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[00:00] <JontheEchidna> erm
[00:00] <JontheEchidna> 1337  bugs fixed elsewhere
[00:00] <JontheEchidna> ^front page of LP
[00:22] <yuriy> apachelogger: you two were listed as contacts for amarok, so I figured you were participating in some way
[00:23]  * apachelogger doesn't know anything about it ;-)
[00:25] <Nightrose> yuriy: right now i am at akademy
[00:25] <Nightrose> so absolutely no bugwork
[00:25] <yuriy> oh akademy is on already?
[00:25] <yuriy> awesome, enjoy!
[00:25] <Nightrose> and we are listed there as upstream contacts in case someone needs help with triaging a bug ;-)
[00:26] <Nightrose> yea
[00:26] <Nightrose> it is awesome
[00:26] <Nightrose> the first day was grea
[00:26] <Nightrose> t
[00:26] <Nightrose> my talk went well
[00:26] <Nightrose> the other talks were interesting
[00:26] <Nightrose> lots of awesome people :)
[00:26] <apachelogger> just no apachelogger bot :P
[00:27] <Nightrose> ;-) right
[00:27]  * apachelogger is thinking about getting a t-rex
[03:40] <jtechidna> argh!
[03:40] <jtechidna> navigating to anywhere after you log in to the wiki logs you out!
[03:44] <jtechidna> anyway, nighty night
[03:48] <yuriy> who's tried digikam-kde4? I think I have an issue
[04:04] <yuriy> Release note: Digikam has been updated to a new version.  Be prepared to wait an hour for it to import your albums, then another hour if you want to use the new features.
[04:05] <vorian> yuriy: digikam or digikam-kde4?
[04:06] <yuriy> digikam-kde4
[12:18] <apachelogger> vorian: if we want to take over #amarok we will have to do it while they are at akademy
[12:42] <digistyl3> is it easier to manage qt4 in python than it is in c++ ?
[12:57] <jtechidna> what do you mean by manage?
[13:37] <gnomefreak> manage might == work with (fix, change, ect)
[13:38] <jtechidna> Hmm, can't say. I don't know C++. Heh
[18:23] <dschulz> does anyone knows when Qt 4.4.1 packages will be available in hardy backports?
[18:23] <apachelogger> not before KDE 4.4.1
[18:24] <apachelogger> it's causing one awful load of quirks
[18:24] <apachelogger> if .1 is going to be backported at all
[18:24] <dschulz> oh no
[18:24] <yuriy> KDE 4.1.1 I hope.  Though I can't wait for 4.4.1 :P
[18:25] <dschulz> i'm having issues with qt 4.4.0 and playing with postgresql 8.3.x
[18:25] <dschulz> thanks guys
[18:26]  * apachelogger is using 4.1.61
[18:42] <coreymon77> guys, there is a new stable version of konversation out
[18:42] <coreymon77> shouldnt it get into the repos
[18:42] <coreymon77> ?
[18:54] <yuriy> !info konversation intrepid
[18:54] <coreymon77> 1.1 stable is out
[18:55] <coreymon77> http://konversation.kde.org/
[19:12] <apachelogger> coreymon77: feel free to update the package
[19:12] <coreymon77> ummm
[19:13] <coreymon77> i dont really know how
[19:13] <coreymon77> i was just letting you guys know so that someone who does know could do it
[19:14] <apachelogger> coreymon77: well, if you learn how to update a package we have more people who can possibly do that in the future, right? ;-)
[19:15] <coreymon77> i dont think this computer can take much of that stuff
[19:15] <coreymon77> it has trouble with sound output, nevermind creating packages
[19:40] <apachelogger> coreymon77: building
[19:44] <vorian> afternoon
[19:46] <coreymon77> apachelogger: thanks
[19:54] <smarter> hey world
[21:39] <Riddell> doods
[21:40]  * apachelogger hugs Riddell
[21:41] <JontheEchidna> hai guize
[21:41]  * apachelogger also hugs JontheEchidna
[21:44] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: you should get bug 220235 fixed for konversation 2
[21:45] <JontheEchidna> as in notify upstream?
[21:45] <apachelogger> aye
[21:45]  * apachelogger notes that JontheEchidna should do some library packaging
[21:45] <apachelogger> Riddell: how is akademy?
[21:46] <JontheEchidna> that would be nicer than having to add more files to k-d-s
[21:47] <apachelogger> I hate bloody workarounds
[21:47] <apachelogger> bug 256466
[21:47]  * apachelogger gets his sonic screwdriver and throws it at that bug
[21:52] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: did you fix bug 255388 in the 4.1.0 backport?
[21:52] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: nope
[21:52] <apachelogger> cool
[21:53] <JontheEchidna> cool?
[21:53] <apachelogger> not?
[21:53]  * JontheEchidna remembers you saying something about Hardy not having the necessary lib or something
[21:53] <apachelogger> s/cool/lame/g
[21:53] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: should
[21:53] <apachelogger> we had zip support at hardy release
[21:53]  * apachelogger actually add it :P
[21:54] <JontheEchidna> heh
[22:05] <coreymon77> apachelogger: did you get that konv package built?
[22:07] <apachelogger> not yet
[22:07] <coreymon77> okay, thanks for doing it though
[22:07]  * apachelogger is unable to work with autohell
[22:07] <coreymon77> oh, is jon doing it now?
[22:08] <apachelogger> hm
[22:08] <apachelogger> why do we ave minions
[22:08] <apachelogger> right, to make them do our jobs
[22:08] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: konversation 1.1 was released ;-)
[22:08] <JontheEchidna> ooh
[22:08] <JontheEchidna> forgot about that
[22:08] <JontheEchidna> had some nice features I wanted too
[22:09] <coreymon77> ya
[22:09] <coreymon77> its not in the repos
[22:09]  * JontheEchidna gets on it
[22:10] <coreymon77> id do it myself is A) i knew how and B) my computer could handle any of the building and posting stuff (it has trouble doing sound output)
[22:11] <apachelogger> usually one doesn't do compiling via the SPU :P
[22:12] <coreymon77> yup
[22:12] <coreymon77> youre computer having trouble with souund output is a pretty good sign that it is no good for compiling
[22:13] <apachelogger> I don't undestand why... but if you say so
[22:14] <coreymon77> its a crap computer
[22:15] <coreymon77> thats what im trying to say
[22:15] <coreymon77> its a crap computer from when xp first came out
[22:17] <apachelogger> hehe, mine is about the same age
[22:18] <JontheEchidna> mine came with 128 MB RAM before I added 512 MB
[22:18] <JontheEchidna> \o/
[22:18] <coreymon77> i doubled my ram too
[22:19] <coreymon77> that, plus the hd i got it is the only reason this thing is still alive
[22:19] <claydoh> I don't feel so bad then with my p4 and 1gb ram on this 'old' laptop
[22:30] <JontheEchidna> um
[22:31] <JontheEchidna> nevermind
[22:35] <JontheEchidna> whee, patch fail
[22:39] <JontheEchidna> um, so what do you do when patching fails?
[22:40] <JontheEchidna> It appears that most of the changes that the patch made are still needed
[22:40] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: recreate the patch ;-)
[22:41] <JontheEchidna> huh, this is the only difference between 1.0.1 and 1.1
[22:41] <JontheEchidna> diff konversation-1.0.1/admin/libtool.m4.in konversation-1.1/admin/libtool.m4.in
[22:41] <JontheEchidna> 1427c1427
[22:41] <JontheEchidna> <     if test -d /lib64; then
[22:41] <JontheEchidna> ---
[22:41] <JontheEchidna> >     if test -d /lib64 -a ! -h /lib64; then
[22:42] <apachelogger> well
[22:42] <apachelogger> just hack the patch then
[22:46] <JontheEchidna> well it applies now...
[22:46] <JontheEchidna> but another fails!
[22:52] <apachelogger> apachelogger's first rule of packaging: patches are evil
[22:53]  * JontheEchidna agrees
[22:57] <JontheEchidna> meh, part of the patch was already applied
[22:57] <JontheEchidna> makes things easier
[22:59] <JontheEchidna> actually all of it was
[23:03] <coreymon77> so, is the updating not going well?>
[23:04] <JontheEchidna> eh, it's going ok I suppose
[23:04] <JontheEchidna> patches are just a pain
[23:04] <JontheEchidna> in general
[23:09] <apachelogger> well
[23:09] <apachelogger> they are patches :P
[23:09] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[23:19] <JontheEchidna> so
[23:19] <JontheEchidna> how do I recreate a patch?
[23:20]  * JontheEchidna can't seem to hack this patch into submission
[23:21] <JontheEchidna> stupid debian branding
[23:25] <JontheEchidna> hmm, maybe this will do it
[23:25] <JontheEchidna> yay\
[23:43] <dschulz> hi all
[23:46] <dschulz> apachelogger you said qt 4.4.1 is not possible to backport in hardy right now
[23:47] <dschulz> why is that?  4.4.1 is not supposed to be a dropin replacement for 4.4.0 ?
[23:48] <dschulz> i'm wondering what kind of problems can be, as i understand is just a bugfix release
[23:52] <JontheEchidna> it does cause a regression with KDE
[23:55] <dschulz> aargh!