> Hmm, does multi-core support depend on the software, the compiler or both?
[03:36] <g06|in> amenado: make sure your drivers are new!
[03:36] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿goodbyegravity:  thought that was a flg you set , but, i may be wrong
[03:36] <DozedOnLinux> flag*
[03:36] <goodbyegravity> That's what I thought too
[03:36] <amenado> g06|in-> which driver are you referring to? am looking for a header file not a driver
[03:36] <cellofellow> I just installed celtx, and am trying to set up a mimetype for .celtx files, which are Mozilla XPI-style ZIP files.
[03:37] <yago> anyone has a problem when try open a movie, that computer does not work?
[03:37] <goodbyegravity> But I don't want to spend $250 on a quad-core and end up having it obsoleted before things even get around to supporting it
[03:37] <alraune> yago:nah
[03:37] <Akabal> How can i ping a acesss point for network traffic
[03:37] <dmi3on> i get problem grub  read errror what should i do ?
[03:38] <g06|in> the module you are trying to compile seems to be referring linux/config.h which has been removed (from my limited knowledge!) from 2.6.19 and up!
[03:38] <cellofellow> I've added a file to /usr/share/mime-info, but no luck, not working.
[03:38] <cellofellow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/35739/
[03:38] <cellofellow> that's my celtx-project.keys file
[03:38] <kevinO> dmi3on, sounds like you need to rebuild brub
[03:38] <alraune> Akabal:got the ip ?
[03:38] <kevinO> grub*
[03:38] <Akabal> Ip of that the network
[03:39] <cellofellow> Nautilus still shows my .celtx file as an application/zip instead of an application/x-celtx-project file.
[03:39] <dmi3on> kevin0, ok do you know how do i do this ?
[03:39] <cellofellow> What did I miss?
[03:39] <alraune> Akabal: sudo ping <ip>
[03:39] <amenado> g06|in-> can you confirm for me, do you have a /usr/src/linux  ?
[03:39] <Akabal> How can i do it to a access point
[03:40] <Cpudan80> alraune: ping does not need sudo
[03:40] <kevinO> dmi3on, there are many tutorials on the internet, heres one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=704857
[03:40] <Cpudan80> Akabal: does the AP have an IP ?
[03:40] <Akabal> I think
[03:40] <g06|in> amenado: I do! but I don't what benefit the answer gives to you!
[03:40] <Akabal> How can i determine that
[03:40] <alraune> Akabal:got the ip ?
[03:40] <kevinO> dmi3on, ive never had to rebuild grub before but i believe its a very simple process
[03:41] <Cpudan80> Akabal: well - if you dont know what it is.. you'd have to look at your DHCP server, see if it has a lease out on the AP
[03:41] <alraune> Akabal:is it a machine (e.g.server)
[03:41] <amenado> g06|in-> that should be a symlink to  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build  right?
[03:41] <chimp> g06|in: I found update-grub rebuilds menu.lst automatically for you, and i found using locate a copy of stage1 somewhere and have copied it, no idea if its correct though
[03:41] <Cpudan80> Akabal: if its some linksys thing, it's prob 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.1.254
[03:41] <g06|in> amenado: NO!
[03:41] <obx> god what the fudge is wrong with my terminal
[03:41] <dmi3on> kevin0, can you help me to do
[03:42] <GoldenRatio>  if I were to encrypt my hardrive does that protect me from someone remote hacking my machine and stealing data?
[03:42] <dmi3on> ?
[03:42] <joejoecircusboy> GoldenRatio: No
[03:42] <beardo> so far two out of three sticks of ram have shown errors, both being the ones which worked in the old box yesterday, i'm testing the third now, [previous state unknown] would all three ram sticks showing errors by memtest signal a faulty motherboard?
[03:42] <alraune> GoldenRatio: nope
[03:42] <fonzarelli> obx: type reset and hit enter in your terminal :)
[03:42] <Akabal> HOw can i install flash on UBuntu
[03:42] <obx> no all the fonts are squashed in my terminal
[03:43] <fonzarelli> Akabal: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:43] <Cpudan80> Akabal: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:43] <obx> i've changed the font, and changed the size and no change
[03:43] <chimp> GoldenRatio: It does prevent someone whose stolen your laptop from stealing your data (given you have a decent password)
[03:43] <g06|in> chimp: I thought GRUB reinstall would get you the stage files as well!
[03:43] <Akabal> Thank you
[03:43] <GoldenRatio> so i guess as soon as i enter that password at boot it everything works just as if it wasent encrypted
[03:43] <Dr_willis_> beardo,  or a bad memory slot on the MB.
[03:43] <chimp> Didnt g06|in
[03:43] <Cpudan80> beardo: maybe just messed up slot... try a different slot maybe?
[03:43] <g06|in> amenado: that directory simply points to the kernel source!
[03:43] <joejoecircusboy> GoldenRatio: Ya, pretty much
[03:43] <Akabal> Ubuntu is great!
[03:43] <chimp> g06|in: Probably would if i had a live cd
[03:43] <alraune> beardo:Sticks can easily be changed, try to find a third machine then you'll know
[03:44] <derekv> When I use gnome's appearance settings to set my theme to 'darklooks' it sets all the current applications but any new applications load in the default
[03:44] <beardo> oh, wow, i always assumed you HAD to have a stick in dimm1 in order for it to read dimm2
[03:44] <beardo> and so on
[03:44] <Dr_willis_> beardo,  i imagine it depends on the mb/bios
[03:45] <Akabal> it didn't work
[03:45] <alraune> beardo:sd,ddr,ddr2 = one is enough for running at all
[03:45] <Cpudan80> beardo: used to be that way - not so much anymore
[03:45] <derekv> beardo: yea it is different on different motherboards, sometimes you have to look an the manual :)
[03:45] <Cpudan80> beardo: some give you warnings if you fill up the slots asynchronously
[03:46] <fizzik_> ok guys i have a problem ubuntu does not allow me to go higher then 1024x768 resolution and its got me locked at 50hz refresh rate please help
[03:46] <beardo> hmm, third stick failing as well, and without another box to stick it in, i'm going with dimm2. you guys rock
[03:46] <alraune> beardo:care for dual-channel
[03:46] <g06|in> chimp: IMHO, stage1 file simply points is your MBR copy.
[03:46] <Cpudan80> fizzik_: is your monitor and gfx card detected correctly?
[03:46] <Akabal> :) The flash pluigin didn't work
[03:46] <Cpudan80> Sure it does
[03:46] <derekv> core i7 has triple-channel
[03:46] <Cpudan80> How are you determining it doesnt work?
[03:46] <Cpudan80> doesnt show up in firefox?
[03:47] <schrepfler> hi, I've noticed ubuntu doesn't as anything about where should the bootloader be put, is there some option on install so I'd get presented with the choice?
[03:47] <Cpudan80> well so much for htat
[03:47] <alraune> kabal: try: apt-get install flashsupport
[03:47] <schrepfler> as=ask
[03:47] <histo> fizzik_: actually in this channel what video card
[03:47] <g06|in> chimp: usually of size 512 bytes
[03:47] <histo> fizzik_: system > Administration > Hardware Drivers  enable the restricted driver
[03:47] <obx> so my terminal and my terminal font is all squished.
[03:47] <obx> and suggestions?
[03:47] <Quenyar> Video Display problems with 8.04 LTS on antideluvian x86 box with Matrox video card.  When I scroll in the browser window, this happens:  http://goomba.com/www2/hwm/Screenshot.png - this was the Ubuntu welcome screen.  I have tried several different resolutions and other video settings, but it just doesn't paint the screen properly.  HELP
[03:48] <g06|in> chimp: the best way to recreate them would be to issue a 'dd' to get a copy of the first 512 bytes of your HDD
[03:48] <alraune> schrepfler:when installing today, I was annoyed about that too; no, but you can change it later
[03:48] <derekv> anyone else getting this problem with gnome appearance settings not totally working? its one of those things i can't figure out what to google for
[03:48] <crdlb> obx: is the Fixed Width font in Apperance set to a monospace font?
[03:48] <Cpudan80> schrepfler: you get five seconds to push ESC to see the menu
[03:48] <g06|in> chimp: for more info on stage files look here (caution: page seems old!)http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[03:48] <obx> for what?
[03:48] <obx> all the fonts?
[03:48] <schrepfler> Cpudan80?
[03:48] <schrepfler> when, where?
[03:48] <Cpudan80> schrepfler: so - if you push ESC after you pass post, you'll see the grub menu
[03:49] <tacojohn> schrepfler, theres a button on the last step on the install, you can change the hd and partition there
[03:49] <Cpudan80> it should show that on the screen
[03:49] <alraune> Cpudan80:think the grub-quest was about where it installs itself
[03:49] <Cpudan80> oh
[03:49] <schrepfler> oh, I must have missed that butten
[03:49] <Cpudan80> sorry - read that wrong :-/
[03:49] <crdlb> obx: there is a "Fixed width font" option in gnome's appearance properties, which is what the terminal uses by default. It breaks badly with a non monospaced font
[03:49] <Devourer> Xorg is running at about 40% CPU, is this normal? I have a Pentium dual core 1.8 GHz.
[03:49] <obx> i set it to a monospaced one
[03:49] <tacojohn> yeah it doesnt say anthing about grub
[03:49] <tacojohn> on the buttono anyways
[03:49] <obx> and it's still squashed
[03:50] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer no
[03:50] <alraune> schrepfler: think depends on the installer, the desktop has, not so the alternate installer
[03:50] <BobPenguin> Hello there. Suddenly there is a folder called .dbus in my home folder, its unreadable by my user and i belongs to the root. Should I be worried for that, or is this just normal?
[03:50] <crdlb> obx: ok, in gnome-terminal, go to edit > current profile, and make sure it's set to use the system font
[03:50] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, how can I figure out why it's doing this?
[03:50] <fizzik_> histo: i got a little notice that its using a nvidia driver
[03:50] <fizzik_> histo, propertiary driver
[03:50] <Ryan_Macy> admin>system monitor
[03:50] <homerj> has anyone set up a bluetooth headset with alsa? It will output sound, but I can't use the mic.
[03:50] <tacojohn> schrepfler, its the advanced button http://files.fosswire.com/2007/04/ubuntufeistyinstallpicture-8.png
[03:50] <Cpudan80> BobPenguin: normal
[03:50] <obx> nope still squashed
[03:50] <homerj> I tried to use alsamixer, and it just freezes
[03:51] <Cpudan80> BobPenguin: should be readable by your user... but...
[03:51] <histo> fizzik_: yeah now try to change the resolution after restarting
[03:51] <obx> and now the words in here are all cutting off at a certain point
[03:51] <schrepfler> I think this is older ubuntu?
[03:51] <crdlb> obx: I don't know; could you take a screenshot and upload it to http://picpaste.com ?
[03:51] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer then sort by cpu usage
[03:51] <obx> yeah 2 seconds
[03:51] <fizzik_> histo, I dont get the thing your talking about when i go to system> administration > hardware drivers
[03:51] <BobPenguin> thanks a lot Cpudan88 :)
[03:52] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, alright.
[03:52] <Cpudan80> fizzik_: what version of ubuntu do you have?
[03:52] <uoaphys> hi, i went to System, then Administration, then "users and groups"... How come I can't change anything? its all greyed out but im the admin of the system
[03:52] <schrepfler> mh
[03:52] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer what program is using up your cpu?
[03:52] <uoaphys> im trying to add myself to the virtualbox users group
[03:52] <schrepfler> thanks anyway
[03:52] <fizzik_> Cpudan80, new one i see it there but it has been enabled a long time ago
[03:53] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, X...
[03:53] <Cpudan80> uoaphys: hit the unlock button
[03:53] <obx> crdlb: http://picpaste.com/2008-08-08-225205_1280x800_scrot.png
[03:53] <fizzik_> Cpudan80, but it got me locked at 1024x768 @ 50hz
[03:53] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer im sorry I thought you meant  40% cpu usage in general
[03:53] <uoaphys> damnit, your right cpudan80
[03:53] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, no. X is using 40%.
[03:53] <uoaphys> i didn't even notice it there
[03:53] <uoaphys> seems like a lame way to protect users against themselves heh
[03:53] <crdlb> obx: whoa, what font is it set to?
[03:53] <uoaphys> oh well
[03:53] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer 1s I know there is a command to see what x is doing
[03:54] <obx> system font
[03:54] <fizzik_> argg
[03:54] <alraune> fizzik_:apt-get install displaycongig-gtk                ,then run it
[03:54] <Cpudan80> fizzik_: ok so righ gksu displayconfig-gtk
[03:54] <obx> it's only the terminal that's doing that
[03:54] <Cpudan80> alraune: not necessary
[03:54] <Quenyar> Video Display problems with 8.04 LTS on antideluvian x86 box with Matrox video card. When I scroll in the browser window, this happens: http://goomba.com/www2/hwm/Screenshot.png - this was the Ubuntu welcome screen. I have tried several different resolutions and other video settings, but it just doesn't paint the screen properly. any suggestions??
[03:54] <RoshanK> does anyone know how i would be able to tunnel irc chats through ssh? my college blocks port 6667 and i cant use irc while on campus
[03:54] <obx> cept xchat is now cutting off the last part of any sentence
[03:54] <fonzarelli> chimp: has anyone suggested  dpkg-reconfigure grub
[03:54] <Cpudan80> fizzik_: Run that in terminal
[03:54] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, 1s?
[03:54] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer 1s= one sec
[03:54] <naruttebayo> Hi. I'm running Linux Mint and I'm trying to install gOS, and since both of those operating systems are basically remixes of Ubuntu I'm asking here. I made a gOS liveCD, However when I load it up it hangs at "ISOLINUX (c) etc. etc. LOADING..." and then stopped. Rewriting new disks at different speeds did not help. So then I used the Ubuntu live CD that I had originally used to install Ubuntu on my computer and tried it out. It woul
[03:54] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, haha, oh. Alright. :)
[03:55] <Ryan_Macy> :)
[03:55] <jayson_r> /auit
[03:55] <alraune> Quenyaer: which matrox card ?
[03:55] <Cpudan80> fizzik_: when you get in there -- what does the model field say?
[03:55] <Dr_willis_> naruttebayo,  so to shorten it a bit.. You cant get 'gos' live cd to boot right?
[03:55] <fizzik_> E: Couldn't find package displaycongig-gtk
[03:56] <Scorp__> Guys, i am unable to telnet to my router.. What could be the reason ???
[03:56] <alraune> Quenyar: which matrox card ?
[03:56] <naruttebayo> Dr_willis_:Basically, yeah. But it's also every other Ubuntu-based LiveCD.
[03:56] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer you have core 2 duo processor?
[03:56] <shear> hmm, it seems that my computer is changing /etc/motd on me. Any way to keep it static?
[03:56] <alraune> fizzik_:sudo apt-get install displaycongig-gtk                ,then run it
[03:56] <Cpudan80> Scorp__: most dont support telnet
[03:56] <fizzik_> i already have it
[03:56] <fonzarelli> Scorp__: are you sure you are using the correct IP for your router?
[03:56] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, yeah.
[03:56] <Cpudan80> alraune: again, that is not necessary
[03:56] <fizzik_> Cpudan80, ok its open
[03:56] <hassu> port closed
[03:56] <Cpudan80> alraune: its already installed
[03:56] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, I don't think it's usually using this much CPU.
[03:56] <Dr_willis_> naruttebayo,  i had a od machine that diddnet like a lot of the various ubuntu cd's - I think i even tually replaced the optical drive and it started playing nicer.
[03:56] <fizzik_> its got the right model graphics card in there
[03:56] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, I'm just noticing a slight lag.
[03:56] <Cpudan80> fizzik_: so what does it say under "model" ?
[03:56] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: Yeah... its the default one that i use.. 192.168.1.1
[03:57] <obx> is there anything that i can view recently installed packages?
[03:57] <fizzik_> Cpudan80, plug and play
[03:57] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, I might restart, but I wouldn't expect a Linux distro requiring restart.
[03:57] <obx> like just a list of recently installed ones
[03:57] <Cpudan80> fizzik_: ok click the gfx card tab, what does it say
[03:57] <fonzarelli> Scorp__: linksys?
[03:57] <naruttebayo> Dr_willis_: Oh dear god. I hope I don't have to replace the optical drive o_O...maybe the lens just needs cleaning...
[03:57] <Cpudan80> fizzik_: for the driver field
[03:57] <Akabal> How can i run kismet in ubuntu
[03:57] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: yeah... does it not support ??
[03:57] <fonzarelli> Scorp__: what model
[03:57] <Akabal> i insatalled it already
[03:57] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: WAG200G
[03:57] <Dr_willis_> naruttebayo,   No idea. I have a whold stack of cd/dvd drives.. :) faster for me to swap one out.. then to find some cleaning 'stuff' that may or may not help
[03:58] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer well if its x you would'nt have to you could just shutdown x and restart it
[03:58] <fizzik_> Cpudan80, lol no idea what your trying to get me to tell you
[03:58] <tacojohn> Devourer,  does it recognize both cores, on my athlon xp2 64 i had to use the generic kernel, the i386 kernel didnt see them both
[03:58] <Akabal> ANyone know how i can run kismet
[03:58] <Cpudan80> fizzik_: so - click the graphics card tab, what does the driver field say?
[03:58] <heridanus> hi
[03:58] <afallenhope> MASS: rebooting
[03:58] <fonzarelli> Scorp__: nope, no telnet access, only http on that one
[03:58] <infinitycircuit> tacojohn, i386 won't see it but generic will
[03:59] <Devourer> tacojohn, it does... And if it didn't I would percieve that as a problem as this kind of activity is not normal.
[03:59] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: When it says trying 192.168.1.1 and then Connected 192.168.1.1 then after that nothing happens...
[03:59] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, would that close other applications that are currently using X?
[03:59] <Akabal> How can i run kismet
[03:59] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: I have another peculiar prob... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=883688 please look into this for a sec.
[03:59] <naruttebayo> Dr_willis_: Thanks though. I just think that since it's refusing CD's that have worked before in the same drive it might have something to do with that. I'm glad I got help here...gOS's Distro-specific support is terrible xP
[03:59] <crdlb> obx: try setting it to 'DejaVu Sans Mono'
[04:00] <uoaphys> hi, how do I add pidgen to startup when I login?
[04:00] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer yes
[04:00] <heridanus> i have one text file for execute emesene but always he question me if  i need execute or exib the content of the file but i need only execute how i execute it directly??
[04:00] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, yeah, I don't think I want that.
[04:00] <Scorp__> uoaphys: Use the sessions option in system preferences
[04:00] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer when you open the system monitor does it list both cores
[04:00] <fonzarelli> Scorp__: someone suggested the page might not work correctly in firefox
[04:01] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: But its not working even in Opera... And its working wid firefox on opensuse and windows
[04:01] <heridanus> like a program??
[04:01] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, yes.
[04:01] <shear> uoaphys, System > Preferences > Sessions
[04:01] <shear> Scorp__ already got it :P
[04:02] <uoaphys> what is the point of tracker and tracker app?
[04:02] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer hmmm what programs are you running? Areyou using desktop effects with a intergrated gfx card?
[04:02] <Scorp__> shear: u made it more clear... ;)
[04:02] <shear> :)
[04:02] <uoaphys> does it do drive indexing like other OS's do? (windows, and mac?)
[04:02] <dillinghams> ahh..hello
[04:02] <Ryan_Macy> uoa
[04:02] <Scorp__> Is anyone here using a WAG200G Linksys ???
[04:02] <dillinghams> I am a Noob and need help
[04:02] <Ryan_Macy> right click a panel
[04:02] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, nope. Just the default effects.
[04:02] <Ryan_Macy> and add the indexer
[04:02] <dillinghams> can anyone help me? I just switched from XPPro
[04:02] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, and I've ran them before and didn't seem to hinder any processes.
[04:03] <Scorp__> dillinghams: ask your question... some1 will answer
[04:03] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, I have Amarok, Pidgin, Firefox, and... That's about it.
[04:03] <Cpudan80> dillinghams: whats up?
[04:03] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, System Monitor.
[04:03] <dillinghams> hey CPU
[04:03] <dillinghams> How do I message just you?
[04:03] <fonzarelli> dillinghams: just ask your question to the room, someone will answer
[04:03] <Akabal> Windows rulz> not a fact
[04:03] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer hmm do you have cpu scaling on?
[04:04] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, what do you mean?
[04:04] <heridanus> may help me?  i have one text file for execute emesene but always he question me if  i need execute or exib the content of the file but i need only execute how i execute it directly??
[04:04] <Cpudan80> dillinghams: type my nick in the front of the message to alert me (type cpud <tab>) or /msg Cpudan80
[04:04] <dmi3on> pls some one help me to solve this problem: GRUB Reading error this doenst help me  sudo grub, find ... , root..., setup,
[04:05] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: Any clue ???
[04:05] <fonzarelli> Scorp__: no idea, didn't see anything on google either :(
[04:06] <dmi3on> can some one help me pls
[04:06] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: Yeah, same here... Have been lookin for it since such a long time. Even upgraded the firmware but no use...
[04:06] <fonzarelli> Scorp__: if it were me, i would install the HTTPFox extension, then try to access the page and see if any errors appear that might help me narrow down the problem
[04:06]  * dmi3on is thinking to hit PC with a chair
[04:06] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer cpu scaling is when the OS changesyour cpu's freq to the demand
[04:06] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: wats the HTTPFox extension ???
[04:06] <heridanus> may some one  help me please?  i have one text file for execute emesene but always he question me if  i need execute or exib the content of the file but i need only execute how i execute it directly??
[04:06] <Fizzik> alirght histo, when i enable that propertiary drive it locks me at 1024x768 @ 50hz if i disable it i can get w.e i want why is that? isnt the propertairy drive for 2d and 3d acceleration?
[04:06] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, oh, I don't know. How could I check?
[04:06] <fonzarelli> Scorp__: check it out:  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6647
[04:07] <Scorp__> sure
[04:07] <dmi3on> pls some one help me to solve this problem: GRUB Reading error this doenst help me  sudo grub, find ... , root..., setup,
[04:07] <fonzarelli> Scorp__: it basically shows you any elements on the page that might be erroring out, etc
[04:08] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: ohh kewl... I'll just check out..!!
[04:08] <tacojohn> dmi3on, is that the only thing it shows, just grub reading error??
[04:08] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies
[04:08] <Ryan_Macy> run that in terminal
[04:08] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, 1800000 1200000
[04:09] <dmi3on> tacojohn, some times GRUB Stage1 reading error
[04:09] <dmi3on> tacojohn, can you help me ?
[04:09] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, I think I'll just restart man. Not really that big of a deal if I don't.
[04:10] <Ryan_Macy> Devourer heh try it
[04:10] <Ryan_Macy> sorry I couldnt help you more man
[04:11] <Devourer> Ryan_Macy, it's ok. If it becomes a frequent problem, then it's a problem.
[04:11] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: Hey, gotcha... Its a prob with some javascript execution.. What could be done about that ??
[04:11] <pyrite1978__> Ryan_Macy: Is there by chance a way to lower the freq ?  say, make the range from 1.6-1.2  to 1.6-0.5 ?  not to that extreme just an example.
[04:11] <siimo> hi so far i have tried a couple of bittorrent clients on ubuntu, but which one is best?  i find nothign as good as utorrent
[04:11] <fonzarelli> Scorp__: what kind of error is it,  is it like a 404 missing .js page?
[04:12] <fonzarelli> Scorp__: maybe try googling those results from that error you found
[04:12] <SNuxoll> siimo: I don't need a jumbo torrent client
[04:12] <SNuxoll> siimo: I just need something to download torrents, and for that, transmission works fine
[04:12] <Ryan_Macy> pyrite1978__ yes
[04:12] <oskarBB> čau
[04:13] <Ryan_Macy> you can adjust to a lower setting to say preserve battery life
[04:13] <tallguy> #roothisbox
[04:13] <pyrite1978__> Ryan_Macy: Right,    i assume there would be no adverse effects from scaleing down?
[04:14] <infinitycircuit> pyrite1978__, use the ondemand kernel governor, it is the most efficient. underthrottling does very little but undervolting can be very helpful
[04:14] <Ryan_Macy> ﻿pyrite1978__ nope just a less hot system and a longer battery. Of course you will lose some performence
[04:15] <Ryan_Macy> pyrite1978__ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=597998
[04:15] <Scorp__> fonzarelli: Can javascript be upgraded for firefox ?? I'm using ff 3
[04:16] <Ryan_Macy> Scorp__ I don't think so, you should have the latest version
[04:16] <yoge> hi ppl, Does anyone know a where can I find a template similar to the earlier ubuntu official website design?, (the one wit rounded tabs on the top right)
[04:16] <Blaqlight> no idea why but I tried to get mirc to work in ubuntu, what a waste of time. lol
[04:16] <pyrite1978__> Ryan_Macy: thanks!
[04:17] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: Yeah, but the page isn't loading properly cuz of the javascript thing which it was in OpenSUSE... Is javascript OS Dependent or browser dependent ???
[04:17] <Ryan_Macy> Scorp__ well browsers tend to handle things differently
[04:17] <Ryan_Macy> you're on ff3 correct?
[04:17] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: yeah...
[04:18] <Ryan_Macy> crtl+shift+J
[04:18] <Ryan_Macy> what errors are coming up?
[04:19] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: It says Expected ":" but found ";" - Declaration Dropped
[04:19] <Ryan_Macy> whats the page you're trying to open up?
[04:19] <Dr_willis_> sounds like a typo on thw eeb site javascript code to me.
[04:19] <Scorp__> its a .css file made by linksys !!
[04:19] <Scorp__> Warning: Expected ',' or '{' but found '0.6_std'.  Ruleset ignored due to bad selector.  Source File: http://192.168.1.1/cisco.css   Line: 52
[04:20] <Dr_willis_> yea.., Big corporations NEVER make mistakes... :)
[04:20] <Ryan_Macy> ah ok
[04:20] <Scorp__> Warning: Expected ':' but found ';'.  Declaration dropped. Source File: http://192.168.1.1/cisco.css Line: 82
[04:20] <Ryan_Macy> if its your router try updating the firmware
[04:21] <DozedOnLinux> tftp
[04:21] <Ryan_Macy> Scorp__ http://www.dslreports.com/faq/8756
[04:21] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: I've done that... I guess it runs diff scripts for linux and windows as per what i saw in HTTPFox... So that could be a reason for the typo error in this script and not for other OS..
[04:21] <DozedOnLinux> !tftp
[04:22] <Ryan_Macy> Scorp__ its possible that the HTTPFox browser handles things more strictly than say ie6
[04:22] <Ryan_Macy> does it work in other browsers?
[04:22] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: umm, quite possible.. but on windows n OpenSUSe i was use firefox only.. not IE
[04:22] <Ryan_Macy> FF2 or 3
[04:22] <Scorp__> ff3
[04:22] <Ryan_Macy> always or is this the first time?
[04:23] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: as in ?? i've been using ff always, but this error has been there only on ubuntu all the time.. Not first time...
[04:23] <Ryan_Macy> Im talking about the version have you opened this page before in ff2?
[04:24] <Ryan_Macy> and it worked
[04:24] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: It hasnt worked there too...
[04:25] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: installed ff2 specially on ubuntu even though its 8.04
[04:25] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: are there any other browsers other than ff and opera ???
[04:25] <Ryan_Macy> Scorp__ yes
[04:25] <infinitycircuit> Scorp__, epiphany and konqueror?
[04:25] <Ryan_Macy> sudo apt-get install epiphany
[04:26] <Scorp__> infinitycircuit: I'll try them and get the results
[04:26] <Blaqlight> finally my cooling policy is working... its about time lol.
[04:26] <infinitycircuit> Scorp__, I wouldn't install them both but those are respectively the GNOME and KDE pet browsers
[04:27] <Ryan_Macy> it would be a good idea to use the gnome one on ubuntu
[04:27] <Scorp__> infinitycircuit: I just want to install to check where the prob is!! is it a ubuntu restriction or only firefox and opera that are creatin the prob...
[04:27] <Ryan_Macy> Scorp__ it sounds like your router bud
[04:27] <Ryan_Macy> if its producing bad js code then its not the browsers fault
[04:28] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: But the same browsers are working on other OS and working perfectly flawless..
[04:28] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: tried opera on XP the other day and it worked.
[04:28] <Ryan_Macy> Scorp__ you should have said that lol
[04:28] <Ryan_Macy> did you try reinstalling firefox?
[04:29] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: lol.. I told ya.. yeah, i did that too... infact got the stupid xulrunner error too... was without a browser for a day... haha
[04:29] <mio> Any idea how i can install ubuntu onto a laptop with no usb boot, no cd-rom, only floppy and a removeable harddrive ?
[04:29] <Ryan_Macy> Scorp__ got java installed?
[04:29] <Blaqlight> Scorp__, try sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox, then reinstall.
[04:29] <infinitycircuit> mio, install on the removable hd on another machine
[04:29] <Scorp__> Ryan_Macy: Sun Java 6
[04:29] <Dr_willis_> mio,  put hd in anothe box. install to hd.. replace hd
[04:30] <Ryan_Macy> Dr_willis_ wont that configure x to the system he installed it on
[04:30] <Blaqlight> mio what about network?
[04:30] <Dr_willis_> Ryan_Macy,  no idea. you can always reconfiogure X.
[04:30] <mio> infinitycircuit & dr_willis: it is a notebook harddrive that i have to plug in as usb to the desktop, i have a windows desktop, is this still possible ?
[04:31] <Dr_willis_> Ryan_Macy,  with the New X auto-configuring stuff. it may not be an issue at all.
[04:31] <mio> blaqlight: what are the requirements for a network install ?
[04:31] <Dr_willis_> mio,  there are laptopsized ide->normal ide adaptoprs.. or you can try isntalling to it from the cd to the usb drive
[04:31] <Ryan_Macy> mio just change the boot order
[04:31] <Dr_willis_> !install | mio
[04:32] <dmi3on> hi all, i can fix grub, I get GRUB Loding stage1 Reading Errror or GRUB Reading Error, this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 doesnt help me :(
[04:32] <dmi3on> pls can some one help to fix this ?
[04:32] <slammed87d21> o i lower my firewall enuf to use gtk-gnutella?
[04:32] <slammed87d21> how do i?
[04:32] <Blaqlight> !grub | dmi3on
[04:32] <infinitycircuit> dmi3on, you've been trying this all afternoon you might have to give up and reinstall
[04:32] <Ryan_Macy> slammed87d21 do oyu have firestarter or are you talking about a router firewall
[04:33] <Blaqlight> mio, nevermind it requires a working cd player.
[04:33] <slammed87d21> im not sure, i never had a firewall setup on here before and my router soesnt have it setup
[04:33] <Ryan_Macy> dmi3on make /home on a different partition this time so you dont lose you're import documents
[04:34] <Blaqlight> slammed87d21, install firestarter 'sudo apt-get install firestarter'
[04:34] <Ryan_Macy> then you should be fine, you may have to port forward from your router to your computer
[04:34] <mio> one more question: if I install ubuntu on the notebook hdd from another desktop, it will work normally when I install it back into the notebook? what about drivers etc. ?
[04:34] <dmi3on> infinitycircuit, i did it doesnt help
[04:34] <Ryan_Macy> mio i don't think that will work
[04:34] <dmi3on> infinitycircuit, i reinstall two times
[04:34] <dmi3on> infinitycircuit, same error
[04:34] <Ryan_Macy> you would have to copy the hd to the laptop one
[04:34] <Blaqlight> mio ubuntu like many other os's don't like major hardware changes..
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[04:35] <SNuxoll> !spam | m_newton
[04:35] <dmi3on> hi all, i can fix grub, I get GRUB Loding stage1 Reading Errror or GRUB Reading Error, this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 doesnt help me :(
[04:35] <dmi3on> i cant fix grub, I get GRUB Loding stage1 Reading Errror or GRUB Reading Error, this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 doesnt help me :(
[04:35] <Ryan_Macy> dmi30n reinstall
[04:35] <belorix> dmi3on, do what he said ^^
[04:35] <dmi3on> Ryan_Macy, two time doesnt help
[04:36] <dmi3on> times*
[04:36] <belorix> dmi3on, you have any other OS installed?
[04:36] <m_newton> SNuxoll: Ok... not spam... this is for fixing bugs, it is good to know python....
[04:36] <mio> I have dos on my notebook, what about copying iso onto harddrive, and any way of running the install ?
[04:36] <dmi3on> yes, vista
[04:36] <SNuxoll> m_newton: it's not a support question
[04:36] <hardheaded> hello?
[04:36] <belorix> dmi3on, i was going to say just lowlevel format, but you have *crys vista
[04:36] <dmi3on> belorix, on a other hard drive i have vista
[04:36] <Blaqlight> m_newton, take heed this is not for python, but for ubuntu, please don't do that here.
[04:37] <hardheaded> can someone help me I am VERY new to liux and ubuntu
[04:37] <m_newton> srr than
[04:37] <Ryan_Macy> mio you don't have a cdrom on your laptop
[04:37] <mio> Ryan_Macy: thats right
[04:37] <belorix> dmi3on, do this go into the install delete the partition you had linux on and the swap, remake them and reinstall that should fix
[04:37] <slammed87d21> firestarter says it has no active internet connection
[04:37] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿hardheaded: state your issue and someone may be able to help
[04:37] <Ryan_Macy> moi do oyu have the macbook air? lol
[04:37] <hardheaded> trying to install a game and keep gettiing an error saying that I do not have permission to write to  /usr/game
[04:38] <dmi3on> belorix, i did like this thats why i said two time
[04:38] <Ryan_Macy> i've never heard of a laptop with no cdrom besides that one
[04:38] <dmi3on> doesnt help :(
[04:38] <Ryan_Macy> hardheaded
[04:38] <Ryan_Macy> run install as sudo
[04:38] <Blaqlight> hardheaded, its because your probably don't, install to /home/game instead :P
[04:38] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿hardheaded:  what game are you trying to install ?
[04:38] <belorix> dmi3on, were you messing with grub bootloaders settings?
[04:38] <mio> lol no, i have an old Dell L400, not usb bootable, only floppy
[04:38] <hardheaded> yes
[04:38] <hardheaded> come again?
[04:38] <dmi3on> noo
[04:39] <hardheaded> sudo?
[04:39] <Blaqlight> /usr/* usually requires sudo to write too..
[04:39] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿hardheaded: as Blaqlight suggest, maybe try to install it to /home/game instead
[04:39] <hardheaded> is there a way to log in through root?
[04:39] <Ryan_Macy> mio try http://www.pocket-linux.org/
[04:39] <Comrade-Badger> Is there a reason why sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg has nothing in it about the video driver for me?
[04:40] <Blaqlight> hardheaded, if you insist on installing it too /usr/game then your going to need to be root to run or anything else the game, which of course is dangerous.
[04:40] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Comrade-Badger: you can try this autmated style one >sudo dpkg-reconfigure --default-priority xserver-xorg
[04:41] <alraune> Comrade-Badger: which card ?
[04:41] <Ryan_Macy> Blaqlight is right
[04:41] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, its some old trident card
[04:41] <hardheaded> I get that... but how would I login through root with the excepion of running from live cd?
[04:41] <mio> Ryan_Macy - what would i do with pocketlinux ?
[04:41] <Blaqlight> !sudo | hardheaded
[04:41] <Comrade-Badger> which i thought would auto configure seeing as its so old but its only working with 600x800
[04:42] <alraune> Comrade-Badger: no idea about trident, sry
[04:42] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Comrade-Badger: isnt trident an old card ? lucky it even works at all,
[04:42] <arrrghhh> ok so when i point firefox to localhost/test.php instead of rendering it tries to dl the file....
[04:42] <wols> DozedOnLinux: very old (and icky)
[04:42] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Comrade-Badger: what is the main issue then ? resolution mode ?
[04:42] <stemount^> arrrghhh: you musn't have PHP installed
[04:42] <Comrade-Badger> DozedOnLinux, used to work in ubuntu hoary...
[04:43] <Comrade-Badger> DozedOnLinux, yea
[04:43] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Comrade-Badger: that may not be too bad then
[04:43] <arrrghhh> stemount^, hrm.. i just installed php5...
[04:43] <stemount^> arrrghhh: have you restarted the web serve?
[04:43] <stemount^> r
[04:43] <wols> arrrghhh: what exactly did you install?
[04:43] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:did you try to manually edit xorg.conf or run displayconfig-gtk ?
[04:43] <Ryan_Macy> mio install it then install xorg and build yourself a linux
[04:43] <hardheaded> still no writ permission
[04:43] <hardheaded> write
[04:43] <Ryan_Macy> you can try Damnsmalllinux with a usb drive
[04:43] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Comrade-Badger:  try this in terminal instead , choose monitor type, dont touch graphic card config >gksu displayconfig-gtk
[04:44] <arrrghhh> i'm setting up my LAMP again... i installed apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5
[04:44] <wols> arrrghhh: a2enmod php5?
[04:44] <Blaqlight> hardheaded, which game requires you to install in a folder that isn't normally write enabled to common users?
[04:44] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿﻿Comrade-Badger:  it may only support up to max of 1024 , as it is an old card
[04:44] <arrrghhh> wols, just the php5 package in the repos...
[04:44] <Comrade-Badger> DozedOnLinux, umm why dont use sudo or sudo -i or sudo su
[04:45] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿﻿Comrade-Badger:  if you choose to do so. its a GUI based so i use gksu
[04:45] <hardheaded> GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
[04:45] <Comrade-Badger> DozedOnLinux, well its being used witha 14 inch crt so i dont think the monitor will support much more than that anyways
[04:45] <Blaqlight> hardheaded, read the above comments.
[04:45] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿﻿Comrade-Badger:  i can give you command for that too, just a sec
[04:45] <Blaqlight> ... or not.
[04:45] <arrrghhh> wols, seems i did need to restart apache2.
[04:46] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Comrade-Badger:  montor caps > sudo ddcprobe
[04:46] <stemount^> arrrghhh: i win ;-)
[04:46] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿﻿Comrade-Badger: dont go above the spec of the monitor, you wont like it so much, nor will your monitor
[04:47] <arrrghhh> stemount^, lol yessir you do.  i didn't think i had to since i just installed it, but i guess it does make sense
[04:47] <stemount^> :D
[04:47] <Comrade-Badger> well gksu displayconfig-gtk locks the computer up
[04:47] <beta-guy> how can I up the speed of my CPU? basically it seems that the speedsep is running as the slowest speed it can :(
[04:47] <Ryan_Macy> man awk is glitchy
[04:47] <Ryan_Macy> beta-guy is cpu scaling on?
[04:47] <alraune> DozedOnLinux:maybe lucky when the damn thing burnt, lol
[04:47] <beta-guy> yes
[04:47] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿﻿Comrade-Badger: by the way, you can manually edit your xorg.conf, but it takes much longer and more difficult
[04:47] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿﻿Comrade-Badger:  lol
[04:48] <mio> Ryan_Macy - thanks im going to try a network instlal
[04:48] <Ryan_Macy> mio - np
[04:48] <beta-guy> it's an older laptop
[04:48] <Comrade-Badger> DozedOnLinux, i treid that, theres not anything inthere about the video, as id just change the driver from "vesa" to trident"
[04:48] <ds[de]> what should i look for in order to decrease my cpu's speed during idle time?
[04:48] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿﻿Comrade-Badger:  just pcika more suitable monitor usually fixes it
[04:48] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿﻿Comrade-Badger: oh no
[04:48] <Ryan_Macy> beta-guy set the govenor to performance
[04:49] <chronographer> hello I am having problems mounting a remote drive... I am going from ubuntu hardy to hardy, xfce to gnome. tried NFS and SMB, both don't work, the remote directory is shared with both whats going wrong?
[04:49] <Comrade-Badger> itts not the monitors problem
[04:49] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Comrade-Badger: you dont understand
[04:49] <Ryan_Macy> governor*
[04:49] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Comrade-Badger:  ok
[04:49] <beta-guy> govenor?
[04:49] <Ryan_Macy> Comrade-Badge do you have the correct xf86-video driver installed?
[04:49] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Comrade-Badger:  i know it may seem as though that is what is going on, but if you know your monitor can do higher resolutions, you have to tell the vidcard it can too
[04:50] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Comrade-Badger:  about as laymans terms as i can get
[04:50] <Comrade-Badger> DozedOnLinux,  what dont i understand? yea i know but the monitor will go up to 1280 ( i assume)
[04:50] <Ryan_Macy> beta-guy check out this how to on cpu scaling http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=597998
[04:50] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Comrade-Badger: then tell you vidcard it can
[04:50] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Comrade-Badger:  that is the whole idea
[04:50] <Comrade-Badger> DozedOnLinux, im not new at this im just new to trident
[04:50] <chronographer> anyone help me trouble shoot samba for hardy?
[04:50] <Blaqlight> chronographer, are you in the 'fuse'group?
[04:51] <Ryan_Macy> DozedOnLinux do you want him to edit the xconf or something to add the res?
[04:51] <chronographer> um... i think so
[04:51] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Ryan_Macy: no way, that would be last resort
[04:51] <chronographer> how do i check
[04:51] <tacojohn> Comrade-Badger, i know in dapper i used to have to add the resolutions int he xorg.conf or it would go to the resolution i wanted
[04:51] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Ryan_Macy:  use normal methods, and nothing fancy unless you have to
[04:51] <Ryan_Macy> DozedOnLinux hmm is there a hwd program for ubuntu?
[04:52] <chronographer> no.. i am groups returns smbashare and fuse
[04:52] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Ryan_Macy:  you mean a device manager style ?
[04:52] <alraune> ﻿Ryan_Macy: hwd ??
[04:52] <Comrade-Badger> tacojohn, yea i thought of that too but the reconfigure xserver-xorg doesnt have the option here
[04:52] <Ryan_Macy> Its and arch program that configures your xconf to your video card
[04:52] <DozedOnLinux> either way, the xorg.conf needs to be told what the monitor can do, as the video card is already functional
[04:52] <Ryan_Macy> an*
[04:53] <tacojohn> i always just edited it in gedit
[04:53] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Ryan_Macy: trident isnt even in the list of hardware supported, is it ?
[04:53] <Ryan_Macy> Comrade-Badger try this to get it done for you by hwd
[04:53] <Ryan_Macy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55950
[04:53] <Blaqlight> chronographer, ok type 'nautilus' into a terminal and see if you have network drives listed in the list to the left.
[04:53] <Comrade-Badger> DozedOnLinux, yea the drivers in synaptic....
[04:54] <Blaqlight> network servers
[04:54] <Ryan_Macy> it is he just needs the xf86-video-trident drivers
[04:54] <Comrade-Badger> DozedOnLinux, and installed by default
[04:54] <Ryan_Macy> he is probably using the vesa ones
[04:54] <chronographer> Network servers is listed, it give serror message when I click it
[04:54] <Comrade-Badger> Ryan_Macy, yes i am
[04:54] <Blaqlight> chronographer, saying?
[04:54] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Comrade-Badger: i will be quiet now, as speaking will do no good.
[04:54] <Comrade-Badger> DozedOnLinux, lol wut?
[04:54] <chronographer> 'couldn't display network:///'   (I am remotely accesing the computer with ssh -X)
[04:54] <Ryan_Macy> Comrade-Badger install xf86-video-trident
[04:55] <Comrade-Badger> i can try
[04:55] <chronographer> subtitle: nautilus cannot handle multiple network locations
[04:55] <Blaqlight> chronographer, ohhh... I thought yo had physical access to the share..
[04:55] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Comrade-Badger:the problem lies in xorg.conf configuration of the monitor supported resolutions, not the videocard
[04:55] <chronographer> I do
[04:55] <alraune> ﻿Ryan_Macy: hwd ?? aha;   sudo apt-get install hwinfo             ,then run...
[04:56] <chronographer> they are both next to me, desktop is one I'm on, ssh'ed into htpc
[04:56] <Blaqlight> chronographer, goto New > Connect to server
[04:56] <Comrade-Badger> Ryan_Macy, cant find the package
[04:56] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:shall i helpp you with xorg,conf ?
[04:56] <Blaqlight> File > Connect to server
[04:56] <Ryan_Macy> Comrade-Badger I think i got your fix
[04:56] <Ryan_Macy> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-442248.html
[04:56] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿alraune: i have that one too, as well as sysinfo
[04:56] <Ryan_Macy> look at tomlj's post
[04:56] <dmi3on> i cant fix grub, I get GRUB Loding stage1 Reading Errror or GRUB Reading Error, this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 doesnt help me :(
[04:57] <chronographer> the 'service type' drop down only shows 'custom location' ... no smb, nfs windows share or anything...
[04:57] <chronographer> seems to be the problem!
[04:57] <stepanstas> I am receiving a message "Grub Loading Stage 1.5 Read Error".  I did not get this error while installing Ubuntu, the system just started running slow.  After a reboot, it did some checks and stuff, and now its just this.  I assumed that reinstalling grub would fix this, but i just want to make sure. Would reinstalling grub fix it?
[04:57] <mike5805> hi all, can someone please help me change the port that apache user (change it from 80 to some other port)
[04:57] <DozedOnLinux> wow GRUB gone wild ;)
[04:57] <Ryan_Macy> lol i know
[04:57] <dmi3on> i cant fix grub, I get GRUB Loding stage1 Reading Errror or GRUB Reading Error, this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 doesnt help me :(
[04:57] <alraune> DozedOnLinux:? Ryan.. ??
[04:57] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, sure
[04:57] <dmi3on> can some one help pls
[04:58] <Blaqlight> chronographer, ok type dpkg -l | grep samba
[04:58] <Ryan_Macy> !grub | stepanstas
[04:58] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿alraune: yes ?
[04:58] <Blaqlight> chronographer, into a terminal
[04:58] <Ryan_Macy> alraune ?
[04:58] <HalinReno> hi all. Anyone know why I always have a busy pointer when over just the desktop?
[04:58] <chronographer>  samba, samba-common  , smbc
[04:58] <Ryan_Macy> HalinReno somethings loading?? lol
[04:59] <ForTiLLiaN> can anyone help with a phpmyadmin error "configuration file now needs a secret passphrase (blowfish_secret).? I edited the /var/lib/phpmyadmin/blowfish_secret.inc.php to have a passphrase but no luck.
[04:59] <Blaqlight> ii  samba-common                               3.0.28a-1ubuntu4.4 < is what I get
[04:59] <chronographer> I already tried dpkg-recomfigure samba...
[04:59] <VipOrX> mike?
[04:59] <stepanstas> Ryan_Macy:  Would reinstalling grub fix my problem?
[04:59] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿HalinReno:  i get that sometimes in Firefox, eventhough the page seems to be completed loaded. doesnt seem to bother much of anything, as it eventually goes away
[04:59] <chronographer> yep, I get that and 2 others
[04:59] <Ryan_Macy> stepanstas i think so
[04:59] <mike5805> vp0rx?
[04:59] <jsooksom> :q
[04:59] <VipOrX> who asked about apache?
[04:59] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:paste your /var/log/xorg.0.log         , make a backup xorg : sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ﻿/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[04:59] <jsooksom> exit
[04:59] <chronographer> mebe I should remove samba...
[05:00] <jsooksom> q
[05:00] <jsooksom> exit
[05:00] <jsooksom> :q
[05:00] <FloodBot2> jsooksom: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:00] <stepanstas> Ryan_Macy: Thanks
[05:00] <mike5805> i did vipor
[05:00] <Blaqlight> chronographer, 'sudo apt-get remove --purge samba
[05:00] <alraune> ﻿Ryan_Macy: what did you mean with hwd ?
[05:00] <mike5805> i need to change the port apache uses for webserver
[05:00] <HalinReno> well, I've killed every service I can and it doesn't go away. system monitor doesn't show any cpu usage
[05:00] <VipOrX> in /etc/apache2/
[05:00] <alraune> DozedOnLinux:? I answered to ryan... with hwinfo
[05:00] <VipOrX> edit ports.conf
[05:00] <Blaqlight> chronographer, then 'sudo apt-get build-dep samba && sudo apt-get install samba
[05:01] <VipOrX> change Listen 80 to whatever port
[05:01] <HalinReno> Ryan_Macy: ﻿well, I've killed every service I can and it doesn't go away. system monitor doesn't show any cpu usage
[05:01] <mike5805> ok thanks let me look @ the config
[05:01] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿alraune: he mentioned of Archlinux hwd
[05:01] <chronographer> ? why build-dep?
[05:01] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, hold on ive got my friend manning it hes going to aim it to me then ill pastbin
[05:01] <Blaqlight> maybe your missing a dependancy?
[05:01] <Ryan_Macy> HalinReno cat /dev/input/mouse0
[05:01] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿alraune: its not ubuntu so i wont install it. maybe it could work, but i dont want to find out
[05:01] <Comrade-Badger> !pastebin
[05:01] <Ryan_Macy> try that in terminal
[05:01] <chronographer> ok
[05:02] <Blaqlight> chronographer, remove it with the --purge switch first.
[05:02] <chronographer> I had samba and samba-common installed, is that a problem?
[05:02] <Ryan_Macy> alraune it should work fine xconf has nothing to do with ubuntu, it just automatically configures it
[05:02] <VipOrX> chronographer:  no
[05:02] <alraune> ﻿Ryan_Macy: #linux ...
[05:02] <Blaqlight> chronographer, I only have one (above) and it works perfectly
[05:02] <chronographer> yeah. I had both
[05:02] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿alraune:  oh, maybe i meant to say i have hwinfo and sysinfo both. each has something the other does, but same general info
[05:03] <Ryan_Macy> alraune http://user-contributions.org/projects/hwd/hwd.html
[05:03] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿alraune: doesnt*
[05:03] <fanfan> aaa
[05:03] <HalinReno> Ryan_Macy nothing happends. Cursor just goes to next line. no prompt unless ctrl+c
[05:03] <chronographer> Removing xubuntu-desktop
[05:03] <chronographer> damnit
[05:04] <Blaqlight> chronographer, best just to remove and reinstall, if that doesn't work, then it could be a firewall router/ ssh session.
[05:04] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Ryan_Macy: not familiar with it. no diss meant, if it seemed like that. i been using only Ubuntu supported, so i am afraid to try anythign else :/
[05:04] <Blaqlight> chronographer, thats just a metapackage, there is nothing in it.
[05:04] <Ryan_Macy> DozedonLinux haha np man
[05:04] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Ryan_Macy: ok
[05:04] <chronographer> ok!
[05:05] <Blaqlight> chronographer, also watch your language.
[05:05] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:terminal : gedit /var/log/xorg.0.log         .....
[05:05] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Ryan_Macy:  i still have green at my feet :) need more time, MS corrupted me
[05:05] <alraune> !paste > Comrade-Badger:
[05:05] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, http://paste.ubuntu.com/35759/
[05:05] <Ryan_Macy> HalinReno Im not sure of whats happening show me your xorg.conf and xinitrc
[05:06] <m4xw311> How do I know if my Intel video driver is installed correctly?
[05:06] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, i got it i just needed time
[05:06] <chronographer> damnit isn't a cus sword!
[05:06] <Blaqlight> chronographer, it is in here.
[05:06] <Overand> I have a xubuntu machine - I moved the HD from one ma chine to another
[05:06] <chronographer> !
[05:06] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, thats xorg.conf
[05:06] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:terminal : gedit /var/log/xorg.0.log         .....that was xorg.conf
[05:06] <jp> Somos tambien GNU/Linux www.codigolibre.org
[05:07] <Overand> I can't get dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to output anything useful - it only writes a keyboard configuration to the xorg, and puts no entries for video or monitor
[05:07] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:paste your /var/log/xorg.0.log
[05:07] <alsryth> Hi all, I have an almost working wireless card (intel 3945 abg) on a recently installed hardy.  After following some forums threads which solved the issue for others, my still isn't working properly.  Would any of you experts help me troubleshoot the issue?
[05:07] <cgs_bob> hello all.  can anyone tell me how to find out which package belongs to a particular file?
[05:07] <bullgard4> [GNOME]Add to Panel > Hardware Sensors Monitor installs the 'sensors-applet 2.2.1'. Why have here been chosen two such totally different names for the same thing?
[05:07] <Blaqlight> alsryth, did you upgrade to hardy 8.04?
[05:07] <alraune> !wireless|alsryth
[05:07] <Ryan_Macy> alsryth i have the same card whats up
[05:08] <legend2440> Overand: try   gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[05:08] <Kernel> hello all. my desktop uses a wireless card and my network uses wpa psk and the desktop needs to have a static ip...i can *NOT* get a static ip to work when the wireless network is encrypted. how can i do this?
[05:08] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel check this link out
[05:08] <newInternalHD> I have Ubuntu 7.10 installed and just installed a 320 GB internal HD (I placed it inside the machine properly)  how do I mount it so that it acts as a second HD consistently??
[05:08] <newInternalHD> ?
[05:08] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, there is no such file
[05:09] <VipOrX> turn DHCP off on the wireless router, and set static IPs in ubuntu
[05:09] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: from what ive gathered this seems to be a issue with ubuntu.
[05:09] <wols> newInternalHD: have you partitioned it?
[05:09] <Blaqlight> VipOrX, who are you speaking too?
[05:09] <Kernel> i used to use mandriva linux and it worked perfect.
[05:09] <Ryan_Macy> VipOrX he does not have to
[05:09] <newInternalHD> its str8 out of the box
[05:09] <VipOrX> to Kernel
[05:10] <chronographer> so it looks different now, still getting an error, trying nautilus again
[05:10] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel did you set the gateway and all that stuff
[05:10] <wols> Kernel: edit your interfaces file in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:10] <Kernel> i need both dhcp and static ip's
[05:10] <Kernel> wols: doesnt work
[05:10] <wols> !doesn't work | Kernel
[05:10] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: yea i set broadcast,gateway,ip....everything
[05:10] <chronographer> no love...
[05:10] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log                              , you can paste command into terminal...  paste that file
[05:10] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel:  any errors or just no connect
[05:10] <legend2440> Comrade-Badger: its     gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log      capital X on Xorg
[05:10] <jp> Somos tambien GNU/Linux www.codigolibre.org
[05:10] <Kernel> wols: i set a static ip and wireless will not connect. i remove the encryption and it works.
[05:10] <Blaqlight> chronographer, still nothing?
[05:11] <wols> Kernel: cause you didn't set up encryption in there as well
[05:11] <chronographer> no good
[05:11] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: it says it connects...but no traffic. i cant ping the gateway or anywebsites
[05:11] <Blaqlight> jp, plese do not do that here.
[05:11] <Kernel> wols: i did
[05:11] <jp> ok
[05:11] <chronographer> I got some install errors, dpkg couldn't install some things
[05:11] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel try http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html
[05:11] <wols> Kernel: pastebin that interfaces file then
[05:11] <chronographer> looks loike broken scripts
[05:11] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel have you tried to powercycle your router
[05:11] <wols> !errors | chronographer
[05:11] <Kernel> wols: ubuntu has really crappy support for wpa. it works decent with wep...but wep is a joke i crack wep networks in less then 5 mis
[05:11] <Blaqlight> chronographer, use pastebin to show the errors.
[05:12] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: its not the router. the router works perfect
[05:12]  * Comrade-Badger sigh
[05:12] <wols> Kernel: ubuntu has the same wpa support like any other distrl. wpa-supplicant
[05:12] <Overand> Kernel: It works OK here.
[05:12] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel sometimes you need to reboot a router
[05:12] <Kernel> wols: i cant. when i edit the interfaces file i lose connection.
[05:12] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel pull the power cord, plug it back in then try it
[05:12] <Kernel> wols: well the utility to set up the wireless networking is not the same as in mandriva. in mandriva it works right away
[05:13] <VipOrX> wow, Blaqlight and Ryan_Macy, yall need to let someone finish a sentence before jumping ppl... cause you are directing him to the same fix I was about to give before you interuppted
[05:13] <Overand> legend2440: that seemed to at least let me test configurations that looked good, but it doesn't appear to have written out to my /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[05:13] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: yea i know. im a nerd....i run 3rd part firmware on the router....the router is working fine
[05:13] <Kernel> *party
[05:13] <wols> Kernel: that is just an UI. it works in mandriva the same way as in ubuntu
[05:13] <VipOrX> but if it helps your ego, go for it
[05:13] <chronographer> just gonna reboot and hope for the best... ( I know it won't change anything...) ok pastebin: http://pastebin.com/m5eefcc9
[05:13] <Blaqlight> VipOrX, its not a competition man.
[05:13] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel not trying to have a pissing contest
[05:14] <VipOrX> then you should have kept yout mouth shut
[05:14] <Ryan_Macy> just giving ideas
[05:14] <Blaqlight> wow, VipOrX you really need to calm down.
[05:14] <Kernel> wols: in theory yea...but im telling you....it is not working in ubuntu. in ubuntu i set the ip,gateway,netmask,and broadcast. i then set the key for the wireless network...and lo and behold it doesnt work
[05:14] <newInternalHD> can someone plz assist me in setting up my new hard drive???
[05:14] <VipOrX> using linux 10 yrs, I wont be dammit reprimanded
[05:14] <mzuverink> Any Sony Vaio users out ther, specifically laptop users?
[05:14] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:easier : sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log               >gimme url
[05:15] <VipOrX> so go ahead and finish what I was gonna tell him
[05:15] <ds[de]> mzuverink: yes
[05:15] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel whats your encryption type? do you have it set right?
[05:15] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: i think u mis interpreted me. i appreciate your help. but i know the router is fine. sorry if i sounded like a jerk
[05:15] <wols> Kernel: check your logs then
[05:15] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: wpa2 psk-aes
[05:15] <Blaqlight> VipOrX, suggestion, go sit in a corner and chill man. sheesh.
[05:15] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, computers so slow it freezes up when i try to copy
[05:15] <Kernel> wols: nothing shows up in dmesg except the norm
[05:15] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿VipOrX you had already been kicked out earlier
[05:15] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:easier : sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log               >gimme url
[05:15] <Comrade-Badger> ReverendMaynard is on the culprit machine
[05:15] <wols> Kernel: there are more logs than that. e.g. syslog
[05:15] <VipOrX> no, but if I did I have hunnnnndreds of ways of getting back in
[05:15] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel I can't think of anything honestly, maybe rebot the network with something like /etc/network.d reboot
[05:16] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:what a pc are you running ?
[05:16] <VipOrX> just drop it
[05:16] <Ryan_Macy> i dont know the command for it in ubuntu though
[05:16] <mzuverink> ds[de], do you have sound problems, specifically the inability to turn off the speakers on the laptop when using headphones?
[05:16] <bullgard4> [GNOME] Add to Panel > Hardware Sensors Monitor installs the 'sensors-applet 2.2.1'. Why has GNOME here chosen two such totally different names for the same thing?
[05:16] <Kernel> wols: yea i know. i did not see anything in them
[05:16] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: from googling around this is a known issue in ubuntu
[05:16] <legend2440> Overand: what video card?
[05:17] <Overand> legend2440: it's an i845, and the 'test' in that app works fine
[05:17] <Kernel> wpa does not work right
[05:17] <wols> Kernel: since you won't answer questions for information from you, I guess you are on your own. goodbye
[05:17] <Overand> Kernel: i gues youre right, i guess all of us using WPA with no problem are lying.
[05:17] <Ryan_Macy> do you have wpa_supplicant?
[05:17] <mzuverink> ds[de], I plug in headphones and the speakers still broadcast sound, it is terribly annoying and makes the laptop unusable in public
[05:17] <Kernel> wols: umm ok. thanks for ya help anyways :|
[05:17] <legend2440> Overand: is there a problem with resolution or something?
[05:17] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: yea
[05:18] <ds[de]> mzuverink: I never checked with headphones, give me a second ;-)
[05:18] <Kernel> Overand: how exactly did you manager to get your wpa working with static ips? id love to hear
[05:18] <Comrade-Badger> ReverendMaynard, is my accomplice
[05:18] <scurker> I have been trying to get my nvidia drivers setup in gutsy with quite a few issues and was wondering if I could get some help.
[05:18] <wols> !ask | scurker
[05:18] <Kernel> i can get wpa working with dhcp no issues...but i need a static ip on this machine using wpa.
[05:18] <larson9999> trying to install the wacom tablet reminds me of the good old days trying to install my printer, gameport joystick and win modem
[05:19] <ds[de]> mzuverink: works fine
[05:19] <mzuverink> ds[de], what model?
[05:19] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, its an old gatway
[05:19] <wols> alraune: finally do what alraune told you if you want help
[05:19] <ds[de]> mzuverink: vgn-s5m
[05:19] <Overand> legend2440: it's actually working now.
[05:19] <mzuverink> ds I have a VGN-NR385E
[05:19] <Overand> legend2440: that app needed me to properly 'log off'  first, etc - i think i may haev just killed the x session the first time
[05:19] <legend2440> Overand: ok
[05:20] <chronographer> ﻿Blaqlight: samba error message http://pastebin.com/mc1e2e4e
[05:20] <Kernel> *sigh* i was hoping someone would actually know about this issue and a work around :(
[05:20] <Overand> legend2440: It's all set - but the issue was that I had a blank xorg conf, and yeah - it was using regular framebuffer i htink, and it was being nasty about letting change resolutions- but it's set now
[05:20] <scurker> It seems I'm to the point where the drivers show up as enabled and in use in the restricted driver manager, yet when I try to use "nvidia-settings" it tells me that the drivers are not enabled in my xorg.conf, even though its pointing to "nvidia" as the driver
[05:20] <mzuverink> ds[de], VGN-NR385E
[05:20] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, i assume you persuing ReverendMaynards link
[05:20] <ds[de]> mzuverink: looks fine, sadly I don't know anything about your issue :(
[05:20] <ds[de]> mzuverink: my sound worked OOTB and I didn't have to screw around with any cfgs
[05:21] <wype> Hey, I just have a quick question, is it possible to mount a dvd, well, making it seem like the dvd is named something else? Or will I have to reburn it lol
[05:21] <Kernel> i guess this is just one of the areas that linux is still lacking with
[05:21] <mzuverink> ds[de], its terribly annoying and nothing about it on google
[05:21] <Kernel> well not linux...ubuntu.
[05:21] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:easier : sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log            , ?Reverend? havent read
[05:22] <wols> Comrade-Badger: the reverend is a very quiet fellow. he doesn't say anything
[05:22] <mzuverink> ds[de], thanks, eventually someone out there will know the answer, I have faith, it is a very popular laptop
[05:22] <willfrand> hey
[05:22] <ds[de]> mzuverink: I hope so, sorry I can't help you here
[05:22] <Overand> here's a question - say i'm SSHed into a machine, and I want to start an X app that will run *on the machine* - as if a person sitting at it had clicked it.  Can I do that?
[05:22] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel I was about to say, it works in arch ;)
[05:22] <chronographer> can anyone help fix this ﻿samba error message http://pastebin.com/mc1e2e4e
[05:22] <Dr_willis_> wype,  named? what program is using the 'name' (label?) of a dvd disk?
[05:22] <wols> Overand: yes. ssh -X
[05:22] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: yea it worked perfect in mandriva linux also.
[05:23] <Blaqlight> chronographer, ok Im looking sorry
[05:23] <chronographer> at theremote machine Overand?
[05:23] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel just play with it, you'll fix it eventually
[05:23] <VipOrX> wols, he means make the X app open on the machine he is SSHed into, not remote X
[05:23] <wols> chronographer: is this mountpoint in your fstab?
[05:23] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: nah. i spent many hours fiddling about 2-3 weeks ago....with no luck
[05:24] <chronographer> no
[05:24] <ReverendMaynard> alraune: http://pastebin.com/f24ae68ae
[05:24] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel are you using it for a server or something?
[05:24] <chronographer> it doesn't nee dto be
[05:24] <Comrade-Badger> there he is alraune
[05:24] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: well i need ports to be open to this computer
[05:24] <wols> chronographer: then you lack various options in the mount command
[05:24] <chronographer> oh really?
[05:24] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: and i cant set the dhcp to assign by mac adress
[05:24] <wols> chronographer: you can do that too. set the DISPLAY env var properly
[05:24] <Ryan_Macy> kernel why not just open the ports on the router and forward the ports to your dhcp address
[05:25] <wols> actually using the X app then is kinda hard tho. and you have to deal with xauth of course
[05:25] <Ryan_Macy> all the new routers forward to hostnames and not dhcps
[05:25] <chronographer> does 'smbmount' do things differently?
[05:25] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: thats what i have been doing ...but that way will no longer work
[05:25] <Overand> legend2440: New weirdness - the xubungu login sccreen (GDM i believe) is displaying at the correct resolution, BUT it looks likwe it's 'trying' to display the wrong rez - the position of hte login window is too far down and right, and the logout buttons are 'off of hte bottom' - but its not a CRT 'position' thing
[05:25] <Ryan_Macy> Kernel idk man Gl with it
[05:25] <dmi3on> i cant fix grub, I get GRUB Loding stage1 Reading Errror or GRUB Reading Error, this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 doesnt help me :(
[05:26] <Kernel> Ryan_Macy: thanks anyways...
[05:26] <qr__> Overand: you can use screen to do it. open a screen session in a terminal on the remote machine (you need to physically go there and do this step) you can then ssh in and connect to the screen session. any x apps started from within the screen session will show up on the remote machine as long as you keep the original terminal window you started screen from open
[05:26] <wols> ReverendMaynard: what resolution do you want?
[05:26] <Overand> qr__: oh... good idea!
[05:26] <SNuxoll> qr__: no, screen automatically detaches when you close a terminal
[05:26] <dmi3on> i cant fix grub, I get GRUB Loding stage1 Reading Errror or GRUB Reading Error, this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 doesnt help me :(
[05:26] <ReverendMaynard> wols: at least 1024x768
[05:26] <qr__> SNuxoll: that's why I said don't close the terminal...
[05:27] <wype> ﻿Hey, I just have a quick question, is it possible to mount a DVD, well, making it seem like the DVD is named something else? Or will I have to re burn it
[05:27] <wols> ReverendMaynard: (II) TRIDENT(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (insufficient memory for mode)
[05:27] <SNuxoll> qr__: but the app will still be running if you close the terminal, BECAUSE screen detaches
[05:27] <Kernel> Overand: so do you actually know how to set up wpa with a static ip?
[05:27] <wols> SNuxoll: no
[05:27] <Kernel> or where you actually lying ;-o....im just playing around here
[05:27] <qr__> SNuxoll: you need the screen session to be owned by a terminal that is owned by the local xserver in order to be able to run x applications on the remote machine through it
[05:27] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:easier : the log is saying the video card has too less memory for a 1024X768 resolution, max vert frequenz is 70Hz, would be enough
[05:28] <Blaqlight> chronographer, your problem is beyond my knowledge, sorry :(
[05:28] <usamahashimi> APT is giving this error: "The package ooobasis3.0-onlineupdate needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it"
[05:28] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, really lol! so its impossible to get that res?
[05:28] <SNuxoll> qr__: ah, would make sense, I've never used screen with X apps
[05:28] <SNuxoll> qr__: no point in it...
[05:28] <chronographer> ok. np Blaqlight, thanks anyway
[05:28] <wols> ReverendMaynard: how much memory on the trident card?
[05:28] <chronographer> smbmount
[05:28] <chronographer> oops
[05:28] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, he was running it in windows at 1024x768
[05:28] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:easier : if you 've chosen the right driver for the card, you can give it a try, the doesn't have to be right
[05:28] <qr__> SNuxoll: except in the situation which I just described, in which case it is invaluable.
[05:28] <dmi3on> i cant fix grub, I get GRUB Loding stage1 Reading Errror or GRUB Reading Error, this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 doesnt help me :(
[05:29] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:easier : if you 've chosen the right driver for the card, you can give it a try, the log doesn't have to be right
[05:29] <SNuxoll> qr__: eh, I just use VNC
[05:29] <SNuxoll> qr__: or FreeNX
[05:29] <ReverendMaynard> wols: it was just something i found in a box in the attic. all i know is that its a standard vga card so im guessing at least 8mb
[05:29] <alraune> dmi3on: see #grub also
[05:29] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, well thats the next question theres nothing to chose in xserver-xorg
[05:29] <Blaqlight> dmi3on, have you tried to reinstall grub?
[05:29] <qr__> SNuxoll: what about running media? VNC doesn't really work with fullscreen video.
[05:29] <SNuxoll> qr__: heh, this is true
[05:29] <wols> ReverendMaynard: a standard vga card has 256kB and it can't do 1024x768...
[05:30] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:did you backup your xorg,conf ?
[05:30] <wols> Comrade-Badger: you'd have to edit xorg.conf manually
[05:30] <ReverendMaynard> wols: well i find it funny that it can go 1024x768 in windows though....
[05:30] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, i didnt ReverendMaynard is on the machine speak with him im just an intermediary
[05:30] <alraune> wols: is waht i know, so probably wrong trident-driver (what I don't know)
[05:30] <Comrade-Badger> wols i know , buth theres nothing in there about it
[05:31] <wols> ReverendMaynard: ok, that means it has enough memory, 2MB or more. it's entirely possible that X doesn't see the full memory of the card properly for example
[05:31] <Ryan_Macy> alraune ubuntu uses the old trident driver i think
[05:31] <wols> or that it can only do it in 8 or 16 but not 24/32 bit which is default for X
[05:31] <wols> Comrade-Badger: yes, that's why YOU have to write it in there :)
[05:32] <alraune> ReverendMaynard:sudo  cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[05:32] <Comrade-Badger> wol ok ReverendMaynard has it in paste bin wheres the line go?
[05:32] <alraune> ReverendMaynard:have you got a live cd handy ?
[05:32] <wols> alraune: just tell me what trident drivers are there except the one he's using?
[05:32] <ReverendMaynard> wols: true, it goes to low color settings in windows in order for 1024 to work
[05:32] <alraune> wols:  what I don't know...
[05:33] <ReverendMaynard> alraune: yeah i do
[05:33] <legend2440> Overand: not sure but maybe section called   GDM uses a different Resolution than my Desktop  will help    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#GDM%20uses%20a%20different%20Resolution%20than%20my%20Desktop
[05:33] <chronographer> Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing.  I got this natilus error, can I fix it?
[05:33] <alraune> ReverendMaynard:backed up xorg.conf ?
[05:33] <ReverendMaynard> let me do that quick alraune
[05:33] <Blaqlight> chronographer, I get that all the time, its not affecting my system any.
[05:34] <Blaqlight> chronographer, including my samba shares..
[05:34] <chronographer> its a pain...
[05:34] <Ryan_Macy> chronographer this is a guess but is your account in the correct groups?
[05:34] <ReverendMaynard> alraune: ok backed up
[05:35] <chronographer> well its all default so I guess so
[05:35] <alraune> ReverendMaynard:few minutes getting the new one, will look it up now
[05:35] <Blaqlight> chronographer, goto System > Admininstration > users and groups and see what your user belongs too.
[05:36] <chronographer> alex adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin admin mythtv sambashare
[05:36] <Ryan_Macy> chronographer system>admin>users and groups> unlock and add your user to the correct group
[05:36] <Blaqlight> Ryan_Macy, it seems he's in all the right groups though..
[05:36] <chronographer> which group? ( i am on xfce, i need command line tools i think!)
[05:37] <Ryan_Macy> hmm
[05:37] <ice--man> hello
[05:37] <ice--man> how can i change my terminal font size on ==> (Ctrl+Alt+F1)
[05:38] <Cdilling> has anyone used Kismet?
[05:38] <Ryan_Macy> chronographer im not too sure, maybe it's because you're using natilus on xfce but I doubt it, does thunar work fine?
[05:38] <Blaqlight> nautilus will work in xfce just fine if its installed, you should be using thunar though..
[05:38] <Ryan_Macy> Are you load the gnome helpers? it should be under session in the control menu
[05:38] <Ryan_Macy> loading*
[05:39] <Cdilling> anyone ever used kismet?
[05:39] <ice--man> ﻿how can i change my terminal font size on ==> (Ctrl+Alt+F1)?  now idea? :-?
[05:39] <chronographer> maybe I'l just reinstall gnome again, that might fix it
[05:40] <Blaqlight> ice--man, Im not sure you can change the font size within the framebuffer...
[05:40] <daikee> i recently installed some printer drivers.  is there a way to get back to original drivers as if I did a fresh install of ubuntu 8.04?
[05:40] <chronographer> thunar doesn't seem to have network folders tools
[05:40] <ice--man> hum, i don't know
[05:41] <daikee> anybody?
[05:41] <Flynsarmy> I just got an ide to sata converter. Are you able to plug IDE connectors into EIDE slots?
[05:41] <Blaqlight> chronographer, if your going to do that  check out ubottu's PM
[05:41] <Blaqlight> !puregnome | chronographer
[05:42] <Blaqlight> oops
[05:42] <legend2440> ice--man: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122936
[05:42] <Flynsarmy> Or is there a better channel i could ask this question?
[05:43] <chronographer> i dont know flyn
[05:43] <Blaqlight> legend2440, does that mean you can?
[05:44] <ice--man> legend2440: tnx :)
[05:44] <legend2440> Blaqlight: yes i think so  put    vga=791 in grub like this     kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/hda6 ro quiet splash vga=771
[05:44] <chronographer> gonna do a reinstall! try mythbuntu again! Thanks for your help... have a good one
[05:44] <Cdilling> has anyone used kismet with ubuntu
[05:45] <legend2440> Blaqlight: yes i think so  put    vga=771 in grub like this     kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/hda6 ro quiet splash vga=771
[05:45] <Blaqlight> ahh ok
[05:45] <Blaqlight> see Im not the only one that thought otherwise :D
[05:46] <bitsbam> lo there all
[05:47] <bitsbam> i have some nfs shares that other computers on the lan mount at boot from fstab, now these have file managers that sometimes hang if one of the dirves cannot be accessed
[05:47] <bitsbam> is there a way to mount and unmount nfs shares on the fly?
[05:48] <ReverendMaynard> where did alraune go?
[05:48] <alraune> ReverendMaynard:few minutes getting the new one, will look it up now :http://pastebin.com/m7dc4ba5d
[05:49] <Flynsarmy> anyone know if EIDE slots are compatable with IDE cables?
[05:49] <ForTiLLiaN> yes, they are
[05:49] <alraune> ReverendMaynard:sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf                delete the old, put in pastebin , save n close, restart x
[05:50] <bullgard4> [GNOME] Add to Panel > Hardware Sensors Monitor installiert 'sensors-applet 2.2.1'. Warum hat GNOME hier 2 total verschiedene Namen  für dieselbe Sache gewählt?
[05:50] <bullgard4> [GNOME] Add to Panel > Hardware Sensors Monitor installs the 'sensors-applet 2.2.1'. Why has GNOME here chosen two such totally different names for the same thing?
[05:50] <Flynsarmy> ForTiLLiaN, Both 40pins right? (EIDE slots and ide connector)
[05:50] <ForTiLLiaN> yep yep
[05:50] <Flynsarmy> ForTiLLiaN, Thanks
[05:50] <ForTiLLiaN> np
[05:50] <grumpy> I want a wireless battery operated printer to take with me to print out information for customers. Is there such a thing for Ubuntu?
[05:50] <Blaqlight> bullgard4, one is the gui the other is the actuall gnome panel applet.
[05:50] <yoyoman37> hello.  i dl ubuntu 8.04.1 and boot and it takes too much screen (only part of desktop fits on my monitor)
[05:51] <Dr_willis_> grumpy,  why would that be 'ubuntu' specific? there are battery powered printers.
[05:51] <Dr_willis_> grumpy,  most are photo printers from what ive seen however. Not for docs.
[05:51] <grumpy> dr_willis_, ubuntu specific because i want to be sure it is fully supported by ubuntu
[05:51] <yoyoman37> when I try to adjust resolution, my display starts flipping badly.  Is there a way at boot to prevent it from using any video drivers other than some standard driver?
[05:51] <Dr_willis_> grumpy,  and the ones i saw used that pict-bridge/Bluetooth stuff.. again. these were Photo printers.
[05:52] <alraune> yoyoman37: sudo apt-get install displayconfig-gtk , the run it, choose your monitor, change resolution
[05:52] <Smegzor> I have a network card that is detected, but I get no lights and no network.  lspci sees it as a  Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10) and it is listed by ifconfig.  How can I make it work in Ubuntu?
[05:52] <grumpy> dr_willis, if the picture ones can handle black and white too then I'm ok with them.
[05:52] <alraune> yoyoman37: sudo apt-get install displayconfig-gtk , then run it, choose your monitor, change resolution
[05:52] <Dr_willis_> grumpy,  find a printer ya like  i guess. check cups.org and the ubuntu forums to see how well supported it  is i guess.
[05:52] <ReverendMaynard> alraune: just put it on, restarting x now
[05:52] <Dr_willis_> grumpy,  i recall years ago a Laptop With a Printer Built in. :)
[05:53] <alraune> ReverendMaynard:/etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:53] <grumpy> dr_willis_, I don't trust those lists of supported printers. I know they are full of it because i've got printers that are on the fully supported list that are not. The lists are just marketing hype unfortunately.
[05:53] <alraune> ReverendMaynard:sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:53] <bobertdos> Smegzor: Has the card worked previously?
[05:53] <Smegzor> never
[05:53] <alraune> Smezgor: ifup eth0
[05:54] <Blaqlight> Dr_willis_, yah me too, it was a piece of junk. and nobody bought it.
[05:54] <bobertdos> Smegzor: and by that I mean, in Windows?
[05:54] <grumpy> dr_willis_ I really want to see a review of a laptop printer, battery operated, by an ubuntu magazine
[05:54] <Dr_willis_> grumpy,  guess best thing to do then is make sure whever ya get the printer from has a good return policy.
[05:54] <Smegzor> it runs great in XP
[05:54] <bullgard4> Blaqlight: What do you mean by "the GUI" here? (I know the term 'GUI' as a very general word.)
[05:55] <Dr_willis_> grumpy,  ive only seen like 2 or 3 battery piowered printers and they were mainly for 3x5 photos and so forth. But ive not looked lately
[05:55] <alraune> Smezgor: ifup eth0   ,install network applet for a GUI
[05:55] <Blaqlight> hardware sensors is in the gnome menus... the applet is in the panel.
[05:55] <bobertdos> Smegzor: okay then.........You said it was listed under ifconfig, so do you get an IP address or not?
[05:55] <Smegzor> alraune: its eth1.  i'm using my on board lan at the moment which has other problems.
[05:55] <Blaqlight> hence both separate.
[05:55] <alraune> GUI= graphical user Interface
[05:55] <grumpy> dr_willis_ Actually I've already looked at costco thinking I'd try their printers and possibly return them. Unfortunately they have no battery powered laptops.
[05:55] <alraune> Smezgor: ifup eth1   ,install network applet for a GUI
[05:56] <Dr_willis_> GUI = what happens to your candy bar in the sun.
[05:56] <Smegzor> alraune: running that command on eth1, it says ignoring unknown interface
[05:56] <alraune> lol
[05:56] <slightglitch> Okay, need some help with this one as I've never seen it so anything would be appreciated- http://pastebin.com/m61bbefb4
[05:56] <Blaqlight> Dr_willis_, indeed
[05:56] <Smegzor> bobertdos: I can give it an ip address, I just can't get any traffic through it
[05:57] <Cdilling> so i am new to XChat is there a different room to ask about kismet?
[05:57] <Cdilling> just need to figure out how to config it..
[05:57] <Blaqlight> Cdilling, right click in this window > window > channel list.
[05:58] <alraune> Cdilling: irc related #freenode is nice
[05:58] <Smegzor> i would just use my onboard gigabit lan, but for some reason it slows down to <5k/sec after so many hours use.
[05:58] <Smegzor> rebooting fixes it, but thats the windows way :P
[05:58] <alraune> Cdilling:       /list                      in xchat's writers bar
[05:59] <Blaqlight> alraune, that would make xchat lag so bad and is quite usless, use the suggestion I gave... it presents it in a GUI.
[05:59] <marx2k> k9copy++
[05:59] <alraune> ...like candy
[06:00] <Blaqlight> alraune, type /list into xchats bar, you'll see what I mean :P
[06:00] <Smegzor> back in a bit.  I'm going to try google again and swap networks.  it'll knock me off the net until I swap back :(
[06:01] <Blaqlight> also channel list in xchat allows you to search and other nice things.
[06:01] <Cybane> Anyone know the name of the Window Manager written in Ruby?
[06:02] <Blaqlight> well either way, Im outtie like corduroys.
[06:02] <Ryan_Macy> Kahakai Window Manager
[06:02] <Ryan_Macy> Cybane
[06:03] <alraune> ﻿Blaqlight: am pidgin infected
[06:03] <Cybane> I thought it started with a S
[06:04] <alraune> ﻿ ﻿Blaqlight:could you pm ﻿ Cdilling to tell how to connect to ﻿ #kismet on irc.freenode.net in xchat ?
[06:05] <Gyro54> Can anyone help with a broken upgrade to 8.04
[06:06] <alraune> ReverendMaynard: couldn't open Display ?? stars and stripes on the screen ? live cd...
[06:06] <backenfutter> Gyro54, what broke?
[06:06] <Dr_Willis_> alraune,  try /join #CHANNELNAME
[06:06] <Gyro54> I had a lock up when the upgrade was nearly finished and it now will not start with the GUI
[06:06] <Dr_Willis_> alraune,  you are on freenode now. :)
[06:06] <Gyro54> I can get to the terminal
[06:06] <backenfutter> Gyro54, have you tried finishing the upgrde from tty1?
[06:06] <Bagualas> hello! I upgraded Flash, to version 10, when I open some sites it closes firefox, helpppp please
[06:07] <alraune> ﻿Dr_Willis_: prob is its not on ubuntu.com, so on another server
[06:07] <Gyro54> backenfutter: How can I do that
[06:07] <Dr_Willis_> alraune,  if its on freenode. it should be accessable from any of the 'freenode' servers.
[06:08] <backenfutter> well, when in tty1 (STRG+ALT+F1) just do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:08] <Gyro54> backenfutter: I will give it a try. Thanks
[06:08] <backenfutter> Gyro54, np
[06:09] <nickrud> Gyro54 also do sudo apt-get -f install , then a second dist-upgrade
[06:09] <kiz0ph> how can i get the mp4 driver on ubuntu??
[06:10] <Gyro54> nickrud: Thanks
[06:10] <Dr_Willis_> mp4 driver? You mean codec?
[06:10] <Burky> yay
[06:10] <Burky> i always wanted to find an ubuntu chat
[06:10] <Gyro54> This is the best place for info.  You guys are great.
[06:11] <nickrud> Burky keep looking ;)
[06:11] <LSD|Ninja> Burky: jump into #ubuntu-offtopic then :P
[06:11] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Smegzor:  can you restart the interface with > sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart  < and avoid having to reboot ?
[06:11] <Druui> you dont have to reboot when restart networking
[06:11] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Smegzor:  wow, scroll was way back there ^^
[06:11] <Druui> it hink
[06:11] <Druui> i think rather
[06:11] <nickrud> nearly all the time
[06:12] <alraune> ReverendMaynard: ??
[06:12] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:??
[06:13] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, yex?
[06:13] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, hes rebooting
[06:13] <Burky> is there a basic irc help channel?
[06:13] <Scorp_> any1 out there who remembers helping me with LinkSys!! I kinda cracked the prob.
[06:14] <Scorp_> wanted to share How !!!
[06:14] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:witing for reverend, wondering (but he has a live cd, too) ;where are you located ?
[06:14] <backenfutter> Burky, epends what you need help on..
[06:14] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Scorp_: what was the initial issue ?
[06:14] <Burky> basic irc commands in general
[06:14] <Comrade-Badger> located like geographically?
[06:14] <Burky> i haven been on the irc for awhile i forgot all the commands
[06:14] <backenfutter> Burky, check freenode.net
[06:14] <Scorp_> DozedOnLinux: The router page wasnt opening on ubuntu.. Was working everywhere else..
[06:14] <Burky> eh worth a shot
[06:14] <Burky> thanks
[06:14] <Drezard> how do i set up what my dns servers are on linux?
[06:14] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, upstate new york USA
[06:14] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Scorp_: the web interface for your router ?
[06:14] <kiz0ph> I connect my mp4 to the computer. But it doesn't work.
[06:15] <visf> hi anybody know where is a good place to learn openoffice or is there a good book to recommend?
[06:15] <LSD|Ninja> Drezard: In the network panel under System -> Administration
[06:15] <DozedOnLinux> AllEars
[06:15] <Scorp_> DozedOnLinux: yeah... 192.168.1.1 thing... it was not being accessed by ubuntu initially... was working with Vista, Xp and even OpenSUSE
[06:15] <Druui> 192.168.1.1 is your router right?
[06:16] <LogicalDash> F-spot opens every time I insert an SD-card. How do I make it stop doing that?
[06:16] <Drezard> im using ubuntu server????
[06:16] <Druui> there is a way
[06:16] <Druui> places->computer
[06:16] <CydeWeys> What's the name of the program to download images off a digital camera with?
[06:16] <Drezard> so text-based cli only.... setting up what my dns servers are :P
[06:16] <Comrade-Badger> alraune,  you?
[06:16] <LogicalDash> CydeWeys: F-Spot
[06:16] <Druui> then go to edit->perefence. there may be option there to stop f-spot doing
[06:16] <ReverendMaynard> alraune: im here, it works in 800x600 which is kinda tollerable
[06:16] <Scorp_> DozedOnLinux: Actually, to be true, its only a half way breakthrough.. the page is loading now, using Konqueror.. But not rendering perfectly...
[06:17] <nickrud> LogicalDash prefs in the file manager, check the media tab
[06:17] <Jordan_U> LogicalDash: System -> Preferences -> Removable Devices IIRC
[06:17] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, looks like germany
[06:17] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:so even in the bin theres better hardware, i assume... youre not kinda hunter&collecter ?|yep germ
[06:17] <LogicalDash> Jordan_U, thanks, that seems to be it
[06:17] <Druui> two way, jordan. :)
[06:17] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Scorp_: progress is good
[06:17] <Druui> i guess i use places->computer->edit->preference->media.
[06:18] <Scorp_> DozedOnLinux: yeah.. true..!!
[06:18] <Druui> long way. heh
[06:18] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, au contrare theres got to be more but oddly enough this is the only one with a svideo out
[06:18] <CydeWeys> LogicalDash: Isn't there another one?  F-Spot doesn't seem to have an option to remove images automatically post-import?
[06:18] <CydeWeys> I recall using one that did that, I just don't remember the name.
[06:18] <CydeWeys> Maybe it's a KDE program?
[06:18] <alraune> ReverendMaynard: good to hear not crashed, you could(do another backup before) experiment with the default depth for higer res, but 256 colours...
[06:19] <LogicalDash> CydeWeys: Well, if you go into Synaptic, click Search, and choose to search through Description and Name, you'll probably find something
[06:19] <Comrade-Badger> alraune, hes back
[06:19] <alraune> Comrade-Badger:were talking...
[06:19] <Comrade-Badger> ah
[06:19] <Burky> wtf why is my e-mail not valid
[06:19] <Comrade-Badger> back to murk lore
[06:19] <CydeWeys> LogicalDash: Ahah, Digikam is what I was thinking of.  It's a very good program.
[06:20] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Burky: email ? not valid ? you trying to register a name here?
[06:20] <Burky> yes
[06:20] <grumpy> HP is lame: "HP does not provide telephone support for Linux printing." and if you want a driver they tell you to visit a non hp website...
[06:20] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Burky: did you read the email they sent you ?
[06:21] <Burky> um it sent me an e-mail
[06:21] <LogicalDash> grumpy: doesn't Ubuntu come with HP drivers preinstalled?
[06:21] <Burky> it told me my e-mail wasnt valid
[06:21] <ReverendMaynard> alraune: how do i change the color depth in ubuntu? is it in a menu or is it done by hand in vi or a standard editor?
[06:21] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Burky: well there is instrictions on what you need to do to activate it
[06:21] <Burky> grr dont i just need the /msg nickserv register <your-password> <your-email>  command?
[06:22] <grumpy> LogicalDash, Possibly, I don't know. I'm trying to find a printer and heard HP was great. However they seem to think Linux is not worth handling on their website or phone support.
[06:22] <alraune> ReverendMaynard: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf   ﻿ sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup2
[06:22] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Burky: easiest way to put it, > /msg NickServ help
[06:22] <DozedOnLinux> !register
[06:22] <alraune> ReverendMaynard: sudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf   ﻿
[06:22] <Burky> thanks
[06:22] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Burky: if you need help other than that, there is a channel here that has Freenode staff, i cant remember which though
[06:23] <alraune> ReverendMaynard: whenever x crashes at bootup,  you can cp it back with the live cd
[06:23] <Burky> isnt there a help channel with a bunch of bots that know the codes?
[06:23] <Burky> *commands
[06:23] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Burky: i can message you a channel, but i am not sure it is correct
[06:23] <alraune> !brain
[06:23] <Burky> do it
[06:24] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿alraune: what channel can Burky go to where Mod/Ops sit ? or can help him with freenode reg and activation
[06:24] <Burky> got it nvm
[06:24] <Burky> haha
[06:25] <Burky> thanks
[06:25] <ReverendMaynard> alraune: backed up
[06:25] <DozedOnLinux> ok
[06:25] <alraune> rtfm, smile
[06:26] <alraune> ReverendMaynard: sudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf   ﻿
[06:26] <zh> join #ubuntu-cn
[06:26] <oghmarela> i have a question about mksquashfs on alive usb,can anyone help
[06:26] <ReverendMaynard> alraune: got it
[06:26] <alraune> ReverendMaynard: look for section screen,  ut the two 16  to 8
[06:26] <alraune> put
[06:27] <ReverendMaynard> alraune: got it
[06:27] <alraune> ReverendMaynard: save, close  , /etc/init.d/gdm restart (maybe write down cp- command for live before)
[06:27] <xelapond> Hey everyone
[06:27] <xelapond> apt is messing up
[06:28] <xelapond> I tried to install emacs and it threw some errors
[06:28] <qinjuehang> ﻿xelapond: What were the erorrs?
[06:28] <xelapond> and now any time I try and install a program it tries to install emacs
[06:28] <xelapond> Byte Compilation failed
[06:28] <DozedOnLinux> hate that. go to close IM, same time someone messages you and end up closing Ubuntu
[06:28] <xelapond> I compiled emacs, so that is irrelevent
[06:29] <xelapond> but I need fireof and zsh, but it tried to isntall emacs and fails
[06:29] <Detrix> !dialup
[06:29] <juannicolas> Hi, can someone give me an ide on how to do a internet fail over with 2 isp ?
[06:29] <creeed> u
[06:29] <LogicalDash> juannicolas, what are you talking about?
[06:29] <alraune> ﻿﻿ xelapond: sudo apt-get remove emacs && sudo apt-get clean
[06:29] <xelapond> alraune: ok, Ill try that
[06:30] <juannicolas> I need a machine who can work as a internet route and also will have 2 ISP and do a failover, if one isp is down the machine will use the other gateway and viceversa
[06:30] <Quenyar> Video Display problems with 8.04 LTS on antideluvian x86 box with Matrox video card. When I scroll in the browser window, this happens: http://goomba.com/www2/hwm/Screenshot.png - this was the Ubuntu welcome screen. I have tried several different resolutions and other video settings, but it just doesn't paint the screen properly. HELP
[06:30] <oghmarela> bye all
[06:31] <xelapond> alraune: same errors
[06:31] <juannicolas> LogicalDash  did you read me?
[06:32] <LogicalDash> juannicolas: I read you, I'm sorry but I can't help
[06:32] <juannicolas> ok thx
[06:32] <xelapond> alraune: any ideas?
[06:32] <juannicolas> !failover
[06:32] <johnny_> Hello guys, I have a question. Do all you Ubuntu users think it's really necessary to have a firewall under Ubuntu?
[06:32] <xelapond> 11111\
[06:33] <xelapond> sry, cat on keyboard
[06:33] <alraune> ﻿﻿ xelapond: sudo apt-get remove --purge emacs                   , whatch up if apt tells you will remove half of your software (better cancel than)
[06:33] <Quenyar> johnny - if you don't have a firewall, you;re inviting someone to hack your system and make it part of their bot net
[06:34] <iratsu> hmm i deleted a partition but it still shows up in /dev... is there some way i can "update" /dev?
[06:34] <DozedOnLinux> !firewall
[06:34] <alraune> johnny_:yup
[06:34] <DozedOnLinux> !virus | ﻿johnny_
[06:34] <xelapond> alraune: same errors
[06:34] <johnny_> Yeah I understand that, but I thought Linux was extremely secure, far more than any other operating system?
[06:34] <Josh_1203> Can anyone help me share files from Windows to Ubuntu?
[06:34] <xelapond> alraune: it tries to byte compile the addon packages
[06:35] <DozedOnLinux> !smb
[06:35] <LogicalDash> johnny_: Linux sure is secure, but if you use it to send data through an insecure route, then your data is insecure
[06:35] <Josh_1203> k thanks
[06:35] <alraune> johnny_:if you diary is written on waterproof paper, you wouldn't have open, or ?  its easy to tackle even a secure open system, e.g. crash it
[06:35] <DozedOnLinux> josh thank Ubottu :P
[06:36] <Quenyar> johnny, lots of built in security, makes it more of a challenger than Windows, but some people enjoy a challenge - any system can be hacked.  And because your Linux system is more capable, it is a bigger prize.
[06:36] <slightglitch> Has anyone seen this error by chance, and can you tell me what might cause it? http://pastebin.com/m61bbefb4
[06:37] <johnny_> Quenyar: So I'm guessing your suggesting I keep Firestarter?
[06:37] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Quenyar: no system in the world is 100% secure, unless you never use it, even then the ants will take i over and make happy times
[06:37] <bluekb> Hi.  I just got a bluetooth headset; I am having trouble figuring how to get sound out of it though (music, anything).  I read http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki/HOWTO/AudioDevices and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothAudio and can't find the device via hcitool.   `hcitool scan` returns "Device is not available: No such device"
[06:38] <Quenyar> firewall is like seatbelt, won't prevent the inevitable, but I wear my seatbelt anyway
[06:38] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿bluekb: do youhappen to have a laptop ?
[06:38] <bluekb> DozedOnLinux, not yet.  I am trying this on my desktop.
[06:38] <bluekb> DozedOnLinux, This is a usb bluetooth dongle
[06:38] <alraune> xelapond:was it a tarball or a deb from repo ?
[06:39] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿bluekb: let me see if i can recall the issue
[06:39] <xelapond> alraune: I ran sudo apt-get install emacs
[06:39] <Rolcol> Quick question: if you were to use dd to fill up a partition (hda1) with zeros, would it still be formatted?
[06:39] <Josh_1203> Does anyone know if my main processor is Windows but I'm using Ubuntu as a virtual machine if Samba will work, and if so where I should download Samba to?
[06:39] <alraune> xelapond:try this again ?
[06:39] <eje1> Rolcol: depends how you do it, if you fill up a file yes, if you write to raw partition, no
[06:39] <jemtv> can anyone help my with mythbuntu
[06:39] <xelapond> alraune: try what again?
[06:39] <eje1> Josh_1203: !samba
[06:40] <johnny_> Quenyar: That's a good way to look at it. Thanks for the info :)
[06:40] <Josh_1203> @samba
[06:40] <DozedOnLinux> bluekb: you just install it now ? or have you had it for a while ?
[06:40] <Josh_1203> !sama
[06:40] <Josh_1203> !samba
[06:40] <eje1> !samba | Josh_1203
[06:40] <alraune> xelapond:sudo apt-get install emacs
[06:40] <Rolcol> eje1: would the paritition still exist without being formatted though?
[06:40] <xelapond> alraune: ok, just a sec
[06:40] <Quenyar> still trying to figure out how to fix the screen display problem I am having - doesn't scroll properly - when you scroll down, say, a browser window, it paints the screen in pieces all over the place, any suggestions?
[06:40] <Rolcol> *partition
[06:40] <eje1> Rolcol: not if you overwrite partition table
[06:40] <eje1> Rolcol: but... this is not perfect way to destroy data if that is what you want
[06:40] <Rolcol> I don't mean the whole disk, sda.  I mean a partition like sda2
[06:41] <DozedOnLinux> Rolcol, cause you never formatted it. a partition is a set size, ready for formatting, not that it is active or can be used till it is formatted for what it will be used for
[06:41] <xelapond> alraune: same errors
[06:41] <eje1> Rolcol: dd if=/dev/zero of /dev/sda2 should preserve partition while filling it with zeroes
[06:41] <alraune> Quenyar: what graphics card ?
[06:41] <DozedOnLinux> good one eje1
[06:41] <eje1> missed and = there
[06:41] <eje1> an
[06:42] <alraune> xelapond:no missing dependencies/Pakets ? saw !compile ?
[06:42] <alraune> !compile
[06:42] <Detrix> whats the risk of repartioning a window harddrive?
[06:42] <linuxdominator> Quenyar: you could try disabling compiz...
[06:42] <Rolcol> eje1: so the partition itself exists but it would be unformatted, yes?
[06:42] <Quenyar> alraune graphics card is a real dinosaur - a Matrix VGA card
[06:42] <linuxdominator> Detrix: you will lose all data
[06:42] <linuxdominator> Rolcol: yes
[06:42] <DozedOnLinux> Detrixl the data that is on it will be lost
[06:43] <linuxdominator> Rolcol: if you do the command i said
[06:43] <Quenyar> linuxdominator OK, I'll bit, what is it and how would I disable it?
[06:43]  * linuxdominator = eje1
[06:43] <xelapond> alraune: it says its a bug in emacs
[06:43] <Jason2gs> Hi guys. Can someone tell me if there's a way to set a blank user/root password?
[06:43] <Detrix> I thought there were programs that could repartion a drive not lose the data
[06:43] <xelapond> alraune: but I compiled emacs myself without apt
[06:43] <Jason2gs> I'm the only one that uses this computer, so there's simply no need to have it password protected.
[06:43] <linuxdominator> Quenyar: system>prefs>appearance>desktop effects>none
[06:43] <DozedOnLinux> jason2gs by default the admin is blank :P
[06:43] <xelapond> can I tell it to shutup about emacs and install zsh and firefox?
[06:43] <Rolcol> Another question, is swap actually formated as anything special?  Can I just fill it up with zeros to erase its contents but still have it function?
[06:43] <linuxdominator> Detrix: there are, what do u want to do
[06:43] <DozedOnLinux> oh, did i say that ? oops
[06:43] <Quenyar> Jason2gs why on earth would you want to do that?
[06:44] <linuxdominator> Rolcol: no, you need to mkswap /dev/sdaX
[06:44] <Rolcol> Alright.  Thanks linuxdominator
[06:44] <Detrix> I want to install Utuntu on my laptop/window machine.
[06:44] <DozedOnLinux> Rolcol: you can view all that in gparted or Partition Editor
[06:44] <linuxdominator> Detrix: the installer should walk you through it and resize your windows partition without losing anything
[06:44] <linuxdominator> !partitions
[06:44] <zcat[1]> Jason2gs: for the login settings you can have it automatically log in your user
[06:44] <randal> Hey does anyone know how to find if you are useing 32bit or 64 bit plz help
[06:45] <randal> Hey does anyone know how to find if you are useing 32bit or 64 bit plz help
[06:45] <randal> Hey does anyone know how to find if you are useing 32bit or 64 bit plz help
[06:45] <linuxdominator> randal: lsb_release -a
[06:45] <linuxdominator> hmm no
[06:45] <Quenyar> linuxdominator - compiz does what? How do I disable it?  If it breaks it worse, how do I put it back?
[06:45] <Detrix> I just wanted to be certain that the partioner that comes with ubunto would not hurt the windows stuff
[06:45] <linuxdominator> randal: uname -a look for x86_64 for 64bit
[06:46] <alraune> !matrox>Quenyar
[06:46] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿randal:  lsb_release -a
[06:46] <linuxdominator> Quenyar: i told you how to disable it, it is desktop effects
[06:46] <linuxdominator> DozedOnLinux: check it, it does not say
[06:46] <alraune> Quenyar:which matrox ?
[06:46] <Rolcol> linuxdominator: I see what you mean.  I just created an empty file and ran mkswap on it.
[06:46] <DozedOnLinux> uname -a ?
[06:46] <linuxdominator> yup
[06:46] <Jason2gs> DozedOnLinux, meh :p When I first installed, I set the root password. Now I don't know how to unset it. Quenyar, what do you mean? I built this computer, I'm the only one that uses this computer, so I have no need for a password. It just gets in the way :p zcat[1], thank you =] I'll look at how to do that. But still, is there a way to set the root password blank?
[06:46] <smokewon> Hey does anyone know a guide for turning folders into ISO's with ubuntu???
[06:46] <randal> DozedOnLinux: i 1686 is that 64 bit
[06:47] <Rolcol> smokewon: i think mkisofs
[06:47] <violet> love u
[06:47] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿linuxdominator: i was preparing that one just as you said it, needed to paste his name
[06:47] <randal> Is i1686 64 bit
[06:47] <randal> Is i1686 64 bit
[06:47] <randal> Is i1686 64 bit
[06:47] <randal> Is i1686 64 bit
[06:47] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿linuxdominator:  well that answers a question for me, and i didnt even have to ask it ;)
[06:47] <smokewon> i tried mkisofs, done nothing for me, sigh
[06:47] <Rolcol> I think you need to install it, smokewon
[06:47] <smokewon> i did
[06:47] <linuxdominator> !repeat | randal
[06:47] <smokewon> sudo apt-get install mkisofs
[06:48] <randal> Is i1686 64 bit
[06:48] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿linuxdominator:  this box not 64 bit, but my other is, i still put 32 on that one though
[06:48] <bizinichi> sup
[06:48] <Detrix> but before I do, I need to know how the get Ubuntu to dial out. I have set up the connection but it does not actually dial out. How do I get Ubuntu to actually dial.?
[06:48] <linuxdominator> smokewon: you will have to google that one
[06:48] <randal> how do i tell if i have 32 bit or 64 bit
[06:48] <randal> how do i tell if i have 32 bit or 64 bit
[06:48] <bizinichi> confidential
[06:48] <randal> how do i tell if i have 32 bit or 64 bit
[06:48] <linuxdominator> DozedOnLinux: you do not need to use 64bit OS... you have choice
[06:48] <randal> I KNOW
[06:48] <juannicolas> !iproute2
[06:48] <zcat[1]> Jason2gs: You can easily set GDM to log you in automatically. You can also set 'no password' but that won't really do what you want, you will still need to enter your username and them press enter at the password prompt
[06:49] <randal> im install a pregram i need to know
[06:49] <markekeller> Hey, all - do you recommend installing the Radeon 9600 ATI drivers from the ATI site, as explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or is it better to use Envy?  Or is there no difference?
[06:49] <randal> how do i tell if i have 32 bit or 64 bit
[06:49] <linuxdominator> randal: uname -a look for x86_64 for 64bit
[06:49] <juannicolas> !iproute
[06:49] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿linuxdominator: yes i am aware of that. i chose it originally cause i wasnt sure. and 64bit had just been coming out, or so i thought at the time
[06:49] <linuxdominator> !info iproute
[06:49] <juannicolas> thx
[06:49] <randal> Linux Randal-desktop 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Fri Jul 11 23:41:49 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:49] <randal> randal@Randal-desktop:~$
[06:49] <randal> Linux Randal-desktop 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Fri Jul 11 23:41:49 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:49] <randal> randal@Randal-desktop:~$
[06:49] <randal> Linux Randal-desktop 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Fri Jul 11 23:41:49 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:49] <randal> randal@Randal-desktop:~$
[06:49] <FloodBot2> randal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:49] <DozedOnLinux> !flood | randal
[06:49] <linuxdominator> randal: you have 32bit and please stop repeating
[06:50] <markekeller> Anyone want to give me their quick opinion?
[06:50] <Detrix> I need to know how the get Ubuntu to dial out. I have set up the connection but it does not actually dial out. How do I get Ubuntu to actually dial.?
[06:50] <linuxdominator> !dialup
[06:50] <zcat[1]> Jason2gs: The ubuntu install process won't let you proceed until you set a password. also there's no such thing as  a root password (you can set one but we won't tell you how, and strongly advise people to use sudo instead)
[06:50] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿markekeller:  i believe it is suggested you use the ones that are offered by the system and not the ones from the STI site
[06:50] <linuxdominator> markekeller: depends what you want
[06:50] <linuxdominator> try em both
[06:50] <alraune> ReverendMaynard: online ?
[06:50] <DozedOnLinux> ATI site *
[06:51] <Detrix> read that allready. it does not say how to actually get ubuntu to dial.
[06:51] <linuxdominator> sorry detrix been 15 years since dialup for me
[06:52] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Detrix: did you try as suggested > ﻿Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up
[06:52] <arpy_> hOW TO HOOKUP SVN REPO TO CHECKIN TO /VAR/WWW?
[06:52] <Detrix> I hate it myself
[06:52] <mjburling> Anyone know where I can get a good Arabic keyboard layout?
[06:52] <Detrix> but I have not choice at this time
[06:52] <smokewon> mkisofs is pathetic.....
[06:52] <markekeller> DozedOnLinux: So you think I should try it from "Restricted Modules", then?
[06:52] <smokewon> this is why i end up using godam windows again, because of this CLI rubbish
[06:52] <linuxdominator> smokewon: http://www.granneman.com/techinfo/linux/burningcds/makeanisoimage.htm
[06:52] <linuxdominator> whatever ;)
[06:53] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿markekeller: i would go with the one that is supplied by Ubuntu first, if that fails, then Envy is in the repos too
[06:53] <Detrix> DozedOnLinux.....nope...I will check it out
[06:53] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿markekeller: it is they just put it in
[06:53] <DozedOnLinux> !envy
[06:53] <arpy_> how do I hook up my repo located in /var/lib/svn to be accessable in /var/www for view?
[06:53] <DozedOnLinux> USUPPORTED mind you
[06:53] <linuxdominator> arpy_: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/
[06:53] <zcat[1]> smokewon: You could probably make an iso in fileroller .. I know it can unpack them
[06:53] <smokewon> noooo, im not trying to make a iso of a CD image, im trying to make an ISO out of a folder...
[06:53] <arpy_> linuxdominator: thx
[06:54] <Jason2gs> zcat[1], my apologizes :p That's what I meant. The password prompt in the terminal. Setting my user password to nothing would make it so I don't have to type anything in when that prompt comes up, correct? Is this possible?
[06:54] <linuxdominator> smokewon:    mkisofs -o /tmp/cd.iso /tmp/directory/
[06:54] <markekeller> DozedOnLinux: I actually have EnvyNG installed, and used it for my last installation, but Blender didn't work properly, and now it's reverted to Mesa for some reason, so I'm trying to get acceleration back, and get Blender to work good to.  :)
[06:54] <mjburling> Where can I download keyboard layouts for ubuntu?
[06:54] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿markekeller: my bad that was for ﻿Detrix ,
[06:54] <smokewon> linuxdominator why the /tmp etc
[06:54] <linuxdominator> mjburling: they should be in system>prefs>keyboard
[06:54] <smokewon> ?
[06:55] <mjburling> linuxdominator: The prepackaged Arabic one is really bad... are there any other resources?
[06:55] <linuxdominator> smokewon: why not? use /home/you if u want
[06:55] <Ab3L> good morning
[06:55] <linuxdominator> mjburling: not off top of my head, but I GUARANTEE google knows
[06:55] <mjburling> All I can come up with is how to go where you just suggested.
[06:56] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Detrix:  i dont know about the dialup side of Ubuntu, otherwise i would be glad to help you. best i can do is hunt down what might be useful for you to get it working, and that may take some time
[06:56] <zcat[1]> Jason2gs: Let me put it this way. For many many years, Microsoft thought that it would be much easier not to have passwords, run all users as Administrator, etc. After all, most PCs are single-user, etc..... With Vista, they realised the Unix people actually had a much better model. There's a reason Windows has millions of viruses and Linux/BSD have none and it has very little to do with market share.
[06:56] <Rolcol> smokewon: usually advice for how to do things is given in commands because they're easier than telling someone to go to places and press certian buttons.  With the CLI, you can copy and paste the commands as people give them to you without needing to do much extra.
[06:56] <linuxdominator> mjburling: http://duniacaktuh.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/arabic-fonts-on-ubuntu-804/ ?
[06:56] <smokewon> linuxdominator: this is what i get: joe@joe-desktop:~/Desktop$ mkisofs -o /home/joe/slackware.sio /home/joe/slackware
[06:56] <smokewon> Setting input-charset to 'UTF-8' from locale.
[06:56] <smokewon> mkisofs: No such file or directory. Invalid node - '/home/joe/slackware'.
[06:56] <smokewon> what the bloody hell does this mean?
[06:56] <rand0m-> what is the most stable browser in ubuntu - all 3 main ones i use keep crashign (opera, firefox, and konqueror)
[06:56] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Detrix:  if you will be on for a while, i would certainly help in hunting a fix, otherwise, i dont know what to tell you
[06:56] <zcat[1]> Jason2gs: So please, if you want a passwordless, all-admin-all-the-time system, by all means switch back to windows...
[06:56] <linuxdominator> smokewon: does that directory exist?
[06:57] <smokewon> yes
[06:57] <joetheodd> smokewon, everyone steals my username!
[06:57] <Detrix> DozedOn>> thanx for your help, I am trying to find the alternative you suggested in the docs before I go and try it.
[06:57] <linuxdominator> smokewon: should work... mkisofs is a very stable app
[06:57] <zod21> exit
[06:57] <tacosteve> smokewon, you put sio instead of iso
[06:57] <linuxdominator> doesnt' matter
[06:57] <smokewon> theres a directory called "slackware" on my desktop
[06:57] <smokewon> im trying to turn that into an iso
[06:57] <Commie_Jebus> help! after someone imed me the beep thingy is keep on repeating! I tryed closing and restarting pidgin but nothing happened
[06:57] <linuxdominator> well you never said desktop
[06:58] <linuxdominator> smokewon: ﻿mkisofs -o /home/joe/slackware.sio /home/joe/Desktop/slackware
[06:58] <linuxdominator> smokewon: ﻿mkisofs -o /home/joe/slackware.iso /home/joe/Desktop/slackware
[06:58] <smokewon> ohhhhh, yup i got it, damn sorry i missed that
[06:58] <linuxdominator> hehe
[06:58] <Commie_Jebus> help?
[06:58] <zcat[1]> smokewon: You could use k3b or brasero .. they're kinda like nero.. nice GUI stuff
[06:59] <linuxdominator> Commie_Jebus: you can disable system beep in system>prefs>sound>system beep
[06:59] <Detrix> I will actually install Ubuntu on to my laptops hard drive. I will be back...hahahah
[06:59] <smokewon> zcat[1] yeah but brasero doesnt seem to let me make iso's out of folders etc
[06:59] <zcat[1]> I know k3b can make ISOs instead of burning to disk
[06:59] <SNuxoll> smokewon: eh? yes it does
[06:59] <linuxdominator> smokewon: you have the best tool... mkisofs, simple, but yes, you need to type it :)
[06:59] <zcat[1]> Just burn and pick 'to image' instead of a drive .. brasero should be the same but I haven't checked
[06:59] <joejoecircusboy> Jason2gs: Setting no password isn't going to make you more susceptible to viruses or other malware, but it'll make it trivial for an attacker to break into your system
[07:00] <smokewon> SNuxoll it does? i dont see where
[07:00] <linuxdominator> umm there is no root password by default, does not make it trivial to attack
[07:00] <SNuxoll> smokewon: burn, drop down the drive selection, select "File image"
[07:00] <SNuxoll> linuxdominator: there is a root password by default
[07:00] <SNuxoll> linuxdominator: it's randomly generated on each install
[07:00] <zcat[1]> joejoecircusboy: But if everybody ran their system that way, Linux would soon have the same kind of virus issues that 'doze does. I like Linux how it is, WITHOUT a virus problem...
[07:00] <joejoecircusboy> linuxdenominator: He was asking about his user password
[07:00] <linuxdominator> SNuxoll: oh really ? hehe
[07:01] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: That's rediculous, viruses don't need admin privileges.
[07:01] <SNuxoll> linuxdominator: there was this big glaring bug a while ago
[07:01] <Rolcol> smokewon: in brasero, you have to go through it as you would make a data CD.  When the pop up comes up asking what drive to burn to, you can choose file image instead.
[07:01] <SNuxoll> linuxdominator: the installer wrote the password it generated in the install log
[07:01] <smokewon> mkisofs worked, but not really, every thing has ":1" at the end of it, all files within the iso
[07:02] <zcat[1]> joejoecircusboy: Depends what they want to do. Viruses with root can hide much more easily than viruses without root.
[07:02] <smokewon> why did mkisofs put a ":1" at the end of every file?
[07:02] <zcat[1]> smokewon: ";1" because it's part of the ISO standard for filenames
[07:03] <smokewon> ok so thats normal? why dont i see that with other files within ISO's?
[07:03] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: sure, they can hide easier... but they don't really need to hide at all :)  most users won't notice new files in hidden directories in their home dirs
[07:03] <zcat[1]> smokewon: other software will do the same, they just won't tell you..
[07:03] <smokewon> oh ok, well thanks for the help people, ill see if this works, brb
[07:04] <joejoecircusboy> (02:00:52 AM) SNuxoll: linuxdominator: there is a root password by default  << No there isn't, check you /etc/shadow
[07:04] <prince_jammys> it isn't possible to log in as root in a default ubuntu install
[07:04] <linuxdominator> whatever it is locked... you cannot login as root by default
[07:05] <joejoecircusboy> linuxdenominator: And no one was disputing that - thanks for your input :)
[07:05] <johnny_> I'm try to set up a WEP 64/128 bit Hex on our home wireless router, does anyone know how to go about doing it within Ubuntu?
[07:06] <SNuxoll> prince_jammys: technically, it is
[07:06] <zcat[1]> joejoecircusboy: there are many reasons wht Windows has the problems it does. Users running as admin is only part of the problem. What really annoys me is people who migrate to Linux to get away from Windows viruses and then want to change Linux in ways that are the _cause_ of Windows virus problems.. Make it easier to download and run binaries, click on a website link to install software, get rid of passwords and run as root, etc...
[07:06] <SNuxoll> prince_jammys: your chance of guesing the correct password is slim to none however
[07:06] <prince_jammys> SNuxoll: if it is, the documentation is flawed
[07:06] <r2s> does usbserial.ko included in most distro by default??
[07:06] <prince_jammys> SNuxoll: the documentation says that the root account is locked by default
[07:06] <prince_jammys> not protected by a random password that one might guess
[07:07] <linuxdominator> r2s: ... it should be, I use a usb>serial device
[07:07] <linuxdominator> !root
[07:07] <SNuxoll> prince_jammys: must have changed it since I last even cared about the root account
[07:07] <SNuxoll> prince_jammys: used to be that way
[07:07] <johnny_> I'm trying to setup a WEP 64/128 bit Hex security on our home wireless router, does anyone know how to go about doing this in Ubuntu?
[07:07] <zcat[1]> "no password" is quite different from "a password of '' so you can just press enter"
[07:07] <SNuxoll> johnny_: why bother if you are using wep?
[07:08] <linuxdominator> johnny_: ya use WPA and it should be in your user manual
[07:08] <r2s> linuxdominator: I mean most distro kernel 2.6.x included that by default??.. coz I'm making a 3G/HSDPA dialer package.. and thinking if I should include that in the package
[07:08] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: WIndows is suspectible to viruses for 2 reasons: 1 market share, 2 homogeneous platform.  Not that #2 probably contributed to #1, and Linux has neither
[07:08] <SNuxoll> johnny_: if you're going to encrypt your network use WPA, using no encryption and a mac filter is better than wep
[07:08] <hendrixski> join #grails
[07:08] <hendrixski> oops
[07:08] <linuxdominator> linuxdominator: you cannot count on it, you need to research
[07:08] <joejoecircusboy> Not=Note
[07:09] <linuxdominator> mac filters are easier to bypass than wep
[07:09] <jobenjo> Strangely... all of my swap space on my disk has dissappeared. What can I do to restore it?
[07:09] <Commie_Jebus> joejoecircusboy: and also because it is not open-source and therefor dosnt have a alot of develp
[07:09] <SNuxoll> linuxdominator: not really....
[07:09] <zcat[1]> joejoecircusboy: Market share is not the main reason. Windows #1 problem imho is that there's little seperation between 'data' and 'software' -- you 'open' a file the same way. If it's a document, windows launches the application. If it's a program, windows runs it.
[07:09] <SNuxoll> linuxdominator: both are pretty easy to get around, one just requires some more time
[07:09] <linuxdominator> for some SNuxoll
[07:09] <wols> linuxdominator: they are about equally useful. ie. not at all. WEP has the advantage of obfuscation tho
[07:09] <linuxdominator> matter of firing up kismet
[07:09] <zcat[1]> ... and then they keep insisting on being able to include 'code' inside 'document' formats in ways that make it easy for virus writers
[07:10] <smokewon> Unfortunatly that didnt work
[07:10] <smokewon> sorry how do i burn ISO's with brasero again? from files i mean
[07:10] <linuxdominator> jobenjo: um... how are seeing this
[07:10] <SNuxoll> smokewon: Data Disc, add the files
[07:10] <linuxdominator> smokewon: ricght click on ISO and say burn ;)
[07:10] <smokewon> yup done that
[07:10] <linuxdominator> from nautilus
[07:10] <SNuxoll> smokewon: then select Burn, select file image
[07:10] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: Note that Apple exhibits far more of that type of behaviour, yet does not have the problem that Windows does. Why? Market share
[07:10] <zh> ＃ubuntu-tw
[07:11] <SNuxoll> linuxdominator: he wants to make an iso from a bunch of files
[07:11] <smokewon> its not asking me to select file image
[07:11] <linuxdominator> not what he asked this time
[07:11] <smokewon> it jsut burns after i click on burn
[07:11] <SNuxoll> joejoecircusboy: not exactly true either, os x has access restrictions
[07:11] <SNuxoll> linuxdominator: yes, it is
[07:11] <zh> ubuntu-tw
[07:11] <jobenjo> linuxdomainator: Top and free -m list 0k used 0k total 0k free
[07:11] <SNuxoll> smokewon: you need to select burn from the file menu
[07:11] <smokewon> yes i want to make a ISO image from a bunch of files
[07:11] <smokewon> oh ok
[07:11] <jobenjo> linuxdominator: (that is)
[07:12] <smokewon> there is no file menu
[07:12] <smokewon> only Project
[07:12] <smokewon> Edit, View etc
[07:12] <SNuxoll> smokewon: Project...
[07:12] <zcat[1]> smokewon: I don't know that brasero can do it. try k3b instead?
[07:12] <linuxdominator> jobenjo: you could paste output of sudo fdisk -l for me
[07:12] <SNuxoll> zcat[1]: yes, brasero can do it
[07:12] <SNuxoll> zcat[1]: I did it earlier today
[07:13] <zcat[1]> SNuxoll: ok...
[07:13] <smokewon> I dont see where its happening, i just tried on Project => Data CD  (whcih does not make an ISO)
[07:13] <SNuxoll> bah, my irssi windows are all fubared
[07:13] <smokewon> so tried:
[07:13] <SNuxoll> smokewon: make a new project that's a data cd
[07:13] <zcat[1]> SNuxoll: I just cheked and couldn't figure out how. You did understand the problem.. creat ISO from a folder.. not 'burn an iso' ?
[07:13] <SNuxoll> smokewon: add your files to the CD
[07:13] <smokewon> yup
[07:13] <SNuxoll> smokewon: then click burn, it will show a dialog
[07:14] <linuxdominator> smokewon: can you rip the files off a cd?
[07:14] <joejoecircusboy> SNuxoll: Right, and how would that protect again any of the attacks you just highlighted?  How would running as 'non-root' protect against opening malicious programs as documents, or malicious script content in documents? (i.e. the weaknesses in Windows you just cited as its downfall)
[07:14] <smokewon> i can rip files off a cd, just not turn files into a ISO image
[07:14] <SNuxoll> smokewon: there will be a dropdown to select the drive you burn with, pull it down and select "File image"
[07:14] <smokewon> i click burn theres no dialog after that, it just burns
[07:14] <linuxdominator> smokewon: then it is dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/joe/Desktop/yourcd.iso
[07:14] <SNuxoll> joejoecircusboy: I don't think I know of a OS X program that allows scripts in documents
[07:14] <jobenjo> linuxdominator: uh-oh... partition table... http://dpaste.com/70328/
[07:15] <joejoecircusboy> SNuxoll: THe browser? Office suite?
[07:15] <linuxdominator> and i know that mounts right in daemon tools for instance smokewon
[07:15] <SNuxoll> joejoecircusboy: MS Office and iWork on the mac don't allow scripts
[07:15] <smokewon> need it to boot off though :S
[07:15] <linuxdominator> not really good jobenjo
[07:15] <SNuxoll> joejoecircusboy: and javascript is generally sandboxed
[07:15] <jobenjo> linuxdominator: The partition table problem?
[07:15] <SNuxoll> smokewon: making bootable discs is a different matter all together
[07:16] <linuxdominator> jobenjo: next time you reboot it probably will not start up...
[07:16] <joejoecircusboy> SNuxoll: Doesn't prevent it from being exploited (Look up Firefox vulnerabilities from the last couple of years)
[07:16] <smokewon> brb
[07:16] <SNuxoll> joejoecircusboy: Gecko sucks anyways ;)
[07:16] <joejoecircusboy> SNuxoll: Fair enough, but that doesn't refute my point ;)
[07:16] <jobenjo> linuxdominator: We just rebooted the machine, so that wasn't the problem. This is a xen-hosted machine, so maybe that's what's going on?
[07:16] <SNuxoll> joejoecircusboy: no, it doesn't
[07:16] <zcat[1]> SNuxoll: Weird.. I just went back and NOT it lets me change that.. before (perhaps because I hadn't put anything in the folder?) it wouldn't let me pick anything but the burner ..
[07:16] <zcat[1]> s/NOT/NOW/
[07:17] <SNuxoll> zcat[1]: strange
[07:17] <Rat409>  /cl
[07:17] <linuxdominator> jobenjo: did this happen after last reboot
[07:17] <zcat[1]> anyhow.. smokewon yes, do what SNuxoll said.. or k3b works the same way but brasero should let you do it.
[07:17] <Jordan_U> joejoecircusboy: Which is why I personally run my browser as an underprivileged user ( or setup selinux / apparmer policies, depending on how lazy I am :)
[07:17] <JUAN_18---------> asdfasdf
[07:17] <JUAN_18---------> dsa
[07:17] <JUAN_18---------> fsd
[07:17] <JUAN_18---------> af
[07:17] <JUAN_18---------> sd
[07:17] <JUAN_18---------> sd
[07:17] <FloodBot2> JUAN_18---------: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:17] <JUAN_18---------> sd
[07:18] <zcat[1]> Hmmm.. cat on keyboard?
[07:18] <jobenjo> linuxdominator: No. This happened, we rebooted, and the problem persisted.
[07:18] <joejoecircusboy> Jordan_U: Ya, there are solutions to this problem, but it's not as simple as "don't set a root password" (which is what started this discussion)
[07:18] <SNuxoll> zcat[1]: I don't like K3B, is a KDE app, I refuse to install non-gtk apps :)
[07:18] <linuxdominator> jobenjo: i would contact you xen provider, I am no xen expert, I use openvz ;)
[07:19] <linuxdominator> and i would take a backup
[07:19] <SNuxoll> zcat[1]: but I'm a purist who likes a consistent looking desktop
[07:19] <jobenjo> linuxdominator: Just started. Thank you for your help!
[07:19] <Rat409> gnomebaker or graveman are good also
[07:19] <zcat[1]> SNuxoll: horses for courses. I kinda like k3b.. then again I have a desktop theme that looks a lot like vista so clearly I have no taste at all ;)
[07:20] <Rat409> lol
[07:20] <dexi> is there a way to print to a network printer on a mostly windows network that im wired to?
[07:20] <andi> hi<@all
[07:20] <wols> dexi: sure
[07:20] <DogBoy> what does vista look like?
[07:20] <dexi> wols:  is it easy?
[07:20] <wols> DogBoy: ask ##windows
[07:20] <con-man> what audio codec do I need to play windows media audio in linux?
[07:20] <zcat[1]> glassy and blurry and crystal-like
[07:20] <andi> some command line geeks here?
[07:20] <SNuxoll> dexi: crap basically?
[07:20] <SNuxoll> andi: you called?
[07:20] <wols> üdemostly. two choices either via IPP from cups or samba
[07:20] <DogBoy> wols, it was a retorical question
[07:20] <wols> should use CUPS first
[07:21] <andi> Hi SNuxoll
[07:21] <dexi> SNuxoll: huh?
[07:21] <SNuxoll> con-man: just install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:21] <wols> DogBoy: do you have a ubuntu support problem?
[07:21] <mkquist> vista? what's that?
[07:21] <andi> i have an ftp username which contains an "@"
[07:21] <SNuxoll> dexi: you asked what vista looks like :P
[07:21] <DogBoy> what's up wols
[07:21] <dexi> SNuxoll: no i didnt
[07:21] <dexi> SNuxoll: you must have misread
[07:21] <mkquist> is vista some kinda linux program?
[07:21] <wols> DogBoy: I asked, "Do you have a ubuntu support question"?
[07:21] <alraune> dexi:turn on win file n printersharig, over (ubu) places>network>winNet>pc>printer...
[07:21] <SNuxoll> dexi: bah, yup
[07:21] <joejoecircusboy> Jordan_U: We might see virtualization technology lead to a more generalized form of sandboxing, where individual apps are essentially started in lite-VMs of their own, with a share folder or something for file downloads
[07:21] <DogBoy> yes but why
[07:21] <mkquist> jk... of course
[07:21] <andi> I wanna mount an FTP drive via curlftpfs
[07:22] <con-man> SNuxoll: ty
[07:22] <dexi> thanks alraune
[07:22] <Jordan_U> joejoecircusboy: Not setting a root password in Ubuntu is really just a way to encourage good habits, the way that Ubuntu has sudo setup there is no technical difference of note between  "su -c" and sudo or "sudo -s" and "su"  but a huge difference in how users tend to act with the two setups.
[07:22] <andi> now i get something like user@name@mydomain.com
[07:22] <wols> DogBoy: cause you are OT and this is a ubuntu supporty channel only. if you want to smalltalk: /msg ubottu OT
[07:22] <andi> can I escape the first @ somehow which is part f the username?
[07:22] <zcat[1]> at least it doesn't run like vista.. I have a friend uses vista, their computer has 1.5x CPU speed, twice the ram, basically half-again or better specs on every component than mine, but it just seems 'sluggish' in comparison..
[07:22] <SNuxoll> andi: andi yes
[07:23] <fyrestrtr> Jordan_U: there is a difference between su, su -c, sudo, sudo -s, sudo -i, sudo su - etc.
[07:23] <linuxdominator> andi: try wrapping whole thing in single quotes ? 'reger@@host.com'
[07:23] <andi> FTP guis do it ,)
[07:23] <dexi> alraune: what if I don't see a printer inside that PC's directory?
[07:23] <joejoecircusboy> Jordan_U: Understood, and I like that. But when a new user asks why, we should go into a rant about malware and virus threats
[07:23] <zcat[1]> actually it seems 'sluggish' compared to my laptop which is even lower spec.
[07:23] <joejoecircusboy> *shouldn't
[07:23] <dexi> alraune: but i know it's connected...
[07:23] <SNuxoll> andi: use %43 I believe
[07:23] <fyrestrtr> Jordan_U: and, not setting a root password is not a good habit, imo.
[07:23] <wols> zcat[1]: do you have a ubuntu support question?
[07:23] <andi> SNuxoll: thanks, I try
[07:23] <joejoecircusboy> fyrestrtr: He's referring to root lacking a valid password (not allowing logins with no password)
[07:24] <zcat[1]> no, I just feel like ranting. I may answer a few questions if I see something I know the answer to...
[07:24] <linuxdominator> if you guys wanna chat go to -ot
[07:24] <wols> zcat[1]: then rant elsewhere please
[07:24] <zcat[1]> yah, ok...
[07:24] <SNuxoll> zcat[1]: join #ubuntu-offtopic then
[07:24] <fyrestrtr> joejoecircusboy: thanks -- but root should have a password, it helps in system recovery.
[07:24] <wols> fyrestrtr: no it does not
[07:24] <alraune> dexi:if you can see the pc its attched too, take a look on the pc the printer is connected too (fw, printer sharing.. etc)
[07:24] <zcat[1]> fyrestrtr: not really..
[07:24] <SNuxoll> fyrestrtr: not really
[07:25] <fyrestrtr> to say that its a good habit to have an 'unknown' or 'invalid' root password is good practice is not right.
[07:25] <zcat[1]> You can boot to a root prompt easily enough if you have to, no password required
[07:25] <joejoecircusboy> fyrestrtr: I think Ubuntu allows root login in single user mode (for that type of thing) - don't quote me on that though
[07:25] <wols> fyrestrtr: the policy of ubuntu and this channel is "no root password" and that's it and believe me you won#t change it.
[07:25] <SNuxoll> fyrestrtr: when you boot into single user mode you don't need the root password
[07:25] <dexi> alraune: ok i'll go ask my dad about it, i think he's running it
[07:25] <dexi> alraune: its vista, do you know what needs to be done?
[07:25]  * Omar87 sends his greetings to everyone in the room.
[07:25] <SNuxoll> fyrestrtr: being able to login as root is a bad thing
[07:25] <wols> fyrestrtr: it's not unknown since there is NO root password
[07:25] <xiven> Hey guys
[07:25] <fyrestrtr> wols: yes, I know what the policy is, thanks :)
[07:25] <xiven> I'm needing some help over a couple things.
[07:25] <wols> fyrestrtr: then stop this discussion please
[07:25] <linuxdominator> fyrestrtr: it is a good policy, no reason to even talk about it
[07:26] <linuxdominator> whats up xiven
[07:26] <xiven> One: Sharing a printer that is connected to a machine running Windows, and Two: How to get Ubuntu to scan for 802.11G Wireless networks (Available)
[07:26] <alraune> dexi:this won't be vista channel, but go to network,preferences
[07:26] <linuxdominator> !samba | xiven
[07:26] <zcat[1]> By 'no root password' what we mean is 'there is nothing you can type at the password prompt which would ever qualify as a valid root password'
[07:26] <linuxdominator> hmm
[07:26] <linuxdominator> hold on
[07:26] <alraune> !wireless
[07:27] <SNuxoll> zcat[1]: yup
[07:27] <deeporange1> Hello all... I am new to Ubuntu and have a question about linux software. Anyone got a moment to spare to answer a question or two?
[07:27] <dexi> ok thanks alraune i'll see what i can do
[07:27] <xiven> SAMBA I would install onto the Linux machine, or the Windows machine?
[07:27] <linuxdominator> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrinterSharing xiven
[07:27] <wols> dexi: check with smbclient -L <ip of windows> if the printer is available on the network
[07:27] <alraune> dexi :type: /list in your irc client
[07:27] <zcat[1]> 'cos it would have to hash down to '*' and the hashes just don't work that way.
[07:27] <xiven> I should mention the machine with the printer is running Vista
[07:27] <xiven> ok
[07:27] <xiven> How about Scanning for Available wirless networks (802.11G) with Ubuntu?
[07:28] <wols> xiven: neither. samba is if you want to share a linux disk or printer with windows. if you want to access a windows printer, it's not needed. is the windows printer available on the network?
[07:28] <fyrestrtr> deeporange1: just ask your question, if anyone knows, they will help :)
[07:28] <wols> xiven: iwlist
[07:28] <dexi> wols: is there a command to list all IPs in the network?
[07:28] <zcat[1]> just ask deeporange1, we'll decide if we can answer it
[07:28] <deeporange1> Hey thanks.
[07:28] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: Actually, the hash is '!' on my install... but I'm splitting hairs :)
[07:28] <Rat409> iwlist scanning?
[07:28] <wols> dexi: no
[07:28] <dexi> crap
[07:28] <wols> dexi: well there is arp.... sorta
[07:28] <wols> dexi: your windows box knows what IP it is
[07:28] <dexi> ok i'll have to actually get up and ask my dad to do an ipconfig
[07:28] <linuxdominator> dexi: nmap 192.168.1.0/24 -sP
[07:28] <linuxdominator> install nmap first
[07:28] <SigmaProjects> Hey everyone... Can anyone help me out uninstalling vmware-server?  dpkg throws errors at me while trying to get rid of it
[07:28] <dexi> ok
[07:29] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: What errors?
[07:29] <wols> dexi: it can work if you know the netbios name. but netbios resolution is awful. hit+miss
[07:29] <dexi> 0/24 is range linuxdominator ?
[07:29] <wols> !errors SigmaProjects
[07:29] <wols> !errors | SigmaProjects
[07:29] <linuxdominator> dexi: adjust accordingly
[07:29] <dexi> ok
[07:29] <dexi> i'll try
[07:29] <zcat[1]> joejoecircusboy: it is? hmm... I can't check on this box.. I've done something hypocritaical here ;)
[07:29] <deeporange1> I am looking for some software. What I need is an open source free disc recovery program. While installing linux I deallocated one of my most important drives....
[07:29] <jemtv> wondering if someone can tell me i need to update the kernel to support my tv card in mythtv i have found this site but just wondering if someone can explain do i need to tyep all this stuff in somewhere? http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=cbb94521cff24c98c2dbee28fb95e007c6bcaa43
[07:29] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: lol
[07:29] <deeporange1> Does anyone know of some good linux based software for disc recovery?
[07:29] <wols> deeporange1: what exactly did you do?
[07:29] <zcat[1]> all the other locked accounts are * tho..
[07:29] <Jordan_U> deeporange1: Try testdisk
[07:30] <deeporange1> I accidentally deallocated my media drive (that also contains my work stuff too)
[07:30] <wols> jemtv: don't
[07:30] <SigmaProjects> Here's the error in pastebin: http://pastebin.com/m125b716c
[07:30] <deeporange1> I guess my file naming tables or whatnot were deleted
[07:30] <Jordan_U> deeporange1: But if you actually reformatted the drive then you are most likely SOL
[07:30] <linuxdominator> deeporange1: i bet this can do it http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[07:30] <linuxdominator> if it is possible
[07:31] <wols> deeporange1: unless you KNOW what happened, trying to rescue is futile and probably does more harm than good
[07:31] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: ya... I think '*' is used for an active account for which there is no valid password, where as '!' actually disables the account (but not for sudo apparently)
[07:31] <deeporange1> I have run some crapola proprietary programs that cost a pretty penny and I can see that the files are still in tact... But I will have to pay out the nose to recover them/
[07:31] <Jordan_U> deeporange1: If it's just your partition table that is screwed up then testdisk will fix it
[07:31] <linuxdominator> deeporange1: first thing to do is to image the entire drive, then work from that
[07:31] <zcat[1]> joejoecircusboy: When I want to dissable an account I change the shell to /bin/false
[07:31] <Eurytheus> Hello
[07:31] <linuxdominator> deeporange1: you can very possibly fix it, it may be hard work tho
[07:32] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: YOu can log into an account w/ ssh keyauth if the hash is '*', but sshd will reject your key if the hash is '!'
[07:32] <webpirate> hello
[07:32] <webpirate> anyone using amsn here?
[07:32] <jemtv> wols, dont what?
[07:32] <drazak> nobody
[07:32] <drazak> ever used it
[07:32] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: me too (well, I do both)
[07:32] <wols> jemtv: compile your own kernel
[07:32] <webpirate> my amsn won't connect anymore
[07:32] <webpirate> anyone having the same problem?
[07:32] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: just doing /bin/fasle would still allow FTP auth, for example
[07:32] <wols> webpirate: yes it's common
[07:33] <deeporange1> I have looked into the ultimateWell, ultimate boot disc doesn't have what I need. Basically I need the file tables or whatever rebuilt.
[07:33] <SigmaProjects> ﻿joejoecircusboy : http://pastebin.com/m125b716c thats the error
[07:33] <jemtv> wols, can you explain more? sorry so new to all this
[07:33] <deeporange1> Programs such as disc recovery wizard do this.
[07:33] <wols> jemtv: you will mess it up and have an unworkable kernel and system. that's all
[07:33] <Jordan_U> deeporange1: Again, testdisk should do what you need
[07:33] <linuxdominator> deeporange1: if you read man page of your filesystem you may find out how
[07:33] <wols> jemtv: what kernel version do you need?
[07:33] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: Hmm!
[07:33] <Jordan_U> !info testdisk | deeporange1
[07:34] <linuxdominator> good call Jordan_U check it myself ;)
[07:34] <deeporange1> Hey that sounds intriguing Ubottu!
[07:34] <DogBoy> jemtv, what tv card is that
[07:34] <webpirate> has anyone heard about any network problems with msn ?
[07:35] <linuxdominator> i again urge you to image disk deeporange1
[07:35] <wols> webpirate: I just told you. it's common
[07:35] <jemtv> dogboy, compro dvb-t200a
[07:35] <deeporange1> I will have to look into that more fully
[07:35] <webpirate> oh...
[07:35] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: Did you try removing with dpkg?
[07:35] <alraune> ﻿ deeporange1: ubottu is a bot
[07:35] <prince_jammys> SigmaProjects: what is the command you are running that gives that error?
[07:35] <deeporange1> Really!?
[07:35] <wols> jemtv: useless info. what chip does it use is more important. and I asked you something
[07:35] <deeporange1> Seems like a nice bot thought
[07:35] <webpirate> ok...so I guess its an amsn issue? should I upgrade?
[07:35] <jemtv> wols, sorry thought i replied
[07:35] <DogBoy> jemtv, havey you looked at using mythbuntu
[07:35] <SigmaProjects> joejoecircusboy:  oddly enough, this command: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r` xinetd
[07:36] <jemtv> wols, not sure which one it is what is te terminal cmd to check
[07:36] <alraune> ﻿ deeporange1: ubottu is a bot, thank Jordan_U who triggered it
[07:36] <linuxdominator> webpirate: it is an msn problem more likely... you could try using pidgin, which is better imo
[07:36] <jemtv> dogboy, thats wht im using
[07:36] <wols> jemtv: I said "which one do you need". not "which one do you run right now"
[07:36] <deeporange1> Thanks Jordan_U for triggering a very knowledgeable bot!
[07:36] <jemtv> wols, not sure...im very new to this and not understading sorry
[07:36] <Jordan_U> deeporange1: np :)
[07:36] <wols> jemtv: then find out
[07:37] <wols> jemtv: unless you know what you need, it will be kinda hard to get it, right?
[07:37] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: Few ideas: 1. if you don't need vmware, try remove it explicitly first, then do the above. 2. Did you update your apt db first? (apt-get update),  3. Try removing vmware with dpkg
[07:37] <prince_jammys> SigmaProjects: have you been able to isolate which of those three packages causes the error?
[07:37] <linuxdominator> jemtv: this is hard stuff.. you are gonna have to either do some readin, or find a supported card, there are lots of lists
[07:37] <wols> prince_jammys: none does. vmware-server does
[07:37] <prince_jammys> it
[07:37] <prince_jammys> it's a bizarre error message
[07:37] <joejoecircusboy> ya
[07:38] <wols> it's a severaly broken package or possibly a disk problem
[07:38] <jemtv> dogboy, my tv tuner has a video in so i have just pluged that into the video out of my amplifier, but i dont know how to get the video in to work, because i have tried scanning but thats not correct because its not the aireal cable
[07:38] <linuxdominator> prince_jammys: vmware is notoriously hard to uninstall.. try to get it perfectly installed, then uninstall
[07:38] <jemtv> linuxdommunator it is suppoorted according to the site
[07:38] <ompaul> morning I am about to remove some bans this will cause some scrolling, normal service will be restored for values of restored asap
[07:38] <SigmaProjects> joejoecircusboy: Could you tell me how to remove it explicitly and in dpkg... I'm a little new
[07:38] <linuxdominator> !mythbuntu
[07:38] <jemtv> linuxdomminator it is suppoorted according to the site
[07:38] <prince_jammys> linuxdominator: yeah, it just seems by the error message that the uninstall script is failing, syntax-wise or something
[07:39] <ompaul> finished - have fun
[07:39] <linuxdominator> what site jemtv
[07:39] <wols> OMG ompaul lets the nasties back in!
[07:39] <acrousey> hi, when i try to add the game glife from "Add/Remove Applications", it tells me that "This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'glife' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[07:39] <acrousey> Switch to the 'synaptic' package manager to resolve this conflict."
[07:39] <zcat[1]> debanflood ;)
[07:39] <linuxdominator> prince_jammys: you can run vmware-uninstall.sh but this bypasses dkpg
[07:39] <deeporange1> Thanks all!
[07:39] <acrousey> how do i do that?
[07:39] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: dpkg --purge vmware-server << try this
[07:39] <ompaul> wols, I'm saying nothing ;-)
[07:39] <linuxdominator> acrousey: system>admin>synaptic
[07:39] <bullgard4> What is a "file pager"? Synaptic: "w3m is a text-based World Wide Web browser with IPv6 support. It features excellent support for tables and frames. It can be used as a standalone file pager, too."
[07:39] <jemtv> linuxdominator http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb/file/tip/linux/Documentation/video4linux/CARDLIST.saa7134
[07:39] <prince_jammys> linuxdominator: that's it - it's a shell script error message
[07:39] <wols> bullgard4: more, less, etc
[07:40] <zcat[1]> bullgard4: less
[07:40] <SigmaProjects> joejoecircusboy:  that gives the same error as the pastebin
[07:40] <linuxdominator> bullgard4: for navigating through pages?
[07:40] <joejoecircusboy> bullgard4: a problem that feeds you text a page at a time (pager) i.e. more/less
[07:40] <jemtv> linuxdominator card 71
[07:40] <linuxdominator> prince_jammys: i know :)
[07:40] <zcat[1]> 'more or less' vbg...
[07:40] <joejoecircusboy> problem/program*
[07:40]  * prince_jammys doesn't know about vmware
[07:40] <xiven> hm
[07:40] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: Did you get vmware installed correctly?
[07:41] <xiven> iwlist said that my eth0 doesn't support scanning..thats odd...does it on windows.
[07:41] <linuxdominator> jemtv: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=338182 ?
[07:41] <prince_jammys> it would seem that the shell script is crap, but anyway...
[07:41] <SigmaProjects> I dont think so, when I tried to run it, it kept erroring, thats why im trying to uninstall it
[07:41] <zcat[1]> forget vmware, virtualbox is the shit!
[07:41] <zcat[1]> !info virtualbox-ose
[07:41] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: try dpkg-reconfigure vmware-server
[07:41] <linuxdominator> prince_jammys: it totally is, you may have to clean it out, but I would suggest a reinstall through apt, then try to uninstall --purge
[07:41] <wols> jemtv: ubuntu already comes with a driver for that in the normal kernel
[07:41] <wols> jemtv: /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/saa7134/saa7134.ko
[07:41] <SigmaProjects> joejoecircusboy:  vmware-server is broken or not fully installed
[07:41] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: you may need to run vmware-config.pl as well
[07:41] <xiven> Can you install Vista into VirtualBox?
[07:41] <bullgard4> joejoecircusboy: a file pager is no problem.
[07:42] <wols> xiven: ask #vbox
[07:42] <zcat[1]> yep.. apparently virtualbox will handle vista
[07:42] <acrousey> what are the files "libglade-gnome0" and "libglade0" and why am I unable to install them?
[07:42] <wols> !errors | acrousey
[07:42] <jemtv> linuxdominator do i do that as that card so all the same as that or do i chane it to my card?
[07:42] <prince_jammys> !info libglade0
[07:42] <joejoecircusboy> (02:42:08 AM) bullgard4: joejoecircusboy: a file pager is no problem. << *program
[07:42] <prince_jammys> !info libglade-gnome0
[07:43] <prince_jammys> mm.
[07:43] <webpirate> New amsn has been updated....thats why it won't work
[07:43] <elvis8900> hello
[07:43] <linuxdominator> jemtv: i have never used a tv card
[07:43] <wols> webpirate: 0.97-2 supposedly does
[07:43] <wols> jemtv: you don't need a new kernel
[07:43] <Magellan11> Hello dudes
[07:43] <linuxdominator> i would try what they say jemtv
[07:43] <jemtv> wols, do u use mythtv?
[07:43] <wols> jemtv: no
[07:43] <bullgard4> wols, zcat[1] linuxdominator joejoecircusboy: Thank you for your answers.
[07:43] <jemtv> linuxdominator thanks
[07:43] <SigmaProjects> joejoecircusboy:  ive noticed that whenever I try to use dpkg in anyway it wants me to uninstall vmware-server before anything, but errors
[07:44] <jemtv> wols ok just havign probs because it always says no singnal even when things are plugged in...
[07:44] <zcat[1]> I set up a network in virtualbox.. windows server, two XP clients (to be sure it was properly migrating settings and stuff) , and then played around with likewise-open in an ubuntu install in another VM.
[07:44] <acrousey> well, if these libglade files do not exist in ubuntu 8.04, how can i make them exist in it?
[07:44] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: That's definitely 'not right' :) (I haven't actually encountered that myself though, so I'm just making educated guesses)
[07:44] <wols> SigmaProjects: that's normal. it puts your package maangement in an inconsistent state and dpkg needs to have this fixed to be able to work again
[07:44] <wols> acrousey: what for?
[07:44] <zcat[1]> btw I have some likewise-open questions.. the behavious in ubuntu doesn't seem to match what the documentation says; basically almost everything seems broken
[07:44] <Takmadeu1> hi!
[07:44] <linuxdominator> jemtv: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=340831 original thread
[07:45] <Takmadeu1> I have a question
[07:45] <acrousey> wols: it's for the game "glife"
[07:45] <Magellan11> I'm a linux noob, and need to extract a batch file. can anyone point to a tutorial or a program that could explain how to do hat?
[07:45] <SigmaProjects> wols: do you know of a way I can just get rid of vmware-server or at least stop dpkg from doing this
[07:45] <Magellan11> or explain how I can do it?
[07:45] <wols> SigmaProjects: you've been told what to do
[07:45] <Takmadeu1> don't you think gnome office lacks a presentation tool?
[07:45] <linuxdominator> Magellan11: what is file extension
[07:45] <wols> Magellan11: extract from what?
[07:45] <Magellan11> .bat
[07:45] <linuxdominator> !wine | Magellan11
[07:46] <linuxdominator> you need that i believe
[07:46] <SigmaProjects> I've tried to uninstall/reinstall/reconfigure vmware-server but it errors saying the package is broken or hasnt been installed correctly
[07:46] <Magellan11> Wine doesnt do anything with it, ill run it...and nothin
[07:46] <wols> linuxdominator: he didn't ask to run it...
[07:46] <Takmadeu1> wouldn't it be good to have an impress replacement for gnome office?
[07:46] <wols> SigmaProjects: you've been told you reinstall it
[07:46] <linuxdominator> wols: it seems like a windows self-uncompressing thingie
[07:46] <prince_jammys> Magellan11: look into something called dos box
[07:46] <SigmaProjects> Okay
[07:46] <Magellan11> will do
[07:46] <wols> Takmadeu1: it would also be good if I had a pony.
[07:46] <zcat[1]> SigmaProjects: hate it when that happens.. I can never remember how to fix it again
[07:46] <alraune> lol
[07:46] <prince_jammys> (i think)
[07:46] <Magellan11> thanks for the help!
[07:46] <wols> Magellan11: what batch file is it? what's it supposed to do?
[07:47] <prince_jammys> i don't know that wine can run .bat scripts
[07:47] <Takmadeu1> wols: which color would you like it to be?
[07:47] <linuxdominator> sure
[07:47] <wols> prince_jammys: if it has a cmd.exe somewhere it sorta can.
[07:47] <Takmadeu1> :D
[07:47] <linuxdominator> they are just windows batch file
[07:47] <wols> Takmadeu1: doesn't matter. just as long as its tasty
[07:47] <FuRom> Is mythTV only for people with video cards? I can't find anything definitive on it, so I figured someone in here could tell me a bit about it, since it's in the synaptic package manager. I've checked out the site, but it's not telling me exactly what I want to know. I want to know it it's like, a webTV thing.
[07:47] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: Did you try the dpkg-reconfigure?
[07:47] <Takmadeu1> wols: mmmmm tasty ponies :p
[07:47] <wols> FuRom: it's a digital video recoder and media player
[07:47] <SNuxoll> FuRom: it's used to record TV
[07:48] <wols> *recorder
[07:48] <alraune> wols:and you would name it T..
[07:48] <joejoecircusboy> FuRom: mythtv is like TiVO
[07:48] <SNuxoll> FuRom: works great as a DVR, sucks as a media center
[07:48] <wols> alraune: food doesn't need names
[07:48] <Takmadeu1> FuRom: for webtv try miro (used tobe called democracy player)
[07:48] <Magellan11> Wols, im trying to install System Shock 2, and need to extract a .bat for some sound files or something
[07:48] <FuRom> wols, SNuxoll, joejoecircusboy, thanks. Just making sure I don't waste my time messin with it.
[07:48] <prince_jammys> Magellan11: dosbox is installable through apt, if it turns out you want that. i could be totally off though. haven't seen a .bat in a long time
[07:48] <linuxdominator> i use geexbox as media center
[07:48] <zcat[1]> wols: My food nas a name, it's 'nom nom nom' ;)
[07:48] <wols> Magellan11: extract is the totally wrong word
[07:48] <SigmaProjects> joejoecircusboy:  yes, but it tells me the package is broken or not fully installed.  Im going to try re-installing it again
[07:49] <FuRom> Takmadeu1, thanks man!!!
[07:49] <wols> FuRom: it can run without a videocard btw. or rahter approrpiate the TV card as one with certain TV cards
[07:49] <cmX1> I am installing Ubuntu 8.04 with a dual boot windows xp on a separate hard drive and am receiving Error 17 from grub :(, any ideas??
[07:49] <FuRom> None of ya'll would happen to know of a good tv guide widget? xD
[07:49] <Takmadeu1> FuRom: mythTV is best with a media center kind of PC, you know, with remote and access to dvds and music and everything
[07:49] <Magellan11> oh geez
[07:49] <wols> cmX1: sure. your grub install was wrong
[07:50] <linuxdominator> !grub | cmX1
[07:50] <Takmadeu1> FuRom: IMO MythTV is meant to be used with a remote
[07:50] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: can you pastebin 'dpkg -s vmware-server' ?
[07:50] <wols> Magellan11: which means we dunno what you say. also, I own sshock2 and I never saw any batchfile when installing it. just a nice setup.exe
[07:50] <FuRom> wols, ah, I see. I don't think it's really useful to me though.
[07:50] <Magellan11> im a pirate :(
[07:50] <joejoecircusboy> Takmadeu1/FuRom: A gamepad works well too (that's what I use)
[07:50] <zcat[1]> Magellan11: ARRRR!
[07:50] <wols> FuRom: also mythtv can be split in backend and frontend. the abckend can be a headless server easily
[07:50] <Takmadeu1> FuRom: it is easier to do traditional point and click instead of using mythTV
[07:50] <linuxdominator> Magellan11: is this a rip?
[07:51] <prince_jammys> shame on you!
[07:51] <wols> Magellan11: then stop asking in here. /msg ubottu warez
[07:51] <SigmaProjects> joejoecircusboy:  http://pastebin.com/m41c49ea8
[07:51] <Magellan11> Yes linuxdom
[07:51] <FuRom> Takmadeu1, it totally doesn't sound like something I'd need. joejoecircusboy, I don't even have a gamepad port on my sound card xD
[07:51] <Takmadeu1> FuRom: a gamepad would work really nice
[07:51] <linuxdominator> you need what i said Magellan11 but this is OT
[07:51] <cmX1> ubottu I tried that and when i got to the 'mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /mnt/root' command i run into some problems
[07:51] <joejoecircusboy> FuRom: USB, god.. who uses gameports anymore? :P
[07:51] <Takmadeu1> FuRom: with some work you can use your bluetooth cellphone
[07:51] <wols> cmX1: !errors | cmX1
[07:51] <wols> !errors | cmX1
[07:52] <FuRom> joejoecircusboy, lmao, my only gamepad that I have is pretty old.... *cough* I prefer keyboard for gaming... WASD and what not xD
[07:52] <willfrand> hi
[07:52] <prince_jammys> wow, flood tolerance has gone down.
[07:52] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: You 'aliened' the vmware rpm?
[07:52] <Takmadeu1> FuRom: I can't tell you how it is done though, bluetooth is not my strong point
[07:52] <FuRom> Takmadeu1, lol, if I had one, I could. Sounds like an interesting thing to do though.
[07:53] <Takmadeu1> By the way
[07:53] <joejoecircusboy> FuRom: Ya, me 2... the controller I used is an Xbox controller... just hacked a USB connector on the end
[07:53] <zcat[1]> I picked up a fairly nice joystick at a 2nd hand shop a while back.. got home and found out that not one of my computers has anything remotely like a gameport any more.
[07:53] <Takmadeu1> do you know how do I get to make a pareallel port adapter for a psx gamepad to work in ubuntu?
[07:53] <alraune> ﻿ zcat[1]: cheap soundcards have
[07:53] <willfrand> hi, i have problems with amsn, but no speak english, only spanish, then, can somebody help me?
[07:53] <FuRom> joejoecircusboy: That's pretty interesting.... Time to go out and buy a game console for that..... xD
[07:53] <Takmadeu1> que clase de problemas?
[07:53] <prince_jammys> !es | willfrand
[07:53] <wols> !es | willfrand
[07:54] <zcat[1]> alraune: apparently my soundcards aren't cheap then.. or so cheap that they don't..
[07:54] <wols> Takmadeu1: this is an english channel only
[07:54] <joejoecircusboy> FuRom: Xbox 1 controllers are cheap!
[07:54] <SigmaProjects> joejoecircusboy:  yeah, I figured thats the reason its broken, thats why im trying to uninstall it
[07:54] <Takmadeu1> wols: sorry :p
[07:54] <Takmadeu1> anyway+
[07:54] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: Ah, good to mention that sort of thing up front :)
[07:54] <Takmadeu1> I ask again
[07:54] <FuRom> joejoecircusboy, I plan on getting the entire xbox 360 eventually, anyways.
[07:54] <willfrand> Thanks prince_jammys, but to this hour, is nobody in this channels
[07:54] <SigmaProjects> joejoecircusboy:  ah sorry
[07:54] <zcat[1]> I'll get a USB stick someday.. playing flightgear with keyboard only is basically impossible.
[07:54] <alraune> ﻿ zcat[1]: where are you located ? look at  the trashground!
[07:55] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: might have to resort to force uninstalling that package
[07:55] <prince_jammys> willfrand: you seem to speak english fairly well
[07:55] <Takmadeu1> has anyone any idea on how to get a PSX -> parallel port adapter working in ubuntu?
[07:55] <wols> SigmaProjects: edit the prerm and postrm files for the package
[07:55] <willfrand> then i need to solvve my problem any manner
[07:55] <Takmadeu1> zcat[1]: it is possible, yet quite difficult :p
[07:55] <crashflow> it is possible to use a wireless xbox 360 controller in ubuntu?
[07:55] <willfrand> thanks prince
[07:55] <SigmaProjects> wols: Sorry?  Where are those and what do I edit?
[07:55] <zcat[1]> Takmadeu1: I managed to take off. It's not totally impossible! Just really, really hard..
[07:55] <Takmadeu1> crashflow: yes
[07:56] <zcat[1]> Oops, ot again.
[07:56] <linuxdominator> Takmadeu1: first hit on google for your exact question http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=211108
[07:56] <willfrand> i today install the ubuntu 7.10 gutsy
[07:56] <wols> in /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[07:56] <joejoecircusboy> crashflow: No, unfortunately
[07:56] <willfrand> in my laptop, but the amsn no connect
[07:56] <SigmaProjects> joejoecircusboy: From the way you state that, is something wrong about force uninstalling?
[07:56] <Takmadeu1> zcat[1]: try landing, its harder :p
[07:56] <crashflow> Takmadeu1, so you know where can I read a FAQ about drivers etc?
[07:56] <wols> SigmaProjects: no but there is something wrong with using alien
[07:56] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: Ya, using --force almost always leads to worse problems ;)
[07:57] <SigmaProjects> wols:  yeah, im noticing that now.. never trying that again
[07:57] <willfrand> can you help me prince?
[07:57] <prince_jammys> willfrand: i don't know amsn, but if you message me the problem in spanish, i can post it in the channel in english.
[07:57] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: But, given that this isn't a core package (or a package that anything else would depend on at all), you'll probably be ok
[07:57] <willfrand> ok, thanks
[07:57] <crashflow> I plan to use the controller for c64 and amiga emulators, just as I did under windows. But I could not resist deleting windows from my system completely so know it has to be under linux :)
[07:57] <Takmadeu1> crashflow: TLDP
[07:58] <crashflow> Takmadeu1, thanks
[07:58] <Takmadeu1> linuxdominator: that's for USB adapters :(
[07:58] <Takmadeu1> crashflow: np man
[07:58] <linuxdominator> u dont have usb? Takmadeu1
[07:58] <wols> willfrand: you will need amsn 0.97-2 iirc
[07:58] <willfrand> el problema es que instalé el ubuntu 7.10 gutsy en mi laptop, pero el amsn (que es una imitacion muy conocida del messenger de microsoft) no me funciona
[07:58] <Takmadeu1> linuxdominator: unfortunately I haven't got a usb adapter, just an old parallel port adapter :(
[07:58] <linuxdominator> Takmadeu1: second hit on google http://www.stepmania.com/wiki/PlayStation_to_Parallel_Adapters
[07:59] <jemtv> wols, sorry, im going through and trying it all again, if there is a .pl file i need to go in an edit in terminal how do i get to it to do it
[07:59] <Lithium_Ionic> cmX1: Error 17 generally refers to bad references in your device map. Post 9 here looks helpful: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[07:59] <wols> willfrand: don't. and if you want help in spanish, go to #ubuntu-es. if no one's there ask the spanish speakers in here to help you over there. this channel here is english ONLY
[07:59] <willfrand> well wols, but how to install this amsn, but to me is impossible
[07:59] <prince_jammys> willfrand: i meant private message. anyway, you have to say more than 'it doesn't work'
[07:59] <wols> jemtv: do what?
[07:59] <wols> jemtv: ie trying what again?
[07:59] <Takmadeu1> linuxdominator: you are the man! ;)
[08:00] <willfrand> yes wols, but, how to tell to prince, in the spanish rooms, is nobody
[08:00] <Takmadeu1> linuxdominator: I'll try it right away
[08:00] <prince_jammys> willfrand: /join #asmnchan  if you can't message me because of registration
[08:00] <jemtv> Edit the Make.config file and make sure saa7134-dvb = n is changed to saa7134-dvb = m (builds the dvb part as a module) trying to go through and checkwhat ive done maybe ive made a spelling error or someting
[08:00] <jemtv> the file is saa7134-dvb.pl
[08:00] <SigmaProjects> joejoecircusboy:  whats the proper syntax for uninstalling and forcing ?
[08:00] <jemtv> that i have to open
[08:00] <wols> willfrand: we don't care. tell prince and Takmadeu1 or whever wants to help you to do it in #ubuntu-es but don't talk any spanish in here please
[08:00] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: I don't know offhand, never used it
[08:00] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: let me check
[08:01] <exsanet> oi
[08:01] <Takmadeu1> heh! did you know that in pidgin if you press tab twice it will autocomplete the name of the recipient?
[08:01] <wols> jemtv: make.config file for WHAT exactly?
[08:01] <Takmadeu1> i didn't know that :p
[08:01] <Takmadeu1> silly me
[08:01] <willfrand> hello
[08:01] <linuxdominator> poor you ;)
[08:02] <jemtv> one of the files i have to edit to get the tv tuner working properly is the saa7134-dvb.pl but i cant remember in terminal how to get into it to edit it
[08:02] <Takmadeu1> wow. my gamepad is really old :p
[08:02] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: It doesn't look like dpkg actually supports force
[08:02] <exsanet> ad org
[08:03] <Takmadeu1> Error inserting gamecon (/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/drivers/input/joystick/gamecon.ko): Device or resource busy
[08:03] <Takmadeu1> :(
[08:03] <exsanet> alo
[08:03] <wols> joejoecircusboy: it does. but doing it is a) probably not gonna work and b) maybe a very bad idea
[08:03] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: oh, hang on.. found it
[08:03] <joejoecircusboy> wols: Can you walk him through editting the scripts?
[08:03] <Takmadeu1> sucess! for now
[08:03] <wols> joejoecircusboy: answer my question
[08:04] <joejoecircusboy> wols: you didn't ask a question
[08:04] <wols> oops. was for jemtv, sorry
[08:04] <wols> jemtv: I asked you something
[08:04] <joejoecircusboy> lol
[08:04] <zcat[1]> joejoecircusboy: it supports -force-thing (where thing is the action to be forced) -- makes it hard, ou really need to know exactly what you're forcing. Which is probably the point
[08:04] <jemtv> oh ill check
[08:04] <wols> zcat[1]: there is no -force thing btw
[08:04] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: Thanks
[08:05] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: So, the dpkg experts are saying this is a bad idea... so I'll leave that call up to you
[08:05] <fyrestrtr> jemtv: sudo find / -type f -name 'saa7134-dvb.pl'
[08:05] <jemtv> for the saa7134 file that it says to edit
[08:05] <zcat[1]> wols: eg -force-confold or -force-remove-reinstreq
[08:05] <SigmaProjects> Well, if thats the only option then I'll try it
[08:05] <wols> jemtv: I asked you what software you try to compile exactly. nothing about the file
[08:06] <jemtv> i didnt get that
[08:06] <jemtv> wols, mythtv
[08:06] <wols> jemtv: the ubuntu mythtv package is telling you to do that?
[08:06] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: k, I'll look up the syntax for you then
[08:07] <wols> zcat[1]: read the manpages more carefully. there is no "-force-*"
[08:07] <zcat[1]> --force-* then..
[08:07] <jemtv> wols yes
[08:07] <fyrestrtr> generally, if the option is more than one character, it is preceded by --
[08:07] <wols> zcat[1]: and of course there is --force-all.... enable ALL force options
[08:07] <zcat[1]> wols: I didn't find that one. Too easy!
[08:08] <wols> jemtv: nano <file> to edit
[08:08] <jemtv> thankyou wols
[08:08] <SigmaProjects> I tried dpkg --force-all --remove vmware-server.  But it gives me the same error as before
[08:08] <sunru> searching for a package?
[08:08]  * wols wonders why people never listens
[08:08] <wols> sunru: installed package or one in repos?
[08:09] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: hmm
[08:09] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: I guess that leaves hacking the package scripts
[08:09] <Takmadeu1> ok. now
[08:09] <sunru> don't know just intalled ubuntu-server want to install cups.
[08:09] <Takmadeu1> it worked
[08:09]  * sunru is noob
[08:09] <Takmadeu1> but no dualshock
[08:09] <wols> pastebin the postrm and prerm files for vmware server please
[08:09] <wols> !cups | sunru
[08:09] <sunru> I used debian years ago forgot everthing.
[08:09] <sunru> thanks.
[08:09] <rafael_U8> How could I change a icon by command line?
[08:09] <SigmaProjects> wols:  Sure, where are those files usually?
[08:09] <wols> SigmaProjects: scroll up. I told you already
[08:10] <zcat[1]> rafael_U8: edit the .desktop file
[08:10] <sunru> wols: don't need help with cups been using it for years.
[08:11] <sunru> apt-get install cups or cupsd doesn't workfor me thats all.
[08:11] <zcat[1]> rafael_U8: launchers on the desktop or in menus generally have a file called foo.desktop which describes where they belong, what icon to show, what command to run, etc.. you ned to find that and edit it.
[08:11] <zcat[1]> s/ned/need
[08:11] <wols> !errors | sunru
[08:11] <wols> sunru: apt-cache searc <stuff>
[08:12] <sunru> thanks.
[08:12] <wols> apt-cache search  rather
[08:12] <sunru> awesome thanks.
[08:12] <zcat[1]> last couple of printers I've had I just plugged in and waited. after about 20 seconds a bubble popped up telling me the printer was ready to go...
[08:13] <deever> i have a epson stylus photo r200 and on one box with 8.04, i can print, while on another, it doesn't work...
[08:14] <Takmadeu1> GOOD!
[08:14] <SigmaProjects> wols: I saw where you said, /var/lib/dpkg/info/ .  But i swear those files arent in there
[08:14] <rafael_U8>  <zcat[1]>, I created "ln /sbin/reboot ~/reboot". So, how change the icon of "reboot"?
[08:14] <zcat[1]> Unfortunately I have two really nice photo printers I got given and neither has any black coming through. I suspect there's an airlock but they're going to be a pain to open up and bleed the ink line
[08:14] <Takmadeu1> Now I managed to get it working
[08:14] <wols> !doesn't work | deever
[08:14] <sunru> nice actually for a change to search a package search nearly 10x faster on a celeron 533 than emerge on amd 3500+
[08:14] <Takmadeu1> I was using the 0.8 parameter
[08:14] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: they'd be prefixed with 'vmware-server'
[08:14] <acrousey> ﻿hi, i'm trying to add the game "gLife" from "Add/Remove Applications" but I am told that I can't and need to go to "synaptic package manager". So I go there and I find out that the game that I wish to add is dependent on the files "libglade-gnome0" and "libglade0", which are both uninstallable. Why am I theoretically able to "add" this game if the files that it depends on are not installable?
[08:14] <Takmadeu1> when i needed 0.7
[08:14] <wols> SigmaProjects: ls *vmware* in there
[08:14] <SigmaProjects> Oh oh, ok
[08:14] <acp_> can any one direct me to a how to to fixed the volume of my thinclient?
[08:14] <zcat[1]> rafael_U8: don't do it that way. create a 'reboot.desktop' with the appropriate stuff in it instead
[08:15] <wols> !errors | acp_
[08:15] <deever> ubottu:
[08:15] <deever> I [09/Aug/2008:09:01:04 +0200] [Job 3] Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb (PID 21760)
[08:15] <wols> acrousey: apt-cache policy <packagename>  in your case probablg gLife
[08:15] <deever> I [09/Aug/2008:09:01:04 +0200] [Job 2] Canceled by "deever".
[08:16] <SigmaProjects> wols: postrm is http://pastebin.com/d592bf12e and prerm is  http://pastebin.com/d69a1c29
[08:16] <wols> !pastebin | deever
[08:16] <deever> no error messages in the logs
[08:16] <ackbahr> Hi! I'm looking for a program that could deal with music *folders* the way Synaptic deals with packages (with a reference list where things are ticked if they're on the MP3 player, and you could make your selection and then validate so that the copies and deletions take place). Any idea about that?
[08:16] <zcat[1]> rafael_U8: I don't think you can change the icon for a soft-link.
[08:16] <deever> oh, a bot! ;)
[08:16] <wols> SigmaProjects: 2nd line for each: exit 0
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> ackbahr: not sure what you mean, but exaile has great music management
[08:17] <wols> deever: is the same proper driver installed?
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> ackbahr: give it a try.
[08:17] <rafael_U8>  <zcat[1]>, I just do it by graphic mode, I would like do it by command line
[08:17] <ackbahr> fyrestrtr: I'll do, thanks!
[08:18] <gnub> I just setup a chrooted bind but now when I do "sudo nano /etc/bind/named.conf.local nothing happens
[08:18] <gnub> It doesnt error it just does nothing and goes back to a prompt
[08:18] <SigmaProjects> wols:  just to make sure, on the second line of each file insert "exit 0" uncommented? (and without quotes)
[08:18] <gnub> Is there something I need to do to edit it?
[08:18] <deever> wols: http://rafb.net/p/modQb562.html
[08:18] <zcat[1]> rafael_U8: find an existing .desktop file, copy it to where you want, then edit it to do what you want. I make menu entries and desktop shortcuts from scripts this wall frequently
[08:18] <zcat[1]> *way
[08:18] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: By itself (i.e. make a new second line)
[08:18] <sunru> is anyone with internode.on.net? I want to use their mirror, do I have to apt-get update when I add a new url to sources.list?
[08:19] <SigmaProjects> Got it
[08:19] <pfoxsounds> hey all, need recommendation on best way to set up a fresh 250 GB drive with Ubuntu 8/Win XP partitions.
[08:20] <acrousey> wols: what do i do after the apt-cach policy thing?
[08:20] <zcat[1]> pfoxsounds: 20 G root, 226G /home, 4G swap ?
[08:20] <Delano> Hi... I have Ubuntu 8.04 running gnome and KDE, but now suddenly for no reason gnome does not want to work correct... I log into it but all my bars are missing and I can't get it back... any ideas of how I can reset it?
[08:20] <wols> acrousey: tell us what it said
[08:20] <zcat[1]> .. and run windows in virtualbox... ;)
[08:20] <goodbyegravity_> zcat[1]: Does setting /boot to ext2 help with bootup time?
[08:20] <deever> wols: how can i find that out? i for me did nothing different on the second box, just plugged in the printer, as it has worked on the first box...
[08:20] <moDumass> trying to access webdisk from konqueror i get this - An unexpected error (200) occurred while attempting to create the requested folder.
[08:21] <pfoxsounds> zcat: :) you don't use windows much I guess
[08:21] <acrousey> !pastebin
[08:21] <acp_> my problem is that my workstation in my ltsp setup using 8.04.1 has a very low volume even if my server is in max volume
[08:21] <moDumass> is that a write protrwection error
[08:21] <wols> deever: dunno :(. localhost:631 perhaps
[08:21] <joejoecircusboy> pfoxsounds: sda1 - 512 MB /boot, sda2 - 512 MB <swap>, sda3 125 GB /, sda4 remainder for Windows
[08:21] <zcat[1]> goodbyegravity_: not as far as I know... that part of he boot sequence is really minimal.. most of the boot time is init
[08:21] <goodbyegravity_> Ah.
[08:21] <deever> wols: well, the printer is recognized
[08:21] <Delano> Hi... I have Ubuntu 8.04 running gnome and KDE, but now suddenly for no reason gnome does not want to work correct... I log into it but all my bars are missing and I can't get it back... any ideas of how I can reset it?
[08:22] <SigmaProjects> joejoecircusboy - wols : I saved both files they have the exit 0 now.  Should I try purge it with dpkg ?
[08:22] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: sure
[08:22] <Hamled> what's a good application for creating a video DVD?
[08:22] <acrousey> wols: http://paste.ubuntu.com/35794/
[08:22] <joejoecircusboy> gnub: the chroot bind is in /var/chroot or something
[08:23] <pfoxsounds> thx joejoecircusboy
[08:23] <joejoecircusboy> gnub: I just create symlinks in /etc that point into the chroot
[08:23] <zcat[1]> 512M boot.. hmm. My first Linux install the whole drive was only 30M IIRC.
[08:23] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: hehe, ya, I remember compiling the kernel on a 386 w/ 4 MB of ram
[08:24] <zcat[1]> joejoecircusboy: I tried to do it in 2M .. gave up after three days .. 4M was doable.
[08:24] <jazzkutya> my first linux ruined my dos partition... :)
[08:24] <wols> acrousey: gutsy has the packages you need. universeis not really supported, you know?
[08:24] <acrousey> oh
[08:24] <acrousey> thanks man
[08:24] <SigmaProjects> joejoecircusboy & wols: thank you guys so much
[08:24] <joejoecircusboy> SigmaProjects: no prob
[08:25] <schwing> ubuntu nvidia = horrible video tearing
[08:25] <schwing> anyone else agree?
[08:25] <fib1908> yeah
[08:25] <joejoecircusboy> schwing: in what, flash?
[08:25] <schwing> yes
[08:25] <gnub> joejoecircusboy, I will give that a try thanks
[08:25] <joejoecircusboy> schwing: flash bug, not nvidia
[08:25] <schwing> really ok
[08:25] <wols> SigmaProjects: is it gone now?
[08:25] <XGas> lol.
[08:25] <fib1908> hmm..
[08:25] <XGas> gotta love false accusations.
[08:25] <Hamled> are there any "official" ubuntu packages for creating a video dvd?
[08:25] <schwing> is that a know issue or just one of those random bugs
[08:26] <wols> !dvd | Hamled
[08:26] <joejoecircusboy> schwing: Ironically, flash video plays far better inside a vm running on linux, that it does directly on linux :)
[08:26] <schwing> *known
[08:26] <schwing> ...>.<
[08:26] <joejoecircusboy> schwing: the shittiness of flash is well know :D
[08:26] <zcat[1]> joejoecircusboy: not that it matters .. both flash and nvidia are nonfree software, therefore if either has bugs it's not something we can really do jack about...
[08:26] <joejoecircusboy> zcat[1]: the flash bug affects all video cards, AFAIK
[08:26] <Hamled> wols, err... thanks but unfortunately it doesn't look like those cover my question :(
[08:27] <christian_> h5
[08:27] <christian_> hi
[08:27] <schwing> is there any plugin besides adobes flash to use to correct that?
[08:27] <joejoecircusboy> schwing: (in all seriousness, yes, it's a well known bug... old versions of flash play fine, if you're willing to downgrade)
[08:27] <deever> anyone here who brought a epson stylus photo r200 to work under 8.04? under localhost:631/printers/ it is listed, but can't print anything and there are no errors in the logs...
[08:27] <christian_> anybody speak spanish[08:27] <deever> christian_: yes
[08:27] <wols> !es | christian_
[08:28] <christian_> i need help but in spanish
[08:28] <christian_> ah, ok
[08:28] <zcat[1]> Hmmm.. stallman talk this month, I should probablr remove all the nonfree components from my lappy out of respect. I can live without flash anyhow and I have an external wifi dongle that uses only free software. I could get by ;)
[08:28] <joejoecircusboy> schwing: Choices are limited for flash playback, unfortunately... The OSS players/plugins are not really production-ready yet
[08:28] <christian_> I'm novel in ubuntu, sorry
[08:28] <deever> christian_: it's one of the most widely used languages in the world...;)
[08:28] <goodbyegravity_> zcat[1]: You might want to basically stop using your computer entirely, too, if you want to show him that much reverence.  :P
[08:29] <schwing> sorry i am new to this whole linux gui system... i run a few boxes as servers but I just finally switched over for desktop use... so i am sad now :'(
[08:29] <joejoecircusboy> Stallman is slightly insane, IMO
[08:29] <zcat[1]> goodbyegravity_: well, I don't think the bios is free.. so yeah...;)
[08:29] <christian_> Yes, I understand
[08:29] <goodbyegravity_> zcat[1]: I think he stated in an interview that he hardly uses his home computer
[08:29] <jcoe> can someone help with graphics card issue?
[08:29] <pfoxsounds> do you guys know if I decide to ditch windows XP in favor of Ubuntu, can I repartition over it?
[08:29] <goodbyegravity_> I would too if I were a Linuxbeard
[08:29] <wols> !ask | jcoe
[08:30] <schwing> ubuntu is great if you dont feel like watching hulu in full screen :'(
[08:30] <zcat[1]> My wife says if he had some big curly horns on his head he's look like a Gnu too.
[08:30] <pfoxsounds> or the other way around: If I wanted to ditch ubuntu in favor of XP, can I repartition over it?
[08:30] <wols> pfoxsounds: what do you mean?
[08:30] <crashflow> how can I playback realmedia? I tried mplayer but that does not work.
[08:30] <joejoecircusboy> schwing: ya, it sucks. I think you can work around it though (search the Ubuntu forums)... It hasn't bothered me personally enough to fix it
[08:30] <schwing> helix?
[08:30] <goodbyegravity_> pfoxsounds: Yes, in the Windows installer, you can select your Linux partitions and hit "L" to delete them.
[08:30] <wols> pfoxsounds: you can simply reformat the partition or just delete it altogether
[08:30] <pfoxsounds> If I partition my fresh HD to boot both, but decide later I want to only have one OS?
[08:30] <roxygirl> anyone familiear with tinyerp/openerp?
[08:30] <deever> schwing: hulu?
[08:31] <schwing> hulu.com
[08:31] <goodbyegravity_> Hulu = awesome, to a point.
[08:31] <schwing> check it, it is nice
[08:31] <wols> !anyone | roxygirl
[08:31] <pfoxsounds> thx goodbyegravity/wols
[08:31] <hung_> hello
[08:31] <joejoecircusboy> schwing: If you can download the swf, you can play it in vlc/totem.... it's the the Adobe browser plugin that is faulty
[08:31] <pfoxsounds> mainly I want to keep from having to reinstall whatever OS I go with after having both on the same HD
[08:31] <crashflow> pfoxsounds, you could use partition magic to delete the linux partitions and allocate the space to the windows partition. but I would recommend doing it the other way round.
[08:31] <goodbyegravity_> I wouldn't recommend Partition Magic
[08:31] <jcoe> What does the message "GNOME settings daemon" error refer to?
[08:32] <pfoxsounds> Can't I just use windows util to do it?
[08:32] <goodbyegravity_> It's oldddd, and it's borked many partition tables.
[08:32] <fib1908> "Hello geeks what is an xserver ?"
[08:32] <wols> pfoxsounds: no. does not exist. and windows questions: #windows
[08:32] <fib1908> Please help!!
[08:32] <roxygirl> tinyerp crashes upon attempts to start application, any fix ideas?
[08:32] <goodbyegravity_> pfoxsounds: No; you can't resize your mounted root disk, and you can't do it easily.
[08:32] <goodbyegravity_> easily in the bootup process*
[08:32] <wols> fib1908: this is a ubuntu support channel. state your ubuntu related support problem
[08:32] <zcat[1]> hanyhow... enough being offtopic, I have a question. likewise-open seems to be totally broken. Has anybody got it working in Ubuntu beyond just registering on a windows domain? Like handling logins and letting the server set policy?
[08:33] <wols> !errors | roxygirl
[08:33] <fib1908> ohh fine wols
[08:33] <schwing> i have tried to use the vsync and Vblank fix but it still has horrible tears in it
[08:33] <joejoecircusboy> pfoxsounds: realistically speaking, your going to want to keep your Windows install around for awhile if you're new to linux (and use your computer for anything beyond email and browsing)
[08:33] <tOto> Hello, i need some help... My graphic card make noise with the fan... Im on the live session
[08:33] <pfoxsounds> yeah but can't you just boot off the ubuntu disc and partition with the util on that?
[08:33] <fib1908> I'm new here wols
[08:33] <rafael_U8>  <zcat[1]>, thankś
[08:33] <wols> pfoxsounds: you can
[08:33] <fib1908> new to IRC :P wols
[08:33] <fib1908> may I pm u wols?
[08:33] <wols> no
[08:33] <jcoe> ﻿What does the message "GNOME settings daemon" error refer to?
[08:34] <fib1908> Ok sorry wols
[08:34] <wols> jcoe: what makes you think it's an error?
[08:34] <fib1908> :)
[08:34] <goodbyegravity_> jcoe: gnome-settings-daemon loads a lot of GNOME user settings.
[08:34] <roxygirl> ubottu: i have no idea what the error is...
[08:34] <wols> jcoe: it's the name of a program
[08:34] <debCarlos> hi :)
[08:34] <joejoecircusboy> jcoe: on login? Your icons are messed up?
[08:34] <goodbyegravity_> loads/maintains
[08:34] <zcat[1]> hmmmm.. afkbrbttfn got to do the dishes
[08:34] <crashflow> joejoecircusboy, I did the same and used both for a while. allocating the space back to windows posed no problem, and I reformatted the hard disk when I swithced to unix. but partition magic did the job for me (regarding partition resizing)
[08:35] <roxygirl> ubottu: how do i figure out what the error is?
[08:35] <jcoe> no... i changed monitors from regular to a Benq flat screen, ever since i've had issues. installed nvidia-settings from symantic and ever since - had the white screen of death
[08:35] <goodbyegravity_> Even the bot is smug.
[08:35] <deeporange1> I am very new to linux and I am wanting to install testdisk. I have found the testdisk wiki here: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download.
[08:35] <deeporange1> I have the Latest Ubuntu 8.04.1 AMD 64 desktop edition. Which of the files listed in the link abouve should I download and install?
[08:35] <fib1908> My ubuntu problem is -->I'm unable to fix my screen resolution to 1024x768 even if I used su displayconfig-gtk I'm unable to check the drivers for  device I'm currently running on (Compaq Presario S4030IL)
[08:35] <wols> !info testdisk
[08:36] <wols> deeporange1: this one. the ubuntu package
[08:36] <deeporange1> !info testdisk?
[08:36] <pfoxsounds> So as far as dual boot WinXP/Ubuntu goes, can both OS read/write to any common partitions?
[08:36] <wols> !info testdisk | deeporange1
[08:36] <joejoecircusboy> crashflow: Cool, I wasn't saying it wasn't possible.. just saying, practically speaking he wouldn't need to worry about it for awhile
[08:36] <wols> pfoxsounds: no
[08:36] <crashflow> goodbyegravity_, but a description of problem symptoms is a necessity
[08:36] <deeporange1> Is that something I should type into the command prompt?
[08:36] <goodbyegravity_> pfoxsounds: Linux can write to NTFS, but AFAIK Windows only has read-only third-party apps.
[08:36] <wols> pfoxsounds: both can write and read from FAT. ntfs and ext3 are harder
[08:37] <schwing> sorry for another question, but does anyone on here roll with eclipse with the radrails addon?
[08:37] <wols> deeporange1: no, you should install software like you usually install it on ubuntu. in this case, testdisk
[08:37] <moDumass> hey all, um ive run into a bit of a predicament, it seems my desktop has run out of space, or my user has
[08:37] <crashflow> joejoecircusboy, I think I just misunderstood you
[08:37] <moDumass> how do i fix this
[08:37] <debCarlos>  deeporange1: In the command prompt just put: sudo aptitude install testdisk
[08:37] <wols> !anyone | schwing
[08:37] <moDumass> i have like 160gigs free on this hdd
[08:37] <eitreach> How do I make Pessulus require root?
[08:37] <goodbyegravity_> crashflow: I know, but I'm not a fan of the atmosphere of this channel in general :)
[08:37] <joejoecircusboy> pfoxsounds: ntfs support is pretty solid in Ubuntu now... I wouldn't bother with FAT
[08:37] <Flannel> eitreach: Why do you want to do that?
[08:37] <deeporange1> Thanks debCarlos
[08:37] <debCarlos> ok
[08:38] <wols> goodbyegravity_: there are ext3 r/w drivers. how good they are I let you decide...
[08:38] <schwing> !anyone
[08:38] <schwing> gasp
[08:38] <RedMercury> what is the best channel to ask Xlib related questions in?
[08:38] <eitreach> Flannel: it's a kiosk-tool. If anyone can access it, it sort of ruins the entire thing.
[08:38] <pfoxsounds> Thx
[08:38] <deeporange1> I am curious what does !x | y mean?
[08:38] <schwing> irc scares me
[08:38] <goodbyegravity_> wols: Ah, I've never used it; I know there is a program called explore2fs that lets you at least transfer files.
[08:38] <wols> deeporange1: tell person y about topic x
[08:39] <Flannel> eitreach: You probably don't want it runnin as root, but you can set up "regular" permission things (making it so it can only be run by a certain group of users, for instance)
[08:39] <crashflow> joejoecircusboy, yes I guess general help and info channels always have this atmosphere... but it's nowhere I would log in if I did not have questions to ask
[08:39] <deeporange1> So why would I tell testdisk about info?
[08:39] <eitreach> Flannel: right.. how do I do that?
[08:39] <deeporange1> Thats a curious syntax
[08:39] <wols> deeporange1: you don't. the x is the whole "info testdisk" thing
[08:39] <deeporange1> info testdisk
[08:39] <wols> deeporange1: it's standard unix pipe syntax. known to every unix user
[08:40] <Blaqlight> I have screem and KompoZer, are there any other html/xml type website editors?
[08:40] <joejoecircusboy> crashflow: wrong person? (not sure I see the topic thread :) )
[08:40] <wols> deeporange1: the bot reacts to commands with ! in front. not just any word
[08:40] <deeporange1> ah... See thats the problem right there. I am on day two of using linux
[08:40] <Flannel> eitreach: Hmmm, actually, the group is already made.  change its group to 'admin'  and then remove execute rights from "anyone" (so only owner and group are +x)
[08:40] <deeporange1> Ah
[08:40] <deeporange1> !info testdisk
[08:40] <crashflow> joejoecircusboy, oops - wrong person
[08:40] <crashflow> I should get my morning coffee
[08:40] <deeporange1> nice
[08:40] <crashflow> :)
[08:40] <matze> ...
[08:40] <eitreach> Flannel: Thanks. I'll try that out.
[08:40] <o0splitpaw0o> join #o0splitpaw0o's-show
[08:41] <joejoecircusboy> crashflow: no worries.. but curious, what atmosphere do you mean?
[08:42] <crashflow> I was talking about the channel atmosphere with goodbyegravity. I think that in channels like this (general help) there is often a hectic atmosphere since many people logged in with problems and not all can be helped quickly
[08:43] <deeporange1> Well that went well
[08:43] <crashflow> that can create frustration for some... but I guess that's just a given fact
[08:43] <pfoxsounds> joejoe: When you say 512 /boot, is that root?
[08:43] <joejoecircusboy> pfoxsounds: the /boot partition, for kernels and stuff
[08:43] <Dr_willis> crashflow,  computers cause frustration.. :) faster ones cause it faster!
[08:43] <wols> pfoxsounds: / is root. nothing else
[08:44] <pfoxsounds> assumung i need root, home and swap partitions
[08:44] <deeporange1> Yeah, my advise to to panic. At maximum velocity!
[08:44] <deeporange1> Ha ha
[08:44] <crashflow> Dr_willis, :)
[08:44] <deeporange1> Computers are the / of all evil
[08:45] <pfoxsounds> OK. So the help.ubuntu.com page on partitioning for Ubuntu 8 says I should create root partition for where Ubuntu is installed
[08:45]  * TeslaTony thwaps deeporange1 with a 60lb Unix manual
[08:45] <joejoecircusboy> pfoxsounds: ya, that's the 125 GB / partiition I mentioned
[08:45] <pfoxsounds> and joejoe had suggested 512MB for "/boot"
[08:45] <pfoxsounds> ah OK
[08:45] <deeporange1> Ouch
[08:45] <deeporange1> I've had worse though
[08:45] <pfoxsounds> trying to compare your notes to what I'm reading on that page there :)
[08:45] <TeslaTony> deeporange1: Like what? 60lb Windows manuals?
[08:46] <joejoecircusboy> pfoxsounds: It's not really all that important really, everyone has their own partition prefs
[08:46] <pfoxsounds> so what do you use boot partition for?
[08:46] <deeporange1> No, 180lb Vista manuals
[08:46] <wols> pfoxsounds: kernels and bootloader
[08:46] <Flannel> pfoxsounds: the boot partition isn't really necessary for most circumstances.
[08:46] <delano> Hello?
[08:46] <deeporange1> Vista is ok though. But its darn easy to screw things up
[08:46] <deeporange1> Hello
[08:47] <pfoxsounds> OK, so in other words when I get better acquainted w/ ubuntu I'll probalby want to make a boot partition
[08:47] <joejoecircusboy> pfoxsounds: some older BIOSs can't load the bootloader/kernel when it's located deep within a disk (i won't get into details)... the solution is to create a /boot partition at the beginning of the disk
[08:47] <wols> pfoxsounds: no
[08:47] <pfoxsounds> but for a beginner not really needed
[08:47] <JamesJr> Um yall know that particile accelerator/collider that could produce black holes..they are testing it today and it will go fully functional in early september...nice knowing yall
[08:47] <Blaqlight> deeporange1, don't you think discussions about Vista should be moved to ##windows?
[08:47] <wols> !ot | JamesJr
[08:47] <deeporange1> That could just be me though... I seem to be really good at destroying windows machines.
[08:47] <pfoxsounds> ah ok. makes sense joe joe
[08:47] <deeporange1> I think they should be banned altogether
[08:48] <TeslaTony> Sucked into atomic oblivion via miniature black holes? Sweet!
[08:48] <joejoecircusboy> pfoxsounds: using /boot just avoids the problem (whether or not your computer actually has the 'broken' bios code)
[08:48] <wols> deeporange1: you should be banned if you continue to talk about windows. so please continue I guess
[08:48] <pfoxsounds> this is a pretty new PC so may not be an issue
[08:48] <Blaqlight> deeporange1, your barking up the wrong tree in here talking about windows. or anything else related to it.
[08:48] <deeporange1> I used to use Mandrake a long time ago... when it was called Mandrake... But that was so long ago I consider myself a newb.
[08:48] <pfoxsounds> so if I wanted to create that boot part., I would have an option to do it manually?
[08:49] <joejoecircusboy> pfoxsounds: You can skip it probably then, but if Linux won't boot after install, you know what to change for the reinstall
[08:49] <wols> pfoxsounds: yes
[08:49] <deeporange1> Well thats my story and I'm sticking to it.
[08:49] <Blaqlight> deeporange1, its called mandriva today :D
[08:49] <deeporange1> Yeah. I hear Ubuntu is the better of them though.
[08:49] <deeporange1> Linux that is
[08:49] <joejoecircusboy> deeporange1: depends on the system role
[08:49] <deeporange1> Thats why I decided to try it.
[08:49] <Blaqlight> deeporange1, its all about your expreiences...
[08:49] <deeporange1> I am sure you are right there.
[08:49] <xiven> Hey umm
[08:50] <deeporange1> Servers tend to run FreeBSD right?
[08:50] <xiven> Anyone know how to login to SWAT with Smba
[08:50] <debCarlos> Or debian
[08:50] <joejoecircusboy> deeporange1: no one uses BSD :P
[08:50] <xiven> I tried using root, but it gives me the logon again
[08:50] <ackbahr> fyrestrtr: Not exactly what I'm looking for.... Thanks though! So long!
[08:50] <ackbahr> Bye all!
[08:50] <deeporange1> Really? My hosting provider does I believe.
[08:50] <wols> xiven: there is no root account on ubuntu
[08:50] <deeporange1> Course they stink... But thats a different story
[08:50] <eitreach> Flannel: I tried editing the permissions via nautilus, but instead of being prompted for a password, it's simply not starting now. It's sort-of-progress, but.. yeah.
[08:50] <xiven> ohh duh
[08:51] <TeslaTony> deeporange1: Ubuntu has some major issues, but as a beginners/easy to use linux, itś very well supported. Plus you can come here and be abused with 60lb users manuals. Debian and Gentoo hold the titles for ¨most powerful distros¨
[08:51] <deeporange1> Seems you have to enable it.
[08:51] <TeslaTony> (and as a result are a real pain to use)
[08:51] <Blaqlight> joejoecircusboy, BSD is nice too...
[08:51] <xiven> Ahh I got it
[08:51] <wols> TeslaTony: debian is not "most powerful"
[08:51] <joejoecircusboy> deeporange1: I would guess most production servers are running Red Hat or Novell distros, and their derivatives
[08:51] <deeporange1> Ah. Well I may have to take a peek at those to sometime (when I feel really masochistic)
[08:51] <Blaqlight> joejoecircusboy, if you've have any experience with it that is.
[08:51] <Flannel> eitreach: What are the permsissions on the program? (ls -l /path/to/bin)
[08:52] <pfoxsounds> thanks for all the help folks
[08:52] <debCarlos> Why RedHat when there's debian and Ubuntu server :D
[08:52] <TeslaTony> wols: Last I checked, it was one of the big ones. This was, however, some time ago, so my info can easily be dated
[08:52] <debCarlos> *re
[08:52] <joejoecircusboy> Blaqlight: Ya, and prisoners get used to working in chain gangs after awhile too :P
[08:52] <wols> TeslaTony: I am using debian right now.
[08:52] <joejoecircusboy> pfoxsounds: np, good luck with it
[08:52] <bullgard4> [Gparted] What does indicate an orange triangle with an exclamation mark in it?
[08:52] <wols> TeslaTony: and size of repo has nothing to do with being "powerful"
[08:52] <vryk014k45> How do I make it so that vlc opens when I insert a dvd instead of xine?
[08:52] <Blaqlight> joejoecircusboy, BSD has the distinction of being older and more widely supported..
[08:53] <wols> Blaqlight: rethink that statement
[08:53] <joejoecircusboy> Blaqlight: widely supported? By what metric?
[08:53] <Blaqlight> yeah than ubuntu...
[08:53] <Blaqlight> not debian
[08:53] <eitreach> Flannel: -rwxr-x--x 1 root root 2620 2008-03-10 23:32
[08:53] <joejoecircusboy> Blaqlight: I was just kidding up until that last statement (BSD is fine).. but damn, I've never heard anyone claim its more supported (by any definition of 'supported' I can think of)
[08:54] <Blaqlight> ubuntu is much more documented, and perhaps easier to use.
[08:54] <ogzy> hi, how can i  disable battery warning actions
[08:54] <lboken> debcarlos your question is just like why windows when there is debian and ubuntu just cause people are used to it   more than the debian  ;-)  me i tryed latly  many  linux and i set up for ubuntu    but i must ad mit i was more a windows user   im still new to linux but i like  to learn it   :-)  and i do learn more about linux every day
[08:54] <Flannel> eitreach: Alright, its not owned by admin, and you need to remove the -x from "anyone"
[08:54] <TeslaTony> Ubuntu is rather well supported because itś a variant on Debian. BSD and BeOS are well supported for commercial use, but not so much end users (like you usually find here)
[08:54] <Blaqlight> either way, its all offtopic conversation, we'll get lyched :D
[08:54] <deeporange1> Well I guess I will let you Linux gurus discuss the complex universe of Linux... Try not to get heated. Good night and thanks all... Particularly DebCarlos
[08:55] <Flannel> eitreach: sudo chmod 750 /whatever/ && sudo chown root:admin /path/to/whatever
[08:55] <trevor> how do I make vlc instead of xine open when I insert dvd's?
[08:55] <joejoecircusboy> TeslaTony: Really, I didn't know any commercial vendors certified their apps on BSD
[08:55] <eitreach> Flannel: thanks!
[08:55] <TeslaTony> You can have a decent discussion about Linux distros unless itś an all out flamewar!
[08:55] <joejoecircusboy> TeslaTony: (That came across as sarcastic, but it was more of a question)
[08:55] <TeslaTony> s/can/can´t
[08:56] <Blaqlight> openbsd runs thousands of webservers worldwide...
[08:56] <Shujah> trevor, Nautilus > Edit > Pref > Media
[08:56] <Blaqlight> not so with ubuntu server...
[08:56] <TeslaTony> Oh, no. BSD is supported for commercial users, for stuff like servers. Not many apps for it
[08:56] <joejoecircusboy> Blaqlight: yes, literally thousands... whereas even Windows runs millions of servers worldwide
[08:57] <TeslaTony> BSD kinda sucks for end users because the lack of drivers/lack of software
[08:57] <joejoecircusboy> TeslaTony: What do you mean by 'commercial support' ? In that you can buy support for it?
[08:57] <TeslaTony> joejoecircusboy: Yeah. And I believe there are paid developers for it, unlike (for the most part) Linux
[08:57] <Blaqlight> joejoecircusboy, foolish people run together... what can I say...
[08:57] <lambently> How do I get WPA to show up in my list of Wireless Security options when connecting to a network (like this: http://www.debianadmin.com/images/wpa/4.png) without editing /etc/network/interfaces by hand?
[08:58] <joejoecircusboy> TeslaTony: Most of the core development work in Linux (the kernel, and the core applications) is done by paid developers
[08:58] <eitreach> Flannel: hmm.. I'm told that the path is not a directory.
[08:58] <Flannel> eitreach: sorry, no trailing slash
[08:58] <eitreach> ah.
[08:58] <Flannel> eitreach: /path/to/whatever for both
[08:58] <joejoecircusboy> TeslaTony: But anyway, that's not 'support' to me, that's development
[08:59] <joejoecircusboy> Blaqlight: This isn't a debate about one being 'better' than the other. You stated that BSD is better supported than linux (which doesn't make it better or worse, depending on  your needs). Its the support claim that I'm refuting... (that's so far from reality it's not even funny :) )
[09:00] <debCarlos> Anyway to switch between tabs in pidgin with the keyboard?
[09:01] <blaamann> debCarlos: Try Ctrl-Tab
[09:01] <TheClaff> debcarlos - ctrl + pg up, ctrl + pg down
[09:01] <debCarlos> blaamann: yep, it worked, thanks :)
[09:02] <joejoecircusboy> Blaqlight: Furthermore, that's pretty arrogant to lump all professionals using Windows in a group as 'fools'... right tool for the job.
[09:02] <lboken> guys does any one knows if there is a way to have the printer and scanner of a lexmark x74 working on linux? i know there is a printer driver compatible but how about the   scanner?
[09:02] <joejoecircusboy> Blaqlight: I love Linux, but it doesn't take a flash on insight for me to see it's not the best solution for everyone
[09:03] <joejoecircusboy> *of insight
[09:03] <Blaqlight> joejoecircusboy, it is if you write your own software, which of course wouldn't hurt others... so yeah
[09:03] <joejoecircusboy> Blaqlight: ?
[09:04] <asathoor> lboken >> do you see the scanner in xsane?
[09:04]  * Blaqlight drops it.
[09:04] <Blaqlight> where it shatters all over the floor.
[09:05] <lboken> xsane i didnt installed it yet thanks ill see it (like i sayed im still new so  there some package taht i didnt installed yet that i should
[09:05] <TeslaTony> lboken: Check http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-X74
[09:05] <joejoecircusboy> k, sorry to get intense -> Linux zealotry annoys me, it does far more harm to "linux" than good
[09:05] <redleer> !mount
[09:05] <lboken> ok ill check that teslatony but i think its a page that talk more about printing
[09:05] <asathoor> lboken >> try programs > graphics > xsane (or something similar, my setup is danish, :)
[09:06] <Blaqlight> joejoecircusboy, it doesn't, its good to have people passionate about one thing or anther, where else would people discuss the strengths and weaknesses of this or that.
[09:06] <asathoor> !scanner
[09:06] <debCarlos> !OCR
[09:06] <joejoecircusboy> Blaqlight: yeah, passion is good, zealotry is bad
[09:06] <lboken> yeah i see the programe now but i didnt installed my  printer on this pc since it didnt had  it installed yet  il  connectit  right away
[09:07] <Blaqlight> passionate people make for more stable products..
[09:07] <redleer> how do i mount hdd so i dont need to mount it again every time i restart my computer?
[09:07]  * TeslaTony can´t wait for the Salem MacOSX hunts
[09:07] <eitreach> let the passionate programmers program, and the not-as-much-in-your-face-marketing folks market.
[09:07] <Dr_willis> redleer,  put a proper entry for it in the /etc/fstab file
[09:07] <debCarlos> redleer: Add it to /etc/fstab
[09:07] <Blaqlight> redbox, add it too /etc/fstab.
[09:08] <joejoecircusboy> redleer: /etc/fstab contains a table of file systems that are mounted on boot
[09:08] <Blaqlight> lol
[09:08] <debCarlos> lol
[09:08] <Blaqlight> wrong person
[09:08] <rustychicken> eitreach: agreed
[09:08] <Blaqlight> I hope I didn't wake redbox up out of his/her slumber..
[09:08] <redleer> only copy that sdb1 file there?
[09:08] <asathoor> lboken >> try this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo
[09:09] <joejoecircusboy> redleer: I think 'man fstab' will give you a descriptin of the file format
[09:09] <debCarlos> !fstab | redleer
[09:09] <Blaqlight> eitreach, I know folks that are all in your face, and they only market well when they get in your face, you buy 9/10 times.
[09:09] <redleer> thanks
[09:10] <rustychicken> redleer: what i basically do is go through the GUI (Places > Computer > Hard drive) to mount the hard drive, then I copy the line from /etc/mtab (the list of currently mounted disks) into /etc/fstab (the list of all possible mounted disks)
[09:10] <Blaqlight> redleer, :D
[09:10] <joejoecircusboy> eitreach: Well said, techies/programmers make bad marketers... they should stick to programming
[09:11] <debCarlos> How do i start gnome-do
[09:11] <debCarlos> ?
[09:11] <rustychicken> debCarlos: ctrl+space, i think...
[09:11] <Blaqlight> lol there has never been a true er statement than that
[09:11] <Jordan_U> debCarlos: super + space
[09:11] <debCarlos> ok
[09:11] <debCarlos> thanks
[09:12] <lboken> start well    in what if  it says no devices available  there is the  no 1 Your scanner is not supported in Ubuntu. The most common type of scanner not supported is old parallel port or Lexmark All-in-One printer/scanner/faxes
[09:12] <rustychicken> debCarlos: Jordan_U is correct
[09:12] <lboken> and x74 x75 its a all in one
[09:12] <debCarlos> man!!! That  gnome-do is fantastic O.O !
[09:12] <rustychicken> debCarlos: it has its benefits...
[09:13] <eitreach> Flannel: hm. still doesn't require a password. -rwxr-x--- 1 root admin 2620 2008-03-10 23:32
[09:13] <rustychicken> does anybody know if timevault is still being developed?
[09:13] <Flannel> eitreach: It won't require a password, it just requires you to be in the admin group.
[09:13] <Flannel> eitreach: Presumably your other users wouldn't be in the admin group? (if they were, they'd be able to sudo anyway)
[09:13] <acp_> hi any one here have fixed the sound of a thinclient in ubuntu? my workstations has a low sound but my server is working fine
[09:14] <eitreach> Flannel: ah.. right. So i I create an unprivileged user, it wouldn't be able to access it?
[09:14] <Flannel> eitreach: Correct
[09:14] <eitreach> excellent. Thanks!
[09:14] <Flannel> eitreach: because ony root, or users in the admin group, are able to execute that file
[09:15] <eitreach> *nod* I get it, I think.
[09:15] <ubuntu_> How can i install anything on linux?pls help
[09:16] <DozedOnLinux> !install
[09:16] <ubuntu_> I am a new user
[09:16] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  'anything' is a big broad.. I normally use th package manager tools to install stuff from the repositories...
[09:17] <deever> anyone here who brought a epson stylus photo r200 to work under 8.04? under localhost:631/printers/ it is listed, but can't print anything and there are no errors in the logs...
[09:17] <ubuntu_> i want to install an external software
[09:17] <TeslaTony>  ubuntu_: what do you want to install?
[09:17] <alraune> ﻿ubuntu_:apps>system>adept/synaptig graphical paketmangaer, use the search function
[09:17] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿ubuntu_external meaning from cdrom ?
[09:17] <ubuntu_> ya
[09:17] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿ubuntu_ if it is for linux it should have the needed documentation on how to install it
[09:17] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  its all about the details of exactly WHAT you are trying to do/install..
[09:18] <ubuntu_> i want to install a software i got frm a cd.
[09:18] <lboken> well seems that  ill have to keep my  windows  for this printer
[09:18] <wols> ubuntu_: name the software
[09:18] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿ubuntu_ is the software made for linux ?
[09:18] <joejoecircusboy> ubuntu_: I'm guessin you won't be able to :)
[09:19] <ubuntu_> when  i type ./config,it detects an error in compiler
[09:19] <afallenhope> DozedOnLinux, huh?
[09:19] <wols> ubuntu_: exact error please.
[09:19] <MrNaz> can you back up the MBR? i have a dual boot setup where i want to install windows and then ubuntu on a laptop. win goes on first, then ubuntu which detects and sets up a boot loader. howeer, when i reinstall windows as needs to be done from time to time, the botloader is destroyed. how do i back up the boot loader config beforethe win installation so i can restore it after ive installed windows ?
[09:19] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿afallenhope:  is there something i may help you with ?
[09:20] <wols> !grub | MrNaz
[09:20] <afallenhope> anyone able to get webcam working in flash/firefox.. I've tried the webcam thing.. umm flash cam or what not
[09:20] <MrNaz> nice!
[09:20] <MrNaz> thanks
[09:20] <wols> MrNaz: you can back it up with dd, but the above way is better suited
[09:20] <joejoecircusboy> DozedOnLinux: I think he didn't realize 'Ubuntu' is a person in your previous statement
[09:20] <bullgard4> [Gparted] What does indicate an orange triangle with an exclamation mark in it?
[09:21] <afallenhope> joejoecircusboy, yes I do
[09:21] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿joejoecircusboy: i suppose possible
[09:21] <Dr_willis> afallenhope,  ive heard a lot of people asking in here 'trying' to get them going... but never heard of any doing it. :P
[09:21] <airspace> the only think stopping me from moving from Windows to Ubunu (as with many other people in South Africa) is that I cannot use my 3G phone as a Bluetooth modem
[09:21] <DozedOnLinux> why do i get this funny feeling, we are getting taken over by aliens ?
[09:22] <afallenhope> lol airspace iPhone/
[09:22] <airspace> nope
[09:22] <airspace> nokia
[09:22] <airspace> ubuntu can't access my phone
[09:22] <airspace> says the MAC is invalid
[09:22] <TeslaTony> airspace: Can you use it through a wired tether over USB? Sometimes that works when BlueTooth doesn´t
[09:23] <airspace> funny thing is if you go to the prompt and tell it to scan for DUN devices it shows my phones mac
[09:23] <airspace> that's not the point
[09:23] <airspace> I don't want to use it with USB
[09:23] <airspace> it has to be bluetooth
[09:23] <airspace> Windows does it simply
[09:23] <joejoecircusboy> airspace: tthat really annoys me too (in my case a blackberry pearl)
[09:23] <airspace> yip
[09:23] <airspace> quite sad
[09:24] <airspace> I was sold on linux until this snag
[09:24] <airspace> that's the only way I connect to internet
[09:24] <luser^> Heya
[09:24] <joejoecircusboy> airspace: I never did solve it (it's like the DUN profile isn't exposed when a Linux bluetooth stack is probing)
[09:24] <airspace> so ubuntu is out the window now
[09:24] <DozedOnLinux> well you can get them to release to code to open-source developers
[09:24] <luser^> Can someone help me connect my laptop to the TV
[09:24] <luser^> using s-video cable
[09:24] <joejoecircusboy> airspace: btw, you did do a scan from linux, right?
[09:24] <luser^> I looked around in google.. nothing seems to work
[09:24] <airspace> yip
[09:24] <joejoecircusboy> airspace: which commnd?
[09:24] <Lunks_> What does this cron line means? #30 8*/1 * * 2
[09:25] <luser^> anyone done that ?
[09:25] <airspace> linux finds the MAC and all the channels and details when I can from the console
[09:25] <afallenhope> aparently my issue is that the newest Flash 9 only supports v4l and not v4l2
[09:25] <airspace> then in linux when I try to connect it tells me my MAC is invalid
[09:25] <airspace> but it's the one that it told me it found
[09:25] <joejoecircusboy> airspace: can you pastebin the output of your bt scan?
[09:25] <airspace> haha
[09:25] <airspace> no
[09:25] <joejoecircusboy> airspace: in windows?
[09:25] <airspace> cos I can't connect to internet frmo within linux duh
[09:25] <airspace> it's some obex error
[09:25] <Detrix> hey DozedOnLinux, I am back. I have installed Ubuntu on my laptop's hard drive. what is the default root password?
[09:25] <joejoecircusboy> airspace: ah, you only have the one compter
[09:26] <DozedOnLinux> afallenhope: what linux kernel you running ?
[09:26] <airspace> says something like obex: <MAC> device invalid
[09:26] <afallenhope> ummm
[09:26] <afallenhope> hold up
[09:26] <joejoecircusboy> airspace: well, can't really help you then
[09:26] <afallenhope> DozedOnLinux, 2.6.24-19-generic
[09:26] <DozedOnLinux> now i f i tod you that, the whole thing about security would be out the window :)
[09:26] <Dr_willis> Detrix,  there is none. Use 'sudo' and the initial users password to do sudo tasks
[09:26] <lboken> detrix there is no root password  its a sudo (super user do)
[09:26] <airspace> yip
[09:26] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿afallenhope: ok, just checkin
[09:27] <afallenhope> DozedOnLinux, why
[09:27] <Detrix> thats what I thought
[09:27] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿afallenhope: long story, short answer
[09:27] <airspace> sad thing is that if you want to get ubuntu to Africa you should bear in mind that about 70 to 80% of africa will connect to internet using their cellphone networks so a Bluetooth cellphone modem is a must - simple as that
[09:27] <afallenhope> DozedOnLinux, I like stories :D
[09:27] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Detrix: you do have a root password do you not ?
[09:28] <Detrix> I have the one for my initial account to sudo with, yes
[09:28] <joejoecircusboy> airspace: It does work (i've used it).. but it is tricky...
[09:28] <DozedOnLinux> ﻿Detrix: then you should do just fine with that
[09:28] <joejoecircusboy> airspace: but agreed, they need to improve that for sure
[09:29] <lboken> well   airspace its somthing you should write to ubuntu for the  thing to be added
[09:29] <DozedOnLinux> gtg
[09:29] <lboken> bye dozedlinux
[09:29] <bazhang> !brainstorm
[09:29] <bazhang> put it there
[09:29] <cypherdelic> How to load "nvidia -l" before XServer, I want to have Antialiased XServer.
[09:29] <Detrix> I was trying to edit the boot menu order through the gnome GUI and needed to S
[09:29] <Detrix> sudu
[09:29] <Detrix> sudo
[09:30] <joejoecircusboy> lboken: Ubuntu should poll for this sort of thing... no new user is going to take the time to provide suggestions for improvement to a product they've given up on
[09:30] <TeslaTony> airspace: You might try browsing ubuntuforums.org and possibly posting your problem there. They take longer to solve problems than here, but they tend to be very good for complicated ones
[09:30] <bullgard4> [Gparted] What does indicate an orange triangle with an exclamation mark in it?
[09:30] <Detrix> ok then switching back to Ubuntu...
[09:30] <Dr_willis> bullgard4,  somthing like 'warning' or 'not allowed'
[09:31] <k4r1m> how do i make ubuntu always show me hidden files?
[09:31] <bullgard4> Dr_willis: Yes.
[09:31] <alraune> ﻿k4r1m: view/options  show hidden files
[09:32] <bullgard4> k4r1m: There is no "always". You can make individual programs to show them.
[09:32] <Dr_willis> k4r1m,  its the specific file manager/tool that hides them.
[09:32] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: Probably means that the partition is mounted and therefore cannot be modifies ( right click it to unmount it )
[09:32] <k4r1m> i figured
[09:32] <TeslaTony> k4r1m: Hit ctrl+H. That will show the hidden files in a given directory, but it won always show them until you hit the combo
[09:32] <lboken> mabye  but joejoe its with comment  like that that they will know  how to improve ubuntu    so its the user to have who saw that that should say hey if linux is  a  comunoty   project they probably take  sugestion  so seach for that
[09:32] <k4r1m> how about the desktop?
[09:32] <allquixotic_> Is http://www.gnome-look.org down for anyone else?
[09:33] <ikonia> allquixotic_: yes
[09:33] <afallenhope> Anyone know how to remove flash 9?
[09:33] <alraune> ﻿allquixotic_:yup
[09:33] <allquixotic_> thanks
[09:33] <bullgard4> Jordan_U: If your statement is true, what does indicate a GNOME keyring icon in another partition entry?
[09:34] <ikonia> afallenhope: if you use the purgre option in apt or the "remove all" in synaptic against the flashplugin-nonfree you'll remove it all
[09:34] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: I don't know
[09:34] <joejoecircusboy> lboken: My point is, users like airspace aren't part of the community. They're just people trying it out, if they don't like it, what makes you think they'll invest time filing a bug report on what didn't work out for them? (Hell, most regular users aren't willing to do that)
[09:34] <bullgard4> Jordan_U: Ok.
[09:34] <afallenhope> ikonia, sweeet.. and to reinstall it it's sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree?
[09:34] <joejoecircusboy> lboken: Ubuntu should make it easy to give feedback. Put a 'feedback' icon on the desk that new user can click and start typing
[09:35] <dextone> guyd
[09:35] <arwan> him I recently installed Ubuntu Hardy Heron, but I'm having problems getting an IP from my ISP's dhcp every first I boot, I have to reboot once or several times before Ubuntu gets me an IP (when I reboot to Vista I have an IP right away, always). Anybody here could help me out? Coz I'm about to uninstall Ubuntu forever
[09:35] <dextone> grrrrrrr
[09:35] <dextone> guys
[09:35] <ikonia> bullgard4: the orange exclimation mark means it can't read the contents of that partition
[09:35] <lboken> yes that the feed back   icon woudl be a good idea that i agree with you
[09:35] <ikonia> bullgard4: the keyring means "partition locked/in use"
[09:35] <afallenhope> arwan, could be dhcp issue. try typeing sudo dhclient
[09:35] <dextone> what's the difference of Ubuntu AMD 64 version ?
[09:36] <ikonia> dextone: it's 64bit
[09:36] <afallenhope> dextone, it's 64
[09:36] <joejoecircusboy> lboken: you should file a bug to have it added :P
[09:36] <afallenhope> ikonia, to reinstall it's just apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree?
[09:36] <rustychicken> joejoecircusboy: sometimes it is the users that are just trying it out that give the best feedback as to how to make it easier for them to switch.  i think everybody wants to make it easier to switch OSes, so listening to the newbies (provided the advice isn't like "make foo faster") is a good idea.  at least thats my opinion...
[09:36] <Jordan_U> joejoecircusboy: The Ubuntu devs don't have the man power to handle that much feedback :) ( there is idea storm though )
[09:36] <ikonia> afallenhope: you can do
[09:36] <arwan> afallenhope, I tried that, sometimes it works, sometime it doesn't... but I don't want to do thatevery time I boot my machine
[09:36] <dextone> afallenhope, thx
[09:36] <alraune> ﻿arwan:if u want uninstall, don't waste peoples time; try network applet >switch on or offline instaed of reboot
[09:37] <dextone> but is it posible runing 32 apps on 64bit OS ?
[09:37] <joejoecircusboy> jordon_U: Feed it to the community then, passionate contributors can scan the feedback and file bug reports
[09:37] <lboken> dex its a 64 bit but  i dont recommend it cause after that you will ahve trouble to install non repository   like me i tryed xubutu amd64 and i had trouble when it came to install new programe for  streaming music
[09:37] <arwan> alraune, I don't wnat to uninstall, I wnat to use ubuntu, but it's driving my crazy with this dhcp thingie
[09:37] <ikonia> bullgard4: the exclimation marks are "normally" on ntfs partitions because gparted can't read them
[09:37] <lboken> so i reinstall the    32 bits
[09:37] <derekv> Where is the file that should be .gnome2/session ?
[09:37] <lboken> cause most of the other you would have to recompile the installation
[09:37] <dextone> lboken, i wanna use it for mail server
[09:37] <joejoecircusboy> rustychicken: so we're on the same page then?
[09:37] <ikonia> lboken: please don't talk nonsense
[09:37] <bullgard4> ikonia: " it can't read" may mean in a ntfs partition that on this computer that the  ntfs driver is not installed?
[09:37] <alraune> ﻿arwan:how did you configure your network ?
[09:37] <ikonia> dextone: its more than capable
[09:38] <lboken> ikonia  what is nosense?
[09:38] <ikonia> bullgard4: it probably means gparted is not setup to read the ntfs partition because it doesn't want to, eg; why does it care about the data
[09:38] <ikonia> lboken: you will have trouble using external repos
[09:38] <dextone> so if i wanna use advantages of my proc (amd 64bit for sure) i'll install amd64bit ubuntu ?
[09:38] <rustychicken> joejoecircusboy: i believe so, sorry, i hadn't read some of your messages
[09:39] <joejoecircusboy> Jordan_U: Imagine if said feedback feature just wrote a dedication forum on ubuntuforums.org, developers or contributers just scan it at their leisure and see where the gaps are
[09:39] <ikonia> dextone: how much ram do you have ?
[09:39] <alraune> ﻿arwan:what in your environment provides dhcp ? your router ? usually private customers get a static ip from their Isp, something different from the users internal network-dhcp
[09:39] <lboken> ikonia didy ou actualy tryed  to install other programe that doesnt    come in 64 bits? i did  and i woudl had to recopiles them  some will work but not all
[09:39] <Dr_willis> dextone,  i never bother with the 64bit disrto versions.
[09:39] <dextone> only 2 G
[09:39] <ikonia> lboken: yes, many times
[09:39] <arwan> alraune, well right now it's in roaming mode, which seems to work most of the time. Perhaps I should also note that I disabled the avahi daemon
[09:39] <dextone> ikonia, why ? is it not enough ?
[09:39] <lboken> well  you must had recompiled the programe like i sayed  many will  work still but some wont
[09:39] <bullgard4> ikonia: I need time to think it over.  --  Thank you very much for your valuable explanations.
[09:39] <arwan> alraune: my ISP provides DHCP and it's worked like that for years
[09:39] <lboken> or will be harder
[09:40] <ikonia> dextone: no no, but if you have under 4 gig of ram, there is no real "out of the box" performance unless your doing things like video encodeign (just an easy example)
[09:40] <alraune> ﻿arwan:next to your pc is a router and next to it the phone jack ?
[09:40] <lboken> like me i have still trouble with recompilating
[09:40] <arwan> alraune: my pc is connected straight to my ISP's cable modem
[09:40] <ikonia> dextone: video encoding
[09:40] <ikonia> lboken: he mentioned nothing about recompiling - don't say a product is bad without any reason
[09:40] <dextone> ok guys
[09:40] <dextone> bbl
[09:41] <ikonia> dextone: you'll potentially be better of and have an easier time with the 32bit desktop install
[09:41] <ikonia> dextone: remember the desktop version acts as a great server
[09:41] <alraune> ﻿arwan:so right connetion would be ppoe then; does your modem have a websurface ?
[09:42] <Jordan_U> joejoecircusboy: I am afraid that there would be so much volume that 99% of it would never be read, if you put a feedback feature on the desktop you are implying that someone will take the time to read your feedback, I would be pretty insulted if a feedback feature sent my feedback to the practical equivalent of the bit bucket
[09:42] <lboken> yes its easier that waht i sayed  and if  he didnt knew the difference and asked if its will   work with  a 32bit programe  then you   can be sure he is like me and doesnt  expect to have to recompile 50% of the time
[09:42] <arwan> alraune, modem with websurface? please explain, never heard of that before
[09:42] <yacc> Hmm, how can I make sshd accept more connections when say 30 clients try to connect at the same time, ...
[09:42] <rustychicken> arwan, i think he means
[09:42] <ikonia> lboken: he didn't ask if it will work with 32bit programs
[09:42] <rustychicken> arwan: web interface"
[09:43] <lboken> yes it did
[09:43] <arwan> rustychicken, cheers
[09:43] <ikonia> lboken: and more than %50 of teh 32bit applications are packaged for amd64 in the ubuntu repos
[09:43] <arwan> alraune, no webinterface on my modem no
[09:43] <joejoecircusboy> Jordan_U: Well, that would depend on implementation/placement... so maybe 'feedback' on the desktop would be TOO easy... but ask it stands now, it's too hard to provide feedback... there should be a happy medium
[09:44] <rustychicken> arwan, you've heard of a "web interface" before, though, right?  ;-)
 but is it posible runing 32 apps on 64bit OS ?
[09:44] <ikonia> lboken: I missed that
[09:44] <wols> ikonia: all of debian is available on 64bit except some parts which can't be for technical reasons.
[09:44] <joejoecircusboy> Jordan_U: Also, it'd have to be made clear it was a 1-way communication, no responses would be given
[09:44] <arwan> rustychicken, sure have ;) I develop them at work ;)
[09:44] <alraune> ﻿arwan:some "better" routers can be configured by a simple interface reachable with a broeser, k not, open a Terminal, get your isp data handy (username&password from your Isp)
[09:44] <arwan> alraune, sorry if I sound harsh, but there's no problem with my modem, no problem with my ISP, no problem with my cable, etc... it's ubuntu which fails to get an IP from the DHCP, every other OS I try gets an IP right away (even Vista :/)
[09:45] <lboken> so that why i sayed that i recommend more the 32 bits  cause  its alot more work that all yes the 64 bit may be  good for  most of it     but for every day user using a 64 bits would be  to mush work when installing  user  32 bit programs
[09:45] <wols> arwan: what's the IP of the modem in windows?
[09:45] <ikonia> wols: exactly
[09:45] <TeslaTony> Where is the xorg.conf file stored?
[09:45] <ikonia> TeslaTony: /etc/X11
[09:45] <wols> TeslaTony: /etc/X11
[09:45] <anto> t
[09:45] <joejoecircusboy> Jordan_U: aside: I kinda like the ticket voting system that Sun uses...Canonical should adopt something similar
[09:46] <lboken> but he then sayed he wanted to use it as a email server (if  you didnt  interupted me i would had sayd then it has in it alreayd in the repository a mail server  so it will work good for that
[09:46] <arwan> alraune, so I must have a setting wrong in Ubuntu, but I can't for the life find out what... is it this avahi which I never heard about, it is this roaming mode... i don't know :(
[09:46] <joejoecircusboy> lboken: how can someone interrupt you on IRC? :P
[09:46] <alraune> ﻿arwan: open a Terminal, get your isp data handy (username&password from your Isp)
[09:46] <arwan> wols: it's a public IP, something like 213.....
[09:46] <wols> arwan: avahi is a zeroconf implementation.
[09:46] <wols> arwan: so it's a modem and no router?
[09:47] <lboken> well way to say  i was going to  type but when y sayed i talk nonsense i wanted to explained my self  so it wasnt nonsence cause i know my english isnt  perfect since im french canadian
[09:47] <alraune> wols:kabelmodem, yes
[09:47] <wols> and your windows box has a public IP?
[09:47] <joejoecircusboy> lboken: I'm Canadian too!
[09:47] <arwan> wols: no router in my place, laptop is connected straight to the cable modem
[09:47] <lboken> where in canada are you joejoecircusboy
[09:47] <wols> arwan: answer my question
[09:47] <joejoecircusboy> lboken: Toronto
[09:47] <arwan> wols: no, I'm only using one PC
[09:48] <joejoecircusboy> lboken: you in Montreal?
[09:48] <rustychicken> joejoecircusboy: knock knock (whos the-) interrupting cow
[09:48] <wols> arwan: when windows runs, what local IP?
[09:48] <ikonia> lboken: joejoecircusboy can you take that chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:48] <arwan> wols: it has dual boot, so I can boot in Ubuntu or Vista...
[09:48] <joejoecircusboy> lol
[09:48] <joejoecircusboy> ya ya
[09:48] <lboken> ok me im from lac st-jean ( st-john lake)  about 6 hours from montreal
[09:48] <wols> arwan: can you finally answer my question?
[09:48] <TeslaTony> ikonia and wols: Thanks
[09:48] <lboken> rustychicken:  its cause i was answering  some one  when iw as told i talked nonsence and so i didnt finished to answered him
[09:49] <lboken> but its all ok
[09:49] <joejoecircusboy> lboken: Cool, I drove through Montreal and up through Quebec City last summer... loved it (anyway, we're off topic)
[09:49] <wols> joejoecircusboy: stop it already!
[09:49] <lboken> yeah
[09:49] <ikonia> lboken: joejoecircusboy can you please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:49] <willfrand> hi
[09:49] <lboken> ok sorry
[09:49] <ikonia> thanks
[09:49] <rustychicken> hello willfrand!
[09:49] <joejoecircusboy> wols/ikonia: ya, did you see my note at the end?
[09:49] <ikonia> joejoecircusboy: just stop please.
[09:49] <wols> joejoecircusboy: did you see what ikonia told you LONG before. now go away please
[09:50] <arwan> wols: the question about the IP? WHen I boot my machine with Windows I get an IP in the public range,  so no 10.0.0.218 or something, but someting like 213.xxx.xxx.xxx
[09:50] <joejoecircusboy> wols/ikonia: We'd be done by now, if you didn't jump all over it again
[09:50] <wols> arwan: checking a few things. since you don't tell us by yourself we have to ask. does eth0 exist on ubuntu (ifconfig -a)
[09:50] <joejoecircusboy> it's done
[09:51] <wols> arwan: it could be for some udev reason there is no eth0 or eth1 but ethX where X is a much higher number
[09:51] <arwan> wols: I'd be glad to tell you everyting about my computer... please don't treat my like a new noob, I'm a long time Slackware user, recently decided to give Ubuntu a try on my new laptop
[09:51] <wols> which could cause it not to get any IP via dhcp by default
[09:51] <alraune> ﻿arwan: open a Terminal, get your isp data handy (username&password from your Isp)
[09:51] <wols> another possible thing is a nf4 chipset but on a lappie this is improbable
[09:52] <deever> anyone here who brought a epson stylus photo r200 to work under 8.04? under localhost:631/printers/ it is listed, but can't print anything and there are no errors in the logs...
[09:52] <wols> arwan: sorry to say it but you didn't give any indication if you knew anything or be vint cerf himself
[09:52] <arwan> wols: eth0 exists on my laptop yes (using it right now)
[09:52] <wols> arwan: you are not under ubuntu so your current statement is meaningless
[09:53] <arwan> wols: well, beat me with a stick... but I'm seeing some weird bird on my desktop and when my machine boots it says Ubuntu
[09:53] <joejoecircusboy> hehe
[09:53] <wols> so you're connected to the interweb right now? so what's the problem?
[09:53] <kokobuntu> hello ... how to set ubuntu to hibernate instead of suspend?
[09:53] <wols> my understanding was you didn't get a connection on ubuntu. which is why you were asking about it
[09:53] <alraune> ﻿deever:its listed as compatible in hardware list
[09:54] <arwan> wols: that I have to reboot several times, or fiddle with the network settings before I get an IP from my DHCP. And before you start accusing my ISP, there's is nothing wrong with their services. I must be doing someting wrong in Ubuntu
[09:54] <kokobuntu> ... I mean i don't want to sleep after let say 1 hour of idle... I want to hibernate
[09:54] <alraune> ﻿arwan: open a Terminal, get your isp data handy (username&password from your Isp)
[09:54] <wols> arwan: what does the fiddling involve? this is WLAN? if so, what chip?
[09:55] <Dr_willis> arwan,  or a i bit of both beign wrong... :) Could be some 'timeout' is going too fast/slow... and one end is not waiting long enough
[09:55] <arwan> alraune: terminal is up, username and pasword at hand
[09:55] <alraune> ﻿arwan: type : sudo  pppoeconf
[09:55] <deever> alraune: on another box, it worked out-of-the-box after plugging it in
[09:56] <wols> alraune: what makes you think it's pppoe?
[09:56] <wols> alraune: pppoe doesn't hand out IPs via DHCP fyi
[09:56] <arwan> wols: the fiddling involves opening the 'manual configuration' through the network applet, enabling/disabling the interface, chaning it's properties form roaming mode to DHCP, using ifup/ifdown, etc
[09:56] <alraune> ﻿arwan: but configures your ethernet
[09:57] <arwan> alraune, inside of ppoeconf
[09:57] <wols> arwan: I'd only deal with /etc/network/interfaces and dhclient with the problem. mixing network manager in imho complicates things. you as a slackware user should agree I think :)
[09:57] <Far_> hey all
[09:57] <alraune> ﻿arwan: interfaces listed...
[09:57] <wols> arwan: while you are a connected now, is pppd running?
[09:57] <SCuriousMom> hello
[09:57] <alraune> ﻿arwan: choose the one u prbably got
[09:57] <kokobuntu> QUESTION: How to use hibernate instead of sleep after idle time?
[09:57] <rustychicken> hello SCuriousMom
[09:58] <alraune> ﻿arwan: need more help with the screens ?
[09:58] <arwan> alraune, it asked if all my interfaces werelist, I choose yes since it showed my wired ethernet card and my wireless
[09:58] <arwan> alraune, now it's looking for a PPPoE Access Concetrator
[09:58] <alraune> ﻿arwan: yup
[09:59] <wols> alraune: he is online right now and there is no ppp0 interface. so what makes you think it's pppoe?
[09:59] <arwan> alraune: it now says it couldn't find any
[09:59] <wols> arwan: not surprising with a ISP that uses dhcp :P
[09:59] <alraune> ﻿wols: former connections to simple modems
[09:59] <wols> alraune: that is no sound reason
[09:59] <arwan> wols: indeed... but I'm just doing what alraune says... he's so very kind to try and help me! :)
[09:59] <Silent12> can any 1 tell me how to back my linux installation
[10:00] <Silent12>  :(
[10:00] <wols> alraune: not in with all the contrary evidence
[10:00] <wols> !backup
[10:00] <Silent12> yep
[10:00] <Silent12> so that i dont have to reinstall all software over again after reinstalling
[10:00] <eth01> your connection got a gateway?
[10:00] <alraune> arwan:?how can that be ? you are connected but can't find ?
[10:00] <wols> arwan: please don't waste our time.
[10:00] <wols> alraune: there is more than pppoe to connect to a ISP alraune
[10:01] <Silent12> ubottu thanks :)
[10:01] <Far_> is it possibel  to get ubuntu to run with ipods and sync with mobile phones??
[10:01] <Dr_willis> Silent12,  err... if you reinstall.. you will need to reisntall all the software.. otherwise it wont be a reinstall.. You can 'save' a list' of what you have currently installed. to make it easier...
[10:01] <eth01> !ubottu | Silent12
[10:01] <alraune> !cloning>Silent12
[10:01] <Dr_willis> Silent12,  or you could archive/copy/clone/mirror your existing setup and restore it exactly...
[10:01] <eth01> alraune: what an earth are you doing?
[10:02] <alraune> arwan:can you give it a second scan/search ?
[10:02] <arwan> wols: i'm not trying to waste anybody's time... life's too short as is
[10:02] <Silent12> setup you mean both home and root dir ?
[10:02] <eth01> arwan: don't do reverse psychology
[10:02] <wols> arwan: you obviously know that you don't use pppoe
[10:03] <wols> arwan: you are connecting wired to your modem?
[10:03] <Silent12> Dr_willis		Silent12, or you could archive/copy/clone/mirror your existing setup and restore it exactly.    <--- please tell me more
[10:03] <Silent12> :(
[10:03] <eth01> we heard you the first time, please don't post multiple times.
[10:03] <eth01> ask, even
[10:03] <wols> Silent12: ubottu told you how to clone an install already
[10:04] <Dr_willis> Silent12,  theres tools that 'copy' the whole hard drive to some other location, you then can restore.. I never bothe rwith it.. the info the bots gave will have info i imagine
[10:04] <Dr_willis> Silent12,  it all depends on your exact needs and system/space
[10:04] <afallenhope> anyone know how to remove build-deps?
[10:04] <rustychicken> Silent12: Cloning is basically copying the data from one hard drive to another hard drive.  There are many tools to do this, the best I have come across in my short experience/research is Clonezilla.
[10:04] <arwan> wols: yes I'm having a wired connection to my modem
[10:04] <wols> arwan: link is up? (see dmesg)
[10:04] <eth01> duh
[10:04] <Silent12> thanks rustychicken and all other who helped me
[10:04] <wols> afallenhope: describe what you want to do better please
[10:04] <deever> anyone here who brought a epson stylus photo r200 to work under 8.04? under localhost:631/printers/ it is listed, but can't print anything and there are no errors in the logs...
[10:04] <Silent12> :)
[10:05] <Silent12> i am trying that now
[10:05] <Shact> Hi guys. Does anyone know of a way to run a commercial Solaris ap in Ubuntu?
[10:05] <wols> !vm | Shact
[10:05] <alraune> wols: if its a simplest modem, can't store acces information, uses ppoe, if..
[10:05] <joejoecircusboy> Shact: for SPARc?
[10:05] <wols> alraune: english please
[10:05] <afallenhope> wols, I entered the following command so that I can compile wine. sudo apt-get build-dep wine how am I to remove the deps now that it's already installed.
[10:05] <Shact> wols: no, not via vm - I was hoping for somehthing more like co-linux
[10:06] <wols> afallenhope: check your dpkg.log and remove the files which are build-deps.
[10:06] <joejoecircusboy> Shact: It's a Solaris x86 app?
[10:06] <dEagLE> how to view my webcam
[10:06] <wols> Shact: colinux is a virtual machine too
[10:06] <bullgard4> Wie lautet der Name des NTFS-Treibers in Ubuntu 8.04?
[10:06] <wols> Shact: and it works the same as e.g. virtualbox more or less: installs another OS under the current one
[10:07] <bullgard4> What is the name of the NTFS driver in Ubuntu 8.04?
[10:07] <wols> bullgard4: english please. dpkg -L ntfs-3g
[10:07] <alraune> wols: ?.. if it (modem) can store the info., most probably got an interface with an adress range, so static IP would be more reliable
[10:07] <arwan> wols: I'm very happy that you're trying to help, but it seems like you missed a couple of my messages before... shall I start all over with trying to explain my problem
[10:07] <afallenhope> wols, where is the log
[10:07] <Shact> joe: yeah. The company dropped Linux support, so looking for alternatives
[10:07] <bullgard4> wols: What is the name of the NTFS driver in Ubuntu 8.04?
[10:07] <wols> arwan: checking lastlog now
[10:07] <alraune> arwan:can you give it a second scan/search ?
[10:07] <ikonia> bullgard4: ntfs or ntfs-3g
[10:08] <bullgard4> ikonia: Ah, thank you.
[10:08] <alraune> arwan:when using vista, didn't you have to tell vista once username&password given from your ISP ?
[10:08] <wols> arwan: I'd use /etc/network/interfaces directly, and not roaming mode
[10:08] <rustychicken> arwan: just for the record arwan, im totally with you.  i have no idea what alraune is doing, but I chalk that up to my own inexperience with ppoe...
[10:09] <arwan> alraune, I could that yes. But like Wols suggested I never had to use PPPoE before, so I don't think i have to do that now
[10:09] <wols> rustychicken: he is simply barking up the wrong tree and doesn't even see how wrong he is
[10:09] <{mg}> Hey People! I try to connect to my wireless network, but nothing happens. Is there a log somewhere, where I can find more infos?
[10:09] <rustychicken> wols: agreed, i think he keyed in on the word modem, and is thinking 56k, not cable
[10:09] <wols> alraune: two things for you: he is connected via ubuntu to the modem right now and there is no pppd running.
[10:09] <alraune> wols: got that
[10:09] <wols> rustychicken: dsl in europe almost everywhere uses pppoe. cable less so
[10:10] <wols> alraune: then it follows there is no pppoe. agreed?
[10:10] <rustychicken> wols: huh...the more you know, i guess.
[10:10] <alraune> wols: I wonder why pppoeconf dosn't find his modem, go on
[10:11] <rustychicken> {mg}: do you know what kind of wireless chipset you have?
[10:11] <wols> alraune: it never looked for a modem. there is no AC. which is cause ther is no AC to find. not to mention that if the search ewre successful, he'd drop from the channel
[10:11] <wols> {mg}: logs are in /var/log
[10:11] <arwan> wols: I will try later on today by disabling raoming mode and using /etc/network/interfaces instead (but first read about that file in the manuals somewhere, coz I never used that one before either)
[10:12] <{mg}> rustychicken: no
[10:12] <kokobuntu> How to hibernate instead of sleep when idle?
[10:12] <wols> arwan: man interfaces.
[10:12] <alraune> wols:till a restart of whatever-messenger, browser
[10:12] <kokobuntu> Have any idea?
[10:12] <wols> alraune: easiest and most simple way to network
[10:12] <joejoecircusboy> arwan: You said you used slack?
[10:12] <{mg}> oh, got it!
[10:12] <wols> alraune: no. I currently use pppoe and you can't find the AC when the pppoe connection is running
[10:12] <wols> only if you stop pppd
[10:12] <Shact> wols: I don't think that's how co-linux works, but i'll take it as there's no decent solution to running solaris aps yet
[10:13] <ktulu77> gi there
[10:13] <ktulu77> hi
[10:13] <wols> Shact: I do since I run it myself and looked at it. it's "simply" a UML
[10:13] <arwan> wols: thank you, I think that's the file I've been looking for all the time :) being a slackware user that is
[10:13] <{mg}> configured my wlan to only assign a max of one IP. So it couldnt provide IPs to 2 machines.
[10:13] <arwan> joejoecircusboy, yes I did for a couple of years
[10:13] <wols> arwan: I told you all along to ditch that GUI rubbish, but you wouldn't listen :P
[10:13] <lashi> anyone in here knows much about the GNOME?
[10:13] <kokobuntu> Can anyone see my post?
[10:13] <ikonia> kokobuntu: yes
[10:13] <lashi> I basically came back from a power outage, and my desktop appearance settings arn't being applied
[10:13] <ekow> ﻿is it possible to link my wireless connection to my guest machine on virtualbox by any chance?
[10:13] <wols> !patience | kokobuntu
[10:14] <lashi> that includes the annoying touchpad that I disabled for tapping
[10:14] <wols> ekow: yes. bridging
[10:14] <alraune> wols: what do you think causes the long tim when he boots in to get connected ? I would guess the communication between his nic and the modem
[10:14] <kokobuntu> OK! sorry to be annoying ... at least let me know that there is no solution so I can do something else
[10:14] <joejoecircusboy> arwan: So you should be familiar with ifconfig's output and meaning.... I suggest you take a snapshot of 'ifconfig -a' before and after you 'fiddle' and see what changed
[10:14] <ikonia> kokobuntu: no-one is answering, so please feel free to do something else
[10:14] <arwan> wols: one of the reason I decided to try Ubuntu was because of the pretty GUI's :) so sorry that I didn't wnat to throw them overboard right away :)
[10:15] <wols> there are good reasons for guis and bad ones .)
[10:15] <rustychicken> kokobuntu: if you havent tried them already, the forums (http://www.ubuntuforums.org) are a very good place to get more help
[10:15] <lboken> i jsut remember somthing  , does any one know a way to reset the  xserver(graphic server) cause i do use a kvm(to switch from a pc to the other  and if one is booting i have to lets the screen  set to that one or the    resolution is screwed up(i konw with kde  there is a  option in the loging page  reset  xserver  but is ther e a way to have it on a gnome  graphical  manager?
[10:15] <kokobuntu> wow ... wonder why people use this piece of crap ... not friendly at all
[10:15] <arwan> joejoecircusboy, yes I'm familiar with it's output... and to be honest I thik it's this avahi that was throwing me off, got a bit agrevated
[10:15] <ikonia> lboken: ctrl+alt+backspace will restart the X server
[10:15] <wols> !language < kokobuntu
[10:15] <Shact> wols: i was under the impression that most virtualisation software translated system commands, while co-linux adds system commands to the existing set. That's pretty much what it said on their site when it was launched
[10:15] <wols> !language > kokobuntu
[10:16] <joejoecircusboy> arwan: why do you think it's avahi?
[10:16] <Silent12> guys i am one more question --- > i have to partitions root and home.Can you tell me which partition i need to backup or creat image so that after restoring my backup i get the previous state of the system ie
[10:16] <kokobuntu> :) Will not be the first distro not used by people because of poor helps
[10:16] <kokobuntu> bye all
[10:16] <lashi> Silent12
[10:16] <wols> Shact: that makes no sense. CoLinux uses an UML kernel which works in usermode. they add some drivers for things like their hdd image and that's it
[10:16] <Silent12> ya ?
[10:16] <arwan> joejoecircusboy: not sure, just thing this feeling... but by now I'm not sure of anything anymore
[10:16] <Asmodeus-hu> hi
[10:17] <lashi> basically, you need to keep your home stuff to keep your user data
[10:17] <lashi> that's where your user data goes
[10:17] <Asmodeus-hu> anyone can help me about WUBI?
[10:17] <wols> !ask | Asmodeus-hu
[10:17] <Silent12> and the installition software ?
[10:17] <lashi> in terms of the installed apps and their settings, all that lies in /var and /etc
[10:17] <lashi> well, dpkg --get-selections or, even better, aptitude search '~i' will get you a list of installed packages
[10:17] <joejoecircusboy> arwan: Hmm.. does avahi play with routing interfaces at all? I though it was just about service discovery on the local network
[10:17] <lboken> ha good ill make a note  now what i was doing i was loging as  it was then onlog (less long to than rebooting the pc   lol) but now it will be easier that way thanks ikonia
[10:17] <lashi> but their 'state' is usually kept in /etc
[10:18] <lashi> what are you trying to do?
[10:18] <joejoecircusboy> arwan: routing or* interfaces
[10:18] <lashi> and for the love and sake of god, is there anyone who knows this GUI stuff in here
[10:18] <Silent12> so if i save these 3 dirs that copy n paste from the previous state will bring back my previous state ?
[10:18] <alraune> arwan:ask on , you can stop the connecion and use  pppoeconf, but obviousley  other ways, too
[10:18] <lashi> well, no, not necessary
[10:18] <lashi> what are you trying to do?
[10:18] <Silent12> i am trying to creat a back up
[10:18] <Asmodeus-hu> ok, so I installed Ubuntu with WUBI, but now I have to Reinstall my Windows, and I want to del Ubuntu from my hard disk, but when I click on "uninstall.exe" nothing do.
[10:18] <lashi> Oh rightio
[10:18] <Shact> wols: then how come it runs so much better than others?
[10:18] <dam> how do i make more space?
[10:18] <lashi> well, basically, you want to do that aptitude thing
[10:18] <dam> clear temp files?
[10:18] <lashi> that'll tell you what software is installed on yoru system
[10:18] <wols> !better | Shact
[10:18] <Silent12> so that after reinstallation ie newly it will restore my previous state
[10:18] <lashi> you want to backup /etc
[10:18] <arwan> joejoecircusboy, I have no idea what avahi actually does, and don't really understand it's purpose (being a slackware user who loves manual configuration for this kind of stuff)
[10:19] <lashi> that should be sufficient
[10:19] <lashi> but really, you can get the system back
[10:19] <lashi> it's really the user data that you should be worried about
[10:19] <lashi> well, no
[10:19] <wols> arwan: it's a zeroconf implementation
[10:19] <arwan> joejoecircusboy, but I suggest you don't waste your time on me. I will follow Wols advice and see where that gets me
[10:19] <Silent12> then what
[10:19] <Shact> wols: lol. aps in co-linux seem to run at full speed. no so on other vms
[10:19] <Shact> full speed = better
[10:19] <lashi> the solution I gave, you have to reinstall the packages that you get as an output from aptitude '~i'
[10:19] <joejoecircusboy> arwan: manual interfaces? That's a bit of a hack
[10:19] <lashi> so you should save that info
[10:20] <lashi> like aptitude '~i' > installed-apps
[10:20] <lashi> that'll basically save a text list of installed apps
[10:20] <lashi> beware though, you need to go and edit that file to make it usable later
[10:20] <joejoecircusboy> arwan: IMO, if something is wrong  you should try to fix it rather than pulling the rug out, so to speak
[10:20] <morningwalker> can i install SELinux on ubuntu??
[10:20] <Silent12> hmmm
[10:20] <coffinzm> is there a parameter i can issue when starting an application from the terminal that makes that application automatically "always on top"
[10:20] <lashi> then you can issue something like aptitude install 'cat installed-apps-parsed-file'
[10:20] <wols> joejoecircusboy: /etc/network/interfaces is a standard way of configuring the network
[10:20] <Silent12> only copying and pasting wont work
[10:20] <lashi> Silent12, are there no GUI based backup stuff?
[10:21] <morningwalker> can i install SELinux??
[10:21] <Silent12> well i have 64 bit version
[10:21] <lashi> well, you can copy and paste, but you want to obviously restore the software you've got on there
[10:21] <rustychicken> arwan: a really lazy way to see if removing/disabling avahi is the problem is to just pop in the livecd and see if you can get the connection working on that without killing avahi, but i suppose if you like configing things...  ;-)
[10:21] <Silent12> ands i can getting 32 bits software
[10:21] <ikonia> morningwalker: ubuntu uses appamour
[10:21] <lashi> the bit size of your bus is iirellveant
[10:21] <Silent12> ya
[10:21] <lashi> i'm running amd64 too
[10:21] <joejoecircusboy> wols: Ya, so is using the network manager.... he should need to 'fiddle' with it
[10:21] <morningwalker> ikonia: SELinux is there in the repos tho
[10:21] <mugdha> Hi, I mistakenly removed from the panel the pidgin notification that says i am online and which appears besides the switch user icon on the right side of the top panel :(, how can i get it back?
[10:21] <joejoecircusboy> wols: *shouldn't
[10:21] <ikonia> Silent12: only specific 32bit software is available to run in 32bit mode on ubuntu 64bit, however most 32bit software has been recompiled in 64bit versions
[10:21] <ikonia> morningwalker: it sure is
[10:21] <Silent12> but the software i got for creating imaege is 32 bit
[10:21] <Asmodeus-hu> ok, so I installed Ubuntu with WUBI, but now I have to Reinstall my Windows, and I want to del Ubuntu from my hard disk, but when I click on "uninstall.exe" nothing do.
[10:22] <arwan> joejoecircusboy, I share that opinion... I would love to find the cause of this problem... but I should also get some work done, so I might just take the fast route this time
[10:22] <morningwalker> ikonia: I installed SELinux some time ago
[10:22] <lashi> who wrote this software
[10:22] <Silent12> not clonezilla
[10:22] <lashi> that's badly written software
[10:22] <morningwalker> but had problems, so had to reboot
[10:22] <joejoecircusboy> arwan: understandable
[10:22] <alraune> morningwalker:apt-cache search se...
[10:22] <ikonia> morningwalker: ok.....???
[10:22] <lashi> basically, if that's the case
[10:22] <Silent12> thats the software i need to creat image
[10:22] <lashi> then my option is one way to do it
[10:22] <wols> Asmodeus-hu: if you reinstall windows you can just delete the wubi files
[10:22] <morningwalker> ikonia: what is you told me ubuntu use's instead of SELinux..?
[10:22] <Asmodeus-hu> so not need to use "uninstall" ?
[10:22] <lashi> I'm amazed that amongst all the guiness that's happened int he linux world, there isn't a frontend for making backups
[10:22] <lashi> but Silent12
[10:22]  * morningwalker wondering
[10:23] <joejoecircusboy> arwan: btw, do you have multiple interfaces?
[10:23] <lashi> basically, there are three logical things:
[10:23] <ikonia> morningwalker: appamour is ubuntus security implimentation.
[10:23] <Silent12> nope
[10:23] <arwan> joejoecircusboy, yes, a wired and a wireless one
[10:23] <lashi> (1) software on your system (2) settings for your software (3) user data
[10:23] <wols> Asmodeus-hu: If it doesn't work. when you boot do you get grub or the windows bootloader? tho again, with windows reinstalled it will overwrite grub if it's there
[10:23] <lashi> we can negect (3), ebcause that's easy to do, just simply backup /home
[10:23] <rustychicken> Silent12: Clonezilla runs on 64 bit machines (I've done it)...dont know if they have a 64-bit release or not.
[10:23] <lashi> so, that leaves us with (1) and (2)
[10:23] <Asmodeus-hu> ok, thanks
[10:23] <joejoecircusboy> arwan: if the manual config doesn't work, you may want to take a closer look at the interface naming - make sure it's consistent between boots and after fiddling
[10:24] <lashi> rustychicken, it might run on 64 bit machines, but does it run at 64-bits?
[10:24] <morningwalker> ikoniak... there by default??
[10:24] <morningwalker> appamour
[10:24] <lashi> Ie., with the CrapTel/Intel Architecture, EM64 or AMD64 are extensions
[10:24] <rustychicken> Silent12: the only problem you may run into (and this may have been what you were asking all along) is that Clonezilla may restore some 32-bit apps when you have a 64-bit machine...
[10:24] <lashi> so, you can run that cpu at 32 bits
[10:24] <rustychicken> lashi: i dont know, lemme see if theyve got a 64-bit version
[10:24] <ikonia> rustychicken: restore some 32bit apps ?/?
[10:24] <ikonia> rustychicken: what are you talking about ?
[10:24] <arwan> joejoecircusboy, you mean that just maybe the first I boot my wireless gets named eth1 and trhe second time it gets named eth0 ?
[10:25] <lashi> and anyone here can answer my question PLEASE?
[10:25] <lashi> I know very little about all this fancy new GUI stuff
[10:25] <ikonia> lashi: a 64bit cpu will be able to run the 32bit distro
[10:25] <ikonia> lashi: but 32bit software will not run nativly within a 64bit OS
[10:25] <joejoecircusboy> arwan: ya, ubuntu uses udev to do interface naming - I've seen it get confused
[10:25] <Dr_willis> lashi,  people have been running 32bit OS's on 64bit cpus since the 64bit cpus have been out. :)
[10:25] <wols> ikonia: why not?
[10:25] <lashi> ikonia, yes it will
[10:26] <lashi> that's the whole idea of the AMD64 extensions
[10:26] <lashi> ie. my skype at the moment, for instance
[10:26] <lashi> you do a --force install, and it runs
[10:26] <lashi> no worries
[10:26] <arwan> joejoecircusboy, aha, that would explain a whole lot! Wols mention something about udev earlier on too
[10:26] <lashi> Of course, it depends ikonia
[10:26] <ikonia> nativly is pehaps not the %100 correct term
[10:26] <fanfan> 我
[10:26] <lashi> well, what is the right term
[10:26] <ikonia> you can't just dum 32bit software onto the ubuntu 64bit platform
[10:26] <lashi> you can
[10:26] <ikonia> dump
[10:26] <lashi> I've done it
[10:26] <wols> ikonia: it is pretty native, trust me there :) at least under AMD64
[10:26] <joejoecircusboy> arwan: and don't forget to look into your pppoe conf :P
[10:26] <lashi> yeah
[10:27] <ikonia> lashi: no you can't ubuntu is not multilib
[10:27] <Marti1> Hi, i wanna install nvidia drivers but i dunno how to get to text mode. Can you tell me how ?
[10:27] <ikonia> wols: native was not the correct term,
[10:27] <lashi> ikonia, how doy ou think flashplugin works for ubuntu?
[10:27] <arwan> joejoecircusboy, grrrrr :p hehe
[10:27] <lashi> how do you think skype works on ubuntu
[10:27] <lashi> Go and look it up, then come back to me
[10:27] <rustychicken> ikonia: sounded to me like he was going to backup a few 32-bit binaries and then try to run them on a 64-bit machine...  but i guess i misunderstood him...
[10:27] <wols> Marti1: you don't need to. nvidia.com drivers are not supported here. use the restricted drivers coming with ubuntu
[10:27] <ikonia> lashi: as I've said you can't just dump 32bit software into ubuntu 64bit
[10:27] <lashi> I've got 32 bit stuff running con my AMD64 Ubuntu distro
[10:27] <lashi> ikonia, I have and it works fine
[10:27] <lashi> of course, it's not supported
[10:27] <ikonia> lashi: you can run 32bit software, I didn't say you can't, but you can't just dump 32bit software in
[10:27] <lashi> but that's not the point
[10:27] <igogiko> yeah
[10:27] <wols> ikonia: you can if you dump enough 32bit libs too :P
[10:27] <igogiko> :D
[10:27] <pjvandehaar> lashi: skype is made to work for linux, if thats what you mean
[10:28] <joejoecircusboy> ikonia: actually, you can for the most part :)
[10:28] <igogiko> anybody know where is finland serv?
[10:28] <ikonia> wols: exactly AND in the correct location as ubuntu is not multilib so /lib is lib64
[10:28] <lashi> pjvandehaar, not linux, we're talking about running skype on 64-bit machine
[10:28] <ikonia> wols: so the software has to be aware of the layout
[10:28] <lashi> pjvandehaar, skype is compiled for 32-bits in the Intel Architecture
[10:28] <Marti1> ﻿wols: i cant install them, it says files are not found on server. tell me how to get to text mode plz
[10:28] <wols> ikonia: chroots to the rescue :)
[10:28] <lashi> but with AMD64, you can run the 32-bits
[10:28] <ikonia> wols: yes, which nativly should read "out of the box"
[10:28] <ikonia> lashi: yes but not all software is aware of the corect path
[10:28] <ikonia> lashi: ubuntu is not multilib
[10:29] <lashi> Of course
[10:29] <lashi> I know that
[10:29] <wols> ikonia: btw, at least in debian there is multilib work done. so I guess ubuntu will get it too
[10:29] <lashi> I'm not saying you can do it for everything
[10:29] <chimaera> Hi, just installed VLC. Video is working, but I just get white noise for audio. I have the pulse-audio-plugin installed and selected.
[10:29] <ikonia> lashi: so you can't just "dump 32bit software" in
[10:29] <omkar> hello guys
[10:29] <bullgard4> ikonia: Is the filename of the NTFS driver in Ubuntu 8.04 /bin/ntfs-3g?
[10:29] <lashi> it's not suomthing that's supported
[10:29] <arwan> wols, rustychicken, joejoecircusboy and alraune, I'm very grateful for all the help! I hope can nail this problem down and fix it so that I can become a long time Ubuntu user. Off to work now, cya laters!
[10:29] <lashi> but for the most part, you can
[10:29] <lashi> and I have
[10:29] <omkar> i want to setup passwd for ubuntu
[10:29] <lashi> if you know what you're doing
[10:29] <omkar> roo
[10:29] <ikonia> bullgard4: no, thats an application
[10:29] <lashi> but can someone PLEASE answer my GUI problem
[10:29] <lashi> hahahaha
[10:29] <ikonia> wols: ubuntu has some support in there
[10:29] <omkar> i want to setup passwd for root in Ubuntu
[10:29] <lashi> all this GUI stuff is too new for me
[10:29] <rustychicken> Silent12 (or Silent123...) what are you looking to backup?  a list of currently installed programs, your user data, or everything?
[10:30] <ikonia> lashi: I'm afriad not, if a program is expecting /lib to contain the 32bit apps - how do you just "dump" that in ?
[10:30] <rustychicken> arwan: sorry i wasnt more help...
[10:30] <alraune> O:-)
[10:30] <Marti1> how i can get to text mode only for one session?
[10:30] <pjvandehaar> omkar:sys>admin>login window> security
[10:30] <lashi> ikonia, before you argue with me, please go and read about how this stuff works
[10:30] <Silent123> everything so that after reinstalation on Os i get my old state back
[10:30] <deever> anyone here who brought a epson stylus photo r200 to work under 8.04? under localhost:631/printers/ it is listed, but can't print anything and there are no errors in the logs...
[10:30] <lashi> if you don't believe it doesn't work, then try installing something 32-bits
[10:30] <ikonia> lashi: I'm well aware how this works
[10:30] <lashi> basically, for something like  flashplugin
[10:30] <joejoecircusboy> ikonia: I just scp'd /bin/bash from my 32bit laptop to my 64bit desktop (running 64bit Ubuntu).. the binary ran fine
[10:30] <ikonia> lashi: how do you just dump a 32bit bit application on a 64bit system that wants 32bit libs in /lib
[10:31] <lashi> well, ikonia if you're aware, then this discussion has a logical end
[10:31] <wols> joejoecircusboy: since you have the needed libs already installed ia32libs for example
[10:31] <arwan> rustychicken, don't be sorry... you can't help every one (especially stubburn users like me)
[10:31] <ikonia> lashi: if you could explain that question I'd be most greatful
[10:31] <joejoecircusboy> wols: Of course, but the binary didn't need to be made aware of the special location of the libraries
[10:31] <lashi> because ikonia, there are probably separate 32-bit libs, amd64 was made for backward compatibility,
[10:31] <pjvandehaar> omkar: or do you have a password and forgot it?
[10:31] <joejoecircusboy> wols: which is what ikonia is claiming...
[10:31] <rustychicken> Silent123: hmm...im not understanding something.  if you want to back up everything, why do you want to reinstall in the first place?  are you trying to migrate from ubuntu 32-bit to ubuntu 64-bit?
[10:31] <omkar> no
[10:31] <ikonia> lashi: no
[10:31] <lashi> we're not talkign about the difference ie with smoething like sparc64 and an old 32-bit sparc
[10:31] <omkar> i haven't setup passwd for root
[10:32] <lashi> ikonia, don't tell me no, go and look it up
[10:32] <omkar> i have done fresh installation of Ubuntu
[10:32] <lashi> this is a stupid argument
[10:32] <ikonia> lashi: I'm well aware of it
[10:32] <lashi> I'ev done this many times
[10:32] <rustychicken> arwan: true enough, have a good day at work, mate!
[10:32] <lashi> welll, obviously, you're not aware of crap
[10:32] <lashi> i'm sorry to be rude, but it's just arrogant to say no when I've done it
[10:32] <ikonia> lashi: we'll have to disagree on this
[10:32] <lashi> I'm not saying it's guarenteed to work
[10:32] <omkar> The login window hasn't appeard on my screen
[10:32] <ikonia> lashi: " so out of the box" is not correct
[10:32] <lashi> i'm saying *heuristically* it'll work for the most part
[10:32] <Silent123> no
[10:32] <lashi> I didn't say out of the box ikonia
[10:32] <ikonia> lashi: but I did
[10:32] <lashi> we were talking about natively
[10:32] <lashi> no you said natively
[10:32] <Silent123> i have alrdy 64bit installed
[10:33] <lashi> natively is a processor level thing
[10:33] <ikonia> lashi: I said nativly was the wrong word
[10:33] <lashi> out of the box is a higher level software issue
[10:33] <Marti1> Hello how can i turn off graphic mode ?
[10:33] <lashi> okay, well I was going on about natively
[10:33] <Silent123> i just want to make sure i dont lose my data and sttting when i am experimenting with the OS
[10:34] <rustychicken> Silent123: okay, then it sounds to me like you want to back up a few things then.  you want to backup your user data, and you want to have the same programs installed.  is that correct?
[10:34] <Silent123> ya
[10:34] <cartman545> test please ignore
[10:34] <Silent123> i just fresh intalled my all essseintial programs
[10:34] <rustychicken> Silent123: ah.  Well then, clonezilla is not meant for that.
[10:35] <Silent123> and i want to backup that so if damages occure i can restore my previous
[10:35] <Silent123> any software that creates images that will do but i am not finding any software on linux platform
[10:36] <mugdha> thanks i am done anyways
[10:36] <joejoecircusboy> ikonia: are you saying the location of linked libraries are stored within an executable?
[10:36] <mugdha> :)
[10:36] <rustychicken> Silent123: in your case, what I would do is have Synaptic create a list of all the installed programs (if you do it through Synaptic, you don't have to worry about 32-bit/64-bit compatibility, etc), and copy the entire /home/username  (<-- whatever your username is) to your backup disk
[10:36] <alraune> Silent123:two differnt things to care of: the Os and its data and you and your data
[10:37] <spsneo> how to get man 3 pages in ubuntu?
[10:37] <alraune> Silent123:see rustychicken
[10:37] <Silent123> and what about software setting ?
[10:37] <IhateMicrosoft> s
[10:37] <IhateMicrosoft> s
[10:38] <IhateMicrosoft> cazzo
[10:38] <Silent123> will it be coppied by coppying the /home dir ?
[10:38] <rustychicken> Silent123: how many programs did you modify the config files for?  If its less than 10, i would suggest to simply copy them individually.
[10:38] <Silent123> more than 10+
[10:38] <alraune> Silent123:software does the synapic/dpkg thing
[10:38] <Silent123> + all the setting and plugins about mp3 n all
[10:39] <rustychicken> Silent123: system-wide settings (like networking, fstab, and xorg.conf) are not in the /home/username directory, so you will have to copy those yourself
[10:39] <Silent123> so /etc copy will do ?
[10:39] <Silent123> or i need other dir too if so pls mention
[10:40] <asdfasdfasdf> hi
[10:40] <rustychicken> Silent123: I dont know for sure, but my *guess* is probably.  So you want to copy /etc and /home/username to your backup media, and create a list of programs that you have installed.
[10:40] <alraune> Silent123:ubu is not win, so if no hardwaredamage less often to reinstall, unless you don't clone your whole hd or partition, its always some work
[10:41] <rustychicken> Silent123: the only problem i can foresee is that i think some binaries are stored in /etc (anybody please correct me if im wrong), and so copying those binaries may break things
[10:41] <Dr_willis> rustychicken,  ive seen 'links' to binaries in /etc/ but not actual binaries
[10:41] <Silent123> hmmm
[10:42] <Silent123> then what you guys suggest about software and its setting s ?
[10:42] <Silent123> becouse in win we get software to create whole image which is lot easier
[10:42] <rustychicken> Dr_willis: how generic are those links, are they like ->/usr/bin/binaryfoo.12.4.releasecandidate4.2 or are they like ->/usr/bin/foo ?
[10:42] <Scorp_> Guys, how can I know what is slowing the start up of my system ???
[10:43] <Dr_willis> rustychicken,  i think the 'update-alternatives' system has a lot of links to various things.. there may be others. I nmever  backup all of /etc/ just a few select config files.
[10:43] <rustychicken> Silent123: any software setting that are specific to you are stored in /home/username
[10:43] <Ayabara> I'm gonna give video editing on my laptop a chance. What should I use to capture/edit video from a mini-dv Canon camera?
[10:43] <Commie_Jebus> http://gizmodo.com/5034839/windows-vista-pwned-by-web-exploit-that-cant-be-stopped
[10:43] <asdfasdfasdf> here is my issue: i got this network        eth0 192.168.30.1 (windows xp) ->  eth0 192.168.30.9 (ubuntu server) -> openvpn tap0 192.168.30.10  (ubuntu server openvpn server) -> openvpn tap0 192.168.30.11 (windows client)
[10:44] <Silent123> you mean to say after freah installation of Os i have to install the software too ?
[10:44] <rustychicken> Commie_Jebus: heh.  color me surprised.  *not*
[10:44] <asdfasdfasdf> how can i link 192.168.30.1 to 192.168.30.11 in order to get broadcast up and running?
[10:44] <asdfasdfasdf> tnx
[10:44] <joejoecircusboy> asdfasdfasdf: you built a vpn between two computers on the same network?
[10:44] <alraune> Silent123:hdcopy is the only 100% way of backup; whenever I reinstalled, many things (as my needs) changed in between, so i was more fond of doing a new config, of course not collecting all the soft, and of course always backed up user data
[10:45] <Silent123> can you tell me a software that does hd copy for linux ?
[10:45] <asdfasdfasdf> joejoecircusboy: i build a vpn between two computers
[10:45] <asdfasdfasdf> the third one (30.1) connect not ciphered to the vpn server
[10:45] <Silent123> becouse all the time installing softwre from scratchn is troublesome
[10:46] <asdfasdfasdf> what i need to do is to link the two networks
[10:46] <rustychicken> Silent123: To copy complete HDs or partitions, you can use Clonezilla.  But, if youre going to just copy everything back, it may be pointless.
[10:46] <asdfasdfasdf> on the same class in order to recieve clearly broadcasts
[10:46] <joejoecircusboy> asdfasdfasdf: so 2 systems, 4 IP address, 1 IP network, correct?
[10:46] <asdfasdfasdf> yes
[10:46] <rustychicken> Silent123: If you use the list of currently installed programs, installing programs becomes very easy
[10:46] <joejoecircusboy> asdfasdfasdf: ya, that'll be fun :)
[10:46] <Grobvok> Where are the .deb packages downloaded from Add/Remove?
[10:46] <asdfasdfasdf> Server broadcasting -> server opevpn --------- client openvpn
[10:47] <rustychicken> Grobvok: i would just like to as: why do you need to know?
[10:47] <joejoecircusboy> asdfasdfasdf: So, to get the traffic to flow through the encrypted tunnel, you'll need to assign a more narrow route to the other machine, through the tun interface
[10:47] <joejoecircusboy> asdfasdfasdf: make sense?
[10:47] <rustychicken> *ask
[10:47] <asdfasdfasdf> you mean the broadcasting server?
[10:47] <asdfasdfasdf> i cant touch it
[10:47] <Grobvok> rustychicken: Because I have partially downloaded a big package and I want to remove it.
[10:48] <bullgard4> ikonia: On two Ubuntu 8.04 laptops the module fuse is installed. But on one Gparted shows the NTFS partitions as "can't read the contents of this partition". How to troubleshoot?
[10:48] <asdfasdfasdf> thaz the main prob.
[10:48] <Silent123> but i installed the programs from softawre a manager and deleting/ corroption of OS will lose the instaltion of the software ?
[10:48] <joejoecircusboy> asdfasdfasdf: what do you mean by 'broadcast' exactly... do you mean 'transmit', or use of the broadcast address?
[10:48] <asdfasdfasdf> i cant touch the broadcasting server
[10:48] <asdfasdfasdf> it means it sends some udp packets over a port in broadcast
[10:48] <asdfasdfasdf> and that's what i need tog et
[10:48] <joejoecircusboy> asdfasdfasdf: sec, let me re-read
[10:49] <rustychicken> Silent123: reinstalling the OS will lose the currently install programs, yes.
[10:49] <Silent123> but i dont want that :(
[10:49] <Grobvok> Can anyone tell me where the packages from Add/Remove are downloaded?
[10:49] <asdfasdfasdf> i need to a have a working link between the broadcasting server and the client on the other side of the vpn
[10:49] <Silent123> i want when i restore image all will be back to old state
[10:49] <Silent123> like win
[10:49] <joejoecircusboy> asdfasdfasdf: oh, you're using tap
[10:49] <Silent123> image creation
[10:49] <Silent123>  :@
[10:49] <rustychicken> Grobvok: My suggestion would be to use Synaptic (System > Administration > Synaptic Package manager), i think it will clear out any of those things automatically
[10:50] <ubuntu> rg
[10:50] <asdfasdfasdf> i am using tap
[10:50] <asdfasdfasdf> would you suggest tun?
[10:50] <rustychicken> Silent123: so, you basically want to roll back to your current state - ie before something gets messed up?
[10:50] <joejoecircusboy> asdfasdfasdf: ok, so essentially you can look at it as two physical network you're running... (the real physical one, and the encrypted one)
[10:51] <pjvandehaar> so if i install loads of stuff in synaptic and then uninstall it does it leave files behind and still take up energy?
[10:51] <Silent123> yes
[10:51] <Silent123> exactly
[10:51] <pjvandehaar> * oops i meant space
[10:51] <joejoecircusboy> asdfasdfasdf: and each machine has two interfaces, one on each network
[10:51] <rustychicken> Silent123: okay...sorry it took me so long to understand that...seems I'm kind of slow tonight.
[10:51] <Silent123> np :)
[10:52] <Silent123> so can it be done any ways ?
[10:52] <joejoecircusboy> asdfasdfasdf: we on the same page so far?
[10:52] <asdfasdfasdf> the broadcasting server has just one interface connected on openvpn server on eth0
[10:52] <rustychicken> Silent123: then you will want to use Clonezilla
[10:52] <asdfasdfasdf> but is not using a crypted segment
[10:52] <Silent123> do i have back up both /home and /root
[10:52] <asdfasdfasdf> the openvpn server sees everyone
[10:52] <joejoecircusboy> (05:46:31 AM) joejoecircusboy: asdfasdfasdf: so 2 systems, 4 IP address, 1 IP network, correct?  <<< so this is wrong (there are 3 systems?)
[10:52] <Silent123> images ?
[10:52] <asdfasdfasdf> 3 systems
[10:53] <asdfasdfasdf> a broadcasting server
[10:53] <asdfasdfasdf> an openvpn server
[10:53] <rustychicken> Silent123: i would backup the entire drive, or at least all of the Ubuntu partitions
[10:53] <asdfasdfasdf> a client
[10:53] <rustychicken> Silent123: what are you backing up to?
[10:53] <asdfasdfasdf> i need to get the broadcast on the client
[10:53] <Silent123> i have other os installed in the hd
[10:53] <Silent123> only 2 partion for ubu
[10:53] <Hybrid> i have some problems with my usb's because none of ports will detect anything, could someone help me out?
[10:54] <De[X]tone> can i have dual gateway on same iface ? my eth0 and the alias eth0:0 ?
[10:54] <rustychicken> Silent123: then i would just backup whatever partitions are in use by Ubuntu
[10:54] <Silent123> ok
[10:54] <Silent123> i am trying that
[10:54] <Silent123> thanks
[10:54] <rustychicken> np
[10:54] <Hybrid> heres my case but no one seems to know anything about it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=882764
[10:54] <rustychicken> Silent123: Actually, one sec, i may have a very useful link for you
[10:55] <joejoecircusboy> asdfasdfasdf: how many physical networks do you have?
[10:56] <Silent123> pls
[10:56] <Silent123> give
[10:56] <rustychicken> Silent123: This page is not up-to-date yet, but I will try to get somebody to update it with how to get Clonezilla running and everything.  So, basically, just keep an eye on this page: http://ticc.mines.edu/csm/wiki/index.php/Imaging_Guide
[10:56] <asdfasdfasdf> i got 1 phisical interface on the first maching (the broadcastin one)
[10:57] <asdfasdfasdf> 2 phisical on the openvpn server
[10:57] <Silent123> thanks
[10:57] <asdfasdfasdf> 1 phisical interface on the client
[10:57] <asdfasdfasdf> which is over the internet
[10:57] <asdfasdfasdf> so
[10:57] <rustychicken> Silent123: np, good luck!  have fun messing around (its a great way to learn).
[10:57] <joejoecircusboy> asdfasdfasdf: oh! Ok, that makes more sense now
[10:57] <erry-> hi how do i add another virtual disk to a machine
[10:57] <Silent123> :) thanks again i will try my best
[10:57] <erry-> Do i have to delete my first one and install again to the second :(
[10:58] <erry-> please answer
[10:58] <asdfasdfasdf> broadcasting server IP 192.168.30.223 -------> *openvpn server eth0 192.168.30.1 ------> tap0 192.168.30.10 openvpn server*-------> 192.168.30.11 client over vpn
[10:58] <asdfasdfasdf> the openvpn link is already estabilished
[10:58] <erry-> Oh pk
[10:58] <erry-> i see
[10:58] <erry-> if your not gonna help me
[10:59] <erry-> i dont care
[10:59] <erry-> ill find it out myself
[10:59] <rustychicken> Hybrid: it may take awhile for the Ubuntu forums to respond, sometimes it seems that people are more active during the week, sometimes it seems they are more active during the weekend
[10:59] <FloodBot2> erry-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:59] <joejoecircusboy> asdfasdfasdf: can you pint the XP machine from the broadcast machine?
[10:59] <erry-> i dont even need you
[10:59] <joejoecircusboy> *ping
[10:59] <erry-> stupid unhelpful people
[10:59] <asdfasdfasdf> nope
[10:59] <rustychicken> erry: perhaps if you stopped calling us "stupid unhelpful people", we would be more inclined to acquiesce to your request
[11:00] <bazhang> he quit
[11:00] <rustychicken> darn...
[11:00] <Dr_willis> I was going to give him a full refund!
[11:00] <rustychicken> Dr_willis: you too!?
[11:00] <Grobvok> erry is a she
[11:00] <asdfasdfasdf> i can just ping everything from my openvpn server
[11:01] <Dr_willis> Grobvok,  Bah! we all know girls cant handle computers!   :)
[11:01]  * Dr_willis ducks.
[11:01] <asdfasdfasdf> i got no clear link between the xp server and the xp client
[11:01] <joejoecircusboy> asdfasdfasdf: hm
[11:01] <kane77> hmm.. I don't get these people, they want help and yet they offend you..
[11:01] <bazhang> !ot
[11:01] <joejoecircusboy> asdfasdfasdf: I think you need to create a bridge
[11:01] <asdfasdfasdf> i know
[11:01] <Dr_willis> kane77,  yep..  they want their Moneys worth!
[11:02] <rustychicken> Dr_willis: and everybody wonders why there's no women in foss...
[11:02] <asdfasdfasdf> i'll need some assistance for it
[11:02] <joejoecircusboy> asdfasdfasdf: http://openvpn.net/index.php/documentation/miscellaneous/ethernet-bridging.html
[11:02] <rustychicken> kane77: welcome to tech support
[11:02] <redleer> !xmms
[11:03] <rustychicken> well gentlemen (and ladies), it is past my bedtime, goodnight
[11:04] <rustychicken> i always hated xmms because i thought the interface was terrible.  and now i cant live without vlc.  go figure.
[11:06] <dextone> can i have dual gateway on same iface ? my eth0 and the alias eth0:0 ?
[11:08] <Dazed42> Morning.
[11:08] <Dazed42> I'm newish to ubuntu.
[11:08] <Dazed42> I installed it yesterday...
[11:09] <Dazed42> ... and spent 5 hours just getting ventrillo to work in it.
[11:09] <Grobvok> Dazed42: Do you need help with Ubuntu?
[11:10] <Dazed42> Eh, I dunno.
[11:10] <kenkku> !ask | Dazed42
[11:10] <kenkku> meh. that wasn't good.
[11:10] <Dazed42> Not really, I'm just tryign to learn more.
[11:10] <Dazed42> Like... see some really cool stuff you can't do in windows.
[11:10] <kenkku> Dazed42: this is a support channel, it's intended for support requests. you probably won't learn much here
[11:11] <Dazed42> I turned the animation settings up and was pretty pleased with it.
[11:11] <bullgard4> On two Ubuntu 8.04 laptops the module fuse is installed. But on the T42, Gparted shows the NTFS partitions as "can't read the contents of this partition". How to troubleshoot?
[11:11] <Dazed42> The way it like wobbles when you drag windows around.
[11:11] <Dazed42> I wanted to try Beryl or compiz fsion but I dont see them in the package installer lists.
[11:11] <pjvandehaar> im really interested in learning more about linux and ubuntu in general- anyone know where a good tutorial is?
[11:11] <kenkku> Dazed42: if you like tweaking, install ccsm and tune the effects yourself
[11:11] <Dazed42> What is ccsm?
[11:12] <kenkku> Dazed42: compiz configuration utility
[11:12] <jazzkutya> Dazed42: wobbling windows are already compiz stuff
[11:12] <Dazed42> Yeah, I was pleasently surprised to see that they were included in ubuntu by default tho
[11:12] <kenkku> Dazed42: install compizconfig-settings-manager
[11:12] <Dazed42> but not as many effects as beryl or compiz from what i say
[11:12] <Dazed42> saw
[11:13] <Dazed42> *
[11:13] <Dazed42> Okay here's a real question
[11:13] <kenkku> Dazed42: then you'll find "Advanced desktop effects settings" in system -> preferences
[11:13] <Dazed42> I see I have this package manager right
[11:13] <Dazed42> IWith a list that updates
[11:13] <Dazed42> And i can search through it
[11:13] <Dazed42> But it doesnt have "everything" in it
[11:13] <kenkku> enable universe and multiverse
[11:13] <Dazed42> so if i go google and find some tar.gz files
[11:14] <kenkku> that'll get you more
[11:14] <Dazed42> i notice i cant jsut install them like exes
[11:14] <kenkku> still not all, but most of everything that you'll ever need
[11:14] <Dazed42> Do i have to do some command line stuff to isntall those?
[11:14] <kenkku> yes, .tar.gz files are usually source code archives
[11:14] <kenkku> you need to compile them
[11:14] <Dazed42> Or can i import them into the package installer somehow
[11:14] <kenkku> try searching for a package first
[11:14] <Dr_willis> Dazed42,  learn to use the package manager.. and explore the package manager.. it is your friend. :)
[11:14] <Dazed42> Or is there a gui app in ubuntu for compiling?
[11:14] <kenkku> no
[11:14] <kenkku> you must do it by hand from the terminal
[11:15] <Dazed42> okay, that's good to know
[11:15] <Dazed42> I haven't compiled anything yet.
[11:15] <kenkku> and it won't install the needed depedencies automatically either, like the package manager
[11:15] <Dr_willis> Dazed42,  and learn about 'repositories' you add to the package manager list of 'packages' to expand the programs in the package manager listing
[11:15] <Dazed42> Aha
[11:15] <Dazed42> Well im on my xp boot right now
[11:15] <Dazed42> im gonna get on linux so i can play with it :D
[11:15] <kenkku> Dazed42: you might want to enable universe in software sources
[11:16] <Dazed42> Okay
[11:16] <kenkku> Dazed42: that'll get you a LOT of packages
[11:16] <Dazed42> give me a sec
[11:16] <Dazed42> which irc client should i grab?
[11:16] <Dazed42> for ubuntu
[11:16] <Dazed42> im using mirc here
[11:16] <Dazed42> What do you like?
[11:16] <jazzkutya> isn't universe enabled by default? i don't remember enabling it
[11:16] <pjvandehaar> pidgin
[11:16] <kenkku> well, personally I like irssi. but it's text-mode only
[11:16] <kenkku> jazzkutya: I don't know.. it might be
[11:16] <Dazed42> pidgin does irc too?
[11:16] <Dazed42> wow
[11:16] <pjvandehaar> dazed42: pidgin or irssi
[11:17] <Dazed42> HAve you guys heard of an xfire plugin for pidgin?
[11:17] <pjvandehaar> dazed42: yes, its quite easy
[11:17] <issyl0> Dazed42, you could always use Xchat, but personally I use Irssi.
[11:17] <Dazed42> okay ill brb :D
[11:17] <jazzkutya> Dazed42: i recommend x-chat (not the gnome one)
[11:17] <jazzkutya> Dazed42: try them all and choose
[11:17] <Dazed42> I will get that one then
[11:17] <pjvandehaar> issyl0: xchat is easy, but not as easy or nice as pidgin or irssi
[11:18] <Dazed42> brbbbbb!
[11:18] <jazzkutya> pjvandehaar: i guess xchat is perfect for someone switching from mirc
[11:19] <issyl0> pjvandehaar: Pidgin isn't a proper IRC client and Irssi, for new or users not used to text-only commandline, is hard.  And Xchat, considering he's going from mIRC is good.
[11:19] <pjvandehaar> jazzkutya: you'd know better than me, i guess since i dont know what mirc is like
[11:20] <pjvandehaar> illyl0: irc is pretty much command line anyways, unless you use smillies
[11:21] <kindofabuzz> Kvirc ftw
[11:21] <Dazed42> I have returned.
[11:22] <pjvandehaar> dazed42: with what?
[11:22] <Dazed42> So... How do I stop orca from starting at startup?
[11:22] <Dazed42> I chose to enable it during isntall
[11:22] <Dazed42> now its being annoying as all hell
[11:23] <Dazed42> How can I edit the "Startup entries"
[11:23] <Dazed42> ?
[11:24] <pjvandehaar> dazed42: isnt there a edit>preferences menu option?
[11:24] <Dazed42> In orca?
[11:24] <Dazed42> Yeah
[11:24] <Dazed42> but it doesn't have a thing to disable starting on boot
[11:24] <pjvandehaar> no tabs?
[11:25] <Dazed42> There is
[11:25] <Dazed42> But again
[11:25] <Dazed42> not that option there
[11:25] <Dazed42> I found this session manager thing
[11:25] <Dazed42> that seems to be similar
[11:25] <pjvandehaar> oh. well, then probably need to edit some text file
[11:25] <Dazed42> i set it to have only pidgin in it
[11:25] <pjvandehaar> but i dont know
[11:25] <Dazed42> and pidgin starts
[11:25] <Dazed42> But orca starts too
[11:25] <Dazed42> and its not in there
[11:25] <Grobvok> Dazed42: Go to System -> Preferences -> Assistive Technologies
[11:26] <Grobvok> Dazed42: Click on Preferred Applications
[11:26] <Dazed42> ahhhhh!
[11:26] <Dazed42> run at start
[11:26] <Dazed42> thank you
[11:26] <Dazed42> :D
[11:26] <bullgard4> On two Ubuntu 8.04 laptops the module fuse is installed. But on the T42, Gparted shows the NTFS partitions as "can't read the contents of this partition". How to troubleshoot?
[11:26] <intreq> hi guys
[11:26] <intreq> how u doing?
[11:27] <Dazed42> i really like the default "high" animation settings for ubuntu
[11:27] <Dazed42> quite impressed
[11:28] <Dazed42> I think im ready to try compiz tho
[11:28] <kenkku> compiz is what you're seeing
[11:28] <Dr_willis> Dazed42,   just fluff.. :) learn the core stuff! the meat and taters! not the dessert!
[11:28] <kenkku> it just uses quite mild default settings
[11:28] <Dazed42> Oh, compiz comes with ubuntu?
[11:28] <Dr_willis> !compiz | Dazed42
[11:28] <Dazed42> Sweet
[11:28] <Dr_willis> Dazed42,  correct.
[11:29] <Dazed42> would it be worthwhiel to check out beryl too?
[11:29] <kenkku> Dazed42: install compizconfig-settings-manager and you can enable anything you like in it
[11:29] <kenkku> Dazed42: no. beryl is deprecated
[11:29] <jazzkutya> btw preferred applications... how can i setup so movies play in mplayer but audio files in amarok?
[11:29] <Dazed42> ok
[11:29] <Dazed42> so ill try to find that manager package
[11:29] <kenkku> Dazed42: compiz fusion is what comes with ubuntu and it's the latest one
[11:29] <Dazed42> oh btw
[11:30] <Dazed42> where do i enable that "universe" you were talking about?
[11:30] <kenkku> there used to be compiz and beryl, beryl was a fork of compiz that had more eye candy but less stability. now we have compiz fusion, which is the two in one
[11:30] <Dazed42> Nice
[11:30] <kenkku> Dazed42: it might be enabled by default, but system-administration-software sources
[11:30] <Rozza> Ok, I installed Ubuntu server 64bit 7.10, and i try to complie something, it says there isnt a c++ complier, so i try to type sudo apt-get install c++ , And it says it cant find it... is it the right code or what..?
[11:30] <bullgard4> The DEB program package ntfs-3g is installed. What is the path and filename of the read-write NTFS driver for FUSE?
[11:31] <kenkku> Rozza: g++ is the package
[11:31] <Grobvok> Rozza: Type sudo apt-get install g++
[11:31] <Dazed42> Yeah it is on universe by default
[11:31] <kenkku> Dazed42: ok, good
[11:31] <Rozza> ah ok, Thanks =)
[11:32] <Dazed42> btw
[11:32] <Dr_willis> bullgard4,  you can either use the mount command with 'ntfs-3g' as the filesystem, or the 'ntfs-3g' command I belive... depending on what you are trying to do
[11:32] <Dazed42> what is with this "hardy heron" and "gutsy gibbon"
[11:32] <Dazed42> how do i know which one i have?
[11:32] <perfector> cwillu, hey
[11:32] <Dr_willis> Dazed42,  top secret code names. :)
[11:33] <Dazed42> ooh
[11:33]  * N3bunel saluta
[11:33] <Grobvok> Dazed42: type in a terminal lsb_release -a
[11:33] <Dazed42> Hardy
[11:33] <Dazed42> Is that good? :D
[11:33] <kenkku> hardy is the newest
[11:34] <perfector> Gnea, hi
[11:34] <Dazed42> is it just a name given to the versions?
[11:34] <bullgard4> bullgard4: As I said, I'd like to know the path and the filename of the driver.
[11:34] <kenkku> yep
[11:34] <Dazed42> older ubuntu = gutsy?
[11:34] <kenkku> Dazed42: they go alphabetically, except the first two or three ones
[11:34] <kenkku> Dazed42: so h is newer than g
[11:34] <bullgard4> Dazed42: yes.
[11:34] <Dazed42> Cool
[11:34] <kenkku> next one is i, intrepid ibex
[11:35] <kenkku> Dazed42: also, the version NUMBER is something like x.yy, where x is the year and yy is the month. example: 8.04 = 2008/04, 7.10 = 2007/10
[11:35] <pjvandehaar> something like dapper, edgy, fiesty, gutsy, hardy, intrepid
[11:35] <Dazed42> Im using pidgin for irc right now, do you know how to disable it from telling me when people join and leave the channel
[11:35] <Dazed42> its hella spammy
[11:35] <Dr_willis> Dazed42,  i would say get a different irc client.
[11:36] <Dazed42> roger that
[11:36] <pjvandehaar> dazed42:addons
[11:36] <jazzkutya> Dazed42: try x-chat, but not the gnome version
[11:36] <pjvandehaar> dazed42: if you dont care about msn or aim, definitely xchat
[11:37] <kaoron> Hi people! I'm experiencing some screen or system lockups on Hardy, with envy drivers for nvidia 7050 onboard gpu. It happens when I use some app related to hw accelerated graphics (firefox + compiz or qtdemo usually make it crash), driver is loaded fine, nothing on log after reboot, usually make some repeated pattern on screen, cannot switch to VT but something happens back since screen changes to dark and returns to pattern w
[11:37] <kaoron> hen returning to X, same with X reboot. Sysrq works fine and let me reboot. Any idea to solve this? (xcuse my bad english plz :) )
[11:37] <kenkku> Dazed42: might be /ignore JOINS PARTS
[11:37] <Dazed42> unknown command :P
[11:37] <kenkku> okay. then it isn't
[11:37] <Dazed42> thats ok
[11:37] <Dazed42> ill get xchat after
[11:37] <Dazed42> i just got the compiz manager
[11:37] <Dazed42> how exciting :D
[11:38] <Dazed42> ive seen a lot of vids on youtube about how pimpin it is
[11:38] <Rozza> whats the irc clients for ssh?
[11:38] <Rozza> client*
[11:38] <pjvandehaar> dazed42: in pidgin there are addons for things like hiding join/leave messages
[11:38] <Dazed42> yeah im gonna have to learn how to do addons
[11:38] <Dazed42> i want to have xfire on my pidgin too
[11:38] <pjvandehaar> dazed42: buddy list window tools>plugins
[11:39] <Slida> Hi is it still not possible to watch bluraydisc's in linux?
[11:39] <pjvandehaar> dazed42: then join/part hiding
[11:39] <Dazed42> nice
[11:39] <Dazed42> too bad the xfire one isnt in there by default
[11:40] <Dillizar> i cant down load things from some pages "One or more of the parameters required to process your download request were missing"
[11:40] <jum> hey guys, ive plugged in my usb headset during ubuntu is running, after a few seconds it is listed under lsusb. ok then in want to hear some music via the headset and therefore i go under pavucontrol >> move stream >> but then there is the usb headset not listed. what can i do to listen to musivc via the headset?
[11:40] <Dazed42> nice theyre ignored now
[11:40] <mrynit> is there a way through apt to install the 2.6.25 kernel in 8.04? i am on .2.624-20-generic
[11:40] <Dazed42> lol!
[11:40] <Slida> slida
[11:40] <Dazed42> theres an "ADD helper" in the accessibility options for compiz
[11:40] <feihung1> aiii
[11:40] <Aikon> what's the best way to use a text file of filenames as the input source for cp?
[11:40] <Slida> Slida
[11:40] <Dazed42> Im gonna use that
[11:41] <Dazed42> for my ADD
[11:41] <Dazed42> lol
[11:41] <pjvandehaar> dazed42: did you see where it lets you choose which ones are ignored?
[11:41] <ozkelligirl> hi all
[11:41] <Dazed42> Hm.. there was just a plugin called ignore joins parts
[11:41] <Dazed42> and i clicked it
[11:41] <Dazed42> if thats what you mean
[11:41] <pjvandehaar> dazed42: you will still by default see join/leave messages for active members of a conversation
[11:42] <evariste> How can I check for failed and successful SSH logins on my computer?
[11:42] <Dazed42> thats cool
[11:42] <Dazed42> it stopped spamming me tho
[11:42] <Dazed42> so im happy
[11:42] <pjvandehaar> dazed42:by default, only people talking within last 10 minutes
[11:42] <Dazed42> perfect
[11:42] <pub> has anyone gotten TeamSpeak to work on Ubuntu Hardy 8.04
[11:42] <Dazed42> i thought team speak had a working linux version
[11:42] <Dazed42> try getting vent to work ;)
[11:43] <pub> Dazed42 vent works, just not speech; it works for 2 seconds then cuts off.. then have to hit setup again, haha
[11:43] <Dazed42> i got my speech to work!
[11:43] <Dazed42> it was the first thing i did after installing ubuntu
[11:43] <Dazed42> took me 5 hours man
[11:43] <Dillizar> i cant down load things from some pages "One or more of the parameters required to process your download request were missing"
[11:43] <pub> Dazed, it works for me but not always
[11:43] <pub> You have TeamSpeak ?
[11:44] <Dazed42> nope
[11:44] <Dazed42> vent
[11:44] <pub> Your vent works ?
[11:44] <Dazed42> yes
[11:44] <Dazed42> i had to download this alsa mixer gui thing tho
[11:44] <Dazed42> and tweak it for an hour
[11:44] <pub> even while you have other programs in focus ?
[11:44] <Grobvok> Aikon: for FILE in $(cat input_file); do cp "$FILE" "[location]"; done
[11:44] <Dazed42> no
[11:44] <Dazed42> the hot key doesnt work unless its in focus
[11:44] <pub> Ah, i did that in 20minutes; lol
[11:44] <Dazed42> but
[11:44] <Dazed42> theres a little app i read about that fixes that
[11:44] <Dazed42> seemed liek too much trouble for a newb like me tho
[11:45] <Grobvok> Aikon: The files shouldn't have spaces in their names.
[11:45] <Dazed42> had to actually compile stuff
[11:45] <pub> How did you fix the whole can't speak after 2 seconds
[11:45] <newk> anyone use amsn? not loggin in for me ???
[11:45] <intreq> i use msn
[11:45] <pub> because then i have to hit setup again then escp and i can talk
[11:45] <intreq> is loggin for me
[11:45] <Dazed42> oh i had that problem
[11:45] <newk> intreq: amsn?
[11:45] <Dazed42> change the mixer to "none" i think fixes it
[11:45] <pjvandehaar> newk: i believe pidgin can also do msn messenger
[11:46] <Dannyboyni> hi everyone could someone possibily help me with a problem i am having with iptables
[11:46] <jorgg> Is it right that when running mplayer it should trigger an ACPI event? I have a problem with my backlight which turns off when running mplayer!
[11:46] <newk> pjvandehaar: it doesnt do webcam
[11:46] <pub> Dazed42 Nope :(
[11:46] <kenkku> !ask | Dannyboyni
[11:46] <Aikon> Grobvok: cool thanks. what about piping the output of awk or grep into it? I'm a fuzzy on the syntax
[11:46] <pub> Dazed42 I am only able to hit my push to talk key once ( within a 2-3 duration) then it doesn't work again
[11:46] <Dazed42> i had that too
[11:46] <Dazed42> play with the vent settings and it fixes
[11:47] <Dazed42> like ccheck/uncheck the use direct sound boxexz
[11:47] <comet> hello I want to enable 3d animation on my gnome .04desktop how can I set it by default in ubuntu
[11:47] <Dazed42> and play with the mixer drop downs
[11:47] <pjvandehaar> comet: compiz
[11:47] <kenkku> comet: system-preferences-appereance-visual effects
[11:47] <Dillizar> i cant down load things from some pages "One or more of the parameters required to process your download request were missing"
[11:47] <pub> Well that fixed the whole 1 time thing, but now no speech -_-
[11:47] <Dazed42> lol
[11:48] <Dannyboyni> Hi i have just installed torrentflux b4rt 1.0-beta2 onto my ovh server which is running, ubuntu 8.04 lts desktop edition, i am noticing reduced speeds on upload and download when running torrents on torrentflux, i need to forward the correct ports which are 49000-49990 port range, how would i forward these ports using iptables, as i am having difficulty
[11:48] <Dazed42> theres like 10 settings between vent, sound preferences, and alsa mixer, and they all have to be set to the right thing
[11:48] <Dazed42> is like sudoku lol
[11:48] <Dexikiix> GOOD NEWS!
[11:48] <Dexikiix> I got my facebook plugin in pidgin working!
[11:48] <comet> kenkku:  thanks, so can I have the desktop to come that way by default?
[11:48] <pub> Yeah, but my alsa mixer always defaults itself to something else and i have to mess with it everytime i want to speak, haha
[11:48] <Grobvok> Aikon: Don't know.
[11:48] <Dazed42> oh yeah, and the wine sound settings too
[11:49] <newk> anyone out there using amsn and gettting it workin ?
[11:49] <Dazed42> maybe mien screwed up too, i havent tried it since last night, lemme check
[11:49] <kenkku> comet: you just need to enable the effects there. once you do that, it'll remember it
[11:49] <pjvandehaar> comet: and make sure to hit close, not cancel
[11:50] <Dazed42> yeah my vent is still working good
[11:50] <Dazed42> i can give you my settings if you like
[11:50] <pub> Yes, i would love you forever.
[11:50] <Dazed42> output device: CHECK use direct sound, default device
[11:50] <Dazed42> input device: UNCHECK direct sound, default device
[11:51] <Dazed42> mixer none
[11:51] <Dazed42> line volume max
[11:51] <Dazed42> thats it for vent
[11:51] <Dazed42> then in wine
[11:51] <Dazed42> audio
[11:51] <pub> Hang on
[11:51] <pub> actually i should be on default desktop
[11:51] <pub> i am under fluxbox right now
[11:51] <pub> give me one moment
[11:51] <Dazed42> sure
[11:52] <Dazed42> i couldnt get it to work with cedega
[11:53] <pub> Cedega?
[11:53] <pjvandehaar> with xubuntu and kubuntu, i could change my default session at the login screen- could i get fluxbuntu to work this way just to check it out?
[11:53] <Dazed42> its like wine
[11:53] <Dazed42> but seems more professional
[11:53] <pub> Oh, I just use WINE lol
[11:54] <Dazed42> in wine audio i have only alsa driver checked
[11:54] <Dazed42> hardwware acceleration to standard
[11:54] <Dazed42> default sample 44100
[11:55] <Dazed42> driver emulation unchecked
[11:55] <Dazed42> in systtem>pref>sound everything is set to alsa
[11:55] <Dazed42> the bottom one is HDA intel (alsa mixer)
[11:56] <redleer> !mount cd
[11:56] <redleer> !mountcd
[11:56] <redleer> !mountiso
[11:56] <Dazed42> then i had to install this "Alsa mixer" from the package manager
[11:56] <Dazed42> theres a thing to make it safe your config too
[11:57] <Dazed42> so it doesnt scrw up randomly later
[11:57] <Dazed42> tell me when youre ready for mixer settings :D
[11:57] <Dazed42> me play with compiz
[11:58] <Dazed42> heres my vent server if you wanna test too
[11:58] <Dazed42> vent4.gameservers.com:4541
[11:58] <pub> Alright Dazed, I just finished, let me restart into ubuntu desktop
[11:58] <Dazed42> kk
[11:58] <sridevi> Dazed42
[11:58] <Dazed42> Yo
[11:59] <Orbulon> Hey Guys, I've been trying to change my screen resolution unsuccesfuly for several weeks now, I have googled the problem multiple times but never seem to be able to fix it
[11:59] <Orbulon> Is there someone who might be able to help me out please?
[11:59] <sridevi> wat is mixer settings????
[11:59] <Dazed42> Your hardware audio mixer
[11:59] <Dazed42> alsa
[11:59] <Dazed42> you can set the volume for capture and playback, etc
[11:59] <alraune> ﻿Orbulon:tried diplayconfig-gtk ?
[11:59] <pub> Alright Dazed, I am back on GNOME :D
[12:00] <pjvandehaar> orbulon: system>preferences>resolution?
[12:00] <sridevi> oh ok
[12:00] <Dazed42> cool
[12:00] <Orbulon> rory@empire:~$ diplayconfig-gtk
[12:00] <Orbulon> bash: diplayconfig-gtk: command not found
[12:00] <Dazed42> do you need the settings i already said
[12:00] <bullgard4> The DEB program package ntfs-3g is installed. What is the path and filename of the read-write NTFS driver for FUSE?
[12:00] <pub> Those settings for ventrilo I messed with them before you said and they worked the best
[12:00] <jasdevan> Orbulon: editing available resolutions in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[12:00] <pub> Now for the WINE config yes, i need that again
[12:00] <pub> If you want, i can connect to your vent and you can talk and i can type back via PM
[12:00] <Dazed42> ﻿(06:54:40 AM) Dazed: in wine audio i have only alsa driver checked
[12:00] <Dazed42> (06:54:51 AM) Dazed: hardwware acceleration to standard
[12:00] <Dazed42> (06:54:55 AM) Dazed: default sample 44100
[12:00] <Dazed42> (06:55:00 AM) Dazed: driver emulation unchecked
[12:00] <Dazed42> (06:55:32 AM) Dazed: in systtem>pref>sound everything is set to alsa
[12:00] <Dazed42> (06:55:40 AM) Dazed: the bottom one is HDA intel (alsa mixer)
[12:00] <FloodBot2> Dazed42: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:00] <Orbulon> jasdevan, the problem is that in the xorg.conf i dont actually appear to have any available resolutions there in the first place
[12:01] <bullgard4> !interpunction Dazed42
[12:01] <jasdevan> Orbulon: does it work if you add them in?
[12:01] <Dazed42> ﻿(06:56:37 AM) Dazed: then i had to install this "Alsa mixer" from the package manager
[12:02] <Dazed42> theres liek 3 alsa mixers in the manager but only this 1 was helpful
[12:02] <wols> bullgard4: dpkg -L ntfs-3g
[12:02] <Hybrid> can i disable just usb 2.0?
[12:02] <wols> Hybrid: afaik yes, it's a separate module. blacklist it
[12:03] <Dazed42> the one you want is "GNOME ALSA Mixer"
[12:03] <Hybrid> ok thx
[12:03] <mandark> can anyone tell me some gud server games
[12:04] <Dazed42> what do you mean
[12:04] <Dazed42> server games
[12:04] <mandark> network games
[12:04] <Dazed42> counter-strike source
[12:04] <jazzkutya> like when you have to serve http requests with a joystick :D
[12:04] <Dazed42> americas army
[12:04] <pub> Alright Dazed sorry I am a bit slow, haha, I just got finsihed with the the bottom one is HDA intel (alsa mixer)
[12:04] <Dazed42> starcraft
[12:04] <Dazed42> thats cool
[12:05] <pub> Now, I probably have this GNOME alsa mixer where could i find it?
[12:05] <Dazed42> apps>sound
[12:05] <Dazed42> sound * video rather
[12:05] <Dazed42> would be the first one on the list
[12:05] <Dazed42> ALSA Mixer
[12:05] <pub> It seems I don't
[12:05] <Dazed42> get it from the package manager
[12:05] <pub> I got the microphpne working via the Volume Control, haha
[12:05] <Dazed42> oh cool
[12:06] <Dazed42> do you still have the 2 second problem?
[12:06] <pub> Wait, I am completing your way
[12:06] <Dazed42> kk
[12:06] <bullgard4> wols: I have asked for one filename. The command that you suggested lists 25 files.
[12:06] <Dazed42> ill take a ss of my mixer settings
[12:06] <mandark> i dont remb a particular game where u fight with ppl...gain experince..u have 2 go 2 diffrent places nd finish taks...i saw a couple of guys playing tat..i dont remb the name
[12:06] <Dazed42> cause its a little confusing
[12:06] <Dazed42> 2moons
[12:06] <Dazed42> ?
[12:06] <OldFarter> i think icwe
[12:06] <Dazed42> every rpg in the last 10 years?
[12:06] <pub> Dazed42, thank you for all the help
[12:06] <OldFarter> ive found my nvidia problem
[12:07] <OldFarter> but i need some help to solve it
[12:07] <Dazed42> Eh, im new to linux
[12:07] <Dazed42> if i can help someone else with this one little problem i conquered
[12:07] <pub> Haha
[12:07] <OldFarter> the proc driver version say its a different version than what i installed
[12:07] <Dazed42> my karma will be good for getting help later :D
[12:07] <OldFarter> so how do i clean out all nvidia drivers?
[12:07] <pub> Alsa-tools, alsa-tools-gui, alsa-utils, aslamixergui, ~ Do I get them al?
[12:08] <Dazed42> hm
[12:08] <pub> There is also gnome-alsamixer
[12:08] <Dazed42> mine shows up in the package manager as GNOME ALSA Mixer
[12:08] <pub> gnome-alsamixer tii s
[12:08] <OldFarter> brb
[12:08] <MrJiM> hi all
[12:08] <Dazed42> the gui one is useless
[12:09] <mandark> i dont remb a particular game where u fight with ppl...gain experince..u have 2 go 2 diffrent places nd finish taks...i saw a couple of guys playing tat..i dont remb the name
[12:09] <Hybrid> where can i blacklist the usb 2.0 module?
[12:09] <Hybrid> im having a hard time finding it
[12:09] <mandark> i dont remb a particular game where u fight with ppl...gain experince..u have 2 go 2 diffrent places nd finish taks...i saw a couple of guys playing tat..i dont remb the name..can u tell me which game it is
[12:09] <pub> Alright Dazed42, i have GNOME ALSA Mixer
[12:09] <mandark> its a linux game
[12:09] <pub> It jlooks just like the Volume Control, haha
[12:09] <Dazed42> yea
[12:10] <Dazed42> im uploading the settigns to imageshack one 1
[12:10] <Dazed42> sec
[12:10] <ghostlines> hi all
[12:10] <pub> Alright, awesome
[12:10] <pjvandehaar> mandark: wesnoth?
[12:10] <ghostlines> what fps's do use guys play?
[12:10] <ghostlines> *u guys
[12:10] <kenkku> ghostlines: tremulous
[12:10] <pub> counter-strike , counter-strike source
[12:10] <pjvandehaar> halo 3
[12:11] <Dazed42> http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/8429/screenshotuu2.png
[12:11] <pjvandehaar> want crysis
[12:11] <ghostlines> counterstrike? under wine?
[12:11] <ghostlines> yeah crysis looks cool
[12:11] <mandark> pjvandehaar; i dont remb the name..its not counterstrike...or so....u have 3 worlds in the game....
[12:11] <MrJiM> anybody can help me with my laptop?
[12:11] <Panda> Guide the windows error
[12:11] <kenkku> mandark: is it realtime or turn-based?
[12:11] <MrJiM> i can't use the bluetooth
[12:11] <pub> Haha Dazed42, mine doesn't look like that
[12:11] <kenkku> !ask | MrJiM
[12:12] <pjvandehaar> panda: i think fps
[12:12] <Dazed42> hmm
[12:12] <mandark> kekku; wat does tat mean
[12:12] <pjvandehaar> panda: nvm
[12:12] <Panda> No
[12:12] <Panda> ntldr is missing
[12:12] <Dazed42> well the important thing seemed to be setting both input sources to rear mic
[12:12] <kenkku> mandark: does the game go on continuously or does it have turns?
[12:12] <Dazed42> and putting both capture devices to half
[12:12] <ghostlines> i like to play true combat elite
[12:13] <ghostlines> that's real fun
[12:13] <mandark> kennu; continously
[12:13] <Dazed42> ntldr is missing means yo are trying to boot from a hd with no os on it
[12:13] <MrJiM> !ask install bluetooth on a laptop HP2510p the wifi is ok but i can't find the internal bluetooth device (work fine on xp). Thanks
[12:13] <Dazed42> change hd boot priority
[12:13] <Panda> Ubuntu guide the windows error. "ntldr is missing"
[12:13] <mandark> as u defeat or perform tasks..u gain experience
[12:13] <Webu> What's wrong if dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg asks only about keyboard and such stuff? I need to get my display settings corrected :-/
[12:13] <pjvandehaar> mandark: you should really be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:14] <mandark> pjvandehaar; its a linux game anyways...can be played on ubuntu
[12:15] <pjvandehaar> mandark: you could check add/remove programs for it
[12:16] <pub> Dazed42, hang on I'll try and get gamix
[12:16] <mandark> pjvandehaar; its a network..has 2 be downloaded....nd played on the network....
[12:16] <kenkku> the best linux game ever is freecell ;)
[12:17] <ghostlines> lol
[12:17] <hosk> robots!
[12:17] <pjvandehaar> mandark: which would mean it could be in add/remove programs
[12:18] <Dazed42> i had to change my package thingy to "All available applications"
[12:18] <Dazed42> it doesnt show up in the normal listing
[12:18] <Dazed42> add/remove applications
[12:18] <Dazed42> is what i used
[12:19] <Dazed42> i dunno if you even need it
[12:19] <wols> bullgard4: and with a little bit of logical thinking you will see which one it is
[12:19] <Dazed42> i needed it cause my mic was working but i it was really staticy and distorted
[12:19] <Dazed42> and also really quiet
[12:19] <pjvandehaar> mandark: balazar
[12:21] <mandark> pjvandehaar; is it... i duuno...must check out..thanxx
[12:21] <pub> Dazed
[12:21] <pub> Could you go into your Volume control
[12:21] <pub> and tell me what your IEC958 Playback source is
[12:21] <pjvandehaar> go to applications>add/remove applications and click "games"
[12:21] <Dazed42> one sec
[12:22] <Dazed42> hm
[12:22] <Dazed42> what does yours say?
[12:22] <Dazed42> i just see boxes i cna check and uncheck
[12:22] <pub> I've been changing it
[12:22] <pub> It's in Options
[12:22] <pub> tab
[12:22] <Hybrid> what does: device description read/64, error -62 mean?
[12:23] <Dazed42> i must have a different volume control than you
[12:23] <Dazed42> oh hm
[12:23] <Dazed42> i guess it could be
[12:23] <Dazed42> 0:
[12:23] <Dazed42> HDA alsa intel mixer
[12:24] <pub> I have PCM, and ADC1-ADC3
[12:24] <pub> lol
[12:24] <Dazed42> ohh
[12:24] <Dazed42> pcm then
[12:24] <Dazed42> i guess
[12:24] <pub> Gosh, now I have horrible feedback from the mic like it's always recording and I hear it.
[12:25] <Dazed42> yeah
[12:25] <Dazed42> turn the volume down
[12:25] <Dazed42> to like halfway
[12:25] <pub> On which
[12:25] <pub> lol
[12:25] <lj> ^_^
[12:25] <Dazed42> capture
[12:25] <Dazed42> and capture1 if you have it
[12:26] <pub> I have Capture, Capture1-2
[12:26] <pub> And theyd idn't change the feeback
[12:26] <Dazed42> put em all to half
[12:26] <Dazed42> are they all enabled?
[12:26] <pub> Yeah, under the Recording Tab
[12:26] <Dazed42> make em all enabled
[12:26] <Dazed42> hm
[12:26] <pub> I have Digital there as well
[12:26] <Dazed42> is iec95 capture checked?
[12:27] <pub> in gamix ?
[12:27] <Dazed42> ya
[12:27] <LunaFreeState> hello
[12:28] <LunaFreeState> need some help with apt-get
[12:28] <ufergus> ask away
[12:28] <Dazed42> exiting ventrilo completely and then restarting it helps too
[12:28] <Dazed42> it seemed like some changes werent taking effect immediately
[12:28] <Dazed42> might have just been the wine ones tho
[12:29] <pub> Ah Dazed, I don't even IEC Capture
[12:29] <pub> I don't have ventrilo or wINE open, heh
[12:29] <LunaFreeState> I am trying to remove a program that I complied and built but I am not sure how unless I do it manually and I don't feel safe sudo mv a bunch of stuff in folders I don't understand
[12:30] <LunaFreeState> it is not part of a package
[12:30] <ufergus> ﻿LunaFreeState: did you install via apt or make install?
[12:30] <LunaFreeState> will apt-get work for this
[12:30] <LunaFreeState> make
[12:30] <ufergus> lots of programs you can do a make uninstall
[12:30] <LunaFreeState> ?
[12:30] <LunaFreeState> have to try that didn't think of it
[12:30] <ufergus> go back to your original source that you compiled
[12:30] <ufergus> and do make uninstall
[12:30] <nich^> check the makefile too, should show you where it installed its files
[12:31] <zaapiel> fo really?
[12:31] <ufergus> next time, use checkinstall if you want to try a package
[12:31] <LunaFreeState> thanks
[12:31] <ufergus> checkinstall runs make install and wraps the files in a nice deb you can remove later
[12:31] <pub> Dazed42 I fixed the feedback problem, it was the Microphone with the horizontal sway bars
[12:31] <LunaFreeState> apt-get check didn't pull up any errors though?
[12:31] <LunaFreeState> deb
[12:31] <LunaFreeState> ?
[12:32] <ufergus> apt-get woudn't know anything about the package you installed
[12:32] <LunaFreeState> still what is a deb?
[12:32] <kenkku> LunaFreeState: a debian package
[12:32] <ufergus> its the package format for ubuntu/debian style distributinos
[12:32] <LunaFreeState> that way apt-get know it?
[12:32] <Dazed42> sweet
[12:32] <ufergus> apt-get downloads and installs deb files
[12:33] <Dazed42> is it all good now?
[12:33] <LunaFreeState> yes
[12:33] <dusty__>  Anyone know of a way to hide the ssh version when you telnet ip 22 ?
[12:33] <kenkku> checkinstall sounds great, btw
[12:33] <Dazed42> what is the button i press to make compiz give me the 3d cube desktopness?
[12:33] <pub> No I still can't find my speech, haha
[12:33] <pub> I forget what i did, I did ita ll in a frantic
[12:34] <pub> Actually, I believe i took a picturre
[12:34] <pub> lol
[12:34] <Dazed42> what do you mean find your speech
[12:34] <Dazed42> hear yourself?
[12:34] <pub> Yeah
[12:34] <Dazed42> what is the line volume slider at in vent
[12:34] <metallion> Hi, everybody...!  Would Kopete work in gnome ?(as my Pidgin don't work anymore : turns in black at start up and there's nothing I can do) Any suggestion, please ?!
[12:34] <Dazed42> all the way to left or all the way right?
[12:34] <pub> Oh, I'm just trying to hear it via the Sound Record on Ubuntu
[12:35] <pub> that's a start :)
[12:35] <ufergus> here is an apt-get primer that may help: http://www.linux.com/articles/40745
[12:35] <Dazed42> if you can find some line setting
[12:35] <Dazed42> turn it up :D
[12:35] <Dazed42> if you cant hear yourself
[12:35] <Dazed42> try blowing in the mic really hard and see if you can hear that faintly
[12:36] <pub> Well
[12:36] <pub> I can show you what I sound like
[12:36] <pub> What was that ventrilo info again
[12:36] <Dazed42> vent4.gameservers.com:4541
[12:36] <pub> this was the best i sounded after 40 tries
[12:37] <Dazed42> yeah my voice quality is still nowhere near as good as on windows
[12:37] <Dazed42> but its usable at least
[12:38] <nich^> dusty__: - hack the binary (i.e. find the version number in sshd and replace it), or recompile from src and replace the ssh_version define.  Why do you need to hide it?
[12:38] <pub> Hostname: vent4.gameservers.com          Port 4541?
[12:38] <Dazed42> yeah
[12:38] <Dazed42> i think
[12:38] <Dazed42> lemme double check
[12:38] <Dazed42> yeah
[12:38] <pub> Hmm
[12:39] <pub> It doesn't seem able to connect
[12:39] <pub> MSG: Contacting server.
[12:39] <Dazed42> try this
[12:39] <Prathibha> HOw to decrypt a file in windows which is encrypted using seahorse in Ubuntu
[12:39] <Dazed42> ventrilo://vent4.gameservers.com:4541/servername=ClanGOAT
[12:39] <Dazed42> put that in firefox
[12:39] <utnubudnai> hey all,could any way to access the clipboard whit just a command line?
[12:39] <gnoshi> hi all: wondering if anyone happens to be an mdadm fiend
[12:40] <Dazed42> actually that mgiht not work in linux :\
[12:40] <Prathibha> HOw to decrypt a file in windows which is encrypted using seahorse in Ubuntu
[12:40] <Prathibha> HOw to decrypt a file in windows which is encrypted using seahorse in Ubuntu
[12:40] <pub> Haha, (ventrilo) isn't associated with any program
[12:40] <Dazed42> yeah
[12:40] <utnubudnai> E.G,echo <CLIPBOARD> > a.txt
[12:40] <Dazed42> i dunno im in that server
[12:40] <Prathibha> How to decrypt a file in windows which is encrypted using seahorse in Ubuntu
[12:40] <pub> Wierd, haha
[12:40] <lakis1982> i have installed kubuntu 8.04.1 kernel 2.6.24.19 update , but when i i boot the pc and  in the menu i select to boot from the new kernel , it doesnt get me into graphical enviroment ... i am in a " dos " like enviroment and i login there and it stays in dos ... it just says this ,  kinit : no resume image , doing normal boot
[12:40] <Dazed42> oh
[12:41] <Dazed42> did you try just disconnecting and connecting again
[12:41] <Prathibha> How to encrypt a whole ubuntu partition
[12:41] <pub> It just says MSG: Contacting server.
[12:41] <pub> If I hit connect it doesn't do anything more
[12:41] <Dazed42> vent4.gameservers.com
[12:42] <utnubudnai> hey all,could any way to access the clipboard whit just a command line?
[12:42] <Dazed42> 4541
[12:42] <Dazed42> thats it
[12:42] <Dazed42> if it doesnt work i think your vent problems extend beyond your mic :P
[12:42] <pub> Haha
[12:43] <Dazed42> in wine settings
[12:43] <Dazed42> go in applications tab
[12:43] <Dazed42> make an entry for ventrilo
[12:43] <Dazed42> and set it to run as winxp
[12:43] <Dazed42> i dunno if that will help
[12:43] <cdoublejj> excuse me will this work with ubuntu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833180017
[12:44] <cdoublejj> cuase thefwcutter package i got didn't work right
[12:44] <booster606> trust your technolust
[12:44] <cdoublejj> the card never connects
[12:46] <Dazed42> how do i add more virtual desktops to my ubuntu session?
[12:46] <cdoublejj> well if can't get an answer i may just spend tat mony on groceries fridge is empty again
[12:46] <guest> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:46] <Dazed42> hmm... high fps.. or food
[12:46] <Dazed42> tough choice
[12:47] <Guest24698> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[12:47] <Guest24698> iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[12:48] <gnoshi> Hey anyone who knows mdadm: My raid array has fallen down as a result of two (perfectly functional) drives dropping off simultaneously (power problem) - now the raid array will only happily re-add 4 of the 6 drives. How does one re-add the remaining two drives?
[12:48] <Guest24698> yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[12:48] <kenkku> Guest24698: please stop that
[12:48] <Guest24698> ok
[12:49] <Guest24698> ooooooooooooooooooooo
[12:49] <Guest24698> key
[12:49] <Dazed42> how do i add more workspaces to my session?
[12:49] <Guest24698> ye
[12:49] <Guest24698> ppppppppppppppppppppppp
[12:50] <kenkku> jpds: thank you
[12:50] <ApOgEE-> Dazed42: right click on your panel
[12:50] <jpds> Dazed42: Right-click the workspaces applet. and press "Preferences"
[12:51] <Dazed42> how do i make a new panel too?
[12:51] <bullgard4> The DEB program package ntfs-3g is installed. What is the path and filename of the read-write NTFS driver for FUSE?
[12:51] <_d4vid> anyone from uzbekistan?? we have new channel for ubuntu users plz help of development of this .. #ubuntu.uz language translators to uzbek language are welcome
[12:52] <Dazed42> oh man
[12:52] <Dazed42> this compiz cube desktop is awesome
[12:52] <Dazed42> nerdgasm
[12:53] <gnoshi> yay! think I got my mdadm problem sorted. Or I've just destroyed all my data. I'll find out in a minute
[12:53] <Dazed42> lol
[12:53] <alraune> ﻿﻿bullgard4:updatedb             , locate fuse  , fuse has to loaded in /etc/modules
[12:53] <gnoshi> looks like the former.
[12:54] <Dazed42> how do i create a new blank panel?
[12:54] <Dazed42> I had 2 but i deleted one
[12:54] <Dazed42> and cant get it back :*(
[12:55] <Dazed42> anyone?
[12:55] <Dazed42> more panel for dazed?
[12:55] <legend2440> Dazed42: right click on panel choose new panel
[12:56] <Dazed42> errrr
[12:56] <Dazed42> thanks
[12:56] <Dazed42> there was no blank spaceo n my panel so i was clicking the little applets
[12:56] <Dazed42> and not having that option come out
[12:58] <joachim-n> /join #drupal
[12:58] <joachim-n> oops
[12:59] <bullgard4> alraune: /etc/modprobe.d/fuse exists. Still Gparted complaints that it cannot read the contents of the NTFS partitions.
[13:00] <alraune> ﻿﻿bullgard4:listed in fstab ? can mount it ?
[13:00] <alraune> ﻿﻿bullgard4: gparted as root ?
[13:03] <bullgard4> alraune: There is no other way in Ubuntu to open Gparted.
[13:03] <newbie_123> :)
[13:03] <Dazed42> zomg
[13:03] <wols> !errors | bullgard4
[13:03] <rinnho> alo
[13:03] <wols> bullgard4: also, can you mount the ntfs partition manually?
[13:03] <Dazed42> compiz is the shit
[13:03] <alraune> ﻿﻿bullgard4:listed in fstab ? can mount it ?
[13:04] <zh> \join #ubuntu-cn
[13:04] <_d4vid> Official Uzbek Ubuntu Support Channel #ubuntu-uz *for download of ubuntu latest stable release use http://ubuntu.uz
[13:05] <Prathibha> How to decrypt a file in windows which is encrypted using seahorse in Ubuntu
[13:05] <Brian88> Is there any overclocking tool like ClockGen in Windows, but for Ubuntu? I am using Ubuntu 8.04 GNOME, Pentium 4 Processor
[13:05] <portablejim> gotten the online desktop working? if so, how?
[13:06] <Brian88> hoi
[13:06] <pub> Dazed42, it seems where you have Rear Mic
[13:06] <pub> I should put Front Mic
[13:07] <pub> but Front Mic always reverts back to 0%
[13:07] <Dazed42> weird
[13:07] <Dazed42> go to the options
[13:07] <Dazed42> and find the save config
[13:07] <Dazed42> after turnign it up
[13:07] <Dazed42> mabe
[13:08] <gyro54> Can I disable or change the process generating locales en-AU.utf8 as my upgrade locked up before it finished
[13:09] <bullgard4> wols: /sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media does not produce any output.
[13:09] <guest> hi
[13:10] <abchirk> hi
[13:10] <danwagon> how do i get my comp to dual boot??
[13:10] <Guest60790> where are u
[13:10] <wols> bullgard4: that's good. then it should be mounted
[13:10] <pub> Dazed42 Why do you have multiple Input Sources
[13:10] <danwagon> as in get windows into grub?
[13:10] <wols> danwagon: dual boot what exactly? generally by adding an entry to menu.lst
[13:10] <Guest60790> my name is gashi
[13:11] <wols> Guest60790: /nick gashi
[13:11] <bazhang> danwagon, which installed first
[13:11] <_d4vid> Official Uzbek Ubuntu Support Channel #ubuntu-uz *for download of ubuntu latest stable release use http://ubuntu.uz
[13:11] <portablejim> hey Guest60790, where in the world are you?
[13:11] <_d4vid> Official Uzbek Ubuntu Support Channel #ubuntu-uz *for download of ubuntu latest stable release use http://ubuntu.uz
[13:11] <bizinichi> Hi
[13:11] <wols> danwagon: did you install windows after ubuntu?
[13:11] <danwagon> I want to be able to load vista without changeing boot devices in setup
[13:11] <Guest60790> i am on here is indonesia
[13:11] <danwagon> yes windows after ubuntu
[13:12] <wols> danwagon: did you change boot devices and then installed windows?
[13:12] <danwagon> yes
[13:12] <Guest60790> hello everybody there u are
[13:12] <wols> danwagon: very bad choice. you probably need either reinstall windows or ask ##windows how to cope if windows suddenly starts from another BIOS device
[13:12] <kenkku> !hi | Guest60790
[13:12] <bazhang> !id | Guest60790
[13:13] <Guest60790> males ah
[13:13] <danwagon> any way to make it appear in grub?
[13:13] <Guest60790> lagi pengen kenalan aj
[13:13] <wols> sure, edit menu.lst. won't help you booting it of course but you can add it
[13:14] <iqson716> _o/
[13:14] <Guest60790> my id
[13:14] <bazhang> Guest60790, /join #ubuntu-id
[13:14] <wols> Guest60790: I told you. /nick gashi
[13:14] <danwagon> can i make it work or not?
[13:15] <wols> danwagon: I dunno since I don't know you
[13:15] <Guest60790> yes, i am gashi
[13:15] <danwagon> thanks ass wipe
[13:15] <bazhang> danwagon, there is a way to make it work;
[13:15] <danwagon> how do i change channel in this shit?
[13:15] <wols> bazhang: can you please act?
[13:15] <bizinichi> I'll find out
[13:15] <bazhang> danwagon, that is uncalled for
[13:15] <danwagon> sory
[13:15] <bazhang> no cursing here
[13:15] <Guest60790> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[13:15] <danwagon> righto
[13:16] <Guest60790> ooooooooooooooo
[13:16] <danwagon> how do i make it work
[13:16] <duncan-nz> This page about the quality of the h.u.c wiki needs comments and input: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpWikiQualityAssurance/talk
[13:16] <bazhang> Guest60790, please stop
[13:16] <danwagon> that other bloke is a turd
[13:16] <Guest60790> ffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
[13:16] <danwagon> unny
[13:16] <wols> bazhang: may I ask if you act now?
[13:16] <danwagon> find some traffic to play in wols, Ya TURD
[13:17] <duncan-nz> bazhang, can I suggest that Guest26316 is banned if three ops can agree?
[13:17] <legend2440> gyro54: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/249340
[13:17] <danwagon> Baz !!!!!!! Help me!!!!!!!!!!
[13:17] <Dazed42> pub: im not sure
[13:17] <bazhang> danwagon, stop calling names first
[13:17] <gyro54> You are a legend
[13:17] <danwagon> sorry
[13:18] <danwagon> can you help?
[13:18] <danwagon> that other **** is being rude
[13:18] <duncan-nz> danwagon, name calling is not allowed here. We're all nice and friendly
[13:18] <bazhang> !grub | danwagon check this link
[13:18] <wols> *I* am rude?
[13:18] <duncan-nz> bazhang, people seem to often ask for help with grub. Am I right?
[13:18] <bazhang> danwagon, the one about recovering after installing windows
[13:19] <bazhang> duncan-nz, care to chat in #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[13:19] <wols> duncan-nz: usually when two disks are in the system and each one has an OS. most people do then foolish things grub can't cope with
[13:19] <danwagon> i dont really need to recover as ubuntu and windows both work fine, its just i have to select between them in setup.
[13:20] <bazhang> danwagon, that link will tell you how to set up grub so you can choose from either one.
[13:20] <duncan-nz> danwagon, that's the whole idea isn't it? Would you prefer one of them staretd automatically?
[13:20] <raw> Hello
[13:21] <raw> My ubuntu are somehow slow. Graphic card is installed correctly.
[13:21] <danwagon> no iwant to choose, but I dont want to have to go into my bios to choose it. You get?
[13:21] <raw> any command i should do to fix any problems may have or to see if missing anything ?
[13:21] <Dazed42> he has it on a second hard drive
[13:21] <bazhang> danwagon, yes, and that link tells how to do so. best to read it.
[13:21] <lokus> how do i get thinks like weather or CPU temp icons on my desktop? ive seen screenshots of this stuff
[13:21] <enzotib> quity
[13:21] <enzotib> qui
[13:21] <enzotib> quit
[13:21] <wols> raw: how much ram and what does glxinfo |grep direct say?
[13:21] <bazhang> lokus with compiz or not
[13:22] <danwagon> Other dickheads might want to read it    I want YOU to talk me through it...
[13:22] <wols> bazhang: that link won't chnage that windows bootloader expects to be BIOS hdd 0x80, will it?
[13:22] <lokus> what is compiz?
[13:22] <raw> wols, am from windows now. i have 2gb ram 2ghz amd turion 64x2
[13:22] <wols> raw: what videocard?
[13:22] <Dazed42> compiz is the visual effects
[13:22] <Dazed42> like cube desktop
[13:22] <raw> ATI
[13:23] <raw> wols, ATI something.
[13:23] <wols> raw: more precise please. what chip?
[13:23] <Brian88> Dukung calon independen! BWAHAHAHA
[13:23] <raw> give a min
[13:23] <raw> to check
[13:23] <lokus> i don't want to change the visual effects..i just want those plugins on my desktop
[13:23] <Brian88> Changcuter.. nyampah disik ah
[13:23] <raw> wols, ATI Radeon X1250
[13:23] <wols> raw: choices are fglrx or ati. but that depends on the chip
[13:23] <dread> why when i connect to my ircd via my static ip im getting ping timeout and when i connect 127.0.0.1 it works fine ?
[13:23] <Wespe> hi, is there somewhat like a blacklist for bash_history so that commands in that blacklist will not appear in the history?
[13:23] <Brian88> kutlah>MILLIKI! bwahaixixix
[13:23] <bazhang> gdesklets lokus
[13:23] <wols> raw: as I said, do the glxinfo command I told you
[13:24] <raw> ok mate
[13:24] <raw> brb to join from ubuntu
[13:24] <theclaw> is it possible to use scrollwheel acceleration on ubuntu hardy? (like it works on os x)
[13:25] <danwagon> how do i change channels in this?
[13:26] <bazhang> type /join #channelname
[13:26] <danwagon> how do i bring up a list of channels in this xchat thing?
[13:27] <SNIa> I installed Ubuntu server. When I ssh -X (for x forwarding) I try to run an app, it says DISPLAY not set. I connect to my Ubuntu desktop it works fine. Any ideas? My sshd_config files are the same
[13:27] <bazhang> !irc | danwagon check last link
[13:27] <dread> why when i connect to my ircd via my static ip im getting ping timeout and when i connect 127.0.0.1 it works fine ?
[13:27] <wols> SNIa: you want to start the X app on the server and display it elsewhere? if so, are xlibs and such installed?
[13:28] <wols> dread: sudo netstat -anp |less   check on which interfaces it listens
[13:28] <tech0007> does envyng work in hardy? i have nvidia 6200.
[13:28] <wols> tech0007: it can work yes. but use normal restricted drivers first
[13:28] <bazhang> tech0007, works here; your mileage may vary
[13:29] <alraune> !grub>alraune
[13:29] <dread> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:6667            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      7514/ircd
[13:29] <tech0007> wols: bazhang; i use nvidia-glx-new and everything works great (video playback, compiz), will it be better if i use envyng ?
[13:29] <dread> why is 0.0.0.0 ?
[13:30] <wols> dread: iptables -L. use a pastebin for the output please
[13:30] <wols> tech0007: no
[13:30] <dread> !pastebin
[13:30] <Dazed42> linux firefox renders webpages uglier than windows firefox :\
[13:31] <wols> Dazed42: it's often the fonts
[13:31] <Dazed42> yes
[13:31] <Dazed42> it is
[13:31] <Dazed42> theyre like all bold
[13:31] <dread> wols, http://paste.ubuntu.com/35838/
[13:31] <Dazed42> when they shouldnt be
[13:31] <tech0007> wols: ok, thankx.
[13:31] <wols> dread: install msttcorefonts
[13:31] <Dazed42> link?
[13:31] <Dazed42> er
[13:31] <dread> for that to take effect?
[13:31] <Dazed42> would that be a package
[13:31] <wols> dread: was for Dazed42. sorry
[13:32] <dread> okay
[13:32] <bazhang> yes
[13:32] <tech0007> just confused, is the restricted driver the same as nvidia-glx-new?
[13:32] <wols> dread: 0.0.0.0 means "Listens on all itnerfaces". localhost and your static IP
[13:32] <wols> tech0007: yes
[13:32] <dread> wols, but why i cant connect with my static ip ?
[13:33] <wols> from where do you try to connect? outside the network back in?
[13:33] <bullgard4> wols, alraune: Thank you for your help.
[13:33] <Drakas> Hello, I installed Ubuntu 8 just now. I have a separate partition for /home . Now, when I installed Opera, and try out (after copying the old fonts back onto the system) Opera, the fonts are reallyyyyy blurred. Same problem is with gnome-terminal, but not with Firefox. Anyone got suggestions?
[13:33] <dread> wols,  outside
[13:33] <dread> from other pc
[13:33] <wols> dread: did you port forward port 6667/tcp to your irc server on your router?
[13:34] <dread> i think yes wait to check please
[13:34] <Dazed42> i installed that core fonts package but it didnt fix anything automatically
[13:34] <Dazed42> how do i enable it or whatever
[13:34] <Hew> Drakas: Where did you get Opera from? Afaik, it's not supported software.
[13:35] <Drakas> Hew: it's nto to do with Opera, really. I've got the same problem with gnome-terminal, font rendering is screwed up here.
[13:35] <Drakas> not *
[13:35] <john_> ola
[13:35] <bazhang> !pt | john_
[13:36] <Hew> Drakas: What do you mean by "copying the old fonts back onto the system"?
[13:36] <SNIa> wols: I'm using ssh -X, which xlibs? hmm.
[13:36] <tech0007> wols: do i need xserver-xgl?
[13:37] <Drakas> Hew: for example, I was using DeJavu Sans Mono font before installing this. It looked very clear before. When I go to something like a text editors, it renders them just fine, but gnome-terminal does not.
[13:37] <SNIa> libxcb-xlib0
[13:37] <john_> hello
[13:37] <Drakas> Hew: Because of the font problem, I copied /alt/usr/share/fonts/truetype/* to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/
[13:37] <Dazed42> which flash plugin fore firefox should i use in linux?
[13:37] <john_> i have some problem with my dvd drive
[13:38] <Dazed42> looks like theres 3 to chsoe from
[13:38] <wols> tech0007: no
[13:38] <john_> i burn a linux dvd
[13:38] <bazhang> Dazed42, the nonfree one
[13:38] <Dazed42> neg
[13:38] <Dazed42> a better question would be
[13:38] <Dazed42> does adobe work on linux
[13:38] <Hew> Drakas: what is /alt? what was your previous installation?
[13:38] <Dazed42> oh
[13:38] <Dazed42> that is the nonfree
[13:38] <bazhang> Dazed42, dont use enter as punctuation
[13:39] <Drakas> Hew: yes
[13:39] <john_> them  i did md5sum -c md5sum.txt inside of dvd and then see in some files OK and in others i see error I/O
[13:39] <john_> what is wrong?
[13:39] <raw> wols are you still here ?
[13:39] <wols> john_: dvd can't be read
[13:39] <Drakas> Hew: I have two installations of Ubuntu. / is the latest, /alt is Ubuntu 7.10
[13:39] <wols> raw: sure
[13:39] <raw> thx mate. sorry i went out to move my car
[13:39] <nybbj> hi can i ask an thing?
[13:39] <john_> some files is ok but others no i see error I/o
[13:40] <Dazed42> hmm
[13:40] <john_> after burning
[13:40] <raw> can you repeat me the command to type in terminal ? wols (something with fglr u said me if i remember good)
[13:40] <dread> wols,  6667 is forward
[13:40] <john_> when i check the dvd
[13:40] <john_> integrity
[13:40] <wols> raw: glxinfo |grep direct
[13:41] <Hew> Drakas: So you had font problems on Hardy, copied the font files from Gutsy, and still have problems?
[13:41] <wols> dread: do you have more than one host in your LAN?
[13:41] <Drakas> Hew: that's right.
[13:41] <raw> wols, direct rendering: Yes
[13:41] <dread>  yes but is forward on the right one
[13:41] <nybbj> eh i get error while deleting, error removing file: permission denied when i try to delete some folders i have created my self, any one know what to do?
[13:41] <wols> raw: then videodrivers should be fine
[13:41] <raw> wols, yes now its fine. i think its because i cleared the cache or something
[13:41] <john_> i have two drives one in master and other in slave
[13:41] <raw> ; ]
[13:42] <john_> someone can help me?
[13:42] <SNIa> john_: just ask
[13:42] <raw> john_, just ask.
[13:42] <SNIa> lol
[13:42] <raw> =)
[13:42] <nybbj> eh i get error while deleting, error removing file: permission denied when i try to delete some folders i have created my self, any one know what to do? :)
[13:42] <john_> i just ask before
[13:43] <wols> nybbj: what are the permissions on the folders? do the folders contain additional file inside which aren't deleted yet?
[13:43] <john_> a problem with my dvd drive and my linux dvd
[13:43] <wols> john_: to an integrity check after you boot from it.
[13:44] <Dazed42> umm.. whats the keyboard shortcut to paste to the terminal?
[13:44] <Hew> Drakas: Perhaps it's a problem with font rendering settings. System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Fonts -> Rendering.
[13:44] <Dazed42> ctrl+v doesnt work :\
[13:44] <john_> is the frst dvd of debian
[13:44] <hosk> shift insert
[13:44] <john_> first dvd
[13:44] <nybbj> well i did copy them from an external hdd, each folder contains allot of other maps, but i want to delete them but cant
[13:44] <hosk> to paste to terminal
[13:44] <Dazed42> weird
[13:44] <kane77> I found a tutorial how to set up Host Interface in Virtualbox (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=346185), but I cannot figure out what do I need to run command tunctl..
[13:44] <raw> i think am gonna move my graphics to none :P its faster
[13:44] <mactimes> Dazed42: Shift+Insert should do, perhaps mouse mid button too.
[13:45] <Drakas> Hew: well, fonts are rendered very well in Firefox, that's the problem; I don't know how to tackle this because parts of the system work fine and parts don't
[13:45] <Drakas> I've got settings at full subpixel hinting (like before) and antialiasing enabled as normal
[13:45] <alraune> ﻿ nybbj:give full path of folder to be deleted...
[13:45] <john_> i have to boot dvd before ???
[13:45] <Dazed42> thanks
[13:46] <mactimes> john_: Is that a Ubuntu CD/DVD?
[13:46] <nybbj> location trash:///
[13:46] <john_> is first dvd of debian
[13:46] <john_> mactimes
[13:46] <mactimes> john_: Check the MD5 hash
[13:47] <mactimes> john_: Maybe your download got corrupted.
[13:47] <john_> i did md5sum -c md5sum.txt inside of debian dvd
[13:47] <nybbj> on permissions it says folder access create and delete files, file access --- and none on next folder access and --- so on
[13:47] <john_> i have 2 drives one in master and other in slave in the same channel
[13:48] <john_> that is problem?
[13:48] <mactimes> john_: I can't see how that could be a problem.  Have you tried burning the DVD in the other "oven"?
[13:49] <john_> i burning the dvd 2 times and is the same problem
[13:49] <Drakas> Hew: I fixed it. for Opera: http://lyncis.info/post/189/en/
[13:49] <mactimes> john_: Have you tried in both your DVD drives?
[13:49] <wols> nybbj: ls -l <path to folder>
[13:49] <SNIa> wols: I found the answer to my problem
[13:50] <SNIa> wols: I was missing xauth :)
[13:50] <john_> no in slave
[13:50] <john_> drive
[13:50] <Drakas> all perfect.
[13:50] <mactimes> john_: Try in the other one.  Maybe the DVD burner you tried is not good.
[13:50] <nybbj> well location says trash:/// and it all ust emty folders
[13:50] <iqson716> I create a .deb package with "checkinstall" it possible to I use this package on another PC?
[13:51] <johntramp> Hey I am trying to work out how to use the `at` command, but it's not easy to search for.  When I run it I get a at> prompt, how do I tell it the command is complete?
[13:51] <mactimes> john_: Can be a problem in the flat cable too.  So many are the possibilities...
[13:51] <johntramp> i can ^c to get back to the bash prompt, but then atq doesn't show the job
[13:52] <mactimes> johntramp: Try crontab, it's easier to use.
[13:52] <wols> iqson716: if you are lucky
[13:52] <nybbj> is it some way possible to log on as an power user to force delete the folders in my trash?
[13:52] <wols> johntramp: it needs parameters. man at
[13:52] <johntramp> mactimes: even for a one-off job?
[13:52] <john_> and in sha1sum  check i only see error I/O not the code
[13:52] <wols> nybbj: emtpy the trash instead
[13:53] <nybbj> the folders are there still but not the files
[13:53] <iqson716> wols: luck?
[13:53] <wols> iqson716: dependencies might be different
[13:53] <mactimes> johntramp: Yup, I guess it's much easier to use...
[13:54] <johntramp> wols: i have the time parameter, can't see any others i should need
[13:54] <john_> i tried  k3b and brasero
[13:54] <wols> johntramp: if the at> prompt shows it means you lacked the parameters. e.g. it also needs the command to run at said time
[13:54] <mactimes> johntramp: crontab -e
[13:55] <nybbj> man those folders are killing me, so how to delete them from terminal? or some root way to delete the folders from trash?
[13:55] <johntramp> wols: isn't the at> prompt where i put the commands to be executed?
[13:55] <mactimes> johntramp: Take my advice.  It's much simples, doesn't need dozens of parameters...
[13:55] <wols> johntramp: yes or -f file
[13:55] <wols> try ctrl+d or such to exit at>
[13:55] <john_> someone
[13:56] <billybigrigger> while using apt-cahce search how do i find the version of the package im searching for?
[13:56] <johntramp> ah ctrl+d is what i was after
[13:56] <johntramp> thanks
[13:56] <johntramp> ill still look into crontab aswell, mactimes
[13:57] <mactimes> billybigrigger: apt-cache search <something> | grep -i -e <filter>
[13:57] <nybbj> well i cant delete the empty folders in my trash so how to get rid of them?
[13:57] <mactimes> johntramp: crontab will give you sort of a "table".  You just need to "fill in the blanks".
[13:58] <jokkaa> how do i install *.deb files?
[13:58] <mactimes> jokkaa: sudo dpkg -i <package.deb>
[13:58] <smmagic> jokkaa, doubleclick them?
[13:58] <mactimes> jokkaa: Or double click them
[13:58] <johntramp> iv used cron.daily etc. before
[13:58] <mactimes> Hahaha
[13:58] <jokkaa> mactimes, do i have to navigate to the folder containg it?
[13:58] <smmagic> mactimes, Betcha :P
[13:58] <jokkaa> i prefer learning through terminal:åp thx
[13:59] <mactimes> smmagic: Smack!
[13:59] <nybbj> is it any terminal command as root to delete all in the trash?
[13:59] <mactimes> jokkaa: Nope.  You can provide relative or absolute path to the package if you wish.
[14:00] <mactimes> nybbj: sudo rm -rf /the/directory/you/want/to/send/to/hell
[14:00] <Dazed42> sweeet
[14:00] <Dazed42> there a linux versio nof vlc
[14:00] <ben_> /server 127.0.0.1
[14:00] <ben_> urm
[14:00] <nybbj> sweet
[14:00] <ben_> wth
[14:00] <mactimes> nybbj: Be careful with that.
[14:01] <mactimes> nybbj: sudo (super user do = root power) rm -rf (-r for recursive, f = force, i.e. I know what I'm doing)
[14:01] <rbd> hey guys. I deleted a number of directories from my /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages dir by accident. is there a way to have ubuntu examine my packages and reinstall those with missing files automatically, or do I have to determine which files I should reinstall and manually do apt-get --reinstall install bla  ?
[14:02]  * mactimes believes in backups.  Isn't that a _religion_  yet?
[14:03] <nybbj> yea but the problem i dont im new to linux
[14:03] <nybbj> man i refuse to reinstall ubuntu ust pga those folders
[14:03] <mernil> hi all :-)
[14:04] <nybbj> hi mernil
[14:04] <mernil> nybbj: hey
[14:04] <nybbj> u good at linux ubuntu Mernil?
[14:04] <mernil> im good at linux
[14:05] <nybbj> sweet can i ask an thing ?
[14:05] <mernil> sure
[14:05] <nybbj> i have deleted some folders, and cant remove the folders form the trash, i get i dont have permission
[14:06] <l8router> hmm.. is there a codec that decodes wmv 9 screen format for ubuntu?
[14:06] <mernil> try rmdir -R "folder name"
[14:06] <Dazed42> zomg
[14:06] <mernil> no.. hold on
[14:06] <Dazed42> there is a linux version of americas amry
[14:06] <Dazed42> fuck yea
[14:07] <Sonderblade> is linux 2.6.25 packaged for hardy yet?
[14:07] <jpds> !ohmy | Dazed42
[14:07] <mactimes> nybbj: gksudo nautilus    then point the directory bar to Trash:
[14:07] <mactimes> nybbj: You should be able to do it.
[14:07] <bry3n> Hi everybody
[14:07] <nybbj> tnx all for the help :) i try now and see what happens :=
[14:07] <bry3n> Can you help me ?
[14:08] <bry3n> I would like to have CLOUDS for my backgound XPLANET is it realy possible ?
[14:08] <bry3n> I would like to have CLOUDS for my backgound XPLANET is it realy possible ?
[14:09] <mactimes> nybbj: try this.
[14:10] <bry3n> I would like to have CLOUDS for my backgound XPLANET is it realy possible ?
[14:10] <mactimes> nybbj: gksudo nautilus
[14:10] <nybbj> yea then root file browser did open
[14:10] <mactimes> nybbj: You have a directory bar on top, right?
[14:11] <bry3n> No ? oO
[14:11] <jazzkutya> fantastic... songbird does not start, no error message...
[14:11] <nybbj> directory bar how does that look like ?
[14:11] <nybbj> ah yea got it :)
[14:11] <mactimes> nybbj: If not, click on an icon which looks like a paper with a pencil.
[14:11] <mactimes> nybbj: Ok.
[14:12] <mactimes> nybbj: Type this --> Trash:
[14:12] <bry3n> Hum ..
[14:12] <mactimes> nybbj: Hit enter
[14:12] <chubby_sby> hi room
[14:12] <[z]neo> how can i clear the history list that i played in MPlayer?
[14:12] <nybbj> and?
[14:12] <mactimes> nybbj: Then you would see yout trashbin
[14:13] <mactimes> nybbj: You should now have permission to delete any files there
[14:13] <bry3n> Is it realy possible to have clouds in my background XPLANET ?
[14:13] <nybbj> got this now : the folder contents could not be displayed
[14:13] <[z]neo> anyone can help me how?
[14:13] <[z]neo> ﻿how can i clear the history list that i played in MPlayer?
[14:14] <mactimes> nybbj: You sure you spelled the path correctly?
[14:14] <bry3n> #XPlanet-Aide
[14:14] <mactimes> nybbj: Trash:
[14:14] <mactimes> nybbj: You must include the ":" in the end, no spaces
[14:14] <nybbj> kk
[14:14] <bry3n> HELP
[14:15] <nybbj> in my terminal it says Trash: then its ust the blinking thing no text
[14:15] <mactimes> nybbj: Nononon.
[14:15] <mactimes> nybbj: Not in the terminal
[14:15] <nybbj> ooo
[14:15] <Emprasoforvio> 15:14 Emprasoforvio • hey
[14:15] <mactimes> nybbj: In the directory bar in nautilus
[14:15] <Emprasoforvio> 15:14 Emprasoforvio • question
[14:15] <Emprasoforvio> 15:14 Emprasoforvio • Ubunty recognizes my network (wireless)
[14:15] <Emprasoforvio> 15:14 Emprasoforvio • yet doesnt connect
[14:15] <Emprasoforvio> 15:14 Emprasoforvio • am i doing something wrong with the WPA?
[14:15] <FloodBot2> Emprasoforvio: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:15] <Emprasoforvio> sorry
[14:15] <Emprasoforvio> didnt want to retype the question
[14:16] <hdevalence> How do I get FF to display stuff which requires (video/x-ms-asf)?
[14:17] <mactimes> Emprasoforvio: 1-ENTER is not yet recognized as punctuation.  2-Keeping you question clear, clean, objective and in a single line will probably get you faster responses.
[14:17] <SNIa> hdevalence: would the vlc plugin handle that?
[14:17] <hdevalence> SNIa: don't know
[14:18] <ghostlines> do you guys notice improvements in the new linux kernels?
[14:18] <SNIa> ghostlines: depends on what's changed...
[14:18] <nybbj> i got the go to i typed: Trash: and got culdnt find "/home/nybbj/Trash:" please check the spelling and try again: what does that mean?
[14:19] <mactimes> nybbj: Ok, do the following
[14:19] <hdevalence> SNIa: The vlc plugin from mozilla-plugin-vlc ?
[14:19] <mactimes> nybbj: Close all windows you have open.
[14:19] <nybbj> done
[14:19] <mactimes> nybbj: In a terminal, run this command
[14:19] <SNIa> hdevalence: yep
[14:19] <mactimes> nybbj: gksudo nautilus trash:
[14:20] <hdevalence> SNIa: I presume I'll have to restart FF?
[14:20] <SNIa> hdevalence: unfortunately, you might.
[14:20] <deus> anybody got the error so you cant mount dvd's?
[14:20] <nybbj> got it right but got this message again : the folder contents could not be displayed
[14:20] <deus> [ 9042.576166] UDF-fs: No partition found (1)
[14:20] <deus> [ 9042.577484] isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=sr0, iso_blknum=16, block=16
[14:20] <mactimes> nybbj: Hum.
[14:21] <nybbj> i know im not good to linux but did as told
[14:21] <mactimes> nybbj: Ok, in a terminal, try this
[14:21] <nybbj> kk
[14:21] <mactimes> nybbj: cd $HOME/.Trash
[14:21] <mactimes> nybbj: Can you access the .Trash directory?
[14:22] <SNIa> why not use ~ instead of $HOME ?
[14:22] <nybbj> 2 sek i have to find out how to make that dollar sign
[14:22] <lucid2012> hi all, clamtk has said it has found a virus, how do I get rid of the virus??
[14:22] <lucid2012> can someone help plz..
[14:22] <mactimes> SNIa: It is easier for people to recognize the entire thing, some people end up putting many ~ or space after ~
[14:23] <mactimes> nybbj: Shift+4, maybe
[14:23] <SNIa> pwd :)
[14:23] <otta> ui
[14:23] <otta> hi
[14:24] <nybbj> mactimes i got cd cd $HOME/.Trash in my terminal now with following message: no such file of directory
[14:24] <mactimes> nybbj: Only once cd
[14:24] <jbroome> try it with one cd
[14:24] <mactimes> nybbj: cd $HOME/.Trash
[14:24] <nybbj> kk
[14:25] <otta> anybody knows if samsung sgh i550 is able to sync with ub?
[14:25] <nybbj> man same thing... i think i ust reinstall the ubuntu then?
[14:25] <Grobvok> nybbj: What is the problem?
[14:25] <mactimes> nybbj: mkdir .Trash
[14:26] <otta> or handy sync softw?
[14:26] <nybbj> well my problem is that i did have some folders i wanted to delete, i got them to trash, files are gone, but the empty folders are there still
[14:27] <otta> sudo rm -r them
[14:28] <otta> or rmdir em
[14:28] <iarwain1> rmdir works aswell
[14:28] <Flynsarmy> Is there a program that comes with ubunut that will pop up a reminder at a specific time on my desktop?
[14:28] <nybbj> well i still got my ubuntu cd so i think i ust reinstall the whole thing :) or?
[14:28] <chubby_sby> anyone help to samba setting?
[14:28] <prower> nybbj: You don't need to reinstall ubuntu to remove empty folders
[14:28] <otta> oh yes he has to;)
[14:28] <prower> nybbj: rm -r ~/nameofdirectorytoempty
[14:29] <bry3n> Bonjour
[14:29] <bry3n> Hi can you help me ?
[14:29] <Grobvok> Maybe.
[14:29] <otta> is there a poss. to sync my sgh i550?
[14:29] <ompaul> !fr | bry3n
[14:29] <hdevalence> SNIa: mm, I love it when firefox crashes from plugins... :D
[14:29] <bry3n> I want to have Clouds with my background XPLANET is it realy possible ?
[14:30] <jazzkutya> hmm strange... i have added the repo from last.fm, now it seems there are 2 versions of lastfm in package manager
[14:30] <SNIa> hdevalence: that sounds like sarcasm! :) 64bit?
[14:30] <hdevalence> SNIa: 32
[14:30] <SNIa> hmm
[14:30] <jazzkutya> what's more strange is that the ubuntu version is newer :)
[14:30] <nybbj> lol got the same thing think i reinstall :)
[14:30] <chubby_sby> i want samba sharing in folder home but i have any problem about chmod 777 and i cant share.anyone helping me?
[14:30] <bavardage> nybbj: there is almost never a need to reinstall
[14:30] <prower> nybbj: You would be wasting your time to reinstall...hold on
[14:30] <bry3n> Yes or No ?
[14:30] <daYZman> does anyone know how to set lynx's path for storing tmp html.gz files?
[14:31] <SNIa> hdevalence: purge that plugin, try mplayer?
[14:31] <nybbj> oki i hold on :)
[14:31] <jokkaa> hmm..i just found a few games through the add/remove option. thing is, when i run them, they work, but they are flashing, any ideas why+
[14:31] <hdevalence> SNIa: it's not a big deal.. I'll probably end up downloading the coverage from torrents and not look at the olympic scores until I watch it..
[14:31] <SNIa> hdevalence: funny that, thats what i'm watching :)
[14:32] <hdevalence> SNIa: unfortunately for me, the events I'm looking for are from 3AM-6AM local time... So it's not too feasible to try to watch live
[14:33] <SNIa> hdevalence: VLC can record streams
[14:33] <Sonderblade> when i reboot after running sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic, grub says "GRUB 15 Error: file not found"
[14:33] <hdevalence> SNIa: I'll look into that...
[14:33] <Sonderblade> it cant find linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic that I know is installed, but booting the other images in the same directory works fine
[14:34] <chubby_sby> replace grub
[14:34] <Grobvok> Did you run update-grub?
[14:34] <Flynsarmy> Is there a program that comes with ubunut that will pop up a reminder at a specific time on my desktop?
[14:34] <Sonderblade> Grobvok: yup, the menu.lst file is in order
[14:34] <lakis1982> arxika vasika
[14:35] <ompaul> !gr | lakis1982
[14:35] <ufergus> ﻿Flynsarmy: you could use at with zenity
[14:36] <ufergus> looks like Kalarm might work too
[14:37] <Flynsarmy> ufergus, any with a nice easy GUI?
[14:37] <hdevalence> SNIa: I think I'll have to check whether having VLC record a stream would be higher/lower quality than the torrent option
[14:37] <SNIa> anyone know of a tile horizontally, or tile vertically windows organizing app ?
[14:37] <SNIa> i'm surprised ubuntu doesn't have that feature
[14:37] <SNIa> hdevalence: if the torrent is a capture of a HD stream... then :)
[14:38] <hdevalence> SNIa: Canada is going to take gold in 500m and 1000m 1-person kayaking :D
[14:38] <SNIa> sweet
[14:38] <ompaul> !offtopic | hdevalence
[14:39] <ufergus> ﻿Flynsarmy: http://alarm-clock.pseudoberries.com/
[14:39] <hdevalence> SNIa: I think KWin can tile horixontally/vertically, but I'm not sure
[14:39] <SNIa> anything for tile windows?
[14:39] <SNIa> hmm
[14:39] <king> where can i download deb-package for qsobcast?
[14:40] <hdevalence> SNIa: let me do some research
[14:40] <SNIa> I had seen xtile ?
[14:41] <king> I have searched it ,but there is only tar package
[14:41] <XVampireX> There's a little question, not really related to ubuntu itself (Although in ubuntu) I'm not sure if it's a bug but in archive manager there's this thing where when I click on extract button and then again on extract it doesn't let me until I reopen the folder...
[14:41] <ompaul> !compile | king
[14:43] <XVampireX> ompaul: any idea about that?
[14:43] <sswv> # Appears as TIKI.
[14:43] <xintron> How do I link a folder to another folder?
[14:43] <ompaul> XVampireX, I don't understand you in your question, can you restate?
[14:43] <ompaul> sswv, turn that script off please
[14:44] <XVampireX> ompaul: When I try to extract a file, during the choose location dialog, I need to re-enter the directory to be able to click on extract so that it would work.
[14:44] <XVampireX> with archive manager application, whatever it's called
[14:44] <ompaul> XVampireX, sounds like expected behaviour
[14:45] <sswv> # Appears as XENO.
[14:45] <XVampireX> not expected behaviour....
[14:45] <XVampireX> something rather very annoying
[14:45] <sswv> hi all
[14:46] <sswv> # Appears as XENO.
[14:47] <NeT_DeMoN> how do I enter directories via terminal?
[14:47] <sswv> hi,all
[14:47] <_punker_> hey all .... starting last night my hardy heron install cant mount my 250gb drive .... its always worked fine before
[14:47] <nickweb> hey folks, i know this question is asked a lot, but incase theres been any updates. Im looking for a dreamweaver type product, but for ubuntu. The only snag is I like working with layers and DIV's, and the editors I've seen dont have that deature, apaprt from one, and its buggy at best :(
[14:47] <_punker_> anybody got any ideas?
[14:47] <_punker_> its not even shown in /media
[14:47] <mikea87> Net_DeMoN: cd (name of the directory here)
[14:47] <nickweb> NeT_DeMoN, type cd /name/of/dir
[14:47] <NeT_DeMoN> mikea87: thank you, I feel stupid for forgetting
[14:47] <mikea87> NeT_DeMoN: no problem
[14:48] <XVampireX> it's like in dos
[14:48] <chubby_sby> lol
[14:48] <lj> # Appears as XENO.
[14:48] <XVampireX> ompaul: how can you say that this is expected behaviour?
[14:49] <nickrud> ljlj  or sswv turn off your script or whatever
[14:49] <Pirate_Hunter> omg just saw a website trying to install some window crap (smalware) on my pc it didnt let me close the browser & im in ubuntu "bring back memories"
[14:49] <Stormx2> XVampireX: I don't even understand your problem. When you extract an archive, of course you need to choose a location to extract to
[14:49] <secretisu> fresh
[14:49] <Pirate_Hunter> anywho how do i mount usb pen in icewm
[14:49] <ompaul> XVampireX, because I just used the program on "tar-1.17.tar.gz" from the FSF and I got the expected behaviour - check the radio buttons on the bottom of the application
[14:50] <nybbj> well i got help with that problem sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/* :) now i never have to reformat again :)
[14:50] <Grobvok> _punker_: Chek the power connections and the mother board ones.
[14:50] <deneme1233> hi there. somehow i managed to delete /bin/ps file. any ubuntu user can send me that file ? or email me -> emretemp@yahoo.com
[14:50] <SNIa> anyone know how to not display quit / join messages with irssi?
[14:50] <XVampireX> ompaul: No, I need to exit the directory and re enter it to be able to extract...
[14:50] <XeDoX> hello ;]
[14:51] <GIn> hi, does the kernel of hardy has ppp support?
[14:51] <XeDoX> Im running ubuntu from USB Flash Drive ;D
[14:51] <GIn> have*
[14:51] <ompaul> nickrud, that party had been asked already :-(
[14:51] <nickrud> deneme1233 sudo apt-get install --reinstall procps will get it back
[14:51] <nybbj> i run ubuntu as my main and only os, and i like it :)
[14:51] <NeT_DeMoN> I'm having problems accessing the madwifi-0.9.4 file from my "home" folder in my terminal
[14:51] <nickrud> ompaul I saw, just giving backup :)
[14:52] <deneme1233> nickrud gonna try that. thx in advance
[14:52] <ompaul> nickrud, ack
[14:52] <XeDoX> Its much faster when running from USB
[14:52] <deneme1233> nickrud worked like charm.. thx for the info
[14:52] <Pirate_Hunter> nvm just found out thunar does it automatically
[14:52] <king> ubuntu is good,but my favourite is debian
[14:52] <mikea87> NeT_DeMoN: Have you access rights for that file??
[14:52] <NeT_DeMoN> mikea87: yes I am root at the moment
[14:52] <nybbj> well im new to the world of linux so i think i hang around in ubuntu for now :)
[14:53] <nickrud>  deneme1233 fyi,  dpkg -S /bin/ps told me the package you needed to reinstall  (-S means find the package the file belongs to)
[14:53] <mikea87> where is that file located?
[14:53] <ompaul> XVampireX, use the command line if you are not comfortable with the gui :-) seriously it works the way I expect
[14:53] <NeT_DeMoN> mikea87: its in my home folder
[14:53] <Pirate_Hunter> hi nickrud havent seen you in a while "actually havent seen you at all, dont even know how you look like" but meh you know what i mean
[14:53] <_punker_> nybbj: there arent any probs inside
[14:53] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter I've been in and out, and think richard gere
[14:53] <XVampireX> ompaul: not a very nice answer though
[14:53] <nybbj> any probls inside?
[14:54] <mikea87> NeT_DeMoN: what do you need to do with that file? edit or what?
[14:54] <GIn> does the ubuntu cd come with development tools?
[14:54] <NeT_DeMoN> mikea87: install and run madwifi
[14:54] <ompaul> XVampireX, I see it the way I see it - I don't see it how you see it - so no idea
[14:54] <nickrud> GIn the basics, like gcc & libc6-dev
[14:54] <nybbj> _punker_: what you mean?
[14:54] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: ok and hmmm on the richard gere "if i only knew who he was"
[14:54] <GIn> nickrud, how about the command make?
[14:54] <XVampireX> ompaul: what's a good desktop recording application? I'll show you
[14:54] <ompaul> istanbul iirc
[14:55] <Shishire> Ok, I've got a problem playing dvds.  I have the w32codecs package, and I get the same results in both vlc and mplayer.  Here's a screenie of what happens: http://www.shishire.dyndns.org/Screenshot-1.png
 i mean that there are no problems in the box
[14:55] <nybbj> well my linux ubuntu 8-04 is running like an dream
[14:55] <nickrud> GIn yes. install build-essential , that gives you a build environment
[14:55] <mikea87> NeT_DeMoN, try chmod 755 (name of file)
[14:55] <NeT_DeMoN> ok
[14:55] <Pirate_Hunter> !video
[14:55] <ompaul> XVampireX, pm me the url or you will be drowned in the rush
[14:55] <bttb> Shishire: you need libdvdcss2
[14:55] <SNIa> think I got it, "/ignore #channel JOINS QUITS"
[14:55] <GIn> nickrud, can I install that from de cd?
[14:55] <XVampireX> ompaul: Alright :)
[14:55] <Shishire> I thought I had it...
[14:56] <NeT_DeMoN> mikea87: same thing, no such file or directory
[14:56] <nickrud> GIn yes
[14:56] <Pirate_Hunter> Shishire: you cna try installing the ubuntu-restricted packages or follow the links from ubottu
[14:56] <nybbj> i think i never go back to windows after my 3th day in Linux ubuntu i cant go back, this is ust way to much bether to use :)
[14:57] <nybbj> well got to go, reading more about the gnu/linux here
[14:57] <Shishire> I really need to keep track of when I last installed this thing...
[14:57] <Pirate_Hunter> nybbj: never say never you will always go back to windows at one point
[14:57] <Shishire> thanks everyone
[14:57] <cerbianguard> np
[14:58] <prabhakaran> hi
[14:58] <king> Is there a programe like dreamweaver to write html and css code. I feel bluefish is too simple that i can't get the difference between bluefish and gedit.so who can give me an advice of the editor for html
[14:58] <nybbj> no more Windows on my pc Pirate_Hunter. in xp no new drivers, in vista i get something like an bod but only red schreen of death or something like that
[14:59] <XVampireX> ompaul: Where should I host an ogg format?
[14:59] <Vyacheslav> Can someone help me on choosing a Linux distro?
[14:59] <jazzkutya> where does lastfm store it's settings?
[14:59] <ompaul> XVampireX, got a web server or some temp file host
[14:59] <jbroome> Vyacheslav: i'm going to suggest ubuntu
[15:00] <prabhakaran> Ubuntu is the best vyacheslav
[15:00] <Pirate_Hunter> nybbj: ahh the good all times never tried vista but xp was fun just a sec ago a website tried to force me to install some windows virus crap lol
[15:00] <bavardage> Vyacheslav: depends
[15:00] <bavardage> how much linux experience you got?
[15:00] <Dante123> anyone know of auto repair shop management software that runs under linux?  Can't seem to find anything googling?
[15:00] <Vyacheslav> I'd use ubuntu, but,....
[15:00] <ompaul> Vyacheslav, in #ubuntu you want us to say ..... ubuntu?
[15:00] <bavardage> how much do you like being 'mummied'
[15:00] <Vyacheslav> I've used it before
[15:00] <Pirate_Hunter> Vyacheslav: since your here ubuntu try that
[15:00] <bavardage> Vyacheslav: maybe try something like suse? fedora?
[15:00] <XVampireX> ompaul: can I DCC maybe?
[15:00] <ompaul> game over
[15:00] <Vyacheslav> Here's my specs though: 400MHz PII, 256mb RAM and 4GB hard drive.
[15:00] <Vyacheslav> :/
[15:00] <ompaul> XVampireX, yeap
[15:00] <Vyacheslav> Ancient, I know.
[15:00] <nickrud> Vyacheslav xubuntu
[15:00] <bavardage> Vyacheslav: ouch?
[15:00] <bavardage> :P
[15:00] <jbroome> Vyacheslav: run slackware, you'll come running back
[15:00] <Pirate_Hunter> ompaul: thats the same i thought... ubuntu is the answer
[15:00] <bavardage> yeah xubuntu, dsl? puppylinux?
[15:01] <jbroome> grml
[15:01] <Vyacheslav> Does xubuntu support dual processors?
[15:01] <bavardage> depends on how much experience you got
[15:01] <Dante123> ﻿Vyacheslav  Puppy Linux for that pc
[15:01] <bavardage> you could install archlinux if you're reasonably confident
[15:01] <shah> hi all how to install flash player in ubuntu.. i hav used apt-get install flash-player. as a root, but its not working/ plz reply
[15:01] <nickrud> Vyacheslav yes, it's in the kernel (which is common to all ubuntu versions)
[15:01] <Dante123> ﻿Vyacheslav or try Nimblex
[15:01] <XVampireX> ompaul: Now check it out, just how annoying it is...
[15:02] <Pirate_Hunter> Vyacheslav: DSL/DLS -n & puppy, tried all three luv them still got puppy installed on a toshiba satellite which is used by the kids they havent complained yet "as if they had any choice"
[15:02] <Dante123> ﻿anyone know of auto repair shop management software that runs under linux?  Can't seem to find anything googling?
[15:02] <Vyacheslav> Okay. Now another thing.
[15:02] <nickrud> shah sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree   ?
[15:02] <SNIa> Dante123: what do you mean by repair shop?
[15:02] <Vyacheslav> If I installed PuppyLinux, would I be able to triple boot with MS-DOS and 2000?
[15:02] <jbroome> Vyacheslav: not #ubuntu's problem
[15:02] <Dante123> ﻿Vyacheslav Puppy Linux Fire Hydrant distro has a lot built into it already.....might want that
[15:02] <nickrud> shah brain fart. sudo apt-get install libflashplugin-non-free
[15:02] <ompaul> XVampireX, do you have writing permissions for that directory?
[15:03] <Pirate_Hunter> bavardage: i believe xubuntu with those specs is awful unless he/she is doing a network isntall even than if they are new to ubuntu, xubuntu etc that will certainly be a bad idea
[15:03]  * nickrud needs to learn to type again
[15:03] <nickrud> shah brain fart. sudo apt-get install libflashplugin-nonfree
[15:03] <legend2440> shah: flashplugin-nonfree
[15:03] <Dante123> Automotive repair shop ﻿SNIa
[15:03] <XVampireX> ompaul: It's my home directory
[15:03] <bavardage> hmm fair enough
[15:03] <bavardage> fluxbuntu ?
[15:03] <Dante123> Friend has his own..... but some shop management software can get expensive ﻿SNIa
[15:04] <avuton> How can I install a vanilla kernel (without ubuntu patches)?
[15:04] <Annoid> Greetings.
[15:04] <Vyacheslav> Thanks guys.
[15:04] <Vyacheslav> Downloading Puppy Linux Fire Hydrant.
[15:04] <XVampireX> avuton: Why would you want to do that?
[15:04] <nickrud> avuton download it from kernel.org and compile your own
[15:04] <Pirate_Hunter> Vyacheslav: hmmmm ok if thats you choice
[15:04] <SNIa> Dante123: anything you had in mind? is this like an inventory thing, or info on vehicles, shop times / job, or some sort of sale / invoicing thing?
[15:04] <avuton> XVampireX: ubuntu broke my suspend
[15:05] <ompaul> XVampireX, ...... read it again ..... what is highlighted on the left nothing therefore where are you
[15:05] <avuton> nickrud: o'rly? No need for any special stuff?
[15:05] <Annoid> Although I'm familiar w/linux (Gentoo), I'm a newb at Ubuntu. I need to install the broadcom WLAN drivrs, but the machine has no working inet. I have d/l'ed and moved the b43-fwcutter-011.tar.bz2
[15:05] <nickrud> avuton compiling it correctly is the 'special stuff' ;)
[15:05] <ompaul> !broadcom | Annoid
[15:05] <Dante123> ﻿ SNIa more for invoicing and keeping track of repair work of particular customers/vehicles
[15:05] <Pirate_Hunter> Vyacheslav: fire hydrant looks awful why dont you just install normal puppy and get the packages you need?
[15:06] <ab2> hello - I can't seem to connect to my wireless ap with any security enabled
[15:06] <XVampireX> ompaul: I'm in my home directory inside directories I created.....
[15:06] <Annoid> Although I'm familiar w/linux (Gentoo), I'm a newb at Ubuntu. I need to install the broadcom WLAN drivrs, but the machine has no working inet. I have d/l'ed and moved the b43-fwcutter-011.tar.bz2 & the driver packages, but make bombs when I try to make fwcutter
[15:06] <ab2> but if I disable wpa wep etc the interface connects
[15:06] <Dante123> I'm thinking there may be some php type database or something that isn't showing up in my googling.....everything seems to be windows based
[15:06] <ab2> I
[15:07] <ab2> I'm using ndiswrapper on my laptop
[15:07] <Annoid> Ubottu's a bot, I assume?
[15:07] <ab2> can someone point me in the right direction?
[15:07] <SNIa> Dante123: http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=invoicing
[15:07] <Pirate_Hunter> does icewm allow composite such as xcompmgr?
[15:07] <nickrud> Annoid yes
[15:07] <Dante123> ﻿SNIa can you think of another chat room where someone might have an idea
[15:07] <king> opera can't display flash correctly,it has sound and no picture.what's the problem
[15:07] <Dante123> ﻿SNIa will look at that....hang on
[15:07] <nickrud> Annoid what bcm card/chip?
[15:07] <SNIa> Dante123: the commercial one for vehicle repair, that my Father uses at his shop is Alldata
[15:08] <SNIa> but that's just for shop times, repair procedures, etc.
[15:08] <Dante123> ﻿﻿SNIa and what kind of cost is that?
[15:08] <Annoid> BCM4306 ver. 2
[15:09] <Annoid> I can get files to the machine on flash drives, but It has no working inet conn.
[15:09] <nickrud> Annoid can't you wire up temporarily? Like at a friends, etc
[15:09] <Annoid> Laptop, enet card is toast
[15:09] <XVampireX> ompaul: any idea what I should do?
[15:09] <Dante123> What I am looking for is something like this but for linux:       http://www.smartautoshop.com/
[15:09] <SNIa> Dante123: http://www.alldata.com depends on what package you want. it can be pricey
[15:10] <ompaul> XVampireX, I am wondering
[15:10] <Annoid> I have PC's here w/enet. including Gentoo, but this machine has no enet at this time so I can't use the automated install tools
[15:10] <tux> salve
[15:10] <ompaul> XVampireX, ls -l that one file and does it look right
[15:10] <kai`> hi. is it possible to install oracle 10g on an amd64 machine? i always get the following error will apt-get update: http://rafb.net/p/kBliiS86.html
[15:10] <tux> uso firefox e se vado su youtube non riesco a vedere i video... prima con ubuntu 7.10 mi chiedeva di isntallare il plugin ora no
[15:11] <legend2440> Dante123: http://freshmeat.net/projects/ah3/
[15:11] <XVampireX> ompaul: it's all of the files
[15:11] <SNIa> legend2440: nice
[15:12] <nickrud> Annoid if you like, http://aphroneo.net/bcm43.tar.gz , unpack that in /lib/firmware , then system->admin->hardware drivers. That tarball is what fwcutter places on your system
[15:12] <tux> (join #ubuntu-it
[15:12] <Grobvok> !it | tux
[15:12] <Dante123> thanks legend2440
[15:12] <legend2440> Dante123: your welcome
[15:13] <ompaul> XVampireX, ls -l that one file and does it look right .... does it look right permission wise
[15:13] <XVampireX> -rw-r--r-- 1 serge serge 11447 2008-08-08 20:58 buddylist2-6.x-1.x-dev.tar.gz
[15:13] <cemunal> hi
[15:13] <Annoid> nickrud : The requested URL /bcm43.tar.gz was not found on this server
[15:13] <kai`> do you know the meaning of this error message?
[15:13] <kai`> http://rafb.net/p/kBliiS86.html
[15:14] <nickrud> Annoid ack, I always do that.  b43.tar.gz, sorry
[15:14] <XVampireX> ompaul: seems right...
[15:14] <Annoid> Can I get precompiled packages from http://ubuntu.cafuego.net  and put them on the machine, and use the ubuntu installer tools?
[15:15] <hertz> any1 using intrepid as primary system?
[15:15] <Pantera> hi guys
[15:15] <td123> hertz: they're probably too busy trying to fix their system :P
[15:15] <bazhang> hertz, #ubuntu+1 for that
[15:16] <nickrud> kai` sudo rm -r * /var/lib/apt/lists  <-- where ubuntu keeps those package lists, you appear to have a bad download. Removing and redownloading normally clears that up
[15:16] <sarikan> hi there
[15:16] <sarikan> has anyone been able to install eric4 on 8.04?
[15:16] <nickrud> Annoid not sure what's on that site, but the source is reliable
[15:16] <Dante123> ﻿legend2440 I have to have postgresql installed prior to using this right?
[15:16] <hertz> yea i really like the new nautilus and im thinking to upgrade on 8.10 alpha 3
[15:17] <Pantera> HI ANYBODY
[15:17] <Pirate_Hunter> sarikan: whats eric4 out of curiosity
[15:17] <sarikan> it is a python ide :)
[15:17] <sarikan> actually the problem is about installing qt 4.4
[15:17] <legend2440> Dante123: yes it looks that way   Ah3 uses the Qt toolkit from Trolltech. It also uses the Postgresql database, though it may be possible, with a little effort, to have it work with MySql or Sqlite.
[15:17] <Dante123> anyone other than me having major problems with Audacity (and wondering when this will be fixed or an updated package available to get me past 1.3.4)
[15:17] <sarikan> I guess the latest is qt 4.4.2
[15:17] <td123> hertz: wait until alpha 4, 5 more days
[15:17] <Pirate_Hunter> hertz: new nautilus where give me the link
[15:18] <sarikan> qt and python bindings are necessary to have a nice python dev environment
[15:18] <Dante123> thanks legend2440.  If I wanted to test this software out....would I just use synaptic to get postgres
[15:18] <schone> hey al
[15:18] <hertz> its supports tabs and compact view and the new human theme just rocks
[15:18] <schone> does ubuntu come pre packaged with JDK and JRE?
[15:18] <Aparicio> k paso mataos
[15:18] <td123> schone: now
[15:18] <td123> schone: no
[15:18] <legend2440> Dante123: yes
[15:19] <schone> ok thanks
[15:19] <td123> schone: you have to install it from synaptic
[15:19] <Dante123> ok thanks legend2440
[15:19] <nutzer> nutzer
[15:19] <schone> cool thanks
[15:19] <nickrud> schone sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk  for the dev version, -jre for just the runtime
[15:19] <schone> nickrud, awesome thanks mate
[15:20] <hertz> Pirate_Hunter: http://shrani.si/?t/Cj/QAjaTug/screenshot.png
[15:20] <nickrud> schone and  -plugin for the browser plugin
[15:20] <Pirate_Hunter> hertz: whats so new about it?
[15:20] <ompaul> XVampireX, try gunzip buddy* ; tar xvf buddy* and see how you got
[15:21] <HoNgOuRu> why is that the devices names /dev/sdA-B-C changes each time I boot the computer???
[15:22] <HoNgOuRu> please help, I cannot build a fstab file right...
[15:22] <XVampireX> ompaul: works fine
[15:22] <hertz> Pirate_Hunter: tabs in nautilus, compact file view and some applications are transparent by default
[15:22] <Annoid> nickrud : Hardware drivers doesn't see anything listed to add. That tarball dumped two directories in that /lib/firmware..
[15:22] <jazzkutya> HoNgOuRu: use uuids in the fstab instead of device names. use blkid to get the UUIDs
[15:23] <nickrud> Annoid yes, the b43legacy is what your chip uses
[15:23] <nickrud> Annoid try sudo modprobe b43 with that dir in place
[15:23] <Annoid> nickrud I know, but hardware drivers browser tool doesn't see it
[15:23] <Mesiox> any 1 know a really good theme for ubuntu?
[15:23] <Pirate_Hunter> hertz: ok and thats on 8.10 right
[15:23] <ompaul> XVampireX, then record your session really slowly say do it with three files remove /rename the directories that are open and start again
[15:24] <HoNgOuRu> great !
[15:24] <HoNgOuRu> thanks a lot
[15:24] <siloko> anyone use netbeans
[15:24]  * nickrud backspaces over what jazzkutya just typed, nearly word for word ;)
[15:24] <XVampireX> ompaul: what do you mean?
[15:24] <ompaul> XVampireX, rename both of the now open ones
[15:25] <ompaul> and then try them again with your point and click tool
[15:25] <XVampireX> alright
[15:25] <kai`> is there anyone here who installed oracle 10g via apt?
[15:26] <jazzkutya> nickrud: what does backspacing mean? :)
[15:26] <hertz> Pirate_Hunter: yes thats gnome 2.24. It will be in 8.10 but I just cant wait those tabs..I want them now :/
[15:26]  * nickrud has _got_ to learn to type
[15:26] <Pirate_Hunter> jazzkutya: bckspc is the key near the enter on most keyboards press that
[15:27] <Pirate_Hunter> nickrud: i wonder if you age quicker hanging about in this channel
[15:27] <jazzkutya> Pirate_Hunter: i know but his statement did not sound like a disagreement implemented by backspace keys :)
[15:27] <ompaul> !intrepid | hertz but installing it on a working version is nuts, the desktop dependencies are really deep seated in ubuntu
[15:27] <Panda> 有没有朋友懂中文的？
[15:27] <ab2> hi can anyone help with my wifi connection pls? I can connect with no security but not with wpa or wep
[15:27] <ompaul> !intrepid | hertz but installing it on a working version is nuts the desktop dependencies are really deep seated in ubuntu
[15:27] <nickrud> Pirate_Hunter nah, it keeps me young
[15:27] <ab2> using ndiswrapper
[15:27] <nickrud> !cn | Panda
[15:27] <Pirate_Hunter> jazzkutya: you asked what backspace meant i told you, actually im not even following what his trying to get you to do
[15:27] <ompaul> !intrepid | hertz (but installing it on a working version is nuts the desktop dependencies are really deep seated in ubuntu)
[15:27] <Dollar> anybody know gtk?
[15:28] <ompaul> !ibex
[15:28] <ompaul> hertz, ^^ you got the idea
[15:28] <XVampireX> ompaul: Okey, I'll send you the new file
[15:28] <jazzkutya> Pirate_Hunter: btw I've asked what backspacing means, not simply backspace
[15:29] <hertz> ompaul: shure, maybe I will try dualboot first and see how things works for a few days
[15:29] <ab2> anyone?
[15:29] <nickrud> jazzkutya I meant I had the same answer typed, almost word for word when I realized you'd already posted
[15:29] <Annoid> nickrud : thankee, much. working now.. I can add b43 to /etc/modules to autoload at boot time, I assume ?
[15:29] <jazzkutya> nickrud: ah ok now I understand 100% :)
[15:29] <nickrud> Annoid don't even need to do that. the kernel will recognize your chip and load it automatically now
[15:30] <Pirate_Hunter> does icewm allow composite such as xcompmgr?
[15:30] <grumpy> Anybody else have problems with vmware server not recognizing control keys, capital letters, and such?
[15:31] <Annoid> heh. Ok, thanks. I'm used to a more command-line driven version of Linux.. Gentoo.     Oh, one more thing.. is there an editor tool for what runs at various runlevels?  I want to kill avahi and knocking it out of services in the GUI tool didn't stop it from starting
[15:32] <XVampireX> annoid, there is.... I forgot the name of the app though
[15:32] <nickrud> Annoid sysv-rc-conf
[15:33] <taliz> I upgraded my gutsy server to hardy, and now xen hosts refuse to start properly. I cant connect to them via xm console, that just "freezes", and one is in state "r" and the other "b" in xm list
[15:33] <ompaul> XVampireX, ls -al advanced_forum
[15:33] <dimitar> hey, i need help, I have Fujitsu Siemens Notebook, ATI Radeon 2400 HD graphic card, and Ubuntu 8.04. My problem is that when i type on the keyboard, some letters don't appear at first type. For example, sometime ENTER works on 1st "type" sometime don't. I don't know if you understend me:) Please help
[15:33] <taliz> I also tried rebooting with the old kernel but that didnt work
[15:33] <XVampireX> ompaul: everything is fine
[15:33] <ompaul> !upstart | Annoid (rcconf is also available)
[15:34] <ompaul> !upstart | Annoid
[15:34] <ghostlines> does anyone know any network traffic monitoring tools, i was trying out "ntop" but i didn't get it to run
[15:34] <jazzkutya> ghostlines: you can try iftop
[15:34] <jazzkutya> ghostlines: just apt-get it
[15:34] <verynew> how to change login screen resolution?
[15:35] <neurobuntu> how can I intiate a firefox session of SSH with x forwarding... I keep trying but whenever I run firefox in SSH it opens a local version
[15:35] <neurobuntu> over not of
[15:35] <jazzkutya> ghostlines: btw you can also get ntop with apt-get
[15:35] <mernil> hi all :-) .. any easy questions can be directed to me right away!
[15:35] <Grobvok> How are you?
[15:35] <ompaul> neurobuntu, ssh -X user@box /path/to/and/name/of/executable
[15:36] <mernil> Grobvok: ur talking to me?
[15:36] <ompaul> !hi | Grobvok
[15:36] <verynew> mernil: here is an easy one: how to change login screen resolution?
[15:36] <mernil> Well, im just fine, have my ginger here and som beers. And a new amplifier i found in the garbage.
[15:37] <mernil> verynew: depends on what login manager you have
[15:37] <neurobuntu> ompaul,  didn't work that still opened a local session
[15:37] <Pirate_Hunter> verynew: command gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[15:37] <dimitar> Anybody ?
[15:37] <verynew> pirate_hunter: there is no such option. only desktop resolution
[15:37] <Pirate_Hunter> verynew: that was in command line
[15:38] <neurobuntu> ompaul, could it be some firefox specific issue where it checks for a local copy of the binary?
[15:38] <ompaul> neurobuntu, funny, cos that is what I use in work every day, you can log into the other machine in a termina
[15:38] <ircbin> Hello, I have some columns with information in OpenOffice Calc and I want to sort it. The problem is that I have one column with an image and when I sort the information, the images are not moved... Can I move the images with the rest of the information of the column?
[15:38] <neurobuntu> ompaul, right i know its weird....I know its a local copy because I can't network restricted sites and it opens with my  local bookmarks
[15:38] <neurobuntu> i cant' reach
[15:39] <nybbj> so what can i do in Linux? all that windows can ++?
[15:39] <ompaul> neurobuntu, so the problem is much deeper than you thought
[15:39] <neurobuntu> nybbj you can do WHATEVER you want! no body can tell you what you can't do
[15:39] <mernil> nybbj: please re-phrase that question!
[15:39] <nybbj> so what can i do in Linux? all that windows can ++?
[15:40] <mernil> neurobuntu: okay, i'll tag along on that reply :-P
[15:40] <nybbj> well i look forward to that day i start to get the hang of this then :)
[15:40] <ompaul> nybbj, that is your call
[15:40] <eitreach> How do I stop media player connectivity's wizard from starting, every time I open a new window in Firefox?
[15:41] <mernil> nybbj: remember ur among the elite when you are using Gnu/Linux!
[15:41] <mernil> among me :-)
[15:41] <nickrud> nybbj about the only thing windows can do that ubuntu can't is play windows games well ;)
[15:41] <nybbj> ooo i feel welcome :=)
[15:41] <Pirate_Hunter> nybbj: in linux you cna do what windows does and much better were just a tad behind on gaming
[15:41] <ompaul> XVampireX, sorry, perhaps my thinking is not obvious, who owns the directory you opened the advanced_forum and its contents
[15:41] <nybbj> well for gaming i got an psp, ds and soon an ps3 so my pc arnt for gaming anyways
[15:41] <sol__> That's only because most game companies don't realize the potential of games on Linux
[15:42] <eitreach> Pirate_Hunter: if that was actually the truth, why would anyone still be running Windows?
[15:42] <ghostlines> yep that's the only think we kinda lack, but linux still rules :p
[15:42] <nybbj> btw if i want to game in Linux i got super tux :) and tux racer :)
[15:42] <kenkku> tremulous
[15:42] <kenkku> freeciv
[15:42] <ghostlines> true combat elite !
[15:42] <kenkku> enemy territory, wesnoth, torcs (which isn't too good, though)
[15:42] <mernil> all  day i have been using ginger as a narcotsium .. okay, it's not recommended, but you do get a little high on it. Not much, but you see some things that doesnt exist irl :-)
[15:43] <kenkku> one of the numerous things windows can't do is play linux games well
[15:43] <nickrud> mernil that's offtopic here, thank you very much ;)
[15:43] <ompaul> !offtopic | mernil
[15:43] <kenkku> except that it can, because linux games are usually cross-platform :P
[15:43] <sol__> Well I for one am trying like hell for Mythic to release a linux client for Warhammer Online!
[15:43] <verynew> ok, <gksudo displayconfig-gtk> contain screen resolution, but no -login screen- resolution, which i still got 12xx instead of 1024
[15:43] <mernil> okay, i'll shut up about my findings then ;-)
[15:43] <Pirate_Hunter> eitreach: cause m$ brainwashed ppl into believing they are the best and lets not forget organisations dont want to wait experienced personnel to learn how to develop rapidily in linux but want them to be able to provide quick and efficient tools to for their needs "does thta even make sense" oh well watching film
[15:43] <dimitar> no one can help me ?
[15:43] <XVampireX> ompaul: serge (me)
[15:44] <eitreach> Pirate_Hunter: so it's because people are brainwashed, that certain applications doesn't run on Linux? Not because they haven't actually been made for Linux?
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[15:44] <nybbj> pirate_hunter thats why i dont want to use MS i do enjoy linux ust after my 3th day
[15:45] <kenkku> microsoft just happens to have most of the market share on the desktop, which means it's the number one choice for game developers
[15:45] <Pirate_Hunter> eitreach: yes conspiracy theory is much better than common sense just search online on some of the linux fables
[15:45] <sombriks> app does nor runs on linux but have tons of equivalents
[15:45] <verynew> mernil: will you help me with -login screen- resolution? i got gnome login environment
[15:46] <ompaul> XVampireX, there has to be something to do with permissions or else your expectations - frankly gunzip * might be useful and tar xvf * also
[15:46] <mernil> verynew: that's the problem my friend. I use KDE :-/
[15:46] <m_newton> @list
[15:46] <dimitar> ok, i'll post my problem on more time : When i type on the keyboard some keys (random) don't work on first "click". I must type them more than once. FOr example i'll try to type "I need help urgent" : I ned help ugen
[15:46] <mernil> and dont disturb me know, im peeling ginger..
[15:46] <XVampireX> nothing to do with permissions.... just something really silly is going on
[15:46] <a100973> How can i find out which gstreamer plugins my laptop needs?
[15:47] <eitreach> sombriks: applications are not equivalents just because some say they are. GIMP is not an alternative to Photoshop for many, because it lacks a certain set of advanced features. Same with many other applications that tries to be equivalents.
[15:47] <eitreach> it's not true just because we want it to be, and that kind of thinking will not get anything done.
[15:47] <Annoid> nickrud Thanks again for your help. Got wireless on it working, at least.
[15:47] <felix-da-catz_zz> I am having the weirdest issue.  I am using a wifi connection which works for everything but ssh connections to another computer.  it give me the password prompt, but just sits there after I successfully enter my password.
[15:47] <nickrud> Annoid yw.
[15:47] <m_newton> !offtopic
[15:47] <mernil> Sad thing about computing, it's so difficult to explain the whole story for an outsider, when getting help.
[15:47] <nybbj> i got an good q here: i use an laptop, all works fine, but when i plug an other display on i cant get it to work
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> eitreach You are offtopic.. but google up gimpshop .. you might find it surprising.
[15:48] <taime1> how do i restart the network after i change the ip from dhcp to static?
[15:48] <eitreach> Jack_Sparrow: just waiting for a question to be answered, really. Might as well pass the time with something useful.
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> eitreach Please dont...
[15:49] <felix-da-catz_zz> taimel:  You shouldn't have to restart it.  As long as you set the settings properly for your static IP address.
[15:49] <verynew> ok, does anyone here have gnome login environment and succesfully changed login screen resolution?
[15:49] <a100973> How can i find out which gstreamer plugins my laptop needs?
[15:49] <ompaul> eitreach, not here we have 1200 plus in the channel thanks ;-)
[15:49] <taime1> felix-da-catz_zz: i thought that too.. but i cannot communicate with any other computers after i make the change.. and they canno tsee me either, until i restart
[15:50] <ivanhoe> hello evryone anyone know how can i do a deadping in a wifi
[15:51] <felix-da-catz_zz> taimel:  That's weird.  I don't have that problem when I change.  Look in /etc/init.d for something network related.
[15:51] <verynew> so, maybe somebody know how to change default screen resolution in gnome? (default, not actual)
[15:53] <taime1> verynew: you must edit xorg.conf and make sure that the desired resolution is listed first in the list of resoluytions
[15:53] <verynew> taime: i already looked in the xorg.conf but i have almost nothing there
[15:53] <verynew> tespecially no resolutions
[15:54] <eitreach> How do I stop mediaplayerconnectivity's wizard from starting every time I open a new window in Firefox?
[15:54] <taime1> that sounds weird
[15:55] <phr0z1> taime1: No thats how the new xorg is with hardy
[15:55] <Grobvok> eitreach: Go to Tools -> Add-ons
[15:55] <Grobvok> eitreach: There should be some settings there.
[15:55] <taime1> phr0z1: oh yeah, thats why i stopped using ubuntu
[15:55] <nickrud> verynew that's where you would put a preferred resolution, if you're not happy with the default gdm res
[15:55] <eitreach> Grobvok: aye. been there. saved my settings, but the wizard still started the next time I started Firefox.
[15:56] <phr0z1> heh
[15:56] <yuro> i coldn't get ipod works with ubuntu. any suggestions ?
[15:56] <taime1> phr0z1: still a good distro, just not for me.
[15:56] <yuro> please
[15:56] <eitreach> Grobvok: it's like I can't actually save the files. that they are just dumped whenever I quit firefox.
[15:56] <verynew> nickrud: like SubSection "Display" / Modes "xxx" / EndSubSection ?
[15:57] <nickrud> verynew yes
[15:57] <verynew> tried :(
[15:57] <GIn> hi, is the package squid  on the hardy cd?
[15:57] <EarthLion> hey i just did a apt-get install unison and after running it from a client machine i get there error  expected "Unison 2.27\n" but received "Unison 2.13". How can i force aptitude to upgrade to version 2.27?
[15:57] <Pirate_Hunter> GIn: why dont you do an apt-cache search on it
[15:57] <Grobvok> yuro: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9266 Perhaps this will help.
[15:58] <GIn> Pirate_Hunter, I'm on windows. if it doesn't, I want to dl it before I restart
[15:58] <yuro> Grobvok, thanks. i'll see if it works
[15:58] <nickrud> verynew like http://www.aleph0.com/computing/openbsd/inspiron-1000/xorg.conf-OpenBSD-3.9 at the very end, ignore the rest of the file
[15:58] <taime1> how do i make autorun work in wine? i want to pop in a cd, and have autorun install a windoiws program. is this possible?
[15:58] <Pirate_Hunter> GIn: than youre running ubutnu through a virtual machine like i said do that and find out
[15:59] <verynew> nickrud: all the lines or only screen section?
[15:59] <Grobvok> eitreach: Sorry, I can't help you with that because I never had it installed.
[15:59] <tgpraveen> taime1:  wanna know that ans too
[15:59] <nickrud> verynew the screen section. The key is after you create the display subsection, you need to add the defaultdepth so it knows what to use
[15:59] <tgpraveen> anyone can help autorun cd in wine
[15:59] <tgpraveen> ?
[16:00] <Grobvok> eitreach: Check out the official site http://membres.lycos.fr/sethnakht/
[16:00] <PryMaL> can someone point me in the right direction for a usb bootable version of ubuntu server please?
[16:01] <DEdwards> Yay
[16:01] <alaniemieckota> hi
[16:01] <tgpraveen> pls help
[16:01] <alaniemieckota> i need help to
[16:01] <DEdwards> Ipod nanao 3rd gen will now work with linux
[16:02] <nickrud> verynew but I have to admit, my learning was done in the XFree86 days, and it's time to brush up. I've found a nice, expensive book on X that's recent, and has decent reviews
[16:02] <DEdwards> on what?
[16:02] <alaniemieckota> i just installed ubuntu and i tried to update sth and updates stucks in the middle during download
[16:02] <DEdwards> hmm
[16:02] <verynew> nickrud: ok ill try your solution and see if works
[16:02] <alaniemieckota> even firefox couldn't install flash player it stucked at 50%
[16:02] <alaniemieckota> but i can use IRC
[16:02] <DEdwards> thats really strange
[16:03] <nickrud> alaniemieckota put the complete output of  sudo apt-get update   on paste.ubuntu.com, as well as   sudo apt-get get install   libflashplugin-nonfree
[16:03] <alaniemieckota> ok thank you
[16:03] <DEdwards> dont forget to give us a link
[16:04] <DEdwards> :P
[16:04] <Dietrich> Is there something I need to do to make the multi-monitor support work a lot better?
[16:04] <Dietrich> Because my computer decides a different monitor is monitor one every time i boot it up
[16:05] <DEdwards> I dont know why decent multi-monitor support has not been developed
[16:05] <DEdwards> in windows, you just plug it in
[16:05] <Saladin> How can I gain remote access to my Ubuntu 6.06 server through my local 8.04 laptop? I enabled remote desktop viewing on the server, but when I try the vncviewer command on terminal, it doesn't do anything. Help please guys!
[16:05] <Dietrich> I'm sure it's got something to do with all the good drivers being closed source but man it's annoying.
[16:05] <sunru> hello
[16:06] <kenshin_> hiya
[16:06] <jewel> hi
[16:06] <DEdwards> yeah, good open source drivers are on needed badly
[16:06] <gabriele> !list
[16:07] <sunru> i'm looking to set up LTSP what kind of server should I get? (power per user)
[16:07] <jewel> there is any one
[16:07] <VelcroMan> Anyone in here ever instaled CounterStrike 1.6 with Steam on Ubuntu?
[16:08] <sunru> I mean I pulling out computers from the street, people dumping perfectly fine machines.
[16:08] <sunru> its a crime.
[16:08] <DEdwards> sunru, ihate that
[16:08] <jewel> how can go in side
[16:09] <DEdwards> I hate 2 pentium II's
[16:09] <zorki> May somebody help me with my Wlan? Here are some information: I've installed ubuntu 8 today and recogniced, that the ipw2100 driver and ieee80211 are already installed and auomaticly loaded. The firmware files are in /lib/firmware/_used_kernel_/, but i am not sure wether they are loaded. I am using the networkmanager and in /etc/network/interace are neither eth0 nor wlan0 defined. ifconfig lists eth0, wlan0 is not shown.
[16:09] <Pirate_Hunter> sunru: i knwo what you mean
[16:09] <Saladin> How can I gain remote access to my Ubuntu 6.06 server through my local 8.04 laptop? I enabled remote desktop viewing on the server, but when I try the vncviewer command on terminal, it doesn't do anything. Help please guys!
[16:09] <ompaul> sunru, how many users and how much work do you expect the users to do?
[16:09] <Pirate_Hunter> sunru: i was supposed to get around 10 unneded machines from my company as they through it out but i was so late so late
[16:09] <jewel> yea
[16:10] <jewel> saladin slm
[16:10] <Saladin> jewel: slm? What?
[16:10] <jewel> hello
[16:10] <jewel> men
[16:10] <ompaul> !offtopic | jewel
[16:11] <jewel> your welcome
[16:12] <simotempler> hi there - when u upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 will it keep all my cutomized settings like icons themes, avant bar, background, fonts etc. cause ubuntu is rotten as it looks in standard format
[16:13] <pepe__> how can i open this video when I m getting this message Video is currently supported on the following browsers:
[16:13] <pepe__>     * Internet Explorer 6, 7 for Windows
[16:13] <pepe__>       (Vista, XP SP2 or greater and 2003)
[16:13] <pepe__>     * Firefox 1.5, 2, 3 for Windows
[16:13] <pepe__>       (Vista, XP SP2 or greater and 2003)
[16:13] <pepe__>     * Firefox 1.5, 2, 3 for Mac
[16:13] <FloodBot2> pepe__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:13] <pepe__>       (OS 10.4.8 or greater, Intel only)
[16:13] <Dazed> use one of those browsers
[16:13] <timma> hello, I have a question about burning an audio cd in brasero
[16:14] <speedhunt3r> hey how do i configure nautilus to open a network location? I go to Places>connect to server.. it says no service is configured to open this request or something like that
[16:14] <timma> If I have mono audio, will brasero mirror it to both left and right?
[16:14] <simotempler> anyone know if it reset all the customised settings when u upgrade
[16:14] <RobiX> hi 2 all
[16:14] <RobiX> i use kubuntu and windows (dual boot) - what is better: using a external drive with NTFS or with ext3 ?
[16:15] <nickrud> RobiX either, ext2 is readable with the  fs-driver.org windows driver
[16:15] <Grobvok> RobiX: Windows can't read ext3, but Ubuntu can read NFTS.
[16:15] <simotempler> robix: i have a 300GB drive ntfs for bothh to use
[16:15] <simotempler> for files etc
[16:15] <speedhunt3r> RobiX, you can try ext2fs for windows to read ur ext3 drivers
[16:16] <speedhunt3r> *drives
[16:16] <linxeh> RobiX: where do you primarily spend most of your time using data? Windows?
[16:16] <RobiX> lot of answers ;)
[16:16] <simotempler> ntfs is best cus ubuntu will use it no probs
[16:16] <nickrud> RobiX so it comes down to use case :)
[16:16] <linxeh> Grobvok: windows can read ext2/3 and others with suitable drivers
[16:16] <RobiX> linxeh: at the moment windows 80% windows
[16:16] <simotempler> but ext3 and windows isnt greatly supported
[16:16] <RobiX> linxeh: but maybe in future 100% linux (e.g. kubuntu)
[16:17] <linxeh> if you are primarily using ubuntu then I would use ext3 and get stuiable support in windows
[16:17] <linxeh> otherwise use NTFS
[16:17] <linxeh> RobiX: well, use NTFS then :)
[16:17] <simotempler> i have a 40GB divided for xp and ubuntu and then a media / file drive of 300GB for both to use for files which is ntfs
[16:18] <Volgua> hello guys
[16:18] <RobiX> simotempler: well i dont wanna divide it
[16:18] <xeno99> Hi. If I do a sudo blkid, I see that two partitions /dev/sda6 and /dev/sda7 have identical UUIDs. I have one ext3 and 4 FAT32 partitions on the drive in question. The FAT partitions are labelled DISK1_1, DISK1_2 etc. Partitions labelled DISK1_1 (/dev/sda6) and DISK1_3 (/dev/sda7) have the same UUID Is this normal? I thought the UUID was supposed to be unique? Is there a way of fixing this?
[16:18] <Dazed> i love they way you can dock the wobbly windows to the edges and each other
[16:19] <Dazed> theyre like jello
[16:19] <simotempler> ext3 is better but the windows program/drivers to use ext3 froze on my a lot
[16:19] <squarebracket> is there a way to make samba allow more than one concurrent connection?
[16:19] <simotempler> robix how is ur drive set up at the moment
[16:20] <nickrud> xeno99 yes, they are supposed to be unique. You can create a new one and apply it with uuidgen , and tune2fs -U <uuid>
[16:20] <yuro> still my ipod nano not showing "do not disconnect" with ubuntu which is mean both device is not connected. any advice ?
[16:20] <algerian> how to progress amule download
[16:20] <Volgua> witch is better ubuntu or knoppix???
[16:20] <bazhang> Volgua, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[16:20] <xeno99> nickrud, thanks for that. Would there be a reason why it got it wrong in the first place?
[16:20] <RobiX> linxeh: really ntfs? isnt the ntfs-driver under linux better as the ext2fs-driver under windows ?
[16:20] <Rockbuddy> this is nuts
[16:20] <Rockbuddy> :/
[16:21] <RobiX> simotempler: external drive is 100% ntfs
[16:21] <linxeh> RobiX: you spend 80% of your time in Windows, so yes, use NTFS. Fuse and NTFS-3G are really good in Linux now, you wont have any problems
[16:21] <nickrud> xeno99 I had that happen when I did a dd to copy a partition, it got carried over since the uuid is kept in the partition
[16:21] <Dazed> the ntfs support in linux is perfect
[16:21] <Volgua> I mean the linux version
[16:21] <linxeh> RobiX: if at some point you go 100% kubuntu you can look at reformatting as ext3, but until that time I wouldnt bother
[16:21] <simotempler> and the internal drive is split for dual boot ya
[16:21] <Saladin> How can I gain remote access to my Ubuntu 6.06 server through my local 8.04 laptop? I enabled remote desktop viewing on the server, but when I try the vncviewer command on terminal, it doesn't do anything. Help please guys!
[16:21] <xeno99> nickrud, I've never used dd, though
[16:21] <simotempler> then leave the external as ntfs
[16:22] <zorki> how can i test wether y firmware is loaded or not?
[16:22] <simotempler> just setup ubuntu to automatically mount ur ntfs drive on boot up
[16:22] <nickrud> xeno99 something strange happened then. I've never heard of that (in my limited experience, mind you)
[16:22] <RobiX> well i thought linux-freaks wanna use only ext3 ;-))?!
[16:22] <simotempler> ya but i tried
[16:22] <xeno99> nickrud, ok thanks
[16:22] <stemount^> ext3 is a good file system :(
[16:23] <RobiX> why ":("
[16:23] <RobiX> (simotempler)
[16:23] <linxeh> RobiX: sure, in an ideal world you'd use a fully open filesystem. but you arent using linux exclusively yet, and spend most of your time in Windows - for you it makes sense to stick with NTFS for now
[16:23] <SanskritFritz> hi there, I have a Iomega 500G external USB harddrive, i wont mount in xubuntu feisty, but my pendrive does. please help
[16:23] <yuro> i need to get ipod connected with ubuntu please?
[16:23] <simotempler> leave it ntfs if the external drive is to be accessed by both xp and ubuntu as the ext3 drivers for windows always freeze
[16:23] <Volgua> wow sorry
[16:23] <DefunctProcess> anyone know why gparted stalls right away when resizing a partition? I'm using an old 6.10 live cd?
[16:23] <Volgua> I understand
[16:23] <RobiX> linxeh: is it possible to convert NTFS into EXT3 - if i use 100% kubuntu
[16:23] <Volgua> derr
[16:23] <Bernhard> hello. I want to be able to watch movies from my computer on my television. I have a laptop with a GeForce FX Go5200, and I have installed nvidia-settings. My TV is connected via s-video. However, nvidia-settings only shows DFP-0. Can anyone help?
[16:23] <simotempler> speaking from experience here
[16:24] <zorki> Does anybody know?
[16:24] <squarebracket> since people are talking file systems, does ext3 or anything like that have a "date created" thing like ntfs does?
[16:24] <Volgua> where a get a ubuntu version??
[16:25] <bazhang> www.ubuntu.com Volgua
[16:25] <Dazed> you know that water effect you get buy pressing ctrl+alt+special and moving the mouse? How can you make that always on?
[16:25] <Dazed> without pressing the keys
[16:25] <Volgua> thanks I`m a newbie
[16:25] <simotempler> robix ya use gparted
[16:26] <bazhang> Dazed, compiz questions best answered in #compiz-fusion
[16:26] <SanskritFritz> hi there, I have a Iomega 500G external USB harddrive, i wont mount in xubuntu feisty, but my pendrive does. please help
[16:26] <RobiX> simothempler: well i know, but without loosing data?
[16:26] <RobiX> losing
[16:27] <algerian> how to speed amule download
[16:27] <Volgua> what is the special ???
[16:27] <RobiX> simothempler: is it possible to convert without losing data or not?
[16:27] <xeno99> nickrud, if I try that I get a 'Bad Magic number' and a warning about the superblock
[16:27] <simotempler> robix u cant convert without loosing data
[16:28] <bazhang> Volgua, would you like the ubuntu-br channel? brasil?
[16:28] <Volgua> yeah , but how do u know i`m from brazil??
[16:28] <simotempler> cus u r formatting a drive
[16:28] <linxeh> RobiX: no, you can't easily convert - you'd need another disk
[16:29] <RobiX> simotempler, linxeh: tnx ok mh
[16:29] <bazhang> Volgua, then type /join #ubuntu-br
[16:29] <RobiX> i think i will use NTFS
[16:29] <Volgua> ok but how do u know
[16:29] <Volgua> ??
[16:29] <RobiX> but i thought journaling under ext3 is better than NTFS ;(
[16:29] <bazhang> Volgua, your ip address has .br on it
[16:29] <simotempler> ya ntfs is no different really at the end of the day
[16:30] <nickrud> xeno99 then there is probably something odd about your disk formatting, and I am no expert on that. One time, I ended up flushing a disk completely and reformatting, since fdisk couldn't even read it properly ;(
[16:30] <squarebracket> i wish ext3 had time created timestamps :(
[16:30] <Volgua> ok sorry for to much questions...
[16:30] <xeno99> nickrud, it's a FAT32 partition
[16:30] <bazhang> Volgua, no worries :)
[16:30] <nickrud> xeno99 ah, of course then :) that's an ext command
[16:30] <Volgua> ;-)
[16:30] <Saladin> How can I gain remote access to my Ubuntu 6.06 server through my local 8.04 laptop? I enabled remote desktop viewing on the server, but when I try the vncviewer command on terminal, it doesn't do anything. Help please guys!
[16:31] <xeno99> nickrud, is there an equivalent?
[16:31] <nickrud> xeno99 a sec
[16:31] <Volgua> but how do I see the ip of the others???
[16:31] <bazhang> Volgua, turn on join and parts in xchat
[16:31] <AlexMax> I can no longer boot into my Ubuntu 8.04 box, it was working fine until now.  Trying to boot into recovery mode gives me a few "iomem (memory address) could not be reserved" spam.
[16:31] <linxeh> Saladin: did you run vncviewer with the ip of the 6.06 machine?
[16:31] <mandark> can anyone help me get my sound working
[16:31] <linxeh> mandark: what soundcarD?
[16:31] <AlexMax> I really don't have that much else to go on, any ideas?
[16:32] <Saladin> linxeh: Aye, that I did.
[16:32] <mandark> linxeh; SigmaTel
[16:32] <linxeh> Saladin: and you didnt configure any firewall on your 6.06 machine ?
[16:33] <mandark> linxeh; SigmaTel Staac9221
[16:33] <Volgua> ok thanks
[16:33] <Saladin> linxeh: Not that I am aware of - though it wasn't myself that installed 6.06 - twas my hosting provider. As far as I can tell, though, there isn't a firewall
[16:33] <bazhang> np :)
[16:34] <mandark> linxeh; SigmaTel StAC9221
[16:34] <RobiX> linxeh: 1 question left - i thought journaling under ext3 is better than NTFS ?
[16:35] <linxeh> RobiX: likely so, yes - but you are an 80% windows user...
[16:35] <RobiX> linxeh: and if i would be 50:50 :)?
[16:36] <linxeh> RobiX: I'd still stick with NTFS
[16:36] <linxeh> mandark: I saw in here, you shouldn't presume you can just randomly msg people without asking first
[16:37] <linxeh> mandark: you should read the ubuntu forums - there are lots of posts of people having problems with that soundcard, so lots of things to try
[16:37] <liz1> Hi, I've just installed ubuntu 8.04 on my computer but I can't connect to the internet. I can ping my laptop but nothing outside e.g. google. I've given myself an IP-adress using ifconfig. Can anybody help me please?
[16:37] <RobiX> linxeh: well ok i will use NTFS - tnx a lot for helping
[16:37] <bazhang> liz1, wired or wireless
[16:37] <mandark> linxeh; i did tat..i wasnt getting it working..tats y
[16:38] <linxeh> liz1: you need to set a gateway / router IP
[16:38] <RobiX> simotempler: tnx for helping, too
[16:38] <liz1> wired
[16:38] <wildcard> liz1: do a cat /etc/resolv.conf
[16:38] <targaryen> hippu, I just added a monitor to my desktop, set it up, but I can't figure out the shortcut to switch between active screens
[16:38] <Saladin> linxeh: Any ideas on what I can do?
[16:38] <targaryen> *hi
[16:38] <wildcard> liz1: any reference to a nameserver??
[16:38] <linxeh> Saladin: check for any firewall configuration on the server with sudo iptables -L
[16:38] <liz1> there are two nameservers
[16:38] <nickrud> xeno99 I can't find anything about changing vfat uuid's, but you can use LABEL= in fstab, ls -l /dev/disk/by-label shows the labels. You can install mtools and use mlabel to give it one if necssary
[16:39] <linxeh> Saladin: it shouldnt list any configured rules
[16:39] <wildcard> Ok
[16:39] <bazhang> liz1, what about opening a terminal and typing ifconfig; do you see eth0?
[16:39] <linxeh> Saladin: next thing is to check the vnc server is actually running on that machine - it might not be
[16:39] <wildcard> Liz1: can you ping the nameservers?
[16:39] <liz1> yes, I can see eth0
[16:39] <linxeh> bazhang: type route -n - does it list a default gateway ?
[16:39] <overclocker> hi, i've a dell xps m1330 but i couldn't read pro memories, sd works fine, any ideas?
[16:39] <liz1> the first one is unreachable
[16:40] <wildcard> liz1: ok
[16:40] <bazhang> liz1, what does sudo dhclient eth0 return
[16:40] <cheryle> hello, something is wrong with mu ubuntu version.. i do not see the minimize, maximize,and close boxes... can anyone help?
[16:40] <liz1> and the 2nd one too
[16:40] <bazhang> linxeh, I think you mean liz1 :)
[16:40] <linxeh> yeah I did :)
[16:40] <TEN> ﻿Does anyone know if there's such a thing as http://fineprint.com/products/fineprint/benefits.html in Ubuntu to spool various print jobs into one? Concatenating PostScript files into psnup isn't exactly intuitive nor interactive...
[16:40] <wildcard> Liz1: ok so you don't have network properly setup
[16:40] <linxeh> liz1: try route -n
[16:40] <linxeh> liz1: you should have a line with a "UG" as the flags
[16:40] <raut> does anyone know of a good channel for hardware-related booting problems (specifically I think my computer wont boot because the internal power cords are not connected properly)
[16:41] <wildcard> Liz1: what does the route -n tell you?
[16:41] <nickrud> xeno99 one other thing: try rebooting before altering anything, see if the UUID gets changed. I do remember having to do that after making a UUID change, the -by-uuid wouldn't update
[16:41] <liz1> dhclient returns sending several stuff  and in the end bound to .. and renewal, no errors
[16:42] <Saladin> linxeh: I can't see any configured rules. And how do I check the vnc server is running?
[16:42] <bazhang> liz1, can you ping www.google.com
[16:42] <liz1> i have the ug line
[16:42] <targaryen> I set my extra monitor up on a separate X screen, and got nvidia working fine on it with proper resolution and all
[16:42] <wildcard> Can you ping the ip address in the ug line?
[16:42] <liz1> now I can ping google
[16:42] <wildcard> :D
[16:42] <wildcard> Nice
[16:42] <bazhang> liz1, what about opening firefox and going there?
[16:43] <Saladin> linxeh: Damn my hosting provider for not allowing 8.04.1 - it works fine with that
[16:43] <ckosloff>  /msg ubottu etiquette
[16:43] <liamkmc> bofins
[16:43] <wildcard> Liz1: So there was something wrong with you DHCP lease
[16:43] <liz1> x doesn't work yet, I've got only a shell I'm in recovery mode
[16:43] <liz1> ok, thanks:)
[16:43] <wildcard> Liz1: More problems?
[16:43] <bazhang> :)
[16:43] <liz1> the x-server, yes
[16:43] <jump1n> need help
[16:44] <liz1> but I don't no at all why it doesn't work
[16:44] <bazhang> jump1n, need a question
[16:44] <liz1> *know
[16:44] <liamkmc> is this all u do all day?
[16:44] <jump1n> lol  okay.. how do I log in as admin to install a game for my son to play?
[16:44] <bazhang> liz1, what error does it give
[16:44] <wildcard> liz1: Ok. So you don't see the login propt?
[16:44] <yuro> why does my ipod nano not showing "do not disconnect" on its screen ? it doestn connected with ubuntu
[16:44] <bazhang> liamkmc, day and night
[16:44] <targaryen> Does anyone else use dual monitors here?
[16:44] <liamkmc> yay fun
[16:44] <liamkmc> i use dual
[16:44] <linxeh> Saladin: well, it should work with 6.06 too, little changed
[16:45] <liz1> yes, I can see my mouse as a big flickering square and rest is grey
[16:45] <liamkmc> but i forgot how...
[16:45] <bazhang> jump1n, what game; from repos or 3rd party site
[16:45] <targaryen> liamkmc, how do you switch the active screen?
[16:45] <jump1n> americas army
[16:45] <wildcard> Liz1: that's a basic X startup
[16:45] <linxeh> Saladin: I dont use VNC on ubuntu I'm afraid, so I'm not the best person to ask though - tried the forums / wiki ?
[16:45] <liamkmc> i 4got sorry
[16:45] <wildcard> Liz1: That's strange. Your missing your Gnome/KDE setup
[16:45] <wildcard> Liz1: Did you remove something?
[16:45]  * Pirate_Hunter bored so bored
[16:45] <liamkmc> i haven't used ubuntu in a couple years now
[16:46] <liz1> it might have prblems with my graphics board, while setting up my mouse was invisible
[16:46] <Pirate_Hunter> liamkmc: you havent... so why are you here?
[16:46] <liz1> it didn't remove anything, I've never logged in yet
[16:46] <wildcard> liz1: what type of graphics board?
[16:46] <liz1> nvidia
[16:46] <wildcard> liz1: Ow
[16:46] <jump1n> can somene pm me with help... getting lost
[16:46] <liamkmc> pirate_hunter: im using it now
[16:47] <ckosloff> I am totally new to Ubuntu, this is my first post, so please be patient, OK? I installed Ubuntu, but I cannot login as root, did not set up a password during install. I never was asked for it either. How do I solve that problem?
[16:47] <wildcard> Liz1: Are you using the nvidia driver or the NV driver (from Xorg)?
[16:47] <targaryen> ckosloff, run sudo passwd root
[16:47] <liamkmc> u dont login as root it baaad
[16:47] <targaryen> Then enter your first user's password
[16:48] <targaryen> At that point it will let you change the root password
[16:48] <liz1> i#ve got also a windows partition and there I've installed the driver from the nvidia cd, with ubuntu i haven't installed anything yet
[16:48] <wildcard> Ah
[16:48] <wildcard> Ok
[16:48] <ghostlines> i just built a new kerneln and kept the old version of grub instead of using the package maintainers version by mistake
[16:48] <phr0z1> ckosloff: dont log in as root for ubuntu. Put sudo in front of commands you want to run with admin privs. Dont change the root password as suggested.
[16:48] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AmericasArmy jump1n
[16:48] <ghostlines> how can i add my new kernel to the grublist?
[16:48] <bazhang> oh he left
[16:48] <ghostlines> is the only way to manually add it?
[16:48] <wildcard> Liz1: You can check with sudo grep -i nv /etc/X11/*
[16:49] <bazhang> targaryen, not good advice here
[16:49] <liz1> binary file /etc/X11/X matches
[16:49] <targaryen> Sorry, I only login to root when I have a lot of stuff that needs root access and I don't want to be bothered typing sudo all of the time
[16:50] <wildcard> Liz1: Ok so that means that the X11 has not been configured
[16:50] <wildcard> Liz1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[16:50] <liamkmc> targayren: use su then
[16:50] <bazhang> targaryen, that is your choice but please dont recommend here thanks
[16:50] <targaryen> bazhang, Can you tell me how to switch active screens with multiple monitors?
[16:50] <ds[de]> targaryen, but its dangerous advice to a new user
[16:50] <raut> can someone help me with grub error 21
[16:50] <bazhang> indeed
[16:50] <targaryen> You're right, it is
[16:51] <liz1> thanks a lot!
[16:51] <VanilleBert> ﻿/msg ubottu etiquette
[16:51] <vasy> hi
[16:51] <liamkmc> hi
[16:51] <wildcard> Liz1: No problem. There a number of articals you can find with google and ubuntuforums.org
[16:52] <ckosloff> I need to install XAMPP for Linux, got a tar.gz on my desktop. These are the instructions from apachefriends,org # Go to a Linux shell and login as the system administrator root:
[16:52] <ckosloff> su
[16:52] <ckosloff> # Extract the downloaded archive file to /opt:
[16:52] <ckosloff> tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.6.7.tar.gz -C /opt
[16:52] <newk> i have a brand new kubuntu install that worked out of box wit my wired internet but now on last start the internet connects to ip 0.0.0.0 and doesnt allow access to the internet
[16:52] <bazhang> ckosloff, no not with that command
[16:52] <ckosloff> but when I type that command it does not find the file
[16:53] <Flacker> does hardy support the Dell Wireless 1390 card?
[16:53] <ckosloff> what is the command then, please?
[16:53] <phr0z1> Boot the hardy CD and try it in live mode
[16:55] <pen> hey
[16:55] <Dannyboyni> hi
[16:55] <bazhang> ckosloff, install via synaptic
[16:55] <bazhang> Flacker, what chipset? broadcom?
[16:56] <ckosloff> bazhang, tried that already, maybe I do not know how...
[16:58] <xeno99> Anyone know how to change the UUID of a FAT32 partition?
[16:58] <Flacker> bazhang its broadcom
[16:58] <histo> xeno99: why would you want to change th UUID
[16:58] <histo> xeno99: you can still refer to it by /dev/sdx
[16:59] <AlexMax> I remember back when I installed Ubuntu it asked me if I needed some extra kernel options.  I found out that when I did this, it applied the kernel options every time I updated the kernel.
[16:59] <xeno99> histo, because I have two partitions with identical UUIDs and I want to fix it
[16:59] <AlexMax> How do I update this list of 'automatically applied kernel options'?
[16:59] <bazhang> Flacker, sure it can work
[16:59] <wers> what sound recorder would you recommend for recording musical instruments? cant do it with audacity. i dont know why
[16:59] <bazhang> !broadcom
[16:59] <mm2000> Hi there. Using ubuntu and wants go get a noce desktop feature telling me when I've got mail. Suggestions?
[16:59] <AlexMax> Beucase I just realized that I need a few more kernel options automatically applied
[16:59] <bazhang> Flacker, ^^
[17:00] <jazzkutya> histo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=480226 google first result
[17:00] <AlexMax> apparently all_generic_ide isn't enough to get my system consistently booting, I need irqpoll and acpi=off.  Thing is, I'd prefer they automatically be applied to the boot menu entry when I update the kernel, and at this point only all_generic_ide applies because I speicified that durring install
[17:00] <Finnish_> How do I render in Avidemux? I'm able to cut films etc, but how do I make it final product?
[17:00] <ckosloff> anybody know how to install XAMPP?
[17:01] <Dannyboyni> could someone please help me forward ports 49160:49500 using iptables?
[17:01] <nickrud> ckosloff you shouldn't use xampp, ubuntu comes with a good lamp stack.  sudo tasksel install lamp
[17:01] <Flacker> got it
[17:01] <nickrud> ckosloff webroot is at /var/www
[17:02] <nickrud> AlexMax you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst , look for #defopts and add it there. Don't remove the #
[17:02] <sol__> try firestarter..
[17:03] <bazhang> ckosloff, this is for development only right?
[17:03] <nickrud> AlexMax after you make the change, run sudo update-grub and the defopts will be added to the kernel lines
[17:03] <ckosloff> nickrud, sudo tasksel install lamp returns me to the prompt, I am logged in as su.
[17:03] <nickrud> ckosloff  then just   tasksel install lamp
[17:03] <DkySven> hello people
[17:03] <histo> jazzkutya: what?
[17:04] <DkySven> I have a problem with the manual to install the newest ATI driver
[17:04] <Igramul_> DkySven: Just install without the manual (sorry)
[17:04] <Dazed> in preferred applications, when i try to change the one for multimedia, i get 2 options in the dropdown box, totem and rhythm box... how do i change it to the VLC player i installed?
[17:04] <Dazed> I want it to always open my videos
[17:04] <nickrud> ckosloff or possibly lamp-server , you can also just run   tasksel  and do it interactively
[17:04] <Igramul_> DkySven: What's your specific problem?
[17:05] <ckosloff> nickrud, tasksel install lamp returns me to the prompt, maybe because I am logged in as root?
[17:05] <DkySven> I can't find the fglrx-kernel-source_<version>.deb and the xorg-driver-fglrx_<version>.deb files
[17:05] <nickrud> ckosloff no, I probably have the wrong task name.   Just run   tasksel   , you can do it interactively
[17:05] <Dazed> Theres also a "custom" where i can type in a command line, but putting vlc doesnt work
[17:05] <DkySven> I even don't know which versions I need
[17:05] <ripps> Can anyone here help me modify a widget?
[17:06] <DkySven> btw, it's this manual:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[17:06] <xeno99> Anyone know how to change the UUID of a FAT32 partition? For some reason, I have two the same
[17:06] <Igramul_> DkySven: afaik these are contained in source code in the driver package and can be compiled, if the kernel source is installed
[17:06] <DkySven> btw, it's this manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[17:06] <DkySven> ok
[17:06] <AlexMax> nickrod: thank you
[17:07] <Sonderblade> how can i check if my dvd device can burn dvds or only cds?
[17:07] <schone> hey all is there a quick way to install apache ant in ubuntu?
[17:07] <DkySven> Sonderblade: is there dvd-r/rw at your cd player?
[17:07] <neurobuntu> How do I get Firefox to open over an SSH connection?
[17:07] <ckosloff> nickrud, OK got that one, but it returned me to the prompt, now that I know the procedure will login as my user and run it.
[17:07] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-333714.html Dazed
[17:07] <Sonderblade> DkySven: i *think* so
[17:08] <duiu> neurobuntu: you need x-server on the ssh client
[17:08] <Dazed> thanks
[17:08] <ckosloff> Thanks!!!
[17:08] <Igramul_> neurobuntu: ssh -X user@host /path/to/firefox
[17:08] <DkySven> if there is you can burn DVDs
[17:08] <neurobuntu> Igramul_,  I've been doing that but firefox only opens as a local instance
[17:08] <Sonderblade> DkySven: how do i know?
[17:09] <bazhang> Sonderblade, you tried putting in a dvd-r yet?
[17:09] <duiu> neurobuntu: by local instance, do you mean opens on the ssh server or ssh client machine?
[17:09] <DkySven> look at the front of your CD-la
[17:09] <Igramul> neurobuntu: What do you mean by "local instance"?
[17:09] <Sonderblade> bazhang: reading dvds work, but i dont know if burning them works or not
[17:09] <xeno99> ﻿Anyone know how to change the UUID of a FAT32 partition? For some reason, I have two the same
[17:10] <Dazed> bazhang, that didnt help me
[17:10] <bazhang> Sonderblade, lshw
[17:10] <Dazed> that tells how to make vlc the default dvd player when dvd is inserted
[17:10] <neurobuntu> duiu, Igramul, firefox is being run on my LOCAL machine.... I know this b/c it has my local bookmarks and I can't browse the intra-net website of the machine i'm connected to
[17:10] <Dazed> but not for videos i already have
[17:10] <bazhang> Dazed, you didnt read carefully then works for all sorts of situations not just dvds
[17:10] <duiu> neurobuntu: itr's suppossed to do that
[17:11] <Igramul> neurobuntu: Try logging in with "ssh -X user@remote" and after logging in, try starting firefox
[17:11] <ripps> Can anyone here help me modify a widget?
[17:11] <mm2000> Hi there. Using ubuntu and wants go get a noce desktop feature telling me when I've got mail. Suggestions?
[17:11] <DkySven> thanks for the help
[17:11] <mernil> Ohh.. it remindes me.. I have an analog tv-card. Can i route it this way: from the antenna -> into the computer -> and into the tv. And the tv, still works when the pc is off?
[17:12] <Sonderblade> bazhang: ok?
[17:12] <bazhang> Sonderblade, try that command in terminal
[17:12] <Dazed> thanks baz
[17:12] <bazhang> np
[17:12] <nickrud> Sonderblade put in a dvd and try wodim -checkdrive
[17:12] <Dannyboyni> could someone please help me forward ports with iptables, and also be able to know if they are open or not
[17:13] <jazzkutya> mernil: you should buy a tv ant splitter.
[17:13] <mernil> jazzkutya: it's not really an antenna, but i know what you mean.. i just want to cut my expenses.. ;-)
[17:13] <joejoecircusbo1> mernil: That completely depends on the tv-card. As the OS won't be running, it can't exactly manage the hardware at the time
[17:13] <Sonderblade> nickrud: i dont have any dvds
[17:14] <joejoecircusbo1> mernil: Did you try it? It might just work...
[17:14] <jazzkutya> mernil: i guess analog tv cards do not have an rf out connector so you have to spend money on this
[17:14] <jazzkutya> it's cheap
[17:14] <mm2000> Hi there. Using ubuntu and wants go get a noce desktop feature telling me when I've got mail. Suggestions?
[17:14] <nickrud> Sonderblade ok, when I do so without a dvd it says it appears to be a dvd r/w, but when I put in a blank it loads the dvd writer module
[17:14] <mernil> joejoecircusbo1: i have not tried it, but i read somehere that you could re-direct it to the tv after you shout your pc-down.
[17:15] <joejoecircusbo1> mernil: Ah, I've never heard of that... but sounds plausible.
[17:15] <mernil> jazzkutya: you cant belive how many connectors i have .. unused .. most built-in the mothercard, alas unusable for linux :-P
[17:16] <joejoecircusbo1> mernil: the tv-card has an antenna-out jack, right?
[17:16] <quatar-i1> why should a quite-new computer (a sony vaio) with an hardy installed go so slow with an irresponsive firefox? It's because of my request to play a flash-game? If i do the system update everytime it asks me to do it, could sone flash update be still missing?
[17:16] <mernil> joejoecircusbo1: no big deal. yeah
[17:16] <quatar-i1> Why sometimes good, sometimes bad?
[17:17] <joejoecircusbo1> mernil: I'd try it, and if it does work, buy a splitter (no point spending 6 hours messing with something to avoid buying a $5 adapter ;) )
[17:17] <sparr> is there a filtering proxy for linux that can decrypt ssl sessions like proxomitron for windows?
[17:17] <quatar-i1> being more direct: how can i check for available flash updates?
[17:17] <quatar-i1> (hi all, anyway)
[17:17] <mernil> to be honest, i dont even know what to use a tv-card for, is it to be able to watch dvd's on the television? .. okay, thanks joejoecircusbo1 :-) *kisses*
[17:18] <bazhang> quatar-i1, which flash is installed and how was it installed
[17:18] <LeChuck1980> Hallo zusammen .. jemand hier der Deutsch spricht ?
[17:18] <jazzkutya> mernil: you can watch dvd's on tv without a tv card. your videocard should have a tv-out connector for this
[17:18] <Seveas> !de | LeChuck1980
[17:18] <bazhang> LeChuck1980, #ubuntu-de
[17:18] <quatar-i1> bazhang: flash plugin installed when firefox requested
[17:18] <joejoecircusbo1> mernil: you can receive tv channel, and play them as video on your computer (in real time)
[17:18] <LeChuck1980> ah thx
[17:18] <LeChuck1980> sorry for distrub
[17:18] <mernil> man.. to mush info here.. i get confused :-O
[17:18] <bazhang> quatar-i1, what does about plugins say in ff
[17:19] <chazco> Hi... is the Ubuntu /home compatible with other distros? (e.g. if i removed Ubuntu and installed something else would it work?)
[17:19] <Seveas> chazco, not necessarily
[17:19] <quatar-i1> bazhang: !?
[17:19] <nickrud> chazco more often than not
[17:19] <mernil> sorry, im about to get an information-overkill.
[17:19] <qr_> chazco: the stuff in the .folders may not work properly, but the data will all be there
[17:19] <joejoecircusbo1> mernil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_tuner_card << read this at your leisure
[17:19]  * nickrud thinks cup half full, Seveas thinks half empty :)
[17:19] <Seveas> nickrud, :)
[17:20] <quatar-i1> bazhang: flash plugin 9.0 r124
[17:20] <mernil> joejoecircusbo1: thanks for your consern!
[17:20] <Seveas> nickrud, been bitten by that a bit too often. Stopped using other distros :)
[17:20] <chazco> Ah :) Interesting answers... i take it the major stuff should work (e.g. xchat type files)... will the usernames be able to match the new system? (ie, create a new user, but to a folder thats already there)
[17:20] <liamkmc> does anyone now where i can learn the basics?
[17:20] <mernil> i do the same for poor people at our church
[17:20] <nickrud> Seveas what other distro's? Never heard of them
[17:20] <quatar-i1> but... i have no precise problems.. it only takes slow or irresponsive randomly bazhang
[17:20] <Seveas> chazco, if you make sure the UID is the same as well, that will work
[17:20] <mernil> THE CHURCH OF SATAN! I'LL GIVE THEM BLOOD AND MAYHEM
[17:20] <bazhang> quatar-i1, need tons more info to help
[17:20] <Seveas> chazco, if the UID differs, hell breaks loos
[17:21] <mernil> it was a joke, sorry! :-)
[17:21] <bazhang> mernil, not here
[17:21] <quatar-i1> now it's workin good while two mnutes ago it didn't
[17:21] <underandy> Is it "bad" to use EXT3 on my EEE 900?
[17:21] <chazco> Ah okay thanks Seveas - i need to switch distros for now on the laptop
[17:21] <Seveas> chazco, noooooooooooooo, stay with us :)
[17:21] <quatar-i1> bazhang: next time, thanks anyway
[17:21] <neurobuntu> Igramul, ok I tried that and I'm still getting my local setting showing up
[17:21] <joejoecircusbo1> underandy: should be fine, why?
[17:21] <chazco> Seveas - Would like too, but need better performance (especially boot-times)
[17:21] <nickrud> Seveas of course, I was thinking more along the lines of different versions of software using slightly different configs. More subtle errors
[17:21] <chazco> Keeping it on the desktop PC though :)
[17:21] <underandy> joejoecircusbo1, they did recommend to use "ext" :S
[17:21] <underandy> 2*
[17:21] <bazhang> underandy, check www.eeeuser.com wiki for how to get ubuntu working perfectly on that
[17:21] <metheon> Guys how come I can only use irc and no other internet thing, not even ping :p
[17:22] <ds[de]> chazco: http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/10things/?p=387 10 ways to make linux boot faster :P
[17:22] <joejoecircusbo1> underandy: the probably mean ext2 or ext3
[17:22] <Seveas> nickrud, subtlety is a concept lost on me. Blunt force trauma is my game when it comes to incompatibilities :)
[17:22] <mernil> bbl
[17:22] <underandy> joejoecircusbo1, yes, but its ok to run ext3 then?
[17:22] <liamkmc> where can i find the basics?
[17:22] <nickrud> metheon what's in your /etc/resolv.conf ? That's what determines how web addresses get resolved/found
[17:22] <Seveas> metheon, you have a crude network administrator who blocks everything except irc?
[17:23] <joejoecircusbo1> underandy: I can't of any reason why it would matter - run any file system you want
[17:23] <bazhang> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy liamkmc
[17:23] <bazhang> liamkmc, lots of links there too
[17:23] <ds[de]> Seveas: :) oldschool sysadmin with a grunt against fancy protocols like http :P
[17:23] <joejoecircusbo1> underandy: (ext3 is a good choice for Linux though)
[17:23] <underandy> joejoecircusbo1, because its a SSD disk.
[17:23] <chazco> underandy - The reason ext3 is sometimes recommended to be avoided is it writes a lot (journal), which may be bad for a SSD HDD (limited writes)... Its a topic with a lot of debate behind it, so best to read up on it
[17:23] <liamkmc> bazhang: why is flash player so slow?
[17:23] <dewman> hi friends
[17:23] <underandy> chazco, ok
[17:23] <Seveas> ds[de], :) UUCP ftw
[17:24] <bazhang> liamkmc, need more info; its not here
[17:24] <joejoecircusbo1> underandy: the SSD electronics will spread read/writes over the disk... don't worry about that - just treat it as a regular HDD
[17:24] <dewman> can you pls suggest some good IM softwares for ubuntu
[17:24] <underandy> joejoecircusbo1, thank you
[17:24] <joejoecircusbo1> underandy: np
[17:24] <underandy> joejoecircusbo1, have 1 more question
[17:24] <Seveas> dewman, pidgin, empathy, emesene
[17:24] <underandy> If I wanna install Ubuntu on my Desktop-computer, what FS should i use? reiserfs?
[17:24] <issyl0> dewman, IM as in Instant Messaging?  Pidgin.
[17:24] <underandy> I got some good hardware
[17:24] <Seveas> underandy, ext3 or xfs
[17:24] <bazhang> underandy, ext3
[17:25] <chazco> ds[de] - Had a go at lots of that, still doesnt help... even XP beats Ubuntu by miles
[17:25] <underandy> hm
[17:25] <underandy> xfs ?
[17:25] <iLogik> dewman, pidgin is the default client.. give that a try
[17:25] <Seveas> reiser(fs) kills
[17:25] <neorab> lol
[17:25] <urbanmonkey> wow, that was bad Seveas
[17:25] <dewman> pidgin is not that good
[17:25] <ds[de]> chazco, strange, my ubuntu boot kills xp boot in terms of speed
[17:26] <Seveas> urbanmonkey, I've seen reiserfs blow up in my face a few times too often
[17:26] <Igramul> neurobuntu: try the following "URL" in the browser: file:///etc/hostname
[17:26] <liamkmc> pidgin is good just pimp it out a bit
[17:26] <chazco> ds[de] - Heard people say that, but its not the case here, even with the clocksource workround
[17:26] <joejoecircusbo1> underandy: If you're running Linux (Ubuntu or any distro) just use ext3....  the other filesystems are not going give a new user any benefits, just hassle
[17:26] <neurobuntu> Igramul, its giving me the name of my localhost
[17:26] <neurobuntu> not the remote machine
[17:27] <wildcard> Does somebody have a working CPUFREQ setup for an ATOM cpu??
[17:27] <Igramul> neurobuntu: erm - You _did_ log in to the remote machine, right?
[17:27] <wildcard> It's on a D945GCLF
[17:27] <neurobuntu> yes i did: ssh -X user@remoteHOST
[17:27] <neurobuntu> then /usr/bin/./firefox in the ssh terminal
[17:28] <underandy> joejoecircusbo1, :) ok
[17:28] <ghostlines> i just finished builind a new kernel and now all my firefox bookmarks, history and deluge .torrent files, are gone, does someone know why this happened?
[17:28] <ghostlines> *built
[17:28] <rubydiamond> Hey anybody using virtualbox on ubuntu?
[17:28] <Oins> I have the following config: http://paste.debian.net/14365/ and get the following error: http://paste.debian.net/14367/. Has anyone a clue what the problem could be? The .15 IP is a Windows XP Client. Why is the client not authorized? Printing works perfect.
[17:28] <ghostlines> yeah i do
[17:28] <Seveas> !anybody | rubydiamond
[17:28] <face-shot> how can you erase "gksudo" rights for your session? say I did some work with it, then I want to discard my rights after I'm done, instead of wating for X minutes -- is there a command to do this?
[17:28] <Igramul> neurobuntu: try "hostname" in that ssh-console.
[17:28] <Seveas> face-shot, sudo -k
[17:28] <neurobuntu> Igramul, that gives me the remotehost
[17:28] <face-shot> thank you
[17:29] <neurobuntu> Igramul, i'm wondering if there is something setup in firefox to run the binary from the remote host but use the localhosts connection
[17:29] <rubydiamond> I am not able to full screen windows xp on ubuntu gutsy using virtualbox
[17:29] <bazhang> liamkmc, open up synaptic and do a search for flash
[17:29] <liamkmc> bahzang: i try sudo update-alternatives --config mozilla-flashplugin but it still slow
[17:29] <bazhang> liamkmc, you want the nonfree one
[17:30] <bazhang> liamkmc, slow doing what
[17:30] <Igramul> neurobuntu: I do not see how firefox could detect that. Anyhow, there is no way to access the local filesystem for remote programs.
[17:30] <liamkmc> bahzang: but i cannot watch youtube as it is v laggy
[17:30] <face-shot> hmm, sudo -k doesn't seem to work. It doesn't prompt me for a password (via gksudo)
[17:30] <Grobvok> rubydiamond: Go to Devices -> Install Guest Additions.
[17:30] <cheryle> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[17:30] <cheryle>  .. whatdoes this mean?
[17:30] <bazhang> liamkmc, you mean full screen?
[17:31] <neurobuntu> Igramul, I think I'll probably just install another web browser on the remote machine (one that I don't have on localhost) and see if that fixes the problem
[17:31] <liamkmc> bahzang: meaning everything
[17:31] <rubydiamond> Grobvok: I click on it .. but its not opening in window
[17:31] <dewman> any new IM for MSN?
[17:31] <iLogik> dewman, amsn has a new version
[17:31] <cheryle> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-security/universe/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2  Could not resolve ':@'
[17:31] <Grobvok> rubydiamond: It mounts an image in the guest OS. Go to My computer in Windows and open it from there.
[17:32] <liamkmc> bahzang: i had gnash previouly installed and it worked fine but i tried the original flash player and its laggy
[17:32] <bluekb> I'm having trouble getting my system to recognize my new USB bluetooth adapter and bluetooth headset.
[17:32] <Grobvok> rubydiamond: Did you install it?
[17:32] <andresmh> I tried apt-get install firefox-3.0 on my fiesty and I get this error: E: Couldn't find package firefox-3.0   any ideas/
[17:32] <andresmh> ?
[17:33] <broken> Hey Im a bit confused with using rsync, I read the man page... but I'm not sure how I'd copy over a directory with many subdirectories roughly 18gb, thing is I used SCP before and it lsot connection half way through so i don't want to re-copy what I already have. But I'm not sure what the command in rsync would look like. rsync -r directory/ othercomputer::/home/Desktop? or..
[17:33] <Grobvok> rubydiamond: If you have it installed, press Right Ctrl + f.
[17:33] <Seveas> broken, rsync -a
[17:33] <liamkmc> andresmh try in synaptic
[17:33] <rubydiamond> What do you mean by "Go to My computer in Windows and open it from there."
[17:33] <andresmh> ok, i will liamkmc , thanks!
[17:33] <rubydiamond> Grobvok: ^^
[17:33] <face-shot> Seveas, what's the "sudo -k" equivalent with gksudo? "sudo -k" doesn't seem to affect the gnome prompt
[17:34] <Seveas> broken, also: trailing slashes matter!
[17:34] <Seveas> face-shot, not even if you run it from the alt-f2 dialog?
[17:34] <rubydiamond> Grobvok: If I do ctrl+f its not real full screen
[17:34] <andresmh> liamkmc: in synaptic, the package firefox says  latest version : 2.0.0.16+0n
[17:34] <andresmh> not 3
[17:34] <rubydiamond> its small window.. with black around it
[17:34] <face-shot> I tried it from the console, let me see...
[17:34] <DkySven> when I type fglrxinfo the info is what it should be, only at the bottom there's written 'segmentation fault'. How can I solve this?
[17:34] <broken> Seveas: Oh ok.. so I use rsync -a directorytocopy/ othercomputer::/home/Desktop/directorytocopy/
[17:35] <face-shot> there we go...
[17:35] <face-shot> thank you Seveas
[17:35] <Grobvok> Grobvok: Go to Devices -> Install Guest Additions, Go to My computer in Windows (in the virtual machine), open the virtual CDROM, install by open ing the .exe and reboot the virtual machine.
[17:35] <liamkmc> andresmh try sudo apt-get update then try sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[17:35] <Grobvok> I mean rubydiamond
[17:35] <ds[de]> DkySven: type 'whereis fglrxinfo'
[17:35] <neurobuntu> Igramul, I have Konquerer installed on the remote machine and I got that to work...
[17:35] <Seveas> broken, I'd use directorytocopy other:/home/Desktop
[17:36] <Grobvok> rubydiamond: ﻿Go to Devices -> Install Guest Additions, Go to My computer in Windows (in the virtual machine), open the virtual CDROM, install by open ing the .exe and reboot the virtual machine.
[17:36] <Seveas> broken, and always try with rsync -n to see if it does what you want :)
[17:36] <TemplePrime> how do I disable the X Server so I log in directly into a shell using Ubuntu Linux 8.04 LTS?
[17:36] <Dr_willis> TemplePrime,  disable the gdm/kdm/whateverdm service - is the normal way
[17:36] <Seveas> TemplePrime, sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[17:36] <rubydiamond> Grobvok: which .exe?
[17:36] <bzhao999> somebody here is using openoffice ?
[17:36] <firejeep> log out and change the session
[17:37] <TemplePrime> Seveas, I dont want it for ever
[17:37] <ompaul> TemplePrime, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[17:37] <TemplePrime> thanks
[17:37] <andresmh> liamkmc: when doing sudo apt-get update I get Err http://download.tuxfamily.org ubuntu/bluetooth Packages   404 Not Found
[17:37] <HoNgOuRu> help, how can set my joypad in snes9x ???
[17:37] <ds[de]> after setting an alias, how can I make it permanent?
[17:37] <broken> Seveas: hm it says it has no persmission to create folder /home/Desktop
[17:37] <Seveas> andresmh, that's an unsupported repo. We don't help with that :)
[17:38] <andresmh> i ignored and tried sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0 but i still got the E: Couldn't find package firefox-3.0 error
[17:38] <andresmh> oh
[17:38] <Seveas> broken, /home/yourusername/Desktop ;)
[17:38] <ompaul> broken, /home/YourUserNameNere/Desktop/
[17:38] <ompaul> ahh
[17:38] <ompaul> Seveas, you are too fast ;-)
[17:38] <andresmh> i guess i should get rid of my unsupported repo
[17:38] <broken> doh!
[17:38] <Seveas> ompaul, and *without* the slash here, this is rsync :)
[17:38] <bazhang> HoNgOuRu, via the config menu; may want to try zsnes as it is better
[17:38] <Dr_willis> andresmh,  not a lot we can do if the repo is broken in any case. :)
[17:38] <ompaul> Seveas, ack
[17:38] <Grobvok> rubydiamond: VBoxGuestAdditions.exe
[17:38] <liamkmc> andresmh: yer
[17:38] <andresmh> how do i remove the unsupported repo? i don't even remember how i added that
[17:38] <andresmh> it's been a while since i haven't used this machine
[17:38] <underandy> hmm, what would be the best way to partition a disk for Desktop use?
[17:39] <HoNgOuRu> yes, but zsnes doen` t has support for amd64
[17:39] <HoNgOuRu> thanks
[17:39] <liamkmc> andresmh: im 13 lol
[17:39] <HoNgOuRu> but the configuration menu doesn`t help much
[17:39] <Mooojka> to get tv out working is there something special I need to do?
[17:39] <bazhang> underandy, get a separate home partition
[17:39] <nickrud> andresmh it'll be in /etc/apt/sources.list or a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[17:39] <underandy> bazhang, for what reason? havent understood that yet
[17:39] <HoNgOuRu> snes9x checks /dev/js0 but my joypad is in /dev/input/js0
[17:40] <HoNgOuRu> and a symbolic link doesn` t seem to be working
[17:40] <Dr_willis> HoNgOuRu,  file a bug against snes9x, and you can set that in the settings ir ecall.. or make a symbolic link. (unless you mess up and get them backwards like I do)
[17:40] <rubydiamond> Grobvok: I installed windows xp in virtualbox in ubuntu
[17:40] <rubydiamond> which is guest
[17:40] <HoNgOuRu> MOOJKA, if u are using nvidia cards check nvidia-settings as super user
[17:40] <rubydiamond> and which is host?
[17:40] <DkySven> ds[de] whois fglrxinfo gives /usr/bin/fglrxinfo
[17:41] <Mooojka> HoNgOuRu: I'm using some intel I think
[17:41] <DkySven> ds[de]: whois fglrxinfo gives /usr/bin/fglrxinfo
[17:41] <bazhang> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome underandy
[17:41] <Grobvok> rubydiamond: Guest is Windows, host is Ubuntu.
[17:41] <HoNgOuRu> "file a bug " ???
[17:41] <andresmh> cool. ok i removed the unsupported repo, i did sudo apt-get update and no errors. but when i try sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0, i get the same E: Culdn't find package firefox-3.0
[17:41] <Dr_willis> HoNgOuRu,  yes. Most all programs should be using /dev/input/js0 now a days.. not /dev/js0
[17:41] <Grobvok> rubydiamond: Start the Windows machine. And do what I said earlier.
[17:42] <rubydiamond> hmm .. Grobvok I am installed virtual box in ubuntu .. then installed windows in it.
[17:42] <HoNgOuRu> amd64 is the name of the 64 bit architecture
[17:42] <Mooojka> Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
[17:42] <nickrud> andresmh hardy?
[17:42] <HoNgOuRu> amd won the race, that` s why
[17:42] <rubydiamond> so its very strange that guest is ubuntu
[17:42] <HoNgOuRu> yes
[17:42] <Dr_willis> AMD was first out of the gate... the race is just gettting started. :)
[17:42] <HoNgOuRu> so a symlink may do?
[17:42] <Grobvok> rubydiamond: Guest is Windows.
[17:42] <rubydiamond> Grobvok: you mean start windows inside virtual box right?
[17:42] <Bob_Dole_> does anyone know how to turn off the secure connection requirement from a terminal?
[17:42] <Dr_willis> HoNgOuRu,  the symlink fix - has worked for me in the past.
[17:42] <Grobvok> rubydiamond: Yes.
[17:42] <zbrahead91> In intrepid, the new netwrok-manager (and the old one) refused to let me use a GUI to manually configure my IP address on my LAN. The old one allowed me to edit /etc/network/interfaces and it worked. However, the new network-manager does not seem to use this file. How can I fix this?
[17:42] <HoNgOuRu> ok
[17:43] <Seveas> HoNgOuRu, actually, the official name is x86_64. amd64 is what it's called in debian and derivatives because they supported the architecture before the name debate was settled
[17:43] <Dr_willis> HoNgOuRu,  check the snes9x command line options also and config files.. if you cant find the right settings in its setting menus
[17:43] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-438989.html HoNgOuRu
[17:43] <HoNgOuRu> oh, I didn`t know that
[17:43] <SamuraiSword> I'm looking for some encryption tools, also a wipe tool, but was wondering if there is a gui wiping utility? And anything else you can recommend for encryption
[17:43] <ds[de]> DkySven: try ls -l /usr/bin/fglrxinfo to see if it is executable, if it is, try to run with complete path (even if /usr/bin should be in your $PATH)
[17:43] <bazhang> zbrahead91, #ubuntu+1
[17:43] <rubydiamond> Grobvok: I don't have VBoxGuestAdditions.exe
[17:43] <sbox> Hello all, I'm looking for an altenative to PRGT7 for monitoring my speedtouch 585 model via SNMP for linux, does anyone have any recommendations?
[17:43] <rubydiamond> where should I get it?
[17:44] <zbrahead91> Tried it, bazhang
[17:44] <liamkmc> adresmh: try adding repo http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu
[17:44] <mandark> i m trying 2 troubleshoot my sound...i m trying 2 install the right drivers...plzz help me
[17:44] <HoNgOuRu> is that snes9x doesn`t like the path /dev/input/js0...
[17:44] <HoNgOuRu> theres an option to define the joypad path
[17:44] <mandark> i m unable 2 know which one 2 install
[17:44] <HoNgOuRu> but it just doesn`t launch the program
[17:44] <Dr_willis> HoNgOuRu,  it shouldent matter.. that  /dev/input/js0 DOES exist dosent it?
[17:44] <liamkmc> adresmh: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main
[17:44] <DkySven> ds[de]: it gives: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 11032 2008-08-09 17:55 /usr/bin/fglrxinfo
[17:44] <HoNgOuRu> yes
[17:44] <HoNgOuRu> it dows
[17:44] <kindofabuzz> HoNgOuRu: use zsnes, works great
[17:44] <HoNgOuRu> does
[17:44] <Grobvok> rubydiamond: After you start Windows in virtualbox, go to Devices and click on Install Guest Additions.
[17:44] <underandy> bazhang, would this partition be ok? 100mb /boot, 5gb / and rest on /home?
[17:44] <HoNgOuRu> also in the game "select" button is working
[17:45] <ds[de]> DkySven, and running /usr/bin/fglrxinfo still gives you a Segmentation Fault?
[17:45] <HoNgOuRu> kindo, I don`t have support for "x86_64"
[17:45] <rubydiamond> Grobvok: the problem is that clicking Install Guest Additions does not bring any window...
[17:45] <Dr_willis> HoNgOuRu,  when in doubt check the snes9x docs.. I havent usedit in ages.. there are other front ends to snes9x i recall.
[17:45] <Azzmodan> 5gb might get very small
[17:45] <Bob_Dole_> anyone know about remote desktop/
[17:45] <Bob_Dole_> ?
[17:45] <underandy> Azzmodan, how come? what things shall I get on my / ?
[17:45] <nickrud> underandy you don't need a boot (or a bigger one) , and the /  is small (8gb min) , and don't forget swap
[17:45] <HoNgOuRu> I`ll check another gui
[17:45] <DkySven> ds[de]: it gives this: display: :0.0  screen: 0
[17:45] <DkySven> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[17:45] <DkySven> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon Xpress Series
[17:45] <DkySven> OpenGL version string: 2.1.7659 Release
[17:45] <DkySven> Segmentation fault
[17:45] <FloodBot2> DkySven: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:45] <chittoor> folks any idea as to when one can expect KDE 4.1 in main  and out of ppa ?
[17:45] <Grobvok> rubydiamond: After you click on it, go to My computer in Windows and you should see it there.
[17:46] <mm2000> whats the name of the ubuntu widget system?
[17:46] <HoNgOuRu> maybe Im putting the parameters wrong
[17:46] <Dr_willis> HoNgOuRu,  very possible.
[17:46] <Azzmodan> underandy,  everything you might install?
[17:46] <HoNgOuRu> ok...
[17:46] <underandy> Azzmodan, but i will install it to my /home
[17:46] <SamuraiSword> I'm looking for some encryption tools, also a wipe tool, but was wondering if there is a gui wiping utility? And anything else you can recommend for encryption
[17:46] <Brucee> ok, i have a question about when loding ubuntu, if i can change the loading bar and loading "ubuntu" logo, if i can change that to something else?
[17:46] <underandy> And why should I use swap? have never used it before :S
[17:46] <Brucee> loading*
[17:46] <HoNgOuRu> I`ll try and then come back ... :)
[17:46] <andresmh> nickrud: i have feisty
[17:47] <Azzmodan> underandy, if you're installing things to weird places do you really need advice on partition sizes?
[17:47] <nickrud> underandy if you decide to install kubuntu 5gb won't cut it. I have a moderately full install, and use nearly 5gb already
[17:47] <rubydiamond> Grobvok: then what should I do ..
[17:47] <underandy> Azzmodan, :p
[17:47] <mandark> i m trying 2 troubleshoot my sound...i m trying 2 install the right drivers...plzz help me install the right drivers
[17:47] <underandy> nickrud, I am installing ubuntu-server
[17:47] <nickrud> andresmh put a copy of your /etc/apt/sources.list on paste.ubuntu.com
[17:47] <Grobvok> rubydiamond: Then double click on the drive and you should see the .exe.
[17:47] <nickrud> underandy then if you put your server data in /home, all would be good ;)
[17:47] <ghostlines> my firefox bookmarks and history, deluge torrents, are all gone after i built a new kernel and installed it
[17:48] <wols> mandark: what soundchip?
[17:48] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=588744&highlight=dfreer+zsnes HoNgOuRu
[17:48] <ghostlines> my default startup apps are also gone
[17:48] <ds[de]> DkySven, sounds like a corrupt/incomplete install imho
[17:48] <nickrud> underandy a separate /var makes more sense for a server anyway
[17:48] <mandark> wols; intel SigmaTel
[17:48] <ghostlines> any idean what could have caused this?
[17:48] <underandy> nickrud,  but I am installing ubuntu-server for my Desktop :;P
[17:48] <rubydiamond> okay Grobvok, thanks very much.. I am going to try that in my office on Monday..
[17:48] <mandark> wols...shld i paste the o/p of lspci -v
[17:49] <DkySven> ds[de]: I'll do the isntallation again
[17:49] <wols> mandark: snd-hda-intel. good luck
[17:49] <overlord_tm> how can i see which version of program i have installed and which is the lastest available from console?
[17:49] <nickrud> underandy then just install the desktop, and add server tasks :-P
[17:49] <Bob_Dole_> can anyone point me to the remote desktop app help page?
[17:49] <ds[de]> DkySven, good luck
[17:49] <wols> overlord_tm: apt-cache policy <package>
[17:49] <Seveas> overlord_tm, apt-cache policy packagename_here
[17:49] <underandy> nickrud, now I am lost
[17:49] <cyphase> walmis: in case you didn't know, the latest network-manager-applet failed to build in your PPA
[17:49] <underandy> nickrud, pmed you :P
[17:49] <nickrud> underandy what is your primary use case? Is this going to be server only, or a desktop that also does server tasks?
[17:49] <nickrud> underandy ok
[17:51] <Sonderblade> how do i get rid of metacitys compositing in hardy?
[17:51] <overlord_tm> so, the package requested there is not yet available in ubuntu? http://howflow.com/tricks/simply_share_of_files_over_sftp_chroot
[17:51] <chemjeff> hello
[17:52] <chemjeff> anybody up for an installation question?
[17:52] <ds[de]> just ask ;)
[17:52] <nickrud> !minimal | underandy
[17:52] <chemjeff> ok well I am trying to install ubuntu on a PC with two hard drives
[17:52] <underandy> roger
[17:52] <chemjeff> and i keep getting the busybox screen
[17:52] <wols> !info openssh-server
[17:53] <jmeyej> I'm completely new to ubuntu and I'm having problems getting my wireless card to work.  I've got an Atheron 5413 - I have tried to follow what I could understand in the forums but I've not been successful.  Any suggestions on at least where to start or how to fix this?
[17:53] <overlord_tm> wols: it is saying i need 4.8
[17:53] <overlord_tm> :S
[17:53] <dexhu> hello
[17:53] <_Schnorr0r_> hallihallo
[17:54] <dexhu> I was doing a Synaptic Install when it stopped..HOW can I continue from the point that it stopped?
[17:54] <_Schnorr0r_> dont know :D
[17:54] <dexhu> I hope someone else doews
[17:55] <_Schnorr0r_> cu all
[17:55] <dexhu> I hate to start over
[17:55] <lakis1982> i have installed kgrubeditor .... but i dont know where to find it .. it doesnt appear in kmenu  ..... do you know anything ???
[17:55] <bluekb> I realize this might not be the best place to ask, but I am not getting an answer anywhere else, nor can I find a newsgroup.  I run ubunutu/kubuntu; I just bought an Insignia NS-BTHDST bluetooth adapter (usb) and headset.  I am having trouble getting them recognized.  hciconfig shows no results, but the bluetooth daemon is definitely running.
[17:55] <qr_> lakis1982: try opening a terminal and typing kgrubeditor
[17:56] <ds[de]> lakis1982: did you try to find it via whereis kgrubeditor?
[17:56] <mandark> can anyone help the command:  cp /downloads/alsa-*     is not working
[17:56] <lakis1982> i type in command and it says unknown command
[17:56] <qr_> mandark: what do you mean not working
[17:56] <qr_> mandark: you also need to give a destination to cp
[17:57] <lakis1982> no
[17:57] <bluekb> kbluetooth/kbluetoothd appears to not be supported in [k]ubuntu 8.04, so that hasn't worked either.  Anyone have an idea, or could point me at a forum/newsgroup?
[17:57] <lakis1982> how do i do this whereis
[17:57] <qr_> mandark: as in cp /downloads/alsa-* /where/you/want/to/put/that/stuff
[17:57] <dexhu> is there anyway to resume a Synapse Install?
[17:57] <mandark> qr_; this is error:   cp: missing destination file operand after `/downloads/alsa-*'
[17:57] <mandark> Try `cp --help' for more information.
[17:57] <ds[de]> lakis1982: open up a terminal, and type 'whereis kgrubeditor' (with ')
[17:57] <ds[de]> lakis1982, sorry, I meant withOUT ' ;)
[17:57] <qr_> mandark: yeah, you're missing the destination, see above
[17:57] <bluekb> dexhu, when I had trouble with synaptic, I had to continue with the command line
[17:58] <bluekb> dexhu: I did something like sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:58] <lakis1982> it gives this           kgrubeditor:
[17:58] <dexhu> yes it was in terminal mode
[17:58] <ds[de]> lakis1982: are you sure it's properly installed?
[17:58] <chemjeff> I'm installing ubuntu on a PC that has 2 hard drives. I installed it on the second hard drive and the boot partition is the second partition of the second hard drive. The Ubuntu installer mistakenly picked the first partition as the boot partition so I had to manually edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file. But now when I boot I only get the BusyBox screen.
[17:58] <bluekb> dexhu, in my case it simply resumed where it left off.
[17:59] <lakis1982> listen .
[17:59] <chemjeff> The end of the boot log says things like "Mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: No such file or directory"
[17:59] <mandark> qr_: but in http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-hda-intel    the same thing is given
[17:59] <HoNgOuRu> I followed that guide
[17:59] <HoNgOuRu> but I`m using hardy
[17:59] <HoNgOuRu> bazhang
[17:59] <mandark> qr_; then wat is the solution
[17:59] <lakis1982> i go now in adept manager and i see that the kgrubeditor i installed it says it the kde4 version .... but i have kde 3.5.9 .... is this a problem ???
[17:59] <dexhu> I may have lost it..the system rebooted
[18:00] <chemjeff> Any thoughts on how I can fix this?
[18:00] <HoNgOuRu> I`ll try to compile it
[18:00] <Scorp_> Hey, my ubuntu is showing two different kernels in the startup menu.. Can one be removed ?? one is .16 and another is .19
[18:00] <dexhu> I juszt wonder if the was a log file that said what was installed and what didn't
[18:00] <bazhang> HoNgOuRu, yes?
[18:00] <chittoor> Scorp_: sure
[18:00] <ds[de]> lakis1982, could be, can you try installing kgrubeditor for kde 3.5?
[18:00] <HoNgOuRu> I`ll try to compile it from that guide
[18:00] <HoNgOuRu> thanks
[18:01] <Scorp_> chittoor: Is it safe to do that ?? I mean, will it affect anything ?? and also, how do i do it? ???
[18:01] <dexhu> well thanks anyway..I just wasted a hour picking PKGS I wanted to install
[18:01] <Scorp_> chittoor: I guess google should help... Found alot of text.. Wont want to bother you for this.. Thanks
[18:01] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5374774&postcount=102 HoNgOuRu no need
[18:02] <lakis1982> where should i find it
[18:02] <bazhang> HoNgOuRu, there is a repo
[18:02] <HoNgOuRu> yeah, but its not working
[18:02] <mandark> qr_; any idea
[18:02] <chittoor> Scorp_: yeah as long as the other one boots fine :D  sudo  apt-get purge linux-image-2.6.24-16
[18:02] <lakis1982> now i found it through the installed files in adept manager and it says it in usr/lib/kde4/bin
[18:02] <lakis1982> and i found it and opened
[18:02] <shishirmk> i have a pen mount touch screen its working quiet ok with the driver and callibrator provided
[18:02] <qr> mandark: yes, I told you how to fix it, cp needs a destination to copy files to, provide the desstination as the second argument
[18:03] <ds[de]> lakis1982: works?
[18:03] <shishirmk> how to caliibrate in a better so that i get the same perormance as in windows
[18:03] <Bob_Dole_> does anyone know the name of the remote desktop server so i can look it up?
[18:03] <mandark> qr; okk so i need 2 create another directory nd copy it
[18:03] <qr> Bob_Dole_: try vncserver
[18:03] <qr> mandark: you need to copy _to_ somewhere, yes.
[18:04] <Bob_Dole_> thanks
[18:04] <dewman> hi
[18:04] <fzone> hi evryone
[18:04] <chemjeff> Any thoughts on how to fix this problem? I installed Ubuntu and partitioned manually, I chose the second partition as the boot partition but the installer mistakenly picked the first partition so I had to manually edit /boot/grub/menu.list file, but now when I boot I get "No such file or directory" errors and the Busybox screen.
[18:05] <dewman> i want to copy a new skin for amsn to /usr/share/amsn/skins  ...how to do it??
[18:05] <chemjeff> er, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:05] <samssf> Anyone know of when to expect better ATI drivers for newer cards (3870/4870) on linux?
[18:05] <ds[de]> chemjeff: If I understand you correctly, you installed ubuntu on the second partition of your hdd and now you're trying to boot from the first?
[18:05] <babo_> anyone any idea why nessus crashes after i register it ?
[18:05] <mien07> any 1 hir can teach me how to install xampp here in ubuntu?
[18:05] <ds[de]> dewman: cp /path/to/skin /usr/share/amsn/skins
[18:06] <HoNgOuRu> it takes a lot :)
[18:06] <lakis1982> ok it works
[18:06] <mandark> qr; root@roshan-desktop:/usr/src/alsa# mkdir alsa1
[18:06] <mandark> root@roshan-desktop:/usr/src/alsa# cp /downloads/alsa-* alsa1
[18:06] <mandark> cp: cannot stat `/downloads/alsa-*': No such file or directory
[18:06] <mandark> root@roshan-desktop:/usr/src/alsa#
[18:06] <mandark>    this is the problem....so wer do i have 2 create this another dir
[18:06] <FloodBot2> mandark: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:06] <Bob_Dole_> qr do you know where the config file for it is?
[18:06] <samssf> I'm building a new system and had to choose between Nvidia northbridge + SLI / Intel northbridge + Crossfire
[18:06] <samssf> so choose the later but thinking it might have been a mistake
[18:06] <chemjeff> ds[de]: I installed ubuntu on the entire hard drive but I picked /dev/sdc1 as /boot, /dev/sdc2 as /, /dev/sdc3 as /home and /dev/sdc5 as swap
[18:06] <mm2000> how do I run screenlets?
[18:06] <dewman> ds[de]:  my path for skin i in desktop..but when i point to it it says no such file or dir!!!
[18:06] <fzone> hey i have a problem with compiz funsion when it enabled i cannot watch any  video files the screen is alvays flashing. i alredy tried all the video players, Can someone hlmp me please?
[18:06] <Sonderblade> why do i have a us keyboard layout in xorg and how do i change it?
[18:06] <HoNgOuRu> as there`s no .deb for the x86_64 bits Im compiling it and ther I `ll run it with ia32-libs
[18:06] <qr> Bob_Dole_: read man vnc, it tells you where the files are near the bottom
[18:07] <jmeyej> I'm completely new to ubuntu and I'm having problems getting my wireless card to work.  I've got an Atheron 5413 - I have tried to follow what I could understand in the forums but I've not been successful.  Any suggestions on at least where to start or how to fix this?
[18:07] <Bob_Dole_> thanks again
[18:07] <qr> mandark: that means you're trying to copy something that doesn't exist
[18:07] <VelcroMan> Anyone here managed to get CounterStrike 1.6 running on ubuntu? (7.04)
[18:07] <fzone> hey i have a problem with compiz funsion when it enabled i cannot watch any  video files the screen is alvays flashing. i alredy tried all the video players, Can someone hlmp me please?
[18:07] <nickrud> Sonderblade you can use system->prefs->keyboard, layout tab to change that
[18:07] <fzone> hey i have a problem with compiz funsion when it enabled i cannot watch any  video files the screen is alvays flashing. i alredy tried all the video players, Can someone hlmp me please?
[18:07] <HoNgOuRu> the issue of the joypad I found what it was...the "joymap1 " recieves bad arguments, or something
[18:07] <ds[de]> dewman: are you sure it's there? can you find it via ls from /home/yourusername/Desktop ?
[18:07] <Bob_Dole_> no man file found?
[18:08] <fzone> hey i have a problem with compiz funsion when it enabled i cannot watch any  video files the screen is alvays flashing. i alredy tried all the video players, Can someone hlmp me please?
[18:08] <mandark> qr; wer shld i create this new directory
[18:08] <fzone> hey i have a problem with compiz funsion when it enabled i cannot watch any  video files the screen is alvays flashing. i alredy tried all the video players, Can someone hlmp me please?
[18:08] <Scorp_> chittoor: 2.6.24-20 is the latest version, ryt ??
[18:08] <qr> mandark: anywhere you want, the problem you're getting now is that you're trying to copy a file that doesn't exist
[18:08] <chemjeff> ds[de]: The Ubuntu installer picked /dev/sdc2 as the boot partition but that was incorrect, so I manuall changed it to /dev/sdc1 (or rather the UUID corresponding to /dev/sdc1)
[18:08] <mm2000> how do I run screenlets?
[18:08] <fzone> hey i have a problem with compiz funsion when it enabled i cannot watch any  video files the screen is alvays flashing. i alredy tried all the video players, Can someone hlmp me please?
[18:08] <Sonderblade> nickrud: that option has no effect
[18:08] <Dazed> how do i add widgets?
[18:09] <fzone> hey i have a problem with compiz funsion when it enabled i cannot watch any  video files the screen is alvays flashing. i alredy tried all the video players, Can someone hlmp me please?
[18:09] <qr> fzone: spamming isn't going to get you an answer
[18:10] <ds[de]> chemjeff: sorry, now I'm confused
[18:10] <Bob_Dole_> 'no manual entry for vnc' ??
[18:10] <dewman> ds[de]:  yes i am sure abt it...its a folder by name msn on ma desktop..
[18:10] <jazzkutya> fzone: easiest solution is to disable compiz and live with a nice tranquil desktop :)
[18:10] <mactimes> Bob_Dole_: Try vino
[18:10] <qr> Bob_Dole_: there should be entries for vncserver and vncviewer
[18:10] <Bob_Dole_> nope, no entry for that either
[18:10] <Bob_Dole_> not for vncserver either
[18:11] <ds[de]> dewman: is the skin a single file or the whole folder?
[18:11] <qr> Bob_Dole_: are you sure they're installed?
[18:11] <chemjeff> ds[de]: On my hard drive I created 4 partitions, /dev/sdc1 as /boot, /dev/sdc2 as /, /dev/sdc3 as /home and /dev/sdc5 (logical) as swap.  The Ubuntu installer picked /dev/sdc2 as the boot partition but that was incorrect so I manually edited /boot/grub/menu.lst to change it to the UUID corresp. to /dev/sdc1.
[18:11] <Bob_Dole_> well i was using it
[18:11] <jazzkutya> fzone: otherwise you have to investigate and set xorg.conf options
[18:11] <Bob_Dole_> i clicked enable security by accident
[18:11] <dewman> ds[de]:  its a folder
[18:11] <chemjeff> ds[de]: Now, however, when I boot I get "No such file or directory" errors in the bootlog and the BusyBox screen.
[18:11] <Bob_Dole_> and now i can't re connect
[18:11] <Bob_Dole_> i can still connect with putty
[18:11] <qr> chemjeff: umm... that was a bad idea
[18:11] <Bob_Dole_> just no vnc
 i read somewhere that that there is special patch for mplayer. that fix that problem. is it true?
[18:11] <HoNgOuRu> Im taking this error
[18:11] <jazzkutya> fzone: check the manpage of your video card driver
[18:11] <HoNgOuRu> http://pastebin.com/m606e7d16
[18:11] <chemjeff> qr: What should I do instead?
[18:11] <HoNgOuRu> please check it out
[18:11] <HoNgOuRu> http://pastebin.com/m606e7d16
[18:12] <jazzkutya> fzone: i don't know
[18:12] <qr> chemjeff: you should boot to a live cd and change it back
[18:12] <ds[de]> dewman: so do cp -r /home/yourusername/Desktop/msn /usr/share/amsn/skins
[18:12] <okaratas> cp -pr /home/username/Desktop/msn /usr/share/amsn/skins
[18:12] <okaratas> ds[de] sorry :)
[18:12] <okaratas> -p
[18:12] <okaratas> please..
[18:13] <chemjeff> qr: change the /boot/grub/menu.lst file back to the UUID for /dev/sdc2? That's how it was originally and when I booted GRUB gave an Error 15 file not found error
[18:13] <bazhang> HoNgOuRu, why not just use dfreer's repo?
[18:13] <qr> chemjeff: ahh, I thought you had it working before
[18:13] <chemjeff> qr: No
[18:13] <ds[de]> okaratas, you're right :o)
[18:13] <HoNgOuRu> it says error 302
[18:13] <HoNgOuRu> found
[18:14] <Bob_Dole_> is there any way to check what i have installed?
[18:14] <mandark> qr; can u help me regarding the steps in http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-hda-intel
[18:14] <HoNgOuRu> dont know whats that
[18:14] <Dj_> How do I login to root?
[18:14] <HoNgOuRu> su root
[18:14] <bazhang> HoNgOuRu, how did you add the repo
[18:14] <qr> mandark: no, I don't know anything about alsa
[18:14] <Dj_> like the user though
[18:14] <wols> Bob_Dole_: dpkg -l | grep -i vnc
[18:14] <bravekn1ght> @Dj: u first have to enable root
[18:14] <HoNgOuRu> with tee
[18:14] <bazhang> Dj_, dont login as root
[18:14] <mandark> qr thanq
[18:14] <HoNgOuRu> as the guide says
[18:14] <uxe1> hay is ther a simple way to solve removing vista? i have vista and the mbr   on one hd and ubuntu on the other , i want to remove vista while not screwing up my ubuntu,
[18:14] <qr> chemjeff: I see, in that case I don't know how to fix it, sorry.
[18:14] <Dj_> bravekn1ght, How?
[18:14] <wols> bravekn1ght: which we donb't tell how to do in here
 not it's not the video card problem because if the compiz disabled video output in vlc set to x11. evrything is working fine but the video quality is horrible.
[18:15] <bravekn1ght> Dj: sudo passwd root
[18:15] <bravekn1ght> Dj: then u just hv to su to be root
[18:15] <qr> uxe1: are you using the vista bootloader or grub?
[18:15] <bazhang> bravekn1ght, bad advice here
[18:15] <wols> uxe1: reinstall grub on the boot cd
[18:15] <Bob_Dole_> vino is what's installed so why won't it find the manual for it?
[18:15] <Dj_> bravekn1ght, I have this script that needs root but when I try to 'read' it it says it can't read the coding or whatever
[18:15] <uxe1> grub, how would i reinstall it,
[18:15] <wols> Bob_Dole_: dpkg -L <package> | grep man
[18:16] <bravekn1ght> @all: sorry for giving bad advice :(
[18:16] <drpepperONE>  Hi all
[18:16] <drpepperONE>  I've a question
[18:16] <drpepperONE>  about gdb compiling
[18:16] <drpepperONE>  I've the following error:
[18:16] <drpepperONE> configure: error: no termcap library found
[18:16] <drpepperONE>  make[1]: *** [configure-gdb] Error 1
[18:16] <FloodBot2> drpepperONE: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:16] <drpepperONE>  make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/gdb-6.8'
[18:16] <qr> uxe1: if you're using grub then removing vista won't hurt anything (except the grub option to boot vista will stop working obviously)
[18:16] <wols> uxe1: grub-install but you must make sure to install it to the proper MBR. how do you know the vista disk has a vista MBR? how do you boot ubuntu?
[18:16] <Bob_Dole_> wols what was that meant to do?
[18:16] <Bob_Dole_> it didn't do anything obvious
[18:16] <Bob_Dole_> and there's no manual there still
[18:17] <tim_> how do i install the flachplayer with firefox and ubuntu 8.04 x64 nothing was found with apt-get install libflash-nonfree
[18:17] <mandark> can anyone help me regarding sound
[18:17] <wols> Bob_Dole_: man dpkg
[18:17] <dewman> ds[de]:  it wrked...thanx a lot!!!
[18:17] <underandy> r
[18:17] <chihau> #kernel
[18:17] <qr> drpepperONE: why are you compiling grub manually?
[18:17] <wols> !sound | mandark
[18:17] <Mohammad[B]> Hi all
[18:17] <ds[de]> dewman: :o)
[18:17] <underandy> rr
[18:17] <atha> hello, will
[18:17] <wols> !flash | tim_
[18:17] <mandark> wols:  plzz help me regarding the steps in http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-hda-intel
[18:17] <pyrite1978> qr:  are you sure?  i could be wrong, but i thought GRUB would freak out if it could not find one of the options, and requre a grub "fix"
[18:18] <drpepperONE> I'm cross compile for mips
[18:18] <wols> mandark: use the ubuntu docs
[18:18] <atha> hello, does Gkismet run in xubuntu?
[18:18] <Mohammad[B]> i need a software for give satellite channels with DVB card and view channels .... please help me please :-s
[18:18] <wols> mandark: and if you want help, ask specific questions which are answerable
[18:18] <okaratas> atha; apt-get install gkismet ?
[18:18] <qr> pyrite1978: why would it freak out? as long as you don't actually try to USE the option it should be fine. Worst case senerio you remove the entry from menu.list and everyhting is good.
[18:18] <atha> ill try
[18:18] <bazhang> Mohammad[B], check packages.ubuntu.com
[18:18] <okaratas> or alt+f2 gkismet enter atha
[18:19] <atha> because i cant find it in synaptic
[18:19] <okaratas> hmm
[18:19] <drpepperONE> seatching in google it speaks about libncurses5-dev but I installed
[18:19] <Brucee> hi, i opened a folder in VLC player, and its playing the music, i closed it and still plays music, i want it to stop
[18:19] <underandy> r
[18:19] <Brucee> in ubuntu hardy
[18:19] <uxe1> well i think im just going to try to reformat the drive, thanx yall
[18:19] <okaratas> atha hmm gkismet is no packets deb...
[18:19] <okaratas> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[18:19] <pyrite1978> qr: Im not sure,,  ijust seem to recall one time removing a linux install, and grub would not let me load my remaining vista,  i had to use vista recovery disk to remove grub
[18:19] <wols> drpepperONE: check the logs
[18:20] <zapATIsta> brucee, you might have to restart.
[18:20] <wols> pyrite1978: that's normal if you remove grub'S state2 files
[18:20] <mandark> wols: this is error as per the steps in http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-hda-intel   cp /downloads/alsa-* alsa
[18:20] <mandark> cp: cannot stat `/downloads/alsa-*': No such file or directory
[18:20] <tim_> i know there is a package like libflash-nonfree or only alittle different
[18:20] <okaratas> atha akismet?
[18:20] <Brucee> zapATIsta restart the puter?
[18:20] <qr> pyrite1978: yes, that is the case... however that is not the senerio we were talking about. you removed linux with grub as the bootloader, we were talking about removing windows when grub is the bootloader.
[18:20] <Bodsda> Bruce, in a terminal type 'killall vlc'
[18:20] <bazhang> zapATIsta, no need for that ; Brucee is it on the tray now?
[18:20] <atha> gnome interface for kismet
[18:20] <wols> mandark: where did you download the alsa* files to? to what directory?
[18:20] <Munchkinguy> How do I install all the packages from a directory using dpkg?
[18:20] <zapATIsta> try this first: system/admin/system monitor
[18:20] <wols> Munchkinguy: dpkg -i *
[18:20] <zapATIsta> look around for vlc or vlan and try shutting those down.
[18:20] <underandy> When partitionating ubuntu, shall I set any mount options for my partitions+
[18:21] <pyrite1978> wols: Ah,  gotcha :)   i wasnt tryin to be argumentative :)   was just clarifying,   thanks :)
[18:21] <kane77> is it safe to remove ~/.thumbnails ?
[18:21] <wols> underandy: no
[18:21] <Brucee> ty Bodsda
[18:21] <underandy> wols ok
[18:21] <qr> underandy: if you don't know then the defaults should be fine
[18:21] <Munchkinguy> wols, thanks
[18:21] <Bodsda> no probs Brucee
[18:21] <underandy> qr ok :)
[18:22] <Gin> hi, can some one write me a shell script to find the eth nummer?
[18:22] <zapATIsta> ah, bobsda with the quickest/easiest. :P
[18:22] <zapATIsta> :)
[18:22] <sidewalk> what bittorrent clients do you guys recommend?
[18:22] <Bodsda> Gin, yes, but im on the phone atm
[18:22] <qr> sidewalk: rtorrent
[18:22] <Dazed> can i make each workspace have its own desktop layout? mine all share the same icons
[18:22] <mandark> wols;so now how do i rectify...did this then    root@roshan-desktop:/usr/src/alsa# mkdir alsa1
[18:22] <mandark> root@roshan-desktop:/usr/src/alsa# cp /downloads/alsa-* alsa1
[18:22] <mandark> cp: cannot stat `/downloads/alsa-*': No such file or directory
[18:22] <crdlb> Dazed: no, and that's not likely to ever be supported with gnome at least
[18:23] <mactimes> Gin: To find you what?
[18:23] <Dazed> thats okay, was just curious
[18:23] <atha> need some help, i justa installed kismet, but i want to install gkismet, but terminal says another application is using the directory, unable to lock it....
[18:23] <sidewalk> what bittorrent clients (gui)  guys recommend?
[18:23] <wols> mandark: find out where you downloaded the files you want to copy. where they are on disk. I cannot know that. only you can since you downloaded them
[18:23] <Gin> mactimes: my eth nummer increase each time it boots :(
[18:23] <phr0z1> Dazed, I dont think thats possible.
[18:23] <sidewalk> what bittorrent clients (gui) do you guys recommend? :-)
[18:23] <Dazed> where do i find the widgets or screenlets or whatever to add to the desktop?
[18:23] <qr> atha: do you have synaptic open? You can't have two package managers running at the same time.
[18:23] <atha> duh
[18:23] <qr> sidewalk: ktorrent
[18:23] <atha> lol
[18:23] <mandark> wols; i dint download, i directly installed them
[18:24] <kane77> !screenlets
[18:24] <atha> qr thx
[18:24] <Gin> mactimes: and so I have to edit my config files manually before I connect to the internet
[18:24] <wols> mandark: mandark that's wrong. you did not
[18:24] <mandark> wols; then i shall download
[18:24]  * zapATIsta found out both my graphics cards aren't sophisticated enough to run beryl well. :(
[18:24] <Gin> Bodsda: if you can help me when you're done, I'll appreciate it :)
[18:24] <atha> ok noe it says it cant find gkismet package...
[18:24] <wols> mandark: alsa-project.org has only source files. you cannot "directly install" source files. nonsensical
[18:24] <bazhang> zapATIsta, there is no beryl
[18:24] <liamkmc> vncserver
[18:25] <Bodsda> Gin, i think ive misunderstood you, whats an eth nummer?
[18:25] <LIGHTspeed> Hello. :)
[18:25] <sidewalk> !bittorrent
[18:25] <bazhang> zapATIsta, it is compiz-fusion now
[18:25] <wols> atha: someone told you there is no gkismet in ubuntu
[18:25] <Gin> Bodsda: the nummer in ethX
[18:25] <bazhang> Bodsda, his eth0 etc
[18:25] <Gin> where X is a nummer
[18:25] <atha> no
[18:25] <zapATIsta> I call it the same thing because of fork/unfork/fork. ;)
[18:25] <Gin> number
[18:25] <ds[de]> Gin: you mean number?
[18:25] <Gin> ^^
[18:25] <liamkmc> just use transmission
[18:25] <Bodsda> Gin, ok, so what do you want?
[18:25] <Sonderblade> why does my Applications menu have an entry for wine when wine is not installed?
[18:25] <Bodsda> cheers bazhang ;~)
[18:25] <bazhang> Bodsda, :)
[18:26] <Gin> Bodsda: a shell script to tell me that number or tell me the card name  like "eth2"
[18:26] <Bodsda> Sonderblade, because at some point it was installed
[18:26] <mactimes> Gin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=709646  I think this may be useful.
[18:26] <phr0z1> Gin wants the number from the end of the device his network is using.
[18:26] <Bodsda> Gin, ok 1 sec
[18:26] <Sonderblade> Bodsda: true, at some point it was also uninstalled
[18:26] <lukehasnoname> Is there a key combination to move in between tabs in a Firefox window?
[18:26] <LIGHTspeed> I've got an Ubuntu 8.04 computer here (My grandmother's) which is doing extremely strange things, and I can't figure out what to do. Is this the correct place to ask questions?
[18:26] <Bodsda> Gin, ifconfig | grep eth
[18:27] <Bodsda> Sonderblade, see if you have a ~/.wine  folder
[18:27] <qr> lukehasnoname: ctrl+tab moves forwards and ctrl+shift+tab moves backwards
[18:27] <Bodsda> LIGHTspeed, yes it is, but we need to know the problems first
[18:27] <wols> LIGHTspeed: yes
[18:27] <Sonderblade> Bodsda: no
[18:27] <Gin> Bodsda: I can't use that in a shell script :\
[18:27] <Bodsda> Sonderblade, you want this entry removed?
[18:28] <wols> Gin: dunno about a script but ifconfig -a tells you. the /etc/udev/rules.d/ files do so too
[18:28] <Bodsda> Gin, why not?
[18:28] <dcoy55b> \quit
[18:28] <LIGHTspeed> Righto. For no reason, it has switched from 1280x1024 to 800x600 resolution. Nothing I've tried has changed it back, and the logs say something about hsync being wrong.
[18:28] <liamkmc> why does firefox quit when watching youtube or any other video services
[18:28] <wols> LIGHTspeed: pastebin the Xorg.0.log and your xorg.conf
[18:28] <Bodsda> LIGHTspeed, make and model of monitor?
[18:29] <Bodsda> Gin, what/who/why is thi script needed?
[18:29] <wols> LIGHTspeed: start firefox from a terminal and look at the messages in the terminal
[18:29] <LIGHTspeed> Acer plug 'n' play LCD, I'll check for the model number.
[18:29] <PAulo_> amsn
[18:29] <Sonderblade> Bodsda: it was the directory in ~/.local/share/applications/wine, i think aptitude purge should have removed that
[18:29] <PAulo_> alguma versao
[18:29] <Bodsda> Sonderblade, yes, purge should have, but you can right click and edit the menus to remove the wine entry
[18:29] <Seveas> Sonderblade, aptitude never touchrs things in your homedir
[18:29] <underandy> I am install ubuntu from the minimal cd, now I am on the part "software selection", what to choose there?
[18:30] <MrNaz> !grub
[18:30] <Bodsda> Seveas, purge removes user file in your home dir doesnt it?
[18:30] <Gin> wols:  Bodsda, this is what I am trying to do.  I connect to the net using ppp, but my net provider register my mac addres. Problem: every reboot my machine  the eth number increase and the mac addres changes.  so a solution would be:  find the new eth number. then use that new ethernet name and put it in the ppp config file, then change the mac address and then try to connect.
[18:30] <Seveas> Bodsda, no
[18:30] <wols> underandy: whatever you want. you can always install more later
[18:30] <qr> underandy: whatever softwhere you want to have (really, this is the only workable answer that can be given to that question)
[18:30] <liamkmc> you can just get grub back with the live disc
[18:30] <wols> Gin: the solution is make udev behave instead
[18:30] <Bodsda> Gin, your mac address cant change, its the address of the physical machine
[18:30] <Sonderblade> Seveas: is there no apt-command that does that?
[18:30] <Gin> Bodsda: yes it can
[18:31] <Bodsda> it shouldnt
[18:31] <PAulo_> amsn downloas now
[18:31] <Seveas> Bodsda, one can tell the driver to use a different macaddress
[18:31] <Seveas> Sonderblade, no
[18:31] <Gin> Bodsda: I have read some articles, and they say it's the driver fault
[18:31] <underandy> qr, if I choose Ubuntu-desktop, just the programs for gnome downloads?
[18:31] <wols> Gin: 19:31 <dpkg> If your network card keeps changing its name each time (eth0, then eth1, then eth2, etc) and you are using the forcedeth driver, then edit /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules and replace the MAC address with "00:00:6c:*".
[18:31] <Bodsda> Gin, so fix the problem, instead of writing scripts,.,.but what do you need to know the eth# for?
[18:31] <devius> oh, humans out there, i need help
[18:31] <devius>   my graphics card accelerator needs an updated driver
[18:31] <qr> underandy: the whole ubuntu desktop suite of programs comes with that package
[18:32] <MrNaz> Bodsda there's nothing stopping your driver from lying about its MAC address... most NIC drivers these days allow you to just specify what MAC address it'll tell the network it has
[18:32] <bazhang> devius, which card
[18:32] <wols> devius: what videocard or chip
[18:32] <devius> intel
[18:32] <devius> 965M
[18:32] <Bodsda> MrNaz, interesting, cheers
[18:32] <wols> devius: more info than only maker
[18:32] <wols> devius: 965 is supported out of the box
[18:32] <mercutio22> Hi, I am trying to find out why my gnome login time is so long. I suspect compiz is being loaded and replaced more than once. I wonder whether I should have compiz listed in my "gnome sessions" thing
[18:32] <Bodsda> LIGHTspeed, did you find the model number?
[18:33] <devius> ya but in cedega the card fails the grapphics acceleration
[18:33] <LIGHTspeed> The model number is "Acer AL1716", I believe.
[18:33] <devius> test
[18:33] <qr> mercutio22: have you tried taking it out and seeing what happens?
[18:33] <LIGHTspeed> It was working fine up until today. No setting's have been changed or anything.
[18:33] <underandy> qr, is there a way of just installing gnome?
[18:33] <bazhang> devius, ask cedega for support then
[18:33] <LIGHTspeed> *settings.
[18:33] <mactimes> Bodsda: Even Windows can do that from NIC configuration....
[18:34] <sisto> hi! quick question... is there an app in gnome to see exif info on a pic???
[18:34] <wols> devius: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[18:34] <Bodsda> LIGHTspeed, can you pastebin the   /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file please
[18:34] <mercutio22> qr: if compiz is disabled, the login time is shortened
[18:34] <LIGHTspeed> Sure. One moment.
[18:34] <wols> LIGHTspeed: I asked you for the logs and xorg.conf long ago
[18:34] <devius> but the card affects other issuesd, like moving  windows around the desktop, it doesent move properly it cuts around
[18:34] <ompaul> sisto, eog or fspot
[18:35] <devius> wols just a second
[18:35] <mandark> wols; wer shall i keep the downloaded file now
[18:35] <devius> wols i get:    direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[18:35] <devius> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[18:35] <LIGHTspeed> This is what it says in the Xorg:
[18:35] <LIGHTspeed> Section "Device"
[18:35] <LIGHTspeed> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[18:35] <LIGHTspeed> EndSection
[18:35] <LIGHTspeed> Section "Monitor"
[18:35] <LIGHTspeed> 	Identifier	"Configured Monitor"
[18:35] <FloodBot2> LIGHTspeed: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:35] <LIGHTspeed> EndSection
[18:36] <Bodsda> LIGHTspeed, use this site   paste.ubuntu.com
[18:36] <bazhang> LIGHTspeed, not here; paste.ubuntu.com
[18:36] <mactimes> Boom, bang, pow!
[18:36] <wols> LIGHTspeed: and paste the WHOLE xorg.conf. not just an excerpt. and don't forget the Xorg.0.log either
[18:36] <scribawf> On "Fresh" install 8.04 mistakenly screwed up p/w and can't get to GUI - is there a workaround on this?
[18:36] <mandark> wols; wer shall i keep the downloaded file now
[18:36] <mandark> wols; wer shall i keep the downloaded file now
[18:36] <LIGHTspeed> Sorry. Newb to IRC, Ubuntu, Linux, and pretty much everything. :)
[18:36] <Bodsda> !paste | LIGHTspeed
[18:36] <wols> mandark: wherever you want
[18:37] <devius> the graphics card issue??
[18:37] <devius> an answer pls
[18:37] <bazhang> devius, this is cedega, correct?
[18:37] <Bodsda> devius, then be patient
[18:37] <sisto> ompaul: thx
[18:37] <devius> patient??
[18:38] <Bodsda> LIGHTspeed, you need to give me the url after you have pastebined the file
[18:38] <bazhang> devius, answer my question please
[18:38] <devius> ya cedega
[18:38] <bazhang> devius, then that is payware; go to their support forums
[18:38] <Bodsda> wols, what are you hoping to find in the xorg log?
[18:39] <Bodsda> lol, thats harsh bazhang ;~)
[18:39] <wols> Bodsda: error messages I can trust
[18:39] <bazhang> Bodsda, not at all.
[18:39] <Bodsda> wols, oh, ok cheers,.,.;~)
[18:39] <wols> devius: I asked you to run a command long ago? did you do it?
[18:39] <devius> guys the problem is not only with cedega it affects my desktop rendering quality
[18:39] <Bodsda> bazhang, ive paid for that bloody thing, its rubbish
[18:39] <wols> devius: then do what I told you
[18:39] <devius> ya and the output is :   direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[18:39] <devius> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[18:39] <devius> ??
[18:39] <Sonderblade> what does binfmt-support do? is it useful?
[18:40] <LIGHTspeed> D'you need the entire log, too? (Long file)
[18:40] <deserteagle> hello all
[18:40] <wols> devius: what videocard? and what does LIBGL_VERBOSE=yes glxinfo | less    say?
[18:40] <bazhang> Sonderblade, what does packages.ubuntu.com or synaptic say about it
[18:40] <wols> devius: pastebin the result
[18:40] <Bodsda> LIGHTspeed, i can make this easier, can i give you a command, it installs a small program that auto pastebins things?
[18:40] <wols> LIGHTspeed: yes. entire for both
[18:40] <deserteagle> i have a GSA-4166B DVD burner but it's not reading DVD's anymore, only CD's any clue?
[18:40] <Sonderblade> bazhang: they all say it is useless dead weight
[18:40] <Bodsda> wols, whats the file path of that log?
[18:40] <Bodsda> xorg
[18:40] <underandy> If I installed ubuntu-desktop, and just wanted gnome-core, can i just remove ubuntu-desktop and install gnome-core after?
[18:41] <LIGHTspeed> Ok, here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/35910/
[18:41] <wols> Bodsda: /var/log
[18:41] <wype> Is there a specific channel for a wine question?
[18:41] <devius> sorry whats paste bin the result, i am still new in linux mind you
[18:41] <Bodsda> wype, #winehq
[18:41] <wype> Thanks sir
[18:41] <mactimes> devius: http://www.pastebin.ca
[18:41] <wols> LIGHTspeed: what video chip is it?
[18:41] <BigBuddha> hey guys, for some reason when i am logged into ubuntu now, my fans stay on. They will not turm off, but in vista they run fine. also, my pc will freeze, no response until i manually shut it down.
[18:42] <mandark> wols; i have downloaded...which directory shld i place it in
[18:42] <mactimes> devius: Paste the outcome of the command there, submit and post only the link you get here.
[18:42] <bazhang> Bodsda, does wols know that he is using cedega?
[18:42] <devius> ok
[18:42] <wols> mandark: I already told you
[18:42] <LIGHTspeed> It's an SiS Mirage, but it's actually been "blown out" since about a month before we switched to Linux. (We were on Vista before)
[18:42] <Bodsda> bazhang, who lightspeed? or devius?
[18:42] <bazhang> Bodsda, devius
[18:43] <mandark> wols; but then the command is not working then
[18:43] <wols> bazhang: I do. but his problem is glxinfo being  in indirect GLX mode. ie. no hardware 3D for X
[18:43] <Bodsda> LIGHTspeed, run this command            gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:43] <Bodsda> bazhang, i dont think so
[18:43] <bazhang> okay wols just wanted to be sure
[18:43] <Bodsda> oh
[18:43] <underandy> If I installed ubuntu-desktop, and just wanted gnome-core, can i just remove ubuntu-desktop and install gnome-core after?
[18:43] <bazhang> underandy, why do you want to do that
[18:43] <wols> bazhang: I don't get a rat's behind about his cedega. but we are here to help him get 3D acceleration if possible in ubuntu
[18:43] <LIGHTspeed> Done
[18:43] <wols> *care
[18:44] <xnt> hi i have an ibm R32 and ive done some research on running linux on it (because i run linux on all my desktops) and i run the livecd for 8.04 on it and everything works fine except the fan, when i check thinkpad acpi is says Fan Disabled and thinkwiki says to add thibkpad-acpi FAncontrol=1 in /etc/options and reboot but im running of a live cd and i can't run my laptop for too long without a fan, so i need a way to manually start 
[18:44] <underandy> bazhang bcause I only wanted gnome-core
[18:44] <Bodsda> LIGHTspeed, ok, thats your xorg file in a text editor yes?
[18:44] <Bodsda> underandy, yes you could
[18:44] <underandy> ok
[18:44] <Bodsda> underandy, but there may be unforseen affects
[18:44] <LIGHTspeed> Yeah. As root.
[18:44] <lukehasnoname> ﻿ Is there a key combination to move in between tabs in a Firefox window?
[18:44] <underandy> Bodsda like what? :-S
[18:44] <Bodsda> LIGHTspeed, ok cool, go down to the "Monitor" section
[18:45] <Bodsda> underandy, *shrugs*
[18:45] <qr_> xnt: there should be a file in proc that you can use to turn on your fan, I've used it before to solve a similar problem. I don't remember what it's called though, you'll have to look around on google for it.
[18:45] <mactimes> lukehasnoname: Someone has already answered that to you.
[18:45] <xnt> btw i am a very advanced linux user, so i can write shell scripts, and compile kernels etc...
[18:45] <permanewb> Is there a modeline database somewhere, or do you know where I can find modelines for my "Viewsonic 15" ancient monitor? I need to switch to this monitor while moving to a new apartment.
[18:45] <BigBuddha> hey guys, for some reason when i am logged into ubuntu now, my fans stay on. They will not turm off, but in vista they run fine. also, my pc will freeze, no response until i manually shut it down.
[18:46] <xnt> oh and i tried to use sudo echo level 7 > /pro/acpi/ibm/fan and it said permission denied
[18:46] <mactimes> lukehasnoname: Anyways:  CTRL+<PGUP>/<PGDN>
[18:46] <Bodsda> LIGHTspeed, add these two on seperate lines between 'section Monitor' and 'End Section                    HorizSync    31-81              VertRefresh    56-75
[18:46] <Brucee> is there ssh access in ubuntu hardy ?
[18:46] <lukehasnoname> mactimes: Sorry, thanks, My IRC window didn't show someone responded.
[18:46] <Bodsda> yes
[18:46] <Brucee> i can't seem to access it
[18:46] <qr_> xnt: instead of > file use | sudo tee file >/dev/null
[18:46] <mactimes> lukehasnoname: You're welcome.
[18:46] <Brucee> is there something i need to turn on?
[18:46] <Brucee> for ssh access
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[18:46] <devius> wols: http://www.pastebin.ca/1097111
[18:46] <xnt>  sudo echo level 7 > /pro/acpi/ibm/fan and it said permission denied
[18:47] <devius> wols: sorry for takin long
[18:47] <mactimes> Brucee: Do you want to be able to access your computer using SSH, is that what you want?
[18:47] <DrunkMuppet> My microphone keeps playing through my speakers... but if I mute the microphone it mutes all sound. And if I turn the sound back up it turns the mic up.
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Brucee: have you installed openssh-server
[18:47] <xnt> @qr_ what do you mean, please clarfiy
[18:47] <ompaul> Brucee, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[18:47] <wols> devius: that's not what I asked for
[18:47] <qr_> xnt: yes, because shell redirection ( > ) has your shell try to do the write, which is run as your user and does not have write access in proc, running tee with sudo means that a program running as root does the writing, and root _does_ have permission to write to proc
[18:48] <devius> wols: thats the cmd you gave me
[18:48] <LIGHTspeed> Done. Shall I save and restart X, or?
[18:48] <mactimes> Brucee: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[18:48] <wols> devius: no I did not
[18:48] <Brucee> ok, ty all
[18:48] <Bodsda> LIGHTspeed, save and pastebin the file for me first
[18:48] <qr_> xnt:  so try echo level 7 | sudo tee /pro/acpi/ibm/fan > /dev/null
[18:48] <wols> devius: it was thew first command, but I gave you another after wards. and asked a question too. neither is answered
[18:49] <wweasel> !sed
[18:49] <Brucee> can i install ubuntu desktop, then install ubuntu server on top of that?
[18:49] <devius>     wols: ok can you as again, sry
[18:49] <wols> Bodsda: do you know what videocard he uses so he won't use VESA anymore?
[18:49] <PineHead> Ok, so i installed ubuntu and i assume ssh is installed by default?  by i can't seem to ssh to thebox.
[18:49] <xnt> ok but im on my R32 running window, and its backing up my files, so once its done ill boot intothe livecd
[18:49] <PineHead> I only assume its a routing issue but i have that box dmzed.
[18:49] <PineHead> suggestions?
[18:49] <wols> 19:40 < wols> devius: what videocard? and what does LIBGL_VERBOSE=yes glxinfo | less    say?
[18:49] <Kartagis> hoşçakalın / bye
[18:49] <LIGHTspeed> http://paste.ubuntu.com/35914/
[18:49] <qr_> PineHead: the ssh server is not installed by default
[18:49] <BiosElement> Brucee, You can run both just fine. Everything is modeler.
[18:49] <Bodsda> wols, no, im working on sync and refresh ranges atm, il do drivers next
[18:49] <PineHead> OK, i did a sudo apt-get install ssh
[18:50] <PineHead> but i can't do that regular port either
[18:50] <Moojkm> I need /dev/uinput do I need to re-compile my kernel?
[18:50] <_ar> Brucee: What do you mean?
[18:50] <wols> Bodsda: ideally oyu'd do the drivre first since that usually solves the refresh
[18:50] <devius> wols: the video card is intel X3100 for laptop
[18:50] <qr_> PineHead: you need openssh-servder
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> PineHead: do you want the ssh server?
[18:50] <qr_> PineHead: openssh-server, sorry
[18:50] <xnt> btw isn't it possiable for me to install my R32's HDD on my pc and install ubuntu and add the fan command in init.d?
[18:50] <Bodsda> LIGHTspeed, open up yor xorg file again as root, and line up the numbers underneath 'Configured Monitor'
[18:50] <liamkmc> does anyone know an app like windows movie maker preferably easy to use?
[18:50] <wols> devius: now the paste as well
[18:50] <Bodsda> wols, il bear that in mind, thanks
[18:50] <wols> liamkmc: kino perhaps (kde dependent)
[18:51] <BiosElement> Brucee, You can install all the packages you would need to run a server after installing ubuntu desktop.
[18:51] <_ar> Brucee: you can install any of the server software on the desktop... the only thing special about "server" is some default configuration
[18:51] <liamkmc> wols, im using gnome
[18:51] <PineHead> ok how do i find the server package.
[18:51] <qr_> _ar: and a completely different kernel.
[18:51] <liamkmc> wols, sorry im new to this
[18:51] <td123> !ssh | PineHead
[18:51] <wols> xnt: yes but you need an adapter. laptop hdds often have different connectors from desktop hdds
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> liamkmc: http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUK248&=&q=ubuntu+video+editting&btnG=Google+Search
[18:51] <Gin> that trick fixed the problem :-)
[18:51] <permanewb> In this line: "ViewSonic, 15,   15", 30-64kHz, 50-90Hz, 0.27mm", what do you suppose the last number in mm is?
[18:51] <devius> wols: and when i type your command i get http://www.pastebin.ca/1097111
[18:51] <_ar> qr_: i didn't know that... but for brucee I suspect that's not what he's after
[18:51] <Bodsda> LIGHTspeed, it should look like this -- http://pastebin.com/f2ad4916f
[18:51] <devius> wols: trust me thats what i get
[18:51] <PineHead> ubottu i need the server though.
[18:51] <wols> permanewb: dot pitch. size of each pixel
[18:51] <xnt> yea i have a laptop ide to usb adapter
[18:52] <permanewb> wols thanks
[18:52] <PineHead> ubottu probably more intelligent thatn me.
[18:52] <wols> PineHead: you've been told repeatedly. install openssh-server
[18:52] <wols> PineHead: good guess
[18:52] <LIGHTspeed> Yep, done.
[18:52] <Bodsda> LIGHTspeed, can you pastebin again plz, i just want to be sure
[18:52] <PineHead> says i already got i installed.
[18:52] <wols> devius: you don't. pastebing all of it, including the stuff you typea nd the prompt please
[18:52] <Gin> how to change the resolution of the startup screen , the one with the startup bar. ?
[18:53] <wols> PineHead: sudo netstat -anp | grep 22
[18:53] <xnt> so if i install ubuntu on my pc will it work on my R32 without any extra commands
[18:53] <wols> PineHead: pastebin the restuls
[18:53] <wols> *results
[18:53] <devius> ok, then
[18:53] <devius> wols: ok then
[18:53] <wols> xnt: yes
[18:53] <Bodsda> xnt, maybe
[18:53] <xnt> ok
[18:53] <PineHead> none of them are ssh.
[18:53] <wols> PineHead: do what I told you.
[18:53] <PineHead> did.
[18:53] <PineHead> aaa ok
[18:53] <xnt> now im waiting for my backup to finish
[18:53] <LIGHTspeed> http://paste.ubuntu.com/35918/
[18:53] <Bodsda> !who | PineHead
[18:53] <ompaul> PineHead, you were asked to paste it
[18:54] <PineHead> i run server, so not sure how to get the results in the browser
[18:54] <Bodsda> LIGHTspeed, cool that looks good, save and restart x then come bacj here
[18:54] <PineHead> ompaul: I know, but i am running the server edition on my box.  How do i paste that into a browser ...
[18:54] <ompaul> PineHead, one last time wols asked you:  sudo netstat -anp | grep 22
[18:54] <LIGHTspeed> Righto. Be right back.
[18:54] <devius> wols: have you lost hope
[18:54] <wols> PineHead: w3m is a great browser. or you can install pastebinit
[18:54] <PineHead> ompaul: omg dude i did that.  I"m trying to determine how to paste the results.
[18:54] <xnt> brb
[18:54] <wols> devius: yes I have lost hope you doing what you are told. so I don't care about your problem. come back if you can do it
[18:55] <ompaul> PineHead, are you looking at the server from another box?
[18:55] <PineHead> for one last time.
[18:55] <Brucee> thank you ommplaul mactimes and Bodsda
[18:55] <_ar> PineHead: w3m is a console browser
[18:55] <PineHead> its another box i have.  and i just installed server on it.
[18:55] <wols> PineHead: I just told you. two ways to do it even
[18:55] <Brucee> that worked
[18:55] <Bodsda> Brucee, welcome
[18:55] <ompaul> !nickspam | XNT|Away
[18:55] <PineHead> cool i'll try it
[18:55] <mactimes> Brucee: |(^_^)|
[18:55] <bizinichi> hi
[18:55] <Bodsda> hey LIGHTspeed
[18:55] <LIGHTspeed> Done. (No change yet, unfortunately)
[18:56] <Bodsda> LIGHTspeed, ok, what graphics card have u got?
[18:56] <PineHead> ompaul: not sure how to copy and paste a what a display says either.  NOt windows ya know :)
[18:56] <underandy> What's the command for removing whole ubuntu-desktop?
[18:56] <Dj_> ^-^
[18:56] <bizinichi> not sure
[18:56] <ompaul> PineHead, are you logged on a console?
[18:56] <mactimes> underandy: sudo tasksel
[18:56] <PineHead> yes
[18:56] <wols> underandy: 19:56 <dpkg> from memory, remove gnome is aptitude remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common
[18:56] <mactimes> underandy: Uncheck the "ubuntu-desktop" box and click Ok
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> !purekde | underandy
[18:56] <LIGHTspeed> It's a SiS Mirage, but hasn't been working since a month after we got this computer. Both the Video card and SiS Ethernet card died.
[18:56] <devius> wols: hey i researched long enough on this issue, and i know whats to be don but im only stuck in one of its stages, so if you will be kind enough to provide help, then thank you, if not then BYE...
[18:56] <Bodsda> wols, if no driver is specified in xorg.conf is vesa used?
[18:56] <PineHead> ompaul: yes, trying to install ssh so i can ssh to it instead
[18:56] <wols> devius: BYE
[18:57] <ompaul> PineHead, right so answer this question does one of the lines look like this:  tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN     5048/sshd
[18:57] <underandy> mactimes thanks
[18:57] <Bodsda> LIGHTspeed, can you pastebin the output of              lspci
[18:57] <devius> wols: useless
[18:57] <wols> PineHead: dpkg -l | grep ssh
[18:57] <PineHead> ompaul: no doesn't show sshd
[18:57] <mactimes> underandy: You're welcome.
[18:57] <Devlon> hello
[18:57] <callekula> Where can I see my local IP in Ubuntu?
[18:58] <devius> ok any one out there except wols can help me with a graphics accelerator card problem
[18:58] <Devlon> [Errno 5] Input/output error any answers to that on install yet?
[18:58] <Devlon> ipconfig
[18:58] <ompaul> callekula, ifconfig
[18:58] <Devlon> ifconfig***
[18:58] <LIGHTspeed> http://paste.ubuntu.com/35921/
[18:58] <callekula> thanks
[18:58] <Bodsda> devius, wols can help you, but only if you do 'exactly'# what he says
[18:59] <mm2000> Hi there. My sound is very quiet. Ideas what I can do?
[18:59] <Bodsda> LIGHTspeed, open xorg.conf again   and under the section "device" put                 Driver    "vesa"
[18:59] <ompaul> mm2000, define very quiet, and have you turned up hardware settings?
[18:59] <Devlon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/35922/, I need some help with the install please help!!
[18:59] <mm2000> ompaul: yes, at maximum
[19:00] <wols> Bodsda: he already runs vesa. I doubt he wants to
[19:00] <mactimes> Devlon: Run the CD integrity test, run memory test.
[19:00] <LIGHTspeed> Done, and aligned this time. :P
[19:00] <Bodsda> wols, oh, im not sure what to suggest next, any thoughts?
[19:00] <urbanmonkey> mm2000: what about the PCM?
[19:00] <devius> Bodsda: look i realise wols is good from hes confidence in what he says, but im quite new to linux, im learning it really fast, an ive master a lot in 2 weeks, but i still have problem getting around with the UNIX commands, so if he would be a little more patient with me that will be very appreciated...
[19:00] <mactimes> Devlon: If none fail, check your hard drive.
[19:00] <wols> Bodsda: find out what videocard
[19:00] <mm2000> ompaul: but... hmm, I think my hw-buttons effect the OS's sound
[19:01] <PineHead> wols : looks like something is running.
[19:01] <Devlon> Just got 2 new brand new hard drives
[19:01] <Bodsda> wols, It's a SiS Mirage
[19:01] <Devlon> There fine
[19:01] <mm2000> urbanmonkey: how to check?
[19:01] <wols> devius: I told you exactly what to type and what to do. what else do you need?
[19:01] <urbanmonkey> mm2000: open a console
[19:01] <wols> Bodsda: poor LIGHTspeed
[19:01] <urbanmonkey> mm2000: type alsamixer
[19:01] <Bodsda> devius, ask for the command again
[19:01] <wols> Bodsda: try the sis driver and pray. pray a lot
[19:01] <mactimes> Devlon: What about the tests I informed?
[19:01] <LIGHTspeed> The thing is, everything worked fine up until the time we shut it down last night. No settings were changed, it just booted up this morning like it is now.
[19:01] <devius> wols: ok, whats the command
[19:01] <Bodsda> wols, bad card im guessing? driver "sis" ? what is the driver name
[19:02] <dewman> hi
[19:02] <PineHead> I think it might also stem from the fact i can't ping my ip address with port 21 or 22 for some reason.  the box is dmzed though
[19:02] <urbanmonkey> mm2000: the second bar in should be the PCM level
[19:02] <wols> 19:40 < wols> devius: what videocard? and what does LIBGL_VERBOSE=yes glxinfo | less    say?
[19:02] <dewman> any one used emesene???
[19:02] <LIGHTspeed> I don't want to try the drivers. I've done that before and it did a complete crash of Ubuntu. It will never boot again.
[19:02] <wols> devius: please paste the command you type too this time
[19:02] <Sonderblade> i have no snd-* modules in /lib/modules/2.6.24-19/, why have they disappeared? how do i get them back?
[19:02] <mm2000> urbanmonkey: PCM is full
[19:02] <Devlon> dvd intergrity test pass's fine
[19:02] <IndyGunFreak> Devlon: well did you try what the error suggested?
[19:02] <Bodsda> devius, run this in a terminal                        LIBGL_VERBOSE=yes glxinfo | less
[19:02] <wols> Sonderblade: unlikely. find /lib/modules -name snd*
[19:02] <urbanmonkey> mm2000: what about Master?
[19:02] <mactimes> Devlon: Run the memory test then.
[19:02] <wols> Sonderblade: sudo depmod -a
[19:02] <devius> intel and just a second while i pot the the link
[19:03] <Devlon> I tried installing it one both sda1 and sda2
[19:03] <mm2000> urbanmonkey: full
[19:03] <dewman> any one used emesene for ubuntu ??
[19:03] <Bodsda> LIGHTspeed, i can only think of one more thing -- reboot get to the grub prompt    boot to recovery mode then choose the 'xfix' option
[19:03] <wols> !anyone | dewman
[19:03] <LIGHTspeed> I've tried that already, Bodsda. :/
[19:03] <Sonderblade> wols: there are no snd-* modules there
[19:03] <dewman> ok
[19:03] <wols> LIGHTspeed: try to use the sis driver
[19:04] <wols> Sonderblade: reinstall your kernel
[19:04] <dewman> unable to see contact list in emesene...
[19:04] <mm2000> it feel lisk I just have to "turn up the volume", bu I cannot find any buttons for it.
[19:04] <urbanmonkey> mm2000: hrm, sry, out of my level of knowledge then, it's usually one of those two
[19:04] <wols> Sonderblade: and think really hard what you did to remove them
[19:04] <mactimes> Devlon: Run the memory test.
[19:04] <IndyGunFreak> dewman: why not just use pidgin?
[19:04] <LIGHTspeed> wols, the video card is bad. If I enable a driver, Ubuntu won't boot ever again. (It happened twice)
[19:04] <Bodsda> LIGHTspeed, ok run this        sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old && sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf         then do 'xfix'
[19:04] <Devlon> what alternate methods can I do to install xubuntu now?  Anyway I can install from a live cd[booting from a live cd] and then install from the internet?
[19:04] <mm2000> urbanmokey: ok, ty anyway
[19:05] <wols> devius: yes
[19:05] <wols> !install | Devlon
[19:05] <IndyGunFreak> !alternate | Devlon
[19:05] <LIGHTspeed> Ok, be back in a bit.
[19:05] <dewman> IndyGunFreak:  not a big fan of pidgin....gaim and pidgin r the same right?
[19:05] <Sonderblade> wols: reinstalled, but the modules still doesn't show up
[19:06] <IndyGunFreak> not exactly, Pidgin has advanced quite a bit since GAIM became Pidgin
[19:06] <mactimes> Devlon: Don't be stubborn.  If you're getting I/O errors, that could be a memory problem.  You will end up having the same issue over and over.
[19:06] <devius> wols: pastebin.ca isnt responding is there anotherone
[19:06] <mactimes> devius: paste.ubuntu.com
[19:07] <permanewb> I need to replace my monitor with a much lower resolution monitor, how do I change settings so that it doesn't explode my monitor? I'm failing to find X configuration documentation. I think I can reboot to commandline, remove xorg.conf and run xorgcfg? Do I still have to write modelines for my monitor?
[19:07] <mercutio22> Is there a way for me to check whether my laptop has bluetooth ?
[19:07] <wols> !paste | devius
[19:07] <wols> where would I report an error for packages.ubuntu.com?
[19:08] <Seveas> wols, the ubuntu-website product on launchpad
[19:08] <devius> wols: this is everything in the console window i swear    http://paste.ubuntu.com/35925/
[19:08] <wols> Sonderblade: install linux-ubuntu-modules approrpiate for your kernel
[19:08] <billybigrigger> is there any way i can get the glx extension to work over vnc?
[19:09] <wols> devius: you still didn't type the LIBGL-VERBOSE=yes part
[19:09] <fyrestrtr> billybigrigger: that is not possible.
[19:09] <wols> devius: and you still didn't give the commandline you used
[19:09] <billybigrigger> fyrestrtr, no work around for it eh?
[19:09] <devius> wols: do  you want me to type it    LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose
[19:09] <wols> fyrestrtr: it is. but not in ubuntu
[19:09] <fyrestrtr> billybigrigger: well there you go :)
[19:09] <billybigrigger> hehe ok
[19:10] <billybigrigger> thanks fyrestrtr and wols
[19:10] <Sonderblade> wols: that adds the modules thanks, in ubuntu/sound instead of kernel/sound
[19:10] <wols> devius: I gave you the exact line to type 3 times. I don't think it's asksed too much to type exactly as I wrote it, is it?
[19:10] <wols> Sonderblade: after a depmod -a, modprobe will find them no matter where
[19:11] <wols> billybigrigger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VirtualGL
[19:11] <sisto> how can I make firefox visit a website every 60 minutes?
[19:11] <devius> wols: i typed it exactly and thats what i got i swear
[19:12] <dumples> My Update Manager window keeps freezing up every time I try to update.
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> sisto: theres a plugin called openevery or visitevery
[19:12] <fyrestrtr> sisto: probably an extension does it.
[19:12] <sisto> ActionParsnip: fyrestrtr: thx! will look that up
[19:12] <wols> devius: I don't believe you since I can't see in the paste what you typed as I repeatedly asked for
[19:12] <Scorp_> ActionParsnip: hey, i reinstalled Ubuntu, and i dont know how, but its solved the script problem.. So the Linksys router is k, but the distro had some error...
[19:12] <Scorp_> rconan: hey, i reinstalled Ubuntu, and i dont know how, but its solved the script problem.. So the Linksys router is k, but the distro had some error...
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> sisto: idiots use it to crank ther veiws so they look "popular"
[19:13] <LIGHTspeed> Back, and no changes. I think we may try backing up files and then reinstalling Ubuntu, but I don't know.
[19:13] <sisto> ActionParsnip: lol!! those assholes
[19:13] <refefer> question for you guys: do you know of a good command line utility that I can use to get the diskspace currently used within a folder?
[19:13] <sisto> ActionParsnip: I hope I never meet one of those... :)
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Scorp_: weird, itd be nice to know what it was though
[19:13] <devius> wols: it totaly removes it, but what i typed was:               LIBGL_VERBOSE=yes glxinfo | less
[19:13] <wols> devius: use LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> sisto: artists use it in youtube / myspace / yadda
[19:13] <wols> devius: sorry, I might have had a BIG brainfairt
[19:13] <wols> *brainfart
[19:14] <wols> but that's why you need to do exactly what I ask: if you had shown what you typed I'd seen my mistake earlier
[19:14] <Scorp_> ActionParsnip: I wish i could find it out.. Seriously no clue though... But ya, reinstalling ubuntu did work out..!! It suddenly started working correctly... and I scolded Linksys guys over the phone for no reason... hehehe... Said u make crap stuff...
[19:14] <rconan> Scorp_, wierd. are you still using the same firefox version and everything?
[19:14] <fyrestrtr> refefer: du --max-depth=1 -h
[19:14] <devius> wols: aha now there'z a difference
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Scorp_: linksys make sweet gear, runs linux too as the OS
[19:14] <Scorp_> Hey, can anyone gimme an idea as to what to write in front of the hard disk in /etc/fstab ?? there's some long coding that makes it run fast and efficient...
[19:15] <Scorp_> rconan: Yeah... all the same... No change...
[19:15] <lakis1982> do u have firefox 3 ???
[19:15] <wols> Sonderblade: no. it's just a UUID, doesn't make it faster at all
[19:15] <devius> wols: http://paste.ubuntu.com/35927/
[19:15] <Scorp_> ActionParsnip: But they say we dont support linux.. That's wierd.
[19:15] <lakis1982> are there any updates for firefox 3 ???
[19:15] <rconan> Scorp_, having noatime or relatime is definitely worth it
[19:15] <Scorp_> lakis1982: There's a beta 5 version...
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Scorp_: the techies wont, they will be idiots reading from scripts
[19:15] <fyrestrtr> Scorp_: not sure what you are talking about, but /etc/fstab is not for making disks faster. Are you talking about the UID?
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: updates how?
[19:15] <Scorp_> rconan: can you gimme ur fstab details ??
[19:15] <lakis1982> what you mean beta 5 ?
[19:15] <devius> aquafox: helloo aquabuddy
[19:15] <mactimes> refefer: du -sh
[19:15] <ompaul> Scorp_, take that conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic, it is offtopic for here but interesting none the less
[19:16] <Ahadiel> lakis1982, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, if there are NO new updates, they you have the "latest" in the repos.
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: you could compile the nightly snapshot
[19:16] <ompaul> Scorp_, (the linksys one)
[19:16] <Kumorigoe> Ok, here is my problem.  I can't switch the network interface to anything other than lo.
[19:16] <refefer> mactimes: that was easy enough, thanks!
[19:16] <dumples> My Update Manager window keeps freezing up any time i try to update, does anyone have any ideas of what might be causing this?
[19:16] <lakis1982> whate latest firefox version
[19:16] <lakis1982> not betaa
[19:16] <Scorp_> lakis1982: Its a newer version but not really a stable release..
[19:16] <Scorp_> lakis1982: FF 3
[19:16] <wols> devius: something is wrong with that glxinfo. it's supposed to show something more ;(  but gz for pasting the command this time. patebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log it should show up there too. hopefully
[19:16] <rconan> Scorp_, i just have relatime on all my linux filesystems
[19:16] <mactimes> refefer: You're welcome.
[19:16] <wols> devius: is this hardy or an earlier version of ubuntu?
[19:16] <lakis1982> firefox 3 crashes a lot
[19:17] <lakis1982> i had firefox 2 with no problems
[19:17] <Scorp_> ompaul: We spent almost 30 min trying to figure out the problem.. So its not really off-topic..
[19:17] <fyrestrtr> lakis1982: its mostly flash.
[19:17] <kannon> hello anyboy use xen?
[19:17] <lakis1982> mostly flash ?? what you mean ?
[19:17] <rconan> !anyone kannon
[19:17] <rconan> woops
[19:17] <devius> wols: hardy i updated it from the alpha copy 8.01
[19:17] <fyrestrtr> I mean its mostly due to the flash plugin.
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> lakis1982: flash is a bit twitchy, specially in 64bit Linux
[19:17] <dumples> Also would it be possible to get windows media player on ubuntu without WINE?
[19:17] <rconan> dumples, no
[19:18] <wols> !info firefox
[19:18] <rconan> dumples, wth do you want wmp anyway?!
[19:18] <fyrestrtr> dumples: what do you need from WMP?
[19:18] <wols> Scorp_: see how it's not an alpha or beta anymore in ubuntu?
[19:18] <dumples> My MP3 player only syncs with it
[19:18] <wols> dumples: no
[19:18] <LIGHTspeed> Alright. We're going to back up the computer and reinstall 8.04. Thank you very much for the help, Bodsda and Wols.
[19:18] <devius> wols: give me 2 minutes and ill come back
[19:18] <yoni> Hi all
[19:18] <wols> devius: sure
[19:19] <fyrestrtr> dumples: what media player do you have?
[19:19] <Kumorigoe> !info lo
[19:19] <kannon> sorry, 	someone use xen
[19:19] <yoni> Does Ubuntu 8.4 includ GTK2.10+?
[19:19] <yoni> *include
[19:19] <dumples> fyrestrtr: amarok
[19:19] <sisto> ActionParsnip: found it... it's called reload every. thx
[19:19] <Kumorigoe> How do you diable the loopbackinterface
[19:19] <mercutio22> Hello guys, I suspect I don't have bluetooth but I have bluetooth modules being loaded at startup. Can someone help me verify that? How can I list which devices I have in my PC?
[19:20] <Carpe|Diem> Does anyone in here has experience with Deli Linux?;)
[19:20] <rconan> mercutio22, lspci or lsusb would do it
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> sisto: np man
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> !ati
[19:20] <Scorp_> wols: i dint get u
[19:20] <fyrestrtr> yoni: yes, 2.12.9 iirc
[19:20] <mernil> hi!
[19:20] <Gnea> Carpe|Diem: if any of us did, why would we talk about it here?
[19:20] <fyrestrtr> Kumorigoe: you really don't want to do that.
[19:21] <Kumorigoe> Okay.
[19:21] <Carbonflux> say I have two machines on the same lan running ubuntu, one of them is playing music using pulse audio, is it possible to stream that music to the other machine also? even syncing them ? :)
[19:21] <mercutio22> rconan: cool, I know those commands. I think there is a guy like windows device manager though? Do you know of it?
[19:21] <Carpe|Diem> Gnea, I didn't say you should talk about it here:) Maybe we could private message...whatever...I was just asking:)
[19:21] <mernil> I just gives  answers to female users, to rest the others! Okay?
[19:21] <Kumorigoe> How do I get the connection to be the wireless?
[19:21] <abchirk> with alt + tab I can choose next window or else.. can I change those keys?
[19:21] <devius> wols: im back its hardy i updated it from the alpha copy 8.01
[19:21] <rconan> mercutio22, there's a package in the repos called device-manager IIRC
[19:21] <rconan> !info device-manager
[19:21] <rconan> or not
[19:21] <eikke> is there an easy way to convert debian sid packages into ubuntu packages?
[19:21] <rconan> can't remember the name
[19:21] <Gnea> Carpe|Diem: the question is, unfortunately, offtopic and simply shouldn't be asked in here. I'm sure there's a channel for it, somewhere else.
[19:22] <Carpe|Diem> ok Gnea i will search for it again
[19:22] <wols> devius: Xorg.0.log please
[19:22] <wols> eikke: sorta. backport the sources
[19:22] <Carpe|Diem> Gnea, i was asking here because the are almost 1300 people in here, do there might be a good chance anyone knew about Deli;)
[19:22] <wols> eikke: download the deb-src from sid and build it
[19:22] <mercutio22> rconan: I am pretty sure I saw an app like that once
[19:22] <eikke> wols: any howto on that?
[19:22] <fyrestrtr> eikke: if its a version problem, try looking for a package at getdeb.net
[19:22] <rconan> ah... mercutio22, gnome-device-manager
[19:22] <devius> wols: sry but whats that
[19:23] <Gnea> !offtopic | Carpe|Diem
[19:23] <Carpe|Diem> :(
[19:23] <Carpe|Diem> okok
[19:23] <devius> wols: where is it found
[19:23] <wols> eikke: 20:23 <dpkg> First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add a "deb-src ..." line ONLY for sid to your sources.list.  2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs.  If you are just wanting to change the compilation
[19:23] <wols>  options,ask me about <package re compile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old
[19:23] <Kumorigoe> Because I can connect to the wireless network, but not the internet.
[19:23] <wols> devius: /var/log
[19:23] <wols> Kumorigoe: ping google.com
[19:23] <sisto> can I make x-chat automatically mark me as away when I leave the computer??
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> !envyng > BigBuddha
[19:23] <mercutio22> rconan: cool. I will try that out
[19:24] <Kumorigoe> wols: Error, address cannot be found
[19:25] <fyrestrtr> Kumorigoe: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[19:25] <wols> Kumorigoe: nslookup google.com
[19:25] <devius> wols: sry but for my info what is this log for        http://paste.ubuntu.com/35929/
[19:25] <dtolj> I only see 2 resolutions under System->Preferences->Screen Resolutions (800x600) and (600x480)
[19:25] <unop> !prevu
[19:25] <mercutio22> for some reason I can't resize my windows with the bottom border. Is that an emerald bug or a compiz bug? Anyone else experiences that?
[19:25] <dtolj> How would I add more resolutions?
[19:25] <yoni> fyrestrtr - thanks :)
[19:26] <devius> wols: and there is also Xorg.0.log.old   backup in the same directory
[19:26] <Kumorigoe> From the ping tab, or the terminal?
[19:26] <fyrestrtr> Kumorigoe: the terminal
[19:26] <wols> devius: might be the versin in ubuntu doesn't support your X3100 yet :(
[19:26] <Leefmc> Question: Anyone care to give me some pointers to make BtnX (or even Ubuntu) recognize my MX Revolution? At the moment, Ubuntu seems to think its just a standard mouse.
[19:27] <sisto> can I make x-chat automatically mark me as away when I leave the computer for a while??
[19:27] <mercutio22> rconan: pretty cool. Thats exactly what I was looking for
[19:27] <LinuxKitten> ummm i have no sound
[19:27] <ds[de]> Hi. When I try to run ccsm (compizconfig settings manager) I get the error message: ImportError: /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packagaes/cairo/_cairo.so: invalid ELF header ... how can I fix this?
[19:27] <devius> wols: i found the xf86-intel-video  update
[19:27] <dtolj> LinuxKitten: try unmuting
[19:27] <Gnea> !sound | LinuxKitten
[19:27] <LinuxKitten> i just upgraded to 7.10
[19:27] <wols> devius: where?
[19:27] <IndyGunFreak> LinuxKitten: well thats a brilliant explanation of the problem
[19:28] <Kumorigoe> Connection timed out.
[19:28] <fyrestrtr> ds[de]: try re-installing it.
[19:28] <devius> wols: from http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html
[19:28] <wols> devius: yes, that's an option to try
[19:28] <dumples> So what are the pros and cons of the older versions of ubuntu, (ones that are not hardy)
[19:28] <Kumorigoe> On the Network manager icon, it lists lo.  should it be something else?
[19:28] <sushiX> guys any idea how to name a workspace
[19:29] <ds[de]> fyrestrtr: do I have to do this by apt-get remove && apt-get install or is there a "cleaner" approach?
[19:29] <wols> dumples: not many pros
[19:29] <Gnea> dumples: pro: they work. con: they're not supported.
[19:29] <devius> wols: i tried but i come to this part of the installation when it says xinerama not found
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> Leefmc: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=277388
[19:29] <rconan> dumples, you could argue that they might be more stable but i wouldn't recommend using them unless your facing a major regression
[19:29] <wols> devius: exact description what command you run and what the output of the command is
[19:29] <fyrestrtr> ds[de]: that's about as clean as it gets -- you could add --purge to apt-get remove
[19:29] <devius> wols: what in the world of bytes is xinerama
[19:29] <devius> wols: ok jus a second
[19:29] <Gnea> !xinerama | devius
[19:29] <wols> devius: dual screen support
[19:29] <ds[de]> fyrestrtr: alright, I'll try that, thx
[19:30] <LinuxKitten> i mean the sound is there it's just UBER quiet, and all the volume is all the way up
[19:30] <devius> ok gimme the command that installs xinerama???
[19:30] <LinuxKitten> including the speakers
[19:30] <isakey> !usb
[19:30] <Gnea> LinuxKitten: what volume?
[19:30] <Leefmc> ActionParsnip: Yea, i'm aware of that page.. it just seems a bit much. i was hoping all i needed was a specific X11 config setup. Ubuntu normally recognizes the MX Revolution does it not? It did by default on my Laptop, but not my Mac Pro
[19:30] <sushiX>  guys any idea how to rename a workspace
[19:30] <LinuxKitten> on everything
[19:30] <fyrestrtr> LinuxKitten: turn up the master channel from the volume control.
[19:30] <LinuxKitten> i did
[19:30] <alex-weej_> sushiX: right click the workspace switcher applet and go to preferences
[19:31] <Gnea> LinuxKitten: you can either keep saying vague things, or you can get into more detail. have it your way.
[19:31] <LinuxKitten> i did alsamixer too
[19:31] <arrrghhh> how can i allow all lan clients in firestarter?
[19:31] <ds[de]> fyrestrtr: is it safe to remove python-cairo? just asking, because a lot of packages will be removed
[19:31] <LinuxKitten> ok
[19:31] <alex-weej_> LinuxKitten: hi
[19:31] <alex-weej_> LinuxKitten: try http://answers.launchpad.net/
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> Leefmc: well do all the buttons work?
[19:32] <fyrestrtr> ds[de]: yes, its just bindings.
[19:32] <LinuxKitten> the volume is up all the way on: alsamixer the volume on the taskbar and the physical sound dial
[19:32] <Leefmc> ActionParsnip: Umm, no. Thats what i ment by ubuntu not recognizing the mx revolution :). Its just a normal mouse.. Left & Right buttons, no middle mouse, and it has a scroll wheel.
[19:32] <Grobvok> LinuxKitten: you put everything on high in alsamixer?
[19:32] <Leefmc> ActionParsnip: If ubuntu saw the mx revolutions buttons, i'd have no problem.
[19:32] <LinuxKitten> yes
[19:32] <LinuxKitten> but it's still quiet
[19:33] <Gnea> LinuxKitten: for starters: did you check the speaker connections? are you sure they're all plugged in nice and snug? are the speakers powered? if so, are they turned on? what about tone/treble/bass settings? in your alsamixer, did you only adjust the Master switch? did you try PCM?
[19:33] <Grobvok> LinuxKitten: What about the application from which you want to hear sound?
[19:33] <LinuxKitten> pidgin
[19:33] <LinuxKitten> and
[19:33] <LinuxKitten> it's a laptop
[19:33] <devius> wols: #
[19:33] <devius> git clone git://git.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel
[19:33] <devius> #
[19:33] <devius> cd xf86-video-intel
[19:33] <devius> #
[19:33] <devius> ./autogen.sh --prefix=/opt/gfx-test
[19:33] <FloodBot2> devius: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:33] <Leefmc> Man the ubuntu wiki is SLOW heh. Searching for mx revolution takes forever.
[19:33] <devius> #
[19:33] <LinuxKitten> the speakers are built in
[19:33] <SirBob1701> hey does anyone know the name of the package that includes the binary to open/create .eet files for enlightenment?
[19:33] <Gnea> then you obviously didn't adjust alsamixer correctly.
[19:34] <LinuxKitten> .....
[19:34] <LinuxKitten> THEY ARE ALL UP
[19:34] <wols> Ademan: pastebin
[19:34] <Gnea> !caps | LinuxKitten
[19:34] <sushiX> anyone tried installing ubuntu on a ASUS 1000HD    ?
[19:34] <devius> floodbot2: sry, haha
[19:34] <fyrestrtr> LinuxKitten: run vlc, open any sound file, and then hit CTRL+G, click on Equalizer, check Enable, then move the preamp slider up, see if that helps.
[19:34] <wols> !anyone | sushiX
[19:34] <Gnea> LinuxKitten: please stay calm, there's no need to get upset.
[19:34] <crdlb> devius: you did that?
[19:35] <Sina> HI
[19:35] <devius> crdlb: did what
[19:35] <billybigrigger> LinuxKitten, in your mixer settings is there a master switch?
[19:35] <LinuxKitten> you are having an attitude with me that i don't appreciate
[19:35] <LinuxKitten> no
[19:35] <crdlb> devius: installed the intel driver from git
[19:35] <ds[de]> fyrestrtr: damn, that removed a lot of packages including gedit, simple-ccsm, compiz-config-settings-manager etc.
[19:35] <Kumorigoe> I just want internet.
[19:35] <velvithammer> headphone jack
[19:35] <LinuxKitten> nothing in it
[19:35] <billybigrigger> LinuxKitten, external amp?
[19:35] <Grobvok> LinuxKitten: It might be the application from which you are trying to hear sound.
[19:35] <Gnea> LinuxKitten: sorry.
[19:35] <fyrestrtr> LinuxKitten: try my suggestion, as it helps on my laptop.
[19:36] <velvithammer> if you plug speakers in will it work
[19:36] <devius> crdlb: ya but while install ing in stage  ./autogen.sh --prefix=/opt/gfx-test  it said xinerama not found or missing something like that
[19:36] <velvithammer> i had that prob
[19:36] <IndyGunFreak> LinuxKitten: whats your sound device... if its a laptop, i'll bet you a buffalo nickel, its Intel HDA
[19:36] <LinuxKitten> brb
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> !xinerama | devius
[19:36] <Gnea> !ask
[19:36] <crdlb> devius: you really don't want to do that; the intel driver in hardy fully suports the X3100
[19:37] <LinuxKitten> brb
[19:37] <velvithammer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765867  this will work
[19:37] <devius> crdlb: then why do i get a problem in the graphics acceleration
[19:37] <RageMachine> Does anyone know of a good program to overclock from inside ubuntu?
[19:37] <devius> crdlb: ???
[19:37] <velvithammer> jack sense
[19:37] <mernil> fds
[19:38] <crdlb> devius: because you're using Xgl ...
[19:39] <wols> crdlb: where did you see that?
[19:39] <crdlb> wols: name of display: :1.0
[19:39] <AlexMax> My networking seems to go 'kaput' after a couple of hours of use.  I will be working along and BAM, everything stops, I can't access the internet, I can't tunnel through my VPN, I can't ping anything for 'destination host unreachable', etc.  Restarting my comp fixes it and my workmates have no trouble keeping connected to the internet.  Any ideas?
[19:39] <crdlb> in the glxinfo output
[19:39] <devius> crdlb: then what should i do
[19:39] <crdlb> devius: uninstall xserver-xgl package and log out
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> AlexMax: wired or wireless?
[19:39] <AlexMax> Wired
[19:39] <fyrestrtr> AlexMax: intel wifi perchance?
[19:40] <ioannis> Hello, iam new to linux, can somebody help me to run flash ? i have installed flashplugin-nonfree & ubuntu-restricted-extras & libflashsupport but the screen freeze after 2secounds without sound and sometimes the browser even close itself when i visit youtube
[19:40] <fyrestrtr> ah nevermind.
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> AlexMax: try a different port
[19:40] <devius> crdlb: logout from my user account right
[19:40] <AlexMax> a different port?
[19:40] <AlexMax> like, hook my cable up to a different port on the router?
[19:40] <fyrestrtr> AlexMax: does the entire computer freeze, or just networking?
[19:40] <Dill823> I am trying to access a Raid0 array on an Asus p5-e motherboard, the array was created in windows. This is what I get ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/mapper/isw_bdgddedgbc_Volume0 /mnt/hdb
[19:40] <Dill823> NTFS signature is missing.
[19:40] <Dill823> Failed to mount '/dev/mapper/isw_bdgddedgbc_Volume0': Invalid argument
[19:40] <Dill823> The device '/dev/mapper/isw_bdgddedgbc_Volume0' doesn't have a valid NTFS.
[19:40] <Dill823> Maybe you selected the wrong device? Or the whole disk instead of a
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> AlexMax: the wire is plugged into the router in a hole called a port, try it in a different one
[19:40] <FloodBot2> Dill823: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:40] <Dill823> partition (e.g. /dev/hda, not /dev/hda1)? Or the other way around?
[19:40] <AlexMax> networking
[19:40] <yuro> i installed ubuntu on 1 disk without partition. if i make another partition, would that be okay ?
[19:40] <joetheodd> Hey guys, I'm trying to build firefox for a i386. Any pointers, or will the i686 code build against one just fine?
[19:40] <AlexMax> ActionParsnip: Port is ambiguous
[19:41] <fyrestrtr> joetheodd: what is the exact processor you are building against.
[19:41] <devius> crdlb: for complete removal
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> AlexMax: well give it a go, i thought the context cleared that
[19:41] <devius> crdlb: ???
[19:41] <devius> crdlb: ???
[19:42] <joetheodd> firestrtr, intel pentium, I think. (pentium 1)
[19:42] <AlexMax> I'llget to that when I can.
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> joetheodd: the i686 will be fine
[19:42] <wols> devius: apt-get remove --purge xserver-xgl
[19:42] <AlexMax> dmesg | grep eth0 returns...
[19:42] <AlexMax> 27.226980] 0000:00:19.0: eth0: Intel(R) PRO/10/100 Network Connection
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> joetheodd: just install from repos to avoid issues
[19:42] <joetheodd> fyrestrtr, uname -a says Linux anchor 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux, so maybe i'm just dumb :P
[19:42] <wols> ActionParsnip: P5 is nto a 686
[19:42] <Grobvok> You can't install Ubuntu without a partition.
[19:42] <joetheodd> ActanParsnip, thanks. :)
[19:42] <devius> wols: i removed it
[19:42] <AlexMax> So yes it is an intel card
[19:42] <AlexMax> just not using intel wireless
[19:42] <wols> devius: restart X
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> wols: i thouugh 686 was anything above a p3
[19:43] <wols> ActionParsnip: P5 = pentium 1. 2 gens before P3
[19:43] <wols> ActionParsnip: and from PPRo onwards all are 686
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> wols: ahhh
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> oh i didnt know p5 -- p1
[19:43] <yuro> grobvok,no i mean i installed ubuntuon 1 full disk, and i want to make another partition for my data (separate from system)
[19:44] <AlexMax> If it matters, I'm having to pass acpi=off irqpoll all_generic_ide as kernel params
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> AlexMax: are you fully upidated?
[19:44] <tore> how can I filter out the postfix-entries in syslog?
[19:44] <AlexMax> I should be
[19:44] <tore> it's flooding the syslog, so the logwatch-mail I get is so big that thunderbird hangs...
[19:44] <yuro> so if i reinstall ubuntu, i won't wipe my data
[19:44] <Sonderblade> yuro: so repartition your disk
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> AlexMax: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:44] <devius> wols: it says bash: restart not found
[19:45] <AlexMax> My ubuntu install was actually acting funny just today.  I was running it with just all_generic_ide, and then all of the sudden it just stops working....by passing the other two it started working again but my network has been going down ever since then...it was fine before
[19:45] <yuro> SounderBlade, can do that without reinstalling ?
[19:45] <Sonderblade> tore: see syslog.conf you can make postfix messages to to e.g. /var/log/postfix.log
[19:45] <AlexMax> maybe the kernel params have something to do with it
[19:45] <LinuxKitten> ok
[19:45] <AlexMax> i've been running it with just all_generic_ide for weeks and it was fine
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> AlexMax: sounds like a starting point dude
[19:45] <wols> devius: it's not something to type but DO
[19:45] <LinuxKitten> it IS working with external speakers
[19:45] <velvithammer> yeah its jack sense
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> devius: if you wanna reboot: sudo shutdown -r now
[19:45] <ioannis> Hello, iam new to linux, can somebody help me to run flash ? i have installed flashplugin-nonfree & ubuntu-restricted-extras & libflashsupport but the screen freeze after 2secounds without sound and sometimes the browser even close itself when i visit youtube
[19:46] <velvithammer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765867  linuxkitty
[19:46] <creaux> does anyone know an alternative program to tracepath?
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> ioannis: 64bit or 32bit?
[19:46] <devius> wols: ok you mean i should just restart my computer???
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> creaux: tracert
[19:46] <wols> creaux: mtr, traceroute
[19:46] <AlexMax> ActionParsnip: I am fully up to date
[19:46] <ioannis> installed 32
[19:46] <wols> devius: no I said to restart X, not the PC
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> AlexMax: ok cool
[19:46] <AlexMax> Restart X: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[19:47] <devius> wols: ok, how do i do that
[19:47] <creaux> thx
[19:47] <zelrikriando> ioannis, you re problem sounds like flash
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> ioannis: you could go to www.adobe.com and get it there
[19:47] <Lianis> hola
[19:47] <AlexMax> The browser closing by itself when you visit youtube is a flash problem.  My flash works 'perfectly' and it does the same thing every so often
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> !hi | Lianis
[19:47] <ioannis> ActionParsnip, i were and i have downloaded and installed it
[19:47] <Lianis> what?
[19:47] <ioannis>     Dateiname: libflashplayer.so
[19:47] <ioannis>     Shockwave Flash 9.0 r124
[19:47] <AlexMax> without the freezing of course
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> ioannis: ok cool
[19:48] <Athen> what was that graphical test gear spinning thingy again ?
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> !flashsound
[19:48] <Brucee> in totem player, is there a way to make the player to play the playlist and when it ends, it loops back to play at the beginning again?
[19:48] <devius> wols: how do i do that??
[19:48] <zelrikriando> ioannis, the screen freezing shouldnt happen I think, but youtube closing your browser is a known issue
[19:48] <wols> devius: AlexMax told you one way
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> ioannis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> ioannis: http://www.arsgeek.com/2007/11/27/how-to-fix-no-sound-with-flashfirefox-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy/
[19:49] <wols> Athen: glxgears. it's useless. use glxinfo to test 3D rendering
[19:49] <devius> wols: sry i didnt spot it
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> ioannis: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUK248&q=ubuntu+no+sound+in+flash&btnG=Search
[19:49] <zelrikriando> ioannis, version of firefox/ubuntu?
[19:49] <Athen> wols:: k
[19:49] <alex-weej_> Brucee: sure!
[19:49] <alex-weej_> Brucee: Edit -> Repeat Mode
[19:50] <Brucee> ty lol
[19:50] <alex-weej_> :>
[19:50] <vurseth> hi
[19:50] <alex-weej_> Athen: glxgears
[19:50] <alex-weej_> oh you got it
[19:50]  * alex-weej_ does some Answers'ing
[19:50] <ProgenitorVirus> Hi there!  Just a quick question.  After updating Ubuntu, shutdown is weird, sometimes with a few lines of text then going normal, sometimes with a light blue screen with e's all over it and the cursor in the top left of the screen.  Is this normal?
[19:50] <Athen> yep, well, it's still broken though :P
[19:50] <Moojkm> has anyone got a wiimote to work as a gamepad?
[19:50] <Brucee> sorry for all this questions, just trying to familiarize with ubuntu and its applications ;-)
[19:50] <ioannis> zelrikriando, ubuntu: 8.04 Firefox: 3.0.1
[19:51] <vurseth> hello!
[19:51] <fyrestrtr> ProgenitorVirus: definitely not normal.
[19:51] <aquarius> Can I tell network-manager to not connect to a specific wireless network?
[19:51] <pjvandehaar> im using opera, and i was told to paste a code into im.css to stop joining/leaving notifications- where would i find im.css? i cant find it...
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> aquarius: thats its job
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> pjvandehaar: find / -name im.css
[19:52] <alex-weej_> aquarius: right click -> Edit Connections
[19:52] <vurseth> bye
[19:52] <devius> wols: im back afer ctrl + alt + bkspace
[19:52] <ProgenitorVirus> Its only done that once, most of the time it'll just give me some network stopping errors.  No problems at all, just curious.  Should I look anymore into it?
[19:52] <vurseth> i am brasilian!
[19:52] <fyrestrtr> pjvandehaar: /usr/share/opera/styles/
[19:52] <alex-weej_> aquarius: if it's in that list, it will try to connect. if not, it won't. delete anything you don't want to connect to.
[19:52] <Phencyclidin> hi
[19:52] <aquarius> ActionParsnip: no, no, I know that. There are two wireless networks here. I used to use network A, now I use network B, but network-manager, on startup, connects to A by default.
[19:52] <ioannis> ActionParsnip, want me to read this links ? my problem isnt that i have no sound in flash, my problem is that it doesnt even run :)
[19:52] <zelrikriando> ioannis, ok so it shouldnt happen...you should stick around, maybe some expert will show up
[19:53] <devius> wols: im back
[19:53] <devius> wols: im back
[19:53] <vurseth> hello!
[19:53] <devius> wols: im back
[19:53] <Phencyclidin> does anyone know how to install "32 bit compatibility libraries"?
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> ioannis: id uninstall all flashes and then reinstall
[19:53] <aquarius> alex-weej_: aha! that sounds useful. (it's called "Edit Wireless Networks", I think?) Was it in gutsy, or did it arrive with hardy?
[19:53] <devius> ok
[19:53] <ioannis> ActionParsnip, ok i will try this
[19:53] <pjvandehaar> fyrestrter: got it- thanks
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> aquarius: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=359129
[19:54] <alex-weej_> aquarius: can't remember, but it's even better in the new 0.7 version in Intrepid :)
[19:54] <vurseth> bay
[19:54] <vurseth> bey, rsss
[19:54] <Grobvok> I can't hear sound from Firefox and Rhythmbox at the same time. What's the problem?
[19:55] <zelrikriando> ioannis, you should stick around, I have had some good help on flash here sometime ago
[19:55] <aquarius> ActionParsnip: that says to change your list of "trusted networks"; where is that list?
[19:55] <devius> crdbl: ok devius, the guy with the graphics card proble
[19:55] <Gnea> Grobvok: what soundcard do you have?
[19:55] <aquarius> alex-weej_: tragedy! It's not there in the gutsy network-manager :)
[19:55] <devius> wols: ok devius, the guy with the graphics card proble
[19:55] <mworks> hi there, I really need help
[19:55] <Gnea> !ask | mworks
[19:56] <aquarius> alex-weej_: is that because it just wasn't exposed in gutsy, or is it actually not possible to control the list of networks in gutsy NM?
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> aquarius: open up network manager
[19:56] <alex-weej_> aquarius: see if the program "nm-editor" is installed on gutsy - that's what it used to be called
[19:56] <devius> i a waiting...
[19:56] <Grobvok> Gnea: Creative SB Audigy LS
[19:56] <aquarius> ActionParsnip: what does "open up" mean? left-click the menu gets the list of wireless networks.
[19:56] <alex-weej_> aquarius: and if the worst comes to the worst, run gconf-editor and look under /system/networking/connections
[19:56] <devius> no one to answer me, :)
[19:57] <Gnea> !patience | devius
[19:57] <alex-weej_> aquarius: or rather /system/networking/wireless/networks
[19:57] <Dazed> im having a lot of trouble getting shockwave working
[19:57] <aquarius> alex-weej_: cor, i don't have system/networking in gconf at all
[19:57] <devius> sry every one
[19:57] <Gnea> Grobvok: what is the system using as a default output device?
[19:57] <alex-weej_> aquarius: perhaps it is under a /apps/nm-applet or something silly
[19:58] <aquarius> alex-weej_: yah, poking around now :)
[19:58] <Grobvok> Gnea: ALSA
[19:58] <alex-weej_> aquarius: it will have stored its configuration somewhere, you just need to find it hehe
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> aquarius: heres where i draw blank, i manually edit /etc/network/interfaces
[19:58] <Gnea> Grobvok: and how did you confirm that?
[19:58] <aquarius> ActionParsnip: I'm strenuously trying to not do that because it's not 1998 any more ;)
[19:58] <Puckinovski>  /msg ubottu etiquette
[19:58] <alpha28> oi
[19:59] <devius> anyone needs help with: advanced linux sound architecture (alsa) im here to solve
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> aquarius: if you can do it then you can uninstall the config apps :)
[19:59] <alpha28> alguem do brazil
[19:59] <mworks> ok, I will. Here it is: I've just installed matlab 2008a in ubuntu 8, but when I was 99%: cannot find jre. matlab: no matlab bin directory for this machine architecture
[19:59] <Grobvok> Gnea: It says so in the sound preferences.
[19:59] <aquarius> ActionParsnip: ah, it isn't my laptop, it's my ex-wife's :)
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> aquarius: well is it the only wifi she is gonna use?
[19:59] <Gnea> Grobvok: does one of them stop outputting sound when the other starts?
[19:59] <Sonderblade> how can i make apt-get remove also purge packages?
[20:00] <Gnea> Sonderblade: apt-get --purge remove <package>
[20:00] <unop> Sonderblade, --purge
[20:00] <Sonderblade> thanks
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> Sonderblade: sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename
[20:00] <Gnea> Sonderblade: oh wait, package files themselves?
[20:00] <Grobvok> Gnea: No, when one works, the other one won't start.
[20:00] <Gnea> Sonderblade: apt-get clean
[20:01] <Gnea> Grobvok: but only those 2 apps or any sound apps?
[20:01] <stodan> do you know any decent olimpic opening resource?
[20:01] <aquarius> ActionParsnip: not necessarily, which is why I don't wan tto do manual config :)
[20:01] <Dazed> is anybody able to load this game?
[20:01] <Dazed> http://www.isketch.net/isketch.shtml
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> aquarius: bah
[20:01] <Dazed> mine comes with a thing that says installing shockwave
[20:01] <maze_> ThinkLINUX
[20:01] <Dazed> then sits there forever with no progress
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> Dazed: looks like a shockwave thing
[20:01] <Grobvok> Gnea: When Firefox is on and makes sound from flash, other sound apps don't work.
[20:01] <mworks> Gne: ﻿Here it is: I've just installed matlab 2008a in ubuntu 8, but when I was 99%: cannot find jre. matlab: no matlab bin directory for this machine architecture
[20:01] <Gnea> hey look, drive-by spam
[20:01] <Dazed> i have shockwave and firefox for windows running in wine
[20:01] <aquarius> bah, no nm-editor in gutsy
[20:02] <Grobvok> Gnea: And by not working, I mean does not make sound.
[20:02] <Dazed> shouldnt that work
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> Dazed: i guess
[20:02] <Puckinovski> Can someone help me with a DVD burner issue " Inappropriate ioctl for device"
[20:02] <vurseth> hello
[20:02] <vurseth> Please!
[20:03] <devius> people i've waited long enough
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> Puckinovski: http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUK248&=&q=Inappropriate+ioctl+for+device&btnG=Google+Search
[20:03] <Gnea> Grobvok: see if this changes anything: nail all of your sound apps, including FF, then sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop, then start and try again
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> devius: wassup?
[20:03] <Gnea> !ask | vurseth
[20:03] <tim__> how can i getr the background of my terminal transparent, so that the desktop is visible
[20:03] <Puckinovski> I know how google works.
[20:04] <Puckinovski> thanks
[20:04] <sh4d0w> tim__ the gnome terminal?
[20:04] <devius> ActionParsnip: ya i was in the middle of a problem almost being solved but, where is the continuation???
[20:04] <vurseth> onde newserver in portuguese? please
[20:04] <Gnea> tim__: edit->profiles->edit default
[20:04] <tim__> no
[20:04] <vurseth> is #kurumin-pt?
[20:04] <Sonderblade> is there a way to remove all rc packages in one go?
[20:04] <Gnea> !br | vurseth
[20:04] <devius> ubottu:
[20:04] <vurseth> yes
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> tim__: in Gnome and Ubuntu you look for the Effects tab under Profiles. In KDE you can select Save as Default for the changes to apply very time you launch a terminal. In Gnome or Ubuntu you can create a new profile to make the changes permanent.
[20:05] <Grobvok> Gnea: Didn't do anything.
[20:05] <devius> ubottu: are you french or italian ??
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> devius: ok whats happening and i'll try help
[20:05] <vurseth> ok, thank you
[20:05] <tim__> but how can i make it transparent? kde-terminal
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> tim__: you can find it under Schema in the Settings menu
[20:06] <mworks> can anyone help me? Im going cracy
[20:06] <mworks> crazy*
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> tim__: i simply websearched that you know. I use yakuake
[20:06] <sh4d0w> tim__ do u use compiz-fusion?
[20:06] <mworks> puedo hablar español :P
[20:06] <Gnea> Grobvok: just for plops 'n giggles, try rebooting and adding the following to your kernel line at boot:  pci=routeirq
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> !ask | mworks
[20:06] <tim_> yes
[20:06] <Grobvok> Gnea: I think the problem comes from flash.
[20:06] <Dazed> nobody on linux can play isketch? :\
[20:07] <vurseth> #ubuntu-pt
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Dazed: we'll live
[20:07] <Dazed> lies
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Dazed: what is it?
[20:07] <Dazed> its like pictionary basically
[20:07] <Gnea> Grobvok: then we're done.
[20:07] <Dazed> but multiplayer
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Dazed: oic, pictionary rocks
[20:07] <PineHead> is telnet default installed on ubunto?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> PineHead: indeed
[20:08] <PineHead> of course i can't telnet to my box either
[20:08] <PineHead> jesus
[20:08] <sh4d0w> tim__ then ccsm, general, opacity-settings / new class=Konsole 80 par exemple
[20:08] <ompaul> PineHead, are you on the box you want to ssh into?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> PineHead: you running a telnet server and have it opened on the firewall
[20:08] <PineHead> no i'm on my windows box.
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> PineHead: are yu mixing telnet with ssh
[20:08] <PineHead> i thought i had that wholebox dmzed on my router.
[20:09] <PineHead> but ic an't ping any telnet, or ssh ports
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> PineHead: a good ssh client app is putty
[20:09] <devius> ActionParsnip: i was talking with wols about my intel graphics accelerator, it doesnt render properly in cedega and also generally on the desktop or during video playback, we ended up saying ill install the new xf86-intel-video driver, but when i did i got a problem with xinerama, they told me restart X, i did that and when im back, no ones there to continue, i feel so unwanted now, or is the problem to complex for them, they could simplay say i dont know,
[20:09] <devius>  i dont expect them to know everything were humans????
[20:09] <ompaul> PineHead, type ssh -C username@ip-of-other-box    in putty
[20:09] <PineHead> yeah the apts arn't the problem, its being able to access it.
[20:09] <fouvy> hehe
[20:09] <PineHead> ompaul: the lan ip or real ip?
[20:09] <XiXaQ> is there any way to configure a keyboard shortcut to launch a command, such as terminal?
[20:09] <ompaul> PineHead, of the machine that you want to log into wherever it is
[20:10] <mworks> ayuda por favor!!
[20:10] <pyrite1978> anyone know anything about Cedega?
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> devius: try reinstalling xinerama, might help
[20:10] <Leefmc> Question: How do you make Screenlets stick to your desktop? Ie, i often click the show desktop button to view my desktop, but if i do that my screenlets minimize, any thoughts?
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead | devius
[20:10] <XiXaQ> pyrite1978, yes, I know that it's an old fork of wine.
[20:10] <devius> ActionParsnip: ok but how do i reinstall it
[20:10] <ompaul> PineHead, you need to know that your ip is not the same as the other machine if you are on the network
[20:10] <ompaul> PineHead, you need to know that your ip is not the same as the other machine if you are on the same network
[20:10] <XiXaQ> pyrite1978, I'd rather recommend you have a look at CrossOver Games.
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Leefmc: have you made them locked?
[20:11] <PineHead> ompaul: I know that but i was attempting to access it via the broadband IP and the router route me back to the machiene which has the open port.
[20:11] <Leefmc> ActionParsnip: I tried that, they still minimize when you click the "Show Desktop" button
[20:11] <pyrite1978> XiXaQ: Is that any better then cedega?
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Leefmc: thats all i got, sorry
[20:11] <ompaul> PineHead, are they on the same network?
[20:11] <Leefmc> ActionParsnip: K. I assume you dont use screenlets this way?
[20:12] <PineHead> yes
[20:12] <PineHead> ompaul: yes sitting right next to me.
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> devius: use apt-get or synaptic
[20:12] <XiXaQ> pyrite1978, CrossOver Games cooperate with Wine both ways. Cedega doesn't give and doesn't receive any help.
[20:12] <Gin> what's the package called that install all restrichetd codecs and flash etc at once?
[20:12] <atha> hello, i cant get my time date settings to work, i try to do it manually and nothing happens...
[20:12] <ompaul> PineHead, then you need to use the network address on the lan
[20:12] <XiXaQ> Gin, ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:12] <devius> ActionParsnip: apt-get install xinerama
[20:12] <ompaul> PineHead, once you have done that we can talk about other tricks
[20:12] <pyrite1978> XiXaQ: in other words, Cedega  charges you for nothing :P
[20:12] <PineHead> ompaul: I se the putty host name to the lan address 192.168.1.65 and it would not connect.
[20:13] <frojnd> How can I restart openssh-server ?
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> devius: sudo apt-get --purge remove xinerama
[20:13] <ompaul> frojnd, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start
[20:13] <ompaul> PineHead, and what is the ip of the windows box?
[20:13] <devius> ActionParsnip: it says Couldn't find package xinerama
[20:13] <gill> desolé... panne de baterie:-(((
[20:13] <gill> vinc t est la?
[20:14] <PineHead> ompaul: 192.168.1.64
[20:14] <kri__> hi, is there a known reason, why totem and vlc crash directly after starting them by doubleclicking a video?
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> frojnd: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[20:14] <XiXaQ> pyrite1978, back in the days, wine used a very liberal license. Cedega took wine, closed it and sold it. But that makes them incompatible with GPL and other such licenses, so the last few years of work on wine cannot be used. This includes the work sponsored by google to make Adobe Photoshop run in wine for instance.
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> devius: use tab completion
[20:14] <ompaul> PineHead, so do this, in cmd.exe ping 192.168.1.64 and tell me if you get a reply
[20:14] <crdlb> devius: so, what's the problem now?
[20:14] <kri__> i dont have installed any special codecs
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> devius: sudo apt-get --purge remove xine (press tab)
[20:14] <devius> crdlb: whats after restarting X
[20:15] <Nur> hi ppls check this thats it  - take your 10 min to read something :) thank ya, u will be interested http://ohmygod-click.zaridi.to
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> crdlb: im kinda clueless with dual head stuff
[20:15] <PineHead> ompaul: Doing it from my windows box means i am pinging my windows box and i get a reply.  If i ping my linux box 192.168.1.65 from my windows box i don't get a reply.  If i ping yahoo.com from my linux box i get a reply
[20:15] <crdlb> devius: you're trying to do dual-head now?
[20:15] <devius> ActionParsnip: its installed as it appears in synaptics, should i reinstall
[20:15] <XiXaQ> pyrite1978, CrossOver Games, on the other hand, helps wine, and gets help from wine, while focusing on games in particular. You don't pay for the software. You pay for the support and the work that they do to make new games work and work better.
[20:15] <ompaul> PineHead, and now ping 192.168.1.65
[20:15] <PineHead> ompaul: i did i dont' get reply.
[20:16] <viller> damn my computer is getting old, kubuntu won't install and linux mint livecd runs too slowly. I don't know what to do. Debian's software is getting old
[20:16] <ompaul> PineHead, did you install a firewall on that machine?
[20:16] <PineHead> ompaul: Then i went to my linux box and made sure i could ping yahoo.com and i can.  So my internetwork doesn't work but both machienes can connect to the external network...
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> viller: install ubuntu then install fluxbox :)
[20:16] <PineHead> ompaul: If i did, i didn't mean to its on the default install right now havn't done much to it
[20:16] <pyrite1978> XiXaQ: Thank you,  gonna check them out r/q
[20:16] <XiXaQ> viller, what kind of hardware do you have? Xubuntu might be a good choice if you have less than 384MB RAM.
[20:16] <devius> crdlb: no man, i was trying to install the new xf86-intel-video driver due to problems, i did it through git but when i execute the command
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> viller: problem solved
[20:16] <rkpisanu> how to change the initial resolution login ?
[20:16] <ompaul> PineHead, please don't volunteer information, I will ask questions to build up a picture in my head
[20:17] <PineHead> ompaul: what default firewall is installed with ubuntu that i can edit or shut down?
[20:17] <david__> hello all
[20:17] <PineHead> sorry
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> rkpisanu: it uses the leftmost resolution in your xorg.conf
[20:17] <freddy_engels> how do you troubleshoot a "full" /tmp directory?
[20:17] <freddy_engels> It's keeping me from burning CDs and downloading files from the internet
[20:17] <rkpisanu> ActionParsnip, it is not true
[20:17] <devius> crdlb: no man, i was trying to install the new xf86-intel-video driver due to problems, i did it through git but when i execute the command    ./autogen.sh --prefix=/opt/gfx   it said  xinerama missing
[20:17] <crdlb> devius: you should have direct rendering now, so just use the builtin intel driver
[20:18] <freddy_engels> I'm thinking a process is just writing an enormous logfile, but how would I find that?
[20:18] <devius> crdlb: ???
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> rkpisanu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151192
[20:18] <devius> crdlb: no man, i was trying to install the new xf86-intel-video driver due to problems, i did it through git but when i execute the command    ./autogen.sh --prefix=/opt/gfx   it said  xinerama missing
[20:18] <vurseth> hi
[20:18] <rkpisanu>  ok i read this thread
[20:19] <ompaul> PineHead, tjhere is no default one, do this sudo iptables -L      tell me does it say anything after a line like this: target     prot opt source               destination       and a line that says Chain  (policy ACCEPT)
[20:19] <devius> crdlb: ???
[20:19] <crdlb> devius: you do not need to install a newer intel driver
[20:19] <unop> devius, you probably need the  libxinerama-dev package installed
[20:19] <unop> !info libxinerama-dev
[20:19] <Gnea> freddy_engels: find /tmp -ls
[20:19] <vurseth> #ubuntu-pt
[20:19] <devius> unop: it installed
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> freddy_engels: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_clean_/tmp
[20:19] <PineHead> ompaul: i Found the problem.  Thank you for helping me trouble shoot.  My router claimed that my new box was .65 but when i tested the other ip address my router said did not belong to me it worked and now i'm able to access the box.
[20:20] <devius> THE WHOLE PROBLEM IS MY GRAPHICS ACCELERATOR FAILS TO RENDER PROPERLY...
[20:20] <ompaul> PineHead, have fun
[20:20] <freddy_engels> Gnea: damn! massive output. Thanks! Exactly what I was looking for.
[20:20] <PineHead> Thanks
[20:20] <ompaul> !caps | devius
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> PineHead: sweet, nice to hear a success
[20:20] <crdlb> devius: in what way exactly?
[20:20] <criso> devius wtf u talkin 'bout
[20:20] <Gnea> !language | freddy_engels
[20:20] <RageMachine> I am using Wine, i would like to know if there is a  simple way to go back to an earlier version?
[20:21] <unop> !language | criso
[20:21] <criso> not really
[20:21] <ompaul> criso, be polite please
[20:21] <PineHead> Time to celebrate and go buy some cafeine :0
[20:21] <Guarulhos-SP> hello all!
[20:21] <Gnea> devius: tell you what - you pay me $20/hour, and i will take you to a private session and you can complain about your problem and yell and scream all you like.
[20:21] <criso> heh
[20:21] <devius> ubottu: if i were shouting id put an exclamation mark at the end, even if it were in lowercase, ok
[20:21] <Delano> How do I get a runaway program to stop under KDE?
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> !hi | Guarulhos-SP
[20:22] <peri> hi
[20:22] <devius> gnea: very funny
[20:22] <Gnea> devius: you clearly need to step away from the keyboard, and go chill out for awhile.
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Delano: ps -ef | grep <processname>
[20:22] <Gnea> devius: i'm serious.
[20:22] <Guarulhos-SP> thank you!
[20:22] <ompaul> devius, I am a channel op - you have abused at least one helper today, and the use of caps lock is understood to be shouting
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Delano: then kill <leftmost number
[20:22] <criso> I'm a channel op too, just not here :O
[20:23] <peri> can you tell me, how I can mount usb hdd with exp3 partitions, with the permission of writing for the normal user ?
[20:23] <Guarulhos-SP> i dont speack english, but....
[20:23] <devius> ok people im sorry
[20:23] <Gnea> peri: ext3?
[20:23] <devius> and i mean it
[20:23] <unop> peri, mount the partition -- then change the permissions on the mount point
[20:23] <Delano> ActionParsnip: I don't understand
[20:23] <devius> sorry
[20:23] <peri> sorry, yes... i can not write ...
[20:23] <ompaul> Guarulhos-SP, what is your main language
[20:23] <Guarulhos-SP> very good.
[20:23] <Guarulhos-SP> portuguese.
[20:23] <nickrud> Guarulhos-SP portugese?
[20:23] <kenkku> !br | Guarulhos-SP
[20:23] <Guarulhos-SP> yes
[20:23] <Guarulhos-SP> but
[20:24] <ompaul> !enter | Guarulhos-SP
[20:24] <peri> unop, where can i change the mount points options ?
[20:24] <Ab3L> good night
[20:24] <Grobvok> Delano: You could write in a terminal killall your_process
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> Delano: run ps -ef | grep <processname>
[20:24] <kavelot> Guarulhos-SP: qual eh sua duvida?
[20:24] <devius> gnea: im not gonna sleep until my graphics accelerator renders the way its supposed to, because its driving super damn crazy
[20:24] <Delano> ActionParsnip: done that
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> Delano: replace the processname with the name of the runaway process
[20:24] <crdlb> devius: ok, so what exactly is the problem you are currently having with your video driver?
[20:24] <Delano> ActionParsnip: done that
[20:24] <concretesledge> ello
[20:24] <concretesledge> im trying to run this JBouncer program
[20:24] <Gnea> !ops | devius
[20:24] <unop> peri, with ext2/3 there are no mount point options to regulate ownership and permissions .. you must change the ownership and permissions of the files themselves
[20:25] <Gnea> devius: you were warned about the language.
[20:25] <nickrud> gnea?
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> ok yuo'll have an output of the app. the leftmost number is the apps PID
[20:25] <concretesledge> http://www.jibble.org/jbouncer/
[20:25] <Guarulhos-SP> posso escrever em portugues um pouco?
[20:25] <kavelot> pode
[20:25] <dutch_> hey all. anybody have any ideas as to why my SB Audigy 2 doesnt seem to be giving any output under a fresh install of hardy? i went through all sound settings and configured it supposedly fine, but alas...
[20:25] <concretesledge> sudo ./run.sh is not working
[20:25] <kavelot> ou fala no meu pvt
[20:25] <FreekSh0w86> I can't get this new "Netgear Wireless-G PCI Adapter wg311" piece of crap to work. It is a PCI wireless adapter. I plugged it in after installing Ubuntu. Is there a guide for this? (I would have bought an awesome d-link but they didn't sell it)
[20:25] <Guarulhos-SP> ok
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Delano: if you type kill <that number> it will die
[20:25] <Gnea> !br | kavelot
[20:25] <nickrud> devius think super disney g rated in this channel
[20:25] <devius> gnea: ya, and?
[20:25] <Delano> Thank you ActionParsnip
[20:25] <unop> concretesledge, what's the problem? how does it not work?
[20:26] <Sonderblade> is it safe to remove the xlibs package?
[20:26] <nickrud> devius gnea was right, we expect other language, even minor stuff is not welcome
[20:26] <Gnea> devius: no, you apologized and then you clearly went and did it again.
[20:26] <Grobvok> Delano: You could just write killall <process_name>
[20:26] <ompaul> devius, I think you need an hours break, I will now enforce that, you need to be calmer to work on irc
[20:26] <unop> ActionParsnip, pidof processname
[20:26] <unop> :)
[20:26] <peri> basszuss... sorry, i made a mistake, so i know why i could not write my drive...
[20:26] <devius> nickrud: k
[20:26] <peri> thx...
[20:26] <stony_> irc://irc.abjects.net/cinefacts
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> unop: im old school
[20:26] <ompaul> devius, I will approach you in a private message
[20:26] <concretesledge> unop: sudo: ./run.sh: command not found
[20:26] <unop> ActionParsnip, i'm older school :)
[20:26] <aliby> Any idea why my SB Live 5.1 card is not outputting audio to the right speaker in Ubuntu? It works in other distros
[20:26] <Delano> ActionParsnip: I got another problem if you're interested...?
[20:27] <aliby> (ive checked the forums, added the .asoundrc, etc but still to no avail)
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Delano: shoot, what you got?
[20:27] <eirik_> i have a small issue with dual monitors. im using Nvidia driver 173.14.09. its only a problem on my main 24" (1920x1200) and im running it along with a monitor at 1280x1024. anyway, there is like an invisible horizontal line moving from bottom to top then restarting at bottom that is only apparent when the image is moving (e.g. VLC video). has anyone experienced a similar problem? the problem goes away when i disable my secondary monitor thr
[20:27] <eirik_> u nvidia-settings
[20:27] <dany> salut
[20:27] <unop> concretesledge,  sudo sh ./run.sh
[20:27] <rkpisanu> ActionParsnip, the resolution is the same, but virtual was set to high value, i fix it, thanks
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> rkpisanu: np man, was i right?
[20:27] <concretesledge> ./run.sh: 2: java: not found
[20:27] <rkpisanu> yes
[20:27] <Dazed> what is a .sh file?
[20:27] <unop> concretesledge, make sure that the file exists first tho.
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> rkpisanu: cool, just making sure my knowledge is stil straights
[20:27] <concretesledge> unop i installed java yesturday
[20:27] <FreekSh0w86> hey I think my Netgear is madwifi compatible but it's not showing up in the hardware drivers dialog because i put it in after i got my new ubuntu machine. any ideas ppl?
[20:28] <unop> Dazed, could be anything .. most probably a shell script tho
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Dazed: its whatever you want, usually a script file
[20:28] <Dazed> thx
[20:28] <Delano> ActionParsnip: I run ubuntu 8.04 with both kde and gnome packages installed... it's worked fine, but for some reason now gnome has broken... when I log in, none of my bars appear and I can't do anything... not even alt+f2 works... I tried resetting my settings, no effect... any idea what to do?
[20:28] <wols> FreekSh0w86: usb or pci?
[20:28] <unop> concretesledge, what does this return?   which java
[20:28] <rkpisanu> it is great
[20:28] <FreekSh0w86> PCI
[20:28] <wols> FreekSh0w86: lspci -nn
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Delano: not sure man, i use fluxbox.
[20:29] <shubonker> greetings
[20:29] <concretesledge> unop concretesledge@concretesledge-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo sh ./run.sh
[20:29] <concretesledge> ./run.sh: 2: java: not found
[20:29] <concretesledge> concretesledge@concretesledge-desktop:~/Desktop$
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> !hi | shubonker
[20:29] <aliby> Any idea about my 5.1 surround sound issue (no sound from right speaker) ?
[20:29] <unop> concretesledge, what does this return?   which java
[20:29] <FreekSh0w86> \http://paste.dprogramming.com/dpv1yxze
[20:29] <concretesledge> thats all it says
[20:29] <Delano> ActionParsnip: thanks anyway
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> concretesledge: do you need sudo for it?
[20:29] <Gnea> !java | concretesledge
[20:29] <unop> concretesledge, type this exact command in.   which java
[20:29] <nickrud> concretesledge he means type which java , which lets us know which java is found on the system
[20:30] <Zeroyez> are there any drivers for HD 4870?
[20:30] <wols> FreekSh0w86: it's a marvel.. IIRC you need ndiswrapper
[20:30] <unop> ty nickrud  :)
[20:30] <wols> Zeroyez: yes. fglrx newest
[20:30] <zelrikriando> yo nickrud
[20:30] <nickrud> unop sometimes I get in the loop too ;)
[20:30] <Zeroyez> ok
[20:30] <nickrud> zelrikriando good aft
[20:30] <FreekSh0w86> any ideas to install that in a 64-bit Ubuntu Hardy?
[20:30] <shubonker> any idea when final 8.10 is gonna be out?
[20:31] <concretesledge> unop, oh sorry.. it returns a blank
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> !ati | Zeroyez
[20:31] <dmsuperman> I started an application in the command line, but I didn't start it with &. Is there a way to seperate the application from the terminal so I can close the terminal window?
[20:31] <nickrud> !ibex | shubonker
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> Zeroyez: is all i got
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> shubonker: october
[20:31] <Zeroyez> okay thanks
[20:31] <wols> FreekSh0w86: install ndisgtk
[20:31] <unop> concretesledge, does not look like java is installed properly.  run this command.   sudo aptitude install sun-java6-{jre,bin}
[20:31] <nickrud> shubonker the .10 means october, they're all .4 or .10
[20:31] <shubonker> im not trying an alpha, i'll wait for final hehe
[20:31] <SwampyRepton> how does one install a deb package cause it keeps saying it cant because not logged in as root, but attempting to login as root gives invalid account/password
[20:31] <wols> dmsuperman: no
[20:31] <aliby> dmsuperman: Use screen
[20:31] <unop> !sudo | SwampyRepton
[20:31] <wols> !sudo | SwampyRepton
[20:31] <dutch_> hey all. anybody have any ideas as to why my SB Audigy 2 doesnt seem to be giving any output under a fresh install of hardy? i went through all sound settings and configured it supposedly fine, but alas...
[20:31] <Dazed> how do i execute a .sh?
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> SwampyRepton: sudo dpkg -i <deb file>
[20:31] <BelfastBoy> hi guys i just got this little webbook today running ubuntu of course, everything seems sweet except i cant get video of any format to work on it, sound comes through but no picture... can any1 help?
[20:32] <FreekSh0w86> Ok I got ndisgtk now what do i do
[20:32] <Devlon> !ubuntu | Devlon
[20:32] <aliby> Dazed: chmod filename +x
[20:32] <Seveas> Dazed, firing squad?
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> Dazed: yuo need to make sure its chmodded to u+x
[20:32] <unop> Dazed, make it executable. then call it by name
[20:32] <wols> Dazed: you make it executable and then run it normally
[20:32] <Devlon> !alternate | devlon
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> Dazed: then just ./<script name>
[20:32] <atha> tha date/time in the system is correct but on the screen it still shows the wrong one, how do i fix this?
[20:32] <wols> atha: resart/reload the screen
[20:32] <freddy_engels> Gnea: Couldn't I just put rm -fr /tmp/* in my /etc/init.d/sysklogd file to cleanup /tmp?
[20:32] <atha> how i do that?
[20:32] <Seveas> freddy_engels, bad idea :)
[20:33] <unop> freddy_engels, /tmp is cleaned out automatically on boot anyway
[20:33] <wols> freddy_engels: why? /tmp is cleaned on bootup
[20:33] <atha> log out?
[20:33] <Gnea> freddy_engels: no, you'd break a lot of GUI functionality and overall system stability would come crumbling down
[20:33] <freddy_engels> When I try downloading something from the internet or burning a disc, it always tells me /tmp is full
[20:33] <rkpisanu> is it possible to run a program at startup with user privilege and not with root privilege ?
[20:33] <freddy_engels> and it fills really quicly
[20:33] <concretesledge> thanks
[20:34] <unop> !session
[20:34] <aliby> Any idea why my SB Live 5.1 card is not outputting audio to the right speaker in Ubuntu? It works in other distros
[20:34] <Gnea> freddy_engels: this might help a bit.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168061
[20:34] <unop> rkpisanu, ^^
[20:34] <bullgard4> "~$ ls -a" prints a normal file list which is appended by another 2 lines: "[1]+  Stopped   w3m http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xfo; nts-base." What causes theses two additional lines?
[20:34] <FreekSh0w86> Ugh if I made the laws of the land, it would be illegal to shove closed-source wireless drivers all over the market. and very illegal to require exe's to get raw driver files.
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> rkpisanu: i kde i know, not gnome though
[20:34] <eax> Hi :) I just installed Anjuta using synaptic and it's nothing like the synaptic I'm used to (from Feisty) it doesn't even look like an IDE anymore. Anyone know any alternatives/help?
[20:34] <unop> bullgard4, you had a job in the background that finished executing -- bash is just notifying you about that
[20:35] <pjvandehaar> how do i edit a text file with root privileges?
[20:35] <nickrud> freddy_engels do you have a separate /tmp partition? Or is your / partition simply full?
[20:35] <martin77> hello. can somebody explain me how to change the display refresh rate? i just installed ubuntu
[20:35] <Zeroyez> uh crap I installed Catalyst Control Center from AMD site and I have no idea how to remove it
[20:35] <unop> pjvandehaar, sudo $EDITOR /path/to/file
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> pjvandehaar: gksu gedit /text/file
[20:35] <Zeroyez> they didn't put instructions on their site :(
[20:35] <eax> pjvandehaar: sudo gedit *filename*
[20:35] <freddy_engels> nickrud: My / partition is full because of /tmp
[20:35] <bXi> does someone know how to change sda3 to sda1 ?
[20:35] <bXi> (this partition is the only one on the disk and its physically at the start of the disk)
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> unop: not sudo for gui apps bro
[20:35] <unop> eax, never sudo with gedit
[20:35] <shubonker> ﻿pjvandehaar, u can do sudo nautilus which gives u full priviilege like in windows explorer
[20:35] <Robojoint> I've installed CCSM & Avant. Is there a way yo show avant on all workspaces except one
[20:35] <BelfastBoy> any1 got an answer to my question?
[20:35] <Grobvok> unop: Why not?
[20:35] <unop> ActionParsnip, i never mentioned a gui app's name :)
[20:35] <eax> unop: Why not?
[20:36] <crdlb> Robojoint: no
[20:36] <aliby> actually its my sb live wont output any audio on the right side. Any thoughts?
[20:36] <FreekSh0w86> Does anyone have a link for the raw Windows driver files to this device: "04:06.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w8335 [Libertas] 802.11b/g Wireless [11ab:1faa] (rev 03)" so I could put it in ndiswrapper?
[20:36] <aliby> (right front or right rear)
[20:36] <unop> !gksudo | eax , Grobvok
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> unop: $EDITOR may = gedit
[20:36] <nickrud> freddy_engels what exactly is eating the space? I mean, my tmp usually has maybe a few hundred megs
[20:36] <Dazed> when i try to chmod the file to +x it says invalid mode
[20:36] <eax> unop: Okay thanks :)
[20:36] <Robojoint> thanks crdlb
[20:37] <freddy_engels> Can I paste df output in here, or should I use pastebin?
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Dazed: chmod u+x <file>
[20:37] <BelfastBoy> hi guys i just got this little webbook today running ubuntu of course, everything seems sweet except i cant get video of any format to work on it, sound comes through but no picture... can any1 help?
[20:37] <unop> ActionParsnip, hmm, it shouldn't be
[20:37] <Dazed> thx
[20:37] <crdlb> freddy_engels: pastebin
[20:37] <nickrud> freddy_engels pastebin
[20:37] <nickrud> freddy_engels rule of thumb: two lines is one line too many ;)
[20:37] <shubonker> ﻿BelfastBoy, try VLC player?
[20:37] <rkpisanu> i want to run xbindkeys with my user asdf with my config file at startup
[20:38] <BelfastBoy> tried it shubonker
[20:38] <Dazed> yay its working
[20:38] <eax> Hi :) I just installed Anjuta using synaptic and it's nothing like the synaptic I'm used to (from Feisty) it doesn't even look like an IDE anymore. Anyone know any alternatives/help?
[20:38] <BelfastBoy> vid isnt even showin on hardware test
[20:38] <bullgard4> unop: I was using an xterm. When using a GNOME terminal, I can stop a job in the background by running 'exit'. What can I do to get rid of these 2 additional lines in a xterm?
[20:38] <shubonker> ﻿BelfastBoy, have you installed gstreamer ffmpeg video plugin ?
[20:39] <Devlon> Whats the best course of action to get xubuntu on my machine, when the cd gives the error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/35951/  Cd pass's the check, hard drives are good[multiple hard drives, tried] Ram passed with flying colors and the cd-rom is fine.  What other way can i get xubuntu on my machine......i'm using a live cd right now, and dont have any other operating systems discs?
[20:39] <pjvandehaar> eax: thanks, i used that and no opera irc has all notifications in small text!
[20:39] <BelfastBoy> dunno
[20:39] <pjvandehaar> *now
[20:39] <freddy_engels> http://paste.ubuntu.com/35954/
[20:39] <BelfastBoy> ill check
[20:39] <jazzkutya> !vnc
[20:39] <concretesledge> i dont get it, its not working as a proxy
[20:39] <unop> bullgard4, do you get those two lines all the time??
[20:39] <ioannis> Hello, iam new to linux, can somebody help me to run flash ? i have installed flashplugin-nonfree & ubuntu-restricted-extras & libflashsupport but the screen freeze after 2secounds without sound and sometimes the browser even close itself when i visit youtube
[20:40] <eax> Hi :) I just installed Anjuta using synaptic and it's nothing like the Anjuta I'm used to (from Feisty) it doesn't even look like an IDE anymore. Anyone know any alternatives/help?
[20:40] <eax> pjvandehaar: Come again??
[20:40] <Devlon> how did you install flash ioannis?
[20:40] <shubonker> wahts anjuta?
[20:40] <bullgard4> unop: I just repeated the ls -a command, and now those two lines did not appear any more.
[20:40] <freddy_engels> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com/35954/
[20:40] <dutch_> can someone point me in the right direction to getting sound working on a mostly fresh install of hardy? i have tried everything in my knowledge to fix it
[20:40] <ioannis> Devlon, synap
[20:40] <crdlb> bullgard4: that's simply coming from a previous task
[20:40] <sexcopter> hi, is there a command for printing the description for a package, like what you would see in synaptic?
[20:40] <Grobvok> shubonker: It's a C++ IDE.
[20:41] <erUSUL> sexcopter: apt-cache show package
[20:41] <unop> sexcopter, apt-cache show packagename
[20:41] <bullgard4> crdlb: Thank you for explaining.
[20:41] <nickrud> freddy_engels I see only 59mb free, what's that showing immediately after a boot?
[20:41] <nickrud> freddy_engels on sda1 that is
[20:41] <sexcopter> erUSUL: unop: thanks
[20:41] <Devlon> say amd64 bit or X86?
[20:42] <freddy_engels> Well, I rebooted about 12 hours ago...and I was sleeping for about 8 of them and nobody else was using the computer.
[20:42] <freddy_engels> Although, I'm not sure what it says immediatley after booting.
[20:42] <dorothy_gale> hi all, does anyone know how to apply icon themes?
[20:42] <nickrud> freddy_engels du -sh /tmp , see how much it's using right now
[20:42] <Devlon> ﻿Whats the best course of action to get xubuntu on my machine, when the cd gives the error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/35951/  Cd pass's the check, hard drives are good[multiple hard drives, tried] Ram passed with flying colors and the cd-rom is fine.  What other way can i get xubuntu on my machine......i'm using a live cd right now, and dont have any other operating systems discs?
[20:42] <eax> pjvandehaar: Come again??
[20:43] <eax> Hi :) I just installed Anjuta using synaptic and it's nothing like the Anjuta I'm used to (from Feisty) it doesn't even look like an IDE anymore. Anyone know any alternatives/help?
[20:43] <freddy_engels> nickrud: 44K
[20:43] <nickrud> freddy_engels then the problem is not tmp, it's that your home partition is full.
[20:43] <wols> Devlon: debootstrap
[20:43] <wols> Devlon: or alternate ubuntu cd
[20:44] <Devlon> !debootstrap | Devlon
[20:44] <freddy_engels> nickrud: My home partition is mounted on /dev/sda2 and is only 33% full
[20:44] <dorothy_gale> hi all, need some eye candy help...
[20:44] <nickrud> freddy_engels sorry, I meant the / (root) partition.
[20:44] <rkpisanu> it works...thanks guys
[20:44] <freddy_engels> nickrud: Should I increase / partition size with gparted?
[20:44] <neofax> hello everyone!
[20:44] <nickrud> freddy_engels yes.
[20:45] <nickrud> freddy_engels when you have some time to twiddle your fingers, of course ;)
[20:45] <freddy_engels> nickrud: What is an approprate size for / partition? When I installed ubuntu, I was under the impression that 5G was more than enough...
[20:45] <nickrud> freddy_engels I never use less than 8, and normally 12. I like lots of room for expansion
[20:46] <Gin> why can't flash and my media player use my soundcard at the same time?
[20:46] <Dazed> my friend just installed ubuntu and its not detecting his connection
[20:46] <Dazed> what should he do?
[20:46] <dorothy_gale> hi all, does anyone know how to apply icon themes?
[20:47] <freddy_engels> nickrud: Thanks!
[20:47] <neofax> Dazed: What kind of connection does he have?
[20:47] <freddy_engels> dazed: his connection to the internet?
[20:47] <Dazed> cable i think
[20:47] <neofax> dorothy_gale: If in GNOME.  Go to System-->Preferences-->Appearance
[20:48] <Dazed> i dunno tho
[20:48] <jazzkutya> Ive enabled remote desktop, checked that not only local connectionst are allowed, but connecting from a winxp using realvnc fails
[20:48] <freddy_engels> dazed: Is he using wireless or ethernet?
[20:48] <dorothy_gale> hi neofax yes I am using GNOME however....
[20:48] <neofax> Dazed: Does his pc connect to a router or directly to the modem?
[20:48] <Dazed> possibly wireless
[20:48] <dorothy_gale> I don't see a place to apply icon themes
[20:48] <bullgard4> [Samba] I tried to copy 3 files in a LAN from Ubuntu 8.04 computer 1 to Ubuntu 8.04 computer 2 using Nautilus. The access rights are detlef/detlef. I can see the 3 files in Nautilus 2 but with no access rights displayed. When trying to copy them from the shared folder to another folder, I obtain: "Error while copying <filename>. There was an error... Show more details: Permission denied." How to get rid of this error?
[20:48] <ooboontoo> hello everyone
[20:48] <randal> HOW DO YOU INstall the richedit30 update
[20:48] <randal> HOW DO YOU INstall the richedit30 update
[20:48] <randal> HOW DO YOU INstall the richedit30 update
[20:48] <jazzkutya> it listens on :::5900 so it should accept connection from everywhere, including ipv4 addresses
[20:48] <ooboontoo> randal: please shut up
[20:49] <randal> HOW DO YOU INstall the richedit30 update
[20:49] <freddy_engels> dazed: Tell him to connect to the internet using an ethernet cable and download the drivers he needs to use his wifi card if it at all possible
[20:49] <lina_> I have a question. When i tried to install the graphic driver that i downloaded from Nvidias homepage (geforce 8 series) it gave me an error saying that gcc was not installed or not pointing to 'cc'.. how do I solve this issue? been googling the last 40 min to get it working
[20:49] <jazzkutya> and unfordunately on winxp i do not have a good telnet client to test with
[20:49] <justin_> does ubuntu have widgets?
[20:49] <Dazed> durr
[20:49] <randal> HOW DO YOU INstall the richedit30 update
[20:49] <pjvandehaar> someone please kick randal
[20:49] <Dazed> hes like computer illiterate
[20:49] <randal>  what
[20:49] <randal> why
[20:49] <Gin> why can't flash and my media player use my soundcard at the same time? any fix?
[20:49] <Dazed> i just wanted him to see how pretty compiz was
[20:49] <Dazed> i figured ubuntu was moron-friendly enough
[20:49] <freddy_engels> dazed: He can't plug a cable into the wall...?
[20:49] <randal> can some one plz tell me how to install the richedit30 update
[20:49] <Dazed> no
[20:50] <ooboontoo> randal: because you are flooding the channel so no one is going to help you please leave
[20:50] <jazzkutya> telnetting to it works
[20:50] <randal> tok sorry for flooding can you plz help me
[20:50] <ooboontoo> no
[20:50] <randal> why not
[20:50] <randal> plz
[20:50] <Albaraha> randal, did google it?
[20:50] <randal> yes i did
[20:50] <ooboontoo> ﻿﻿could anyone please help me with setting up my ATI graphics card with tv-out support on ubuntu - i have kinda messed up my xorg.conf
[20:51] <randal> i cant figure it out
[20:51] <Albaraha> did you*
[20:51] <Albaraha> what page did you get?
[20:51] <neofax> dorothy_gale: In Appearances go to the Theme tab and at the bottom click on the install button
[20:51] <randal> im in wine reviews
[20:51] <Dazed> he said he is on wireless
[20:51] <Grobvok> Is there an application that comes preinstalled which can convert mp3 in ogg?
[20:51] <randal> im updating this because i nee dit for wine
[20:51] <aliby> My soundblaster live 5.1 wont output any audio on the right side (right front or right rear speaker). Any thoughts?
[20:52] <lina_> I have a question. When i tried to install the graphic driver that i downloaded from Nvidias homepage (geforce 8 series) it gave me an error saying that gcc was not installed or not pointing to 'cc'.. how do I solve this issue? been googling the last 40 min to get it working
[20:52] <freddy_engels> dazed: Then his problem is most likely drivers. Connecting with ethernet is his best bet.
[20:52] <dudus> Grobvok: in short no. But you can easily install one
[20:52] <Dazed> can i send him the drivers somehow
[20:52] <Dazed> will his computer tell him which ones he needs somehow
[20:52] <neofax> ooboontoo: Just delete the xorg.conf file if you are running gutsy or higher.  Xorg does not need a xorg.conf file and will make do with basic settings.  Then use the fglrx control panel to setup what you want.
[20:52] <freddy_engels> dazed: do you know what kind of card he has?
[20:52] <Dazed> no
[20:53] <freddy_engels> dazed: then probably not
[20:53] <Dazed> bleh
[20:53] <Albaraha> randal, did you write the details here or just "help me" message?
[20:53] <Dazed> oh well
[20:53] <ooboontoo> ﻿neofax: ill give it a try, thanks
[20:53] <dorothy_gale> neofax: I am trying to use this theme
[20:53] <dorothy_gale> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/black-white+2+Style?content=72619
[20:53] <FreekSh0w86> Someone help... I don't know how to get these drivers for Netgear 311WG (rev3... yuck) because Wine cannot successfully run the setup.exe and there is no archive of it
[20:54] <Exstasy69> aa
[20:54] <Exstasy69> You will make m0ney over Internet??
[20:54] <FreekSh0w86> If anyone has a direct extracted zip of the raw driver files (i don't know the extension) that would be helpful.
[20:54] <novacrust> lol
[20:55] <ooboontoo> neofax: i dont know if i have ﻿fglrx?
[20:55] <FreekSh0w86> How do you people manage to get ndiswrapper to do anything when there are nothing but exe files for the drivers? I envy my friend, whose broadcom at least contained the correct files not some ridiculous exe that (most likely intentionally) breaks with Wine.
[20:55] <dorothy_gale> can anyone help me install this icon theme? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/black-white+2+Style?content=72619
[20:56] <lina_> no one that have a solution to my problem? or some pointers in the right direction
[20:56] <pjvandehaar> freeksh0: dont use exe
[20:56] <pjvandehaar> freeksh0: you need a .inf, i think
[20:56] <FreekSh0w86> I do not want to use exe. But the idiots at Netgear are too stupid to give me a proper inf file it seems.
[20:57] <a100973> lol
[20:57] <pjvandehaar> freeksh0: i dont think using exe's through wine can work unless you are an extremely good programmer
[20:57] <Zoki> sta ima
[20:57] <Albaraha> lina_, no manual on Nvidia site?
[20:57] <Gnea> dorothy_gale: were you able to get it to download?
[20:57] <FreekSh0w86> Netgear 311WG revision 3 is what I'm fighting against. If anyone has their inf for that device I could use it.
[20:57] <Zoki> yes
[20:57] <dorothy_gale> Gnea: yep, I gots it
[20:58] <Zoki>  :p
[20:58] <KrimZon> dorothy_gale: if it contains a single folder, and that folder contains folders called 16x16 or 24x24 or something like that, extract the archive to ~/.icons/
[20:58] <unop> FreekSh0w86, have you searched driverguide.com for your card's drivers?
[20:59] <Leefmc> Question: What is the best screenlet type app out there? I am not liking Screenlets that much, as multiple problems have already shown and i just started using it.. it seems to scream poorly programmed heh. Any opinions on a better option?
[20:59] <FreekSh0w86> I found this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3
[20:59] <FreekSh0w86> maybe that will work
[21:00] <unop> FreekSh0w86, you could also try extracting the contents of the .exe (if it is a self-extracting executable) using winzip/cabextract
[21:00] <pjvandehaar> freeksh0:sounds like you have a more obscure card than i do...
[21:00] <neofax> dorothy_gale: Once you have the zip file on your hdd. Do what I said and go to System-->Appearance-->Install button-->click on zip file and it will install and ask if you want that theme.
[21:00] <cedriczg> Hi people
[21:01] <bullgard4> [Samba] I tried to copy 3 files in a LAN from Ubuntu 8.04 computer 1 to Ubuntu 8.04 computer 2 using Nautilus. The access rights are detlef/detlef. I can see the 3 files in Nautilus 2 but with no access rights displayed. When trying to copy them from the shared folder to another folder, I obtain: "Error while copying <filename>. There was an error... Show more details: Permission denied." How to get rid of this error?
[21:01] <cedriczg> I have a question regarding alacarte
[21:01] <howlingmadhowie> quick question. does anybody know where the setting is stored for compiz/metacity? i'm trying to help someone with ubuntu, but he can only log in with failsafe gnome and i think it's because compiz isn't properly configured
[21:01] <dorothy_gale> neofax that's not working as it's an icon theme.... just icons
[21:01] <Greyhound-> has anyone here tried connecting to a network access point through bluetooth in ubuntu?
[21:01] <aliby> I'm using an ALSA setup with a 5.1 speaker system. Every channel except my front right works. Anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[21:01] <Greyhound-> it works just fine when connecting from windows, but in ubuntu it keeps disconnecting
[21:01] <cedriczg> Does anyone get a duplicate item in the menu item when you move a shortcut from alacarte to a different folder?
[21:01] <lina> how to I add 'cc' in gcc path?
[21:02] <dorothy_gale> KrimZon: what's that full path?
[21:02] <cedriczg> And, is there a way to edit the menu item within command line?
[21:02] <neofax> FreekSh0w86: Here is what you do.  Run the exe in Wine, while monitoring the wine directories temp folder.  While the exe is running a folder will open in the temp directory.  Copy this to /tmp in linux.  Inside this folder should be your .inf file.
[21:02] <KrimZon> /home/<yourusername>/.icons/
[21:02] <cedriczg> I have been surfing to search on this and got nowhere yet
[21:02] <coffinzm> is there a way to automatically launch an application as always on top, rather than having to select it every time the program starts?
[21:02] <howlingmadhowie> lina: i don't understand. usually cc is a soft link to gcc in /usr/bin
[21:02] <Albaraha> lina, $ ls -al /usr/bin/cc
[21:02] <Albaraha> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2008-05-30 19:50 /usr/bin/cc -> /etc/alternatives/cc
[21:02] <NemesisD> anyone know how to use the VIVO feature on an nvidia video card to get s-video in? Not including rivatv as the project is abandoned and doesn't work.
[21:02] <cedriczg> that's why I am here asking you guys
[21:03] <KrimZon> dorothy_gale: i downloaded it and it seems there's another archive inside it that you have to open
[21:03] <neofax> dorothy_gale: Strange as I just installed a different icon theme just now using the method I just told you.  You do not unzip the file.
[21:03] <savedjuli> hola
[21:04] <dorothy_gale> KrimZon: yeah, I have them all unzipped just can't find the /home/<yourusername>/.icons/ path.. it aint there
[21:04] <cedriczg> howlingmadhowie, maybe I am wrong. But can't you edit compiz settings using gconf-editor command?
[21:04] <cedriczg> savedjuli, hola
[21:04] <timboy> I need help setting up locales on my ubuntu server anyone familiar with locales?
[21:04] <lina> Albaraha, and thats all i have to do_
[21:04] <lina> ?
[21:04] <aliby> I'm using an ALSA setup with a 5.1 speaker system. Every channel except my front right works. Anyone have any idea how to fix this?
[21:04] <KrimZon> what folders do you see in /home/ ?
[21:05] <Albaraha> that link is set by Ubuntu, lina
[21:05] <cedriczg> So noone know how to edit menu items within command line?
[21:05] <Albaraha> you don't need to set it
[21:05] <neofax> lina: Do you have gcc even installed?
[21:05] <Grobvok> aliby: type alsamixer in a terminal and set everything on high.
[21:06] <dorothy_gale> KrimZon: neofax
[21:06] <Grobvok> aliby: Or as high as you want.
[21:06] <aliby> Grobvok everything is on high currently and still no sound
[21:06] <Dazed> is there plugins for compiz with like more animations?
[21:06] <dorothy_gale> that worked, I got it in there
[21:06] <neofax> lina: If not, do sudo aptitude update, then sudo aptitude install gcc
[21:06] <KrimZon> it'll be /home/neofax/.icons/
[21:06] <crimsun> aliby: pastebin your alsa-info.sh output
[21:06] <lina> neofax, i followed some guides to install it so i guess so... the nvidia driver installer says that cc is not in my path
[21:06] <billgoldberg> hi
[21:06] <crimsun> aliby: the alsa-info.sh url is on the DebuggingSoundProblems wiki
[21:06] <aliby> thanks
[21:06] <crimsun> aliby: (i.e., tell me the url that script generates)
[21:06] <KrimZon> oh, you have to press ctrl-h to see .icons - folders starting with . are hidden by default
[21:07] <neofax> Dazed: Yes, all of compiz is basically plugins with the main core that runs the plugins.
[21:07] <aliby> crimsun yep i know :)
[21:07] <KrimZon> ctrl-h toggles between hidden and not
[21:07] <Dazed> where can i find more?
[21:07] <metheon> thats what she said
[21:07] <Greyhound-> has anyone tried connecting to PAN through bluetooth?
[21:07] <Dazed> haha
[21:07] <FreekSh0w86> Hi everyone. I followed all the instructions on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3 but iwconfig does not show a wireless anything. I run Ubuntu Hardy 64-bit...
[21:08] <FreekSh0w86> The hardware is detected as present though
[21:08] <FreekSh0w86> And I tried restarting the system.
[21:08] <neofax> lina: Do sudo update-alternatives --list cc
[21:08] <cedriczg> FreekSh0w86, try getting the last updates for your system
[21:08] <Dazed> i really like the burn and beam up animations
[21:08] <FreekSh0w86> ?
[21:08] <howlingmadhowie> cedriczg: does that run on a terminal? doesn't matter, i've found it: $HOME/.gconf/desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager/%gconf.xml
[21:08] <cedriczg> FreekSh0w86, my wireless got fixed after updating my system
[21:08] <lina> neofax, sudo aptitude install gcc says 1 not updated
[21:08] <Dazed> i would rather just minimize my windows than play cod4
[21:08] <FreekSh0w86> I already have the latest updated
[21:09] <neofax> Dazed: You will need to install from the ppa for svn versions with bad, ugly and such
[21:09] <cedriczg> howlingmadhowie, no. it runs a program. gconf-editor
[21:09] <Gin> flash is still pain in the ass
[21:09] <billgoldberg> kk
[21:09] <neofax> lina: What is the one file not updated?
[21:09] <Dazed> i dont know what that means btw neo
[21:09] <cedriczg> howlingmadhowie, can you help me editing the menu items?
[21:10] <lina> neofax, i have no idea.. not that good linux user :P
[21:10] <howlingmadhowie> cedriczg: editing menu items? isn't there a graphical thing to do that?
[21:10] <cedriczg> howlingmadhowie, I want to edit the menu item within command line
[21:10] <howlingmadhowie> cedriczg: that will be in $HOME/.gconf or similar
[21:10] <cedriczg> howlingmadhowie, Because when I move a shortcut within alacarte editor I get duplicate items
[21:11] <Chef_Ramsey> SHUT THE HELL UP!
[21:11] <cedriczg> howlingmadhowie, yes, the alacarte program is graphical, but I don't know why it duplicates the entries if I move the items
[21:11] <aliby> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/1097260
[21:11] <neofax> Dazed: Apt uses a list of sources to keep your system up to date and to also install other software.  In ubuntu ppa is a apt repo for not so stable software.  Go to google and type in ubuntu compiz ppa and it should have info on the website how to set it up.
[21:11] <howlingmadhowie> cedriczg: strange. it must be broken :) i'll see if i can find the file it edits...
[21:11] <Sonderblade> what is a transition package?
[21:12] <FreekSh0w86> Does ndiswrapper work at all on Ubuntu 64-bit?
[21:12] <Dazed> sweet
[21:12] <neofax> lina: do sudo aptitude dist-upgrade and this will update the remaining file.
[21:12] <cedriczg> I think the .gconf may be the directory to change the menu items
[21:12] <Dazed> so this normal version of compiz doesnt accept plugins or something?
[21:12] <Chef_Ramsey> i cant to chef ramsey .. because i love yiu to much :-(
[21:12] <neofax> Sonderblade: A tranistion package is one that is used to move you from a old style package to the newer version.
[21:13] <cedriczg> howlingmadhowie, can you try to reproduce the bug/issue I have?
[21:13] <cedriczg> howlingmadhowie, just go to System > preferences > main menu
[21:13] <cedriczg> howlingmadhowie, and then create a new folder
[21:13] <cedriczg> howlingmadhowie, and move an icon to that folder
[21:13] <neofax> Dazed: It does, but like firefox 2 plugins cannot be ran in Firefox 3(don't flame, I know they can with a hack), so is compiz.
[21:13] <Sonderblade> neofax: can i safely remove them?
[21:13] <LinuxGhost> hi
[21:13] <lina> neofax, now all updated... was wasn't gcc tho
[21:14] <iGama> Hy all! Have a problem, I used to have a ssh connection with no password, using Keys, I user ssh-keygen to create it and then ssh-copy-id -i /root/.ssh/id_rsa.pub root@client-1 to send it to the client. but now it asks for the password again, can't get it to login automaticly again :( any ideias?
[21:14] <Dazed> ahh
[21:14] <cwillu> any good way to two-way sync two evolution calendars?
[21:14] <neofax> Sonderblade: If you have moved to the newer version, just do sudo aptitude autoremove
[21:14] <Dazed> is there no good ones for this version or something? ;)
[21:14] <howlingmadhowie> cedriczg: at the moment everything works fine on my computer, so i'd hate to break anything
[21:14] <neofax> lina: Make sure you have build-essential as well.
[21:14] <mernil> For the  first 6:th of radom chatters i will maaake it a fantastic evening .. as for you others..
[21:14] <crimsun> aliby: sec
[21:15] <cdecarlo_> hi, I'm using gutsy and I want a program to start once I login, how do I do that?
[21:15] <aliby> Thanks crimsun
[21:15] <aliby> Appreciate it
[21:15] <TiredWolf> !startup | cdecarlo
[21:15] <neofax> Dazed: Open up synaptic and search for compiz.  Select all of the files that deal with plugins and it will give you the good/bad and ugly.
[21:15] <Sonderblade> neofax: that doesnt remove the packages
[21:15] <lina> neofax, and i do that how? i suck i know
[21:15] <Dazed> ahhh
[21:15] <pinnerup> When I'm in a shell and see a file of a given type (say .avi or .pdf), how do I execute/view the file using the default viewer association? That is, is there a command I can issue that works the same as double clicking the file in nautilus?
[21:15] <cmr> my box was killed by a power surge. i've determined that the motherboard needs to be replaced. can anyone point me to a list of recommendations for a C2D chipsets that work well with 8.04?
[21:15] <neofax> Sonderblade: What package do you want installed specifically.
[21:16] <TiredWolf> pinnerup: yes, "gnome-open" if memory helps me
[21:16] <neofax> lina: sudo aptitude install build-essentials
[21:16] <Kenthree> When does the software in the repositories (such as Transmission) get updated to the latest version?
[21:16] <rconan> lina, or rather build-essential
[21:16] <aliby> crimsun just so you know: I have tried the speakers on different hardware and a different OS and they check out/work just fine
[21:16] <TiredWolf> Kenthree: never
[21:16] <mernil> now, why is just the elite here?   neofax, Sonderblade and lina Dazed .. Im stunned.. JUST SKUT THE FUCKING KITCHEN DOWN .. I WANT TO  TAAAAALK TO THE KERNEL DEVELOPER!
[21:16] <pinnerup> TiredWolf: That did it! Thanks a bunch :)
[21:17] <TiredWolf> Kenthree: once a version of Ubuntu is released, it's released. all that you get are security fixes and fixes to very serious bugs. otherwise, you wait for the next release, or, in certain cases, you can have (or request) a backport
[21:17] <TiredWolf> !backports > Kenthree
[21:17] <lina> neofax, nothing happened :/
[21:17] <Sonderblade> neofax: i just want to know if it is safe to remove packages with "transitional" in the description
[21:17] <neofax> Sonderblade: Yes
[21:17] <rconan> Sonderblade, pretty much is
[21:17] <lina> neofax, nothing updated or installed
[21:17] <TiredWolf> Sonderblade: they're usually metapackages so in that case yes
[21:18] <neofax> lina: Sorry it should have been:  sudo aptitude install build-essential
[21:18] <henry> sexy time girls?
[21:18] <Dazed> i uninstalled firefox from wine but firefox is still in wine>programs
[21:18] <aliby> henry: no
[21:18] <TiredWolf> !ops | henry
[21:18] <m_newton> loligager
[21:18] <lina> neofax, tried it :P nothing new
[21:18] <m_newton> hey guys
[21:18] <TiredWolf> ompaul: that doesn't seem like a good ide
[21:18] <Guest53115> girls?
[21:18] <m_newton> how do i list the system process
[21:18] <aliby> ...
[21:19] <Sonderblade> then why are transitional packages installed/not removed automatically if they are useless? :)
[21:19] <Guest53115> girls?
[21:19] <neofax> lina: How about this: sudo update-alternatives --list cc
[21:19] <Clofan> Is there an ISO I  can download for the Netbook Remix version of ubunut?
[21:19] <m_newton> hello, what is a good task manager
[21:19] <neofax> Sonderblade: You are the administrator of your system.
[21:19] <Fructose> How do you scroll up in a non-GUI terminal? (e.g. if something crashes before the login screen loads)
[21:19] <ompaul> TiredWolf, twice in a week :-/
[21:19] <TiredWolf> Sonderblade: well they aren't useless, they're very useful during updates, to let you smoothly upgrade when package names change. they're not removed due to the way APT works, but hey, they're not supposed to *hurt* either if left installed
[21:20] <goat> after deleting my xorg.conf file, i cannot set my resolution higher then 800x600. i have a radeon 9200 and i need tv-out to work - could anyone please help me?
[21:20] <LinuxGhost1> ?
[21:20] <neofax> Fructose: Shift+PageUp
[21:20] <lina> neofax, just jumps to a new row
[21:20] <goat> neofax, you helped me before...
[21:20] <cmr> well, alright, i'm going to fry's, will try something with a P45 chipset, wish me luck
[21:20] <cmr> adios
[21:20] <FreekSh0w86> I hate life. I finally found a 64-bit Windows driver for ndiswrapper and still no wireless shows up.
[21:20] <Sonderblade> TiredWolf: they take disk space
[21:20] <TiredWolf> Sonderblade: a couple of bytes.
[21:20] <FreekSh0w86> I hope Marvell chip manufacturers suffer a slow and very painful death.
[21:21] <cedriczg> howlingmadhowie, , and check if the item is duplicated. Thanks in advance
[21:21] <Leefmc> Question: Anyone know where Screenlets stores the source? I need to hack/fix a widget, but i can't find it heh (their not under ~/.screenlets)
[21:21] <c0ld_fuZi0n> anyone know whats going on with google?
[21:21] <cedriczg> howlingmadhowie, I am back
[21:21] <Blacklight> Leefmc, its easy : locate screenlets
[21:22] <Leefmc> Blacklight: Thats a command i assume?
[21:22] <Blacklight> Leefmc, you might want to sudo updatedb first
[21:22] <howlingmadhowie> cedriczg: i'm sort of getting somewhere
[21:22] <Blacklight> Leefmc, indeed
[21:22] <unop> Leefmc, do you mean the source code?
[21:22] <Leefmc> unop: The source code of a widget, yes
[21:22] <c0ld_fuZi0n> google appears to be down at the moment. also gmail, youtube adsense
[21:22] <Llewxam> hey guys. got a question. is pulse audio really necessary to have on the system? been having some sound issues and now i can't hear the system sounds at all.
[21:22] <goat> if anyone could help me i would really appreciate it? :(
[21:22] <crimsun> aliby: amixer set 'Sigmatel 4-Speaker Stereo' unmute && amixer set 'Sigmatel Surround' 80%,unmute,80%,unmute
[21:23] <howlingmadhowie> cedriczg: $HOME/.gconf/apps/panel/objects/menu_bar_screen0/%gconf.xml is interesting
[21:23] <TiredWolf> c0ld_fuZi0n: i suggest you don't say nonsense.
[21:23] <Blacklight> that should find screenlets, maybe not the widgets though
[21:23] <c0ld_fuZi0n> TiredWolf, try it
[21:23] <kindofabuzz> my gmail and google works
[21:23] <c0ld_fuZi0n> i'm serious
[21:23] <goat> c0ld_fuZi0n, my google is fine
[21:23] <crimsun> Llewxam: it's not completely necessary, no
[21:23] <TiredWolf> c0ld_fuZi0n: and so am i.
[21:23] <crimsun> Llewxam: disabling it disables features, of course
[21:23] <Llewxam> crimsun: what kind of features?
[21:23] <Leefmc> Blacklight: Am i missing something? That appears to just be an executanle for Screenlets
[21:23] <c0ld_fuZi0n> ive tried everything. nothing from google works at my end...:|
[21:23] <pyrite1978> Any idea why my video playback (anyfile type) is verry slow.. like slow motion , and there is no sound?
[21:24] <neofax> goat: Use this how-to from gentoo.  http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_TV-Out
[21:24] <crimsun> Leefmc: more intuitive configuration of streaming music between hosts, per-stream volume control, better resampling
[21:24] <sproots> hmm what is a good channel for lamp help, I have everything installed but it only works for my local ip 127.0.0.1
[21:24] <anilomkar> Hi Guys, My sony vaio laptop's fn keys are not working, can anybody help me out....
[21:24] <Gin> pyrite1978, probably something is eating your cpu in the background
[21:24] <Blacklight> Leefmc, there probably is a better way of doing it.
[21:24] <neofax> lina: Does the new row have any text?
[21:24] <goat> neofax, my resolution cant go higher then 800x600, i need to fix that first
[21:24] <pyrite1978> Gin:  cpu use is idle
[21:25] <lina> neofax, yeah the lina@lina part
[21:25] <Blacklight> use locate with the name of the widget
[21:25] <Leefmc> Blacklight: "better"? Im assuming the way you suggested works though doesn't it?
[21:25] <aliby> crimsun: check below:
[21:25] <Leefmc> crimsun: and.. huh?
[21:25] <aliby>   Front Left: Playback 25 [81%] [-9.00dB] [on]
[21:25] <aliby>   Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [-46.50dB] [on]
[21:25] <Blacklight> Leefmc, ^^
[21:25] <aliby> that seem right?
[21:25] <Leefmc> Blacklight: K
[21:25] <aliby> (under sigmatel surround)
[21:25] <crimsun> aliby: no.  let's move to #ubuntu-audio-help, please
[21:25] <Blacklight> Leefmc, locate nameofwidget
[21:26] <LinuxGhost1> Which one of u uses KOMPOZER tto design webpages
[21:26] <LinuxGhost1> ?
[21:26] <neofax> goat: Are you running fglrx drivers or radeon?
[21:26] <Leefmc> Blacklight: Doesn't exist. But im sure theres a difference between the name of the widget, and the name on file..
[21:26] <Gnea> !anyone | linxeh
[21:26] <Blacklight> Leefmc, if it doesn't find it but you know its there, do
[21:26] <neofax> lina: That means you do not have gcc installed.  Open synaptic and install gcc
[21:26] <goat> neofax, im not even sure now :(
[21:26] <Gnea> oops
[21:26] <Gnea> !anyone | LinuxGhost1
[21:26] <neofax> goat: lsmod | grep radeon
[21:27] <cedriczg_> howlingmadhowie, I am back again
[21:27] <Blacklight> Leefmc, do 'sudo updatedb'
[21:27] <blake_> what tools can i use to sniff unencrypted wi-fi?
[21:27] <blake_> like to read people's IM's
[21:27] <Blacklight> Leefmc, then try to search again
[21:27] <cedriczg_> howlingmadhowie, Could you reproduce the issue?
[21:27] <dudus> lina: install the package build-essentials
[21:27] <blake_> what websites they're going to, etc.
[21:27] <goat> neofax, radeon                124192  2
[21:27] <goat> drm                    82452  3 radeon
[21:27] <Gnea> blake_: why?
[21:27] <Leefmc> Blacklight: Ahh. So wtf is all this?
[21:27] <Swian> I tried gOS, seems a bit buggy
[21:27] <Blacklight> all of what
[21:27] <LinuxGhost1> GNea
[21:28] <Blacklight> Leefmc, all of what?
[21:28] <howlingmadhowie> cedriczg_: i haven't tried. everything's working so perfectly at the moment on my computer, i'd hate to mess things up :(
[21:28] <c0ld_fuZi0n> guys, sorry to labour this, but i'm having no luck with ANY of google's services. i'm in the uk and cannot connect to google.co.uk, .com, the adsense on my website returns an "address not found", my gmail doesn't work and my youtube embeds on my website are not showing. is no-one else having this?
[21:28] <LinuxGhost1> anyone?
[21:28] <LinuxGhost1> gnea,anyone?
[21:28] <Gnea> !ask | LinuxGhost1
[21:28] <Leefmc> Blacklight: What does updatedb do? I assumed "locate" was searching my hd.
[21:28] <howlingmadhowie> cedriczg_: and i also haven't been able to find the configuration file with the menus in it
[21:28] <Blacklight> !anyone | LinuxGhost
[21:28] <cedriczg_> Well it wouldn't mess anything. You would just get the same icon item in two folders. Then you can delete the duplicate
[21:28] <Blacklight> Leefmc, it updates your search database.
[21:28] <goat> neofax, maybe i should try install the proprietary drivers?
[21:28] <lina> neofax, according to that i have several gcc installed
[21:29] <neofax> goat: OK, you are using the radeon drivers.  Go to System-->Administration-->Hardware Drivers and install the fglrx ones.
[21:29] <Blacklight> Leefmc, so do that first then locate nameofwidget
[21:29] <cedriczg_> howlingmadhowie, I just wanted to check if it is just me
[21:29] <Leefmc> Blacklight: Search database of my harddrive? So updatedb indexes my HD, and locate searches that index?
[21:29] <Leefmc> Blacklight: Note that it did work, im just trying to understand :)
[21:29] <neofax> lina: Right click on them and purge them.  Then reinstall.
[21:29] <LinuxGhost1> ubottu,thanks
[21:29] <sproots> I need help with lamp, I have everything installed but it only works on my local ip 127.0.0.1
[21:29] <rconan> Leefmc, yes
[21:29] <Blacklight> Leefmc, yeah something like that
[21:29] <Ryan_> Why is the server edition of Ubuntu supportedfor 2 years more than the desktop edition?
[21:30] <goat> neofax, nothing shows up in hardware drivers
[21:30] <lina> neofax, what to reinstall tho.. all of them?
[21:30] <cedriczg_> Leefmc, it updates your database with the new files under the folder locate searches
[21:30] <howlingmadhowie> so the question is, where does gnome store its menu information?
[21:30] <rconan> Ryan_, because people deploying on servers can't upgrade every 3 years, it needs to remain stable
[21:30] <Kohlrak> what's solaris mode?
[21:30] <dudus> Ryan_: because servers need to stay online for a larger period, and take it offlien to update distro is a huge problem
[21:30] <Blacklight> Leefmc, find is a more general use of that database.
[21:30] <Ryan_> Ah, okay.
[21:30] <willfrand__> hi hohoh
[21:30] <neofax> lina: It depends on your kernel versions build gcc.  Since you are trying to build the proprietary NVIDIA drivers.
[21:30] <Leefmc> gotcha
[21:31] <howlingmadhowie> cedriczg_: maybe gnome only starts to store menu information when it gets changed from the default. can you try grep-ing in your $HOME for the name of the executable for one of the changes you've made?
[21:31] <Blacklight> Leefmc, man locate for more info :P
[21:31] <Leefmc> gotcha
[21:31] <Leefmc> thanks
[21:31] <LinuxGhost1> sorry
[21:31] <cedriczg_> howlingmadhowie, I tried so, but couln't find yet
[21:31] <LinuxGhost1> mistake
[21:31] <LinuxGhost1> sorry
[21:32] <LinuxGhost1> noob
[21:32] <codazoda> Hi!  I installed the latest ffmpeg manually, because I needed GPL options (MPEG2).  Now, I want other programs that require ffmpeg to intall, but not to install ffmpeg.  With yum, you just add an exclusion for ffmpeg.  How do I do this with apt/synaptic?
[21:32] <neofax> goat: Use EnvyNG to install them then.
[21:33] <goat> neofax, i dont think fglrx work for 9200?
[21:33] <lina> neofax, and how do I figure that out?
[21:34] <lina> neofax, is it 2.6.24-19-generic? or that has nothing to do with it?
[21:34] <theunixgeek> In the forums, how do I move from being a "First Cup of ubuntu"?
[21:34] <Swian> anyone ever tried gOS?
[21:34] <TiredWolf> theunixgeek: try asking in #ubuntuforums :)
[21:34] <theunixgeek> TiredWolf: heh, thanks :)
[21:34] <codazoda> To ask this with fewer words.  "-)
[21:34] <codazoda> How do I make apt-get skip updates for a certain package?
[21:35] <KOJV> I've been thinking of migrating my Microsoft Windows 2003 Server machine to Ubuntu Server. Would someone be interested in joining the channel by the same name as my nick to inform me about software alternatives to my Windows programs or should I take it in this channel?
[21:35] <TiredWolf> codazoda: complicated...
[21:35] <TiredWolf> !pinning > codazoda
[21:35] <neofax> lina: Easiest way to know, is if you have the space, install them all.
[21:35] <rconan> KOJV, this channel should be fine
[21:35] <KOJV> rconan, well I've got one person in my channel so far...
[21:35] <lina> neofax, heh ill do that then.. got alot of space
[21:35] <codazoda> Bummer.  I'll go check it out.
[21:36] <billybigrigger> can someone help me here, im logged in via vnc on a lan pc, but i can't seem to login on the actual ubuntu machine, how do i go about having multiple sessions?
[21:36] <theunixgeek> I can't mount my freshly-downloaded Hardy ISO. :(
[21:36] <yuro> i got this error everytime i play video http://paste.ubuntu.com/35985/ on every video player
[21:36] <howlingmadhowie> cedriczg_: just try 'grep -r <path to executable> $HOME/*'
[21:36] <neofax> goat: You're right.  The last fglrx that supported the 9200 was 8.28.8.  So radeon is the best driver for your card.  However, to upgrade the resolution is to find out the h-sync and v-sync of your monitor.  Then use a generic xorg.conf to achieve this.
[21:37] <cedriczg_> howlingmadhowie, good idea, thanks
[21:37] <goat> neofax, what about tv-out? i was told it works with 9200 on ubuntu
[21:38] <neofax> goat: Yes, once the resolution is good, use that gentoo how-to i posted
[21:38] <goat> neofax, how do i generate a generic xorg.conf?
[21:40] <yuro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/35985/ anyone know how to eliminate this problem ?
[21:40] <rconan> goat, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:40] <neofax> goat: Xorg -configure
[21:40] <anilomkar> How to enable FN keys in my vaio laptop please help me out
[21:41] <goat> neofax, ok ill try...
[21:41] <goat> :/
[21:41] <cedriczg_> howlingmadhowie, although it may take a while ;)
[21:41] <cedriczg_> howlingmadhowie, will grep enter in hidden directories as well?
[21:41] <neofax> billybigrigger: Allow X to start on a different vtty.  Google for linux Xorg :1
[21:41] <howlingmadhowie> cedriczg_: yes, it will
[21:41] <Ikarius> hola folks
[21:42] <howlingmadhowie> cedriczg_: which can be very annoying at times. i haven't yet found a way to stop it
[21:42] <UltraNav> After restoring a full backup of 7.10, I don't get past the first tiny bit on left at the progressbar - do I need to invoke grub or something after restore ?
[21:42] <Ikarius> anyone here terribly familiar with power management in ubuntu server edition?
[21:42] <Moojkm> can you run ubuntu with two keyboards?
[21:42] <Zyrx> hi
[21:42] <lina> neofax, when i use sudo update-alternatives --list cc now the next line says /usr/bin/gcc
[21:42] <neofax> lina: Now you have gcc installed.
[21:43] <anabelle> HAVE anyone noticed for how long flashplugin-nonfree has been USELESS in the repos?
[21:43] <Neku> can anyone help me wi this 'E:Type ‘“deb’ is not known on line 53 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list, E:The list of sources could not be read.'
[21:43] <anabelle> IM SO SAD!
[21:43] <Kohlrak> is it possible to identify a particular process hogging up the disk speed?
[21:43] <lina> neofax, ok ill try to install the drivers now then :) thanks alot for the help
[21:43] <Ikarius> I'm attempting to set up a home server, and cpufreq looks to be hamstrung, and I'm having a bit of difficulty figuring out SATA power management
[21:43] <anabelle> Neku paste our sources.list to pastebin
[21:44] <neofax> Neku: Paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin and post the website.
[21:44] <Neku> how do i use paste bin?
[21:44] <anabelle> neku www.pastecode.org
[21:44] <Dada_> Hello. I just bought a USB wireless network adapter. I want to see if it's compatible with Ubuntu. Anyone knwo where I can do this?
[21:44] <Neku> kk
[21:44] <neofax> Neku: Go to pastebin paste your file and submit.  It will give you a webpage
[21:44] <Dada_> It's a Netgear
[21:44] <goat> neofax, i forgot the command you told me to run after i killed the xserver :P
[21:44] <neofax> Dada_: Google
[21:44] <kindofabuzz> plug it in and see
[21:44]  * goat slaps goat
[21:45] <Neku> do i just double click on the .list or open it with something?
[21:45] <sweetgu1> Someone know how ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso is compiled from the kernel .tar.gz?
[21:45] <Dada_> There isn't a special page for this? I just plugged it in but nothing happens
[21:45] <neofax> Xorg -configure
[21:45] <goat> ty
[21:45] <infinitycircuit> sweetgu1, that question makes no sense
[21:45] <anilomkar> How to reduce my backlight in my laptop (sony vaio) ?
[21:45] <neofax> Dada_: Something happened, but it may not have been visual.  Do lsusb
[21:45] <goat> neofax, forgot the capital X :)
[21:45] <Neku> neofax :do i just double click on the .list or open it with something?
[21:45] <Dada_> I will try
[21:45] <neofax> Neku: Sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:46] <lashi> Hey everyone
[21:46] <Xecuter> hi! i'm helping out a friend with his computer through ssh, and i'm trying to get ics working. i decided to start over, so i ran iptables -F, bad idea ^^, no he can't connect to internet. How to fix?
[21:46] <Dada_> Aha, it recognises the Netgear!
[21:46] <sweetgu1> infinitycircuit: hm, what i'm trying to ask is this: how can i compile a working version of the Ubuntu ISO from the kernel source code that is publicly available?
[21:46] <lashi> does anyone know the reason that I don't get virtual consoles when I'm using grub2 and I tell it to load the splash screen?
[21:46] <lashi> I even disabled the statement to load gfxtem
[21:46] <Dada_> Nothing can really be done with it though
[21:46] <lashi> but I can only get virtual consoles if I don't boot with a splash
[21:46] <infinitycircuit> sweetgu1, there is a distinction between the userland and the kernel in linux.  you can't "compile an ISO" from "kernel source"
[21:47] <Ikarius> anyone who can help with power management on ubuntu?
[21:47] <Neku> neofax: it keps sayin bash: Sudo: command not found
[21:47] <infinitycircuit> sweetgu1, i think what you mean is you want to remaster an ubuntu iso with a custom kernel
[21:47] <cedriczg_> Ikarius, what's your issue?
[21:47] <lashi> Ikarius, yeah, whats the issue? I might be able to help
[21:47] <anabelle> neku sudo without capital "S"
[21:47] <sweetgu1> infinitycircuit: true: how does the iso become into existance?
[21:47] <Neku> kk
[21:47] <neofax> Neku: that should be sudo.  Sorry.  Trying to properly capitalize a sentence.
[21:47] <Ikarius> I loaded up ubuntu server 8.04 on a box, and looking at cpufreq
[21:47] <infinitycircuit> !remaster | sweetgu1
[21:48] <sweetgu1> infinitycircuit: thanks.
[21:48] <Ikarius> only govorner avail is "performance", which never clocks the processor down, and speedstep and other cpufreq kernel modules seem to be missing
[21:48] <infinitycircuit> Ikarius, sudo modprobe cpufreq_ondemand
[21:48] <anabelle> HOW IS IN CHARGE OF THE REPOS?
[21:48] <infinitycircuit> speedstep-centrino is deprecated in newer kernels in favor of acpi-cpufreq
[21:48] <Ikarius> infinitycircuit that module isnt there
[21:49] <anabelle> FLASHPLUGIN-NONFREE HAS BEEN BROKEN FOR OVER TWO MONTHS!
[21:49] <unop> !caps | anabelle
[21:49] <anabelle> sorry, my Mistake
[21:49] <Xecuter> anabelle, please don't use caps lock
[21:49] <neofax> anabelle: The Masters of the Universe
[21:49] <Neku> neofax : http://www.pastecode.org/2493
[21:49] <anabelle> neofax can we telle them to fix it?
[21:49] <unop> anabelle, file a bug (if one hasn't already been filed)
[21:49] <Xecuter> hi! i'm helping out a friend with his computer through ssh, and i'm trying to get ics working. i decided to start over, so i ran iptables -F, bad idea ^^, no he can't connect to internet. How to fix?
[21:49] <unop> !bug | anabelle
[21:49] <Ikarius> infinitycircuit oooh, nevermind, that module is there
[21:49] <anabelle> im no good with english
[21:49] <anabelle> maybe somebody helps me?
[21:50] <lashi> anabelle, yeah, wahts up?
[21:50] <lashi> I'm using flashplugin-nonfree, and I haven't had issues
[21:50] <Ikarius> ok, so I should be using acpi_cpufreq
[21:50] <neofax> Neku: Take out the quotation marks on line 53 and it will work
[21:50] <Ikarius> that's good, cause I did load that
[21:50] <anabelle> flashplugin-nonfree is broken in the repos since two months!!
[21:50] <anabelle> lashi remove it and install it again
[21:50] <sweetgu1> infinitycircuit: what is squashfs?
[21:50] <anabelle> download.macromedia.com gives 404 on every page!
[21:50] <lashi> stall it works for me
[21:50] <lashi> it works for me
[21:51] <evildonut> I have a problem with x.org. My monitor says "signal out of range" when X starts. I can hear the little drum sound that tells me it's at the login screen, but I get no video signal. Looking at xorg.conf, it appears that a lot of display and monitor information is missing. I've tried using dpkg-reconfigure, but it only asks about keyboard-related stuff and then quits.
[21:51] <evildonut> I'm using a GeForce 7600GS
[21:51] <lashi> hmm...
[21:51] <evildonut> this is a fresh installation, with Wubi
[21:51] <lashi> maybe you can download it manually anabelle?
[21:51] <unop> anabelle, flash is owned by adobe now -- the download page would be somewhere on adobe.com
[21:52] <anabelle> unop i know
[21:52] <anabelle> Thats why it should be fixed in the repos!!
[21:52] <Neku> neofax : what the now it says i dont have permissions to save it after the edit
[21:52] <sweetgu1> what does squashfs do?
[21:52] <rconan> anabelle, have you run apt-get update recently?
[21:52] <anabelle> lashi I have it already installed, i just concerned it doesn't work in the repos
[21:52] <lashi> sure, anabelle, but telling us here isn't going to get it fixed in the repos
[21:52] <neofax> unop: However, the flashplugin-nonfree deb creates a deb file based on the adobe download.  It is a hack, but it keeps your system kinda clean.
[21:52] <lashi> You should file a bug report
[21:52] <unop> anabelle, flash  works fine
[21:52] <anabelle> unop YES it does!
[21:52] <lashi> anabelle, what repo are you using?
[21:53] <neofax> Neku: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  then delete the qutation marks and save.
[21:53] <monsani_smi> alguem ai fala em portugues
[21:53] <anabelle> bah!
[21:53] <Ikarius> infinity- next q is about SATA drive spindown
[21:53] <anabelle> nobody cares
[21:53] <anabelle> :'(
[21:53] <anabelle> good bye
[21:53] <jpds> anabelle: Flash works here. Not sure what your issue is.
[21:53] <lashi> you know, getting all emo isn't going to fix this issue
[21:53] <IHK> is it possible to decompress the ubuntu install cd image, and boot it with grub?
[21:53] <lashi> if you need help to get it working now
[21:53] <lashi> we can help
[21:53] <Xecuter> hi! i'm helping out a friend with his computer through ssh, and i'm trying to get ics working. i decided to start over, so i ran iptables -F, bad idea ^^, no he can't connect to internet. How to fix?
[21:53] <jpds> !bug | anabelle
[21:53] <anabelle> the issue is, download.macromedia.com has been shut down
[21:53] <lashi> if you find a big with it
[21:53] <lashi> then file a bug report
[21:53] <anabelle> ubottu dont spam please
[21:53] <rkpisanu> how to work online automatically where i start firefox ?
[21:53] <unop> neofax, erm, i think it just registers where libflashplugin.so exists -- so when you remove flashplugin-nonfree the .so file is also removed -- i wouldn't say it creates a .deb file anew
[21:53] <jpds> !bot > anabelle
[21:54] <lashi> because none of us here are going fix the package
[21:54] <lina> neofax, got the driver installed now... cant change any settings tho :( You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.
[21:54] <lWizardl> anyone know where a list of linux versions of Windows programs for business applications
[21:54] <scurker> I'm using 8.04 with two graphics cards (Geforce 8 & Geforce 7), with one card going out to a monitor, and the other going out to the tv. For some reason it shows both displays in screens and graphics, but won't let me enable the second one (tv-out). Any idea on how to fix this?
[21:54] <yuro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/35985/ please look at this error ?
[21:54] <jay__> when i delete a file in ubuntu is it perminatly deleted or does it goto a "recycle bin" type thing?
[21:54] <AngryPunk> evildonut: it sounds like your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file has the wrong HSYNC and VSYNC.  Look up the specs from your monitor manufactures website and edit the file in a text editor, if you know how to do that.
[21:55] <unop> jay__, depends on how you delete it -- if you use nautilus, the file is sent to the trashcan
[21:55] <rkpisanu> jay__, what filesystem file ?
[21:55] <jay__> ubuntu's built in filesystem
[21:55] <Neku> neofax : thank you very much would u be able to help me with this 1 last problem when i try to enable desktop effects is says it cannot and in the hardware drivers it says there are none could you help?
[21:55] <neofax> unop: Not true.  Take a look into the deb conffile and preinst files.  When this deb is ran, flashplugin-nonfree downloads from adobe and extracts all of the bs to its proper places on a debian based sytem.
[21:55] <rkpisanu> i know only with ntfs type
[21:55] <jay__> i had a file on my desktop and deleted it, and was wondering if their was a ay to recover it
[21:56] <Ikarius> '
[21:56] <neofax> lina: Do lsmod | grep nvidia
[21:56] <neofax> Neku: What type of video card do you have?
[21:56] <Dada_> Okay, I'm using ndiswrapper to install my wireless adapter now. On the CD, there's a folder called /bin/config/ndis6/x32--does this mean it "supports ndiswrapper", or is this probably not a driver?
[21:56] <Neku> neofax not sure anyway to check?
[21:57] <lina> neofax, nvidia               3934028  0        agpgart                34760  2 nvidia,intel_agp
[21:57] <unop> neo2k, if you're implying that dpkg-buildpackage is ever called in the process to create a new .deb file from the tarball downloaded from adobe's site (through the pre-inst script), i will disagree -- but otherwise, i think we are both on the same page
[21:57] <sweetgu1> can somebody tell me what squashfs does?
[21:57] <rkpisanu> jay__, see the trash icon, on the right and bottom corner
[21:57] <Dada_> ndis6 is probably the wireless driver for Windows XP and up, right?
[21:57] <bruno_br> alguem fala portugues
[21:57] <Dada_> Or maybe ndis5 is for XP, and ndis6 is for Vista.
[21:57] <neofax> Neku: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[21:58] <bruno_br> alguem pode me ajudar??
[21:58] <evildonut> AngryPunk: Yeah. But looking at the xorg.conf, there are no entries for VSYNC and HSYNC, or for resolution for that matter. I've tried editing it with vim (which I suck at), but there's also another problem: There are way to many lines in the terminal, so I can't see half of what I'm doing. Video is pretty f'ed up in general, it seems
[21:58] <Sonderblade> how do you check which files a package provides?
[21:58] <Starnestommy> !br | bruno_br
[21:58] <AzulFin> changed since nickserv requested
[21:58] <Dada_> After installing a Windows driver with ndiswrapper, do I need to restart?
[21:58] <jay__> ahhhh ok thanks i see it!!!
[21:58] <neofax> lina: sudo aptitude install nvidia-settings
[21:58] <Neku> neofax : it says  	Driver		"kbd"
[21:58] <Neku> 	Driver		"mouse"
[21:58] <Neku> 	Driver		"vesa"
[21:59] <bruno_br> #ubuntu-br
[21:59] <neofax> Sonderblade: Use synaptic and look at the properties.
[21:59] <johncoltrane> hi, does anyone use hydrogen and jack?
[21:59] <chazco> Hi... i have a load of .mpeg files, in DVD suitable codecs... how do i (simply) create a playable DVD from them in Ubuntu? Ideally with menus.
[21:59] <lina> neofax, already done that... when i use: gksu nvidia-settings       it gives me an error message
[21:59] <gsd> Hmm I a small issue with flas, (64bit system) this install is one day old, after installing flashplungin-nonfree yesterday I tried a video on youtube and it worked. Now all videos are just a dark grey box. They don't play. Anyone have any ideas?
[21:59] <rconan> !anyone | johncoltrane
[22:00] <Sonderblade> neofax: is there no apt-get command for it?
[22:00] <neofax> Neku: OK, that didn't help.  You will need to post your pc brand and model or mobo/video-card if home built
[22:00] <Blacklight> when I go into /etc/cron.daily... there is a bunch of stuff in there, are those files actually ran daily? or do I need to do something?
[22:00] <neofax> Sonderblade: Try man apt-cache.  This may have it, but I haven't used it.
[22:00] <ParaDoX34690> Can any recommend a good, multi-purpose media application with functionality similar to that of WinAMP??
[22:01] <yuro> Unop, please look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/35985/ i got this if i play video files
[22:01] <Blacklight> ParaDoX34690, audacious
[22:01] <AzulFin> ParaDoX34690, have you tried xmms
[22:01] <neofax> Blacklight: Yes, they are ran daily if the file exists.
[22:01] <johncoltrane> I just loaded up one of the example .h2song and when I hit play it's all out of sync
[22:01] <rconan> AzulFin, i wouldn't be recommending xmms to anyone
[22:01] <Neku> neofax: its not a home built on the side it says systemax on windows i think it said it was a plug n play graphics card somethin like tht
[22:01] <neofax> ParaDoX34690: Amarok
[22:01] <neofax> Neku: Systemax what?  Viper, Titan???
[22:02] <Blacklight> !xmms | AzulFin
[22:02] <KOJV> What's a click-to-install, easy to use, GUI configurated FTP server for Ubuntu?
[22:02] <unop> yuro, I had this problem with vlc sometime ago -- i just reinstalled vlc like this.    sudo aptitude purge vlc && sudo aptitude install vlc
[22:02] <ParaDoX34690> Blacklight & AzulFin: I've heard of both, never tried either. What I'm looking for is something capable of listening to streams with bookmarking functionality, and I suppose just MP3's... I'm sure I can find other apps for my other stuff...
[22:02] <Neku> neofax: emmmm hold on
[22:02] <AzulFin> ubottu, ok, did not know that
[22:02] <mmCRe> wow
[22:02] <mmCRe> lots of people
[22:02] <mmCRe> join #pidgin
[22:02] <AzulFin> :)
[22:02] <rkpisanu> how to work online automatically where i start firefox ?
[22:03] <AzulFin> ParaDoX34690, well like others mentioned for me, forget my advise :)
[22:03] <simotempler_> hi anyone- i downloaded virtualbox_1.6.4-33808_Ubuntu_gutsy_i386.deb and installed it how do i run it its not on the menu??
[22:03] <Dada_> Do I need to restart after using ndiswrapper? I don't think it works...
[22:03] <ParaDoX34690> Azulfin: I'll do that ;)
[22:03] <ParaDoX34690> rkpisanu: what do you mean?
[22:03] <yuro> Unop, the strange thing is, that happens on every video player i got. not just vlc
[22:03] <neofax> Dada_: You will need to start the kernel driver with modprobe ndiswrapper
[22:03] <Dada_> aha, thanks.
[22:04] <AzulFin> ParaDoX34690, I myself are using vlc and mplayer .. vlc has bookmarking
[22:04] <rkpisanu> ParaDoX34690, when i start firefox the first time, it work offine, dont work online
[22:04] <Dada_> There we go, now let's see if it works
[22:04] <Neku> neofax: sorry it just say systemax on the front cant find anything else
[22:04] <neofax> ParaDoX34690: If you mean bookmarking of IceCast or Shoutcast streams, use Amarok.
[22:04] <yuro> rkpisanu, are online by using 3g or gsm or cdma ?
[22:04] <rkpisanu> no ppp
[22:04] <AzulFin> ParaDoX34690, sorry my weird English .. just bit tired :)
[22:05] <RunningUtes> I am new to ubuntu and was told about Ultamatix.  I have heard it is a good program. SHould I use it?
[22:05] <rconan> Neku, are you already running ubuntu?
[22:05] <neofax> Neku: Does the blue video db connector attach to the mobo or is it on its own daughter card?
[22:05] <rkpisanu> usb asdl modem with pppd
[22:05] <jonah> hey guys trying to delete files in my root trash but they just pop back in there, can't get rid of them. tried: sudo rm -fr /root/.local/share/Trash/*  but it doesn't work
[22:05] <rkpisanu> but i am connected to internet
[22:05] <ParaDoX34690> I'll give amarok a shot then... Thanks for the suggestions. Azulfin: don't sweat it.
[22:06] <josh43> anyone have experience with lircrc and irexec? I have lirc working
[22:06] <Neku> neofax: think motherboard
[22:06] <MindVirus> WTF.
[22:06] <yuro> Unop, i only got 32 Mb nvidia 440, is that what cause the problem ?
[22:06] <MindVirus> All of my sound is half-speed.
[22:06] <neofax> RunningUtes: No.  It has the possibility to f^ck your system.
[22:06] <Neku> rconan: yeh.......
[22:06] <MindVirus> All of it.
[22:06] <ParaDoX34690> rkpisanu: that's beyond my scope of ubuntu thus far, sorry guy...
[22:06] <AzulFin> ParaDoX34690, amarok is quite good choice
[22:06] <MindVirus> But it has the same pitch.
[22:06] <MindVirus> I am running pulse.
[22:06] <rconan> Neku, am i recalling correctly you're having a problem with graphics?
[22:06] <MindVirus> How do I fix this?
[22:06] <Neku> rconan: yeah
[22:06] <rconan> Neku, what is the problem?
[22:06] <simotempler_> hi anyone- i downloaded virtualbox_1.6.4-33808_Ubuntu_gutsy_i386.deb and installed it how do i run it its not on the menu??
[22:07] <RunningUtes> neofax: I have heard that it automates installation of programs.  Is there a way to add these programs manually?
[22:07] <warborz> i love ubuntu
[22:07] <ParaDoX34690> is there a codec pack that I should also install for all my divx, xvid, mpg's, mp4's, avi's, etc, or am I good to go from the base install???
[22:07] <xPhilosx> quick question, I have Ubuntu 8.04 and the latest NVIDIA drivers 173.14.12 have consistently messed up xserver and caused several issues, but the repo drivers are way out of date.  Does anyone know what the latest stable version is that works with Ubuntu 8.04 x64?
[22:07] <warborz> thank you for creating this OS
[22:07] <simotempler_> anyone any idea bout that
[22:07] <Neku> rconan: whn i try to enable desktop effects it wont and in drivers in admin it wont show any drivers
[22:07] <yuro> rkpisanu, if u use a usb modem, then u will face the same problem (firefox working offline)
[22:07] <neofax> Neku: You will need to break open the box then and look at the chipsets, but may have a problem as it will probably have a heatsink or fan on it.  You could see if you have the books for the pc.
[22:07] <goat> neofax, what must i set the sync values to in xorg.conf to allow 1024x768?
[22:07] <rconan> ParaDoX34690, you might want to look at ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:08] <rconan> Neku, can you pastebin the output of lspci?
[22:08] <rkpisanu> so yuro ?
[22:08] <neofax> Neku: You can also try the bios when the computer starts.  Write down the bios numbers and you may be able to ferret it out.
[22:08] <ParaDoX34690> rconan: I'll check it out, thanks.
[22:08] <goat> neofax, now im still at 800x600 but my ubuntu is 1 third off the top right of the screen
[22:08] <Neku> rconan: lspci?
[22:08] <lWizardl> anyone here run a small business with a Ubuntu Desktop?
[22:09] <bazz> i have a pdf which is a form i'd like to fill out.  it doesn't have editable form fields, and the text is encrypted.  is there a tool i can use to just write text onto the form (i'll line it up) and then save/export that as a pdf?
[22:09] <Neku> neofax: what if i go onto windows try tht run command and come back wi results of it?
[22:09] <rconan> Neku, run lspci in a terminal and pastebin the output so I can see what graphics card you're using
[22:09] <neofax> goat: Find out the brand and model of your monitor then set the hsync and vrefresh of your monitor in xorg.conf.  I am not that good with generating my own modelines.
[22:09] <bruno_br> alguem fala portugues preciso de ajuda
[22:09] <goat> neofax, its very old :/
[22:09] <neofax> Neku: Well, you could have mentioned that earlier. ;^)
[22:09] <yuro> rkpisanu, so, u have to manually uncheck the "work offline" menu on firefox OR disabling network manager coz usb modem doesn't use network manger
[22:10] <Ikarius> okay, I've got cpufreqd and cpufrequtils installed, anyone familiar with difference between using them?
[22:10] <orgthingy> hi
[22:10] <lWizardl> bazz, couldn't you export the pdf files as like jpg files and then use gimp to add your text?
[22:10] <xPhilosx> goat, yeah its easy mate, lookup the hsync and vsync online and then sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak2 then sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and edit them
[22:10] <orgthingy> even though i removed Knetstats, it's STILL running
[22:10] <mixed> !nvidia
[22:10] <orgthingy> how can i completely remove it?
[22:10] <mixed> hey what happened to obotu?????
[22:10] <mixed> !nvidia
[22:11] <jonah> hello can anyone please help
[22:11] <bazz> lWizardl: I guess, but i don't think i could get it back into pdf then
[22:11] <goat> xPhilosx, where am i going to find info on an extremely old monitor?
[22:11] <xPhilosx> goat, in order for my monitor to work at all I had to disable EDID in xorg and change the sync values
[22:11] <Neku> rconan: http://www.pastecode.org/2494
[22:11] <grout> goat: craigslist
[22:11] <xPhilosx> goat, I have a really old CRT, i just typed in the model number and vsync into google
[22:11] <Ikarius> it appears cpufrequtils can do on demand frequency scaling, but I'm curious about using a combo of demand + temp
[22:11] <neofax> RunningUtes: Sorry for the late reply.  Many programs have a repo that you can install them from.  Check out GetDeb(be careful as some debs are checkinstall ones that are crap) and google for the program and ppa. i.e. java ppa
[22:11] <xPhilosx> goat, eg, mx704 vsync
[22:12] <xPhilosx> quick question, I have Ubuntu 8.04 and the latest NVIDIA drivers 173.14.12 have consistently messed up xserver and caused several issues, but the repo drivers are way out of date.  Does anyone know what the latest stable version is that works with Ubuntu 8.04 x64?
[22:12] <jonah> how do i empty the trash bin of the root account?
[22:12] <rconan> Neku, that's a fairly old graphics chip. it might not support graphics acceleration
[22:12] <goat> xPhilosx, i dont even think this thing has a model number, its a ADI ProVista - i cant look at the back because if i move the monitor away from the wall the vga cable will break inside for good
[22:12] <Neku> rconan: balls
[22:12] <lWizardl> bazz, you could always load the jpg images into openoffice writer and then export as a pdf
[22:13] <xPhilosx> well, you can always search for ADI ProVista then
[22:13] <rconan> Neku, can you do a "glxinfo | grep direct"
[22:13] <ParaDoX34690> okay, slightly more important question: I'm dual booting on a Alienware with XP Pro and Ubuntu. I have a 2nd drive that I have folders that MUST be shared off for my network (and I still have to install my linux version of filezilla server for my FTP)... How do I grant myself rights to share?
[22:13] <neofax> goat: So, google is your friend.  Also, if it came with a windows install disc the hsync and vrefresh will be in the inf file.
[22:13] <Neku> rconan: direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[22:13] <Neku> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[22:14] <goat> neofax, err, the monitor came with a windows install disk? it probably came with a dos floppy? :S
[22:14] <tacosteve> anyone ever had a problem with not being able to switch workspaces???
[22:14] <rconan> Neku, as i suspected, direct rendering is off, which either means you have no hardware for it or the drivers are bad
[22:14] <bazz> lWizardl: hrmm, yeah, i'll give it a shot.  thanks :)
[22:14] <qr_> ParaDoX34690: I presume you want to share with windows machines? You need to use samba to do that. If you want to share with other linux machines you should use NFS.
[22:14] <lordfdisk> I use the 169.12
[22:14] <rconan> probably just too old for desktop effects
[22:14] <lordfdisk> I'm running it
[22:14] <Neku> rconan: anyway to change it lol?
[22:14] <neofax> Neku: Buy a cheap ass NVIDIA card and call it a day.
[22:14] <unop> jonah, sudo rm -rf /root/.local/share/Trash/*
[22:14] <Neku> neofax: amen lol
[22:15] <unop> !language | neofax
[22:15] <Blacklight> lol
[22:15] <goat> ahh Model:    	    PROVISTA 14
[22:15] <goat> Max Resolution:   	    1024 x 768
[22:15] <goat> Sync Type:   	    Seperate
[22:15] <goat> H Freq/ V Freq:   	    30-50 Khz / 50-100 Hz
[22:15] <iGama> is there a way to see what is using the Audio ?
[22:15] <xPhilosx> neofax, hey mate, you wouldnt know which drivers work with Hardy would you?  The latest Nvidia ones mess with xserver pretty bad, but the repo nvidia-glx-new is pretty outdated/
[22:15] <Neku> anyone know good site to get compiz themes from
[22:15] <unop> goat, please use the pastebin for multi-line posts
[22:16] <neofax> ubottu: Will do Mom!!!
[22:16] <ParaDoX34690> qr_: Well, I right click on the folder I want to share ("ISO Images"), and tell it to create share, but then it tells me that it returned error 255, and that I don't have permission to create a usershare...
[22:16] <goat> unop, yes i know it was only supposed to be 3 lines
[22:16] <Blacklight> lol
[22:16] <unop> iGama,  lsof | egrep -i "/dev/dsp|/dev/audio"
[22:16] <jonah> unop: hey thanks but the files are all still there
[22:16] <iGama> unop, thanks
[22:17] <Neku> anyone know a site for compiz themes and good apps?
[22:17] <jonah> unop: is there a more powerful method?
[22:17] <unop> jonah, that empty's root's trash .. not yours .. are you looking at your trash can there?
[22:17] <qr_> ParaDoX34690: I have no idea how to make shares using the GUI tools, sorry. Like I said, samba is what you need to share folders with windows. Try googling "ubuntu samba" or something similar, there should be instructions online on how to set up a share.
[22:17] <hdevalence> is there a program I can use to do a "visual diff" of two images?
[22:17] <josh43> Neku; look up murrine themes
[22:17] <neofax> RunningUtes: Use the medibuntu apt repo
[22:17] <jonah> unop, no i'm looking in the root trash, but can't delete the files
[22:17] <MindVirus> Hi. All of my sound is half-speed, but the pitches are correct.
[22:17] <MindVirus> Can anyone help?
[22:17] <unop> jonah, did the command fail with any errors?
[22:18] <MindVirus> I'm running PulseAudio.
[22:18] <neofax> Neku: compiz-look.org
[22:18] <RunningUtes> neofax: already added those to the repo
[22:18] <SCA> Hi Guys. Can any of you tell me what the default directory for openssl is? I'm going to install it manually and want to put it there
[22:18] <jonah> unop, the command acted as if it worked. no errors, then i open up the root trash and loads of stuff in there
[22:18] <neofax> RunningUtes: What specific program then?
[22:18] <gsd> Ugh my flash keeps dieing on me.. after about 3 or 4 videos.. even restarting firefox won't fix it. It just works when it wants to.
[22:18] <Neku> noefax: do u know a good one for apps?
[22:19] <unop> jonah, does this return anything?  ls -l /root/.local/share/Trash/*
[22:19] <zelrikriando> I have a problem with my keyboard
[22:19] <neofax> Neku: Depends. Gnomefiles.org for GNOME, KDE-apps.org for KDE, GetDeb and the ppa repos
[22:19] <jum> hello evrybody
[22:19] <goat> could someone please give me example lines of HorizSync and VertRefresh for xorg.conf?
[22:19] <jum> i have a problem with pulseaudio
[22:19] <mizipzor> if i have installed a library (using apt-get) is there a way to find out where the actual library files went? my compiler seems to have a hard time locating them...
[22:19] <gaelfx> has anyone had problems burning DVD+R DL discs?
[22:20] <gaelfx> especially when the iso is on an external hard drive?
[22:20] <master_alvaro> does anyone use ubuntu studio?
[22:20] <neofax> goat: HorizSync    30.0 - 40.0
[22:20] <rconan> !anyone | master_alvaro
[22:20] <neofax> goat: VertRefresh  60
[22:20] <qr_> mizipzor: you could try 'locate libraryname'
[22:20] <unop> mizipzor, dpkg -L packagename
[22:20] <mizipzor> thanks, ill try that
[22:20] <master_alvaro> where i can find source.list for ubuntu studio?
[22:20] <jonah> unop:  ls: cannot access /root/.local/share/Trash/*: No such file or directory
[22:20] <rkpisanu> how to use pppd with network manager ?
[22:20] <goat> neofax, which one would be H Freq/ V Freq ?
[22:20] <goat> :/
[22:21] <RunningUtes> neofax: I guess my problem is that I know that using the Add/Remove programs and the synaptic package manager is the best way, why aren't the programs that are available in ultimatix listed as available applications?
[22:21] <qr_> master_alvaro: /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:21] <Ikarius> hmmmm
[22:21] <Ikarius> sensors thinks my fans are in a bad state
[22:21] <master_alvaro> rconan: can you show me your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:21] <neofax> HFreq is the HorizSync and VertRefresh is the V Freq.
[22:21] <unop> jonah, hmm, maybe the files are located elsewhere, you could try finding them.  find /root -iname "*filename*"
[22:21] <master_alvaro> *and preferences
[22:21] <rconan> master_alvaro, what for?
[22:21] <gaelfx> rkpisanu: well, I don't know how to get a pppoe connection with network manager to work, but have you tried opening a terminal and using 'sudo pppoeconf'?
[22:22] <Neku> neofax i got this emerald theme manger but it wont install the themes
[22:22] <neofax> RunningUtes: Many reasons.  Stability, Culpability...
[22:22] <Ikarius> any knowledge about how reliable info on fanspeeds are out of the sensors package? http://pastebin.com/d3c7550
[22:22] <rkpisanu> gaelfx, i use pppoatm
[22:22] <master_alvaro> qr_: i know, but i want try kernel (linux-image) and other software from ubu-studio on another distro
[22:22] <Ikarius> that's a paste of my fans... all showing "ALARM" state
[22:22] <goat> neofax, then my settings are right but it still doesnt work?
[22:23] <gaelfx> rkpisanu: well, never heard of that one, sorry
[22:23] <jonah> unop, but they are in the trash folder in /root/lib/share/trash/files or whatever, cos when i go in nautilus to that folder they're all in there
[22:23] <RunningUtes> neofax: is there a way to add the ultimatix sources to my available repos?
[22:23] <MindVirus> Hi. All of my sound is half-speed, but the pitches are correct. I'm running PulseAudio. Any suggestions?
[22:24] <zelrikriando> my keyboard isnt responding well sometimes, does somebody have an idea of why is that?
[22:24] <unop> jonah, hmm, odd.. guess you will have to delete the files from that directory then.  sudo rm -rf /root/lib/share/trash/files/*
[22:24] <MindVirus> In my audio player, the second hand is going twice as slow.
[22:25] <JeanEdouardF> 65656
[22:25] <JeanEdouardF> 65
[22:25] <JeanEdouardF> 605
[22:25] <JeanEdouardF> 650
[22:25] <nybbj> how to get dashboard for Ubuntu linux 8.04
[22:25] <JeanEdouardF> lol
[22:25] <neofax> RunningUtes: Yes
[22:25] <FloodBot2> JeanEdouardF: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:25] <rconan> master_alvaro, see private message
[22:25] <master_alvaro> rconan: ok, thx
[22:25] <jonah> unop, that's what we just did though and they're still there
[22:25] <rconan> master_alvaro, out of interest what was that for?
[22:25] <arthur> i use virtuialbox and everytime i want to start my other os, in vbox i have to chmod 777 /dev/vboxdrv everytime i start it?
[22:25] <unop> jonah, it's not what we did earlier
[22:25] <Schnubbie> i need someone who has knowledge about networkbridges...
[22:25] <bryceismad1> can anyone help me with installing ubuntu
[22:26] <piman_> njkn
[22:26] <neofax> goat: Sorry, do this HorizSync 30.0 - 50.0 and VertRefresh 50.0 - 100.0
[22:26] <bryceismad1> hello?
[22:26] <erUSUL> arthur: add your user to vboxusers (afaik that's the group)
[22:26] <arthur> ok
[22:26] <mercutio22> Hello guys. My login time is extremely slow.. can someone please help me diagnose the issue? here's my .xsession-errors
[22:26] <arthur> ty
[22:27] <mizipzor> uhm... with someone coming from windows developing... which extension does .lib files have in linux? .a .so or .la? at least, thats the three file extension a find in /usr/lib
[22:27] <goat> neofax, gonna restart x brb
[22:27] <qr_> mizipzor: a .so file is like a .dll file from windows, .a is a static library.
[22:27] <master_alvaro> rconan: i looking for debian-multimedias-like repository
[22:27] <master_alvaro> ;-)
[22:27] <mercutio22> ops
[22:28] <mizipzor> qr_: i see, thanks
[22:28] <mercutio22> here it is http://www.pastebin.ca/1097351
[22:28] <nybbj> how to get dashboard for Ubuntu linux 8.04? or what one is the best? or where to start?
[22:28] <Billll>  I have a 128 ram computer wanting to isntall xubuntu on it
[22:28] <Billll>  question is do I want to isntall the alternate CD version or not?
[22:28] <qr_> Billll: you do, the live CD requires more ram than that
[22:28] <centrex> mizipzor, depending on the type of libraries you can have all.  .a means archive, .so means shared object.  They are different ways of implementing libraries for performance, etc... read up on the difference between shared objects and archives
[22:28] <bryceismad1> I cant install ubuntu on my dell laptop Ineed some help can anyone help me
[22:29] <goat> neofax, now i can set it to 1024x768 :D however, my tv display turned off when i set it to that
[22:29] <bryceismad1> goat can you help me
[22:29] <jonah> unop: done that and they're still in there
[22:29] <goat> bryceismad1, probably not, i am trying to get help myself.
[22:29] <mizipzor> centrex: i know the difference between statically linking a project and dynamically linking
[22:29] <josh43> Can someone please tell me the terminal command to see the raw output of all keyboard and mouse movements/button presses?
[22:29] <bryceismad1> ok thanks goat I just need help installing ubuntu
[22:30] <bryceismad1> I will find som eone else
[22:30] <mizipzor> problem now is, g++ cant seem to find the library files
[22:30] <Billll> goat
[22:30] <goat> Billll
[22:30] <neofax> goat: TV's can only support 800x600.  You will need to change from clone to something else.
[22:30] <Billll> goat:  you from ascent?
[22:30] <goat> Billll, no
[22:30] <Billll> n/m
[22:30] <unop> jonah, does ls still list them?
[22:30] <qr_> mizipzor: you can use -L to provide linker search paths to g++
[22:30] <goat> neofax, it isnt on clone
[22:31] <goat> neofax, also, when the tv was on the display was quite blurry
[22:31] <bryceismad1> ok anyone that knows I put the ubuntu cd in and it gets to the boot menu I tell it to go to live cd but it doesnt then it says /casper/vmlinuz why is that
[22:31] <goat> how can i get it back on? :/
[22:31] <josh43> neofax, TV's don't support 800x600, the graphics card is almost always automatically scaling to the native ntsc resolution (648 x 486)
[22:31] <neofax> goat: Follow the gentoo HOW-TO and it tells you how to set the tv to one resolution and the monitor to another.
[22:31] <Neku> neofax: can u help my emerald theme manager wont change themes
[22:31] <evgeny> hi wats the command to install compiz
[22:31] <josh43> goat; is it a standard tv, or HD?
[22:31] <mevaum> how can i uninstall a program that is not on add/remove list
[22:31] <mevaum> ?
[22:32] <goat> josh43, i set the tv-out to PAL in xorg conf
[22:32] <neofax> josh43: True, but in xorg you set the tvout to 800x600
[22:32] <goat> josh43, standard
[22:32] <bryceismad1> neofax can you help me out here
[22:32] <inspyre> mevaum: sudo apt-get remove programname
[22:32] <Brandano> Good evening everyone
[22:32] <mevaum> tkz
[22:32] <josh43> goat, Then it's always going to be pretty blurry; pal is a bit better at 720 x 486, but it's not crisp by any means
[22:32] <goat> gonna restart x brb quick...
[22:32] <alsadi> what does "sudo apt-get autoclean" do  ?
[22:33] <mizipzor> qr_: yea, i tried that... my linker flags now reads: -L/usr/lib -libphysfs
[22:33] <Brandano> Does somebody have a magic recipe to get sound working in WinE?
[22:33] <neofax> bryceismad1: Does it halt after the /casper/vmlinuz?
[22:33] <josh43> alsadi, cleans out what it thinks you don't need (save hd space)
[22:33] <Neku> neofax: can u help my emerald theme manager wont change themes
[22:33] <alsadi> josh43: cache for example
[22:33] <neofax> Neku: What emerald theme are you trying to use?
[22:33] <bryceismad1> yeah I cant get it to load up live cd or install
[22:33] <mizipzor> qr_: but the compiler says: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -libphysfs ... does that mean its looking in that directory? cause thats wrong... i think
[22:33] <liamkmc> evgeny: compiz or compiz fusion?
[22:33] <slightglitch> I got hit with this weird error trying to load up my 8.04 the other night, and no idea of what it is- someone willing to take a look and speculate? http://pastebin.com/m61bbefb4
[22:33] <alsadi> Brandano: use pulse
[22:33] <qr_> mizipzor: change -libphysfs to -lphysfs, you're using the -l option and you don't put the lib prefix in the link command
[22:33] <neofax> Neku: Also, are you using emerald as your window manager or metacity?
[22:34] <Brandano> alsadi: well, I am using pulse, but WinE doesn't want to lpay nice with it
[22:34] <mizipzor> qr_: ah! thanks, ill try it
[22:34] <Neku> neofax : LM_glossy and i dont know
[22:34] <neofax> bryceismad1: Does the md5 hash match the iso?
[22:34] <josh43> alsadi, Yes, cache, exactly
[22:34] <alsadi> I meant tell wine to use pulse
[22:34] <Brandano> and I get no ESD mixing either, which is a bit odd
[22:34] <unop> mizipzor, do you have the libphysfs-dev package installed?
[22:34] <droopsta15> yes!, got my 8.04 upgraded ok........
[22:34] <bryceismad1> I dont know what that means
[22:34] <alsadi> josh43: thanks
[22:34] <Billll> qr: if I isntall desktop CD verses aleternate CD, once isntall will not both OS's use same ammount of ram?
[22:34] <Brandano> alsadi: using padsp?
[22:34] <mizipzor> unop: yes
[22:34] <droopsta15> unop i solved the sign in prob from yesterday thanx for the help.
[22:35] <mizipzor> qr_: it worked :) but upon running the example program i got a SIGSEGV... hehe
[22:35] <unop> droopsta15, which one was that?
[22:35] <inspyre> slightglitch: are you using ntfs as your file system?
[22:35] <alsadi> Brandano: from wine configuration in the menus
[22:35] <Gnea> !install | bryceismad1
[22:35] <josh43> this is making me crazy; does anyone know how to use the default volume control from the terminal?
[22:35] <liamkmc> how do i uninstall flash 9?
[22:35] <qr_> Billll: probably. I'd suggest using the server install for a really old machine. You can install a very barebones system with no gui with the server cd which should run nicely.
[22:35] <mrglinux> my host is windows and in network my lunx has internet and it disconnect without any reason .. and even i try i can not successed .. also i change my guest from linux to windows and internet shareing works but when i change to ubuntu again didn't work .. i try dhcp and static ip but im sure the problem is form linux but i dont know how to find it
[22:35] <neofax> Neku: sudo apt-get install fusion-icon
[22:35] <unop> josh43, try using amixer
[22:35] <Gnea> josh43: yes.
[22:35] <Brandano> alsadi: I miss that option, though. Let me check my WinE version
[22:35] <slightglitch> inspyre: Yes....I installed it from Windows.
[22:35] <droopsta15> i was entering the username and password but could not signin the regular mode, had to use the failsafe mode.
[22:35] <josh43> unop, in hardy, there is no amixer
[22:35] <Brandano> 1.1.2. I thought that would be recent enough?
[22:36] <josh43> unop, oh.. I spoke too soon..
[22:36] <neofax> bryceismad1: Where did you get the CD?  Did you download it and burn it?  Magazine?  Ubuntu Ship-It?
[22:36] <unop> !info amixer
[22:36] <Billll> alright
[22:36] <droopsta15> ta go,
[22:36] <ali__> neofax: not sure if i have metacity installed if thts wht u mean
[22:36] <Billll> thank you
[22:36] <unop> josh43, if you have alsa-utils installed, you ought to have amixer available
[22:36] <neofax> ali__: We will find out using the fusion icon once it is installed.
[22:37] <goat> josh43 / neofax : now i set the tv to 800x600 in xorg config but now my vga monitor is limited to 800x600 and below again :(
[22:37] <Brandano> in IL2 1946 I do get sound, but the volume is extremely low and I don't seem to have a way to control it
[22:37] <Gnea> josh43: try alsamixer
[22:37] <ali__> neofax so do i go install metacity?
[22:37] <droopsta15> .
[22:37] <Brandano> in Oblivion I get sound bursts every now andf then, but no actual reliable sound
[22:37] <_gAri-> hi there, can you please help me out where can I find the ubuntu specific kernel patch in peaces that is applied to the vanilla kernel? I mean I only want to use parts of it, not totally
[22:37] <droopsta15> gfd.
[22:37] <josh43> unop; Yeah, I do have that.. it wasn't working from irexec, so I assumed I did not have it.. I'm diving into rtfm mode :)
[22:37] <p2p> hi
[22:37] <neofax> goat: You should have two display sections in your xorg.conf.  One for the TV and one for the monitor.  Each with their own seperate resolutions.
[22:37] <inspyre> slightglitch: i dont think using ntfs in linux makes sense
[22:38] <neofax> ali__: No, just install fusion-icon and then start it.
[22:38] <p2p> könt ihr kein deutch
[22:38] <Xecuter> my friend gets operation not permited when pinging, how come?
[22:38] <p2p> deutsch
[22:38] <mrglinux> no idea ?
[22:38] <p2p> german
[22:38] <unop> josh43, there is also the ncurses based  /usr/bin/amixer  if you prefer that
[22:38] <Gnea> !de | p2p
[22:38] <inspyre> anyone else using ntfs as their filesystem?
[22:38] <Gnea> !anyone | inspyre
[22:38] <qr_> inspyre: don't use nfts as your main filesystem in linux
[22:39] <josh43> unop- it looks like you got me on the right track, thank you very much :)
[22:39] <mrglinux> both of system ping another one
[22:39] <jman888> how do i install cnr in Hardy?
[22:39] <mrglinux> but no internet in linux
[22:39] <slightglitch> No, not really....I just did the windows install to see if I could make it work right. Works, and like I said, worked great, then that was all she wrote.
[22:39] <rambo3> !lamp | knowcow
[22:39] <unop> josh43, sorry, i meant /usr/bin/alsamixer there .. my bad
[22:39] <Gnea> jman888: what is cnr?
[22:39] <mrglinux> all of things set and try like static ip- getway - DNS ...
[22:39] <mrglinux> in linux
[22:40] <ali__> neofax : followed guide to install fusion icon but i dnot think i see anything
[22:40] <mrglinux> but there is no internet
[22:40] <jman888> @ Gnea CNR Click n run Linspire
[22:40] <mrglinux> some config done in windows and internet shared
[22:40] <qr_> mrglinux: if you run route -n do you have an entry "default"?
[22:40] <alsadi> howto use the latest pidgin with apt-get magic, is it "apt-get upgrade pidgin" ?
[22:40] <neofax> Gnea: It is a dumbed down program installer brought about by Linspire.
[22:40] <inspyre> slightglitch: i think most people would agree not to use ntfs as the root filesystem
[22:40] <Gnea> neofax, jman888: we don't support anything other than synaptic.
[22:41] <neofax> ali__: It should be under System Tools in the menu.
[22:41] <goat> neofax, this is how my xorg config is, please tell me where to set the my monitor display? http://pastebin.com/m6d675ff1
[22:41] <jman888> k then
[22:41] <ali__> neofax : found it now what?
[22:41] <slightglitch> inspyre: so would be best to go through and pull a manual install? That shouldn't be  a problem...just time consuming. :)
[22:41] <mrglinux> qr_: no in route -n but in rout without any option i can see that
[22:42] <tunys> hi
[22:42] <yowshi> anyone know the mail reading probgramme and mail fetch/check programme information for evolution?>
[22:42] <Gnea> errr
[22:42] <tunys> One of my friends just got banned from several Ubuntu chans
[22:42] <yowshi> i would like to plus my gkrelm into that
[22:42] <Gnea> jman888, neofax: i take that back. :)
[22:42] <neofax> ali__: Start it.
[22:42] <tunys> he wasn't doing anything wrong, his client just went crazy
[22:42] <unop> tunys, take it up in #ubuntu-ops
[22:42] <neofax> goat: You should have a second monitor and second screen section.
[22:43] <qr_> mrglinux: sorry, it shows up as 0.0.0.0 in route -n, the second entry on that line should be your router ip.
[22:43] <tunys> unop: okay
[22:43] <ali__> neofax : done that now nothing has a close cross lol
[22:43] <goat> neofax, i dont :/
[22:43] <Gnea> jman888: what sort of programs are you looking for from the cnr?
[22:43] <lina> neofax, got a new problem :( can't set the graphic to a higher resolution then 640x480
[22:44] <JonnyD> does apt-get apache2 on ubuntu also install php?
[22:44] <mrglinux> qr_: yes i see 0.0.0.0 and Gateway may router ip
[22:44] <jman888> @Gnea Dont know Just like the convienence. Plus most of my family is bad at linux
[22:44] <neofax> ali__: Right click on the icon in the system tray and set emerald as the window decorator.
[22:44] <infinitycircuit> JonnyD, it installs: apache2 apache2-mpm-worker apache2-utils apache2.2-common on hardy
[22:45] <prince_jammys> what's the recommended file system type to use when sharing a partition between a dual-boot Windows and Linux? vfat, ntfs, or something else?
[22:45] <ali__> neofax : kk done
[22:45] <qr_> mrglinux: hrm, well I don't know what's wrong then. A misconfigured gateway is a pretty common reason for the symptoms you discribed, but it appears that yours is fine.
[22:45] <alsadi> hello, where is my answer, how to update a specific package
[22:45] <JonnyD> ok thx infintycircuit
[22:45] <neofax> lina: Make sure you have your correct HorizSync and VertRefresh for your monitor and the correct resolution in xorg.conf.
[22:45] <alsadi> howto use the latest pidgin with apt-get magic, is it "apt-get upgrade pidgin" ?
[22:45] <infinitycircuit> prince_jammys, it depends. vfat, or ntfs with ntfs-3g, or ext2 with the ext drivers for win
[22:45] <infinitycircuit> alsadi, apt-get install pidgin will upgrade it
[22:45] <Gnea> jman888: what's wrong with synaptic?
[22:45] <alsadi> thanks
[22:46] <goat> neofax, i cant find anything with info on making a second monitor and screen config for tv-out
[22:46] <unop> prince_jammys, depends on whether you want to keep permissions and other metadata intact .. in which case ext2/3
[22:46] <prince_jammys> infinitycircuit: i currectly have vfat. are there known complications to using ntfs? (i do have ntfs-3g) the partition has to be easily read-writable from either OS
[22:46] <jman888> @Gnea They have no clue about it, and used to use CNR when we had linspire.
[22:46] <mrglinux> qr_: at first about 2 hours ago with this config internet exist in linux but disconnect without any reason and switch to windows in this pc and same config and internet exists but when i change to linux there is no any connection
[22:47] <infinitycircuit> prince_jammys, i don't know i don't have any windows installs not in vbox nowadays
[22:47] <Gnea> jman888: well, surely they realize that from migrating from one distro to another is going to require change in more ways than one.
[22:47] <qr_> mrglinux: Hmm, I don't know, it might be a driver problem.
[22:47] <prince_jammys> unop: i don't care much about that, though the ability to recover deleted files from my current vfat bugs me
[22:48] <prince_jammys> unop: i should probably go with ext2/ext3. are there known difficulties?
[22:49] <unop> prince_jammys, i'd say ext3 then.. i'm not sure how recovery works with the ntfs-3g driver and i suspect it isn't very good either - though i prefer to keep ntfs-3g for removable media, as i don't have the rights to install the extX driver on window machines sometimes
[22:49] <jman888> @gnea i doubt they even realize its not linspire they mostly just use firefox. So dont mess around much.
[22:49] <unop> prince_jammys, none that i know of (yet)
[22:49] <KenBW2> whats the diff between ext2 and ext3
[22:49] <jman888> @gnea but are mad they have no flash player, what ever happened to automatix
[22:49] <neofax> goat: Try this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Separate_x-screens_on_Monitor_and_TV
[22:49] <unop> KenBW2, the latter maintains a journal
[22:49] <prince_jammys> unop: i mean i don't want deleted files to be easily recoverable, like they are in vfat
[22:49] <infinitycircuit> KenBW2, ext3 is a journaling filesystem
[22:49] <KenBW2> unop, infinitycircuit: eh?
[22:50] <Gnea> jman888: automatix turned out to be a flop.  however... http://phorolinux.com/how-to-use-cnr-service-on-ubuntu.html
[22:50] <prince_jammys> unop: so i install a driver in windows and that's it? gparted can do the conversion, right?
[22:50] <unop> prince_jammys, yep, that's pretty much it
[22:50] <alsadi> KenBW2: do you know what does that word mean ?
[22:50] <Gnea> !flash | jman888
[22:50] <neofax> I cannot change the log level in SAMBA.  I have tried log level 10, but this does not work.  How do I fix this?
[22:50] <JonnyD> guys i keep getting these errors, how can i fix it?
[22:50] <alsadi> journaling
[22:50] <KenBW2> alsadi: not in a hard drive sense, no
[22:50] <JonnyD> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[22:50] <JonnyD> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[22:50] <JonnyD>         LANGUAGE = (unset),
[22:50] <JonnyD>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[22:50] <JonnyD>         LANG = "en_GB.UTF-8"
[22:50] <FloodBot2> JonnyD: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:50] <JonnyD>     are supported and installed on your system.
[22:50] <prince_jammys> unop: thanks, i'll do that. do you have a clue of what a good source of this driver is, or just google>
[22:51] <jman888> @gnea Thanks
[22:51] <unop> KenBW2, a journal is a log of every action taken on the filesystem .. so if you want to recover or undelete a file, you can replay the journal
[22:51] <qr_> prince_jammys: have you considered using an encrypted filesystem if you're worried about file recovery
[22:51] <alsadi> KenBW2: it means that it heals faster and more reliable
[22:51] <prince_jammys> qr_: briefly :) haven't looked into it, though.
[22:51] <alsadi> after power failer ..etc.
[22:51] <goat> neofax, so i must make a second device aswell?
[22:51] <lina> neofax, how do i find that out? its and old monitor.. Samsung syncmaster... its not on their site anymore
[22:51] <KenBW2> unop: so it's got OS X's TimeMachine built in?
[22:51] <Gnea> jman888: good luck.
[22:52] <a> neofax: its neku the icon of the launched fusion isnt showing
[22:52] <unop> prince_jammys, I'd just google actually .. had the page bookmarked somewhere, can't find it now
[22:52] <qr_> prince_jammys: well it would probably be a good place to look. You could try truecrypt which provides full disc encryption for windows and linux.
[22:52] <neofax> Gnea: Automatix did not turn out to be a flop.  The developers moved on to other endeavours.  As a matter of fact Automatix forced Ubuntu to do a better job at building the system.  Also, I think it spawned Mint which is a better version of Ubuntu for ease of use.
[22:52] <unop> KenBW2, well, not really -- the "timemachine" works quite differently
[22:53] <prince_jammys> qr_: thanks, i'll look into that
[22:53] <KenBW2> unop: but the functionality/faacility is technicaally there?
[22:53] <neofax> lina: Google for hsync and the brand/model
[22:53] <qr_> prince_jammys: it's actually lower level filesystem encryption. meaning you can use whatever FS you want on top of it and your data is unrecoverable unless someone has the volume password.
[22:53] <neofax> a: You will need to start the program again.
[22:54] <acidx> KenBW2, no. what time machine does is backup. a journaling filesystem makes filesystem recovery faster, since fs-checking utilities don't need to traverse all the disk to find inconsistencies: it just needs to read the journal.
[22:54] <josh43> neofax, It at least got across the point that we should have 100% free, and then "easily usable" versions :)
[22:54] <neofax> goat: Yes, you will need to create double screens, moitors
[22:54] <a> neofax i did i restarted pc awell but the icon that should show at top right isnt
[22:54] <goat> neofax, doing so now...
[22:54] <KenBW2> acidx: so the journal is a list of changes to the hard drive?
[22:55] <neofax> josh43: The only bad thing automatix had was the compiling from source bit as it does not inform apt
[22:55] <unop> KenBW2, no, the time-machine kind of maintains revisions to files .. a journal only maintains changes to the filesystem - older changes are discarded when not needed anymore
[22:55] <Gnea> neofax: Automatix was not the sole reason for Ubuntu to get better.
[22:55] <cocoa117> i am running a amd64 distribution of ubuntu hardy server, how do i install package that is for 32bit with apt-get?
[22:55] <acidx> kenbw2: in essence, yes. just before the hard drive is changed, an entry is created in the journal. then the change occurs as normal. when the changes are finished, another entry says that it's finished.
[22:55] <neofax> a: Then restart it and if you want it every time, have it autostart in GNOME.  I do not know how to do this, as I am a KDE user.
[22:55] <KenBW2> unop, acidx: so it keeps a log of the last change made to a file?
[22:56] <striker_> hi guys
[22:56] <striker_> im really new with the ubuntu thing
[22:56] <JonnyD> Guys how can I fish this? http://pastebin.com/d58c7f8c1
[22:56] <JonnyD> *fix
[22:56] <unop> KenBW2, right .. though the exact mechanism of the journal depends on the filesystem .. different filesystems do it differently
[22:56] <striker_> i need help installing drivers , etc...
[22:56] <acidx> kenbw2: so, in the event of a power failure, for example, filesystem checking utilities will ignore the changes without an "acknowledge" journal entry.
[22:56] <neofax> Gnea: I know, but it was a contributor.
[22:56] <striker_> i looked u in the forums but couldnt c anything suitable
[22:56] <infinitycircuit> striker_, sudo aptitude install locales
[22:56] <mercutio22> hello guys
[22:57] <unop> !automatix
[22:57] <Gnea> neofax: and yes, automatix was a flop *because* the developers moved on and left it on the side of the road.
[22:57] <mercutio22> something is delaying my login time
[22:57] <KenBW2> unop, acidx; so how does that not double the HD space taken up?
[22:57] <striker_> what?
[22:57] <unop> KenBW2, because only the differences are logged, not copies
[22:57] <infinitycircuit> striker_, you need to fix your locales. sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales or if that fails sudo apt-get install locales
[22:58] <neofax> Gnea: How about all the programs that people use that are not developed now?  Are they flops?
[22:58] <atha> hi, ive just installed compiz but it doenst suite very well.... how do i remove it?
[22:58] <Gnea> neofax: such as?
[22:58] <acidx> KenBW2, journals takes space, yes, but it is usually worth it. it's not much, actually: it's not the data, just some information like the current time, the status (finished), which file, etc, so it's quite compact.
[22:58] <KenBW2> unop: oh, so as a basic example if i had file.txt, with the contents "abc", then  changed it to "abcd" the journal would only log the "d"?
[22:58] <goat> neofax, restarting x now, holding thumbs...
[22:58] <mercutio22> Ok, some more info: If I create another user, it logs in 20 s earlier
[22:58] <unop> KenBW2, yea, something like that
[22:58] <alsadi> KenBW2: no not in that sense, it just keep sufficient information to make filesystem check faster and makes the file system always consistent even if the power failure was in the middle of some intermediate operation
[22:58] <Gnea> neofax: seriously, this is an offtopic discussion, either cut it off now or let's take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:59] <neofax> Gnea: Putty
[22:59] <unop> KenBW2, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journaling_file_system
[22:59] <JonnyD> http://pastebin.com/d58c7f8c1 <-- can anyone help?
[23:00] <ynotest> is there a program that can support itunes link on ubuntu? (like podcast or something)
[23:00] <Gnea> !ot | neofax
[23:00] <infinitycircuit> JonnyD, i already told you. something is wrong with your locales. sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales or sudo apt-get install locales
[23:00] <infinitycircuit> make sure one is selected
[23:00] <JonnyD> neither of those worked
[23:01] <JonnyD> i still get the error
[23:01] <Vixus> Right, I apt-get installed apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5... now why won't apache process php files properly? :D
[23:02] <qr_> Vixus: you probably need to enable the module, check /etc/apache2/mods-enabled for the config file for mod_php
[23:02] <Vixus> right
[23:02] <rkpisanu> how to configure default run application with your extentions in gnome ?
[23:02] <Brandano> Gnea: actually, i do have one package that I am missing and that seems to be out of the repositories because is not "actively maintained". Comical. I think probably it isn't maintained because it seems to work fine...
[23:02] <unop> JonnyD, try this.   sudo aptitude reinstall locales util-linux-locales
[23:03] <Vixus> qr_: What do I need to check for?
[23:03] <KenBW2> acidx, unop: so when the power fails and it checks the file system its basically reading the journal aand checking for non-affirmed changes?
[23:03] <Brandano> I mean, Comical is the name
[23:03] <acidx> KenBW2, yes.
[23:03] <KenBW2> acidx: any other applications of the jurnal?
[23:03] <KenBW2> journal*
[23:03] <acidx> KenBW2, none that i know of.
[23:04] <KenBW2> acidx: does ntfs have that - ie with scandisk?
[23:04] <EFG> How can I add a program to my gnome "start menu"?
[23:04] <acidx> KenBW2, but if you ever had power failures on a large and slow disk, you will welcome journals :)
[23:04] <qr_> Vixus: a file with php in the name. Also check /etc/apache2/mods-available . The apache paradigm is that available modules have config files in mods-available and you turn them on by creating links to them in mods-enabled.
[23:04] <acidx> KenBW2, don't know.
[23:04] <lWizardl> does anyone know of a linux alternate to quick books?
[23:04] <KenBW2> acidx, unp: thanks for info :)
[23:05] <acidx> :)
[23:05] <mercutio22> guys I have a problem  my  login time is staggering long. Please help me solve it. Here's what I know: If I create another user, it logs in 20 s earlier. Here is my .xsession-errors log file: http://www.pastebin.ca/1097401
[23:05] <neofax> lWizardl: Gnucash if iirc
[23:05] <Vixus> qr_, there's a php5.load and php5.conf in mods-enabled
[23:05] <mercutio22> I is taking 58 seconds to log in
[23:05] <mercutio22> *it
[23:05] <qr_> Vixus: hmm well it should be working then. Have you restarted apache since the install?
[23:05] <Vixus> qr_, likewise in mods-available
[23:05] <EFG> How do I add an app to the application launcher that didnt show up but IS installed?
[23:05] <QueenOfHearts> hello. Can someone explain how you would mount devices like mp3 players that aren't mounted automatically?
[23:06] <Vixus> qr_, yes, with /etc/init.d/apache2 stop.. it appears to start itself again
[23:06] <qr_> Vixus: restarts itself? that's quite strange. Try using restart instead of stop and see if that works. Otherwise I'm out of ideas.
[23:06] <Vixus> qr_: Works now.. sorry
[23:07] <qr_> Vixus: ahh, I see. Cheers.
[23:07] <goat> sigh
[23:07] <mercutio22> I was suspecting compiz was causing the trouble, but now I am not so sure
[23:07] <goat> now my pc monitor display is fine, but the tv display shows nothing
[23:07] <EFG> Anyone?
[23:08] <goodbyegravity_> EFG: Preferences --> Main Menu
[23:08] <EFG> I installed Truecrypt with a .deb file and it never showed up.
[23:08] <mercutio22> EFG, before doing anything, log out and back in. Maybe it will be listed next time.
[23:08] <goodbyegravity_> EFG: You can add a new entrythere by linking to the executable file'sname
[23:08] <rkpisanu> how to edit gnome mime application ?
[23:09] <mercutio22> EFG, that happens to me sometimes.
[23:09] <user01> hi my amsn isnt working
[23:09] <mercutio22> Anyone has a clue on my errors?
[23:09] <KenBW2> user01: what happens?
[23:10] <KenBW2> user01: i have a friend with amsn troubles
[23:10] <user01> says logging and then reconnecting
[23:10] <KenBW2> user01: does it ever get to log in?
[23:10] <user01> KenBW2, nope
[23:10] <goat> Error: Can't open display: 0.1
[23:10] <user01> KenBW2, ill do it now
[23:11] <EFG> Eh.. I can't ADD truecrypt to system tools
[23:11] <KenBW2> user01: hers has the logging in screen for ages then throws a message at her
[23:11] <naxa> hi! can I make gnome display a splash screen why loading? (similar to kde)
[23:11] <tumplak> güenas noches
[23:11] <KenBW2> user01: she's finnish so i dont understand a word it says lol
[23:11] <user01> KenBW2, it says logging in forever
[23:11] <KenBW2> user01: like i just described?
[23:12] <user01> KenBW2, i think
[23:12] <KenBW2> user01: yea i think you have the same. Hardy?
[23:12] <user01> KenBW2, ill get you that other message here after forever stops
[23:12] <user01> KenBW2, yep
[23:12] <RodMcKay> ﻿﻿hi, for a file copy benchmark i want to create files with a certain size. is dd's parameter bs the right way?
[23:12] <nalle303> Is it possible to install Ubuntu 8.o4 on the same drive as Vista sp1?
[23:12] <KenBW2> user01: before you log in does it have a thing telling you to upgrade amsn?
[23:13] <KenBW2> nalle303: definitely
[23:13] <EFG> How do I UNINSTALL something?
[23:13] <naxa> nalle303, not the same drive, but the same hdd is ok
[23:13] <KenBW2> EFG: go to synaptic aand untick what you wat rid of
[23:13] <user01> KenBW2, dont see anything . . . it is amsn 0.97
[23:14] <naxa> nalle303, it uses a different file system, eg ext3 instead of ntfs. you should create a different partition
[23:14] <EFG> Its not there KenEW2
[23:14] <tumplak> good night to all people
[23:14] <nalle303> How? Vista wont let me start the live cd.
[23:14] <KenBW2> EFG: whats not there
[23:14] <EFG> Truecrypt
[23:14] <naxa> nalle303, I think it's not Vista but your bios that won't let you do it
[23:14] <KenBW2> nalle303: you put the cd before turning the pc on
[23:15] <KenBW2> EFG: thats the app name?
[23:15] <EFG> yes
[23:15] <nalle303> no,no it worked before i installed Vista SP1
[23:15] <naxa> nalle303, KenBW2 is right, no operation system can disallow using a live cd
[23:15] <BSG75> anyone know howto install e17 under 8.04 ubuntu?
[23:15] <naxa> nalle303, then you should check if vista disabled this feature or if you burned the live cd corretly
[23:16] <naxa> nalle303, it would be very strange and seems impossible for me for a livecd to not work
[23:16] <mrglinux> qr_: i  try with live ubuntu 8.04 and set dhcp and internet connection exits here .. what is your idea? in live is true .. is it possible my internet doesn't connect for install some packges ?
[23:16] <nalle303> ive googled it a bit and found that bitlocker installs a mbr protector
[23:16] <mrglinux>  i  try with live ubuntu 8.04 and set dhcp and internet connection exits here .. what is your idea? in live is true .. is it possible my internet doesn't connect for install some packges ?
[23:16] <goat> neofax, you still around? :(
[23:17] <KenBW2> nalle303: the livecd doesnt need the mbr iirc
[23:17] <KenBW2> EFG: how did you install it
[23:17] <nalle303> Vista SP1 won't install on dual-boot systems
[23:17] <nalle303> first hit on google
[23:17] <EFG> Downloaded a script, it generated a .deb, I installed it
[23:17] <naxa> nalle303, i think that vista has changed your bios or you should change the boot order, so booting from cd is allowed and comes for the first time
[23:18] <user01> KenBW2, maybe it is this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=880424
[23:18] <KenBW2> nalle303: i ran an ubuntu livecd on an ubuntu machine the other day
[23:18] <naxa> nalle303, this is not right, i have vista and xp and linux... it's just they want you not to know this, i think.
[23:18] <KenBW2> user01: im corresponding with the friend, see what she has
[23:19] <naxa> nalle303, maybe it's easier if you install vista first but i have all 3 on 1 hdd without any problem, they're working
[23:19] <Jaush> I have a question about getting connected with an Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG if anyone can help.
[23:19] <nalle303> Ive got vista SP1 installed
[23:19] <johnny__> lol
[23:19] <KenBW2> user01: http://rapidshare.com/files/134979364/amsn_0.97.2-1.deb loos handy
[23:19] <KenBW2> user01: looks*
[23:19] <larson9999> if i had vista installed i wouldn't go braggin about it :)
[23:19] <neofax> goat: yes
[23:19] <nalle303> before tonight i had a XP ubuntu dualboot
[23:20] <KenBW2> nalle303: what happened then?
[23:20] <Jaush> On Hardy dist.
[23:20] <neofax> SAMBA does not log debug info.  Any help?
[23:20] <goat> neofax, now the monitors resolution is fine, but theres nothing on the monitor and i get Error: Can't open display: 0.1
[23:20] <user01> KenBW2, im installing that and seeing if it works
[23:20] <szkodnik> hello
[23:20] <EFG> It installed in /usr/bin
[23:21] <neofax> goat: OK, first, pastebin your xorg.conf
[23:21] <KenBW2> EFG: i think its a caase of finding what the ackage is called
[23:21] <nalle303> the cd starts to boot then text just flashes by and im booting in to vista
[23:21] <EFG> Truecrypt is it.
[23:21] <szkodnik> can anuone tell if verb "purpose" has a plural form? (I'm Polish, and I need to tranlate sth into english)
[23:21] <EFG> It installed in /usr/bin/
[23:21] <EFG> I can start it from there
[23:21] <larson9999> i still don't get it but i've been hearing for more than 10 years that gnome apps don't look good in kde and vice versa.  look the same to me.  if i ever meet another linux user i'm gonna ask him to explain that to me.
[23:21] <EFG> but theres no icon in the app launcher
[23:22] <user01> KenBW2, it works now :)  give that to your finnish friend :)
[23:22] <goat> neofax, http://pastebin.com/mc00be59
[23:22] <KenBW2> user01: excellent, thanks
[23:22] <user01> KenBW2, maybe she will give you a kiss
[23:22] <goat> i dunno what to do now :(
[23:22] <BSG75> larson9999: fanboys don't need reasons ..
[23:22] <Yedia_RACKNORDDE> cv
[23:22] <Yedia_RACKNORDDE> cv
[23:22] <Yedia_RACKNORDDE> c
[23:22] <Yedia_RACKNORDDE> vcdgdef
[23:22] <Yedia_RACKNORDDE> dfq
[23:22] <KenBW2> user01: doubt it lol
[23:22] <FloodBot2> Yedia_RACKNORDDE: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:22] <Yedia_RACKNORDDE> er
[23:22] <Yedia_RACKNORDDE> gsdged
[23:23] <szkodnik> hmm that was stupid...
[23:23] <user01> KenBW2, then impress her with big words like saippuakivikauppias
[23:23] <Jibs> hey, im new to linux and have some questions
[23:23] <Yedia_RACKNORDDE> hi
[23:23] <KenBW2> user01: ?
[23:23] <Gnea> !ask | Jibs
[23:23] <BSG75> I am told almost regularly by my fellow geek friends about kde 4.1 is oh so superior to gnome .. I still can't find what so superior about it .. and I have been using linux before it was cool to use linux .. but what do I know :)
[23:24] <Yedia_RACKNORDDE> Explosé De Rire FloodBot2 !
[23:24] <larson9999> i was upgrading my wife's laptop and got messages that packages that were installed were empty or something and now it won't let me upgrade :(
[23:24] <varsendaggr> akk why is hardy suck a memory hog?
[23:24] <Jibs> lol, k ty
[23:24] <user01> KenBW2, its the longest palindrome in any language . . . and its in finnish :)
[23:24] <varsendaggr> my laptop runs friggen hot
[23:24] <varsendaggr> any solutions?
[23:24] <Jaush> I have a question about getting connected with an Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG if anyone can help.
[23:24] <KenBW2> user01: well if my perception of the language is right, theres a lot of long words on finnish
[23:24] <szkodnik> anyone knows? please, ?I need to know it, and can't find it anywhere
[23:24] <Gnea> BSG75: Enlightenment is superior to both, but we don't get into that here ;)
[23:24] <Xecuter> how do i open ports with iptables?
[23:24] <Xecuter> and nat?
[23:24] <xhunter> Hello
[23:24] <user01> KenBW2, but thats a palindromee
[23:24] <larson9999> jwm is the best
[23:24] <Calvin87> Hello all
[23:24] <Jibs> When dual booting vista and linux (vista first) when on ubuntu, can i access files from vista?
[23:25] <Gnea> !iptabes | Xecuter
[23:25] <KenBW2> varsendaggr: open it up, blow around in it and clean the dust away
[23:25] <xhunter> How to install .tar.bz2 file ?
[23:25] <BSG75> Gnea: running that on my laptop .. wife loves gnome .. will kill me if I change it :)
[23:25] <user01> KenBW2, its special
[23:25] <infinitycircuit> psh twm is best
[23:25] <KenBW2> user01: palindrome?
[23:25] <Calvin87> I am tyring to setup dual displays
[23:25] <Gnea> !iptables | Xecuter
[23:25] <BSG75> I could be right or I could be happy .. I chose to be happy :)
[23:25] <Myrtti> varsendaggr: clean the fans
[23:25] <neofax> goat: Change the second card to "card1" in its device section and screen section.
[23:25] <Vooloo> when I login to ubuntu I can no longer use shift or caps lock! what has happened? :(
[23:25] <larson9999> infinitycircuit, screen you dummy :)
[23:25] <Calvin87> The left panel needs to be a lower res than the right panel
[23:25] <Gnea> BSG75: lol
[23:25] <xhunter> How to install a .tar.bz2 file ?
[23:25] <Xecuter> ty Gnea
[23:25] <user01> KenBW2, it spells the same word forward and backwards
[23:25] <Calvin87> Ive got that set ok - but on the right panel - the gdm and panel bars and stuff do not take up the whole screen -- they only take up some of the screen
[23:25] <varsendaggr> ok thanks
[23:25] <Myrtti> xhunter: what are you trying to install?
[23:25] <KenBW2> user01: thats well cool
[23:25] <KenBW2> user01: ...what does it mean
[23:25] <goat> neofax, its the same card?
[23:25] <Calvin87> I need the displays to be cloned (not stretched)
[23:26] <user01> KenBW2, like otto :)
[23:26] <BSG75> Gnea: you wouldn't know of any repos for e17?
[23:26] <goat> neofax, there is only 1 card in the pc?
[23:26] <user01> KenBW2, soap stone dealer i think
[23:26] <KenBW2> user01: lol, cool
[23:26] <neofax> goat: And?
[23:26] <BSG75> Gnea: I am about to reinstall via cvs
 a tar.bz2 file
[23:26] <Jibs> So can u access media files from other partitions while on a different OS on a different partition?
[23:26] <Myrtti> xhunter: no, which program
[23:26] <goat> neofax, ok :P ill try
[23:26] <EFG> so i just have to run it from /usr/bin/?
[23:26] <EFG> or can i make an icon in the app launcher some how/
[23:27] <JonnyD> how do i install perl? some apps need it. is it apt-get install perl?
 JBrt
 lol
 What's the command that let me install a .tar.bz2 file
[23:27] <Jaush> Need help getting my wireless driver installed correctly. Anyone?
[23:27] <wh00mp> :is everything installed on ubuntu sudo apt-get or will i have to un tar.gz some programs in the future
[23:27] <Jibs> please help (answer my question)
[23:27] <Myrtti> xhunter: you don't install tar.bz2 file
[23:27] <Myrtti> xhunter: it's a compressed package
[23:28] <Myrtti> xhunter: kind of like zipfile
 so we need to do for this ?
[23:28] <xhunter> emm
[23:28] <Jibs> Ooo, i didnt know that
[23:28] <Myrtti> xhunter: tar xvjf
[23:28] <h_> Hello evry one!!
[23:28] <cedric__> Jibs, the answer to your question is yes, you can
[23:28] <Jibs> ok tyvm
[23:29] <cedric__> xhunter, you can right click from nautilus that file, and uncompress it
[23:29] <Jibs> how do you do so? cedric?
[23:29] <h_> does any one know how to install a 32bits application(not an open source one) on an amd64?
[23:30] <cedric__> Jibs, open the folder with nautilus (places > home dir)
[23:30] <Jibs> oh wait, kinda like how when running on C: u can access a CD?
[23:30] <wh00mp> what should i use for usenet groups that is built in and supported by ubuntu?
 I did
 but....
[23:30] <Jibs> ooo ok, thank you very much
[23:30] <xhunter> lot of files ^^
[23:30] <cedric__> xhunter, extract files here
[23:30] <JonnyD> whats the command to reboot?
 I extracted
[23:30] <qr_> JonnyD: reboot
[23:30] <cedric__> or you can double click and see the components
[23:30] <Smegzor1> I have two panels on my gnome desktop and I've been getting a lot of errors after login when the desktop is setting up saying it can't load several random things in my panels.  It asks me if I want to delete them from the panels or not.  Whats going on with that?  Is it a fault in gnome or could the apps in my panels be buggy some how?  The latest victim is firefox.
 then ?
[23:30] <Kaz___> are there any application firewalls for ubuntu?  (ie ZoneAlarm, Sygate, LittleSnitch (mac) like *application* firewalls)
 The program is Brutus
[23:30] <KenBW2> JonnyD: sudo shutdown -r now
[23:30] <sun01tech> how can i encrypt specific folders like where evolution keeps my  emails
[23:30] <cedric__> xhunter, try to look to any readme file
[23:31] <KenBW2> JonnyD: or sudo shutdown -R now - i caant remember
[23:31] <JonnyD> got it :D
[23:31] <JonnyD> [23:30:39] <qr_> JonnyD: reboot < makes sense :P
[23:31] <cedric__> xhunter, you may need to open a terminal and run .configure
[23:31] <johnny__> Smegzor1, just let your panel delete them, then re-add them.
[23:31] <wh00mp> sun01tech; truecrypt?
[23:31] <cedric__> xhunter, and then make install
 ok let me try this moment
[23:31] <Jibs> I know that you must install a certain program to play games on ubuntu, does this affect RAM?
[23:31] <h_> does any one know how to install a 32bits application(not an open source one) on an amd64?
[23:31] <Smegzor1> johnny_ any idea what the problem is?
[23:32] <wh00mp> h_; virtual box?
[23:32] <cedric__> xhunter, remember the first time you do configure you may find you need to install some extra dev libraries
[23:32] <KenBW2> Jibs: are you referring to wine?
[23:32] <cedric__> xhunter, what program are you tring to install?
 Brutus
[23:32] <h_> whOOmp_; virtual what?
[23:32] <wh00mp> what is the best program for usenet for ubuntu?
[23:32] <h_> i didn't get what you mean by virtual box
[23:32] <wh00mp> h_; virutal box it is built into ubuntu
[23:32] <cedric__> can't you find that program within synaptic?
[23:33] <cedric__> xhunter, can't you find that program within synaptic?
[23:33] <wh00mp> h_; goto applications then system tools and it should be there
[23:33] <h_> don't think so
[23:33] <xbabe> hola, quiero asociar una ip a una direccion web sin que busque en los dns ¿como lo puedo hacer?
[23:33] <xhunter> brutus-server-1.0.0.tar.bz2
[23:33] <xhunter> cedric__ : brutus-server-1.0.0.tar.bz2
[23:33] <h_> ok
[23:33] <johnny__> Smegzor1, no idea
[23:33] <johnny__> Smegzor1, its what has fixed it before though.
[23:33] <KenBW2> Jibs: i think because its not an emulator its not very resource hungry
[23:33] <Billll>  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7540282.stm  <--- hell froze over D:
[23:33] <Jibs> Ok, with wine, does it draw from processor? ram? or etc?
[23:33] <wh00mp> h_; virutal box lets you emulate other OS within ubuntu like running windows xp on a diffrent screen in ubuntu
[23:33] <cedric__> xhunter, I mean to try to look for the program within the repositories
[23:33] <sun01tech> no truecrypt wont work cause ubuntu needs to access it automatically
[23:33] <Smegzor1> i've done that several times but they keep crashing
[23:34] <h_> like wine?
[23:34] <Smegzor1> its not constant though.
[23:34] <KenBW2> Jibs: i used to run a couple of programs with wine and never saw nything *too* bad
[23:34] <wh00mp> h_; never used wine
[23:34] <johnny__> Smegzor1, indeed.
[23:34] <wh00mp> h_; more like VMware
[23:34] <h_> it's a windows emulator
[23:34] <Jibs> ok cool
[23:34] <wh00mp> h_; it emulates all OS
 I'm a little newbie in installing things like that can you connect to my ssh account ?
[23:34] <cedric__> xhunter, I couldn't find it in the repositories. So keep on trying to install using the tar.gz
[23:35] <qr_> h_: wine is not a windows emulator
[23:35] <h_> that sound cool, but i need to use the application in my own OS
[23:35] <johnny__> wine is an application layer...
 Brutus is a password bruteforcer
[23:35] <cedric__> xhunter, are you sure you want me to do so? Better try yourself first
[23:35] <Smegzor1> I do have another error at login which might be related to this.  Its quite long so I'll pastebin it..
[23:35] <h_> ah ok thanks for the information
 ok wait a sec
[23:35] <naxa> every time i open an image and wants to save as it whit eye of gnome, the same but seemingly  non-default directory opens. how can i make eye of gnome remember the last directory? or is it possible that my config files are write protected?
[23:35] <johnny__> Smegzor1, yeah good idea.
[23:35] <cedric__> check this
[23:35] <wh00mp> what is the best usenet client for ubuntu?
[23:36] <cedric__> xhunter, check on synaptic for this program
[23:36] <wh00mp> and will filezilla work
[23:36] <cedric__> xhunter, sucrack
[23:36] <cedric__> xhunter, you can try from terminal: sudo apr-get install sucrack
[23:36] <xhunter> ahhh
[23:36] <xhunter> cool
[23:36] <killedbyants> Hi. I'm having a problem with installing Gsynaptics. I know what I'm supposed to do with the xorg.conf file, but nothing seems to be making a difference. Can anyone help me?
 ok moment
[23:37] <cedric__> xhunter, sucrack is a multithreaded Linux/UNIX tool for cracking local user
[23:37] <cedric__> accounts via wordlist bruteforcing su
[23:37] <fonzarelli> killedbyants: have you logged out/back in or restarted since you added the line to xorg.conf?
[23:37] <h_> wh00mp_; is there any other solutions than to use a virtual box?
[23:37] <killedbyants> yes, several times
[23:37] <insta> has anyone been able to play bluray yet?
 yes it works
[23:37] <killedbyants> usually when i do, it seems to misplace my graphics card
[23:37] <fonzarelli> killedbyants: can you put your xorg.conf up on pastebin?
[23:37] <Smegzor1> i'm having major network issues and can't raise any websites atm.  I'll just have to type the error in here.  its a couple of lines.
[23:37] <JonnyD> how do i stop apache? i know restart
[23:37] <cedric__> xhunter, you mean the sucrack or intalling brutus?
[23:38] <fonzarelli> JonnyD: /etc/init.d/httpd stop
[23:38] <killedbyants> and i have to reconfigure xserver
 i mean sucrack
[23:38] <JonnyD> cheers
[23:38] <cedric__> xhunter, ok good
[23:38] <killedbyants> what is pastebin?
 Can we brute force emails with sucrack ?
[23:38] <fonzarelli> killedbyants: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:39] <fonzarelli> killedbyants: paste the contents of the file into that page, then give me the link so i can check it out
[23:39] <goat_> neofax
[23:39] <killedbyants> okay, just one second
[23:39] <cedric__> xhunter, no idea. I just found a progarm similar to what you were looking for
[23:39] <Smegzor1> User's $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved.  File should be owned by user and have 644 permissions.  User's $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by other users.
 ok thanks :]
[23:39] <goat_> neofax: i think my whole ubuntu installation is now f**ked
[23:39] <Smegzor1> I get that at every login (just mine I think)
[23:39] <KenBW2> user01: its fixed her issue as well :)
[23:39] <h_> so whit virtualbox i can run any i386 software on my amd64?
[23:39] <neofax> goat_: How did that happen?
[23:40] <cedric__> xhunter, can you help me on reproducing a scenario?
[23:40] <goat_> neofax: i cant boot into x, i cant boot into recovery mode
[23:40] <johnny__> Smegzor1, ewww,, thats never good.
[23:40] <Smegzor1> the .dmrc file doesn't seem to exist.
 pm
[23:40] <naxa> hey when i cannot select text with mouse or shift key in input boxes in xchat. how can i fix this?
[23:40] <Jag_> argh..
[23:40] <goat_> neofax: when i was able, half of it was corrupt
[23:40] <cedric__> xhunter, I want to see if you get a duplicate item when editing the menu item of ubuntu
[23:40] <JonnyD> how do i remove phpmyadmin completely?
[23:40] <Smegzor1> what does it mean and how do I fix it?
[23:40] <Jag_> been trying to install mac OSX on my pc..
[23:40] <goat_> neofax: ascii chars etc
[23:40] <neofax> goat_: What does the boot say?
[23:40] <cedric__> xhunter, can you help me?
 yes
[23:40] <goat_> neofax: err gives loads of erros
[23:40] <Smegzor1> I googled it but came up empty.
 but sorry can you explain more ?
 i give you ssh account in do what you want
[23:41] <cedric__> xhunter, yes
[23:41] <neofax> goat_: That sucks.
 ok ?
[23:41] <johnny__> Smegzor1, create it and give it 644 permissions .
[23:41] <goat_> neofax: all i did was change the config like you saix, restarted x and it froze on a blank screen
[23:41] <cedric__> xhunter, no, just try this please
[23:41] <Smegzor1> ok
[23:41] <stroyan> h_: amd64 hardware can run 32 bit operating systems.  And most 64-bit operating systems can run 32-bit software.  But you left out all the details about what kind of software you want to run.  So people are making many assumptions about those details.
[23:41] <goat_> neofax: then i restarted and it was screwed
 what should i try ?
[23:41] <cedric__> xhunter, right clcik on applications and edit menu item
[23:41] <killedbyants> http://paste.ubuntu.com/36009/
[23:41] <goat_> neofax: what do i do now :/
[23:41] <sluimers> Can someone help? I got an error while trying to compile drm kernel modules -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/36008/
[23:41] <JonnyD> whats the command to find a file?
[23:42] <JonnyD> or where something is
[23:42] <cedric__> xhunter, then create a new menu
[23:42] <Smegzor1> oh!  it exists now.  I never found it last time I did ls .dmrc
 i did
[23:42] <Smegzor1> I'll check and change its permissions
[23:42] <qr_> JonnyD: there are several, it depends how you want to look for it.
 then ?
[23:42] <johnny__> Smegzor1, this is what mine says : [Desktop]
[23:42] <johnny__> Session=gnome
[23:42] <cedric__> xhunter, and finally you move an item to that folder
[23:42] <cedric__> xhunter, check if it is moved or duplicated
[23:42] <Smegzor1> just that?
[23:42] <LordMetroid> What package do I need to install for: configure: error: gFTP needs GLIB 1.2.3 or higher
[23:42] <JonnyD> i installed phpmyadmin but im going to remove it, i can do apt-get remove but im guessing some files will be left over.. how do i find these?
 the name : comment :
[23:42] <cedric__> xhunter, from right panel to left panel
[23:42] <qr_> JonnyD: there's find, whereis, locate and which, all of which do different things.
[23:43] <cedric__> xhunter, just drag the item
[23:43] <JonnyD> ok
[23:43] <JonnyD> thx
[23:43] <qr_> JonnyD: you can do apt-get purge to remove a package and all config files as well.
[23:43] <Vixus> Has anyone here used Beast?
[23:43] <qr_> JonnyD: apt-get purge packagename that is
[23:43] <johnny__> Smegzor1, then right click on it and make sure you can read write it in properties.
[23:43] <neofax> goat_: Then use your ubuntu CD as a rescue CD.  Boot into the liveCD and then open terminal.  sudo mkdir /tmp/root. Then mount -t ext3 /dev/sdaX /tmp/root. sudo gedit /tmp/root/etc/X11/xorg.conf and change it back.
[23:43] <cedric__> xhunter, did you get what I want to check?
[23:43] <Smegzor1> mine contains the same text.  How do I see what permissions it has now?
 nop
 it didnt work
[23:44] <johnny__> Smegzor1, right click on it and select properties.
[23:44] <cedric__> xhunter, for example. You create a new item called test
 I tried to run mbrola a free TTS engine on my PC but i can't run it because it is not support an amd-64
[23:44] <sluimers> Can someone help? I got an error while trying to compile drm kernel modules -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/36008/
[23:44] <Smegzor1> hmm..  nautilus can't see it (I have that set to show hidden files)
 Can we talk in pm please ?
[23:44] <goat_> neofax: i think more is broken then that now? it says the automatic fsck check fails on the file system and then gives a bunch of command now found on boot
[23:44] <cedric__> xhunter, then go to accesories and move the calculator (on right panel) to that new menu in the left panel
[23:44] <johnny__> Smegzor1, CTRL H
[23:44] <cedric__> xhunter, sure
[23:44] <Smegzor1> oops!  yes it can
[23:45] <goat_> neofax: when i managed to nano xorg.conf before it got worse, it was just ascii
[23:45] <JonnyD> is there a way i can run the phpmyadmin config again?
[23:45] <JonnyD> it shows a menu after install and i selected the wrong thing
[23:45] <johnny__> Smegzor1, once done CTRL ALT BCKSP
[23:45] <hydroponic> How do I ignore a package when doing an apt-get upgrade? There's one package I don't want upgraded
[23:45] <Smegzor1> it says I have read and write and nobody else has access
[23:45] <Vixus> How can I find out where a certain package's files are installed?
[23:46] <qr_> Vixus: dpkg -L packagename
[23:46] <gaelfx> hey, I realize this is hardly the correct place for this question, but can anyone tell me why firefox stops scrolling when the mouse is over flash media? (this doesn't happen in windows or mac version of ff)
[23:46] <johnny__> Smegzor1, for group make it your username only
[23:46] <Smegzor1> johnny__ its already like that
[23:46] <Smegzor1> but it still errors at login (I haven't changed anything yet)
[23:46] <johnny__> ok save and close it.
[23:46] <qr_> gaelfx: the same reason it scrolls an iframe instead of the main frame when your mouse is in the iframe.
[23:46] <Smegzor1> nothing to save
[23:47] <PineHead> how to i restart mysql/
[23:47] <PineHead> ?
[23:47] <Smegzor1> the file is correctly set without me touching it yet I get that login message
[23:47] <qr_> PineHead: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[23:47] <MikeJc> ﻿PineHead: /etc/init.d/mysql stop, then start
[23:47] <johnny__> Smegzor1, copy and paste exactly what it says
[23:47] <gaelfx> qr_: is there a way to change that?
[23:48] <Smegzor1> johnny__ the content of the file or the error?
[23:48] <qr_> gaelfx: no idea
[23:48] <johnny__> Smegzor1, content
[23:48] <Smegzor1> [Desktop]
[23:48] <Smegzor1> Session=gnome
[23:48] <Smegzor1> the first 2 lines in the file are blank
[23:48] <johnny__> mine has white space for the first two lines.
[23:48] <Smegzor1> same
[23:48] <johnny__> ok completely logout and back in.
[23:49] <Smegzor1> ok.  i've done that 6 times in the last 20 minutes or so though
[23:49] <PineHead> Whats the best ftp service to use on ubuntu?
[23:49] <MonsieurY> you can test your webcam here, Iam under ubuntu 8.04 with ldlc webcam and it's workhttp://www.mebeam.com/testWebcam
[23:49] <JonnyD> --string no such file or directory < what does this mean and how do i fix it? :)
[23:49] <gaelfx> ok, having a problem with utorrent, which actually seems to be having problems with ntfs-3g, here's syslog output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/36012/
[23:50] <gaelfx> can someone help me figure out the problem?
[23:50] <MonsieurY> http://www.mebeam.com/testWebcam
[23:50] <Smegzor> johnny__: same error
[23:51] <Smegzor> i'll chmod the file
[23:51] <hydroponic> How do I ignore a package when doing an apt-get upgrade? There's one package I don't want upgraded
[23:52] <Gohalien> Anyone can help me with installing a Bison webcam (acer aspire 5720z integrated webcam) here is my pastebin http://pastebin.com/d5d172cd
[23:52] <johnny__> Smegzor, Im sure it requires specifically 644 permissions then
[23:52] <PineHead> dumb question, what does sudo mean.
[23:52] <Smegzor> i'll log out and back again now that i've chmodded it to 644
[23:52] <Smegzor> brb
[23:52] <gaelfx> hey, has anyone else had problems with ntfs-3g?
[23:52] <johnny__> !sudo | PineHead
[23:52] <grobda24> gaelfx, looks like you need to scan and fix your NTFS drive.
[23:52] <Billll> anybody have a torrent downlaod for alternate version of xubuntu?
[23:53] <Smegzor> johnny__: no difference :(
[23:53] <gaelfx> grobda24: well, I don't have any problems with it on other systems, why should it have a problem on this one?
[23:53] <Smegzor> i'll switch to another user and see if its doing that for everyone..
[23:53] <johnny__> Smegzor, try to create a new user, see if the new user has the same problem.
[23:54] <grobda24> gaelfx, I don't know, that's just the conclusion I came to. I don't know your system :)
[23:54] <gaelfx> grobda24: thanks
[23:54] <grobda24> gaelfx, np
[23:56] <Bigb252> It seems when I try to install Ubuntu Desktop edition, it always hangs at the last installation part
[23:56] <goat> ok neofax im in the live session now
[23:56] <bastid_raZor> my box crashed last night for what reason unknown. Xorg log doesn't have errors but .xsessions-error is full. http://pastebin.com/f458406bd
[23:57] <JonnyD> Guys, sometimes when i install something it will give a menu with some configuration options.. these will be checkboxes or whatever, how do i select one? when i push enter it just skips it
[23:57] <mOrO^> that mebeam site is WONDERFUL
[23:58] <danand> JonnyD - space??
[23:58] <pyrak> in sound prefs, i get an error when i hit test on sound capture
[23:59] <JonnyD> hmm ill try that danand :)
[23:59] <pyrak> "Could not open audio device for recording.  Device isbeing used by another application.